Re: [asterisk-users] ACD problem

2013-04-11 Thread Lenz Emilitri
I am not sure I understand the required routing pattern, but I'm sure
queues are your friends, as you can dynamically add and remove member and
you can have a first-level queue easily move fall-through to another queue
in case all members should be busy or none should be available. Plus by
using queues you decouple the what you want to do from the who is doing
it.


2013/4/10 Tommy Cooper tomcoope...@yahoo.com

   Hi,

 I am working on a small inbound call center solution that uses an ACD
 system. I might add an IVR system later on. I only have 2 extensions set up
 (extensions 1000 and 1001), I want the system to put new calls in a queue
 if both extensions are busy. I am currently subscribed with a SIP trunk
 provider and can successfully recieve calls. I want to design a system
 where customers can call my number, that call will then be directed to
 either extension 1000 or 1001. If both extensions are in use, I want that
 3rd call to be queued.
 I don't think that the config below will direct calls to extension 1001
 because the second line states that any incomming calls should be routed to
 extension 1000. How do I change this so that calls are directed to all of
 my exensions?

 extensions.conf
 [from-myprovider]
 exten = *DID number*,1,Answer
 exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)
 exten = *DID number*,3,Queue(support) ;not sure if this line belongs here
 exten = *DID number*,4,Hangup

 queues.conf

 [general]
 [support]

 musicclass=default
 strategy=rrmemory
 joinempty=no
 leavewhenempty=yes
 ringinuse=no
 Member = SIP/1000
 Member = SIP/1001

 agent = 1000,1000
 agent = 1001,1001

 When using the current config the caller will listen to the 'music on
 hold' until the agent answers but calls are only being forwarded to
 extension 1000 as stated above

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[asterisk-users] ACD problem

2013-04-10 Thread Tommy Cooper
  Hi, 

I am working on a small inbound call center solution that uses an ACD system. I 
might add an IVR system later on. I only have 2 extensions set up (extensions 
1000 and 1001), I want the system to put new calls in a queue if both 
extensions are busy. I am currently subscribed with a SIP trunk provider and 
can successfully recieve calls. I want to design a system where customers can 
call my number, that call will then be directed to either extension 1000 or 
1001. If both extensions are in use, I want that 3rd call to be queued.

I don't think that the config below will direct calls to extension 1001 because 
the second line states that any incomming calls should be routed to extension 
1000. How do I change this so that calls are directed to all of my exensions?


extensions.conf
[from-myprovider]
exten = *DID number*,1,Answer
exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)
exten = *DID number*,3,Queue(support) ;not sure if this line belongs here
exten = *DID number*,4,Hangup
 
queues.conf
 
[general]
[support]

musicclass=default
strategy=rrmemory
joinempty=no
leavewhenempty=yes
ringinuse=no
Member = SIP/1000
Member = SIP/1001

agent = 1000,1000
agent = 1001,1001
 
When using the current config the caller will listen to the 'music on hold' 
until the agent answers but calls are only being forwarded to extension 1000 as 
stated above
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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD problem

2013-04-10 Thread Paul Belanger

On 13-04-10 04:08 PM, Tommy Cooper wrote:

   Hi,

I am working on a small inbound call center solution that uses an ACD system. I 
might add an IVR system later on. I only have 2 extensions set up (extensions 
1000 and 1001), I want the system to put new calls in a queue if both 
extensions are busy. I am currently subscribed with a SIP trunk provider and 
can successfully recieve calls. I want to design a system where customers can 
call my number, that call will then be directed to either extension 1000 or 
1001. If both extensions are in use, I want that 3rd call to be queued.

I don't think that the config below will direct calls to extension 1001 because 
the second line states that any incomming calls should be routed to extension 
1000. How do I change this so that calls are directed to all of my exensions?

Forget dialling the phones directly, let the queue deal with it. Dump 
everything in to the queue, then just wait for somebody to answer.




extensions.conf
[from-myprovider]
exten = *DID number*,1,Answer
exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)
exten = *DID number*,3,Queue(support) ;not sure if this line belongs here
exten = *DID number*,4,Hangup

queues.conf

[general]
[support]

musicclass=default
strategy=rrmemory
joinempty=no
leavewhenempty=yes
ringinuse=no
Member = SIP/1000
Member = SIP/1001

agent = 1000,1000
agent = 1001,1001

When using the current config the caller will listen to the 'music on hold' 
until the agent answers but calls are only being forwarded to extension 1000 as 
stated above



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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD problem

2013-04-10 Thread Salman Zafar
This line :
exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)  is redundant and useless when you
are already using Queues. So just remove it and it should work.

What happen is, your dial-plan executes at 2nd priority DIAL a SIP
extension 1000 .. produce a call and at hang-up finishes no Queue/ACD
functionality is executed.




On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Tommy Cooper tomcoope...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Hi,

 I am working on a small inbound call center solution that uses an ACD
 system. I might add an IVR system later on. I only have 2 extensions set up
 (extensions 1000 and 1001), I want the system to put new calls in a queue
 if both extensions are busy. I am currently subscribed with a SIP trunk
 provider and can successfully recieve calls. I want to design a system
 where customers can call my number, that call will then be directed to
 either extension 1000 or 1001. If both extensions are in use, I want that
 3rd call to be queued.
 I don't think that the config below will direct calls to extension 1001
 because the second line states that any incomming calls should be routed to
 extension 1000. How do I change this so that calls are directed to all of
 my exensions?

 extensions.conf
 [from-myprovider]
 exten = *DID number*,1,Answer
 exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)
 exten = *DID number*,3,Queue(support) ;not sure if this line belongs here
 exten = *DID number*,4,Hangup

 queues.conf

 [general]
 [support]

 musicclass=default
 strategy=rrmemory
 joinempty=no
 leavewhenempty=yes
 ringinuse=no
 Member = SIP/1000
 Member = SIP/1001

 agent = 1000,1000
 agent = 1001,1001

 When using the current config the caller will listen to the 'music on
 hold' until the agent answers but calls are only being forwarded to
 extension 1000 as stated above

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD problem outbound calls

2013-04-10 Thread Tommy Cooper
Thank you for your prompt reply. I removed that redundant line and now 
everything seems to work fine. Except outgoing calls that is, whenever i try to 
call an outside number the phone rings, the user can even answer back but then 
it hangs up after about 5 sec.
 
extensions.conf:
[sip-phone]
;This is the context setup for outgoing calls;exten = 
_NXXX.,2,Set(CALLERID(name)=*my number*)
;exten = _NXXX.,3,Set(CALLERID(num)=*my number*)
;exten = _NXX,1,Dial(mailto:SIP/$%7bexten...@myprovider.com)
 
;exten = _3.,1,Answer
exten = _3.,1,Dial(SIP/myprovider/${EXTEN:1},60) ;This is the only line 
that seems to work but the phone hangs up shortly after answering, as described 
above
;exten = _3.,5,Hangup
 
;exten = _X.,1,Answer
;exten = _X.,2,Set(CALLERID(name)=*my number*)
;exten = _X.,3,Set(CALLERID(num)=*my number*)
;exten = _X.,4,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}@myprovider,30,Tt)
;exten = _X.,5,Hangup




From: Salman Zafar msalman...@gmail.com
To: Tommy Cooper tomcoope...@yahoo.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - 
Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD problem


This line :
exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)  is redundant and useless when you are 
already using Queues. So just remove it and it should work.

What happen is, your dial-plan executes at 2nd priority DIAL a SIP extension 
1000 .. produce a call and at hang-up finishes no Queue/ACD functionality is 
executed.






On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Tommy Cooper tomcoope...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Hi, 

I am working on a small inbound call center solution that uses an ACD system. 
I might add an IVR system later on. I only have 2 extensions set up 
(extensions 1000 and 1001), I want the system to put new calls in a queue if 
both extensions are busy. I am currently subscribed with a SIP trunk provider 
and can successfully recieve calls. I want to design a system where customers 
can call my number, that call will then be directed to either extension 1000 
or 1001. If both extensions are in use, I want that 3rd call to be queued.

I don't think that the config below will direct calls to extension 1001 
because the second line states that any incomming calls should be routed to 
extension 1000. How do I change this so that calls are directed to all of my 
exensions?


extensions.conf
[from-myprovider]
exten = *DID number*,1,Answer
exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)
exten = *DID number*,3,Queue(support) ;not sure if this line belongs here
exten = *DID number*,4,Hangup

queues.conf

[general]
[support]

musicclass=default
strategy=rrmemory
joinempty=no
leavewhenempty=yes
ringinuse=no
Member = SIP/1000
Member = SIP/1001

agent = 1000,1000
agent = 1001,1001

When using the current config the caller will listen to the 'music on hold' 
until the agent answers but calls are only being forwarded to extension 1000 
as stated above

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD problem

2013-04-10 Thread Bharat Lalcheta
Hi,

You can check extension status using chanisavail function. And extension is
not free, you can divert your call to queue.


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+ChanIsAvail

Regards,

Bharat Lalcheta

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Tommy Cooper tomcoope...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Hi,

 I am working on a small inbound call center solution that uses an ACD
 system. I might add an IVR system later on. I only have 2 extensions set up
 (extensions 1000 and 1001), I want the system to put new calls in a queue
 if both extensions are busy. I am currently subscribed with a SIP trunk
 provider and can successfully recieve calls. I want to design a system
 where customers can call my number, that call will then be directed to
 either extension 1000 or 1001. If both extensions are in use, I want that
 3rd call to be queued.
 I don't think that the config below will direct calls to extension 1001
 because the second line states that any incomming calls should be routed to
 extension 1000. How do I change this so that calls are directed to all of
 my exensions?

 extensions.conf
 [from-myprovider]
 exten = *DID number*,1,Answer
 exten = *DID number*,2,Dial(SIP/1000)
 exten = *DID number*,3,Queue(support) ;not sure if this line belongs here
 exten = *DID number*,4,Hangup

 queues.conf

 [general]
 [support]

 musicclass=default
 strategy=rrmemory
 joinempty=no
 leavewhenempty=yes
 ringinuse=no
 Member = SIP/1000
 Member = SIP/1001

 agent = 1000,1000
 agent = 1001,1001

 When using the current config the caller will listen to the 'music on
 hold' until the agent answers but calls are only being forwarded to
 extension 1000 as stated above

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[asterisk-users] ACD ASR

2009-10-14 Thread B.Masoud @ SH
Is there a ready add-on to asterisk that will display the ACD/ASR per
channel, source  destination?

 

Thanks.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD ASR

2009-10-14 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
2009/10/14 B.Masoud @ SH i...@saudihome.com

  Is there a ready add-on to asterisk that will display the ACD/ASR per
 channel, source  destination?



 Thanks.

 You can calculate by yourself with cdr's, its only statistics.
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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD ASR

2009-10-14 Thread Ivan Stepaniuk
B.Masoud @ SH wrote:
 Is there a ready add-on to asterisk that will display the ACD/ASR per
 channel, source  destination?
   
You asked this same question two weeks ago with the same subject. You 
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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD, call barge, recording

2009-08-26 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 00:30:57 Lee, John (Sydney) wrote:
   1) Can ACD (Automatic Call Distribution) service work with asterisk, and
  how to set up ACD in asterisk ?

 You can (and it is better to) write your own code in Asterisk.

I'm not sure why.  The Queue app works fine.

   2) How call barging can set up in asterisk ?

 There is a zap barge cmd - not sure if this is what you want.

ChanSpy is probably what he wants.

  3) How call recording can set up in asterisk?

 You can set up one-touch recording pretty easily.

Note that that's in features.conf.  If the OP wants to simply
record all calls, using MixMonitor is probably a better solution.

 Please check voip-info.org

Voip-info is often wrong, depends upon 3rd party modules not distributed
with Asterisk, and leads to more confusion, rather than clarifying issues.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD, call barge, recording

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Tilghman Lesher wrote:

 Voip-info is often wrong, depends upon 3rd party modules not distributed 
 with Asterisk, and leads to more confusion, rather than clarifying 
 issues.

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[asterisk-users] ACD, call barge, recording

2009-08-25 Thread mahboob zaman
Hellow,

i need the following requirements with asterisk :

 1) Can ACD (Automatic Call Distribution) service work with asterisk, and
how to set up ACD in asterisk ?
 2) How call barging can set up in asterisk ?
 3) How call recording can set up in asterisk?

Thanks
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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD, call barge, recording

2009-08-25 Thread Lee, John (Sydney)

  1) Can ACD (Automatic Call Distribution) service work with asterisk, and how 
 to set up ACD in asterisk ?
You can (and it is better to) write your own code in Asterisk.

  2) How call barging can set up in asterisk ?
There is a zap barge cmd - not sure if this is what you want.

 3) How call recording can set up in asterisk?
You can set up one-touch recording pretty easily.

Please check voip-info.org

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-22 Thread Kyriakos
What about tagging calls with skills and then putting them all in one queue?
Skill for agents would be declared in queues.conf just like penalties?
member = Agent/1001,Sales,10
where Sales=skilland 10 = weight of skill for agent.

Is that feasible?







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BJ Weschke
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:16 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

Kyriakos wrote:
 It would be nice to add an option of choosing to answer the call with the
 longest waiting time, or answer randomly, or round robin, etc...


   
  Agreed, but, understand that each queue defined in app_queue is separate.
The way the weights work is only by instructing a thread to go into another
queue's data space (while holding a mutex lock to make sure  multiple
threads aren't walking on the same space) and make sure there aren't calls
waiting where that queue has a higher weight than the one currently
processing before it decides whether or not it can serve up calls to an
available member. There is not one large, consolidated, pool of calls
waiting for consideration when you are dealing with multiple queues in the
current design of app_queue. As a result, true skills based routing with the
existing app_queue is, difficult, at best. 

  The queue application does a fairly good job for what most people need for
it to do, but when you start getting into these more complex call/queue
routing scenarios, you're defining a scope of requirements that the original
app_queue just wasn't designed for. Features like queue weight were/are band
aids to try to get you closer to the end run goal, but that band aid and
others like it has come with its own costs as well (mutex deadlocks,etc)
that many people here have complained about in the past.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-22 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi,

Örn Arnarson schrieb:
 I have often wondered the same thing.
 
 It seems to me to be random, or it works it out some way I am not
 familiar with. I have seen calls with wait time of 30 seconds get
 answered before calls with 30 minutes wait time from queues with equal
 weight.

I can confirm it with asterisk 1.4.11 on debian/lenny. We tested it like
that:

- two queues with the same weight are configures
- 2 agents are logged in both queues with strategy last recent
- 5 test callers are in the queue
- 1st caller gets an agent, the phone is ringing and we let time it out
- the callers after him in the queue get agent but the first caller
  never

But, as said, it happens randomly and is not easy to reproduce.

But we do not have any solutions for that beside to use only one queue.

Best Regards.

Jan

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-21 Thread Kyriakos


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On Nov 20, 2007 10:16 AM, Kyriakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I have a question regarding ACD for queues.   What happens when I have 2
 or more queues with same weight and  each queue has a call in?  How will
it
 decide which call will be routed to the next available agent? Will it take
 the call with the longest waiting time in queue?  If not how would I do
 this?

Beware of queue weights.  They have caused major problems in the past
for many people on this list.  As I understand it, enabling weights
requires * to grab a lock on a large number of data structures related
to queue state, which can cause performance slowdowns and crashes.  I
haven't seen reports of this recently, so it might be better in the
later 1.4 releases, but at one time it was a sure-fire recipe for
pain.

 Also can someone point me to resources for making a single queue with
 customer calls tagged with agent skills? What I mean is instead of having
 multiple queues Sales,Tech support, etc,  have only a single queue with
 calls being tagged according to the customer's choice from IVR, so if a
 customer would choose SALES , the call would go into the queue with other
 calls but it would only be answered from agents with the skill SALES.
 This is something offered in other PBX systems like Avaya but im pretty
sure
 it can be done on Asterisk, right?

It probably could be, but it would make reporting pretty difficult, as
the key fields in the queue log are the call id and the queue name.
While you could use the QueueLog() application to stick extra data
about the call (e.g the skill chosen from the IVR) into the queue log,
that would appear in one line only and require post-processing to glue
it together with the rest of the data for that call.  I'm pretty sure
it wouldn't mesh nicely with the reporting package I use
(QueueMetrics).

KM: I'm actually using the same package (Queuemetrics 1.4.2)!

What I do for this is maintain queue (skill) membership in a database,
then add the channels to the appropriate queues when the agents log on
via a web page.  Is there a particular reason you want to just have
one queue?

KM: Well no if the ACD would work properly. As I  mentioned there have been
calls that were waiting in queue for 20 minutes because ACD was distributing
calls from the rest of the queues  with less waiting time.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-21 Thread Kyriakos
Guys can someone answer how the ACD works when it needs to decide which call
to take next from queues with equal weights? Does it take the call with the
longest period of watiting or does it work randomly?



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
FitzGibbon
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:03 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

On Nov 20, 2007 10:16 AM, Kyriakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I have a question regarding ACD for queues.   What happens when I have 2
 or more queues with same weight and  each queue has a call in?  How will
it
 decide which call will be routed to the next available agent? Will it take
 the call with the longest waiting time in queue?  If not how would I do
 this?

Beware of queue weights.  They have caused major problems in the past
for many people on this list.  As I understand it, enabling weights
requires * to grab a lock on a large number of data structures related
to queue state, which can cause performance slowdowns and crashes.  I
haven't seen reports of this recently, so it might be better in the
later 1.4 releases, but at one time it was a sure-fire recipe for
pain.

 Also can someone point me to resources for making a single queue with
 customer calls tagged with agent skills? What I mean is instead of having
 multiple queues Sales,Tech support, etc,  have only a single queue with
 calls being tagged according to the customer's choice from IVR, so if a
 customer would choose SALES , the call would go into the queue with other
 calls but it would only be answered from agents with the skill SALES.
 This is something offered in other PBX systems like Avaya but im pretty
sure
 it can be done on Asterisk, right?

It probably could be, but it would make reporting pretty difficult, as
the key fields in the queue log are the call id and the queue name.
While you could use the QueueLog() application to stick extra data
about the call (e.g the skill chosen from the IVR) into the queue log,
that would appear in one line only and require post-processing to glue
it together with the rest of the data for that call.  I'm pretty sure
it wouldn't mesh nicely with the reporting package I use
(QueueMetrics).

KM: I'm actually using the same package (Queuemetrics 1.4.2)!

What I do for this is maintain queue (skill) membership in a database,
then add the channels to the appropriate queues when the agents log on
via a web page.  Is there a particular reason you want to just have
one queue?

KM: Well no if the ACD would work properly. As I  mentioned there have been
calls that were waiting in queue for 20 minutes because ACD was distributing
calls from the rest of the queues  with less waiting time.

KM.


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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-21 Thread Örn Arnarson
I have often wondered the same thing.

It seems to me to be random, or it works it out some way I am not familiar
with. I have seen calls with wait time of 30 seconds get answered before
calls with 30 minutes wait time from queues with equal weight.

It would be great if someone who actually knows could answer or explain.

Best regards,
Örn Arnarson

On Nov 21, 2007 2:15 PM, Kyriakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Guys can someone answer how the ACD works when it needs to decide which
 call
 to take next from queues with equal weights? Does it take the call with
 the
 longest period of watiting or does it work randomly?



 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kyriakos
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:08 AM
 To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James
 FitzGibbon
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:03 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

 On Nov 20, 2007 10:16 AM, Kyriakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a question regarding ACD for queues.   What happens when I have
 2
  or more queues with same weight and  each queue has a call in?  How will
 it
  decide which call will be routed to the next available agent? Will it
 take
  the call with the longest waiting time in queue?  If not how would I do
  this?

 Beware of queue weights.  They have caused major problems in the past
 for many people on this list.  As I understand it, enabling weights
 requires * to grab a lock on a large number of data structures related
 to queue state, which can cause performance slowdowns and crashes.  I
 haven't seen reports of this recently, so it might be better in the
 later 1.4 releases, but at one time it was a sure-fire recipe for
 pain.

  Also can someone point me to resources for making a single queue with
  customer calls tagged with agent skills? What I mean is instead of
 having
  multiple queues Sales,Tech support, etc,  have only a single queue with
  calls being tagged according to the customer's choice from IVR, so if a
  customer would choose SALES , the call would go into the queue with
 other
  calls but it would only be answered from agents with the skill SALES.
  This is something offered in other PBX systems like Avaya but im pretty
 sure
  it can be done on Asterisk, right?

 It probably could be, but it would make reporting pretty difficult, as
 the key fields in the queue log are the call id and the queue name.
 While you could use the QueueLog() application to stick extra data
 about the call (e.g the skill chosen from the IVR) into the queue log,
 that would appear in one line only and require post-processing to glue
 it together with the rest of the data for that call.  I'm pretty sure
 it wouldn't mesh nicely with the reporting package I use
 (QueueMetrics).

 KM: I'm actually using the same package (Queuemetrics 1.4.2)!

 What I do for this is maintain queue (skill) membership in a database,
 then add the channels to the appropriate queues when the agents log on
 via a web page.  Is there a particular reason you want to just have
 one queue?

 KM: Well no if the ACD would work properly. As I  mentioned there have
 been
 calls that were waiting in queue for 20 minutes because ACD was
 distributing
 calls from the rest of the queues  with less waiting time.

 KM.


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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-21 Thread BJ Weschke
Kyriakos wrote:
 Guys can someone answer how the ACD works when it needs to decide which call
 to take next from queues with equal weights? Does it take the call with the
 longest period of watiting or does it work randomly?

   
 Whichever thread from the queue that does its processing first is the one that 
will get the next available member. 


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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-21 Thread Kyriakos
It would be nice to add an option of choosing to answer the call with the
longest waiting time, or answer randomly, or round robin, etc...


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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

Kyriakos wrote:
 Guys can someone answer how the ACD works when it needs to decide which
call
 to take next from queues with equal weights? Does it take the call with
the
 longest period of watiting or does it work randomly?

   
 Whichever thread from the queue that does its processing first is the one
that will get the next available member. 


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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-21 Thread BJ Weschke
Kyriakos wrote:
 It would be nice to add an option of choosing to answer the call with the
 longest waiting time, or answer randomly, or round robin, etc...


   
  Agreed, but, understand that each queue defined in app_queue is separate. The 
way the weights work is only by instructing a thread to go into another queue's 
data space (while holding a mutex lock to make sure  multiple threads aren't 
walking on the same space) and make sure there aren't calls waiting where that 
queue has a higher weight than the one currently processing before it decides 
whether or not it can serve up calls to an available member. There is not one 
large, consolidated, pool of calls waiting for consideration when you are 
dealing with multiple queues in the current design of app_queue. As a result, 
true skills based routing with the existing app_queue is, difficult, at best. 

  The queue application does a fairly good job for what most people need for it 
to do, but when you start getting into these more complex call/queue routing 
scenarios, you're defining a scope of requirements that the original app_queue 
just wasn't designed for. Features like queue weight were/are band aids to try 
to get you closer to the end run goal, but that band aid and others like it has 
come with its own costs as well (mutex deadlocks,etc) that many people here 
have complained about in the past.

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[asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-20 Thread Kyriakos
Hi all,

  I have a question regarding ACD for queues.   What happens when I have 2
or more queues with same weight and  each queue has a call in?  How will it
decide which call will be routed to the next available agent? Will it take
the call with the longest waiting time in queue?  If not how would I do
this?

Also can someone point me to resources for making a single queue with
customer calls tagged with agent skills? What I mean is instead of having
multiple queues Sales,Tech support, etc,  have only a single queue with
calls being tagged according to the customer's choice from IVR, so if a
customer would choose SALES , the call would go into the queue with other
calls but it would only be answered from agents with the skill SALES.
This is something offered in other PBX systems like Avaya but im pretty sure
it can be done on Asterisk, right?

 

Thanks,

Kyriakos Mavromichalis

 

 

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD functionality , Skills for agents

2007-11-20 Thread James FitzGibbon
On Nov 20, 2007 10:16 AM, Kyriakos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I have a question regarding ACD for queues.   What happens when I have 2
 or more queues with same weight and  each queue has a call in?  How will it
 decide which call will be routed to the next available agent? Will it take
 the call with the longest waiting time in queue?  If not how would I do
 this?

Beware of queue weights.  They have caused major problems in the past
for many people on this list.  As I understand it, enabling weights
requires * to grab a lock on a large number of data structures related
to queue state, which can cause performance slowdowns and crashes.  I
haven't seen reports of this recently, so it might be better in the
later 1.4 releases, but at one time it was a sure-fire recipe for
pain.

 Also can someone point me to resources for making a single queue with
 customer calls tagged with agent skills? What I mean is instead of having
 multiple queues Sales,Tech support, etc,  have only a single queue with
 calls being tagged according to the customer's choice from IVR, so if a
 customer would choose SALES , the call would go into the queue with other
 calls but it would only be answered from agents with the skill SALES.
 This is something offered in other PBX systems like Avaya but im pretty sure
 it can be done on Asterisk, right?

It probably could be, but it would make reporting pretty difficult, as
the key fields in the queue log are the call id and the queue name.
While you could use the QueueLog() application to stick extra data
about the call (e.g the skill chosen from the IVR) into the queue log,
that would appear in one line only and require post-processing to glue
it together with the rest of the data for that call.  I'm pretty sure
it wouldn't mesh nicely with the reporting package I use
(QueueMetrics).

What I do for this is maintain queue (skill) membership in a database,
then add the channels to the appropriate queues when the agents log on
via a web page.  Is there a particular reason you want to just have
one queue?

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queue LOG RINGNOANSWER Content 0

2007-11-13 Thread asterisk
Looks like a reject, as it continues to hunt to the next agent.  I think
it is a busy.  Although I thought the queue shouldn't try an agent
that is in use.   

Thanks BJ

Doug

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queue LOG RINGNOANSWER Content 0

 Yes. That's supposed to to be the timeout value. In the case where it's

0 are you seeing a call reject or something else?

asterisk wrote:
 In my  queue log I see that on the RINGNOANSWER Event I get different
 content.   Some events soe the ring timeout (15000).  Other events
show
 0.  Other yet show 1000 Doens anyone know what 0 means?  Did it try to
 ring the phone, but it was busy?  

 Thanks
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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queue LOG RINGNOANSWER Content 0

2007-11-13 Thread James FitzGibbon
On 11/12/07, asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In my  queue log I see that on the RINGNOANSWER Event I get different
 content.   Some events soe the ring timeout (15000).  Other events show
 0.  Other yet show 1000 Doens anyone know what 0 means?  Did it try to
 ring the phone, but it was busy?


For my internal reporting, I consider 0 or 1000 to be the result of a phone
being on DND.  Since all the time values in the log are rounded to the
nearest 1000, I speculate that 0 is a rejection in  500ms and 1000 is a
rejection in the 500 to 1499 ms range.  I figure unless someone is hovering
over the ignore button on a softphone, they aren't going to be able to
click it so fast that Asterisk registers it as RINGNOANSWER|1000.

Likewise, RINGNOANSWER|2 is (for me, given timeout=20 in queues.conf)
a failure to pick up a presented call.

Everything from 2000 through 19000 I treat as a manual ignore triggered by
the agent.  So far, the reports I generate based on these rules seem to make
sense to the managers reading them.

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queue LOG RINGNOANSWER Content 0

2007-11-13 Thread asterisk
Cool thanks James...   

 

Doug

 

 



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FitzGibbon
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queue LOG RINGNOANSWER Content 0

 

On 11/12/07, asterisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In my  queue log I see that on the RINGNOANSWER Event I get
different
content.   Some events soe the ring timeout (15000).  Other
events show
0.  Other yet show 1000 Doens anyone know what 0 means?  Did it
try to
ring the phone, but it was busy?


For my internal reporting, I consider 0 or 1000 to be the result of a
phone being on DND.  Since all the time values in the log are rounded to
the nearest 1000, I speculate that 0 is a rejection in  500ms and 1000
is a rejection in the 500 to 1499 ms range.  I figure unless someone is
hovering over the ignore button on a softphone, they aren't going to
be able to click it so fast that Asterisk registers it as
RINGNOANSWER|1000. 

Likewise, RINGNOANSWER|2 is (for me, given timeout=20 in
queues.conf) a failure to pick up a presented call.

Everything from 2000 through 19000 I treat as a manual ignore triggered
by the agent.  So far, the reports I generate based on these rules seem
to make sense to the managers reading them. 


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[asterisk-users] ACD Queue LOG RINGNOANSWER Content 0

2007-11-12 Thread asterisk
In my  queue log I see that on the RINGNOANSWER Event I get different
content.   Some events soe the ring timeout (15000).  Other events show
0.  Other yet show 1000 Doens anyone know what 0 means?  Did it try to
ring the phone, but it was busy?  

Thanks
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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queue LOG RINGNOANSWER Content 0

2007-11-12 Thread BJ Weschke
 Yes. That's supposed to to be the timeout value. In the case where it's 
0 are you seeing a call reject or something else?

asterisk wrote:
 In my  queue log I see that on the RINGNOANSWER Event I get different
 content.   Some events soe the ring timeout (15000).  Other events show
 0.  Other yet show 1000 Doens anyone know what 0 means?  Did it try to
 ring the phone, but it was busy?  

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queues Agents logout

2006-07-27 Thread Kai Ober


I didn't want to send the Agent thru the whoule AgentCallbackLogin 
rutine just to _log off_.

This does not make really sense to me.
thank for your answer anyway.

Kai

Here is what I do...
 
Exten=777,1,AgentCallbackLogin()
 
  


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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queues Agents logout

2006-07-26 Thread Kai Ober

hmm looks nicer than mine:

exten = *2002,1,System(asterisk -rx \
agent logoff Agent/ ${AGENTBYCALLERID_${CALLERID}})
exten = *2002,2,Playback(agent-loggedoff)
exten = *2002,3,Hangup

thx for your suggestion, i think i will integrate your solution


regard
KAI


Anthony Rodgers schrieb:

Hi Kai,

This is what we do:

[agent-login]
exten = s,1,NoOp(${AgentUser})
exten = 
s,2,AddQueueMember(${AgentContext}|${AgentChannel}|${AgentPenalty})

exten = s,3,Wait(1)
exten = s,4,Playback(agent-loginok)
exten = s,5,Hangup
exten = s,103,RemoveQueueMember(${AgentContext}|${AgentChannel})
exten = s,104,Wait(1)
exten = s,105,Playback(agent-loggedoff)
exten = s,106,Hangup

A.

On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Kai Ober wrote:


Okay, I think i have missed something:

When i use AgentCallbackLogin*(||*007)  the agent is logged in, fine.

But  how do i log OUT.
okay there is a timout,
autologoff=time

but how can an agent explicit log off?



regards

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[asterisk-users] ACD Queues Agents logout

2006-07-26 Thread Jordan Novak



Here is what I 
do...

Exten=777,1,AgentCallbackLogin()

Yup, thats it! use 
your agent id and password, and then enter your dialable number. I say dialable 
number because you can basically dial any phone number. We have agents that call 
a toll free number and login to their home phones, pretty sweet! This has to be 
in the right context to allow this though.

Jordan Novak
Communications Technician

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Re: [asterisk-users] ACD Queues Agents logout

2006-07-25 Thread Anthony Rodgers

Hi Kai,

This is what we do:

[agent-login]
exten = s,1,NoOp(${AgentUser})
exten = 
s,2,AddQueueMember(${AgentContext}|${AgentChannel}|${AgentPenalty})

exten = s,3,Wait(1)
exten = s,4,Playback(agent-loginok)
exten = s,5,Hangup
exten = s,103,RemoveQueueMember(${AgentContext}|${AgentChannel})
exten = s,104,Wait(1)
exten = s,105,Playback(agent-loggedoff)
exten = s,106,Hangup

A.

On Jul 20, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Kai Ober wrote:


Okay, I think i have missed something:

When i use AgentCallbackLogin*(||*007)  the agent is logged in, fine.

But  how do i log OUT.
okay there is a timout,
autologoff=time

but how can an agent explicit log off?



regards

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[asterisk-users] ACD Queues Agents logout

2006-07-20 Thread Kai Ober

Okay, I think i have missed something:

When i use AgentCallbackLogin*(||*007)  the agent is logged in, fine.

But  how do i log OUT.
okay there is a timout,
autologoff=time

but how can an agent explicit log off?



regards

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[asterisk-users] ACD rejected calls with out going to Voicemail

2006-07-14 Thread Dean @ INKnBITs
I have an ACD asterisk system running, and if a call gets put through to an
agent and they hit the reject key (if they are busy), it puts the call to
their voicemail. I would like the call to stay in the queue and try another
agent. Is this possible?

Thanks for your help.
Dean.

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[Asterisk-Users] ACD Distributed Scenario....

2006-06-15 Thread Douglas Garstang
We need to make sure that all queue applications run on the correct system that 
the user agents that own the queue application are registered to. So when a 
server fails and the user agents register with their secondary server (which 
will always be configured to be the same server for those related agents) the 
queue application is running on that server and routed to correctly by it's 
peers. Enters DUNDi: 

Working scenario:

1)  Configured 3 contexts, referenced by DUNDi, to manage which server is 
the primary, secondary, and tertiary server for each given queue. So:

a.   UA1, 2, and 3 register with Astbox1 as their primary server

b.   Their registration tables refer to Astbox2 as their secondary 
registration server and Astbox3 as their tertiary registration server

c.   Agents are logging into the queue1 via UA1, 2, and 3 

d.   Queue1's dial plan logic is in the same context on all boxes

e.   Queue1's dial plan logic is referred to via 3 different DUNDi contexts 
weighted according to which server is the primary, secondary, and tertiary host 
server for the user agents (UA1,2, and 3)

f.So queue1, assigned the phone number of 5551212, is assigned to the 
Primary DUNDi context on Astbox1 with the weight of 0

g.   Then queue1 is assigned to the secondary DUNDi context on Astbox2 with 
the weight of 100 and to the tertiary DUNDi context on Astbox3 with the weight 
of 200

h.   So let's say we make a call from an User Agent on Astbox2 to 5551212

i. When determining which server to terminate a call to 5551212 on we 
do a local lookup first on Astbox2 to see if the primary server for that number 
happens to be the server performing the routing logic... if so, we directly 
route the call to that queue on the local server

j.In this case Astbox2 does not refer to queue1 in the primary DUNDi 
context, Astbox1 refers to queue1 in it's primary context, so we do a DUNDi 
lookup to find the next server we should route the call to

k.   Due to weighting, we receive the IP of Astbox1 as the first DUNDi 
destination and the IP of Astbox3 as a second DUNDi destination serving that 
queue and we route the call to the first destination IP

l. Everything is fine... but when the primary server fails (Astbox1) 
and the the secondary server happens to be the box that is routing the call 
(Astbox2) there is a logic gap we need help addressing

2)  Logic gap we need to address

a.   UA1, 2, and 3 normally register with Astbox1 as their primary server 
but it  has now failed

b.   So UA1, 2, and 3 now register with Astbox2 

c.   Due to queue1's routing logic, that the agents assigned to UA1, 2, and 
3 log into, residing in the same context on all boxes we are able to handle 
calls to that context on Astbox2 (please refer to our statement in 1.d through 
1.g to re-paraphrase the queue and agent relationship)

d.   So let's say we make a call from a user agent Astbox2 to 5551212

e.   When determining which server to terminate a call to 5551212 on we do 
a local lookup first on Astbox2 to see if the primary context shows that number 
as local (queue1)... if so, we directly route the call to that queue on the 
local server

f.In this case it is not because the context we are referring to 
(PRIMARY) does not reside on Astbox2 with 5551212 in it's context so we do a 
DUNDi lookup to find the next server we should route the call to

g.   Due to weighting and the fact that Astbox1 has failed, we receive the 
IP of Astbox3 as the only DUNDi destination serving that queue (HERE IS THE 
PROBLEM --- Astbox3 is tertiary... the box during this failed condition that 
has the highest weight is the box doing the lookups (Astbox2) along with  
Astbox2 is the box that the destination agents of the queue are now registered 
with)

h.   If we could actually query to find the weight of the DUNDi returned 
lookup we could add logic to the scripting to determine if it is the Primary 
server with a weight of 0.

i. If not we could add some logic to see if the server we are on 
happens to be the secondary

j.If so the call would then remain on that box

k.   If not we could then route to the returned IP address from the DUNDi 
lookup 

 
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[Asterisk-Users] ACD Light on Phone?

2006-05-18 Thread Matt

Hi,
Is there anyway I can make a softkey light on a sip phone (aastra
9133i) light up when the agent is logged into a queue?  Even if I have
to do it via some call in a dialplan.  I guess the question is more...
what command do I need to send to a sip phone to turn a light on a
softkey on/off?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-26 Thread hgaillac-sip
Hello,

Can you provide a patch from your special branch for
asterisk-1.2.3 ?
can you post a how-to ?

Even these features won't be include in th main
branche a patch should be available.

Regards
harry

--- BJ Weschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

  On 1/25/06, Douglas Garstang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've tried that. Setting acd-login-logout and
 acd-agent-available to 1 causes the appearance to
 automatically log in when the phones comes up, and
 stays up the entire time. I'll have another shot it
 in a bit tho maybe I missed something before.
 
 
  You need the code on that special branch in
 conjunction with the
 config setting in order for it to work.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-26 Thread BJ Weschke
On 1/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Can you provide a patch from your special branch for
 asterisk-1.2.3 ?
 can you post a how-to ?

 Even these features won't be include in th main
 branche a patch should be available.


 Harry -

 There is a patch available against /trunk, not 1.2.3. As I said in an
earlier email, it will take a little more work to produce a patch that
compiles correctly against 1.2.3 as the code has changed a good bit.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-26 Thread hgaillac-sip
Please to post a patch for asterisk-1.2.3 for
polycom_acd_functions .
Regards
harry
--- Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:

 Oo I thought that this was a Polycom
 limitation, rather than an Asterisk one. Your saying
 that the Polycom phones would receive SIP signalling
 that would allow them to dynamically update the
 appearance display to show if an appearance had a
 logged in agent or not?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:14 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
 Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip
 phones
 
 
 On 1/24/06, Douglas Garstang
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Why do you need a patch? We have ACD/Asterisk
 1.2.1 working well with Polycom IP phones. Haven't
 done much with 1.2.2 yet. Is there some sort of
 issue?
 
  About the only thing that doesn't work is the
 appearances don't display the login/logout status
 with the icon of an agent in an ACD Queue.
 Everything else seems fine.
 
 
  There's a branch against /trunk of Asterisk that
 does have this
 working. It's at

http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/bweschke/polycom_acd_functions/
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-25 Thread BJ Weschke
On 1/24/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, but there's an avail/unavail button on the Polycom phones? I dn't 
 think so. We've been able to log agents in and out with the phones for a long 
 time... I'm referring to the agent status being displayed on the graphic 
 display next to the call appearance.


 I know what you're referring to. We're speaking about the same thing.
Set acd-login-logout and acd-agent-available to 1 in your Polycom
config files and then once your agent is successfully logged in,
you'll see one of the soft buttons change to avail/unavail for the
agent that is logged in.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-25 Thread Douglas Garstang
I've tried that. Setting acd-login-logout and acd-agent-available to 1 causes 
the appearance to automatically log in when the phones comes up, and stays up 
the entire time. I'll have another shot it in a bit tho maybe I missed 
something before.

-Original Message-
From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:15 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones


On 1/24/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks, but there's an avail/unavail button on the Polycom phones? I dn't 
 think so. We've been able to log agents in and out with the phones for a long 
 time... I'm referring to the agent status being displayed on the graphic 
 display next to the call appearance.


 I know what you're referring to. We're speaking about the same thing.
Set acd-login-logout and acd-agent-available to 1 in your Polycom
config files and then once your agent is successfully logged in,
you'll see one of the soft buttons change to avail/unavail for the
agent that is logged in.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-25 Thread BJ Weschke
 On 1/25/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've tried that. Setting acd-login-logout and acd-agent-available to 1 causes 
 the appearance to automatically log in when the phones comes up, and stays up 
 the entire time. I'll have another shot it in a bit tho maybe I missed 
 something before.


 You need the code on that special branch in conjunction with the
config setting in order for it to work.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-25 Thread Douglas Garstang
Ah ok. Swt. :)

-Original Message- 
From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wed 1/25/2006 6:04 PM 
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones



 On 1/25/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've tried that. Setting acd-login-logout and acd-agent-available to 
1 causes the appearance to automatically log in when the phones comes up, and 
stays up the entire time. I'll have another shot it in a bit tho maybe I 
missed something before.


 You need the code on that special branch in conjunction with the
config setting in order for it to work.
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[Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-24 Thread hgaillac-sip
Hello

Can we find a patch for asterisk-1.2.2 in order to
test ACD with polycom phones ?

Regards
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-24 Thread Douglas Garstang
Why do you need a patch? We have ACD/Asterisk 1.2.1 working well with Polycom 
IP phones. Haven't done much with 1.2.2 yet. Is there some sort of issue?

About the only thing that doesn't work is the appearances don't display the 
login/logout status with the icon of an agent in an ACD Queue. Everything else 
seems fine.

Doug.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:46 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones


Hello

Can we find a patch for asterisk-1.2.2 in order to
test ACD with polycom phones ?

Regards
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-24 Thread BJ Weschke
On 1/24/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why do you need a patch? We have ACD/Asterisk 1.2.1 working well with Polycom 
 IP phones. Haven't done much with 1.2.2 yet. Is there some sort of issue?

 About the only thing that doesn't work is the appearances don't display the 
 login/logout status with the icon of an agent in an ACD Queue. Everything 
 else seems fine.


 There's a branch against /trunk of Asterisk that does have this
working. It's at
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/bweschke/polycom_acd_functions/

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-24 Thread Douglas Garstang
Oo I thought that this was a Polycom limitation, rather than an 
Asterisk one. Your saying that the Polycom phones would receive SIP signalling 
that would allow them to dynamically update the appearance display to show if 
an appearance had a logged in agent or not?

-Original Message-
From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:14 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones


On 1/24/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why do you need a patch? We have ACD/Asterisk 1.2.1 working well with Polycom 
 IP phones. Haven't done much with 1.2.2 yet. Is there some sort of issue?

 About the only thing that doesn't work is the appearances don't display the 
 login/logout status with the icon of an agent in an ACD Queue. Everything 
 else seems fine.


 There's a branch against /trunk of Asterisk that does have this
working. It's at
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/bweschke/polycom_acd_functions/

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-24 Thread BJ Weschke
On 1/24/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oo I thought that this was a Polycom limitation, rather than an 
 Asterisk one. Your saying that the Polycom phones would receive SIP 
 signalling that would allow them to dynamically update the appearance display 
 to show if an appearance had a logged in agent or not?


 Yes. They do, and the branch there should allow that functionality to
work. You can log agents in and out with the phones now and you can
also pause/unpause them from the queues using the avail/unavail
button.

 This branch/feature is in production presently at one of our call
center clients so I wouldn't necessarily call it alpha quality any
longer, but I think it still needs some fundamental touchup work
before it could be considered to get merged into the /trunk codebase.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-24 Thread Douglas Garstang
Thanks, but there's an avail/unavail button on the Polycom phones? I dn't 
think so. We've been able to log agents in and out with the phones for a long 
time... I'm referring to the agent status being displayed on the graphic 
display next to the call appearance.

-Original Message-
From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:45 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones


On 1/24/06, Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oo I thought that this was a Polycom limitation, rather than an 
 Asterisk one. Your saying that the Polycom phones would receive SIP 
 signalling that would allow them to dynamically update the appearance display 
 to show if an appearance had a logged in agent or not?


 Yes. They do, and the branch there should allow that functionality to
work. You can log agents in and out with the phones now and you can
also pause/unpause them from the queues using the avail/unavail
button.

 This branch/feature is in production presently at one of our call
center clients so I wouldn't necessarily call it alpha quality any
longer, but I think it still needs some fundamental touchup work
before it could be considered to get merged into the /trunk codebase.

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[Asterisk-Users] ACD announce-holdtime

2006-01-17 Thread Douglas Garstang
Has anyone gotten announce-holdtime in queues.conf to work? Doesn't seem to 
matter what combination of options I use, I can't get this particular setting 
to do what the docs say.

Thanks.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD announce-holdtime

2006-01-17 Thread Mimmus
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Douglas Garstang
 
 Has anyone gotten announce-holdtime in queues.conf to work? 
 Doesn't seem to matter what combination of options I use, I 
 can't get this particular setting to do what the docs say.

I have:

[123]
wrapuptime=30
timeout=30
strategy=rrmemory
retry=20
queue-youarenext=queue-youarenext
queue-thereare=queue-thereare
queue-thankyou=queue-thankyou
queue-callswaiting=queue-callswaiting
music=default
monitor-join=yes
monitor-format=wav49
maxlen=0
leavewhenempty=no
joinempty=yes
context=
announce-holdtime=yes
announce-frequency=90

and it works (in italian too!)


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2006-01-03 Thread BJ Weschke
On 12/19/05, Kevin P. Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matthew wrote:

  For the uninitiated among us (myself included) what is ACD login/logout
  support?

 The Polycom phones can send XML NOTIFY messages to signal to the server
 the agent is logged in/out/paused. I know of no documentation on the
 messages (although they don't look that hard to parse), but nobody has
 come up with any sort of architecture that would allow chan_sip to do
 something useful with the messages.


 For all those interested, there's now a working implementation of
Polycom Agent login/logout integration with the Asterisk agent
infrastructure on mantis. We'll be adding avail/unavail in the next
few days.

 Testing assistance is greatly appreciated!

 http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=6119

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-20 Thread hgaillac-sip
Hello,

Polycom phones send SUBSCRIBE message for login .

Harry
--- BJ Weschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 On 12/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
  Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD
 support?
 
 
  Like the Park button functionality that was
 recently figured out
 here with Polycom phones, I'd bet ACD login/logout
 functionality is
 probably also able to be done with Asterisk. It's
 just a matter of
 understanding what the phone is sending and what
 it's expecting back
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-20 Thread hgaillac-sip
Hello Douglas,

You can enable ACD in sip.cfg and phone.cfg of the
polycom phones.
Polycom send SUBSCRIBE to server .

Harry
--- Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:

 You can configure Asterisk to log an agent in/out of
 an ACD Queue with AgentCallBacklogin, AddAgent etc,
 just like with any other phone. The Polycom
 themselves don't seem to display any sort of visual
 indicater that an appearance is logged in/out
 however, which is dissapointing. I'm sure you could
 write an AGI script to fire upon dialling of a
 number that could play a sound file indicating as
 such.
  
 
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   From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Mon 12/19/2005 7:43 PM 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing
 List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
   Cc: 
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip
 phones
   
   
 
   On 12/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
   
Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD
 support?
   
   
Like the Park button functionality that was
 recently figured out
   here with Polycom phones, I'd bet ACD login/logout
 functionality is
   probably also able to be done with Asterisk. It's
 just a matter of
   understanding what the phone is sending and what
 it's expecting back
   for correct interoperability.
   
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-20 Thread BJ Weschke
On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Douglas,

 You can enable ACD in sip.cfg and phone.cfg of the
 polycom phones.
 Polycom send SUBSCRIBE to server .

 Harry
 --- Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
 :

  You can configure Asterisk to log an agent in/out of
  an ACD Queue with AgentCallBacklogin, AddAgent etc,
  just like with any other phone. The Polycom
  themselves don't seem to display any sort of visual
  indicater that an appearance is logged in/out
  however, which is dissapointing. I'm sure you could
  write an AGI script to fire upon dialling of a
  number that could play a sound file indicating as
  such.
 
 
-Original Message-

 So, in theory, if the agent channel had a hint extension and
provided device state updates based on whether the agent was logged in
or out, this would probably work then as the buddy watch feature does
now with the Polycoms.

 This is probably worth some further investigation. :)


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-20 Thread hgaillac-sip

  So, in theory, if the agent channel had a hint
 extension and
 provided device state updates based on whether the
 agent was logged in
 or out, this would probably work then as the buddy
 watch feature does
 now with the Polycoms.
 
  This is probably worth some further investigation.

What about app_queue.so if hint is added in
extension.conf?
I sent a post to Polycom .

Harry






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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-20 Thread Douglas Garstang
Hints and queues are different things.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:03 AM
To: BJ Weschke
Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones



  So, in theory, if the agent channel had a hint
 extension and
 provided device state updates based on whether the
 agent was logged in
 or out, this would probably work then as the buddy
 watch feature does
 now with the Polycoms.
 
  This is probably worth some further investigation.

What about app_queue.so if hint is added in
extension.conf?
I sent a post to Polycom .

Harry






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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-20 Thread Douglas Garstang
The hint extension, in conjunction with Polycom's buddy feature, allows you to 
have a busy lamp field against appearances. As far as I know, it isn't 
connected with Asterisk ACD queues in any way. It would be nice if there was 
some way to get a graphical icon showing when an agent was logged in though.

-Original Message-
From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones


On 12/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Douglas,

 You can enable ACD in sip.cfg and phone.cfg of the
 polycom phones.
 Polycom send SUBSCRIBE to server .

 Harry
 --- Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
 :

  You can configure Asterisk to log an agent in/out of
  an ACD Queue with AgentCallBacklogin, AddAgent etc,
  just like with any other phone. The Polycom
  themselves don't seem to display any sort of visual
  indicater that an appearance is logged in/out
  however, which is dissapointing. I'm sure you could
  write an AGI script to fire upon dialling of a
  number that could play a sound file indicating as
  such.
 
 
-Original Message-

 So, in theory, if the agent channel had a hint extension and
provided device state updates based on whether the agent was logged in
or out, this would probably work then as the buddy watch feature does
now with the Polycoms.

 This is probably worth some further investigation. :)


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-20 Thread Douglas Garstang
Harry,

This will log an appearance in permanently. ie while the phone is active. There 
is no way to log an appearance in or out that has the acd feature enabled 
against it (that I know of).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:10 AM
To: Douglas Garstang
Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones


Hello Douglas,

You can enable ACD in sip.cfg and phone.cfg of the
polycom phones.
Polycom send SUBSCRIBE to server .

Harry
--- Douglas Garstang [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:

 You can configure Asterisk to log an agent in/out of
 an ACD Queue with AgentCallBacklogin, AddAgent etc,
 just like with any other phone. The Polycom
 themselves don't seem to display any sort of visual
 indicater that an appearance is logged in/out
 however, which is dissapointing. I'm sure you could
 write an AGI script to fire upon dialling of a
 number that could play a sound file indicating as
 such.
  
 
   -Original Message- 
   From: BJ Weschke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Mon 12/19/2005 7:43 PM 
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing
 List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
   Cc: 
   Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip
 phones
   
   
 
   On 12/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
   
Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD
 support?
   
   
Like the Park button functionality that was
 recently figured out
   here with Polycom phones, I'd bet ACD login/logout
 functionality is
   probably also able to be done with Asterisk. It's
 just a matter of
   understanding what the phone is sending and what
 it's expecting back
   for correct interoperability.
   
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[Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones (resent)

2005-12-19 Thread hgaillac-sip
Hello,

Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD support?

Regards
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread Matthew

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD support?


For the uninitiated among us (myself included) what is ACD login/logout 
support?


Thanks,

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

Matthew wrote:

For the uninitiated among us (myself included) what is ACD login/logout 
support?


The Polycom phones can send XML NOTIFY messages to signal to the server 
the agent is logged in/out/paused. I know of no documentation on the 
messages (although they don't look that hard to parse), but nobody has 
come up with any sort of architecture that would allow chan_sip to do 
something useful with the messages.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread hgaillac-sip
When ACD is used the queues and agents are configured
so agents have to send agent id and password to become
available in a queue .

Harry  
--- Matthew matthew@zeut.net a écrit :

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
  Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD
 support?
 
 For the uninitiated among us (myself included) what
 is ACD login/logout 
 support?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread Adam Goryachev
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 07:21 -0600, Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
 Matthew wrote:
 
  For the uninitiated among us (myself included) what is ACD login/logout 
  support?
 
 The Polycom phones can send XML NOTIFY messages to signal to the server 
 the agent is logged in/out/paused. I know of no documentation on the 
 messages (although they don't look that hard to parse), but nobody has 
 come up with any sort of architecture that would allow chan_sip to do 
 something useful with the messages.

Could chan_sip simply start executing the DP at a particular
extension ?? or would that require the existence of a channel, which
there isn't really since it is just XML not RTP???

I've often wondered about this, but since I've never seen any docs, nor
anyone else talk about it, I just assumed it wasn't implemented and
moved along... Though it certainly does seem like it would be quite
handy, if anyone needs some debug info, or someone to test it on etc,
I'd be able to do that much

Regards,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread hgaillac-sip
So we have to add a context like this to login/logout
agents.
I add 4 agent in a queue with roundrobin strategy .
What's going on if the first available agent don't
answer the call ?
 
Asterisk-1.2

[agents]
;Agent Login
exten= 501,1,AgentCallbackLogin(||[EMAIL PROTECTED])

;Agent Logout
exten= 502,1,AgentCallbackLogin(||l)

Regards
Harry

--- Kevin P. Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:

 Matthew wrote:
 
  For the uninitiated among us (myself included)
 what is ACD login/logout 
  support?
 
 The Polycom phones can send XML NOTIFY messages to
 signal to the server 
 the agent is logged in/out/paused. I know of no
 documentation on the 
 messages (although they don't look that hard to
 parse), but nobody has 
 come up with any sort of architecture that would
 allow chan_sip to do 
 something useful with the messages.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

Adam Goryachev wrote:


Could chan_sip simply start executing the DP at a particular
extension ?? or would that require the existence of a channel, which
there isn't really since it is just XML not RTP???


chan_sip _could_ do anything at all. However, since these are not INVITE 
requests, starting something in the dialplan seems a bit out of place. 
However, it's probably the most likely way that this could be 
implemented. However, there does not appear to be any standard (RFC or 
otherwise) behind these messages (although they could be SIP-B, I 
haven't checked), so adding this functionality will be both a bit ugly 
and also very vendor-specific.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread hgaillac-sip
Which standard for ACD login/logout ?

--- Kevin P. Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
:

 Adam Goryachev wrote:
 
  Could chan_sip simply start executing the DP at a
 particular
  extension ?? or would that require the existence
 of a channel, which
  there isn't really since it is just XML not RTP???
 
 chan_sip _could_ do anything at all. However, since
 these are not INVITE 
 requests, starting something in the dialplan seems a
 bit out of place. 
 However, it's probably the most likely way that this
 could be 
 implemented. However, there does not appear to be
 any standard (RFC or 
 otherwise) behind these messages (although they
 could be SIP-B, I 
 haven't checked), so adding this functionality will
 be both a bit ugly 
 and also very vendor-specific.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread BJ Weschke
On 12/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
 Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD support?


 Like the Park button functionality that was recently figured out
here with Polycom phones, I'd bet ACD login/logout functionality is
probably also able to be done with Asterisk. It's just a matter of
understanding what the phone is sending and what it's expecting back
for correct interoperability.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-19 Thread Douglas Garstang
You can configure Asterisk to log an agent in/out of an ACD Queue with 
AgentCallBacklogin, AddAgent etc, just like with any other phone. The Polycom 
themselves don't seem to display any sort of visual indicater that an 
appearance is logged in/out however, which is dissapointing. I'm sure you could 
write an AGI script to fire upon dialling of a number that could play a sound 
file indicating as such.
 

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Sent: Mon 12/19/2005 7:43 PM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 
Discussion 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones



On 12/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
 Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD support?


 Like the Park button functionality that was recently figured out
here with Polycom phones, I'd bet ACD login/logout functionality is
probably also able to be done with Asterisk. It's just a matter of
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[Asterisk-Users] ACD with polycom ip phones

2005-12-18 Thread hgaillac-sip
Hello,

Polycom ip soundpoint support ACD login/logout .
Can we configure asterisk with polycom ACD support?

Regards
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith

Tom Rymes wrote:
That's a good idea, but it does not help when the agent receives a  call 
from the queue. If an agent has call-waiting enabled (at least  on our 
7940 Ciscos...) the queue will send another incoming call  while the 
agent is still on the phone withthe last call sent to them  from the queue.


Is that not the case? Have I misconfigured something?


The Queue should not be sending a call to an agent that is marked as 
paused, that is what the pause was desigined for. Are you using more 
than 1 queue with the same agent ?


Tom



Julian


On Oct 16, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:


Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ?

If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call  
PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is  complete. 
The system should not then send any agent calls through,  but all 
other calls (direct / internal) should come through.


This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD.

HTH

Julian.

Tom Rymes wrote:

I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it  is  
really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be  a 
very  nice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to  an 
agent if  they are already on a call from the queue, but an  incoming 
call from  another internal extension, or even a DID  ought to be 
able to get  through.

Consider this a feature request?
Tom
On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:


One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
solution to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and   
strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an  ACD  
call,

another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD  call.

However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still  presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in  unnecessary  
delay

in answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call  
even  when

he is on another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an   
incoming

call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread Lenz


Hello,
are you using Asteriks agents or dialing straight to extensions? because  
if you are using agents for incoming calls and then you dial straight  
out of Asterisk, Asterisk will not know that the agent is busy. One  
possible workaround would be to make a call to the agent using a .call  
file, so that the agent is busy and the queue system recognizes it.

(It's just an idea, I have never tried this)
Thanks
l.


On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:04:02 +0200, J Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
solution to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD call,
another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.

However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary delay
in answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even when
he is on another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an incoming
call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread Troy Settle



Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:

Tom Rymes wrote:

That's a good idea, but it does not help when the agent receives a  
call from the queue. If an agent has call-waiting enabled (at least  
on our 7940 Ciscos...) the queue will send another incoming call  
while the agent is still on the phone withthe last call sent to them  
from the queue.


Is that not the case? Have I misconfigured something?



The Queue should not be sending a call to an agent that is marked as 
paused, that is what the pause was desigined for. Are you using more 
than 1 queue with the same agent ?


When accepting a call from the queue, what mechanism is there to pause 
the queue member?


Yes, it's possible to pause the agent when she places an outbound call 
or when recieving a direct-dialed or extention-dialed call, but how do 
you pause the agent when she accepts a call from the queue?


To the OP:

We too use Cisco 7940s for our office, and what I ended up doing, was 
turning off call waiting completely, then using the first line 
appearance for the user's actual extension, and the second line 
appearance for the call queue.  It's just as annoying as call waiting 
without getting slammed by queue calls.



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread J Thomas
Using Asterisk agents.

Not recognizing that an agent has made an outgoing call IS THE PROBLEM.
Only workaround I see is to take the agent out of queue on all outgoing
(and direct dialed incoming) calls and put him back in the queue at the
completion of the call. That seems too kloodgy.

Hence the proper behavior has to come through feature request only.

-- jt

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 04:30, Lenz wrote:
 Hello,
 are you using Asteriks agents or dialing straight to extensions? because  
 if you are using agents for incoming calls and then you dial straight  
 out of Asterisk, Asterisk will not know that the agent is busy. One  
 possible workaround would be to make a call to the agent using a .call  
 file, so that the agent is busy and the queue system recognizes it.
 (It's just an idea, I have never tried this)
 Thanks
 l.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith

Ah, ok, I see what you are getting at.

However, could you not run a macro on connection (to the agents device) 
that then pauses the queue member so that no more calls will come 
through until they are unpaused ?


Julian.

Troy Settle wrote:




Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:


Tom Rymes wrote:

That's a good idea, but it does not help when the agent receives a  
call from the queue. If an agent has call-waiting enabled (at least  
on our 7940 Ciscos...) the queue will send another incoming call  
while the agent is still on the phone withthe last call sent to 
them  from the queue.


Is that not the case? Have I misconfigured something?




The Queue should not be sending a call to an agent that is marked as 
paused, that is what the pause was desigined for. Are you using 
more than 1 queue with the same agent ?



When accepting a call from the queue, what mechanism is there to pause 
the queue member?


Yes, it's possible to pause the agent when she places an outbound call 
or when recieving a direct-dialed or extention-dialed call, but how do 
you pause the agent when she accepts a call from the queue?


To the OP:

We too use Cisco 7940s for our office, and what I ended up doing, was 
turning off call waiting completely, then using the first line 
appearance for the user's actual extension, and the second line 
appearance for the call queue.  It's just as annoying as call waiting 
without getting slammed by queue calls.





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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread Lenz


Yes, but if an agent is connected through the Agent module even on an
outboiund call, * will consider it unavailable and therefore will not
route calls to it, as if the agent was answering some inbound call.
Just my $0.02 :-)
l.



On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:01:27 +0200, J Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Using Asterisk agents.

Not recognizing that an agent has made an outgoing call IS THE PROBLEM.
Only workaround I see is to take the agent out of queue on all outgoing
(and direct dialed incoming) calls and put him back in the queue at the
completion of the call. That seems too kloodgy.

Hence the proper behavior has to come through feature request only.

-- jt

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 04:30, Lenz wrote:

Hello,
are you using Asteriks agents or dialing straight to extensions? because
if you are using agents for incoming calls and then you dial straight
out of Asterisk, Asterisk will not know that the agent is busy. One
possible workaround would be to make a call to the agent using a .call
file, so that the agent is busy and the queue system recognizes it.
(It's just an idea, I have never tried this)
Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread Corey Frang

So, I'm looking into using PauseQueueMember and unpause queuemember

How the heck to you get Unpause to run, no matter what, after the call 
is over?


The g argument to Dial only works when the called party hangs up.

Using the h extension appears to be doing nothing...

Is there any way we could add a feature to the pausequeuemember that 
basically says As long as this channel is open, this member is paused 
so  that way when they hang up they are unpaused automatically?


Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:


Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ?

If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call 
PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is complete. 
The system should not then send any agent calls through, but all other 
calls (direct / internal) should come through.


This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD.

HTH

Julian.

Tom Rymes wrote:

I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it is  
really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be a 
very  nice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to an 
agent if  they are already on a call from the queue, but an incoming 
call from  another internal extension, or even a DID ought to be able 
to get  through.


Consider this a feature request?

Tom

On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:


One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
solution to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and  
strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD  
call,

another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.

However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary  
delay

in answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even  
when

he is on another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an  
incoming

call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread J Thomas
Given the current state of queues, it does not seem possible to stop ACD
calls coming to a busy agent who has made an outgoing call.

Looks like feature request is the right way to go for this. I am going
to post this on dev mailing list too before making a feature request in
case we have missed something.

-- jt 

 On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 15:20, Corey Frang wrote:
 So, I'm looking into using PauseQueueMember and unpause queuemember
 
 How the heck to you get Unpause to run, no matter what, after the call 
 is over?
 
 The g argument to Dial only works when the called party hangs up.
 
 Using the h extension appears to be doing nothing...
 
 Is there any way we could add a feature to the pausequeuemember that 
 basically says As long as this channel is open, this member is paused 
 so  that way when they hang up they are unpaused automatically?
 
 Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:
 
  Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ?
 
  If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call 
  PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is complete. 
  The system should not then send any agent calls through, but all other 
  calls (direct / internal) should come through.
 
  This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD.
 
  HTH
 
  Julian.
 
  Tom Rymes wrote:
 
  I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it is  
  really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be a 
  very  nice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to an 
  agent if  they are already on a call from the queue, but an incoming 
  call from  another internal extension, or even a DID ought to be able 
  to get  through.
 
  Consider this a feature request?
 
  Tom
 
  On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:
 
  One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
  solution to that. Hence this post.
 
  In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and  
  strategy is
  rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD  
  call,
  another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.
 
  However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
  another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary  
  delay
  in answering that call.
 
  Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
  direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even  
  when
  he is on another call.
 
  Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an  
  incoming
  call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?
 
  Thanks,
  -- jt
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread BJ Weschke
You must specify topqm and upqm what interface you're attempting to pause and unpause. It will not figure that out based on what interface the channel that called the app in the dial plan might have used.
On 10/17/05, Corey Frang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, I'm looking into using PauseQueueMember and unpause queuememberHow the heck to you get Unpause to run, no matter what, after the call
is over?The g argument to Dial only works when the called party hangs up.Using the h extension appears to be doing nothing...Is there any way we could add a feature to the pausequeuemember that
basically says As long as this channel is open, this member is pausedsothat way when they hang up they are unpaused automatically?Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote: Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ?
 If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is complete. The system should not then send any agent calls through, but all other
 calls (direct / internal) should come through. This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD. HTH Julian. Tom Rymes wrote: I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it is
 really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be a verynice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to an agent ifthey are already on a call from the queue, but an incoming
 call fromanother internal extension, or even a DID ought to be able to getthrough. Consider this a feature request? Tom On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:
 One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any solution to that. Hence this post. In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and
 strategy is rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD call, another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.
 However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary delay in answering that call.
 Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even when he is on another call.
 Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an incoming call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call? Thanks,
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread BJ Weschke
It is possible. I do it here and at many other client installs. 

Please post your configuration so we can see why it's not working for you. 
On 17 Oct 2005 15:31:46 -0400, J Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given the current state of queues, it does not seem possible to stop ACDcalls coming to a busy agent who has made an outgoing call.
Looks like feature request is the right way to go for this. I am goingto post this on dev mailing list too before making a feature request incase we have missed something.-- jtOn Mon, 2005-10-17 at 15:20, Corey Frang wrote:
 So, I'm looking into using PauseQueueMember and unpause queuemember How the heck to you get Unpause to run, no matter what, after the call is over? The g argument to Dial only works when the called party hangs up.
 Using the h extension appears to be doing nothing... Is there any way we could add a feature to the pausequeuemember that basically says As long as this channel is open, this member is paused
 sothat way when they hang up they are unpaused automatically? Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:  Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ? 
  If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call  PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is complete.  The system should not then send any agent calls through, but all other
  calls (direct / internal) should come through.   This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD.   HTH   Julian.   Tom Rymes wrote:
   I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it is  really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be a  verynice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to an
  agent ifthey are already on a call from the queue, but an incoming  call fromanother internal extension, or even a DID ought to be able  to getthrough. 
  Consider this a feature request?   Tom   On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:   One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
  solution to that. Hence this post.   In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and  strategy is  rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD
  call,  another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.   However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
  another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary  delay  in answering that call.   Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
  direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even  when  he is on another call.   Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread Corey Frang




PauseQueueMember works fine, they just never get unpaused if they hang
up the call...

BJ Weschke wrote:
You must specify topqm and upqm what interface you're
attempting to pause and unpause. It will not figure that out based on
what interface the channel that called the app in the dial plan might
have used.
  
  On 10/17/05, Corey Frang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So,
I'm looking into using PauseQueueMember and unpause queuemember

How the heck to you get Unpause to run, no matter what, after the call

is over?

The "g" argument to Dial only works when the called party hangs
up.

Using the "h" extension appears to be doing nothing...

Is there any way we could add a feature to the "pausequeuemember" that

basically says "As long as this channel is open, this member is paused"
sothat way when they hang up they are unpaused automatically?

Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:

 Have you tried the "PauseQueueMember" application in the dialplan
?


 If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call
 PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is
complete.
 The system should not then send any agent calls through, but all
other

 calls (direct / internal) should come through.

 This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD.

 HTH

 Julian.

 Tom Rymes wrote:

 I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think
it is

 really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be
a
 verynice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to
an
 agent ifthey are already on a call from the queue, but an
incoming

 call fromanother internal extension, or even a DID ought to
be able
 to getthrough.

 Consider this a feature request?

 Tom

 On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:


 One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not
find any
 solution to that. Hence this post.

 In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents,
and

 strategy is
 rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has
received an ACD
 call,
 another call is not presented to him as long as he is on
the ACD call.

 However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is
still presented
 another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in
unnecessary
 delay
 in answering that call.


 Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can
also get a
 direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that
call even
 when
 he is on another call.


 Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because
of an
 incoming
 call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

 Thanks,

 -- jt

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-17 Thread BJ Weschke
JT, yes.

Here's how I've done it before for other clients:

On the dialout portion I've changed the dial plan to:

exten = _1NXXNXX,1,GotoIf($[${LEN(${$[AGENTBYCALLERID_${CALLERIDNUM}]})}  2]?2:3)exten = _1NXXNXX,2,PauseQueueMember(|Agent/${$[AGENTBYCALLERID_${CALLERIDNUM}]})exten = _1NXXNXX,3,Dial(SIP/SIP PEER/${EXTEN},,Tg)

exten = _1NXXNXX,4,ForkCDR()

What that's basically saying is that if the calling number is also logged in as an agent, go ahead and pause that queue member in all queues that they belong toand then make the call. I'm doing the GotoIf because there are other extensions in that same context that may not be logged in as agents and I don't want to make that pqm call (though there's no real harm in doing so, it'll just tell you there's no Interface as specified) with.


Then, in that same context, you put the following in the h extension
exten = h,1,ForkCDR()exten = h,2,GotoIf($[${LEN(${$[AGENTBYCALLERID_${CALLERIDNUM}]})}  2]?3:4)exten = h,3,UnPauseQueueMember(|Agent/${$[AGENTBYCALLERID_${CALLERIDNUM}]})exten = h,4,NoOp(Done!)

ForkCDR is important because if you don't do it you're going to find that the original CDR that used to contain the destination number in it, now contains only the 'h' extension in it. You could also use ResetCDR(w) here. Your choice really. ForkCDR will fork the one CDR into two preserving the original dial information, and then you may choose to do a NoCDR() or just deal with the additional CDR generated to the 'h' extension by ignoring it when you parse CDRs. 

Hope this helps. 

BJ

On 17 Oct 2005 18:28:02 -0400, J Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi BJ,Here are the relevant conf files:Agens.conf [general] persistentagents=yes
 [agents] agent = 8011,,Internet1 agent = 8012,,Sonia agent = 8013,,FilippoQueues.conf [internetq] music=default strategy=rrmemory
 retry = 20 timeout = 21 announce-frequency = 30 announce-holdtime = yes announce-round-seconds = 10 member = Agent/8011 member = Agent/8012 member = Agent/8013
Relevant lines from extensions.conf: exten = 5000,1,AgentCallbackLogin() [internet-working] exten = s,1,SetAccount(internet) exten = s,2,Queue(internetq|t|||360)
Now an agent, say Sonia, (her SIP extension is 8012 too) calls 5000 andlogins as agent 8012.When she is on an ACD call, she does not receive another ACD call. Verygood.However when she makes an outgoing call, she still receives ACD call.
Should I be doing something differently?-- jtOn Mon, 2005-10-17 at 15:55, BJ Weschke wrote:It is possible. I do it here and at many other client installs.
Please post your configuration so we can see why it's not working for you. On 17 Oct 2005 15:31:46 -0400, J Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Given the current state of queues, it does not seem possible to stop ACD calls coming to a busy agent who has made an outgoing call. Looks like feature request is the right way to go for this. I
 am going to post this on dev mailing list too before making a feature request in case we have missed something. -- jt On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 15:20, Corey Frang wrote:
  So, I'm looking into using PauseQueueMember and unpause queuemember   How the heck to you get Unpause to run, no matter what, after the call
  is over?   The g argument to Dial only works when the called party hangs up.   Using the h extension appears to be doing nothing...
   Is there any way we could add a feature to the pausequeuemember that  basically says As long as this channel is open, this member
 is paused  sothat way when they hang up they are unpaused automatically?   Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote: 
   Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ? If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial()
 call   PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is complete.   The system should not then send any agent calls through, but all other
   calls (direct / internal) should come through. This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD. HTH  
   Julian. Tom Rymes wrote: I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it is
   really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be a   verynice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to an
   agent ifthey are already on a call from the queue, but an incoming   call fromanother internal extension, or even a DID ought to be able
   to getthrough. Consider this a feature request? Tom  
   On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote: One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
   solution to that. Hence this post. In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and   strategy is
   rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD   call,   another call is not presented to him as long as he is on
 the ACD call. However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented   another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in
 unnecessary   delay   in answering that call. Taking out call waiting is 

Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-16 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith

Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ?

If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call 
PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is complete. The 
system should not then send any agent calls through, but all other calls 
(direct / internal) should come through.


This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD.

HTH

Julian.

Tom Rymes wrote:
I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it is  
really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be a very  
nice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to an agent if  
they are already on a call from the queue, but an incoming call from  
another internal extension, or even a DID ought to be able to get  through.


Consider this a feature request?

Tom

On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:


One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
solution to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and  strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD  call,
another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.

However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary  delay
in answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even  when
he is on another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an  incoming
call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-16 Thread Tom Rymes
That's a good idea, but it does not help when the agent receives a  
call from the queue. If an agent has call-waiting enabled (at least  
on our 7940 Ciscos...) the queue will send another incoming call  
while the agent is still on the phone withthe last call sent to them  
from the queue.


Is that not the case? Have I misconfigured something?

Tom

On Oct 16, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Julian Lyndon-Smith wrote:


Have you tried the PauseQueueMember application in the dialplan ?

If the agent makes an outbound call, before the dial() call  
PauseQueuemember - and UnPauseQueuemember when the call is  
complete. The system should not then send any agent calls through,  
but all other calls (direct / internal) should come through.


This is in 1.2b1 and CVS-HEAD.

HTH

Julian.

Tom Rymes wrote:

I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it  
is  really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be  
a very  nice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to  
an agent if  they are already on a call from the queue, but an  
incoming call from  another internal extension, or even a DID  
ought to be able to get  through.

Consider this a feature request?
Tom
On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:


One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
solution to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and   
strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an  
ACD  call,
another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD  
call.


However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still  
presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in  
unnecessary  delay

in answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call  
even  when

he is on another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an   
incoming

call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt

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[Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-15 Thread J Thomas
One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
solution to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD call,
another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.

However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary delay
in answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even when
he is on another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an incoming
call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-15 Thread Jason Walker
Have you tried the incominglimit parameter (or did she)?

I have found this to work pretty well when limiting the number of calls.
After monitoring the full log, I saw that incoming calls where
incrementing or decrementing the active call parameter for SIP agents. By
limiting the number of calls that the phone extension/user can accept at one
time limited the calls going to an agent.

I am still trying to figure out how to jump out of the dialplan when a call
comes into queue -- if anyone has any suggestions for that, it would be
greatly appreciated.

But in any event, for similar situations, limiting the number of calls for a
SIP agent seems to help in the calls coming in on top of another. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J Thomas
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 7:04 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any solution
to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD call,
another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.

However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary delay in
answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a direct
dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even when he is on
another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an incoming
call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-15 Thread J Thomas
Setting incominglimit = 1 does not really solve the problem as I had
already mentioned. That practically takes away the call waiting and will
block all incoming calls including direct dialed calls. She does not
want that. Moreover, incominglimit is deprecated too.

-- jt 

On Sat, 2005-10-15 at 22:05, Jason Walker wrote:
 Have you tried the incominglimit parameter (or did she)?
 
 I have found this to work pretty well when limiting the number of calls.
 After monitoring the full log, I saw that incoming calls where
 incrementing or decrementing the active call parameter for SIP agents. By
 limiting the number of calls that the phone extension/user can accept at one
 time limited the calls going to an agent.
 
 I am still trying to figure out how to jump out of the dialplan when a call
 comes into queue -- if anyone has any suggestions for that, it would be
 greatly appreciated.
 
 But in any event, for similar situations, limiting the number of calls for a
 SIP agent seems to help in the calls coming in on top of another. 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD calls to busy agents

2005-10-15 Thread Tom Rymes
I don't know how to make this happen, and I don't even think it is  
really possible given the current Queue app, but this would be a very  
nice feature to have. The queue shouldn't pass a call to an agent if  
they are already on a call from the queue, but an incoming call from  
another internal extension, or even a DID ought to be able to get  
through.


Consider this a feature request?

Tom

On Oct 15, 2005, at 10:04 PM, J Thomas wrote:


One of my friends is facing this problems and I could not find any
solution to that. Hence this post.

In her Asterisk PBX, she has programmed about 10 agents, and  
strategy is
rrmemory. Everything works fine. When an agent has received an ACD  
call,

another call is not presented to him as long as he is on the ACD call.

However when an agent has made an outgoing call, he is still presented
another ACD call when his turn comes. This results in unnecessary  
delay

in answering that call.

Taking out call waiting is not an option, as an agent can also get a
direct dialed call, and he should be able to pick up that call even  
when

he is on another call.

Is there a way so that a busy agent (whether busy because of an  
incoming

call, or outgoing call) is not presented another ACD call?

Thanks,
-- jt

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

2005-10-13 Thread Lorenzo Emilitri


Hello Pedro,
you should do this using agent priority groups; this way first all low  
priority agents are filled, then another group is used up.

Thanks
l.


On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:30:43 +0200, Pedro Nunes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



Hi there,


Does anyone know how to setup an overflow queue? When a call rings on
the queue A, if all agents were busy, the call goes to the queue B.

If all agents in queue B were busy, then the call stays on both queues
until somebody answers it.


I think this is a basic ACD feature available on most PBX that support
ACD functionality.

Does anybody knows how to do it with asterisk??



Thanks in advance



Pedro Nunes






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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

2005-10-13 Thread Lorenzo Emilitri
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:39:06 +0200, Tom Rymes [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


What we have done is to set up a single queue that all calls come into.  
For the agents that we want to be our Front Line (i.e.: Customer  
Service Reps), we give them a penalty of 0. Our Overflow group (i.e.:  
Customer service reps who are also dealing with walk-in customers and  
therefore should not be bothered unless we're really busy) gets a  
penalty of 1, and our Last Resort (i.e.: Everyone else) people get a  
penalty of 2.


That way, all of the calls are answered by our front line people, unless  
they are all busy/unavailable. Then, and only then, the calls start  
going to our overflow people, and if they are also all unavailable, the  
calls go to our last resort people. Seeing as how we have more than 23  
people between the three groups, there should technically be no waiting  
on hold in the queue, even with the PRI saturated.


I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but it works extremely  
well for us. To whomever coded this feature, THANK YOU!



As QM supports per service group call flow analysis, I have helped a  
number of call centers worldwide in setting up this feature together with  
the adoption of QM and I can say everybody was quite satisfied with it, as  
much as you can put up with the added problems of running the Agents  
module.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

2005-10-13 Thread Pedro Nunes
Thanks,

That will fix my problem... And agent skills, is that possible too??

Thanks again

Pedro Nunes

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Emilitri
Sent: quinta-feira, 13 de Outubro de 2005 8:17
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question


Hello Pedro,
you should do this using agent priority groups; this way first all low  
priority agents are filled, then another group is used up.
Thanks
l.


On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:30:43 +0200, Pedro Nunes [EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:

 Hi there,


 Does anyone know how to setup an overflow queue? When a call rings on
 the queue A, if all agents were busy, the call goes to the queue B.

 If all agents in queue B were busy, then the call stays on both queues
 until somebody answers it.


 I think this is a basic ACD feature available on most PBX that support
 ACD functionality.

 Does anybody knows how to do it with asterisk??



 Thanks in advance



 Pedro Nunes





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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

2005-10-13 Thread Pedro Nunes
Thanks,

That will fix my problem... And agent skills, is that possible too??

Thanks again

Pedro Nunes

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: quarta-feira, 12 de Outubro de 2005 23:39
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

On Oct 12, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Pedro Nunes wrote:
 Hi there,

 Does anyone know how to setup an overflow queue? When a call rings  
 on the queue A, if all agents were busy, the call goes to the queue B.

 If all agents in queue B were busy, then the call stays on both  
 queues until somebody answers it.

 I think this is a basic ACD feature available on most PBX that  
 support ACD functionality.

 Does anybody knows how to do it with asterisk??

 Thanks in advance

  Pedro Nunes
What we have done is to set up a single queue that all calls come  
into. For the agents that we want to be our Front Line (i.e.:  
Customer Service Reps), we give them a penalty of 0. Our Overflow  
group (i.e.: Customer service reps who are also dealing with walk-in  
customers and therefore should not be bothered unless we're really  
busy) gets a penalty of 1, and our Last Resort (i.e.: Everyone  
else) people get a penalty of 2.

That way, all of the calls are answered by our front line people,  
unless they are all busy/unavailable. Then, and only then, the calls  
start going to our overflow people, and if they are also all  
unavailable, the calls go to our last resort people. Seeing as how we  
have more than 23 people between the three groups, there should  
technically be no waiting on hold in the queue, even with the PRI  
saturated.

I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but it works  
extremely well for us. To whomever coded this feature, THANK YOU!

To set this up, just edit the queues.conf file and add the penalty to  
each agent's  member = line like this:

; Front-line - Penalty of 0
member = 100,0
; Overflow - Penalty of 1
member = 101,1
;Last Resort - Penalty of 2
member = 102,2

Hope that proves useful to someone

Tom

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

2005-10-13 Thread trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com
Just remember to set your phone in the group with the highest possible
priority :)

On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 09:36 +0100, Pedro Nunes wrote:
 Thanks,
 
 That will fix my problem... And agent skills, is that possible too??
 
 Thanks again
 
 Pedro Nunes
 

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[Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

2005-10-12 Thread Pedro Nunes










Hi there,



Does anyone know how to
setup an overflow queue? When a call rings on the queue A, if all agents were
busy, the call goes to the queue B.

If all agents in queue B were
busy, then the call stays on both queues until somebody answers it. 



I think this is a basic
ACD feature available on most PBX that support ACD functionality. 

Does anybody knows how to
do it with asterisk??





Thanks in advance





Pedro Nunes










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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD/queues question

2005-10-12 Thread Tom Rymes

On Oct 12, 2005, at 1:30 PM, Pedro Nunes wrote:

Hi there,

Does anyone know how to setup an overflow queue? When a call rings  
on the queue A, if all agents were busy, the call goes to the queue B.


If all agents in queue B were busy, then the call stays on both  
queues until somebody answers it.


I think this is a basic ACD feature available on most PBX that  
support ACD functionality.


Does anybody knows how to do it with asterisk??

Thanks in advance

 Pedro Nunes
What we have done is to set up a single queue that all calls come  
into. For the agents that we want to be our Front Line (i.e.:  
Customer Service Reps), we give them a penalty of 0. Our Overflow  
group (i.e.: Customer service reps who are also dealing with walk-in  
customers and therefore should not be bothered unless we're really  
busy) gets a penalty of 1, and our Last Resort (i.e.: Everyone  
else) people get a penalty of 2.


That way, all of the calls are answered by our front line people,  
unless they are all busy/unavailable. Then, and only then, the calls  
start going to our overflow people, and if they are also all  
unavailable, the calls go to our last resort people. Seeing as how we  
have more than 23 people between the three groups, there should  
technically be no waiting on hold in the queue, even with the PRI  
saturated.


I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but it works  
extremely well for us. To whomever coded this feature, THANK YOU!


To set this up, just edit the queues.conf file and add the penalty to  
each agent's  member = line like this:


; Front-line - Penalty of 0
member = 100,0
; Overflow - Penalty of 1
member = 101,1
;Last Resort - Penalty of 2
member = 102,2

Hope that proves useful to someone

Tom

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[Asterisk-Users] [ACD]AgentCallBackLogin

2005-08-18 Thread rkvalmiki
Dear Friends,

Iam useing the latest CVS-HEAD of the asterisk

when i use the agentcallbacklogin for the Agent

side apart from the password it is askeing the new 

location ?

and its not accepting the any extension

it gives the error message like this

i could not able to found any related information 

in voip-info.org

Your views in this regard will be highly appreciated.

with regards
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[Asterisk-Users] ACD Login

2005-06-05 Thread adam.collard
How do I login to an ACD queue? I have [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I know I can set static agents, but I have employees that work different departments each day.___
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[Asterisk-Users] acd with mysql or ast_data support

2005-05-21 Thread Richard Z
Hi,

I am using ACD, i.e. application Queue(). Is there a way to use mysql
for the configuration file?

Thanks,
Richard
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[Asterisk-Users] ACD Methods

2005-05-19 Thread Marshall, Ed
Can anyone point me in the right direction of info regarding ACD methods
available in Asterisk.

As far as I can see there are time based ring strategies available but I
cannot find any info regarding skills based routing or queue priorities.

Also do the current time based ring strategies work globally.  What I mean
by this is if an agent is a member of more than one queue then would the ACD
algorithm take this into account before deciding to allocate another call ?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Regards
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] ACD Methods

2005-05-19 Thread Peter Svensson
On Thu, 19 May 2005, Marshall, Ed wrote:

 Can anyone point me in the right direction of info regarding ACD methods
 available in Asterisk.
 
 As far as I can see there are time based ring strategies available but I
 cannot find any info regarding skills based routing or queue priorities.

I don't think there is skill based routing in the standard acd queue
mechanism. We have implemented a matching framework as an addon to the 
alternative queue implementation icd. We use it for a kind of skill 
based routing. 

A rework of the existing acd system seens to be in the works. At the
moment the framework in app_acd makes it very hard to implement 
alternative strategies or a lot of other things one would want to add.

Peter


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