Re: blackbox 0.70.1; bbkeys 0.9.0 - bbkeys crashes with invalid pointer
On Thursday 17 August 2006 10:29, D. E. Evans wrote:
::brainstorm:: So if I download the source and compile using gcc3.4
:: (say)
would that work?
Yes. There's also an rpm distributed via sf.net/projects/bbkeys.
Does anyone else know if the bbkeys source at sf.net has been
patched for use with gcc 4?
I can say with certainty that it has not been. =;)
If there are patches for doing this, I'd be more than willing to include them
into the source proper and do another bbkeys release.
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Re: Epistrophy for blackbox?
On Thursday 17 August 2006 16:34, Andy Jones wrote:
I'm having trouble with bbkeys.
Maybe you can clarify what trouble you're having?
[clip of my quoted website. =;)]
Now, I've looked for a seperate epistrophy package. I've even
(::shudder::) dowloaded Openbox. But I can't see a way to get Epist
working in Blackbox.
Um. I'm not sure if epist was ever upgraded to work completely with the EWMH
spec. IIRC, epist/openbox2 used a non-EWMH spec similar to what
blackbox/bbkeys used to use before the EWMH was finished. And (also IIRC),
openbox3 got rid of epist as a standalone keygrabber and it's not combined it
with the window manager proper.
HTH! =:)
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Re: Text shadows
Wow. That looks really nice! =:)
On Tuesday 11 April 2006 16:10, Johannes Winkelmann wrote:
Hi,
A while ago [1] Brad showed a function to draw text shadows, and since I
kinda wanted that feature yesterday, I wrote a patch to make use of this
function in Blackbox. The result is the following:
http://jw.tks6.net/files/bb-text-shadow.png
http://jw.tks6.net/files/bb-text-shadow2.png
The patch can be found at
http://jw.tks6.net/files/crux/ports/blackbox/bb-0.70.1-text-shadow.diff
The header of the patch also describes the additional style attributes
used for the shadows.
Being not too familiar with the codebase I'm not sure whether this is
solved as originally intended, but I'm more than happy to hear what
could be improved.
Feedback appreciated :-)
Best regards, Johannes
References:
1 http://asgardsrealm.net/lurker/message/20050205.225119.7bd12d32.en.html
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Re: bbpager vs blackbox 0.70.x
On Nov 8, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:12:24 -0600 Patrick Bogen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I experience the same delay with bbkeys- I can only assume it's some
sort of initialization?
Sort of. I believe it's due to the need bbkeys has for checking that a
EWMH compliant window manager is running. Remember that bbkeys has to
actually be started before Blackbox, due to the way startx works.
There is
no way to accurately predict how long will the window manager take to
start, so you can't really use the sleep trick reliably. And if bbkeys
tries to do its stuff without a window manager, it would crash and
burn. I
think it actually did, in some earlier CVS version. So the delay is
time
that bbkeys takes to determine that Blackbox is up and ready for
action.
I'm not sure if the mechanism could be improved, but I suspect that
if it
was possible, vanRijn would have done it.
No expert, me, just my 2¢ and MHO.
Actually, bbkeys is much more graceful about this than it used to
be. It will try 20 times to connect to an EWMH-compliant window
manager, sleeping 5 seconds in between tries. So, you can feel free
to start him wherever you want in the initialization process and as
long as a window manager starts within 1 minute and 40 seconds, you
should be good to go. =:)
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Re: Building on Solaris with Sun's C++ compiler
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 18:05, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 07:54:22PM +0200, Carlos Vidal wrote:
i'm sorry, i forgot to include the new error message, that was the old
one. ;)
i moved that all out of the class (to right after it) and how it gets
me this error:
Window.hh, line 353: Error: state is not a member of const
BlackboxWindow::_client. Window.hh, line 358: Error: state is not a
member of const BlackboxWindow::_client. Window.hh, line 369: Error:
state is not a member of const BlackboxWindow::_client. Window.hh,
line 411: Error: ClientState is not defined.
4 Error(s) detected.
You have to put the ClientState declaration before it is used, that
is, right BEFORE class BlackboxWindow! :-)
I enclose the modified Windows.hh (it compiles with gcc 4.0).
that did the trick, thanks!!
have you all been paying attention for patching the sources? or should i
provide a diff?
now to beat bbkeys 0.9.0 into submission. ./configure is looking for
gnome-config which was replaced with pkg-config some time back, so of
course i don't have it. ;)
*blink* What??
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Re: Solution: popping up Blackbox menu via keyboard
On Sunday 10 July 2005 13:07, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
I've posted a verbose description here:
http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/BlackboxFAQ/UsageAndFeatures
The solution works well and doesn't require any special support in
neither bbkeys nor Blackbox. It will most likely work with 0.65 too.
Thanks to Thomas Tretzmüller for finding xnee.
I've managed to reduce the macros produced by xnee to only 6 lines, which
are easy to adapt to any specific environment (hopefully). If anybody gets
into trouble, please report it here.
Hi Ciprian,
First, thanks for maintaining the FAQ!!! =:) Second, I've been toying with
the idea of adding this kind of functionality to bbkeys. I'm not sure if it
fits, or how useful it would be, or if it would make sense. I'm thinking...
[mouseClickRight] (Mod1-Control-Shift-j) {+0+400}
[mouseClickLeft] (Mod1-Control-Shift-l) {+0+400}
[mouseClickMiddle] (Mod1-Control-Shift-k) {+0+400}
Where +0+400 would be the x, y coordinates to fire the fake mouse event at.
This is really a less-than-optimal solution to the problem, as your FAQ
clearly explains, since the question it's answering is no longer how can I
make the blackbox menu pop up with keybindings and is now how can I fake a
mouse click event on a spot on my screen that I have to figure out and
remember to keep clear so that it goes through to the root
screen/background/desktop.
I'm curious as to what people think though.
Any thoughts/comments, anyone?
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call for help in maintaining bbconf
Hello, all. I think I've asked this here before, but just in case I've not
(or perhaps we have no subscribers who might now be interested in helping),
I'd like to ask for help.
I'm the author and maintainer of the bbconf program
(http://bbconf.sourceforge.net/), which exists solely to help blackbox users
configure blackbox. It's written in C++ and uses Qt, and it's pretty clean
code. Also, thanks to Ben Jansen's help, it uses plugins so that it's very
easy to extend it to add support/configuration for bbpager, bbmail,
bbtoiletpaper, etc.
I've not had time in quite a while to update bbconf to work with the new
configuration file layout for bbkeys and to support the new features/changes
in the latest release of blackbox. Therefore, the tool is not so useful,
since it doesn't support the latest versions of software it is written to
support.
I would very much like to see bbconf updated to work with the latest releases
of bbkeys and blackbox, but I very much doubt I'll have tons of time anywhere
near soon to do it myself. Unfortunately, if bbconf isn't updated soon, it
will be dropped (if it hasn't been already) from distributions (I've already
been contacted by the debian bbconf packager).
If anyone is interested in helping out with this, please reply to me and/or
the list. There is not all that much that needs to be done, honestly, and
most of the changes are pretty trivial.
Just think, you could be the superhero of countless (okay, well, maybe
hundreds) of blackbox users!!
Thanks.
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Re: bbkeys bbconf
On Saturday 09 July 2005 17:31, Bernhard Fischer wrote:
Hi,
Attached is a small patchlet to make commands containing '}' work as
expected (see the convoluted example in the .txt file).
Tested, continued lines still work fine.
Please apply.
Thank you,
Bernhard
Hm.
bbkeys-1.0.0cvs-fix-command.diff.txt:
[Execute] (Control-Mod1-r) {PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne \033]0;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007' /usr/bin/rxvt -fn
-*-terminus-medium-r-*-*-*-160-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* -rv -sr -st -sl 16384 -cr
red -pr red -ip -tint lightblue -ls -C -e sux -}
That's just weird. Why do you include this stuff in your command line?
Normally this is set in one's ~/.bashrc or .Xdefaults, etc. That
notwithstanding, thanks very much for the patch!! =:) If it had only solved
your weird command, I'd have been hesitant, but it also makes this method
more efficient as a side effect (most of the time, this will only go through
one iteration), so I just committed it. =;)
Thanks Bernhard!! =:)
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Re: bbkeys bbconf
On Monday 11 July 2005 12:23, Bernhard Fischer wrote:
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 11:22:09AM -0400, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
On Saturday 09 July 2005 17:31, Bernhard Fischer wrote:
Hi,
Attached is a small patchlet to make commands containing '}' work as
expected (see the convoluted example in the .txt file).
Tested, continued lines still work fine.
Please apply.
Thank you,
Bernhard
Hm.
bbkeys-1.0.0cvs-fix-command.diff.txt:
[Execute] (Control-Mod1-r) {PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne \033]0;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ${PWD}\007' /usr/bin/rxvt -fn
-*-terminus-medium-r-*-*-*-160-*-*-*-*-iso10646-* -rv -sr -st -sl 16384
-cr red -pr red -ip -tint lightblue -ls -C -e sux -}
That's just weird. Why do you include this stuff in your command line?
Normally this is set in one's ~/.bashrc or .Xdefaults, etc. That
I think that if i would set the PROMPT_COMMAND globally -- i.e. in
.bashrc or in .Xdefaults -- all invocations would inherit it. But i only
want to set this specific prompt for certain invocations of a command.
Apart from that i may want to set any other env-var for a specific
command _only_.
Gotcha. That's what I figured. =;)
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Re: new features in bbkeys, CVS
On Monday 06 June 2005 02:03, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
But to answer your question, there's nothing new on it. Nyz was
discussing adding a special blackbox-only Atom for this but he's not, I
don't believe, and honestly I'm not sure he should, since that would be
just that--a blackbox-only communication that no other window manager
would understand.
Adding something to get bbkeys to open the menu shouldn't be hard. The
hard part will be in getting bbkeys to transfer the keyboard grab to
blackbox. I haven't dug into this, so it could turn out to be easy, but
I'm not the optimist I used to be :)
Well, the approach taken by xmacro would work, I'm pretty sure--using the
XTest extension to move the mouse to a given point and fire a ButtonPress and
ButtonRelease. In fact, if I have this in /tmp/button3.test:
MotionNotify: 12 12
ButtonPress: 3
ButtonRelease: 3
and run xmacroplay :0 /tmp/button3.test, the menu does get opened and focus
is transferred to it, so up/down/left/right keypresses works as one would
expect. The only thing is that this requires the user to know at exactly
what coordinates to move the mouse pointer to before triggering a
ButtonPress/ButtonRelease. In other words, it's not a showRootMenu function
this way. It's a pressMouseButton3 function, being passed a geometry. And
if a window is in the way, the root window won't open. =:(
The more I think about it, though, the more I think this is the only way to do
it, as inelegant as it is, because WM's like Kwin and Metacity don't actually
know anything about a root window the way blackbox and its children do. I
just don't like this approach at all because it's very non-intuitive, can
easily lead to errors (hey, how come my Mozilla window keeps closing when I
try to open my blackbox menu at the top right corner of the screen??), and
requires the user to dedicate a spot on their screen for this action to
always take place and then remember to not cover that area up with a window.
=:(
I would much rather be able to use straight XSendEvent calls to simulate this
but that seems to not work properly.
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new features in bbkeys, CVS
re, all. I would like to ask for some help in testing the bbkeys code that's
in CVS HEAD. I plan on releasing version 1.0.0 of bbkeys in a week's time,
and would really like to make sure that it's a solid as it can be. New
features to date are as follows
Please help and please report back to the list with any problems you might see
or anything else that needs fixing before 1.0.0. I'm also very open to
hearing suggestions, etc.
Thanks!! =:)
- including modified patch from Ciprian. This gives us sendToPrevWorkspace
and sendToNextWorkspace functionality.
[vanRijn]
- new configuration option for followWindowOnSend--this allows bbkeys to
change workspaces to the window that it just sent a window to, if the user
desires...
[vanRijn]
- including patch from Martijn Ras (sf.net tracker 1097889) fixing
underquoted
definitions in configure.ac (Thanks!!!)
[vanRijn]
- fixing annoying behavior that we had when we were cycling through windows
on
all workspaces. previously, we would change workspaces while cycling,
which
irritated me enough to stop it
[vanRijn]
- adding new configuration option that allows the user to tell us to include
iconified
windows in our window cycling list. if includeIconifiedWindowsInCycle is
set to
true in the user's bbkeysrc (it's defaulted to true in code and sample
bbkeysrc),
iconified windows will show in the cycling list, surrounded with ().
this will
fix sf.net tracker #877698 (yay!).
[vanRijn]
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Re: new features in bbkeys, CVS
On Sunday 05 June 2005 07:28, Jens Körner wrote:
Just compiled it on Debian 3.1
In Makefile.cvs I had to change automake and aclocal to the versions I
run: 1.9
After that everything went fine with building the .deb
Didn't do no further testing yet but I'm going to...
Cool, thanks!! =:)
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Re: new features in bbkeys, CVS
On Sunday 05 June 2005 05:51, Keith Maika wrote:
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
[snip]
I just updated from CVS and have tried it a bit (only like 10 minutes or
so) but it seems to be working just fine. I'll let you know if I have
any further problems. I finally figured out how to bind actions to the
windows key, which is nice :)
Ahh, yes. =:)
BTW, Any idea if/when bbkeys will be able to show the root menu. I know
it's been brought up before, and if I remember right the thing was that
blackbox didn't have the fuctionality for it. Just wondering if there's
been anything new, or if it's still the same.
Yes, the problem is that neither the ICCCM nor the EWMH specifications for
window-manager/client communications provide a standard way for this behavior
to happen. KDE provides this behavior, but it's via DCOP call (dcop kicker
kicker popupKMenu 0).
I would LOVE to put this behavior into bbkeys, but this would likely take the
form of faking mouse button-press/release events between bbkeys and the root
window, instead of using the standard Atom-based communications that are used
for everything else. I would absolutely accept patches for review for this,
if anyone is able to work on it.
But to answer your question, there's nothing new on it. Nyz was discussing
adding a special blackbox-only Atom for this but he's not, I don't believe,
and honestly I'm not sure he should, since that would be just that--a
blackbox-only communication that no other window manager would understand.
Thanks for the reply!! =:)
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Re: new features in bbkeys, CVS
On Sunday 05 June 2005 12:32, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 03:51:43 -0600 Keith Maika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, Any idea if/when bbkeys will be able to show the root menu. I know
it's been brought up before, and if I remember right the thing was that
blackbox didn't have the fuctionality for it. Just wondering if there's
been anything new, or if it's still the same.
You may remember I tried to work out a solution a little while back using
the xmacro utility. It didn't work perfectly, but Thomas Tretzmller
reported success with xnee instead of xmacro. I haven't had time to test
his solution, I'll get back to the list when I do. In short, it's about
using a command line tool triggered from bbkeys to emulate the mouse
activity necessary to popup the Blackbox menu.
I'd like to skip the middle layer here and just use whatever code xnee does to
generate XEvents from within bbkeys. I'll see if I can find time to hack
around on this soon. If anyone else is interested, please feel free to
submit a patch. =:) This is the direction I'm looking in, though.
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Re: new features in bbkeys, CVS
On Sunday 05 June 2005 10:17, Dave Serls wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:28:33 +0200
Jens Körner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just compiled it on Debian 3.1
In Makefile.cvs I had to change automake and aclocal to the versions I
run: 1.9
Tried with 1.9 on Mandrake 10.1 and receive
./configure: line 6463: syntax error near unexpected token `LIBBT,'
./configure: line 6463: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(LIBBT, libbt)'
The auto*tools are finicky, to say the least, and change things that I have
neither the time nor desire to understand. This is why I've hard-coded the
versions of the tools that I know to work in Makefile.cvs.
You should either install these versions via urpmi (for Mandrake), or help me
by submitting a patch. =:)
Also, make sure you have the pkgconfig rpm installed, since bbkeys relies on
the standard pkgconfig mechanism for finding out what dependencies it needs
from blackbox's libbt.pc.
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Re: new features in bbkeys, CVS
On Sunday 05 June 2005 13:54, Dave Serls wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:28:44 -0400
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 05 June 2005 10:17, Dave Serls wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:28:33 +0200
Jens Körner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just compiled it on Debian 3.1
In Makefile.cvs I had to change automake and aclocal to the versions
I run: 1.9
Tried with 1.9 on Mandrake 10.1 and receive
./configure: line 6463: syntax error near unexpected token `LIBBT,'
./configure: line 6463: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(LIBBT, libbt)'
The auto*tools are finicky, to say the least, and change things that I
have neither the time nor desire to understand. This is why I've
hard-coded the versions of the tools that I know to work in Makefile.cvs.
You should either install these versions via urpmi (for Mandrake), or
help me by submitting a patch. =:)
Also, make sure you have the pkgconfig rpm installed, since bbkeys relies
on the standard pkgconfig mechanism for finding out what dependencies it
needs from blackbox's libbt.pc.
OK. Which automake 1.7 (1.7, 1.7.1,,,1.7.9) ??
I have automake1.7-1.7.9-2mdk installed which does the trick for me on
mdk10.2.
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Re: bbkeys bbconf
Um, yeah, you're right, I've not had a chance to update bbconf to work with
the latest versions of blackbox or bbkeys yet. =:( Anyone want to help
maintain bbconf?? I would gladly accept patches and help!!
On Friday 03 June 2005 15:22, Andy Jones wrote:
Blackbox 0.7, bbkeys 0.9, bbconf 1.1, Mandrake 9.1
Can anyone tell me if this version of bbconf is okay with this version
of bbkeys? I seem to be having problems:
Andy.
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Re: windows without decorations
On Friday 20 May 2005 16:47, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
On Fri, 20 May 2005 14:09:44 +0200 James Dominy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How, using Xlib only, do I specify to blackbox that I don't want a
particular window decorated. This is for the purposes of popping up a
tooltip window. I've chacked through the EMWH spec but I don't see
anything that quite matches what I want. Should I be using the
_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE hint? Is this a protocol specification? Something
else? I've been hitting my head against a wall here for quite some
time... I know, personal failure I never ask for help. I should have a
sign around my neck saying confront me if I don't ask for help.
Try looking at the source of bbkeys, see what it does when it processes
the toggleDecorations command. Blackbox has to deal with every known kind
of window so I expect it's harder to find the answer in _its_ code.
It's actually not defined in the EWMH spec, but in the older ICCCM spec.
_MOTIF_WM_HINTS, iirc.
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Re: Posting helper apps
On Tuesday 17 May 2005 05:32, James Dominy wrote:
Hi,
First of all thanks for all your help whilst writing my program, which I
have now completed. It is a small taskbar like application (very basic)
that sits in the slit (below gkrellm). It shows a list of clickable
buttons of all windows managed by blackbox that are visible on the
current workspace, or iconified. Is there a repository for blackbox
helper apps like this somewhere, where I could post the code? It's very
messy at the moment, so I want to clean it up a bit, set up
autoconf/make etc..., and add one or two more features, but ultimately I
would like to share this. Personally I find it extremely useful.
screenshots? =:)
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Fwd: bbkeys 0.8.6 - 0.9.0 config file conversion script
My apologies for not sending this sooner, but in case anyone is interested,
Hannes has written a conversion script for the change in bbkeys's
config/keybindings file format. Buyer beware, I have not tried this utility
(nor even looked through it fully, to be honest), so if it fries your cat and
gives you a green tongue, it's not my fault. =:) That being said, I think
that such a tool is definitely useful and I'm sure Hannes would appreciate
any feedback should there be any.
Thanks Hannes!! =:)
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Date: Sunday 10 April 2005 08:00
From: Hannes Reich
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Hi Jason,
first off, thanks for writing and maintaining bbkeys! Blackbox has
been my wm of choice for many's the year now, and bbkeys is a big part
of why I've stuck with it. Here's hoping the rewritten bbkeys
continues the tradition of providing just the right amount of
functionality with minimun fuss.
To help me and others switch to the bbkeys-0.9.x, I hacked up a
conversion script for the .bbkeysrc file:
http://reich.sdf-eu.org/hannes/code/convert_bbkeysrc
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Re: mouse wheel things
On Friday 08 April 2005 10:05, Thomas Tretzmüller wrote:
Hi,
For example: if you use the mouse wheel on the root window, blackbox
will change workspaces. if you reach the last workspace, should it
wrap to the first or simply stop? my gut feeling says that it should
stop and not wrap, but i thought i would ask.
As a user with a mousewheel: I find the current behaviour (it doesn't
stop) quite comfortable, because in some cases scrolling down instead of
up is a faster way to reach a certain workspace.
I think documents or webpages are something different.
I agree with that.
Regards, Thomas
PS. There was a patch for blackbox 0.65 to allow shading and unshading
windows with the mousewheel on the titlebar. In this case nonstop could
be annoying ;)
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Re: bbkeys and new workspaces
On Sunday 20 March 2005 21:33, Joey Morris wrote:
When I add a new workspace in blackbox, bbkeys' workspace cycling behavior
is not the way I'd like it to be. In my bbkeysrc, I have the following:
[option] (workspaceColumns) {3}
[option] (workspaceRows) {1}
When I add a workspace, it appears that bbkeys puts it on a 2nd row,
because I can only access it with my upWorkspace and downWorkspace
keybindings. However, I prefer all my workspaces to be on a single row so
that I only have to use leftWorkspace and rightWorkspace to access them
all. Is there some way to configure bbkeys so that the number of rows is
locked to 1, and new workspaces are put on the 4th, 5th, etc. columns?
I'm using bbkeys 0.9.0 and blackbox 0.70.0.
Hi Joey,
If you'll look at the default bbkeysrc installed with bbkeys, you'll see this:
[option] (workspaceColumns) {4}
#[option] (workspaceRows) {2}
#only one can be effective at a time
#if both are given, workspaceColumns takes precedence
Basically, if you want to force bbkeys to only have one row then only give it
the workspaceRows option:
[option] (workspaceRows) {1}
Please file a bug report in the project tracker if this does not work
correctly.
Also, please report back here if it does work correctly. =:)
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Re: bbkeys and blackbox collectively sulking?
On Thursday 10 February 2005 13:37, Robert Marshall wrote:
I can replicate the bbkeys doesn't work after closing the last window
on a workspace bug - by the following procedure:
- start gimp (from menu)
- open most recently used file (of gimp)
- exit gimp (from file menu)
and bbkeys fails to work - it appears to need the image file opening for
the bug to be provoked.
If that is only happening reliabily here, can
someone send me some pointers to what I should be looking for, to finally
nail this bug, and I'll spend some time with gdb!
I've just added this sequence to bug number 1118438 which Ciprian has
recently opened which looks to be the same - though he still has a window
open?
To my knowledge, this is caused by no window having keyboard focus. Do you
have a window that has keyboard focus when you see this bug?
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Re: Bbconf redivivus
On Thursday 27 January 2005 01:49, Jens Koerner wrote:
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 05:21:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
050125 Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
also, it would be nice if changes took effect when you hit 'apply',
not only when you exit Bbconf
I don't see that bug. Hitting 'apply' worked for me with 0.65 and still
does with 0.70.0rc. Only bbkeys in bbconf is disabled for 0.70.0
Disabled? Or it just doesn't work? =:) Bbkeys has been completely rewritten
for blackbox 0.70.0 and the keybinding editor in bbconf will need to be
overhauled to get it working with the new code.
That's on my TO-DO list...
right below mating the socks in my sock drawer. =:D
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Re: bbkeys
On Monday 24 January 2005 02:45, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
2. Why do shaded windows unshade when you select them with bbkeys'
nextwindow? It doesn't happen if you focus them via mouse.
Hm. _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW is being sent to blackbox when that happens,
I believe. I think the spec is fuzzy on what the window manager is
supposed to do with the message with regards to a shaded window.
Blackbox treats a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW client message much differently
than normal a normal focus event. If the window is iconified, it's
restored; if the window is shaded, it's unshaded; if the window isn't on
the current workspace, the current workspace is changed.
Yes, this makes sense. Actually, I'm surprised that bbkeys is listing the
shaded windows in its list and cycling through them. I think metacity and
kwin set the iconic state on shaded windows, so these don't show up in the
cycle list with those wm's.
3. Suggestion: just like there's a cycleMenuX and cycleMenuY, it
would be nice to have as an alternative a cycleMenuCenterX and Y,
which the menu would center around. This way I could specify the
center of the screen and get the position of the old bbkeys cycle
menu. Or is there some other way to do this?
PLEASE send a patch for this, if you can figure it out. =:)
Blackbox's Menu class that I am using does not expose information
such as the width or height of its Window. Therefore, it is
impossible currently for bbkeys to know how big the menu will be and
center it. This is mentioned in the man page, iirc. The cycleMenuX
and cycleMenuY are only there as a kludge because there's really no
other way to do it unless nyz relents and changes Menu or I suddenly
develop an intolerable sense of boredom and write a completely new
class. =:)
I still maintain that bt::Menu is the wrong class for the job you're
doing (especially since bt::Menu grabs the mouse and keyboard when
shown). However, I'll capitulate and give you a kludged workaround.
Give me a few days.
heh. I understand your points, however, as I've been using bbkeys's popup
menu with the full mouse and keyboard grab, I've REALLY come to like how I
can either alt-tab through it OR use the mouse once I have it up and simply
click the one I want. Neither kwin's nor metacity's cycle window do this and
it's annoying now that I've gotten used to bbkeys's use of blackbox's Menu.
=:)
Thanks for the anticipated workaround tho!!! =:)
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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 Release Candidate now available.
On Thursday 20 January 2005 08:02, Dave Serls wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 11:06:19 +0100
Bradley T Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dave Serls wrote:
I'm running it now.
I've only 2 requests, both for menu processing.
1: Can the descriptor for the begin statement (only one) cause an
'ident' string to be optioanlly displayed on the menu? I tend to use
the 'begin' descriptor for that. Is there a reason that an RCS $id
can't be used (other than a given file must be updated when changing
releases)?
I don't quite understand this one... what exactly are you wanting to do?
[snip]
I was looking for an external way of identifying which version of
blackbox is running.
A menu line such as:
[begin] (version)
or
[begin] (blackbox version)
would display the code version in the main menu title.
Thanks again for some stellar software.
I agree, Brad. =:) Your work is much appreciated and admired with blackbox
and Qt!! =:)
Dave, I think you're talking about something like a help | about in other
applications. In other words, in other applications, you can click on a help
menu and choose about and it will tell you about the program--what version
it is, who wrote it, etc. I think you can pull this off most easily in
blackbox with the nop tag.
Here's a patch that should apply to blackbox 0.70 and CVS that should give you
this in the menu...
You'll need to apply it inside the data directory with this command:
patch -p0 /path/to/bboxversion.patch
You'll then need to go to the root of the blackbox tree and type automake -i
followed by ./configure (or if you've already run ./configure once, just
run ./config.status). Then you can make and make install it.
Secondly... Brad, I'm curious as to why you don't use configure.ac to
generate your menu file (and man pages) from menu.in. =:)
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--- Makefile.am.bak 2005-01-20 08:40:31.826259777 -0500
+++ Makefile.am 2005-01-20 08:39:37.732388467 -0500
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@ distclean-local:
menu: menu.in
@regex_cmd@ -e s,@pkgdatadir@,$(pkgdatadir), @srcdir@/menu.in menu
+ @regex_cmd@ -e s,@version@,$(VERSION), @srcdir@/menu.in menu
install-data-local: menu
test -f $(DESTDIR)$(pkgdatadir)/menu || \
--- menu.in.bak 2005-01-20 08:32:12.483451831 -0500
+++ menu.in 2005-01-20 08:39:46.747063057 -0500
@@ -100,6 +100,10 @@
[restart] (Start KWM) {kwm}
[end]
+ [submenu] (Help...) {About Blackbox}
+[nop] (This is blackbox version: @version@)
+ [end]
+
[exit] (Exit)
[end]
Re: 2 patches
On Monday 10 January 2005 07:43, Markus Ottenbacher wrote:
Hi!
playing around with bb's code and that of some bbtools resulted in 2
patches that might be useful for some of you:
One to make bbpager (CVS version) compile against newer blackbox
versions (that was a simple findreplace netwm - ewmh)
the other one to enable workspace navigation with bbkeys, when the
workspaces do not form a complete rectangle.
I've placed them on some free web space:
http://ehome.compuserve.de/meottenbacher/
Hi Markus! =:)
Have you submitted these patches to the respective sourceforge.net patch
trackers? If something is missing/incorrect in bbkeys, I'd love to know
about it and fix it with your patch. I'm pretty sure the same is true for
kennis and bbpager. =:)
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Re: xorg vs XFree86 (considering an upgrade.. fedora core 2)
On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 07:56 -0400, Chris Grossmann wrote:
I know there are a lot of BSD folks on this list, apologies
ahead of time..
I'm considering upgrading from Fedora Core 1 to Fedora Core
2. I see that Fedora Core 2 uses xorg instead of XFree86.
I'm assuming this shouldn't be much of a problem. Even so:
Anyone out there using xorg yet? How about Fedora Core 2?
yes on both counts. =:) no problems.
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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 11:25, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 08:53, Markus Ottenbacher wrote:
Hi vanRijn,
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
[window decorations]
what are you seeing that makes you think the that the capability still
exists for bbkeys to send this message to blackbox? something in lib/?
No, in Window.cc exists a global method 'update_decorations' that
processes window decoration according to EWMH window type (eg window
type 'splash' has no decorations at all) and some extra hints and
conditions.
I think (nyz, please correct me), that according to this, you can't
change the decorations after the window has been created
http://freedesktop.org/Standards/wm-spec/1.3/ar01s05.html#id2503764
please correct me if I'm wrong!
YAY, I was wrong!!! =:D I've just committed a change to CVS that gets
toggleDecorations working again!! This time around, though, we're using
MOTIF_WM_HINTS, as per the discussion nyz and I had, instead of any
blackbox-specific atoms. This means that bbkeys's toggleDecorations
will work with other window managers too! I just tried both
blackbox-cvs and metacity 2.8.1 and they both switch decorations on and
off quite nicely.
please let me know if I've caused anyone's cat to cough up hairballs
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Re: Blackbox 0.70.0 beta2 released.
On Wed, 2004-09-08 at 05:30, Markus Ottenbacher wrote:
Playing around with Blackbox 0.70.0beta2 and bbkeys-0.9.0beta2,
switching window decorations on or off does not seem to be working any
more.
After a short glance at the sources it seems to me, that the capability
is still in the blackbox sources, however I suspect that bbkeys sends
the wrong kind of message.
Would this be hard to fix?
Hi Markus!
what are you seeing that makes you think the that the capability still
exists for bbkeys to send this message to blackbox? something in lib/?
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Re: Unicode support in libbt and blackbox
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 04:10, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2004 09:41, Markus Ottenbacher wrote:
[snip]
... or SuSE 8.2/9.1 users (gcc 3.3 and gcc 3.3.3)...
Could anyone explain above mentioned workaround? making an adapted
copy-paste of the 'char_traits.h' file seems rather vague to me.
The standard C++ library distributed with g++ 3.3.x and below properly
forward declares std::char_traits as defined in the C++ standard... but
it doesn't actually implement them. It actually only implements 2
specializations: char and wchar_t. What this means is that if you try
to use std::basic_string with anything other than char or wchar_t, you
will get undefined symbols.
Since this is C++, we can work around this, and have it work on all
standard compliant compilers :) We need to define our own character
type (typedef unsigned int Uchar;), and then implement a specialization
of std::char_traits for our character type. See the attached diff (I
plan on putting this into CVS as soon as I verify it with a few more
compilers). So far, I've checked g++ 3.3, g++ 3.4 and intel 8.0. I'm
going to try intel 7.1 and g++ 3.2 before committing.
a) you rock for doing this workaround!
2) it sucks that you have to do this workaround! =:)
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Re: Unicode support in libbt and blackbox
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 04:30, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
On Friday 03 September 2004 10:10, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
[snip]
See the attached diff (I plan on putting this into CVS as soon as I
verify it with a few more compilers). So far, I've checked g++ 3.3,
g++ 3.4 and intel 8.0. I'm going to try intel 7.1 and g++ 3.2 before
committing.
Just an FYI, I have committed the work around.
I successfully compiled with:
g++ 3.4
g++ 3.3
g++ 3.2
g++ 2.95.4 (FreeBSD native compiler)
intel 8.0
intel 7.1
works perfectly!! =:) thanks!!
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bbkeys 0.9.0beta2 released
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=33459
keeping up with blackbox changes. =:)
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Re: using bbkeys beta questions/comments
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 05:09, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Now I am building bbkeys-0.9.0-beta1.
I think the Makefile.am should be
fixed so docdir uses $(datadir)/doc/bbkeys instead of
$(prefix)/doc/bbkeys.
okay, fair enough. not really sure if this is
multi-distribution-compliant? anyone have any complaints?
Also what happened to NextWorkspace? I don't see in source nor
ChangeLogs.
it's nextWorkspace, case-insensitive, as you've found. =:)
And what does workspaceColumns mean? workspaceRows? (I read man page, but
I need examples.)
from the manpage change I'll commit in a second...
TP
fIworkspaceRowsfR
number of rows that you have your workspaces/desktops laid out in
(numeric). As way of an example, if you have your pager laid out in a
4x2 grid (4 wide, 2 high), then you would set workspaceColumns to 4 and
workspaceRows to 2.
=:)
And where is stackedRaise and stackedCycling documented? (I don't see in
source but it is in README.)
these have been removed. or more correctly, we always do stacked
cycling, and don't even try to do the old funky blackbox window
cycling. =:) thanks for catching these, though. I've removed them
from the README.
Also, I see menuTextJustify -- this seems like that bbkeys is more than
just for key manager.
yeah. this was intended to allow the user to override the text
justification for the window-cycling menu that comes up. however, I've
never added code behind it. In fact, I'm not sure if it's even possible
to override this after blackbox's lib has read in the style file. I'll
have to check this later
Is there anyway to tell it to reload configs manually, so don't use
autoConfig? (Like a -HUP signal?)
killall -HUP bbkeys will cause it to reconfigure itself, yes. I've also
documented this in bbkeysrc.5, in the autoConfig section. =:)
After, I configured it it seems to work, other than I am missing my
NextWorkspace (which I used to have mapped to my F30 earlier before my
upgrade).
I have:
..
[NextWindow] (Mod1-Tab)
[NextWindowOnAllWorkspaces] (F30)
[PrevWindow] (Mod1-Shift-Tab)
..
I press Alt-Tab and it brings up a menu to switch to and that works when I
click it a second time (still holding down the alt key). It seems like it
made me lose focus from any window, but now I can't repeat that.
I am glad I have bbkeys. I need alt-tab!
er. I use alt-tab and have for a long, long time, and it works fine.
Are you still having problems with this?
Thanks,
Jeremy C. Reed
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http://bsd.reedmedia.net/ -- BSD news and resources
Jeremy, I cannot thank you enough for sending this e-mail and catching
these missing things!! =:) THANKS!!!
I have made all of these changes after I release bbkeys-0.9.0beta2, tho,
so these will be committed to CVS and released in the next version.
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Re: blackbox beta1 crash and bbkeys not changing windows
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 17:34, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Grabbed title bar and tried to move and blackbox-0.70.0-beta1 crashed with
core:
(gdb) bt
#0 0x4842a7f3 in kill () from /usr/lib/libc.so.12
#1 0x4842a140 in abort () from /usr/lib/libc.so.12
#2 0x483e7f0e in __assert13 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.12
#3 0x806564a in dladdr ()
#4 0x8060269 in dladdr ()
#5 0x805bd21 in dladdr ()
#6 0x8071d74 in dladdr ()
#7 0x8079690 in dladdr ()
#8 0x80768c1 in dladdr ()
#9 0x80792b5 in dladdr ()
#10 0x8077a47 in dladdr ()
#11 0x804c0d0 in XMapRaised ()
I restarted blackbox. I had an rxvt session started so all my X clients
were still running.
Then bbkeys would only go through six NextWindows. Then it would stop. I
repeated this several times in a row. I killed bbkeys. And when I
restarted it, it would only go to one NextWindow and stop. Then I focused
to another window (to type on this email). ...
And now bbkeys will go to only eight NextWindows. I have eleven windows on
this workspace and it should rotate through 9, 10, 11 and back to 1. I see
the window it stops at by looking at the window title in the middle of my
blackbox toolbar.
(By the way, I wish there is an option for each window to come to the
front when switching through all so I can see.)
I will try beta2 now ...
please do. try bbkeys -D and see if you can find anything helpful.
also, please paste your config in your next e-mail if it still has
problems.
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Re: bbkeys 0.9.0beta2 released
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 19:48, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
keeping up with blackbox changes. =:)
Missing -liconv:
this is a symptom caused (I think) by the workaround you had to make in
blackbox. as a result, the pkgconfig stuff is now broke.
I am now using bbkeys 0.9.0beta2. Started after killing running bbkeys.
I have many X clients running. Blackbox's menu for Workspace 1 shows 13
clients and I have a few in other workspaces and many minimized.
(xlsclients shows 45.)
But bbkeys using nextWindows will only go through 7 windows -- when
holding down Alt and pressing tab repeatedly. It should see more and then
begin rotating from beginning again.
I see the window names in teh middle of my toolbar.
This also stopped at 5 and also at different amounts. I have repeated it
numerous times with beta1 and beta2. Sometimes though it will go through
all my choices but won't start at the first one again though.
(I mentioned some of this in a different thread.)
Old bbkeys and blackbox worked a lot better for me. But I'll keep trying
the betas ...
well, I just want to encourage you and ask you to continue to help us
get these bugs ironed out!!! You're the first person to report this
problem in the last year+. Um. As far as figuring this thing out...
I'm not quite sure how I can debug this through e-mail. =:/ try
running bbkeys -D and see if you can get any useful info?
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Re: using blackbox-0.70.0-beta1 and build problem in Application.cc
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 05:03, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
This is NetBSD 1.6.x using default gcc 2.95.3. Can blackbox beta be built
with gcc 2.95.x?
This is blackbox-0.70.0-beta1. (Building using pkgsrc infrastructure.)
[snip]
Also I see only a archive libbt installed, but no shared library
(libbt.so). Is there plans to provide/use a shared library (for bbkeys for
example)?
I've sent the patch that allows this to happen a while ago, and it was
decided (iirc) that at least until we go through all the betas, libbt
would not provide a shared library, as it would make things slightly
simpler to debug, etc. I'm hoping that before the next full version of
blackbox/bbkeys/bbpager are released, we'll have a shared library.
Any suggestions on what I should use for listing all my
minimized/iconified titles?
hm. well, bbkeys could do this, I suppose. are you saying that the
minimized windows should show up in the window-cycling list?
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Re: bbkeys 0.9.0beta2 released
On Fri, 2004-09-03 at 21:44, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
[snip]
My focus style is Click to Focus.
ah hah. hm. I wonder if this is related to click to focus. it's a
known limitation of blackbox-0.70.0beta*.
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Re: using bbkeys beta questions/comments
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 05:17, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Also what happened to NextWorkspace? I don't see in source nor
ChangeLogs.
Well, I see it is lowercase n. It works for me.
Also, does raiseWhileCycling work? I don't see any difference with it true
or false. (Even with showCycleMenu set to false.)
I do see the title bars and frames highlighted, but the windows are not
brought forward. Is there another option to bring forward?
(Should I be using some bbkeys mailing list?)
nope. =:) this is the right place. I will try to look at all your
questions and send a coherent answer today. =:) I will say that the
code has been _completely_ rewritten from scratch, and the documentation
hasn't been updated so much. I did try to clean up the man pages, but
I'm not sure I even did that right
I'll try to answer your first e-mail later this morning... =:)
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Re: PrevWorkspace sometimes stops working?
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 17:02, Robert Marshall wrote:
Not sure I can quite replicate this but I've seen it a few times..
latest blackbox cvs (well updated Friday) and bbkeys - not updated so
recently, after closing a window then trying to change workspace with a key
binding doesn't work, I can change workspace using the toolbar and then
after a few window operations it starts working again.
I'm sorry that's extremely vague, but in case it helps in tracking down!
I'll keep looking
Robert
are there any open windows on the desktop after you close the window
with bbkeys? does it happen every time you close a window?
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Re: PrevWorkspace sometimes stops working?
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 17:00, Robert Marshall wrote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004, Jason Kasper wrote:
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 17:02, Robert Marshall wrote:
Not sure I can quite replicate this but I've seen it a few times..
latest blackbox cvs (well updated Friday) and bbkeys - not updated so
recently, after closing a window then trying to change workspace with a
key binding doesn't work, I can change workspace using the toolbar and
then after a few window operations it starts working again.
are there any open windows on the desktop after you close the window
with bbkeys? does it happen every time you close a window?
In all cases that it's happened there are other windows open though again
in all cases none in that workspace and no it doesn't happen every time I
close a window
I should have qualified that There has been a bug between bbkeys
and blackbox for years now that we've never tracked down, where if you
switch workspaces to a workspace that has no open windows, or if you
close a window and there are no other open windows on the current
workspace, nothing has keyboard focus and bbkeys never gets the keypress
events. It doesn't happen if you run something in your root window
(metacity, kdesktop, rox probably), since in that case, something will
always have keyboard focus.
any help tracking this down would be greatly appreciated. I don't think
at this point that we even know where the problem lies--if it's bbkeys
doing something wrong or blackbox allowing nothing to have input focus.
I'd be curious to hear thoughts on this...
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Re: blackbox-0.70.0-beta1
On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 11:51, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
So, I decided to get off my ass and put up a beta of the next release.
It's been way too long since the last stable release, and since I've
been using the CVS version full-time for several months now, I figured
everyone else should do the same ;)
This is a fully functional release. EWMH (aka NETWM) is implemented, so
please test it out.
This is the first beta, and it is lacking a few things:
just wanted to say... it is GOOD to see your little WM active again,
nyz. =:D I shall try to push a release of bbkeys out this weekend to
match your activity. =:D
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bbkeys 0.9.0 beta1 released
Not wanting to be out-done by nyz, I have just released 0.9.0 beta1 of
bbkeys. You can grab it from http://bbkeys.sf.net/ as always.
A couple of notable thingeys:
1) this version of bbkeys is completely dependent on blackbox version
0.70.0-beta1. install it first.
2) because of (1), if you install blackbox to somewhere non-standard,
you'll need to do:
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$HOME/local/blackbox-0.70.0-beta1/lib/pkgconfig
(or wherever you installed it to) before you can run ./configure for
bbkeys. Otherwise, you'll get configuration errors.
3) bbkeys's config file has completely changed since 0.8.x. bbkeys no
longer has any on-screen presence whatsoever (no icon, etc.). all
settings for bbkeys are now kept in the same file. this file uses the
same format as blackbox's menu. see the distributed sample bbkeysrc
file and the man pages for more information.
4) there is a LOT of new functionality in this version of bbkeys,
compared to previous versions, including chained keybindings (ala
emacs), parameterized directives, and much other goodness. see the man
pages for more details.
5) bbkeys is (thanks to blackbox's shared libbt library)
EWMH-compliant. this means that you can use it with openbox, blackbox
(0.70.0+), kde, metacity, and any other NETWM/EWMH-compliant window
manager. I've been using it for the last year+ with all of these window
managers with zero problems (save for some silly metacity stuff here and
there which I've fixed). I like doing this so that as the mood strikes
me, I can play with different window managers without having to
reconfigure their keybindings constantly--bbkeys does it all for me.
more stuff, I'm sure, I've forgotten. please give this a try, along
with the newly-released blackbox-0.70.0-beta1. please report any and
all bugs, problems, suggestions, and plans for world domination.
oh--I've updated the man pages for bbkeys, but am by no means a trained
editor of man pages. I'd greatly appreciate it if someone could look
them over.
thanks!!!
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Re: cvs bbkeys query
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 16:03, Dave Serls wrote:
Jason --
Can a numeric increment/decrement be assigned to the MoveWindow keystroke?
The movement is just a little 'fine' for my general usage.
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Hi Dave. =:) It's already there. here's what's in my ~/.bbkeysrc.
You can change the number to whatever you like.
[moveWindowUp] (Mod1-Control-Up) {1}
[moveWindowDown] (Mod1-Control-Down) {1}
[moveWindowLeft] (Mod1-Control-Left) {1}
[moveWindowRight] (Mod1-Control-Right) {1}
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Re: bbkeys cvs compile error
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 21:44, Steven Kah Hien Wong wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2004 at 01:30:02PM -0600, Dave Serls wrote:
Isn't this for (non-existent) NLS support.
I commented out that line in main.cpp
Indeed it is. I sent Vanrijn a patch on the 3rd July, but he hasn't
responded yet. Attached is the patch I sent. It just removes the i18n.hh
#include's, and instances of the bt::I18n class.
Steven
Yeah, I'm here. I'm sorry for the slow response times. Real Life (TM)
and all I'm hoping over the next couple of nights, I'll get a
chance to update blackbox from CVS and resolve all problems, etc.
thanks for the patch, Steven!! =:)
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Re: problem with firefox and input boxes in cvs?
On Sat, 2004-06-12 at 14:22, Steven Kah Hien Wong (Glutinous) wrote:
Alternatively, you can disable history saving in Firefox:
Tools | Options... | History | Remember visited pages for the last [0] days.
From what I see, it seems the problem is due to the pull-down menu that
pops up displaying the history of past-visited pages as you type in the
address bar.
On a side note, it seems the Blackbox sourceforge CVS hasn't been
updated in quite awhile, or is there something wrong with my recent
changes to .cvsrc (it just has the line: update -d -P -R, so I can
just type 'cvs update' all the time).
nothing wrong with that, I don't think. the project has stalled again.
Steven
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Re: bbkeys cvs dies when issued a SIGHUP
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 23:13, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 16:29, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
It would appear that the cvs version of bbkeys dies when sent a SIGHUP.
After updating my keybindings I normally issue a SIGHUP to the
keybinding app to get it to reload it's configuration. However, with
the current cvs, sending a SIGHUP to the process cause it to abort. The
following is the output of starting bbkeys and issuing a SIGHUP from
another terminal:
$ /usr/local/bin/bbkeys -c /home/jcollins/.blackbox/keybindings
ScreenHandler: in findSupportingWM.
ScreenHandler: first readSupportingWMCheck succeeded.
ScreenHandler: second readSupportingWMCheck worked.
ScreenHandler: Found compatible window manager: [Blackbox] for screen: [0].
ScreenHandler: Supported atoms: [45].
ScreenHandler: in findSupportingWM.
ScreenHandler: first readSupportingWMCheck succeeded.
ScreenHandler: second readSupportingWMCheck worked.
ScreenHandler: Found compatible window manager: [Blackbox] for screen: [0].
ScreenHandler: Supported atoms: [45].
bbkeys: Font.cc:324: void bt::FontCache::release(const std::string,
unsigned int): Assertion `it != cache.end() it-second.count 0'
failed.
Aborted
The gap above is actually there in the output, it appears that bbkeys is
indead attempting to restart, but then aborts due to an assertion.
This has already been filed as a bug against blackbox. If you'll note,
the assertion is in bt::FontCache, which is in libbt, the blackbox
library. I am MORE than willing to fix the bug if it's indeed mine, but
I don't think it is. =:/
ack. the URL is:
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=428680aid=912369group_id=40696
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Re: bbkeys cvs window cycling problem
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 18:07, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:31:21 -0600 Keith Maika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 03:01:31PM -0500, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
hm. what keys/modifiers are you using? I normally don't have
NumLock pressed on my keyboard (laptop), but I just tried it now using
metacity, with/without {Num,Caps,Scroll}Lock engaged with no problems.
[NextWindow] (Mod1-Tab)
[PrevWindow] (Mod1-Shift-Tab)
It's 100% reproducable here, under both Blackbox CVS and Openbox 3.
Just installed metacity here and it too has the problem.
Slightly old, but I finally decided to switch to blackbox cvs and bbkeys
cvs as my standard, and just noticed this bug is still there. Was a
resolution ever found for it?
Also on an unrelated note, I noticed that if you have a window open with
a long title (eg mozilla on a page w/ large title) then the cycle window
runs off the screen and starts toward the center of the screen. Would
it be possible to move the window to start more towared the left so it
could fit onscreen?
Or perhaps bbkeys could truncate the middle of the window name like blackbox
cvs does. Eventually there's going to be a window name wider than the
screen...
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Um. It already does this.
std::string newTitle = bt::ellideText(title, 100, ... );
revision 1.10
date: 2004/02/08 19:45:43; author: vanrijn; state: Exp; lines: +3 -1
adding ellided text to menu popup when necessary
Um. I'm confused.
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Re: bbkeys cvs window cycling problem
On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 20:22, Keith Maika wrote:
[snippage]
Personally I wouldn't have much of a problem with it running of screen,
so long as it started on the left edge. In that case I would be able to
see the majority of the title. However I do like the idea of truncating
the middle part. I think it might look better. Could be useful if you
have two long titles which are the same except for the last few words too.
this is already in there. been in there for a while too.
As for the orginal subject of this thread, I did play with the source
code, and found a solution to the numlock problem. I created a patch
which can be obtained at:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=939710group_id=33459atid=408289
yep, thanks for the patch!! =:) I just committed a modified version of
this 2 minutes ago. I don't know how long it will take to get updated
in anonymous CVS.
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Re: libbt name clash with BitTorrent library
hah. lol. one of those things you hope to avoid!! lol.
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 22:04, Steven Wong wrote:
Not sure if this is relavent, but there is a BitTorrent library also
called libbt:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/libbt
Would a change in the Blackbox library name be necessary?
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Re: bbkeys cvs window cycling problem
hm. what keys/modifiers are you using? I normally don't have NumLock pressed on my keyboard (laptop), but I just tried it now using metacity, with/without {Num,Caps,Scroll}Lock engaged with no problems.
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 13:15, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
I noticed this a few days ago, but just verified it happening with
both Blackbox CVS and Openbox v3. For some reason, the window cycling
keybinding only allows switching to first window. That is, if I have 3
windows open with #1 focused, and press the keybind it will pop a dialog
with #2 selected. Additional presses of the keybind will not move the
selection to #3.
This problem appears to manifest only when NumLock is active.
This has been tested using bbkeys cvs updated today (Feb 22, 2004).
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Re: Window nudging
if you're using bbkeys CVS, it's controllable via your config file.
[moveWindowUp] (Mod1-Control-Up) {5}
[moveWindowDown] (Mod1-Control-Down) {5}
[moveWindowLeft] (Mod1-Control-Left) {5}
[moveWindowRight] (Mod1-Control-Right) {5}
sorry for not answering sooner. =:D
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 02:42, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
Does bbkeys control the amount by which a window is moved, or is it
a Blackbox internal feature and bbkeys just calls on it? I find the 1
pixel amount very inefficient, plus it makes the CPU climb to 100%
during the time I keep the window moving. I'd like to change that to
at least 10 pixels or something like that, but I don't even know where
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On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 00:54, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:47:47AM -0500, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
just wanted to let y'all know... I've just committed code to bbkeys CVS
that adds back the autoConfig and autoConfigCheckTimeout options from
the old bbkeys (0.8.x, etc.). autoConfig is a boolean and
autoConfigCheckTimeout is the number of seconds to wait between file
stat()'s. It's a very inexpensive check, so turning it on shouldn't hurt
anything on your box, leastwise CPU, etc. PLEASE let me know if you see
anything fonky and I'll look at it immediately.
Did you happen to get a chance to look in to the maximization oddity I
posted here a while ago?
I don't know that I saw it. What was the problem?
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On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 10:47, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 07:13:47AM -0500, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 00:54, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:47:47AM -0500, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
just wanted to let y'all know... I've just committed code to bbkeys CVS
that adds back the autoConfig and autoConfigCheckTimeout options from
the old bbkeys (0.8.x, etc.). autoConfig is a boolean and
autoConfigCheckTimeout is the number of seconds to wait between file
stat()'s. It's a very inexpensive check, so turning it on shouldn't hurt
anything on your box, leastwise CPU, etc. PLEASE let me know if you see
anything fonky and I'll look at it immediately.
Did you happen to get a chance to look in to the maximization oddity I
posted here a while ago?
I don't know that I saw it. What was the problem?
Using cvs versions of both bbkeys and blacbox, newly opened windows can
not be vertically maximized via keybindings without first switching
focus away from them and back to them. Not sure which side the problem
is on.
well, I just tried it with metacity and it works perfectly fine.
can you try it with a different WM (metacity, kwin, ob3) and see if it
works with them?
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new commits for bbkeys
just wanted to let y'all know... I've just committed code to bbkeys CVS
that adds back the autoConfig and autoConfigCheckTimeout options from
the old bbkeys (0.8.x, etc.). autoConfig is a boolean and
autoConfigCheckTimeout is the number of seconds to wait between file
stat()'s. It's a very inexpensive check, so turning it on shouldn't hurt
anything on your box, leastwise CPU, etc. PLEASE let me know if you see
anything fonky and I'll look at it immediately.
Um. Other than that, the man pages for bbkeys, etc., are sorely out of
date, as is the perl configurator. Both of these were VERY GRACIOUSLY
contributed by some of you guys in the past, so I'm humbly asking if
someone could spare the time to help me update these for the new
version. PLEASE? =:)
thanks!!! =:) Please send feedback, monetary donations, job offers,
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Re: Blackbox 0.70 screenshot
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 11:15, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 12:03:20AM -0500, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
mostly works??? =:P I've been using ONLY bbkeys for keybindings with
blackbox, openbox2, kwin, and now metacity for over a year now with no
problems (well, fixing problems as they pop up =:D ). So if there are
problems, please report them, everyone!! As far as I know, there are
zero outstanding buggies with bbkeys-CVS currently.
I might have one for you... When using sloppy focus and cycling windows
with bbkeys if the mouse pointer is over a window that will be the
focused window when you're done regardless of what you selected via
cycling.
just fixed this one last night. =:) Please update from CVS and make
sure that you get the new WindowlistMenu.cpp
revision 1.11
date: 2004/02/12 04:33:22; author: vanrijn; state: Exp; lines: +8 -1
fixing window-focus behavior at end of window cycling
this has fixed it for me, using metacity as my WM. please let me know
if it still doesn't fix it for you. =:)
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Re: Few questions about blackbox CVS version
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 18:03, Geoffroy Giraux wrote:
[lots of snippage]
P.S. I didn't installed bb (i run it from my home tmp directory where i ran
'make'), so i noticed i couldn't compile bbkeys cvs :(
first configure complains about libbt, i export PKG_CONFIG_PATH as suggested,
configure ran nice, but make fails :
you have to install it. don't blame me, blame libtool. but just
install it somewhere in your home directory if you want. run
./configure --prefix=$HOME/local/blackbox-CVS make clean make
install in blackbox's directory so that it properly builds and installs
the shared object code.
extract from ./configure output :
---
checking for libbt... yes
checking LIBBT_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/bt
checking LIBBT_LIBS... -L/usr/local/lib -lbt
isn't it strange, since the libbt path i indicated in the PKG_CONFIG_PATH is
~/tmp/cvs/blackbox/lib ?
end of make output :
make[2]: *** [KeyClient.o] Erreur 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/geo/tmp/cvs/bbkeys/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/geo/tmp/cvs/bbkeys'
make: *** [all] Erreur 2
well, a huge mess with KeyClient.cpp :(
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Re: Blackbox 0.70 screenshot
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 21:42, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On Tuesday 10 February 2004 22:49, Mads Martin Joergensen wrote:
* Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Feb 11. 2004 07:34]:
* work on the library for things like bbpager, bbkeys, etc.
Could you elaborate more? Is it a matter of porting the initial
userspace apps?
bbkeys mostly works, bbpager still needs a rewrite. Not a reason to hold up
the release per se. However both apps want some updates to the lib. I would
like to see one or two more apps using the lib as well.
mostly works??? =:P I've been using ONLY bbkeys for keybindings with
blackbox, openbox2, kwin, and now metacity for over a year now with no
problems (well, fixing problems as they pop up =:D ). So if there are
problems, please report them, everyone!! As far as I know, there are
zero outstanding buggies with bbkeys-CVS currently.
I had been thinking of re-writing bbpal to use the lib. Should make for a
great sample and test of the API.
well, not to downplay the high quality software that bbpal is, but it
isn't nearly as good a test as writing something that actually interacts
with the WM--that's what's really shown as missing in the bbkeys
rewrite, and I suspect that kns will see the same thing as he rewrites
bbpager.
/emotional_outburst =:)
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Re: CVS testing issues
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 12:18, Robert Upshall wrote:
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 09:38, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
This refers to blackbox and bbkeys from CVS.
1. May I suggest the unification of the configuration files under the
~/.blackbox directory? As long as there is more than one Blackbox file, it
makes sense to use a single directory for them instead of a directory _and_ a
separate ~/.blackboxrc file. I believe ~/.blackbox/rc or ~/.blackbox/config
were suggested.
I second this!!! It would be great if blackbox and all the bbtools had
a standard config location.
um.
([EMAIL PROTECTED] : ~) bbkeys -help (01:41am/1452/ttypts/0)
bbkeys version: [0.9.0pre]
Usage: bbkeys [options]
Options:
-d or --display display nameX server to connect to
-D or --debug print debugging information
-c or --config filenameconfiguration file
(default is ~/.blackbox/keybindings)
-v or --version Display version number
-h or --help Display this help
2 things
1) my -help cout is wrong. =:) bbkeys uses ~/.bbkeysrc by default.
2) if you pass it a -c or --config=~/.blackbox/whatever, it will use it.
I'll likely not change the default, but that doesn't mean that you can't
override it. =:)
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Re: bbmenu, bbtoolbar, etc
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 08:16, Ciprian Popovici wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:17:45 -0500 James deBoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a reason that the menu and the toolbar are coded into Blackbox
while other important features such as bbkeys and bbrun are not?
I think this is a very valid point IMHO. Personally, I seldom use the toolbar
since I can use a dockapp to tell the time, and I have a relaxed environment
with many desktops so between that and the bbpager I don't really need the
toolbar to tell me the workspace or the current window.
[snip]
I for one would love to have bbtoolbar and bbmenu as separate applications. Of
course, I wouldn't know what this means code-wise but I suspect it is easier
to do since the shared library came to be.
er.
I wouldn't argue that the toolbar would fit into the could be in
another bbtool category, but menu that doesn't make any sense.
=:)
that being said, the menu is already in the shared library, so anyone
can create a menu and set it to the same style as blackbox is using,
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bbkeys now has a popup window-cycling dialog!
just wanted to let y'all know... I just finished some bbkeys
enhancements. bbkeys now has a popup window-cycling dialog!!
yay! =:)
It's probably not in its finished state, and it's possible to screw it
up, I'm sure. It subclasses libbt's Menu currently, so there are
certain things that it can't do, like center itself perfectly
on-screen. But other than that, it's pretty darned sweet, if I do say
so myself.
I'll paste my ~/.bbkeysrc file below
The relevant sections for the menu are:
- stylefile : this is the style that is used for displaying the
on-screen window menu. if you don't supply this, your window menu will
be black and white (ugly).
- showCycleMenu : set to true for the popup menu
- cycleMenu{X,Y} : since the libbt Menu class doesn't provide complete
programmatic manipulation of on-screen placement, etc., you can override
the almost-there on-screen centering by providing X and Y positions
where you want the menu to show up. I personally like mine at +20+20.
=:)
this is for the CVS version of bbkeys, of course, which is dependent on
blackbox CVS. any problems/thoughts/suggestions/bugs/etc., please let
me know.
[begin] (bbkeys configuration file)
[config]
[option] (stylefile) {/home/gideon/local/blackbox-CVS/share/blackbox/styles/Nyz}
[option] (honorModifiers) {false}
[option] (raiseWhileCycling) {false}
[option] (showCycleMenu) {true}
[option] (menuTextJustify) {right}
[option] (autoConfig) {true}
[option] (autoConfigCheckTimeout) {10}
[option] (workspaceColumns) {4}
[option] (workspaceRows) {2}
[option] (cycleMenuX) {20}
[option] (cycleMenuY) {20}
[end]
[keybindings] (begin keybindings)
[chain] (Control-Mod1-W)
[sendToWorkspace] (1) {1}
[sendToWorkspace] (2) {2}
[sendToWorkspace] (3) {3}
[sendToWorkspace] (4) {4}
[sendToWorkspace] (5) {5}
[sendToWorkspace] (6) {6}
[sendToWorkspace] (7) {7}
[sendToWorkspace] (8) {8}
[end]
[chain] (Mod1-Y)
[execute] (1) {xmms}
[execute] (2) {aumix -v +5}
[execute] (3) {aumix -v -5}
[end]
[Lower] (Mod1-Down)
[Raise] (Mod1-Up)
[toggleShade] (Mod1-F9)
[Close] (Mod1-F4)
[Iconify] (Mod1-m)
[toggleMaximizeFull] (Mod1-F12)
[toggleMaximizeHorizontal] (Mod1-F11)
[toggleMaximizeVertical] (Mod1-F10)
[toggleOmnipresent] (Mod1-Control-S)
#[toggleDecorations] (Mod1-Control-T)
[resizeWindowWidth] (Mod1-Control-Shift-Left) {-5}
[resizeWindowWidth] (Mod1-Control-Shift-Right) {5}
[resizeWindowHeight] (Mod1-Control-Shift-Up) {-5}
[resizeWindowHeight] (Mod1-Control-Shift-Down) {5}
[moveWindowUp] (Mod1-Control-Up)
[moveWindowDown] (Mod1-Control-Down)
[moveWindowLeft] (Mod1-Control-Left)
[moveWindowRight] (Mod1-Control-Right)
[NextWindow] (Mod1-Tab)
[NextWindowOnAllWorkspaces] (Mod1-Control-Tab)
[PrevWindow] (Mod1-Shift-Tab)
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-1) {1}
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-2) {2}
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-3) {3}
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-4) {4}
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-5) {5}
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-6) {6}
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-7) {7}
[changeWorkspace] (Mod1-8) {8}
[showRootMenu] (Mod1-Control-Escape)
[Execute] (Mod1-F5) {xrefresh}
[Execute] (Mod1-F1) {aterm}
[Execute] (Mod4-E) {kfmclient openProfile filemanagement}
[end] (end keybindings)
[end] (end bbkeys configuration)
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Re: bbkeys and
On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 01:35, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On Friday 02 January 2004 21:11, Sam Halliday wrote:
unfortunately that wouldnt work for me as i like to have bbsload and
bbpager in the slit. i'd really just like to get rid of all visual
appearance entirely... i have no intentions of ever clicking on the icon...
i can achieve the same effect through the command line.
the bbkeys that matches 0.70 has no visual appearance unless you request it.
actually, it has absolutely zero visual appearance whatsoever.
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Re: bbappconf visual existence
HE!!! He lives!! =:) Hiya kns!! =:)
On Sat, 2003-12-27 at 09:18, John Kennis wrote:
Hi,
Well there has to be a visual, to be able to cominucate with blackbox.
I should have made it 1x1 pixel and placed it out of visual range.
A quick hack to always iconfy the window:
On line 288 of wminterface add: setIconicState(bbtool-framewin, True);
So you get:
void WMInterface::NETNotifyStartup() {
bbtool-setNETInit(); //wm_init=True;
setIconicState(bbtool-framewin, True);
cheers,
John
On Saturday 27 December 2003 13:39, Sam Halliday wrote:
hi there,
i have been a long time blackbox user... and i;ve always used bblaunch to
launch certain applications. but i decided to move onto bbappconf today, as
it seems to be more appropriate. however there is one thing which annoys me
greatly about it... it has a visual appearance! i had suppposed that it
would just run as a deamon in the background, with no need to appear on my
screen at all. sure i can iconify it, which is a pain, and it is also
annoying that it appears in the icons list in that case (i cannot use the
-i flag as blackbox has not started yet in my .xinitrc by that stage).
is there any way to setup/hack bbappconf so that it does not have a visual?
cheers,
Sam
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| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
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Re: XML configuration?
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 10:58, Russ Burdick wrote:
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 08:40:23AM -0600, Jared Lyvers wrote:
What would adding XML to blackbox help w/. Maybe I missed an earlier
thread. How would XML improve the BB experience?
i dont konw that it would add anything to blackbox itself, however the
OP was suggesting that XML-based configuration files could make
configuring blackbox easier to modify via existing (3rd party) tools. if
configuration is easier for someone then i suppose it is an
improvement to blackbox. i'm personally happy with the current method of
configuration, but i'm certainly not going to complain about additional
flexibility. however, i'd rather not force everyone to switch to xml if
they like things as they are, hence my suggestion to have an extra tool
to convert between xml and the bbconfig files.
just my $.02, but, the blackbox lib now has a re-usable config-file
parser that I plan on using in bbconf, and am already using in bbkeys.
I don't really think that adding the overhead of XML handling is worth
the effort.
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Re: bbkeys CVS glitch
Hm. Yup. I've looked at this enough to confirm it and scratch my
head. All seems correctly coded. I'll walk it through a debugger when
I get a chance and see where it's going wrong.
thanks!
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 07:57, Chris Grossmann wrote:
Using recent blackbox and CVS bbkeys..
I have the following two relavant settings:
...
[option] (workspaceColumns) {2}
...
[LeftWorkspace] (Control-Left)
...
Everything works fine, except:
If I'm in workspace four (picture this in the rightmost
column) and try to LeftWorkspace (which should send me to
the workspace immediately to the left, which would be
three), it jumps me to workspace one.
Upon closer examination, it seems to happen for any even
(right column) workspace. I always get sent back to one..
I have verified there is no other command bound to
Control-Left.
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Re: bbkeys CVS glitch
okay. golly. this code never worked. =:/
I've just committed this fix and other things. One important note
I've committed the changes to bbkeys's auto-detect-blackbox-magic that
relies on the patch I submitted to blackbox's tracker yesterday. Here's
how I run configure
PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$HOME/local/blackbox-CVS/lib/pkgconfig ./configure
--prefix=$HOME/local/bbkeys --enable-debug
*note* you have to tell pkgconfig where to look, if your $prefix for
where you installed blackbox wasn't /usr.
Also, I've removed configure from CVS and all the Makefile.in files
since these get regenerated every time something changes, and I've added
a bootstrap file.
Hm. okay, that should be enough confusion. Please reply if anything's
borked, etc.
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 22:15, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
Hm. Yup. I've looked at this enough to confirm it and scratch my
head. All seems correctly coded. I'll walk it through a debugger when
I get a chance and see where it's going wrong.
thanks!
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 07:57, Chris Grossmann wrote:
Using recent blackbox and CVS bbkeys..
I have the following two relavant settings:
...
[option] (workspaceColumns) {2}
...
[LeftWorkspace] (Control-Left)
...
Everything works fine, except:
If I'm in workspace four (picture this in the rightmost
column) and try to LeftWorkspace (which should send me to
the workspace immediately to the left, which would be
three), it jumps me to workspace one.
Upon closer examination, it seems to happen for any even
(right column) workspace. I always get sent back to one..
I have verified there is no other command bound to
Control-Left.
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| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
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Re: bbkeys in CVS: build problems
ermf. um. I just compiled this a week ago against current blackbox, I
thought Lemme make sure
Now, (while this compiles...) here's the 2 things that are odd about
this 1) I've not had to recompile bbkeys-CVS in a good long while.
=:) 2) that nobody's told me it's broke!!!
hmph. yep, you're right. it's borked. I'll try to look at it in the
next couple of days. Of course, I'll also gladly take any patches
offered =:)
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 18:50, James deBoer wrote:
I don't think bbkeys quite works with the CVS version of blackbox, apparently
it worked with a CVS version from last year. Since then there have been some
minor changes to the blackbox lib/ API..
If you mess around with the source you can get it to mostly compile.. I
actually got stuck at the linking stage. You have to change a few things
though, e.g. App::eventLoop() is now App::run() or something similar.
If you are interested in hacking on bbkeys you should send an email to
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On November 18, 2003 04:29 pm, Chris Grossmann wrote:
As I blindly plow through CVS...
I'm having problems building bbkeys:
KeyClient.cpp:101: no matching function for call to
`Netclient::Netclient (bt::Display *)'
Netclient.h:68: candidates are: Netclient::Netclient (Display *)
Netclient.h:131: Netclient::Netclient (const Netclient
)
KeyClient.cpp:105: no matching function for call to
`KeyGrabber::KeyGrabber (bt::Display *, unsigned int, unsigned int)'
KeyGrabber.h:37: candidates are: KeyGrabber::KeyGrabber (Display *,
unsigned int, unsigned int)
KeyGrabber.h:49: KeyGrabber::KeyGrabber (const
KeyGrabber )
KeyClient.cpp: In method `void KeyClient::cycleScreen (int, bool)
const':
KeyClient.cpp:397: no matching function for call to `XWindow::focus ()
const'
make: *** [KeyClient.o] Error 1
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Re: bbkeys in CVS: build problems
I've fixed all compile errors in bbkeys CVS and have just committed.
HOWEVER. The problem is that blackbox may or may not be linked against
Xft and bbkeys has no way of knowing. Normally this is accomplished via
pkgconfig magic, iirc, but such magic isn't yet in blackbox proper. So,
at least for the time being (read: until a real solution is present),
you'll need to first --disable-Xft (iirc) when compiling blackbox-CVS.
make install it, then compile bbkeys (don't forget to use --with-bt-lib=
and --with-bt-includes= pointing to the appropriate places when running
./configure). make install bbkeys. you'll not need to recompile it
soon, and hopefully the next time you do need to, we'll have a real
solution for the dependencies issues.
let me know if anything else is borked.
more importantly, please let me (and nyz) know if you can help get these
issues resolved by contributing code/patches/etc.
thanks!!
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 23:46, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
ermf. um. I just compiled this a week ago against current blackbox, I
thought Lemme make sure
Now, (while this compiles...) here's the 2 things that are odd about
this 1) I've not had to recompile bbkeys-CVS in a good long while.
=:) 2) that nobody's told me it's broke!!!
hmph. yep, you're right. it's borked. I'll try to look at it in the
next couple of days. Of course, I'll also gladly take any patches
offered =:)
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 18:50, James deBoer wrote:
I don't think bbkeys quite works with the CVS version of blackbox, apparently
it worked with a CVS version from last year. Since then there have been some
minor changes to the blackbox lib/ API..
If you mess around with the source you can get it to mostly compile.. I
actually got stuck at the linking stage. You have to change a few things
though, e.g. App::eventLoop() is now App::run() or something similar.
If you are interested in hacking on bbkeys you should send an email to
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James.
On November 18, 2003 04:29 pm, Chris Grossmann wrote:
As I blindly plow through CVS...
I'm having problems building bbkeys:
KeyClient.cpp:101: no matching function for call to
`Netclient::Netclient (bt::Display *)'
Netclient.h:68: candidates are: Netclient::Netclient (Display *)
Netclient.h:131: Netclient::Netclient (const Netclient
)
KeyClient.cpp:105: no matching function for call to
`KeyGrabber::KeyGrabber (bt::Display *, unsigned int, unsigned int)'
KeyGrabber.h:37: candidates are: KeyGrabber::KeyGrabber (Display *,
unsigned int, unsigned int)
KeyGrabber.h:49: KeyGrabber::KeyGrabber (const
KeyGrabber )
KeyClient.cpp: In method `void KeyClient::cycleScreen (int, bool)
const':
KeyClient.cpp:397: no matching function for call to `XWindow::focus ()
const'
make: *** [KeyClient.o] Error 1
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| All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
| in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
,
| bash$ :(){ :|:};:
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Re: CVS may have destabilized...
screenshot looks sweet man!! =:)
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 17:30, Bradley T Hughes wrote:
I just finished submitting the work that I've been doing on blackbox for
the past month and a half (while I was waiting for shaleh to return).
Lots and lots of things have been happening, and lots of things have changed.
I managed to touch every source file in CVS (except for lib/i18n.hh) over the
past few weeks, and much of it was done by taking a rather large diff and
submitting it little by little from a second source tree.
As a result, things may have destabilized a bit, so be careful if you're
running CVS or thinking about it. That being said, onto the good stuff :)
The stuff that I have been doing has been related to many discussions shaleh
and I have had over the last year. One of our goals is to support the
extended window manager hints (EWMH aka NetWM). This support has come a long
ways now, and it is actually possible to use the kde desktop and panel
applications (kicker and kdesktop) together with blackbox. I haven't tried
gnome, but it should be possible to use these as well.
Also, sticky support is back in CVS, as well as the long desired always-on-top
(as well as his brother, always-on-bottom). Smart support for fullscreen
windows has been added as well.
I've done a bit of work in the looks department as well, take a look at the
screenshot at http://trolls.troll.no/bhughes/blackbox/blackbox.png to get an
idea.
Feel free to try out the code from CVS... if anonymous CVS isn't working that
well (sourceforge is still upgrading their hardware as far as I know), you
can snag a snapshot from http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/blackbox.tar.gz
(or blackbox.tar.bz2 if you swing that way). I'd appreciate any feedback/
comments/criticism :)
Thanks
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Re: bbtools and a blackbox library?
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 13:10, David Bonner wrote:
The one remaining nit that I know about that I've not had time to sit
down and create a fix/patch for is that blackbox CVS now may or may not
be compiled with Xft, and there's no way for external applications to
know this. The fix discussed with nyz is in creating a pkgconfig script
that is installed with blackbox, so that any 3rd party apps can call it,
much like gtk-config or xft-config. It's just a matter of someone
finding the time to do it.
Is this something that still needs doing? Seems like a pretty easy thing
for someone not too familiar with the source to do, and I've been looking
for ways to contribute back to blackbox. Let me know if it's still on the
todo list, and I should be able to get a patch posted later this week.
As far as I know, neither Shaleh nor Nyz have worked on this yet. So,
yes, I think it would be fantastic if you took the time to get this
working. I can't speak as to what commitment you'll get from Shaleh or
Nyz that your work will be committed to HEAD, but I would think they'd
be receptive to it as they both know it's needed.
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Re: wrong item selected in menu if menu changes
hm. I think I understand what you're saying, and it sounds like an edge
case that I never thought about. Just to clarify, it sounds like what
you're saying is that while bbkeys has its window-cycling menu open, a
window on the list closes and bbkeys now sets focus incorrectly as you
cycle through the list?
I'm not honestly sure how one could fix it other than grabbing the
server (not a good idea), or closing the popup menu (which I think would
also be confusing), combined possibly with re-opening the menu (which I
think would be even more confusing).
Currently in bbkeys CVS (works with kwin, sawfish, wmaker-CVS, ob2, ob3,
blackbox-CVS) there is no window cycling menu. I've not gotten around
to implementing one. So you won't have exactly the same problem there.
You may have a different one, but =:)
On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 00:34, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
I noticed a few times that when closing a window, then quickly opening my
menu of icons (using bbkeys NextWindow) and selecting another window may
select the wrong window.
For example, I close window A but its real closing is delayed. So when I
open the menu, window A is still in the list. So when I select something
(by alt-tab in my case) and then window A finally closes, the window that
really opens is not the same as the one I have highlighted.
This is 0.65.0, bbkeys version 0.8.5 under NetBSD/i386 1.6.
Jeremy C. Reed
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Re: bbtools and a blackbox library?
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 08:52, Sam Halliday wrote:
hey there,
i remember hearing rumours on the mailing list some time ago that
blackbox will soon have a library which the tools can use (to reduce
code repetition). myself and a mate are keen on doing a little bbtools
hacking, and we were wondering what the status on that library is in
CVS? (i looked but didnt see any library stuff yet) which classes will
be in the library, and if this is going to be done, is there a timeframe
for the library seperation?
I can't answer the when it will be done question, but bbkeys in CVS
has been developed against the new blackbox lib for the last 7 months,
at least. So, to answer your question, the lib is there, and it's
completely usable. blackbox doesn't yet have any way to install the
headers for blackbox-dev yet, and last I checked, it still doesn't use
the library as shared code (it's not a .so yet), though I've submitted a
patch for this to happen and I believe shaleh has indicated that that
will happen soon.
If you pull down blackbox CVS and look in lib/, you'll see what's there
for the lib. For the time being, I just compile against the headers and
object code in that directory. You can see how bbkeys does this by
looking at bbkeys' CVS code, specifically in the configure.ac file.
Also of note--if you want to do netwm client stuff, there's not
currently a complete class in the blackbox lib for doing that. I've
written a Netclient class in bbkeys that extends bt::Netwm and my hope
is that it will eventually get included in the lib, since any bbtool
will need to use it.
The one remaining nit that I know about that I've not had time to sit
down and create a fix/patch for is that blackbox CVS now may or may not
be compiled with Xft, and there's no way for external applications to
know this. The fix discussed with nyz is in creating a pkgconfig script
that is installed with blackbox, so that any 3rd party apps can call it,
much like gtk-config or xft-config. It's just a matter of someone
finding the time to do it.
And that's all I have to say about that =:)
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Re: compiling CVS bbkeys
er. my configure line looks like this:
./configure --enable-debug --prefix=$HOME/local/bbkeys
--with-bt-lib=$HOME/code/blackbox/lib
--with-bt-includes=$HOME/code/blackbox/lib
(all on one line)
blackbox doesn't yet install its headers or shared object anywhere. I'm
assuming it will before 0.70.0 is out, but for the time being, you'll
need to specify both of these directories.
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 17:41, Art Haas wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 03:10:02PM -0500, Robert Upshall wrote:
On my home machine I am running the cvs version of blackbox without
problems. I am attempting to compile and install the cvs version of
bbkeys as well.
During my configure it tells me I am missing the blackbox header files
and tells me I can use a parm on the configure to tell it where to find
the header files.
My questions is what dir is it asking for? I have tried every dir from
the blackbox CVS build and any other dir that might have something to do
with blackbox. Where can I find what it is looking for.
The answer lies in 'configure.ac' in bbkeys. The '--with-bt-includes'
directive looks for the file 'Application.hh', so the directory you need
to give is the one where 'Application.hh' is located. Look around lines
140-150 in configure.ac to see what is going on.
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Re: compiling CVS bbkeys
On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 20:22, Art Haas wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2003 at 07:52:19PM -0400, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote:
er. my configure line looks like this:
./configure --enable-debug --prefix=$HOME/local/bbkeys
--with-bt-lib=$HOME/code/blackbox/lib
--with-bt-includes=$HOME/code/blackbox/lib
(all on one line)
blackbox doesn't yet install its headers or shared object anywhere. I'm
assuming it will before 0.70.0 is out, but for the time being, you'll
need to specify both of these directories.
Is the file 'Application.hh' in $HOME/code/blackbox/lib?
If it is and your configure script still isn't finding it you may want
to go in and add something like 'set -x' before the file tests begin.
You should get to see the configure script do its stuff and then that
may give some clue as to the source of your configure difficulties.
um. *blink* I'm not the guy who asked this originally. I'm the
author. =:) And yes, it's there and it works wonderfully. Sorry,
should have said lol.
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multi-head bbkeys
I must have deleted the original post to the ML (or I'm losing my mind)
wrt multi-head support in bbkeys. I believe the question was is it
possible and I believe I erroneously said not yet, but soon. I've
just looked at the code and the answer should have been it's currently
possible.
You must be using bbkeys from CVS to get this, and you must be using a
NETWM-compliant WM like kde3 or openbox2 (or possibly blackbox from
CVS). The action, astonishingly similar to epist, is nextscreen and
prevscreen, iirc.
Whomever it was that was asking, please give bbkeys from CVS a try. I'm
only waiting on blackbox 0.70.0 to release it--it's quite stable (I have
been running it every day for the last few months).
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| All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
| in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
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Re: bbpager for CVS (0.70)?
bbkeys has been re-written to use NET_WM. it also uses blackbox's lib. it's in the regular bbkeys module on sourceforge, if you want it. I've been using it only (instead of epist) for the last month or so. There are a couple of buglets still, but they only pop up once every couple of weeks and I've not yet had a chance to look into them. I've been using the new bbkeys with kwin too (disabled all of kde's keybindings), and it works perfectly.
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 08:51, Chris Grossmann wrote:
On February 07 (20:01 EST), Sean Perry wrote:
no, bbpager has not been rewritten yet.
Any netwm compliant pager should work.
This is what I figured. My problem seems to be finding
one..
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| All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
| in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
,
| bash$ :(){ :|:};:
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Re: Grabbing a screenshot of a specific workspace?
On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 09:44, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On Sunday 22 December 2002 22:17, Martin Egholm Nielsen wrote:
And when I do this, should I grab the 0.70, or would it work
any way later?
(and is the stickyness working in 0.70, cause then I've got
no argument for not changing...)
// Martin
sticky is very much *NOT* working in 0.70 at the moment.
Any ETA on when it will be? =:) And in other news, is that pesky job
still stealing your valuable blackbox-coding time? =:D
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| All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
| in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
,
| bash$ :(){ :|:};:
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bbkeys 0.8.6 released
re, all. This will be the last release of bbkeys for blackbox 0.65.x,
hopefully. I'm knee-deep in the complete rewrite of bbkeys, which is a
good thing, and all future versions will be written against blackbox
0.7x.x's shared library, which is a VERY good thing.
Anyway, I just realized that I had some bug-fixes in the CVS version of
bbkeys and figured I might as well make a release before the whole world
gets turned upside down. =:) As usual, get the little bugger from
http://bbkeys.sourceforge.net.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled program
version 0.8.6 --
- pulling patch in from David Dellanave (solaris compile issues)
[vanRijn]
- fixing compilation issue for Mac OS X (thanks to Thomas F. Burdick!!)
[vanRijn]
- fixing bug in token-parsing (thanks to Adam Hooper!!!)--we now allow
)'s in our ExecCommands. =:)
[vanRijn]
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| Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26
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| All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
| in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
,
| bash$ :(){ :|:};:
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Re: send window to workspace
Not possible yet. Hopefully it will be in the next release.
On Thu, 2002-10-31 at 16:55, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On Thursday 31 October 2002 13:14, Giuseppe Ciotta - wrote:
it it possible to send a window to a particular workspace with bbkeys
?
it should be possible however I do not see the option in bbconf.
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| All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
| in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
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Re: grow a xterm longer that screen?
bbkeys will let you keep growing the little bugger. =:) Just keep
pressing your VerticalIncrement keys
KeyToGrab(Down), WithModifier(Mod1+Control+Shift),
WithAction(VerticalIncrement)
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 12:53, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
On Thursday 10 October 2002 09:57, Jan Schaumann wrote:
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 10 October 2002 09:35, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
Is there any way to expand a xterm or rxvt window taller that a screen?
in Blackbox you are limited to the screen size.
Why?
-Jan
I take that back, it is X, not blackbox. You are unable to move the mouse
further than the screen edge so you are not able to resize/move a window
beyond it.
If you really want a gigantic window, use -geometry.
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Re: bbmenu, bbtoolbar, etc
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