Re: Screwy Irregulars Question
Thanks to all who replied! Comments follow . . . At 10:01 PM Wednesday 7/1/2009, Nick Arnett wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have a new lawn mower. According to the instructions I need to change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say to change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is about how long it ran mowing the whole yard twice, which is what I've done with it up to now). The drain plug is in the form of a screw with a square-shaped recess in the outer end. I know that the tool used on such a screw with a hexagonal recess is sometimes referred to as an Allen wrench. Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for? A square drive. Thanks! You should be able to find one that fits a socket wrench. Have /those/ in all three sizes. And sockets to fit in SAE and metric. (Well, I don't think I have a set of metric sockets for the 1/2 drive: up 'til now the need has never arisen.) As well as lotsa other such stuff. [Tool]boxes and boxes of stuff. Of course, nothing in all of that to fit this plug . . . Ideally, your owners manual will tell you what size to get. Otherwise, you'll have to measure, which is tricky... and it'll help if you know if it's metric or SAE. Nope. Best eyeball guess is that it is either 9mm, 10mm, 5/16, or 3/8. Some other bolts on the mower were 3/8, so maybe that means everything will be SAE rather than metric. Or maybe not. At 10:02 PM Wednesday 7/1/2009, John Williams wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ronn! Blankenshipronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver Yes, I've heard that name somewhere, somewhen, and indeed have a set of bits (part of a larger set of bits for a power or manual screwdriver, but they are not named on the case) that I think includes all of the sizes in the table in that article. The recess in the plug in question is about twice the size of the largest of those, though. At 10:05 PM Wednesday 7/1/2009, David Hobby wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I have a new lawn mower. According to the instructions I need to change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say to change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is about how long it ran mowing the whole yard twice, which is what I've done with it up to now). The drain plug is in the form of a screw with a square-shaped recess in the outer end. I know that the tool used on such a screw with a hexagonal recess is sometimes referred to as an Allen wrench. Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for? ... Ronn-- Not me. I tend to confidently go into the store and say that I need something like a hex key but for a square hole. My sense is that the terminology is not very standardized, anyway. With luck the retired trucker next door will have a set of them (he still has the garage and tools to work on his pickups and RV) or else the guy down the street that works on stuff will and I can borrow it at least long enough to find out which size is required. While waiting for the opportunity to catch one of them I thought I'd ask around to see if I could find out what the were called so as not to have to ask one of them for a thingy of some sort (and then when I know the size I can also go to the store and ask for the right thing in the right size rather than having to buy a whole set myself, which could get expensive, esp. for someone on disability.* The mower? It was a gift . . .). *The new one doesn't take quite as long to use as the old one before it finally died completely. Sometimes it would take two or three sessions to complete the yard. And that doesn't count the resting time between sessions, which in many cases can be two or three days. One of the biggest improvements is that when the new one stops (out of gas, choked on the really thick grass in the front yard, or just had to stop to move a tree limb which had fallen in the way since the last time, or whatever) it starts right up. With the old one, after it stopped I'd frequently pull it two or three times without success and on top of having mowed whatever I had so far that would be it for me . . . It could be that the driver for a socket set, I thought of that, but wanted to get the right thing instead. Not as much hurry right now, since we haven't had any rain for several days and so it is not growing tropical rain forest fast like it was before . . . or the right sized flat-bladed
Screwy Irregulars Question
I have a new lawn mower. According to the instructions I need to change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say to change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is about how long it ran mowing the whole yard twice, which is what I've done with it up to now). The drain plug is in the form of a screw with a square-shaped recess in the outer end. I know that the tool used on such a screw with a hexagonal recess is sometimes referred to as an Allen wrench. Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for? . . . ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Screwy Irregulars Question
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: I have a new lawn mower. According to the instructions I need to change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say to change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is about how long it ran mowing the whole yard twice, which is what I've done with it up to now). The drain plug is in the form of a screw with a square-shaped recess in the outer end. I know that the tool used on such a screw with a hexagonal recess is sometimes referred to as an Allen wrench. Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for? A square drive. You should be able to find one that fits a socket wrench. Ideally, your owners manual will tell you what size to get. Otherwise, you'll have to measure, which is tricky... and it'll help if you know if it's metric or SAE. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Screwy Irregulars Question
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ronn! Blankenshipronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote: Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Screwy Irregulars Question
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: I have a new lawn mower. According to the instructions I need to change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say to change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is about how long it ran mowing the whole yard twice, which is what I've done with it up to now). The drain plug is in the form of a screw with a square-shaped recess in the outer end. I know that the tool used on such a screw with a hexagonal recess is sometimes referred to as an Allen wrench. Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for? ... Ronn-- Not me. I tend to confidently go into the store and say that I need something like a hex key but for a square hole. My sense is that the terminology is not very standardized, anyway. It could be that the driver for a socket set, or the right sized flat-bladed screwdriver would to the job... ---David Screwy Irregular, Maru ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Irregulars question about Culture
Dan M said: Anyways, I was trying to subscribe without bothering anyone. It's too bad that Google likes the 4 year old website. If you found the old one at http://theculture.org/culture/faq.htm then you should rest assured that I've updated it with correct subscription and unsubscription information. Rich GSV Watching The Cogs Turn ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Irregulars question about Culture
No, you didn't follow the directions at all, or you followed fossilised ones you found on the interwebs instead of going to www.culturelist.org : try making the subject subscribe culture, and sending it to m...@culturelist.org We haven't been on busstop for about 4 years-ish - certainly since a while before my Big Lap began. I did the latter, the old website is what came up via two Google searches. Now, I searched again, and both websites now come up...go figure. Anyways, I was trying to subscribe without bothering anyone. It's too bad that Google likes the 4 year old website. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question about Culture
I decided to resubscribe to the Culture mailing list (after Comcast took over my Roadrunner account I was automatically unsubscribed) partially because things are now slowing down from my busiest year ever and I will probably have free time. I followed the FAQ directions to send a message with subscribe culture in the body to listmana...@busstop.org. It seemed to go through, but I have received no culture email in a day, and my test message failed. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I did wrong? Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question about Culture
At 07:26 PM Sunday 1/4/2009, Dan M wrote: I decided to resubscribe to the Culture mailing list (after Comcast took over my Roadrunner account I was automatically unsubscribed) partially because things are now slowing down from my busiest year ever and I will probably have free time. I followed the FAQ directions to send a message with subscribe culture in the body to listmana...@busstop.org. It seemed to go through, but I have received no culture email in a day, and my test message failed. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I did wrong? Dan M. Nope. Every now and then I subscribe to that list and then sometime later seem to have been dropped. I certainly hope the Minds in the future work better than the one which hosts that list . . . ;) IIRC Charlie Bell has something to do with that list, and is on this list? Hello? Help? . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question about Culture
IIRC Charlie Bell has something to do with that list, and is on this list? Hello? Help? Yea, Charlie's the guy to talk to. I could be wrong but I don't think that there has been any list traffic for over a day, so you haven't missed anything. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question about Culture
On 05/01/2009, at 12:26 PM, Dan M wrote: I followed the FAQ directions to send a message with subscribe culture in the body to listmana...@busstop.org. No, you didn't follow the directions at all, or you followed fossilised ones you found on the interwebs instead of going to www.culturelist.org : try making the subject subscribe culture, and sending it to m...@culturelist.org We haven't been on busstop for about 4 years-ish - certainly since a while before my Big Lap began. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question about Culture
At 01:37 AM Monday 1/5/2009, Charlie Bell wrote: On 05/01/2009, at 12:26 PM, Dan M wrote: I followed the FAQ directions to send a message with subscribe culture in the body to listmana...@busstop.org. No, you didn't follow the directions at all, or you followed fossilised ones you found on the interwebs instead of going to www.culturelist.org : try making the subject subscribe culture, and sending it to m...@culturelist.org We haven't been on busstop for about 4 years-ish - certainly since a while before my Big Lap began. Charlie. Is it supposed to respond in some way? . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question about Culture
On 05/01/2009, at 6:46 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Is it supposed to respond in some way? Yeah. Mail me offlist if you're having issues. C. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
Andrew Crystall wrote: On 12 Nov 2008 at 19:08, Nick Arnett wrote: Anybody here a Second Life participant? I'm talking to them about perhaps joining the company... but I'm barely familiar with it as a user. Any suggestions about things to try, etc. I'm most interested in metrics and such, things that are or could be measured, which has to do mostly with the economy, of course. I've sent you something I hope you'll be interested in offlist, but from a personal standpoint I'm highly uncomfortable with their general policys - the Linden's application of what can only be taken as censorship has lead me to stear directly clear of playing SL and many of their economic descisions (on gambling, on banks and so on) strike me as nothing short of lunatic and they are never properly discussed or explained to the community. Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know. /c ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote: Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know. The pub? Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote: Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know. The pub? +1 funny, +1 insightful. The pub does offer some of the benefits of the kind of platform I am looking for, plus beer, but it doesn't offer me the tools to build and interact with 3D models. I could bring my own tools and raw materials to the pub and start working (ok, let's start with a two-meter-high wooden box here!), but I suspect I might get thrown out. Not to mention the time and cost as opposed to a virtual alternative. Also, the other eight customers are not likely to want to play with and comment on my work, whereas in a virtual community of thousands I should be able to find a few who happen to be interested in the same kinds of designs as I am. /c ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
On 15 Nov 2008 at 12:56, Claes Wallin wrote: Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know. It's still in beta, currently more limited and with a somewhat different focus, but Metaplace, Raph Koster's company. https://www.metaplace.com/ AndrewC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
At 07:39 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote: Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know. The pub? Charlie reaches for paper towel to clean screen . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
At 07:57 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, Claes Wallin wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote: Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know. The pub? +1 funny, +1 insightful. The pub does offer some of the benefits of the kind of platform I am looking for, plus beer, but it doesn't offer me the tools to build and interact with 3D models. Some of the folks you meet there become even more model-like and build more 3D (as opposed to flat) structure the longer you stay at the pub. (At least that is what I have been told.) . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
On 16/11/2008, at 12:57 AM, Claes Wallin wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote: Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know. The pub? +1 funny, +1 insightful. Glad you liked it. ;) The pub does offer some of the benefits of the kind of platform I am looking for, plus beer, but it doesn't offer me the tools to build and interact with 3D models. Yeah, my pub looks oddly 2D after a few pints too. :-D Being slightly more serious, the only online communities I'm involved with are through mailing lists, and to an extent a couple of blogs and one forum. Interactive worlds are something I'd rather keep on the level of single-player games, rather than MMORPGs. Not sure why I feel that way, but maybe I just like maintaining fairly solid walls around my real life. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
I've sent you something I hope you'll be interested in offlist, but from a personal standpoint I'm highly uncomfortable with their general policys - the Linden's application of what can only be taken as censorship has lead me to stear directly clear of playing SL and many of their economic descisions (on gambling, on banks and so on) strike me as nothing short of lunatic and they are never properly discussed or explained to the community. AndrewC On 12 Nov 2008 at 19:08, Nick Arnett wrote: Anybody here a Second Life participant? I'm talking to them about perhaps joining the company... but I'm barely familiar with it as a user. Any suggestions about things to try, etc. I'm most interested in metrics and such, things that are or could be measured, which has to do mostly with the economy, of course. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've sent you something I hope you'll be interested in offlist, but from a personal standpoint I'm highly uncomfortable with their general policys - the Linden's application of what can only be taken as censorship has lead me to stear directly clear of playing SL and many of their economic descisions (on gambling, on banks and so on) strike me as nothing short of lunatic and they are never properly discussed or explained to the community. Interesting... very interesting. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
Nick Arnett wrote: Anybody here a Second Life participant? I'm talking to them about perhaps joining the company... but I'm barely familiar with it as a user. Any suggestions about things to try, etc. I'm most interested in metrics and such, things that are or could be measured, which has to do mostly with the economy, of course. For a quickstart tutorial on controls etc, I would recommend going to the House of Sweden. Got me started better than Beginner's Island. I just registered recently and have barely familiarized myself with the available options and tools and the world as such... But one place you should definitely check out is the steam punk area. Search for Babbage Square in the built-in search interface. There is a box of cool Victorian clothes at the railway station (once you figure out how to use it; consider it an exercise in SL controls). /c ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question: Second Life?
Anybody here a Second Life participant? I'm talking to them about perhaps joining the company... but I'm barely familiar with it as a user. Any suggestions about things to try, etc. I'm most interested in metrics and such, things that are or could be measured, which has to do mostly with the economy, of course. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: Anybody here a Second Life participant? I'm talking to them about perhaps joining the company... but I'm barely familiar with it as a user. Any suggestions about things to try, etc. I'm most interested in metrics and such, things that are or could be measured, which has to do mostly with the economy, of course. I don't do SL -- hell, I'm still working out the intricacies of my *first* life -- but in more general terms, I've got an ear to the ground on various aspects of work to be found in the areas of Web design and graphics. In what capacity would you be hiring on with them? Full-time, part, freelance, work-for-hire? I might or might not be able to offer insight on broader terms. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I don't do SL -- hell, I'm still working out the intricacies of my *first* life -- but in more general terms, I've got an ear to the ground on various aspects of work to be found in the areas of Web design and graphics. In what capacity would you be hiring on with them? Full-time, part, freelance, work-for-hire? I might or might not be able to offer insight on broader terms. The brief description is that I do social network analytics. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question: Second Life?
Anybody here a Second Life participant? I'm talking to them about perhaps joining the company... but I'm barely familiar with it as a user. Any suggestions about things to try, etc. I'm most interested in metrics and such, things that are or could be measured, which has to do mostly with the economy, of course. Nick since i lost my job, the brinlist has taken on a second life for me, and that is really sad!~} jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Second Life?
On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: The brief description is that I do social network analytics. Whoah, OK, well outside my purview. -- Warren ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question
My wife's computer, running Vista, has been showing a very funny symptom. It can no longer access the internet through our home wireless. It can see and access the other computers on the network, it can access the internet through other wireless routers, it can access the internet through a cable connected to the wireless router. Does anyone have any ideas what happened? My guess is a switch was accidently set, but I don't know how to get to it. With XP, I think I could find it, but Vista is baffling me. I've rebooted everything Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Dan M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife's computer, running Vista, Although I'm tempted to say, Well, there's your problem... If it is making a connection to your wireless router, but behaving this way, it sounds like a gateway or DNS server address problem... make sure that your wireless connection is set to get the gateway address and DNS servers via DHCP. If either of those is wrong, you'd get the symptoms you are describing. Hope that helps... Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
Nick Arnett wrote: If it is making a connection to your wireless router, but behaving this way, it sounds like a gateway or DNS server address problem... make sure that your wireless connection is set to get the gateway address and DNS servers via DHCP. If either of those is wrong, you'd get the symptoms you are describing. I've found that often just right-clicking on the wireless connection icon and selecting Repair can help you figure out what is wrong (in both XP and Vista). I believe that if either are the above problems are the case Repair actually should figure it out and fix things automatically... If it's something more complicated the step that Repair fails on can yield a lot of information and potential next steps. If you are seeing other computers but not internet websites you also may want to double/triple check the connection settings in your browser as well, particularly for any installed proxy/VPN set up. Also double check all of your installed firewall software (don't forget to check if your virus scanner or other third party security tool is doing firewalling of any sort). -- --Max Battcher-- http://www.worldmaker.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
On 24 Jul 2008, at 23:04, Nick Arnett wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Dan M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife's computer, running Vista, Although I'm tempted to say, Well, there's your problem... Even Windows fans avoid Vista :-) Progress Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ I wish developing great products was as easy as writing a check. If so, then Microsoft would have great products. - Steve Jobs ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
At 08:58 PM Friday 5/11/2007, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: On 5/11/2007 7:45:36 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? I need to open something to [attempt to] repair it, and it is held together with that type of screws, and since all I have are regular hex keys (some plain, some with ball ends), I need to know what kind of tool to get in order to remove and replace those screws. I've tried searching on-line for things like hex key and bump together, with no luck so far . . . TIA. Easy one! What you have is an Allen Head Security Screw AKA Allen Head Tamper Resistant Screw. That little bump is there to keep people (unqualified people you might say) out. I have several security tip sets and they are somewhat hard to find. I know you can get them at Frys (well.an overpriced mediocre set), What think you of the two on this page? http://www.rainbowkits.com/tools/tools.html and I have found them at a couple of computer/electronics stores. (The kind of electronics store that sells resistors and capacitors mind you) When I think of electronics store I always think of Radio Shack before thinking of Circuit City. (It does seem that there are a couple of Fry's locations in Georgia, both off on the NE side of Atlanta, which would be a 3-hour trip each way assuming traffic on 285 was moving and not its frequent parking-lot status, and the gas for the trip would probably be more than the price of both of the sets at the above link . . . and all the ones with Tamper Resistant in the name I see listed on their web site are star/Torx drivers . . . http://shop4.outpost.com/search?search_type=regularsqxts=1query_string=tamper+Resistantcat=0submit.x=8submit.y=10 which would do the job if I wanted to vandalize the men's room at the Wal-Mart Supercenter I was at on Saturday, but would not help me fix what I need to here . . . ) -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
- Original Message - From: Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 4:16 AM Subject: Re: Irregulars Question: Screws At 08:58 PM Friday 5/11/2007, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: On 5/11/2007 7:45:36 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? I need to open something to [attempt to] repair it, and it is held together with that type of screws, and since all I have are regular hex keys (some plain, some with ball ends), I need to know what kind of tool to get in order to remove and replace those screws. I've tried searching on-line for things like hex key and bump together, with no luck so far . . . TIA. Easy one! What you have is an Allen Head Security Screw AKA Allen Head Tamper Resistant Screw. That little bump is there to keep people (unqualified people you might say) out. I have several security tip sets and they are somewhat hard to find. I know you can get them at Frys (well.an overpriced mediocre set), What think you of the two on this page? http://www.rainbowkits.com/tools/tools.html The one at the top is pretty typical for the price, but the one at the bottom is a very good deal. Actually has more tips that I have in any single kit. For 5 bucks more it is a steal! and I have found them at a couple of computer/electronics stores. (The kind of electronics store that sells resistors and capacitors mind you) When I think of electronics store I always think of Radio Shack before thinking of Circuit City. Actually, I was refering to the kind of electronics stores that handle electronic components such as resistors and diodes and caps. We have a few here and I would suspect there has to be at least one in your area. Where do your TV repairmen get parts? (It does seem that there are a couple of Fry's locations in Georgia, both off on the NE side of Atlanta, which would be a 3-hour trip each way assuming traffic on 285 was moving and not its frequent parking-lot status, and the gas for the trip would probably be more than the price of both of the sets at the above link . . . and all the ones with Tamper Resistant in the name I see listed on their web site are star/Torx drivers . . . http://shop4.outpost.com/search?search_type=regularsqxts=1query_string=tamper+Resistantcat=0submit.x=8submit.y=10 which would do the job if I wanted to vandalize the men's room at the Wal-Mart Supercenter I was at on Saturday, but would not help me fix what I need to here . . . ) http://www.calcentron.com/Pages/Boxer_Home_Page/Boxer_TOA-TP-62.html This is the set I have seen sold at my local Frys. I have no idea why it isn't sold online. I own this set, but bought it at an electronic parts store. xponent Fixit Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? I need to open something to [attempt to] repair it, and it is held together with that type of screws, and since all I have are regular hex keys (some plain, some with ball ends), I need to know what kind of tool to get in order to remove and replace those screws. I've tried searching on-line for things like hex key and bump together, with no luck so far . . . -- Ronn! :) A bit late, but may still be helpful info. One of my favorite professional websites is _http://www.thomasnet.com/_ (http://www.thomasnet.com/) Started as a clearing house of equipment/industry/manufacturers of stuff that many people used to find ergonomic tools/options, but has drastically morphed. Great for finding tools you have a concept for but don't know where to find (for me the first things I looked for were pneumatic chisel and pallet handling devices). It is a monster site now, but you can link to hundreds/thousands of catalogs from one site which helps when you are window shopping and costing things. Catching up, Dee ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
On 12 May 2007, at 03:42, Robert Seeberger wrote: You would think Wikipedia would have an article that clarifies the various security screw types. The best set I own has around 54 different tips in about a dozen different styles. Makes my life a lot easier when I have to work on a fire alarm system, a building security system, or the odd piece of telephone equipment. These days you run into security screws in places where they really aren't needed. I had to open my PVR to replace the hard drive out of warranty a couple of months ago and fortunately had a T10 Torx Security bit in a toolbox I happened to have. I also happen to have an M-830B digital multimeter though so I happen to have some odd things. Anyhow I replaced the dead 40GB drive with a 250GB drive and can now record a lot more stuff! Whole Seasons Unwatched Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ You are coming to a sad realization. Cancel or Allow? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
At 09:42 PM Friday 5/11/2007, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Irregulars Question: Screws On 12/05/2007, at 10:45 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? Torx. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx Over here, Torx only and specifically refers to the t-series star tips. Check. And I have those in a variety of sizes, including some which are both bigger and smaller than I have ever needed up until now. The type of tool Ronn! needs is easiest to find if referred to as Tamper Proof, Tamper Resistant, or Security. As I finally realized right before I saw the preceding message from you. (I was not exactly expecting Bryce Whatshisname to start addressing me when I went to that website, however.) You would think Wikipedia would have an article that clarifies the various security screw types. The best set I own has around 54 different tips in about a dozen different styles. I have one (or maybe more) of those which in addition to flat, Phillips, regular Allen/hex, Torx/star, hex-head (essentially sockets or nut drivers) has such things as bits for those with square depressions (Robertson) but apparently no tamper resistant Allen/hex (actually I thought I might have some but of course when I looked they were all plain rather than tamper resistant). Makes my life a lot easier when I have to work on a fire alarm system, a building security system, or the odd piece of telephone equipment. I noticed that the new box the phone company installed on the outside of the hose has two screws which allow the cover to be opened to allow access. One is iirc a Phillips head which opens the part they think a customer might have a reason to open and one of these tamper-resistant Allen screws to get into the rest of it. These days you run into security screws in places where they really aren't needed. Like here. While I'm sure that the company would make the claim that the ones which are currently a problem for me are there to prevent kids from opening it and getting their fingers into where they could get mangled or shocked, and also to keep adults who don't know much better from doing the same, I have a suspicion that one reason they were used was because for perhaps a few cents more to use such a screw rather than a more common type they would significantly increase the likelihood that when a malfunction occurred the average consumer would simply throw the unit in the trash and purchase a whole new one. (My expectation is that the problem is something like a fuse inside which has blown but why make it possible for the end user to check and replace a 25¢ fuse when they can make you buy a whole new one, since someone they would consider qualified service personnel would probably charge more for labor to unscrew the back and replace the fuse than the cost of a whole new device . . . maybe after all this question does concern that other type of screw . . . ) Anyway, thanks! xponent Screw Guns Maru rob Probably More Like Screw The Consumer Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: Screws
Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? I need to open something to [attempt to] repair it, and it is held together with that type of screws, and since all I have are regular hex keys (some plain, some with ball ends), I need to know what kind of tool to get in order to remove and replace those screws. I've tried searching on-line for things like hex key and bump together, with no luck so far . . . TIA. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
On 12/05/2007, at 10:45 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? Torx. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
In a message dated 5/11/2007 6:36:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Torx. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx Charlie To prevent theft, this type of screw has been used exclusively in northern Iraq. Yes, I am going to say it: Torx are for Kurds. Thank you for your kind attention. Vilyehm ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
On 5/11/2007 7:45:36 PM, Ronn! Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? I need to open something to [attempt to] repair it, and it is held together with that type of screws, and since all I have are regular hex keys (some plain, some with ball ends), I need to know what kind of tool to get in order to remove and replace those screws. I've tried searching on-line for things like hex key and bump together, with no luck so far . . . TIA. Easy one! What you have is an Allen Head Security Screw AKA Allen Head Tamper Resistant Screw. That little bump is there to keep people (unqualified people you might say) out. I have several security tip sets and they are somewhat hard to find. I know you can get them at Frys (well.an overpriced mediocre set), and I have found them at a couple of computer/electronics stores. (The kind of electronics store that sells resistors and capacitors mind you) You won't find them at a hardware store. http://www.brycefastener.com/?gclid=COaY7OXCh4wCFQlFUAoddxx86Q But you can find them if you are persistant. xponent Tools Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Screws
- Original Message - From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Irregulars Question: Screws On 12/05/2007, at 10:45 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head which require a tool which is variously called an Allen wrench or a hex key to turn them. Then there are some which have a hexagonal depression in the head but instead of being flat the bottom of the depression has a raised bump in the center, which means that a regular Allen wrench or hex key will not go far enough down into the depression to turn them. (Which I think is the point.) Any of you engineering types or handypersons know what the latter are properly called? Torx. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx Over here, Torx only and specifically refers to the t-series star tips. The type of tool Ronn! needs is easiest to find if referred to as Tamper Proof, Tamper Resistant, or Security. You would think Wikipedia would have an article that clarifies the various security screw types. The best set I own has around 54 different tips in about a dozen different styles. Makes my life a lot easier when I have to work on a fire alarm system, a building security system, or the odd piece of telephone equipment. These days you run into security screws in places where they really aren't needed. xponent Screw Guns Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question for Alberto or anyone else who might have a suggestion . . .
Question forwarded from another list: quote I need a book to teach portugue with a teacher's book, a student's book and a workbook to a calssroom students that`s what I call a program book, /quote Any ideas? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question for Alberto or anyone else who might have a suggestion . . .
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Question forwarded from another list: quote I need a book to teach portugue with a teacher's book, a student's book and a workbook to a calssroom students that`s what I call a program book, /quote Any ideas? No :-/ Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: smell of CH2O (formaldehyde)
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: snippage ...Using Mexican vanilla (prepared with propylene glycol# as well as grain alcohol) #Yep, radiator antifreeze -- I _do not_ advise it for consumption at all! Actually most antifreeze is _ethyl_ glycol, which tastes sweet and so the taste attracts dogs to drink from puddles and then the metabolic pathway which breaks down EtOH in human and animal bodies tries to break it down and the result is formaldehyde which wrecks the liver, leading in a few hours to days the whole cadaver being packed in formaldehyde . . . (Yes, I know that _you_ know that. ;) ) Whoops, yes indeed. But at least some brand of mexican vanilla had 'propyleneo glycolica' (badly misspelled, but that's the best I can recall from over 6 years ago!) on the label. I wonder if it has a sweet taste too? Debbi No Ketotic Breath Here! Maru ;) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: smell of CH2O (formaldehyde)
At 04:48 PM Monday 10/23/2006, Deborah Harrell wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: snippage ...Using Mexican vanilla (prepared with propylene glycol# as well as grain alcohol) #Yep, radiator antifreeze -- I _do not_ advise it for consumption at all! Actually most antifreeze is _ethyl_ glycol, which tastes sweet and so the taste attracts dogs to drink from puddles and then the metabolic pathway which breaks down EtOH in human and animal bodies tries to break it down and the result is formaldehyde which wrecks the liver, leading in a few hours to days the whole cadaver being packed in formaldehyde . . . (Yes, I know that _you_ know that. ;) ) Whoops, yes indeed. But at least some brand of mexican vanilla had 'propyleneo glycolica' (badly misspelled, but that's the best I can recall from over 6 years ago!) on the label. I wonder if it has a sweet taste too? Debbi No Ketotic Breath Here! Maru ;) Nor here, so I wouldn't know how either tastes. I've never even felt an urge to chug 1,2,3-propanetriol, much less the trinitrate ester. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: London Hotels
I may go to London in two weeks, and I know nothing about good [breakfast included: my company pays for hotel but not for food, and I am in no financial position to have extra expenses!] hotels. Any suggestions? I would prefer those that are close to Lanesborough Place or to the subway line that passes through Hyde Park Corder. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
At 07:45 PM Friday 10/13/2006, Charlie Bell wrote: On 14/10/2006, at 8:42 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: (I have one of those 5 CD changers that Panasonic marketed several years ago, but they apparently quit making it or updating drivers for it for Win98 or higher, so it sits in an old box gathering dust. 'Twas really useful, too . . . ) No third party drivers? Useful for Riven... :) Charlie I've looked at the various driver sites on-line and left inquiries on some of the bulletin boards but no one seems to know of anything. If anyone has any suggestions of places to look . . . I suppose in principle I could make an effort to learn enough to write one myself. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Irregulars Question: London Hotels
I may go to London in two weeks, and I know nothing about good [breakfast included: my company pays for hotel but not for food, and I am in no financial position to have extra expenses!] hotels. Any suggestions? Alberto Monteiro That depends, do you want the room by the night or by the hour? :-) Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
On 13/10/2006, at 9:26 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I'm looking for a program or method to be able to copy a CD-ROM onto the HD and install it and run it from there. Someone on another list said there is a program called Liquid CD which does this on the Mac. I of course am looking for something for WinXP. Any suggestions? Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120%. Will allow you to mount a CD image (ISO or nrg or whatever) to a virtual drive. Charlie Support Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
At 07:54 AM Friday 10/13/2006, Charlie Bell wrote: On 13/10/2006, at 9:26 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I'm looking for a program or method to be able to copy a CD-ROM onto the HD and install it and run it from there. Someone on another list said there is a program called Liquid CD which does this on the Mac. I of course am looking for something for WinXP. Any suggestions? Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120%. Will allow you to mount a CD image (ISO or nrg or whatever) to a virtual drive. More that one, or will every CD image have to have a different drive letter? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
On 14/10/2006, at 12:59 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 07:54 AM Friday 10/13/2006, Charlie Bell wrote: On 13/10/2006, at 9:26 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I'm looking for a program or method to be able to copy a CD-ROM onto the HD and install it and run it from there. Someone on another list said there is a program called Liquid CD which does this on the Mac. I of course am looking for something for WinXP. Any suggestions? Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120%. Will allow you to mount a CD image (ISO or nrg or whatever) to a virtual drive. More that one, or will every CD image have to have a different drive letter? Alcohol mounts one at a time to its virtual drive on whatever letter you specify when you install it, but remembers previous images in its main window so it's a breeze to swap them. I use it to no cd a couple of games, and to install backed up software off a dvd image containing cd images. I've not used Daemon Tools in years so I can't recall how that works. And I've just remembered that Nero has a disc image mounter, and I think that one allows multiple images. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: smell of CH2O (formaldeide)
Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. I mistranslated. It's not Phenol, it's Formol (formaldeide, CH2O, whatever)... I think it's clothes that are contaminated. sudden flashback to Gross Anatomy, when everyone on the elevator *knew* you were a freshman, because of that distinctive I've been dissecting a cadaver fragrance...eeuw! Uh, good luck... Most of us kept a couple of sets of clothing dedicated to that class, and threw them away when done. But you could try using rubbing alcohol or some other organic solvent; I do not recommend gasoline, however, although some do. Using Mexican vanilla (prepared with propylene glycol# as well as grain alcohol) might work also. #Yep, radiator antifreeze -- I _do not_ advise it for consumption at all! Debbi We Could Clear The Chosen Bar Out In Moments Maru:) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
At 01:04 PM Friday 10/13/2006, Charlie Bell wrote: On 14/10/2006, at 12:59 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 07:54 AM Friday 10/13/2006, Charlie Bell wrote: On 13/10/2006, at 9:26 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I'm looking for a program or method to be able to copy a CD-ROM onto the HD and install it and run it from there. Someone on another list said there is a program called Liquid CD which does this on the Mac. I of course am looking for something for WinXP. Any suggestions? Daemon Tools or Alcohol 120%. Will allow you to mount a CD image (ISO or nrg or whatever) to a virtual drive. More that one, or will every CD image have to have a different drive letter? Alcohol mounts one at a time to its virtual drive on whatever letter you specify when you install it, but remembers previous images in its main window so it's a breeze to swap them. I use it to no cd a couple of games, and to install backed up software off a dvd image containing cd images. I've not used Daemon Tools in years so I can't recall how that works. And I've just remembered that Nero has a disc image mounter, and I think that one allows multiple images. Charlie It does. Thank you for mentioning that, since I use it all the time for burning discs. Duh. Didn't even try to find it there (mainly because someone on another list mentioned something else but as yet hasn't followed through with a name). And Nero is so easy to use that it required no attempt to look up anything, unlike Alcohol with it's optimistically-named help file. Does it matter where I put the ISO files on the HD? There are several programs (including iirc some different versions of one program I use for class) which fall into the CD required to run category: is it OK to dump the various images into one folder and then pick the one or two I need when I need them? And do I have to restart to change the CD image in the drive or can I do that as easily as changing physical CDs in the physical drive. (I have one of those 5 CD changers that Panasonic marketed several years ago, but they apparently quit making it or updating drivers for it for Win98 or higher, so it sits in an old box gathering dust. 'Twas really useful, too . . . ) -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: smell of CH2O (formaldehyde)
At 02:40 PM Friday 10/13/2006, Deborah Harrell wrote: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. I mistranslated. It's not Phenol, it's Formol (formaldeide, CH2O, whatever)... I think it's clothes that are contaminated. sudden flashback to Gross Anatomy, when everyone on the elevator *knew* you were a freshman, because of that distinctive I've been dissecting a cadaver fragrance...eeuw! Howcum you think they call it gross . . . :P Uh, good luck... Most of us kept a couple of sets of clothing dedicated to that class, and threw them away when done. But you could try using rubbing alcohol or some other organic solvent; I do not recommend gasoline, however, although some do. Using Mexican vanilla (prepared with propylene glycol# as well as grain alcohol) might work also. My first suggestion (which you may have read by now) was to hang it outdoors to air for several hours. Though I said that the effectiveness of that would depend on just how much formaldehyde there was on the garment(s) in question. I agree that you might next try an organic solvent which will not damage the fabric or finish (such as waterproofing), and alcohol might be a first choice for most, unless some sort of home cleaning fluid is available there. (Some places in the US you can get something called by the brand name Thoro or other brands which is intended as a spot or stain remover which might be worth a try. It is reasonably safe: IOW, it is not CCl4 . . . )) If you ever get most of the it out, you might try that Febreze spray to hide the last bit of odor and make it smell fresh. Or perhaps hang it in a plastic bag with some fabric freshener sheets for a week or so. (I am assuming that the spray and sheets are available where Alberto's friend is located. If not, maybe it will suggest something which is.) #Yep, radiator antifreeze -- I _do not_ advise it for consumption at all! Actually most antifreeze is _ethyl_ glycol, which tastes sweet and so the taste attracts dogs to drink from puddles and then the metabolic pathway which breaks down EtOH in human and animal bodies tries to break it down and the result is formaldehyde which wrecks the liver, leading in a few hours to days the whole cadaver being packed in formaldehyde . . . (Yes, I know that _you_ know that. ;) ) -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question
On 14/10/2006, at 8:42 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: It does. Thank you for mentioning that, since I use it all the time for burning discs. Duh. Didn't even try to find it there (mainly because someone on another list mentioned something else but as yet hasn't followed through with a name). And Nero is so easy to use that it required no attempt to look up anything, unlike Alcohol with it's optimistically-named help file. Never needed the help file for Alcohol, I though it was all pretty self-explanatory... Does it matter where I put the ISO files on the HD? Not really. Put them in a folder, on a separate data partition if you have one. Don't forget to defrag after. :) There are several programs (including iirc some different versions of one program I use for class) which fall into the CD required to run category: is it OK to dump the various images into one folder and then pick the one or two I need when I need them? And do I have to restart to change the CD image in the drive or can I do that as easily as changing physical CDs in the physical drive. Think you can just unmount the current image and mount the new one. Only to need to restart if you're turning off the virtual drive, IIRC. (I have one of those 5 CD changers that Panasonic marketed several years ago, but they apparently quit making it or updating drivers for it for Win98 or higher, so it sits in an old box gathering dust. 'Twas really useful, too . . . ) No third party drivers? Useful for Riven... :) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question
I'm looking for a program or method to be able to copy a CD-ROM onto the HD and install it and run it from there. Someone on another list said there is a program called Liquid CD which does this on the Mac. I of course am looking for something for WinXP. Any suggestions? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: smell of Phenol
Does anyone know how to eliminate the smell of Phenol? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: smell of Phenol
At 11:44 AM Wednesday 10/11/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Does anyone know how to eliminate the smell of Phenol? Alberto Monteiro Since you ask, I presume it is already too late for Don't use it in the first place? What do you wish to remove the smell from? (IOW, presumably you wish to eliminate the odor without damaging whatever the odor is on in the process.) -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: smell of Phenol
In a message dated 10/11/2006 9:54:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 11:44 AM Wednesday 10/11/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Does anyone know how to eliminate the smell of Phenol? Alberto Monteiro Since you ask, I presume it is already too late for Don't use it in the first place? What do you wish to remove the smell from? (IOW, presumably you wish to eliminate the odor without damaging whatever the odor is on in the process.) Gee Ron, I expected you to say: Cut off your nose. That eliminates all smells. I once had to fan a book with baking soda to get the cigar smell out. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: smell of CH2O (formaldeide)
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Does anyone know how to eliminate the smell of Phenol? Yikes. I mistranslated. It's not Phenol, it's Formol (formaldeide, CH2O, whatever) Since you ask, I presume it is already too late for Don't use it in the first place? It's not for me; but I can't resist showing Wisdom in everything, even if I have to contact Higher Authorities :-) What do you wish to remove the smell from? (IOW, presumably you wish to eliminate the odor without damaging whatever the odor is on in the process.) I think it's clothes that are contaminated. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: smell of CH2O (formaldehyde)
At 01:15 PM Wednesday 10/11/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Does anyone know how to eliminate the smell of Phenol? Yikes. I mistranslated. It's not Phenol, it's Formol (formaldeide, CH2O, whatever) Since you ask, I presume it is already too late for Don't use it in the first place? It's not for me; but I can't resist showing Wisdom in everything, even if I have to contact Higher Authorities :-) What do you wish to remove the smell from? (IOW, presumably you wish to eliminate the odor without damaging whatever the odor is on in the process.) I think it's clothes that are contaminated. Alberto Monteiro If it's frex something that was used as a dry-cleaning fluid or to treat them for insects, the first thing I would suggest is hanging them outside in the fresh air for at least several hours. Twist the hangers sideways and/or use extra hangers or something to prop them open so the air can circulate both inside and out. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question: English
I may be assigned to a course in London, and the programme includes the following: (...) will pay for the cost of the training courses and materials. Your organization will have to cover the costs of the flights and boarding expenses for nominated participants. What's the meaning of _boarding_ here? It seemed that it was referring to the airport expenses, but the lack of mention about hotel and food suggests otherwise. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: English
Alberto said: What's the meaning of _boarding_ here? It seemed that it was referring to the airport expenses, but the lack of mention about hotel and food suggests otherwise. Boarding suggests the price of the hotel to me. Rich ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: English
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I may be assigned to a course in London, and the programme includes the following: (...) will pay for the cost of the training courses and materials. Your organization will have to cover the costs of the flights and boarding expenses for nominated participants. What's the meaning of _boarding_ here? It seemed that it was referring to the airport expenses, but the lack of mention about hotel and food suggests otherwise. Hotel, probably food as well. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Irregulars question: English
Alberto Monteiro wrote: What's the meaning of _boarding_ here? It seemed that it was referring to the airport expenses, but the lack of mention about hotel and food suggests otherwise. It sounds like room and board to me. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question about generic programming languages
Which language is _the simplest_ to program things like a binary file that packs things? Something like the specification of a graphic file could be like: 4 bytes for the header: AVFM 4 bytes (little endian) for the x dimension 4 bytes (little endian) for the y dimension (R,G,B) as 2 bytes big endian for each, from (x = 1, y = 1) to (x = 1, y = (max y)) etc. And the language would translate this as: byte[4] AVFM int4le maxx int4le maxy loop y = 1 to maxy loop x = 1 to maxx int2be R(x,y) int2be G(x,y) int2be B(x,y) end x end y Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question about generic programming languages
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which language is _the simplest_ to program things like a binary file that packs things? Something like the specification of a graphic file could be like: 4 bytes for the header: AVFM 4 bytes (little endian) for the x dimension 4 bytes (little endian) for the y dimension (R,G,B) as 2 bytes big endian for each, from (x = 1, y = 1) to (x = 1, y = (max y)) etc. And the language would translate this as: byte[4] AVFM int4le maxx int4le maxy loop y = 1 to maxy loop x = 1 to maxx int2be R(x,y) int2be G(x,y) int2be B(x,y) end x end y C / C++. Looks like a simple structure or class'l do ya. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
On Behalf Of William T Goodall http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0003QIFHG/103-9218007-6499853 Cheaper, bigger, has print server. What's the catch? I went with a Buffalo Technologies LinkStation, in case anyone is wondering. I had another friend who recommended this one as well. Thanks for the help all who responded! - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
On 18 Mar 2006, at 11:13PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:54 AM, Horn, John wrote: Why the print server? There are many printers now that sit directly on the network, HP make a couple with ethernet support (set one up for my other half's folks last week). Or get a router with the print server if you really need one. Netgear do a wireless router with print server. That way, the NAS can be a simple one that just does the one thing. Primarily because I already have a printer that doesn't have that option and I have a router that doesn't have a built in print server. As I need more storage space I am hoping to kill a couple of birds at the same time. Sure. I know you're looking at the more elegant solution, but it may be easier and less expensive to get the NAS without print server and change either the printer or the router. Anyway, assuming you're looking at around 100 - 150Gb external storage to start with, try this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B9X6PS/103-4060112-4003023? v=glancen=172282 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0003QIFHG/103-9218007-6499853 Cheaper, bigger, has print server. What's the catch? -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Our products just aren't engineered for security. - Brian Valentine, senior vice president in charge of Microsoft's Windows development team. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
On Mar 19, 2006, at 11:30 PM, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0003QIFHG/103-9218007-6499853 Cheaper, bigger, has print server. What's the catch? Shit documentation... but other than that i dunno. Good spot. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
William T Goodall wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0003QIFHG/103-9218007-6499853 Cheaper, bigger, has print server. What's the catch? Sweet! If Dan doesn't get the current spare computer fixed up to be a print server before his 2-week vacation is over, I'm going to strongly recommend he get this for that purpose. :) (Documentation sucking never stopped him on setting up electronic equipment. Instructions sucking has had him throw up his hands on assemble-it-yourself furniture, though, which is why I put all that stuff together, or at least if one of us is going to do it alone, it's me, not him. Reasonable division of labor, yes?) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
At 09:53 AM Sunday 3/19/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: William T Goodall wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0003QIFHG/103-9218007-6499853 Cheaper, bigger, has print server. What's the catch? Sweet! If Dan doesn't get the current spare computer fixed up to be a print server before his 2-week vacation is over, I'm going to strongly recommend he get this for that purpose. :) (Documentation sucking never stopped him on setting up electronic equipment. Instructions sucking has had him throw up his hands on assemble-it-yourself furniture, though, which is why I put all that stuff together, or at least if one of us is going to do it alone, it's me, not him. Reasonable division of labor, yes?) Julia Remember the story about the old handyman who, when someone asked how he could put things together without once looking at the instructions replied that he never learned how to read, and when you can't read, you have to think . . . That's so obviously an old joke, as so many products today come with the instructions in some sort of cartoon form (I figure that is less for customers who can't read as to save the trouble and expense of translating the instructions into numerous languages). Some of those take awhile to figure out and make sure you are interpreting the drawing correctly. They also do away with the fun of being able to read, Rosetta-stone-like, the same instructions in several different languages and so perhaps learn some words in a new language. (Okay, perhaps the number of people who consider that fun is rather small . . . ) --Ronn! :) Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too? -- Red Skelton (Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
On Behalf Of Charlie Bell On Mar 18, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Horn, John wrote: Any of you have any experience with Network Attached Storage drives? I'm interested in finding one that is not too expensive, can be hooked into my router (which probably all of them can) and has a built in print server. Why the print server? There are many printers now that sit directly on the network, HP make a couple with ethernet support (set one up for my other half's folks last week). Or get a router with the print server if you really need one. Netgear do a wireless router with print server. That way, the NAS can be a simple one that just does the one thing. Primarily because I already have a printer that doesn't have that option and I have a router that doesn't have a built in print server. As I need more storage space I am hoping to kill a couple of birds at the same time. I'm tired of having to have one of my computers on just to print. Also, it opens all sorts of potential security holes... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
On Mar 19, 2006, at 4:54 AM, Horn, John wrote: Why the print server? There are many printers now that sit directly on the network, HP make a couple with ethernet support (set one up for my other half's folks last week). Or get a router with the print server if you really need one. Netgear do a wireless router with print server. That way, the NAS can be a simple one that just does the one thing. Primarily because I already have a printer that doesn't have that option and I have a router that doesn't have a built in print server. As I need more storage space I am hoping to kill a couple of birds at the same time. Sure. I know you're looking at the more elegant solution, but it may be easier and less expensive to get the NAS without print server and change either the printer or the router. Anyway, assuming you're looking at around 100 - 150Gb external storage to start with, try this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B9X6PS/103-4060112-4003023? v=glancen=172282 I'm tired of having to have one of my computers on just to print. That I understand. Also, it opens all sorts of potential security holes... Shouldn't do, if your NAT router is set up correctly. But anyway. Hope the above link helps! Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
Any of you have any experience with Network Attached Storage drives? I'm interested in finding one that is not too expensive, can be hooked into my router (which probably all of them can) and has a built in print server. I had a very difficult time trying to find information in my searching on the net. I either turn up reviews of drives that are too expensive or don't have the print server. Or the reviews are 3-4 years old and out of date... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Network Attached Storage Drives
On Mar 18, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Horn, John wrote: Any of you have any experience with Network Attached Storage drives? I'm interested in finding one that is not too expensive, can be hooked into my router (which probably all of them can) and has a built in print server. Why the print server? There are many printers now that sit directly on the network, HP make a couple with ethernet support (set one up for my other half's folks last week). Or get a router with the print server if you really need one. Netgear do a wireless router with print server. That way, the NAS can be a simple one that just does the one thing. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions
On Sep 5, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 9/5/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'll be a while 'til you can get a copy of OS X that will run on non-Apple Intel hardware, but in the meanwhile, FreeBSD itself is very well-regarded from a security standpoint and has all the requisite bits and pieces. And when you *can* get a copy of OS X that will run on arbitrary Intel hardware, you will be in for the treat of your Unixy life. I assume you meant to prefix legally in front of every ocurrence of a copy, correct? A1. Of course. I used to work for Apple, for goodness' sake! A2. Hell, no. I sold my Apple stock years ago. A3. That's YOUR problem. I'm only theorizing about what might be possible. I won't have to answer to Apple's lawyers should you choose to cross any legal lines. (Don't forget, I used to work for Apple, so I could have a few handy phone numbers in my address book.) (And don't forget, I sold my Apple stock years ago. What do I care what you do?) Dave And Every Copy I Have is 100% Legal Land ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars question: Linux distributions
On many occasions, including at 04:48 AM Wednesday 8/31/2005, William T Goodall has signed off with: It is our belief, however, that serious professional users will run out of things they can do with UNIX. - Ken Olsen, President of DEC, 1984. It always reminds me that my experience with Unix dates back to (roughly) that era, and was indeed on a DEC system. For some time now I have been planning to put some version of Linux on whatever machine I had to make it a dual-boot machine¹, but for various reasons have not had the opportunity to do so until now. I've heard several people here comment on their experiences with and preferences for various Linux distributions, so before installing any of the several different ones on CD or DVD which I have accumulated over the past few years, I thought I'd ask for recommendations (or warnings as to which ones, if any, I should run screaming from ;) ). FWIW, I do not plan at any time in the near future to change over to Linux as the primary OS I use for everything (though I suppose that could eventually change), and I need Windows for compatibility with others in the rest of the world. My primary need right now is to run various (primarily scientific) software packages for which there are no Windows versions, so I am not looking for anything which will take a lot of setting up before I can do anything. OTOH, it would be nice to have as full a set of capabilities as possible so when I have the time and inclination I can expand the uses. So, any recommendations? _ ¹As I mentioned a few days ago when I was trying to get these new hard drives installed, I have the latest version (8.0) of Partition Magic and the Boot Magic program which comes with it in order to accomplish this (though I haven't set them up that way yet), and I left 100GB on the primary hard drive for a Linux partition, just in case those facts are of significance . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions
On 9/5/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, any recommendations? _ ¹As I mentioned a few days ago when I was trying to get these new hard drives installed, I have the latest version (8.0) of Partition Magic and the Boot Magic program which comes with it in order to accomplish this (though I haven't set them up that way yet), and I left 100GB on the primary hard drive for a Linux partition, just in case those facts are of significance . . . -- Ronn! :) Well, Ubuntu plays nice with Windows, as do Fedora and Mandrake. Linspire is (I think) temporarily free as in beer, and SuSe is fairly popular. Of course, there is Debian as well, if you are the moral Free Software type, but Ubuntu is generally more useable. It's good you left a primary partition open. That'll make things easier. If you don't mind building the distro yourself mostly, Gentoo has unparalleled comprehensive package management, which is also the most up-to-date. My personal experience is that it's somewhat unstable (one particular program, ncurses, particularly fubars things up), though as always YMMV. ~Maru is a universe of possibilities. We haven't even *begun* to discuss the other Unixes out there! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions
At 07:57 PM Monday 9/5/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote: On 9/5/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, any recommendations? _ ¹As I mentioned a few days ago when I was trying to get these new hard drives installed, I have the latest version (8.0) of Partition Magic and the Boot Magic program which comes with it in order to accomplish this (though I haven't set them up that way yet), and I left 100GB on the primary hard drive for a Linux partition, just in case those facts are of significance . . . -- Ronn! :) Well, Ubuntu plays nice with Windows, I was just reading about it in today's OSTG update (the first I had heard of it), and was thinking about it . . . as do Fedora and Mandrake. Those are two of the ones I have on CD, although they may not be the most recent releases. Linspire is (I think) temporarily free as in beer, and SuSe is fairly popular. I think I have a version of that somewhere, too. Of course, there is Debian as well, if you are the moral Free Software type, but Ubuntu is generally more useable. It's good you left a primary partition open. That'll make things easier. Just because I sometimes ask simple questions doesn't mean that I am totally stupid. ;) If you don't mind building the distro yourself mostly, Gentoo has unparalleled comprehensive package management, which is also the most up-to-date. For right now I think I want something which will be ready out of the box, and maybe later look at upgrading to something else. My personal experience is that it's somewhat unstable (one particular program, ncurses, particularly fubars things up), though as always YMMV. Speaking of such, I just tried to uninstall a small program I've been using successfully for months and reinstalled it on the new disk. I then spent the next hour or so downloading drivers from M$.com because the computer would not boot up properly. ~Maru is a universe of possibilities. We haven't even *begun* to discuss the other Unixes out there! Any suggestions appreciated. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars question: Linux distributions
On 9/5/05, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 5, 2005, at 6:18 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: is a universe of possibilities. We haven't even *begun* to discuss the other Unixes out there! Any suggestions appreciated. Then I hope you won't mind a mention of FreeBSD, about which I knew nothing until I started using a FreeBSD-based flavor of Unix recently, one from a certain fruit-themed company in Cupertino. It'll be a while 'til you can get a copy of OS X that will run on non-Apple Intel hardware, but in the meanwhile, FreeBSD itself is very well-regarded from a security standpoint and has all the requisite bits and pieces. And when you *can* get a copy of OS X that will run on arbitrary Intel hardware, you will be in for the treat of your Unixy life. Dave I assume you meant to prefix legally in front of every ocurrence of a copy, correct? ~Maru Now me, my opinion of Mac OS X is that adherents of it are merely attempting to raise a prettier monopoly in place of Microsoft. MS learned from the best. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
At 07:10 PM Monday 8/29/2005, Russell Chapman wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I tried several times, playing around with the settings in Ghost (largely guessing, as the help file is not very helpful and the dead tree manual which came in the box even less), but never got any better results than that: a reportedly successful copy to the new drive, but the new drive will not boot up when it is installed as drive 0 and the old drive is removed. That's when I started asking for help. So, any ideas? I'm assuming that you have been using the Windows version of Ghost (in which case your experience is fairly typical). If you can create a DOS boot disk with CD-ROM drivers, that is the ideal. Start the computer in DOS, and run the DOS version of Ghost from the CD, and choose disk to disk copy. If you can't get the CD to work in DOS, it is possible to copy the ghost.exe file to the boot disk and run it from there. This will normally solve the problem. There is still a full menu interface, you don't need all the command line switches, but there's no mouse. (of course, the command line switches can do the whole thing if that's your preference, and that's how we use it because we use it so routinely). Failing that, I think that Partition Magic is going to be your best bet from here on in. Ghost *should* have done the right thing - your theory sounds right, but the 500Gb drives are a new wrinkle that I havent' dealt with before. and Ghost may have trouble with them. We had some trouble going from 40Gb drives to 120Gb drives, and ended up having 30Gb partitions on both (because they are student computers with no data at all, the remaining 90Gb is just wasted, as is most of the 30Gb...). Because we didn't want or need the space, we didn't put much effort into solving the problem. Give me a yell if you need any specifics, I've kept this big picture coz you sound like you know your way around a PC, but I can give you specific instructions if you want (and a generic CD-ROM driver if it will help). Well, here's a yell . . . but not exactly the one you (or I) may have been expecting: I had just about concluded that either there was an error on the old drive which was keeping it from copying properly or that perhaps Ghost was unable to run properly because there it couldn't find enough space on that 4.3GB drive, so I concluded that I might as well put that 500GB drive in there and reformat it and do a clean install of XP. (I did first run the Files Settings Transfer Wizard to save the stuff it is supposed to save so maybe I would not lose absolutely everything I had on the old version.) So I turned it off, removed the old drives, and put the 500GB drive I had tried to copy the system drive to using Ghost, and then turned on the power. This time it booted up. So again as seems to be usual with computers, sometimes it works exactly as it is supposed to, other times you do the exact same thing and it doesn't work, and there's no way to tell which result you're going to get. FWIW, I was getting constant nastygrams from the system that free space on the C: drive was getting very low. Now I have 1.38TB of disk space. Perhaps that'll be enough to get me through Labor Day without getting any more nastygrams . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: FWIW, I was getting constant nastygrams from the system that free space on the C: drive was getting very low. Now I have 1.38TB of disk space. Perhaps that'll be enough to get me through Labor Day without getting any more nastygrams . . . Hmmm - I could get a fairly decent MP3 collection going with that... Even store some of my photos as well. And to think I was so proud when I upgraded my XT to have a 10Mb hard disk instead of 2 x 360K floppies - now you have 130,000 of those disks in what is still a home computer. Cool. Cheers Russell C. --- This email (including any attachments) is confidential and copyright. The School makes no warranty about the content of this email. Unless expressly stated, this email does not bind the School and does not necessarily constitute the opinion of the School. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender. --- GWAVAsig ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
On 31 Aug 2005, at 12:39 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: So again as seems to be usual with computers, sometimes it works exactly as it is supposed to, other times you do the exact same thing and it doesn't work, and there's no way to tell which result you're going to get. That's more of a property of Microsoft products than of computers in general. Although I did once spend a couple of weeks tracking down a bug in some VMS code[1] that used shared memory and crashed horribly on clusters. Of course it didn't actually work properly on a single machine either but the memory it trampled on wasn't being used by anything else important... [1] I didn't write it, I just got to fix it. I got to fix a lot of stuff written by people paid more than me... -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, President, Chairman and Founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
At 07:09 PM Tuesday 8/30/2005, Russell Chapman wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: FWIW, I was getting constant nastygrams from the system that free space on the C: drive was getting very low. Now I have 1.38TB of disk space. Perhaps that'll be enough to get me through Labor Day without getting any more nastygrams . . . Hmmm - I could get a fairly decent MP3 collection going with that... Even store some of my photos as well. And to think I was so proud when I upgraded my XT to have a 10Mb hard disk instead of 2 x 360K floppies - now you have 130,000 of those disks in what is still a home computer. Cool. I recall how happy I was to get that 4.3GB drive partitioned into two sections to give me more much needed space on my Win95 box. Which, when I got it in Dec 95, came with a 540MB HD. (I had already added a 1.6GB drive and filled it up before getting the 4.3GB drive.) Wasn't it someone on this list who used to quote Bill Gates' statement that 640KB ought to be enough for anybody? I have single photos (from Cassini and HST, frex) which are 5×, 10×, . . . that big . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
At 10:54 PM Sunday 8/28/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent my weekend buying a 220 gig computer for $220 and then deleting/ uninstalling game after game I didn't get the needed CDs that go with them. And printers. And photos. And purchase orders with credit card numbers. Strange for someone to just let it all go through the estate sale. Probably a relative who had no idea what the departed had used the computer for. Perhaps an older relative who is still computer illiterate, as some of mine are. Frex, my sixty-something cousin, who went back to college and started substitute teaching after losing her husband a dozen or so years ago, only finally broke down and got a computer and learned to use it something like two or three years ago, and my stepmother still refuses to consider getting one, although I keep thinking about trying to fix up an old machine¹ and give it to her and get her hooked on e-mail . . . _ ¹Unfortunately, it would probably be cheaper to get her a new machine than to bring any of my old ones up to even minimal requirements to be useful today. particularly when one would have to start by purchasing a new copy of Win XP (as well as other software) for it, after fixing whatever went wrong that cause me to have to replace it . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
At 10:45 PM Sunday 8/28/2005, Russell Chapman wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Has anyone ever done this to copy the contents of the old drive to a new (larger) drive? I have been working on doing so for hours: a couple of times it has reported that it copied successfully, but the computer would not boot with the new drive as drive 0. Can anyone tell me the trick to getting it to work: I have tried a number of different combinations of settings and none has resulted in a new drive which will boot up. Ronn, I was away for the weekend, so I didn't see this 'til now. I use Ghost every day, so I might be able to help. Did you get it sorted, or is it still an issue? Yes, it's still an issue: I didn't have any more time to fool with it this weekend. The problem, as simply as I can put it: The HD which came with this machine quit working back in January. At the time I was trying to copy some stuff off the HD0 from the old machine. When I put the old HD0 into the new box as drive 1 and turned the power on, the new HD in the drive 0 slot stopped working. I can only guess that whatever had caused the old drive to fail had somehow affected the new one . . . although I did not have an unlimited supply of either hard drives or money in order to allow me to experiment to confirm that hypothesis. :P (I was just glad that the secondary HD from the old machine, which had all my teaching stuff, etc., on it, seemed to be working and in fact continues to work until this day.) The only other HD I could spare at the time was an old 4.3GB Quantum Bigfoot drive (the latter term referring to the fact that it has the same footprint as the average CD or DVD drive rather than fitting in a 3-1/2 hard drive bay), which I reformatted and installed Win XP on in order to get something up and running. So I have been running on that one as drive 0 and the old secondary as drive 1 ever since. Earlier this month I received a couple of checks I had been waiting for, so last week I ordered and received two of Hitachi's new 500GB drives. I also picked up Norton SystemWorks 2005 Premier which includes version 9.0 of Ghost at a local CompUSA. So the other day I installed the latter and then tried to use Ghost to copy the 4.3GB drive to one of the new 500GB drives and then make it the new system drive. (To be precise, I want to partition it and use probably 400GB for the new system drive -- hopefully allowing plenty of space for all the crap which Windoze by default assumes you want installed on the C:/ drive -- and put some version (TBD) of a *nix OS on the other partition. I also picked up the latest version of Partition Magic to go with the NSW. (I did have older versions of all of those, but of course they don't work correctly with XP.) The other new drive will go into the secondary slot and the old drive with all the data on it will go into an external drive box, at least until I have transferred all the data on it someplace else.) I put the new drive in as secondary (yes, the BIOS recognizes the full 500GB, so that is not the problem) and tried to use the disk copy function of Ghost to copy the old system drive to the new drive. It reported that it had successfully copied the drive, but then after I powered down the machine, removed the old 4.3GB drive and put the new drive in its place at the end of the IDE cable, and turned the power back on, it won't boot up, although with the old system drive in place I have no trouble reading the data which was copied to the new drive. I tried several times, playing around with the settings in Ghost (largely guessing, as the help file is not very helpful and the dead tree manual which came in the box even less), but never got any better results than that: a reportedly successful copy to the new drive, but the new drive will not boot up when it is installed as drive 0 and the old drive is removed. That's when I started asking for help. So, any ideas? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I tried several times, playing around with the settings in Ghost (largely guessing, as the help file is not very helpful and the dead tree manual which came in the box even less), but never got any better results than that: a reportedly successful copy to the new drive, but the new drive will not boot up when it is installed as drive 0 and the old drive is removed. That's when I started asking for help. So, any ideas? I'm assuming that you have been using the Windows version of Ghost (in which case your experience is fairly typical). If you can create a DOS boot disk with CD-ROM drivers, that is the ideal. Start the computer in DOS, and run the DOS version of Ghost from the CD, and choose disk to disk copy. If you can't get the CD to work in DOS, it is possible to copy the ghost.exe file to the boot disk and run it from there. This will normally solve the problem. There is still a full menu interface, you don't need all the command line switches, but there's no mouse. (of course, the command line switches can do the whole thing if that's your preference, and that's how we use it because we use it so routinely). Failing that, I think that Partition Magic is going to be your best bet from here on in. Ghost *should* have done the right thing - your theory sounds right, but the 500Gb drives are a new wrinkle that I havent' dealt with before. and Ghost may have trouble with them. We had some trouble going from 40Gb drives to 120Gb drives, and ended up having 30Gb partitions on both (because they are student computers with no data at all, the remaining 90Gb is just wasted, as is most of the 30Gb...). Because we didn't want or need the space, we didn't put much effort into solving the problem. Give me a yell if you need any specifics, I've kept this big picture coz you sound like you know your way around a PC, but I can give you specific instructions if you want (and a generic CD-ROM driver if it will help). Cheers Russell C. --- This email (including any attachments) is confidential and copyright. The School makes no warranty about the content of this email. Unless expressly stated, this email does not bind the School and does not necessarily constitute the opinion of the School. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender. --- GWAVAsig ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Has anyone ever done this to copy the contents of the old drive to a new (larger) drive? I have been working on doing so for hours: a couple of times it has reported that it copied successfully, but the computer would not boot with the new drive as drive 0. Can anyone tell me the trick to getting it to work: I have tried a number of different combinations of settings and none has resulted in a new drive which will boot up. Ronn, I was away for the weekend, so I didn't see this 'til now. I use Ghost every day, so I might be able to help. Did you get it sorted, or is it still an issue? Cheers Russell C. --- This email (including any attachments) is confidential and copyright. The School makes no warranty about the content of this email. Unless expressly stated, this email does not bind the School and does not necessarily constitute the opinion of the School. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender. --- GWAVAsig ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
In a message dated 8/28/2005 8:47:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Has anyone ever done this to copy the contents of the old drive to a new (larger) drive? I have been working on doing so for hours: a couple of times it has reported that it copied successfully, but the computer would not boot with the new drive as drive 0. Can anyone tell me the trick to getting it to work: I have tried a number of different combinations of settings and none has resulted in a new drive which will boot up. Ronn, I was away for the weekend, so I didn't see this 'til now. I use Ghost every day, so I might be able to help. Did you get it sorted, or is it still an issue? Cheers Russell C. I spent my weekend buying a 220 gig computer for $220 and then deleting/ uninstalling game after game I didn't get the needed CDs that go with them. And printers. And photos. And purchase orders with credit card numbers. Strange for someone to just let it all go through the estate sale. Vilyehm. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Excel suckz
Alberto, (1) is there any way to mix lines and columns in a graphic? Yes. Fortunately, it's one of Excel's built-in custom chart types. It's so not-custom that the description of the chart begins Classic combination chart... Here's how: From the Insert menu, choose Chart... Select the Custom Types tab, scroll down the Chart type: list and select one of Line - Column or Line - Column on 2nd Axis (or whatever appears after the 2, because it's cut off in the dialog on my Mac...). That's what I think you're asking for: a chart that has columns for one data series and a line for another series. This might be helpful: Create Multiple Combination Charts in Excel http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=211 (2) is there any intelligent way to plot only meaningful values? For example, if I am plotting densities (A1:A10 is volume, B1:B10 is mass, C1:C10 is density, but not all of them have decent values: B7:B10 or maybe B8:B10 are zeroes), I would like to restrict the plot to numbers that are not zero/zero. This one's equally easy, and, Doug Pensinger's no-doubt excellent advice notwithstanding, doesn't even require that you write a macro. Create a new column next to your funky column with the following formula in every cell: =IF(C2=0,NA(),C2) (where C2 is the a cell in the column that may contain zero values that you want to replace). A line chart that crosses the NA cells will just skip over them, something like this: +---+ 4 -| | | *---* * | 3 -| /. .\ /| | / . . \ / | 2 -|/. .\ / | | *---* . . * | 1 -| V | +---+---+---+---*---+---+---+---+ ' ' ' ' ' ' ' a b c d e f g Where the missing data is in row 'd', of course. (The dotted line forming the big ugly V in the middle is what you'd get with your raw data.) For the sake of clarity, and because my obsessive- compulsive disorder is relatively under control tonight, I didn't include the bars on the ASCII version of the chart above, nor the legend. I hope you can handle that :-). Alberto I hate M$ and all the crap it sells Monteiro Anyone who knows me at all knows that I am no fan of Microsoft operating systems or business practices: I worked for Apple for seven years and Sun for three. On the other hand, I have been known to say that Excel may be the best piece of general-purpose software ever created by humans. Basically, If I can't figure out how to do something in Excel, I assume that it's because I can't figure out how to do something in Excel, it's probably not because Excel can't do it. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Excel suckz
I would like to thank the help, even though I could solve the problem before I read the suggestions :-) Of course, my solution was working stupidly, and using Excel's bugs to get what I wanted :-) (1) is there any way to mix lines and columns in a graphic? Yes, if and only if we have _exactly_ the same number of columns and lines, and give the columns first. Since the stupid thing plots half of them as columns, and I wanted 1 column + 3 lines, I simply triplicated the columns! (2) is there any intelligent way to plot only meaningful values? Yes: I replaced the meaningless data by 1/zero evil grin Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
Has anyone ever done this to copy the contents of the old drive to a new (larger) drive? I have been working on doing so for hours: a couple of times it has reported that it copied successfully, but the computer would not boot with the new drive as drive 0. Can anyone tell me the trick to getting it to work: I have tried a number of different combinations of settings and none has resulted in a new drive which will boot up. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:06:06 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever done this to copy the contents of the old drive to a new (larger) drive? I have been working on doing so for hours: a couple of times it has reported that it copied successfully, but the computer would not boot with the new drive as drive 0. Can anyone tell me the trick to getting it to work: I have tried a number of different combinations of settings and none has resulted in a new drive which will boot up. A few of the people I work with use Ghost all of the time, if you still need help I'll ask them what the story is. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Copying Drives with Norton Ghost
On 8/26/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever done this to copy the contents of the old drive to a new (larger) drive? I have been working on doing so for hours: a couple of times it has reported that it copied successfully, but the computer would not boot with the new drive as drive 0. Can anyone tell me the trick to getting it to work: I have tried a number of different combinations of settings and none has resulted in a new drive which will boot up. Isn't Ghost a disk imaging program? IIRC, it's intended to do drive backups by creating a sector-by-sector copy of the disk (as opposed to a file-by-file copy), which can then later be restored to those same sectors if data was corrupted. In that way, things like special boot sectors are preserved and restored. If the target disk isn't identical (ie: it doesn't have the same sector format (and cylinder/head count)) , all that boot stuff may not end up in the right places for the new bigger disk to be bootable. Aside from bootability, are the disk files readable at least? You might be better off using a standard disk backup program (of the file copy sort) - I think some of those are able to make the target disk bootable even if it doesn't match. I don't use Ghost, so I'm not an expert. Perhaps there's some options available to make it work the way you desire. Hopefully Doug's friends can help you there. -bryon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Irregulars Question: Excel suckz
(1) is there any way to mix lines and columns in a graphic? (2) is there any intelligent way to plot only meaningful values? For example, if I am plotting densities (A1:A10 is volume, B1:B10 is mass, C1:C10 is density, but not all of them have decent values: B7:B10 or maybe B8:B10 are zeroes), I would like to restrict the plot to numbers that are not zero/zero. Alberto I hate M$ and all the crap it sells Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Irregulars Question: Excel suckz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro (1) is there any way to mix lines and columns in a graphic? (2) is there any intelligent way to plot only meaningful values? For example, if I am plotting densities (A1:A10 is volume, B1:B10 is mass, C1:C10 is density, but not all of them have decent values: B7:B10 or maybe B8:B10 are zeroes), I would like to restrict the plot to numbers that are not zero/zero. Alberto I hate M$ and all the crap it sells Monteiro Excel graphs suck.. 1) no 2) no I find you have to sort and arrange the data to suit the graph. And not want much. Andrew ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Excel suckz
At 08:53 AM Thursday 8/25/2005, Alberto Monteiro wrote: (1) is there any way to mix lines and columns in a graphic? (2) is there any intelligent way to plot only meaningful values? For example, if I am plotting densities (A1:A10 is volume, B1:B10 is mass, C1:C10 is density, but not all of them have decent values: B7:B10 or maybe B8:B10 are zeroes), I would like to restrict the plot to numbers that are not zero/zero. Nope, sorry. I dunno how to do that with Excel, although I vaguely seem to remember reading about something like (2), but I could be wrong. However, your question reminded me of something I was doing in FORTRAN once, where for each star I was studying I needed to enter the mass (in solar masses), absolute magnitude, and color index (plus other information as applicable to each individual star) as values on a punched card. As you probably know, accurate masses are not available for most stars (except for members of well-studied binaries which can be studied both visually and visually), so that entry was often left blank, which as you probably also know, FORTRAN interprets as a zero¹, which of course is not a valid value for the mass of a star. However, zero is indeed a valid value for both absolute magnitude and color index (although having both simultaneously would man that the star was some distance off the main sequence). Anyway, some interesting results happened if one entered a blank data card, in which case the program interpreted that all three values were 0.0 . . . _ ¹This particular FORTRAN compiler did not have ENCODE and DECODE statements, which would have provided a way of reading the card twice (once as ASCII literal, once as a floating point value) in order to distinguish between an entered value of 0.0 and a blank field -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars Question: Excel suckz
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:53:46 -0200, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (1) is there any way to mix lines and columns in a graphic? Don't understand the question. (2) is there any intelligent way to plot only meaningful values? For example, if I am plotting densities (A1:A10 is volume, B1:B10 is mass, C1:C10 is density, but not all of them have decent values: B7:B10 or maybe B8:B10 are zeroes), I would like to restrict the plot to numbers that are not zero/zero. Write a macro that turns zeros into blank spaces in a column of data and then go to tools/options/chart and plot empty cells as interpolated. This macro creates a new column of data without the zeros: Sub IgnoreZeros() Application.ScreenUpdating = False Do While ActiveCell If ActiveCell 0 Then CellValue = ActiveCell ActiveCell.Offset(0, 1).Activate ActiveCell = CellValue ActiveCell.Offset(0, -1).Activate End If ActiveCell.Offset(1, 0).Activate Loop End Sub Alberto I hate M$ and all the crap it sells Monteiro Me too, but Excel is one of the things I hate the least. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
