RE: MM Priorties? (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Vernon, We were seriously looking to go to CFMX in the next month or so...with all these issues being discussed here...dont think we can afford to sacrifice our development time... fighting CFMX issues The base of this Thread is some kind of acknowlegment of problems/issues by MM which would help us plan a safe transition into CFMX. We are running about 5000 transactions a day through CF Apps and we have a NEED to explore additional functions in CFMX, we were also looking to run CFMX for IBM Webshpere.. dont think any of the above is going to happen in near future with all these issues. Flash has never been a priority for us eventhough we have the software. Joe > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:30 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > Joe, > > I don't want to sound overly defensive, but, to respond to your points... > > The development teams are two different groups, so, addressing > both aren't mutually exclusive, and could very well happen > concurrently (but not necessarily). > > and... > > The subject was brought up here, so I thought it would be good to > reply here. > > Additionally, it looked like a great opportunity to emphasize why > it's important to use the feature request and bug report form, > even though Macromedia personnel watch this list. > > -Vern > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:24 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > > to dump CF! > > > > > > Vernon, > > Doesnt it sound logical to clean up bugs in CFMX before > > thinking of new > > features? > > Priorities...? CFMX Or Flash... dont think many ppl here > > are interested > > in Flash... > > > > Joe > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - > > About ready > > > to dump CF! > > > > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > it is > > > > impossible for one to build an application that using > > Flash Remoting > > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > > development team yet? > > > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > > > Vernon Viehe > > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > > Developer Relations > > > Macromedia, Inc. > > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
I ran into a couple of hurdles, yes...but I haven't rushed into porting old apps yet 'cause I follow the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" motto. I've been using cfmx extensively for new projects with great success minus those hurdles. I've also found my share of bugs and workarounds...and I get frustrated whenever Apache releases a new version but...that's life...I've voiced my opinion and that's that...hopefully they opt for a more flexible model. >From a product management perspective u gotta take into account the effects a 1.0 release can have on your timeline...Expect the unexpected...and if don't have the bandwidth to handle roadblocks...then wait till the product matures before jumping in head first and promising management the stars. This goes for any product. Best of luck, Stace -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! Sorry Stacy I am least bothered with Flash and whatever gimmicks it has to offer.. we all know by now.. alot of the community has problems with running CFMX in production...This is a very critical problem and has to be resolved ASAP... Dont you think so...? We were close to going to CFMX.. with all these different issues.. i dont think that will happen till next year... and u guys asking MM to do new Stuff? Joe > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:25 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > OK Joe please let's not start another one of these threads...and I think > you'd find many CF'ers interested in CFMX/Flash development. > > Nite > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:24 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Vernon, > Doesnt it sound logical to clean up bugs in CFMX before > thinking of new > features? > Priorities...? CFMX Or Flash... dont think many ppl here are > interested > in Flash... > > Joe > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > > to dump CF! > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > it is > > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > development team yet? > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > Vernon Viehe > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > Developer Relations > > Macromedia, Inc. > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Sorry Stacy I am least bothered with Flash and whatever gimmicks it has to offer.. we all know by now.. alot of the community has problems with running CFMX in production...This is a very critical problem and has to be resolved ASAP... Dont you think so...? We were close to going to CFMX.. with all these different issues.. i dont think that will happen till next year... and u guys asking MM to do new Stuff? Joe > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:25 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > OK Joe please let's not start another one of these threads...and I think > you'd find many CF'ers interested in CFMX/Flash development. > > Nite > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:24 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Vernon, > Doesnt it sound logical to clean up bugs in CFMX before > thinking of new > features? > Priorities...? CFMX Or Flash... dont think many ppl here are > interested > in Flash... > > Joe > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > > to dump CF! > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > it is > > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > development team yet? > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > Vernon Viehe > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > Developer Relations > > Macromedia, Inc. > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> Actually, you're wrong. I'm surprised you haven't figured out how to do > it since you seem to be able to figure out all sorts of 'clever' hacks > with our products! > > Yes, you *can* make this work but, yes, you do have to violate the > license agreement to make it happen. > I have figured out how to technically make it work, but as you say it would violate the license, so I can't really do it now can I? -Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
You wrote... > The response is "Flash Remoting as supplied with CFMX Enterprise is > designed to enable Flash / ColdFusion communication". It is not > intended to enable Flash / Java communication. And... > As for your assumptions above, I have no idea about (1) and I don't > know why you think a Java product would necessarily provide CFMX > functionality (how would it know about CF code?). I know how to make > (2) work but I don't think you can do it without violating the license. > As for (3), the license and documentation could itemize a lot of things > the product doesn't do but it would never be a complete list so it > would be pointless! And... > Again, it *was* a response - you just don't like that response. As for > the rationale, yes, I know exactly why you can't access Java code > through the CFMX Enterprise built-in Flash Remoting gateway. > Unfortunately (for you), I am not at liberty to divulge why that is. I wrote... > According to Sean, there is no way to use Flash Remoting with CF and > Java from the same application server. Seems to be accurate. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:18 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 20:45 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: > > According to Sean, there is no way to use Flash Remoting with CF and > > Java from the same application server. > > That is not what I said. You're just twisting people's words. > > "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my > telephone. > My wish has come true - I no longer know how to use my telephone." > -- Bjarne Stroustrup > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: MM priorities? LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Vernon, It would be much appreciated if MM starts making some priorities to fix bugs in CFMX and clean up the Application server..rather than thinking of new features...Atleast try keep your current customers. Joe > So that product management knows the scope/numbers of folks > wanting/needing remoting available to both CF and Java at the > same time, it's important for each person to file the request. > > I'll include this issue in the information I relay back > internally - but, it really helps make whatever I say have more > punch, if it's backed up by custom > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:59 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > Thanks Stace, > > Not to split hairs, but all feature requests and bugs are product > management issues in the big picture. =) > er filed feature requests (and > bug reports for those issues). > > I mean, they like my reports, but they like my reports even > better, when other data backs up what I'm reporting. =) > > Thanks (really!) > > -Vern > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:48 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > > to dump CF! > > > > > > Hi Vernon, > > > > Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If > > I'm understanding > > it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting > > available to both > > the CF environment and the underlying Java... > > > > I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) > > > > Stace > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - > > About ready to > > dump CF! > > > > Matt, > > > > > it is > > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > development team yet? > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > Vernon Viehe > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > Developer Relations > > Macromedia, Inc. > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Joe, I don't want to sound overly defensive, but, to respond to your points... The development teams are two different groups, so, addressing both aren't mutually exclusive, and could very well happen concurrently (but not necessarily). and... The subject was brought up here, so I thought it would be good to reply here. Additionally, it looked like a great opportunity to emphasize why it's important to use the feature request and bug report form, even though Macromedia personnel watch this list. -Vern > -Original Message- > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:24 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > Vernon, > Doesnt it sound logical to clean up bugs in CFMX before > thinking of new > features? > Priorities...? CFMX Or Flash... dont think many ppl here > are interested > in Flash... > > Joe > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - > About ready > > to dump CF! > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > it is > > > impossible for one to build an application that using > Flash Remoting > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > development team yet? > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > Vernon Viehe > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > Developer Relations > > Macromedia, Inc. > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Without getting too deep into the details, Flash Remoting is implemented with an EAR that captures requests with a specific servlet mapping. Since you can only have one of these servlet mappings per container, you can only use one Flash Remoting EAR per container. If you use the EAR provided with CFMX then you can't use Flash Remoting with Java. If you use the EAR provided with JRun 4 or Flash Remoting for J2EE you would need to overwrite the EAR supplied with CFMX. Changing/overwriting any of the supplied Java classes is a violation of the license agreement and thus can't be done. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:17 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Guess my question wasn't clear. Two scenarios we were discussing. > > 1) Remoting on CFMX on J2EE. Accessing CF and underlying java (Can't do) > 2) Remoting on CFMX on J2EE + Remoting for Java installed on same box. > (offering two flash gateways) > > My question was in regards to scenario 2. I can't see how it can be > disabled > for the Remoting for Java unless it's JRun specific. > > Anyway thanks for your input. Considering I can not meet your intellectual > level, continuing this discussion is futile! > > Cheers > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:06 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > I don't know how to say it more clearly. You cannot access Java classes > from Flash Remoting using CFMX. It doesn't matter what version of CFMX > you run or what J2EE server you run it on. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:01 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to > > dump CF! > > > > Oh. Sorry my bad. That's not cool. Is this JRun specific or any J2EE > app > > server? > > > > Stace > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:55 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to > > dump CF! > > > > Again, running CFMX on J2EE does not allow you to access Java classes > > using Flash Remoting even if you run it on top of JRun 4, which does > > provide access to Java classes using Flash Remoting. > > > > To speak to Vern's point, there is no need to put in a feature request > > as the feature already exists. Unfortunately, the feature has been > > intentionally crippled. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:48 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About > ready > > to > > > dump CF! > > > > > > Hi Vernon, > > > > > > Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If I'm > > > understanding > > > it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting available to > > both > > > the CF environment and the underlying Java... > > > > > > I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) > > > > > > Stace > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About > ready > > to > > > dump CF! > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > it is > > > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash > Remoting > > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > > development team yet? > > > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > > > Vernon Viehe > > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > > Developer Relations > > > Macromedia, Inc. > > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bki
Re: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 20:44 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: > In my book, an answer is > supposed to be a solution to a problem; not "wibble". Yeah? Well, not everyone reads your book... > * Flash Remoting doesn't work... Blah, blah, blah. OK, now you're really just being annoying. I've defended you against a lot of people but I've had enough now. > Yet it is > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > with both CF and Java. Actually, you're wrong. I'm surprised you haven't figured out how to do it since you seem to be able to figure out all sorts of 'clever' hacks with our products! Yes, you *can* make this work but, yes, you do have to violate the license agreement to make it happen. As Vern said, submit a feature request (thanx Stacy!). If enough people want it... Sean (who has had quite enough of all the anti-MM flames today and is exercising his leeway to be less than politic in response). ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
OK Joe please let's not start another one of these threads...and I think you'd find many CF'ers interested in CFMX/Flash development. Nite Stace -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! Vernon, Doesnt it sound logical to clean up bugs in CFMX before thinking of new features? Priorities...? CFMX Or Flash... dont think many ppl here are interested in Flash... Joe > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > Matt, > > > it is > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > with both CF and Java. > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > development team yet? > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > Vernon Viehe > ColdFusion Community Manager > Developer Relations > Macromedia, Inc. > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Vernon, Doesnt it sound logical to clean up bugs in CFMX before thinking of new features? Priorities...? CFMX Or Flash... dont think many ppl here are interested in Flash... Joe > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > Matt, > > > it is > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > with both CF and Java. > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > development team yet? > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > Vernon Viehe > ColdFusion Community Manager > Developer Relations > Macromedia, Inc. > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 20:45 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: > According to Sean, there is no way to use Flash Remoting with CF and > Java from the same application server. That is not what I said. You're just twisting people's words. "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true - I no longer know how to use my telephone." -- Bjarne Stroustrup ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Guess my question wasn't clear. Two scenarios we were discussing. 1) Remoting on CFMX on J2EE. Accessing CF and underlying java (Can't do) 2) Remoting on CFMX on J2EE + Remoting for Java installed on same box. (offering two flash gateways) My question was in regards to scenario 2. I can't see how it can be disabled for the Remoting for Java unless it's JRun specific. Anyway thanks for your input. Considering I can not meet your intellectual level, continuing this discussion is futile! Cheers -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! I don't know how to say it more clearly. You cannot access Java classes from Flash Remoting using CFMX. It doesn't matter what version of CFMX you run or what J2EE server you run it on. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:01 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Oh. Sorry my bad. That's not cool. Is this JRun specific or any J2EE app > server? > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:55 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Again, running CFMX on J2EE does not allow you to access Java classes > using Flash Remoting even if you run it on top of JRun 4, which does > provide access to Java classes using Flash Remoting. > > To speak to Vern's point, there is no need to put in a feature request > as the feature already exists. Unfortunately, the feature has been > intentionally crippled. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:48 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to > > dump CF! > > > > Hi Vernon, > > > > Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If I'm > > understanding > > it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting available to > both > > the CF environment and the underlying Java... > > > > I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) > > > > Stace > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to > > dump CF! > > > > Matt, > > > > > it is > > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > development team yet? > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > Vernon Viehe > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > Developer Relations > > Macromedia, Inc. > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
I don't know how to say it more clearly. You cannot access Java classes from Flash Remoting using CFMX. It doesn't matter what version of CFMX you run or what J2EE server you run it on. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:01 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Oh. Sorry my bad. That's not cool. Is this JRun specific or any J2EE app > server? > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:55 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Again, running CFMX on J2EE does not allow you to access Java classes > using Flash Remoting even if you run it on top of JRun 4, which does > provide access to Java classes using Flash Remoting. > > To speak to Vern's point, there is no need to put in a feature request > as the feature already exists. Unfortunately, the feature has been > intentionally crippled. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:48 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to > > dump CF! > > > > Hi Vernon, > > > > Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If I'm > > understanding > > it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting available to > both > > the CF environment and the underlying Java... > > > > I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) > > > > Stace > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to > > dump CF! > > > > Matt, > > > > > it is > > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > > with both CF and Java. > > > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > > development team yet? > > > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > > > Vernon Viehe > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > Developer Relations > > Macromedia, Inc. > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > > Architecting a New Internet Experience > > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: convert first letter of words in a string to upper
To wit: CapFirst: http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=9 CapFirstTitle: http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=116 -Original Message- From: Jared Clinton To: CF-Talk Sent: 10/8/02 7:32 PM Subject: RE: convert first letter of words in a string to upper Chris, Have a look at www.cflib.org It has heaps of cool things, and I'm quite sure also what you are looking for. Jared Clinton. NEC Australia. -Original Message- From: Chris Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: convert first letter of words in a string to upper I need a function to convert first letter of words in a string to upper case. -- Chris Edwards Web Application Developer Outer Banks Internet, Inc. 252-441-6698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.OuterBanksInternet.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Done. -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! Matt, Just because something may be intentional doesn't mean it's not a valid request. Please see my other note regarding the importance of "officially" putting in your $.02 (or maybe $.04 in your case). Thanks! -Vern > To speak to Vern's point, there is no need to put in a feature request > as the feature already exists. Unfortunately, the feature has been > intentionally crippled. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Oh. Sorry my bad. That's not cool. Is this JRun specific or any J2EE app server? Stace -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! Again, running CFMX on J2EE does not allow you to access Java classes using Flash Remoting even if you run it on top of JRun 4, which does provide access to Java classes using Flash Remoting. To speak to Vern's point, there is no need to put in a feature request as the feature already exists. Unfortunately, the feature has been intentionally crippled. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:48 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Hi Vernon, > > Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If I'm > understanding > it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting available to both > the CF environment and the underlying Java... > > I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Matt, > > > it is > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > with both CF and Java. > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > development team yet? > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > Vernon Viehe > ColdFusion Community Manager > Developer Relations > Macromedia, Inc. > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Matt, Just because something may be intentional doesn't mean it's not a valid request. Please see my other note regarding the importance of "officially" putting in your $.02 (or maybe $.04 in your case). Thanks! -Vern > To speak to Vern's point, there is no need to put in a feature request > as the feature already exists. Unfortunately, the feature has been > intentionally crippled. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Thanks Stace, Not to split hairs, but all feature requests and bugs are product management issues in the big picture. =) So that product management knows the scope/numbers of folks wanting/needing remoting available to both CF and Java at the same time, it's important for each person to file the request. I'll include this issue in the information I relay back internally - but, it really helps make whatever I say have more punch, if it's backed up by customer filed feature requests (and bug reports for those issues). I mean, they like my reports, but they like my reports even better, when other data backs up what I'm reporting. =) Thanks (really!) -Vern > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:48 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF! > > > Hi Vernon, > > Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If > I'm understanding > it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting > available to both > the CF environment and the underlying Java... > > I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - > About ready to > dump CF! > > Matt, > > > it is > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > with both CF and Java. > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > development team yet? > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > Vernon Viehe > ColdFusion Community Manager > Developer Relations > Macromedia, Inc. > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Again, running CFMX on J2EE does not allow you to access Java classes using Flash Remoting even if you run it on top of JRun 4, which does provide access to Java classes using Flash Remoting. To speak to Vern's point, there is no need to put in a feature request as the feature already exists. Unfortunately, the feature has been intentionally crippled. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:48 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Hi Vernon, > > Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If I'm > understanding > it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting available to both > the CF environment and the underlying Java... > > I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > Matt, > > > it is > > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > > with both CF and Java. > > This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our > development team yet? > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 > > Vernon Viehe > ColdFusion Community Manager > Developer Relations > Macromedia, Inc. > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Hi Vernon, Sounds like more of a Product Management issue though...If I'm understanding it correctly, running CFMX on J2EE should make Remoting available to both the CF environment and the underlying Java... I'll toss that in the request form anyhow. :-) Stace -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! Matt, > it is > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > with both CF and Java. This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our development team yet? http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Matt, > it is > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > with both CF and Java. This sounds like a great feature request, have you sent it to our development team yet? http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform?6213=23 Vernon Viehe ColdFusion Community Manager Developer Relations Macromedia, Inc. Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: delete session vars
actually, if i'm not mistaken, you don't need the 'bogus variable' anymore. just should do it. charlie - Original Message - From: "Scott Weikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: Re: delete session vars > > > where 'key' is the session variable in question. > > You can do this to clear out your session as a whole: > > > > > > > > > > At 02:38 PM 10/8/2002 -0600, you wrote: > >I am new to session vars so this is probably an easy answer, How do I delete > >a session var from existence? I want to be able to make > >paramterexstits(session.var) return a false after the possibility of it > >being set to something. > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: OT: What's the diff?
Remoting is available when you install CFMX. Only the Flashcom is an add-on. Stace -Original Message- From: Drew Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: What's the diff? Thank you that is ever so helpful! So, If I will have CFMX and Flash Communication Server loaded on the web server in question... Will I still need to add the Flash Remoting Server to the mix too? Feel free to contact me offline if this is too far OT here. Thanks bunches! -Drew Harris On 10/8/02 10:26 PM, "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 17:21 US/Pacific, Drew Harris wrote: >> So, what is the difference between Flash Communication Server and Flash >> Remoting Server? > > Flash Communication Server is a server (like a web server or an > application server) that allows multiple Flash clients to shared > objects and exchange text, images, video - for example you could write > a multi-user video-conferencing application with it. > > Flash Remoting is technology that allows a Flash client to communicate > 1-to-1 with either a ColdFusion server (built-in to CFMX), a JRun 4 > server (built-in to JRun 4), other J2EE servers (Flash Remoting for > J2EE) or a .NET server (Flash Remoting for .NET). > >> I have a project for a client coming up where the front end/UI needs >> to be >> done in Flash... and a "desktop" version of the app (data itself) >> needs to >> sych with the core web system upon request when it comes back "online". > > Sounds like Flash MX, Flash Remoting (of some kind) and a server > technology (CFMX gives you Flash Remoting for CFMX). > >> But, in the same breath the client is interested in future modules that >> allow utilize online communications, such as chat, streaming media, >> audio >> conferencing and even "application remote control" or the "multi-user >> cursors" that come as components of Flash Communication Server. > > Yes, that additional functionality would require the Flash > Communication Server (as well as CFMX w/Flash Remoting). > > I suggest you read Ben Forta's book "Reality ColdFusion MX : Macromedia > Flash MX Integration". > > An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: OT: What's the diff?
Thank you that is ever so helpful! So, If I will have CFMX and Flash Communication Server loaded on the web server in question... Will I still need to add the Flash Remoting Server to the mix too? Feel free to contact me offline if this is too far OT here. Thanks bunches! -Drew Harris On 10/8/02 10:26 PM, "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 17:21 US/Pacific, Drew Harris wrote: >> So, what is the difference between Flash Communication Server and Flash >> Remoting Server? > > Flash Communication Server is a server (like a web server or an > application server) that allows multiple Flash clients to shared > objects and exchange text, images, video - for example you could write > a multi-user video-conferencing application with it. > > Flash Remoting is technology that allows a Flash client to communicate > 1-to-1 with either a ColdFusion server (built-in to CFMX), a JRun 4 > server (built-in to JRun 4), other J2EE servers (Flash Remoting for > J2EE) or a .NET server (Flash Remoting for .NET). > >> I have a project for a client coming up where the front end/UI needs >> to be >> done in Flash... and a "desktop" version of the app (data itself) >> needs to >> sych with the core web system upon request when it comes back "online". > > Sounds like Flash MX, Flash Remoting (of some kind) and a server > technology (CFMX gives you Flash Remoting for CFMX). > >> But, in the same breath the client is interested in future modules that >> allow utilize online communications, such as chat, streaming media, >> audio >> conferencing and even "application remote control" or the "multi-user >> cursors" that come as components of Flash Communication Server. > > Yes, that additional functionality would require the Flash > Communication Server (as well as CFMX w/Flash Remoting). > > I suggest you read Ben Forta's book "Reality ColdFusion MX : Macromedia > Flash MX Integration". > > An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
It appears to break the CFMX license to install Flash Remoting for J2EE on top of CFMX. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > While I haven't used Remoting for Java to any great extent. Could you not > operate two flash gateways? (CFMX and Java) > > Although even if it is possible it's kind of ridiculous from a cost > perspective. If you buy CFMX for J2EE you should be able to remote to both > CFMX and Java objects. Considering it's priced per processor I don't see > that being much of a stretch for MM's product offering. > > Stace > > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:45 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > > It *is* an answer. Saying "wibble" would be an answer. I never claimed > > it was a helpful answer! > > > Well if that's the best you can do never mind. Why even waste anyone's > time with responses that aren't helpful? In my book, an answer is > supposed to be a solution to a problem; not "wibble". > > > As for your assumptions above, I have no idea about (1) and I don't > > know why you think a Java product would necessarily provide CFMX > > functionality (how would it know about CF code?). I know how to make > > (2) work but I don't think you can do it without violating the > license. > > As for (3), the license and documentation could itemize a lot of > things > > the product doesn't do but it would never be a complete list so it > > would be pointless! > > > Just to recap here... > > * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX Enterprise > * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX J2EE > * Flash Remoting doesn't work with CF in JRun > * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX Enterprise with Flash > Remoting J2EE > * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX J2EE with Flash Remoting > J2EE > * Flash Remoting doesn't work with CF in Flash Remoting J2EE > > Macromedia is pushing the whole idea of Rich Internet Applications, > which are supposed to be built using Flash Remoting. Yet it is > impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting > with both CF and Java. > > > Again, it *was* a response - you just don't like that response. As for > > the rationale, yes, I know exactly why you can't access Java code > > through the CFMX Enterprise built-in Flash Remoting gateway. > > Unfortunately (for you), I am not at liberty to divulge why that is. > > > Well I'm glad you figured out the rational since you didn't know it last > time we talked. Maybe one day Macromedia will actual respond with what > it is. > > -Matt > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
While I haven't used Remoting for Java to any great extent. Could you not operate two flash gateways? (CFMX and Java) Although even if it is possible it's kind of ridiculous from a cost perspective. If you buy CFMX for J2EE you should be able to remote to both CFMX and Java objects. Considering it's priced per processor I don't see that being much of a stretch for MM's product offering. Stace -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! > It *is* an answer. Saying "wibble" would be an answer. I never claimed > it was a helpful answer! > Well if that's the best you can do never mind. Why even waste anyone's time with responses that aren't helpful? In my book, an answer is supposed to be a solution to a problem; not "wibble". > As for your assumptions above, I have no idea about (1) and I don't > know why you think a Java product would necessarily provide CFMX > functionality (how would it know about CF code?). I know how to make > (2) work but I don't think you can do it without violating the license. > As for (3), the license and documentation could itemize a lot of things > the product doesn't do but it would never be a complete list so it > would be pointless! > Just to recap here... * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX Enterprise * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX J2EE * Flash Remoting doesn't work with CF in JRun * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX Enterprise with Flash Remoting J2EE * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX J2EE with Flash Remoting J2EE * Flash Remoting doesn't work with CF in Flash Remoting J2EE Macromedia is pushing the whole idea of Rich Internet Applications, which are supposed to be built using Flash Remoting. Yet it is impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting with both CF and Java. > Again, it *was* a response - you just don't like that response. As for > the rationale, yes, I know exactly why you can't access Java code > through the CFMX Enterprise built-in Flash Remoting gateway. > Unfortunately (for you), I am not at liberty to divulge why that is. > Well I'm glad you figured out the rational since you didn't know it last time we talked. Maybe one day Macromedia will actual respond with what it is. -Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> It *is* an answer. Saying "wibble" would be an answer. I never claimed > it was a helpful answer! > Well if that's the best you can do never mind. Why even waste anyone's time with responses that aren't helpful? In my book, an answer is supposed to be a solution to a problem; not "wibble". > As for your assumptions above, I have no idea about (1) and I don't > know why you think a Java product would necessarily provide CFMX > functionality (how would it know about CF code?). I know how to make > (2) work but I don't think you can do it without violating the license. > As for (3), the license and documentation could itemize a lot of things > the product doesn't do but it would never be a complete list so it > would be pointless! > Just to recap here... * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX Enterprise * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX J2EE * Flash Remoting doesn't work with CF in JRun * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX Enterprise with Flash Remoting J2EE * Flash Remoting doesn't work with Java in CFMX J2EE with Flash Remoting J2EE * Flash Remoting doesn't work with CF in Flash Remoting J2EE Macromedia is pushing the whole idea of Rich Internet Applications, which are supposed to be built using Flash Remoting. Yet it is impossible for one to build an application that using Flash Remoting with both CF and Java. > Again, it *was* a response - you just don't like that response. As for > the rationale, yes, I know exactly why you can't access Java code > through the CFMX Enterprise built-in Flash Remoting gateway. > Unfortunately (for you), I am not at liberty to divulge why that is. > Well I'm glad you figured out the rational since you didn't know it last time we talked. Maybe one day Macromedia will actual respond with what it is. -Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
According to Sean, there is no way to use Flash Remoting with CF and Java from the same application server. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:15 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > If you have CFMX for J2EE can you remote directly to Java objects or do > you > need a second flash gateway? (Having to also purchase Flash remoting for > Java) > > Sorry if this was already answered but it's a long thread! > > Stace > > -Original Message- > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:56 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to > dump CF! > > On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 15:09 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: > > And as I responded in IM, that isn't answer. Why? > > It *is* an answer. Saying "wibble" would be an answer. I never claimed > it was a helpful answer! > > > 1. If that was true I could buy Flash Remoting for J2EE and use it with > > CFMX > > 2. If that was true then it would work with CFMX for J2EE sitting on > > top > > of JRun 4 > > 3. If that was true then the license and the documentation would > > explicitly say it > > Hang on, you ask about CFMX *ENTERPRISE* and then start making comments > about different products! Let's stick to the original question and my > answer is absolutely correct. > > As for your assumptions above, I have no idea about (1) and I don't > know why you think a Java product would necessarily provide CFMX > functionality (how would it know about CF code?). I know how to make > (2) work but I don't think you can do it without violating the license. > As for (3), the license and documentation could itemize a lot of things > the product doesn't do but it would never be a complete list so it > would be pointless! > > > It wasn't a response; it was a copout since you don't even know the > > rational behind it yourself. > > Again, it *was* a response - you just don't like that response. As for > the rationale, yes, I know exactly why you can't access Java code > through the CFMX Enterprise built-in Flash Remoting gateway. > Unfortunately (for you), I am not at liberty to divulge why that is. > > An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida > Architecting a New Internet Experience > Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Reading MSSQL 2000 FOR XML AUTO data
Sam, hey - that works? Very cool. How come it doesn't choke on the UUID as a structure key name? -mk -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Reading MSSQL 2000 FOR XML AUTO data Tyler, As the previous poster mentioned, because the column name is invalid it can be difficult at first to access the data. However, there is a very simple work-around. Use CF's structure notation. When doing this, you must use the record number to identify the record in your loop, as follows: SELECT * FROM BOOKS FOR XML AUTO #xmlString# This works fine for me in CF5 and CFMX. A couple of notes: a) Since there is always just one column, you can use ColumnList by itself without a ListGetAt or ListFirst or anything. b) The column name is actually static--it's not supposed to ever change from "XML_F52E2B61-18A1-11D1-B105-00805F49916B". That said, I would personally always use ColumnList, just in case MS changes their mind, even though we all know they would never do that. :-) c) Remember the XML returned from MSSQL is not a valid XML document in an of itself--it's just an XML fragment. It needs a root element to make it valid. HTH, Sam Samuel R. Neff Senior Software Engineer B-Line Express Advanced ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:47:20 -0400 From: "Tyler Clendenin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Reading MSSQL 2000 FOR XML AUTO data Message-ID: <009401c26f03$841244d0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When i run a query in query manager i get a recordset with the first row being the XML data in the column of XM_[some uuid]. the problem is that when i try to obtain this information in cold fusion there are no rows returned. anyone know this problem? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Reading MSSQL 2000 FOR XML AUTO data
Tyler, As the previous poster mentioned, because the column name is invalid it can be difficult at first to access the data. However, there is a very simple work-around. Use CF's structure notation. When doing this, you must use the record number to identify the record in your loop, as follows: SELECT * FROM BOOKS FOR XML AUTO #xmlString# This works fine for me in CF5 and CFMX. A couple of notes: a) Since there is always just one column, you can use ColumnList by itself without a ListGetAt or ListFirst or anything. b) The column name is actually static--it's not supposed to ever change from "XML_F52E2B61-18A1-11D1-B105-00805F49916B". That said, I would personally always use ColumnList, just in case MS changes their mind, even though we all know they would never do that. :-) c) Remember the XML returned from MSSQL is not a valid XML document in an of itself--it's just an XML fragment. It needs a root element to make it valid. HTH, Sam Samuel R. Neff Senior Software Engineer B-Line Express Advanced ColdFusion 5.0 Certified Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:47:20 -0400 From: "Tyler Clendenin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Reading MSSQL 2000 FOR XML AUTO data Message-ID: <009401c26f03$841244d0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> When i run a query in query manager i get a recordset with the first row being the XML data in the column of XM_[some uuid]. the problem is that when i try to obtain this information in cold fusion there are no rows returned. anyone know this problem? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: OT: What's the diff?
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 17:21 US/Pacific, Drew Harris wrote: > So, what is the difference between Flash Communication Server and Flash > Remoting Server? Flash Communication Server is a server (like a web server or an application server) that allows multiple Flash clients to shared objects and exchange text, images, video - for example you could write a multi-user video-conferencing application with it. Flash Remoting is technology that allows a Flash client to communicate 1-to-1 with either a ColdFusion server (built-in to CFMX), a JRun 4 server (built-in to JRun 4), other J2EE servers (Flash Remoting for J2EE) or a .NET server (Flash Remoting for .NET). > I have a project for a client coming up where the front end/UI needs > to be > done in Flash... and a "desktop" version of the app (data itself) > needs to > sych with the core web system upon request when it comes back "online". Sounds like Flash MX, Flash Remoting (of some kind) and a server technology (CFMX gives you Flash Remoting for CFMX). > But, in the same breath the client is interested in future modules that > allow utilize online communications, such as chat, streaming media, > audio > conferencing and even "application remote control" or the "multi-user > cursors" that come as components of Flash Communication Server. Yes, that additional functionality would require the Flash Communication Server (as well as CFMX w/Flash Remoting). I suggest you read Ben Forta's book "Reality ColdFusion MX : Macromedia Flash MX Integration". An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Get SQL Info
Ben Forta posted this a while back. Execution time is easy, just use CFQUERY.ExecutionTime. Getting the SQL statement is harder, but, if you are using CFMX and have debugging turned on, here is a function that will do it: SELECT body FROM events WHERE type='SqlQuery' AND name='#queryname#' -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> -Original Message- >> From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:57 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Get SQL Info >> >> >> Is there a way to get SQL Info similar to what is displayed in debugging >> output? Like something similar to being able to grab all session >> variables or form variables. Such as: >> >> >> #sql[i]# >> >> >> Only whatever the value would be. I can't seem to get this one. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
If you have CFMX for J2EE can you remote directly to Java objects or do you need a second flash gateway? (Having to also purchase Flash remoting for Java) Sorry if this was already answered but it's a long thread! Stace -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 15:09 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: > And as I responded in IM, that isn't answer. Why? It *is* an answer. Saying "wibble" would be an answer. I never claimed it was a helpful answer! > 1. If that was true I could buy Flash Remoting for J2EE and use it with > CFMX > 2. If that was true then it would work with CFMX for J2EE sitting on > top > of JRun 4 > 3. If that was true then the license and the documentation would > explicitly say it Hang on, you ask about CFMX *ENTERPRISE* and then start making comments about different products! Let's stick to the original question and my answer is absolutely correct. As for your assumptions above, I have no idea about (1) and I don't know why you think a Java product would necessarily provide CFMX functionality (how would it know about CF code?). I know how to make (2) work but I don't think you can do it without violating the license. As for (3), the license and documentation could itemize a lot of things the product doesn't do but it would never be a complete list so it would be pointless! > It wasn't a response; it was a copout since you don't even know the > rational behind it yourself. Again, it *was* a response - you just don't like that response. As for the rationale, yes, I know exactly why you can't access Java code through the CFMX Enterprise built-in Flash Remoting gateway. Unfortunately (for you), I am not at liberty to divulge why that is. An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Book Review: CFMX and Flash Integration - B.Forta and D.Baldwin & co.
Think this book has been discussed already on the list but...well I'm bored so I figured I give a little review in hopes that'll give a good notion as to what to expect. Overall. Excellent book. Well written and in an interestingly new format...hence the "reality" title. In a nutshell the book takes a handful of projects and runs through them as a "real world" scenario. From basic project planning and management to the design and coding. What this book is not! Anyone looking for a hardcore reference for either CFMX and/or FlashMX...this is not the book. While it does dip into specifics on occasion, the book assumes a certain skill level...guess that's why it says intermediate to advanced on the back. Who should buy it? CF developers looking to extend their skillset into the realm of rich clients. In my opinion, there are a few prerequisites though before diving into this book. (to avoid flash culture shock). A) Learn how to get around the Flash environment. Best place to start are the tutorials...you don't need to be an expert but a few weeks of tinkering with small projects should do the trick. B) Go through all the Flash MX / CF integration examples on DesDev FIRST. They're all straight forward and give you the required basics on the whole CF/Flash thing. You may still get a little lost on the Actionscript portion but for the most part it's approachable for a CF'er...All in all a Flash MX basics book would be a great primer. In conclusion, the format of the book is great because it provides solutions to a whack of obstacles you're most likely to run into when making your first rich client app...and more importantly how to tie them together. My only criticism is that I think it would have been nice to include a coding task-list on each chapter for easy reference. (e.g. Chapter 1: Covers authentication, form validation, custom skin component etc..)...Not the end of the world but I've been spoiled since the days of BF's classic Appendices. As well as some deeper detail on the more advanced "phase II" features mentioned after each project...maybe this is to make room for a second edition, who knows! Highly recommend - Next up CFMX and J2EE! Cheers, Stace AVIS IMPORTANT: --- Les informations contenues dans le present document et ses pieces jointes sont strictement confidentielles et reservees a l'usage de la (des) personne(s) a qui il est adresse. Si vous n'etes pas le destinataire, soyez avise que toute divulgation, distribution, copie, ou autre utilisation de ces informations est strictement prohibee. Si vous avez recu ce document par erreur, veuillez s'il vous plait communiquer immediatement avec l'expediteur et detruire ce document sans en faire de copie sous quelque forme. WARNING: --- The information contained in this document and attachments is confidential and intended only for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any other use of the information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this document and attachments without making any copy of any kind. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 15:09 US/Pacific, Matt Liotta wrote: > And as I responded in IM, that isn't answer. Why? It *is* an answer. Saying "wibble" would be an answer. I never claimed it was a helpful answer! > 1. If that was true I could buy Flash Remoting for J2EE and use it with > CFMX > 2. If that was true then it would work with CFMX for J2EE sitting on > top > of JRun 4 > 3. If that was true then the license and the documentation would > explicitly say it Hang on, you ask about CFMX *ENTERPRISE* and then start making comments about different products! Let's stick to the original question and my answer is absolutely correct. As for your assumptions above, I have no idea about (1) and I don't know why you think a Java product would necessarily provide CFMX functionality (how would it know about CF code?). I know how to make (2) work but I don't think you can do it without violating the license. As for (3), the license and documentation could itemize a lot of things the product doesn't do but it would never be a complete list so it would be pointless! > It wasn't a response; it was a copout since you don't even know the > rational behind it yourself. Again, it *was* a response - you just don't like that response. As for the rationale, yes, I know exactly why you can't access Java code through the CFMX Enterprise built-in Flash Remoting gateway. Unfortunately (for you), I am not at liberty to divulge why that is. An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: sql server connectivity error
Try using "localhost" without quotes as the server. In CF5, you could use (local) but this has changed in CFMX. Cedric Villat Lead Designer http://www.Cornfeed.Com Creators of CFTicket - A multipurpose Email Management and Trouble Ticket application. > - Original Message - > From: "JLH All Turbo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:24 PM > Subject: sql server connectivity error > > > Connection verification failed for data source: punkhardcore > []java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting > to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other > connectivity info. > The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in > JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, password, > URL, and other connectivity info. > > I'm getting that error when verifying a connetion through the CFMX dsn > creator. I also get it when I try to run any CFMX cfm pages that use that > dsn. > > YET when I try connecting and verifying through Win2k's ODBC set up.. it > works FINE. No problems... any idea what might cause that error? > > I am logging in with the correct l/p.. > > Jacob. > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: COLLATE SQL 7
The whole thing. The syntax here is created for SQL 2000 - not SQL 7.0. SQL 7.0 doesn't use collations. -mk -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: COLLATE SQL 7 I have the following SQL Create statement ... MS SQL 7 doesn't like the collate, what should I remove just the collate statement or the whole SQL_Latin1 ect... CREATE TABLE [#form.dbOwner#].[#form.dbPrefix#admin_security] ( [id] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL , [userid] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL , [security] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL ) ON [PRIMARY] Thanks Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Paul, I wouldn't call it a "tip" or a "Trick" either - as it's simply standard use of T-sql. -mk -Original Message- From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! > - The multiple SQL statements issue is a data source setup issue (use > ODBC Socket instead of Microsoft SQL Driver or whatever it's called). > It just happened to work with a particular CF5 driver but it wasn't actually the ability to stuff multiple t-sql into one cfquery's been around since i can remember, so its not particularly related to a cf5 driver. i would call this sort of ingrained in cf developer's psyche. it actually still works for the most part. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/2545 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: 3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 18:05 US/Pacific, S. Isaac Dealey wrote: > I thought all the db drivers were 3rd party ... Has Allaire / MM > actually > developed db drivers? Er, no, I just meant that the JDBC drivers about which people are complaining were not written by us... which means that we are reliant on 3rd party vendors fixing them or making other drivers available. S ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Reading MSSQL 2000 FOR XML AUTO data
Tyler, I've done this successfully in CF 5 (not tried it in CFMX yet). There's a simple trick to it. The problem is that the column name (a uuid) has characters that are invalid as a CF variable. You can't output them without throwing an error. For example, an XML Auto query might return: XM_3jfa-343-bbb as the name of the column. CF will choke on the dashes in the variable name. However, you CAN determine the name of the column using the "queryname.columnname" syntax. You can aslo serialize the query into WDDX (don't ask me why THAT works) - so here's my kludgy work-around example: ..run the query SELECT * FROM myTable FOR XML AUTO ... only one column is returned so this statement gives you the offending string ...Serialize the data inot a WDDX string Replace the offending string with a valid CF variable name that represents the column of data. I hope this helps - let me know if it's not clear. P.S. - If you are having trouble in this with CFMX contact me off list and I'll help you work through it. There are also some other tricks for setting up that return XML to be structured in a readable or logical way. -mark -Original Message- From: Tyler Clendenin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Reading MSSQL 2000 FOR XML AUTO data When i run a query in query manager i get a recordset with the first row being the XML data in the column of XM_[some uuid]. the problem is that when i try to obtain this information in cold fusion there are no rows returned. anyone know this problem? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Can we help? (was RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
I personally think.. alot of the problems are due to making CFMX very backward compatible with older versions of CF. Why did MM claim CFMX backward compatible? Why not .NET Strategy? Again i think its the responsibility of developers to test their code on a totally different product(CFMX)..Load Test..etc. before going into production. Well MM should have already done this... and documented rules of new coding in RED rather than have developers waste time fighting issues. Hopefully we will see some better standards from MM. Joe > -Original Message- > From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:49 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Can we help? (was RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready > to dump CF!) > > > On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 10:55 US/Pacific, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I personally believe that this is the root of nearly every problem at > > Macromedia right now. Internally and externally. Internally, probably > > mostly due to the fragmented communities of employees in the east/west > > coast > > You'd probably be amazed at how much communication goes on here. In > fact, folks from both coasts have been discussing these threads > internally most of the day. > > > Externally, the MM.com website is disorganized, > > hard to navigate, and riddled with inconsistencies. > > It's no secret that we're redesigning the site to make it more > user-focused and task-focused in order to address these problems. > Again, we talk to users, we take notes, we figure out how to improve > things. Your feedback is good. > > > As has also been > > brought up, a definite wall is up between developers and staff if you > > try to > > go through "normal" channels for support. > > Well, you can't really expect a few dozen developers to directly > support a few hundred thousand CF programmers! :) > > > As I've said on > > other lists, the wishlist is not an effective bug submission channel. > > But it is the only *official* channel right now. > > > I really love ColdFusion, I want to help fix things. > > I think that, deep down, almost everyone here feels the same - no > matter what the tone of the 'flames' here might suggest... > > > I know people at Macromedia are > > listening because they are here on this (and other) lists, but are > > they the > > right people? Are they the people who can make real changes? > > Er, yes, I think so. We're certainly trying to resolve the issues that > are coming up so that the community's perception of Macromedia will > improve. > > > Vernon, Sean, Jesse, Mike - What else can we developers do to fix > > things? > > Vern will probably cringe but... Y'all could stop bashing MM and focus > on helping us help you resolve problems. Let's stop the whole "CF sux! > Macromedia sux! I'm going to .NET if you don't solve my problems > *immediately*!" thing. I know it makes people feel better to vent a bit > but... really... these recent threads are a bit much! > > Yes, there are clearly issues that need attention and some of the ones > we're hearing about through the forums (but not through the official > channels, I would note!) are hard to track down, hard to reproduce and > hard to debug. > > People seem to have accepted as fact - and best practice - that you > have to zealously lock all shared scope variable access in CF5 and > earlier even though that was really to work around bugs in the server > itself. Hopefully, people will find a similar acceptance for the new > best practices we may all have to adopt for this new release of > ColdFusion. And remember that best practices often change with each > language / product version - try to think back to some of the earlier > CF upgrades! > > "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my > telephone. > My wish has come true - I no longer know how to use my telephone." > -- Bjarne Stroustrup > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Kinda OT: IIS Perf Counter - Separate Webs?
Lee - are you using host header and virtuals? I would guess that the counters only work for sites that have separate ip addresses. I don't know this for a fact however. A quick search on MSDN would verify. I have used the instance counters successfully before. -mk -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Kinda OT: IIS Perf Counter - Separate Webs? Nope.. Doesn't work. Even if you select a "site", the counter is identical to the "_total" instance. Each time.. Trust me. :) | -Original Message- | From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:29 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: Kinda OT: IIS Perf Counter - Separate Webs? | | | If you are using perfmon (on win2k or nt) there are | "instance" counters in the GUI - to the left. You should see | a top indicator that says "_total" and sub indicators - one | for each site. Select the "site" you want to check instead | of "_total" and you will see the subset of counter numbers. | | -mk | | -Original Message- | From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:56 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Kinda OT: IIS Perf Counter - Separate Webs? | | | Kinda relating to the fact that we're monitoring this server | that keeps dying... | | Has anyone figured out how to truly separate web sites in the | performance counters, so that current connections selected | for one site doesn't really show ALL the connections for the | entire box? (i.e., see each counter for each site | separately.. Like the functionality implies)? | | Just a shot in the dark... | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Problems with CFMX?
Rob, I get it that cfinclude is a pointer to other files - but I can't see that this is not relevant to CFMX (is it?) since it compiles the code into Java byte code. Does each file become a separate class file? - or does the whole request get compiled into a single class file? I'm having trouble reconciling what I know about how CFMX works internally with this idea. What if - for example - I did this: ... Inside the myIncludefile.cfm file I reference the "somevar" variable. How is this handled? Since there is an external dependency in the included file, is the file still compiled individually? Or is the whole request - root page and includ - compiled together. I find it hard to believe that each file is compiled separately as if it were a java class. I rather suspect that each unique sequence of files would be compiled as a separate class. Do you see what I mean? -mk -Original Message- From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Problems with CFMX? Mark, The mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Problems with CFMX? Rob, Can you elaborate on the "large file" issue? For example, if I have the following: ... other includes depending on the event and assuming that each of these scripts is a couple hundred lines or so - is that a CFMX killer, or is that ok? I realize that using CFC's eliminate the necessity of problems like this and we are actively do that for projects "going forward" - but what about complex aps written for CF 4.x or 5? -mk -Original Message- From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Problems with CFMX? Hi Mark, We have a very large site, and have had a few problems. Here are some other thing you need to watch for / problems we had/have: 1. MX can not handle large .cfm files. By large I mean > ~850 lines of code 2. You could have some issues if you use fusebox methodology. 3. Jacked up database connections - I believe these are due to the fact that MS doesn't have a SQL *7* JDBC Driver. Since you are using SQL2000 they have native JDBC drivers so you *might* not have issues. 4. Sloppy code 5. XSL transformations can not have variables passed into them On the plus side: MX does XML building really, really cool and in a groovy way Once complied the "feel" of MX is quite snappy. Debugging is rad - especially if you know Java CFC are cool in cfscript you can use normal tags! Cheers, Rob -Original Message- From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Problems with CFMX? I have been watching threads like "LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF" and "CFMX - I've never seen anything so unstable in my life" over the past few weeks. What has me concerned is this next few weeks I am going to upgrade a fairly large site to CFMX. The site currently runs CF 5 and MS SQL 2000. Are there a large number of problems with CFMX that I should know about? Luckily I have a few weeks to play with the new servers before they go live. Any ETA on a CFMX .1 update? (is one needed) Thanks Mark W. Breneman -Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer -Network / Web Server Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: repost: cfcontent trys to download
> Hi, > I have two servers, on one cfcontent acts as expected it > browses the file > I'm pushing. On the other it tries to download it as the > .cfm page. Any > clues as to why this would happen. I"m looking at all of > the differences of > the machines and can't find much. Are you talking about just not passing the correct file name? ... I've run into similar problems which I was under the impression was client related rather than server, where a cfheader and cfcontent pair which work properly on one browser don't on another... these days I'm using this: hth Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
OT: COLLATE SQL 7
I have the following SQL Create statement ... MS SQL 7 doesn't like the collate, what should I remove just the collate statement or the whole SQL_Latin1 ect... CREATE TABLE [#form.dbOwner#].[#form.dbPrefix#admin_security] ( [id] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL , [userid] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL , [security] [varchar] (50) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS NOT NULL ) ON [PRIMARY] Thanks Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> - The multiple SQL statements issue is a data source setup issue (use > ODBC Socket instead of Microsoft SQL Driver or whatever it's called). > It just happened to work with a particular CF5 driver but it wasn't actually the ability to stuff multiple t-sql into one cfquery's been around since i can remember, so its not particularly related to a cf5 driver. i would call this sort of ingrained in cf developer's psyche. it actually still works for the most part. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/2545 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
CFMX wipes session vars after Verity update?
Just had a curious glitch in an app (running CFMX with updater on my local WinXP Pro desktop): Using the developer tools interface I've built into my app, I went and created the Verity collection for indexing a directory of files. Fine. Then I selected the option to update (i.e. index) the collection. There was the usual pause while it indexed, then I was promptly thrown back to my login form. Apparently, my session vars no longer existed. The code I running was a plain CFINDEX: I don't know *for sure* that the session variables had gone - I've logged back in now and the indexing worked OK. But, to my eyes, it seemed that my session had just been wiped. Anyone come across anything like this before? - Gyrus - [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: http://www.tengai.co.uk play: http://www.norlonto.net - PGP key available ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Get SQL Info
Doesn't work for me. I think Ben wants a dump of all the SQL run on the page, as you get with the debugging output. - Original Message - From: "Rob Rohan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:29 AM Subject: RE: Get SQL Info > in 5+ > > -Original Message- > From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Get SQL Info > > > Is there a way to get SQL Info similar to what is displayed in debugging > output? Like something similar to being able to grab all session > variables or form variables. Such as: > > > #sql[i]# > > > Only whatever the value would be. I can't seem to get this one. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ben > > Ben Densmore > Web Developer > eSupport.com,Inc. > 1538 Turnpike St. > North Andover, MA 01845 > > Phone: (978) 686-6468 x333 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
3rd Party JDBC Drivers was Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> Examples of configuration (to some degree): > - The multiple SQL statements issue is a data source setup > issue (use ODBC Socket instead of Microsoft SQL Driver or > whatever it's called). It just happened to work with a particular > CF5 driver but it wasn't intentional (despite Ben's 'hints & tips'). > Change configuration and it solves the problem. Bear in mind > also that the JDBC drivers are *third-party*, not > Macromedia-developed. I thought all the db drivers were 3rd party ... Has Allaire / MM actually developed db drivers? Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Buying CF5 (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Sean, I think that is a good move I also know that CFMX will prove to be an immense product and that Macromedia have repeatedly listened to what we have said on CF_Talk and that there is a lot of appreciation from many of us here for that. I would also like to say that your repeated assistance is much appreciated. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO Webapper http://www.webapper.com Downey CA Office 562.243.6255 AIM - webappermb "Webapper - Making the NET work" -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Buying CF5 (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 11:27 US/Pacific, Jillian Carroll wrote: > I can tell you what the haste is... I am looking to install CF on a new > server... and I can no longer purchase CF 5. Not true: http://www.corfield.org/blog/2002_10_01_archive.html#82381859 It was even discussed on this list recently. Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 fax: (415) 865-3113 -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: convert first letter of words in a string to upper
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=9 -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 5:31:50 PM, you wrote: CE> I need a function to CE> convert first letter of words in a string to upper case. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: cfflush on mx small data pools
I'd start by removing the interval attribute -- it's not required and without it, the tag just flushes everything in the buffer at the point the flush is reached -- the interval is intended for something like this: #some query variables here# The idea being that the page will load faster overall if it flushes only after every 1kb of display instead of after every iteration of the loop, since each flush takes some time away from the CF thread which is processing the page. hth Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > I am trying to flush a very small amount of data on mx but > don't seem to be > able to get the following to flush: > > > > Processing. > > > processing > > > I would like it to flush immeadiately--its a payment page > and I want to let > users know something is happening. The text does not > appear until the page > loads (15-30 seconds later). > Any ideas? > Thanks, > Sam > ~~ > ~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sideb > ar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the > official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: 2nd question - Run MX as nobody? - Solution
Seems my email is acting wonky all of a sudden. Hopefully this hits. The problem you guys are running into is that the "nobody" user does not have a defined shell. You need to run CF as a user with a valid shell on solaris, solaris does not allow SU to define a shell for temporary command-running use like Linux. Therefore, simply create a user on the system with a valid shell, and set CF to run as that, and you'll be fine. Jesse -Original Message- From: Sean A Corfield To: CF-Talk Sent: 10/8/2002 1:47 PM Subject: Re: 2nd question - Run MX as nobody? Cathy Taylor wrote: >> I'm trying to evaluate our CF MX upgrade on Solaris before I turn our >> masses loose on it. I can't run it as root and our security >> regulations forbid me from creating a new user to run it as (that >> wouldn't work anyway since our web server runs as nobody). I've read >> the docs and modified the user to "nobody", but it won't start. The >> error log just says 'su no shell'. Of course nobody has no shell, but >> I'm sure it must be able to run that way. Am I missing something? I just checked one of our QA servers and we are indeed running it as nobody: nobody 24650 24648 0 Sep 30 ? 306:11 /data/www/appserver/cfusionmx/bin/cfusion -start default nobody 24648 1 0 Sep 30 ?0:00 /data/www/appserver/cfusionmx/bin/cfusion -autorestart -start default scorfiel 28370 28362 0 13:38:39 pts/10:00 fgrep cf Then I checked another one: scorfiel 23763 23758 0 13:40:03 pts/20:00 fgrep cf nobody 27009 27007 0 Sep 04 ? 1435:01 /data/www/appserver/neo/bin/cfusion -start default nobody 27007 1 0 Sep 04 ?0:00 /data/www/appserver/neo/bin/cfusion -autorestart -start default Also running as nobody (that one's a production server, BTW). As far as I know, our guys just followed the installation instructions but I'll ask them if there were any issues around the 'nobody' user. An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: looping through a text string
Looking for something like this? #word# - Original Message - From: "Brian Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: looping through a text string > What would be the delimiter if you wanted to loop through a text string? > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
OT: What's the diff?
This is OT but I hope someone here can help. So, what is the difference between Flash Communication Server and Flash Remoting Server? More specifically, does Flash Communication Server come with Flash Remoting Server built in, or do I need both? I have a project for a client coming up where the front end/UI needs to be done in Flash... and a "desktop" version of the app (data itself) needs to sych with the core web system upon request when it comes back "online". But, in the same breath the client is interested in future modules that allow utilize online communications, such as chat, streaming media, audio conferencing and even "application remote control" or the "multi-user cursors" that come as components of Flash Communication Server. Please help me understand... Confused, Drew Harris ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: convert first letter of words in a string to upper
http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=116 Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > I need a function to > convert first letter of words in a string to upper case. > -- > Chris Edwards > Web Application Developer > Outer Banks Internet, Inc. > 252-441-6698 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.OuterBanksInternet.com > ~~ > ~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sideb > ar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Get the mailserver that powers this list at > http://www.coolfusion.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: Return a Sub-Query as a Comma Delimited List
This explains why I didn't understand how coallesce was supposed to produce a comma delimited list... DECLARE @EmployeeList varchar(100) SELECT @EmployeeList = COALESCE(@EmployeeList + ',', '') + CAST(Emp_UniqueID AS varchar(5)) FROM SalesCallsEmployees WHERE SalCal_UniqueID = 1 SELECT @EmployeeList There are a number of "hacks" going on here -- it _must_ be SELECT @mylist = COALESCE(... and not SELECT COALESCE(... which just returns one row for each item you want in the list. You can put the above code in a tag, but it won't return the list ( actually the query is undefined after running it, although it runs okay ) -- at least that's my experience using the odbc drivers in cf 5 ... so it would have to be in a stored procedure to get anything out of it... But in those unique instances where you really want a list in a column from the db, this would be really useful. :) Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > You may want to look at this > http://www.sqlteam.com/item.asp?ItemID=2368 > I tried this a few weeks ago. Seems that it needs to be a > stored procedure > to run. I was looking for a solution that involved a > simple query. But, it > may help you. > Mark W. Breneman > -Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer > -Network / Web Server Administrator > Vivid Media > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.vividmedia.com > 608.270.9770 > -Original Message- > From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Return a Sub-Query as a Comma Delimited List > The subject line says it all... I am writing a query for > MS SQL Server and > need to return a comma delimited list of values from a > subquery in the > select statement. Anyone know a way to do this? > For instance, I have a tasks table, a users table, and a > reference table > linking multiple users to tasks. I want each row of the > results to display > the task title along with a comma delimited list of the > names of users > assigned to the task. > Normally, this is something I would do in CF by grouping > the output, but in > this instance it is important to return the results > without grouping them. > Any help is appreciated, thanks, > M > ~~ > ~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sideb > ar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these > lists and provide more resources for the community. > http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Problems with CFMX?
Yes sometimes but sometimes it will just crap out all together. Not completely blank if you view source it would be a fully formed html page but that's it. In a support call with macromedia they actually recreated the problem inhouse and have identified the problem that I was having as a bug in Linux kernel & JVM -- see http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4650839.html and http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4654490.html. Not to say that I could make much sence out of those too links, I am not a java or linux kernal expert by a long shot. They are working on a fix. I did switch to the IBM jvm of my own accord and have had 2.5 days of up time which is a very good showing so far. My hopes will not up until I see something like 12 or 22 days of up time. The reason that I posted was to get more info about how large cfm pages cause problems mainly because we have a lot fo large cfm pages. I had told macromedia about the large files and they didn't make a big deal out of it. -d- >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/02 12:15PM >>> When you get the outofmemory errors, are your cfm pages displayed blank in the browser? ~~ Stephenie Hamilton Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional CFXHosting > |-Original Message- > |From: Devin Callaway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:40 PM > |To: CF-Talk > |Subject: RE: Problems with CFMX? > | > | > |Could someone comment on the large .cfm files issue. We > |have quite a few files that are very large like > 1000 lines > |but the maybe 5 lines of actual cfml the rest html. We are > |having problems with our servers restarts and > |Java.lang.outofmemory errors. We do have a support call in > |with macromedia they are working on a fix for our problem. > |They did not focus on large pages. I was wondering if the > |large cfm files causing a problem is documented anywhere? > | > | > |-d- > | > | > | > | > |Devin Callaway > |Westminster College > |Information Technology > |[EMAIL PROTECTED] > |801-832-2002 > | > | > |>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/02 10:46AM >>> > | > | > | 1. MX can not handle large .cfm files. By large I mean > |> ~850 lines of code > | > | > | > |-Original Message- > |From: Mark W. Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:32 AM > |To: CF-Talk > |Subject: Problems with CFMX? > | > | > |I have been watching threads like "LONG time CF Supporter - > |About ready to dump CF" and "CFMX - I've never seen anything > |so unstable in my life" over the past few weeks. What has > |me concerned is this next few weeks I am going to upgrade a > |fairly large site to CFMX. The site currently runs CF 5 and > |MS SQL 2000. Are there a large number of problems with CFMX > |that I should know about? Luckily I have a few weeks to > |play with the new servers before they go live. > | > |Any ETA on a CFMX .1 update? (is one needed) > | > |Thanks > | > |Mark W. Breneman > |-Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer > |-Network / Web Server Administrator > | Vivid Media > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | www.vividmedia.com > | 608.270.9770 > | > | > | > | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: looping through a text string
Finds out if the string has alpha in it Finds out if the string has numbers in it - Original Message - From: "charlie griefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:11 PM Subject: Re: looping through a text string > why delimiter? > > > #mid(myString, i, "1")# > > > one way to skin that particular cat, i suppose... > > > > > Brian Thornton writes: > > > What would be the delimiter if you wanted to loop through a text string? > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Not Another MX boo boo?
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 14:07 US/Pacific, Rob Rohan wrote: > dateFormat(now(), "dd/mm/yy (ddd)") > > No longer works in MX. looks like only certain characters work in date > format. I get: date is 08/10/02 (Tue) using this code: date is #str# Can you be a bit more precise about what "No longer works" about this please? (And perhaps use a less confrontational subject line? :) An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: sql server connectivity error
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 14:24 US/Pacific, JLH All Turbo wrote: > I'm getting that error when verifying a connetion through the CFMX dsn > creator. I also get it when I try to run any CFMX cfm pages that use > that > dsn. > > YET when I try connecting and verifying through Win2k's ODBC set up.. > it > works FINE. No problems... any idea what might cause that error? You probably need to specify the username/password in the Advanced Settings in the CF data source setup. That seems to be the most common omission that causes this problem. "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true - I no longer know how to use my telephone." -- Bjarne Stroustrup ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Share Settings w/Eachother?
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 14:15 US/Pacific, Lee Fuller wrote: > Sorry.. Let me clarify.. > > I was specifically talking about the "Server Settings" section of the > summary. I know that you probably don't want your datasources, etc., > all strewn about the net. :) And also make sure y'all don't accidentally post serial numbers (which CF helpfully shows in the Settings Summary page!) An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Snippet Re: looping through a text string
Broke out the RegEx manual. - Original Message - From: "Everett, Al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: RE: looping through a text string > There wouldn't be one. You could do this, though: > > > > ... > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Brian Thornton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:22 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: looping through a text string > > > > > > What would be the delimiter if you wanted to loop through a > > text string? > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
repost: cfcontent trys to download
Hi, I have two servers, on one cfcontent acts as expected it browses the file I'm pushing. On the other it tries to download it as the .cfm page. Any clues as to why this would happen. I"m looking at all of the differences of the machines and can't find much. TIA, Rob ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Can we help? (was RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!)
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 10:55 US/Pacific, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally believe that this is the root of nearly every problem at > Macromedia right now. Internally and externally. Internally, probably > mostly due to the fragmented communities of employees in the east/west > coast You'd probably be amazed at how much communication goes on here. In fact, folks from both coasts have been discussing these threads internally most of the day. > Externally, the MM.com website is disorganized, > hard to navigate, and riddled with inconsistencies. It's no secret that we're redesigning the site to make it more user-focused and task-focused in order to address these problems. Again, we talk to users, we take notes, we figure out how to improve things. Your feedback is good. > As has also been > brought up, a definite wall is up between developers and staff if you > try to > go through "normal" channels for support. Well, you can't really expect a few dozen developers to directly support a few hundred thousand CF programmers! :) > As I've said on > other lists, the wishlist is not an effective bug submission channel. But it is the only *official* channel right now. > I really love ColdFusion, I want to help fix things. I think that, deep down, almost everyone here feels the same - no matter what the tone of the 'flames' here might suggest... > I know people at Macromedia are > listening because they are here on this (and other) lists, but are > they the > right people? Are they the people who can make real changes? Er, yes, I think so. We're certainly trying to resolve the issues that are coming up so that the community's perception of Macromedia will improve. > Vernon, Sean, Jesse, Mike - What else can we developers do to fix > things? Vern will probably cringe but... Y'all could stop bashing MM and focus on helping us help you resolve problems. Let's stop the whole "CF sux! Macromedia sux! I'm going to .NET if you don't solve my problems *immediately*!" thing. I know it makes people feel better to vent a bit but... really... these recent threads are a bit much! Yes, there are clearly issues that need attention and some of the ones we're hearing about through the forums (but not through the official channels, I would note!) are hard to track down, hard to reproduce and hard to debug. People seem to have accepted as fact - and best practice - that you have to zealously lock all shared scope variable access in CF5 and earlier even though that was really to work around bugs in the server itself. Hopefully, people will find a similar acceptance for the new best practices we may all have to adopt for this new release of ColdFusion. And remember that best practices often change with each language / product version - try to think back to some of the earlier CF upgrades! "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true - I no longer know how to use my telephone." -- Bjarne Stroustrup ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: sql server connectivity error
Is this SQL Server? If so, what authentication mode are you in Windows only or Mixed (SQL and Windows). Jeff - Original Message - From: "JLH All Turbo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: sql server connectivity error Connection verification failed for data source: punkhardcore []java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other connectivity info. The root cause was that: java.sql.SQLException: SQLException occurred in JDBCPool while attempting to connect, please check your username, password, URL, and other connectivity info. I'm getting that error when verifying a connetion through the CFMX dsn creator. I also get it when I try to run any CFMX cfm pages that use that dsn. YET when I try connecting and verifying through Win2k's ODBC set up.. it works FINE. No problems... any idea what might cause that error? I am logging in with the correct l/p.. Jacob. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: convert first letter of words in a string to upper
#ucase(left(myString, 1))##lcase(right(myString, len(myString)-1))# Chris Edwards writes: > I need a function to > convert first letter of words in a string to upper case. > > > -- > Chris Edwards > Web Application Developer > Outer Banks Internet, Inc. > 252-441-6698 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.OuterBanksInternet.com > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
POP3 Custom tags
We are currently using CFX_iiPOP3 custom tag. It works OK, but sometimes it doesn't work correctly with French letters in subject line and always does not understand French letters in sender's name. Native CFPOP is even worse. So we plan to switch to advPOP3 (by ASPFusion) which doesn't have such problems. Does anybody use it? Is it stable? Maybe there is something else? BTW I checked another custom tag (CFX_POP3) and found it doesn't work properly with French letters in sender's name too Regards, Alex ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: 2nd question - Run MX as nobody?
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 13:47 US/Pacific, Sean A Corfield wrote: > As far as I know, our guys just followed the installation instructions > but I'll ask them if there were any issues around the 'nobody' user. I asked the engineers who did the installs: they just followed the instructions. They've all done multiple installations, following the instructions, with no issues at all due to CFMX running as nobody. Sorry if that is unhelpful. Can you provide more details about the problems you are seeing and any variations from the instructions during install? An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: delete session vars
You really don't want to use parameterexists(anything) -- parameterexists was deprecated a while back. You want to use isdefined("session.var") or possibly structkeyexists(session,"var") but to answer your question, should remove the offending variable from the session scope. hth Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > I am new to session vars so this is probably an easy > answer, How do I delete > a session var from existence? I want to be able to make > paramterexstits(session.var) return a false after the > possibility of it > being set to something. > thanks ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: convert first letter of words in a string to upper
Chris, Have a look at www.cflib.org It has heaps of cool things, and I'm quite sure also what you are looking for. Jared Clinton. NEC Australia. -Original Message- From: Chris Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: convert first letter of words in a string to upper I need a function to convert first letter of words in a string to upper case. -- Chris Edwards Web Application Developer Outer Banks Internet, Inc. 252-441-6698 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.OuterBanksInternet.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: delete session vars
where 'key' is the session variable in question. You can do this to clear out your session as a whole: At 02:38 PM 10/8/2002 -0600, you wrote: >I am new to session vars so this is probably an easy answer, How do I delete >a session var from existence? I want to be able to make >paramterexstits(session.var) return a false after the possibility of it >being set to something. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: looping through a text string
I would use something like this... mid(mystring, i, 1) Jeff - Original Message - From: "Brian Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: looping through a text string What would be the delimiter if you wanted to loop through a text string? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 13:43 US/Pacific, jon hall wrote: > Isn't there a Flash Remoting Java server shipped with EJB's now? There is a Flash Remoting for J2EE product, yes: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashremoting/ > Are there any code samples floating around that I could peek at to see > if I want to try it out? For some reason, doing the remoting stuff in > Java peaks my interest more than with CF. See above. Also see: http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash_remoting/tutorial_index.html An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 11:03 US/Pacific, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: > Dev workstation with XP, IIS 5 (maybe 6?), connecting to an SQL 7 box > (SP > ) - SQL server was remote from the CFMX server > Production server with Win2k (sp2 and hotfixes) with IIS 5 connecting > to an > SQL 7 box (sp 3) - SQL server remote from CFMX server > Production server with Win2k (sp2 and hotfixes) with IIS 5 connecting > to an > SQL 2000 box (sp 2) - SQL server was local to the CFMX server (on the > same > LAN). All with the Microsoft SQL Driver? Have you tried the ODBC Socket approach to see if that resolves the problem? An Architect's View -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a New Internet Experience Register today at http://www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: looping through a text string
All of the list functions include the delimiter as the optional last argument to the function and they default to a comma... > What would be the delimiter if you wanted to loop through > a text string? > ~~ > ~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sideb > ar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these > lists and provide more resources for the community. > http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Web services question from a beginner
btw ws = createObject("webservice","http://www.ejseinc.com/WeatherService/Service.asmx?WSDL";); objWs = ws.getWeatherInfo(02466); getLocation = objWs.getLocation(); getForecast = objWs.getForecast(); getTemprature = objWs.getTemprature(); getFeelsLike = objWs.getFeelsLike(); getVisibility = objWs.getVisibility(); getPressure = objWs.getPressure(); getDewPoint = objWs.getDewPoint(); getUVIndex = objWs.getUVIndex(); getHumidity = objWs.getHumidity(); getWind = objWs.getWind(); getReportedAt = objWs.getReportedAt(); getLastUpdated = objWs.getLastUpdated(); is about 10x faster hth, michael d corbridge macromedia 617.219.2307 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Return a Sub-Query as a Comma Delimited List
Mike, Although it's not possible to return a comma delimited list of values from a subquery in the select statement, maybe the this block of test code will help you produce the results you're looking for: select u.username, t.taskname from users u inner join usertasks ut on (u.userid = ut.userid) inner join tasks t on (ut.taskid = t.taskid) order by t.taskname, u.username Task User #variables.userlist# #taskname# #variables.userlist# - Original Message - From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:32 PM Subject: Return a Sub-Query as a Comma Delimited List > The subject line says it all... I am writing a query for MS SQL Server and > need to return a comma delimited list of values from a subquery in the > select statement. Anyone know a way to do this? > > For instance, I have a tasks table, a users table, and a reference table > linking multiple users to tasks. I want each row of the results to display > the task title along with a comma delimited list of the names of users > assigned to the task. > > Normally, this is something I would do in CF by grouping the output, but in > this instance it is important to return the results without grouping them. > > Any help is appreciated, thanks, > > M > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: QUestion about Input File and CFFILE
The file information from the client machine is stored in a series of variables called cffile.clientfile[whatever] so cffile.clientfile will give you the name of the file and cffile.clientfileext will give you the extension of the file from the client machine... all of the same information for the file which gets stored on the server ( the uploaded copy ) are stored in a series of variables called cffile.serverfile[whever] ... All of this is in the docs for CFFILE, though it can take some getting used to -- p.s. unfortunately the variables returned from cffile during an upload are not in a structure in CF 5 and prior, they're all just individual variables -- which stinks, but what can you do. :) Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > I am trying to upload a file using CFFILE. I can get it > to wrok just fine. But > what I can't do is get the name of the file BEFORE I use > CFFILE. When I try to > output the name of the file input box, I get some weird > name with an extension > of .tmp. Can anyone help me with what I need please? > Thanks, > Brian Yager > President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group > http://www.nacfug.com > Sr. Systems Analyst > Sverdrup/CIC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (256) 842-8342 > ~~ > ~~~| > Archives: > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 > Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sideb > ar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up > with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. > http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: looping through a text string
- Original Message - From: "Brian Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What would be the delimiter if you wanted to loop through a text string? --- I'm *sure* you've misphrased that question! ;-) Only lists have delimiters... though lists are strings, just treated in a certain way regarding specified delimiter... All CF list functions have an optional delimiter parameter, default is comma... to loop through lists... Is this answer in here somewhere? - Gyrus - [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: http://www.tengai.co.uk play: http://www.norlonto.net - PGP key available ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Client Storage and MySQL
I seem to remember a problem with CF4 flushing client variables from a MySQL database. Does anyone know if this problem still exists with CF5 and CFMX and if so, is there a workround? -- Jay. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: LONG time CF Supporter - suggestion!!
My experience... I was having a nightmare of a time until the updater came out.. but since then, mx has been working great for me. I haven't had to reboot since I installed the updater. I was in the beta program, and by the end of the beta program, all of my code was working fine on my test machine, even under load testing, but when it went live on a high volume site - the nightmares started.. java database connector problems which stopped all web pages from displaying until a reboot - sometimes restarting services weren't enough... I went back to cf 5 for my old sites, but had to keep MX for a site I developed using the advanced features. Note - my test machine didn't have that problem, which means I couldn't even reproduce the problem using my own code. My point: no matter how hard we test in a beta program, until you go live in the real world, a lot of these problems don't pop up. The best to hope for is to be able to have them fixed quickly when they are found. Which brings me to my idea: Obviously, there are way too many messages in cf-talk for MM to respond to. How about when a problem pops up like this one, Michael puts up a poll to see how many people are affected and how severe a problem it is for them. Once it hits a certain level - say 100 people with a minor problem or 5 people with a major problem, a MM tech support agent is assigned to help fix it over this mailing list - so the people it affects can help supply the code and answers to help the tech support guy figure out what is going on and fix it? And we get feedback on how the fix is coming along. Al Musella a1webs.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Uhm.. I've received this communication in error. ;) | -Original Message- | From: Larry Juncker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:43 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | Yes Emmet, that is correct and I am still on CF5 with this | issue. I forgot to mention that earlier. | | | Larry Juncker | Senior Cold fusion Developer | Heartland Communications Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (515) 574-2122 | | CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE | The information contained in this e-mail is intended only for | the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. | This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, | confidential and/or personal. If the reader of this message | is not the intended recipient (or the employee or agent | responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient), you are | hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or | copying of this communication is prohibited. | | If you have received this communication in error, please | notify us at the e-mail listed above. | | -Original Message- | From: Emmet McGovern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 2:08 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | That statement on security low was a little vague. For | clarification its actually the application protection should | be set to Low(IIS Process). Do this for each web site. | Properties/home directory - Application Protection in IIS. | This should solve your problem, and its actually a win2000 | problem, although I'm sure there's a workaround macromedia | could have done. | | Emmet | | -Original Message- | From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:42 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | Well, if that's the case, I'd be shocked. IIS logs in on | it's own to the system, and should have full control over all | the files that it has to read and deliver. It doesn't | require secondary permissions. The thread that pulls the | page (initiated by the connection) does. But that's | before-the-fact. The fact that IIS would require a lowering | of security status is a bit disquieting. And certainly so if | it's really just for CFMX. | | That would be a security THREAT, not a solution. (Or am I just being | paranoid?) | | Really.. The issue is most likely simple. If someone from MM | simply watched, grabbed logs from, poked and prodded a dead | server (any of ours), they'd most likely find the issue | pretty quickly, I have no doubt. | | And going back to CF5 is beginning to look like the solution | for now. Unfortunately that means people using it's more | powerful features (like James Johnson ) would now | have to go backwards. But it may be our only hope at this point. | | For the record.. The server in question has died (and | restarted itself) 11 times since this thread started at 6am | this morning. Always running itself into oblivion, then | having to restart. | | The logs look like a jumble of gobbledy-gook from one of my | old Fortran-printing days. Most of which means nothing to | me. Most of it is duplicated in several log files. | | Anyway.. | | | | | -Original Message- | | From: Larry Juncker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:12 AM | | To: CF-Talk | | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | | | | I have found on our servers, that when this happens,( the | 404 errors | | on pages that were working just fine) we have to go into | IIS and set | | the security permissions to low on the folder that the file | is in and | | then they work again... | | | | It seems to me that this problem is a security problem with Windows | | 200 server and not CF. | | | | Has anyone else found this to be true? | | | | Curious. | | | | Larry Juncker | | Senior Cold fusion Developer | | Heartland Communications Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | (515) 574-2122 | | | | CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE | | The information contained in this e-mail is intended only | for the use | | of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This | e-mail may | | contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or | personal. | | If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient (or the | | employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended | | recipient), you are hereby notified that any dissemination, | | distribution, or copying of this communication is prohibited. | | | | If you have received this communication in error, please | notify us at | | the e-mail listed above. | | | | -Original Message- | | From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 8:20 AM | | To: CF-Talk | | Subject: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! | | | | | | Well,
RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> I don't think it's fair to say he must publicly apologize > for his communication problems. That's absurd to even > contemplate that. Tony, I'm not looking for an essay or anything. I have been on lists in the past where I have made comments that I later regretted making because I did not read all the information and jumped too soon and I have apologized for that. I have seen other people be overly hostile and later realized they were wrong so they apologized. There's no harm in that. There are a lot of apologies made even on CF-Talk. Everything from simple, "Oops -- I read that wrong," to a more formal, "I'm sorry, I shouldn't have jumped down your throat." It's really more of a courtesy than anything. Ben Johnson Information Architect www.architekture.com [p] 720.934.2179 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Web services question from a beginner
John, We've all spent '8 hours' getting to square one, so don't get discouraged. Here's some code that accomplishes what you are after: ws = createObject("webservice","http://www.ejseinc.com/WeatherService/Service.asmx?WSDL";); getLocation = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getLocation(); getForecast = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getForecast(); getTemprature = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getTemprature(); getFeelsLike = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getFeelsLike(); getVisibility = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getVisibility(); getPressure = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getPressure(); getDewPoint = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getDewPoint(); getUVIndex = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getUVIndex(); getHumidity = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getHumidity(); getWind = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getWind(); getReportedAt = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getReportedAt(); getLastUpdated = ws.getWeatherInfo(98102).getLastUpdated(); getLocation =#getLocation# getForecast = #getForecast# getTemprature = #getTemprature# getFeelsLike = #getFeelsLike# getVisibility = #getVisibility# getPressure = #getPressure# getDewPoint = #getDewPoint# getUVIndex = #getUVIndex# getHumidity = #getHumidity# getWind = #getWind# getReportedAt = #getReportedAt# getLastUpdated = #getLastUpdated# I am using cfscript because I feel that it is a more comfortable code to work with webservices. A big hint: do a cfdump on 'ws.getWeatherInfo(98102)' I hope this helps, and thanks for using webservices and CFMX! michael d corbridge macromedia 617.219.2307 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Web services question from a beginner
John, I used DreamWeaverMX's automatic configure capability to get the following code: http://www.ejseinc.com/WeatherService/Service.asmx?WSDL"; method="getDayForcastInfo" returnvariable="aDayForcastInfo"> http://www.ejseinc.com/WeatherService/Service.asmx?WSDL"; method="getExtendedWeatherInfo" returnvariable="aExtendedWeatherInfo"> http://www.ejseinc.com/WeatherService/Service.asmx?WSDL"; method="getWeatherInfo" returnvariable="aWeatherInfo"> The structs are as follows: aDayForcastInfo.date aDayForcastInfo.day aDayForcastInfo.forecast aDayForcastInfo.high aDayForcastInfo.low aDayForcastInfo.precipChance aDayForcastInfo.typeDesc aDayForcastInfo.iconIndex aExtendedWeatherInfo.day1 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day2 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day3 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day4 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day5 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day6 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day7 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day8 aExtendedWeatherInfo.day9 aExtendedWeatherInfo.typeDesc aExtendedWeatherInfo.info aWeatherInfo.UVIndex aWeatherInfo.dewPoint aWeatherInfo.feelsLike aWeatherInfo.forecast aWeatherInfo.humidity aWeatherInfo.lastUpdated aWeatherInfo.location aWeatherInfo.pressure aWeatherInfo.reportedAt aWeatherInfo.temprature aWeatherInfo.visibility aWeatherInfo.wind aWeatherInfo.typeDesc aWeatherInfo.iconIndex I hope this helps. Take care, Robert -- Original Message -- From: "John Munyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 13:18:40 -0700 >Let me start by saying that I am a beginner with programming in general. > > > >I am trying to configure consume a weather web service but am unsure >what is going wrong. I have spent about 8 hours trying to get figure >this out and have thus far failed. The problem I believe is that the >webservice has struct's and I am not dealing with them appropriately. I >have reviewed what information there is (I believe) on consuming complex >web services and not found an example complete enough that I can >understand how different methods of consumption might apply to my >situation. > > > >The web service I am attempting to use is: > > > >http://www.xmethods.net/ve2/ViewListing.po;jsessionid=6kLVZKkGRqLBTCjYjr >Mspppz(QhxieSRM)?serviceid=147576 > > > >The WSDL is: > > > >http://www.ejseinc.com/WeatherService/Service.asmx?WSDL > > > >The code I am using is: > > > > > > > >Untitled Document > > > > > > > > > > > > > webservice="http://www.ejseinc.com/WeatherService/Service.asmx?WSDL"; > > method="getWeatherInfo" > > returnvariable="aWeatherInfo"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The page itself can be viewed at. It takes a couple seconds to load. > > > >http://www.attrition.ws/win1.cfm > > > >I would appreciate any pointers about how to make this work, either >conceptual or practical. Like I said I am new to Coldfusion and >programming in general and specifically am unsure what the implication >of consuming a web service providing a (stuct (I think)is). I am by no >means averse to reading information about how to get this working so if >you have the time to point me to any resources which might assist me >directly or indirectly I would value that very much. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >John > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: looping through a text string
" " (a space) Jay - Original Message - From: "Brian Thornton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: looping through a text string > What would be the delimiter if you wanted to loop through a text string? > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: CFMAIL with relaying off
Does the mail server support "POP3 before SMTP" relaying? If so create a dummy pop box on the server and get CF to create a CFPOP connection to the server first. -- Jay - Original Message - From: "Gene Kraybill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: CFMAIL with relaying off > Has anyone successfully used CFMAIL with an Exc 2000 SMTP server, when SMTP > relaying is prohibited? Adding the IP of the web server to the exception > list in the SMTP service doesn't seem to work, as I still get relaying > errors on external mail. And CFMAIL doesn't have username/pwd parameters... > > Gene Kraybill > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: JDBC socket reset (was CF supporter something or other....)
Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: > Dave, > > Yes - that's the fix we are using. But all the hype over Type 4 drivers > makes us want to use them instead of JDBC. Some people doing i18n will not call the MS SQL Server Type 4 JDBC drivers a hype. BTW, is there *anyone* that has JDBC problems where it is not with MS SQL Server? I sure get the impression that the problems are created by MS instead of MM. Jochem -- Why blame somebody else when you can blame MS? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Ben Johnson wrote: >>Macromedia has a communication problem. > > > Matt, > By all means I don't mean to start a war with this e-mail but I > have been several lists with you and I have seen many people get > frustrated with posts you have sent. I get frustrated with his posts too. Whenever he sends something I expect some deeper insight and it is really frustrating when it is just about something as down to earth as Beta access :) Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
Thane Sherrington wrote: > > I'm all for > free support (and I think MM should offer at least one free support call > for each purchased copy when rolling out a new product like this) Amen. Wasn't it $75 to open an incident? Up the price by $75 and give everybody one free incident. Same "real bug, no pay" rules apply. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
How wonderful! (Was: RE: Get SQL Info)
See.. It's stuff like this that makes this list so great! Just thought I'd chime in.. :) | -Original Message- | From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:29 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: Get SQL Info | | | in 5+ | | -Original Message- | From: Ben Densmore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:57 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Get SQL Info | | | Is there a way to get SQL Info similar to what is displayed | in debugging output? Like something similar to being able to | grab all session variables or form variables. Such as: | | | #sql[i]# | | Only whatever the value would be. I can't seem to get this one. | | Any help would be appreciated. | | Thanks, | Ben | | Ben Densmore | Web Developer | eSupport.com,Inc. | 1538 Turnpike St. | North Andover, MA 01845 | | Phone: (978) 686-6468 x333 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 09:04 US/Pacific, Lee Fuller wrote: > You see, (and this is a bit of a walk down memory lane, and maybe even > borders on a fantasy dream world) when Allaire started, we had open, > clear and useful discussions about what was happening with the product. I think pretty much everyone agrees that when Allaire was a small company and you could just email Jer or Ben directly and get a response, life was grand! > But, unfortunately, MM has fallen into the same-ol' trap as > M$, and others and has grown apart (to a great extent) from the core > community. Hence this list. Well, Allaire actually grew to almost the same size at one point that Macromedia is today so the "David & Goliath" comparison doesn't hold water and, more to the point, the community was complaining about this exact, same problem with Allaire once it grew 'big'. It's not a Macromedia problem per se, it's a big-company problem: in order to fairly support a large community of users, you need to put in place procedures and layers so that engineering doesn't get swamped with end user emails and calls. Besides, several people have commented that Macromedia's involvement today is greater than Allaire's was before the merger. "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true - I no longer know how to use my telephone." -- Bjarne Stroustrup ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
I don't have a hard slant against MM or CF. I just point out the problems I see with both. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ 888-408-0900 x901 > -Original Message- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:00 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! > > Wow. > > Is someone just a little bit bitter? > > I thought I had detected a hard slant against MM and CF, but you are > making it _way_ too easy. > > And since all we see are complaints... > > Cold Fusion working perfectly here. Windows based. Version 5. Nice little > cluster. Love it. > > FWIW > Jerry Johnson > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/02 01:02PM >>> > I have pointed out things to whoever will listen at Macromedia and I all > I have to show for it is removal of my beta access to a JRun service > pack. Thanks! > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:00 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! > > > > And have you pointed this out to your Sales Rep? A tech support > person? > > Vernon? Have you pointed this out anywhere other than a 3rd party > mailing > > list? > > > > Jesse Noller > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Macromedia Server Development > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:40 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! > > > > > > Jessie, I don't think you are getting it. We all understand what > > > Macromedia's policy on this issue is. We just disagree with it and > chose > > > not to follow it. For some (like Lee) that may mean that CF is no > longer > > > an option. For me, it was a company directive to remove all CF > > > dependencies from our product suite. We'll still OEM CFMX for > customers > > > that want CF, but we are no longer betting the farm on it. > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > President & CEO > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 11:27 AM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll BE the guinea pig.. No problem! But I need the total > > > > > responsiveness from MM to make it work. And I'm completely > willing > > > to > > > > > share my experiences and solutions with the CF community, so > that > > > they > > > > > can benefit from it. > > > > > > > > > > But.. (And there's ALWAYS a BIG BUT(T) somewhere! ) > Don't > > > ask me > > > > > for a credit card to do this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we cannot reproduce this in house, we cannot fix it. If it > is > > > not > > > > escalated through support, the likelihood of the problem getting > > > addressed > > > > is negligible. > > > > > > > > We can do comparisons all day long, however what it boils down > > > to is > > > > this: > > > > > > > > You and anyone else seeing this problem, need to contact > > > technical > > > > support. You need to allow them to get the information they need > to > > > point > > > > you to a solution. Yes, other people may have seen this problem, > but > > > so > > > > far, as far as I can tell, the problem seems like "CF Dies under > > > load". > > > > > > > > Well, we ran CFMX under load, for *weeks* before we shipped > it. > > > I > > > > know; I had to help out with it. > > > > > > > > We have supplied a clearly defined avenue to getting your > issues > > > > heard. The avenue is supported and maintained by Macromedia (ie: > not a > > > 3rd > > > > party mailing list, or a website) and this is the most efficient > > > method of > > > > issue resolution we have at the moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it perfect or foolproof? Is it final? No. Are we examining > it > > > and > > > > looking for ways of improving it? Yes. > > > > > > > > Right now however, that is the *best* method of getting an > issue > > > > resolved. > > > > > > > > -Jesse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | -Original Message- > > > > > | From: Scott Brader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > | Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 7:28 AM > > > > > | To: CF-Talk > > > > > | Subject: RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF! > > > > > | > > > > > | > > > > > | Before anyone else comments, yes, this probably should be a > > > > > | cf-community topic now. > > > > > | > > > > > | Jesse, > > > > > | I certainly see your point, however, as a developer and small > > > > > | business owner, there are financial c
RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
>Yes this is good advice and I personally took the launch of the Updater as >an equivalent to a service pack. Hence my starting eval of CFMX at this >stage. > >Dave Yeah but the "updater" totally screwed up my install (the ColdFusion MX ODBC Server). ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: QUestion about Input File and CFFILE
Brian, Here is the code I am using: function parseFileName(theFile) { var start = -1; while (theFile.value.indexOf("\\", start + 1) != -1) { start = theFile.value.indexOf("\\", start + 1); } FileUpload.action = FileUpload.action + theFile.value.substring(start+1, theFile.value.length); } Select your file Upload Then in fileupload.cfm I have: It is working for me. I hope this helps. Take care, Robert -- Original Message -- From: "Yager, Brian T Contractor/Sverdrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 15:11:09 -0500 >I am trying to upload a file using CFFILE. I can get it to wrok just fine. But >what I can't do is get the name of the file BEFORE I use CFFILE. When I try to >output the name of the file input box, I get some weird name with an extension >of .tmp. Can anyone help me with what I need please? > >Thanks, > >Brian Yager >President - North AL Cold Fusion Users Group >http://www.nacfug.com >Sr. Systems Analyst >Sverdrup/CIC >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >(256) 842-8342 > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> No, however it questions the validity of the statement. Also, > if you do in fact agree that you have communication problems, I haven't > seen you publicly apologize for any poor communication you've had with > anybody on any list. You seem to expect Macromedia to change its ways > but you still maintain your same ways. Is that fair? > I didn't agree; I simply chose to ignore. -Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Flash Remoting (was: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
> You've had a response to that - you just didn't like what you heard! > Come on now, that isn't true and you know it. Don't make me come after you with my IM logs. > The response is "Flash Remoting as supplied with CFMX Enterprise is > designed to enable Flash / ColdFusion communication". It is not > intended to enable Flash / Java communication. > And as I responded in IM, that isn't answer. Why? Because... 1. If that was true I could buy Flash Remoting for J2EE and use it with CFMX 2. If that was true then it would work with CFMX for J2EE sitting on top of JRun 4 3. If that was true then the license and the documentation would explicitly say it > Now, you may not like that answer and you may not agree with the > rationale behind it, but *did* get a response to that question! > It wasn't a response; it was a copout since you don't even know the rational behind it yourself. -Matt ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: LONG time CF Supporter - About ready to dump CF!
On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 08:32 US/Pacific, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: > Pardon me for asking but... how does MM handle a situation where > something > worked correctly on CF 5, but now is failing on CFMX? Is that CFMX? > Or do It could be user code, configuration or CFMX. There have definitely been examples of code that worked-by-accident on CF5 that doesn't work on CFMX - is that a bug? Not really... if the old code was never supposed to work, that was a bug in *CF5* and perhaps the rewrite fixed it. Now, if you built your application on that bug, thinking it was 'valid', then you'll be hurting with CFMX. Examples of configuration (to some degree): - The multiple SQL statements issue is a data source setup issue (use ODBC Socket instead of Microsoft SQL Driver or whatever it's called). It just happened to work with a particular CF5 driver but it wasn't intentional (despite Ben's 'hints & tips'). Change configuration and it solves the problem. Bear in mind also that the JDBC drivers are *third-party*, not Macromedia-developed. - Virtual site setup on IIS. It doesn't work out of the box, you need to run specific configuration to make it work. When you run the Updater, this also seems to be not covered by the standard install and you have to do additional stuff. Is this a bug? I'd say no but some folks will disagree. Are there real CFMX bugs? Of course. Were there real CF5 bugs? Yes. And 4.52 bugs and 4.01 bugs and so on and so on. This is why it's so critical to isolate a repeatable test that exhibits the questionable behavior. I know that's not always easy but it's a fact of life. As Jesse says, if we can't reproduce it, we can't debug it and if we can't debug it, we can't fix it! Case in point: my team has hit the Apache 1.3.26 process death problem. We couldn't reproduce it reliably, even tho' it happened regularly. We spent a lot of time trying to nail it down. No joy. Apache 2.0.39 does not suffer from this problem. Our solution: upgrade to Apache 2.0.39 and implement the two-tier Apache system (documented in my blog). Another case in point: my team hit a CLOB-related problem with the standard CFMX Oracle driver. Again, no reproducible test case. We moved to the 9i Thin Client and hit a different problem. We tried the 9i OCI driver and the problem went away. Now we have to finish rewriting the piece of code that actually relies on the base driver (it's Java, ironically). > I pay to have MM tell me I need to re-write code? See above. If we documented the change and you call it as a bug then, yes, sure you'll get charged (think of it as an "RTFM Tax") but if we didn't document it and you call it as a bug, it's free per Debbie's email. > This "connection reset > by peer" JDBC socket error that's been troubling us (notice I did not > say > "bugging" :) could well be the result of some server setting or SQL > config > option we have overlooked that ODBC/CF 5 ignores, but JDBC looks for. > If > that turns out to be the case, would MM charge for that? I'm with Vern on this - my feeling is that if you have to use one driver over another in order to solve this and WE DIDN'T DOCUMENT THAT, then it's a 'bug' of sorts and it should be free. "I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true - I no longer know how to use my telephone." -- Bjarne Stroustrup ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm