RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Well, I don't think anyone said anything about knowing more about NDAs than anyone else... -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. The problem was solved...the thread is deador please start a "I'm not a lawyer but I still know better than everybody else regarding NDAs" thread. This is not directed at any one person Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196950 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
The problem was solved...the thread is deador please start a "I'm not a lawyer but I still know better than everybody else regarding NDAs" thread. This is not directed at any one person Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196940 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
It's the fight club scenario. You've pretty much said you were under NDA for something related to CFMX 7, that you entered a request that wasn't addressed and that there are other unresolved bugs that you know of, apparently because of whatever scenario that had you agree to an NDA. It's not your opinion I'm referring to in my admittedly ambiguous response, but the possibility that your content based on what you call privileged information might be NDA covered. I have no idea if it is NDA or not, since I have no idea of the content of the NDA that you mentioned agreeing to, but was hoping to helpfully remind you if indeed the above referenced information might be covered under the NDA that you agreed to. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Calvin, A persons view on why software is rushed to market is not NDA, and is a view of mine and others who have worked in the industry long enough to know how the publisher works. Just so happens this time the publisher is MM. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 10:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Andrew, Isn't this also a violation of the NDA? - Calvin -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Greg, Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view. This product was rushed to be released there are some very serious bugs in this product, and due to being reminded of my NDA on another list I'll say this: I have been in software development and games development for nearly 26 years, and in that time I have always seen products released before they should have been released it has never changed. But the powers to be wanted this out quickly to generate some cash flow into the company and that's what it is all about. At the end of the day that decision to release a product before its dually ready starts to piss a lot of people off big time, and that also makes those people be more sceptical to that product in the future. But because a company can't take the extra time to make sure that a product is really ready makes service packs for know bugs a major problem, I can understand service packs for bugs found later down the track or security, but for known bugs what does this say, this says that the product was seriously rushed for release to inject cash into the company and keep the shareholders happy etc. At the end of the day, I am with mike on this, because of a know issue in the product that impedes the reports side of things I'll not use it in production for at least 12 months or until I am 100% sure that the issues I know are there are fixed. I also put in a request for a change in the installation, but this was never considered and the one thing that really pisses me of the most is that if I have to ever do a repair to coldfusion I have to fully uninstall the product and reinstall the product and in a production environment that means resetting datasources, and other settings why in earth was this never considered. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike, not a one.. And they are all 3 multiserver installs. Call Macromedia and get some expert help and please quit the whining! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196913 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.c
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 11:21:45 +1100, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A persons view on why software is rushed to market is not NDA, and is a view > of mine However, you prefixed your view with this comment "Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view." - implying that because of your NDA privilege, you are somehow better informed and that is either (a) a violation of the NDA or (b) a very pompous statement to make... Given your posts on cfaussie and the reaction of the other list members there, I'm inclined to believe that it isn't a violation of the NDA... ;) -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 49, yes 49, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196898 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Calvin, A persons view on why software is rushed to market is not NDA, and is a view of mine and others who have worked in the industry long enough to know how the publisher works. Just so happens this time the publisher is MM. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 10:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Andrew, Isn't this also a violation of the NDA? - Calvin -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Greg, Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view. This product was rushed to be released there are some very serious bugs in this product, and due to being reminded of my NDA on another list I'll say this: I have been in software development and games development for nearly 26 years, and in that time I have always seen products released before they should have been released it has never changed. But the powers to be wanted this out quickly to generate some cash flow into the company and that's what it is all about. At the end of the day that decision to release a product before its dually ready starts to piss a lot of people off big time, and that also makes those people be more sceptical to that product in the future. But because a company can't take the extra time to make sure that a product is really ready makes service packs for know bugs a major problem, I can understand service packs for bugs found later down the track or security, but for known bugs what does this say, this says that the product was seriously rushed for release to inject cash into the company and keep the shareholders happy etc. At the end of the day, I am with mike on this, because of a know issue in the product that impedes the reports side of things I'll not use it in production for at least 12 months or until I am 100% sure that the issues I know are there are fixed. I also put in a request for a change in the installation, but this was never considered and the one thing that really pisses me of the most is that if I have to ever do a repair to coldfusion I have to fully uninstall the product and reinstall the product and in a production environment that means resetting datasources, and other settings why in earth was this never considered. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike, not a one.. And they are all 3 multiserver installs. Call Macromedia and get some expert help and please quit the whining! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196895 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
While it hasn't been yet in the top banner area of the MM site that I've noticed... What's up with that? -Original Message- From: Matt Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. >Until Macromedia pro-actively starts marketing on ColdFusion in other >countries and put some of their Flash/Contribute resources to the dark >side these issues continue and resources stay limited. That starts with >a larger announcement on the MM landing page, not some itsy bitsy tiny >CF box ;) CFMX 7 was in (may still be in) that top banner area on many of the non-US Macromedia sites. Matt ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196752 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Thanks Steven, I was unsure how to do that. I thought about adding the resolution to the bottom of this one, but I figured lots of people will be totally annoyed with this one and not read it, but a new thread meant this one didnt have the resolution to it. Good idea. Thanks. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 13:56:33 -0400, Steven Erat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Updating this thread with a link to the new thread having the resolution. > (Watch the wrap!) > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/threadid:38658/forumid:4 > > I always hate it when I google a result on a mailing list to find that the > thread terminated and was picked up elsewhere. > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196704 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Updating this thread with a link to the new thread having the resolution. (Watch the wrap!) http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/threadid:38658/forumid:4 I always hate it when I google a result on a mailing list to find that the thread terminated and was picked up elsewhere. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196682 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Bryan Who are you talking to at MM and getting no support? Watching this thread is sounds a bit like a case of to many people between you and macromedia. It could simply be a case of this consultant you worked with asking the wrong people. Ping me off-list with the details, Company, Contact person (you?), location, etc. I'll forward it along to the right folks. I can't believe we've turned down an offer to talk to you or this company. I'll bet it's a simple matter of not talking to the right person. ---nimer -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 2:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. > I'm sure that if resources were unlimited, they'd personally take care > of every company possible, but they probably have to prioritize by > some criteria. Yep...totally agree...but when a personal invite for a technology presentation is given and they turn it down...well then perhaps the criteria need a little revising ;-) Oh well...keeps us busy being the main local CF shop ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com/tiny.cfm/54 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196611 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> I'm sure that if resources were unlimited, they'd personally take care > of every company possible, but they probably have to prioritize by > some criteria. Yep...totally agree...but when a personal invite for a technology presentation is given and they turn it down...well then perhaps the criteria need a little revising ;-) Oh well...keeps us busy being the main local CF shop ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com/tiny.cfm/54 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196608 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> Joe...dollar values aside...the point is they don't even try...and that is > truly sad :-( > > but that's OK...I don't mind taking the business ;-) Hey, if it makes you money :). I'm sure that if resources were unlimited, they'd personally take care of every company possible, but they probably have to prioritize by some criteria. -Joe -- For Tabs, Trees, and more, use the jComponents: http://clearsoftware.net/client/jComponents.cfm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196606 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Joe...dollar values aside...the point is they don't even try...and that is truly sad :-( but that's OK...I don't mind taking the business ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com/54 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196601 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Jeah, but outta that 35mil, how much will MM ever see? -Adam On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:50:48 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt, > > Either I misunderstood what was said or you've misunderstood what I > meant...a company the size of mine or Macromedia should definitely > jump through some hoops for a customer that's worth $35 million per > year in revenue. However, a consulting firm that _brings in_ $35 > million a year isn't a terribly large firm, and your company's cut of > that revenue spent on your services is likely to be fairly small. > Sure, it's a lot of money to you (I assume) or me, but compared to a > large consulting firm, it's not that much. > > -Joe > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:56:08 -0500, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > " MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't > > really all that large." > > > > I'd think that when you consider your business is too good to jump for a $35 > > million/year customer, you'd better start looking for another job. That's > > just a bad outlook on business. > > > > - Matt Small > > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196600 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Matt, Either I misunderstood what was said or you've misunderstood what I meant...a company the size of mine or Macromedia should definitely jump through some hoops for a customer that's worth $35 million per year in revenue. However, a consulting firm that _brings in_ $35 million a year isn't a terribly large firm, and your company's cut of that revenue spent on your services is likely to be fairly small. Sure, it's a lot of money to you (I assume) or me, but compared to a large consulting firm, it's not that much. -Joe On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:56:08 -0500, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > " MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't > really all that large." > > I'd think that when you consider your business is too good to jump for a $35 > million/year customer, you'd better start looking for another job. That's > just a bad outlook on business. > > - Matt Small > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196599 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Hrmmm... I just assumed you meant the US govt. My Bad. I work out of Washington, DC. -Adam On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:16:49 -0800, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps in your experience Adambut the fed govt. department I just > mentioned uses CF for most of it's apps...and we are there to do the high > end and overflow work their own developers can't handle ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > phone: 250.480.0642 > fax: 250.480.1264 > cell: 250.920.8830 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: www.electricedgesystems.com > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196597 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Perhaps in your experience Adambut the fed govt. department I just mentioned uses CF for most of it's apps...and we are there to do the high end and overflow work their own developers can't handle ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196594 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
what country you in Adam...and on what coast? I get zero support from MMbut yes there are some federal govt (not provinicial as I mentioned) departmnets that use CF (one is our client). Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196592 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
One, if the govt is outsourcing projects, it doesnt matter what language or technology they are written in. An outsourced CF project is outsourced because it is most likely a stovepipe app meant for use by a single bureau. Being that it is a stovepipe app, the technology used will do little to change the agency as a whole. -Adam On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:46:20 -0800, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't > > really all that large. > > Yep...I stand corrected (although it is an excuse that MM has used with me > before). > > The point is that they ignore a $35 million/year company that mainly works > for the government. If you can switch the company...you can start to switch > the governmentand that leads to the government asking other large > companies to use CF. > > Java is king heredo you think the Java based CF that can run on J2EE > servers and can be coded far faster than Java might find a nice comfy home > hereh ;-) > > Cheers > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > phone: 250.480.0642 > fax: 250.480.1264 > cell: 250.920.8830 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: www.electricedgesystems.com > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196589 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I work for the govt and I get tremendous support from MM. -Adam On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:46:20 -0800, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't > > really all that large. > > Yep...I stand corrected (although it is an excuse that MM has used with me > before). > > The point is that they ignore a $35 million/year company that mainly works > for the government. If you can switch the company...you can start to switch > the governmentand that leads to the government asking other large > companies to use CF. > > Java is king heredo you think the Java based CF that can run on J2EE > servers and can be coded far faster than Java might find a nice comfy home > hereh ;-) > > Cheers > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > phone: 250.480.0642 > fax: 250.480.1264 > cell: 250.920.8830 > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: www.electricedgesystems.com > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196588 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
" MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't really all that large." I'd think that when you consider your business is too good to jump for a $35 million/year customer, you'd better start looking for another job. That's just a bad outlook on business. - Matt Small ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196585 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Ahhh...thanks Dave...I was pretty dang sure I wasn't losing it ;-) The consultant I mentioned was part of a local company that had a division sold to Allaire (and moved to Boston) just before MM took over (and he stayed in Boston working on Flash Remoting for MM). Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196579 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> Well that sure is odd Sean...as MM always said (when I've > asked for presentors and why the conferences are always east > coast)that it was becuase they were based on the east coast?? > > Did HQ change recentlyor am I confused with good old Allaire? While Macromedia's central offices are in San Francisco, the CF server development team is still located in Newton, MA, in the former Allaire office I think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196577 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't > really all that large. Yep...I stand corrected (although it is an excuse that MM has used with me before). The point is that they ignore a $35 million/year company that mainly works for the government. If you can switch the company...you can start to switch the governmentand that leads to the government asking other large companies to use CF. Java is king heredo you think the Java based CF that can run on J2EE servers and can be coded far faster than Java might find a nice comfy home hereh ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196571 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> Now I know MM is east coast...and I know resources are tight...but when a > $35 million a year company says jumpyou bloody well jump. MM is west coast, and a $35 million (in revenue) / year company isn't really all that large. -Joe -- For Tabs, Trees, and more, use the jComponents: http://clearsoftware.net/client/jComponents.cfm ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196568 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Well that sure is odd Sean...as MM always said (when I've asked for presentors and why the conferences are always east coast)that it was becuase they were based on the east coast?? Did HQ change recentlyor am I confused with good old Allaire? Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196566 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 08:16:07 -0800, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now I know MM is east coast... We're headquartered in San Francisco and that's where most of our staff are. I am presenting to the Seattle CFUG on March 10th (and will be in Surrey, BC for a cat show immediately afterward). I'll be speaking about application frameworks, comparing Fusebox and Mach II. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 48, yes 48, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196560 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> CFMX 7 was in (may still be in) that top banner area on many of the non-US > Macromedia sites. Ahh...but Matt...people need to know Macromedia sites exist before they can see the banners ;-) OK...here's a stellar example locally (I'm in Victoria ,BCwest coast of Canadaor near Seattle for those down south). I just talked with a person that worked on the original Flash Remoting for MM. He is know an consultant for one of the largest local provincial government IT contractors (ballpark of $35 million/year in contracts). Now you'd think he would be able to get MM to come up here and give a preso on CF/Flash working with Java. Not on your lifethey say NO NO NO. I had the same responses when running the local CFUG. Now I know MM is east coast...and I know resources are tight...but when a $35 million a year company says jumpyou bloody well jump. Oh well...now I get to present CF/Flash w/Java to them in a month and my company will probably get some decent work out of it. Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196553 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> CFMX just needs more exposure. You got that right Micha...but I stopped barking up that tree a few years ago...my throat was getting sore ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196544 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I haven't seen it once ?! I only see the Breeze, Web Publishing System, and Volvo ads. I suppose MM would make no difference in promoting different regions. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Matt Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 25 februari 2005 14:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. >Until Macromedia pro-actively starts marketing on ColdFusion in other >countries and put some of their Flash/Contribute resources to the dark >side these issues continue and resources stay limited. That starts with >a larger announcement on the MM landing page, not some itsy bitsy tiny >CF box ;) CFMX 7 was in (may still be in) that top banner area on many of the non-US Macromedia sites. Matt ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196515 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
>Until Macromedia pro-actively starts marketing on ColdFusion in other >countries and put some of their Flash/Contribute resources to the dark >side these issues continue and resources stay limited. That starts with >a larger announcement on the MM landing page, not some itsy bitsy tiny >CF box ;) CFMX 7 was in (may still be in) that top banner area on many of the non-US Macromedia sites. Matt ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196510 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Yes, just saying that you are under the NDA is probably a violation of it, since it implies you are/were in the beta. First rule of Beta Club - you don't talk about Beta Club. -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 7:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Andrew, Isn't this also a violation of the NDA? - Calvin -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Greg, Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view. This product was rushed to be released there are some very serious bugs in this product, and due to being reminded of my NDA on another list I'll say this: I have been in software development and games development for nearly 26 years, and in that time I have always seen products released before they should have been released it has never changed. But the powers to be wanted this out quickly to generate some cash flow into the company and that's what it is all about. At the end of the day that decision to release a product before its dually ready starts to piss a lot of people off big time, and that also makes those people be more sceptical to that product in the future. But because a company can't take the extra time to make sure that a product is really ready makes service packs for know bugs a major problem, I can understand service packs for bugs found later down the track or security, but for known bugs what does this say, this says that the product was seriously rushed for release to inject cash into the company and keep the shareholders happy etc. At the end of the day, I am with mike on this, because of a know issue in the product that impedes the reports side of things I'll not use it in production for at least 12 months or until I am 100% sure that the issues I know are there are fixed. I also put in a request for a change in the installation, but this was never considered and the one thing that really pisses me of the most is that if I have to ever do a repair to coldfusion I have to fully uninstall the product and reinstall the product and in a production environment that means resetting datasources, and other settings why in earth was this never considered. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike, not a one.. And they are all 3 multiserver installs. Call Macromedia and get some expert help and please quit the whining! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196496 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Andrew, Isn't this also a violation of the NDA? - Calvin -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Greg, Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view. This product was rushed to be released there are some very serious bugs in this product, and due to being reminded of my NDA on another list I'll say this: I have been in software development and games development for nearly 26 years, and in that time I have always seen products released before they should have been released it has never changed. But the powers to be wanted this out quickly to generate some cash flow into the company and that's what it is all about. At the end of the day that decision to release a product before its dually ready starts to piss a lot of people off big time, and that also makes those people be more sceptical to that product in the future. But because a company can't take the extra time to make sure that a product is really ready makes service packs for know bugs a major problem, I can understand service packs for bugs found later down the track or security, but for known bugs what does this say, this says that the product was seriously rushed for release to inject cash into the company and keep the shareholders happy etc. At the end of the day, I am with mike on this, because of a know issue in the product that impedes the reports side of things I'll not use it in production for at least 12 months or until I am 100% sure that the issues I know are there are fixed. I also put in a request for a change in the installation, but this was never considered and the one thing that really pisses me of the most is that if I have to ever do a repair to coldfusion I have to fully uninstall the product and reinstall the product and in a production environment that means resetting datasources, and other settings why in earth was this never considered. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike, not a one.. And they are all 3 multiserver installs. Call Macromedia and get some expert help and please quit the whining! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196494 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
When I have an issue with getting CFMX up and running, first I go with the shutting down all other options, and then I go for the built in web server option in the install. If that does the trick, then I know it's an IIS,Apache, etc issue. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Peter Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. No, I doubt the it was because of other programs. I always shut down just about everything - habit from the good old DOS days (except we didn't have services_. I would have even done it in Safe Mode if I could have. Actually, one of the problems was when CFMX7 installed itself - on restart - some of the critical services wouldn't even start (like RPC). I barely had anything running when I installed. It tried anything to get CFMX7 running - the only thing I could get running without crashes was putting CFMX7 on stand-alone with the built-in server. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196493 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Try VMWare, they have a free beta you can get into pretty easily for the next version, for a test platform, you can't beat it. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. Thanks Doug. Actually I didnt say whether it was the multiserver version or not. I installed the single server IIS version. As for whether it works on XP or not, I'm not about to rebuild my entire dev enviironment, JUST to try out a new program. That's an awful lot of work and expense. I run a one person business, I have two PCs and that's all (unless you count the 4 386s and 2x486s gathering dust in the cupboard).And the system requirements on Macromedia's site say it works on WinXPPRo with 512MB of RAM (I have 1GB) so I'm taking them at their word. I'm sure they didn't just make that up, and I'm sure they tested it. And besides, as so many people keep saying, thousands of people have it working under WInXPPro, and all I want is to have it work on mine, just like them. I have run a dev environment for years with CF running on a PC under WindowsXP (CF5 was under WIn98) and there's no MM documentation that I've seen that suggests that's no longer possible. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:48:11 -0500, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at > > all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll > IIRC, you stated you were installing the multiserver version. The > above does not indicate that. > > Now, I understand ur frustration and all, but your servers do NOT run > win XP, so getting it installed on ur XP system is no real indicative > test basis for deciding on installing it on ur server. Maybe try > installing it on a win2k pro or server, eh? > > Doug > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196492 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Not to mention, most people still think Macromedia is a huge club with large numbers of employees. You see the same issues with Breeze, where it has been priced higher (towards Enterprise) on purpose because of insufficient service resources :) Questions on the Breeze forums stay unanswered. Regarding bugs, they will always be there and yes they can be annoying, but don't forget the resources are limited. Until Macromedia pro-actively starts marketing on ColdFusion in other countries and put some of their Flash/Contribute resources to the dark side these issues continue and resources stay limited. That starts with a larger announcement on the MM landing page, not some itsy bitsy tiny CF box ;) There is enough content for a commercial like reporting, charting, speed, etc. Btw, I like CFMX blue more than the Breeze green/brown/gray. CFMX just needs more exposure. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196486 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:03:11 +1100, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view. > > This product was rushed to be released there are some very serious bugs in > this product, and due to being reminded of my NDA on another list I'll say > this: Since CFMX 7 had the longest beta test of any version of ColdFusion ever, I don't think it is fair or accurate to claim it was "rushed to be released" especially since you are trying to justify this claim with reference to "NDA information". My experience is that CFMX 7 is rock solid. Our order management systems have been running on it in production since early December with not a single outage. The whole macromedia.com website is running on it and during the upgrade we found only three problems - two of which were due to our code relying on bugs in 6.1 that got fixed in 7. > At the end of the day, I am with mike on this, because of a know issue in > the product that impedes the reports side of things I'll not use it in > production for at least 12 months or until I am 100% sure that the issues I > know are there are fixed. What is this "know issue"? > I also put in a request for a change in the installation, but this was never > considered Er, that isn't true. Your suggestion was discussed and reasons were given for why it wasn't feasible for this release, as I recall. But of course, that's "NDA information" and so no one can legally challenge your assertion, eh? -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 48, yes 48, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196484 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> I have been in software development and games development for > nearly 26 years, and in that time I have always seen products > released before they should have been released it has never > changed. But the powers to be wanted this out quickly to > generate some cash flow into the company and that's what it > is all about. Well, of course products are released before all the bugs are fixed. In some cases, before some known major bugs are fixed. But how do you think programmers' salaries are paid? Most software companies don't have a bottomless well of money that they can draw from. A company like iD Software can say "we'll release it when it's ready" because they can just stop buying new Ferraris for a while, but most companies don't have that luxury. Even if they do, most public companies' shareholders wouldn't tolerate that anyway. You're absolutely right - money is exactly what it's all about. Unfortunately, I can't see it being any other way. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196435 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
It's not that I couldn't get it to play with Apache. I did get CF parse cfm files and apache to serve them. That wasn't the problem. It was the java.lang.OutOfMemory errors that were the problem. JRUN would eat up it's entire memory allocation (512MB) within 5 minutes and this is on a dev machine. This was happening with only one or two requests and with code known to work from a production server (6.1). As I said before, I played with the jvm arguments (blog posting from sargeway.com). After one request, you could like in the task manager and just the MB's being eaten up. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196342 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
No, I doubt the it was because of other programs. I always shut down just about everything - habit from the good old DOS days (except we didn't have services_. I would have even done it in Safe Mode if I could have. Actually, one of the problems was when CFMX7 installed itself - on restart - some of the critical services wouldn't even start (like RPC). I barely had anything running when I installed. It tried anything to get CFMX7 running - the only thing I could get running without crashes was putting CFMX7 on stand-alone with the built-in server. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196319 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> From: Peter Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mike, I had problems with getting CFMX7 installed on WinXPPro > with Apache 2.0. I downloaded the installer on the Monday > that it came out (like 1am). I must of had bad luck. It > rendered my computer, well - I had 10 hours of > troubleshooting to get it up again. For the life of me, > quite a few things when wrong. I have installed CFMX 7 on a variety of mahcines now under a variety of configurations and have only had one problem. Perhaps this is your issue. Our local dev boxes (desktop machines) are loaded with all kinds of software. There are processes running in the background that we don't even know about. The average XP user has ALL the default services running, etc. The key to getting around one XP install for me was to shut down all programs, all unnecessary services, clear the event logs, etc. Reboot. Reinstall. Check the error logs and event logs. All was good. Perhaps the people having so many problems have not shut down all the things running which are not necessary to get CFMX 7 installed! Close down IM, Email, Homesite, etc.. Usually I ignore the "Please close down all running programs.. blah blah blah" when installing new stuff, but when I do ignore it and the installation goes awry I always start there. Anyway, just something to think about. Good luck. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196286 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Hey Peter, If you need help on getting MX up and running with Apache let me know...jeez I have done it enough times! N -Original Message- From: Peter Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 February 2005 13:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. I feel bad that I'm entering this thread so late - but I usually do. My apologies. First off, I'm not MM blashing here - I've always found their products to be quite good. However, since they deal with software - they can suffer the bugs, etc. Since I'm a one person consultant like you, I didn't get to participate with the beta testing of Blackstone. That was pretty disappointing to me that I had to wait so long. Mike, I had problems with getting CFMX7 installed on WinXPPro with Apache 2.0. I downloaded the installer on the Monday that it came out (like 1am). I must of had bad luck. It rendered my computer, well - I had 10 hours of troubleshooting to get it up again. For the life of me, quite a few things when wrong. 1. Windows Restore Points No matter how many I tried, none of them helped or worked 2. Antivirus I use Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Suite 2005 on my dev machine. This broke - I later found out it was the secondary cause of gettting my computer back. 3. JRUN Once I did get my machine back, I couldn't get JRUN to play nice with Apache. JRUN gobbled memory like crazy for about 10 minutes and then I would get java.lang.OutOfMemory errors. I played with the maxPerm size and all the posts made by Sargeway regarding JRUn going crazy with memory. I ended up getting CFMX7 running only in stand-alone with it's own builtin webserver. I wish I could I get it running with Apache...but that's another day... Best, ...peter P.s. I'll try to post more later when I have time. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196285 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I feel bad that I'm entering this thread so late - but I usually do. My apologies. First off, I'm not MM blashing here - I've always found their products to be quite good. However, since they deal with software - they can suffer the bugs, etc. Since I'm a one person consultant like you, I didn't get to participate with the beta testing of Blackstone. That was pretty disappointing to me that I had to wait so long. Mike, I had problems with getting CFMX7 installed on WinXPPro with Apache 2.0. I downloaded the installer on the Monday that it came out (like 1am). I must of had bad luck. It rendered my computer, well - I had 10 hours of troubleshooting to get it up again. For the life of me, quite a few things when wrong. 1. Windows Restore Points No matter how many I tried, none of them helped or worked 2. Antivirus I use Trend Micro PC-cillin Internet Suite 2005 on my dev machine. This broke - I later found out it was the secondary cause of gettting my computer back. 3. JRUN Once I did get my machine back, I couldn't get JRUN to play nice with Apache. JRUN gobbled memory like crazy for about 10 minutes and then I would get java.lang.OutOfMemory errors. I played with the maxPerm size and all the posts made by Sargeway regarding JRUn going crazy with memory. I ended up getting CFMX7 running only in stand-alone with it's own builtin webserver. I wish I could I get it running with Apache...but that's another day... Best, ...peter P.s. I'll try to post more later when I have time. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196284 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Thanks for this Steven, I'm glad you sorted out all these links for me. Some of them arent relevant, but some are. For example, you say that the manual configuration procedure which describes CFMX6.1 also works for CF7. How would I have known that? Remember this is the first time I've come in direct contact with the product. Anyway, I'll read through these links and see whether any of them solve the problems. I have my doubt about whether the CF7 download is the source of the problem, because I can't get the web server configuratoin tool to allow me to click the OK button. And i can't get IIS to let me add a file extension to the mappings. Sounds like a windows problem, but how I find out what the problem is, I have no idea. Windows appears to be working properly in all other respects as far as I know. Thanks for the references to Macromedia support too, but I'll reserve judgement on whether they can help. In the 9 years I've been dealing with Macromedia and Allaire before them, I've never had a support questoin answered by them. THey've always done the basic "is it turned on?" "Is it plugged into the wall?" type questoins then when I've wasted an hour on that, escalated it upwards where I've waited and waited and waited for a contact back, and eventually had the problem solved by someone on CF-Talk or CF-Aussie.I gave up even trying to use MM support. most people I know have too, except for those with enough purchasing dollars clout to have bells rining in MM when they call. Thanks for the offer of the breeze session. If it's ok with you, I'll read through the links you've given me to see if the solution is there, then take you up on your offer after that if the matter is still unresolved. Is that ok? Regardless, after the fuss I've caused, I'll be posting the outcome here on the list, so everyone else can see how it turned out. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:30:59 -0500, Steven Erat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A collage of responses follow: [snip] > I'd be willing to do a (free) Breeze Live desktop sharing session with > you. Provide a list of time windows in a private reply and I'll let you > know if any of them work for me. > > -Steven Erat > Macromedia Support > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196268 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
A collage of responses follow: > surrounding the CFMX6.0 install routines. No such luck.There is > no documentation anywhere telling us what to do if the installation > doesn't go perfectly. ColdFusion MX 7: Common installation problems (watch the wrap) http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentation&file=part_ins.htm Enable logging for CFMX installation http://www.macromedia.com/go/tn_18356 Macromedia - Installation Support by Email http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/isupport/ > And nowhere does it say that CFMX7 wont work > with IIS5.1, the currently installed IIS with WinXPPro. The System Requirements list what is supported, rather than what is not supported. Windows XP is supported. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/systemreqs/ > If I have to manually do one part of the installation (without any > documentation to tell me how by the way) ... Manually configuring the web server connector for ColdFusion MX http://www.macromedia.com/go/tn_19575 (works with CFMX7, too) > I dont know enough about what's going on under the hood to do it > manually with no documentation, no checklist and no instructions. Checklist: Gathering information necessary to install ColdFusion MX 7 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=ColdFusion_Documentation&file=part_ins.htm > Where are the Macromedia support pages to help people like me who > can't seem to muster the intelligence to install an application Docs http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/index.html FAQ http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/ Technotes http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/installation.html > see if they can shed any light on what's wrong? Or give me the > Australian number where I get support between 9pm and 2am? http://www.macromedia.com/support/programs/cf_single.html (415) 252-9080. They usually don't care if you call this from overseas, and I sometimes get calls from Europe to South Africa, and yes to Australia. This support page says, "APAC: Available US hours only. Monday through Friday, 8 am-8 pm, Eastern time zone." APAC support hours are roughly equivlant to 12a-12n for eastern Australia. Overlapping business hours are 8a-12n your time. Your 9p-2a requirement is roughly equal to 5a-10a eastern time in the US. That provides 2 hours right there, maybe less, depending. Looking at the timestamp on your email posts it appears that your are seeking support on CFTalk between 6am and 6pm US eastern time. > [C] ... MM clearly have an issue that they need to > address, even if only through help documentation, and if I just shut > up and forget it, it's not going to get fixed. See the links above > And not only am I not demanding things of Sean, I am most grateful > that he said anything. But he offered to pass it on to the > installation guys. Sean did that himself off his own bat. I didnt > even know there was a team called "the installation guys". There is no team called "the installation guys". There is, however, Macromedia ColdFusion Support, of mixed gender, too. > MM in Australia dont have help for people like me. http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/isupport/ http://www.macromedia.com/support/programs/cf_single.html > Sorry if you dont like it, but that's how it is. Now that i've made a > start on installing CF7, I am forced to continue or throw CF7 out > entirely. As so many people have pointed out to me, lots of others > have CF7 working fine on a setup like mine, so all I want to do is > figure out why mine isnt.. I'd be willing to do a (free) Breeze Live desktop sharing session with you. Provide a list of time windows in a private reply and I'll let you know if any of them work for me. -Steven Erat Macromedia Support ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196261 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Greg, Having been privileged to NDA information here is my point of view. This product was rushed to be released there are some very serious bugs in this product, and due to being reminded of my NDA on another list I'll say this: I have been in software development and games development for nearly 26 years, and in that time I have always seen products released before they should have been released it has never changed. But the powers to be wanted this out quickly to generate some cash flow into the company and that's what it is all about. At the end of the day that decision to release a product before its dually ready starts to piss a lot of people off big time, and that also makes those people be more sceptical to that product in the future. But because a company can't take the extra time to make sure that a product is really ready makes service packs for know bugs a major problem, I can understand service packs for bugs found later down the track or security, but for known bugs what does this say, this says that the product was seriously rushed for release to inject cash into the company and keep the shareholders happy etc. At the end of the day, I am with mike on this, because of a know issue in the product that impedes the reports side of things I'll not use it in production for at least 12 months or until I am 100% sure that the issues I know are there are fixed. I also put in a request for a change in the installation, but this was never considered and the one thing that really pisses me of the most is that if I have to ever do a repair to coldfusion I have to fully uninstall the product and reinstall the product and in a production environment that means resetting datasources, and other settings why in earth was this never considered. Regards Andrew Scott Technical Consultant NuSphere Pty Ltd Level 2/33 Bank Street South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205 Phone: 03 9686 0485 - Fax: 03 9699 7976 -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 February 2005 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike, not a one.. And they are all 3 multiserver installs. Call Macromedia and get some expert help and please quit the whining! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196256 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I've just sent an off-list reply to Michael, thanking him for his very kind offer but I'm not going to be at the machine in question for another 9 hours or so. I do hope i'll be able to take him up on his offer then. Even if he's not able to help me then, I'm extremely grateful for the offer. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:41:11 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Send me the remote connection request. I have about an hour before I need to > head out. I will take a look. > > Michael T. Tangorre > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196242 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Send me the remote connection request. I have about an hour before I need to head out. I will take a look. Michael T. Tangorre > -Original Message- > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:30 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business > almost shut down for 2 days now. > > I'd be delighted to. If anyone is willing to try.Dave Watts did > once, and he was extremely generous with his time in helping > me resolve a problem. > > Again it might well be that I am the problem. I've never > said otherwise. But i can't see where i went wrong and I > need some help from somewhere. That's all I'm asking for. > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:14:29 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sorry if you dont like it, but that's how it is. Now > that i've made > > > a start on installing CF7, I am forced to continue or > throw CF7 out > > > entirely. As so many people have pointed out to me, > lots of others > > > have CF7 working fine on a setup like mine, so all I want > to do is > > > figure out why mine isnt.. > > > > You are running XP you say right? Have a broadband connection? How > > about you let someone remote in via remote assistance or remote > > desktop sharing and have a look. At least that will help > determine if > > you are the problem or your actual setup is. > > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196236 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I'd be delighted to. If anyone is willing to try.Dave Watts did once, and he was extremely generous with his time in helping me resolve a problem. Again it might well be that I am the problem. I've never said otherwise. But i can't see where i went wrong and I need some help from somewhere. That's all I'm asking for. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:14:29 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sorry if you dont like it, but that's how it is. Now that > > i've made a start on installing CF7, I am forced to continue > > or throw CF7 out > > entirely. As so many people have pointed out to me, lots of others > > have CF7 working fine on a setup like mine, so all I want to > > do is figure out why mine isnt.. > > You are running XP you say right? Have a broadband connection? How about you > let someone remote in via remote assistance or remote desktop sharing and > have a look. At least that will help determine if you are the problem or > your actual setup is. > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196233 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Thank you for the life advice Michael. I appreciate it. I am not sure where the 'bitching and moaning' has come from. Not from me. The only critical thing I've said is that I think Macromedia ought to have allowed for the possibility that some people might not have a perfect installation, and arranged some kind of help documentation for it. And i still hold that view. No one has said anything to contradict that. Are you suggesting they shouldn't? If there's any bitching and moaning it's from people who are getting bored with this issue (and for heavens sakd I'm sure sick of it!!). If you don't want to read about the issue, just delete the thread. But it's important to me, I'm trying to get it resolved the only way I can, and I'm trying to be calm and relaxed about it, even though just installing CF7 has thrown my tiny business into disarray. And not only am I not demanding things of Sean, I am most grateful that he said anything. But he offered to pass it on to the installation guys. Sean did that himself off his own bat. I didnt even know there was a team called "the installation guys". I'm not demanding he do anything, just asking. He's MM's chief architect, nothing to do with support. But he's a helpful guy, always been polite and civil and helpful to me in the past, and he offered to help. So i was following up on that. What's wrong with that? MM in Australia dont have help for people like me. They rely on CF-Talk and CF-Aussie for the majority of support issues. So that's why I'm trying to get it resolved this way. I can't work on this at other times of the day because I'm contractually obliged to be elsewhere. What kind of support call is it going to be if i am not at the machine where the installation is going to be? I dont hold Macromedia responsible for that, but are you saying I can't attempt to get help to fix my problem here at CF-Talk because it's too hard? or because my life arrangements dont suit your way of looking at things? But it seems some people are more interested in teaching me manners and adjusting my lifestyle, and rearranging my contractual obligations than helping with the problem at hand. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:06:35 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > As for FREE installation support, if anyone can give me the > > Australian phone number where I call to get installation > > support between 9pm and 2am, I'd be most grateful. > > First off, you need the support, so you find the time to get in touch with > MM when they are available. All the information you need is here: > http://www.macromedia.com/support/programs/self/coldfusion.html > > Sean is not part of the team that deals formally with technical installation > issues; be grateful he offered to pass along the message in the first place. > If nothing comes of it, perhaps contact Sean off-list. Given all the > bitchin_and_moanin over the last couple days I wouldn't hold my breathe. > It's not Sean's job to follow up with you, that is just the way it is. > > > So I am trying to find out what went wrong. I have looked at > > all the things I can think of, it's still not working, so I > > have no other choice than to go to the resource set up for > > precisely this situation > > - the mailing list. > > Right. And people have given you things to try, etc. Nothing worked for you. > That means one of two things: the problem is you or the problem is so > obscure you are the very first person to discover it. > > > And can you poke the installation guys in the ribs for me please to > > see if they can shed any light on what's wrong? Or give me the > > Australian number where I get support between 9pm and 2am? > > Again, MM doesn't manage the phones for Mike Kear, Mike Kear needs to make > himself available to call them MM is there. Deal with it and please stop > whining about the installation. I am sorry it hasn't been a good experience > for you, that is unfortunate. If you have tried everything people > recommended and you still can not get it to work, stop posting to this list > and explore other avenues. For the amount of time and emails you sent here > you probably could have figured the problem out already. > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196230 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Uns
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sorry if you dont like it, but that's how it is. Now that > i've made a start on installing CF7, I am forced to continue > or throw CF7 out > entirely. As so many people have pointed out to me, lots of others > have CF7 working fine on a setup like mine, so all I want to > do is figure out why mine isnt.. You are running XP you say right? Have a broadband connection? How about you let someone remote in via remote assistance or remote desktop sharing and have a look. At least that will help determine if you are the problem or your actual setup is. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196228 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I'm not whining, Doug, and I'm not criticising the program. CF7 is obviously working beautifully for lots of people. If it wasn't I wouldnt have given it two minutes thought. It was the fact that so many people said it was a piece of cake to install, that it installed flawlessly and ran sweetly and seeing Tim Buntel's presentation last Monday night, and hearing his assurances about how easily it installed and ran, that persuaded me it was safe to have a go. Now it hasnt. It might be my fault, maybe not. Probably is my fault. But i'm still at a loss to understand what I did wrong. That's all I want - to find out where I went wrong and fix it. And since you and others are criticising me for not calling Macromedia, perhaps I should explain some things about why that's not possible. First of all the time - I am on the train to my clients at 7am. I get there at 8.45am. I work without even pausing for lunch till 5.30 then back on the train home. I am back at my office at 7.15pm. I have an hour to eat dinner and see my family, then I go to my office to run my own business. THAT's when I can start working on this issue.By that time, there is no one answering the phone at Macromedia, unless there's been a radical change in things in the last few years and they've put on a lot more people. Secondly, Macromedia here have never offered advanced tech support to small outfits like mine. The tech people are only available for people who own their own servers and spend big bucks directly with Macromedia. I run a one--person consultancy business and arent even on their radar unless i make a big fuss. Macormedia here rely on CF-Talk and CF-Aussie to provide the day-to-day support.And it's been a good strategy for them. Very low cost, fast, responsive help for users, and it works. Only now, when the problem is not obvious, I'm trying to work through the issue with a quite large number of very helpful people, I'm getting static from you and Sean for daring to persist with it. I'm not angry with anyone, I'm not whining. I am being persistent though, because I have to be. If I am not to be left behind when everyone else moves to CF7, I have to have a CF7 installation to work on. And I'm not going to ask my hosting company to change to CF7 on my production servers before I've had a look at the product myself and this is the only way I can do it. Sorry if you dont like it, but that's how it is. Now that i've made a start on installing CF7, I am forced to continue or throw CF7 out entirely. As so many people have pointed out to me, lots of others have CF7 working fine on a setup like mine, so all I want to do is figure out why mine isnt.. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:37:19 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a > little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than > likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are > running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike, > not a one.. And they are all 3 multiserver installs. > Call Macromedia and get some expert help and please quit the whining! > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:48:11 -0500, Douglas Knudsen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at > > > all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll > > IIRC, you stated you were installing the multiserver version. The > > above does not indicate that. > > > > Now, I understand ur frustration and all, but your servers do NOT run > > win XP, so getting it installed on ur XP system is no real indicative > > test basis for deciding on installing it on ur server. Maybe try > > installing it on a win2k pro or server, eh? > > > > Doug > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196227 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > As for FREE installation support, if anyone can give me the > Australian phone number where I call to get installation > support between 9pm and 2am, I'd be most grateful. First off, you need the support, so you find the time to get in touch with MM when they are available. All the information you need is here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/programs/self/coldfusion.html Sean is not part of the team that deals formally with technical installation issues; be grateful he offered to pass along the message in the first place. If nothing comes of it, perhaps contact Sean off-list. Given all the bitchin_and_moanin over the last couple days I wouldn't hold my breathe. It's not Sean's job to follow up with you, that is just the way it is. > So I am trying to find out what went wrong. I have looked at > all the things I can think of, it's still not working, so I > have no other choice than to go to the resource set up for > precisely this situation > - the mailing list. Right. And people have given you things to try, etc. Nothing worked for you. That means one of two things: the problem is you or the problem is so obscure you are the very first person to discover it. > And can you poke the installation guys in the ribs for me please to > see if they can shed any light on what's wrong? Or give me the > Australian number where I get support between 9pm and 2am? Again, MM doesn't manage the phones for Mike Kear, Mike Kear needs to make himself available to call them MM is there. Deal with it and please stop whining about the installation. I am sorry it hasn't been a good experience for you, that is unfortunate. If you have tried everything people recommended and you still can not get it to work, stop posting to this list and explore other avenues. For the amount of time and emails you sent here you probably could have figured the problem out already. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196226 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Thanks for your contribution Sean, but i think it's very unfair. First of all, I haven't bad-mouthed any part of Macromedia, except perhaps being critical of the people who figured it was unnecessary to give any help for people who didnt get an install going perfectly. And as i have said many times, I'm not alone. I've had lots of emails off-list saying things like "i'm the same" and "when you find out the answer, please make sure you post it because I need to know too". I have laid out the events as they happened, because I thought it would be important to tracking down the source of the problem, and would tend to reduce the tendency for people to keep on suggesting things I've already tried. As for FREE installation support, if anyone can give me the Australian phone number where I call to get installation support between 9pm and 2am, I'd be most grateful. Sean, the day before yesterday you said you were going to pass the issue over to the installation people at Macromedia, and see if you could get them to contact me. That would be terrific, but I've heard nothing from anyone at Macromedia except yourself, so how long would I have to wait? I can't hang about waiting to see if they're going to follow up or not, I have to keep trying things. And for nearly a decade, the support from Macromedia in Australia has been almost non-existent unless you're a much larger outfit than my one-person company. For us, it's been limited to the first line of support, where you sit on the phone for ages, then get a phone operator who makes you go through the most elementary things ... "is it turned on at the wall?" "have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling again" . then when you go past their 20 basic questions, they refer it to the US. In nearly 30 years I've only once had a US support person call me - and that was Seagate, not Macromedia. Sean I'm willing to be proved wrong, and I'll say so right here on the list, with a different subject line so more people will see it, but right now I sum up the situation this way I have a WinXPPro system. Lots of others have CF7 working on a WinXPPro system apparently just like mine. I did what you and others at Macromedia have exhorted me to do - downloaded the trial, and attempted to install it. For whatever reason, perhaps my own fault, perahps not - we'll see in the fullness of time I hope - it hasn't installed properly, and there is no help on the Macromedia site anywhere for situations where the install doesnt go perfectly. So I am trying to find out what went wrong. I have looked at all the things I can think of, it's still not working, so I have no other choice than to go to the resource set up for precisely this situation - the mailing list. What the hell's wrong with that? And can you poke the installation guys in the ribs for me please to see if they can shed any light on what's wrong? Or give me the Australian number where I get support between 9pm and 2am? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 07:45:59 -0800, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:11:36 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since you are definitely in the minority when it comes CFMX 7 installation > > troubles, and days of Q/A on cf-talk has not gotten you further, I would > > venture to guess that in all the emails back and forth with the list cost > > you about the same as a single incident call to MM support. Have you > > considered that? > > More to the point: Macromedia offer FREE INSTALLATION SUPPORT! > > So rather than bad mouth the product on the list when thousands of > people have installed it flawlessly and are extremely happy with it, > it would be much better to simply get on the phone and have a Tech > Support person walk you through the install process and troubleshoot > whatever strangeness is going on with your particular system. > > On the point of uninstalling CFMX 6.1 blowing away your CFIDE > directory: the upgrade instructions are pretty clear that you need to > back up your settings and customizations before performing that > uninstall (exactly because it blows away your CFIDE folder). > -- > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ > Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ > Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme > Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." > -- Margaret Atwood > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.h
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Thanks Doug. Actually I didnt say whether it was the multiserver version or not. I installed the single server IIS version. As for whether it works on XP or not, I'm not about to rebuild my entire dev enviironment, JUST to try out a new program. That's an awful lot of work and expense. I run a one person business, I have two PCs and that's all (unless you count the 4 386s and 2x486s gathering dust in the cupboard).And the system requirements on Macromedia's site say it works on WinXPPRo with 512MB of RAM (I have 1GB) so I'm taking them at their word. I'm sure they didn't just make that up, and I'm sure they tested it. And besides, as so many people keep saying, thousands of people have it working under WInXPPro, and all I want is to have it work on mine, just like them. I have run a dev environment for years with CF running on a PC under WindowsXP (CF5 was under WIn98) and there's no MM documentation that I've seen that suggests that's no longer possible. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:48:11 -0500, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at > > all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll > IIRC, you stated you were installing the multiserver version. The > above does not indicate that. > > Now, I understand ur frustration and all, but your servers do NOT run > win XP, so getting it installed on ur XP system is no real indicative > test basis for deciding on installing it on ur server. Maybe try > installing it on a win2k pro or server, eh? > > Doug > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196219 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I understand the frustration too but I'm tired of the bitching like a little girl. I agree with Sean, don't damn the program, its more than likely a user error. I've installed the trial edition on 3 PCs, 2 are running XP Pro and the other (work) is Win 2k Pro. No problems Mike, not a one.. And they are all 3 multiserver installs. Call Macromedia and get some expert help and please quit the whining! On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:48:11 -0500, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at > > all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll > IIRC, you stated you were installing the multiserver version. The > above does not indicate that. > > Now, I understand ur frustration and all, but your servers do NOT run > win XP, so getting it installed on ur XP system is no real indicative > test basis for deciding on installing it on ur server. Maybe try > installing it on a win2k pro or server, eh? > > Doug > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:18:21 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for your suggestions Adam. > > > > I dont have any servers I administer, except my own dev servers. I > > resell space on servers that are running perfectly well and are > > adminstered by someone else. They are running on CFMX6.1. I am now > > trying to learn about CF7 so I stay up to date, and help decide if we > > move our servers over to CF7. At the moment, the answer's a > > resounding NO, because if it doesnt go perfectly, there will be no > > official help (i wouldn't be buying from Australia because it's not > > installed in Australia) and if I try to use the principal help, herre > > on Cf-Talk i'll be criticised by the members of the list for daring to > > seek help here. > > > > Nope. This is a standard WinXPPro/SP2 installation with all the > > updates. (I always let Microsoft apps pick their own defaults too) > > The folder structure isnt laid out like that at all. Remember I just > > allowed the install routine to have all its defaults. The install > > routine made up its own mind about how to install. (I learned years > > ago not to try to change default settings on a new product) > > > > I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at > > all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll > > > > have no jrun folders. > > > > IIS won't allow me to add mappings to extensions. The OK button is not > > enabled. > > > > > > Cheers > > Mike Kear > > Windsor, NSW, Australia > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > > AFP Webworks > > http://afpwebworks.com > > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:58:19 -0500, Adrocknaphobia > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well 99% of the time you do not have to do this manually. However > > > there are numerous reasons why CF wouldnt be able to perform this > > > automatically. Usually involving how you setup IIS and system > > > privelages. As a professional hosting company, it may we worth > > > learning the ins and outs of the servers you must manage. > > > > > > Located the wsconfig directory. Usually at /runtime/lib/wsconfig > > > > > > There you should see numbered directories. You want to map a numbered > > > directory to IIS and name the virtual mapping 'JRunScripts'. This > > > directory holds the jrun.dll that you want to associated with cfm > > > templates. > > > > > > Under Application Settings - Configuration in IIS, you should be able > > > to add entries for file extension and link them to the jrun.dll. > > > > > > Under ISAPI Filters you want to add the Filter Name of JRun Connector > > > Filter and link it to the same jrun.dll. > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196218 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at > all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll IIRC, you stated you were installing the multiserver version. The above does not indicate that. Now, I understand ur frustration and all, but your servers do NOT run win XP, so getting it installed on ur XP system is no real indicative test basis for deciding on installing it on ur server. Maybe try installing it on a win2k pro or server, eh? Doug On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 07:18:21 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your suggestions Adam. > > I dont have any servers I administer, except my own dev servers. I > resell space on servers that are running perfectly well and are > adminstered by someone else. They are running on CFMX6.1. I am now > trying to learn about CF7 so I stay up to date, and help decide if we > move our servers over to CF7. At the moment, the answer's a > resounding NO, because if it doesnt go perfectly, there will be no > official help (i wouldn't be buying from Australia because it's not > installed in Australia) and if I try to use the principal help, herre > on Cf-Talk i'll be criticised by the members of the list for daring to > seek help here. > > Nope. This is a standard WinXPPro/SP2 installation with all the > updates. (I always let Microsoft apps pick their own defaults too) > The folder structure isnt laid out like that at all. Remember I just > allowed the install routine to have all its defaults. The install > routine made up its own mind about how to install. (I learned years > ago not to try to change default settings on a new product) > > I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at > all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll > > have no jrun folders. > > IIS won't allow me to add mappings to extensions. The OK button is not > enabled. > > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:58:19 -0500, Adrocknaphobia > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well 99% of the time you do not have to do this manually. However > > there are numerous reasons why CF wouldnt be able to perform this > > automatically. Usually involving how you setup IIS and system > > privelages. As a professional hosting company, it may we worth > > learning the ins and outs of the servers you must manage. > > > > Located the wsconfig directory. Usually at /runtime/lib/wsconfig > > > > There you should see numbered directories. You want to map a numbered > > directory to IIS and name the virtual mapping 'JRunScripts'. This > > directory holds the jrun.dll that you want to associated with cfm > > templates. > > > > Under Application Settings - Configuration in IIS, you should be able > > to add entries for file extension and link them to the jrun.dll. > > > > Under ISAPI Filters you want to add the Filter Name of JRun Connector > > Filter and link it to the same jrun.dll. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196183 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Thanks for your suggestions Adam. I dont have any servers I administer, except my own dev servers. I resell space on servers that are running perfectly well and are adminstered by someone else. They are running on CFMX6.1. I am now trying to learn about CF7 so I stay up to date, and help decide if we move our servers over to CF7. At the moment, the answer's a resounding NO, because if it doesnt go perfectly, there will be no official help (i wouldn't be buying from Australia because it's not installed in Australia) and if I try to use the principal help, herre on Cf-Talk i'll be criticised by the members of the list for daring to seek help here. Nope. This is a standard WinXPPro/SP2 installation with all the updates. (I always let Microsoft apps pick their own defaults too) The folder structure isnt laid out like that at all. Remember I just allowed the install routine to have all its defaults. The install routine made up its own mind about how to install. (I learned years ago not to try to change default settings on a new product) I have C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig but no numbered folders at all. In that swconfig folder is only the file jrunwin32.dll have no jrun folders. IIS won't allow me to add mappings to extensions. The OK button is not enabled. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:58:19 -0500, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well 99% of the time you do not have to do this manually. However > there are numerous reasons why CF wouldnt be able to perform this > automatically. Usually involving how you setup IIS and system > privelages. As a professional hosting company, it may we worth > learning the ins and outs of the servers you must manage. > > Located the wsconfig directory. Usually at /runtime/lib/wsconfig > > There you should see numbered directories. You want to map a numbered > directory to IIS and name the virtual mapping 'JRunScripts'. This > directory holds the jrun.dll that you want to associated with cfm > templates. > > Under Application Settings - Configuration in IIS, you should be able > to add entries for file extension and link them to the jrun.dll. > > Under ISAPI Filters you want to add the Filter Name of JRun Connector > Filter and link it to the same jrun.dll. > > -Adam > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196170 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Mike, I sympathize with your problem. The multiserver install is quite a bit more complicated than the standalone install. The biggest issue always seems to be getting the connector installed properly, which is where you seem to be stuck. Can you at least get to the JRun Management Console (from the server, http://127.0.0.1:8000/). If you can get the JRun Console open, then you really are not that far from having a running system. There should be a folder %JRun_root%/lib/wsconfig/. That is where the config information for connections to an external Web server are stored. The wsconfig GUI makes numbered folders inside that folder- 1,2,3, etc, for each external Web server connection you create. If that isn't working, you can create the connection manually. It's a pain, but I got the hang of it and now I just prefer to do everything by hand. I'm running Apache, though, so your config will differ somewhat from mine. I have a disabled IIS install from 6.1 that I will borrow from. The basic config goes like this: 1. Create a folder inside %JRun_root%/lib/wsconfig. Call it whatever you want- I use the name of the CF server I created rather than a number like wsconfig uses by default. cfusion is the name of the default CF server the installer creates. 2. Inside that folder, create a text file called jrunserver.store. Open the file with Notepad and add this line: proxyservers=proxyservers=127.0.0.1:%server_port% where %server_port% is the proxy port for the cfusion server (or other CF server you have created) in the JRun Management Console. You'll find that proxy port value right on the opening page on the JMC. 3. Inside the same folder, create a text file called jrun_iis6_wildcard.ini. In the file add the lines: verbose=false serverstore=%JRun_root%/wsconfig/%foldername%/jrunserver.store bootstrap=127.0.0.1:%server_port% apialloc=false ssl=false #errorurl= where %JRun_root% is the full path to JRun, e.g. c:/JRun4, %foldername% is the name of the folder where you created the file and %server_port% is the same as step 2. 4. Find the JRun ISAPI filter for IIS. I think it is called jrun_iis6_wildcard.dll. Can anyone else confirm whether that is the same in 7 as in 6.x? I don't know if that same dll is used for XP, this was from a Server 2003 install. The IIS 5 file was called jrun.dll. 5. Copy the .dll ISAPI filter from Step 4 into the folder you created under wsconfig. You will point to that copy of the file for your IIS config. 6. In IIS, select your Web site, select Home Directory, click Configuration. Under Mappings, click Insert next to Wildcard Application Mappings. Point to the dll file. My install in 6.1 pointed here: C:\JRun4\lib\wsconfig\2\jrun_iis6_wildcard.dll. 7. Back in the wsconfig folder, make a text file called wsconfig.properties. I'm borrowing from a 6.1 server config again. In the text file, add these lines: 1=IIS,1,false,"" 1.srv=localhost,"cfusion" 1.cfmx=true, where "cfusion" is the name of the CF Server in the JMC. Stop and start JRun Admin Server Service, JRun Default Server Service, and JRun CFusion Server Service. First thing- run the CF Admin. It will want to install ODBC services, etc. to finish the configuration. I hope that helps, anyone with clarification or corrections? Rob ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196145 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:11:36 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since you are definitely in the minority when it comes CFMX 7 installation > troubles, and days of Q/A on cf-talk has not gotten you further, I would > venture to guess that in all the emails back and forth with the list cost > you about the same as a single incident call to MM support. Have you > considered that? More to the point: Macromedia offer FREE INSTALLATION SUPPORT! So rather than bad mouth the product on the list when thousands of people have installed it flawlessly and are extremely happy with it, it would be much better to simply get on the phone and have a Tech Support person walk you through the install process and troubleshoot whatever strangeness is going on with your particular system. On the point of uninstalling CFMX 6.1 blowing away your CFIDE directory: the upgrade instructions are pretty clear that you need to back up your settings and customizations before performing that uninstall (exactly because it blows away your CFIDE folder). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/ Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196128 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:11:36 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since you are definitely in the minority when it comes CFMX 7 installation > troubles, and days of Q/A on cf-talk has not gotten you further, I would > venture to guess that in all the emails back and forth with the list cost > you about the same as a single incident call to MM support. Have you > considered that? Isn't MM tech support free for installation issues? -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196109 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Well 99% of the time you do not have to do this manually. However there are numerous reasons why CF wouldnt be able to perform this automatically. Usually involving how you setup IIS and system privelages. As a professional hosting company, it may we worth learning the ins and outs of the servers you must manage. Located the wsconfig directory. Usually at /runtime/lib/wsconfig There you should see numbered directories. You want to map a numbered directory to IIS and name the virtual mapping 'JRunScripts'. This directory holds the jrun.dll that you want to associated with cfm templates. Under Application Settings - Configuration in IIS, you should be able to add entries for file extension and link them to the jrun.dll. Under ISAPI Filters you want to add the Filter Name of JRun Connector Filter and link it to the same jrun.dll. -Adam On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:36:23 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Virtual mapping? Another thing that I have to do manually? Is > there a list somewhere of all the things I have to do manually since > the install routine isnt doing it? > > No, there's no virtual mapping in IIS to any jrun directory. > > And when I attempt to manually map the .cfm and .cfml extensions in > IIS5.1, it wont enable the "OK" or "APPLY" buttons, so I can't add the > mappings to IIS. > > Does anyone know why this might happen? The environment is WinXPPRO > with SP2 and all updates up till this morning applied. > > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:23:41 -0500, Adrocknaphobia > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there a virtual mapping to the JRunScripts directory? > > > > -Adam > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196106 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I attached an image. Guess it got clipped... I will send it off list. Jeff On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:32:25 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:17:42 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > > > I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the config > > shown here should be the same. See if this helps. > > > > Jeff > > > > Thanks Jeff . > > shown where? > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196105 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Virtual mapping? Another thing that I have to do manually? Is there a list somewhere of all the things I have to do manually since the install routine isnt doing it? No, there's no virtual mapping in IIS to any jrun directory. And when I attempt to manually map the .cfm and .cfml extensions in IIS5.1, it wont enable the "OK" or "APPLY" buttons, so I can't add the mappings to IIS. Does anyone know why this might happen? The environment is WinXPPRO with SP2 and all updates up till this morning applied. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:23:41 -0500, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a virtual mapping to the JRunScripts directory? > > -Adam > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196103 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:17:42 -0500, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the config > shown here should be the same. See if this helps. > > Jeff > Thanks Jeff . shown where? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196102 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
[A] there is no MM support in Australia. for the last 8 years at least, any Australian support is restricted to "is it plugged in?" except through resources such as this list and teh CFAUSSIE list. [B] I only get to work on this currently at 10pm till 2am [C] I'm far from alone. MM clearly have an issue that they need to address, even if only through help documentation, and if I just shut up and forget it, it's not going to get fixed. Just like the 256colour thing in CFMX6.0. (Did anyone notice on the system requirements, it now says that a 256 colour graphics card is REQUIRED on the server? That came about because calls to MM support got nowhere, and I made a fuss on CF-TALK, until some wonderful and helpful people from MM's MX engineering picked the issue up and helped us out) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:11:36 -0500, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Thanks Adam. Lets suppose I havent got a clue what I'm talking about. > > (It's possible. My wife is convinced of that and reminds me > > constantly) > > I'm not prepared ot accept that just because it installs ok for you, > > that it's MY fault that it doesnt install for me. Not yet anyway. > > It might be my fault, but if all those thousands of others can install > > it ok, why can't I? I want to know the answer to that question and > > i'm surprised you dont too. > > Since you are definitely in the minority when it comes CFMX 7 installation > troubles, and days of Q/A on cf-talk has not gotten you further, I would > venture to guess that in all the emails back and forth with the list cost > you about the same as a single incident call to MM support. Have you > considered that? > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196101 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Is there a virtual mapping to the JRunScripts directory? -Adam On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:04:38 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very disappointing for me - I had high expectations that the > Macromedia install people would have learned from the fiasco > surrounding the CFMX6.0 install routines. No such luck.There is > no documentation anywhere telling us what to do if the installation > doesn't go perfectly. And nowhere does it say that CFMX7 wont work > with IIS5.1, the currently installed IIS with WinXPPro. > > So far it's cost me a lot of hours and i have NO working CFMX on my > dev machines. Here's the saga so far > > [A] downloaded the trial version. > [B] didnt extract properly (thanks Kay for the heads-up on that!) > [C} downloaded another copy, tested it with WinZIP and it worked ok. > [D] installed it into my Dev PC and let it take all the defaults. > [E] it didnt work.All .cfm files would try to open in dreamweaver > or download, not execute. > [F] Tried the web site configuration tool - it couldn'lt recognise > any jrun and I couldn'lt get it to give me an OK button so i could > configure any sites. In the services tool of WinXPPRo it showed that > IIS, and JRUN are both running. > [G] After mucking about with it for an hour, I decided to uninstall it > and try again. > [H] uninstalling CFMX7 removed my CFMX6.1 CFIDE folder, so my CFMX, > working, administrator was broken. > [I] I reinstalled CFMX7, and no change - still didnt work. I decided > that despite all the claims to the contrary, it didnt like being on a > windowsXPPro PC with CFMX6.1 > [J] I uninstalled all versions of CFMX and reinstalled CFMX7. > [K] No change to the situation in F, except now i didnt have CFMX6.1 > either. Now none of my dev sites work and the only way to do work is > to edit in dreamweaver, and upload to the production and test there. > BAD!! > [L] On the advice from a helpful CF-Talk-er, I ran the batch files to > connect to JRUN and IIS, but while they both ran without giving > errors, it made no difference. > [M] on another suggestion of a helpful CF-Talk-er, I Uninstalled it > yet again, rebooted a couple of times, to ensure no trace of CFMX7 > remained, then disconnected from ASDL, turned off anti-virus and > firewall, and ran the install again. Nothing different. Still IIS is > working, ColdFusion isnt. > > If anyone has any better ideas, I'm at a loss as to what to try next. > I've got my back against the wall now, because the only way I can work > on any sites is to work directly on the live or the client-viewable > staging sites. > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196100 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Hi Mike, I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the config shown here should be the same. See if this helps. Jeff On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:57:45 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Adam. Lets suppose I havent got a clue what I'm talking about. > (It's possible. My wife is convinced of that and reminds me > constantly) > > How come I have now tried to install CF7 a dozen times and it's never > worked, and there's nothing anywhere that helps me find out what's > wrong? Where are the Macromedia support pages to help people like me > who can't seem to muster the intelligence to install an application, > even after over 24 years of experience on PCs and another 12 years on > other computers before that? > > And what about all the other people who are watching this exchange > carefully, waiting for a resolution because it might help them in the > same predicament? > > I'm not saying CF7 never installs correctly. But it sure wouldn't > install for me. > > When I had install problems with CFMX6.0 on our server machine, it > took three WEEKS or my hassling and whinging and complaining and > making a bloody nuisance of myself before someone from Macromedia > popped their head up and acknowledged that perhaps I had a problem. > As a result, they discovered that CFMX6 wouldnt install on a common > server configuration at the time and required a 256 colour graphics > card.AND it turned out that DOZENS of others were having the same > problem. And no one at Macromedia had noticed that when they changed > the install program they used, that the minimum spec for the target > machine had changed. > > I'm not prepared ot accept that just because it installs ok for you, > that it's MY fault that it doesnt install for me. Not yet anyway. > It might be my fault, but if all those thousands of others can install > it ok, why can't I? I want to know the answer to that question and > i'm surprised you dont too. > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month. > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:35:52 -0500, Adrocknaphobia > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mike, I really don't mean to be rude, but I think your statements are > > way off. Most likely this problem is between the monitor and the > > chair. I'm running your same setup, in addition to 4 other setups > > without problem. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196099 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Hi Mike, I am using XP Pro SP2 with the multiserver config, but the config shown here should be the same. See if this helps. Jeff Mike Kear wrote: > Yes I could and unless I resolve this soon, that's what I'll have to > do, but I would rather install CF7. > > If I go back to CFMX6.1 now, I will most likely never try out CF7. It > will never find it's way into my hosting company and I will never let > a client of mine have it either, because I wont trust it. > > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:13:07 +, Mac Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>can't you reinstall the dev copy of MX6? >> >>-- >>mac jordan >>home: www.kestrel.org >>work: www.webhorus.net >>them: www.jordan-cats.org >> >> > > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196098 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
> From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thanks Adam. Lets suppose I havent got a clue what I'm talking about. > (It's possible. My wife is convinced of that and reminds me > constantly) > I'm not prepared ot accept that just because it installs ok for you, > that it's MY fault that it doesnt install for me. Not yet anyway. > It might be my fault, but if all those thousands of others can install > it ok, why can't I? I want to know the answer to that question and > i'm surprised you dont too. Since you are definitely in the minority when it comes CFMX 7 installation troubles, and days of Q/A on cf-talk has not gotten you further, I would venture to guess that in all the emails back and forth with the list cost you about the same as a single incident call to MM support. Have you considered that? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196097 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Thanks Adam. Lets suppose I havent got a clue what I'm talking about. (It's possible. My wife is convinced of that and reminds me constantly) How come I have now tried to install CF7 a dozen times and it's never worked, and there's nothing anywhere that helps me find out what's wrong? Where are the Macromedia support pages to help people like me who can't seem to muster the intelligence to install an application, even after over 24 years of experience on PCs and another 12 years on other computers before that? And what about all the other people who are watching this exchange carefully, waiting for a resolution because it might help them in the same predicament? I'm not saying CF7 never installs correctly. But it sure wouldn't install for me. When I had install problems with CFMX6.0 on our server machine, it took three WEEKS or my hassling and whinging and complaining and making a bloody nuisance of myself before someone from Macromedia popped their head up and acknowledged that perhaps I had a problem. As a result, they discovered that CFMX6 wouldnt install on a common server configuration at the time and required a 256 colour graphics card.AND it turned out that DOZENS of others were having the same problem. And no one at Macromedia had noticed that when they changed the install program they used, that the minimum spec for the target machine had changed. I'm not prepared ot accept that just because it installs ok for you, that it's MY fault that it doesnt install for me. Not yet anyway. It might be my fault, but if all those thousands of others can install it ok, why can't I? I want to know the answer to that question and i'm surprised you dont too. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month. On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 08:35:52 -0500, Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike, I really don't mean to be rude, but I think your statements are > way off. Most likely this problem is between the monitor and the > chair. I'm running your same setup, in addition to 4 other setups > without problem. > > -Adam > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196093 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
You want to map them to a jrun.dll. Not an .exe. -Adam On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:34:43 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried to map the extensions in IIS manually, but I couldn't find a > ..exe file to map it to. I dont know what the name and location of the > file is that it's supposed to associate .cfm to, now that it's not a > windows application. > > But why should I have to do that? Run two batch files to connect to > the IIS, and then manually go into IIS and map the extensions to (what > ..exe or .dll is it supposed to connect to actually?) > > If I have to manually do one part of the installation (without any > documentation to tell me how by the way) how many other parts will > I have to do manually?The documentation says how to verify the > installatoin has gone properly, but says nothing whatever about what > to do if it hasn't. > > I dont know enough about what's going on under the hood to do it > manually with no documentation, no checklist and no instructions. > > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:18:42 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mike, have you verified that .cfm files can indeed be parsed by JRun? i.e. > > in IIS is the .cfm extension mapped to the correct .dll/.exe > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196092 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Mike, I really don't mean to be rude, but I think your statements are way off. Most likely this problem is between the monitor and the chair. I'm running your same setup, in addition to 4 other setups without problem. -Adam On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:27:30 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I could and unless I resolve this soon, that's what I'll have to > do, but I would rather install CF7. > > If I go back to CFMX6.1 now, I will most likely never try out CF7. It > will never find it's way into my hosting company and I will never let > a client of mine have it either, because I wont trust it. > > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:13:07 +, Mac Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > can't you reinstall the dev copy of MX6? > > > > -- > > mac jordan > > home: www.kestrel.org > > work: www.webhorus.net > > them: www.jordan-cats.org > > > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196091 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
I tried to map the extensions in IIS manually, but I couldn't find a ..exe file to map it to. I dont know what the name and location of the file is that it's supposed to associate .cfm to, now that it's not a windows application. But why should I have to do that? Run two batch files to connect to the IIS, and then manually go into IIS and map the extensions to (what ..exe or .dll is it supposed to connect to actually?) If I have to manually do one part of the installation (without any documentation to tell me how by the way) how many other parts will I have to do manually?The documentation says how to verify the installatoin has gone properly, but says nothing whatever about what to do if it hasn't. I dont know enough about what's going on under the hood to do it manually with no documentation, no checklist and no instructions. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:18:42 -, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike, have you verified that .cfm files can indeed be parsed by JRun? i.e. > in IIS is the .cfm extension mapped to the correct .dll/.exe > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196090 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
IIS --> Website --> Properties --> Home Directory --> Configuration (Application Settings). Are there Application Mappings for cfm, cfml, cfc, etc? -Adam On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:04:38 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very disappointing for me - I had high expectations that the > Macromedia install people would have learned from the fiasco > surrounding the CFMX6.0 install routines. No such luck.There is > no documentation anywhere telling us what to do if the installation > doesn't go perfectly. And nowhere does it say that CFMX7 wont work > with IIS5.1, the currently installed IIS with WinXPPro. > > So far it's cost me a lot of hours and i have NO working CFMX on my > dev machines. Here's the saga so far > > [A] downloaded the trial version. > [B] didnt extract properly (thanks Kay for the heads-up on that!) > [C} downloaded another copy, tested it with WinZIP and it worked ok. > [D] installed it into my Dev PC and let it take all the defaults. > [E] it didnt work.All .cfm files would try to open in dreamweaver > or download, not execute. > [F] Tried the web site configuration tool - it couldn'lt recognise > any jrun and I couldn'lt get it to give me an OK button so i could > configure any sites. In the services tool of WinXPPRo it showed that > IIS, and JRUN are both running. > [G] After mucking about with it for an hour, I decided to uninstall it > and try again. > [H] uninstalling CFMX7 removed my CFMX6.1 CFIDE folder, so my CFMX, > working, administrator was broken. > [I] I reinstalled CFMX7, and no change - still didnt work. I decided > that despite all the claims to the contrary, it didnt like being on a > windowsXPPro PC with CFMX6.1 > [J] I uninstalled all versions of CFMX and reinstalled CFMX7. > [K] No change to the situation in F, except now i didnt have CFMX6.1 > either. Now none of my dev sites work and the only way to do work is > to edit in dreamweaver, and upload to the production and test there. > BAD!! > [L] On the advice from a helpful CF-Talk-er, I ran the batch files to > connect to JRUN and IIS, but while they both ran without giving > errors, it made no difference. > [M] on another suggestion of a helpful CF-Talk-er, I Uninstalled it > yet again, rebooted a couple of times, to ensure no trace of CFMX7 > remained, then disconnected from ASDL, turned off anti-virus and > firewall, and ran the install again. Nothing different. Still IIS is > working, ColdFusion isnt. > > If anyone has any better ideas, I'm at a loss as to what to try next. > I've got my back against the wall now, because the only way I can work > on any sites is to work directly on the live or the client-viewable > staging sites. > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196088 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Yes I could and unless I resolve this soon, that's what I'll have to do, but I would rather install CF7. If I go back to CFMX6.1 now, I will most likely never try out CF7. It will never find it's way into my hosting company and I will never let a client of mine have it either, because I wont trust it. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:13:07 +, Mac Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can't you reinstall the dev copy of MX6? > > -- > mac jordan > home: www.kestrel.org > work: www.webhorus.net > them: www.jordan-cats.org > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196086 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
Mike, have you verified that .cfm files can indeed be parsed by JRun? i.e. in IIS is the .cfm extension mapped to the correct .dll/.exe -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 February 2005 13:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now. This is very disappointing for me - I had high expectations that the Macromedia install people would have learned from the fiasco surrounding the CFMX6.0 install routines. No such luck.There is no documentation anywhere telling us what to do if the installation doesn't go perfectly. And nowhere does it say that CFMX7 wont work with IIS5.1, the currently installed IIS with WinXPPro. So far it's cost me a lot of hours and i have NO working CFMX on my dev machines. Here's the saga so far [A] downloaded the trial version. [B] didnt extract properly (thanks Kay for the heads-up on that!) [C} downloaded another copy, tested it with WinZIP and it worked ok. [D] installed it into my Dev PC and let it take all the defaults. [E] it didnt work.All .cfm files would try to open in dreamweaver or download, not execute. [F] Tried the web site configuration tool - it couldn'lt recognise any jrun and I couldn'lt get it to give me an OK button so i could configure any sites. In the services tool of WinXPPRo it showed that IIS, and JRUN are both running. [G] After mucking about with it for an hour, I decided to uninstall it and try again. [H] uninstalling CFMX7 removed my CFMX6.1 CFIDE folder, so my CFMX, working, administrator was broken. [I] I reinstalled CFMX7, and no change - still didnt work. I decided that despite all the claims to the contrary, it didnt like being on a windowsXPPro PC with CFMX6.1 [J] I uninstalled all versions of CFMX and reinstalled CFMX7. [K] No change to the situation in F, except now i didnt have CFMX6.1 either. Now none of my dev sites work and the only way to do work is to edit in dreamweaver, and upload to the production and test there. BAD!! [L] On the advice from a helpful CF-Talk-er, I ran the batch files to connect to JRUN and IIS, but while they both ran without giving errors, it made no difference. [M] on another suggestion of a helpful CF-Talk-er, I Uninstalled it yet again, rebooted a couple of times, to ensure no trace of CFMX7 remained, then disconnected from ASDL, turned off anti-virus and firewall, and ran the install again. Nothing different. Still IIS is working, ColdFusion isnt. If anyone has any better ideas, I'm at a loss as to what to try next. I've got my back against the wall now, because the only way I can work on any sites is to work directly on the live or the client-viewable staging sites. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:196083 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF7 won't run under IIS, wont install - business almost shut down for 2 days now.
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