Global variable?

[Pablo Nevares]

I'm trying to implement a variable on my website that shows an estimate on
how many people are currently viewing a page. At first I thought of just
having a list of IP addresses that have recently accessed the page, with a
timeout if the IP hasn't done anything in a while.

CFFILE can't be used, and I thought using a database just for this might be
a little over the top. Can an application variable be somehow kept permanent
across many connections? Thanks in advance.

Pablo Nevares
Information Technology
Hendricks & Partners
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RE: OT: Frames vs NoFrames

[Shane Witbeck]

hah!...great reference to Nielson. I consider myself more of a designer than
a programmer and cringe at the thought of designing graphics around frames,
not to mention being a newbie coding in the Fusebox methodology.

Sincerely,

Shane





-Original Message-
From: paul smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Frames vs NoFrames


I often find a site with frames very annoying,
and don't use them.
If you want reasons, see p 85-92 of "Designing
Web Usablity" by Jakob Nielsen ISBN 1-56205-810-X

best,  paul

At 08:08 PM 5/30/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes dislikes? and have
>you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application
>browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
>other browsers in the business arena.


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RE: Checking file dimensions.

[lsellers]

>
> cfx_imginfo by lsellers intrafoundation.com

Actually it's CFX_ImageInfo, not CFX_ImgInfo (by Scott Howard). I've got
that so much that I've included a sort of disclaimer in the last version.
;-)


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RE: Checking file dimensions.

[lsellers]

>
> CFX_ImageInfo.  Works great.  get it in the allaire development area.

That reminds me. I made a 2.0 version of imageinfo.. um, sunday but haven't
uploaded yet.

(Yes, I write c code for fun. Strange aren't I? ;-) )

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personal oracle 8i

[Irwan Sampurna]

All,
  Does anybody ever use CF server connect to Personal Oracle 8i? I tried but
it can't work.

TIA

Irwan


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RE: Frames vs NoFrames

[Don Cuniff]

Your description is the nature of the argument historically  -- ie.
irrational.  My bias is that the source of the argument may well be a
random/abstract versus a concrete/linear thinking prediliction.  Anyone who
needs breadcrumbs to find their way out of the woods loves well-applied
frames.  "well-applied" -- that's the rub.  Many early examples were
exercises in frames rather than well-designed navigation and presentation.
I can tell you that frames were created on the 1st day t contain everything
else.

don

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kaigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 9:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Frames vs NoFrames


Hello,

First, let me say I am pro frames.  I believe that 97.9% of all people who
use my business application will use either netscape or ie.  I have never
found a limitation that has prevented me from using frames.

Second, I am codeveloping a new site and the other developer does not like
frames but has not given me a valid reason for this dislike.

Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes dislikes? and have
you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application
browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
other browsers in the business arena.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Kaigler


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Re: Tracking Clients without Cookies...

[paul smith]

See p 648 CFWACK4 (Ch 27 - Session Variables and Cookies)

best,  paul

At 06:23 PM 5/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone have a good idea of how to track a client that refuses cookies.
>I know that you need to ensure that the CFID and CFTOKEN are passed on every
>page. Anyone have any good code examples to do this???

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Re: OT: Frames vs NoFrames

[paul smith]

I often find a site with frames very annoying,
and don't use them.
If you want reasons, see p 85-92 of "Designing
Web Usablity" by Jakob Nielsen ISBN 1-56205-810-X

best,  paul

At 08:08 PM 5/30/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes dislikes? and have
>you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application
>browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
>other browsers in the business arena.

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RE: Frames vs NoFrames

[Pablo Nevares]

I think the major arguments against frames are the problems associated with
bookmarking pages, and the risk of losing a user's interest when someone
links to a page inside a frame from outside your site (leaving them without
a menu, title, etc. Another thing to consider would be the multiple page
requests that need to be sent each time someone accesses a frameset, and
problems with browsers caching the interior pages (essentially hiding any
new content from the user).

I'm anti-frames because of these issues, and some other trivial ones. I see
valid cases where frames are a necessity. One good use is at Sun's JavaSoft
site, where they use frames in the SDK, allowing you to browse information
quickly. Another one is Eric S. Raymond's Jargon.org site, where it's a
dictionary-style listing. Basically, I find frames useful in cases where the
information is meant to be browsed quickly, and each new page has a small
amount of difference from the previous (only a new definition, as opposed to
a whole other subject). The alternative I like is tables, especially with
the use of CFINCLUDE to create headers and footers that are constant
throughout similar pages.

Does it sound like I had to give a presentation on this lately? =)

Pablo Nevares
Information Technology
Hendricks & Partners
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> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Kaigler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: Frames vs NoFrames
>
>
> Hello,
>
> First, let me say I am pro frames.  I believe that 97.9% of all
> people who
> use my business application will use either netscape or ie.  I have never
> found a limitation that has prevented me from using frames.
>
> Second, I am codeveloping a new site and the other developer does
> not like
> frames but has not given me a valid reason for this dislike.
>
> Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes
> dislikes? and have
> you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application
> browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
> other browsers in the business arena.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill Kaigler
>
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Re: OT: Frames vs NoFrames

[Nick Slay]

Oh yeah...

One other one... .Netscape calculates the borders in a funny way!!   For 
example, if you have two columns say 160 pixels, and the other frame 100%, 
and the margins and borders are all set to 0 and NO etc, Netscape still 
does some funny things with that first column... it seems to still only 
make it about 152ish pixels wide.. It looks fine in IE, but forget it in 
Netscape!   most annoying!!



At 20:08 30/05/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>First, let me say I am pro frames.  I believe that 97.9% of all people who
>use my business application will use either netscape or ie.  I have never
>found a limitation that has prevented me from using frames.
>
>Second, I am codeveloping a new site and the other developer does not like
>frames but has not given me a valid reason for this dislike.
>
>Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes dislikes? and have
>you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application
>browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
>other browsers in the business arena.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Bill Kaigler
>
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Re: OT: Frames vs NoFrames

[Nick Slay]

This thread could open a nice long debate!!!  :^)


Personally, I like frames  they make site navigation a breeze... 
however I have run into a couple of things that make me bang my head 
against a wall!!

- Probably THE single most annoying omission from CF... you can't specify a 
target frame in CFLOCATION, I've had to use JavaScript calls as an 
alternate.. Yeauch!!

- People can't bookmark a specific page within a frame set...  well they 
can, but if they go back to it, they don't see all the other frames.

There's probably a couple of others.. but I can't think of them now. :^)




At 20:08 30/05/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>First, let me say I am pro frames.  I believe that 97.9% of all people who
>use my business application will use either netscape or ie.  I have never
>found a limitation that has prevented me from using frames.
>
>Second, I am codeveloping a new site and the other developer does not like
>frames but has not given me a valid reason for this dislike.
>
>Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes dislikes? and have
>you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application
>browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
>other browsers in the business arena.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Bill Kaigler
>
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Re: Frames vs NoFrames

[Steve Reich]

> Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes dislikes? and
have
> you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application
> browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of
> other browsers in the business arena.


Let me state that despite some of the issues against frames, I prefer to use
them for most of my applications primarily for cosmetic reasons (where I
think most of the gain is). Here are some of my opinions...

Con Frames...

Bookmarking a page is difficult.
Complex applications will almost always require extensive JavaScript to
communicate between frames.
Usually only one entry point (again bookmarking).
Search engines seem to prefer a single page vs. a frameset.

Pro Frames...

Ease of navigation.
Some layout advantages (cosmetic difference).
More window control (ex. Outlook type "Preview Pane" for an email app).


I know there's more but I'll leave room for others to point those out..;-)

Steve


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RE: How to write WAP application by CF??

[Ian Lurie]

Hi all,

I've just placed my WAP sample files at
http://www.portentinteractive.com/wap

I'm going to be setting up a small site that includes a bit more info, at
some point, but for now, this'll keep me from accidentally sending my ZIP
archive to the list (again)...

Ian

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How to write WAP application by CF??


I wrote a column for CFDJ on this. There is a link to the column  on my CF
site (go to www.forta.com/cf/resources). Actually, there's also a copy of a
CFUG presentation that explains some of the basics of doing this.

--- Ben



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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:53 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: How to write WAP application by CF??


Hi Albert,

I have some sample code from a presentation to the Seattle CFUG, if you'd
like.

Ian

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to write WAP application by CF??


Hi there,

I would like to write a WAP application by ColdFusion.  Can someone
give me
some information??  Thanx in advance.

Albert


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Re: Cold Fusion-based email server...?

[Howie Hamlin]

http://www.coolfusion.com/ims.htm

- Original Message -
From: Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:36 PM
Subject: Cold Fusion-based email server...?


> Hi all,
>
> I've seen this thread before, but can't find the info - what's everyone's
CF
> email system of choice?
>
> Ian


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Re: shipping costs

[David Hannum]

Have you guys tried the CF_Intershipper tag from DesertRaven.com?  I've
tested it and am deploying it on a project I'm using.  It will give you
FedEx, UPS, USPS, and others.  It seems pretty stable.  You need to set up a
FREE account with Intershipper.com to use it.

Dave


- Original Message -
From: Shane Witbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: shipping costs


> I experienced the same timeout. Possible it was an internet connectivity
> issue rather than too much traffic at UPS? I did a tracert on the problem
> and tracked it to Concentric.net today. Just a thought.
>
> Shane
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 5:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: shipping costs
>
>
> Nice, so they create an API and document it but they don't want folks
using
> it? I thought too much traffic was a good thing! Hum.
>
> FYI, I am trying to wrap a revamp of that tag, new CF_UPS tag does pricing
> and a lot more (tracking, comparisons of shipping options, etc).
>
> --- Ben
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Cold Fusion Newsgroup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: shipping costs
>
>
> We have experienced the CF_UPSPrice tag timing out when contacting the UPS
> site recently, especially in the early afternoon East Coast time.  This
> produces a shipping price of $0.00.  When discussing this with UPS, they
> strongly suggest NOT using this tag.  It is sending too much traffic to
> their servers.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this problem?
>
> Laura
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Shawn Regan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:23 PM
> Subject: shipping costs
>
>
> > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not
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> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hey CF people,
> >
> > I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs.
Are
> > most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the
> prices
> > from the shipping service and getting a price back based on location?
> >
> > Shawn Regan
> >
> > --_=_NextPart_001_01BFCA64.2CF037D0
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> >  > 5.5.2650.12">
> > shipping costs
> > 
> > 
> >
> > Hey CF people,
> > 
> >
> > I want to find out what people are doing to calculate
=
> > shipping costs. Are most people setting a global shipping price, or are
=
> > they pulling the prices from the shipping service and getting a price =
> > back based on location?
> >
> > Shawn Regan
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> > 
> > 
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RE: Automatic password Generation

[Peter Tilbrook]

Try this code:












#password#

You can loop it through a database too. For example:


SELECT Directory.FirstName AS FirstName, Directory.LastName AS LastName,
Directory.EmailAddress AS EmailAddress, Directory.ID AS ID
FROM Directory
















#FullName# - #Password# - '#EmailAddress#'

insert into Users (Fullname,Login,EmailAddress,Password)
values ('#Fullname#','#Login#','#EmailAddress#','#Password#')



Cheers!

==
Peter Tilbrook
Internet Applications Developer
Safetyweb Internet Solutions
31-37 Townshend Street
Phillip, ACT, 2606

http://www.safetyweb.com.au
http://www.actcfug.asn.au

Phone: (02) 6273 9901
Facsimile: (02) 6273 9902

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RE: shipping costs

[Steve Pierce]

Who told you that at UPS. That is not the company policy and I think the
managers would like to know who said that in the meantime. Call UPS back and
have your call escalated. If the suggest against using it, what do they
recommend. Again always make sure you document who and when you talked to
someone.

If they can handle traffic two days before Christmas, they have plenty of
bandwidth to handle a tag in the early afternoon. Something else is amiss.

 - Steve



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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: shipping costs


We have experienced the CF_UPSPrice tag timing out when contacting the UPS
site recently, especially in the early afternoon East Coast time.  This
produces a shipping price of $0.00.  When discussing this with UPS, they
strongly suggest NOT using this tag.  It is sending too much traffic to
their servers.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Laura


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From: Shawn Regan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: shipping costs


> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
>
> --_=_NextPart_001_01BFCA64.2CF037D0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hey CF people,
>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs. Are
> most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the
prices
> from the shipping service and getting a price back based on location?
>
> Shawn Regan
>
> --_=_NextPart_001_01BFCA64.2CF037D0
> Content-Type: text/html;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> 
> 
> 
>  charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>  5.5.2650.12">
> shipping costs
> 
> 
>
> Hey CF people,
> 
>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate =
> shipping costs. Are most people setting a global shipping price, or are =
> they pulling the prices from the shipping service and getting a price =
> back based on location?
>
> Shawn Regan
> 
>
> 
> 
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RE: Cold Fusion-based email server...?

[Steve Pierce]

iMS

-Original Message-
From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:36 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Cold Fusion-based email server...?


Hi all,

I've seen this thread before, but can't find the info - what's everyone's CF
email system of choice?

Ian

Portent Interactive
http://www.portentinteractive.com
Process, Design, Content

Market Matrix
http://www.marketmatrix.com
Secure Commerce for Your Business

Working together to create powerful, usable web solutions.

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RE: PING to check URL

[Chris Chambers]

You can't 'ping' a URL.  You can ping an IP address or properly qualified
domain name and this simply tells you if the machine/Internet appliance has
a network interface up and listening at that address.

Verifying that a URL is live (e.g. not returning a 404) is a bit more
tricky.

You could use CFHTTP and parse CFHTTP.FileContent for 404 (or other status
codes) to verify that the link is live, however, I would caution you in
doing so if the site you are building will receive heavy traffic (500K hits
a day or more depending on the average latency between your server and the
URLs to be checked).

Also, you might want to look into CFX_HTTP (someone please correct me if I
am wrong), as it is more robust than the built-in Allaire tag.

HTH!

__

Chris Chambers

AIM: CTC HOME
ICQ: 40311211

VOX: 757-896-6393
FAX: 757-896-0774

Our tests indicate that our software is functioning exactly as coded
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-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: PING to check URL


I can't find any documentation on using the PING command to check for a
valid URL. The alternative is to force my users to do it, when all I
want is to check its validity before allowing them to enter it on my
site.

Any thoughts?

TIA,
--
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Mississippi Counties
http://www.mscounties.com/

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Re: Cold Fusion-based email server...?

[Justin MacCarthy]

Your options :

Roll your own server:  iMS from Coolfusion.com  *excellent support & product*
iMail from ipswitch, good sever , customizable front end with some util's
for adding users domains etc.
(anyone figured out how to share a session with CF IE , if you authenticate
a user with CF can you get at their mailbox with out another logon?)

or use cfx_imap from the tag gallery...

~Justin MacCarthy



At 11:36 PM Tuesday, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I've seen this thread before, but can't find the info - what's everyone's CF
>email system of choice?
>
>Ian
>
>Portent Interactive
>http://www.portentinteractive.com
>Process, Design, Content
>
>Market Matrix
>http://www.marketmatrix.com 
>Secure Commerce for Your Business
>
>Working together to create powerful, usable web solutions.
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RE: [RE: How to write WAP application by CF??]

[Ron Anderson]

Ian, can you make it available at the CFSeattle site?
Thanks

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-Original Message-
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Could you please forward a copy to me too.
Thanks,
Bob

Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Albert,
>
> I have some sample code from a presentation to the Seattle CFUG, if you'd
> like.
>
> Ian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Albert Chow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: How to write WAP application by CF??
>
>
> Hi there,
>
>   I would like to write a WAP application by ColdFusion.  Can someone
> give me
> some information??  Thanx in advance.
>
> Albert
>
>

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Sean O'Brien

The Bike Company
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RE: PING to check URL

[lsellers]

>
> I can't find any documentation on using the PING command to check for a
> valid URL. The alternative is to force my users to do it, when all I
> want is to check its validity before allowing them to enter it on my
> site.

PING is only for ip addresses (ie, 127.0.0.1), not URLs. Use CFHTTP or
something similiar to detect if an URL exists.
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RE: PING to check URL

[Dave Watts]

> Maybe I'm narrowing the choices by my question. I'm not hung
> up on PING. I would merely like to be able to check for a URL
> behind the scenes in my script, without forcing my visitor to
> do it for me (enter it, test it, and either click the back button
> or close the new window, depending on how I set it up). If the
> address, entered in a browser, would return a 404 I'd like to
> be able to send back a prompt, so the user can take appropriate
> action.

This requires making an HTTP request for the URL and seeing the results you
get back, or the status code if you're using CF 4.5.x. From CF, you can use
CFHTTP to do this.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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OT: Frames vs NoFrames

[Bill Kaigler]

Hello,

First, let me say I am pro frames.  I believe that 97.9% of all people who 
use my business application will use either netscape or ie.  I have never 
found a limitation that has prevented me from using frames.

Second, I am codeveloping a new site and the other developer does not like 
frames but has not given me a valid reason for this dislike.

Third and final,  what is your opinion of frames?  likes dislikes? and have 
you found any limitations to using frames.  You can use the application 
browser as an excuse if you can prove that there is more than 5% use of 
other browsers in the business arena.

Thanks in advance.

Bill Kaigler

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RE: PING to check URL

[Shane Witbeck]

"ping /?" will give you help associated with the command. ping will only
return on the host/ip address and to my knowledge is not meant to check
validity of a url.

Shane




-Original Message-
From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: PING to check URL


I can't find any documentation on using the PING command to check for a
valid URL. The alternative is to force my users to do it, when all I
want is to check its validity before allowing them to enter it on my
site.

Any thoughts?

TIA,
--
John Allred / Jackson, Mississippi
Mississippi Counties
http://www.mscounties.com/

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Re: PING to check URL

[John Allred]

Thanks, Dave.

Maybe I'm narrowing the choices by my question. I'm not hung up on PING.
I would merely like to be able to check for a URL behind the scenes in
my script, without forcing my visitor to do it for me (enter it, test
it, and either click the back button or close the new window, depending
on how I set it up). If the address, entered in a browser, would return
a 404 I'd like to be able to send back a prompt, so the user can take
appropriate action.

Thanks,
John

Dave Watts wrote:
> 
> Ping doesn't have anything to do with URLs. You use Ping to see if you can
> connect to a specific IP address or DNS name. Ping uses ICMP as its
> protocol, and doesn't tell you whether there's a web server running, or
> anything else except that there is something at that address.
> 
> If you want to check a URL, you can use CFHTTP to test it, and in CF 4.5.x,
> you can access the CFHTTP.StatusCode variable which will tell you whether
> you could retrieve the requested resource. One caveat - if you do this with
> a URL which points to a CF script, such as
> "http://www.myserver.com/myfile.cfm", the CFHTTP.StatusCode will be 200,
> which means that the server could respond successfully, even if there is no
> file "myfile.cfm". CF returns a "fake" 404 HTML page, instead of returning a
> 404 status code.
>
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RE: XML Question

[Shawn Regan]

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do a search at microsfot.com for beginning XSL. they have a pretty simple
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do a search at microsfot.com for beginning XSL. they have a pretty 
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RE: How to write WAP application by CF??

[Ben Forta]

I wrote a column for CFDJ on this. There is a link to the column  on my CF
site (go to www.forta.com/cf/resources). Actually, there's also a copy of a
CFUG presentation that explains some of the basics of doing this.

--- Ben



-Original Message-
From: Ian Lurie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:53 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: How to write WAP application by CF??


Hi Albert,

I have some sample code from a presentation to the Seattle CFUG, if you'd
like.

Ian

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Subject: How to write WAP application by CF??


Hi there,

I would like to write a WAP application by ColdFusion.  Can someone
give me
some information??  Thanx in advance.

Albert


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RE: shipping costs

[Shane Witbeck]

I experienced the same timeout. Possible it was an internet connectivity
issue rather than too much traffic at UPS? I did a tracert on the problem
and tracked it to Concentric.net today. Just a thought.

Shane

-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 5:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: shipping costs


Nice, so they create an API and document it but they don't want folks using
it? I thought too much traffic was a good thing! Hum.

FYI, I am trying to wrap a revamp of that tag, new CF_UPS tag does pricing
and a lot more (tracking, comparisons of shipping options, etc).

--- Ben


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: shipping costs


We have experienced the CF_UPSPrice tag timing out when contacting the UPS
site recently, especially in the early afternoon East Coast time.  This
produces a shipping price of $0.00.  When discussing this with UPS, they
strongly suggest NOT using this tag.  It is sending too much traffic to
their servers.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Laura


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: shipping costs


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> Hey CF people,
>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs. Are
> most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the
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> Shawn Regan
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> 
> 
>
> Hey CF people,
> 
>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate =
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Re: Checking file dimensions.

[Eric Dawson]

cfx_imginfo by lsellers intrafoundation.com

From: "Todd Ashworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Checking file dimensions.
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 17:06:38 -0400

This is going to sound a little weird, but I am wondering if there is a way
to figure out the dimensions of an image file, before it is displayed on the
web site, and take some action if it is over a certain width.

Todd


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where are there copies of the CFTalk archive?

[Eric Dawson]

where are there copies of the CFTalk archive?

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RE: Checking file dimensions.

[Rob Sherman]

There isn't much you can do before a user uploads an image.  But, you can
use a product like JASC's Image Robot (www.jasc.com) to make the image
conform to a certain height, width as well as a number of other features.
I've used it and cfx_spawnexec custom tag to get cold fusion to talk to it.


Sincerely,

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RE: PING to check URL

[Rob Sherman]

In the gallery there is a custom tag called cfx_http which will return
header information.  From that you can test if it returns a valid header or
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Re: Checking file dimensions.

[!jeff!]

CFX_ImageInfo.  Works great.  get it in the allaire development area.




At 05:06 PM 5/30/2000 -0400, Todd Ashworth wrote:
>This is going to sound a little weird, but I am wondering if there is a way
>to figure out the dimensions of an image file, before it is displayed on the
>web site, and take some action if it is over a certain width.
>
>Todd
>
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Re: General Credit Card processing question

[Nick McClure]

We use Card Service International's Stuff.

They have a CFX Tag that works great. But you have to have a perchant 
account through them.

goto http://www.csi-ez.com/ for more info, I think they also have some 
Check stuff as well.

At 04:28 PM 5/30/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>We are also looking for alternatives to Cybercash.  Is anyone using any
>other service?
>
>Laura
>
>- Original Message -
>From: paul smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:51 PM
>Subject: Re: General Credit Card processing question
>
>
> > Are there issues in transferring a CyberCash CF website
> > from one web server to another (from off site to my site)?
> >
> > best,  paul
> >
> > At 12:13 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
> > >OK, so you all see the subject and say "Oh God, search the archives! It's
> > >been discussed here a million times!" Well, I have been a member of this
> > >list for a long time and have been developing advanced CF apps for over 2
> > >years now. So I don't write this from the angle of a new developer or
>just
> > >being too lazy to do the research myself.
> > >
> > >After reading every thread possible and implementing several different
> > >credit card processing solutions myself, I really would like to have a
> > >healthy discussion about who's the best and the easiest to use. My
>company
> > >is a CyberCash partner. I've implemented their systems more than I care
>to
> > >remember. But, to be honest, I *hate* CyberCash. While it is easy to
> > >implement from a developer's standpoint, I think that the company and
>their
> > >systems are garbage. This comes after numerous support conversations
>where I
> > >seem to know more than they do! Now, I should quickly follow that up by
> > >saying that I am by no means a CyberCash authority, but it seems that
>when I
> > >actually get a live person over there, I'm telling *them* how their
>system
> > >should work!
> > >
> > >So what's my question? Well, what do you all use out there? What works
>and,
> > >more importantly, is *reliable*? I am frustrated to no end with CyberCash
> > >telling me "Our systems are down...We don't know when they'll be up
>again."
> > >Any thoughts you all may have would be great. i.e., what's the deal with
> > >Payment.net, Signio, etc.?
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >Dave.
> > >
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Re: Automatic password Generation

[paul smith]

There's a tag at the Allaire site.

best,  paul

At 04:01 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Does anyone know how to automatically generate passwords for users? I =
>saw it on Allaires download section and was curious as to how to do =
>that.

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Cold Fusion-based email server...?

[Ian Lurie]

Hi all,

I've seen this thread before, but can't find the info - what's everyone's CF
email system of choice?

Ian

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RE: SQL7 Keeps Switching to Single User?

[Dave Watts]

> Running CF 4.51E on win2K connected to SQL7(sp2) on another
> win2k box. Also running Forums 2.05.
>
> Occasionally the SQL7 will switch the CFVARS database or one
> of the Forums databases to single user only for no apparent
> reason. I have scoured through the logs and searched all of
> the Forum archives for and ideas and am at a loss as to how
> to stop it from switching to single user.
>
> There seems to be no pattern to the event occurring and a
> quick trip to the sql7 admin will allow it to be reset to
> multi user.

It might be the case that you're running some sort of database maintenance
task which is switching it to single-user mode to perform the task, but
failing before it has finished. Check your scheduled task list within the
SQL 7 Enterprise Manager.

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RE: PING to check URL

[Dave Watts]

> I can't find any documentation on using the PING command to
> check for a valid URL. The alternative is to force my users
> to do it, when all I want is to check its validity before
> allowing them to enter it on my site.

Ping doesn't have anything to do with URLs. You use Ping to see if you can
connect to a specific IP address or DNS name. Ping uses ICMP as its
protocol, and doesn't tell you whether there's a web server running, or
anything else except that there is something at that address.

If you want to check a URL, you can use CFHTTP to test it, and in CF 4.5.x,
you can access the CFHTTP.StatusCode variable which will tell you whether
you could retrieve the requested resource. One caveat - if you do this with
a URL which points to a CF script, such as
"http://www.myserver.com/myfile.cfm", the CFHTTP.StatusCode will be 200,
which means that the server could respond successfully, even if there is no
file "myfile.cfm". CF returns a "fake" 404 HTML page, instead of returning a
404 status code.

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Re: PING to check URL

[Brook Davies]

There is a custom tag which allows you to issue any command line calls. I 
belive it is called "command console" or something to that effect.

Good Luck.

bd

At 03:33 PM 30/05/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I can't find any documentation on using the PING command to check for a
>valid URL. The alternative is to force my users to do it, when all I
>want is to check its validity before allowing them to enter it on my
>site.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>TIA,
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CF-Browser Based DOC managament system

[Steve Aylor]

Any CF/Browser based document management systems running around out there?

Could have sworn a vendor / developer posted something that discussed their
wares not too long ago.

feel free to send me private email reagrding this topic, if appropriate.

TIA,

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Re: PING to check URL

[Allen G]

But wouldn't PING only recognize whether or not the URL was valid (as you
said)?  But that wouldn't mean that there actually is a web site that is up
and running for that URL.

Maybe a better thing would be to just let users enter their URL.  Have the
URL flagged in the database and have a spider check any flagged URLs to see
if a web site exists there.

Just my two-bits worth.

-Allen

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Subject: PING to check URL


> I can't find any documentation on using the PING command to check for a
> valid URL. The alternative is to force my users to do it, when all I
> want is to check its validity before allowing them to enter it on my
> site.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> TIA,
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RE: [RE: How to write WAP application by CF??]

[Ian Lurie]

This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.

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Here you go...



-Original Message-
From: Bob Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 12:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Ian Lurie
Subject: Re: [RE: How to write WAP application by CF??]


Could you please forward a copy to me too.
Thanks,
Bob

Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Albert,
> 
> I have some sample code from a presentation to the Seattle CFUG, if you'd
> like.
> 
> Ian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Albert Chow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: How to write WAP application by CF??
> 
> 
> Hi there,
> 
>   I would like to write a WAP application by ColdFusion.  Can someone
> give me
> some information??  Thanx in advance.
> 
> Albert
> 
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RE: [RE: How to write WAP application by CF??]

[Matthew Jones]

I also would like a copy
Thanks,
Matt

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [RE: How to write WAP application by CF??]


Could you please forward a copy to me too.
Thanks,
Bob

Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Albert,
>
> I have some sample code from a presentation to the Seattle CFUG, if you'd
> like.
>
> Ian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Albert Chow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: How to write WAP application by CF??
>
>
> Hi there,
>
>   I would like to write a WAP application by ColdFusion.  Can someone
> give me
> some information??  Thanx in advance.
>
> Albert
>
>

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Re: XML Question

[Brian Kohnen]

How would you handle the XML tag attributes using XSL?

ie: 12.2

I FINALLY got allaire's example to work (thanks David), but I don't even 
know where to start when it comes to the attributes. Any suggestions?

(If it helps, I'm trying to convert cXML to WDDX)

Thanks in advance,
Brian Kohnen

At 01:21 AM 5/24/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Thanks David, I will give it a go.  You the man.
>- Original Message -
>From: "David Gassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 9:30 PM
>Subject: RE: XML Question
>
>
> > Sean, I got Allaire's example working.  I found these problems based on
>the
> > version I copied from the Allaire website:
> >
> > 1.  If you copy the example XSL file from the website, the
>
> > tag's xmlns:xsl attribute value is broken into 2 lines, causing the xsl
> > processor to fail completely.  Instead of doing the transformation, it was
> > just outputting the content of the original xsl file.  The namespace needs
> > to be in a continuous line, as follows:
> >
> >  > xmlns:xsl="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform">
> >
> > 2.  The printWriter class wasn't being closed, so the file containing the
> > wddx was never being flushed to disk.  I added the following to the end of
> > the code:
> >
> > 
> >
> > 3.  The resulting processed file wasn't being read into a CF variable, so
>I
> > added:
> >
> >  >file="[path]wddx_test.wddx"
> >variable="wddx">
> >
> > 4.  Next, when I tried to run  to transform the wddx to a
>structure,
> > I got:
> >
> > Error Diagnostic Information
> > unknown exception condition
> > TagCFWddx::execute
> >
> > There was an error in the XSL file: the "item" element was being mapped to
>a
> > named structure; since it was a structure within an array, it couldn't
>take
> > a name, causing the WDDX parser to fail.  I corrected the XSL file, and
> > everything now works.  Here's my corrected XSL file:
> >
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> > description|currency">
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> > --David
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Sean Renet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 5:53 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: XML Question
> > >
> > >
> > > yes, you would think someone would have tested the knowledge base
>article.
> > > I though it necessary to point this out as you directed someone that
>asked
> > > how to parse an XML file into CFML to your article which
> > > references this doc
> > > as the means to do such.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "David Gassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:27 AM
> > > Subject: RE: XML Question
> > >
> > >
> > > > Interesting; I never actually tested Allaire's approach, but
> > > included the
> > > > reference in my article for the sake of completeness.  My
> > > article focuses
> > > on
> > > > parsing xml file's document object model, rather than
> > > translation with xls
> > > > (which the knowledgebase article deals with).
> > > >
> > > > Side note: I've been playing with IBM's java-based xerces processor
>from
> > > >  and have been having some good results.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Sean Renet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:09 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: XML Question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David,
> > > > > The "Tech Note" you are refering to "
> > > > > www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=14244&Method=Full#1020244 "
> > > > >  does not
> > > > > work.  I have an open incident with Allaire, wherein they are
> > > trying to
> > > > > figure out why.  Evidently after they fix the problem they
> > > are going to
> > > > > update the knowledge base article.
> > > > > - Original Message -
> > > > > From: "David Gassner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:29 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: XML Question
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Bob, I wrote an article on using the MS XMLDOM COM object with
> > > > > CF to parse
> > > > > > conventional XML files; it's at:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > htt

RE: Automatic password Generation

[jstiefel]

Why not download the tag and use it?

-Original Message-
From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Automatic password Generation


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Does anyone know how to automatically generate passwords for users? I =
saw it on Allaires download section and was curious as to how to do =
that.

Thanks,

Ben Densmore
Webmaster
eSupport.com, Inc
TouchStone Software Corp.


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Re: [RE: How to write WAP application by CF??]

[aslam bajaria]

And a copy to mee also would be great.
Appreciate.
A.B.
--- Bob Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could you please forward a copy to me too.
> Thanks,
> Bob
> 
> Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Albert,
> > 
> > I have some sample code from a presentation to the
> Seattle CFUG, if you'd
> > like.
> > 
> > Ian
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Albert Chow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: How to write WAP application by CF??
> > 
> > 
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > I would like to write a WAP application by
> ColdFusion.  Can someone
> > give me
> > some information??  Thanx in advance.
> > 
> > Albert
> > 
> >
>

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(N/M) Checking file dimensions.

[Todd Ashworth]

Nevermind .. I found a CFX tag  IMGSIZE that does the trick.

Todd

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| This is going to sound a little weird, but I am wondering if there is a
way
| to figure out the dimensions of an image file, before it is displayed on
the
| web site, and take some action if it is over a certain width.
|
| Todd
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Re: General Credit Card processing question

[paul smith]

I wasn't too clear in my original posting.
My customer has a CyberCash account, domain name,
and working website.
He's having me move his website here.  The last
time I looked at CyberCash was a few years ago.

What changes will be needed to run his CyberCash
account on my web server?  At a minimum, he'll
need a new cert since I use WebSitePro, and he's
currently using IIS.  Anything else to look out for?

best,  paul

At 03:41 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Paul,
>It would depend on what kinds of "issues" you might be referring to. But the
>ones I can think of are:
>
>1. Making sure you have a merchant account set up on your machine (done on
>CyberCrash's site)
>
>2. Have the CFX_CyberCash tag properly installed
>
>3. Switch all references to the off-site's hash key, merchant-ID, etc., to
>your site's info throughout your templates.
>
>4. If you're using a secure server environment (which I would hope you are
>if in production!), make sure that you have properly set up an account with
>VeriSign or any other certified vendor.
>
>Any more questions, let me know and I'll do my best to help.
>
>Regards,
>Dave.
>
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (paul smith)
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: General Credit Card processing question
> >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:51:30 -0700
> >
> >Are there issues in transferring a CyberCash CF website
> >from one web server to another (from off site to my site)?
> >
> >best,  paul
> >
> >At 12:13 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
> > >OK, so you all see the subject and say "Oh God, search the archives! It's
> > >been discussed here a million times!" Well, I have been a member of this
> > >list for a long time and have been developing advanced CF apps for over 2
> > >years now. So I don't write this from the angle of a new developer or
> >just
> > >being too lazy to do the research myself.
> > >
> > >After reading every thread possible and implementing several different
> > >credit card processing solutions myself, I really would like to have a
> > >healthy discussion about who's the best and the easiest to use. My
> >company
> > >is a CyberCash partner. I've implemented their systems more than I care
> >to
> > >remember. But, to be honest, I *hate* CyberCash. While it is easy to
> > >implement from a developer's standpoint, I think that the company and
> >their
> > >systems are garbage. This comes after numerous support conversations
> >where I
> > >seem to know more than they do! Now, I should quickly follow that up by
> > >saying that I am by no means a CyberCash authority, but it seems that
> >when I
> > >actually get a live person over there, I'm telling *them* how their
> >system
> > >should work!
> > >
> > >So what's my question? Well, what do you all use out there? What works
> >and,
> > >more importantly, is *reliable*? I am frustrated to no end with CyberCash
> > >telling me "Our systems are down...We don't know when they'll be up
> >again."
> > >Any thoughts you all may have would be great. i.e., what's the deal with
> > >Payment.net, Signio, etc.?
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >Dave.
> > >
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RE: shipping costs

[Ben Forta]

Nice, so they create an API and document it but they don't want folks using
it? I thought too much traffic was a good thing! Hum.

FYI, I am trying to wrap a revamp of that tag, new CF_UPS tag does pricing
and a lot more (tracking, comparisons of shipping options, etc).

--- Ben


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: shipping costs


We have experienced the CF_UPSPrice tag timing out when contacting the UPS
site recently, especially in the early afternoon East Coast time.  This
produces a shipping price of $0.00.  When discussing this with UPS, they
strongly suggest NOT using this tag.  It is sending too much traffic to
their servers.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Laura


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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: shipping costs


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> Hey CF people,
>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs. Are
> most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the
prices
> from the shipping service and getting a price back based on location?
>
> Shawn Regan
>
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>  charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>  5.5.2650.12">
> shipping costs
> 
> 
>
> Hey CF people,
> 
>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate =
> shipping costs. Are most people setting a global shipping price, or are =
> they pulling the prices from the shipping service and getting a price =
> back based on location?
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Checking file dimensions.

[Todd Ashworth]

This is going to sound a little weird, but I am wondering if there is a way
to figure out the dimensions of an image file, before it is displayed on the
web site, and take some action if it is over a certain width.

Todd


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SQL7 Keeps Switching to Single User?

[Todd Mathews]

Hi all,

Back to the list after catching up with tons of other stuff...

Running CF 4.51E on win2K connected to SQL7(sp2) on another win2k box. Also 
running Forums 2.05.

Occasionally the SQL7 will switch the CFVARS database or one of the Forums 
databases to single user only for no apparent reason. I have scoured 
through the logs and searched all of the Forum archives for and ideas and 
am at a loss as to how to stop it from switching to single user.

There seems to be no pattern to the event occurring and a quick trip to the 
sql7 admin will allow it to be reset to multi user.

Anyone else seen this or have any ideas?

(I apologize ahead of time if this topic has been covered recently, I tried 
to search the Cf-talk archives at e-groups and they seem to stop around the 
end of Jan, 2000).


Thanks.

Todd


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Re: Automatically transferring data from one table to another

[John Allred]

Eron Cohen wrote:
> 
> Earl,
> 
> Rather than have two tables, why not have a checkbox field in the database
> table labled "Approved".
> When you go to output your jokes, just make sure you have something like
> WHERE Approved=1, that way people viewing the site will only see your
> approved jokes.  This is easier to do and more efficient than having two
> seperate tables.
> 

I'm kind of curious about this too. I've set up a link submission form
using one table with the "Approve" column, but I'm also allowing
modifications to existing records. If I cause the "Approve" flag to be
reset when someone changes a link, I take it out of service. I can't
allow them to modify my live table, so I'd kind of like to use this
method that Earl is asking about.

Thanks,
John Allred
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Blue Martini

[Ken Monroe]

We got any Blue Martini (No, not that kind!) experience/opinions out there?

Thx

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PING to check URL

[John Allred]

I can't find any documentation on using the PING command to check for a
valid URL. The alternative is to force my users to do it, when all I
want is to check its validity before allowing them to enter it on my
site.

Any thoughts?

TIA,
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Mississippi Counties
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Re: General Credit Card processing question

[Cold Fusion Newsgroup]

We are also looking for alternatives to Cybercash.  Is anyone using any
other service?

Laura

- Original Message -
From: paul smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: General Credit Card processing question


> Are there issues in transferring a CyberCash CF website
> from one web server to another (from off site to my site)?
>
> best,  paul
>
> At 12:13 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >OK, so you all see the subject and say "Oh God, search the archives! It's
> >been discussed here a million times!" Well, I have been a member of this
> >list for a long time and have been developing advanced CF apps for over 2
> >years now. So I don't write this from the angle of a new developer or
just
> >being too lazy to do the research myself.
> >
> >After reading every thread possible and implementing several different
> >credit card processing solutions myself, I really would like to have a
> >healthy discussion about who's the best and the easiest to use. My
company
> >is a CyberCash partner. I've implemented their systems more than I care
to
> >remember. But, to be honest, I *hate* CyberCash. While it is easy to
> >implement from a developer's standpoint, I think that the company and
their
> >systems are garbage. This comes after numerous support conversations
where I
> >seem to know more than they do! Now, I should quickly follow that up by
> >saying that I am by no means a CyberCash authority, but it seems that
when I
> >actually get a live person over there, I'm telling *them* how their
system
> >should work!
> >
> >So what's my question? Well, what do you all use out there? What works
and,
> >more importantly, is *reliable*? I am frustrated to no end with CyberCash
> >telling me "Our systems are down...We don't know when they'll be up
again."
> >Any thoughts you all may have would be great. i.e., what's the deal with
> >Payment.net, Signio, etc.?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Dave.
> >
> >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
> >
>
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RE: shipping costs

[Shawn Regan]

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RE: CFTRANSACTION and Database connection pooling

[Dave Watts]

> Does anyone know how CFTRANSACTION and database connection pooling
> interact?
>
> My specific question is: If I wrap a series of SQL commands (some
> creating temp tables, some updating temp tables, some querying those
> same tables) within a CFTRANSACTION tag, does CF Server maintain the
> connection to the database, in spite of the fact that we are using
> connection pooling?
>
> Or does it (potentially) grab a different connection for each
> command? That is, are these two completely unrelated?

A single connection will be used for all queries within the same
CFTRANSACTION tag, assuming they all use the same datasource, username and
password. If they don't, I suspect that CFTRANSACTION doesn't really do
anything.

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Re: Automatically transferring data from one table to another

[Joel Firestone]

Hubert:

I've found just setting an extra Yes/No column (called "Pending" in this
example)
in your main table. When a joke is submitted, it automatically sets "Pending" to
Yes.
Then, build a page that shows all of the items with Pending checked "Yes", and
build it so all chosen id's get changed to "No" for Pending.

Otherwise, you could build a page to do it manually, or hourly/daily/weekly
with CFSCHEDULE.

Joel

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: Hi,
:
: Is there a way I may transfer data from one table to another automatically?
: I have a table containing jokes which can be accessed thru a browser.  I'm
: building another to which anyone can upload jokes.  After reviewing them, I
: want to be able to transfer any I wish to keep automatically to my first
: table, without having to copy and paste them (for example).  I'd appreciate
: any suggestions.
:
: Sincerely,
: ---
: Hubert Earl
: ICQ#:  16199853
:
: I develop & maintain web sites internationally.  I also build web
: applications using ColdFusion, JavaScript and CGI scripts written in Perl.
: I accept subcontracting work.
:
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Automatic password Generation

[Ben Densmore]

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Does anyone know how to automatically generate passwords for users? I =
saw it on Allaires download section and was curious as to how to do =
that.

Thanks,

Ben Densmore
Webmaster
eSupport.com, Inc
TouchStone Software Corp.


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Does anyone know how to automatically =
generate=20
passwords for users? I saw it on Allaires download section and was =
curious as to=20
how to do that.
 
Thanks,
 
Ben =
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CFSERVLET --> WebLogic Server

[!jeff!]

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The cfservlet tag seems to assume that you're using JRUN as your J2EE app 
server (wonder why).  I'm trying to get CFSERVLET to hand off to a WebLogic 
5.1 server.

Has anyone had any luck doing this?

I'm getting this error...
Too many concurrent JRun requests
JRun is busy. Please try again, or contact the system administrator for 
this web site.

But of course there is only 1 connection.

tia,
jeff





!j!

The mark of mediocrity is searching for the precedent.

!jeff! sherwood Director of BIGWORDS.com Web Site Design / JEDI
   BIGWORDS.com worker#2
.r.e.c.o.v.e.r.e.d.n.e.t.s.c.a.p.e.u.s.e.r. . . . 415.543.1400.x300

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The cfservlet tag seems to assume that you're using JRUN as your J2EE app
server (wonder why).  I'm trying to get CFSERVLET to hand off to a
WebLogic 5.1 server.

Has anyone had any luck doing this?

I'm getting this error...
Too many concurrent JRun requests
JRun is busy. Please try again, or contact the system
administrator for this web site.

But of course there is only 1 connection.

tia,
jeff






!j!

The mark of mediocrity is searching for the precedent.

!jeff! sherwood Director of BIGWORDS.com Web Site
Design / JEDI
 
BIGWORDS.com worker#2
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Re: [RE: How to write WAP application by CF??]

[Bob Smith]

Could you please forward a copy to me too.
Thanks,
Bob

Ian Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Albert,
> 
> I have some sample code from a presentation to the Seattle CFUG, if you'd
> like.
> 
> Ian
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Hi there,
> 
>   I would like to write a WAP application by ColdFusion.  Can someone
> give me
> some information??  Thanx in advance.
> 
> Albert
> 
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CFSERVLET --> WebLogic Server

[!jeff!]

The cfservlet tag seems to assume that you're using JRUN as your J2EE app 
server (wonder why).  I'm trying to get CFSERVLET to hand off to a WebLogic 
5.1 server.

Has anyone had any luck doing this?

tia,
jeff





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RE: Automatically transferring data from one table to another

[Gary McNeel, Jr.]

Use one table and just set a flag (yes/no or true/false or 0/1 depending on
your database) field. When people upload a joke the flag is set to No (or 0
or False) by default.

After you review the joke, you set the flag to Yes (or 1 or True).

Then in your CF code ONLY show jokes that have the flag set to Yes.


SELECT *
FROM Jokes
WHERE Flag = Yes (or whatever your flag equals)


That should work and no coping/duplicate tables and data. If you like you
can then purge all No records later.


Gary McNeel, Jr.
Project Manager - DAC-Net, Research & Graduate Studies
Rice University - Houston
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something I cannot allow to happen."
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> -Original Message-
> From: Hubert Earl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Automatically transferring data from one table to another
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way I may transfer data from one table to another
> automatically?
> I have a table containing jokes which can be accessed thru a browser.  I'm
> building another to which anyone can upload jokes.  After
> reviewing them, I
> want to be able to transfer any I wish to keep automatically to my first
> table, without having to copy and paste them (for example).  I'd
> appreciate
> any suggestions.
>
> Sincerely,
> ---
> Hubert Earl
> ICQ#:  16199853
>
> I develop & maintain web sites internationally.  I also build web
> applications using ColdFusion, JavaScript and CGI scripts written in Perl.
> I accept subcontracting work.
>
> **Personal web site:  http://www.geocities.com/hfme/
> (please remember to view this with a sense of humor!)
>
> **Business web page:  http://home.talkcity.com/MigrationPath/hearl/
>
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Documentation Methods

[Craig M. Rosenblum]

What kind of programs do you use to grab different comments and compile them
into a Documentation Manual for each page?

What kind of Documentation Methodologies do you use?

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Re: oracle error

[Deanna L. Schneider]

Woo hoo! Thanks. I knew it must be something simple.

-d




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Re: General Credit Card processing question

[Dave Carabetta]

Paul,
It would depend on what kinds of "issues" you might be referring to. But the 
ones I can think of are:

1. Making sure you have a merchant account set up on your machine (done on 
CyberCrash's site)

2. Have the CFX_CyberCash tag properly installed

3. Switch all references to the off-site's hash key, merchant-ID, etc., to 
your site's info throughout your templates.

4. If you're using a secure server environment (which I would hope you are 
if in production!), make sure that you have properly set up an account with 
VeriSign or any other certified vendor.

Any more questions, let me know and I'll do my best to help.

Regards,
Dave.


>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (paul smith)
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: General Credit Card processing question
>Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 10:51:30 -0700
>
>Are there issues in transferring a CyberCash CF website
>from one web server to another (from off site to my site)?
>
>best,  paul
>
>At 12:13 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >OK, so you all see the subject and say "Oh God, search the archives! It's
> >been discussed here a million times!" Well, I have been a member of this
> >list for a long time and have been developing advanced CF apps for over 2
> >years now. So I don't write this from the angle of a new developer or 
>just
> >being too lazy to do the research myself.
> >
> >After reading every thread possible and implementing several different
> >credit card processing solutions myself, I really would like to have a
> >healthy discussion about who's the best and the easiest to use. My 
>company
> >is a CyberCash partner. I've implemented their systems more than I care 
>to
> >remember. But, to be honest, I *hate* CyberCash. While it is easy to
> >implement from a developer's standpoint, I think that the company and 
>their
> >systems are garbage. This comes after numerous support conversations 
>where I
> >seem to know more than they do! Now, I should quickly follow that up by
> >saying that I am by no means a CyberCash authority, but it seems that 
>when I
> >actually get a live person over there, I'm telling *them* how their 
>system
> >should work!
> >
> >So what's my question? Well, what do you all use out there? What works 
>and,
> >more importantly, is *reliable*? I am frustrated to no end with CyberCash
> >telling me "Our systems are down...We don't know when they'll be up 
>again."
> >Any thoughts you all may have would be great. i.e., what's the deal with
> >Payment.net, Signio, etc.?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >Dave.
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Re: shipping costs

[Cold Fusion Newsgroup]

We have experienced the CF_UPSPrice tag timing out when contacting the UPS
site recently, especially in the early afternoon East Coast time.  This
produces a shipping price of $0.00.  When discussing this with UPS, they
strongly suggest NOT using this tag.  It is sending too much traffic to
their servers.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Laura


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>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs. Are
> most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the
prices
> from the shipping service and getting a price back based on location?
>
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> 
>
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> 
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RE: Automatically transferring data from one table to another

[Eron Cohen]

Earl,

Rather than have two tables, why not have a checkbox field in the database
table labled "Approved".
When you go to output your jokes, just make sure you have something like
WHERE Approved=1, that way people viewing the site will only see your
approved jokes.  This is easier to do and more efficient than having two
seperate tables.

HTH,


Eron

-Original Message-
From: Hubert Earl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Automatically transferring data from one table to another


Hi,

Is there a way I may transfer data from one table to another automatically?
I have a table containing jokes which can be accessed thru a browser.  I'm
building another to which anyone can upload jokes.  After reviewing them, I
want to be able to transfer any I wish to keep automatically to my first
table, without having to copy and paste them (for example).  I'd appreciate
any suggestions.

Sincerely,
---
Hubert Earl
ICQ#:  16199853

I develop & maintain web sites internationally.  I also build web
applications using ColdFusion, JavaScript and CGI scripts written in Perl.
I accept subcontracting work.

**Personal web site:  http://www.geocities.com/hfme/
(please remember to view this with a sense of humor!)

**Business web page:  http://home.talkcity.com/MigrationPath/hearl/


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RE: Posting with to an Active Server Page

[jstiefel]

The variables do not need to be URL encoded when the form method is post.
They're sent in the header, not on the URL.

-Original Message-
From: Byron Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 3:09 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Well, this proves that CFHTTP is claiming that it is URLEncoded, but that
doesn't mean that it actually is.  Try assigning the variable a string of
characters with spaces and special characters and see if the ASP still
works.  And, if you want to make the test even more accurate, use more than
one variable with different values, including null:





http://168.144.126.105/test.asp" method="post">





I'm posting a form to a remote server running PERL, and I had this problem.
Basically, the variables are not getting URL Encoded by , so I've
had to encode them like this:



Once I did this, everything worked fine.  Just thought you might want to
give this a try.

Byron Stuart
Data Critical Corporation
Wireless and Internet Systems for Healthcare
http://www.unwireddr.com


-Original Message-
From: Leong Yew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Bill,

I might have to disagree with you somewhat. When you use the  tag,
CF does send the form data over to the target page as
application...form-urlencoded. And ASP should return the processed stuff
back to CF as text/html.

I've done a little testing with the following:

On test.cfm I had this code:





Untitled




http://168.144.126.105/test.asp" method="post">





Let's see if this works: 
#cfhttp.filecontent#





and as for test.asp:

<%

AnotherVar = Request.Form("ThisVar")
SystemVar = Request.ServerVariables("CONTENT_TYPE")

%>

The value of AnotherVar is <%= AnotherVar %>
The value of SystemVar is <%= SystemVar %>

When I used my browser and typed in http://blah.blah/test.cfm

This is what I get in my browser window:

Let's see if this works:
The value of AnotherVar is variable
The value of SystemVar is application/x-www-form-urlencoded

===

(In this case test.cfm and test.asp are on different servers)
You're welcome to copy the code for test.cfm onto your server and to test it
against the code on my server (http://168.144.126.105/test.asp). I'd like to
know if you get the same results.

Regards

Leong

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Leong,

It's not a localhost problem.  We have multiple servers to test against and
the problem is the same with remote servers.

As far as I can tell the problem is with the "Content Type".  ASP defaults
to "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" and CFHTTP always uses
"Content-Type: text/html".

If Content-Type is the problem, I have not been able to change it using the
CFHTTP tag.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Leong Yew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Bill,

I'm a bit baffled by this still. Does anyone listening in have any idea?

I'm still toying with the problem with the localhost reference in the URL
attribute. Theoretically, if you point the URL back to the local server --
127.0.0.1 it should be able to locate the action page. If it works with CFM
templates and HTM docs but not ASP, I'm wondering if the CF server has an
exclusive hold on it. This is my suspicion:

1. If you use CFHTTP and a local URL reference, CF server assumes that it is
an internal file and tries to access it directly. It parses both CFM and HTM
immediately.

2. Since ASP needs to be processed by IIS (am I right in saying this?) the
CF server will access the ASP code unparsed, which results in the problem
mentioned below.

3. The only way for CFHTTP to work is to make the URL an external call, ie.
use a domain-based URL instead of the localhost reference. CF will assume
that the file has to be accessed remotely. This way the ASP page will be
parsed properly.

Is this scenario correct?


Leong
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From: Bill Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Leong,

If I post to a CFM page, the #CFHTTP.filecontent# comes back complete.  But,
when I post to an ASP page, the #CFHTTP.filecontent# is empty.  No errors,
just an indication that the posting didn't occur.  When you debug the ASP
page, no form variables show up on that end.  Seems like a simple thing to
post to a page and have the page receive your form variables, but not for me
so far.  No hurry, have a good evening.

Bill

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CFTRANSACTION and Database connection pooling

[Brian Cusack]

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Hello, all.

Does anyone know how CFTRANSACTION and database connection pooling =
interact? =20

My specific question is: If I wrap a series of SQL commands (some =
creating temp tables, some updating temp tables, some querying those =
same tables) within a CFTRANSACTION tag, does CF Server maintain the =
connection to the database, in spite of the fact that we are using =
connection pooling? =20

Or does it (potentially) grab a different connection for each command?  =
That is, are these two completely unrelated?

Please let me know if you need more detail.

Thanks!

Brian
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Hello, all.
 
Does anyone know how CFTRANSACTION and database =

connection pooling interact?  
 
My specific question is: If I wrap a series =
of SQL=20
commands (some creating temp tables, some updating temp tables, =
some=20
querying those same tables) within a CFTRANSACTION tag, does CF Server =
maintain=20
the connection to the database, in spite of the fact that we are using=20
connection pooling?  
 
Or does it (potentially) grab a different connection =
for each=20
command?  That is, are these two completely unrelated?
 
Please let me know if you need more =
detail.
 
Thanks!
 
Brian
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Re: shipping costs

[Bud]

On 5/30/00, Shawn Regan penned:
>I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs. Are
>most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the prices
>from the shipping service and getting a price back based on location?

I personally tries to cover alot of bases in my cart.

1. Get prices from UPS (Thanks to BF's tag)
2. Flat fee per order.
3. Fee per item
4. Fee based on $x.xx for 1st pound and $x.xx for each addt'l pound.

One thing to remember if you go the UPS online route is, the max 
weight per item is 150 lbs. So, if you sell 3 - 60 lb. items and do 
one call to UPS for 180 lbs. you'll get an error. I set mine up to 
where it will loop to UPS for each item, or based on when it gets to 
a certain weight or not at all. Another fine line is, if you're 
selling things that are small and light and other things that are 
heavy, the looping can get tricky. If you go to UPS 5 times for 1/2 
lb. items, it returns that first pound charge for each item. So, that 
way it may return 75 bucks when in reality it may only cost you 15-20 
if you can get all 5 one lb. items in a small package. In that case, 
I set it to loop at the weight of the heaviest item.
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Automatically transferring data from one table to another

[Hubert Earl]

Hi,

Is there a way I may transfer data from one table to another automatically?
I have a table containing jokes which can be accessed thru a browser.  I'm
building another to which anyone can upload jokes.  After reviewing them, I
want to be able to transfer any I wish to keep automatically to my first
table, without having to copy and paste them (for example).  I'd appreciate
any suggestions.

Sincerely,
---
Hubert Earl
ICQ#:  16199853

I develop & maintain web sites internationally.  I also build web
applications using ColdFusion, JavaScript and CGI scripts written in Perl.
I accept subcontracting work.

**Personal web site:  http://www.geocities.com/hfme/
(please remember to view this with a sense of humor!)

**Business web page:  http://home.talkcity.com/MigrationPath/hearl/

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RE: Posting with to an Active Server Page

[Byron Stuart]

Well, this proves that CFHTTP is claiming that it is URLEncoded, but that
doesn't mean that it actually is.  Try assigning the variable a string of
characters with spaces and special characters and see if the ASP still
works.  And, if you want to make the test even more accurate, use more than
one variable with different values, including null:





http://168.144.126.105/test.asp" method="post">





I'm posting a form to a remote server running PERL, and I had this problem.
Basically, the variables are not getting URL Encoded by , so I've
had to encode them like this:



Once I did this, everything worked fine.  Just thought you might want to
give this a try.

Byron Stuart
Data Critical Corporation
Wireless and Internet Systems for Healthcare
http://www.unwireddr.com


-Original Message-
From: Leong Yew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Bill,

I might have to disagree with you somewhat. When you use the  tag,
CF does send the form data over to the target page as
application...form-urlencoded. And ASP should return the processed stuff
back to CF as text/html.

I've done a little testing with the following:

On test.cfm I had this code:





Untitled




http://168.144.126.105/test.asp" method="post">





Let's see if this works: 
#cfhttp.filecontent#





and as for test.asp:

<%

AnotherVar = Request.Form("ThisVar")
SystemVar = Request.ServerVariables("CONTENT_TYPE")

%>

The value of AnotherVar is <%= AnotherVar %>
The value of SystemVar is <%= SystemVar %>

When I used my browser and typed in http://blah.blah/test.cfm

This is what I get in my browser window:

Let's see if this works:
The value of AnotherVar is variable
The value of SystemVar is application/x-www-form-urlencoded

===

(In this case test.cfm and test.asp are on different servers)
You're welcome to copy the code for test.cfm onto your server and to test it
against the code on my server (http://168.144.126.105/test.asp). I'd like to
know if you get the same results.

Regards

Leong

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From: Bill Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Leong,

It's not a localhost problem.  We have multiple servers to test against and
the problem is the same with remote servers.

As far as I can tell the problem is with the "Content Type".  ASP defaults
to "Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded" and CFHTTP always uses
"Content-Type: text/html".

If Content-Type is the problem, I have not been able to change it using the
CFHTTP tag.

Bill

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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:43 AM
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Subject: RE: Posting with  to an Active Server Page


Bill,

I'm a bit baffled by this still. Does anyone listening in have any idea?

I'm still toying with the problem with the localhost reference in the URL
attribute. Theoretically, if you point the URL back to the local server --
127.0.0.1 it should be able to locate the action page. If it works with CFM
templates and HTM docs but not ASP, I'm wondering if the CF server has an
exclusive hold on it. This is my suspicion:

1. If you use CFHTTP and a local URL reference, CF server assumes that it is
an internal file and tries to access it directly. It parses both CFM and HTM
immediately.

2. Since ASP needs to be processed by IIS (am I right in saying this?) the
CF server will access the ASP code unparsed, which results in the problem
mentioned below.

3. The only way for CFHTTP to work is to make the URL an external call, ie.
use a domain-based URL instead of the localhost reference. CF will assume
that the file has to be accessed remotely. This way the ASP page will be
parsed properly.

Is this scenario correct?


Leong
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From: Bill Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 1:21 AM
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Leong,

If I post to a CFM page, the #CFHTTP.filecontent# comes back complete.  But,
when I post to an ASP page, the #CFHTTP.filecontent# is empty.  No errors,
just an indication that the posting didn't occur.  When you debug the ASP
page, no form variables show up on that end.  Seems like a simple thing to
post to a page and have the page receive your form variables, but not for me
so far.  No hurry, have a good evening.

Bill

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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:00 AM
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Bill,

I'm not sure if I understand your intentions correctly. You mean to say that
if you're using CFHTTP to post form information to a cf template with the
code similar to the one below, it works. But when you use that exact code
below, it doesn't work? What error message/s are you

Cold Fusion becomes disabled because of user errors

[AMAN, ALICE L. (JSC-GT)]

 The Cold Fusion on our IIS NT (4.0 I think) Web server crashes quite often.
At least once per week and sometimes several times in one day. When I notice
it, I call the admin and he "restarts" Cold Fusion. The IIS part of the IIS
server doesn't seem to be affected.  I am told this reliabilty problem is
because some users are putting development CF code on the production server
(we have a development server also)  thus causing  more errors than Cold
Fusion can handle so it quits processing web pages or it quits processing
web pages for display on browser screens  because it is so busy writing data
to the error log.
  Does anyone else know if their server is having this problem? Cold Fusion
is getting a very bad reputation for reliability on our site.  I wonder if
it isn't a server/Cold Fusion admin problem instead.  Surely, there must be
some kind of Cold Fusion intelligence that could be configured that would
prevent user errors from bringing it down. 
  Any info would be appreciated.

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RE: oracle error

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what does your schema look like for this table?  I dunno if those '' are
being interpretted as NULLS, so check to see if linkpage and imagename allow
nulls or not

also, you may have to surround your dates in single quotes too.

just things to try really.  Oracle error messages are usually a joke.

post your schema and I will see if I can spot anything

--b

-Original Message-
From: Deanna L. Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:54 PM
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Subject: oracle error


I'm relatively new to oracle. I've looked at the oracle site and not been
able to figure this out. Help anyone? The oracle site says that the error
usually means a column name was used in the "values" section of an insert
query, but none of those values are also column names...

Oracle Error Code = 984

ORA-00984: column not allowed here



SQL = "INSERT INTO coopep.coopwebnews(articleid, headline, fulltext,
linkpage, imagename, publishdate, archivedate, sortorder) VALUES (4, 'Test
Insert Article',
'ldkjflaskjdflaskjdfla;ksjdflkajsfdlkasjdflkjasfldkjasklfdjlsakjfdlaskjdflka
sjfdlkjsadfljsalfdjlsajflkjasflkjsafdlkjsaflkjaslfdkjalskjfdlajsld;fjalskfjd
lsakjfdlaskjfdlskajfdThisistheend.', '', '', 04-Apr-2000, 10-Oct-2000, 3)"

Data Source = "d815a"

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFQUERY), occupying document position (17:1) to (17:91).





Deanna Schneider
Interactive Media Developer
UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing Group
103 Extension Bldg
432 N. Lake Street
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 265-7923




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RE: oracle error



what does your schema look like for this table?  =
I dunno if those '' are being interpretted as NULLS, so check to see if =
linkpage and imagename allow nulls or not

also, you may have to surround your dates in single =
quotes too.


just things to try really.  Oracle error =
messages are usually a joke.


post your schema and I will see if I can spot =
anything


--b


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s.uwex.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:54 PM
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Subject: oracle error



I'm relatively new to oracle. I've looked at the =
oracle site and not been
able to figure this out. Help anyone? The oracle =
site says that the error
usually means a column name was used in the =
"values" section of an insert
query, but none of those values are also column =
names...


Oracle Error Code =3D 984


ORA-00984: column not allowed here




SQL =3D "INSERT INTO =
coopep.coopwebnews(articleid, headline, fulltext,
linkpage, imagename, publishdate, archivedate, =
sortorder) VALUES (4, 'Test
Insert Article',
'ldkjflaskjdflaskjdfla;ksjdflkajsfdlkasjdflkjasfldkjasklfdjlsak=
jfdlaskjdflka
sjfdlkjsadfljsalfdjlsajflkjasflkjsafdlkjsaflkjaslfdkjalskjfdlaj=
sld;fjalskfjd
lsakjfdlaskjfdlskajfdThisistheend.', '', '', =
04-Apr-2000, 10-Oct-2000, 3)"


Data Source =3D "d815a"


The error occurred while processing an element with a =
general identifier of
(CFQUERY), occupying document position (17:1) to =
(17:91).






Deanna Schneider
Interactive Media Developer
UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing =
Group
103 Extension Bldg
432 N. Lake Street
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 265-7923




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RE: header info without wddx

[Dave Watts]

> Is there a way to access binary http header
> information (to parse incoming XML or other data) in
> CF?
>
> What are some of the options when dealing with this?

To the best of my knowledge, you can't have any binary data, or even
Base64-encoded data, within an HTTP request header. You could have data in
the response body, but typically this would be encoded as form data (for
example, after uploading a file).

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RE: oracle error

[mherbene]

Oracle wants dates enclosed in single quotes ('04-Apr-2000' instead of
04-Apr-2000) and is trying to interpret 04-Apr-2000 as a column name since
it doesn't think it's a date value.

-Original Message-
From: Deanna L. Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: oracle error


I'm relatively new to oracle. I've looked at the oracle site and not been
able to figure this out. Help anyone? The oracle site says that the error
usually means a column name was used in the "values" section of an insert
query, but none of those values are also column names...

Oracle Error Code = 984

ORA-00984: column not allowed here



SQL = "INSERT INTO coopep.coopwebnews(articleid, headline, fulltext,
linkpage, imagename, publishdate, archivedate, sortorder) VALUES (4, 'Test
Insert Article',
'ldkjflaskjdflaskjdfla;ksjdflkajsfdlkasjdflkjasfldkjasklfdjlsakjfdlaskjdflka
sjfdlkjsadfljsalfdjlsajflkjasflkjsafdlkjsaflkjaslfdkjalskjfdlajsld;fjalskfjd
lsakjfdlaskjfdlskajfdThisistheend.', '', '', 04-Apr-2000, 10-Oct-2000, 3)"

Data Source = "d815a"

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFQUERY), occupying document position (17:1) to (17:91).





Deanna Schneider
Interactive Media Developer
UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing Group
103 Extension Bldg
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Re: shipping costs

[Cam Wilson]

Shawn,

I use CF_UPSPrice. It works really well and is well documented. You can
search for it in the Developers Exchange on Allaire's site.

Cam Wilson


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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:23 PM
Subject: shipping costs
>
> Hey CF people,
>
> I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs. Are
> most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the
prices
> from the shipping service and getting a price back based on location?
>
> Shawn Regan
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oracle error

[Deanna L. Schneider]

I'm relatively new to oracle. I've looked at the oracle site and not been
able to figure this out. Help anyone? The oracle site says that the error
usually means a column name was used in the "values" section of an insert
query, but none of those values are also column names...

Oracle Error Code = 984

ORA-00984: column not allowed here



SQL = "INSERT INTO coopep.coopwebnews(articleid, headline, fulltext,
linkpage, imagename, publishdate, archivedate, sortorder) VALUES (4, 'Test
Insert Article',
'ldkjflaskjdflaskjdfla;ksjdflkajsfdlkasjdflkjasfldkjasklfdjlsakjfdlaskjdflka
sjfdlkjsadfljsalfdjlsajflkjasflkjsafdlkjsaflkjaslfdkjalskjfdlajsld;fjalskfjd
lsakjfdlaskjfdlskajfdThisistheend.', '', '', 04-Apr-2000, 10-Oct-2000, 3)"

Data Source = "d815a"

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of
(CFQUERY), occupying document position (17:1) to (17:91).





Deanna Schneider
Interactive Media Developer
UWEX Cooperative Extension Electronic Publishing Group
103 Extension Bldg
432 N. Lake Street
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 265-7923



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RE: CF vs ASP

[Clint Tredway]

Basically, this is how I see it. I know both CF and ASP. If given my choice
I would use CF over ASP in 95% of the applications I build. ASP has better
file and form handling skills in my opinion, as well as it is closer to
'real' programming. Granted I feel like I am doing 'real' programming when I
code in CF, but ASP is in a nutshell, Visual Basic. 

One thing ASP has over CF is price. It is free. One thing CF has over ASP,
is it is simple, robust, and powerful. One thing that is pretty useful in
ASP is DSNless conecctions to datasources. You can access just about any
ODBC compliant data base without having to set up a DSN. On the other hande,
ASP's data access is sometimes very finicky. Basically it comes down to
personal preference.

HTH,

Clint

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:16 PM
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Subject: Re: CF vs ASP


Well another thing I found out this weekend reading through my ASP 3.0 book
is two things I think are a little slow in CF. First is that you can program
functions in ASP ie

sub Calculate()
  code here
end sub

I dont know what the CF response to this is, perhaps the custom template
comes closest. I suspect there is a "function" function in CF but not well
versed with it yet. The other thing I am seeing in ASP 3.0 is extensive use
of XML conversion without having to go through regex or WDDX as we do now. I
havent read the full chapter but it looks like you can pull info from a XML
data island right in ASP. There's a lot of WDDX stuff out there for CF right
now but I'd like to see XSL for CF become more easier and widespread.

- Original Message -
From: Bridget Corkery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:22 AM
Subject: CF vs ASP


> I wrote on Friday to ask for some good resources or reasons why CF is a
> better application developer than ASP.  Although I did receive some really
> good references, I didn't receive nearly as much of a response as I
thought
> I would.
> The web references are great and I know that everyone is very busy so I am
> just throwing it out one more time in case anyone missed it over the
holiday
> weekend.
> I have been using CF for about 7 months and love it.  However, I started
at
> a new company who initially said that using CF wouldn't be a problem.  Now
> it seems that the IT department would like to standardize the products we
> use and would like to use ASP.  I have found several articles comparing
the
> two, in which CF always wins; but I really need as much input, insight and
> advice that I possibly can on this issue because I am now a complete
> advocate of CF.
>
>
> Thanks very much and I apologize for sending the same issue in twice.
> Bridget
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header info without wddx

[Pete Thompson]

Is there a way to access binary http header
information (to parse incoming XML or other data) in
CF?

What are some of the options when dealing with this?

Pete

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shipping costs

[Shawn Regan]

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Hey CF people,

I want to find out what people are doing to calculate shipping costs. Are
most people setting a global shipping price, or are they pulling the prices
from the shipping service and getting a price back based on location?

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Application Variables Issues

[Bob Smith]

I have two Applications "App1" and "App2" on my ColdFusion Server4.5 in
separate directories. I have defined corresponding DSN's for these
applications which are "App1DSN" and "App2DSN". The Appliction Names and
corresponding DSN's are defined in their corresponding Application.cfm files
in their corresponding directories.
The DSN's are defined in Application Variable "Application.DSN" and are
"Application" Scoped. The locks are "Exclusive" when DSN's are set and
"ReadOnly" when read.

Problem:
App2 sometimes complains of not finding tables in DSN "App1DSN" which is
strange as it is looking for App1's DSN. 
 I can work around by naming the DSN's differently but my understanding was
that these two memory variables should have been protected from their
Application Names.
Am I wrong?
Thanks,
Bob

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RE: Re: ACCEPT attribute

[nair ajit]

Hi David,

Thank you for your answer.
But what is it I'm supposed to do?
Is it that i'll write


Do let me know.
Thanks.

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From: "David E. Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 30, 2000 5:53:09 PM GMT
Subject: Re: ACCEPT attribute


Well, if you really have "images/gif, images/jpeg" in there, it shouldn't
work anyway. Those are invalid mime-types.  I have never had problems with
the accept attributes.  In fact sometimes it works too well, when
progressive jpegs are used, which even though they have .jpg extensions,
their mime-type is PJPEG.  I would suggest however, that a better choice
would be to force a valid set of file extensions such as GIF or JPG instead
of trying to rely on the browser to properly report the mime type.

DC

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From: "nair ajit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 17:47
Subject: ACCEPT attribute


> Hi,
>
> I'm using  command's UPLOAD action to upload photographs.In
> order to
> restrict the users from uploading files other than gif's or jpeg's, i
> used
> the ACCEPT attribute ie.
>
>  accept="images/gif, images/jpeg">
>
> But now what is happening is that even if I give an html file or an exe
> file
> to upload,it accepts & that file is stored in the destination directory.
>
> Please give me a solution to this problem.
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RE: Re: ACCEPT attribute

[nair ajit]

Hi David,

Thank you for your answer.
But what is it I'm supposed to do?
Is it that i'll write


Do let me know.
Thanks.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 30, 2000 5:53:09 PM GMT
Subject: Re: ACCEPT attribute


Well, if you really have "images/gif, images/jpeg" in there, it shouldn't
work anyway. Those are invalid mime-types.  I have never had problems with
the accept attributes.  In fact sometimes it works too well, when
progressive jpegs are used, which even though they have .jpg extensions,
their mime-type is PJPEG.  I would suggest however, that a better choice
would be to force a valid set of file extensions such as GIF or JPG instead
of trying to rely on the browser to properly report the mime type.

DC

- Original Message -
From: "nair ajit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 17:47
Subject: ACCEPT attribute


> Hi,
>
> I'm using  command's UPLOAD action to upload photographs.In
> order to
> restrict the users from uploading files other than gif's or jpeg's, i
> used
> the ACCEPT attribute ie.
>
>  accept="images/gif, images/jpeg">
>
> But now what is happening is that even if I give an html file or an exe
> file
> to upload,it accepts & that file is stored in the destination directory.
>
> Please give me a solution to this problem.
>
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CF variables in tables

[Lon Lentz]

   Any help on this would be mucho appreciated.

   I'm trying to setup a table with email subjects. The problem is, I want
to embed a CF variable in these subjects. I've tried this:



   But it chokes on the second word in the sentence as an invalid parser.
I'm saving the sentences as varchars with no quotes. If I put quotes around
it in the table, the text boxes do not get filled in in my editing template.



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Re: ACCEPT attribute

[David E. Crawford]

Well, if you really have "images/gif, images/jpeg" in there, it shouldn't
work anyway. Those are invalid mime-types.  I have never had problems with
the accept attributes.  In fact sometimes it works too well, when
progressive jpegs are used, which even though they have .jpg extensions,
their mime-type is PJPEG.  I would suggest however, that a better choice
would be to force a valid set of file extensions such as GIF or JPG instead
of trying to rely on the browser to properly report the mime type.

DC

- Original Message -
From: "nair ajit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 17:47
Subject: ACCEPT attribute


> Hi,
>
> I'm using  command's UPLOAD action to upload photographs.In
> order to
> restrict the users from uploading files other than gif's or jpeg's, i
> used
> the ACCEPT attribute ie.
>
>  accept="images/gif, images/jpeg">
>
> But now what is happening is that even if I give an html file or an exe
> file
> to upload,it accepts & that file is stored in the destination directory.
>
> Please give me a solution to this problem.
>
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RE: AutoInstall through Cold Fusion, then it runs virus detection

[Sean M. O'Brien]

Dan,

That sounds to me like one of the InstallShield packages. Check out:
http://www.installshield.com/solutions/internetdistribution.asp for more
info.

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Dan Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 1:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AutoInstall through Cold Fusion, then it runs virus detection


Hello,

I recently experienced an auto-install from a Web site selling anti-virus
software.  After the auto-install it fired-up an dialog box that showed me
my hard drive and then when I was able to initiate the anit-virus scanning
function.  This was all done from an .ASP page.  I'm assuming it's ASP
and VB.

Is someone well versed in this area?  I would like to know what it is I have
to do/know to code this same type of functionality using Cold Fusion.

Thanks for any advice/direction.


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Re: General Credit Card processing question

[paul smith]

Are there issues in transferring a CyberCash CF website
from one web server to another (from off site to my site)?

best,  paul

At 12:13 PM 5/30/00 -0400, you wrote:
>OK, so you all see the subject and say "Oh God, search the archives! It's
>been discussed here a million times!" Well, I have been a member of this
>list for a long time and have been developing advanced CF apps for over 2
>years now. So I don't write this from the angle of a new developer or just
>being too lazy to do the research myself.
>
>After reading every thread possible and implementing several different
>credit card processing solutions myself, I really would like to have a
>healthy discussion about who's the best and the easiest to use. My company
>is a CyberCash partner. I've implemented their systems more than I care to
>remember. But, to be honest, I *hate* CyberCash. While it is easy to
>implement from a developer's standpoint, I think that the company and their
>systems are garbage. This comes after numerous support conversations where I
>seem to know more than they do! Now, I should quickly follow that up by
>saying that I am by no means a CyberCash authority, but it seems that when I
>actually get a live person over there, I'm telling *them* how their system
>should work!
>
>So what's my question? Well, what do you all use out there? What works and,
>more importantly, is *reliable*? I am frustrated to no end with CyberCash
>telling me "Our systems are down...We don't know when they'll be up again."
>Any thoughts you all may have would be great. i.e., what's the deal with
>Payment.net, Signio, etc.?
>
>Thanks.
>Dave.
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RE: AutoInstall through Cold Fusion, then it runs virus dete

[Grady Milhon]

They might have been using InstallShields Package for the Web, check out
http://www.installshield.com/pftw/  .

Hello,

I recently experienced an auto-install from a Web site selling anti-virus
software.  After the auto-install it fired-up an dialog box that showed me
my hard drive and then when I was able to initiate the anit-virus scanning
function.  This was all done from an .ASP page.  I'm assuming it's ASP
and VB.

Is someone well versed in this area?  I would like to know what it is I have
to do/know to code this same type of functionality using Cold Fusion.

Thanks for any advice/direction.


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ACCEPT attribute

[nair ajit]

Hi,

I'm using  command's UPLOAD action to upload photographs.In order to
restrict the users from uploading files other than gif's or jpeg's, i used
the ACCEPT attribute ie.



But now what is happening is that even if I give an html file or an exe file
to upload,it accepts & that file is stored in the destination directory.

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AutoInstall through Cold Fusion, then it runs virus detection

[Dan Sullivan]

Hello,

I recently experienced an auto-install from a Web site selling anti-virus
software.  After the auto-install it fired-up an dialog box that showed me
my hard drive and then when I was able to initiate the anit-virus scanning
function.  This was all done from an .ASP page.  I'm assuming it's ASP
and VB.

Is someone well versed in this area?  I would like to know what it is I have
to do/know to code this same type of functionality using Cold Fusion.

Thanks for any advice/direction.


D-

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General Credit Card processing question

[Dave Carabetta]

OK, so you all see the subject and say "Oh God, search the archives! It's 
been discussed here a million times!" Well, I have been a member of this 
list for a long time and have been developing advanced CF apps for over 2 
years now. So I don't write this from the angle of a new developer or just 
being too lazy to do the research myself.

After reading every thread possible and implementing several different  
credit card processing solutions myself, I really would like to have a 
healthy discussion about who's the best and the easiest to use. My company 
is a CyberCash partner. I've implemented their systems more than I care to 
remember. But, to be honest, I *hate* CyberCash. While it is easy to 
implement from a developer's standpoint, I think that the company and their 
systems are garbage. This comes after numerous support conversations where I 
seem to know more than they do! Now, I should quickly follow that up by 
saying that I am by no means a CyberCash authority, but it seems that when I 
actually get a live person over there, I'm telling *them* how their system 
should work!

So what's my question? Well, what do you all use out there? What works and, 
more importantly, is *reliable*? I am frustrated to no end with CyberCash 
telling me "Our systems are down...We don't know when they'll be up again." 
Any thoughts you all may have would be great. i.e., what's the deal with 
Payment.net, Signio, etc.?

Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: CFJava.cab triggering NAV warning...?

[Rey Bango]

Reed,

Its definitely a fluke. Symantec acknowledged the prob awhile back. I
believe they fixed it in a subsequent update. It only happened in NAV2000.
As long as its the CFJAVA.CAB file coming from your local machine, you'll be
fine. When you receive the ActiveX control prompt, you should see the path
for the CAB file as something like
http://127.0.0.1/CFIDE/Classes/CFjava.cab.

HTH.

Rey...

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 11:30 AM
Subject: CFJava.cab triggering NAV warning...?


> I just got a message from a user that was coming to my site for the first
> time (which means he got the CF cab download), and said that Norton
> Antivirus detected the WW.Niceday macro virus in the CFJava.cab file.
> Anyone else seen this?  I figure that it's a fluke, but it would help if
> there was something official from Allaire that said so.
>
> thanks,
> -reed
>
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Re: CF vs ASP

[John Westerlund]

Well another thing I found out this weekend reading through my ASP 3.0 book
is two things I think are a little slow in CF. First is that you can program
functions in ASP ie

sub Calculate()
  code here
end sub

I dont know what the CF response to this is, perhaps the custom template
comes closest. I suspect there is a "function" function in CF but not well
versed with it yet. The other thing I am seeing in ASP 3.0 is extensive use
of XML conversion without having to go through regex or WDDX as we do now. I
havent read the full chapter but it looks like you can pull info from a XML
data island right in ASP. There's a lot of WDDX stuff out there for CF right
now but I'd like to see XSL for CF become more easier and widespread.

- Original Message -
From: Bridget Corkery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 6:22 AM
Subject: CF vs ASP


> I wrote on Friday to ask for some good resources or reasons why CF is a
> better application developer than ASP.  Although I did receive some really
> good references, I didn't receive nearly as much of a response as I
thought
> I would.
> The web references are great and I know that everyone is very busy so I am
> just throwing it out one more time in case anyone missed it over the
holiday
> weekend.
> I have been using CF for about 7 months and love it.  However, I started
at
> a new company who initially said that using CF wouldn't be a problem.  Now
> it seems that the IT department would like to standardize the products we
> use and would like to use ASP.  I have found several articles comparing
the
> two, in which CF always wins; but I really need as much input, insight and
> advice that I possibly can on this issue because I am now a complete
> advocate of CF.
>
>
> Thanks very much and I apologize for sending the same issue in twice.
> Bridget
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Re: CF and JRUN

[Pete Thompson]

Thanks, Cary.. 

I found a good article on the subject here:

http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=11941&Method=Full&Cache=Off

Thanks again!
Pete

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> call Java Server Pages 
> from CF and you can call servlets in CF pages (if
> you have JRun).
> 
> You cannot embed jsp syntax in CF pages or vice
> versa.
> 
> Cary
> 
> At 08:25 AM 5/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello all..
> >
> >Quick question for the lot..
> >
> >Does JRUN allow both CF and JSP pages to coexist?
> I've
> >been searching through the JRUN docs, but can't
> really
> >find any references.. a pointer or link would be
> quite
> >helpful..
> >
> >Thanks!
> >Pete
> 
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Re: CF and JRUN

[Cary Gordon]

It depends on what you mean by "coexist."  You can call Java Server Pages 
from CF and you can call servlets in CF pages (if you have JRun).

You cannot embed jsp syntax in CF pages or vice versa.

Cary

At 08:25 AM 5/30/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello all..
>
>Quick question for the lot..
>
>Does JRUN allow both CF and JSP pages to coexist? I've
>been searching through the JRUN docs, but can't really
>find any references.. a pointer or link would be quite
>helpful..
>
>Thanks!
>Pete

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