Re: HomeSite

2012-10-09 Thread Lewis Sellers

I don't use it much but dreamweaver (at least the CS5 version anyway) seems
to have decent code editing abilities -- it might make some sense to you to
use that considering it's an Adobe product.

After using homesite for many years myself, I eventually gave up on it, and
aside from using pspad with some plugins, eventually settled on Eclipse.
Eclipse ... can be sluggish, even after doing a lot of tweaks to speed it
up, but it does do almost everything you'd want and a lot of folk across
several disciplines use it. So I'd probably suggest giving it a try for a
while.

On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Richard Colman  wrote:

>
> Hate to bring this up again, but I have used Homesite for many years and
> do like it.
>
> I need to transfer the application to a new computer, and the original
> install disks are long gone.
>
> Does anyone know of a source to obtain or purchase?
>
> TNX,
>
> signed ... the dinosaur ...
>
> 

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Re: HomeSite

2012-10-08 Thread Edward Chanter

I was also supplied with dreamweaver at one point so if you have any old DW
CDs floating around you might find it on there.

On 8 October 2012 01:22, Bobby  wrote:

>
> I believe it was in the CFWACK for version 4.5 or 5. Maybe you have that
> book or know someone who does?
>
> On 10/7/12 10:27 AM, "Richard Colman"  wrote:
>
> >
> >Hate to bring this up again, but I have used Homesite for many years and
> >do like it.
> >
> >I need to transfer the application to a new computer, and the original
> >install disks are long gone.
> >
> >Does anyone know of a source to obtain or purchase?
> >
> >TNX,
> >
> >signed ... the dinosaur ...
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: HomeSite

2012-10-07 Thread Bobby

I believe it was in the CFWACK for version 4.5 or 5. Maybe you have that
book or know someone who does?

On 10/7/12 10:27 AM, "Richard Colman"  wrote:

>
>Hate to bring this up again, but I have used Homesite for many years and
>do like it.
>
>I need to transfer the application to a new computer, and the original
>install disks are long gone.
>
>Does anyone know of a source to obtain or purchase?
>
>TNX,
>
>signed ... the dinosaur ...
>
>

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HomeSite

2012-10-07 Thread Richard Colman

Hate to bring this up again, but I have used Homesite for many years and 
do like it.

I need to transfer the application to a new computer, and the original 
install disks are long gone.

Does anyone know of a source to obtain or purchase?

TNX,

signed ... the dinosaur ...

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-09-24 Thread .jonah

And there are CFML syntax coloring and code completion extensions.

On 9/24/12 12:32 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
> That's just appearing! Michael, are you censoring me?
> (No, actually, I've just realized I'm having email server problems...)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:14 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?
>
>
> +1 for Sublime Text 2!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:pkuk...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:52 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?
>
>
> Sublime is amazing I have just switched.  It's not free but if you use it
> as the free version its the same just has a pop up to purchase every now
> and then.
>
> Highly recommended for a speedy editor.
>
> Paul.
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:
>
>> Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2
>>
>> http://www.sublimetext.com/2
>>
>> a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite
>>
>> On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
>>> I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
>>> been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
>>> environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
>>> issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML,
>> CSS,
>>> JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
>>> heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design
>> class
>>> and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
>>>
>>> Platform is WinXP.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions,
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours,
>>
>> Kym Kovan
>> mbcomms.net.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-09-24 Thread Rick Faircloth

That's just appearing! Michael, are you censoring me?
(No, actually, I've just realized I'm having email server problems...)

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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?


+1 for Sublime Text 2!

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From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:pkuk...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:52 PM
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Sublime is amazing I have just switched.  It's not free but if you use it
as the free version its the same just has a pop up to purchase every now
and then.

Highly recommended for a speedy editor.

Paul.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2
>
> http://www.sublimetext.com/2
>
> a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite
>
> On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
> >
> > I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
> > been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
> > environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
> > issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML,
> CSS,
> > JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
> > heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design
> class
> > and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
> >
> > Platform is WinXP.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 





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RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-09-24 Thread Rick Faircloth

+1 for Sublime Text 2!

-Original Message-
From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:pkuk...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:52 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?


Sublime is amazing I have just switched.  It's not free but if you use it
as the free version its the same just has a pop up to purchase every now
and then.

Highly recommended for a speedy editor.

Paul.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2
>
> http://www.sublimetext.com/2
>
> a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite
>
> On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
> >
> > I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
> > been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
> > environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
> > issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML,
> CSS,
> > JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
> > heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design
> class
> > and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
> >
> > Platform is WinXP.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 



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RE: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-21 Thread Robert Harrison

>   Robert, what are the most recent tag updates that you have?

I have the updates for CF8 and CF8.01.  I think that was the last update 
issued. 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:04 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Looking for Homesite+


Robert, what are the most recent tag updates that yo

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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-21 Thread Tim Claremont

Robert, what are the most recent tag updates that you have?



> I have the old Homesite 5.5, but you'll need a product code to install 
> that. If you have it installed I can give you the most recent tag 
> updates (which I also have).The last supported version of CF was 8.01. 
> If you want I can sent you those updates off-list. Let me know how you 
> want them. The tags are about 7Mb.  Contact me off-list if you want 
> these. 
> 
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RE: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-21 Thread Robert Harrison

I have the old Homesite 5.5, but you'll need a product code to install that. If 
you have it installed I can give you the most recent tag updates (which I also 
have).The last supported version of CF was 8.01. If you want I can sent you 
those updates off-list. Let me know how you want them. The tags are about 7Mb.  
Contact me off-list if you want these. 

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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-21 Thread Pete Freitag

FYI Just saw, this if you go here:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=jrun&loc=en_us you can
download Homesite 5.5

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM, <> wrote:

>
>  >> I just need to update the tag definitions to the latest version of CFM.
>
> However, what is the last supported CF version and where are the updates
> available ?
>
> 

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RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-19 Thread Eric Roberts

The Adobe cloud offering offers a student/faculty rate...not sure if it is
free or not, but worth checking out...it gives you access to all of the
adobe applications for downloadincluding dreamweaver.


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-Original Message-
From: Donnie Bachan (Gmail) [mailto:donnie.bac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?


I know this option isn't free but you may want to contact them and see if
you can work something out with them since it's for educational use.
http://www.sublimetext.com/
This is probably the best editor I've ever used. It is very similar to
Homesite in may respects but it just takes it to a thousand levels up!

HTH.

Best Regards,
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On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Larry Lyons  wrote:

>
> >I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I 
> >have been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in 
> >our environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it 
> >has issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with 
> >HTML,
> CSS,
> >JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a 
> >super heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web 
> >design
> class
> >and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
> >
> >Platform is WinXP.
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> >Pete
>
> NotePad ++ has a CFML plugin.
>
> Also if you install Eclipse with the Webtools plugin that will cover 
> HTML/JS/CSS, and use CFEclipse to handle the CFML portion.
>
> hth,
> larry
>
>
> 



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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-19 Thread Donnie Bachan (Gmail)

I know this option isn't free but you may want to contact them and see if
you can work something out with them since it's for educational use.
http://www.sublimetext.com/
This is probably the best editor I've ever used. It is very similar to
Homesite in may respects but it just takes it to a thousand levels up!

HTH.

Best Regards,
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On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Larry Lyons  wrote:

>
> >I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
> >been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
> >environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
> >issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML,
> CSS,
> >JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
> >heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design
> class
> >and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
> >
> >Platform is WinXP.
> >
> >Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> >Pete
>
> NotePad ++ has a CFML plugin.
>
> Also if you install Eclipse with the Webtools plugin that will cover
> HTML/JS/CSS, and use CFEclipse to handle the CFML portion.
>
> hth,
> larry
>
>
> 

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-19 Thread Larry Lyons

>I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
>been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
>environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
>issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML, CSS,
>JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
>heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design class
>and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
>
>Platform is WinXP.
>
>Thanks for any suggestions,
>
>Pete

NotePad ++ has a CFML plugin. 

Also if you install Eclipse with the Webtools plugin that will cover 
HTML/JS/CSS, and use CFEclipse to handle the CFML portion.

hth,
larry 


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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 >> I just need to update the tag definitions to the latest version of CFM.

However, what is the last supported CF version and where are the updates 
available ?

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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Mike Chabot

If you have any old Macromedia demo/trial CDs, the full installer should be
on those as well.

-Mike Chabot

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Michael Muller wrote:

>
> I recently bought a new laptop and am installing all my apps on it, until
> I realized I can't find my old Dreamweaver CD anymore. Homesite+ is my
> editor of choice. I know this is a really old program and everyone has
> moved on to new tools, but I really like Homesite+ and am used to all the
> hot key commands. Is there anywhere I can get this app without having to
> buy a copy of the old DW CD on eBay? I tried looking online but all I see
> are torrents that want to install all kinds of other crap on your machine.
> Thanks. Mik
>
>
> 

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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Michael Muller

> I recently bought a new laptop and am installing all my apps on it, 
> until I realized I can't find my old Dreamweaver CD anymore. 

Ahah. I found the CD. Woohoo! Now I just need to update the tag definitions to 
the latest version of CFM. Obviously this one came with CF5, and I'm now on 
CF9. 


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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Russ Michaels

it was only distributed with old versions of DW and not in the current CD's
but a lot of folks here are still using it, so I think your chances of
getting a copy from someone here are pretty good.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:21 PM, <> wrote:

>
>  >>It would be nice if Adobe would opensource Homesite+
>
> Even better if they continued supporting it.
> No other CF editor ever reached it's level of versatility (except fot
> things we don't need of course, ie: Eclipse)
>
> 

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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Wil Genovese

"It would be nice if Adobe would opensource Homesite+"

Then someone would have to learn how to program in Delphi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macromedia_HomeSite

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borland_Delphi




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On Aug 16, 2012, at 11:15 AM, Bill Franklin wrote:

> 
> It would be nice if Adobe would opensource Homesite+
> 
> Freundliche Grüße / Best regards,
> 
> Bill Franklin
> Computer Integrated Mfg.
> 
> 
> 
> Bayer CropScience LP
> 8400 Hawthorne Road, Room 2447
> Kansas City, MO 64120
> Tel: +1 816 242 2148
> Fax: +1 816 242 2047
> E-mail: bill.frank...@bayer.com
> Web: http://www.bayercropscience.com
> 
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> Noack, Rüdiger Scheitza, Michael A. Schulz
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> Düsseldorf, HRB 46985
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Muller [mailto:ad...@montaguema.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:01 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Looking for Homesite+
> 
> 
> I recently bought a new laptop and am installing all my apps on it, until I 
> realized I can't find my old Dreamweaver CD anymore. Homesite+ is my editor 
> of choice. I know this is a really old program and everyone has moved on to 
> new tools, but I really like Homesite+ and am used to all the hot key 
> commands. Is there anywhere I can get this app without having to buy a copy 
> of the old DW CD on eBay? I tried looking online but all I see are torrents 
> that want to install all kinds of other crap on your machine. Thanks. Mik 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 >>It would be nice if Adobe would opensource Homesite+

Even better if they continued supporting it.
No other CF editor ever reached it's level of versatility (except fot things we 
don't need of course, ie: Eclipse)

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RE: Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Bill Franklin

It would be nice if Adobe would opensource Homesite+

Freundliche Grüße / Best regards,
 
Bill Franklin
Computer Integrated Mfg.


 
Bayer CropScience LP
8400 Hawthorne Road, Room 2447
Kansas City, MO 64120
Tel: +1 816 242 2148
Fax: +1 816 242 2047
E-mail: bill.frank...@bayer.com
Web: http://www.bayercropscience.com

Vorstand: Sandra E. Peterson, Vorsitzende   |  Lykele van der Broek, Achim 
Noack, Rüdiger Scheitza, Michael A. Schulz
Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Werner Baumann
Sitz der Gesellschaft: Monheim am Rhein   |   Eintragung: Amtsgericht 
Düsseldorf, HRB 46985

-Original Message-
From: Michael Muller [mailto:ad...@montaguema.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 11:01 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Looking for Homesite+


I recently bought a new laptop and am installing all my apps on it, until I 
realized I can't find my old Dreamweaver CD anymore. Homesite+ is my editor of 
choice. I know this is a really old program and everyone has moved on to new 
tools, but I really like Homesite+ and am used to all the hot key commands. Is 
there anywhere I can get this app without having to buy a copy of the old DW CD 
on eBay? I tried looking online but all I see are torrents that want to install 
all kinds of other crap on your machine. Thanks. Mik 




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Looking for Homesite+

2012-08-16 Thread Michael Muller

I recently bought a new laptop and am installing all my apps on it, until I 
realized I can't find my old Dreamweaver CD anymore. Homesite+ is my editor of 
choice. I know this is a really old program and everyone has moved on to new 
tools, but I really like Homesite+ and am used to all the hot key commands. Is 
there anywhere I can get this app without having to buy a copy of the old DW CD 
on eBay? I tried looking online but all I see are torrents that want to install 
all kinds of other crap on your machine. Thanks. Mik 


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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-14 Thread Raymond Camden

I'd argue that the 'spirit' of that mode should preclude someone from
using it in a classroom environment. (Unless the licenses are paid for
of course.)

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Paul Kukiel  wrote:
>
> Sublime is amazing I have just switched.  It's not free but if you use it
> as the free version its the same just has a pop up to purchase every now
> and then.
>
> Highly recommended for a speedy editor.
>
> Paul.
>

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Kukiel

Sublime is amazing I have just switched.  It's not free but if you use it
as the free version its the same just has a pop up to purchase every now
and then.

Highly recommended for a speedy editor.

Paul.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2
>
> http://www.sublimetext.com/2
>
> a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite
>
> On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
> >
> > I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
> > been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
> > environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
> > issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML,
> CSS,
> > JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
> > heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design
> class
> > and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
> >
> > Platform is WinXP.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Steve Milburn

Sublime Text 2 is not free.

-Steve

On Monday, August 13, 2012, Kym Kovan wrote:

>
> Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2
>
> http://www.sublimetext.com/2
>
> a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite
>
> On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
> >
> > I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
> > been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
> > environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
> > issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML,
> CSS,
> > JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
> > heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design
> class
> > and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
> >
> > Platform is WinXP.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions,
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Kym Kovan

Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2

http://www.sublimetext.com/2

a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite

On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:
>
> I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
> been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
> environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
> issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML, CSS,
> JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
> heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design class
> and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
>
> Platform is WinXP.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> Pete
>
>


-- 
Yours,

Kym Kovan
mbcomms.net.au



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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Gerald Guido

>>Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in
to
install?

You have to do it manually. The installer does not work. Go here and DL the
latest version and follow the instructions in the zip file:
https://bitbucket.org/bbluemel/nppcoldfusion/downloads

That worked like a charm.

HTH
G!

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Tim L (g-mail)  wrote:

>
> Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to
> install?
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Gerald Guido  >wrote:
>
> >
> > 1++ for Notepad++.
> >
> > Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code
> > hinting and code complete. Not as light weight as Notepad++ but it is a
> > very nice product.
> > http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
> >
> > HTH
> > G!
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Carl Von Stetten
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Another +1 for Notepad++.
> > > -Carl
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Perez, Percy

---

nppColdFusion v0.8.1

---

http://bitbucket.org/bbluemel/nppcoldfusion/





-Original Message-
From: Tim L (g-mail) [mailto:homet...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 2:01 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?





what website did you go to for downloading... this site:

http://www.nppcf.com  comes up page not found



On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Perez, Percy 
mailto:per...@versa-valves.com>>wrote:



>

> It would not install successfully using the plugin manager.

>

> I installed manually.

>

>

> -Original Message-

> From: Tim L (g-mail) [mailto:homet...@gmail.com]

> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 1:49 PM

> To: cf-talk

> Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

>

>

> Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to

> install?

>

> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Gerald Guido  >wrote:

>

> >

> > 1++ for Notepad++.

> >

> > Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code

> > hinting and code complete. Not as light weight as Notepad++ but it is a

> > very nice product.

> > http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit

> >

> > HTH

> > G!

> >

> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Carl Von Stetten

> > mailto:vonner.li...@vonner.net>>wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Another +1 for Notepad++.

> > > -Carl

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>





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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Tim L (g-mail)

what website did you go to for downloading... this site:
http://www.nppcf.com  comes up page not found

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Perez, Percy wrote:

>
> It would not install successfully using the plugin manager.
>
> I installed manually.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim L (g-mail) [mailto:homet...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 1:49 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?
>
>
> Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to
> install?
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Gerald Guido  >wrote:
>
> >
> > 1++ for Notepad++.
> >
> > Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code
> > hinting and code complete. Not as light weight as Notepad++ but it is a
> > very nice product.
> > http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
> >
> > HTH
> > G!
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Carl Von Stetten
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Another +1 for Notepad++.
> > > -Carl
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Perez, Percy

It would not install successfully using the plugin manager.

I installed manually.


-Original Message-
From: Tim L (g-mail) [mailto:homet...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 1:49 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?


Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to
install?

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:

>
> 1++ for Notepad++.
>
> Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code
> hinting and code complete. Not as light weight as Notepad++ but it is a
> very nice product.
> http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
>
> HTH
> G!
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Carl Von Stetten
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Another +1 for Notepad++.
> > -Carl
> >
> >
>
> 



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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Tim L (g-mail)

Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to
install?

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:

>
> 1++ for Notepad++.
>
> Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code
> hinting and code complete. Not as light weight as Notepad++ but it is a
> very nice product.
> http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit
>
> HTH
> G!
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Carl Von Stetten
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Another +1 for Notepad++.
> > -Carl
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Gerald Guido

1++ for Notepad++.

Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code
hinting and code complete. Not as light weight as Notepad++ but it is a
very nice product.
http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit

HTH
G!

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Carl Von Stetten
wrote:

>
> Another +1 for Notepad++.
> -Carl
>
> 

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Carl Von Stetten

Another +1 for Notepad++.
-Carl

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Russ Michaels

+1 for Notepad++


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Paul Ihrig  wrote:

>
> http://www.ultraedit.com/downloads/ultraedit_download.html
>
> http://download.cnet.com/HomeSite/3000-10247_4-10001199.html
>
>
> 

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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Ihrig

http://www.ultraedit.com/downloads/ultraedit_download.html

http://download.cnet.com/HomeSite/3000-10247_4-10001199.html


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RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J

Notepad++ http://notepad-plus-plus.org

It even has a plugin for ColdFusion.


-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 10:16 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?


I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML, CSS,
JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design class
and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.

Platform is WinXP.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Pete




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Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Scott Stewart

I think there's a CF "plugin" for Notepad++


On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus
wrote:

>
> I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
> been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
> environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
> issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML, CSS,
> JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
> heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design class
> and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.
>
> Platform is WinXP.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> Pete
>
>
> 

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Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus

I teach web design and web programming at a public high school.  I have
been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our
environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has
issues).  Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML, CSS,
JavaScript, and CF, that are also free?  It doesn't need to be a super
heavy duty app like Eclipse, in fact, I tried that with my web design class
and it was a nightmare because of its complexity.

Platform is WinXP.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Pete


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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-14 Thread Sean Corfield

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Larry Lyons  wrote:
> FWIW, the other Eclipse based IDE for CF, CFEclipse runs on Linux.

Yes, and if, like me, you regularly switch between a big Mac desktop
and a small Linux netbook, it becomes very clear, very quickly just
how much more CFBuilder brings to the table (than CFEclipse) and why
CFBuilder is worth every penny of its $299 sticker price.

No disrespect to CFEclipse - it's a great open source project and I
used it a lot years ago and I use it heavily today when I'm on my
netbook - but it is a pale shadow next to CFBuilder's full feature
set. I can't comment on how the free "Express" edition of CFBuilder
compares tho'...
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-14 Thread Larry Lyons

FWIW, the other Eclipse based IDE for CF, CFEclipse runs on Linux.

>On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question...  Does the CFBuilder
>Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box?  I can understand the standalone
>being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the
>Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work?  I wanted to give it a try
>again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere.
>
>Eric 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-14 Thread Matthew Williams

Well, it's installed.  I've not done anything but open it up, but I 
gotta say, it opens a hell of a lot faster than DW CS4 ever did.


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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-14 Thread Jerry Barnes

"I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving up on
using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF."

I agree 100% with this.  And it's not hating on CF.  It's just using CF's
stronger attributes (server side computing) and using other tools for
client-side.

It is very tempting anytime someone asks a question about cfform or cflayout
to advise someone to switch to an alternative method, but I hold my tongue.
To each their own.


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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Larry Lyons

Not old just started early. And that cheap university didn't want to update the 
PDP system for the psych department.

That said, you may want to check out Ray Camden's blog. He has a lot of entries 
on developing for mobile apps. See 
http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/Mobile

Also Ben Nadel may have some blog posts about it.


>Ok, Ok, all you old people have your memories 
>while me as a 70 year old upstart can only go 
>back to my C-64 days, which seems only last week ;)
>
>I REALLY like when you guys get discussing old school vs new school.
>
>I do have a quick question tho:
>What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will 
>work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my
>work?
>
>Terry 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Larry Lyons

> > After punching all that data in I was walking to the 
> > card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... 
> 
> I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it.
> 
> If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay 
> ordered, I'd get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then 
> you remove the risk of them separating in transit.
> Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard 
> boxes had been invented back then? :P
> 
> Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're 
> going and not be clumsy. ;) 

I seem to remember that when I asked for one the lab assistant said, 
Boxes?!?! Boxex!?! We don't need no stinkin' boxes!.

That's what I got for selecting a very underfunded public university. 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Wil Genovese

I don't have time to play with this now.  But it looks like there is a way to 
manually update the Visual JQuery builder to 1.4.2 - If I understand how 
CFBuilder was put together, the JQuery view came as part of the Aptana features.

https://github.com/andreberg/Aptana-Studio-2-jQuery1.4.2-Plugin



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On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> 
> Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it
> looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also
> 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\
> 
> I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving
> up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons  wrote:
>> 
>>> Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
>>> development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
>>> as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
>>> are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
>>> is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
>>> since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
>>> 
>>> Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
>>> DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
>>> 
>> 
>> For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. 
>> CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax 
>> and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this 
>> flavour of Eclipse.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden

Hmmm. The Visual jQuery view _loaded_, but doesn't actually do anything.

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
> Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it
> looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also
> 'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\
>
> I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving
> up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons  wrote:
>>
>>>Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
>>>development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
>>>as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
>>>are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
>>>is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
>>>since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
>>>
>>>Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
>>>DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
>>>
>>
>> For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. 
>> CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax 
>> and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this 
>> flavour of Eclipse.
>>
>> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Raymond Camden

Interesting - I had no idea about the visual jquery view. However it
looks to be -quite- old. Also, CFB's built in jQuery support is also
'stuck' back in 1.3.x with no way to update it. :\

I hate to sound like I'm hating on CFB - I love CFB - but I'm giving
up on using it for front end dev and just going to use it for pure CF.


On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Larry Lyons  wrote:
>
>>Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
>>development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
>>as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
>>are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
>>is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
>>since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
>>
>>Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
>>DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
>>
>
> For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. 
> CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax 
> and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this 
> flavour of Eclipse.
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Larry Lyons

>From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what
>that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in
>Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
>

While DW does have an SVN integration, I've never been able to get it to work 
adequately. I either use an Eclipse PLugin like subversion or TortoiseSVN 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Larry Lyons

>Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
>development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
>as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
>are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
>is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
>since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
>
>Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
>DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
>

For JQuery and other JS development I just use another Eclipse Plugin. 
CFBuilder has the Visual Jquery view. Also MyEclipse has some very good Ajax 
and Jquery views as well. In addition to all the other advantages of this 
flavour of Eclipse. 

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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Robert Harrison

> > After punching all that data in I was walking to the card reader 
> > with them in one huge stack and I tripped...

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Roger Austin

 Peter Boughton  wrote: 
> 
> > After punching all that data in I was walking to the 
> > card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... 
> 
> I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it.
> 
> If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay ordered, I'd 
> get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then you remove the risk 
> of them separating in transit.
> Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard boxes 
> had been invented back then? :P
> 
> Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're going and 
> not be clumsy. ;) 

I always had them in boxes. You didn't want to tie them up or use too 
many rubber bands or sometimes they wouldn't go through the readers 
properly. Paper tape from the teletypes were similarly sensitive at 
times, but much more forgiving than cards. I still have a paper tape 
reader in my office in case there is something in our regulatory 
archive on paper tape.

As a side note, the paper used for cards was really nice card stock.
Used cards and the dots from the paper tape punch offered incredible 
opportunities for pranks. You never left your windows cracked in the 
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Peter Boughton

> After punching all that data in I was walking to the 
> card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... 

I've heard a similar story a few times, and I don't get it.

If I had a large stack of cards, especially one that had to stay ordered, I'd 
get a piece of string and make a quick bundle, and then you remove the risk of 
them separating in transit.
Alternatively, a simple box would probably work - I assume cardboard boxes had 
been invented back then? :P

Of course, the less high-tech solution is to just look where you're going and 
not be clumsy. ;) 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-13 Thread Jerry Barnes

"That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to move
to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm
really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it
supports JavaScript."


It's only a matter of time.  I am slowly migrating to the mac.  When I am
using my mac, I use Dreamweaver CS 5.  Compared to the older versions of DW,
it's not bad at all.  I like it better than CFEclipse.  And as you said, it
does a nice job with Javascript (very nice with the continuing growth of
jQuery).

I've already started customizing the tags in DW.  I had so many macros and
customizations that made Homesite my tool of choice.  After enough
customization, DW will probably be a more than capable replacement.

Now, if they would only implement tabs as spaces.

J


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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Eric Roberts

Probably whenever whatever will replace GIT starts to become popular LOL

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Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Williams 
wrote:
> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?

Yes, DW finally got SVN after years and years of people begging for version
control support. Back in the DW2 days, the Macromedia Web Team were begging
for CVS support internally! So eventually DW gets SVN support, just about
the time most everyone begins to switch to git...
we'll see whether it ever gets git support :(

> As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to 
> play on so it's an issue left long in the dust.

I I find DW CS4 runs OK on my i7 (iMac) but it's still a lot slower than I
would expect on such a powerful machine. Does DW CS5.5 have improved
performance, Ray?

> I have DW CS4 installed, but since I
> offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their 
> work into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it.

Yeah, that's kinda my position in my work...
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Sean Corfield

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Matthew Williams
 wrote:
> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?

Yes, DW finally got SVN after years and years of people begging for
version control support. Back in the DW2 days, the Macromedia Web Team
were begging for CVS support internally! So eventually DW gets SVN
support, just about the time most everyone begins to switch to git...
we'll see whether it ever gets git support :(

> As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to
> play on so it's an issue left long in the dust.

I I find DW CS4 runs OK on my i7 (iMac) but it's still a lot slower
than I would expect on such a powerful machine. Does DW CS5.5 have
improved performance, Ray?

> I have DW CS4 installed, but since I
> offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their work
> into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it.

Yeah, that's kinda my position in my work...
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Gerald Guido

>>it's been a while
since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.

Really now? Aptana is a fantastic editor for JS. Intrigued, I gave DW 5.5 a
test spin and it's JS/jjQuery support is indeed VERY impressive.  Thanx for
the heads up.

BTW in order to try it out I had to DL the entire Master Collection. All
five GIGs of it. There is no stand alone DW 5.5 DL (that I could find at
least) on the Adobe Site.

G!

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:

>
> Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
> development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
> as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
> are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
> is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
> since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
>
> Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
> DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams
>  wrote:
> >
> > That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the
> > time was I got a new laptop.  The version of DW I was using at the time
> > didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at
> > 100% every time you used it.  It made for a seriously bad day to have it
> > running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship.  Since I
> > don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type
> > dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it.
> >
> >
> > Matthew Williams
> > Geodesic Gr
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Mark Drew

It's not the CFBuilder's team's fault really. The licensing software adobe uses 
is win/mac only.  Linux is still a very small market still. I am surprised that 
Adobe supported Mac for so many years (when it was like 3% of the market) 
before the last few year's boom. 

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On 12 Jun 2011, at 21:21, "Eric Roberts"  
wrote:

> 
> That's what I thought, but wanted to verify.  Not very smart on Adobe's part
> since Eclipse is on *nix and mac...  Thanks!
> 
> Eric
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 02:57 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5
> 
> 
> CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts
>  wrote:
>> 
>> On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question...  Does the 
>> CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box?  I can understand the 
>> standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together 
>> using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work?  I wanted to 
>> give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version
> anywhere.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Eric Roberts

That's what I thought, but wanted to verify.  Not very smart on Adobe's part
since Eclipse is on *nix and mac...  Thanks!

Eric

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CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts
 wrote:
>
> On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question...  Does the 
> CFBuilder Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box?  I can understand the 
> standalone being a windows only thing as they put the package together 
> using the Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work?  I wanted to 
> give it a try again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version
anywhere.
>
> Eric
>



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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden

CFB - as a standalone or plugin, is Windows/Mac only.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts
 wrote:
>
> On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question...  Does the CFBuilder
> Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box?  I can understand the standalone
> being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the
> Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work?  I wanted to give it a try
> again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere.
>
> Eric
>

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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Eric Roberts

On the Dev UI discussion...I have a related question...  Does the CFBuilder
Plugin work on Eclipse on a linux box?  I can understand the standalone
being a windows only thing as they put the package together using the
Windows Binaries...but would the plugin work?  I wanted to give it a try
again with the new version...but I didn't see a *nix version anywhere.

Eric

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Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Terry Troxel 
wrote:
> I do have a quick question tho:
> What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will 
> work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to 
> test my work?

If we ignore some of the client side capabilities of CF, like the Ajax-ui
stuff, then the answer is - of course. CF generates stuff.
That can HTML. XML. JSON. RayHTML, whatever. Therefore it isn't that CF is
"supported" on a smartphone it's that CF can output anything you want

As for emulators - you can emulate Android phones via the free Android SDK
on any platform. For IOS, unfortunately, you have to have a Mac if you want
the "official" emulator. But you can always get by with Safari and see how
it looks.



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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Terry Troxel  wrote:
> I do have a quick question tho:
> What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will
> work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my
> work?

If we ignore some of the client side capabilities of CF, like the
Ajax-ui stuff, then the answer is - of course. CF generates stuff.
That can HTML. XML. JSON. RayHTML, whatever. Therefore it isn't that
CF is "supported" on a smartphone it's that CF can output anything you
want

As for emulators - you can emulate Android phones via the free Android
SDK on any platform. For IOS, unfortunately, you have to have a Mac if
you want the "official" emulator. But you can always get by with
Safari and see how it looks.

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Russ Michaels

ah the old C64, that was my favourite 6502 Assembler was awesome.


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> Here is an Adobe page about DW and SVN.
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>
> >
> > Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only
> > an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier
> >> in my head.  At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just
> >> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items.  I've not dived into
> >> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial
> incentive).
> >>
> >> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?  95%
> >> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to
> >> the team I work with to have it all combined into the I
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Wil Genovese

The SVN client 1.6 will work with older 1.4.x SVN servers.  But the reverse is 
not true.  Also, if you have two SVN clients on your desktop, you should make 
sure they are the same version.  If a repo was checked out with a 1.6.x client 
you cannot use a 1.4.x client. 



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On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> 
> From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what
> that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in
> Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
>> Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only
>> an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier
>>> in my head.  At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just
>>> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items.  I've not dived into
>>> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive).
>>> 
>>> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?  95%
>>> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to
>>> the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE.
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Wil Genovese

Here is an Adobe page about DW and SVN.



Wil Genovese
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Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

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www.trunkful.com

On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:

> 
> Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only
> an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams
>  wrote:
>> 
>> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier
>> in my head.  At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just
>> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items.  I've not dived into
>> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive).
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?  95%
>> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to
>> the team I work with to have it all combined into the I
> 
> 

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Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Terry Troxel

Ok, Ok, all you old people have your memories 
while me as a 70 year old upstart can only go 
back to my C-64 days, which seems only last week ;)

I REALLY like when you guys get discussing old school vs new school.

I do have a quick question tho:
What pointers do you have to makes sure a website written in CF8 will 
work on a smartphone and are there any emulators I could download to test my
work?

Terry 


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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

I remember using a book for logarithms, and a slide rule, beat that, lol

Thank goodness the ZX81 came along ;)

Jenny
 


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>>Sent: 12 June 2011 17:44
>>To: cf-talk
>>Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5
>>
>>
>>
>>Not that it's even close, but I remember hitting a line limit when
>>writing Pascal programs on my Apple 2e. I was devastated. :)



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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Matthew Williams

Well, I guess since I'm a full time daytime dev again (after a 5 year 
stint as a full time CF server admin... I didn't change by choice), and 
I'm supposed to have access to the entire Adobe creative suite, I 
suppose it's time to give it a whirl again.


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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden

Not that it's even close, but I remember hitting a line limit when
writing Pascal programs on my Apple 2e. I was devastated. :)

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Larry Lyons  wrote:
>
>>Ditto.  Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover,
>>using 9000+ key punch cards.
>>
>>IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and
>>Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects.
>>
>
> In second year when I was taking Advanced Design and Data Analysis, I did a 
> study that ended up having over 300 subjects. Each one filled in a 200 item 
> questionnaire. Aside from the JCL and the stats program, the data cards took 
> 6 cards (one per item response). After punching all that data in I was 
> walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped...



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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Larry Lyons

>Ditto.  Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover,
>using 9000+ key punch cards.
>
>IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and
>Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects.
>

In second year when I was taking Advanced Design and Data Analysis, I did a 
study that ended up having over 300 subjects. Each one filled in a 200 item 
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6 cards (one per item response). After punching all that data in I was 
walking to the card reader with them in one huge stack and I tripped... 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Larry Lyons

>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive, moving
>the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually
>a cassette tape.
>
>My code is VERY precise. Just saying.
>
>Mark Drew

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Russ Michaels

I always used TortoiseSVN anyway, but i see DW does include SVN now. The
only reason I don;t use it is that you get conflicts if you try to use 2
tools to manage SVN you end up having problems if they don;t both support
the same version.



On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Tony Weeg  wrote:

>
> +420 for dw cs5
>
> nothing compares
>
> Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.
>
> On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
>
> >
> > Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
> > development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
> > as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
> > are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
> > is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
> > since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
> >
> > Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
> > DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the
> >> time was I got a new laptop.  The version of DW I was using at the time
> >> didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at
> >> 100% every time you used it.  It made for a seriously bad day to have it
> >> running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship.  Since I
> >> don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type
> >> dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Matthew Williams
> >> Geodesic Gr
> >
> >
>
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Tony Weeg

+420 for dw cs5

nothing compares

Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.

On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:

> 
> Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
> development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
> as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
> are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
> is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
> since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
> 
> Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
> DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams
>  wrote:
>> 
>> That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the
>> time was I got a new laptop.  The version of DW I was using at the time
>> didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at
>> 100% every time you used it.  It made for a seriously bad day to have it
>> running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship.  Since I
>> don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type
>> dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthew Williams
>> Geodesic Gr
> 
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden

>From what I see, the SVN client version in DW is 1.6.9. Not sure what
that means for your SVN servers. To be honest, I ind SVN buddy in
Eclipse as well so this wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Raymond Camden  wrote:
> Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only
> an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams
>  wrote:
>>
>> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier
>> in my head.  At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just
>> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items.  I've not dived into
>> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive).
>>
>> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?  95%
>> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to
>> the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE.
>



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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden

Last I heard - and this was a while ago - DW supported SVN, but only
an older version of SVN. Let me check real quick.


On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Matthew Williams
 wrote:
>
> To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier
> in my head.  At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just
> table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items.  I've not dived into
> jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive).
>
> Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?  95%
> of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to
> the team I work with to have it all combined into the I

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Matthew Williams

To clarify, Ray's clarify, my clarify... uh, right, it sounded funnier 
in my head.  At any rate, for me UI dev at this point is just 
table/div/paragraph stuff, so strictly HTML items.  I've not dived into 
jQuery development as I've just not had the time (or financial incentive).

Out of curiosity, can DW be tied into SVN the same way Eclipse can?  95% 
of my projects sit in SVN at this point, and it's a big selling point to 
the team I work with to have it all combined into the IDE.

As an aside, CS4 corrected my AMD issues, but now I have an i5 CPU to 
play on so it's an issue left long in the dust.  It was my incentive to 
switch my IDE, nothing more.  I have DW CS4 installed, but since I 
offload all HTML look and feel to others in my group (I turn their work 
into templates for our CMS), it's a very rare day that I open it.

Matthew Williams
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Russ Michaels

I thinks perhaps people have bad memories of DW or think of it as a web
designers tool

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Raymond Camden  wrote:

>
> Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
> development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
> as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
> are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
> is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
> since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.
>
> Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
> DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams
>  wrote:
> >
> > That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the
> > time was I got a new laptop.  The version of DW I was using at the time
> > didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at
> > 100% every time you used it.  It made for a seriously bad day to have it
> > running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship.  Since I
> > don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type
> > dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it.
> >
> >
> > Matthew Williams
> > Geodesic Gr
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Raymond Camden

Just to be clear, when folks say "UI development", also think jQuery
development. I know there are quite a few CF folks doing jQuery work
as well. Until you try writing jQuery with DW you don't know what you
are missing. Seriously. Or to be clear - JavaScript editing in general
is -far- superior in DW compared to CFB. Shoot - it's been a while
since I tried Aptana 3, but I think DW trumps it as well.

Sorry to keep bringing this up, but I really do wish folks would give
DW CS 5.5 a quick try. I think you will be surprised.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Matthew Williams
 wrote:
>
> That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the
> time was I got a new laptop.  The version of DW I was using at the time
> didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at
> 100% every time you used it.  It made for a seriously bad day to have it
> running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship.  Since I
> don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type
> dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it.
>
>
> Matthew Williams
> Geodesic Gr

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-12 Thread Matthew Williams

That reminds me... the only reason I switched off DW to CFEclipse at the 
time was I got a new laptop.  The version of DW I was using at the time 
didn't play nice with AMD dual core chips, and would have one core at 
100% every time you used it.  It made for a seriously bad day to have it 
running all the time, so I bit the bullet and jumped ship.  Since I 
don't do much UI development anymore (yay for having a graphics type 
dedicated to that crap), I don't really miss it.


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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Sean Corfield

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear
 wrote:
> I probably need to look at Eclipse again, but on my last look at it, I would
> seriously miss all of the UI advantages of Dreamweaver.

If you do UI work, Dreamweaver is kickass and that's what you should use.

If you do server-side work, CFBuilder is kickass and that's what you should use.

I have CS4 and use DW and FW for UI stuff (for the HTML sites I
maintain and the only bit of PHP). They're great tools for what they
do. If I didn't already have CS4, I'd spend the $700 to buy DW/FW for
the amount I use them.

I bought CFB1 the moment it came out and I upgraded to CFB2 a few days
after that came out. Definitely worth the $300 (or $410 that I've paid
for both versions).

As for Adobe supporting two CFML IDEs, that's not the case. The DW
team is completely separate and doesn't really have to do anything to
"support CFML" these days. They get an updated dictionary for each new
CF release and that's about it. The CF team support CFB so it's
tightly coupled to the CF server - which is how it should be. Adobe
has one CFML IDE and it's extremely good. Adobe also has an extremely
good HTML/CSS/JS editor - that just happens to have some CFML support.
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Maureen

Ditto.  Did my senior thesis in college, a trigometric theorem prover,
using 9000+ key punch cards.

IDE of choice now is still Dreamweaver, although I use Eclipse and
Visual Studio for Java and .NET projects.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Jenny Gavin-Wear
 wrote:
>
> Sadly, I'm so old I've actually done that, lol
>
>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
>>>
>>>wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ?
>>>I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device
>>>that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole
>>>positions.

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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Or make Eclipse a Dreamweaver plugin?

I probably need to look at Eclipse again, but on my last look at it, I would
seriously miss all of the UI advantages of Dreamweaver.


>>-Original Message-
>>From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au]
>>Sent: 12 June 2011 01:11
>>To: cf-talk
>>Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5
>>
>>
>>
>>I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an
>>Eclipse plugin!!



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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Justin Scott

> As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors

I would argue that is not exactly the case.  ColdFusion Builder is a
pure CFML IDE, plain and simple.  Dreamweaver, on the other hand, is
capable of editing CF code, but that is just one of the many things
that it does.  It's hardly a "waste of money" for them to maintain
both products as they have vastly different capabilities, purposes,
and target audiences.  It's like saying maintaining basketball and
baseball at the same time is a waste (well, I suppose for some people
that argument could go either way).  They both involve players and a
ball, but are vastly different games.  Builder and Dreamweaver each
have their strong points depending on the type of work you're doing.
I'd argue that Dreamweaver is made more for front-end developers who
happen to need to edit CF code from time to time (or PHP, or ASP, or
whatever), while Builder is meant for those of us almost exclusively
in the trenches with CF.  Personally, I'm glad there are different
products which each solve specific needs.


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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Russ Michaels

The only real issue I have with DW is that it can't handle big files well
and it is a serious system resource hog. It actually uses more CPU when it
is minimised and not in use. You do need a pretty decent system to use it
comfortably.
Other than that it is a perfectly competent CFML editor with insight, auto
complete, cfc generation, synchronization with remote servers, svn, and many
other features that HS or CFE doesn't have.

Russ

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:

>
> I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an
> actual CFML editor.  More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML
> kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:11 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5
>
>
> I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an
> Eclipse plugin!!
>
> As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both
> have
> complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up
> to
> this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an
> Eclipse
> plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds.
>
> Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this!
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5
> >
> >
> > Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I
> > forced
> myself
> > to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up.
> >
> > That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to
> move to
> > something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm
> > really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it
> supports
> > JavaScript.
> >
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Andrew Scott

I don't think you understand the bigger picture I put forward there.


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> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 6:32 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5
> 
> 
> I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an
> actual CFML editor.  More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML
> kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse.
> 
> Eric
> 


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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Eric Roberts

I would say the code editor is a second thought rather than DW being an
actual CFML editor.  More like they added the ability to DW to handle CFML
kind of like you would add a plugin to eclipse.

Eric

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:andr...@andyscott.id.au] 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Homesite 5.5


I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an
Eclipse plugin!!

As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both have
complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up to
this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an Eclipse
plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds.

Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this!


Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/




> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5
> 
> 
> Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I 
> forced
myself
> to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up.
> 
> That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to
move to
> something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm 
> really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it
supports
> JavaScript.
> 




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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Andrew Scott

Oh the days of making expensive mistakes.


Regards,
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> -Original Message-
> From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
> Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 3:46 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5
> 
> 
> wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ?
> I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device
that
> reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions.
> 


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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Andrew Scott

I would be wondering how long it would be before Dreamweaver becomes an
Eclipse plugin!!

As it stands now, Adobe is now maintaining 2 CFML Editors although both have
complete different objectives. Begs the question, when will adobe wake up to
this waste of money and decide to take the core of Dreamweaver as an Eclipse
plugin where you could just install CFB and get the best of both worlds.

Or is Adobe already secretly working towards this!


Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/




> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:rcam...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:08 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5
> 
> 
> Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I forced
myself
> to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I would have given up.
> 
> That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to
move to
> something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS 5.5. I'm
> really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how well it
supports
> JavaScript.
> 


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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Nathan Strutz

I love how this thread is comparing HomeSite to punch cards and other old
fashioned computing technologies.

In one sense, it's amazing that HomeSite had the staying power that it did.
Kudos to the original Delphi developers for creating such a great platform.
The only problem is that they did it in the 1990's. 15 years in computing,
15 years on the internet, we're talking about ancient history.

I switched to Eclipse early on. I found myself at a company that had
questionable licensing ethics, so when I started to hear about Eclipse, I
made the switch as soon as I could and haven't missed the annoyances of HS+
one bit. It turned out great for me, I could tell there was a lot of promise
in the platform, so now (7 years later?) it seems like I picked a winner.
These days I use a combination of CFEclipse and Notepad++, both FOSS.
Notepad++ is a great pick-up-and-edit tool.

At home I have been using CF Builder 2, it's good. It's really good. I also
have IntelliJ IDEA, which is surprisingly advanced for CFML development.

In summary, and bringing it back to the thread, try new tools, they are
better. They do more things. Force yourself to try it for a couple weeks and
see if you can be as efficient at it.

nathan strutz
[www.dopefly.com] [hi.im/nathanstrutz] [about.me/nathanstrutz]


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Wil Genovese  wrote:

>
> "Sticks" of RAM? Wow that's new tech! My RAM come on individual IC Chips.
>  I need 8 to get to 64K.
>
>
>
> Wil Genovese
> Sr. Web Application Developer/
> Systems Administrator
> CF Webtools
> www.cfwebtools.com
>
> wilg...@trunkful.com
> www.trunkful.com
>
> On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
>
> >
> >>> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive
> >
> > I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram
> > together.
> >
> > G!
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive,
> >> moving
> >> the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is
> actually
> >> a cassette tape.
> >>
> >> My code is VERY precise. Just saying.
> >>
> >> Mark Drew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> "Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff
> :)"
> >>>>
> >>>> I use it everyday.
> >>>>
> >>>> I try other applications, but I always come back.
> >>>>
> >>>> J
> >>>
> >>> Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use
> >> DOS
> >>> 3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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RE: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

Sadly, I'm so old I've actually done that, lol 


>>-Original Message-
>>From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk]
>>Sent: 11 June 2011 18:46
>>To: cf-talk
>>Subject: Re: Homesite 5.5
>>
>>
>>
>>wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ?
>>I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device
>>that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole 
>>positions.



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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Wil Genovese

Anyone wanting to know more about the "Hidden Gems" in CFBuilder should watch 
this preso by Charlie Arehart.  

http://experts.adobeconnect.com/p51vmyerxvy/?launcher=false&fcsContent=true&pbMode=normal


I also miss HomeSite - I started using it back in the 1.5 days (1996) and 
purchased it from Nick himself.  Back then the easter eggs in HS were fun 
little games and even one that let us shoot Green Dog Logos.  Ah, the good o'l 
days.

 




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Systems Administrator
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On Jun 11, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Stephane Vantroyen wrote:

> 
> Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about 
> CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, 
> dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by 
> (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. 
> 
> Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment 
> changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i 
> still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For 
> my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to 
> find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, 
> and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by 
> functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well 
> worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the 
> "ides comparison posts" like already took place before on this community 
> site, just wanted to give my opinion. 
> 
> The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best 
> suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a 
> necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++)
> 
> Stéphane Vantroyen
> 
> 
>> To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it.
>> It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles
>> that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it
>> won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You
>> have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from
>> everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo
>> CDs Macromedia used to hand out.
>> 
>> -Mike Chabot
>> 
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com <
>> edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread John M Bliss

There is a lengthy thread on one of the CF LinkedIn groups polling people on
what they're using and CFB is well-represented. (I use CFB 2.)
On Jun 11, 2011 3:01 PM, "Stephane Vantroyen"  wrote:
>
> Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read
about CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about
Homesite, dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one
made by (sold by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is
about.
>
> Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a
moment changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good
product, and i still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial
decisions. For my concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to
mac) and had to find a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted
for CFBuilder, and yes the change was long and painful to be honest, but is
now rewarded by functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of
CFBuilder is well worth it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what
some could call the "ides comparison posts" like already took place before
on this community site, just wanted to give my opinion.
>
> The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best
suits you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a
necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++)
>
> Stéphane Vantroyen
>
>
>>To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize
it.
>>It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles
>>that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it
>>won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there.
You
>>have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from
>>everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo
>>CDs Macromedia used to hand out.
>>
>>-Mike Chabot
>>
>>On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com<
>>edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Stephane Vantroyen

Something weird I've noticed while reading these posts : I've not read about 
CFBuilder, did I (or maybe I'm wrong), but people are talking about Homesite, 
dreamweaver, eclipse and related free ides, but not about the one made by (sold 
by) Adobe, which is now the main contact point for what CF is about. 

Anyway, I've always worked with homesite and loved it, but there's a moment 
changes have to occur (pity because homesite was a really good product, and i 
still miss it) because of some strategic moves or commercial decisions. For my 
concern, I had to change because I changed my main os (to mac) and had to find 
a professional way to work on cf projects. I thus opted for CFBuilder, and yes 
the change was long and painful to be honest, but is now rewarded by 
functionalities that Homesite do not have (version 2 of CFBuilder is well worth 
it now). I certainly do not want to to restart what some could call the "ides 
comparison posts" like already took place before on this community site, just 
wanted to give my opinion. 

The only thing that matters according to me is : find something that best suits 
you and your needs, but do not be reluctant to changes if it becomes a 
necessary (i told it before : i still miss my homesite 5.5 ++)

Stéphane Vantroyen


>To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it.
>It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles
>that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it
>won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You
>have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from
>everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo
>CDs Macromedia used to hand out.
>
>-Mike Chabot
>
>On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com <
>edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote:
>
>>

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Gerald Guido

I have Homesite+ if that helps


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Mike Chabot  wrote:

>
> To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize
> it.
> It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles
> that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it
> won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there.
> You
> have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from
> everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo
> CDs Macromedia used to hand out.
>
> -Mike Chabot
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com<
> edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers.  Does
> > anyone one by chance have the media I could download?  Can't get it
> anymore
> > from Macromedia.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread John M Bliss

That's so cool! It's like an Easter egg! Imagine finding a copy of Civ I on
your Civ V disk. A copy of Win 3.1 on Win 7 disk. More software companies
should do this!
On Jun 11, 2011 2:45 PM, "Mike Chabot"  wrote:
>
> To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize
it.
> It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles
> that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it
> won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there.
You
> have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from
> everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo
> CDs Macromedia used to hand out.
>
> -Mike Chabot
>
> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com<
> edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers. Does
>> anyone one by chance have the media I could download? Can't get it
anymore
>> from Macromedia.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Wil Genovese

"Sticks" of RAM? Wow that's new tech! My RAM come on individual IC Chips.  I 
need 8 to get to 64K.



Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

On Jun 11, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:

> 
>>> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive
> 
> I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram
> together.
> 
> G!
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive,
>> moving
>> the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually
>> a cassette tape.
>> 
>> My code is VERY precise. Just saying.
>> 
>> Mark Drew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 "Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)"
 
 I use it everyday.
 
 I try other applications, but I always come back.
 
 J
>>> 
>>> Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use
>> DOS
>>> 3
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Matthew Williams

The only reason I bust out Dreamweaver is for making tables and UI 
stuff.  For everything else, there's CFEclipse, Subclipse, Apatana.  I 
have yet to find a plugin for Eclipse that does split dev/UI like 
Dreamweaver can.


Matthew Williams
Geodesic GraFX
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On 6/11/2011 11:08 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
> Just want to ditto Russ. Moving to Eclipse was painful at first. I
> forced myself to give it two weeks. If I had just given it a day I
> would have given up.
>
> That being said - if you don't like CFEclipse or CFBuilder and want to
> move to something more modern, _definitely_ check out Dreamweaver CS
> 5.5. I'm really, _really_ digging it lately especially in terms of how
> well it supports JavaScript.
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Mike Chabot

To answer the original question, you might have HomeSite and not realize it.
It was bundled with Dreamweaver, as well as the various software bundles
that contain Dreamweaver. HomeSite is somewhat hidden on these CDs and it
won't appear in the list of software that is on the CD, but it is there. You
have to find the HomeSite folder on the CD and install it separately from
everything else. HomeSite might also be found on the various trial or demo
CDs Macromedia used to hand out.

-Mike Chabot

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20 AM, edmo...@sitecon.com edmo...@sitecon.com <
edmo...@sitecon.com> wrote:

>
> Hello All,
>
> I have lost my media for Homesite 5.5. I still have serial numbers.  Does
> anyone one by chance have the media I could download?  Can't get it anymore
> from Macromedia.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Russ Michaels

wow this is all very technical, what is a hard drive ?
I code by punching holes into a piece of card which is fed into a device
that reads the holes and performs functions according to the hole positions.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mark Drew  wrote:

>
> Dammit, I hate you retro guys... I know your code is faster but the
> "writing
> code via static electricity" design pattern always trumps mine. Dammit!
>
>
> Mark Drew
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Gerald Guido  >wrote:
>
> >
> > >>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive
> >
> > I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram
> > together.
> >
> > G!
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive,
> > > moving
> > > the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is
> > actually
> > > a cassette tape.
> > >
> > > My code is VERY precise. Just saying.
> > >
> > > Mark Drew
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff
> > :)"
> > > > >
> > > > >I use it everyday.
> > > > >
> > > > >I try other applications, but I always come back.
> > > > >
> > > > >J
> > > >
> > > > Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and
> use
> > > DOS
> > > > 3
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Mark Drew

Dammit, I hate you retro guys... I know your code is faster but the "writing
code via static electricity" design pattern always trumps mine. Dammit!


Mark Drew




On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:

>
> >>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive
>
> I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram
> together.
>
> G!
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew  wrote:
>
> >
> > I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive,
> > moving
> > the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is
> actually
> > a cassette tape.
> >
> > My code is VERY precise. Just saying.
> >
> > Mark Drew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff
> :)"
> > > >
> > > >I use it everyday.
> > > >
> > > >I try other applications, but I always come back.
> > > >
> > > >J
> > >
> > > Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use
> > DOS
> > > 3
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Homesite 5.5

2011-06-11 Thread Gerald Guido

>>I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive

I will see your tiny magnets and raise you rubbing two sticks of ram
together.

G!

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Mark Drew  wrote:

>
> I am personally coding by rubbing a tiny magnet across my hard-drive,
> moving
> the bits. I should state that this is TRS 80, and my hard-drive is actually
> a cassette tape.
>
> My code is VERY precise. Just saying.
>
> Mark Drew
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Larry Lyons 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > >"Glad I'm not the only one who still prefers it over the newer stuff :)"
> > >
> > >I use it everyday.
> > >
> > >I try other applications, but I always come back.
> > >
> > >J
> >
> > Let me guess, you also use flint knives and wear fur underwear, and use
> DOS
> > 3
> >
> >
>
> 

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