Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Spiro]

with the grids made of cast iron, aren't they going to rust?
sorry for the odd question.





On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Dale Leavens wrote:

> I was given one of those big thick gloves with silicone coating which I like 
> to use for handling hot stuff on the grill. Sometimes just as a backing to 
> hold burgers while I slide a spatula under, helps keep the big thick burgers 
> I make from falling apart when flipping. It is also useful to turn an entire 
> row of wieners or those good hot sausages in a single motion.
> I never concern myself with flare-up, I rather like the singe flavour and am 
> glad to see the fat burning off.
> We like good thick cut pork chops, sirloin or t-bone steak. I haven't done 
> kabobs for a very long time now but often think of it.
>
> Mine has a warming rack about 5 inches above the main grill surface, I like 
> to toast buns on it or to make garlicky or cheese bread to go with what ever 
> else is cooking. Often we wrap potatoes in foil and roast them too, starting 
> them before the meet. You can't hardly get it wrong, the potatoes will take a 
> lot of cooking and still taste fine.
>
> I generally start my barbecue with the lid closed but I don't leave the gas 
> run long if it doesn't start nearly immediately. I shut the gas off, wait a 
> moment and start again. Even a slight breeze can keep the gas from igniting.
>
> Although this grill continues to start readily it is usually the starter 
> which fails first. My last one quit working within a year. I kept loosing 
> those little igniter lighters so for seven or ten years I started it with my 
> plumbers torch. Drove Janet crazy!
>
> There isn't really any difference between a barbecue and a gas range. Keeping 
> the propane bottles full is a pain, you might consider direct connection to 
> natural gas if you have gas to your home. I have two gas bottles and keep one 
> spare full all of the time because it isn't always convenient to get a ride 
> to a filling station. This time I also bought a barbecue with a side burner. 
> Don't use it often but occasionally the electricity fails here and Janet is a 
> lot easier to get along with if she gets her tea in the morning.
>
> She is not confident with gas or maybe she just likes me to think that so she 
> isn't expected to use it. She certainly did use it in England and that was a 
> primitive range.
>
> Dale Leavens
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -
>  From: Brice Mijares
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:45 AM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>
>
>
>  One more item I forgot to mention. Have a pair of glove with at least
>  leather finger tips on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this way
>  you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Donnie Parrett]

All of this talk about gas grills reminds me of the guy that jumped out of an 
airplane.  His rip
cord got tangled and wasn't working, so as he plumeted toward the ground, 
frantically pulling on his
rip cord, he met a little old lady going straight up.  He yelled to her and 
asked if she knew
anything about rip cords?  She yelled back and said, No!  Do you know anything 
about gas stoves?



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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 3:12 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


Yes, it certainly isn't anything for fools to mess around with.  Not paying
attention can get you killed.

Alan

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- Original Message -
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


>I have lost a little hair when cooking burgers, but I do not believe gas
>grills are dangerous for blind people. My wife who is sighted did a rather
>silly thing. She looked into the hole where a match can be inserted if the
>igniter fails. She continued to press the igniter and damn near burned her
>face. She never moved so fast and not realized it in her life. She did end
>up with some singed eye brows and we can laugh about it now. THe point is
>if you take care and pay attention to what you are doing, you will do just
>fine.
> On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Dale Leavens wrote:
>
>> The thermometer on the face of my grill reads 650 degreesF when it runs
>> off the scale. I find that even with long handled tools the hairs of my
>> forearms tend to smoke. If something flares up while in there it gets
>> pretty hot in a hurry. Gloves are a good idea blind or sighted.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: RJ
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>>
>> I don't like using a gas grill, but do use it with a glove that is made
>> for heat. It allows me to locate the food that I am cooking.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Claudia
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:25 AM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or
>> difficult it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
>> We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about
>> the whole gas thing!
>> I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Claudia
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Donnie Parrett]

I would absolutely love cooking on a grill list.

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[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:40 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


I think your better off with a cooking basket with a handle.  You can close
the grill lid on the basket with the handle sticking out.  When you need to
turn the food, open the grill lid, pickup the food with the handle and turn
it all over at once.  I bought a basket at Target a few weeks back for 12
bucks.

I was experimenting with frozen chicken fingers and hot wings.  I wanted to
see how they would taste cooked out on the grill verses dropping in hot oil.
The difference is amazing.  Cooking hot wings on the grill in a flippible
basket takes about 20 to 25 minutes which isn't bad sense they are put on
the grill still frozen.

Chicken fingers takes about the same time about 20 to 25 minutes.  They come
out nice and crispy on the outside and tender on the inside.  They come
already coated and cook up quite nicely.  As soon as restaurants discover
cooking them on the grill, they'll be offering them on their menus.  No deep
fried fat and the taste is of the sauce and the grill only.  Very good!

Would anybody be interested in joining a cooking on the grill list?  Or are
there any blindness related lists for those of us who love cooking on the
grill?

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
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- Original Message -
From: "Brice Mijares" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


> One more item I forgot to mention.  Have a pair of glove with at least
> leather finger tips  on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this
> way
> you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil.
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

The new grills I saw didn't have the old bars even on the smaller grills. 
The only ones that still had them were the portable grills that use the 1 
pound propane cylinders.  I have one of those I keep in the motor home 
because I don't like cooking on some of those grills you see that are open 
to the weather and birds.  I have found though that even with that grill 
that taking off the wire rack before lighting it and spraying it with a non 
stick cooking spray works wonders when it comes to clean up time.

HTH

Alan

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- Original Message - 
From: "Victor Gouveia" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


> Hi Claudia,
>
> One thing I would recommend is making sure that the grill surface are not
> the open grill type, meaning it isn't just bars going from one end of the
> barbeque to the other.
>
> There are grills you can purchase that are almost solid, but still have 
> the
> spaces between the raised parts of the surface, just not as open.
>
> I've always had trouble with those because my food will invariably always
> fall inside, and so I have to life the grill surface, then word my hand in
> to get what I dropped out, and believe me, it's not as easy to just fish
> something out of a hot barbeque with the fire raging.  LOL.
>
> Anyway, I'm sorry if I'm not explaining it right, I really don't know
> exactly what to call the type of surface.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Victor
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

Yes, it certainly isn't anything for fools to mess around with.  Not paying 
attention can get you killed.

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

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available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


>I have lost a little hair when cooking burgers, but I do not believe gas 
>grills are dangerous for blind people. My wife who is sighted did a rather 
>silly thing. She looked into the hole where a match can be inserted if the 
>igniter fails. She continued to press the igniter and damn near burned her 
>face. She never moved so fast and not realized it in her life. She did end 
>up with some singed eye brows and we can laugh about it now. THe point is 
>if you take care and pay attention to what you are doing, you will do just 
>fine.
> On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Dale Leavens wrote:
>
>> The thermometer on the face of my grill reads 650 degreesF when it runs 
>> off the scale. I find that even with long handled tools the hairs of my 
>> forearms tend to smoke. If something flares up while in there it gets 
>> pretty hot in a hurry. Gloves are a good idea blind or sighted.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: RJ
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>>
>> I don't like using a gas grill, but do use it with a glove that is made 
>> for heat. It allows me to locate the food that I am cooking.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Claudia
>> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:25 AM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or 
>> difficult it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
>> We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about 
>> the whole gas thing!
>> I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Claudia
>>
>> Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net
>> Skype: claudiadr10
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

I did see one actually.  It had the oven on the right side and had it's own 
burner.  It was marked off in degrees but wasn't interested in an oven gas 
grill.

Alan

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- Original Message - 
From: "Sheryl Nelson" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


> Aloha everyone,
>
> I too find using the gas grill pretty easy. I
> have a flat top stove in my house and have never
> had gas burners there so when I started using a
> gas grill I too was a little nervous and now I
> love it. All previous advice and encouragement
> from others on this list is great. Some day I
> would like to get a grill with a combination
> small oven don't know if they make that yet but I
> would love it. Living in Hawaii grilling is
> perfect all year long. I have used a charcoal
> grill for years even cooking a turkey at
> Thanksgiving many years on it. Happy grilling. Aloha Sheryl
>
>   At 02:37 AM 8/30/2010, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Dear Claudia,
>>
>>It's very doable. We have had one for forty
>>years, and the biggest problem has been with
>>them wearing out eventually. If you can afford a
>>Weber or other comparably priced higher of the
>>line one, I think it would be a great investment, twelve months a year.
>>
>>Bill Benson
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Claudia
>>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:25 AM
>>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to
>>know how easy or difficult it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
>>We're both pretty confident cookds, but
>>something just scares me about the whole gas thing!
>>I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Claudia
>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

Yeah, I had one of those too and got rid of it for exactly what your talking 
about.  This new one I got at Target, is non stick.  It tells you in the 
instructions not to scrub it with things like SOS or steal wool etc.  Don't 
use cooking sprays as their not needed.  Fair enough.  I gave them their 
shot.  To my surprise, cleaning it up only required hot water and a scrubby 
which is safe for all non stick cooking utensils.  My basket measures12.5 
inches from left to right.  From front to back, it measures 12 inches and is 
2 inches high.  On the sides are 17 vertical bars.  On the back and front 
are 3 horizontal bars that can be used to set the lid higher or lower.14 
inches long and has a wooden handle. That makes the total length 26 inches 
so care needs to be taken to not run into the handle sticking out of the 
front of the grill with the lid closed.  I have no idea of what kind of non 
stick coating it has on it but it sure does work.

Alan

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The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Stephan" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


>
>
> Allan.  We have one of those baskets and the cleanup is a real pain in the 
> butt because of how closely the wires are spaced.  Any good techniques for 
> doing this fairly quickly and easily.
>
> Bill Stephan,
> Kansas City MO
> Email: wstep...@everestkc.net
> Phone: (816)803-2469
>
> -original message-
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
> From: Alan Paganelli 
> Date: 08/30/2010 10:40
>
> I think your better off with a cooking basket with a handle.  You can 
> close
> the grill lid on the basket with the handle sticking out.  When you need 
> to
> turn the food, open the grill lid, pickup the food with the handle and 
> turn
> it all over at once.  I bought a basket at Target a few weeks back for 12
> bucks.
>
> I was experimenting with frozen chicken fingers and hot wings.  I wanted 
> to
> see how they would taste cooked out on the grill verses dropping in hot 
> oil.
> The difference is amazing.  Cooking hot wings on the grill in a flippible
> basket takes about 20 to 25 minutes which isn't bad sense they are put on
> the grill still frozen.
>
> Chicken fingers takes about the same time about 20 to 25 minutes.  They 
> come
> out nice and crispy on the outside and tender on the inside.  They come
> already coated and cook up quite nicely.  As soon as restaurants discover
> cooking them on the grill, they'll be offering them on their menus.  No 
> deep
> fried fat and the taste is of the sauce and the grill only.  Very good!
>
> Would anybody be interested in joining a cooking on the grill list?  Or 
> are
> there any blindness related lists for those of us who love cooking on the
> grill?
>
> Alan
>
> Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!
>
> The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
> available upon request.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brice Mijares" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>
>
>> One more item I forgot to mention.  Have a pair of glove with at least
>> leather finger tips  on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this
>> way
>> you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Send any questions regarding list management to:
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>> Or
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>>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Victor Gouveia]

Hi Claudia,

One thing I would recommend is making sure that the grill surface are not 
the open grill type, meaning it isn't just bars going from one end of the 
barbeque to the other.

There are grills you can purchase that are almost solid, but still have the 
spaces between the raised parts of the surface, just not as open.

I've always had trouble with those because my food will invariably always 
fall inside, and so I have to life the grill surface, then word my hand in 
to get what I dropped out, and believe me, it's not as easy to just fish 
something out of a hot barbeque with the fire raging.  LOL.

Anyway, I'm sorry if I'm not explaining it right, I really don't know 
exactly what to call the type of surface.

Good luck.

Victor 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Scott Howell]

I have lost a little hair when cooking burgers, but I do not believe gas grills 
are dangerous for blind people. My wife who is sighted did a rather silly 
thing. She looked into the hole where a match can be inserted if the igniter 
fails. She continued to press the igniter and damn near burned her face. She 
never moved so fast and not realized it in her life. She did end up with some 
singed eye brows and we can laugh about it now. THe point is if you take care 
and pay attention to what you are doing, you will do just fine.
On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Dale Leavens wrote:

> The thermometer on the face of my grill reads 650 degreesF when it runs off 
> the scale. I find that even with long handled tools the hairs of my forearms 
> tend to smoke. If something flares up while in there it gets pretty hot in a 
> hurry. Gloves are a good idea blind or sighted.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: RJ 
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
> 
> I don't like using a gas grill, but do use it with a glove that is made for 
> heat. It allows me to locate the food that I am cooking. 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Claudia 
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:25 AM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or difficult 
> it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
> We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the 
> whole gas thing!
> I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
> Thanks.
> 
> Claudia
> 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Sheryl Nelson]

Aloha everyone,

I too find using the gas grill pretty easy. I 
have a flat top stove in my house and have never 
had gas burners there so when I started using a 
gas grill I too was a little nervous and now I 
love it. All previous advice and encouragement 
from others on this list is great. Some day I 
would like to get a grill with a combination 
small oven don't know if they make that yet but I 
would love it. Living in Hawaii grilling is 
perfect all year long. I have used a charcoal 
grill for years even cooking a turkey at 
Thanksgiving many years on it. Happy grilling. Aloha Sheryl

   At 02:37 AM 8/30/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Dear Claudia,
>
>It's very doable. We have had one for forty 
>years, and the biggest problem has been with 
>them wearing out eventually. If you can afford a 
>Weber or other comparably priced higher of the 
>line one, I think it would be a great investment, twelve months a year.
>
>Bill Benson
>- Original Message -
>From: Claudia
>To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:25 AM
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>
>Hi,
>
>The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to 
>know how easy or difficult it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
>We're both pretty confident cookds, but 
>something just scares me about the whole gas thing!
>I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
>Thanks.
>
>Claudia
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Bill Stephan]

Allan.  We have one of those baskets and the cleanup is a real pain in the butt 
because of how closely the wires are spaced.  Any good techniques for doing 
this fairly quickly and easily.

Bill Stephan, 
Kansas City MO 
Email: wstep...@everestkc.net  
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
From: Alan Paganelli 
Date: 08/30/2010 10:40

I think your better off with a cooking basket with a handle.  You can close 
the grill lid on the basket with the handle sticking out.  When you need to 
turn the food, open the grill lid, pickup the food with the handle and turn 
it all over at once.  I bought a basket at Target a few weeks back for 12 
bucks.

I was experimenting with frozen chicken fingers and hot wings.  I wanted to 
see how they would taste cooked out on the grill verses dropping in hot oil. 
The difference is amazing.  Cooking hot wings on the grill in a flippible 
basket takes about 20 to 25 minutes which isn't bad sense they are put on 
the grill still frozen.

Chicken fingers takes about the same time about 20 to 25 minutes.  They come 
out nice and crispy on the outside and tender on the inside.  They come 
already coated and cook up quite nicely.  As soon as restaurants discover 
cooking them on the grill, they'll be offering them on their menus.  No deep 
fried fat and the taste is of the sauce and the grill only.  Very good!

Would anybody be interested in joining a cooking on the grill list?  Or are 
there any blindness related lists for those of us who love cooking on the 
grill?

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brice Mijares" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


> One more item I forgot to mention.  Have a pair of glove with at least
> leather finger tips  on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this 
> way
> you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil.
>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Dale Leavens]

The thermometer on the face of my grill reads 650 degreesF when it runs off the 
scale. I find that even with long handled tools the hairs of my forearms tend 
to smoke. If something flares up while in there it gets pretty hot in a hurry. 
Gloves are a good idea blind or sighted.




  - Original Message - 
  From: RJ 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:25 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!



  I don't like using a gas grill, but do use it with a glove that is made for 
heat. It allows me to locate the food that I am cooking. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Claudia 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:25 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

  Hi,

  The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or difficult 
it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
  We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the 
whole gas thing!
  I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
  Thanks.

  Claudia

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[RJ]

I don't like using a gas grill, but do use it with a glove  that is made for 
heat. It allows me to locate the food that I am cooking. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Claudia 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:25 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!



  Hi,

  The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or difficult 
it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
  We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the 
whole gas thing!
  I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
  Thanks.

  Claudia

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

On the other hand, if you live in an area where you can cook year round on 
the grill, those indoor over grown hotplates just don't hack it!  
Those things aren't grills!  Good God man! I thought you knew better! 
LOLOLOLOL!

Alan

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- Original Message - 
From: "Cy Selfridge" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 7:09 AM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


> Jerry,
>
> I agree with you.
>
> I do not think anything has a better taste than meat cooked over wood 
> coals
> - but - I am not sure it is worth the hassle for everyday cooking.
>
> The gas grill is really nice for cooking larger amounts of food but that
> electric kettle grill we had is really hard to beat for convenience. Just
> plug it in, select the temp you want, wait a couple of minutes for the 
> thing
> to reach temp and away you go. Turn down the thermostat a minute before 
> you
> want to turn the meat and very little flare up.
>
> If your electric grill is small enough you can cook indoors and let the
> exhaust fan over your cook stove take out the smoke. Really nice when it 
> is
> raining or snowing outside.
>
> Cy, The Anasazi (LOL)
>
>
>
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Jerry Richer
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:00 AM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
>
>
>
>
>
> I used charcoal for a few years then propane for many years after that. 
> Big
> improvement, no dirty lighter fluid or charcoal to mess with. Most 
> recently,
> for about the past ten years I've been using an electric grill. It's 
> either
> on or off. I love it. No more dealing with getting the propane tank filled
> or exchanged. The food tastes just as good. You can use the same hickory 
> or
> whatever wood chips with it for flavoring.
>
> Jerry
>
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>
>
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Cy Selfridge]

Hi Dale,

For the most part I can deal with the flare up because I prefer the 90/10
hamburger meat. Some of my family purchase the 75/25 or 80/20 hamburger and
the grease from that can be a problem particularly if the grill is too hot.
My grandson grills like he drives, petal to the metal and this has given us
some wonderful burnt offerings for supper. (LOLLOLLOL)

Also, it is rather important to keep an eye on the meat while grilling
because things can get out of hand when not watched. I do like smoking
things because this is not a problem at all. We have an electric smoker and
it is as good as any I have ever used.

Just refresh the chips about every half hour and it does a fantastic job.
Smoked Jalapeno poppers wrapped in bacon are really hard to beat. 

Cy, The Anasazi   

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:22 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

 

  

I was given one of those big thick gloves with silicone coating which I like
to use for handling hot stuff on the grill. Sometimes just as a backing to
hold burgers while I slide a spatula under, helps keep the big thick burgers
I make from falling apart when flipping. It is also useful to turn an entire
row of wieners or those good hot sausages in a single motion.
I never concern myself with flare-up, I rather like the singe flavour and am
glad to see the fat burning off.
We like good thick cut pork chops, sirloin or t-bone steak. I haven't done
kabobs for a very long time now but often think of it.

Mine has a warming rack about 5 inches above the main grill surface, I like
to toast buns on it or to make garlicky or cheese bread to go with what ever
else is cooking. Often we wrap potatoes in foil and roast them too, starting
them before the meet. You can't hardly get it wrong, the potatoes will take
a lot of cooking and still taste fine.

I generally start my barbecue with the lid closed but I don't leave the gas
run long if it doesn't start nearly immediately. I shut the gas off, wait a
moment and start again. Even a slight breeze can keep the gas from igniting.


Although this grill continues to start readily it is usually the starter
which fails first. My last one quit working within a year. I kept loosing
those little igniter lighters so for seven or ten years I started it with my
plumbers torch. Drove Janet crazy!

There isn't really any difference between a barbecue and a gas range.
Keeping the propane bottles full is a pain, you might consider direct
connection to natural gas if you have gas to your home. I have two gas
bottles and keep one spare full all of the time because it isn't always
convenient to get a ride to a filling station. This time I also bought a
barbecue with a side burner. Don't use it often but occasionally the
electricity fails here and Janet is a lot easier to get along with if she
gets her tea in the morning.

She is not confident with gas or maybe she just likes me to think that so
she isn't expected to use it. She certainly did use it in England and that
was a primitive range.

Dale Leavens

- Original Message - 
From: Brice Mijares 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

One more item I forgot to mention. Have a pair of glove with at least 
leather finger tips on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this way 
you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil. 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Dale Leavens]

I was given one of those big thick gloves with silicone coating which I like to 
use for handling hot stuff on the grill. Sometimes just as a backing to hold 
burgers while I slide a spatula under, helps keep the big thick burgers I make 
from falling apart when flipping. It is also useful to turn an entire row of 
wieners or those good hot sausages in a single motion.
I never concern myself with flare-up, I rather like the singe flavour and am 
glad to see the fat burning off.
We like good thick cut pork chops, sirloin or t-bone steak. I haven't done 
kabobs for a very long time now but often think of it.

Mine has a warming rack about 5 inches above the main grill surface, I like to 
toast buns on it or to make garlicky or cheese bread to go with what ever else 
is cooking. Often we wrap potatoes in foil and roast them too, starting them 
before the meet. You can't hardly get it wrong, the potatoes will take a lot of 
cooking and still taste fine.

I generally start my barbecue with the lid closed but I don't leave the gas run 
long if it doesn't start nearly immediately. I shut the gas off, wait a moment 
and start again. Even a slight breeze can keep the gas from igniting. 

Although this grill continues to start readily it is usually the starter which 
fails first. My last one quit working within a year. I kept loosing those 
little igniter lighters so for seven or ten years I started it with my plumbers 
torch. Drove Janet crazy!

There isn't really any difference between a barbecue and a gas range. Keeping 
the propane bottles full is a pain, you might consider direct connection to 
natural gas if you have gas to your home. I have two gas bottles and keep one 
spare full all of the time because it isn't always convenient to get a ride to 
a filling station. This time I also bought a barbecue with a side burner. Don't 
use it often but occasionally the electricity fails here and Janet is a lot 
easier to get along with if she gets her tea in the morning.

She is not confident with gas or maybe she just likes me to think that so she 
isn't expected to use it. She certainly did use it in England and that was a 
primitive range.

Dale Leavens


  - Original Message - 
  From: Brice Mijares 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!



  One more item I forgot to mention. Have a pair of glove with at least 
  leather finger tips on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this way 
  you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil. 



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

I think your better off with a cooking basket with a handle.  You can close 
the grill lid on the basket with the handle sticking out.  When you need to 
turn the food, open the grill lid, pickup the food with the handle and turn 
it all over at once.  I bought a basket at Target a few weeks back for 12 
bucks.

I was experimenting with frozen chicken fingers and hot wings.  I wanted to 
see how they would taste cooked out on the grill verses dropping in hot oil. 
The difference is amazing.  Cooking hot wings on the grill in a flippible 
basket takes about 20 to 25 minutes which isn't bad sense they are put on 
the grill still frozen.

Chicken fingers takes about the same time about 20 to 25 minutes.  They come 
out nice and crispy on the outside and tender on the inside.  They come 
already coated and cook up quite nicely.  As soon as restaurants discover 
cooking them on the grill, they'll be offering them on their menus.  No deep 
fried fat and the taste is of the sauce and the grill only.  Very good!

Would anybody be interested in joining a cooking on the grill list?  Or are 
there any blindness related lists for those of us who love cooking on the 
grill?

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brice Mijares" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


> One more item I forgot to mention.  Have a pair of glove with at least
> leather finger tips  on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this 
> way
> you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil.
>
>
>
> 
>
> Send any questions regarding list management to:
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> Or
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>
> The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

If you have a 3 burner grill, turn off the center burner and cook your food 
in that safe zone.

Alan

Please click on: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros keyboard.  I often add files so check back regularly!

The albums in Technics  format formerly on my website are still
available upon request.

- Original Message - 
From: "Brice Mijares" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


>
> No problem, I have a gas grill, a Weber, and a smoker.   I use them all 
> with
> no problems.  You can even buy wire baskets with handles to flip your 
> meats.
> For thicker meats you may want to have a talking thermostat on hand.
> Personally I use my gas grill for steak, hamburgers, and hot links.  Gas
> grills tend to burn to damn hot to cook your thicker meats, this is where 
> a
> Weber  is handy .  Next weekend I plan to slow cook a nice size brisket.
> I'll start it off in my Weber to get the wood smoke into the meat for a 
> few
> hours, then I'll finish of in my gas smoker for another 7 hours or so. 
> Good
> luck.
>
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

I cook on my grill probably more then I do on or in the stove in the 
kitchen.  If you like your food cooked over a camp fire, you can always buy 
a smoker box.  Just fill it up with your favorite kind of wood chips like 
maybe Misdeed or Hickory.  You can buy the wood chips in Wal-Mart.  Come to 
think of it, you can buy the smoker box there too.  They come in all kinds 
of shapes and sizes.  What you do is to fill the box with wood chips.  Let 
the chips soak in cold water for at least 30 minutes prior to cooking.  Even 
an old coffee can works to soak wood chips in.  Place the chips in the 
smoker box and place the smoker box on the grate of the grill.  Because the 
wood chips are wet, they will just smoke and smolder.  You probably can use 
them again by wetting them again.  My wife says their cheap enough for 
single use.  Depending on your taste, you may like this kind of chips for 
this and that kind of chips for something else.  Or no smoke flavored 
anything, take the box out of the grill.

In a pinch, and to see how you would like smoking food, take a peace of tin 
foile maybe 18 inches long.  Make a rectangle out of  and place your wet 
wood chips in the center Fold the sides to make a little package.  With a 
fork punch holes in the top of the package to let the smoke out.  Advantage: 
cheap and when your done, toss it in the trash.  The larger ones let you use 
more chips and more smoke.  Smoked fish cooked on the grill is great!

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To: 
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!


> Dear Claudia,
>
> It's very doable.  We have had one for forty years, and the biggest 
> problem has been with them wearing out eventually.  If you can afford a 
> Weber or other comparably priced higher of the line one, I think it would 
> be a great investment, twelve months a year.
>
> Bill Benson
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan Paganelli]

Hi All,

Claudia, the gas grill is totally doable for blind people.  I just bought a 
new gas grill from Wal-Mart last month and in the July issue of Consumer 
Reports I find that it was rated as a "See Our Best buy"

I'll specify the brand and model at the end of this message as I need to get 
my sighted wife to look on the model plate.

If you've ever cooked in a frying pan and who among us hasn't?  The new gas 
grills are even better then the older ones and safer too.
Today's grills use 5 burners rather then 2 or 3 used in older grills.  These 
burners are smaller but because you cook with all 5 burners running, the 
heat is more uniform across the cooking surface of the cast-iron face.  The 
cast-iron cooking grate provides greater non-stick like a cast-iron skillet 
that's well seasoned does.

I cook on the lowest setting using all 5 burners.  Under the cooking grates 
are 5 deflectors which help spread the heat evenly across the cooking 
surface and protect you against direct heat.

The 5 dials that control the gas flow are very blind friendly.  There is an 
electronic igniter like you would find on a gas stove.  It runs off of a 
single "(AA) battery and makes a clicking sound as it's held down.  To light 
the grill, you press in on the dial and turn it counter clockwise.   A click 
is heard letting you know your on high power.  The first thing you do is 
hold down the igniter button and press in on the dial.  Turn the knob 
counter clockwise and the escaping gas is lit for you.  Repeat the above 
second step with the remaining burners.  There is also a sixth burner off to 
the right that can be used to cook a pot of beans for example or what ever 
else you might need a sixth burner for.  Turning the dials  farther counter 
clockwise until they stop sets you on low cooking where I like it.

Your ready to cook in about 6 minutes.  I suggest using a cooking spray 
before starting the grill just like you would with a cast-iron skillet.

The sides of the grill stick out and form a handy place to put a platter to 
hold all the burgers, steaks, chops, or anything else you decide to make. 
On the far left of the grill is a bar type handle with 4 S hooks you can use 
to hold utensils made for the grill.  The propane tank is a standard size 5 
gallon tank.  By law the tank cannot hold more then %80 of capacity.  This 
prevents all those accidents you use to hear about about gas grills 
exploding.  This safety feature has greatly diminished the number of deaths 
but there is always the stupidity factor.  A gas grill is like anything else 
that uses any kind of gas.  The potential is there for accidents and 
therefore, respect for what your doing is in order.  When not in use, the 
tank should be turned off and only turned on just before cooking is to 
commence.

It never pays to buy the bottom of the line.  This particular grill is only 
sold at Wal-mart and goes for $250 and worth every dime of it.  However, 
when we came across it, it was on sail for $220 which made it an even more 
attractive deal.

You can buy the grill in a box and assemble it yourself which is what we 
chose to do.  The frame is about all you assemble.  The firebox and lid are 
pre assembled at the factory.  This includes the 5 burners as well.  They 
don't want you assembling it incorrectly and suing them if you do it 
incorrectly.  You can also choose to buy one of the already assembled 
grills.

I found the assembly of the units to be easy and straight forward with easy 
to understand instructions.  They say 90 minutes to assemble the grill but 
that's in the same class as "the checks in the mail"  It took me a bit over 
2 hours.

The grill is already setup for you if you decide to buy a rotisserie sold 
separately for around another 20 to 30 more dollars.  You will also need an 
extension outdoor cord long enough to reach your outdoor outlet.   We have 
the rotisserie and have already grilled several chickens.  On low and only 
using burners 1 and 5 for indirect cooking, it took 90 minutes for an 
average size chicken.

The grill was rated by Consumer Reports as "very Good" for both low and high 
cooking.  It also comes with a second rack that drops into 4 holes on the 
outside frame and sits about 2/3 of the way from back to front giving you 
even more cooking surface for those items like corn on the cob etc.

I find that this grill with all 5 burners running cooks a bit faster then my 
old 3 burner grill but the heat differences are in uniformity.  My new grill 
is a pleasure to cook on, the design is well thought out.  The controls are 
easy to use and even easier to tell by feel if they are on or off or their 
status as to temperature.  I've only used the right side side burner a few 
times but it works like any all the other 5 burners and has the exact same 
dial as it's brothers.  It has a cooking grate such as one would find on an 
in the house gas stove.  I noticed last night during a trip to K-Mart that 
even the new gas st

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Cy Selfridge]

Jerry,

I agree with you.

I do not think anything has a better taste than meat cooked over wood coals
- but - I am not sure it is worth the hassle for everyday cooking.

The gas grill is really nice for cooking larger amounts of food but that
electric kettle grill we had is really hard to beat for convenience. Just
plug it in, select the temp you want, wait a couple of minutes for the thing
to reach temp and away you go. Turn down the thermostat a minute before you
want to turn the meat and very little flare up.

If your electric grill is small enough you can cook indoors and let the
exhaust fan over your cook stove take out the smoke. Really nice when it is
raining or snowing outside.

Cy, The Anasazi (LOL)  

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jerry Richer
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:00 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

 

  

I used charcoal for a few years then propane for many years after that. Big
improvement, no dirty lighter fluid or charcoal to mess with. Most recently,
for about the past ten years I've been using an electric grill. It's either
on or off. I love it. No more dealing with getting the propane tank filled
or exchanged. The food tastes just as good. You can use the same hickory or
whatever wood chips with it for flavoring.

Jerry

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Bill Gallik]

I agree with Al completely except that I would add one more caveat; when 
switching fuel canisters you do need to be certain that attachment hoses are 
tightly and cleanly fastened.  By "cleanly fastened" I mean you must be 
careful to not cross thread those connectors because that could cause a 
leak.  It isn't difficult to make certain hoses are correctly attached but 
it is something that you need be aware.  A sighted person can usually apply 
a film of soapy water on the connections and watch for any bubbling; 
unfortunately a blind person does not have this safe guard option so extra 
care should be taken when swapping out fuel canisters.

But, boy, will you like cooking with one of those gas grills.  Especially 
when you decide at 4:50 in the afternoon to make dinner outside on the 
grill.  Personally, I still use charcoal grills and I suspect they are 
seriously more dangerous than a gas grill - no open flames and all that with 
gas.

Bon appétit!

Holland's Person, Bill
E-Mail: billgal...@centurytel.net
- The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese! 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Bill Stephan]

Nothing to be scared of claudia  only thing i would add is to be sure you buy a 
fitted cover for the grill when not in use. Also turn the tank valve off and 
then the burner valves when shutting the thing off and be  absolutely sure you 
buy a spare tank for when you run out of gas in the middle of cooking a meal 
for company which will happen sooner than later.


Bill Stephan, 
Kansas City MO 
Email: wstep...@everestkc.net  
Phone: (816)803-2469

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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!
From: Claudia 
Date: 08/30/2010 05:25

Hi,

The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or difficult it 
is to use a gas outdoor grill?
We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the 
whole gas thing!
I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
Thanks.

Claudia

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Skype:  claudiadr10


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Dan Rossi]

Claudia,

Using a gas grill is pretty straight forward.  Turn on the tank, turn on 
one of the burners, punch the igniter, after you hear the woof of it 
igniting, you can turn on the other burners.  Make sure the lid is up when 
you are firing it up.  A talking instant read thermometer like the one you 
can get from BlindMiceMart, comes in quite handy.  Tongs are also quite 
useful.

Learning how to cook on it takes some practise.  Expect to burn a few 
things at first.  You will need to learn about where to put things on the 
grill.  You can place stuff directly over the flames.  You can place it 
forward of the flames.  Or you can even turn off one of the burners, and 
place the food in that spot so that you are cooking with indirect heat. 
It's just a matter of getting used to it, but I think you will enjoy it.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Brice Mijares]

One more item I forgot to mention.  Have a pair of glove with at least 
leather finger tips  on them if you plan to cook anything in foil. this way 
you can use your hands to turn what ever in the foil. 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Brice Mijares]

No problem, I have a gas grill, a Weber, and a smoker.   I use them all with 
no problems.  You can even buy wire baskets with handles to flip your meats. 
For thicker meats you may want to have a talking thermostat on hand. 
Personally I use my gas grill for steak, hamburgers, and hot links.  Gas 
grills tend to burn to damn hot to cook your thicker meats, this is where a 
Weber  is handy .  Next weekend I plan to slow cook a nice size brisket. 
I'll start it off in my Weber to get the wood smoke into the meat for a few 
hours, then I'll finish of in my gas smoker for another 7 hours or so.  Good 
luck. 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Bill Benson]

Dear Claudia,

It's very doable.  We have had one for forty years, and the biggest problem has 
been with them wearing out eventually.  If you can afford a Weber or other 
comparably priced higher of the line one, I think it would be a great 
investment, twelve months a year.

Bill Benson
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  From: Claudia 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:25 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!



  Hi,

  The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or difficult 
it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
  We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the 
whole gas thing!
  I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
  Thanks.

  Claudia

  Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net
  Skype: claudiadr10

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Cy Selfridge]

Good morning Claudia,

I use a propane grill and have had no problems. Dppending on how large a
grill you really want I might suggewst one of the small electric models.

We had an electric kettle style grill which was a dream to use. It would
hole 5 good size burgers, had a thermostat and could be used indoors if you
placed it by the kitchen window or on the stove top with the exhaust fan
running. Turning things on it was really nice as you just turned down the
thermostat until after the meat was turned thus eliminating 99.99% of the
flare up.

If you do want to go for a propane grill then I would also recommend doing a
little research as to which grill cooks most evenly.

We have one from Vermont Casting and it cooks really nice. It doews not
appear to get quite as hot as my daughter's larger grill but it does an
excellent job and everything tends to get done about the same time. My
daughter's grill has definite hot spots and this makes it a challenge to get
all things done evenly.

Once I had a Char Broiler and this one had two shelves which could be used
when turning things and preventing flare up.

HTH,

Cy, The Anasazi 

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Claudia
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:25 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

 

  

Hi,

The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or difficult
it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the
whole gas thing!
I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
Thanks.

Claudia

Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net
 
Skype: claudiadr10

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Mike Rusk]

I have used a gas grill for over 30 years, no problem.  Two things to help, 
make sure your lid is open when you light the thing, and know where your meat 
is when it comes time to turn it or take it off the grill.  It also helps to 
have a water source near by in case of flare ups.  I try to not use meats 
without a lot of fat or grease, that's helps with controling the flare ups.
Enjoy it, but expect a few tricky moments from time to time.

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  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:25 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!



  Hi,

  The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or difficult 
it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
  We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the 
whole gas thing!
  I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
  Thanks.

  Claudia

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!

[Alan & Terrie Robbins]

Claudia,

If you get one delivered all assembled, or have some sighted assistance
assembling, then you should have no problem. Basically you turn a valve on
the tank to allow gas to flow to the tank then simply turn on a burner unit
and press the self igniter. After that works very similar to a gas stove.
Can't speak for others but I don't find a big issue in using one.

Al
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  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Using Gas Grill!



  Hi,

  The honey & I, being both totally blind, want to know how easy or
difficult it is to use a gas outdoor grill?
  We're both pretty confident cookds, but something just scares me about the
whole gas thing!
  I guess I'd like to know how doable it is?
  Thanks.

  Claudia

  Windows Messenger: cdelreal1...@sbcglobal.net
  Skype: claudiadr10

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