Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps - the last time!!!
Last update to the scores is now on Soaring spot All classes scored finally. http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ Just my own personal thanks to people who helped the scoring along the way, Heath for his upload page and server, Nick for the original website setup, Tim for scoring scripts and ongoing fault resolution, Ailsa and Matt for helping sort out the final chaos the last couple of days. (We were always going to be in trouble when a super computer takes 70 min to score one flight). ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps - the last time!!!
Thanks and congratulations for a job well done, Scott. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Scott Lennon Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2014 10:28 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps - the last time!!! Last update to the scores is now on Soaring spot All classes scored finally. http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ Just my own personal thanks to people who helped the scoring along the way, Heath for his upload page and server, Nick for the original website setup, Tim for scoring scripts and ongoing fault resolution, Ailsa and Matt for helping sort out the final chaos the last couple of days. (We were always going to be in trouble when a super computer takes 70 min to score one flight). ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps
Well its run and done. We had the wind up dinner Saturday night and presented the trophies and bottles of wine. The event was superbly administered and the weather was challenging and rewarding with some big tasks (maybe just a little tooo big Ailsa) and interesting changing gear weather. One minute your belting along at 12000ft and 120kts then your struggling to get home in 0.5kt and best L/D. The winners were Club Class Nathan Johnson 15m and Standard Matt Gage 18m ClassDavid Peitsch Open Class Paul Mander Fastest speed of the comp 131.1kph by Dave Peitsch Fastest Std Class 130.3kph by Tom Claffey Unfortunately the scoring system crashed out in a big way leading to std/15m records being destroyed in the crash and and many flights having to be evaluated manually (we suspect we have found a flaw in the scoring by setting a very cunning task.) Anyway please bear with us while we reconstruct the contest from the start and get the scores up on the website, except Club Class which worked perfectly(must be the pilots). I will post again when they are done. Scott Lennon___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Thanks to the wonderful skills of Mr Shirley, the scores on soaring spot now reflect the state comp rules for lay days. Note that the score allocated for laydays is continually updated depending on the scores for future days. But day to day the results will be correctly averaged and penalties applied for laydays. Another interesting day today with lower height bands and blue skies. Day 2 I was leaving at 12,000ft and today I left some at 3,500ft. From: Derek Ruddock Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:50 AM To: sco...@internode.on.net ; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps What’s wrong with the scoring Scott? In the day by day totals for the 15 metre class, http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/day-by-day.html , Matt Gage and Tom Claffey top the results, despite neither having flown on day 1 according to http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/daily/day1.html . It appears that both have been given 1000 points over and above what they scored on day 2. John Orton should be first according to the stats from day 1 day 2. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of sco...@internode.on.net Sent: Monday, 15 December 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps For those interested NSW State comps are off and running. Big tasks set today! 777km http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Brilliant to see open class sized tasks set. Without digging into the traces it seems the 18m gliders were left a little wanting compared to genuine 60:1 open class performance. Congrats Panda. Nice flight!! Oh to see more big wings at comps with water in trail. Launching first and landing last. Pushing the limit of what can be achieved in a days soaring. The glory days? Sent from my iPhone On 17 Dec 2014, at 22:30, Scott Lennon sco...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks to the wonderful skills of Mr Shirley, the scores on soaring spot now reflect the state comp rules for lay days. Note that the score allocated for laydays is continually updated depending on the scores for future days. But day to day the results will be correctly averaged and penalties applied for laydays. Another interesting day today with lower height bands and blue skies. Day 2 I was leaving at 12,000ft and today I left some at 3,500ft. From: Derek Ruddock Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:50 AM To: sco...@internode.on.net ; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps What’s wrong with the scoring Scott? In the day by day totals for the 15 metre class, http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/day-by-day.html , Matt Gage and Tom Claffey top the results, despite neither having flown on day 1 according to http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/daily/day1.html . It appears that both have been given 1000 points over and above what they scored on day 2. John Orton should be first according to the stats from day 1 day 2. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of sco...@internode.on.net Sent: Monday, 15 December 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps For those interested NSW State comps are off and running. Big tasks set today! 777km http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Congratulations Paul on making it around, in great speed. Awesome to see a real task being set for Open Class. A fair day result I say, just wish we saw more of this in Nationals. Great to finally see a task biased towards the true Open Class glider! Glory days! On 18 Dec 2014, at 7:15, James Dutschke james.m.dutsc...@gmail.com wrote: Brilliant to see open class sized tasks set. Without digging into the traces it seems the 18m gliders were left a little wanting compared to genuine 60:1 open class performance. Congrats Panda. Nice flight!! Oh to see more big wings at comps with water in trail. Launching first and landing last. Pushing the limit of what can be achieved in a days soaring. The glory days? Sent from my iPhone On 17 Dec 2014, at 22:30, Scott Lennon sco...@internode.on.net wrote: Thanks to the wonderful skills of Mr Shirley, the scores on soaring spot now reflect the state comp rules for lay days. Note that the score allocated for laydays is continually updated depending on the scores for future days. But day to day the results will be correctly averaged and penalties applied for laydays. Another interesting day today with lower height bands and blue skies. Day 2 I was leaving at 12,000ft and today I left some at 3,500ft. From: Derek Ruddock Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:50 AM To: sco...@internode.on.net ; 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps What’s wrong with the scoring Scott? In the day by day totals for the 15 metre class, http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/day-by-day.html , Matt Gage and Tom Claffey top the results, despite neither having flown on day 1 according to http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/daily/day1.html . It appears that both have been given 1000 points over and above what they scored on day 2. John Orton should be first according to the stats from day 1 day 2. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of sco...@internode.on.net Sent: Monday, 15 December 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps For those interested NSW State comps are off and running. Big tasks set today! 777km http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
What’s wrong with the scoring Scott? In the day by day totals for the 15 metre class, http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/day-by-day.html , Matt Gage and Tom Claffey top the results, despite neither having flown on day 1 according to http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/daily/day1.html . It appears that both have been given 1000 points over and above what they scored on day 2. John Orton should be first according to the stats from day 1 day 2. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of sco...@internode.on.net Sent: Monday, 15 December 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps For those interested NSW State comps are off and running. Big tasks set today! 777km http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Derek, Both of us had pre-declared lay days for day 1 due to our gliders being used at joeyglide. This gives an average score for the days we fly for that day. What looks to be wrong is that average is meant to be reduced by 5% I believe, which hasn't happened Matt On 16 Dec 2014, at 10:50, Derek Ruddock drudd...@iinet.net.au wrote: What’s wrong with the scoring Scott? In the day by day totals for the 15 metre class, http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/day-by-day.html , Matt Gage and Tom Claffey top the results, despite neither having flown on day 1 according to http://www.soaringspot.com/nsw2014/results/15-meter/daily/day1.html . It appears that both have been given 1000 points over and above what they scored on day 2. John Orton should be first according to the stats from day 1 day 2. From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of sco...@internode.on.net Sent: Monday, 15 December 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps For those interested NSW State comps are off and running. Big tasks set today! 777km http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
Last reminder about the early bird discount. Cheap price ends on Wednesday the 12th. http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ There is a link off the GFA calendar showing it also. Of course we will take further entries at the full price but we like to know most of the numbers early to organise the infrastructure for you. Scott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps - Temora 13th-20th Dec 2014
Yes, bit of an oversight, copied off previous form when there was no 2 seat class . If we suddenly have an influx of 2 seat entries then I we will run it as a separate class. At this stage you would be 1st or 2nd. From: Derek Ruddock Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 8:19 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps - Temora 13th-20th Dec 2014 The entry form does not have a 2-seater class. Is this an oversight? From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Scott Lennon Sent: Friday, 31 October 2014 6:28 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps - Temora 13th-20th Dec 2014 A reminder to those that have put off filling out the entry form and those who have only just decided that they have to be there. It is just two weeks till the early bird entry fee expires on 12th Nov. Get your entry form off the website:- http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ Send it in and don’t forget to pay into the bank account listed on the entry sheet. For those who have already entered, check the entries page to confirm if you have paid before the 12th Nov. If it is not marked then we have not got your money See you there Scott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps - Temora 13th-20th Dec 2014
A reminder to those that have put off filling out the entry form and those who have only just decided that they have to be there. It is just two weeks till the early bird entry fee expires on 12th Nov. Get your entry form off the website:- http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ Send it in and don’t forget to pay into the bank account listed on the entry sheet. For those who have already entered, check the entries page to confirm if you have paid before the 12th Nov. If it is not marked then we have not got your money See you there Scott___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps - Temora 13th-20th Dec 2014
The entry form does not have a 2-seater class. Is this an oversight? From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Scott Lennon Sent: Friday, 31 October 2014 6:28 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps - Temora 13th-20th Dec 2014 A reminder to those that have put off filling out the entry form and those who have only just decided that they have to be there. It is just two weeks till the early bird entry fee expires on 12th Nov. Get your entry form off the website:- http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ Send it in and don’t forget to pay into the bank account listed on the entry sheet. For those who have already entered, check the entries page to confirm if you have paid before the 12th Nov. If it is not marked then we have not got your money See you there Scott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
Hi Paul and others It's up again now at 5.05pm Thursday Wombat On 23/10/2014 4:42 PM, Paul Mander wrote: Hello Scott. I can’t access this site through either Chrome or Internet Explorer. Any suggestions? *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Scott Lennon *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 October 2014 9:50 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Yes Derek it is at http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ There is a link off the GFA calendar showing it also. I am not IT literate enough to make google find it from any reasonable search so please everyone spread the web address where you think it needs to go. Remember early bird discount available only for payments received before 12 Nov. Scott *From:* Derek Ruddock mailto:drudd...@iinet.net.au *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Is there a web site containing detail of the comp? The aero club site has not been updated in 2 years… ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
The link works ok for me via firefox. Kevin From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Grietje Wansink Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2014 4:49 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora firefox or safari won't load site either. Grietje On 23/10/2014 4:42 pm, Paul Mander wrote: Hello Scott. I can't access this site through either Chrome or Internet Explorer. Any suggestions? From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Scott Lennon Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2014 9:50 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Yes Derek it is at http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ There is a link off the GFA calendar showing it also. I am not IT literate enough to make google find it from any reasonable search so please everyone spread the web address where you think it needs to go. Remember early bird discount available only for payments received before 12 Nov. Scott From: Derek Ruddock mailto:drudd...@iinet.net.au Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Is there a web site containing detail of the comp? The aero club site has not been updated in 2 years. _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
Hello Scott. I can’t access this site through either Chrome or Internet Explorer. Any suggestions? From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Scott Lennon Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2014 9:50 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Yes Derek it is at http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ There is a link off the GFA calendar showing it also. I am not IT literate enough to make google find it from any reasonable search so please everyone spread the web address where you think it needs to go. Remember early bird discount available only for payments received before 12 Nov. Scott From: Derek Ruddock mailto:drudd...@iinet.net.au Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Is there a web site containing detail of the comp? The aero club site has not been updated in 2 years… _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
firefox or safari won't load site either. Grietje On 23/10/2014 4:42 pm, Paul Mander wrote: Hello Scott. I can't access this site through either Chrome or Internet Explorer. Any suggestions? *From:*aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Scott Lennon *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 October 2014 9:50 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Yes Derek it is at http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ There is a link off the GFA calendar showing it also. I am not IT literate enough to make google find it from any reasonable search so please everyone spread the web address where you think it needs to go. Remember early bird discount available only for payments received before 12 Nov. Scott *From:*Derek Ruddock mailto:drudd...@iinet.net.au *Sent:*Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:31 AM *To:*Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Subject:*[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Is there a web site containing detail of the comp? The aero club site has not been updated in 2 years... ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
Hi Paul Looks like a server problem with the nswgliding.org site - Dave Boulter, are you reading this? Wombat On 23/10/2014 4:42 PM, Paul Mander wrote: Hello Scott. I can’t access this site through either Chrome or Internet Explorer. Any suggestions? *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Scott Lennon *Sent:* Tuesday, 21 October 2014 9:50 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Yes Derek it is at http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ There is a link off the GFA calendar showing it also. I am not IT literate enough to make google find it from any reasonable search so please everyone spread the web address where you think it needs to go. Remember early bird discount available only for payments received before 12 Nov. Scott *From:* Derek Ruddock mailto:drudd...@iinet.net.au *Sent:* Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:31 AM *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Subject:* [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Is there a web site containing detail of the comp? The aero club site has not been updated in 2 years… ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net mailto:Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
Is there a web site containing detail of the comp? The aero club site has not been updated in 2 years. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora
Yes Derek it is at http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ There is a link off the GFA calendar showing it also. I am not IT literate enough to make google find it from any reasonable search so please everyone spread the web address where you think it needs to go. Remember early bird discount available only for payments received before 12 Nov. Scott From: Derek Ruddock Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:31 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Temora Is there a web site containing detail of the comp? The aero club site has not been updated in 2 years… ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State comps - Temora
Its one month to run on the early bird discount to enter the NSW State Gliding Championships at Temora. We have been enjoying some good early season weather the last few weeks. My last topped out at 11,000 (yes on oxy) and the thermals were regularly pushing the 7 knot average. So if you what to practise in the area, contact the club and we will sort out the tug. Not many official entry forms in yet, but lots who have said they are coming. So why not just do it now so us poor organisers can start the plans rolling. Not many places have the website advertised so if you know somewhere, spread the word. http://statecomps14.nswgliding.org.au/ Scott SL Composites Mob 0438 773 717 Hangar 02 6978 1559___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Narromine December 1 to December 8 2012
Pilots thinking about attending the NSW State Comps at Narromine are reminded that your entry needs to be completed within October if you are take advantage of the early bird discount to the entry fee. Pilots who have registered on the comps web site still need to complete a hard copy entry form and mail this together with their entry fee before the end of October to get the discount. Entry fees are refundable if for some reason you cant make it to Narromine. I am sure that any pilot that has flown at Narromine late November/ early December will confirm that given a fair go with the weather you can experience some of the best flying to be had anywhere in Australia. Consider spending a few days at the Narromine Cup Week to get your hand in then continue on to fly the Comps the following week. You will find the Comps web site at www.nswgc2012.com.au Colin Turner Comp Director ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Launching for day 5 has just finished. We have been able to get a bit of meat into the tasks today having been grounded on Tuesday and slightly under tasked yesterday Club class went up first on a 3.5 hr AAT to Keera, Edgeroi and Split Rock. Std/15 M have gone to Bingara, Gurley Silo Split Rock Dam on a Racing task of 355 kms. Open/18 M likewise on a Racing task to Warialda, Gurley Silo and Split Rock Dam for 389 kms Results at www.soaringspot.com/nsw2011/results Regards Ian Downes Manager LKSC___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Not old Dennis Stacey, back in the saddle! Go Dennis! D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
The re-scheduled 2010 Comps kickd off at Lake Keepit yesterday with class winners being - 18 metre Tom Claffey Open Steve Hedley !5 Metre Dennis Stacey Club Richard Frawley Full details at www.soaringspot.com/nsw2011/results/ Regards Ian Downes Manager LKSC ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
No Fly day yesterday. Today the same!? http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDG00074.shtml___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Flying today at keepit (MON) all in air OK and only a few relights - 2.5hrs club and 2hrs the rest but seems a bit better than forcast Ian McPhee On 29 November 2010 08:33, Mal Bruce m...@mals.net wrote: No Fly day yesterday. Today the same!? http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDG00074.shtml ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Have just finished launching the fleet on task. Detailed report follows Ian Downes (C.D.) Manager LKSC - Original Message - From: Mal Bruce To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps No Fly day yesterday. Today the same!? http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDG00074.shtml -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
And a reminder that the NSW State Comps are starting on Dec 13 at Temora. Website http://www.flytemora.org.au/ or contact me off list. Tom Tom Jane Gilbert T J Sailplane Services Australian Agents for DG, LS and AMS-Flight___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Not working Tom. Glenn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Website is now up at www.flytemora.org.au Tom Gilbert __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: 10/15/2008 8:02 PM __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Works fine for me From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn McLean Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not working Tom. Glenn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 8:44 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Website is now up at www.flytemora.org.au Tom Gilbert __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com _ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com _ Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: 10/15/2008 8:02 PM __ NOD32 3557 (20081026) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.3/1788 - Release Date: 14/11/2008 1:36 PM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Just a reminder to those who are intending to enter the NSW State Comp at Temora (Dec 13 - 20) the late entry fee applies as of Saturday. Website with entry form at http://www.flytemora.org.au/ Tom Tom Jane Gilbert T J Sailplane Services Australian Agents for DG, LS and AMS-Flight___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Website is now up at www.flytemora.org.au Tom Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
The NSW State Comps will be held at Temora, December 13 to 20 inclusive. Details will appear in the SA magazine and on the GFA website. For those of you who can't wait that long, contact Geoff King on 02 69774424 or email Tom Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Accommodation details can be found at http://www.temora.nsw.gov.au/about/1004.html Tom Gilbert ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
I haven't seen the ASG 29, but I had heard that the wing design was similar to that of the Sulphur Crested Cockatoo, and thats why it performs well in countries like australia... perhaps you could elabourate on that for us Simon ? regards JR - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps exactly my point Nick. I struggle to see the how the point was missed-misinterrepret by others. luke I think Luke was responding to Bernard's second post which is congratulatory of the aircraft, not the pilots. From what I read, Luke was making the point that the 3 pilots in question would have placed regardless of their choice of modern 18m glider. Nick. On Nov 21, 2007 3:16 PM, Geoff Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
In the interests of free speech, I do not believe that this group should have a moderator. However, I think it would be appropriate for those with a vested interest in a particular product to make that interest clear when posting on this list (and when writing articles in Soaring Australia) especially when they are praising or promoting the products they sell. I have no objection to this list being used to advertise (that is free speech, as well), but I would like to know that it IS an advertisement. In the case of Soaring Australia, I also believe that blatantly promotional articles should be paid for just like any other advertisement. While many of us know who is who in the zoo, there will be those who don't. Perhaps, if these people choose not to declare their interest, another member of the list could out them :) I don't think anyone doubts that the ASG29 is a good thing. It was only suggested that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other equipment. Cheers Tim (written by Tim Shirley for the LS1D owners association of australia. Vote 1 LS1D) Geoff Kidd wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - *From:* Luke Dodd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - *From:* nandrews mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today’s open class ships can stay
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Win on Sunday Sell on Monday - where have heard that before? SDF _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 7:26 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps In the interests of free speech, I do not believe that this group should have a moderator. However, I think it would be appropriate for those with a vested interest in a particular product to make that interest clear when posting on this list (and when writing articles in Soaring Australia) especially when they are praising or promoting the products they sell. I have no objection to this list being used to advertise (that is free speech, as well), but I would like to know that it IS an advertisement. In the case of Soaring Australia, I also believe that blatantly promotional articles should be paid for just like any other advertisement. While many of us know who is who in the zoo, there will be those who don't. Perhaps, if these people choose not to declare their interest, another member of the list could out them :) I don't think anyone doubts that the ASG29 is a good thing. It was only suggested that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other equipment. Cheers Tim (written by Tim Shirley for the LS1D owners association of australia. Vote 1 LS1D) Geoff Kidd wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Hi Chris The first order is still in the queue but I really don't know for sure why Butch purchased a second ASG 29. All I can tell you is that the first ASG 29 is due for delivery in June 2008 and the second one in late 2008. Kind regards Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Kiehn Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 3:28 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps But don’t take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) Did his first order not get fulfilled? Chris ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Further Lukes comments which I understood the same as Nick did, there are quite a few hopeful new gliders flying in various comps and have done well but are largely let down by not having top ranking pilots fly them. The LS10 did extremely well at the pre worlds which by the way was won by a Ventus, had Michael somer been flying the 10 it may well have won. The NSW comps reflected this, 3 of the top pilots in Oz but had John Buchanan not stuffed his final glide on one of the days landing 13km's short the results could well have been different. John also won the club class nationals - in a Ventus. I don't think it really matters if Holden or Ford win, if the Ford proves to be better then the Holden will get a better handicap - should even things up, that's what they are there for. Pretty disgusting results overall for 18 metre gliders, so called high tech advances which just puts them out of reach of common man but really they haven't progressed that much better than the first 18 metre gliders that rolled out in the mid 90's - when are we going to see meaningful leaps in LD that would just make you want to rush out and buy a new one? Taking pills now Cheers Nigel _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Dodd Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 5:27 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps exactly my point Nick. I struggle to see the how the point was missed-misinterrepret by others. luke I think Luke was responding to Bernard's second post which is congratulatory of the aircraft, not the pilots. From what I read, Luke was making the point that the 3 pilots in question would have placed regardless of their choice of modern 18m glider. Nick. On Nov 21, 2007 3:16 PM, Geoff Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Tim I agree that advertorials should certainly be identified as such. I also accept that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other equipment is possibly correct and reasonable. But for the representative of a competing brand to say that those same 3 placegetters would have flown a brick to 1st place is ridiculous and partisan. And similarly for someone else to state that the only reason the ASG29's won was that the rest of the field were blaniks is denigrating to the place getters, the ASG29 and the other competitors. I can understand why some of the Ventus owners are getting a but towy, though. Regards Geoff (Schleicher customer but not an ASG29, unfortunately) - Original Message - From: Tim Shirley To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps In the interests of free speech, I do not believe that this group should have a moderator. However, I think it would be appropriate for those with a vested interest in a particular product to make that interest clear when posting on this list (and when writing articles in Soaring Australia) especially when they are praising or promoting the products they sell. I have no objection to this list being used to advertise (that is free speech, as well), but I would like to know that it IS an advertisement. In the case of Soaring Australia, I also believe that blatantly promotional articles should be paid for just like any other advertisement. While many of us know who is who in the zoo, there will be those who don't. Perhaps, if these people choose not to declare their interest, another member of the list could out them :) I don't think anyone doubts that the ASG29 is a good thing. It was only suggested that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other equipment. Cheers Tim (written by Tim Shirley for the LS1D owners association of australia. Vote 1 LS1D) Geoff Kidd wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Careful Tim. If you start outing the gliding community, it could well end in tears. Imagine what could happen if the PW5 fetishists went to the Human Rights Commission? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 5:56 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps In the interests of free speech, I do not believe that this group should have a moderator. However, I think it would be appropriate for those with a vested interest in a particular product to make that interest clear when posting on this list (and when writing articles in Soaring Australia) especially when they are praising or promoting the products they sell. I have no objection to this list being used to advertise (that is free speech, as well), but I would like to know that it IS an advertisement. In the case of Soaring Australia, I also believe that blatantly promotional articles should be paid for just like any other advertisement. While many of us know who is who in the zoo, there will be those who don't. Perhaps, if these people choose not to declare their interest, another member of the list could out them :) I don't think anyone doubts that the ASG29 is a good thing. It was only suggested that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other equipment. Cheers Tim (written by Tim Shirley for the LS1D owners association of australia. Vote 1 LS1D) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Well said Tim With the email list it is much easier to see any replies, however when it comes to Soaring Australia you are trusting what you read. A few times I have stopped half way through an article to see who wrote it, just because it doesnt quite read right. It must be very frustrating for those who have paid for a back cover spread to read what is basically free advertising within the pages (especially when it is written as a review). At the very least, and association with a particular manufacturer should be mentioned at the end of the article. Cheers Tom W - Original Message - From: Tim Shirley To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps In the interests of free speech, I do not believe that this group should have a moderator. However, I think it would be appropriate for those with a vested interest in a particular product to make that interest clear when posting on this list (and when writing articles in Soaring Australia) especially when they are praising or promoting the products they sell. I have no objection to this list being used to advertise (that is free speech, as well), but I would like to know that it IS an advertisement. In the case of Soaring Australia, I also believe that blatantly promotional articles should be paid for just like any other advertisement. While many of us know who is who in the zoo, there will be those who don't. Perhaps, if these people choose not to declare their interest, another member of the list could out them :) I don't think anyone doubts that the ASG29 is a good thing. It was only suggested that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other equipment. Cheers Tim (written by Tim Shirley for the LS1D owners association of australia. Vote 1 LS1D) Geoff Kidd wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days
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On 21/11/2007, Adam Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha, I was waiting or this reply! I knew the speeds and what glider did it at the time, just didn't want to admit that it was a G29! And thought a 'good bite' would be worth it :). Oh please, whom do you think you are fooling. V2cx's and LS1-f's RULE!! :) There seems to be plenty of empirical evidence to suggest otherwise. Paul WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:50:42 +1030 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
I guess the question to ask then is why did the top pilots choose the ASG 29 rather then other brand. Or bought bricks, would have been cheaper . Paul On 21/11/2007, Luke Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Ok, I think we are all capable of putting our foot in it as well as saying things that sometimes we regret. Can we focus on the positive aspects of the sport please? On 21/11/2007, at 9:32 PM, Paul Bart wrote: On 21/11/2007, Adam Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haha, I was waiting or this reply! I knew the speeds and what glider did it at the time, just didn't want to admit that it was a G29! And thought a 'good bite' would be worth it :). Oh please, whom do you think you are fooling. V2cx's and LS1-f's RULE!! :) There seems to be plenty of empirical evidence to suggest otherwise. Paul WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:50:42 +1030 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps+airspace+cloudflying
Macca, Current Nationals Rules (which in this area are consistent with World Comps) specify an outlanding at the point of the offence for the first airspace violation, zero for the day on the second offence, and disqualification from the event for the third. Both the Queensland and NSW rules appear to be based on earlier incarnations of Nationals Rules if what you say is correct. An outlanding before the start is effectively zero for the day of course. Cheers Tim Ian McPhee wrote: Do not be too hard on aircraft handicaps just because a pilot does well in a particular aircraft. We buggered up because we turned at 13km on the only day they had a 10km circle and that the first turn point!!!. We went on to do 400km in 4 hours for just 70 points. Our fault for sure. On another strange one Queensland comps have zero points if you go into airspace before the start whereas in NSW you only loose 100 points Also we observed one person doing serious cloud flying (like 2 mins in cloud in 7kts up and then coming out the side) - The flarm showed they were there. This happened on several days and on one day this person would have gained and extra 15km over others. I have zero idea who it was but i am afraid it should be looked into as we have the technology. Like flying overweight is is just another form of cheating. I do know Brad Edwards has never flown a comps since another aircraft was allowed to fly over weight and was given no penality. He called it another form of cheating. Ian McPhee - Original Message - *From:* nandrews mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today’s open class ships can stay with it and it doesn’t seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don’t take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *simon holding *Sent:* Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM
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Hello Luke I feel that you are not only unfair to me but also to the three pilots involved. Before I acknowledged the pilots (and promptly congratulated them on this newsgroup) I submitted congratulatory e-mails directly to them. Therefore, any sarcastic comments (such as the one in the first line of your posting) are totally out of place!!! Your second line is an insult to other competing top pilots. Butch, for example, competed in the same comp but placed fourth with a gap of around 10% to the winner and approx. 6% to third place. Sorry, you posting was so outrageous that I could not help myself but put the record straight. Definitely no bad feelings though! Kind regards Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Dodd Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? :-) Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring
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Bernard , I was simply stirring the pot and encouraging a healthy discussion. I certainly was not intending to insult the pilots concerned, I know each one presonnally. It was a actually back handed compliment, can we still use that term in australia today? regards luke - Original Message - From: Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:16 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hello Luke I feel that you are not only unfair to me but also to the three pilots involved. Before I acknowledged the pilots (and promptly congratulated them on this newsgroup) I submitted congratulatory e-mails directly to them. Therefore, any sarcastic comments (such as the one in the first line of your posting) are totally out of place!!! Your second line is an insult to other competing top pilots. Butch, for example, competed in the same comp but placed fourth with a gap of around 10% to the winner and approx. 6% to third place. Sorry, you posting was so outrageous that I could not help myself but put the record straight. Definitely no bad feelings though! Kind regards Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Dodd Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you
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Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? :-) Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldw ide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F10 04813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? :-) Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide% 2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2F ai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring
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Haha, I was waiting or this reply! I knew the speeds and what glider did it at the time, just didn't want to admit that it was a G29! And thought a 'good bite' would be worth it :). I agree with Nigel, if it is 'that much better', even with the spar bumps - then I would be okay with a 1-2% handicap been put on the G29... Hope your having a good season all, sounds like there has been some tremendous weather around in the past 2weeks - lets hope it rains every Mon-Thursday mornings, then booms every weekend for us glider pilots! V2cx's and LS1-f's RULE!! :) WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:50:42 +1030Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn’t want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam WoolleySent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PMTo: aus soaringSubject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! _ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners
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Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL
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But donât take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) Did his first order not get fulfilled? Chris ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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I think Luke was responding to Bernard's second post which is congratulatory of the aircraft, not the pilots. From what I read, Luke was making the point that the 3 pilots in question would have placed regardless of their choice of modern 18m glider. Nick. On Nov 21, 2007 3:16 PM, Geoff Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - *From:* Luke Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - *From:* nandrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *simon holding *Sent:* Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. *Sent:* Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide
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Uh-oh. They've stopped taking the pills again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 3:10 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I think Luke was responding to Bernard's second post which is congratulatory of the aircraft, not the pilots. From what I read, Luke was making the point that the 3 pilots in question would have placed regardless of their choice of modern 18m glider. Nick. On Nov 21, 2007 3:16 PM, Geoff Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of issues relating to mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com http://www.rf-developments.com/ Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? :-) Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank
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Hi Adam I would have expected you to come up with a much better excuse for misleading the members of this newsgroup! You can't fool us!!! You passed on gossip without checking - not good enough for a professional pilot. With all due respect, Adam, this is not the first time you have spread some serious bull.. on this newsgroup. It is not doing your credibility any good, mate!!! Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 12:41 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Haha, I was waiting or this reply! I knew the speeds and what glider did it at the time, just didn't want to admit that it was a G29! And thought a 'good bite' would be worth it :). I agree with Nigel, if it is 'that much better', even with the spar bumps - then I would be okay with a 1-2% handicap been put on the G29... Hope your having a good season all, sounds like there has been some tremendous weather around in the past 2weeks - lets hope it rains every Mon-Thursday mornings, then booms every weekend for us glider pilots! V2cx's and LS1-f's RULE!! :) WPP _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:50:42 +1030 Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http://secure-au.imrworldwide.com/cg i-bin/a/ci_450304/et_2/cg_801459/pi_1004813/ai_859641_t=762955845_r=ti g_OCT07_m=EXT _ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldw ide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F10 04813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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exactly my point Nick. I struggle to see the how the point was missed-misinterrepret by others. luke I think Luke was responding to Bernard's second post which is congratulatory of the aircraft, not the pilots. From what I read, Luke was making the point that the 3 pilots in question would have placed regardless of their choice of modern 18m glider. Nick. On Nov 21, 2007 3:16 PM, Geoff Kidd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know . or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? - Original Message - From: Luke Dodd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place Luke Dodd - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class ships can stay with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia
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Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldw ide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F10 04813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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So Bernard, what would you put it down to? :-) Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldw ide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F10 04813%2Fai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
If I was Bernard I would put it down to the fact that there were in fact only 3 gliders flying in the contest, or all the others were blaniks, ( not that there is anything wrong with blaniks ) regards to all ( including Bernard) JR - Original Message - From: simon holding To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
It was 162 kph off the stick (155kph handicapped speed) over 383km, by Mak Ichikawa in an ASG29 18m glider. Dave - Original Message - From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps It was 160 kph and might have been Hank or Mac Nig To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring -- Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
It was 160 kph and might have been Hank or Mac Nig To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. It's simple! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide% 2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2F ai%5F859641_t=762955845_r=tig_OCT07_m=EXT ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Scores
Are here - http://www.joeyglide.com/ContestLIVE/NSWStateComps/tabid/241/Default.aspx If anyone has any problems looking at them, please let me know directly (and let me know what browser browser version you are running). Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Don, Gliding is a top secret sport the last thing we would want to do is promote it to its existing members let alone release the information to the public. HTH Mal Has anyone seen any results from Lake Keepit? Dw. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
The had practice day on Sunday. There are plenty of flies to eat. The new Duo X has won a day or two. Macca has won. Forgot who the other winners were. They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
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[Aus-soaring] NSW state comps
I understand that David Jansen won the NSW state comps flying the ASG 29 factory demonstrator. Could anyone please pass on a link so I can check the results? Thanks!!! Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps
Were they on? Try http://www.nswgc2006.com.au/ But don't worry about checking the results as they have not been entered onto the website since Nov 27. - Original Message - From: Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 11:37 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps I understand that David Jansen won the NSW state comps flying the ASG 29 factory demonstrator. Could anyone please pass on a link so I can check the results? Thanks!!! Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps
NSW State comp results as I have been told: Open: Lars 18M: David Jansen Club: Matthew Gage Standard: Tom Gilbert Only three competition days due to poor conditions. AnneE Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott PO Box 189 Narromine NSW 2821 Tel: 02 6889 1229 Mob: 0438062652/0417062652 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.ourafricansafari.com.au _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 4 December 2006 11:38 AM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW state comps I understand that David Jansen won the NSW state comps flying the ASG 29 factory demonstrator. Could anyone please pass on a link so I can check the results? Thanks!!! Bernard Eckey Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/566 - Release Date: 3/12/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.6/566 - Release Date: 3/12/2006 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps ~ all classes, same task, same start time?
Mike, While the speed may be beaten, we all know the only valid comparison is when all classes of gliders do the same task on the same day, with the same start time, etc... Obviously AAT are different as gliders can choose their turn point and follow the weather better, and at times the time on task is also relevant. Anyway, Temora was fun, and FFX was even better. Alan Wilson Ph 02 62316404 or Mobile 0416 231641 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 4:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring inAustralia. Subject: RE: RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps At 04:45 PM 24/02/05 +1000, you wrote: Lets see how it goes at the Dalby comps this Easter, most of the nationals pilots will be there and its a dry comp, as well as some new gliders that havn't competed yet like the two new Boonah 304 WASPS. I think the current Nationals standard class champ is going, Oh , he was flying an LS8 WHEN HE WON THE NATIONALS Cheers Nigel And according to an anonymous source the 15 m ships were beating the 18m by 10% or so in speed most days. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Yes, Nick you were too subtle for me. Sorry for getting the impression that you were trying to have a go at me. With kind regards Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 4:10 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Maybe I was too subtle. There were 5 titles at Temora : Std -15m/Std -18m -Open/18m -Club. Nick. - Original Message - From: B C Eckey To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Nick I guess there is no title for coming last but that doesnt alter the fact that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. And while I have your attention let me add that in some cases the margins were quite considerable. The new ASW 28-18E, for example, finished almost 10% ahead, despite of the fact that it was flown by a relatively unexperienced competition pilot who flew the aircraft for the very first time. To put these results into context, the new ASW 28-18E is an unflapped glider but it still beat a fleet of predominantly flapped gliders including a number of Ventus 2cx. No wonder people are already queuing for the ASG 29. For further information visit: http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/englisch/e_main.htm Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 1:54 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps 3 out of 4 Titles?? Are you forgetting Club Class where schleicher gliders came last second last? Nick. - Original Message - From: B C Eckey To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all It has only just come to my attention that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. 18m Class ASW 28-18E (Malcom Bruce) 15m Class ASW 27 (Graham Parker) Open Class ASH 25 (Paul Mander) with Malcom Bruce in ASW 28-18E in second place. On top of that, Graham Parker was awarded the trophy for the fastest flight of the competition. I believe he did a speed of 145kph on one day. Congratulations to all of you. With kind regards Bernard Christel Eckey 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph. +61 8 8449 2871 Fax +61 8 8242 3698 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gliders.net.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
At 04:45 PM 24/02/05 +1000, you wrote: Lets see how it goes at the Dalby comps this Easter, most of the nationals pilots will be there and its a dry comp, as well as some new gliders that havn't competed yet like the two new Boonah 304 WASPS. I think the current Nationals standard class champ is going, Oh , he was flying an LS8 WHEN HE WON THE NATIONALS Cheers Nigel And according to an anonymous source the 15 m ships were beating the 18m by 10% or so in speed most days. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Hi all It has only just come to my attention that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. 18m Class ASW 28-18E (Malcom Bruce) 15m Class ASW 27 (Graham Parker) Open Class ASH 25 (Paul Mander) with Malcom Bruce in ASW 28-18E in second place. On top of that, Graham Parker was awarded the trophy for the fastest flight of the competition. I believe he did a speed of 145kph on one day. Congratulations to all of you. With kind regards Bernard Christel Eckey 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph. +61 8 8449 2871 Fax +61 8 8242 3698 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gliders.net.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Hi Nick I guess there is no title for coming last but that doesnt alter the fact that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. And while I have your attention let me add that in some cases the margins were quite considerable. The new ASW 28-18E, for example, finished almost 10% ahead, despite of the fact that it was flown by a relatively unexperienced competition pilot who flew the aircraft for the very first time. To put these results into context, the new ASW 28-18E is an unflapped glider but it still beat a fleet of predominantly flapped gliders including a number of Ventus 2cx. No wonder people are already queuing for the ASG 29. For further information visit: http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/englisch/e_main.htm Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gilbert Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 1:54 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps 3 out of 4 Titles?? Are you forgetting Club Class where schleicher gliders came last second last? Nick. - Original Message - From: B C Eckey To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all It has only just come to my attention that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. 18m Class ASW 28-18E (Malcom Bruce) 15m Class ASW 27 (Graham Parker) Open Class ASH 25 (Paul Mander) with Malcom Bruce in ASW 28-18E in second place. On top of that, Graham Parker was awarded the trophy for the fastest flight of the competition. I believe he did a speed of 145kph on one day. Congratulations to all of you. With kind regards Bernard Christel Eckey 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph. +61 8 8449 2871 Fax +61 8 8242 3698 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gliders.net.au ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Maybe I was too subtle. There were 5 titles at Temora : Std -15m/Std -18m -Open/18m -Club. Nick. - Original Message - From: B C Eckey To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Nick I guess there is no title for coming last but that doesnt alter the fact that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. And while I have your attention let me add that in some cases the margins were quite considerable. The new ASW 28-18E, for example, finished almost 10% ahead, despite of the fact that it was flown by a relatively unexperienced competition pilot who flew the aircraft for the very first time. To put these results into context, the new ASW 28-18E is an unflapped glider but it still beat a fleet of predominantly flapped gliders including a number of Ventus 2cx. No wonder people are already queuing for the ASG 29. For further information visit: http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/englisch/e_main.htm Bernard -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick GilbertSent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 1:54 PMTo: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps 3 out of 4 Titles?? Are you forgetting Club Class where schleicher gliders came last second last? Nick. - Original Message - From: B C Eckey To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all It has only just come to my attention that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. 18m Class ASW 28-18E (Malcom Bruce) 15m Class ASW 27 (Graham Parker) Open Class ASH 25 (Paul Mander) with Malcom Bruce in ASW 28-18E in second place. On top of that, Graham Parker was awarded the trophy for the fastest flight of the competition. I believe he did a speed of 145kph on one day. Congratulations to all of you. With kind regards Bernard Christel Eckey 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph. +61 8 8449 2871 Fax +61 8 8242 3698 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gliders.net.au ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Title: Message Lets see how it goes at the Dalby comps this Easter, most of the nationals pilots will be there and its a dry comp, as well as some new gliders that havn't competed yet like the two new Boonah 304 WASPS. I think the current Nationals standard class champ is going, Oh , he was flying an LS8 WHEN HE WON THE NATIONALS Cheers Nigel Hi Nick I guess there is no title for coming last but that doesnt alter the fact that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. And while I have your attention let me add that in some cases the margins were quite considerable. The new ASW 28-18E, for example, finished almost 10% ahead, despite of the fact that it was flown by a relatively unexperienced competition pilot who flew the aircraft for the very first time. To put these results into context, the new ASW 28-18E is an unflapped glider but it still beat a fleet of predominantly flapped gliders including a number of Ventus 2cx. No wonder people are already queuing for the ASG 29. For further information visit: http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/englisch/e_main.htm Bernard -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick GilbertSent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 1:54 PMTo: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps 3 out of 4 Titles?? Are you forgetting Club Class where schleicher gliders came last second last? Nick. - Original Message - From: B C Eckey To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all It has only just come to my attention that Schleicher pilots won three out of four titles at the recent NSW State comps at Temora. 18m Class ASW 28-18E (Malcom Bruce) 15m Class ASW 27 (Graham Parker) Open Class ASH 25 (Paul Mander) with Malcom Bruce in ASW 28-18E in second place. On top of that, Graham Parker was awarded the trophy for the fastest flight of the competition. I believe he did a speed of 145kph on one day. Congratulations to all of you. With kind regards Bernard Christel Eckey 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph. +61 8 8449 2871 Fax +61 8 8242 3698 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gliders.net.au ___Aus-soaring mailing listAus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netTo check or change subscription details, visit:http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Nigel, No problems. Regards Bob - Original Message - From: Harry Medlicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Derek, I got it wrong. Entries are listed on our comp web page - link from GFA NSW club page, Harry - Original Message - From: Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Harry is there a published list of entries? I couldn't find one on the web site last time I looked. Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/10/03 21:50:31 Attention All, Confirmed entries for the NSW State Comps at Lake Keepit now stand at over 30. If you are contemplating attending and have not entered please let us know. We are not chasing your money, but there is a lot of planning involved particularly, - How many tugs do we organise? We will be doing our very best to make the comps run smoothly and knowing firm numbers is a great help. Please contact us if you might be coming and have not completed your entry yet, Thanks, Harry Medlicott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
RE: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Harry, the QLD state comps site had the entrants listed, no one complained, and it was useful, others could see who was going and it may have contributed to some coming out of the wood work just to see old friends. Cheers Nigel P.S It looks like the Qld boys will probably take all the trophies anyway with about 10 or more attending so I hope you roaches have plenty of beer! Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **DISCLAIMER The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Medlicott Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:19 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Derek, We have not published a list of confirmed entries. Most comps do not do it as there is very often a pretty poor showing until the last moment. We have +20 in multi class and +10 in club class. This will be the first time we have had a state club class for some time. If you personally want to know entrants names, then I could ask permission but would be reluctant to put it on a public document unless individual pilots ok'd it. It might be seen as an invasion of their privacy, Regards, Harry - Original Message - From: Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Harry is there a published list of entries? I couldn't find one on the web site last time I looked. Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/10/03 21:50:31 Attention All, Confirmed entries for the NSW State Comps at Lake Keepit now stand at over 30. If you are contemplating attending and have not entered please let us know. We are not chasing your money, but there is a lot of planning involved particularly, - How many tugs do we organise? We will be doing our very best to make the comps run smoothly and knowing firm numbers is a great help. Please contact us if you might be coming and have not completed your entry yet, Thanks, Harry Medlicott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Derek, I got it wrong. Entries are listed on our comp web page - link from GFA NSW club page, Harry - Original Message - From: Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Harry is there a published list of entries? I couldn't find one on the web site last time I looked. Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/10/03 21:50:31 Attention All, Confirmed entries for the NSW State Comps at Lake Keepit now stand at over 30. If you are contemplating attending and have not entered please let us know. We are not chasing your money, but there is a lot of planning involved particularly, - How many tugs do we organise? We will be doing our very best to make the comps run smoothly and knowing firm numbers is a great help. Please contact us if you might be coming and have not completed your entry yet, Thanks, Harry Medlicott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Derek, We have not published a list of confirmed entries. Most comps do not do it as there is very often a pretty poor showing until the last moment. We have +20 in multi class and +10 in club class. This will be the first time we have had a state club class for some time. If you personally want to know entrants names, then I could ask permission but would be reluctant to put it on a public document unless individual pilots ok'd it. It might be seen as an invasion of their privacy, Regards, Harry - Original Message - From: Derek Ruddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Harry is there a published list of entries? I couldn't find one on the web site last time I looked. Derek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28/10/03 21:50:31 Attention All, Confirmed entries for the NSW State Comps at Lake Keepit now stand at over 30. If you are contemplating attending and have not entered please let us know. We are not chasing your money, but there is a lot of planning involved particularly, - How many tugs do we organise? We will be doing our very best to make the comps run smoothly and knowing firm numbers is a great help. Please contact us if you might be coming and have not completed your entry yet, Thanks, Harry Medlicott ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
Nigel, Our web page has entries listed, but they are a bit behind. We would be glad if you take a few prizes home. It would only make up for all the ones NSW pilots have carried back from Q'land over the years! With on-field catering thanks to Wendy and a band of helpers plus a cool room with plenty of capacity we are looking forward to a fantastic week. Conditions down here have been quite good lately with some days going to 11000 ft. As this is usually a dry time of year there is an excellent chance of it continuing. Storms are usually not common until well into December, Best Wishes to Michelle, Harry ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
[aus-soaring] NSW State Comps at Lake Keepit
IMPORTANT NOTICE Entry fees for these comps, to be held at Lake Keepit between 15th and 22nd November have been set at $205 with an early bird $20 discount if paid early( in mail before end of this week). In an effort to keep costs to pilots as low as possible we have been negotiating with the NSWGA to be credited with a sport and recreation grant which will be used to reduce entry fees. We don't know by how much yet but hope it will be quite significant. This note is to notify anyone who has paid the original entry fee that they will have a refund of the difference. Plans for the competition are well in hand and we are expecting a large entry. We are planning on having an unballasted sports class using the handicaps which have worked well in National Sports Class. Due to the Sports Class Nationals being in S.A. we are expectingthis class to be well attended. Multi Class will include Standard, 15 metre, 18 metre and Open. Multi class will be ballasted up to the maximum approved but handicapping will not apply. Classes will be amalgamated to make up numbers when required e.g. If there are insufficient 15m. gliders to make a class, then standard class would fly both standard and 15m. class to create a15m. class. We will be having different start points and first direction for sports and multi classas a safety feature. Asweather man for the comps I am predicting and almost guaranteeing excellent weather - not too difficult as November is usally one of our best months. Summer storms do not usually start until mid December and we often get cloud bases of up to 10,000 feet. Day length is only slightly shorter than the summer maximum and we are allowing pilots to declare a lay day on the day if conditions look good for a personal best or record flight. Due to Telstra problems our web page is temporarily down but further details and entry forms can be obtained from our President, Steve Hedley at[EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking forward to seeing you soon, Harry Medlicott
Re: [aus-soaring] NSW State Comps at Lake Keepit
Title: Re: [aus-soaring] NSW State Comps at Lake Keepit Due to Telstra problems our web page is temporarily down but further details and entry forms can be obtained from our President, Steve Hedley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I can tell you how to fix that :) http://www.internode.on.net :) Cheers, Simon
[aus-soaring] NSW state comps
If any of you know anyone who wishes to hire an LS8a or Cirrus for the NSW state comps to be held in Narromine 1 to 8 December; or Narromine Cup Week, the previous week, please contact us [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith Dixon and Anne ElliottPO Box 189 NarromineNSW 2821Phone/fax: 02 6889 1229
