Re: [BlindHandyMan] Posts and concrete.

[Jewel]

I use the cement mix where you just pour it into the hole.  It says on the 
instructions on the bags * here that you put the water in first and then 
pour the cement and agregate mix in.  When you put the water in the hole, 
you pour it down the * sides of the hole so that they are wet.
I always ram the cement, though I don't think that that is required.  It 
just makes me feel that the compacted cement will be stronger.
The concrete will set in a quarter to half an hour.

   Jewel

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Rossi" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Posts and concrete.


> Dale,
>
> Around here it is pretty standard to just stand a 4X4 up in the hole,
> dump in the dry cement and then pour water on it.  As a matter of fact,
> those are the instructions on some bags of ready mix.  I didn't believe it
> until Teresa read it to me, and I checked the quikcrete web site to
> confirm.
>
> That's not how I did my deck posts though.  I mixed the concrete first
> then poured full footers and sunk a J bolt in the top and bolted on a post
> bracket.
>
> I don't think the guy who did the previous deck really cared much.  There
> wasn't much concrete in the holes.  It was a ground level deck and a lot
> of the joists were sitting on the ground anyway.
>
>
>
> -- 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] palm nailer and copper tacks

[Dale Leavens]

I didn't see or at least I don't remember an answer.

I doubt though that you would have much luck with copper tacks and a palm 
nailer mostly because they are so soft. They are challenging to drive with a 
hammer. You might consider what I knew of when I was in England as a toffee 
hammer, it is a small hammer with a round head at one end and a sort of dull 
chipping chisel at the other end. I understand it was so named because 
confectioners used it to break off chunks of toffee for sale.

The small head makes hitting the small tacks easier and the reduced mass 
helps keep from crushing the soft copper nails.

I only ever used them years ago when helping one of my staff repair a cedar 
strip canoe. Although the nails were soft so was the cedar.


- Original Message - 
From: "Agent086b" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] palm nailer and copper tacks


> Hi all,
> sorry if I mist it. Was there an answer to this one?
> A further similar question. How do you all tell if your hand is straight
> when driving a nail with the palm nailer? I find I bend a nail quite easy.
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
> Lenny McHugh wrote:
>> We have a fairly heavy door mat that keeps being moved out of place. 
>> Since
>> outside I plan to use a few copper tacks to secure the mat. Since 
>> physically
>> I can no longer swing a hammer I thought about the palm nailer. Is there 
>> any
>> suggestions to keep the tack straight until the pounding starts? I 
>> thought
>> about using a cotton ball to hold the tack in the nailer.
>> I could also use 1/4 inch crown staples with the pneumatic stapler. The
>> problem here is that they would rust.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] palm nailer and copper tacks

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
sorry if I mist it. Was there an answer to this one?
A further similar question. How do you all tell if your hand is straight 
when driving a nail with the palm nailer? I find I bend a nail quite easy.
Thanks for any help.
Max.
Lenny McHugh wrote:
> We have a fairly heavy door mat that keeps being moved out of place. Since 
> outside I plan to use a few copper tacks to secure the mat. Since physically 
> I can no longer swing a hammer I thought about the palm nailer. Is there any 
> suggestions to keep the tack straight until the pounding starts? I thought 
> about using a cotton ball to hold the tack in the nailer.
> I could also use 1/4 inch crown staples with the pneumatic stapler. The 
> problem here is that they would rust.
> ---
> Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous 
> with many resources for the blind.
> http://www.lennymchugh.com
> Lenny
>
>
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[BlindHandyMan] Posts and concrete.

[Dan Rossi]

Dale,

Around here it is pretty standard to just stand a 4X4 up in the hole, 
dump in the dry cement and then pour water on it.  As a matter of fact, 
those are the instructions on some bags of ready mix.  I didn't believe it 
until Teresa read it to me, and I checked the quikcrete web site to 
confirm.

That's not how I did my deck posts though.  I mixed the concrete first 
then poured full footers and sunk a J bolt in the top and bolted on a post 
bracket.

I don't think the guy who did the previous deck really cared much.  There 
wasn't much concrete in the holes.  It was a ground level deck and a lot 
of the joists were sitting on the ground anyway.



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Carnegie Mellon University.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Ron Yearns]

PVC can crack and split, but only say that in open pipe.  Filled with concret 
should help.  I would be inclined to put about four half or five eights rebars 
in it..  The plastic will be much easier to handle that is sure.  You will need 
to mount some all thread in the top to attach the box with.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edward Przybylek 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:41 AM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


Hi Ron,

  You're right about the big box stores not carrying large diameter metal
  pipe. I called Home Depot and Lowes and the best they could do is a 6 foot
  length of metal pipe. Both places suggested going to a plumbing supply
  house. One gentleman suggested using a PVC pipe filled with concrete. He
  said he replaced his mailbox post with PVC and it's working out really well.
  Unless I hear some good reasons from the list not to take this approach, I'm
  planning on using his idea. Thanks.

  Take care,

  Ed

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Ron Yearns
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:46 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

  I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large. Plumbing supply
  will sell only in 21 foot length. I would suggest a section of rigid
  galvanized electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections. Costs less than
  plumbing pipe. Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in
  it I don't think it will bend any.. Anyway you could dig your hole drive the
  excess pipe down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then
  pour in the concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such.
  Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

  that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L

  On 
  Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote:
  > Hi all,
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like
  the
  > way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an
  > electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does
  > anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It
  > appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop
  > by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says
  > she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of
  > beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
  > Thanks, again, for all the information.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Take care,
  > 
  > Ed Przybylek
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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  > 

  -- 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Bob Kennedy]

In my case the plow was owned by the town.  They tried to take me to court but 
I went to the judge in charge of small claims before the date.  I showed him 
the papers and he laughed.  He wanted all the details on the post, I think he 
was considering one for his house too.

Now remember, I left Western New York in the early 80s.  Laws have gotten a lot 
stupider in 25 years so that my not still be true.  But I'd be sure to get the 
TV folks involved if a problem came up.  First thing I'd want is a blood 
alcohol level.  How much time between the incident and the reporting of the 
damage.  If you decide to build this way, and you hear someone clank off the 
post, make sure to report it to police right then.  This will set a time chain 
and they can see how long it takes the other guy to report the same thing.  The 
longer he waits the worse it is for him.  Leaving the scene of an accident and 
all.  

Also keep in mind, if a suit is brought against you for damage, you have that 
same right.  Labor and material to replace the post, especially if done by a 
professional can get pretty pricey.  That doesn't mean you have to have a 
professional install it now, just get an estimate to replace it in new 
condition.  

Check with the post office for their requirements.  They can tell you exactly 
how high they want the mail box, and how far from the road.  As long as those 
are met, I would say game on.  
- Original Message - 
From: Edward Przybylek 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


  Hi Bob,

What were the consequences of damaging the pipe? I just called Lowes and
spoke to someone about my project. He said he had to replace his post and
said he used 4 inch PVC pipe filled with concrete. At some point, someone
ran into the post and did some serious damage to their car. They took him
to court and his homeowner's insurance wound up paying for the damages. Was
this true in your case as well?

I'm thinking that a PVC pipe filled with concrete is a good way to go. It
won't rust or rot; it's easy to work with; it can be painted; and, the price
is right. Anyone have any reasons why this might not be the correct
approach? Thanks.

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:52 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

Ed,

The electric jack hammer will work fine. Soak the ground around the area
first and once you start hammering you might be able to pull out good sized
chunks when it breaks loose from the ground.

Knowing where you live and what the winters are like, you will understand
how I built my mail box post. I had a problem with plow drivers tagging
mine.

I had a power auger in the shop so for a road test, I drilled a 1 foot
diameter hole 4 feet deep. Then I took a piece of 4 inch sewer pipe and
centered it in the hole. I filled the rest of the hole with concrete, cut
off the pipe at the right height and filled the inside of the pipe with the
rest of the concrete. I had to use a couple of the large muffler clamps,
actually they fit a rear axle, and clamped the mail box bracket to the pipe.

First time a plow hit my new mail box, I lost the mail box but it snapped
the support arm on the plow as well. Sounded like a bomb going off when they
hit. 

I think this would do a reasonable amount of damage to a car or pickup truck
as well. You may lose the box if it is hit, but the post will defend your
property and you'll feel better knowing who ran into your mail box. 

- Original Message - 
From: Edward Przybylek 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com  
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

Hi all,

For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard
has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4
piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The
first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears
that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage
to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time
it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions
as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a
reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything
better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric
jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
p

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Bob Kennedy]

Ed,  Anyone of the big box stores carries sewer pipe.  Most often it is PVC but 
I think if you fill it with concrete, and drop in a couple rebars it can stand 
up.  

For cast iron you'll probably have to go to a plumbing supply store.
- Original Message - 
From: Edward Przybylek 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:59 AM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


  Hi all,

Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the
way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an
electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does
anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It
appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop
by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says
she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of
beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
Thanks, again, for all the information.

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox alarms

[Dale Leavens]

It is the  chemistry which slows down, mostly the chemistry in the batteries 
but probably in any transistors or diodes too. The opposite happens with 
extreme heat, a transistor radio will begin to howel and shriek when it gets 
too hot in the sun. Well they used to anyway, I don't hear that so often now.

This is one main reason why cars don't start so well in the very cold too. the 
battery just does not generate as much power. If you turn on the lights for a 
couple of minutes then turn them off and try starting the battery will usually 
generate a larger charge because of the warmth created by the internal 
resistance of the battery. Of course cold stiff oil and grease will also add to 
the load on the starter.

I tried using a wireless doorbell as a locater one winter on the Hospital sign 
post which is located on a corner but a long way from anything to be used as a 
landmark and of course with the changing landscape resulting from snow removal 
it was and remains sometimes difficult to locate. At 40 below the bell would 
sound continuously until the batttery died which apparently attracted the 
concern of neighbours so it had to come down. I am guessing the failure here 
was the threshold charge required to trigger some of the logic in the device.


  - Original Message - 
  From: jim 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox alarms


hi tom
  i have a mail box alarm.
  it does work pretty good except when it gets very cold.
  in the 20 below range.
  i don't know why they say when its colder the resistance goes down in 
electronics.
  maybe the radio waves freeze grin.
  Jim

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox alarms

[jim]

yep tom, you are right
hmmm lazy battery syndrome go figure.
Jim


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Jewel]

In New Zealand, the urban post people are very choosy, andpernickety about 
where they deliver the mail, but the drivers who service the rual areas are 
very good.  When the farmer/rual dweller has mail to send, a flag is raised 
and the van driver collects and delivers it to the bbase post office.

Jewel
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Fowle" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


> Where I live, in unincorporated Alameda county CA. mail is delivered to a 
> slot
> in the wall by my front door.  Very good.  However sending mail
> is getting hard. Street side post boxes are nearly gone, and the post 
> office
> is a mile and a half away.  I most often just take things to work where we
> have a nice mail room and a very helpfull young lady who will stick
> stuff in the outgoing for us.
>
> The post office claims you can leave outgoing mail clipped to the slot 
> cover,
> but you may as well hand it to the local gang member  as leave it out 
> side.
>
> Speaking of rural mail boxes though, somewhere here we have a gizmo
> with a small transmitter that you put in the far off
> mail box.  There is a receiver you put where you can hear it.  Somehow, 
> and
> it may be light activated, when the mail box is opened, the receiver 
> beeps.
>
> Never seemed to work very reliably when informally tested here in the lab.
>
>
> Tom Fowle
>
>
>
> 
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[BlindHandyMan] Recall: Ridgid Table Saws Sold Exclusively at Home Depot Recalled by One World Technologies Due to Laceration Hazard

[Betsy Whitney]

Sorry, this came out on August 19th. I was gone for a couple of days 
and had 279 emails when I returned.

Ridgid Table Saws Sold Exclusively at Home Depot Recalled by One 
World Technologies Due to Laceration Hazard

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in 
cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary 
recall of the following
consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products 
immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: Ridgid 10-inch Table Saws

Units: About 3,000

Distributor: One World Technologies Inc., of Anderson, S.C.

Hazard: The table saw's arbor shaft can fail when used with a stacked 
blade set (commonly known as a "stacked dado set"), which is used to 
cut grooves.
The stacked blade set can be ejected from the saw, posing a potential 
laceration hazard to consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: One World Technologies has received three reports 
of shafts failing when used with a stacked dado set. No injuries have 
been reported.

Description: This recall involves Ridgid 10-inch table saws, model 
R4511. The recalled saws have manufacturing date codes between CD0829 
and CD0837. The
model number and manufacturing date code are located on a metal plate 
on the rear of the cabinet. Products with an "Arbor Inspected" 
sticker directly above
the plate or an orange square on the outside of the package are not 
included in the recall.

Sold exclusively at: Home Depot stores nationwide from January 2009 
through July 2009 for about $600.

Manufactured in: China

Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using the recalled table 
saw and contact One World Technologies to schedule a free on-site repair.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact One World 
Technologies toll-free at (866) 539-1710 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. ET 
Monday through Friday
or visit
www.ridgid.com

To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including a picture of the 
recalled product, please go to:

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09311.html

Teamwork: Together we achieve the extraordinary.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox alarms

[Tom Fowle]

Jim,
Batteries get lazy when cold. Don't we all?
Often voltage drops signifficantly.

Assuming there is a battery in the box that'll do it.

Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Joy Cyr]

Dale, ... you've got it absolutely right  Our whole town doesn't get mail 
delivery either, and we aren't as isolated as you are.  And what I find truly 
annoying is that everyone who lives outside of the town limits does get their 
mail brought to their door.  

Doesn't matter what we are paying in taxes or stamps (and my business is mainly 
mail order, do you think the current shipping costs help?  I've had orders 
cancelled because shipping it was twice the cost of the items being purchased!) 
 you do not dictate Canada Post's policies.

Joy

Please take a few moments to browse and enjoy
my original artwork at:
www.tigerfeathers.ca
- Original Message - 
From: Dale Leavens 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


  Victor!

We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail dropped in 
a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry to a 
subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost exactly the same 
as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for granted that I have to 
pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with 
luck the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds.

Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to collect 
our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as you do. We pay 
more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about everything else so to that 
extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to 
take a cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife?

You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it.

- Original Message - 
From: Victor 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

Hi Dale,

If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get 
your mail delivered.

When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county 
that you agree to abide by their rules and policies.

In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent 
consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and 
the like.

I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to 
trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll 
bet the majority of them would say no.

Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post 
services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts 
to paying someone to do something for you.

Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you 
were paying them to deliver it?

I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those 
rights include managing your mail.

If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then 
they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when 
you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for 
mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits 
they get?

Happy about it indeed.

Victor 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Sex Discrimination

[Jewel]

Willamina might be an even better disguise.

   Jewel
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Gallik" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Sex Discrimination


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox alarms

[jim]

hi tom
i have a mail box alarm.
it does work pretty good except when it gets very cold.
in the 20 below range.
i don't know why they say when its colder the resistance goes down in 
electronics.
maybe the radio waves freeze grin.
Jim


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Tom Fowle]

Where I live, in unincorporated Alameda county CA. mail is delivered to a slot
in the wall by my front door.  Very good.  However sending mail
is getting hard. Street side post boxes are nearly gone, and the post office
is a mile and a half away.  I most often just take things to work where we
have a nice mail room and a very helpfull young lady who will stick
stuff in the outgoing for us.

The post office claims you can leave outgoing mail clipped to the slot cover,
but you may as well hand it to the local gang member  as leave it out side.

Speaking of rural mail boxes though, somewhere here we have a gizmo
with a small transmitter that you put in the far off
mail box.  There is a receiver you put where you can hear it.  Somehow, and
it may be light activated, when the mail box is opened, the receiver beeps.

Never seemed to work very reliably when informally tested here in the lab.


Tom Fowle

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Dale Leavens]

We have the same issues here in Canada. Even in some major cities, one daughter 
living in Calgary collects her mail from a box in a shelter in the middle of 
their subdivision. Most of the city has door delivery but not all.

We used to get general delivery for free and you would rent a box in the post 
office but some changes to the regulations have meant we now have a minimal box 
free, extra for a larger one say for business or even a private bag. Our 
hospital uses a private bag, we pick it up and return an empty one in it's 
place.

My son in London and my other daughter in Lindsay get door delivery, we used to 
have it in Dawson Creek and in Chatham. 

The world does not guarantee equity for all and sometimes we forget that it 
doesn't owe any of us anything.


  - Original Message - 
  From: wstep...@everestkc.net 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


Dale: When I lived in East Central Kansas for a while, we had a mailbox 
where a section road intersected a blacktop road, and it was mounted on what 
probably was a fence post. It was a convenient target for kids with .22s and 
air rifles, and had to be replaced pretty frequently.
  I'm not sure what determines whether someone in a rural area gets mail 
delivered or not. I've lived in a couple small towns where if you wanted mail 
you rented a box from the Postal Service. The Post Office in the US is a 
quasi-government corporation, which means they do get subsidized significantly. 
Because they've been losing tremendous amounts of money for years, attempts are 
underway to close a lot of post offices. It's a problem for a lot of places, 
because nobody wants their particfular post office to close down. 

  Bill Stephan 
  Kansas Citty MO 
  Email: wstep...@everestkc.net 
  Phone: (816)803-2469

  - Original Message -
  From: Dale Leavens 
  Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:23 pm
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
  > Victor! 
  > 
  > We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their 
  > mail dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or 
  > at the entry to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. 
  > Our stamps cost exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the 
  > services you take for granted that I have to pay for. I could 
  > stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with luck 
  > the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds. 
  > 
  > Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever 
  > else to collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same 
  > federal taxes as you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and 
  > eggs and just about everything else so to that extent we pay more 
  > taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a 
  > cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife? 
  > 
  > You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it. 
  > 
  > 
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Victor 
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM 
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post 
  > 
  > 
  > Hi Dale, 
  > 
  > If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to 
  > how you get 
  > your mail delivered. 
  > 
  > When you live in a particular county, you are essentially 
  > telling the county 
  > that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. 
  > 
  > In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving 
  > them silent 
  > consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall 
  > meetings and 
  > the like. 
  > 
  > I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed 
  > having to 
  > trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post 
  > office, I'll 
  > bet the majority of them would say no. 
  > 
  > Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay 
  > for post 
  > services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of 
  > that amounts 
  > to paying someone to do something for you. 
  > 
  > Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza 
  > parlour if you 
  > were paying them to deliver it? 
  > 
  > I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, 
  > and those 
  > rights include managing your mail. 
  > 
  > If the government is going to take responsibility for mail 
  > delivery, then 
  > they should be responsible for how they get it to you, 
  > especially when 
  > you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having 
  > it cheap for 
  > mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and 
  > the benefits 
  > they get? 
  > 
  > Happy about it indeed. 
  > 
  > Victor 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
  > 
  > 


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[wstephan]

Dale:  When I lived in East Central Kansas for a while, we had a mailbox where 
a section road intersected a blacktop road, and it was mounted on what probably 
was a fence post.  It was a convenient target for kids with .22s and air 
rifles, and had to be replaced pretty frequently.
I'm not sure what determines whether someone in a rural area gets mail 
delivered or not.  I've lived in a couple small towns where if you wanted mail 
you rented a box from the Postal Service.  The Post Office in the US is  a 
quasi-government corporation, which means they do get subsidized significantly. 
 Because they've been losing tremendous amounts of money for years, attempts 
are underway to close a lot of post offices.  It's a problem for a lot of 
places, because nobody wants their particfular post office to close down.  


Bill Stephan 
Kansas Citty MO 
Email: wstep...@everestkc.net 
Phone: (816)803-2469


- Original Message -
From: Dale Leavens 
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
> Victor! 
> 
> We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their 
> mail dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or 
> at the entry to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. 
> Our stamps cost exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the 
> services you take for granted that I have to pay for. I could 
> stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with luck 
> the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds. 
> 
> Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever 
> else to collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same 
> federal taxes as you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and 
> eggs and just about everything else so to that extent we pay more 
> taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a 
> cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife? 
> 
> You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it. 
> 
> 
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Victor 
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM 
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post 
> 
> 
>Hi Dale, 
> 
>  If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to 
> how you get 
>  your mail delivered. 
> 
>  When you live in a particular county, you are essentially 
> telling the county 
>  that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. 
> 
>  In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving 
> them silent 
>  consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall 
> meetings and 
>  the like. 
> 
>  I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed 
> having to 
>  trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post 
> office, I'll 
>  bet the majority of them would say no. 
> 
>  Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay 
> for post 
>  services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of 
> that amounts 
>  to paying someone to do something for you. 
> 
>  Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza 
> parlour if you 
>  were paying them to deliver it? 
> 
>  I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, 
> and those 
>  rights include managing your mail. 
> 
>  If the government is going to take responsibility for mail 
> delivery, then 
>  they should be responsible for how they get it to you, 
> especially when 
>  you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having 
> it cheap for 
>  mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and 
> the benefits 
>  they get? 
> 
>  Happy about it indeed. 
> 
>  Victor 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> 
> 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[allen dunbar]

oh wow we take the smallest things for granted in this country this really 
puts our complaints in prospective I have to walk less than  a hundred yards 
to collect my mail and I complain if it is raining no more thanks dale for 
bringing this really home take care

Allen
- Original Message - 
From: "Dale Leavens" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


> Victor!
>
> We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail 
> dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry 
> to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost 
> exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for 
> granted that I have to pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I 
> like around here and with luck the only thing it would get put in it would 
> be a family of birds.
>
> Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to 
> collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as 
> you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about 
> everything else so to that extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month 
> Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a cab would cost $120 each way, what 
> would it cost your wife?
>
> You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it.
>
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Victor
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
>
>
>Hi Dale,
>
>  If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you 
> get
>  your mail delivered.
>
>  When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the 
> county
>  that you agree to abide by their rules and policies.
>
>  In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them 
> silent
>  consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and
>  the like.
>
>  I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to
>  trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll
>  bet the majority of them would say no.
>
>  Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post
>  services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that 
> amounts
>  to paying someone to do something for you.
>
>  Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you
>  were paying them to deliver it?
>
>  I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those
>  rights include managing your mail.
>
>  If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then
>  they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when
>  you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap 
> for
>  mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the 
> benefits
>  they get?
>
>  Happy about it indeed.
>
>  Victor
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Dale Leavens]

Victor!

We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail dropped in 
a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry to a 
subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost exactly the same 
as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for granted that I have to 
pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with 
luck the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds.

Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to collect 
our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as you do. We pay 
more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about everything else so to that 
extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to 
take a cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife?

You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


Hi Dale,

  If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get 
  your mail delivered.

  When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county 
  that you agree to abide by their rules and policies.

  In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent 
  consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and 
  the like.

  I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to 
  trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll 
  bet the majority of them would say no.

  Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post 
  services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts 
  to paying someone to do something for you.

  Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you 
  were paying them to deliver it?

  I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those 
  rights include managing your mail.

  If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then 
  they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when 
  you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for 
  mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits 
  they get?

  Happy about it indeed.

  Victor 



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Dale Leavens]

Canada Post rules are probably different to the U.S. Postal service too.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


Victor,
  Please don't shoot this messenger. Someone asked if I would ask my 
  postal carrier about mailbox installation, and since I was on the 
  USPS site looking for something, I just copied what was there. Just 
  because I sent the information, doesn't mean that i agree with the policy.
  Betsy
  At 09:04 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
  >
  >
  >I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put
  >down my own property.
  >
  >I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail.
  >
  >They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go.
  >
  >I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier
  >by installing a curb side mail box or not.
  >
  >If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the
  >mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and
  >so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible
  >location.
  >
  > From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour
  >by delivering my mail to me.
  >
  >Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here.
  >
  >Victor
  >
  >

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Lee A. Stone]

Victor in the United States of America, yes the post office can and does 
dictate whee and how you will have a mailbox.  case in point. I know my 
mailman and  on a rare occasion he brings something to my door but only 
if I have  something to sign for or a" c o d". and when my garbage pail 
is in the wa of the mailbox he does not stop. he has  a postal inspector  
from time to time follow him and others away. what  a way of taxpayers 
dollars but believe me yu  do it their way or no mail  is delivered and 
then they will mail you a notice of same said. Lee



-- 
Never trust anyone who says money is no object.
.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Victor]

Hi Dale,

If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get 
your mail delivered.

When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county 
that you agree to abide by their rules and policies.

In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent 
consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and 
the like.

I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to 
trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll 
bet the majority of them would say no.

Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post 
services.  The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts 
to paying someone to do something for you.

Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you 
were paying them to deliver it?

I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those 
rights include managing your mail.

If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then 
they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when 
you're paying for it.  Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for 
mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits 
they get?

Happy about it indeed.

Victor 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Betsy Whitney]

No problem, and thanks,
Betsy
At 10:06 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi Betsy,
>
>I'm sorry, I didn't mean to give you the impression that I was angry at you
>dear, I was just trying to convey my sentiments at someone telling me what I
>can and can't do with my own property. Sorry for the miscommunication.
>Smiles.
>
>Victor
>
>


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Victor]

Hi Betsy,

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to give you the impression that I was angry at you 
dear, I was just trying to convey my sentiments at someone telling me what I 
can and can't do with my own property.  Sorry for the miscommunication. 
Smiles.

Victor 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Philip Theron]

Hi is this because of bad driving, I did not think that you had that kind 
of problem there, I have a outside mail box, but no body ever tried his car's 
nose against it, and at my business I have a post box at the post office. 
Philip Theron
Piano tuner
Piano Music House
Tel.:  [021] 948 6995
Cell:  [083] 635 6349
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put 
  down my own property.

  I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail.

  They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go.

  I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier 
  by installing a curb side mail box or not.

  If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the 
  mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and 
  so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible 
  location.

  From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour 
  by delivering my mail to me.

  Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here.

  Victor 



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[contactme]

Thanks for looking this up.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post




  This is what I found on the
  http://www.USPS.com

  website.
  It seems to me that there are more rules, but I didn't see them. 
  Perhaps a call to the post office would be helpful. I think their 
  tollfree number is:
  800-275-8777

  Postal policies for curbside mailboxes

  Installation of curbside mailboxes must meet specific construction 
  standards, which can be obtained from the local Post Office facility. 
  For United States Postal Service STD-7, Mailboxes, City and Rural 
  Curbside you may write to:

  Delivery & Customer SVCS Equipment, Engineering, US Postal Service
  8403 Lee HWY
  Merrifield VA 22082-8101

  The following are a few of the regulations that apply when installing 
  a curbside mailbox:
  * Important: Before installing, moving or replacing your mailbox 
  or mailbox support, you will need to contact your local Post Office.
  * All mailboxes must be approved by the Postal Service.
  * Custom made mailboxes will be approved by the Postmaster if 
  they meet established standards.
  * Name put on box should be at least one inch high.
  * Generally, the boxes should be installed with the bottom of the 
  box at a vertical height of between 41-45 inches from the road surface.

  At 06:26 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
  >
  >
  >Well, that is one myth I am glad to get cleared up. Will you get 
  >clarification from your postperson, on what constitutes proper 
  >placement of a mailbox post on ones property?
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:59 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
  >
  >According to my friend who is a postperson, that is absurd as long as
  >your mailbox post is properly placed on your property. She said the
  >property owner is not responsible for postal employees who drive
  >incorrectly. It isn't any different than if anyone else drives into
  >your post and damages their vehicle.
  >
  >At 04:24 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
  > >
  > >
  > >I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box
  > >structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and
  > >possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held
  > >liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property.
  > >
  > >Does any one know if there is any truth to this?
  > >
  > >- Original Message -
  > >From: Edward Przybylek
  > >To: 
  > 
blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > >Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM
  > >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
  > >
  > >Hi all,
  > >
  > >For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty 
bastard
  > >has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4
  > >piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The
  > >first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
  > >was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears
  > >that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
  > >through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage
  > >to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time
  > >it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
  > >won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions
  > >as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a
  > >reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything
  > >better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
  > >will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric
  > >jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
  > >putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
  > >broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this
  > >with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
  > >greatly appreciated.
  > >
  > >Thanks,
  > >
  > >Ed Przybylek
  > >
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[BlindHandyMan] mailboxes

[jim]

well i did just that and called my local post master.
he told me that there was nothing he was aware of regarding how stout a post 
can be made.
now if someone wants to call there insurance company and ask them have at it
Jim in Minnesota


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[contactme]

Victor,

No need to get in a huff about this specific situation. I believe there is an 
easement along the boarder of all privately owned property witch utility 
companies and probably other companies have jurisdiction and you have to abide 
to regulations regarding management of that easement.

Power poll, sewer access, signs, water mains and many other things can be 
placed along your property and you have no say-so. This is just another 
instance fitting that situation.

Take a chill-pill. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put 
  down my own property.

  I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail.

  They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go.

  I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier 
  by installing a curb side mail box or not.

  If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the 
  mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and 
  so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible 
  location.

  From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour 
  by delivering my mail to me.

  Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here.

  Victor 



  


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[Dale Leavens]

That is absurd!

Many hundreds of thousands of people do not have any mail delivery. You city 
folk with your subway trains and busses and big box stores don't have a clue!

We walk to the post office to collect our mail and we like it.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put 
  down my own property.

  I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail.

  They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go.

  I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier 
  by installing a curb side mail box or not.

  If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the 
  mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and 
  so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible 
  location.

  From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour 
  by delivering my mail to me.

  Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here.

  Victor 



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Dale Leavens]

Believe me, there is no such thing as a good excuse for playing around with a 
jack hammer.

I don't know why your posts broke out so easily, must have been very poor 
concrete. With age it tends to get harder particularly in a moist environment.

Setting wood posts in concrete though doesn't sound too sound to me, water and 
rot and all that.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Rossi 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


Ed,

  Two things to tell you. The metal pipe sounds like a good idea, and 
  easier than what I am about to tell you. My cousin's neighbor kept 
  getting his mailbox run down, so one day he went out, set up forms for a 
  cement post about a foot or so square and the proper height for a mailbox. 
  So he had a solid concrete post. No one ran over his mailbox after that.

  Second thing. When I ripped out the old deck in my yard, the 4X4 posts 
  had been set in the traditional way. Dig a hole, stand the post up, dump 
  in dry concrete, and pour water in. When I removed the deck, all I needed 
  to do was wack the hell out of the 4X4 posts at the bottom, with a sledge 
  hammer and for the most part, the concrete broke apart in several chunks. 
  I just had to dig them up and pull them out in nice big pieces. No jack 
  hammering was necessary.

  so, you may want to try a few good wacks with a sledge before renting a 
  jack hammer. although, it is a good excuse for playing with a jack 
  hammer.

  -- 
  Blue skies.
  Dan Rossi
  Carnegie Mellon University.
  E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
  Tel: (412) 268-9081


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Betsy Whitney]

Victor,
Please don't shoot this messenger. Someone asked if I would ask my 
postal carrier about mailbox installation, and since I was on the 
USPS site looking for something, I just copied what was there. Just 
because I sent the information, doesn't mean that i agree with the policy.
Betsy
At 09:04 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put
>down my own property.
>
>I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail.
>
>They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go.
>
>I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier
>by installing a curb side mail box or not.
>
>If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the
>mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and
>so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible
>location.
>
> From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour
>by delivering my mail to me.
>
>Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here.
>
>Victor
>
>


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Victor]

I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put 
down my own property.

I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail.

They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go.

I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier 
by installing a curb side mail box or not.

If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the 
mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and 
so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible 
location.

>From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour 
by delivering my mail to me.

Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here.

Victor 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Betsy Whitney]

This is what I found on the
http://www.USPS.com

website.
It seems to me that there are more rules, but I didn't see them. 
Perhaps a call to the post office would be helpful. I think their 
tollfree number is:
800-275-8777

Postal policies for curbside mailboxes

Installation of curbside mailboxes must meet specific construction 
standards, which can be obtained from the local Post Office facility. 
For United States Postal Service STD-7, Mailboxes, City and Rural 
Curbside you may write to:

Delivery & Customer SVCS Equipment, Engineering, US Postal Service
8403 Lee HWY
Merrifield VA 22082-8101

The following are a few of the regulations that apply when installing 
a curbside mailbox:
* Important: Before installing, moving or replacing your mailbox 
or mailbox support, you will need to contact your local Post Office.
* All mailboxes must be approved by the Postal Service.
* Custom made mailboxes will be approved by the Postmaster if 
they meet established standards.
* Name put on box should be at least one inch high.
* Generally, the boxes should be installed with the bottom of the 
box at a vertical height of between 41-45 inches from the road surface.

At 06:26 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>
>
>Well, that is one myth I am glad to get cleared up. Will you get 
>clarification from your postperson, on what constitutes proper 
>placement of a mailbox post on ones property?
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Betsy Whitney
>To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
>
>According to my friend who is a postperson, that is absurd as long as
>your mailbox post is properly placed on your property. She said the
>property owner is not responsible for postal employees who drive
>incorrectly. It isn't any different than if anyone else drives into
>your post and damages their vehicle.
>
>At 04:24 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box
> >structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and
> >possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held
> >liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property.
> >
> >Does any one know if there is any truth to this?
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Edward Przybylek
> >To: 
> blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM
> >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard
> >has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4
> >piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The
> >first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
> >was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears
> >that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
> >through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage
> >to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time
> >it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
> >won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions
> >as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a
> >reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything
> >better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
> >will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric
> >jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
> >putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
> >broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this
> >with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
> >greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Ed Przybylek
> >
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi Ron,

 

You're right about the big box stores not carrying large diameter metal
pipe.  I called Home Depot and Lowes and the best they could do is a 6 foot
length of metal pipe.  Both places suggested going to a plumbing supply
house.  One gentleman suggested using a PVC pipe filled with concrete.  He
said he replaced his mailbox post with PVC and it's working out really well.
Unless I hear some good reasons from the list not to take this approach, I'm
planning on using his idea.  Thanks.

 

Take care,

Ed

 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Ron Yearns
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:46 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

 

  

I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large. Plumbing supply
will sell only in 21 foot length. I would suggest a section of rigid
galvanized electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections. Costs less than
plumbing pipe. Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in
it I don't think it will bend any.. Anyway you could dig your hole drive the
excess pipe down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then
pour in the concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such.
Ron
- Original Message - 
From: Lee A. Stone 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L

On 
Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like
the
> way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an
> electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does
> anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It
> appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop
> by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says
> she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of
> beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
> Thanks, again, for all the information.
> 
> 
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Ed Przybylek
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 

-- 
Never trust anyone who says money is no object.
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[contactme]

Well,

in the roomer I heard it was a mailbox built with a brick enclosure that was 
the culprit that caused the law suit.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Howell 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


If there is I want that law changed. That would be completely stupid 
  considering if the idiot driver was driving properly, other than a 
  medical issue, then they deserve to have their vehicle damaged for 
  hitting the mailbox. If it were me, I'd get a solid steel post with 
  some nice sleeve that looks like wood to cover the outside and see how 
  they like that. I once saw where someone built a brick enclosure 
  around their mailbox post and seem to me they must have had the same 
  problem.

  Good luck,

  On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:24 PM,  
 wrote:

  > I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box 
  > structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and 
  > possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held 
  > liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property.
  >
  > Does any one know if there is any truth to this?
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: Edward Przybylek
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
  >
  > Hi all,
  >
  > For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty 
  > bastard
  > has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4- 
  > by-4
  > piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the 
  > ground. The
  > first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third 
  > time
  > was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It 
  > appears
  > that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what 
  > drives
  > through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of 
  > damage
  > to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This 
  > time
  > it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
  > won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any 
  > suggestions
  > as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up 
  > for a
  > reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there 
  > anything
  > better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post 
  > that
  > will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an 
  > electric
  > jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? 
  > Before
  > putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have 
  > to be
  > broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do 
  > this
  > with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
  > greatly appreciated.
  >
  > Thanks,
  >
  > Ed Przybylek
  >
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi Bob,

 

What were the consequences of damaging the pipe?  I just called Lowes and
spoke to someone about my project.  He said he had to replace his post and
said he used 4 inch PVC pipe filled with concrete.  At some point, someone
ran into the post and did some serious damage to their car.  They took him
to court and his homeowner's insurance wound up paying for the damages.  Was
this true in your case as well?

 

I'm thinking that a PVC pipe filled with concrete is a good way to go.  It
won't rust or rot; it's easy to work with; it can be painted; and, the price
is right.  Anyone have any reasons why this might not be the correct
approach?  Thanks.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:52 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

 

  

Ed,

The electric jack hammer will work fine. Soak the ground around the area
first and once you start hammering you might be able to pull out good sized
chunks when it breaks loose from the ground.

Knowing where you live and what the winters are like, you will understand
how I built my mail box post. I had a problem with plow drivers tagging
mine.

I had a power auger in the shop so for a road test, I drilled a 1 foot
diameter hole 4 feet deep. Then I took a piece of 4 inch sewer pipe and
centered it in the hole. I filled the rest of the hole with concrete, cut
off the pipe at the right height and filled the inside of the pipe with the
rest of the concrete. I had to use a couple of the large muffler clamps,
actually they fit a rear axle, and clamped the mail box bracket to the pipe.


First time a plow hit my new mail box, I lost the mail box but it snapped
the support arm on the plow as well. Sounded like a bomb going off when they
hit. 

I think this would do a reasonable amount of damage to a car or pickup truck
as well. You may lose the box if it is hit, but the post will defend your
property and you'll feel better knowing who ran into your mail box. 

- Original Message - 
From: Edward Przybylek 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com   
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

Hi all,

For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard
has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4
piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The
first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears
that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage
to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time
it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions
as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a
reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything
better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric
jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this
with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ed Przybylek

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[contactme]

Well, that is one myth I am glad to get cleared up. Will you get clarification 
from your postperson, on what constitutes proper placement of a mailbox post on 
ones property?



  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


According to my friend who is a postperson, that is absurd as long as 
  your mailbox post is properly placed on your property. She said the 
  property owner is not responsible for postal employees who drive 
  incorrectly. It isn't any different than if anyone else drives into 
  your post and damages their vehicle.

  At 04:24 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  >
  >I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box 
  >structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and 
  >possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held 
  >liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property.
  >
  >Does any one know if there is any truth to this?
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Edward Przybylek
  >To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM
  >Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
  >
  >Hi all,
  >
  >For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard
  >has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4
  >piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The
  >first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
  >was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears
  >that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
  >through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage
  >to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time
  >it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
  >won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions
  >as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a
  >reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything
  >better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
  >will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric
  >jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
  >putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
  >broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this
  >with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
  >greatly appreciated.
  >
  >Thanks,
  >
  >Ed Przybylek
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Breeze]

how about schedule 40 plastic pipe, the harry homeowner stores cary it.

Breeze

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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Ron Yearns wrote:

> I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large.  Plumbing supply 
> will sell only in 21 foot length.  I would suggest a  section of rigid 
> galvanized electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections.  Costs less than 
> plumbing  pipe.  Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in 
> it I don't think it will bend any..  Anyway you could dig your hole drive the 
> excess pipe down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then 
> pour in the concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such.
> Ron
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Lee A. Stone
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
>
>
>
>  that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L
>
>  On
>  Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the
>  > way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an
>  > electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does
>  > anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It
>  > appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop
>  > by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says
>  > she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of
>  > beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
>  > Thanks, again, for all the information.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Take care,
>  >
>  > Ed Przybylek
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Ron Yearns]

I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large.  Plumbing supply will 
sell only in 21 foot length.  I would suggest a  section of rigid galvanized 
electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections.  Costs less than plumbing  
pipe.  Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in it I don't 
think it will bend any..  Anyway you could dig your hole drive the excess pipe 
down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then pour in the 
concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee A. Stone 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post



  that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L

  On 
  Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote:
  > Hi all,
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the
  > way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an
  > electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does
  > anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It
  > appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop
  > by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says
  > she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of
  > beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
  > Thanks, again, for all the information.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Take care,
  > 
  > Ed Przybylek
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
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  > 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[chiliblindman]

Ed, You could just put a section of pipe in the ground.  That would be easy to 
work with and replace.  Get a pipe that is threaded on one end and put a 
coupling on it and pound it into the ground.  Remove the coupling and turn on a 
flange with bolt holes to fasten the mail box.  Put nice reflective tape in 
alternating rings up the post for visibility.
...bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Brice]

How big of an area is this concrete you want to bust up with a Jack Hammer? 
You may be able to dig around the concrete a little, and either bust it with 
a good size sledge hammer, or with a few buddies, lift it out.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


>
> that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L
>
>
> On
> Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts.  It sounds like 
>> the
>> way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete.  It also sounds like 
>> an
>> electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete.  Does
>> anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? 
>> It
>> appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. 
>> Stop
>> by if you're in the neighborhood.  Bring old clothes.  My wife, Vickie, 
>> says
>> she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full 
>> of
>> beer in the basement.  Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
>> Thanks, again, for all the information.
>>
>>
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Ed Przybylek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Lee A. Stone]

that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L


On 
Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts.  It sounds like the
> way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete.  It also sounds like an
> electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete.  Does
> anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe?  It
> appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post.  Stop
> by if you're in the neighborhood.  Bring old clothes.  My wife, Vickie, says
> she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of
> beer in the basement.  Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
> Thanks, again, for all the information.
> 
>  
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Ed Przybylek
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Brice]

Not only would I put a 4 inch pipe filled with concrete, I'd also incase the 
pipe with concrete the height of a bumper.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jewel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


> One of our handypersons was sick and tired of his mailbox being knocked 
> down
> by the snowplow, so I think what he did was to concrete in a steel pipe of
> fairly respectable  diameter 4 inch?  and fill the pipe with concrete as
> well.
> The next time it was attacked by the plough, it stood unscarred while the
> plough lost its blade, or had it bent and buckled anyway!
>
> Jewel
>
>  Original Message - 
> From: "Edward Przybylek" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:07 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty
>> bastard
>> has run into and broken the post under my mailbox.  The post was a 4-by-4
>> piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. 
>> The
>> first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
>> was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal.  It 
>> appears
>> that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
>> through the neighborhood.  I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of
>> damage
>> to a car's bumper.  It's time to get serious about this matter.  This 
>> time
>> it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort.  One, that next time,
>> won't be the only thing left with damage.  Does anyone have any
>> suggestions
>> as to the type of metal post I should use?  Do steel posts hold up for a
>> reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground?  Is there
>> anything
>> better?  Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
>> will extend it's life in the ground?  Also, has anyone ever used an
>> electric
>> jackhammer?  Do they work reasonably well?  Are they tough to use? 
>> Before
>> putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
>> broken up and removed to get ready for a new post.  I'm hoping to do this
>> with an electric jackhammer.  Lots of questions, I know.  Any help is
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed Przybylek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Brice]

I'd say it's B S!
- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


>I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy  mail box 
>structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly 
>injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage 
>and or injury to person and persons property.
>
> Does any one know if there is any truth to this?
>
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Edward Przybylek
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM
>  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>  For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty 
> bastard
>  has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4
>  piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The
>  first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
>  was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears
>  that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
>  through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of 
> damage
>  to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time
>  it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
>  won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any 
> suggestions
>  as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a
>  reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there 
> anything
>  better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
>  will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an 
> electric
>  jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
>  putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
>  broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this
>  with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
>  greatly appreciated.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Ed Przybylek
>
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Score one for D I Y

[Dan Rossi]

Lee,

We used www.partselect.com to find the part for our washer.  I can't even 
remember what our washing machine is, we didn't buy it, it came with the 
house and is at least 15 years old, probably older.

Our friends have a Bosch front loader and they absolutely love it.

When we purchase a new washer next year, we are definitely going to get a 
front loader.  I like the idea that they use a lot less water.

I always look through www.ConsumerReports.org but have had mixed results. 
Sometimes you can't find the exact model they recommend and the models 
that you can find are one's they slammed.  But at least it is something to 
go by.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Dan Rossi]

Ed,

Two things to tell you.  The metal pipe sounds like a good idea, and 
easier than what I am about to tell you.  My cousin's neighbor kept 
getting his mailbox run down, so one day he went out, set up forms for a 
cement post about a foot or so square and the proper height for a mailbox. 
So he had a solid concrete post.  No one ran over his mailbox after that.

Second thing.  When I ripped out the old deck in my yard, the 4X4 posts 
had been set in the traditional way.  Dig a hole, stand the post up, dump 
in dry concrete, and pour water in.  When I removed the deck, all I needed 
to do was wack the hell out of the 4X4 posts at the bottom, with a sledge 
hammer and for the most part, the concrete broke apart in several chunks. 
I just had to dig them up and pull them out in nice big pieces.  No jack 
hammering was necessary.

so, you may want to try a few good wacks with a sledge before renting a 
jack hammer.  although, it is a good excuse for playing with a jack 
hammer.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Score one for D I Y

[Dan Rossi]

The live wires weren't in the tub of water, but I had slid my arm down 
between the tub and the cabinet.  Water had been over flowing over the top 
edge of the tub so everything inside the shell of the washer was pretty 
wet.  The wires themselves weren't bare, but I hit the metal connector 
clips that attached the wires to the leads on the solenoid pack.  It was 
pretty stupid for me to go groping around before unplugging the washer. 
Lesson well learned.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mortgage Calculators?

[Dan Rossi]

Claudia,

If you have Microsoft Excel on your computer, you have all the calculator 
you need.

For example: To just calculate the basic payment for a mortgage use the 
=pmt function.  Let's say you have a 30 year fixed mortgage at 5% per 
year, compounded monthly and the principal is $100,000 you would just type 
the following into any cell in an Excel spreadsheet.

=pmt(5.0%/12,360,10)

There are also functions to calculate how much principal or interest has 
been paid over a period of time.  And, as someone else has mentioned, you 
can get Excel functions that will produce the entire amortization table, 
but the three functions I mentioned above give you all the same 
information.

Hope that helps.


  -- 
Blue skies.
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[BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Edward Przybylek]

Hi all,

 

Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts.  It sounds like the
way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete.  It also sounds like an
electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete.  Does
anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe?  It
appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post.  Stop
by if you're in the neighborhood.  Bring old clothes.  My wife, Vickie, says
she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of
beer in the basement.  Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post.
Thanks, again, for all the information.

 

Take care,

Ed Przybylek

 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Lee A. Stone]

whatever you do , at  the completin of this project might I suggest 
you paint that new post the brightest yellow or brightest orange you 
can find.  I wanted to do that here but they did not like the idea we 
too are on our fourth   4 by 4 post.  I f I have to do it again I am 
thinking of a long section of  cast iron   sewer pipe filled with 
concrete and  at the top before the concrete dries  is to insert   
some  carriage  or other bolts in the concrete.. whatever you do . 
best of luck.  Lee

On 
Wed, 
Aug 26, 2009 
at 10:07:02PM -0400, 
Edward Przybylek wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard
> has run into and broken the post under my mailbox.  The post was a 4-by-4
> piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground.  The
> first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
> was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal.  It appears
> that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
> through the neighborhood.  I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage
> to a car's bumper.  It's time to get serious about this matter.  This time
> it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort.  One, that next time,
> won't be the only thing left with damage.  Does anyone have any suggestions
> as to the type of metal post I should use?  Do steel posts hold up for a
> reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground?  Is there anything
> better?  Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
> will extend it's life in the ground?  Also, has anyone ever used an electric
> jackhammer?  Do they work reasonably well?  Are they tough to use?  Before
> putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
> broken up and removed to get ready for a new post.  I'm hoping to do this
> with an electric jackhammer.  Lots of questions, I know.  Any help is
> greatly appreciated.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed Przybylek
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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> 

-- 
Never trust anyone who says money is no object.
.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting off fence posts

[Lee A. Stone]

depending on what kind of a fence you areputting up  , whatever you do 
do Not, repeat do Not use  limbs from a willow tree.  I did that too 
many years ago when I had enough sight to be dangerous. . My brain was 
not thinking a few weeks , a month or a year down the road. a woman used 
to b  ab ysit  kids and needed a  small wire   four foot high sturdy  
fence put up.  I did it and did a right fine job . however.  my fence 
posts began to grow  both on the surface and udnder the ground inside 
that mobile home park. my very sturdy  fence posts   bound up their  
sewer lines and  that  , my fr iends is the rest of the story. Lee


-- 
Never trust anyone who says money is no object.
.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting off fence posts

[Lee A. Stone]

actually David, I got sighted help for that one.  years ago when we  
put up  a  stockade fence and used   4 by 4  treated posts .   we 
waited until  all the posts were up and the fence was installed and 
then rran a bubble line which is no more than a line with a little  
sliding bubble  and make a mark and then  I had someone with a god  
electric chain saw make those cuts. of course there are other saws  
one can use but that way  to the sighted  neighbor  it all looks 
uniform..Lee


On 
Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 06:44:33PM 
-0700, David Engebretson Jr. wrote:
> I'm building a fence and have a bunch of fence posts that I figure will be
> much easier to try and cut off evenly rather than try and get them all in at
> the right height when I pour the concrete.
> 
> Any ideas how to do this safely?
> 
> How do the professionals do it?
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> 
> 

-- 
Never trust anyone who says money is no object.
.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Scott Howell]

Victor, that is even better than my idea. :) I like it.  Some clown  
knocked over the street sign in front of our house and I heard them  
hit it, but it was snowing and I suspect they just were going to fast  
to make the turn and glad I wasn't out there shoveling at the time.   
THe town just came, made a new hole, and stuffed the busted pole and  
sign back into the ground.  My neighbor called and made them come back  
out and put it in straight cause it sure was looking like a drunk put  
it in. grin.
On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:34 PM, Victor wrote:

> Hi Edward,
>
> My dad and I used a four inch diameter steel pipe, buried about four  
> feet
> into the ground, and protruding about four or five feet up. We  
> filled it
> with cement, and painted it yellow.
>
> Let e just say that no one was able to break that puppy off, and the  
> darn
> thing has been there for over 20 years. In fact, I just went by  
> there with
> my wife the other day, and aside from the paint being chipped a bit,  
> the
> post is still there. I can tell you that this post has stood up to  
> 18 wheel
> trucks, and lived to tell about it, not to mention the countless  
> number of
> cube vans vying for the coveted prize, and no one has been able to  
> take this
> monster pole down. LOL.
>
> Victor
>
>
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Scott Howell]

If there is I want that law changed.  That would be completely stupid  
considering if the idiot driver was driving properly, other than a  
medical issue, then they deserve to have their vehicle damaged for  
hitting the mailbox.  If it were me, I'd get a solid steel post with  
some nice sleeve that looks like wood to cover the outside and see how  
they like that.  I once saw where someone built a brick enclosure  
around their mailbox post and seem to me they must have had the same  
problem.

Good luck,

On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:24 PM,  
 wrote:

> I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box  
> structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and  
> possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held  
> liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property.
>
> Does any one know if there is any truth to this?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Edward Przybylek
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
>
> Hi all,
>
> For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty  
> bastard
> has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4- 
> by-4
> piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the  
> ground. The
> first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third  
> time
> was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It  
> appears
> that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what  
> drives
> through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of  
> damage
> to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This  
> time
> it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
> won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any  
> suggestions
> as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up  
> for a
> reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there  
> anything
> better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post  
> that
> will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an  
> electric
> jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use?  
> Before
> putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have  
> to be
> broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do  
> this
> with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ed Przybylek
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Score one for D I Y

[Lee A. Stone]

congratulations D and theresa. question. I was confused  s to where 
did you find a live wire?. also I'd like to see another part of this  
post and list come alive and that would be .not so much what you paid. 
but where did you f8ind what part for what machine.  I'll tell you why. 
we long ago waitedtwo weeks for a part for the dryer  when  not 45 miles 
away in Albany ,NY there is a place called Lake electroics.  and I 
understand they carery or  get items in a hurry.  My next idea. is  say 
you bought the new washer. . do you like it.  is it a big tub machine 
but only can take a  midsized load. I mentione this as another friend of 
mine has bought a so called " green machine'" do not quote me but I 
think it is a Bosch washer and she hates it .not only did it cost extra 
because it was green but  since the first load it leaks around the   
front loading door gasket.  so between the moderators and owners maybe 
you can come up with a format  that added to this current list is Not 
what you heard, but what  you know about the product you boutght. I know 
we have done this ina round  about wway  but and , I am guilty if this  
many times the subject line does not always show  what we might be 
looking for. So if  that is not confusing enough , let me know and again 
Dan  cngratulations on " fixing it yourselves.". Lee


 On 
Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:38:57PM -0400, Dan Rossi 
wrote:
> Chalk up another point for a do it yourself repair.
> 
> Saturday morning Teresa and I did our biweekly strip trip, where we go to 
> an area of Pittsburgh called the strip district.  This isn't the cheap, 
> sleezy bar district, (we do that on alternate Friday nights), this is the 
> area where all the ethnic food markets are.  We have breakfast at an 
> Italian cafe, shop in Italian, Greek, Indian, and Korean grocery stores, 
> then have lunch at a Mexican taco stand.
> 
> Anyway, we get home, drop off the groceries, and are preparing to head 
> back out to pick up some more gravel at Lowes.  I decide to grab a glass 
> of water before leaving and go back into the kitchen.  I notice a sound. 
> A sound like running water.  I step over to the basement door, dread 
> filling my heart.  I open the door and sure enough, I hear the washing 
> machine filling.  Normally, this wouldn't induce any kind of panic in me, 
> however, I knew that Teresa had thrown a load of laundry in before we left 
> the house at 9:00 and it was now after noon.  The washer should not have 
> still been running.
> 
> I ran down the stairs and sure enough, the washer was over flowing and 
> water was running down the floor to the drain.  I pushed the knob in and 
> out expecting the water to stop, thinking that maybe the timer thing had 
> jammed.  No dice.  So I shut the water off at the inlet.  I popped the top 
> of the washer up and started feeling around inside to see what I could 
> see.  Just around the time that I thought I should unplug the washer, my 
> hand came in contact with a lovely set of live wires.  Lit me up pretty 
> good too.
> 
> Sooo, I unplugged the damn thing and began investigating some more.  I 
> eventually settled on the thought that the solenoid that controls the cold 
> water had failed open.  I removed the pack that contained the two 
> solenoids and applied some percussive maintenance.  I could blow air 
> through the cold water valve but not the hot side.  I tried to disassemble 
> it, but the pack was pretty much sealed.
> 
> Teresa got some parts numbers off of it, did some searching on line and 
> ordered the $24 part with six bucks shipping.  It arrived Tuesday evening 
> and after a bit of screwing around because the mounting bracket was a bit 
> different, and the stupid cheap, plastic threads on the hose connection 
> kept cross threading, I finally got it put together and we ran a wash 
> through and all was well.
> 
> When we started, Teresa was convinced we were going to have to get a brand 
> new washer.  Thirty bucks later, we no longer needed a new washer.  Well, 
> we kind of do want a new one, but we don't have to run out in a panic and 
> buy one without research or benefit of waiting for a sale.
> 
> Score one for D I Y.
> 
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
> Tel:  (412) 268-9081

-- 
Never trust anyone who says money is no object.
.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Score one for D I Y

[Scott Howell]

Dan, good job.  That has me thinking that it seems and I may be way  
wrong, but floor drains aren't as common as they used to be.  I know  
here in our house we do not have a floor drain on either level of the  
basement.  Our basement is a split-level arrangement and the washer  
sits on the upper basement level.  If it were to overflow, the water  
would have to clear a half-inch lip of the sump pit before it could  
make it to the pumps attention.  So, my thought is I'd have one hell  
of a mess with water running down into the lower level where the other  
pump is and yet it would still have to clear that half-inch lip.  So  
removing the lip likely isn't an option, but maybe I should be  
drilling some small holes in the lip to facilitate water running where  
I would rather it go.  Of course water doesn't generally do what you  
want and it would probably still make a mess. :)

On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Dan Rossi wrote:

> Chalk up another point for a do it yourself repair.
>
> Saturday morning Teresa and I did our biweekly strip trip, where we  
> go to
> an area of Pittsburgh called the strip district. This isn't the cheap,
> sleezy bar district, (we do that on alternate Friday nights), this  
> is the
> area where all the ethnic food markets are. We have breakfast at an
> Italian cafe, shop in Italian, Greek, Indian, and Korean grocery  
> stores,
> then have lunch at a Mexican taco stand.
>
> Anyway, we get home, drop off the groceries, and are preparing to head
> back out to pick up some more gravel at Lowes. I decide to grab a  
> glass
> of water before leaving and go back into the kitchen. I notice a  
> sound.
> A sound like running water. I step over to the basement door, dread
> filling my heart. I open the door and sure enough, I hear the washing
> machine filling. Normally, this wouldn't induce any kind of panic in  
> me,
> however, I knew that Teresa had thrown a load of laundry in before  
> we left
> the house at 9:00 and it was now after noon. The washer should not  
> have
> still been running.
>
> I ran down the stairs and sure enough, the washer was over flowing and
> water was running down the floor to the drain. I pushed the knob in  
> and
> out expecting the water to stop, thinking that maybe the timer thing  
> had
> jammed. No dice. So I shut the water off at the inlet. I popped the  
> top
> of the washer up and started feeling around inside to see what I could
> see. Just around the time that I thought I should unplug the washer,  
> my
> hand came in contact with a lovely set of live wires. Lit me up pretty
> good too.
>
> Sooo, I unplugged the damn thing and began investigating some more. I
> eventually settled on the thought that the solenoid that controls  
> the cold
> water had failed open. I removed the pack that contained the two
> solenoids and applied some percussive maintenance. I could blow air
> through the cold water valve but not the hot side. I tried to  
> disassemble
> it, but the pack was pretty much sealed.
>
> Teresa got some parts numbers off of it, did some searching on line  
> and
> ordered the $24 part with six bucks shipping. It arrived Tuesday  
> evening
> and after a bit of screwing around because the mounting bracket was  
> a bit
> different, and the stupid cheap, plastic threads on the hose  
> connection
> kept cross threading, I finally got it put together and we ran a wash
> through and all was well.
>
> When we started, Teresa was convinced we were going to have to get a  
> brand
> new washer. Thirty bucks later, we no longer needed a new washer.  
> Well,
> we kind of do want a new one, but we don't have to run out in a  
> panic and
> buy one without research or benefit of waiting for a sale.
>
> Score one for D I Y.
>
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
> Tel:  (412) 268-9081
>
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Sex Discrimination

[Bill Gallik]

Oh my, shall I subscribe as "Billie Gallik?"
---*---*---*---*---*---*---
Holland's Person, Bill
E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net
- Anonymous (from my source of goofy stuff)
- Eggs and Bacon for Breakfast
- An entire day commitment for a Hen.
- A Lifetime Commitment for a Hog

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mortgage Calculators?

[Bob Kennedy]

I was in the mortgage business for a few years.  There is a talking calculator 
but the cost is about a fair priced mortgage payment.  

I think last time I checked they ran between 4 and $500.  It is a scientific 
calculator with the mortgage functions built in.  
- Original Message - 
From: Claudia 
To: talking-produ...@yahoogroups.com 
Cc: blindt...@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:55 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mortgage Calculators?


  Hi,

If anyone out there works in the mortgage or housing industry, do you happen 
to know if there are talking mortgage calculators out there?
I happen to know that sighted people have such wondrous things, so being 
someone who works in the housing industry, I wanted to know if such a thing 
might be available to me as well?
Thanks.

Claudia 





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post

[Bob Kennedy]

Ed,

The electric jack hammer will work fine.  Soak the ground around the area first 
and once you start hammering you might be able to pull out good sized chunks 
when it breaks loose from the ground.

Knowing where you live and what the winters are like, you will understand how I 
built my mail box post.  I had a problem with plow drivers tagging mine.

I had a power auger in the shop so for  a road test, I drilled a 1 foot 
diameter hole 4 feet deep.  Then I took a piece of 4 inch sewer pipe and 
centered it in the hole.  I filled the rest of the hole with concrete, cut off 
the pipe at the right height and filled the inside of the pipe with the rest of 
the concrete.  I had to use a couple of the large muffler clamps, actually they 
fit a rear axle, and clamped the mail box bracket to the pipe.  

First time a plow hit my new mail box, I lost the mail box but it snapped the 
support arm on the plow as well.  Sounded like a bomb going off when they hit.  

I think this would do a reasonable amount of damage to a car or pickup truck as 
well.  You may lose the box if it is hit, but the post will defend your 
property and you'll feel better knowing who ran into your mail box.  


- Original Message - 
From: Edward Przybylek 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:07 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post


  Hi all,

For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard
has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4
piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The
first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time
was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears
that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives
through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage
to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time
it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time,
won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions
as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a
reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything
better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that
will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric
jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be
broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this
with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ed Przybylek

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] cutting off fence posts

[Bob Kennedy]

I'm guessing you're talking about 4 by 4 posts?  I can cut through a 4 by 4 on 
my miter saw.  If  that isn't an option, most will make a cut with the circular 
saw through one side and then line up exactly opposite and make the same cut.  
The kirf will overlap and make the cut complete.  

If you don't like the idea of trying to cut opposite the first line, make your 
first cut, put the blade in the kirf and make a cut 90 degrees to the first 
cut.  Then go to the opposite end, and put the blade in the original cut line 
and make your last cut.  This requires one more cut but you'll have the same 
starting place for all of them.  
- Original Message - 
From: David Engebretson Jr. 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:44 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] cutting off fence posts


  I'm building a fence and have a bunch of fence posts that I figure will be
much easier to try and cut off evenly rather than try and get them all in at
the right height when I pour the concrete.

Any ideas how to do this safely?

How do the professionals do it?

Thanks,
David





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Score one for D I Y

[Bob Kennedy]

Nice way of saying you went to Taco Bell for lunch...

I will say you win.  I've gotten lit up before working on a washer.  But only 
on the outside.  Live wires in the water I've never run across before.  And the 
water is such a good conductor it really amplifies the charge.  

Good job Maytag man!
- Original Message - 
From: Dan Rossi 
To: Blind Handyman List 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:38 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Score one for D I Y


  Chalk up another point for a do it yourself repair.

Saturday morning Teresa and I did our biweekly strip trip, where we go to 
an area of Pittsburgh called the strip district. This isn't the cheap, 
sleezy bar district, (we do that on alternate Friday nights), this is the 
area where all the ethnic food markets are. We have breakfast at an 
Italian cafe, shop in Italian, Greek, Indian, and Korean grocery stores, 
then have lunch at a Mexican taco stand.

Anyway, we get home, drop off the groceries, and are preparing to head 
back out to pick up some more gravel at Lowes. I decide to grab a glass 
of water before leaving and go back into the kitchen. I notice a sound. 
A sound like running water. I step over to the basement door, dread 
filling my heart. I open the door and sure enough, I hear the washing 
machine filling. Normally, this wouldn't induce any kind of panic in me, 
however, I knew that Teresa had thrown a load of laundry in before we left 
the house at 9:00 and it was now after noon. The washer should not have 
still been running.

I ran down the stairs and sure enough, the washer was over flowing and 
water was running down the floor to the drain. I pushed the knob in and 
out expecting the water to stop, thinking that maybe the timer thing had 
jammed. No dice. So I shut the water off at the inlet. I popped the top 
of the washer up and started feeling around inside to see what I could 
see. Just around the time that I thought I should unplug the washer, my 
hand came in contact with a lovely set of live wires. Lit me up pretty 
good too.

Sooo, I unplugged the damn thing and began investigating some more. I 
eventually settled on the thought that the solenoid that controls the cold 
water had failed open. I removed the pack that contained the two 
solenoids and applied some percussive maintenance. I could blow air 
through the cold water valve but not the hot side. I tried to disassemble 
it, but the pack was pretty much sealed.

Teresa got some parts numbers off of it, did some searching on line and 
ordered the $24 part with six bucks shipping. It arrived Tuesday evening 
and after a bit of screwing around because the mounting bracket was a bit 
different, and the stupid cheap, plastic threads on the hose connection 
kept cross threading, I finally got it put together and we ran a wash 
through and all was well.

When we started, Teresa was convinced we were going to have to get a brand 
new washer. Thirty bucks later, we no longer needed a new washer. Well, 
we kind of do want a new one, but we don't have to run out in a panic and 
buy one without research or benefit of waiting for a sale.

Score one for D I Y.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel: (412) 268-9081




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