Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sounds good tonight
I am familiar with this phenomenon also. I am certain that this has a lot to do with volume! Oh, and being able to play certain music that is not permitted at other times... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50083 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter V.43 with knob fix
marlowe;312862 Wrote: What do I do to upgrade (which files should I download and run)? I am using Windows (XP). I did this before with FW40, but that was months ago and I've forgotten how to do it! Download the .exe file from the location that Sean pointed at, and run it. HTH -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48966 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wiki page on How to Get the Best Audio Quality
Hi There has been a page in the wiki for some time now entitled How To Get the Best Audio Quality. Its VERY old - in fact it was this page that inspired me to construct the Beginner's Guide, some time ago. As part of the new wiki migration it now appears as http://mwiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/How_to_get_the_Best_Audio_Quality I have had a go at editing the page to bring it up to date (it was written when SB2 was brand new!). However it wasn't my page to begin with, and there are doubtless many other ideas that people would like to drop in. I think it would be good to stick to what I think was the original authors intention: i.e. to stay away from the controversial and esoteric stuff, and just answer the basic question how should I set this thing up and use it, if audio quality is important to me?. However what constitutes controversial is of course itself controversial, so having done a basic update I will now stand back and let the denizens of this forum have a go ... it is a wiki after all! Over to you... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46443 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SqueezeCenter-7.0.1-17957
See the later parts of this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42960page=7 HTH -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45171 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter owner...
Kris;276667 Wrote: Hi Guys Firstly, WOW what a device. It's fantastic - I'm amazed at its detail. I'm running it streaming FLAC audio from a 2TB Nas, its mind blowing. I've connected its digital output to a Bel Canto DAC3 which connects into a Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated, powering JM LAB Electra 1007 BE speakers - the sound is stunning! Few issues I'm hoping someone can help me with: Volume Control - Which is the best device to control my audio keeping MAX quality? The Bel Canto DAC? The MF Amp or the Transporter? Currently, I have set the Transporter too MAX volume and adjust it further with the MF Amp. The other option is to adjust it via the Bel Canto - what do you suggest?? Secondly, I've had the unit Freeze alot so far, which is disappointing along with the remote search/browse functions not working (it kinda gets into some strange loop) How can I determine the software version, and what version should I upgrade to? Thanks for listening Kris- Yeah, its not bad, is it? Just as a matter of interest - have you tried comparing the sound using the analog outs from the TP straight into your amp with your current setup? The DAC in the TP ought to be at least as good as that DAC, though of course this will be highly subjective. For the volume control: as a general principle control volume as late as possible, assuming that nothing is being overdriven in the chain. If its convenient to use the amp volume control, then use it and leave the TP and DAC at MAX. Having said that, for normal 16 bit sources you do have quite a bit of headroom before you will start losing any SQ. The freezing is disappointing, it shouldn't do that. Are you connected wireless or wired? (wireless networks cause a lot of problems around here.). For the software version, go to settings on the web interface and follow your nose. You should be running 7.0 these days. HTH -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44360 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Questions on Transporter's Digital Volume Control
coupon;259161 Wrote: I am wondering how does the digital volume control work on the digital output signal path (ie. coaxial output from the transporter) on the transporter. Will it degrade the digital signal when it's use in less then full volume output? Thanks Many threads here on this topic already. including this one: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39611highlight=digital+volume+control The short answer is: eventually, yes, but you have quite a lot of room to play without losing any resolution as the signal path is 24 bit and most sources are only 16 bit in the first place. If you are using the digital out you can always choose to lock the digital output at max, and do your volume control downstream in your amp. HTH -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Amp or A/V Receiver Suggestion
There have been a few threads on this, though I can't immediately lay my hands on one of them. Basically you want to use a decent stereo amp to drive your stereo speakers, but a more basic receiver for HT, including using the same front speakers? Yes, this can definitely be done, I do this. To make it work you need first to be able to get the preamp output from your receiver for the two front channels - if the receiver doesn't offer this (I'd be surprised) then you're stuck. Then you need to connect those outputs to a spare input on the stereo amplifier: when you're playing DVDs the signal will be decoded by the receiver, it will drive the surround channels directly, and the fronts via your stereo amplifier. Meanwhile you connect the SB directly to another input on the stereo amplifier, which means you can play your stereo at good quality without the receiver having a chance to mess it up. One problem is that when playing DVDs you now potentially have TWO volume controls to play with, which can be very confusing. If the receiver has a fixed-level output that's fine, but unlikely. A more likely option, especially if you are buying a new stereo amp, is to get one with the option of fixed level inputs (sometimes called something like HT bypass). You last problem, a minor one, is remote controls: it can be a bit fiddly to change everything around (you need to have up to FOUR remotes in your hand to watch a DVD). Harmony all-in-one remote recommended to solve this sone! HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40353 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC decode - server or SB?
SteveC;242622 Wrote: Sorry to jump on the thread, but I have never understood the slimserver settings to set where the decoding happens - could someone kindly spell out for me exactly what I set in that list of file types in the setup interface? I have two main file types: Apple lossless (.m4a) that I want to decode on the Transporter (or SB3 in another room) and higher bit-rate mp3s which I also want to decode on the Transporter or SB3, the choice being due to other network traffic. Thanks. (I'm running the unix-type slimserver: SSODS on a Synology CS-406 NAS) In Server Settings - file Types you tick the conversions that you want to allow, and untick ones you don't. If you allow more than one conversion type for a given input file type, slimserver will choose for you from a priority list which varies for each player type (depending on its capability). However none of the players have the ability to decode Apple lossless natively - you will have to transcode to FLAC, WAV or MP3 (not recommended). MP3s are always decoded natively. HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB+ info please
Hey guys, please cool it. This thread started out as a genuine discussion on the relative merits of different kit, which I think is what this forum is for. Around about page 2, someone injected some humour which someone else didn't get and we seem to have spun off into another of those threads which give this board a very bad name. Just stop, now. Please. Thanks Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB+ info please
honestguv;240292 Wrote: They were not intended to be provocative, I was simply disagreeing with ceejay and, hopefully, explaining clearly why. Since your reply does not address the point I was trying to make I may well have failed in this. The comments were of course addressed to the rational rather than the audiophiles in the thread and I used the word audiophile in the way of the older generation of the technically literate about sound and audio. The young increasingly seem to use the word for all sound/audio enthusiasts rather than just those that hold flat-earth beliefs. Well, I'd be very sad indeed if we couldn't use a bit of humour and that can include a bit of teasing, as you put it. But every now and again this does spin off threads - like part of this one, up to the point of my previous post - which get just nasty, which I don't think is a good thing. BTW - I'd also prefer not to abandon the term audiophile to mean only the flat-earth variety. Maybe that means I count as young in your understanding, which would be delightful (its a long time since anyone called me that!). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Choices
You missed one. 7 - spend 500 USD on new music and listen to it for hours and hours... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39810 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Bolder Mods
servies;238874 Wrote: ... when the bitstreams are the same, that there can be no difference in sound. I know that several other people have already tried to point out the error here, but I'll have another go... This statement is unfortunately false in the context of the digital output of a CD player (or SB, etc). Thats because the output signal contains clock (timing) as well as data information, and the receiving DAC has to try to extract both timing and data from a single waveform. If that waveform is imperfect (which it ALWAYS will be) then it becomes more or less difficult for the DAC to recover both. Some DACs, by design, are relatively immune to timing errors, however most are not. The resulting sound will therefore be noticeably different depending on the quality of the digital source, even if the data bits are identical. This is entirely different from, say, a TCP/IP connection, or an IDE disc connection, where the data transmission takes place entirely in a digital domain and the only possible errors are bit errors (which are likely to be corrected and fixed anyway). HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39684 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My TP system sounds so lifeless :(
slimkid;238776 Wrote: I'm afraid we have very serious case of upgradeitis here. Nurse, hand me a check book, please. K I'm with slimkid on this one. Every time I've ever upgraded my audio system it has always sounded breathtakingly wonderful - for a while. But then you get used to it, and it starts to sound normal. The only way to spot this is to go back to something that previously sounded ok and which will now sound awful! So, in other words, we keep spending more and more money just to have an increasing number of audio systems sound awful?? Just play some music and enjoy it.. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 3rd party power supply
opaqueice;237885 Wrote: Fair enough, but a radio is a very special case. Its function is precisely to pick up RF radiation and amplify it. Other audio equipment is designed *not* to do so. True, of course. Although I might quibble and say that it *should* be designed to reject RF, but it may not always be the case that it actually has been! I do know that in the long-distant past I have designed electronic gear that was meant to reject RF but still was affected by it in entirely unexpected ways... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39353 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 3rd party power supply
Well, my first though is that $259 seems rather a lot if all you're trying to achieve is elimination of the potential RF effect of a switching PSU. I think I paid around $40 for the one unit I have, attached to an SB2. Incidentally, the answer to the question does the linear PSU make a difference in this particular system is a resounding yes: no need for DBT!! The reason is that the SB2 is in close proximity to an FM radio, and the switching PSU makes the radio completely (and I do mean completely) unusable. Moving over to a linear PSU made it usable again. I would consider this test to be proof of the proposition that the switching PSU throws out RF noise that *MAY* affect other components nearby. Whether that effect would show up as a subtle degradation of audio quality, as claimed by a number of listeners, I couldn't possibly say. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39353 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Pre-amp or amp with volume bypass
teejay;235214 Wrote: Sorry for the rambling so far, there is actually a question in all this. My HT receiver has pre-out connections for all channels, so I could imagine a setup like this: - multi-channel sources hooked up to my HT receiver - front L/R pre-out of the receiver going to a 2-channel amp or pre-amp - analog sources (SB primarily) connected to the 2-channel amp - front L/R speakers amplified by the 2-channel amp, C+surround by the HT receiver Hi I have almost exactly this setup and it works very well for me. I have a Transporter (and nothing else) feeding an Arcam FMJ A32 Amplifier, driving 2 front speakers. Everything else feeds into a Denon 2805 AVR, which drives the surround speakers directly and a spare input on the Arcam. For this to work, as you've noticed, its essential that you are able to fix the volume level (at a level of your choosing so you can balance the channels is handy but not essential if your AVR can trim volumes, I guess most can) on the 2-channel amplifier - quite a few have this feature (sometimes called HT Bypass or similar). Its also a really good idea to have a decent remote - I use a Harmony - so you can switch everything around with a single button push. HTH Ceejay (no relation) -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39320 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 digital output quality
DennyL;234726 Wrote: If they sound different, then the two streams of numbers are different. Surely we can all accept that. Nope. Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39113 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which integrated Amp should I get?
batangas;233628 Wrote: I have my Transporter connected through old Quad 303 / 33 Pre and Power amp. Using my old Kef reference speakers. have been wondering on upgrading the amps to Arcam top of the range. Any thoughts? Not quite top of the range but my Transporter is connected to an Arcam FMJ A32 and it works pretty well for me... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39126 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inexpensive System for Kitchen/Breakfast Area
Or, in a similar vein, these: http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/Product_range/Aego_series/Aego_M.asp I have these in my office system and am very happy with them... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38793 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] signal strength
it may be that the effective data rate you are able to get is reduced by interference to the point where it is less than the data rate of your music. Try streaming a low bit rate mp3 - or internet radio station - and see what happens. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38566 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
Patrick Dixon;218286 Wrote: Good post. However, I think that identifying the source/method is an unnecessary and overcomplicated step. You simply need to repeatedly be able to detect a difference when there is one, and no difference when there isn't. Identifying which is which is not required to prove that the two cases are different, and trying to do it introduces a whole new set of perceptive errors into the experiment. Once you have established a difference, you can then set about trying to identify what that difference is, and whether one case is an improvement on the other. Well, I guess what this means in practice is that if OP did a proper blind test and wrongly identified the source 80-90% of the time, that would demonstrate an audible difference: though it would beg an interesting additional question as to why he preferred option A while sighted and option B while blind... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume Control
RadioClash;217748 Wrote: Seems like I remember reading in another long thread that it is better to set the SB volume to 63 in slimserver (0 volume). Are you saying it is better to set the volume to full in slimserver (0)? These settings are confusing You may be confusing the volume control with the Preamp volume control (SB only, not TP, at least on my installation). The Preamp volume control shows db of attenuation (analog outputs only), so 0 = no attenuation = full volume. The normal volume control goes from 0 to 11 on the web interface and 0 to 100 (was 0 to 40 for a while) on the remote interface. HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37047 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume Control
blakeh;216639 Wrote: This sounds like a good idea, but the signal is still being processed by the SB3 even if it's turned up to max. In addition to what Jim said ... if the SB volume is set to max, then the digital out signal is NOT being processed by the SB, it just passes the bits straight through. Only if you ask for attenuation will it make any changes, in the digital domain. The setting mentioned by Jim was added mainly for peace of mind in people like yourself who want to be sure that the bits are passing through unchanged: it has the added bonus that you can use the volume control for adjusting just the analog output (in case you are driving two separate devices on the analog and digital outs). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37047 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
This song predates the term audiophile by a few decades but otherwise has it pretty much right: http://www.lyricshornet.com/1034464/Donald-Swann-Song-of-Reproduction-Lyrics Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
There's really only one kind of audiophile - broke ! [= no money in case that doesn't translate to your locale]. For the real low down, look in YouTube for an excellent video on the Audio Club of Athens (also linked from a thread in this forum somewhere). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?
jaysung;214795 Wrote: I presume that your mainboard and the SB alike have optical digital outputs. So there should not be any electrical influence ones the signal has passed the optoelectrical converter... Not so... the optical digital outputs are directly driven by electrical-to-optical devices which will faithfully transmit a lot of the noise - certainly any jitter - which they are presented with. But I can't see why the squeezebox (a very tightly packed package) should induce less electrical noise than a fully grown pc. That's easy - there is a lot more going on inside a PC than inside an SB, and there is generally no particular design goal of the PC designer to minimise the electrical noise. But, please note that I have only been arguing that there *might* be a difference - whether there is one in a given case is another matter entirely. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36784 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?
No, its not always the same. Although the sequence of 1s and 0s ought to be the same, this has to be represented by an analog electrical or optical signal which can have timing or other imperfections. These imperfections may or may not trouble the device that is receiving the signal: a signal with a lot of noise in it will obviously present more of a challenge to the receiver. Typically this shows up as jitter (search the forums for many, many threads on this topic) which can have some subtle distorting effect on the receiver. But a really top class receiving device (presumeably a DAC in this case) might be able to overcome any noise and make all sources sound alike. HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36784 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] s/pdf SB better than s/pdf soundcard pc?
Well, there is a reason why there *might* be a difference - the electrical noise within a computer case is generally very high, and could easily do nasty things to the level of jitter on the digital output. Whether thats important in your case will depend on the ability of the Arcam's DAC to reject jitter. Just listen! If you can't hear a difference then there isn't one, and you might as well liberate the SB to work for you in another room... IMHO. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36784 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Streaming WAV audio ?
brjoon1021;212852 Wrote: I read in a thread somewhere that streaming WAV audio was referred to as a kind of freebie upgrade for sonic quiality when compared to flac. I am pretty new to all of this. What is WAV, how do you rip to WAV ? Are there any drawbacks other than size of file (assuming it large) to using WAV. Is that what all of the audiophile people are doing? Thanks, B. Most rippers rip to WAV in the first place, then transcode to FLAC, MP3 or whatever else you ask for. EAC will do this easily, for example. Besides size of file, streaming WAV uses more network bandwidth which may be an issue in some marginal wireless networks. More importantly, perhaps, you can't (except by using some highly non standard stuff) add tags to WAV files, which makes attaching metadata to your music files a bit tricky (you're limited to whatver you can encode in the file path eg /genre/artist/album/...). Some people do claim that WAV files sound better than FLAC, but I've yet to see an even half-convincing explanation of how this might work. You can always, of course, rip to FLAC (which gives you the smaller files and tagging capability) and have slimserver transcode to WAV on the fly, which would give you the alleged improved sound quality at the only cost of losing FF/RWD capbility (because you can't do that on transcoded streams). HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB vs SB+ vs Transporter as transports
cliveb;212552 Wrote: There's a law in the UK whose name I forget (I think it includes the phrase distance selling) which concerns buying things mail order. Basically, anything you buy mail order can be returned for a full refund within a certain number of days (not sure how many, probably 7 or 14) if you decide you don't like it. Obviously you lose the carriage charges, but apart from that it's a free trial. I'm sure someone else around here knows the details of this law in more depth and can clarify things. 7 days. See http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources/resource_base/legal/distance-selling-regulations/ but note the seller is within the rights to refuse a return if the packaging is damaged (ie you've opened it!). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36561 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
Hi Sean thanks for your (as usual) helpful commentary. I'd just like to chip in with some thoughts: you've described well why a scanning feature is not likely to be forthcoming, and also the difficulty with transcoded formats. Having read many of the same threads as you obviously have, I think this leaves at least one problematic area still to discuss - the UI. If you start from the premise that the FF/RWD function that we have is all we are going to have, I think there is still a legitimate concern over the way we access it (the overloading of the FF/RWD buttons with the skip functions, short and long presses...). Quite a few people find this hard to use - this includes me, though personally I'm not that bothered as its not a feature I consider critical. Just separating Skip and FF/RWD buttons on your next remote (as was suggested in a recent thread, can't find it for now) would help. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
krzys;211389 Wrote: Can you explain please? Chris http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35468highlight=Moose -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will this Elpac Power Supply Work?
Videodrome;205517 Wrote: Am I on the right track? Help! Thanks, VD Nope, that's definitely a switching power supply (see the catalog page details). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35704 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on a 2 channel rig
patherb2;205233 Wrote: Yes, this will be a completely separate setup. ok - but still not clear if you are going to a separate location. If your motivation is, as you say, to get your 2-ch signal away from a multichannel amp then you can always have both driving the same front speakers. Just have a straightforward 2-ch setup driving your fronts: then for the multi-channel take pre-outs for the two front channels from the receiver into spare inputs on the 2-ch amp, preferably with a fixed gain (HT bypass) option, while driving the surround channels directly. I have this set up with a Denon receiver and it works well - but a universal remote is recommended to get everything switching correctly together! Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on a 2 channel rig
One question for OP - is this additional setup going into a completely separate location from the original one? I'm presuming so since you mention a separate SB... in which case it would be interesting to know the motivation for the new system. Is it because you just need music in a different place, or are you trying to get a better 2-ch dedicated system just for music? Its just that you already have GS10s as your fronts, which are pretty good - are you expecting the RS6s to be as good? Ceejay (2ch setup: Transporter + Arcam FMJA32 + GS20s = music) -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Different servers sound different
IMHO the most likely explanation for any difference between different server installations would be if some configuration difference had accidentally crept in while installing - perhaps different volume or preamp settings, or file format transcodiing options. If all of those variables have indeed been eliminated, then I think you've just done an excellent demonstration of the power of the placebo effect. On the other hand, if you do want to go looking for differences, you will first need to be clear about whether you are streaming the WAV files directly to the SB, or whether (the default) they are being transcoded to FLAC before being sent. If the former, then you are going to have to think very hard about what mechanism might be in play to allow the OS that is sending the WAV files down a heavily buffered IP network to affect the way that the SB is delivering the bits to a DAC. If the latter, then we are back in the FLAC sounds different to WAV discussion, which I'd rather stay out of, though I do note that proponents of this argument usually offer an explanation along the lines that there is some odd effect of the FLAC-WAV decoding in the SB which is causing an audible outcome... how that would work when the DAC is external to the SB I really can't imagine. Unless of course the servers are generating airborne or mains-borne interference with the DAC, in which case the SB is irrelevant anyway... IMHO. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35382 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hum?
AFAIK audio kit only hums when it doesn't know the words? Ceejay (slinking into the corner) -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33414 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help: speakers and kid's safety
My floor standers, like many others, came with a fairly broad base - you would need to deflect the speakers through a large angle (sorry, not measured it) before they fell over. However this will,as you say, entail lots of listening and expense and even then will only reduce the risk somewhat. If it were me, I'd be looking for ways to tie down the back of the stand to the floor (somewhat like the way we tie the top of bookcases to the wall for much the same reasons). Screw into the floor, a short strap, and then (the tricky bit) some attachment to the back of the stand. You can also reduce the risk of toppling sideways just by placing objects (eg equipment racks, TVs, CD racks...) beside the speakers. Whatever, its a compromise. True audio nirvana will only reappear when the kids are big enough that you don't have to worry about this sort of thing anymore! Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35325 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using Transporter as a pre amp has me puzzled.
Well, unless you have a means of getting the two front channels out of your 5.1 amp and into one the TP inputs, you may be stuck. And I'm not sure I'd call the TP a preamp, really - a multi-input DAC, perhaps. I have a slightly similar setup, but don't have your problem as my main 2 channel amplifier is an integrated amp with spare inputs - so I can take the preouts from my 5.1 amp and feed them into the 2-ch. Could you find an alternative (integrated) amp? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35144 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 to power amp. Confused
Well, I'll try... First can you just confirm that you have the Preamp Volume Control (Player Settings-Audio) set to 0, ie 0dB attenutation, ie max output level? If that is the case, then you are indeed running the SB at maximum output. Your problem is that none of the specs you've quoted for the amplifier are really relevant. The input impedance of 60k just tells us that the SB will almost certainly be happy driving that. It tells us nothing about the gain of the amplifier - i.e. what input voltage corresponds to a given (max, say) output. It may be that the balanced inputs have a different gain/sensitivity: it may also be that the DAC has a different output level than the SB. But if you're happy that the max volume you're getting is loud enough, that's great - it means you don't have to fiddle around with external attenuators to reduce the risk of blowing your speakers... HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34150 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on transporter's jumpers to alter analog volume out
opaqueice;192188 Wrote: Why do you say that? The jumpers on the TP are analogue attenuators, right? It's not at all obvious that not using them will give the best S/N Well, if not obvious then it is at least likely ... Noise introduced by the amplifier after its gain control is of course irrelevant here - it is whatever it is and nothing we do with the TP will change it. Similarly, noise introduced in the TP *before* the attenuators is fixed in relation to the signal and can't be affected by what we're doing here. On the other hand, noise introduced by the amplifier *before* its gain control will be amplified more if the input is lower: so introducing attenuation within the TP will make this worse. Similarly noise introduced in the TP after the attenuators, or in the connecting wire, will be more noticeable if you have a lower TP output. So, as you say, it depends on where the noise is being introduced: but there isn't any place that SNR will be improved by lowering the TP output level. That's not to say that the overall sound won't be better - its plausible that there are distortion effects within the amplifier which means that a nicer sound is produced at differing gain levels, but this is not the same as an SNR discussion. IMHO. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some thoughts on transporter's jumpers to alter analog volume out
opaqueice;192266 Wrote: Suppose for simplicity there are only two types of noise - noise before amplification N_B, and after amplification, N_A. Then the total signal going to the speakers is something like g*(S + N_B) + N_A, where g is the gain, and S the original signal. The final signal to noise is g*S/(g*N_B + N_A) So if the noise is mostly from the TP, so that g N_B N_A, the signal to noise is largely independent of gain, and attentuating S (and N_B) doesn't do anything. On the other hand if N_A gN_B, so the noise is mostly from after amplification, signal to noise will improve linearly with gain, and so it's better to attentuate. Actually if this simple formula were correct it would always be better to attenuate, but of course there could be noise components that scale faster than linearly with gain, not to mention distortion. This is one of those cases where the maths looks convincing, and its only bacause the proposition was so obviously wrong that I took the trouble to work out why. Noise introduced after the amplifier's gain control has to be irrelevant: for a given output volume, the signal level is whatever it is, and the noise introduced by the amplifier is whatever that is. Nothing earlier in the chain can affect the S or N values, therefore the S/N ratio. The corresponding flaw in the equations is that, for a given output level, g*S is constant. Increasing g will increase the signal level and therefore the output volume. Comparing S/N ratios for different final output volumes is pretty pointless - the SNR will always be better for higher volumes. I think you might have confused yourself by over-simplifying the system, which actually has several points of amplification in it... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34140 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry
Ben Diss;191022 Wrote: To test this, I had played my favorite test track, Hotel California, through the SB3/Elpac/Lavry and asked my wife to randomly unplug and then plug in the power supply from the wall. We did this ten times and I could not tell the difference in any test. Yes, thats the kind of test I was thinking of. I think you've just confirmed your finding! To go one step further, knowing that I have very clean power and a dead black background I played a test track of all zeros representing silence. I turned the volume up all the way and as usual I heard nothing, absolutely nothing. I plugged in the stock SB power supply and I heard no change. I'm not so sure about this test - I think it demonstrates that, in your system, there's no noise from the PSU getting in after the DAC stage. There is at least a possibility, however, that the (remember they were subtle) changes reported by some people are in the digital domain, inducing jitter for example, which might have the affect of altering the quality of audio without changing the blackness of the background. Thinking about this some more I wondered if the RF interference might be a problem for some systems and not for others. Personally I think we've seen enough reports to have a decent working hypothesis here - there are plenty of systems, including yours, where a linear PSU makes no difference at all, and there are others where the PSU noise is having some sort of effect. Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33986 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry
andy_c;191035 Wrote: Here's a couple of links to posts describing some experiments that Dan Banquer did with a Squeezebox and an AM radio to check for EMI. http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=30075.0 http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=30207.0 In Dan's case, he was using an external DAC, and by replacing the RCA cable between Squeezebox and DAC with a TosLink cable, he was able to fix the problem. Interesting, thanks for those. My limited experiments suggested to me that the noise in my case was being radiated by the output power lead from the PSU (adding a ferrite core at the PSU end significantly reduced the noise). I think the moral of the tale is that noise, once it exists, can get from A to B via several routes! Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33986 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheap tweaks that really work
TCM;191066 Wrote: From AudioCircle: ' Cheap/Free Tweaks ($10.00 or less)' (http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=35936.0) 'Cheap Tweaks ($100.00 or less)' (http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=37980.0) . :-D Thanks for posting those links. Following my nose, as one does when surfing, I came upon http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue1/beltpen.htm which has to be the funniest thing I've come across in a long time... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33956 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry
Ben Diss;190935 Wrote: Gary- I did not unplug it, however it is plugged into a completely different outlet. You need to be aware that it is suspected, by me at least, that the nasty stuff is airborne transmitted, not carried via mains. So a safer test would have been to unplug completely. For next time, perhaps... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33986 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs SB3/Elpac vs SB3/Lavry
slimkid;190991 Wrote: Just out of curiosity, do you unplug all such devices throughout your home while listening to the music. I mean, there must be at least 10 of them in typical NA household. Nope, but then again when I'm listening normally to music I'm not also trying to make a carefully controlled experiment to see whether the PSU has any effect. My direct experience with an SB stock PSU is that it throws out crud with a range of several feet - so similar devices on the other side of the house aren't likely to bother me, just the ones near my important gear. I had to buy a Linear PSU for one of my SB2's because the stock unit made the Tivoli One radio, to which the SB is attached, completely and utterly unusable. I surmise - can't say anything stronger than that - that the same EMI that is killing my radio might also explain some of the less dramatic sound degradation effects that *some* users have reported. Oh, and of course, not being in a NA household everything must be different for me :) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33986 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: Inexpensive Linear power supply
Hmm, not sure about this. Personally I think the issue here is about plausibility. Lets say I make two claims about modding an SB: (1) it sounds better if I put a spot of green paint on top (2) it sounds better if I change the DAC to a different design. Of these, I think (2) is plausible but (1) is not. Of course, my DAC mod may or not in fact make it sound better, but it is at least plausible that it might. Arguments here normally occur because one of two things is happening. (a) someone insists on promoting an idea which someone else thinks is clearly absurd (b) someone insists on trashing an idea which someone else thinks is worth at least considering Or, to put it another way, because two people differ over whether an idea is plausible or not. Now if we could all agree on what was plausible and what was not, we'd be happy (and probably bored because this forum would be so dull). But we don't agree for a variety of reasons. - we have different levels of knowledge and experience - we have different thresholds of tolerance for when a whacky idea becomes worth considering - we have different levels of exposure to the person making the original statement (i.e. trust) So, its hard not to get frustrated when a topic in which one might consider oneself to be expert, or at least knowledgeable, comes up - and somebody makes a statement or claim that is clearly rubbish. Not all opinions are equally valid (unless we are discussing purely subjective matters, of course). Its equally frustrating when someone trashes a proposition when they have no good reason to. In an ideal world we'd be able to conduct reasonable debates on some of these interesting topics, without feeling the need to all agree on a single answer. I doubt we'll ever get there, not least because all of the participants in these threads have such wildly differing starting points. But, please can we at least avoid the pejorative? (Dullard, fascism, rude, arrogant are just a few recent examples). Thank you. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33547 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Very simple. Transporter - Arcam FMJ A32 amplifier - Monitor Audio GS-20 speakers. Actually I suppose for completeness I should also say I'm using the wireless bridging feature to connect an NSLU2 (which is in turn acting as FTP server for my Toppy PVR) to the wireless network. Maybe not quite so simple after all! Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
P Floding;188495 Wrote: Are those testimonials fake? I hope so, at least... Here's a clue: On the Clever Little Clock: I can't believe these things improved the overall sound as much as they did! Is it resonance control that's lowering the noise floor? I hear greater detail in quiet passages and better front to back image definition. Very impressive!! - Glenn, Feb 2007 On the Duplex Covers: I can't believe these things actually improved the overall sound as much as they did. Is it resonance control that's lowering the noise floor? I hear greater detail in quiet passages and better front to back image definition. Very impressive! - Glenn, Dec 2006 ROFL. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] external DAC for Squeezebox
Many threads on this already, such as http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32740highlight=external+DAC%2A This is one of the uses for the digital output - another would be the case where the SB is being used with an all digital amplifier/receiver. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33380 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Please recommend best quality solution
Best way to answer the speed of access problem is to try it out - download slimserver and softsqueeze. Point slimserver at your existing mp3 collection and you will be able to see exactly how it works with a library of that size. Personally I found that 512MB on Windows wasn't quite enough - not that Slimserver used all of that, but when there were other things going on then my total memory usage often got up to 700MB or more. Memory is cheap so I upgraded to 1GB. Can't comment on the sound quality of the other device as I've never heard one, but the TP sounds excellent... HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33197 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Greek Audiophile
Hmmm, here's a question to sort out the men from the boys: Which cost the most: (a) your car (b) your audio (c) the contents of your wardrobe? You only qualify as audiophile if the answer is b. Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33125 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Do you use WAV or FLAC ? Pros vs Cons.....Please :-)
1 - FLAC files are smaller. Spend less on discs. 2 - You can save network bandwidth without having to transcode from WAV to FLAC at the server. 3 - You can get more esoteric tags in if you want to (eg ReplayGain, multiple Genre values, unusual tags like Composer or Conductor, nonstandard tags like Performer). Of these (1) is important to me (it means I can manage with one disc instead of two for my main library) and (3) is absolutely essential (I could not manage without multiple genre values). Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32999 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modding the Squeezebox
95bcwh;180712 Wrote: Tomjtx had a beef with Bolder, so you can ignore his opinion about Bolder's product. 95bcwh - I don't have an opinion to offer on the relative merits of these mods etc but I am getting *very* *very* bored with your sniping and feuding on this forum. In his post, tomjtx has expressed an opinion, to which he is entitled, in civil terms. Post your own opinions, that's fine, but lay off the rest of this cr*p. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32739 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] time for a DBT-free zone??
P Floding;180742 Wrote: Here is a nice example how one extermely low probability, half crazy, theory ascends into established truth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Wegener Nice example. The history of science has several (many?) examples of how outrageous ideas eventually become mainstream. However, let's not forget that there are far, far more examples of outrageous ideas that remain outrageous because they always were stupid. So, if there is general scientific consensus on something (eg HIV as a cause for AIDS, or CO2 as a cause for global warming) then the *likelihood* is that it is correct. Not certainty, of course - nothing scientific is ever certain. But to argue from here is an example of where outrageous became mainstream to therefore I will disbelieve all scientific consensus is, shall we say, a bit dodgy. Just an opinion, of course. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32352 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Manage files
You've not said what OS you are using , but your best way to get out of this mess might be to filter on file size, eg find all files in your music folder over or under a certain size... this might not be foolproof if you have some especially short or long tracks, of course! Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32681 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] plug and play linear supply (part 2)
Denjo;178452 Wrote: Hi I am new to this forum and have been reading this thread with keen interest. I have an Altmann DAC (12 v, ideally sealed lead battery) and the SB3 (5 v). I have been exploring the idea of buying a quality linear power supply and stumbled upon this website which seems to sell commercial and medical grade PS. Not being technically minded, I wonder if this will suit my needs and elevate my system to higher ground! Thanks very much for looking! Best Regards Dennis Here is the LONG url: http://www.rssingapore.com/cgi-bin/bv/rswww/searchBrowseAction.do?obs=sObsname=SiteStandardNo=0N=0Ntk=I18NAllNtt=3839744Nty=1D=3839744Ntx=mode%20matchpartialDx=mode%20matchpartialcallingPage=/jsp/line/line.jspBV_SessionID=0699780411.1170821687BV_EngineID=ccdjaddkdhjdfhecefeceeldgondhgn.0cacheID=sgnetscapeNr=avl:sg That URL doesn't work - it was unique to your session and has timed out. You'll need to find another way to point at the product you are thinking of. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] plug and play linear supply (part 2)
I wouldn't recommend it. It has outputs you don't need and it does'nt look like a house-friendly case. Search this forum for other suggestions. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice
tamanaco;178086 Wrote: Besides not being able to remove gaps and having the ability to work with problematic CDs... what are the reasons why you generally use EAC for ripping? The convinience of saving steps and using a single tool to rip to flac, tag and get my album art is very appealing to me. What do you do about gaps when you use dBpowerAmp? Just to be clear about gaps ... the point is NOT that you want gaps to be removed - you want them to be preserved so that when you play the album through you get the same pattern of gaps (or no gaps) as on the original CD. My only point was that there is a setting in EAC to change what it does with the inter-track gap which might have made a small difference to file sizes, sorry for any confusion. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32425 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] plug and play linear supply (part 2)
j.wales;178111 Wrote: All that being said, what a difference, night and day! I can't believe it. Honestly. And to answer the double blind test question, I have one better. My wife, whom has a fantastic ear, and indulges me in the hobby, was sitting on the couch reading the newspaper and she put it down, shot a look, and asked how much I spent!!! She had no idea that I made any changes to the system. As far as she was concerned we were sitting on the couch, casually listening, reading as we try to do whenever we can. Interesting observation. One simple test you might want to try, in the interests of science: what happens if you leave your new setup untouched but plug the old stock PSU into the mains supply (preferably in the same socket it was before)? If the EMI theory is correct, this ought to affect your sound Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] plug and play linear supply (part 2)
opaqueice;178235 Wrote: ... as for EMI, it's not impossible it could be the culprit, although as we discussed earlier in this thread it's odd that it would affect music playback from the SB but not the noise floor. Not that odd. For example, if you were using the digital outs from the SB, and the EMI messed up the DAC's ability to handle jitter, that would degrade the perceived sound quality without showing up as a worsened noise floor. Add you can easily get similar distortions in a purely analogue domain, where noise induced in a circuit which isn't part of the main signal path induces bad behaviour. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] plug and play linear supply (part 2)
jhm731;178354 Wrote: Simple/Cheap EMI/RFI Solution- install some a ferrite cores at both ends of the 6' non shielded leads. Double ot triple wrap the wire around the cores. See www.steward.com for more information. Indeed, I did try that to solve my own extreme EMI problem, and it did reduce the problem somewhat - but nowhere near enough, which is why I coughed $40 for a linear supply... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] my ripping tool of choice
tamanaco;177752 Wrote: A couple of questions... I noticed that the resulting compression ratios and the file size of tracks ripped using dBMC were a bit different than those ripped with EAC, but I could not figured out how to change the compression ratio or why the EAC ripped files are bigger. Theres a set of command line options on flac.exe (-0 to -8) to make it try harder to compress, though it takes a lot longer for not very much extra compression. Its also conceivable that the gaps are being handled differently, though that would make some tracks bigger and others smaller. I also noticed that unlike EAC, dBMC does not create a .m3u (Playlist file) per CD/song ripped. Do I miss something if dBMC does not create this file automatically? I don't recall#8230; but does the Slimserver require .m3u files for all the CD ripped in order to build/customize playlists? I can not hear any difference between the files ripped and tested, but I want to make sure that I'm not missing something obvious before I rip the next bunch CDs. Lastly, does anyone have tips or recommended settings to rip CDs to flac files with dBMC so that the resulting flac take full advantage of the features of SS and SB3? Creating the M3U is an option in EAC, you didn't need it, SS won't miss the file. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32425 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC Encoder recommendations - and a Winamp impression
pablolie;176866 Wrote: And I have to admit to downloading a fair amount of stuff from iTunes, which of cource comes at 128kbps... and while I'll admit I'll go and re-rip it at 320kbps MP3, it ought to probably only merit 256kbps in my opinion due to the originally compromised format - sounds good though, which makes me assume iTunes tends to doll up the sound and flatter it a little, too. Not sure what you meant by this. Do you mean transcoding the 128kbps downloads into a higher bitrate like 256? If so, don't waste your time and disc space - the information lost by compressing to 128kbps is lost forever. If you want better quality you'll need to rip a CD, or find a higher quality download. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32369 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] time for a DBT-free zone??
While I agree that the continuous repetition of certain viewpoints - especially when not really adding to a particular debate - is extremely tedious, I don't think we would do ourselves any good by simply banning one of them. That way lies balkanisation - a Subjectivist Audiophile forum separated from an Objectivist Audiophile forum by a big wall with barbed wire and searchlights on top! Lets not go there. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32352 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the cover of Stereophile, Feb 2007 issue
But surely all of us that hang out on this and other similar fora are by definition displaying AS tendencies? It would certainly explain some of the exchanges here... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31860 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any one tried isolating feet on their SB ?
So just which part of the SB would be affected by vibration, I wonder? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32301 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: plug and play linear supply (part 2)
jhm731;175585 Wrote: As I predicted in your part 1, I didn't think youd hear any difference with this cheap linear PSU. Well, of course! Any solution to an audiophile problem that doesn't cost at least a grand can't possibly be worthwhile :) (runs for cover) -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: plug and play linear supply (part 2)
opaqueice;175497 Wrote: Which raises an interesting question - if the stock wallwart really sounds worse than the linear, why isn't there a difference in the noise floor for the SB when it's idle or playing a silent track? Doesn't it seem odd that the effect is audible during complex musical passages, but not present at all when the noise floor is clearly audible? Which brings me to music. So far, I don't hear any differences. I'll try again later when I have more time to listen. Refer to Sean's earlier posts on this topic. his measurements suggest that there really is no difference in the performance of an SB with a linear or switching PSU, because of the internal regulation that takes place. OTOH there is plenty of evidence for severe RFI pumped out by the switching supply, and if your downstream kit is affected by it you will hear a difference. Otherwise, otherwise. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32231 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A Cut-Rate Audio philes Experience With a Linear Power Supply
Sean has published some thoughtful notes on this forum about linear power supplies - to the general effect that there isn't any reason why they should make a difference (given the internal regulation that takes place inside the SB) and that measurement confirms this. OTOH various users have had quite different experiences - some swearing that a linear supply makes a huge difference, others like yourself hearing nothing. The most likely hypothesis I've read is that the RFI thrown out by the stock supply adversely affects some downstream devices badly, and that this is fixed by a linear. I can personally testify that changing to a linear supply made a massive difference to the usability of a nearby radio!! So if the rest of your gear is more or less immune to the RF nasties, changing the PS would have no effect. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31758 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: To DAC or not to DAC
OK guys, can I respectfully suggest that we let this one drop? The last two pages of posts have created only heat, no light. IMO. Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26548 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New WIKI - Connecting SB3/Transporter directly to an Amplifier w/o Preamp
Mark nice work... I think the only point I'd want to debate is your assumption that we don't need to cover the Transporter as their owners are unlikely to be beginners: not beginners in audio, almost certainly, but could easily be complete novices in slimserver or computer based audio. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31796 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New WIKI - Connecting SB3/Transporter directly to an Amplifier w/o Preamp
Well the first page is the BeginnersGuide and it is meant to be just the headlines with shortcuts to the pages with more info. The BeginnersGuideOverview goes into more detail and is intended to be readable in its own right. I did start to draft a paragraph to go in the Overview page but quickly formed the view that actually we need a page along the lines of BeginnersGuideToConnections, or similar, which could cover - what the analog and digital outputs are for and some of the advantages of each (this comes up quite a lot in the Forums) - connecting into a integrated audio amplifier - connecting directly to a power amplifier (xref to poweramp page) - connecting into an AV receiver (xref to AVReceivers page) - connecting to a DAC Then I'd have a short paragraph in the BeginnersGuideOverview page along the lines of you need to conenct the outputs of your Squeezebox to the inputs of your audio amplifier in just the same way that you now would connect a CD player. There are several advanced options, however, which are discussed here. (link to new page) Anyone feeling bold? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31796 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Clicking before tracks and other teething problems
Sounds to me like the issue is associated with the transcoding that necessarily has to happen for an SB to play AAC files. I seem to recall several people having problems with this on Linux systems. This is made worse by the fact that you seem to have a system you can't fix yourself, which means that you are going to have to get your QNAP supplier to help you [personally I wouldn't go near such a situation with a bargepole but each to his own...]. Sadly your best workaround in the short term is probably to try ripping some CDs to FLAC, which should solve the problem. Incidentally, by default sending WAVs to the SB won't stop transcoding taking place as FLAC is a preferred format over WAV: you'd need to untick the WAV-FLAC box in file formats. HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31621 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB to Power Amp ... Preamp or Attenuator or DontEvenTry?
giga;171117 Wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. So if I understand correctly volume control on the SB3 is digital only, meaning there is a fixed analog gain applied to a modulated digital source (out of the DAC) and for that reason any gain lower than 100% will result in quantization errors... right? Not quite. See this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28133 amongst others Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31698 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A Cut-Rate Audio philes Experience With a Linear Power Supply
I don't think there is much doubt about the stock PSU's ability to spray RFI about - it makes my Tivoli One radio, which I had hoped to use with an SB2, completely unusable as a radio (whether there is an SB2 plugged into it or not). I now need to think about whether its worth while finding a cheap linear supply which (hopefully) won't have the same effect... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31758 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Headphone amp for Transporter XLR connector ?
magnanimous;170925 Wrote: I think the problem would be that you cannot attenuate the XLR output, so you get no volume control even if you could connect the phones direct to the transporter. Not quite. AFAIK the volume control works on all outputs including the balanced - what you miss is the option to add fixed attenuation (10, 20 or 30dB). So it would be ok as long as the output level from the TP doesn't completely max out the amps input or otherwise be so high that you end up running the TP well below max output. Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30774 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Digital or Analog output?
I have a Denon 2805. In Direct or pure Direct mode, it really is Analog all the way through (does NOT do A-D-A conversion), although it does go digital in Stereo mode. Personally I found it sounded significantly better using analog out from the SB (I was using an SB2), even using not-terribly-expensive cable, ie I preferred the SB's DAC to the Denon. YMMV. YMMV Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31497 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Digital or Analog output?
Mark Lanctot;169067 Wrote: Ceejay: I'm curious how you know this. I'm not at all suggesting you're wrong, but I'd like to know how to determine this myself. If you look at all the manufacturer literature, they'd have you believe every one of them with a bypass mode is pure analog bypass. Yet the volume control always works in this mode, but most of these volume controls are encoders rather than potentiometers. I'm not fully versed in electronics but I don't know how an encoder could be used in a fully-analog circuit for volume control. Well, know is a strong word... I've not examined the circuits. But I did search the internet extensively and found some statements that seemed to be credible which stated this. Interestingly in relation to your earlier post about 2.1 vs 2.0 ... there was an additional claim that in analog mode the processor actually switches to an analog method for filtering and driving the subwoofer, so you could get 2.1. There is of course a lingering doubt in my mind, which is perhaps one reason why I've ditched the Denon 2805 as an amplifier for my Transporter and gone for entirely separate 2ch/5.1ch setups!! The only thing I can assert confidently is the entirely subjective judgement that my SB2 sounded better driving the Denon in analog mode, which I think was the original question!!! As for the volume control, its surely not hard to construct an analog electronic volume control which is driven by a digital control source (I'm fairly sure I remember designing such a thing myself in the very distant past!)(remember that its only the actual signal path that has to be analog) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31497 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB sounding too bright
stone;83083 Wrote: Heres what i did: My SB came with a ferrite core (Euro 230V type power) at on the power cable (at the SB end). I connected another one; no detectible improvement to the brightness and high frequency ringing. Then I attached two ferrites to the cable close to the power subbply itself. Now the SB is playing music! Can not believe the change. The setup still has a tendency toward details in the highs, but now it is musical. What happened? Not shure but the power cord may have been acting as an rf antenna, or the power started behaving when the ferrites appeared. Any suggestions? Enjoy, I stumbled across this thread while looking for something quite different, and connected it in my mind with a completely separate problem I asked about elsewhere - how to stop the SB (more probably the power supply) from making the FM section of a nearby Tivoli One completely unusable. So having read this I found a spare ferrite core and added it to the SB power supply cable, at the PSU end. Its made a big difference - still not exactly usable, but enough to convince me that this is the way for me to go, and to reinforce comments made here and elsewhere that the stock switching PSU may be well rejected by the internal linear power supplies in the SB but its playing havoc with other kit... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20155 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Start Server via Transporter/Squeezbox using magic packet
Plenty of threads on this, try this one for example... http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23400highlight=Wake+LAN%2A HTH Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31201 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Better sound quality from flac's than CD's?
There is more than one possible difference. Yes, the bits could be different - though it isn't hugely likely and if the bits are bad you're more likely to hear pops or crackles than a subtle loss of sound quality, IMHO. If you're comparing the SB with a CD player, both feeding the same DAC, the topic to read up on is jitter - lots of discussion on that here. It could well be that the CD player is injecting more jitter into the bit stream to the DAC, and if the DAC isn't good at rejecting it (some are better than others, it seems) you will hear a quality difference. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31203 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: FLAC signal levels
slimkid;165411 Wrote: What various replaygains do is dynamycally equalize those tracks to what is considered (by the programmer) reasonable dynamic range. So it would silence pieces of the the first mevement and enhance some pieces on the second one, just like you would do taking the wolume down when it feels too loud and then back up again when you can't hear it. I think you are being a bit harsh on all replaygain techniques here. First, adding a replaygain tag to a file doesn't lose any information at all, you can choose whether to apply it or not at play time. Second, they don't twiddle the volume at all within a track (which would be most annoying) or (I'm not sure whether you think this or not) apply any compression. And if you apply albumgain then the same volume adjustment will be made equally to all tracks/movements, so there is no question of overriding Mr Karajan or his colleagues. I'm not saying, BTW, that all gain adjustment techniques are without any of these problems - merely that it is quite possible to get volume normalisation without messing with the music... YMMV Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30898 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problem with Slim Server
lafayette;165439 Wrote: But, alas, I looked you up. If there is a flame war, you're in it. You have a clear history of attacking strangers, throwing out ad hominem and very personal insults, and otherwise being a punk with few social skills. You curse, too, openly and rudely, and that says a great deal about your character (along with your ignorance and arrogance, of course). How does it feel to get it back in your face? Of course, you are probably too stubborn to notice. How you demonstrated your lack of knowledge on this thread, though, tickles me. Pot, meet Kettle Any chance of a debate about sound stages, or any similar topic, without all this stuff? Thanks Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Problem with Slim Server
lafayette;164745 Wrote: I thought this was cute -- private mail from Radish Mods in this forum don't wear badges. You're new here, it's a nice friendly place but don't take that to mean it's OK to talk back to other members. If someone tells you your post is inappropriate, take note. Is such high-handed posturing and threatening -- when there seem to be so many unmoderated flame wars on this forum -- even, well, whatever. It's just silly. Lafayette, Check out the number of posts from Radish, and compare with the number of posts from yourself. You're new here, and we're trying to be understanding while you get the hang of this new place. As it happens, I think that the Slim Forums are one of the best behaved places on the internet (although the audiophile section where we are now is perhaps a bit wild sometimes). Radish was, quite correctly, pointing out that your query would more appropriately have been posted in another forum. Please don't get the hump at this. In the meantime, chill, enjoy your new toy, and have a merry Christmas. Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;162587 Wrote: So I've been hoodwinked by popular media? Still, at least at least it shouldn't adversely affect anything. I'm just about to go and have a listen at more normal volume levels now that the family isn't in bed. No, you've not been hoodwinked. Just be clear about the difference between bi-amping (two separate amps driving) and bi-wiring. Bi-wiring gets you certain benefits precisely because our conductors are not perfect. Whether they make an audible difference is up to you. The cost is usually moderate. Bi-amping gets you those benefits plus some more besides, at higher cost. You pays your money.. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC
crooner;162284 Wrote: Right now I am getting fantastic sound out of my SB3+DAC combo. But given the quality of the rest of my equipment, would it be worthwile to upgrade to a transporter? If so, I would have little need to keep the Lite Audio DAC. I have no idea whether a TP would sound better, and I suspect no-one else will know either. However I will offer a friendly warning that you may be entering the dark world of never-ending upgrade-itis ... if your current setup sounds fantastic to you, why change it? You're scratching an itch you haven't got, which always seems like a bad idea to me... YMMV Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30530 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: WMA lossless vs EAC
Some sensible proposals from the lawmakers in the UK, at least... The law will also be amended so that consumers can legitimately transfer music for their own use, for example from a CD they have bought to an MP3 player. http://business.guardian.co.uk/prebudgetreport2006/story/0,,1966201,00.html Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30325 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Analog volume using Transporter
jmourik;160036 Wrote: The typical advice around here for the SB2/3 is to max out the SB volume and use the integrated amp for volume control. My guess is the same goes for the transporter... jan True, but with the qualification that you should listen out for distortion being introduced by overloading the amplifier inputs, the SB and TP can sometimes overdo it for more sensitive amps. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30344 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How do I stop my Transporter from trying to connect to Slimserver when PC is off?
Post a bug on bugzilla? If you want something changed, that's the place to put it... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30299 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 256 kBits vs. Flac
Two contradictory ideas from me: 1 - listen for yourself! As Diana says, complex music rather than heavy rock is most likely to show up the difference. If you can't hear a difference, there isn't one. 2 - If you can't hear a difference (or not enough of one to justify re-ripping all your CDs) then consider that this might be because your current setup is masking the subtleties (this is a polite way of saying not good enough!). And if, some time in the future, you find yourself with better kit that really does show the difference then you will kick yourself. One compromise strategy is to resolve to rip all new purchases in some lossless format (it doesn't matter which, you can always transcode later) and come back to your legacy music later if you need to. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30263 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;158351 Wrote: (some of which are, again, over our budget, but hey... I can always say 'no'. Right?). Have fun. But keep a tight hold on your credit card: going into an expensive toyshop can be bad for your wealth! Ever been to a timeshare presentation? ;) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
I think this thread may have just broken the record for longest thread without any disagreement on this forum... ;) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
totoro;157653 Wrote: Splitting some threads/subthreads off into a garbage can or fight club wouldn't be unreasonable. Funny, I thought that's what this entire forum is for? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Equipment advice please
You should certainly be able to get something good for that - eg £600-£800 for speakers, £300 for an amp and £100 for connects. Its fair to say that you could spend more and get something that sounds better, but that depends on how much money you've got and how important it is to you! Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29732 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Active Speakers for Conservatory
Definitely no gravel floors here... http://www.conservatoryinfo.co.uk/ Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29665 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: IR problems on Transporter
Now what would be really impressive would be to mount a mirror on one or both of the scalectrix cars and then, as they go round the track, choose your moment to zap the remote... Although, all this discussion of mirrors has got me worried - wouldn't the bits come out the wrong way round? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29656 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: .ape file format
Yes - this format is transcoded server-side to a format the Transporter can handle directly (such as FLAC). If you want to try it out with your files, download the slimserver software and also install the softsqueeze software emulator that comes with it. You'll be able to test out how it works (though not of course feel the heat of the transporter's electronics!) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29677 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Really wierd squeezebox problem
What happens if both the SBs are in the same room and powered from the same socket? Is it perhaps the case that the two rooms are on different power circuits (possibly even different phases?) and that the two circuits have a large ground offset? Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29625 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
