Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @Sebby wy is it time to switch to vlc? I dont really understand what you mean. Vlc from what Ive seen seems like a better option than Wmp or even more Itunes for playing stuff, though it oes not seem half as customizable or easy to use as winamp. To illustrate, I just today did a small charity performance, using Winamp on my laptop set to play specific accompanyment files through my large performing portable speakers and amp. I wanted them as easy to activate as possible, and to not require Supernova (since the last thing my audience want is supernova speaking file names).With winamp I didnt even need to mess around at all and could start each file with pressing two keys, and stop it with one, meaning control was absolute. No mucking about the screen, not even the need to open a menue. That! is why Ill be keeping winamp around, --- oh, and btw as for internet features I never actually used them anyway other than the ability to directly copy Urls and rss feeds into Winamp to listen to podcasts, (again, very easy with just doing a copy and past no subscription or wrating or favourites or library crap getting in the way). @Amineel, feel free to share any programs you create, audio players included, this is the offtopic room after all and weve all enjoyed your work in the past.What formats does your player do? and does it have any ability to configure speaker environments?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=159484#p159484 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi,Does anyone know the reason why winamp is closed? well, because I heard some people says, AOL wants to sell winamp to Microsoft. that was the reason.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=159385#p159385 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Would all you minimalist software nuts consider moving along to MPC or VLC? Because I say its time. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=159389#p159389 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I would think you could play flac on android considering the number of media player options. I dont have any flac files though, so I cant give you anymore specific information than that without googling an testing one.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=159422#p159422 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Heres link to the official site on the matter. Bring winamp back, there is:http://www.savewinamp.com/URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157487#p157487 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Thanks for the site. Well Ive signed the petition, and indeed the fact that its already got close to 43 thousand signatures should say something, indeed Im pleased its got this kind of support.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157489#p157489 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 for playin music I only use winamp. its really the best thing out there.I really hope they open source the project, or sell them to Microsoft, though im not sure if Microsoft is going to treat winamp so well, since they got there own player, (WMP)I also completely agree with dark. iTunes is a nightmare for me on windows. I have never listened a single music on it, and never tried to organize songs.My iPhones songs are very cluttered, its mostly looks like just a one single playlist full of all the songs that recently (two months ago?), I dropped them into iTunes.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157495#p157495 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hello,Sorry for joining the topic perhaps a bit late.Me too, I dont like itune and the way apple manages audio stuff. In fact, they volontarily made itune harder to use on windows than mac, you know why, and you know also why they made import/organization much harder than just buying your music at big price. They want you to say that buying music in itune is very easy and that you give up trying to do by another mean, nothing else. Fuing ultra-over-marketing strategy.The death of winamp makes me wake up on a project I left asleep for a couple years. At some point, I started to code my own audio player...Its not so excellent as winamp, really not, but its very simple: no library, no tag-based crappy auto-organization; just files, directories and URL that you can open, convert, save in a playlist, and thats all.Its not completely translated, there is still some french, but if you like it, I can certainly comple te the translation. Main functions are in order, I would say that 80-90% of the program is translated, just a few words missing here and there.if you want to give it a try, its here. If you dont like it and dont want that sort of links on the forum, just delete it.http://vrac.quentinc.net/6player3.3en.zipURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157498#p157498 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Could you post the link for that save winamp site, if theyve got something to add a statement Id be glad to put my ore in, though I dont know about the forum from your description.Btw, I just had a great example about why the Iphone alt tags thing and libraries are the spawn of satan! A friend has leant me an audio book on cd which I wish to put on my Iphone. So I start wripping the cds to find windows media player calls the files and folders something utterly crazy and nothing to do with the book. Can I find how to stop windows media player auto renaming according to its stupid library? can I hell! indeed, once I wripped the first disk because the stupid program insisted that it was already in the library it wouldnt even let me wript the second, though fortunately I dont know how to delete all the stupid library so that isnt too much of a problem.now, if I were just playing these with winamp, I could ignore this, rename the folders and have done, (heck, it doesnt even matter if the track names are wrong so long as they play in order). However, because they have to go onto an Iphone and I dont fancy re id tagging 50 tracks, what Ill have to do is physically disconnect my net connection so windows media player cant get the album info from the net, and just names the cds with time and date, which means I can rename each folder, and thus have at least vaguely sensible file names on the Iphone even if it ignores my folders and I need to use a playlist. As I said, libraries and id tags are okay for those who want them, but I dont! especially when they are this annoying! Oh and yes, I know there are other cd wrippers out there, though as with Itunes I usually have windows media player configured to do as I want, namely wrip cds when I stick them in, which is enough (indeed I dont use the program for anything else), so havent looked into those thus far.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157431#p157431 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Could you post the link for that save winamp site, if theyve got something to add a statement Id be glad to put my ore in, though I dont know about the forum from your description.Btw, I just had a great example about why the Iphone alt tags thing and libraries are the spawn of satan! A friend has leant me an audio book on cd which I wish to put on my Iphone. So I start wripping the cds to find windows media player calls the files and folders something utterly crazy and nothing to do with the book. Can I find how to stop windows media player auto renaming according to its stupid library? can I hell! indeed, once I wripped the first disk because the stupid program insisted that it was already in the library it wouldnt even let me wript the second, though fortunately I do know how to delete all the stupid library so that isnt too much of a problem.now, if I were just playing these with winamp, I could ignore this, rename the folders and have done, (heck, it doesnt even matter if the track names are wrong so long as they play in order). However, because they have to go onto an Iphone and I dont fancy re id tagging 50 tracks, what Ill have to do is physically disconnect my net connection so windows media player cant get the album info from the net, and just names the cds with time and date and the tracks with numbers, which means I can rename each folder, and thus have at least vaguely sensible file names on the Iphone that will play in order even if it ignores my folders and I need to use a playlist. As I said, libraries and id tags are okay for those who want them, but I dam well dont! especially when they are this annoying! Oh and yes, I know there are other cd wrippers out there, though as with Itunes I usually have windows media player configured to do as I want, namely wrip cds when I stick them in, which is enough (indeed I dont use the program for anything else), so havent looked into those thus far.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157431#p157431 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Could you post the link for that save winamp site, if theyve got something to add a statement Id be glad to put my ore in, though I dont know about the forum from your description.Btw, I just had a great example about why the Iphone alt tags thing and libraries are the spawn of satan! A friend has leant me an audio book on cd which I wish to put on my Iphone. So I start wripping the cds to find windows media player calls the files and folders something utterly crazy and nothing to do with the book. Can I find how to stop windows media player auto renaming according to its stupid library? can I hell! indeed, once I wripped the first disk because the stupid program insisted that it was already in the library it wouldnt even let me wript the second, though fortunately I do know how to delete all the stupid library so that isnt too much of a problem.now, if I were just playing these with winamp, I could ignore this, rename the folders and have done, (heck, it doesnt even matter if the track names are wrong so long as they play in order). However, because they have to go onto an Iphone and I dont fancy re id tagging 50 tracks, what Ill have to do is physically disconnect my net connection so windows media player cant get the album info from the net, and just names the cds with time and date and the tracks with numbers, which means I can rename each folder, and thus have at least vaguely sensible file names on the Iphone that will play in order even if it ignores my folders and I need to use a playlist. As I said, libraries and id tags are okay for those who want them, but I dam well dont! especially when they are this annoying! Oh and yes, I know there are other cd wrippers out there, though as with Itunes I usually have windows media player configured to do as I want, namely wrip cds when I stick them in, which is enough (indeed I dont use the program for anything else), so havent looked into those thus far.Edit: just for kicks I tried importing into Itunes, and low and behold, itunes didnt know what it was either. Then when I assume it imported it I cant find the cds contents either on my harddrive generally in any of the Itunes categories with all of there silly trees and tabs, or indeed n any of the folders in My documets/my music, or in the program folders of Itunes. Stupid, stupid program! well I certainly wont be buying anything from Itunes if it hides stuff you add like this, even assuming it actually wripped and imported the cd properly, (particularly since I know where everything else on my harddrive is).URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157431#p157431 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well, I have bookmarked the Save Winamp website and just signed the petition I think last week. To the forum owners credit, he got right back to me when I wrote him regarding their inaccessible CAPTCHA. He even offered to set up my account for me, but I am unsure whether I want to participate in their forum, not because of the CAPTCHA but because of too many off-topic and poorly-written posts. But Im still giving it some consideration.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=157194#p157194 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well Arcadia I will agree that does seem to be a major advantage of android. @Sebby, I disagree on Itunes access in windows. All those tree views are a pain, and theres no way to get to things easily without using them or change the view, heck, even Windows media player has abilities to customize the interfcae and show or hide different tabs. I also dislike the way on Itunes the actual tracks dont seem to be read properly, and usually i need to read the status bar to know what stuff a playlist has in it. In general Itunes seems the absolute exponent of this stupid modern tendency of throwing everything at the screen at once. This might be okay for a sighted user, indeed I suspect that is the point, but not if your visually impared and need to look through info successively. AgainThis is also why I dislike windows 7 and facebook, I dont want to have to paw through the entire screen or just learn a specific route between two points, I want the relevent information I need displayed and when! I need it, and no more, as with using lists and menues in xp. Of course, this design method isnt unsummountable by any means, as I said Ive found a way to get what I want out of Itunes, but its like the difference between having every cd you own piled at random in a heap meaning you must dig through a lot of stacks to find what you want, and having them indexed and shelved properly meaning you can simply go to the ones you want quickly and disregard all the rest. Of course it wouldnt be a problem if there was an interface choice about what to show or hide so that everyone could have their preferences, but customizable interfaces seem to be going the way of the dinosaur.Again, this is why Winamp is awsome! You can just! have what windows open you need and no more, or even have them all open at once if you wish, can swich between them with ctrl tab and only be bothered by the window your in. On the basic playing window the interface just gives basic playing information about what your doing, not every single random function of the program whether you want to use it or not or even are! using it at the time or not. Now Im back at my flat, Ive downloaded my winamp 5.66 setup file and the chipamp plugin, and will put them in storage, though I do really hope winamp gets taken up even as an open source program, since itd be sad to lose it on future windows.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156869#p156869 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Um, for me, I used for several years now. and I cant wait winamp is going out.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156785#p156785 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Um, for me, I used winamp for several years now. and I cant wait to see winamp is going out.:(URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156785#p156785 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I didnt know iTunes made you sort things in to their library. I guess I thought there was some way around it, which I guess people have figured out but only kind of. Having to make things go through iTunes is one thing I thought about when my mom told me phones that were free on contract. I could get an old iphone, but I like my android because I can just put music on it like it is a flashdrive and not care how its organized. I can even make the native droid player play things by folders or playlists if I choose. I also like all the different apps for internet radio that I can get with my current phone. I wish my service provider would make their apps work, but I can get most of these services from 3rd party apps anyways.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156859#p156859 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well, the reason for Im purchasing music through iTunes is that i dont know of any online stores which have that much epic music which is accessible with screenreaders.Purchasing music is very, very quick and easy, at leased both on the iPhone and on a Mac. I cant speak for Windows though, but I think thats the same.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156716#p156716 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well Slj, accessible and windows Itunes are not good concepts, (Itunes is usable but not easily), it seems Apple just havent even tried which is not good. On the mac Ive heard it is a much different beast. This is one reason I wanted to know about my phone just in case, though as yet Ive not found anything that was an Itunes exclusive.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156723#p156723 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I dunno. I think Apples accessibility is as good as its going to get on Doze; tab will get you to all the controls, even the LCD readout IIRC. And there are shortcuts for pretty much everything in the program, like in most Apple software. Indeed the only other software that just happens to be accessible for Windows that Apple makes is AirPort Utility, and I imagine that was accidental. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156768#p156768 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Nice to know if Ive ever actually tempted to buy anything through silly itunes. Regarding radio, Ill try that tuner radio thing, though to be honest the only stations I particularly listen to are classic fm, and occasionally radio 4 when there is something good on. Ive heard of a rather good specialized bbc7/radio 4 ap that lets you subscribe to specific programs like a podcatcher, which is nice, and Classic fm have their own ap that does various things, though how accessible it is I dont know. Again, Silly, silly apple.Btw, Arcadia, winamp hotkeys are awsome! I dont doubt that foobar can do something similar when setup, but winamp does it out of the box. I particularly like the skip to time feature, since even if you have an audio book that is one massive audio file of x hours long, well you can see the time elapsed by reading the status bar, then just hit ctrl T, type in the time and yo u can get back to exactly where you were, indeed I do find the forward, rewind and time skip functions of the Iphone rather inferior in this respect. heck, when Im listening to long dramas I usually flick Supernovas voice off, but haveno trouble controlling winamp, Ive even used it to play background music in games on occasion since its so system low intensity.Once for amusement value, I used two instances of Winamp to get the main boss theme from Mega man 1 in all its 8 bit glory, playing at the same time as the evil, uba organ remake of the same theme from the shadow devil in Mega man x 5.That was amusing! .URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156646#p156646 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi.Regarding to getting purchased things transfered from your phone into iTunes, its very easy, as soon as you have your phone syncronised. Just go to the file menu or whatever its called in iTunes, and choose to transfer purchased from your phone. You can then go into your iTunes folder and manually copy it to the location you want.Regarding radio on the iPhone, again, screw iTunes and the music app. Apple have made the radio feature available in the US, but only in the US so far. So for that reason, Tune In Radio is the best choice in my oppenion. This app is simply awesome!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156560#p156560 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi,Foobar2000 can be set up to use hotkeys for rewind and fast forward.RobURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156589#p156589 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 You actually dont have to play it through ITunes Dark, even music purchased through the ITunes store. I use WinAmp for that all the time. All you have to do is navigate to ITunes\ITunes Media\Music and there you go. You just find the artist and album you want and youre good to go. Winamp plays it just fine.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156598#p156598 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Dark, if you buy music on the phone, just transfer purchases, or better, go to iTunes, Store menu, Check for Available Downloads. You can go to general preferences, or perhaps store preferences, to make this the default behaviour always, so you always have what you purchased. As for radio, thats in iTunes on the computer, but not the phone. I shouldnt worry about it too much--there are other apps out there for your iPhone that will do it.BTW, somewhat tangential, but this Friday Apple cuts costs on the Apple Store. So if you were looking to get an iSomething, work out what it is and then buy it on Friday. The Apple Store app is very accessible. Chris, yeah, I ruled Bluetooth out because you need compression. You can get Kleer-compatible equipment, but then you need a dongle at both ends; great for Kleer-compatible headphones, not so great for speakers IMO. Bu t Im open to suggestions.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156498#p156498 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hmmm, sebby, what has Itunes preferences got to do with getting things out of Itunes and into other folders on my hd? What i was more wondering is where Itunes put them and even if it is possible to just copy them across since I dont want to play stuff with Itunes on my Pc. Ill also admit Im a little disappointed about the radio thing. Yes, there are likely many other aps that do it, but come on Apple! youve put all these shenanigans into Itunes and it wont even play radio? Even windows media player can do that! .Well Ive been considdering whether to download the Classic fm ap since it is free and its the radio station I listen to most often, now I definitely will.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php ?pid=156514#p156514 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @Dark, iTunes preferences controls whether downloads are automatically done upon purchase. So, as you were asking what happens when you buy from your phone, thats how you enable them. Or do it manually using the Store menu. Once downloaded, root around in your Music folder for the files to copy out.As for radio, well to be honest I dont think Apple cares all that much. Some of the links dont even work anymore. And when iRadio comes out, they wont really have any need of Internet radio anyway, since both iOS and Mac will suddenly present a money-making opportunity (like Spotify) with just their iTunes Store library, which will no doubt offer one-click purchase for anything you happen to hear and like. Its already in the US and will get here before long.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156516#p156516 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I radio? meh. I just wanted something as background with vaguely nice music and some news, not to go and buy random stuff. Againthis sounds like Apple saying our way or nothing! which is irritating. Ill look into the downloads thing if I ever actually buy anyting from Itunes, but the fact I cant just download the thing and do what I want with it puts me off slightly, thats why for while I will certainly buy the next leviathan directors cut and any more special episodes, I will get them directly from the store on the Leviathan site. I was just wondering about the download option in case I run across anything I want which turns out to be Itunes only.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156518#p156518 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Does anyone know if thers another media player that has rewind and fast forward hotkeys like winamp does? I mostly like winamp because it loads things and starts playing them much faster than windows media player or especially iTunes. I also like winamp for reading books because of the previously mentioned hotkeys.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156553#p156553 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi.Regarding putting books, music, podcasts and stuff on an iPhone and iPod touch, I dont understand why people feel like messing around with iTunes. Yeah, iTunes is great if yu like libraries, but if you dont, its just a huge mess.As Ive mentioned many times before, File app pro using ftp is the way to go. Just use your favorit ftp client, add your iPhone as a favorit and youre good to go. File app pro even supports airplay. I also really feel sad regarding to Winamp. I have never heard about Foobar before, so I cant speak for that.Winamp is so awesome, so Ive managed a blind woman who even dont speak english at all to learn the very basic controls in Winamp, and she are using it every day, without any issues. Just hit enter on the file she wanna play, and use play, stop, fast forward, rewind and all that stuff. Dont mess around with playlists and that crab, just the basics. I like that Winamp can be costumized to all peoples needs.For me, libraries arent great at all. I do see why people likes libraries, but when you have music at different places and you just wanna play that damn song, you dont wanna have iTunes to put it in your library if you just wanna play a song from a thumb drive! You know what happens when yu pull the drive out, right? Youll get a nicely error telling that the song cant be located from your library! Imagine a party or simular with friends where someone wanna play songs from his or her mp3 player. Plugs it into your computer, and just wanna play a few songs. Your library will be totally messed up, broken and full of shortcuts to songs which just dont works. And, if youre the kind of person who doesnt care or even worse, dont know where your music is located on your harddrive, youre screwed!Howev er, I dont know if there are any fixes to this issue. But I do understand why some people really likes libraries and I do see the good things about it.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156390#p156390 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @SLJ: Ah, no, you see, when your friend pops in his USB media player, you go to import the contents from the device, and iTunes will helpfully steal^H^H^H^H^Hcopy the files over for you, which you then play. And, by default, it will do that if you just double-click to open each file. How convenient! I will check out that app you mentioned, but out of curiosity, have you checked out Air Sharing? It seems to be the new hotness for viewing locally stored stuff. Also, how are you doing FTP on a Mac? FTP in Finder is read-only.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156391#p156391 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi all,Yet again, I have to suggest Foobar 2000. It allows you to have a library, which is great if you are tagging your music like me, but even if you dont, you can use the folder structure sorting method. In this case, the library tree will show directory names and file names, as youd expect.If you dont like the library, however, you do not have to use it.Replying to a previous message, you can easily set Foobar not to focus its window when adding files to it.And airplay... One of the worst inventions of Apple. A proprietary format that works only if you have Apple devices. But of course this is not surprising.With Foobar, you can use UPnP, which works everywhere. Android, wireless speakers, your xbox or ps3, ios, your mac... you name it!Foobar can tag, convert, rip and burn cds, just like iTunes. The only thing that it does not have is a list of radio and tv stations, but there are far better programs that do, and they handl e radio and tv in a more elegant way. RadioSure and ChrisTV comes to mind.Foobar displays everything on one screen, which imho is a much better way of reviewing things. You are certainly not overwhelmed. Heres what you see in the main window:A tab control for switching between multiple playlists. Your tree containing the library items. A combo box that allows you to sort your library by certain criteria. A search box. A button for syntax help. 2 lists that display the tag of the currently playing file, and other information such as encoding, file size, etc. Finally the list of files in your playlist. Eight controls in total.RobURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156393#p156393 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 robjoy wrote:And airplay... One of the worst inventions of Apple. A proprietary format that works only if you have Apple devices. But of course this is not surprising. With Foobar, you can use UPnP, which works everywhere. Android, wireless speakers, your xbox or ps3, ios, your mac... you name it!Im sorry, but only Apple haters say that. Fact is that UPnP is a horrible, bloated, incompatible mess, and thats despite the fact that its fully published. Look, I dont like proprietary protocols either, but really, given that the AirPlay protocol is now thoroughly reverse-engineered (at least for audio) and there are aftermarket software and hardware products that use it, and that each and every one of these works pretty much flawlessly, its hard to argue that it only works with Apple products. Stop throwing stones, dammit! And yes, I am well aware that I seem to be defending Apple a lot on this thread. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156395#p156395 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi.Lol, Airplay works only with Apple devices? Hmm, youre right when speaking about streaming from devices, but streaming to devices such as speakers, youre wrong. Bose, Sony, Philips, Samsung and lots of other companies have made lots of airplay compatible speakers, recievers etc. But I think i got what you mean. Airplay is great, if, you can stream from an Apple device. Oh no by the way, Im wrong. check out Airfoil, a program and app. Sebby: You can uncheck a checkbox in iTunes preferences so it doesnt automatically copies the music into the local library. Its turned on by default, which means steals all the music from your friends, lol, but you can turn it off. I havent fully checked out all choices when it comes to air strea ming and wirelessly streaming, but its an interesting concept which I use a lot. I assume others just have to be on my wireless network and play around with airplay, or whatever they choose to. I think thats what youre thinking about when mentioning Airsharing?Regarding to FTP, Im using Transmit which is pretty expensive, but it works. There are free alternatives though.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156396#p156396 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @SLJ, for FTP client I just want it to be high-quality and accessible. I know Panic do good work, so is it nicely accessible? Unison, sadly, was partially accessible and then went backwards to being more-or-less useless, so Im a bit concerned. If it is accessible, though, Ill definitely get it.Yeah, I know about that checkbox, of course. I was just joking. AirSharing is like File App Pro. In fact apps like these are, as you said, another solution to Darks problem. These guys also make DiskAid for Windows, so you can even transfer over USB, without iTunes. Ooh yeah.AirPlay is streaming from iTunes or OS X to an AirPlay speaker on the same subnet. Apple sells AirPort Express which I prefer since I can then plug into my existing speakers. The port is mini-SPDIF, so my Philips box gets a clear pe rfect signal from my losslessly-encoded tunes, making me a real snob. Get the Remote app. This is how your friends can vote on your songs. You can also use it to remote-control iTunes, when you have Home Sharing enabled, or you can pair it with a PIN. Its free.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156398#p156398 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Sebby wrote:Fact is that UPnP is a horrible, bloated, incompatible mess, and thats despite the fact that its fully published.Bloated, yes. But only because noone actually modernised it, yet. Incompatible, how so? Those hardware that support Apples airplay most certainly are incompatible with it - thered be no royalties after all. A good marketing strategy, which restricts the end user.Sebby wrote:Look, I dont like proprietary protocols either, but really, given that the AirPlay protocol is now thoroughly reverse-engineered (at least for audio) and there are aftermarket software and hardware products that use it, and that each and every one of these works pretty much flawlessly, its hard to argue that it o nly works with Apple products.From the end users point of view, this is of course not important, because both work. But would you seriously support a format that you have no control over? (note, I do not mean support as use here)And now we have reached the hating Apple part. Quite frankly there are not too many reasons why I should like, even respect Apple - perhaps the only two are low-priced software (and the appropriate DRM) and accessibility. But even that is patented now, as much as Apple could put under patents anyway. (see the touchscreen lawsuits).The rest is quite simple. Overpriced hardware, unless you buy a high-end device. Even then, there are small limitations, just like in the core OS. One of them being a lack of microphone or a line in jack. Quite small things, really, but when you add them up, you realise that you have no freedom left. And then I did not mention privacy.Winamp never meant to force its users, but they were clearly trying to keep up with the trend, by adding radio stations and tv, a library, etc. When that did not work, they tried to get some money out of it, at least. By then, Winamp was nothing like what everyone loved at first sight. Of course that did not work either, thus here we are now, getting close to the 20th.RobURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156402#p156402 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Yeah, Transmit is very accessible indeed, and it have a ton of awesome features. Its an app which might take some time to get used to though, but its fully accessible, or at leased the features Im using are.Yeah, Disk aid is a very nice app, which is both for Windows and Mac. So with File app pro and disk aid, you can transfer using USB which is much faster.Rob: If you buy the 15 inch Macbook machines, youll get a machine with a headphone jack combined with a mic jack like the cheeper Macbooks, but theres also a sepret line in jack which also works as a mic jack. Just mentioning. On the 13 inch machines, youll only get one jack, which is a combined mic jack and headphone jack. This is indeed a limit, which I sometimes hate! But well, where can yu else get a laptop, where the whole case is made out of one pease of alminium, screen of gl ass and a trackpad of glass? I have only seen that on the Macbooks. But well, thats a personal choice.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156406#p156406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I have heard good things about Foobar but havent tried it, so cant comment on that debate, but to be honest all this Itunes import into library crap, retag this, restructure that, and sink the other is needelss over complex, and just seems like Apple making people run through hoops unless they buy from the mighty Itunes store or use the almighty Itunes to wrip their cds. As Cw said, I dont really care! about all these tags and classifications, I prefer to just bang stuff in directories myself and genre classify them, indeed in that big heap of 700 gb I mentioned I can find any audio book, any podcast, or any peace of music I own in seconds simply because of the way Ive organized them, (and again as Slj said, a person who doesnt know where there music is on their hd isnt using their computer properly).Every single thing I own is configured to p lay in exact order, heck, if I play a big folder such as my final fantasy series folder it will play all the soundtracks from 7, advent children, 8, 9, 10, disidia in exact release order since that is how Ive renamed the files.That! is why I personally find all this library stuff to be unnecessary work for little to no bennifit, and indeed given that many of my audio books are individual tracks, or are in series folders in chronological reading order, would actually be a step backwards. i wouldnt be as hard on apple if there was a choice, if indeed it could! work like winamp if you want it, just bang in a folder and play it, but thats not what Apple have done, indeed if Winamp ever becomes unusable Ill likely switch to Foobar before using Itunes just for ease of structure. I agree the library system would make importing to my Iphone easier, but thats about all the bennifit I see, heck, owning a 1tb passport drive even makes cloud storage rather superfluous for me, albeit I can see the bennifits to someone who owns many different devices rather than just one pc, one laptop and one Iphone. Regarding the ftp thing, Its something Ill likely have to look into, though as I said Ive found a way to force Itunes to do what I want by creating a playlist instead of a folder then copying the files into that playlist and deleting it with all contents when Im done. its irritating, but not impossible, and a basic usb system where I could just copy folders across and then play them better. Again, if people use Itunes for everything, just as Apple wants I imagine there isnt a problem, but frankly if Apple want me to use something it should have the same capabilities as what Ive already got plus be better, and Itunes just plane doesnt. That is also why id nev er buy something through Itunes either, unless I could get it out! of itunes and onto my main hd where I could play it in whatever program I chose (probably winamp), or copy it onto a usb or whatever.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156409#p156409 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 The way itunes handles tags blows my mind, not for being handy and easy to use ( (TM). It blows my mind for hands down being one of the most stupid programs ever.. Feed it an album and it will up and split in to three albums just cause it can. Feed it tagged material that you know will end up in the same album because you checked it by hand and what does it up and do? Yep you guessed it it goes off and splits it anyway . The rest of the stuff like home sharing, air play and wireless syncing is really cool but it just falls flat when it actually comes down to organising stuff. Im actually of the opinion that the music handling part of itunes should be broken out into its own program. It would probably end up being lighter on system resources as a resultURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156416#p156416 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @Exodus: agree; iTunes should be split up. Its monstrous now; you load it up and it wants to sync. I now sync all my stuff by just closing and re-opening iTunes.@Dark: iTunes Music is 256K AAC, no DRM. Not a problem. I used to play it on my Nokia phone.@SLJ: Thanks, Ill buy Transmit then. Ive been in half a mind to set up a SMB server, but what with the recent Mavericks SMB yuckiness I might just have to give that a miss. FTP isnt the nicest protocol for smaller files, but at least it actually works. And to think I wanted to set up Samba simply for the broadest compatibility, including with Macs. I guess we Mac users will just have to comply with standards using third-party programs. BTW, the latest MBP also now uses a single jack even for the 15-inch. Yeah, not good, but a worthwhile compromise for me.robjoy wrote:Sebby wrote:Fact is that UPnP is a horrible, bloated, incompatible mess, and thats despite the fact that its fully published.Bloated, yes. But only because noone actually modernised it, yet. Hey, Microsoft and sony are on board. What did you expect? robjoy wrote:Incompatible, how so? Those hardware that support Apples airplay most certainly are incompatible with it - thered be no royalties after all. A good marketing strategy, which restricts the end user.Oh, no. I dont just mean between rival platforms, I mean the whole spec lends itself to massive interoperability disasters. You cant even play a file and be sure the remote UPnP A-V/DLNA device will even be able to render it! Try this glorious rant, for example. And be sure to note the $5000 price tag on the spec, just to interoperate with the important people. robjoy wrote:Sebby wrote:Look, I dont like proprietary protocols either, but really, given that the AirPlay protocol is now thoroughly reverse-engineered (at least for audio) and there are aftermarket software and hardware products that use it, and that each and every one of these works pretty much flawlessly, its hard to argue that it only works with Apple products.From the end users point of view, this is of course not important, because both work. But would you seriously support a format that you have no control over? (note, I do not mean support as use here)If it means happy users? Yeah! I love open standards, participate in the IETF from time to time, and hardly think Apple are saints, but if its a choice between *Sigh*, very well then, let us bend over forward and perform unspeakable favours for those greedy bastards and not having working tech, Ill go with the former. Interoperability, however unclean, is still interoperability. Give me reverse-engineered, if there is no other choice but to pay royalties and someones figured it out.And not to attack you personally, Rob--this is all just healthy debate--but the people who accuse others of following their instincts for comfort and convenience are not the ones to talk, either, unless real anti-competitive tactics are involved, because unless theyve developed something that is competitive that actually works, theyre part of the problem. That includes me, when I endorse those standards which are impractical to implement in reality, like SIP for VoIP, for example. Its a sad reality, but the market leader isnt always the technically superior, most openly specified or lowest cost, and we just have to deal with that.robjoy wrote:And now we have reached the hating Apple part. Quite frankly there are not too many reasons why I should like, even respect Apple - perhaps the only two are low-priced software (and the appropriate DRM) and accessibility. But even that is patented now, as much as Apple could put under patents anyway. (see the touchscreen lawsuits).You mean the ones where Samsung tried to patent the triple-click home gesture?Ah, sorry, we were talking about Apple. What were you saying again? robjoy wrote:The rest is quite simple. Overpriced hardware, unless you buy a high-end device. Even then, there are small limitations, just like in the core OS. One of them being a lack of microphone or a line in jack. Quite small things, really, but when you add them up, you realise that you have no freedom left. And then I did not mention privacy.Winamp never meant to force its users, but they were clearly trying to keep up with the trend, by adding radio stations and tv, a library, etc. When that did not work, they tried to get some money out of it, at least. By then, Winamp was nothing like what everyone loved at first sight. Of course that did not work either, thus here we are now, getting close to the 20th.Oh come on, this is all just a load of handwaving. I mean really, what does it cost to add a cheap USB headset for sound output? Or an external DAC? Privacy? Thats Googles to violate. Overpriced? Nah, myth debunked (mostly); move along. Oh look, Im defending Apple again. Like I said, theyre not saints. But theyre pro-user, and pro-user means pro-me and pro-you as well. Restrictions
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well Sebby, its more getting the stuff out! of itunes and back onto my hd that is the concern as opposed to quality or anything else. Believe it or not there are! things that I dont want to play through my Iphone, like say when i want to use my pc with the big speakers . I agreewith exodous point. Itunes is ridiculous and if you could just have a straight transfer program, a straight backup of your phone data, and then make all the library rubbish extra then I would indeed find it far more useful. Again, this just seems Apple trying to force people to do things there way or nothing, even when (especially with organization), there way is either impractical or down right inferior, at least for people with existing collections of stuff.URL: http://forum. audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156424#p156424 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 thats good to know Slj. I wasnt sure about this though Id be interested to know where the files get put in windows since even if I did! decide to get something through Itunes, I wouldnt want to play it through itunes due to the aforesaid reasons.How about if I bought something on my phone?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156431#p156431 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi.Ok, whats the big deal about a combined headphone and line in port?It doesnt seem like such a big problem, since you can just connect a patch cord from the single port to the other device and use stuff like sound flower and line in to route audio back and forth so you can hear/record it?I dont know, just me.As for airplay, well I like bluetooth better. It doesnt require iTunes to work properly. True, the range is shorter but well I guess you have to have some drawbacks. At least the signal is short enough that the possibility of hacking into the signal is almost none.Though, can you hack a bluetooth signal?As for iTunes, I dont use it and will never use it again. VLC media player on the mac is just fine for me.As for winamp, well Im sad to see it go, but since I dont use windows as a main OS anymore I dont really care.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156439#p156439 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi.Ok, whats the big deal about a combined headphone and line in port?It doesnt seem like such a big problem, since you can just connect a patch cord from the single port to the other device and use stuff like sound flower and line in to route audio back and forth so you can hear/record it?I dont know, just me.As for airplay, well I like bluetooth better. It doesnt require iTunes to work properly. True, the range is shorter but well I guess you have to have some drawbacks. At least the signal is short enough that the possibility of hacking into the signal is almost none.Though, can you hack a bluetooth signal?As for iTunes, I dont use it and will never use it again. VLC media player on the mac is just fine for me.As for winamp, well Im sad to see it go, but since I dont use windows as a main OS anymore I dont really care.editDark, if you really hate using your iPhone as a music player because of iTunes like I do, you should get another portable media player.I for example use the Book Port plus as it just has the SD card that you just connect to your computer, whether it be mac or pc and copy files to the card. You can keep your folder structures how you like and it will allow you to play folders of audio, even allowing you to jump from track to track and folder to folder.Of course you get much much more out of the BPP, like an awesome recorder and some pretty cool wi-fi features for downloading podcasts and a network folder option to wirlelessly transfer content.You could also get the talking mp3 players, I think those are $75 or so and have internal memory and can act like removable drives.I dont know of any more accessible portable media players.But yeah I dont regret not using my iPhone for music playback.I only wish the BPP and these other players had bluetooth. ug!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156439#p156439 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hello,@Sebby:Sebby wrote:robjoy wrote:Sebby wrote:Fact is that UPnP is a horrible, bloated, incompatible mess, and thats despite the fact that its fully published.Bloated, yes. But only because noone actually modernised it, yet. Hey, Microsoft and sony are on board. What did you expect? That is the problem, yes. But obviously Microsoft is too busy advertising Windows RT to do anything about this Sebby wrote:robjoy wrote:Incompatible, how so? Those hardware that support Apples airplay most certainly are incompatible with it - thered be no royalties after all. A good marketing strategy, which restricts the end user.Oh, no. I dont just mean between rival platforms, I mean the whole spec lends itself to massive interoperability disasters. You cant even play a file and be sure the remote UPnP A-V/DLNA device will even be able to render it!The point of UPnP is to let the player determine what it can play. The server will never filter supported audio. DLNA is of course made the mistake of reforming UPnP, which failed, horribly. But this is not the fault of a protocol made in 2000, even if it is bloated. As I said earlier, they are trying to force something modern onto something older that is not meant to handle it. Because they did not rewrite the protocol of course.Sebby wrote:robjoy wrote:Sebby wrote:Look, I dont like proprietary protocols either, but really, given that the AirPlay protocol is now thoroughly reverse-engineered (at least for audio) and there are aftermarket software and hardware products that use it, and that each and every one of these works pretty much flawlessly, its hard to argue that it only works with Apple products.From the end users point of view, this is of course not important, because both work. But would you seriously support a format that you have no control over? (note, I do not mean support as use here)If it means happy users? Yeah! I love open standards, participate in the IETF from time to time, and hardly think Apple are saints, but if its a choice between *Sigh*, very well then, let us bend over forward and perform unspeakable favours for those greedy bastards and not having working tech, Ill go with the former. Interoperability, however unclean, is still interoperability. Give me reverse-engineered, if there is no other choice but to pay royalties and someones figured it out.Yet again, this is all good for the end user. They do not have to pay royalties. But good luck releasing anything having airplay support. I do not debate here the capabilities of Airplay, but rather the way Apple handles it. We are the state, and if we say you see five fingers, even if we show only one, then you see five.Sebby wrote:And not to attack you personally, Rob--this is all just healthy debate--but the people who accuse others of following their instincts for comfort and convenience are not the ones to talk, either, unless real anti-competitive tactics are involved, because unless theyve developed something that is competitive that actually works, theyre part of the problem. That includes me, when I endorse those standards which are impractical to implement in reality, like SIP for VoIP, for example. Its a sad reality, but the market leader isnt always the technically superior, most openly specified or lowest cost, and we just have to deal with that.Of course, this is all true, especially since to prove that your invention is better, you must compete, even if it is open source. But competing does not mean that you do not allow alternatives, or if yours is the only option, enforce it. This is partly psychology of course, but sometimes beliefs can be far more convincing. At least they were, a couple years ago Sebby wrote:robjoy wrote:And now we have reached the hating Apple part. Quite frankly there are not too many reasons why I should like, even respect Apple - perhaps the only two are low-priced software (and the appropriate DRM) and accessibility. But even that is patented now, as much as Apple could put under patents anyway. (see the touchscreen lawsuits).You mean the ones where Samsung tried to patent the triple-click home gesture?Ah, sorry, we were talking about Apple. What were you saying again? Ah yes, the suing frenzy. I was talking about suing groceries, Samsung, Google, HTC, or even Kodak. This will increase even more, as Apple needs more and more money, especially now that the new iPhone sale is not going as expected. Meanwhile, they are handling things really nicely, such as making UK people pay for DR Who specials, and when they realise that it fails, dub it as a mistake and make it available via a season pass. Brilliant, isnt it? Sebby wrote:robjoy wrote:The rest is quite simple. Overpriced hardware, unless you buy a high-end device. Even then, there are small limitations, just like in the core OS. One of them being a lack of microphone or a line in jack. Quite small things, really, but when you add them up, you realise that
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @Chris, well the bookport always seemed over expensive to me for what it did, as usual the word access means a couple of extra zeros, though I confess Ive not looked into the device and its more specialized capabilities as much as I could have done since obviously if I was spending all the cash on an Iphone, I should at least try to get the dam thing to work for me. I did however buy an Iphone in full knolidge that Itunes was a pain in the rear, but the Iphone did many other good things. had I not found my playlist solution for Itunes, I certainly would be taking a close look at the bookport or other accessible portable audio devices, but as it is Ive found a way to make Itunes do what I want. its not as convenient as just copying folders, but it does at least work, rather in the same way Ive setup windows mediaplayer to basically wrip cds and dump the contents in my downloads folder, and nothing else.I will say I have no problem with the basic playback on an Iphone, I very much like the ability to carry books and such around with me and play them quickly, though admitedly this would be true of any portable device.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156461#p156461 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @Chris, well the bookport always seemed over expensive to me for what it did, as usual the word access means a couple of extra zeros, though I confess Ive not looked into the device and its more specialized capabilities as much as I could have done since obviously if I was spending all the cash on an Iphone, I should at least try to get the dam thing to work for me. I did however buy an Iphone in full knolidge that Itunes was a pain in the rear, but the Iphone did many other good things. had I not found my playlist solution for Itunes, I certainly would be taking a close look at the bookport or other accessible portable audio devices, but as it is Ive found a way to make Itunes do what I want. its not as convenient as just copying folders, but it does at least work, rather in the same way Ive setup windows mediaplayer to basically wrip cds and dump the contents in my downloads folder, and nothing else.I will say I have no problem with the basic playback on an Iphone, I very much like the ability to carry books and such around with me and play them quickly, though admitedly this would be true of any portable device.Btw, while were on the subject, how the heck do I get radio stations on my Iphone? Ive tried looking in both the Itunes store and Music but cant find anything, and obviously just going to the website and connecting to the stream as I would with winamp wont do.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156461#p156461 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi Dark.Well, fair enough though the BPP isnt too expensive, not compared to the ridiculous prices of other products for the blind which I refuse to buy. Just thought I could suggest a pretty good player/recorder/podcatcher/web radio player etc. I dont regret purchasing it. I just wish it had better text to speech. Yes, they upgraded the Samantha voice with this latest update but Samantha is so bleck! Why not upgrade Tom?Anyway Im going offtopic.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156483#p156483 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 i am using winamp and i like it when i started learning winows thanksURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156270#p156270 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Im afraid sebby I utterly disagree, since to be honest all that library playlist sharing crap is stuff I dont need, and it annoys me to have it around the interface. Winamp lets you hide and show just what elements you want, and the basic file playback bit is quite easy. organize into folders, play in order etc are all things your os should do, and it irritates me that Itunes cant just do the same, indeed as I said it seems to follow the modern interface convention of chuck as much at the screen as humanly possible. With winamp, to play a complete book or album, I just find the folder, on my organized harddrive, and select play in winamp, and thats it, no mess.I dont mind people using extra services or having the options available, heck, when I was compiling music for our rp session i did!use the winamp playlist feature, but it irritates me when that is the only! option as with Itunes . indeed, the only way Ive found to get Itunes to play folders sensably is to copy the folder into an itnes playlist, ignore everything else Itunes does, then delete the entire playlist and all contents when Im finished. This is doable, but needlessly annoying when I could just copy the folder as is. About mediaplayer classic, well I dont know not having tried it, but to be honest Ive been happy with winamp for years, especially with its streaming and ability to play many different file formats (which I doubt any other player besides foobar could do). Then there as is the equaliser as I said.The main problem with winamp was, as Chris said, I never saw a reason to buy the full version. For cd wripping I configured the default windows media player to basically do an insta wrip and grab info off the net as soon as I stick in the cd, then vanish as soon as the wrip was finished, makin g it an automatic process (actually this was the only thing I do! regularly use windows media player for). Other than that it didnt seem winamp pro had much to offer really. if theyd held back something, like internet streaming say Id likely have bought the program, indeed Im almost a little sorry I didnt now just to support developement.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156271#p156271 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Im afraid sebby I utterly disagree, since to be honest all that library playlist sharing crap is stuff I dont need, and it annoys me to have it around the interface. Winamp lets you hide and show just what elements you want, and the basic file playback bit is quite easy. organize into folders, play in order etc are all things your os should do, (indeed organizing my audio files and stuff as I want them is something I have maintained for years on my harddrive), and it irritates me that Itunes cant just do the same but has to force you to use its own methodology, heck, it cant even use propper folder structures or file names like any decent player. Itunes also, as I said it seems to follow the modern interface convention of chuck as much at the screen as humanly possible which doesnt help either. With winamp, to play a complete book or album, I just find the folder, on my organized harddrive, and select play in winamp, and thats it, no mess.I dont mind people using extra services or having the options available, heck, when I was compiling music for our rp session i did!use the winamp playlist feature (the only time I ever have), but it irritates me when that is the only! option as with Itunes. indeed, the only way Ive found to get Itunes to play folders sensably is to copy the folder into an itnes playlist, ignore everything else Itunes does, then delete the entire playlist and all contents when Im finished. This is doable, but needlessly annoying when I could just copy the folder as is. If Id not! found a way around Itunes stupidity, I likely would have looked into a different portable music player despite owning an Iphone.About mediaplayer classic, well I dont know not having tried it, but to be honest Ive been happy with winamp for years, es pecially with its streaming and ability to play many different file formats (which I doubt any other player besides foobar could do). Then there as is the equaliser as I said.The main problem with winamp was, as Chris said, I never saw a reason to buy the full version. For cd wripping I configured the default windows media player to basically do an insta wrip and grab info off the net as soon as I stick in the cd, then vanish as soon as the wrip was finished, making it an automatic process (actually this was the only thing I do! regularly use windows media player for). Other than that it didnt seem winamp pro had much to offer really. if theyd held back something, like internet streaming say Id likely have bought the program, indeed Im almost a little sorry I didnt now just to support developement.URL: http://f orum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156271#p156271 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Im afraid sebby I utterly disagree, since to be honest all that library playlist sharing crap is stuff I dont need, and it annoys me to have it around the interface. Winamp lets you hide and show just what elements you want, and the basic file playback bit is quite easy. organize into folders, play in order etc are all things your os should do, (indeed organizing my audio files and stuff as I want them is something I have maintained for years on my harddrive), and it irritates me that Itunes cant just do the same but has to force you to use its own methodology, heck, it cant even use propper folder structures or file names like any decent player. Itunes also, as I said it seems to follow the modern interface convention of chuck as much at the screen as humanly possible which doesnt help either. With winamp, to play a complete book or album, I just find the folder, on my organized harddrive, and select play in winamp, and thats it, no mess.I dont mind people using extra services or having the options available, heck, when I was compiling music for our rp session i did!use the winamp playlist feature (the only time I ever have), but it irritates me when that is the only! option as with Itunes. indeed, the only way Ive found to get Itunes to play folders sensably is to copy the folder into an itnes playlist, ignore everything else Itunes does, then delete the entire playlist and all contents when Im finished. This is doable, but needlessly annoying when I could just copy the folder as is. If Id not! found a way around Itunes stupidity, I likely would have looked into a different portable music player despite owning an Iphone.i COULD IMAGINE ON THE mAC THINGS ARE DIFFERENT, AND IF YOU START OUT! WITH iTUNES AND JUST GET MUSIC THROUGH IT AND FROM THE ALMIGHTY APPLE, HOWEVER IF YOUVE GOT A MASSIVE EXISTING COLLECTION WHICH YOUVE CAREFULLY ORGANIZED FOR YEARS AS YOU WANT, AND THEN APPLE SAYS SORRY YOU DO IT OUR WAY OR ELSE! (NOT TO MENTION THE INTERFACE), WELL YOU CAN SEE THE ISSUE.About mediaplayer classic, well I dont know not having tried it, but to be honest Ive been happy with winamp for years, especially with its streaming and ability to play many different file formats (which I doubt any other player besides foobar could do). Then there as is the equaliser as I said.The main problem with winamp was, as Chris said, I never saw a reason to buy the full version. For cd wripping I configured the default windows media player to basically do an insta wrip and grab info off the net as soon as I stick in the cd, then vanish as soon as the wrip was finished, making it an automatic process (actually this was the only thing I do ! regularly use windows media player for). Other than that it didnt seem winamp pro had much to offer really. if theyd held back something, like internet streaming say Id likely have bought the program, indeed Im almost a little sorry I didnt now just to support developement.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156271#p156271 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @Dark, thats exactly what Im saying--youre resisting the migration to a centralised library, and are then surprised when more mainstream players dont appear to meet your needs. Well, of course they dont; you still find files using a filesystem browser. Migrate the files to your library instead, or better yet, distinguish between the good and the golden and only maintain the golden in your library, preferably in lossless format from the original CD. I cant disagree with the need to have choice, and I wish iTunes had more choices for playing files without adding them to library or queueing them up without their needing to be in your library first, but I still think your hatred of iTunes is a little bit unfair when youre not using it the way it was intended.Again though, use the right software. I think MPC is a better fit than WinAmp ever was when I started to use it, though it might not have the same depth of file format support; its limited to those file types supported by DirectShow. I dont think that includes ChipTunes or ModTracker. But, if the (now discontinued, by the looks of it) Foobar2000 will do it, thats awesome. Predictably, OS X is less gifted than Windows when it comes to obscure formats, but all the important stuff is covered including all of the open ones. And yes, try VLC--of all the players, the file format support (derived from work in mplayer and ffmpeg) is simply excellent.Anyway, for now your plan of grabbing the latest WinAMP sounds about right. Presumably youll have to turn off any Internet-related features it uses.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156274#p156274 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I use ITunes mostly for syncing music or books to my IPod. I find WinAmpl easier for when I want to listen to music on my computer. And ITuens doesnt play Nintendo NSF or Game Boy GBS files. LOL.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156290#p156290 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well Sebby I just never see the point in all the library stuff. Ive already got my stuff organized on my computer in folders, directories and files I personally like, why should I mess around with ratings and libraries and stuff? This especially goes for audio books, since its far easier to just find an author and play their stuff directly from windows explorer. Again, if people like all the extra hassle and ratings and such, fair enough, Im all for choice, I just wish Itunes had! choice. heck, it was partly all the library mallarchy that put me off windows mediaplayer in the first place, since to be honest I could never really see any bennifit when all you want to do is play some audio, indeed Ive only ever used playlists on winamp for my rp group as I said. Also, when I mention unusual formats, I dont mean chip tunes, I mean stuff in gamemusic format directly, as well as formats lik e m4b. Perhaps foobar does this, I do know people who recommend it, but again, since winamp has a really nice and customizable interface why not?The only thing Ive disliked in the last few versions of Winamp was the business that if any usb device is plugged in winamp asks if it is a portable music device and attempts to load it, even if its just a memory stick or passport drive, but compared to the irritation of Itunes, or the only slightly less irritating windows media player, thats really not a problem at all.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156295#p156295 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well Sebby I just never see the point in all the library stuff. Ive already got my stuff organized on my computer in folders, directories and files I personally like, why should I mess around with ratings and libraries and such? This especially goes for audio books, since its far easier to just find an author and play their stuff directly from windows explorer. The hole library thing always seemed a bit pointless to me.Again, if people like all the extra hassle and ratings and such, fair enough, Im all for choice, I just wish Itunes had! choice. heck, it was partly all the library mallarchy that put me off windows mediaplayer in the first place, since to be honest I could never really see any bennifit when all you want to do is play some audio, indeed Ive only ever used playlists on winamp for my rp group as I said. Also, when I mention unusual formats, I dont mean chip tunes, I mean stuff in gamemusic format directly, as well as formats like m4b. Perhaps foobar does this, I do know people who recommend it, but again, since winamp has a really nice and customizable interface why not?The only thing Ive disliked in the last few versions of Winamp was the business that if any usb device is plugged in winamp asks if it is a portable music device and attempts to load it, even if its just a memory stick or passport drive, but compared to the irritation of Itunes, or the only slightly less irritating windows media player, thats really not a problem at all.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156295#p156295 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Fair enough, Dark. Youve obviously made your mind up. Personally Ive made the move, and love having everything easily accessible in one joy-filled application. Sure theres lots of other stuff floating around on my disks that will never go in there, but my purchases jive well with all my CD rips and Audible and BookMaker (m4b built from MP3) books, I can remotely control my library from my iPhone and stream it round the flat with AirPlay, copy or play library items easily and automatically from iTunes on other computers or iOS devices, share my library with guests and let them vote on songs to listen to, and its all just fabulous. I guess you could say I was a true consumer. Of course, it also helps a lot that I manually migrated most of my stuff. Perhaps you cant do that with your library, and need extra tools just to tag your files using ID3 with information stored in folder paths, just so iTunes doesnt turn your lovely collection into a steaming pile. I can appreciate how thats one hell of a disincentive, but if you name your files consistently its just a matter of writing or using a script or program that will perform the tagging before you import.Anyway, different spokes for different folks, I suppose, as usual. I just wanted you to know that there were success stories as well as haters. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156298#p156298 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Ive never used iTunes so cant comment on that. If memory serves me, it is accessible though with System Access and JAWS on the Windows side. I have, however, used Foobar2000 and it didnt work that great for me. Dont know why though, perhaps I was using an incompatible version or something. But I might try it out again at some point. I love the name. For some reason it reminds me of one of those cereal bars, and I really like those. Or perhaps some sort of medication? Anyway, Ill definitely check out the petition but I think these days open-source is good.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156308#p156308 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @jjgeek, well the issue isnt itunes beeing accessible, its that to access it its interface is a pain, and not straight forward. that is the problem. its doable, but with roughly 10 times the trouble of winamp. @Sebby, I agree different people different hthings, however its the lack of choice in Itunes that annoys me and the fact apple just come along and say make all your files comply with our system orelse! irrispecftive of what Ive been doing for the last few years.Why the hell should! I have to write scripts or do renaming just to do things like play files from an audio book in order? and why cant I just transfer stuff onto my Iphone the way anURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156339#p156339 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 @jjgeek, well the issue isnt itunes beeing accessible, its that to access it its interface is a pain, and not straight forward. that is the problem. its doable, but with roughly 10 times the trouble of winamp. @Sebby, I agree different people different hthings, however its the lack of choice in Itunes that annoys me and the fact apple just come along and say make all your files comply with our system orelse! irrispecftive of what Ive been doing for the last few years.Why the hell should! I have to write scripts or do renaming just to do things like play files from an audio book in order? and why cant I just transfer stuff onto my Iphone in the folders Ive created the way any mp3 player works? As I said, if you go apple from the start and begin with that system, and just! download everything through Itunes, well thats a different s tory and likely works better, indeed that I suspect is what Apple want. I also imagine Itunes on the mac is less bloody stupid with its interface. However its the incompatibility with all my existing stuff, over 700 gb of existing stuff that gets up my nose. As to library advantages, well Ive never really seen advantages to the system myself in windows, whether in winamp, windows media player or whatever. I dont particularly care about peoples ratings, or whatever sort of genre or other random classification the software wants to chuck on me, as I said, ive already got my stuff organized as I like in forders Ive setup myself which is good enough for me. I will agree that having instant transfer onto my Iphone would be a useful thing, bug again, not particularly enough to make me want to go and rejigger all my stuff with Apples silly tags just so they will play in propper order (aside from the fact that the way Apple organize stuff isnt the way I like to), especially with something like an audio book which I may listen to once, then not come back to until years later.As it is my way around, by just creating a playlist with an appropriate folder name in itunes, then copying the contents of one of my folders into that playlist works well enough, albeit its less convenient than just copying the folders across directly would be.As I said, If you find the library thing with the ratings and whatever of use to you, thats fine, I agree very much with your different strokes comment, it just narks me that Apple unfortunately dont. That! (along with its less than stellar interface), is the thing I hate about Itunes.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156339#p156339 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Ok I can see both sides of this in a way. If you have all of the ID3 tags correct on all your audio files, then they will go in to ITunes right. The main problem is that the ID3 tags on MP3s dont fully have all the needed data that Itunes needs to sort stuff the way I want it sorted. For example, there is no tag that I know of that clues ITunes in to the fact that the MP3 is a audiobook or podcast. Trust me, that makes things a pain. True, there is ID3 tags for genre artist alvem track and song, but there is no tag for podcast or book. LOL. The library thing isnt quite so much pain on the IPad or IPod touch as it is in ITunes as long as it has the correct info, but 700 GB of data? That is alot of stuff to go through make shure is label correctly. I personly have all my stuff aranged in folders and browsing those folders with winamp isnt a problem. On the other hand, putting those folders in to ITunes, yuck. If the ITunes library was easyer to navagate, then maybe . I really dont want to change the view of my music enough to have it in ITunes, but the only reason it is there is do to the fact I want it on my IPod touch.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156366#p156366 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Ok I can see both sides of this in a way. If you have all of the ID3 tags correct on all your audio files, then they will go in to ITunes right. The main problem is that the ID3 tags on MP3s dont fully have all the needed data that Itunes needs to sort stuff the way I want it sorted. For example, there is no tag that I know of that clues ITunes in to the fact that the MP3 is a audiobook or podcast. Trust me, that makes things a pain. True, there is ID3 tags for genre artist alvem track and song, but there is no tag for podcast or book. LOL. The library thing isnt quite so much pain on the IPad or IPod touch as it is in ITunes as long as it has the correct info, but 700 GB of data? That is alot of stuff to go through make shure is label correctly. I personly have all my stuff aranged in folders and browsing those folders with winamp isnt a problem. On the other hand, putting those folders in to ITunes, yuck. If the ITunes library was easyer to navagate, then maybe . I really dont want to change the view of my music enough to have it in ITunes, but the only reason it is there is do to the fact I want it on my IPod touch.editI hope I dont lose the Gracenote Media Database in winamp after the 20th.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156366#p156366 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
[Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi all,As youve probably already heard or maybe not, the Winamp media player is gonna be dead passed the Dec 20th 2013.As far as I know, the reason is unknown, at least for now, but winamp.com and all other according websites will go down and there will be no possibility of getting the program itself anymore.The shop for the Winamp pro is down already and the latest version is 5.66.I dono about other people, but Ive been using Winamp all the time and since ever Ive had a computer (which was 486 computer when I was 5 years old) and I think its been one of the best and most accessible media players.One of the alternatives Id recommend is Foobar2000, but it has less features and stuffI dono what made them do that, but I guesss it wasnt very wise move, but still.I dono about others, but Ill continue using it no matter what URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156183#p156183 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 n thats sad nooo!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156192#p156192 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I dunno, it was inevitable, really. WinAmp is old school, and theres really nothing you can do with it that you couldnt do with even Media Player. And, of course, iTunes is now a compulsery download for most people, which means anything goes. Look what happened to Real Player and their dukebox.You might try Media Player Classic; thats an old favourite of mine. You can dig around on the interwebs for DirectShow filters. But its not WinAmp.December 20th is my birthday. I guess for some its a death day. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156196#p156196 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Well to be honest there is an unofficial build on andrelouis.com/programs.Its not the latest but concidering you wont be able to get all the plugins you used to you may have to use that version.I use winamp as a chip player as well as mp3 and I know a lot of radio stations for the blind do use that to and maybe others.Sertainly going to continue using winamp though I have never used its online mode so have killed those plugins.Its rumoured that microsoft is looking for winamp.Lets hope they dont stuff it up to much though I am excited if there is more than 1 media player.I like the shuffle features as well as using it for other things.Foobar well its I think opensource but its free for now anyway and may be the next thing.Its a pitty winamp is going but most use graphical uis, and us blindies only feel it because winamp does have text especially if we have been using it for ages.there is xm player which is supposed to support more chip formats though.I am not sure if oldversion.com will continue to host winamp but it may do which does mean you should be able to get at least 5.65 at least.I have always tried to keep things updated, however the more accessable versions are the 5.63, and 5.3 versions though the 2.9x versions were faster.Its worth noting that a lot of plugins and stuff will be missed but some have their websites and winamp plugins can be run on the xm player.For those that are new users and use touch devices and stuff that may not be a big issue.However I do wander where everyone will go for their chip players now pluss mp3 and ogg and shuffle as winamp is my current chip player of choice.What may have to happen is people just start posting plugin packs everywhere for different things though to be honest a lot of the plugins on the winamp site are quite old, its a shame though really isURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156217#p156217 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 I have a lot of nostalgic feeling for winamp. I used it for a long time like many here, for many years. Ive now switched to Foobar 2000 though, 2 years ago in fact and I havent found anything that foobar cant do that Winamp can, and more accessibly. EG if you wanted to check the track playing time, with winamp the only way you could is if your screen reader was scripted.. With Foobar you can just check the status bar. It also has plugins for every format you can think of, like chip tunes or an extremely good plugin for playing midi files that supports many synthesisers. It also has plugins, a media library, can record, convert, rip CDs, etc. And if there really is something youre missing from Winamp that Foobar cant do, someone wrote a winamp bridge plugin fort it so you can use your winamp add ons.But that out of the way, yeah. I have a lot of nostalgic memories for Winamp. I used it to play music from MP3 players friends would bring ove r. I used it to play my own music, or listen to main menu archives or other podcasts all night, and to listen to radio. All of my friends and family relatives also used it. So yeah, it played quite a big part in my life. RIP!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156220#p156220 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Im a Winamp user to my fingertips. I downloaded the latest version and will port it to my external hard drive so that I have it when the time comes to get a new laptop. Winamp is the only reasonably accessible way to play all the video game soundtracks I have.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156221#p156221 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi,There is nothing ever that can beat Foobar 2ks capabilities. Its like comparing Firefox to IE. Combine that with Mediaplayer Classic and you have a media centre on your pc that plays almost anything you can throw at it, even zip, rar, 7z and other archives.99% of the people who began working with Windows were using Winamp back in the 2.x days, including myself. However it is time to move on now. I feel really sorry for those who bought Winamp though.The program was good, until the 3x versions, when they added video support, but ever since it is just getting more and more bloated. Video support, cd ripper and burner, encoder, media library with all the added streams that Nullsoft got paid to add, eMusic bundling, Winamp Toolbar and portable media player support... Seriously way too many useless features.As you see, I have mixed feelings. Sort of like when you replace your very first pc with a better one.Despite all this, we must remember one thing: It really whips the lamas ass!RobURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156227#p156227 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi, I use winamp simply because in foober you have everything thrown at the screen, and when foober is open and you click on a file the foober window appears again. I like winamp because when you open a file, then switch to a new one, it switches to that file smoothly rather than bringing the window to the forground.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156237#p156237 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 One thing I like about winamp is that I could set all of the eq without having to tab through the controls. Having each slider assigned to its on sets of keys was handy. Granted, I pretty much ditched all the online stuff that came with winamp. Im wondering how much of this is do to the fact that a keygen was floating around on the net. No Im not going to point out where, but I know of at least one. LOL. On the other hand, there are other ways of ripping CDs besides winamp and its a pretty safe bet that those didnt want to crack or pay for winamp found how to do it for free and without cracking. Basicly for me, I have found that the price charge for the paid version really wasnt werth it. For vidio, I use VLC for the most part. I play vidio in winamp when I can because of my desire for the controls of winamp, but have found that it is alot easier at times to get vidio going in VLC. Its going to be sad to see it go, and I will have to try o ut different players to see what I like best. Great... By the way, Im running version 5.623 Does 5.66 have a browsing bug like the version that came after 5.623. I remember something about that...URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156246#p156246 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013
Re: Winamp going to heavens on 20th of December 2013 Hi! I just signed the petition AOL: Keep Winamp alive or let it go open source on Change.org. Its important. Will you sign it too? Heres the link: http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/a … e_petitionURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=156257#p156257 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
