Re: Apache Axis Does Not Generate All Classes of Web Service
This is more than likely a schema problem. I've had this before with Axis/CF. Some schema in the WSDL lacks a defined name space and Axis just Throws the classes into the default package. Then when java tries to compile the generated .java file you get an error. Not sure how the command line works for wsdl2java(never used it) in maven(not recommended if you're not familiar with it) I define a default package and all works out in the end. Adam On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Donnie Carvajal < donnie.carva...@transformyx.com> wrote: > > I am having a problem with the NetSuite wsdl. There are stub class files > that are missing. I've seen some posts in some other forums indicating that > when the web service is setup through Coldfusion, there are class files > missing, but when wsdl2java is run from the command line, it works just > fine. > > Is anyone else experiencing this problem with any other web services? If > so, is there a fix or do I need to compile all wsdl classes from the command > line from here on out? > > Thanks, > > Donnie > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338598 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Query Var Disappears
You sure it is an issue with the CF version and not the SQL version? It seems odd that CF would treat SQL differently since it just passes it through. Typically when an obviously defined CF variable shows up undefined it is b/c something in Java is returning a NULL. Adam On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote: > > @ Bryan- > > The SELECT INTO insert query will work perfectly fine *as long as you're > not > also trying to grab the newly inserted ID*. As I stated previously, if the > SELECT INTO clause returns more than one record, the database will throw an > exception. If the SELECT INTO would not work, then it would not exist in > the SQL specification. :-) > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338594 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer part of the OpenCFML committee
I don't think it is that disappointing honestly. I do think we need to continue, as engine developers, to have a dialogue with each other.There doesn't need to be this ceremonious board to do it. We have a discussion group for conventional wisdom and things that need vetted could go there. We also have phones and email where we can collaborate, it is on the engine developers to be nice and courteous. If we're thinking about adding a tag or a feature we need to step up and reach out to the other engine makers and talk to them and get some feedback. That's easy for me to say being in the completely open source camp (even for us we could improve on this though) I understand if Adobe is working on something they don't want to get out too far they'd rather not talk to other engines. If an engine is looking at adding cfjavascript but not going to follow the conventional syntax OpenBD established a little phone call is a good idea. Same thing when OpenBD looks to implement CF9 features we should be following what has been set forth. Adam On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I find this to be a very disappointing development. I have no insight > into the politics behind this but I can definitely say that we are a > poorer community for this choice. > > http://www.adrocknaphobia.com/post.cfm/adobe-no-longer-part-of-opencfml > > I looked forward to being able to write applications to a spec and > have some confidence that they would run on multiple engines. It looks > like that will continue to be a dream. > > Judah > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335655 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer part of the OpenCFML committee
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: > > If the OpenBD team claims it is not organized enough to submit ideas then > they are most likely not organized enough to release a new version of OpenBD > and certainly not organized enough to be innovative. This is unfortunate > since the commercial version of BlueDragon used to be innovative. > Could I see a link where this is claimed, by an OpenBD person and not purported by someone else? I'd just like to understand where this is coming from since to date we have had timely releases and are delivering point releases every few months (we shoot for 6ish months per release). I'm open to criticism and would be more than interested in your, or other's, feedback but blindly saying OpenBD is not organized is libelous. Adam ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 Developer Edition and Verity?
It might be worth noting that Verity support is going to get dropped at some point in the future, you might want to investigate using Solr instead of Verity. Adam On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Rob Barthle wrote: > > Thank you to everyone, especially Dave. I have it working. > > Solution posted here: > http://www.barthle.com/blog/post.cfm/what-i-learned-today-have-your-cf9-on-os-x-and-your-verity-too > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:333560 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion
Yeah I actually state contrary to that earlier i nthe thread. I'd not used the web GUI that H2 offered. All you need to do is double click the H2 jar if you have that enabled on the system or execute h2.jar from the command line. Adam On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, denstar wrote: > > H2 comes with an GUI deal, like most these kinds of DBs do. Even a > servlet based deal! Wow! > > I'm pretty sure someone even said what to do to fire up the H2 console > deal, previously in this thread. > > The docs for h2 are fine, just fine-- you might want to take a look at 'em. > > Here's a "feeling lucky" type of link: > > http://www.h2database.com/html/tutorial.html > > The docs are clear and clean, and worked, even-- I set up h2 in like > 10 minutes the other day. 5 min of it was reading. > > But I love reading. > > -- > We are one, after all, you and I, together we suffer, together exist > and forever will recreate each other. > Teilhard de Chardin > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > > > > I may have spoken too soon Arslan > > > > I managed to get to the connection details in DBVisulaizer and now I see > > there is no database type of H2 (HSQLDB is there). I double checked > > Aqua Data Studio and again...no database type of H2. > > > > Both apps have generic database types, so perhaps that may work. > > > > Of course I would assume that the Railo folks could point you in the > > right direction. I sure hope H@ can be administered via some sort of > > GUII for one can't stand doing all my DB admin with SQL > > alonetakes FOREVER ;-) > > > > Cheers > > - > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > phone: 250.480.0642 > > fax: 250.480.1264 > > cell: 250.920.8830 > > e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com > > web: www.electricedgesystems.com > > > > Notice: > > This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain > > information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended > > only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized > > otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please > > notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this > > message and attachments. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:327043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: cfquery timeout doesn't work out on jdbc driver
Run it in a thread with CFthread and put a timeout on the cfjoin. Adam On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Vamsi Pappu wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a situation here where cfquery doesn't seem to be performing well on > jdbc driver, when I read in forums it was clearly mentioned that cfquery > timeout doesn't support some drivers, Is there any another alternate to > this. > > My requirement is no matter what happens, if query is not responding in > given amount of time then it should timeout.Can anyone suggest a good > advice. > > Thanks, > Vamsi > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:327036 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion
Oh no, it was much more being lumped into the following crowd sheep type people than being associated with Railo. Most of the stinky Railo folks are my friends ;) Adam On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Bryan Stevenson < br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote: > > Thanks Adam! > > ...and not too terseI just like people to back up what they say. > > "better" is fairly subjective ;-) > > > Those are some good pointsfull-text indexing is a big plus for sure! > > BTWyou can use Aqua Data Studio and DBVisualizer (I prefer the > latter as it's interface is well...betterhehe) with Derby.so I'm > sure they'd work with H2. > > and lastly.sorry about the Railo commentnothing behind > thatjust found that many folks seem to accept what others sayand > Railo was mentioned in a way that made it sound like "if they use it it > must be better". > > Bear in mind I am not fully aware of who is involved with Railo and > OpenBD (I assume someone named Matt isperhaps that's Matt > Woodward).I just know there are/were a lot of ruffled feathers in > both camps over some seemingly childish things (from the few blog posts > I read) ;-) My apologies if you are one of those that was ruffled. > > Anywaysthanks for the insightI will probably port one of my > Derby DBs over to H2 and see how it goes. > > Cheers > > - > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > phone: 250.480.0642 > fax: 250.480.1264 > cell: 250.920.8830 > e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com > web: www.electricedgesystems.com > > Notice: > This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain > information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended > only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized > otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please > notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this > message and attachments. > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:326990 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion
If you just create the DB with Railo, I think at that point you can just run SQL statements against it in a CFM file, you could also take the database out of the embedded mode and connect to it with something like Aquadata studio, or DB visualizer and admin it etc. As it stands when created in Railo in embeded mode the only user is Railo, nothing else can connect to it. Adam On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Arsalan Tariq Keen wrote: > > Hey Adam... > > you seem experienced with H2... > is there any tutorial for H2 and Railo...?? > I mean ... I have created the database in the Server Admin ... but what > next... > how to access my database via console? > how to create users...tables...etc > > I am lost ... and its 3:25 AM in my part of the world :$ > > ------ > From: "Adam Haskell" > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:18 AM > To: "cf-talk" > Subject: Re: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion > > > > > Sorry too terse I for you I suppose :) > > > > From my perspective it is a more active project. It has more > compatibility > > with other engine dialects (for example mysql). It has better stability > > than > > derby. If i recall the footprint is even smaller than derby (not that > this > > matters much). It has a memory mode if you dare choose that (I would not > > for > > production, we got bit bigtime by HS SQL with that once upon a time). It > > also provides full text searching, big win for me. > > > > As for management tools, it is just like any other small DB engine, its > > just > > a jar the management tools is a good ole SQL DDL, but hey you can pretty > > much take MySQL manager and generate DDLs and run them on H2 so yeah I > > guess > > it has better management tools too. It also has ODBC so it can interface > > with more tools if you have some old ODBC tools. > > > > And because I take particular exception to your innuendo here: > > > > Better because the Railo folks say so? > >> > > > > Personally I back a fully open source CFML engine instead of Railo. Matt > > did > > some work very early on to emded h2 actually it was Matt that introduced > > me > > to H2. > > > > Adam > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Bryan Stevenson < > > br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote: > > > >> > >> On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 16:27 -0400, Adam Haskell wrote: > >> > Use H2, it is better and bundled with Railo. > >> > > >> > Adam > >> > >> Care to elaborate Adam? ;-) > >> > >> Why is it "better" than Derby in your opinion? > >> > >> Better performance? > >> > >> Better management tools available? > >> > >> Better because the Railo folks say so? > >> > >> I'd love to know > >> > >> Cheers > >> - > >> > >> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > >> > > > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:326988 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion
Sorry too terse I for you I suppose :) >From my perspective it is a more active project. It has more compatibility with other engine dialects (for example mysql). It has better stability than derby. If i recall the footprint is even smaller than derby (not that this matters much). It has a memory mode if you dare choose that (I would not for production, we got bit bigtime by HS SQL with that once upon a time). It also provides full text searching, big win for me. As for management tools, it is just like any other small DB engine, its just a jar the management tools is a good ole SQL DDL, but hey you can pretty much take MySQL manager and generate DDLs and run them on H2 so yeah I guess it has better management tools too. It also has ODBC so it can interface with more tools if you have some old ODBC tools. And because I take particular exception to your innuendo here: Better because the Railo folks say so? > Personally I back a fully open source CFML engine instead of Railo. Matt did some work very early on to emded h2 actually it was Matt that introduced me to H2. Adam On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Bryan Stevenson < br...@electricedgesystems.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 16:27 -0400, Adam Haskell wrote: > > Use H2, it is better and bundled with Railo. > > > > Adam > > Care to elaborate Adam? ;-) > > Why is it "better" than Derby in your opinion? > > Better performance? > > Better management tools available? > > Better because the Railo folks say so? > > I'd love to know > > Cheers > - > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:326985 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion
Use H2, it is better and bundled with Railo. Adam On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Arsalan Tariq Keen wrote: > > Sorry guys... I know I shouldn't ask this question here but guys at Railo > Mailing list have failed to answer my query. I want to use Derby with > Railo... can anyone help me set it up?? plz!!! > > -- > From: "Allen Souliere" > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:30 AM > To: "cf-talk" > Subject: Re: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion > > > > > Oracle XE may not exceed 4 GB. If this is a limitation, then it is not > > suitable. Also, I believe it requires full installation. Derby runs > > out of the box quite easily and has a very small footprint. > > > > Allen > > > > I. Addoum. wrote: > >> best choice would be Oracle XE (it's free) > >> > >> regards > >> Bob > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Arsalan Tariq Keen > >> To: cf-talk > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 7:49:56 AM > >> Subject: Free Database Enginer for ColdFusion > >> > >> > >> Hi fellows, > >> > >> does anyone know of a lightweight free database engine that I can bundle > >> with my applications for small and medium size businesses? > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> Arsalan > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:326982 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released
Hey more power to you if you get the job done with an older version. I am fortunate enough to work in an environment where we are progesive enough to need the new features like caching, speed increases, Excel integration, server monitoring, and multithreading support. Adam On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:22 PM, David Long wrote: > > Spit out the silver spoons--you're talking to someone who lives in the real > world. My upgrades are paid for out of my design earnings. Unless an > upgrade > is going to earn money for me, it's a downgrade. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [mailto:w...@hothorse.com] > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 4:51 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released > > > > Nope - not just you. 8 and now 9 especially have had some great new > features > that make it well worth while. And if you buy with a subscription, you get > the upgrades over 2(?) years free. > > W > > > -Original Message- > From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] > Sent: 05 October 2009 22:49 > To: cf-talk > Subject: Re: CF 9 and CF Builder Beta 2 released > > > For some odd reason I look forward to each new release. But that is just > me. > > FWIIW > From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ColdFusion > > * 1995 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 1.0 > * 1996 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 1.5 > * 1996 : Allaire Cold Fusion version 2.0 > * 1997-Jun : Allaire Cold Fusion version 3.0 > * 1998-Jan : Allaire Cold Fusion version 3.1 > * 1998-Nov : Allaire ColdFusion version 4.0 (space eliminated between Cold > and Fusion to make it ColdFusion) > * 1999-Nov : Allaire ColdFusion version 4.5 > * 2001-Jun : Macromedia ColdFusion version 5.0 > * 2002-May : Macromedia ColdFusion MX version 6.0 (build 6,0,0,48097), > Updater 1 (build 6,0,0,52311), Updater 2 (build 6,0,0,55693), Updater 3 > (build 6,0,0,58500) > * 2003-Jul : Macromedia ColdFusion MX version 6.1 (build 6,1,0,63958), > Updater 1 (build 6,1,0,83762) > * 2005 : Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 (build 7,0,0,91690), 7.0.1 (build > 7,0,1,116466), 7.0.2 (build 7,0,2,142559) > * 2007-Jul-30 : Adobe ColdFusion 8 (build 8,0,0,176276) > * 2008-Apr-04 : Adobe ColdFusion 8.0.1 (build 8,0,1,195765) > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:326940 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: WSDL vs. ODBC
They may be up more often but you have more network hops and more breaking points. If you put your Database outside the internal network, I think net result would be a less reliable RDBMS Adam On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > Salesforce and Netsuite both have a web services API. I am trying to > > gauge impacts involved with switching from a system that uses ODBC to a > > cloud based system. If a web service is faster and/or more reliable > > than ODBC, then that helps me to make a case for the cloud. > > I doubt it'll be either. Web services are an abstraction layer between > applications and databases. However, hosting your databases in the > cloud may make those databases more reliable. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325808 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: WSDL vs. ODBC
It will be slower, reliability will also be lower when compared to ODBC if that is all behind the firewall. Security is also a lot harder with SOAP/WSDL and much more varied. Adam On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Billy Cox wrote: > > Salesforce and Netsuite both have a web services API. I am trying to > gauge impacts involved with switching from a system that uses ODBC to a > cloud based system. If a web service is faster and/or more reliable > than ODBC, then that helps me to make a case for the cloud. > > John M Bliss wrote: > > I'm still not sure I understand but, ignoring that for a sec, have you > > determined that salesforce.com / netsuite offer API's that'd allow you > to > > "touch" their systems via WSDL and ODBC? If so, I'd ask salesforce.com/ > > netsuite which is faster. > > > > Typically, WSDL / webservices are good for touching "cloud systems." > > > > Typically (at least, in my experience), ODBC is not available for > touching > > "cloud systems." That is, "cloud systems" don't allow you to touch them > via > > ODBC. But I suppose it's possible...? > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Billy Cox > wrote: > > > > > >> It would be in the context of syncing a local app server with a cloud > >> system like salesforce.com or netsuite. > >> > >> > >> John M Bliss wrote: > >> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Services_Description_Language versus > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Database_Connectivity ? In what > >>> > >> context > >> > >>> are you comparing those two? > >>> > >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Billy Cox >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > Has anyone here had a chance to evaluate system performance and > reliability of WSDL versus ODBC? > > -Billy Cox > > > > > > > >>> > >> > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325807 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: undefinedCircuit error in FB55 app
Hey sorry I don't monitor cf-talk much, you might check the Fusebox5 Yahoo groups. You are getting that error because the defaultFuseaction references a circuit of m, if Fusebox can not find it you get that error. Chances are your move to the subdirectory resulted in a slight issue with the directory layout, which is how Implicit Circuits are discovered. What is your diretory structure like now, and possibly more importantly where is Application.cfc located relative to your m directory? Adam On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Joe Tseng wrote: > > I'm trying to roll out my app and I was asked to put it in a subfolder > within a main webroot directory. I'm currently getting this error: > == > This is the template "errortemplates/fusebox.undefinedCircuit.cfm" > An Error of type "fusebox.undefinedCircuit" has occured > undefined Circuit > > You specified a Circuit of m which is not defined. > == > > During my development my app lived in its own webroot. > > I perused through the source code and it seems like I would only get that > if I was using XML but I've got my app set to use implicit circuits. > > Here are some of my params: > FUSEBOX_PARAMETERS.mode = "production"; > FUSEBOX_PARAMETERS.debug = false; > FUSEBOX_PARAMETERS.allowImplicitFusebox = true; > FUSEBOX_PARAMETERS.defaultFuseaction = "m.welcome"; > > tia, > > - Joe > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325068 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Wow Darryl really mailed it on that one. Let's just take a bunch of quotes and string them together. Good job witting the article for him Adam. Adam On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov < george.e...@ssa.gov> wrote: > > > http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-ColdFusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5 > > George > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:324517 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion SME
Probably Subject Matter Expert, but at the end of the day it is real easy to find out. Just ask the person that said it. :) Adam On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Pranathi Reddy wrote: > > Alright.. too many guessing and thats for all for the response. I really > dont know which one would be right.. Let me quote you where it was used and > how it was used... May be this can help us to guess the right one... > > One of my friends were applying for Coldfusion position and a person told > her that they should need a 'Coldfusion SME candidate that are local to > Alabama' . Those were the exacty quote in the brackets... > > I am assuming may be he is looking for a person who is expertise in > Coldfusion... is that right? > > Pranathi. > > >David McGuigan said the following on 7/8/2009 11:12 PM: > > > >> PHP developer 2: "Eff my life." > > > >So, what is the meaning of "Eff"? > >(this can go on and on...) > > > >-- > >Best regards, > > > >Chris Montgomery > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:324380 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: DSN is Saving CF Query Ops to Wrong Database?
Point of clarification Jrun (app server) can have multiple ColdFusion deployments (WARs or EARs) and while they share the same JVM they are separate. In other words, you could have CF Instance 1 with an application named MyApp and a cf instance 2 with an application named MyApp and they would not share anything in Application Scope (or Server scope for that matter). The only case where this is not entirely true, as far as I am aware, is in WebSphere and that is a slighly different beast with how WAS is setup. Adam Haskell On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > > > > > Would that be any different than using: > > > > > > Yes, those are two different things. The first creates a variable in > the Application scope. The second creates a property of the > application.cfc instance. > > > Also, to clarify, the "separate" Coldfusion servers for Dev and Test are > separate > > instances upon the same JRun, so some kind of variable scope "leakage" > might make > > sense. > > What exactly do you mean by "separate instances upon the same JRun"? > If you mean that you have separate JRun instances, they should not > share memory at all - each should be represented by a separate Windows > service (assuming you're running Windows). If, on the other hand, > you've deployed multiple CF WARs to the same JRun server - and I'm not > sure that's even possible - they would share memory. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:324306 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Application Scope Problem
It has nothing to do with Application scope and everything to do with poorly written code, sorry to be blunt but that's the issue. As was said all variables you that you want to be local to that method need to be var'ed. Currently you are not doing this so those variables are bleeding out of the method's variable scope (which lives and dies with each call to the method) and getting into the Object's scope (which lives and dies with the application since the Object is stored on the Application scope). Again this is not an issue with putting the object on the Application scope it is an issue with how the variables are defined in the method. Adam On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Paul Alkema wrote: > > Has anyone else experienced this issue before with the application scope? > So > if I ripped this out of the application scope you think it the issue I am > having would be fixed correct? > > Also, please explain what you mean by ensuring that the arguments > parameters > aren't "sticky"? > > Do you mean referencing the scope in the cfargument tag? > > Like... > > > Instead of... > > > > > Thanks! > -Original Message- > From: Jason Fisher [mailto:ja...@wanax.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:42 PM > To: cf-talk > Subject: RE: Application Scope Problem > > > Completely agree with Brad. Also wouldn't hurt to ensure that the > arguments parameters aren't sticky, by referencing the scope of 'language' > and 'placeholder' as appropriate. > > hint="Returns the text found for the given language and placeholder"> > > > > > > > > > > >SELECT content >FROM translations >WHERE lang = value="#arguments.language#"> >AND placeholder = value="#arguments.placeholder#"> > > > > > 'EN') > > >SELECT content >FROM translations >WHERE lang = 'EN' >AND placeholder = value="#arguments.placeholder#"> > > > > > > > > >", > arguments[varName])> > > > > > > > > > From: b...@bradwood.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 3:38 PM > To: "cf-talk" > Subject: RE: Application Scope Problem > > Do you think this could have anything to do with the fact that this > function > is being stored in the application scope? > > === > > Yes, it has everything to do with that. You need to var EVERY variable > used in that function. Otherwise it is shared by everyone calling your > code at the exact same time > > getTranslation and varName need to be varred like so at the top of the > function. > > ~Brad > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:323725 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: BOLT!
I think this is a fairly closed minded view on things. No offense but if you look at other loosely typed dynamic languages like groovy the IDE support for it (IDEA) is very impressive.Or something slightly more close to ColdFusion like Ruby also has some very impressive support. That being said, this is the first gen IDE from Adobe, I wouldn't expect much more than cfEclipse. I'm not saying Adobe can't/won't deliver I just think having too high expectations for a First Gen product is irrsponsible to myself and not fair to a company. Adam On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > That, and the fact that the tools for other platforms/languages like > Java, .Net > > and Flex for that matter, run circles around the current CF IDE > offerings. > > Well, I don't think that's going to change entirely. CF is different > from Java, .NET and Flex, in that it's compiled when it's first run > and it's loosely typed. The nice things (to me) about working in those > other environments is that there is a distinct separation between > compile time and run time, so my IDE can help me in ways that wouldn't > be possible with a loosely-typed language that doesn't get compiled > prior to runtime. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321779 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Deploying a Coldfusion8 app over free & simpler J2EE server?
Just a thought, have you downloaded it and tried it for 10 minutes? My guess is if you have you would know. Personal preference is Tomcat but it's not a full blown App server so it may not cut it, I'm guessing it would for you though. Co-worker of mine like Geronimo, personally I like Glassfish. Adam On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Don L wrote: > > Has anyone done that? Jboss seems a promising one, is configuration messy? > how does its JDBC driver work easily with setting up a datasource? > > And the Apache Geronimo seems interesting as well... > > Also, my objective is programmatic configuration for all. > > Many thanks. > > Don > Chunshen Li > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321546 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Java now available on Google App engine - how long til CFML?
http://groups.google.com/group/openbd/browse_thread/thread/a9da36320b64d5d6 :-D That being said it's worth mentioning that without large amounts of re-engineering Railo and ColdFusion will have a harder time running in the AppEngine mostly due to how they compile CFML. Adam On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Brad Wood wrote: > > From: "Barney Boisvert" > > Out of the box, I doubt any of the CFML engines follow the AppEngine > > rules, > > While I think it would be cool to run CFML on Google's App engine, I think > one of the major hurdles would be files system access. Log files, temp > directories, and even cached class files would all have to be refactored. > And according to the docs, any running program wouldn't even be allowed to > open a socket connection. > > http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.html > "For instance, bytecode that attempts to open a socket or write to a file > will throw a runtime exception" > > I think you'd have to use all of Google's APIs to do all that stuff. > CFMAIL > would be out in favor of the JavaMail API. Seems like a lot of that would > be a step backwards from the basic stuff ColdFusion already does for us. > Either way, unless Adobe REALLY wanted to rearrange CF to fit that mold, I > think an open source project like Railo or OpenBD would have to take up the > mantle of making a CFML engine that followed the Googles App sandbox rules. > > ~Brad > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion - facts
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:44 PM, BobSharp wrote: > > Need some facts for a Report > a.. Are there any disadvantages in using Coldfusion for a web-based > shopping catalogue ? > Depends on what you think is a disadvantage. For example the CFML developer base is growing but it is still considerably smaller than say the Java developer base. That being said the skill set you are looking for could still be more readily available in the CFML community. Long story short is you may see that as a disadvantage you may not. From a technology perspective nah. > > b.. Does CF replace ASP, Javascript/VBscript and flatfiles ? You'll want to learn the difference between client side and server side. That being said ASP.NET goes a bit out of the way to try and confuse that issue as much as possible and to an extent ColdFusion (and other CFML engines to a lesser extent) has done the same thing. The short answer is CF replaces the need for ASP and generates a good deal of Javascript for you. VBscript from a web perspective is a bad idea and CF is web based. Flatfiles was described well by others. c.. Is there a dependancy between Coldfusion and MySQL ? > Nope. ColdFusion connects to Databases via JDBC it ships with drivers for MySQL, MS SQL, Derby, among others. Hope that gets you pointed in the right direction. Try some google searches ;) Adam ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321167 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Railo 3.1 Open Source beta released
Looks like someone jumped the gun without reading the entire thread :-/ sorry. Adam 2009/3/31 Adam Haskell > Not true Gerald, not true at all. GPL software can be used as much as you > want it just can not be distributed. In order to distribute an application > leveraging GPL licensed software your license must be compatible. Your below > statment is totally inaccurate. > > Adam > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321157 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Railo 3.1 Open Source beta released
Yep, you have multiple options in this respect, Adobe ColdFusion, Open BlueDragon, Railo, BlueDragon.Net. All with varying compatibility and costs, OpenBD and Railo are free. OpenBD is completely free and Railo is mostly free (the core is free, add ons will cost $). Both open source options have support contracts available if desired. Adam On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Claude Schneegans < schneeg...@internetique.com> wrote: > > In simple terms: can I install Railo on a server and use it to run CF > apps for customers > who will pay for it? > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321156 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Railo 3.1 Open Source beta released
Not true Gerald, not true at all. GPL software can be used as much as you want it just can not be distributed. In order to distribute an application leveraging GPL licensed software your license must be compatible. Your below statment is totally inaccurate. Adam On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: > > > > > Can the free version be used commercially ? > > Or is the soft free, but you have to buy licenses? ;-) > > > > It was free before. As far as rolling it into commercial apps... I am not > all that sure on the licencing issues. You would have to ask Gert. ;o) > > > The important part for me is that it is LGPL which means ppl can roll a CF > runtime into commercial offerings with out having to open source their > apps. > I am not a big fan of GPL because if ppl use GPL apps on any internal apps > such as intranets that handle a lot internal business processes (Read: The > internal workings of their business), they would have to open source thier > entire intranet. That can be a "very bad thing" for a business. > > I for one welcome our new CF LGPL Overlords. > > G! > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Claude Schneegans < > schneeg...@internetique.com> wrote: > > > > > I think it wasn't free before. > > > > Can the free version be used commercially ? > > Or is the soft free, but you have to buy licenses? ;-) > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321155 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: uml modelling tool
Project size is a relative thing so it is hard to judge what it is you really want. Personally I've used Star UML with limited success and would not recommend it for anything more than 10 classes a few packages and couple sequence diagrams . Right now quite a few I work with prefer NetBeans over Star, note NetBeans is much more than just UML and is also OS. Argo and Poseidon are ok but I've found NetBeans to be more enjoyable to work with overall. If you are interested in a nicer work flow for day to day use and are already using Eclipse (guessing not since OS is not preferred) you might check out MyEclipse Enteprise, its UML tools are fairly nice and easy to use. If you are an IBM shop check out your licenses for RAD and see if you have access to their UMLing tools. They are by far some of the nicest I've tinkered with but they are not reasonably priced enough to be worth it for UML alone. One final suggestion if you have a team to coordinate with (and by tram I mean much more than just developers like Enterprise Architects and Data Architects and other folks that like to think they are important) check out SparxSystems their UML tools are top notch, really nice to work with and the associated work flows and integration is pretty nice. End of the day, bar napkins and pictures on white boards are where 90% of our design comes from (and I am talking all projects in my company not just CF projects). I'd invest in large white board in everyone's work area's before I ever invested in a tool. Actual UML from a tool just records it in a readable manner. The reason I point this out is sometimes I see folks talking about not finding a UML tool that is easy enough to use during design sessions, you aren't going to it just isn't practical most of the time. Find a tool that you can manage and you find easy enough to share the contents. For me that is probably NetBeans right now. Adam On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Richard White wrote: > > hi > > Can anyone give suggestions on good UML Modelling tools for small to medium > sized projects. we don't mind cost as we dont really like open source > products > > thanks for your suggestions > > richard > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:321075 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: FFMpeg & FlowPlayer
Note however Railo will only be offering the videoplayer free. The video tag will not be free, or at least that is what the current information out there says. Adam On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:09 PM, AJ Mercer wrote: > > Just to let people know Railo has cfvideo and cfvideoplayer tags > > > http://www.railo.ch/blog/index.cfm/2008/9/30/Railo-30-released--Features-part-III--Multimedia > > cfvideo uses ffmpeg under the hood > > 2009/3/25 Jordan Michaels > > > > > I know this isn't what you're asking, but I figured you may be > > interested in knowing about it since you're working on this sort of > > thing already: > > > > The next production version of Open BlueDragon will contain this > > functionality in a tag. Here's a blog post on the subject: > > > > http://blog.openbluedragon.org/cfvideoplayer.htm > > > > The nightly builds also contain this feature so the functionality can be > > tested and improved (if you have feature requests). > > > > Warm regards, > > Jordan Michaels > > Vivio Technologies > > http://www.viviotech.net/ > > Open BlueDragon Steering Committee > > Adobe Solution Provider > > > > > > William Seiter wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been working on this for a few days now and haven't got a clue > on > > how > > > to continue. I was hoping that someone out there has some knowledge of > > this > > > and can help me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am building a video upload process that translates video into Flash. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using a simple form to upload the video. > > > > > > I am using FFmpeg (cfexecute) to translate the video to flash. The > video > > > file then exists, but I am unable to play it in flowplayer, or any > other > > flv > > > player that I have downloaded and installed. > > > > > > In my research, I found that FFMpeg used to have a problem where it > would > > > not add metatags to the file, and could cause a problem that way, so I > > > installed flvtool2. I now run the flvtool2 on the file after I am done > > with > > > ffmpeg conversion. When I do this on the command-line on the server, > it > > > appears to work very quickly, but the end file still doesn't get called > > by > > > flowplayer. (I get a 200, file not found). When I do this > > programmatically > > > through cfexecute, the process times out. (my current timeout is set > to > > 30 > > > minutes). > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone have any ideas of how I might fix this? I am on a windows > server, > > I > > > have the most recent build of ffmpeg from > > > http://ffmpeg.arrozcru.org/builds/, and we are running CF8. > > > > > > > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > William E. Seiter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320904 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Java Training: moving from CF to Java
I know this is going off into a different area but there is also a big overhead that ColdFusion (note not all CFML engines are this "bad") adds to a request. Give a servlet and cfm page that creates the same domain object of the servlet (the java object on both sides and I was not using Mark's Java loader the jar was on the classpath) the servlet consistently returns in <100ms (that's round trip to local host). The cfm upon server startup could take up-to 2000ms but typically at it's fastest I saw 500ms when I ran webLoader on it. Let me put this in perspective though, there was no database interaction no CFC objects and everything was self contained in a single jar. In a real world application you will have CFCs (not a bad thing) and database interactions the network ltency and speed of the DBMS will affect your application as much as the CFML engine will. Some of us get real caught up in these domain model talks and making full blow "correct" OO architecture. Reality is if you want that then CF is not, has not and will never be the appropriate tool to model your business in. Can CFML provide a wonderful UI layer for HTML based or quick service fronting of a complex domain yes it can and does so very nicely in many respects. I'll also disagree with the comment that groovy is magnitudes slower, from my personal tests groovy is not magnitudes slower...noticeable maybe but not magnitudes. Now back to the training, there is a rather dated book called Java for ColdFusion Developers pick it up pretty good reading, I also recommend Thinking in Java for folks starting out as well. I also think Hal Helms offers training so you might ping him and inquire. The whole XML XSLT thing is a bit odd to me but hey to each thier own, I would recommend looking at something like tapestry or velocity before trying to use straight XML and XSLT (or hell if $ is the issue switch to OpenBD or Railo and use them as the UI layer only). Adam H On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Jaime Metcher < jaime.metc...@medeserv.com.au> wrote: > > > > > I'd want to see some pretty solid benchmarks before I > > believed that the Java written by CF is 200 times slower than > > the Java written by a random programmer. > > The 200 times difference comes from my own comparison of the same domain > model implemented idiomatically in both ColdFusion/ColdSpring/Transfer and > Java/Spring/Hibernate. Similar experiments conducted by colleagues give > similar results. Mark Drew did some testing with a totally different > scenario, but the results are in the same ballpark. > > Not sure why you'd find this surprising. Java code to solve a given > problem > isn't remotely similar to the bytecode that CF spits out for the same > problem, unless that problem happens to be interpreting a dynamic language. > The fact that they are both "Java" is far less significant than the fact > that one is dynamic and the other static. There have been similar results > from comparisons of Jruby and Java, and Groovy and Java. We're not talking > about 20% or 50% performance differences, we're talking about orders of > magnitude. > > Jaime > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320430 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF 8 developer/IPSec/VSClient Problem
I think dave was asking exactly what you are looking for, he was asking if you turn off all the CF 8 related services if it was working. A very good question but not to helpful if you don't know what to turn off ;) . Things that may conflict would be cf8 service itself (doubtful but who knows) the .Net Service (maybe ColdFusionDotNetService or something like that) that CF 8 now has (most likely culprit) and a verity service (probably not but it has been updated since MX so possible). I don't have cf8 installed this way on a windows box anywhere so I can not provide the exact service names but pretty sure they all have ColdFusion in the name or some sort of identifier as being related to CF8. Adam On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Roger Dear wrote: > > > > I connect via IPSec to VPN into one intranet and tunnel into a > > second intranet via VSClient. > > > With CF MX developer all is fine. After installing CF 8 developer I > > can no longer VSClient > > > tunnel into second intranet. Any suggestions? > > > > Does your VPN client work when you turn off the CF service and related > > services? > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more > information! > Dave - > > I'm not sure I know how to answer your question. I do not have any > configured web servers. I am able to VPN into the first intranet at all > times. CF 8 works fine on localhost. It's the VSClient tunnel to the second > intranet that bombs out. The behavior seems specific to CF 8 - since I > happily coexisted for years with CF MX. Is there something I can turn off > that will prevent the networking conflict? > Thanks for replying. Roger Dear > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:320342 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Learning Fusebox 5.5 -- Seeking guidance / mentor
And apparently I might John's email :) Adam On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:08 PM, John M Bliss wrote: > > Assuming you're not opposed to books, www.protonarts.com (when the site's > working :-( ) has two books you should purchase: "Fusebox 5 & FLiP: > Master-Class ColdFusion Applications" and "How to Drive Fusebox 5.5" both > by > Jeff Peters (www.grokfusebox.com). > > Other Fusebox resources to bookmark and/or subscribe to, in order of > usefulness to me: > > 1. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fusebox5/ > 2. http://www.fusebox.org/forums/ > 3. Blogs: > http://fusebox.org/go/fusebox-community/community-resources/blogs > 4. Sites: > http://fusebox.org/go/fusebox-community/community-resources/web-sites > 5. Training: > http://fusebox.org/go/fusebox-community/community-resources/training > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Joel Polsky wrote: > > > > > I've been searching around and there seems to be limited tutorials on FB > > 5.5 -- there's quite a bit on 4.x -- and the references in the 5.x say > that > > the 4.0 tutorials and code samples "for the most part also work with > Fusebox > > 5" - which is scary as I don't know what will and won't work and how to > > tell, as it's ALL NEW to me! > > > > Can someone point me to a site that has GOOD tutorials for a newbie in > the > > Fusebox world. I need basic understanding of the framework, where stuff > > goes, what it does, and where I put my stuff so it works. (Also how to > make > > the friendly url's!) > > > > Thanks in Advance!! > > > > Joel > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318815 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Learning Fusebox 5.5 -- Seeking guidance / mentor
Fusebox 4 - > 5 is almost always the same, just don't stray off the beaten path (like making your own lexicons or plugins) and you will be fine. Fusebox 5 was sort of like ColdFusion 5 -> 6 Complete rewrite with a couple of tweak an addtions. The current version 5.5.x introduce some implicit circuits and what nots (the release notes do a fairly adequate job explaining that). As for a tutorials I am working on a couple of things right now (contrary to what the site says I am the lead developer of Fusebox now, I really need to get that changed ehh?) others will most likely have some advice and check out the sample apps on Fusebox.org as well as the skelton app that is packed up. As for mentoring check out our yahoo group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fusebox5/ It's fairly active and folks on there are a great help. Other resources: http://www.fuseboxframework.org/go/fusebox-downloads/sample-applications http://trac.fuseboxframework.org/fusebox/ http://www.fuseboxipedia.com/index.cfm http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/fusebox5/ (again :) ) There are also various blogs around with good articles about fusebox, my own being http://cfrant.blogspot.com. Adam Haskell On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Joel Polsky wrote: > > I've been searching around and there seems to be limited tutorials on FB > 5.5 -- there's quite a bit on 4.x -- and the references in the 5.x say that > the 4.0 tutorials and code samples "for the most part also work with Fusebox > 5" - which is scary as I don't know what will and won't work and how to > tell, as it's ALL NEW to me! > > Can someone point me to a site that has GOOD tutorials for a newbie in the > Fusebox world. I need basic understanding of the framework, where stuff > goes, what it does, and where I put my stuff so it works. (Also how to make > the friendly url's!) > > Thanks in Advance!! > > Joel > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:318814 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: java package name on cfinvoke of web service
FYI Axis that is shipped with ColdFusion is 1.2.X the latest is 1.4 the one in CF is markedly older regardless of the creation or modified date... Adam On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM, sam Detweiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Before heading down that route, I've found (especially with .NET services) > >that updating to the latest version of axis 1.4 (do not get axis 2) has > >fixed the majority of the issues. > > > >Adam > > > > > > Thanks.. the latest axis code is dated 4/22/06, while the code in the cf > 8.01 lib is dated 2/27/07. I recreated the problem (and the solution) with > the latest axis code before posting, sorry I didn't add that note. > > this is basically a design flaw in the cfinvoke implementation for web > services and complex data objects. web services explorer handled it > perfectly. I can write my own cfc wrappers for the generated classes, but > what a pain. One parm is all it takes.. and use that on the object creation > under the covers.. (same as I will have to do to reimplement the cfinvoke > code).. > > > Sam > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316610 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: java package name on cfinvoke of web service
Before heading down that route, I've found (especially with .NET services) that updating to the latest version of axis 1.4 (do not get axis 2) has fixed the majority of the issues. Give that a shot and see how it goes, the last version has passed all our regression tests internally. Adobe would not agree to give us the 100% green light but there is in as an ER to get Axis updated (axis 1.2 is shipped in CF) Basically they said if we ran into an issues with web sevices we'd have to replicate the issue with the original jar first (no biggie really). http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/ws/axis/1_4 Adam On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:27 AM, sam Detweiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to connect to a web service with CF 8.01. the cfinvoke tag > invokes wsdl2java as expected, but the emitted java code cannot be compiled > as is, missing an import statement in the 'holder' classes for the complex > data types defined by the wsdl. > > I can manually emit code with wsdl2java by adding the -p package_name parm, > and modifying the holder classes to include the appropriate import > statement. BUT CF continues to emit new java code on every invocation, even > tho refreshWSDL=NO is set (and is the default).. > > anyone have any good ideas how to > 1. pass the package name thru cfinvoke, > 2. get the holder classes with the right code, > 3. keep CF from regening the java > 4. tell cf the package name on the classes to use for later calls.. > > thanks.. > > Sam > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316589 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: What IDEs are folks using?
I just barfed in my mouth, really I did. Who in their right mind would willingly use any of IBM's irrational software??? The only, ONLY, compelling reason to use that over stuffed bastardized step cousin of Eclipse is if you have to, HAVE TO, develop on WebSphere locally. Which in that case I hope to god you are not using a laptop, between RAD and WS you'll need a bit of ram. That being said if you've gone that far go ahead and get ClearCase as well, it's spectacular I mean it's not like you can get a better VCS for free. I do not say this in jest I say this with painful experience, no matter what some Big Blue sales person told you RAD is a pig IBM didn't even put lipstick on it. If for some reason you really do want to use WS locally (seriously use glassfish or something else locally using WS specific functionality is just a bad idea) I strongly recommend looking at MyEclipse Blue. On the other side IBM does sell a very impressive collection of software to take you through the SDLC but if you think you well be able to pick and choose you are wrong and of all the pieces RAD is the least needed part (unless things have drastically changed). The one thing that I thought was nice about RAD was the UML and round tripping, worked for Java...CF hah. My IDE of choice is quickly becoming IntelliJ but I still like cfEclipse & Eclipse for all mroe work related dev. IntelliJ is still just my hobby IDE. Adam On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Neil Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm curious as to what people are using for IDE of choice these days. I'm > sure some folks have moved toward the Eclipse-based IDE but are any of you > using the IBM Rational IDE? > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316462 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: < CFLoop died help >
I would guess that there is an illegal format of an email address and cfmail is throwing an exception. Adam On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:44 PM, cfcom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My CFloop died, it used to work but now doesn't and I haven't touched the > code. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > username="xyz" > > password="abc" > > formfields="sender_firstname, sender_lastname, > sender_email, sender_address, sender_city, sender_state, sender_zip, > sender_time, sender_date, sender_ip, sender_msgType"> > > > > > > > > > > password="abc"> > > SELECT sender_email, sender_firstname, sender_lastname, sender_address, > sender_city, sender_state, sender_zip, sender_date, sender_time, sender_ip, > sender_msgType > > FROM Holidays > > WHERE sender_email = '#Form.sender_email#' > > > > > > > > > > > > #DateFormat(Now(), " d, ")# > > > > > > > > > > > > subject="MySubjectName" query="GetHolidays" > > > #getholidays.sender_date# > > > > > > Dear Jon, > > > > > > This is my written statement here. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Yours truly, > > > > #GetHolidays.sender_firstname# #GetHolidays.sender_lastname# > > #GetHolidays.sender_address# > > #GetHolidays.sender_city#, #GetHolidays.sender_state# > #GetHolidays.sender_zip# > > #GetHolidays.sender_email# > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316395 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: continous loop
What is in the OnError method? Adam On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:13 PM, Richard White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi > > we have the following code in the onrequeststart method in the > application.cfc > > > Access Denied > > > however this is causing a continuous loop, and we cannot see why?? > > can anyone spot the reason why this code would cause that > > thanks > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316394 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
As I noted in my followup the jetty bundle is fully capable to run production environment. By the way, maybe I should post a announcement in a separate thread but OpenBD went version 1.0 ad now has an admin (built by Matt Woodward) built in. Very nice, check it out. Adam On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't want to use the jetty bundle, etc.. I want to put it on a server > and run some of my own sites on it to see how it is in "real world" > environment and not much info on that. > > I just did a search again and Luis (aka mr coldbox) just put up a blog > entry today about it. > > I did try openBD awhile back but had some issues.. the first was no admin, > the second was that when I hooked tomcat into apache it was fine but if > myself or the guy I let use the server would go into the xserve tools and do > anything in site admin it would go through all the sites and recompile the > vh directories and take my tomcat hooks out. The xserve admin tools are of > course beautiful and so simple to use but when you start going outside of > what it is set up to do it blows. Even weirder is that tomcat comes > pre-installed but not running or hooked to apache. > > Since then dillhole started running his sites with wordpress and > immediately got sql injection (rock on php), so I had hms wipe the server > and just install reg leopard so I could have more control. > > > > > > >Its just a war. There really isn't much of an install. I wrote a blog > entry > >about getting things running for BlueDragon JEE it is the same stuff for > >OpenBD or Railo etc. Heck for local dev and tinkering Railo and OpenBD > both > >come with a jetty bundle...download and click start. Easy as pie. > > > >http://cfrant.blogspot.com/2008/03/jboss-eclipse-and-bluedragon.html > > > >Adam > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316382 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
If I recall the latest Railo release added most of the functions that cf8 provide. OpenBD offers a cfimage tag, though we should put the image functions on the road map. It may be important to note that Adobe did not use open source libraries for much of ColdFusion's implementation for the image functions so results will most likely vary between the products. I suspect OpenBD and Railo would be much similar in performance and outcome for image manipulation (not tested and no evidence just an assumption). Adam On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Andrew Grosset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gertz, > > [quote] > and some image manipulations (cropping, etc) > [/quote] > > what's available with Railo for image manipulation? I currently use > cfx_imagecr3 > (great tag by the way) but as you know that is not java based so is not > compatible any recommendations? > > Andrew. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316380 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
I should probably add that there is really nothing wrong with running the Jetty/OpenBD(Railo) bundle on production. I personally favor Tomcat but Jetty is good as well. Adam On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its just a war. There really isn't much of an install. I wrote a blog > entry about getting things running for BlueDragon JEE it is the same stuff > for OpenBD or Railo etc. Heck for local dev and tinkering Railo and OpenBD > both come with a jetty bundle...download and click start. Easy as pie. > > http://cfrant.blogspot.com/2008/03/jboss-eclipse-and-bluedragon.html > > Adam > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I am chompin to try railo on my xserve but the one thing they don't really >> have yet is decent install docs. I heard an installer for os x is coming & >> they do have some linux things but with all the dev'rs on macs these days it >> would be nice to know how to install it right. >> >> >> ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
Its just a war. There really isn't much of an install. I wrote a blog entry about getting things running for BlueDragon JEE it is the same stuff for OpenBD or Railo etc. Heck for local dev and tinkering Railo and OpenBD both come with a jetty bundle...download and click start. Easy as pie. http://cfrant.blogspot.com/2008/03/jboss-eclipse-and-bluedragon.html Adam On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am chompin to try railo on my xserve but the one thing they don't really > have yet is decent install docs. I heard an installer for os x is coming & > they do have some linux things but with all the dev'rs on macs these days it > would be nice to know how to install it right. > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316337 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
I also think it is important to note that any time one is concerned about load they really should consider load testing and stress testing. Mike Brunt is a wizard with this stuff and I strongly recommend him, he's keen on CFML and he knows his stuff. You can always do it yourself but why not invest in an individual than in software products you may not know how to use properly ;) Adam On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 5:37 AM, John M Bliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quoting Dr. Peter Venkman, "I'd call that a big yes." :-) > > (The rest of the line is, "Uh, are you habitually using drugs? Stimulants? > Alcohol?" but that didn't seem to apply here. :-) > > OpenBD+1 Railo+1 > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:12 AM, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > David, > > > > just yesterday we launched a website that has around 11.000.000 pi's per > > month. (btw: www.buscaimoveis.com a brazilian real estate website). > > Besides that we have www.pcwelt.de which serves 100'000'000 pi's a > > month. And there is one coming where we have to deal with 1.5 billion > > req a month. Spread across several Railo servers of course. If you need > > any additional information, you can eMail me off list. > > > > Greetings from Switzerland > > Gert Franz > > Railo Technologies GmbH > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > www.railo.ch > > > > Join our Mailing List > > german:http://de.groups.yahoo.com/group/railo/ > > english: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/railo_talk/ > > linked in: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/71368/0CF7D323BBC1 > > > > > > > > David McCan schrieb: > > > Does anyone have experience or know if Open BlueDragon or Railo are > > suitable for use in a high traffic e-commerce site? During the busiest > > times there are about 100,000 visitors between 8 AM and 7 PM during a > day. > > The highest concentration is between 10 AM and 2 PM. There are lots of > > graphics, SSL sessions, and some image manipulations (cropping, etc). I > > would like to use one of them due to the savings, but do not want to risk > > problems with some critical sites if they need more time to develop. I > have > > not heard of either being used in this type of context, but may have > missed > > hearing about that if it was posted. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316334 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Adobe's CF IDE, "Bolt"
Couple of thoughts rick. You could take a stab at adding the feature. There is mechanism in eclipse to do this, and I can't imagine it would be overly difficult. Also, have you considered using the outline view? It is very nice and allows one to scan a file rather quickly. I was jut talking about this 2 days ago with a coworker. Outline view really is very nice, check it out. Adam On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > While it does offer manual folding, it doesn't maintain the folds > when a file is closed...that's worthless... > > Andy Matthews wrote: > > You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM > > To: cf-talk > > Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, "Bolt" > > > > I don't care if they call it "Elmer Fudd" as long as it works well and > has > > code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least to me... > > > > Charlie Griefer wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>> Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is > >>> named 'Bolt'. I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid > >>> > > movie. > > > >>> But on a technical note... Is this IDE targeted to current Eclipse > >>> users, or is Adobe trying to convert programmers who are using > >>> Dreamweaver? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> It's an Eclipse plugin, so I'd guess the former. Altho I'm sure > >> anyone would be welcome to use it :) > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316314 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Open BlueDragon and Railo - ready?
I am part of the OpenBD project so I will try to keep my opionions out of it when it comes to OpenBD. They are both suitable for high traffic websites. BlueDragon powers CarFax.com, as well as blog-city both of which are high traffic. I am not sure what sites Railo runs but from my personal experience it seems well against a couple of users I can't imagine it would have problems holding up to the spec you presented. Speaking of which I'm not sure 100,000 users in a 11 hour period is that high of capacity, is it? What would be a more interesting stat would be max concurrent users and the length of time a user is on the site. Adam On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:36 PM, David McCan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have experience or know if Open BlueDragon or Railo are > suitable for use in a high traffic e-commerce site? During the busiest > times there are about 100,000 visitors between 8 AM and 7 PM during a day. > The highest concentration is between 10 AM and 2 PM. There are lots of > graphics, SSL sessions, and some image manipulations (cropping, etc). I > would like to use one of them due to the savings, but do not want to risk > problems with some critical sites if they need more time to develop. I have > not heard of either being used in this type of context, but may have missed > hearing about that if it was posted. > > Thank you, > > David > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316312 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
I've said before ColdFusion developers do not know what they are missing until they use Eclipse for Java. The same can be said for Java developers that have not tried IntelliJ. Adam On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Dominic Watson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've not done extensive Java work in Eclipse but when I have done I > have found the IDE a dream to use (with quick, efficient and > enlightening code hinting and refactoring) - I'd be highly impressed > if there was an editor that gave £187 worth of improvement on that. > However, I'd love that same power in a javascript editor so that'd be > really interesting to see. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Quick note Mark, I know you cleared it up about being confused with which product was being talked about but (as someone else mentioned) IntelliJ does give free licenses to open source projects, so you would probably be able to get it (IntelliJ) for free. That being said I hope Adobe considers the same license for Bolt folks like you that work on big oppen source projects that really help the community deserve the best editor (I'm assuming it will be the best :) ). Adam On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:58 AM, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stupid question - where did $250 come from? > > (I'd be happy with $250) > > Mark > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's hope Adobe notices this response when the set pricing for > > "Bolt" I had the same response to the price tag. > > > > > > Wil Genovese > > > > One man with courage makes a majority. > > -Andrew Jackson > > > > A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. > > > > On Dec 3, 2008, at 12:20 AM, Azadi Saryev wrote: > > > >> hmm... a $250 IDE (personal licence)... no, thanks, i already have DW, > >> which i am happy with... and the free Eclipse+CFEclipse which i am > >> almost happy with... > >> though it does look interesting to play with... i may consider testing > >> it out when i start some open-source project (if i get approved by > >> JetBrains for a free edition)... > >> > >> Azadi Saryev > >> Sabai-dee.com > >> http://www.sabai-dee.com/ > >> > >> > >> > >> Kenton Gray wrote: > >>> With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good > >>> time to let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been > >>> working on a CFML plugin. > >>> > >>> It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. > >>> In my opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most > >>> amazing Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete > >>> and jsdocs support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with > >>> debugging) so you can do all your Adobe coding from one place. > >>> > >>> It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and > >>> have Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! > >>> > >>> Here is the download link: > >>> http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 > >>> > >>> Here is the blog to watch for updates: > >>> http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ > >>> > >>> Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports > >>> and feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop > >>> them a line. > >>> > >>> Kenton > >>> > >>> PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE > >>> around > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316181 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IntelliJ CFML Plugin
Wow how the hell did I miss this? Thanks for the info Kenton. Adam On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Kenton Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With all the excitement over Bolt, I thought this would be a good time to > let everyone know the smart guys at JetBrains have been working on a CFML > plugin. > > It has only been released for a month, but it is rapidly improving. In my > opinion IntelliJ is far superior to Eclipse, and has the most amazing > Javascript editor I've ever seen (drill down, autocomplete and jsdocs > support). To top it off they have Flex 3 support (with debugging) so you can > do all your Adobe coding from one place. > > It is still early but if anyone wants to use a great Java IDE and have > Coldfusion support this is the plugin to watch! > > Here is the download link: > http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=3571 > > Here is the blog to watch for updates: > http://coldfusion-in-idea.blogspot.com/ > > Also the JetBrains guys have been very responsive to bug reports and > feature requests, so if you have any features you want, drop them a line. > > Kenton > > PS: I don't work for JetBrains, I just think they have the best IDE around > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316139 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Need help with CF / Java problem...
Thats true with 5 to 6 but with 5/6 - 1.4 you can almost never just recompile the code. A bunch of built in Java classes started to use generics (like Sets) in 5 so most code written against 5 will not just compile in 1.4. Generics are generally easy enough to fix, remove the generic and manually downcast in the nessacry areas, annotations on the other hand...if those are getting used I'd probably pass on converting that code but I can't imagine you run into too many tand along libraries that make use of annotations. Adam On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quite often you can compile Java 1.5/1.6 code, but target the compiler > at 1.4 compatible bytecode, and it works a treat. > > Mark > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This was a quick 5 minute jobber so let me know if it doesn't work. > > > > It used generics which are Java 5 as well as for syntax that is Java 5. > Both > > were replaced with Java 1.4 compatible code. I was pretty cheap on the > > generics stuff so I might have missed something with it, give it a shot > and > > see what happens. > > > > http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/64114/mail-message.jar > > > > Adam H > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:33 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:36 PM, C S wrote: > >> >>You can also use the JDT compiler via JavaLoader, and compile and then > >> >>load the classes on the fly, within CF. > >> >> > >> >>I like that a lot, personally. A fast way to do Java + CF. > >> >> > >> >>I've got some code that does it, been meaning to wrap it up into a > >> >>little project or something. > >> > > >> > > >> > Sounds interesting. Do have any snippets handy? > >> > > >> > >> Sure! Here's the meat of it (it wants javaloader in a subdir, as is): > >> > >> http://coldfusion.pastebin.com/m59a3d21d > >> > >> That should compile your source files, and you can then either use the > >> javaloader to load the class files, or use something like this: > >> > >> http://coldfusion.pastebin.com/m651f1c8f > >> > >> To create a jar file, and load it. > >> > >> This is of course only useful for development, or perhaps on > >> application initialization, as the javaloader used like this will be > >> eating up your memory. > >> > >> It's a nice, fast way to code in both languages and test them out at > >> the same time tho. > >> > >> Have fun, hopefully! > >> > >> -- > >> Those who educate children well are more to be honored than they who > >> produce them; for these only gave them life, those the art of living > >> well. > >> Aristotle > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316040 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Application.cfc - normal request or web service?
This will only return true for web service calls to be clear there are other ways of calling a CFC via HTTP that this will return false, AMF for example (which Mark was just showing me last night this lovely example). Fusebox just looks at the extension in the target page in OnRequestStart: Adam On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Hugo Ahlenius wrote: > > Is there any way that the processing (e.g. OnRequestStart) can know about > the request to figure out if it is a web service call (calling a component > as a web service) or a normal/plain .cfm request? I guess one can always > parse this from the CGI path variables - just curious if anyone knew about > any more "clean" way... > > IsSOAPRequest(): > > http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/functions_in-k_32.html#5052211 > > Jochem > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316035 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Need help with CF / Java problem...
This was a quick 5 minute jobber so let me know if it doesn't work. It used generics which are Java 5 as well as for syntax that is Java 5. Both were replaced with Java 1.4 compatible code. I was pretty cheap on the generics stuff so I might have missed something with it, give it a shot and see what happens. http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/64114/mail-message.jar Adam H On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:33 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:36 PM, C S wrote: > >>You can also use the JDT compiler via JavaLoader, and compile and then > >>load the classes on the fly, within CF. > >> > >>I like that a lot, personally. A fast way to do Java + CF. > >> > >>I've got some code that does it, been meaning to wrap it up into a > >>little project or something. > > > > > > Sounds interesting. Do have any snippets handy? > > > > Sure! Here's the meat of it (it wants javaloader in a subdir, as is): > > http://coldfusion.pastebin.com/m59a3d21d > > That should compile your source files, and you can then either use the > javaloader to load the class files, or use something like this: > > http://coldfusion.pastebin.com/m651f1c8f > > To create a jar file, and load it. > > This is of course only useful for development, or perhaps on > application initialization, as the javaloader used like this will be > eating up your memory. > > It's a nice, fast way to code in both languages and test them out at > the same time tho. > > Have fun, hopefully! > > -- > Those who educate children well are more to be honored than they who > produce them; for these only gave them life, those the art of living > well. > Aristotle > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:316034 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: IDE announced: IDE/Compiler Business Model
Don't forget Thermo/Flash Catalyst when talking about amazing things done with Eclipse... Adam On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Gerald Guido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >>I'm notoriously fickle though and one or two killers features will have > me > sold > > I have seen some *Astounding* things done with Eclipse. Aptana, Yoxos, > MyEclipse and Flex Builder come to mind right off the bat. Keep in mind > that > this is Adobe's brain trust we are talking about. With that said, I have a > feeling that we may be a bit more than mildly pleased with the results. But > then again I could be wrong. I often am. > > G > > -- > Gerald Guido > http://www.myinternetisbroken.com > > "Neurotics build castles in the air, psychotics live in them. My mother > cleans them." > -- Rita Rudner > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315731 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
A free scaled down version exists, its called cfEclipse... Offering an IDE for free will not get people interested in a Language. IDEs are a means to an end not a beiginning (you may consider Visual Studio a slight departure from that statement). I don't think people typically sit around on a Saturday afternoon and think "Humm I want to learn a new programming language, let's see what IDE is out there for free." If anything they should charge $500 for an IDE and give away ColdFusion for free (standard at least maybe not enterprise). As servers become more and more powerful the need for multiple license decreases (the only thing that keeps the need high is increased bloat of product and Adobe has commited to not releasing slower version of CF in the future). As the demand for more web based aps increases the # of developers increases as well, the IDE is directly tied to the # of developers and is steady, or grows as your server technology adoption increases. The only problem with this is folks that make a free IDE, Adobe will always have to add additional value to the IDE. Adam On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Pete Ruckelshaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I realize that this has been flogged into oblivion, but here goes. > > I think Adobe should develop and distribute this editor for free. > Why? Simple. It will introduce more people to ColdFusion as a > development platform, thus making them more revenue. Or, at the very > least, offer a stripped down version with just language support but > without the other buzzers, lights, and bells. If it works as nicely > as Aptana, that would be a plus, since I use Aptana for teaching my > Web Design classes. > > Pete > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315599 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
Why does this matter honestly? Groovy/Grail's entire website ran off something(s) other than Groovy for well over 2 years before they finally broke down and wrote something in Grails. If there is a good solution out there what's the point in creating something new? Are was all that obsessed with beating our chest saying "Look what I can do with ColdFusion" that we require everything from adobe to be either Flex or ColdFusion? Reality check ColdFusion is not the only technology out there for the web, sometimes there are other solutions. While we're at it though one has to ask one's self why doesn't adobe just write Bolt entirely in Flash/Flex and use Air...I mean come on they can create a word processor with it why not my CF IDE? Sound a bit rediculous? Yeah I figured so... Adam On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Rand Thacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >Ben just announced it. Sign up for access to the beta (or whatever) at > >http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Bolt > > I think it's a shame that the makers of ColdFusion make use of php as their > Wiki. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:31 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Official ColdFusion IDE announced
So based on this comment I am curious what is your interest level in Bolt? Adam On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Michael Dinowitz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think most people are using cfeclipse. It's not a very comfortable > environment for a lot of people, myself included. I'd love to see > statistics, but I'm betting less than a third of the community is on it. > Free is nice, but comfort is better. > > >If it costs more than $0 I'll carry on using cfeclipse, as will most > people I suspect. > > > >I wonder just how much the "commercial" release is going to cost? I > >can't see spending more than $50 for a new IDE. > > > > > >Matthew Williams > >Geodesic GraFX > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: JBoss/CF8 only listening on 127.0.0.1?
check out mod_proxy, or mod_jk Adam On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Dan LeGate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doing a little digging I found that JBoss, by default, listens only on > 127.0.0.1. You can send it a "-b 0.0.0.0" switch on startup and it will > for connections on all IP addresses of the machine. > > Now I just need to tie it to Apache... more digging. :-) > > Dan LeGate wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > We got our first test instance of JBoss/CF8 installed, however, it can't > > be accessed except at the server itself. > > > > When I do a netstat -an, here's what I see: > > > > tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:80 > > 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN > > > > but no listener on the public IP. I found this thread: > > > > https://cloud.prod.atl2.jboss.com/jira/browse/JBAS-6118 > > > > which (since you have to allow an SSL exception) states: > > > > If the host name is listed in an entry of the /etc/hosts file as > > 127.0.0.1. For example as follows (where vm9-srv01 is the hostname): > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost vm9-srv01 > > Then the EJB3 InvokerLocator server socket binds only to 127.0.0.1 > > regardless of what the jboss.bind.address is. > > That means clients from other machines will not be able to make EJB3 > > calls to the server. > > This issue was also discussed here for JBoss 4.2.1.GA: > > > http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4098486#4098486 > > > > So we modified /etc/hosts (on RedHat) like so: > > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > servername.company.domain servername > > 143.145.129.12 servername.company.domain servername > > > > restarted JBoss but it still only listens at 127.0.0.1. > > > > Any one else run into (or solve?) this one? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: JBoss / CF8 installation/configuration guide?
Sorry I don't come on here much. We run cf8 (and did run cf7 unsupported) in Jboss 4.2 and 4.0.5. I like 4.2 better but its mostly Java stuff I like, really nothing with ColdFusion, so it depends on how much JEE dev you are doing alongside ColdFusion if one version is better than the other. As for application.xml if you installed ColdFusion as a WAR you will not have one of those in there, you'll want to install as an EAR (though technically if you just read up on EARs you could make it yourself). If you want to install as a war on Jboss you can deploy an exploded war and whatever the name of the directory is will become the context root, or you and change that with jboss-web.xml. http://cfrant.blogspot.com/2008/03/jboss-eclipse-and-bluedragon.html Adam On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Dan LeGate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, so I'm answering most of my own questions, and coming up with > more. I found: > > http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/cf8_systemsupportmatrix.pdf > > which is a more updated list of supported versions/platforms, etc. so I > got that answer. > > Now I'm running into a problem where after installing CF and expanding > my cfusion.war file, there is no application.xml to edit as instructed > in the docs. > > Anyone seen this happen? > > Dan > > Dan LeGate wrote: > > Just a quick follow-up, I noticed this site: > > > > http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/installj2ee_15.html > > > > says JBoss 4.0.5 is supported, however the latest stable release appears > > to be 4.2.3.GA. > > > > Should we go with 4.0.5, or get the latest and greatest of version 4? > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Dan > > > > Dan LeGate wrote: > > > >> Is there a JBoss & CF8 install / configuration guide? Or any good blogs > >> on the subject of properly configuring/tuning this kind of environment? > >> > >> We're about to bring this up in a test environment, and would like to > >> know the *proper* way to set this up, and not just follow all defaults. > >> > >> Any advice is appreciated. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Dan > >> > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:315009 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Did OpenBD Replace the Free BlueDragon Server?
I would assume it did but I am concerned about the later comment. I read it with a negative connotation and I am curious how is it a different beast? Adam On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Dan LeGate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I no longer see the free BlueDragon Server on New Atlanta's site. Did > Open BlueDragon basically replace it? Certainly seems like a different > beast. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314867 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFML Language Development
Not the first time this has come up: http://cfrant.blogspot.com/2008/04/why-adobe-should-love-open-bluedragon.html Gert, of Railo, also mentions a similar view in episode 10 of cfConversations (please forgive the crappy quality): http://www.cfconversations.com/index.cfm/2008/7/28/CFConversations-10-Interview-6--Gert-Franz-of-Railo--072808 And lets be honest here it is already a plugable architecture, just do a CFdump on most (probably any) tag class and you will see they all extend off JSP tag. The only engine that does not do this currently is OpenBD but as my blog post above speaks to, OpenBD has a plugable architecture as well, just does not base it strictly off JSP. Adam Haskell On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Don L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Here's something that pops out of my head upon reading your post. > > > >Given the recent roadmap that Adobe published for CF in their marketing > >kit, I suspect they may be planning to separate some of the features in > >a few years when version 11 or so is released. I.e. you would buy CF but > >then you wouldn't be paying for PDF generation unless you're using it, > >because the PDF features would be in a supplemental product... and it > >would make similar or alternative products from other vendors more > >feasible. At this point it's all guesswork though because they're not > >really allowed to say more about their plans, just that they're planning > >to provide a "pluggable architecture" in that version. > > > >s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch > > isn't it time for a change? > > ph: 781.769.0723 > > > >http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog > > Thanks for sharing what is sharable. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314422 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFML Advisory Committee (was: Alternative to coldfusion8)
I think they are slightly closer to having a wiki space up than OpenBD at this point...how long has it been since we were promised a wiki with info on OpenBD? Adam Haskell Also a member of the OpenBD Steering Committee :) On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Jordan Michaels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Speaking of the advisory committee, I heard a rumor once (don't remember > where) that there was going to be a web site that would help the > community stay up on the progress of this committee. Any news on that so > far? > > How about overall progress of the committee in general? What's the > committee been up to lately? > > Warm regards, > Jordan Michaels > Vivio Technologies > http://www.viviotech.net/ > Open BlueDragon Steering Committee > Adobe Solution Provider > > > Judah McAuley wrote: > > In the future, differences between projects are likely to be smaller > > due to the creation of the CFML Advisory Committee. > > > > > http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/CFML_Advisory_Committee > > > > Hopefully it will delineate a "core" set of features/functions and > > allow for more widely interoperability between CF engines. > > > > Judah > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Don L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just ran a search for it and found two, of which one is well-known, that > is, BlueDragon, the other contender is "Smith", did a quick browse of > features respectively, and noticed that some of 'hot-cake' CF8 features like > cfajaxproxy and associated tags are not supported by neither of them (on > these features, one IT vet even suggested that he/she would for CF platform > just for that! hear that). Am thinking totally loud here, why not combine > resources to come up with some leading edge stuff, instead of being a > follower (non-critical of neither products, just a comment)? > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314348 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Inexpensive student/developer oriented CF hosting?
Daily Razor cheap and pretty good. http://www.dailyrazor.com/cfmx/promo.php#details Adam On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Gerald Guido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I had a good experience with hostek.com. They have cf 8 for $5/mo No > MSSQL > though. > If the kids want to chip in they can get the $9.99 deal and use the 25 sub > domains and 10 MySQL databases. > > HTH > G > > > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >wrote: > > > I'm the computer science teacher at a public high school and am teaching > > ColdFusion as part of my web programming course. Does anyone know of any > > inexpensive ($5 or so per month) ColdFusion hosting services? Something > > like what Zymic (http://www.zymic.com/) does for PHP, but with CF or > > BlueDragon, mySQL or SQL Server Express, that sort of thing. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pete > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313816 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Best free ColdFusion server?
Since both Railo and OpenBD are JEE wars it should not be any different is Railo is doing something different that is easier please point it out OpeanBD can do the exact same things from a deployment perspective. Adam On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Gerald Guido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I will go first then. > > The answer is: "It depends". > > Like Adam pointed out both of them are mature and very capable engines. > Both > have their stronger/weaker points, it is just matters what you are looking > for. My over all impression is that those more comfortable in a J2EE > environment may favor OBD where Railo is more inline with those more > comfortable with "traditional" CF environment. > > I have evaluated them both on Windows 2003 and Centos Linux as stand alone > servers, running as WAR's on top of Tomcat, and in conjunction with Apache > and IIS, with my intention of using them as a primary CF engine for > projects. And based entirely on my personal preferences I have made the > decision to go with Railo. > > I like both. I have worked with the paid version of BD's Server JX and > came > "This close" to buying JX a couple of years ago. I foresee using both of > them in a production environment in the future, but at this juncture I am > partial to Railo. > > These are the factors that went into choosing one over the other. > -- > Railo comes packaged with connectors for Apache and IIS. > > OBD connects to Apache using a proxy (mod_proxy_ajp/mod_proxy) and TTBOMK > you need a third party module to connect OBD to IIS. My understanding that > Apache takes a significant performance hit when used as a proxy to a J2EE > server (This effects both Railo and OBD). I don't know if the same is true > for Railo's connectors. > > It is arguably more dificult (a steeper learing curve) to get OBD running > side by side with PHP under Apache than it is with Railo. It requires a > non-trivial understanding of Apache's .conf files to run OBD side by side > with PHP. At least this was my experience when running OBD under Tomcat. > Perhaps others have had a different experience. BTW I have not tried > running OBD side by side with PHP on IIS. > > OBD is Licensed under GPL, while the soon to be open sourced Railo 3.1 will > be Licensed under under the LGPL. This means you have the option to bundle > commercial apps with Railo with out having to open source the commercial > apps under the GPL license, while with OBD any apps that you bundle with it > must be released under the GPL license. IMO LGPL is much more flexibility > in > this respect. > > Railo has (and the OS version will be released with) a mature, production > ready web GUI wheres OBD does not. OBD is rolling their own Admin and it is > not production ready. It has no login/security and they even state on their > site that "Currently has no security in place, we do NOT advise using the > admin console in its current state on a production or otherwise important > instance of OpenBD." > > On the up side for OBD is that you can use the admin of Blue Dragons > developers version to create the XML and copy it to your OBD instance. > > You have to restart OBD in order to add a datasource. > > Correct me if I am wrong on this but last I knew Railo is part of the CFML > Language Advisory Committee and will be working with Adobe in defining the > a > CFML "Standard". It is my understanding that, for what ever reason, OBD is > not a part of the Committee. > > Railo is more CF 8 compliant than OBD. Railo is a couple dozen tags and > functions short of Adobe CF 8. OBD is still pretty much V.7. A major factor > in my my decision making process was Railo's inclusion of cfdbinfo. > > If I am mistaken or missinformed on any of this please feel free to correct > me. > > Thanx > ~G~ > > -- Gets a new bag of popcorn. > > > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Philip Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Railo vs BlueDragon vs Smith vs ?? > > > > http://www.smithproject.org/ > > http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon/ > > http://www.railo.ch/ > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313628 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Best free ColdFusion server?
Both are capable engines. Right now I'd say Railo has a better compatibility with ColdFusion 8.0 but OpenBD is improving in that area. They both take different routes to deliver the engines capabilities. Both are very capable engines with a wealth of support from inside and outside of the ColdFusion community. They're also both forgien so either way your money if going over seas ;) Adam On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Philip Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Railo vs BlueDragon vs Smith vs ?? > > http://www.smithproject.org/ > http://www.newatlanta.com/bluedragon/ > http://www.railo.ch/ > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313562 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Consultant as a Java Consultant?
I just want to clarify some things here. JEE spec (JEE technologies) is something that is defined. These are technologiest that are voted on and documented by Sun (and memebers of the community). Some of this is supported by the Java Runtime itself (language constructs like Annotations, generics, Enums) others are supported by libraries. Sun releases reference implementations of most specs but others can, and do, as well. Java technologies include things like JSF, JSP, JPA and EJB. All of these have JSR[s] attached to them. On the other hand Spring, Struts, Tapestry are just Java frameworks. Hibernate is a little different b/c JPA was mostly based off hibernate and hibernate has a third party implementation of the JPA spec. For a list of Java technologies check out: http://java.sun.com/javaee/technologies/ This is all way off in left field at this point though lol. Adam ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313396 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Consultant as a Java Consultant?
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:00 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I guess my question to you would be, what is a "java app" to you? > > How does JSP, Tapestry, Faces, Groovy, etc. fit into your picture there? > JSP and Faces are both part of the Java spec so its java (JSF 2.0 I suppose). Tapestry is a framework and does not really do code generation as compared to something like CFML. You'll note that I suggested selling CFML as a Java framework earlier. Groovy is a completely different story and much closer to CFML except that it needs no runtime nor the servlet container to work. It really does compile down to bytecode and run. CFML on the other hand compiles down to bytecode but can not exist or function on its own. All CFML code requires a CFML runtime engine to actually provide functionality (unless Railo is doing something different I have not looked at 3.x extensively I figure I'll just wate for the source). Very general! Which is why, if you care about The Source, you're > going to be asking a lot more than "is it Java", right? > > I bet there are JSP, etc., "powered" apps that tout themselves as > being "JEE", neh? Although it's all sorta the same, there's a world > of difference, from a "can I jump into this thing's source?" > perspective. > Well they are JEE apps if they are JSP, it is part of the spec. > I make it clear at the outset that we're using a whole slew of various > technologies, and that it's all open source, so I provide the code, as > well, but I'm not selling code, I'm providing a service. > Right and that to me makes perfect sense! > I get your point though, and I would not be touting my CF-based JEE > app as having "pure" Java sources. I don't think that's exactly what > we were talking about tho, neh? :-) > Sort of it. The original comment was give them a war and say it is a JEE app, to which I think there are implications there to most people. The implication (right or wrong) being JEE == Java [source]. Again if it is a product and thats that, no extnetion points, then yeah who cares. But if there is any extensibility or source code investment calling it a JEE app is sort of underhanded due to my stance on what that implies. To your earlier question yes I'd like to think a company would be smart enough ti interigate further when purchasing an app + source. Ultimately it's the company that has to support the source so they should damn well be investigating it further that sort of where my original question of how much repeat business do you get comes from. If a company finds they are given CFML and not the "standard" JEE app (which is rapidly degrading away as a standard) would they come back? Adam ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313321 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion Consultant as a Java Consultant?
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Adam Haskell wrote: > >>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ColdFusion is compiled to Java. Hand the code to the company in an EAR > >>>> or WAR and they won't ever know you used ColdFusion. > > > Yes and no. I really am curious if you folks would deal with you giving > them > > a "JEE app"* that they do not have resources to maintain. > > Most companies that buy something elsewhere have no interest in > maintaining it themselves. > > This is a different world than I live in, not saying it doesn't exist just new to me. > > > It has it's positive and negatives, we actually prefer to just deploy > > individual code into a WAR but that has more to do with Websphere sucking > > than anything :) > > Would you still prefer that if hosting was outsourced somewhere and all > you were allowed to do was hand them the app and instructions? > This is how we do it right now, we just have our own deployment procedure for a zip file. Everything is self contained, thanks to mappings in cf8. Understand that some of our stuff is just deployed as a war but others are not. As an example we have a war for each division of the company some of these contain 900+ individual applications pulling that all out of source control and [re]publishing the war each time 1 of 900 projects is changed is a big pain, conversely thanks to WebSphere we could never deploy even a handful of apps as independent wars thanks to the memory that would be required (we have 17 divisions the smallest division has ~300 applications). Which is where the positive and negatives comment comes from :) > > > > Agreed but like I said earlier selling something as JEE app has some > general > > implications I think. > > Only if the contract specifies they get the source. Yep understood, we are sort of source mongers here so speaking that's come to be expected for me. Adam ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion Consultant as a Java Consultant?
On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 1:20 AM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote: > >> > >> ColdFusion is compiled to Java. Hand the code to the company in an EAR > >> or WAR and they won't ever know you used ColdFusion. > >> > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Adam Haskell wrote: > > > > Let me know how much repeat business you get with that tactic please. > > Are you being sarcastic? I'm not quite sure. > Yes and no. I really am curious if you folks would deal with you giving them a "JEE app"* that they do not have resources to maintain. Now if its a turnkey solution sure I guess I see this working but in my world we never take something without getting the source code and needing customizations, so getting a "JEE app" that is not written in Java wouldn't work so well, if we didn't have a large CFML group at least ;) * Yes it is truly a JEE app no doubt there but there is an implication there that it is Java so unless it is clear that it is not I see that as underhanded. Deploying applications as WARs or EARs seems pretty slick. Covers a > lot of problems with application deployment, neh? > > I'm just getting into it, and clustering, but I could easily see > distributing one's application as a zip file, basically. > It has it's positive and negatives, we actually prefer to just deploy individual code into a WAR but that has more to do with Websphere sucking than anything :) > > I see people paying me money for these applications. And leveraging > Java is a pretty powerful feature. > > From the other end, if you're doing anything cool, you'd have an API > anyways. Maybe use SOAP or, well, whatever, really. Not quite a java > API though, I guess. > > It's not Java, literally, (or maybe it is, actually ;]), so I wouldn't > sell it as "having Java source files", but I could see selling it as a > java application (or java-based). At least, Dilbert-style: "the > pointy heads don't even know what Java is, but they've heard of it, at > least". > Agreed but like I said earlier selling something as JEE app has some general implications I think. > > Probably depends on your business model, and if the client owns the > source code, and all that stuff, as to how successful you'd be at > doing things this way, too. > > > You'd be silly to sell CF source as Java source, of course, of course. > If that's what you were getting at. Or not being clear about it... I think I've made this point a couple times now though so I'll stop banging my drum ;) Adam ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CTO Opportunity
Good point ;) Adam On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Eric Roberts < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then you would be perfect for an executive position *ducking* > > Eric > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313171 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CTO Opportunity
Thanks I am what you would call a moron. Adam :) On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI - You sent this message to the entire list. The employer's > contact info is at the bottom of the message. > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm certainly not local but I have interest in the opportunity. I'm an > > Architect for the Kroger Company, as an architect my input and ideas are > > integral in decisions that include technology directions in Kroger, > process > > definition, and development innovation. I've also been the lead on 2 > > projects is patents pending inside Kroger and consulted on a third. These > > project are mostly in workforce management and usability concepts for web > > applications. Please feel free to view my resume on Google Docs, I've > > provided a link before my signature. I believe you can export it to your > > desired format from there, if not please let me know and I can send an > > attachment in the format you desire. > > > > http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dcjskfzr_11hjtk4h > > > > Adam Haskell > > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Rich Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I have a client in the Lake Mary, FL area that is looking for a CTO > level > >> person who has a background in managing teams who develop web based > >> applications using ColdFusion, .net, SQL Server, etc. This is not a > hands on > >> development position, but the CTO should be able to effectively > communicate > >> innovative ideas, and put these ideas into action. The CEO is looking > for > >> someone who has market changing ideas, not just a doer, but a strategic > >> thinker. If you are interested in learning more about this position, > please > >> give me a call or email--- Rich Baker 407-548-6313 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Local candidates will receive priority preference *** > >> > >> > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313154 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Consultant as a Java Consultant?
Let me know how much repeat business you get with that tactic please. Adam On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:31 AM, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Dakota Burns wrote: > > Thanks all for the followup! I'm sorry, but it was "My Bad" on the > subject > > line. I wasn't trying to suggest that a CF Developer could present him > or > > herself as a Java developer, but rather present the idea of a CF > Developer > > persuading a company to use ColdFusion versus Java for their web apps. > > ColdFusion is compiled to Java. Hand the code to the company in an EAR > or WAR and they won't ever know you used ColdFusion. > > Jochem > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313109 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion Consultant as a Java Consultant?
New Atlanta has made quite a good living "migrating" folks from "legacy" coldfusion to .Net or JEE. The reality is they come into companies still running ColdFusion 5 or older and move them onto New Atlanta's licenced CFML engines (BlueDragon) for the appropriate platform be it .Net or JEE. Now honestly I doubt there are enough large companies out there interested in it so I would say its not the best career move but it is feasible to fit into that space and use OpenBD or Railo. If I were a Java shop I would be leary of CFML as it is a different language (regardless of the easy of picking it up). You might be better served selling your skills as a java presentation layer consultant, which really is where CFML can fit very nicely in a JEE architecture, its a crap ton better than other frameworks in that space in my opinion (JSP, JSF, Tapestry). Adam On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Dakota Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Wow ... thanks for the enlightenment Dave. I know CF programs aren't > "written" in Java, but they can be run on J2EE servers, where other > previously programmed Java/JSP apps may be running. > Perhaps a better question would have been to ask whether any of you CF Pros > have persuaded someone looking to build their new web app with JSP on a > J2EE > server ... to instead use ColdFusion ... either as a deployable container > ala "Railo", or Adobe CF8 Enterprise. > ~ Dakota > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > For those of you CF developers > > > that deploy your apps to J2EE Servers > > > (or servlet containers, as is the case > > > with Tomcat), have you been successful > > > in situations where the employer > > > wanted a Java Developer, and after > > > talking to you with your CF skillset, > > > felt comfortable they were serving their > > > need for a Java Developer? > > > > If you can competently write programs in Java, you are a Java developer. > CF > > programs are not written in Java. If anyone here can answer your > question > > in the affirmative, the employer in question does not understand what > Java > > development is. > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:313089 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Want to Learn Fuse-Box
Hey sandy. An exciting experience eh? That's certainly an interesting challenge. What about fusebox looked strange? Fusebox happens to be my framework theses day, it's been in many folks hands (so don't blame me ;)). Like Brian alluded to (speaking of which how am I always coming in after brian with the same thoughts...evil man!) the most enjoyable framework might depend on your background, though I think fusebox can give everyone something to play with and learn. If you are looking for a framework to learn for resume building you may want to share with us what it is you are looking for in a framework. Alternately share the problem that you have in front of you that you think a framework can solve. Adam Haskell On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:27 PM, sandeep saini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Dear all, > > I am a certified CF Programmer. Since long time I am planning to learn Fuse > Box.But It looks something strange to me and I quit. > Please let me now a good resource and method to make FuseBox Learing an > exciting experience. > > Cheers > sandy > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:312824 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Custom Tag Paths
We are load testing one of our internal apps and seeing some odd errors. We defined a cutomtag path in the Application.cfc with 100,000 requests in just under an hour (these request call different pages but 80% use the custom tag, it's a portlet) we see 1-1.5% returning a customtag not found error. It is important to note we are pushing about 7000 users through the system in an hour each hitting only a couple of pages and most users make it through with no error, so not its not configured wrong. We've run the test 3 times now and seen a similar pattern of failure each time. For me the most interesting one was our final running that continued to present this error even with the cutomtag itself was not only on the customtag path but also in the same directory of the calling cfml template. I was curious if anyone else has ever seen this odd behaviour before? We're going to put together a simplified application later this week to see if we can replicate it with a trivial application as well. I'm suspecting sever issues but not sure at this point. Adam Haskell ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:312572 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFCOMPILE
Open up the cfcompile.bat there is some good info in there. If you use the -deploy that will allow for sourceless deployment. Are you running this from command line? My guess is that there is an rror and you ar enot seeing it on the command line, you'll most likely need to open up the .bat file and edit CFUSION_HOME, J2EEJAR and WEBINF. Adam On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Robert Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I'm trying to use CFCOMPILE to deploy an application. The documentation is > a > bit sketchy, so I have some questions: > >1. Do the source files have to be .cfml or can they be .cfm? > >2. When you compile can you recurse directories? > >3. I tried a test using: > >C:\CFusionMX7\bin\cfcompile -deploy > C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\source C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\compiled > >It opened a window and ran, but there are not files in > C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\compiled. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > > > > > Robert B. Harrison > Director of Interactive services > Austin & Williams > 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 > T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 > F : 631.434.7022 > www.austin-williams.com > > Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be &. > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:312018 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: TDD vs. Big Ball of Mud (was Re: fusebox vs model glue)
TDD advocate here... I really think folks are going into TDD with this mindset that it's just write a test before you write code (so yes your are somewhat right). Doing this is going to result in frustration and an eventual failure and abandonment of TDD. Focusing on just writing a test is really the wrong approach, hell the fact you get some tests out of TDD is just a nicity. Use TDD or do not the value to me is the thought process involved this is the indispensable part of TDD. The problem comes in to the fact that how do I teach a group of people good TDD in a 1 hour (hell 2 hour) session at a conference? I am attempting it at bFusion, hopefully it will turn out well and I can take it on the road so to speak ;) Here's my short synopsis of how we stand with TDD: Proper TDD seeks to break down that 80% failure by focusing on putting more thought into your *design*. We can either write, rewrite and rewrite production code, or we can write and rewrite test cases until we are more confident with the design. Then we may only write and refactor production code once or twice. I'd much rather see that happen. The fact is some very smart folks have realized TDD was a horrible name for a great idea as it put us into this mind set of testing a unit. With this mindset we focus on asserting simple values and string, or looking at booleans of a unit. What the hell is a unit anyway? A CFC? A Method? The whole concept of a unit is based off its context. Really what TDD should be about is testing the behavior and (more importantly in many systems) the interaction of objects in the system. This is why many folks (mostly outside of the CF community) are "evolving" TDD into BDD (behaviour driven development). It's the same thing just worded differently. Instead of using a word like testing which someone assumes oh just write tests first, this name sort of smacks you in the face. FOCUS ON BEHAVIOUR, yet if you read up on BDD its all about validating your design (fancy way of saying test ;) ). I could ramble on more probably but I think I've said enough for now, maybe this deserves a blog post? Adam On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 1:05 PM, s. isaac dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's actually switching over, to where the tests come first, that's > > the hard part, for me. Due to a lot of the reasons listed in that > > article about big balls of mud. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311882 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: fusebox vs model glue
Eric sometime we should talk about these draconian restrictions and what you've had to do with Fusebox, drop me a line sometime. Adam On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Eric Roberts < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which I have run into with MG...most of what we are doing is made > overly > complex by using MG, which in turns made it overly difficult to debug when > we had probs. I can see where MG would be very useful for a very complex > application...but I don't think it is the solution for everyone. I > personally prefer the ease of use and flow of FB (or more specifically, my > bastardized version of FB ;-) which based on a combination of my personal > coding style that is very close to a fusebox-esque style and a version that > we were forced to use due to draconian server restrictions at > AT&T ). > > Eric > > /*-Original Message- > /*From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > /*Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 11:01 AM > /*To: CF-Talk > /*Subject: Re: fusebox vs model glue > /* > /*>denstar wrote: > /*>> Sounds like with FB you could end up with a Pretty Entertaining > /*Environment. > /*> > /*>*groans* > /*> > /*>> Is there a down side to all the flexibility? :-) > /*> > /*>Yes. It means that no 2 application developers will develop websites the > /*>same way. Though IMHO, that's not much of a downside. > /* > /*It could also mean that you end up with it going down the TOtally > /*Ineffective Ludicrous Entertaining Technology or TOILET. > /* > /*ok its been a long weekend. > /* > /* > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311881 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: fusebox vs model glue
Hell yes there can be a downside to flexibility. That's one of the things I've always complain about with fusebox, but I am not planning on changing that flexibility. With a good set of best practices and coding standards you can wrangle in the variations some and not loose all your flexibility, unless you make a stupid standards that are too rigid like you must always use CFCs. You can further alleviate unneeded variance with code reviews and good design principles. Adam! On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Phillip M. Vector < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > denstar wrote: > > Sounds like with FB you could end up with a Pretty Entertaining > Environment. > > *groans* > > > Is there a down side to all the flexibility? :-) > > Yes. It means that no 2 application developers will develop websites the > same way. Though IMHO, that's not much of a downside. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311855 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: fusebox vs model glue
Disclaimer: I just took over the Fusebox core files so my opinion is most likely slaned ;) Well the easy answer here is no they are not similar and yes use one or the other. The hard answer is that evil last one. What's the maturity level of you/your group? Fusebox offers a vast bit more flexibility in how you code (not forcing you into an OO, or pseudo OO approach) if you think you are just doing CRUD applications most of the time you will most likely end up with a Procedural Object Oriented Program (yep thats right you end up with POOP) if you use MG. Thats not to say poop in this regard is always a bad thing just know what you are heading for and accept that you will pay the OO hit for all your applications regardless of the nessecity for OO. This is one on of the reason I sort of like fusebox it can be made to compliment different levels of applications. You have an application that is very behaviour driven with a rich domain model? No problem model it out and use Fusebox as a nice front end controller. You have a reporting app that is chock full of complex queries but not much more? No problem write out your queries in a coule of qry_ files and display them with some layouts and dsp_ pages. Why take the OO hit for a reporting app? Fusebox is not the silver bullet mind you, but it has not failed me yet in an enterprise with more than 20 apps written in fusebox ranging from internal workflow apps to enterprise level CMS apps. Adam On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Richard White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi > > we have just reviewed model glue, and have also looked into fusebox very > briefly > > is fusebox similiar to model glue? and if so is it a case of using one or > the other? and if so then what are your feelings on which one is better? > > thanks for your help > > richard > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:311851 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Installing Open BD and CF8 on the same machine?
Yep there is a ready2run jetty version ( http://openbd.viviotech.net/downloader.cfm/id/13/file/jetty-openbd.zip). It uses a nonstandard port but you can change it to 80 fairly easy (read the readme). If you have more questions about setup you might also check out OpenBDs discussion group on Google Groups. Adam Haskell On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just install a JEE web container (I use Tomcat), drop the OBD WAR in > there, and you're done. I think OBD has a standalone version that > includes Jetty, but I'm not 100% sure about that. I know Railo has > such a version, and I've used it with great success. > > cheers, > barneyb > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I've got a personal development machine (with CF8) at my house that > mirrors my hosting company's environment. But I've also got some code which > I'd like to make available to a few friends via HTTP request straight out of > my house off of the same box. I tried giving my friend the IP and doing some > port forwarding in my router, but then ran into the license exception error > for CF8 (totally forgot about that). > > > > Anyway, so now I'm wondering if installing OBD on the same machine (an > Intel based Mac Mini) is an option. I don't want to mess up my CF8 > environment though. > > > > Can anyone advise me on what I could do to make these tools available > remotely using CFML? Thanks in advance. > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Code Scan Tool Released!
Most good languages also have an IDE that can format code for you, check out
Eclipse's (or maybe it is MyEclipse's not sure) Java code formatter it is
very nice and fairly configurable. Unfortunately I've never done one and I
know if I ask Mark he'll tell me to start coding ;)
Adam!
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Sonny Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use Eclipse and CFEclipse. Eclipse uses an XML-based build engine called
> Ant. It seems that Ant would be a perfect fit for something like what
> you're describing. You would be able to code however you like and then run
> the Ant script before committing the code.
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > >That's fine, I wasn't trying to start a flame war!
> > >
> >
> > heehee... yeah, I've never started any of those on here myself .
> >
> > My company has over 150 standards we must adhere to. No tabs, no carriage
> > returns
> >
> > This:
> >
> > if (someVar EQ 0) {
> > Do this
> > }
> >
> > Must be:
> >
> > if(someVar EQ 0){
> > Do this
> > }
> >
> > That's why I've been asking these RegEx questions on the list lately.
> I've
> > gotten a much better handle on them BTW. They're kind of addictive.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Thanks sonny,
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: CF vs .Net or PHP - need arguement help
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They're rebranding and reorganizing from scratch. It's driven by the > Marketing > folks and they want my feedback on what we should use, but the angencies > talk > about that there's more, less expensive developers out there with these > other > technologies. They're just trying to sell what their staff knows so they > can > land the account. I need a list of reputable agencies that use CF and not > just > a CF development house. > > Our company went through a new CIO & CTO, both were very skeptical of ColdFusion coming in. After working with them showing some of the apps and the time it took to produce they began to see the value. It also helps that hey respect me as an individual and see me as technology fan not just a ColdFusion bigot. Regardless, I clearly explained and went through the real cost savings the came from what ColdFusion offered us. I did not focus on CFML or the general CF faster RAD etc talk. I focused on real world examples of how we leveraged ColdFusion internally to save money or develope more application in paralell. I focused in on exact platform features we didn't need to build and maintain ourselves like JMS integrations, file manipulation, charting and webservices. As a side note since I love pimpin the OS side of CFML if you are worried about cost and not utilizing the platform, checking out alternative CFML engines like Open BlueDragon or Railo might be an option. As for reputable agencies, Kroger and Hasbro come to mind as well as GE and Bank of America (though if I recall they really don't do greenfield development with CFML). Not to mention, seemingly, every branch of the government; you could look through all the different gov't agencies that use ColdFusion as well. Ping me off list if you want to talk more about what I've done in Kroger to help CF flurish, heck I'd even be happy to take some personal time and talk with executives there if they want to talk to other companies using CFML. Really at the end of the day in simple terms I evangilised, spoke up and showed I was proud of platform I use and I did so confidently without hesitation. So many times I see folks so proud to be a CF developer but then around others like Java devs or CIO types they cower in a corner overshadowed by thier "superiors." Bah I say stand up and be proud ColdFusion is a great platform, CFML is a great language . Oh and if all else fails Kroger is hiring send me a resume (seriosuly anyone interested send me a resume, Mid-Senior preferably) ;) Adam! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:308573 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldfusion and Java...
3 posts necessary? Anyrate that's beyong the point :)
Have you restarted your app server, I'll assume you are using Jrun so have
you restarted jrun?
Adam Haskell
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Varun Dixit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a Java SDK which has some JAR files and a Class file. I need some
> help figuring out how to deploy the java code and than use it in ColdFusion.
>
> I have put jar files in WEB-INF/lib folder and class file in
> WEB-INF/classes folder. I created an object using createObject("java",
> "myobject"). It gives me a class not found error.
>
> Any help/pointers would be appreciated.
>
>
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Re: CF thinks 0F is boolean.
This is going way off topic from the original thread but still pertinent to cf-talk, licenses and how licenses work is an important thing for anyone using or producing software. I'd assume many folks on this list are producing software, Mike D can always correct me and push me to another HoF list :) You do not own the program, according to most EULAs. Most EULAs outline you own the right to run the application and you own the output of an application. For example, assuming you own a legal copy of MS office, you do not own Microsoft Office's software. What you own is the right to run Microsoft Office's software on a single personal computer that you own. You also have full rights and ownership of documents produced and published with the software you are using. Common misconception in software industry is that you own the software, this is simply not true. Adam Haskell On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 2:25 AM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Adam Haskell wrote: > > I won't say yes or no one way or another on the legality or really even > the > > morality but I will say this puts you in a compromising position for > > submitting work to any open source CFML engine. We've already had the > > discussion surrounding certain comments coming from the CF community > about > > viewing source code and decided that we will most likely never be accept > > code from folks that openly admit to these types of activities. An OS > > project can not risk even in the slightest taking compromised code. > > But if a friend of a friend submitted the code it would be cool? > > I'm glad that the legal battles have played out as they have, for the > most part, so far. Regarding source and whatnot. > > > I love the idea that I couldn't legally fix, or even diagnose a > problem, with something I own. Really I don't love that idea. > I love watching chefs do battle. That's for real. Void a warranty?, > sure, but go to jail for tearing the tags off? Lame! :-P > > There's this whole strange idea about ownership these days. > > Do you know that long ago, things went into the public domain faster > than they do now? Why has that changed? > > Oh well. > > That's good stuff to know, Adam. I guess we can debate the merit of > copyright and whatnot over on community or OT (assuming I sign up with > OT-- where I most likely belong|]). > > Guess any submissions I'd make would be suspect. > > Hopefully it takes more than just knowing about such things as > decompilers-- maybe poor Brad and anyone who read this thread is now > suspect... sorry folks. > > * Is decompilation legal? > > Yes, if restricted to legal uses in the section "Why is a Java > decompiler useful?" For the same reasons that one can photocopy a few > pages from a book, a developer may disassemble or decompile executable > content. We are protected by the notion of "fair-use". Reverse > engineering of an entire application and shiping under a different > name clearly violates both our license agreement with our end users, > and this notion of "fair-use". It is not our objective to see our tool > used in this manner. > > (I hope whoever I "decompiled" this from is ok with the excerpt!) LOL. > > I'm getting out of hand. Peace and potatoes! > > -- > Pick me up > ~ Mom and Dad Save the World > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307419 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF thinks 0F is boolean.
I won't say yes or no one way or another on the legality or really even the morality but I will say this puts you in a compromising position for submitting work to any open source CFML engine. We've already had the discussion surrounding certain comments coming from the CF community about viewing source code and decided that we will most likely never be accept code from folks that openly admit to these types of activities. An OS project can not risk even in the slightest taking compromised code. Adam Haskell On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:58 AM, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sounds very cool. I am one of those "digging" types -- dare I admit it. > I had gotten it in my head that it was illegal to decompile a closed-source > program like Adobe ColdFusion so I have never tried it before. I'm sure > somone would gladly corect me if I am wrong. > > ~Brad > > >JADclipse, a plugin for eclipse that uses the java decompiler, seems > >to reveal a good bit of stuff. > > > >Might be helpful if you're one of those "digging" types. > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307228 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF thinks 0F is boolean.
Good point. on both accounts :-P
Adam Haskell
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 5:34 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF thinks 0F is boolean.
> >
> > 0A is a line feed (pretty sure on this) which is certainly not boolean.
> > I
> > have no idea what 0F is though I thought it had some significance like
> > terminator or something.
>
> To be clear (and just a bit smugly, self-satisfied and pedantic) 0A is just
> a number (a hexadecimal number which is 10 in decimal). 10, in ASCII, is
> a
> line feed, but 0A is just a number. The function char("0A") would return a
> line feed, tho'.
>
> Yup. I can be a picky, picky prick sometimes. ;^)
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
>
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Re: CF thinks 0F is boolean.
0A is a line feed (pretty sure on this) which is certainly not boolean. I have no idea what 0F is though I thought it had some significance like terminator or something. Adam Haskell On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > True, but 0A is also hex and it still returns false for isBoolean. > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hexadecimal :) > > > > > > Adam Haskell > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Fred Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > I have run into an issue with cold fusion, > > > When I try to concatenate the string '0F' & ' ' I get a value that > passes > > > isBoolean(). > > > While this works with any number of leading zeros it does not work with > > any > > > other value besides 'F'. > > > Additionally it only works when you try to append a ' ' space to it. > > > here is a little sample. > > > var test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #isBoolean(test1)#:#test1# > > > #isBoolean(test2)#:#test2# > > > #isBoolean(test3)#:#test3# > > > > > > I have tested on both CF7 and CF8. > > > Does anyone know why this is happening? > > > Thank you in advance. Fred > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF thinks 0F is boolean.
Hexadecimal :) Adam Haskell On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Fred Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have run into an issue with cold fusion, > When I try to concatenate the string '0F' & ' ' I get a value that passes > isBoolean(). > While this works with any number of leading zeros it does not work with any > other value besides 'F'. > Additionally it only works when you try to append a ' ' space to it. > here is a little sample. > var test > > > > > #isBoolean(test1)#:#test1# > #isBoolean(test2)#:#test2# > #isBoolean(test3)#:#test3# > > I have tested on both CF7 and CF8. > Does anyone know why this is happening? > Thank you in advance. Fred > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Which CF editor for Mac?
Yes cfeclipse, but TextMate with the CFML pack is nice as well. If eclipse intemidates you check out pulse (http://www.poweredbypulse.com/) it takes the hassle out of eclipse. Adam Haskell On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eclipse with CFEclipse/CF Extensions? > > I use TextMate for simple file editing (ie, things not in an Eclipse > Project). > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:39 AM, nic olai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > i search for a good & free Coldfusion-Editor for Mac? On PC i use > Homesite+ and it works real good. > > > > If you got a Softwarelink please tell me. > > > > Thank´s and best regards > > Nic. > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307130 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Railo 3 -> Open Source with JBoss
Mark would know more but I just want to echo his sentiment. For something like this to get put together it takes a while. That being said its still what 6-8 months out? So there is a lot of time for more announcements/changes (not FUD this is meant to be a positive statement). I also take issue with the quote of "has to go open source" which implies that is the only way for these alternative engines to survive and that is simply not true. Both companies came to a conclusion that Open source is a viable business solution and are taking that step. It is an awesome step and should be encouraging, maybe some folks and blow life into Smith Project, or maybe Smith can merge with one of the big 2? This is a great annoucement, and for the first time ever there are now more open source CFML engines than closed source CFML engines. Pretty freaking sweet. Adam Haskell On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd say that's a strong certainty. Maybe they think that if BD has to go > open source, Railo won't have a chance? I'm pretty sure that the lead > developer for Railo is on this list...Gert I think is his name? > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 2:42 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Railo 3 -> Open Source with JBoss > > >Railo announced today that they are joining JBoss.org and going Open > Source. > > > >The license will be LGPL2. More information is available on jboss.org > > > >:) > > Very interesting, especially with the integration with messaging and JBoss > caching. I wonder if this has any anything to do with open BlueDragon's > release? > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307018 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Dynamic Code Execution
Open BlueDragon can do this, check out the render function if I recall. I suggest filling an enhancement request for ColdFusion to support this feature if you really want it, I could think of some interesting cases to use it. Adam Haskell On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Tom Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Tom, > > > >That's pretty much the only way to do it! > > > >Put it in a file, and then cflinclude it! :oD > > > >It's how Transfer works. > > > >Mark > > > >On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 7:32 PM, Tom Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> > > Thanks for your speedy reply, Mark. > > Would be cool, wouldn't it, if, say in you could specify > the variable to be executable code which could then be executed on the fly. > > Oh well, Adobe, please read this... :D > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:306366 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF WSRP solution?
I want to say someone on my team has some of this stuff done..keep trying to get him to blog about it...Bob? Adam On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:10 PM, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assuming no-one has already done it, is anyone interested in > participating in an open source project to create a WSRP producer in > CF? I've been looking at this for integration into a Sun Portal server > and I think it would be of benefit for others; many hands make light > work. > > -- > mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: > http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:306035 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: setting page variables in onRequestStart
My only problem with Request scope is that its available _everywhere_. I understand you can be a good developer and not use it in your model or elsewhere but I still dislike the request scope for that reason. Being a person that is constantly working on framework and components to be used in my company I cherish encapsulation and request scope spits in the face of that. Sure Application and Session do too but they server a good purpose for carrying state so I like them :) I do like your point about global variables for the life of the request and being easy to differentiate between those and page variables. I am with Dave though maybe Application or Session would be a better place for that info? Just my 2 cents. Also check out what Sean did with Application.cfc in fusebox very clever to get around most of the limitations/issues with onRequest. Adam Haskell On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right, you can't do that. The variables scope in App.cfc isn't copied > to the template. > > Unless you use onRequest. But that has some drawbacks as well. > > Why not simply simply use the Request scope? > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Richard White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi > > > > is it possible to set page variables in the onRequestStart method of the > application.cfc? > > > > if i enter the following code in the application.cfc: > > > > > > > > and the following code in my page: > > > > #myVariable# > > > > i get an error message when running a page saying myVariable is not > defined > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305989 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Can ColdFusion detect if Flash is available?
Not wrong in this case but it is important to note that the browser does send a wealth of information about itself with each request. So just b/c something is client side does not preclude CF from knowing something about it. Adam On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CF = server.. Flash is client.. so I wouldn't think so.. if I was > wrong it wouldn't be the first time > > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:24 PM, K Simanonok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd like to be able to detect if a user's browser will support Flash, and > ideally be able to tell if the version is up to date enough to handle my > Flash application. Is this possible? > > > > TIA > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305868 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldfusion 8.0.1 Application.cfc issue
Are you using any frameworks? Adam On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Larry Schaberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am quite lost on this one as I have not experienced this yet. We have an > outside application that was built and I am trying to use 1 Application.cfc > versus an Application.cfm. The application uses client variables so in the > main cfc off the root, I have: > > sessionmanagement="yes" sessiontimeout="#createtimespan(0,24,0,0)#"> > > but in any directory I go to, if I do not have an application file in it, > it gives an error that the client management must be enabled. Once I drop > the file in that directory, the error goes away and the page loads fine. It > appears as though CF is not looking in the above directory (root directory) > for the application file. > > > > Assistance would be really appreciated. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305782 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: JMS & ActiveMQ
Dependency conflicts are a fact of life as far as I have found. I'd be surprised if you couldn't just hack the early version of commons out and put the new one in, kind of shocked it presented an issue anyway. We're using WebSphere MQ without issue, but if I recall they repackaged everything into a new namespace so no conflict... I'll try to find the blogs about ActiveMQ...I know there are a few entries out there concerning ActiveMQ and CF (but not sure of the versions involved)... Adam Haskell On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > Does anyone have any experience with CF8 & ActiveMQ integration? > > > > I was attempting to set up activeMQ 5.1 and leverage the ActiveMQ event > gateway, and when starting the example, received a class not found error > for > the connection factory. Based upon this, I added the activeMQ jars to the > CF classpath so CF could access the dependant classes, only to run into > problems with class library versions (i.e. CF8 uses commons-logging v1.0 > and > ActiveMQ uses 1.1). Because of these dependency problems, I had to > downgrade ActiveMQ to version 4.1 and have now successfully delivered and > received messages, but really wanted to use 5.1. > > > > I expected the CF example gateways to work out of the box, and not for me > to > have to install jars onto the classpath to get it to work. I did not see > any notes in the docs regarding any installation being necessary, so I hope > I am just missing something trivial. Can anyone point me in the right > direction? > > > > Adobe hypes CFs easy integration with Java, yet every time I have attempted > to leverage open source software as an integration point, I feel nothing > but > pain (Quartz and now ActiveMQ). Am I missing something here? Is there > some > easy way to get a clean classpath, or to manage these dependency conflicts? > > > > Rich > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305514 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Spry Eclipse Plugin?
I mentioned this to Mark the other week, he thinks all that needs to be done is to build cfEclipse through 3.4. Give it a try and tell him. Adam Haskell On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 5:54 AM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3.4 hasn't been released yet, but it's getting close. > > I've been using 3.4M6 ( http://phoenix.eclipse.org/packages/ ), the EE > package, and it's wonderful. > > Some great improvements have been made in many places. > > I think cfeclipse needs to be installed as a "drop in", which is the > new way of installing plugins the old way (much cleaner). > > Holler if you've got any questions. There's a link for equinox > somewhere around here (the new plugin update manager). > > denstar > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Gerald Guido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>> And Eclipse 3.4 has a WYSIWYG HTML editor, for those pesky table-based > > layouts. > > > > @denstar > > > > Could you point me to that wonderful nugget of joy? With that, CF studio > > will become just another text editor (though awesome). I think the only > > other thing I use it for is the change tag case feature... > > > > G > > > > On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 8:30 PM, Aaron Roberson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Really, are we throwing the baby (DW) out with the bathwater > >> > (commercial license)? > >> > >> Nope. > >> > >> Eclipse just plain destroys dreamweaver, from a coder's perspective. > >> > >> I'm liking JSDT for Eclipse javascript development. W00t3rZ! > >> > >> And Eclipse 3.4 has a WYSIWYG HTML editor, for those pesky table-based > >> layouts. > >> > >> But, no, there is no question in my mind, Eclipse is where it's at. > >> > >> Even if both were free (as in beer) and open, I'd be using Eclipse. > >> > >> Denny > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: VMWare Open BlueDragon image made available
Hows that Tom? Its pretty common practice to ue VM to slice up say a windows server. In fact I think that the image posted is SixSignal's image they plan to use. Nital could clarify on that though. Adam Haskell On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 11 May 2008, Gerald Guido wrote: > > Greg, > > Good deal. Could you provide any more info on the centos distro? A gig > > sounds like it is a Desktop install. Is it one of the existing VM's form > > VMWares Virtual Appliances Center or a custom install? Any admin tools > on > > it like webmin or is it a pure command line interface? > > I wouldn't expect anyone to use the OpenBD provided VM image in > production, so > I think the answers might be a bit moot. > > -- > Tom Chiverton > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England > and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address > is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. > A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any > reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of > Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and > may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you > must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it > nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305130 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: VMWare Open BlueDragon image made available
Also an FYI Peter from the Open BD steering committee has been hard at work getting AMI's set up as well: CentOS 5 Ready2Run AMI: ami-274faa4e Fedora Core 6 Ready2Run AMI: ami-014da868 http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/kbcategory.jspa?categoryID=101 Enjoy! And don't forget to check out OpenBluDragon.org and the group if you have questions. Adam Haskell On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Gerald Guido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg, > Good deal. Could you provide any more info on the centos distro? A gig > sounds like it is a Desktop install. Is it one of the existing VM's form > VMWares Virtual Appliances Center or a custom install? Any admin tools on > it > like webmin or is it a pure command line interface? > > Many TIA, > G > > > > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 3:23 PM, greg h <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Good news! > > > > The following post went up about 1 hour ago: > > > > VMWare Open BlueDragon image made available > > http://blog.sixsigns.com/2008/05/11/vmware-open-bluedragon-image-made- > > available/< > http://blog.sixsigns.com/2008/05/11/vmware-open-bluedragon-image-made-available/ > > > > < > > > http://blog.sixsigns.com/2008/05/11/vmware-open-bluedragon-image-made-available/ > > > > > > > See download link in page at the link above. Note that the download is > of a > > zip that is >1GB. > > > > Happy CF'ing! [image: :-)] > > > > g > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305074 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: mod_jk + blank .jsp-coding
workers.properties or the other .properties (name escapes me) are most likely not configured correctly, that would be my initial thought. Adam Haskell On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:24 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anybody an idea, > what could be wrong if I see > the blank raw java-coding on a .jsp > page coming from Tomcat5 passed to Apache2 > via the module mod_jk ? > Uwe > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:305032 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: JBoss'n it (was: Re: CFMX8 - Standard vs. Enterprise)
I don't want to go through all the quotes but more or less Open BlueDragon is aiming to support Transfer and other frameworks fully. The code drop was just this weekend and was MONTHS ahead of the originally planned date, which was cfUnited time frame. New Atlanta, graciously, decided to drop it at cfObjective to give folks the chance to kick the tires early. We've already found a few bugs, and patched them, and you should see Sean Corfield's posts on additions and what not, he is absolutely a machine. OpenBD's code is amazingly simple to follow and work through, I'll be posting some audio tutorials walking around the code, like Vince did at cf.Objective once I get back home. Adam Haskell ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304758 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: APPLICATION scope unknown in Application.cfc
Since I am feeling froggy.. http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=pseudo "not genuine but having the appearance of" If we called it a constructor it certainly would be wrong but pseudo constructor is pretty freaking accurate. Crap (I know a very technical term) that falls inside cfcomponent but not inside a method declaration runs when an object is created and the end result is the object is returned and ready for use (by the CFML engine's terms). Its not a constructor but it sure has the appearance (or in this case behavior) of one. So I would argue it is pretty technically correct. Your opinions may vary and I am ok with that :) Adam Haskell On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am aware of that, I just don't need to agree with it. > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "pseudo constructor" is pretty much the de-facto way to describe code > that > > runs outside of any cffunction tags in a CFC. I'd actually argue that by > > trying to come up with yet another way to label it, you're inadvertently > > making it more confusing than it already is. Sometimes you just have to > obey > > the crowd. ;-) > > > > Regards, > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Andrew Scott < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I wouldn't call that a pseudo constructor. I do realise thats what has > > > been adopted, does it make it right. No I don't believe so. > > > > > > Because technically it is not I do know that is what people are > > > saying, and for the life of me I do not know why. > > > > > > Consider this then.. > > > > > > > > > > > > . Set some local variables > > > > > > . Some private and public methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > By such definition, if we instantiate the above code and the > > > cfcomponent is a pseudo constructor. Then by that same definition we > > > would then have to say that the methods are now a nested class. > > > > > > just because Coldfusion doesn't have a constructor by default, doesn't > > > mean we should make it more confusing than it already is. i understand > > > why people are thinking this way, but I don't believe it should > > > continue in that manner either. > > > > > > Just my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:05 PM, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > No, he means the pseudo constructor, before and outside of any of > the > > > > methods within Application.cfc. > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Andrew Scott > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > pseudo constructor? > > > > > > > > > > I think, you mean defined as local variables to that component. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: > > > > http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:304427 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
