Re: help

[M.A. Kruger]

wow I never would have guessed. maybe just a bad communicator - trouble really 
describing his problem?

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> On Jul 18, 2014, at 8:30 AM, Matt Quackenbush  wrote:
> 
> 
> Defies logic, especially given certain claims.
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358850
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:26 AM, mac jordan  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>> 
 Still doesn't work...?
>>> 
>>> That's still not a URL, is it?
>> 
>> ​It's like pulling teeth …​
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: help

[M.A. Kruger]

Matt, 

you need to make a stromger effort to understand what you are being told. we 
can't solve your
problem. we can only help point you in the right direction. 

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> On Jul 18, 2014, at 6:35 AM, Matthew Smith  wrote:
> 
> 
> \taolcad_images\products\resize\qry_latest24items.largepic1
> 
> Still doesn't work...?
>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 23:09, Maureen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> As I told you four days ago:
>> Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext  you
>> need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext
>> 
>> You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you
>> need the url to display it.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Smith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone?
>>> 
 On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith  wrote:
 
 Does anyone know what path I should use?  Stuck...
 
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith  wrote:
> 
> what path should i use?
> 
> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error.  The code inside the
>>> CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails.  The syntax
>>> on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code
>>> on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just
>>> tried.  So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH.
>> 
>> This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't
>> require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type,
>> but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception
>> thrown by the CFTRY.
>> 
>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> 1-202-527-9569
>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>> 
>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> 
> 

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Re: help

[Matt Quackenbush]

Defies logic, especially given certain claims.
http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358850



On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:26 AM, mac jordan  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>
> > > Still doesn't work...?
> >
> > That's still not a URL, is it?
> >
>
> ​It's like pulling teeth …​
>
>
>
> --
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>
>
> 

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Re: help

[mac jordan]

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Dave Watts  wrote:

> > Still doesn't work...?
>
> That's still not a URL, is it?
>

​It's like pulling teeth …​



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Re: help

[Dave Watts]

> > Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext  you
> > need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext
> >
> > You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you
> > need the url to display it.
>
> \taolcad_images\products\resize\qry_latest24items.largepic1
>
> Still doesn't work...?

That's still not a URL, is it?

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Re: help

[Matthew Smith]

\taolcad_images\products\resize\qry_latest24items.largepic1

Still doesn't work...?
> On Jul 17, 2014, at 23:09, Maureen  wrote:
> 
> 
> As I told you four days ago:
> Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext  you
> need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext
> 
> You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you
> need the url to display it.
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Smith  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone?
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know what path I should use?  Stuck...
>>> 
 On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith  wrote:
 
 what path should i use?
 
 
>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error.  The code inside the
>> CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails.  The syntax
>> on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code
>> on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just
>> tried.  So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH.
> 
> This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't
> require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type,
> but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception
> thrown by the CFTRY.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
> 
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
> 
> 

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Re: help

[Maureen]

As I told you four days ago:
Instead of a physical path like C:\magedirector\imagename.ext  you
need a url like http://domainname.com/imagedirectory/imagename.ext

You use the physical path to determine if the file exists, but you
need the url to display it.

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Matthew Smith  wrote:
>
> Anyone?
>
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know what path I should use?  Stuck...
>>
>>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith  wrote:
>>>
>>> what path should i use?
>>>
>>>
 On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

 > Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error.  The code inside the
 > CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails.  The syntax
 > on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code
 > on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just
 > tried.  So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH.

 This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't
 require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type,
 but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception
 thrown by the CFTRY.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 1-202-527-9569
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 http://training.figleaf.com/

 Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
 GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.


>
> 

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Re: help

[Matthew Smith]

Anyone?

> On Jul 15, 2014, at 1:59, Matthew Smith  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what path I should use?  Stuck...
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 10:40, Matthew Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> what path should i use?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error.  The code inside the
>>> > CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails.  The syntax
>>> > on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code
>>> > on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just
>>> > tried.  So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH.
>>> 
>>> This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't
>>> require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type,
>>> but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception
>>> thrown by the CFTRY.
>>> 
>>> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>>> 1-202-527-9569
>>> http://www.figleaf.com/
>>> http://training.figleaf.com/
>>> 
>>> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
>>> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
>>> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>>> 
>>> 

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Re: help

[Maureen]

Yeah...my bad. I have never used CFCATCH without a type, so I forgot
it was optional.

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't
> require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type,
> but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception
> thrown by the CFTRY.

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Re: help

[Matthew Smith]

what path should i use?


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts  wrote:

>
> > Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error.  The code inside the
> > CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails.  The syntax
> > on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code
> > on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just
> > tried.  So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH.
>
> This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't
> require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type,
> but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception
> thrown by the CFTRY.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> http://training.figleaf.com/
>
> Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
> GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
> instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
>
> 

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Re: help

[Dave Watts]

> Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error.  The code inside the
> CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails.  The syntax
> on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code
> on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just
> tried.  So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH.

This is all very accurate except for one portion. CFCATCH doesn't
require a type. It's generally recommended that you specify a type,
but in the absence of that attribute it'll simply catch any exception
thrown by the CFTRY.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
1-202-527-9569
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/

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GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: help

[Maureen]

Yes, this code is broken. You have a logic error.  The code inside the
CFCATCH will only execute of the code in the CFTRY fails.  The syntax
on the CFCATCH tag is wrong as you have no type declared, and the code
on the first line inside the CFCATCH is the same as what you just
tried.  So if it fails on the TRY it will fail inside the CFCATCH.

Also, to display images in a browser, you need that url path to the
image, not the physical path.

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Matthew Smith  wrote:
>
> I have uploaded the images to:
>
>  /site_ttheartoflovingcatsanddogs_com/toalcad_images
> /taolcad_images/
> /site_ttheartoflovingcatsanddogs_com/main/taolcad_images
>
> I have tried:
> /taolcad_images/
> ../../taolcad_images
> This code is broke:

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Stephen Hait]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> there should be no problem, cf10 supports both iis7 and apache.
>
> >
> > Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone
> > running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it
> would
> > be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration
> Tool
> > that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server?
>

Thanks Russ - sounds good.


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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Russ Michaels]

there should be no problem, cf10 supports both iis7 and apache.


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Stephen Hait  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp.
> >
> >
>
> > On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, "Steve Durette"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years
> until I
> > > mover to windows 7.
> >
>
> Thanks Russ and Steve, et. al. I appreciate all the good information I've
> gotten from the list.
>
> Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone
> running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it would
> be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration Tool
> that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server?
>
>
> 

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Andrew Scott]

IIS 7 Express is what is shipped with Windows 7. So should be no issues at
all.

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On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Stephen Hait  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp.
> >
> >
>
> > On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, "Steve Durette"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years
> until I
> > > mover to windows 7.
> >
>
> Thanks Russ and Steve, et. al. I appreciate all the good information I've
> gotten from the list.
>
> Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone
> running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it would
> be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration Tool
> that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server?
>
>
> 

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RE: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Eric Roberts]

You can also use Apache, which will allow for multiple sites.  Vista and 7
enabled multiple sites in IIS.  I remember reading a blog post from the guy
that made that descion.  He said he has never seen so much hate mail as he
had seen just around that issue alone and said he would never make that
mistake again.


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-Original Message-
From: Sergey Croitor [mailto:scroi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:22 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS


WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS.
Use iis_multiplex as a workaround


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Stephen Hait  wrote:

>
> I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. 
> I can get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to 
> set up a virtual directory for testing a CF website.
>
> I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a 
> simple .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified 
> my hosts file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as 
> test. I can browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page 
> displays. But if I try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a 
> Coldfusion error: File not
> found: /index.cfm.
>
> The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\.
>
> Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is 
> located?. Is there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved 
> for getting .cfm pages to be served properly in this setup?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions, Stephen
>
>
> 



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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Stephen Hait]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp.
>
>

> On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, "Steve Durette"  wrote:
>
> >
> > Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I
> > mover to windows 7.
>

Thanks Russ and Steve, et. al. I appreciate all the good information I've
gotten from the list.

Apache on XP would be a good solution as would iis7 express. Is anyone
running CF10 with iis7 express on XP or know how easy or difficult it would
be to get that combination set up? Would the Web Server Configuration Tool
that comes with CF10 work easily with that web server?


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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Russ Michaels]

Windows 7 is not required to run iis 7 express, you can run it on xp.

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On Dec 11, 2012 7:59 PM, "Steve Durette"  wrote:

>
> Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I
> mover to windows 7.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Stephen Hait  wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last
> >> post, it will save all these headaches.
> >> You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier.
> >
> > Thanks Russ. I'll look into iis7 express. I wasn't aware of that before.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Steve Durette]

Have you considered running apache? That's how I did it for years until I mover 
to windows 7. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Stephen Hait  wrote:

> 
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last
>> post, it will save all these headaches.
>> You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier.
> 
> Thanks Russ. I'll look into iis7 express. I wasn't aware of that before.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Stephen Hait]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last
> post, it will save all these headaches.
> You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier.
>

Thanks Russ. I'll look into iis7 express. I wasn't aware of that before.


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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Russ Michaels]

Stop trying to struggle with iis 5 and install iis7 express as per last
post, it will save all these headaches.
You also need to get web platform installer to make life easier.

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On Dec 11, 2012 4:25 PM, "Stephen Hait"  wrote:

>
> Thanks Dean, I didn't know about this and it looks promising.
>
> Stephen
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:
>
> >
>  However, you can create multiple sites via the
> > command line. I used to run a utility called IIsAdmin.NET (
> >
> >
> http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo
> > )
> > which does this for you and adds a taskbar icon that allows you to very
> > easily create and switch between the different site.
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Stephen Hait]

Thanks Dean, I didn't know about this and it looks promising.

Stephen

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Dean Lawrence  wrote:

>
 However, you can create multiple sites via the
> command line. I used to run a utility called IIsAdmin.NET (
>
> http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo
> )
> which does this for you and adds a taskbar icon that allows you to very
> easily create and switch between the different site.
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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Dean Lawrence]

Stephen,

Just to clarify, IIS on XP does allow you to define multiple sites, it just
hides the create menu from within the gui and does not allow you to run
more than one at a time. However, you can create multiple sites via the
command line. I used to run a utility called IIsAdmin.NET (
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/10561/IIsAdmin-NET-Create-Multiple-Web-Sites-Under-Windo)
which does this for you and adds a taskbar icon that allows you to very
easily create and switch between the different site. I have never used
iis_multiplex,
as Sergey had suggested, but I would assume that it does something similar.

Dean


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Stephen Hait  wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Andrew Scott  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Now XP is very old hat, and I would suggest upgrading your OS. If that is
> > not an option then maybe look into something like VirtualBox which will
> > allow you to run a VPS in your system. Now the beauty here is that you
> can
> > install any *nix flavour that ColdFusion supports and it is at no cost to
> > you.
> >
>
> Thanks, Andy - Virtual Box sounds interesting. I was just looking into KVM
> and SPICE on linux recently so I'll check into virtualization further now.
>
> Stephen
>
>
> 

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Stephen Hait]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Now XP is very old hat, and I would suggest upgrading your OS. If that is
> not an option then maybe look into something like VirtualBox which will
> allow you to run a VPS in your system. Now the beauty here is that you can
> install any *nix flavour that ColdFusion supports and it is at no cost to
> you.
>

Thanks, Andy - Virtual Box sounds interesting. I was just looking into KVM
and SPICE on linux recently so I'll check into virtualization further now.

Stephen


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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Stephen Hait]

Thanks, Russ & Sergey, for your info and suggestions. I was hoping to set
up CF10, IIS and SQL Server all on a single pc running XP. Looks like that
wasn't such a good idea. For now I just switched to using the built-in
webserver with CF10 which is just fine for my purpose.

On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> it seems like you are trying to treat a virtual directory as a separate
> website, which will not work. you can only have 1 website in IIS on windows
> XP.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Sergey Croitor 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS.
> > Use iis_multiplex as a workaround
> >
>


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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Andrew Scott]

Virtual Directory and a 2nd website are two different things, so the
question I would now ask is that if you go to the IIS configuration
settings for the website do you see index.cfm as a default page? If not my
guess is that you will need to run the web configuration tool to get it to
apply the necessary settings for ColdFusion to run.

Now XP is very old hat, and I would suggest upgrading your OS. If that is
not an option then maybe look into something like VirtualBox which will
allow you to run a VPS in your system. Now the beauty here is that you can
install any *nix flavour that ColdFusion supports and it is at no cost to
you.

but first look at your IIS settings, my guess is that the Web Configuration
tool did not setup the website correctly. Even if it did, any time you
delete and remove websites from IIS you will need to re-run the Web
Configuration tool.

Now on another note, creating a Virtual Directory is also not a real
solution and only a temp solution. What I mean by that is that each time
you create a Virtual Directory, then the Website has access to all your
Virtual Directories. Which in itself is not a bad thing, just not a habit
that I would really suggest going down.

-- 
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On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Stephen Hait  wrote:

>
> I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. I can
> get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to set up a
> virtual directory for testing a CF website.
>
> I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a simple
> .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified my hosts
> file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as test. I can
> browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page displays. But if I
> try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a Coldfusion error: File not
> found: /index.cfm.
>
> The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\.
>
> Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is located?. Is
> there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved for getting .cfm
> pages to be served properly in this setup?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
> Stephen
>
>
> 

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Russ Michaels]

it seems like you are trying to treat a virtual directory as a separate
website, which will not work. you can only have 1 website in IIS on windows
XP.

A virtual directory is as the name a suggests a directory that is virtual
(not real) which points to a real directory.

so if your vdir is called test, then to access it you need to go to
http://localhost/test

You need to have IIS 7 Express to get multiple sites, which you can install
from the "microsoft web platform installer".


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Sergey Croitor  wrote:

>
> WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS.
> Use iis_multiplex as a workaround
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Stephen Hait 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. I
> can
> > get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to set up a
> > virtual directory for testing a CF website.
> >
> > I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a
> simple
> > .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified my hosts
> > file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as test. I can
> > browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page displays. But
> if I
> > try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a Coldfusion error: File not
> > found: /index.cfm.
> >
> > The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\.
> >
> > Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is located?.
> Is
> > there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved for getting
> .cfm
> > pages to be served properly in this setup?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Help needed with CF10 developer edition on XP w/IIS

[Sergey Croitor]

WinXP doesn't enable multiple sites on IIS.
Use iis_multiplex as a workaround


On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Stephen Hait  wrote:

>
> I've installed CF 10 Developer edition on XP that is running IIS 5.1. I can
> get the CF Administrator to come up but cannot figure out how to set up a
> virtual directory for testing a CF website.
>
> I have tried creating a virtual directory, test, in IIS. I placed a simple
> .html file and a simple .cfm file in this directory. I modified my hosts
> file so that my current IP address 192.168.1.111 is set as test. I can
> browse to http://test/index.html and my test .html page displays. But if I
> try browsing to http://test/index.cfm I get a Coldfusion error: File not
> found: /index.cfm.
>
> The virtual directory is located under the IIS root: C:\inetpub\wwwroot\.
>
> Do I need to something more to tell CF where this directory is located?. Is
> there a guide somewhere that goes over the steps involved for getting .cfm
> pages to be served properly in this setup?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
> Stephen
>
>
> 

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RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF

[Rick Faircloth]

Terry,

I know, for me, that the first thing I look for, instead of "all the facts"
is a simple tutorial to provide me a basic understanding of the principle
involved
in any new work that seeks to change my thought processes.

I would suggest looking in to the first tutorial that I used to wrap my head
around Responsive Web Design... I found it at http://.udemy.com. (Short
for
U-Academy or Your-Academy. Perhaps you can get into outline of the course,
which comes complete with project files for you to view and work on, as well
as
an instructor explaining what you see in the code.

The tutorial is the construction of a basic responsive web site, from start
to finish.
It's found at http://www.udemy.com/creating-reponsive-web-design.
(Hopefully, you can
access this page without logging in. If not, just search the site for it.) I
think the
cost was $19 and you have access to it (at least, I did at the time) for a
year.

It was a really well-spent $19 for a simple, but complete intro to
responsive web design.

But after this, if you take the course, don't stop at understanding
responsive web design.
Definitely look in Adaptive Web design, because it is slightly different in
its approach
and looks to be more future-proof, with so many devices of varying pixel
density and
screen size constantly flooding the market.

I'm working on Adaptive Web Design currently, and from the looks of it, will
adopt that
approach, as opposed to Responsive Web Design.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: terry [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:35 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF


Thank you Rick, This is exactly what I was looking for.
I have a lot of reading ahead of me and then a lot of work to put it all in
play.

Terry Troxel

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:39 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF


Hi, Terry...

My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate
mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion
has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile.

ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form.

The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm.
(CSS3 to be more precise...)

I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my
mobile sites.

But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone)
that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers
and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive
Site Design.  I think this is the future.  Not only does it make developing
for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the "sites"
or should I say "adaptations" of the site under one domain, instead of
site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and
m.site.com for another.  It becomes very difficult for site owners to
promote all those domains and subdomains to customers.

Responsive and Adaptive Web Design & Development, again, keeps everything
under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM.

So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design,
learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them
and you'll be off to a good start.

Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I
started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out.

Hope this helps!

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF


I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how
to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion.

Terry Troxel








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Re: Help with creating a mobile website with CF

[Azadi Saryev]

Terry

Check out Brad Frost's 'This is Responsive' github pages - it is a
great place to start:
http://bradfrost.github.com/this-is-responsive/

Azadi

On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 1:35 PM, terry  wrote:
>
> Thank you Rick, This is exactly what I was looking for.
> I have a lot of reading ahead of me and then a lot of work to put it all in
> play.
>
> Terry Troxel
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:39 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF
>
>
> Hi, Terry...
>
> My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate
> mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion
> has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile.
>
> ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form.
>
> The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm.
> (CSS3 to be more precise...)
>
> I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my
> mobile sites.
>
> But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone)
> that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers
> and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive
> Site Design.  I think this is the future.  Not only does it make developing
> for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the "sites"
> or should I say "adaptations" of the site under one domain, instead of
> site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and
> m.site.com for another.  It becomes very difficult for site owners to
> promote all those domains and subdomains to customers.
>
> Responsive and Adaptive Web Design & Development, again, keeps everything
> under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM.
>
> So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design,
> learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them
> and you'll be off to a good start.
>
> Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I
> started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF
>
>
> I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how
> to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion.
>
> Terry Troxel
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF

[terry]

Thank you Rick, This is exactly what I was looking for.
I have a lot of reading ahead of me and then a lot of work to put it all in
play.

Terry Troxel

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:39 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF


Hi, Terry...

My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate
mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion
has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile.

ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form.

The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm.
(CSS3 to be more precise...)

I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my
mobile sites.

But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone)
that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers
and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive
Site Design.  I think this is the future.  Not only does it make developing
for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the "sites"
or should I say "adaptations" of the site under one domain, instead of
site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and
m.site.com for another.  It becomes very difficult for site owners to
promote all those domains and subdomains to customers.

Responsive and Adaptive Web Design & Development, again, keeps everything
under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM.

So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design,
learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them
and you'll be off to a good start.

Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I
started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out.

Hope this helps!

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF


I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how
to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion.

Terry Troxel






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RE: Help with creating a mobile website with CF

[Rick Faircloth]

Hi, Terry...

My perspective, after creating a couple of real estate
mobile sites which make heavy use of ColdFusion, is that ColdFusion
has little to nothing to do with whether or not a site is mobile.

ColdFusion simply puts content on the page in raw form.

The work of making a site mobile is done mainly in the CSS realm.
(CSS3 to be more precise...)

I use HTML5, ColdFusion, jQuery, and CSS3 to design and develop my
mobile sites.

But before you start down the path of making mobile sites (smartphone)
that are designed separately from their tablet, and desktop brothers
and sisters, let me encourage you to delve into Responsive and Adaptive
Site Design.  I think this is the future.  Not only does it make developing
for multiple sized devices simpler, it allows you to keep all the "sites"
or should I say "adaptations" of the site under one domain, instead of
site.com for desktop, site.mobi, for another one of the versions, and
m.site.com for another.  It becomes very difficult for site owners to
promote all those domains and subdomains to customers.

Responsive and Adaptive Web Design & Development, again, keeps everything
under one domain and that also helps a lot with SEO/SEM.

So, do some searching for Responsive Web Design and Adaptive Web Design,
learn the distinctions (they're not that different), understand them
and you'll be off to a good start.

Just some thoughts to help you get start on a journey of change that I
started about a year ago and am still working on getting figured out.

Hope this helps!

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Terry Troxel [mailto:terry.tro...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:57 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Help with creating a mobile website with CF


I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how
to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion.

Terry Troxel




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Re: Help with creating a mobile website with CF

[Russ Michaels]

using CF is no different to any other language, you simply detect the
mobile browser and deliver content optmised for that, this is usually done
by having a separate theme fro the mobile content.
Most of the common off the shelf CMS systems have this fucntionality built
in, such as joomla, wordpress etc.
For CF, take a look at MuraCMS
http://docs.getmura.com/user-guide/mobile/



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>
> I could sure use some help getting a grasp of where to start learning how
> to create mobile websites for Iphones and Android using coldfusion.
>
> Terry Troxel
>
>
> 

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Re: Help with CF file upload display

[Raymond Camden]

Your questions here a bit fuzzy. You want an admin page to see the
"email form results"... what email form results?

It sounds more like you want the ability to see what files were
uploaded by the person.

So you would need to ensure your file upload process stores the files
in such a way that you can later grab them in a bunch. In theory,
that's simple. Just create a unique "group" id for your form's
uploads. Then record each file with the group ID so you can fetch them
all.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Bill Alex  wrote:
>
> I'm using CF 9 and have multi-file uploading working. What I need help with 
> is a help desk type page that will display the filenames with links to the 
> files that are uploaded with the form that a user submits. When I view an 
> admin page, I need to see the email form results with a list of the files 
> uploaded and links to where they are.
> Any ideas on how I can get an admin page to display only the files associated 
> with each form submission? Thanks.
>
> 

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Leigh]

It sounds like something else is missing. Can you post your current code? 

 
-Leigh

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Brian Bradley]

That did get rid of the error but now it isn't inserting anything.  It appears 
to be ignoring the statement altogether.  

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Leigh]

> ie     found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, TRUE );
>-Le

lol.. Even my name is being truncated ;

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Leigh]

Did you forget to modify reFind so it returns subexpressions (ie a structure 
not a number)? 


ie     found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, TRUE );
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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Brian Bradley]

When I put in the found.pos[1]-1 I get "You have attempted to dereference a 
scalar variable of type class java.lang.Integer as a structure with members"  
Whatever that is supposed to mean?  

> Looks like my last reply was truncated.  (Out of curiosity, I am 
> resending a cfscript version to see if the lack of tags makes a 
> difference.)

>  
>     startAt = 1;
>     for (i = 1; i <= ArrayLen(getMatches); i++) {
>         found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, true);
>         // insert *before* the matching string 
>         DocContents = Insert( i, DocContents, found.pos[1]-1);
>         // shift starting position forward to ensure we find a *new* 
> occurrence 
>         startAt = found.pos[1] + found.
len

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Leigh]

Looks like my last reply was truncated.  (Out of curiosity, I am resending a 
cfscript version to see if the lack of tags makes a difference.)

 
    startAt = 1;
    for (i = 1; i <= ArrayLen(getMatches); i++) {
        found = REFind(url.terms, DocContents, startAt, true);
        // insert *before* the matching string 
        DocContents = Insert( i, DocContents, found.pos[1]-1);
        // shift starting position forward to ensure we find a *new* occurrence 
        startAt = found.pos[1] + found.len

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Leigh]

A lot depends on the search pattern.  But as you loop keep track of where the 
previous occurrence was found. Then start searching  *after* that position. 
Otherwise, refind will just return the first occurrence over and over again.  
You can use the fourth parameter of reFind to get the position and length of 
the string found ie  reFind(pattern, string, startPosition, 
returnSubExpression).  Then use those values to shift the starting search 
position forward each time you loop.

    
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/CFMLRef/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbec22c24-7e9a.html
 
Not highly tested, but something along these lines



    
    
    
    
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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Brian Bradley]

So, any suggestions how to go about that?  I just want to highlight words in a 
searched document and allow the user to go to next and previous match in long 
documents.  I thought adding a  would be a good way 
using an Insert function.  Now, I'm clueless on how to go about it.  

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Leigh]

> REFind( url.terms, DocContents, ...)

Also the code probably will not behave as expected if you are searching for 
partial words.  Since you are searching starting from the beginning of the 
string each time, rather than the last occurrence.

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Leigh]

> inserts the number in the wrong spot.

Insert adds the string *after* the given position, not before.  So you need to 
deduct 1 from the result of reFind()

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Brian Bradley]

Thanks Carl,
Now it just ignores it altogether and doesn't put any number in at all.  

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Re: Help with REFind and Insert()

[Carl Von Stetten]

The docs for REFind() say that the third argument should be a positive 
integer, default value is 1.

REFind() returns the position in the string where the matched string 
begins.  You'll need to add the length of the matched string (in your 
case, Len(url.terms) ) to this value to get the end of the matched string.

Try this:



HTH,
-Carl


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Re: Help Desk System

[Paul Kukiel]

This is the only one I kn ow of.  It's quite old.  I used to work with the
author:

Yet Another helpdesk:

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?event=extensionDetail&loc=en_us&extid=1003843

Regards,

Paul
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Trevor Orr wrote:

>
> Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either
> free or paid is fine.  I just need something simple that I can start with
> and customize to the client's needs.
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help Desk System

[Russ Michaels]

If you are looking for an actual support helpdesk as per your post
rather than a project/bug tracking system that other shave suggested
the only CF helpdesk I was aware of was cfticket, which seems to have
vanished.
www.kayako.com is the best helpdesk solution out there, but there are
various other free or open source solutions, probably not much in cf
though.


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Re: Help Desk System

[Brian Polackoff]

Not cf, but does everything you will need and more. A touch pricy.

Trackit by numera software is awesome.

Thanks,
Brian

On Sep 21, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Trevor Orr  wrote:

> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either free 
> or paid is fine.  I just need something simple that I can start with and 
> customize to the client's needs.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help Desk System

[Greg Luce]

+1 for Project Tracker

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Matthew Williams
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>
> And a darn good clone at that, with SVN integration as well.
>
> --
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>
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Re: Help Desk System

[Matthew Williams]

And a darn good clone at that, with SVN integration as well.

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Re: Help Desk System

[.jonah]

There is also http://projecttracker.riaforge.org/ - it's a Basecamp 
Clone. Might be another starting point.

On 9/21/11 11:19 AM, Trevor Orr wrote:
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> or paid is fine.  I just need something simple that I can start with and 
> customize to the client's needs.

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Re: Help Desk System

[Raymond Camden]

It's more meant as an internal bug tracking system. Typically a help
desk is a more public facing system.

But feel free to use Lighthouse. ;)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Scott Stewart
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>
> Ray camden has something called lighthouse, I think...check riaforge,
> http://www.riaforge.com
> On Sep 21, 2011 2:19 PM, "Trevor Orr"  wrote:
>>
>> Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either
> free or paid is fine. I just need something simple that I can start with and
> customize to the client's needs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: Help Desk System

[Scott Stewart]

Ray camden has something called lighthouse, I think...check riaforge,
http://www.riaforge.com
On Sep 21, 2011 2:19 PM, "Trevor Orr"  wrote:
>
> Just wondering if anyone knows of a ColdFusion help desk system, either
free or paid is fine. I just need something simple that I can start with and
customize to the client's needs.
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...

[Stefan Richter]

BINGO!

I think that was indeed the issue. I renamed the file variable and bam, no more 
error. 

Thanks very much. Man, I love this list.

Stefan



On 30 Jun 2011, at 21:41, Stefan Richter wrote:

> 
> Good point, I'll try with a different naming convention.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Stefan
> 
> 
> 
> On 30 Jun 2011, at 18:10, Leigh wrote:
> 
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>> 
>> Does #file# actually resolve to a string or a structure? Historically #file# 
>> was a reserved word like CFFILE.
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...

[Stefan Richter]

Good point, I'll try with a different naming convention.

Regards

Stefan



On 30 Jun 2011, at 18:10, Leigh wrote:

> 
>>  
>> 
> 
> Does #file# actually resolve to a string or a structure? Historically #file# 
> was a reserved word like CFFILE.
> 
> 

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Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...

[Stefan Richter]

Thanks,
the server is 9.01 and I already have a very similar other DLL from the same 
company working on the same machine. I believe I updated the .NET connector 
previously after having some issues first time round.

The OS is 64bit Win 2008. I'm not sure about the DLL itself, it was not marked 
as 32 or 64 bit. Any way to tell?

Regards

Stefan




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> 
> Just out of curiosity,
> 
> 1) What version of CF and
> 2) 32 bit or 64 bit OS
> 3) 32 bit or 64 bit dll
> 
> If it's CF 9.01 you need to update the .net connector as well, and
> some manual configuration to get it to work..
> Secondly there are issues with 32 bit dll's running in a 64 bit environment.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Stefan Richter
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> I could use some advice. I'm trying to use some methods from a .NET 
>> assembly. I'm instantiating it like this:
>> 
>> 
>> > assembly="#DLL#">
>> 
>> If I dump the doc variable I see all the assembly methods. So far so good.
>> 
>> I recall that I need to call init in CF to invoke the constructor, but when 
>> I do that (and pass a path to the document) I get the error:
>> 
>> Unable to find a constructor for class Aspose.Words.Document that accepts 
>> parameters of type ( coldfusion.runtime.LocalScope ).
>> 
>> 
>> According to the docs 
>> http://www.aspose.com/documentation/.net-components/aspose.words-for-.net/aspose.words.documentconstructor2.html
>> I believe that I need to pass a string.
>> 
>> In C# the example code looks like this:
>> Document doc = new Document(MyDir + "Document.doc");
>> 
>> I was trying
>> 
>> 
>> but receive the above error.
>> 
>> I admit I am a bit out of my depth here, but previously I have used similar 
>> libraries successfully after some initial struggles and help from this list.
>> 
>> Any tips appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Stefan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...

[Leigh]

>  
> 

Does #file# actually resolve to a string or a structure? Historically #file# 
was a reserved word like CFFILE.

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Re: Help with .NET DLL - Again...

[Scott Stewart]

Just out of curiosity,

1) What version of CF and
2) 32 bit or 64 bit OS
3) 32 bit or 64 bit dll

If it's CF 9.01 you need to update the .net connector as well, and
some manual configuration to get it to work..
Secondly there are issues with 32 bit dll's running in a 64 bit environment.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Stefan Richter
 wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
> I could use some advice. I'm trying to use some methods from a .NET assembly. 
> I'm instantiating it like this:
>
> 
>  assembly="#DLL#">
>
> If I dump the doc variable I see all the assembly methods. So far so good.
>
> I recall that I need to call init in CF to invoke the constructor, but when I 
> do that (and pass a path to the document) I get the error:
>
> Unable to find a constructor for class Aspose.Words.Document that accepts 
> parameters of type ( coldfusion.runtime.LocalScope ).
>
>
> According to the docs 
> http://www.aspose.com/documentation/.net-components/aspose.words-for-.net/aspose.words.documentconstructor2.html
> I believe that I need to pass a string.
>
> In C# the example code looks like this:
> Document doc = new Document(MyDir + "Document.doc");
>
> I was trying
> 
> 
> but receive the above error.
>
> I admit I am a bit out of my depth here, but previously I have used similar 
> libraries successfully after some initial struggles and help from this list.
>
> Any tips appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

I talked them into a few more days.  Currently we are aiming for Friday.
Phew!

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Brian Polackoff  wrote:

>
> So how did your first day go? Any load issues with the setup the good folks
> on this recommended?
>
> Brian Polackoff
>
> On May 8, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:
>
> >
> > On 8/05/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >>
> >> I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered
> there is
> >> actually 6GB of memory in them.  I had forgotten that I had to install
> the
> >> RAM sticks in threes on these servers.  Just sitting there idling, it's
> got
> >> 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free.
> >
> > 6GB, that's a nice number. Set the JVM max to 3GB, max perm to 512 and
> > let it take traffic. If all is good the OS will bump up to about 1GB and
> > the cache the same leaving a smidge of fully free mem.
> >
> > If you have a server monitor of some form you can then balance as needed.
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Kym Kovan
> > mbcomms.net.au
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Brian Polackoff]

So how did your first day go? Any load issues with the setup the good folks on 
this recommended?

Brian Polackoff

On May 8, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

> 
> On 8/05/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>> 
>> I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is
>> actually 6GB of memory in them.  I had forgotten that I had to install the
>> RAM sticks in threes on these servers.  Just sitting there idling, it's got
>> 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free.
> 
> 6GB, that's a nice number. Set the JVM max to 3GB, max perm to 512 and 
> let it take traffic. If all is good the OS will bump up to about 1GB and 
> the cache the same leaving a smidge of fully free mem.
> 
> If you have a server monitor of some form you can then balance as needed.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Kym Kovan]

On 8/05/2011 10:58 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
> I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is
> actually 6GB of memory in them.  I had forgotten that I had to install the
> RAM sticks in threes on these servers.  Just sitting there idling, it's got
> 340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free.

6GB, that's a nice number. Set the JVM max to 3GB, max perm to 512 and 
let it take traffic. If all is good the OS will bump up to about 1GB and 
the cache the same leaving a smidge of fully free mem.

If you have a server monitor of some form you can then balance as needed.


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Yours,

Kym Kovan
mbcomms.net.au



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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

I installed Win2K8 on one of the servers last night, and discovered there is
actually 6GB of memory in them.  I had forgotten that I had to install the
RAM sticks in threes on these servers.  Just sitting there idling, it's got
340mb cached, 5451mb available, and 5133mb free.

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Kym Kovan  wrote:

>
> On 8/05/2011 9:29 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will
> > have only 4gb on memory, at least for now.
> >
> > With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit?
>
>
> In a prod environment the OS will run about 1GB mem usage and 2K8 has
> this extra mem allocation caching trick which is really useful on hard
> working machines but you cannot allow much for that with only 4GB RAM.
> I'd say set the JVM for 2.5GB and 512 Perm and see how it flows (Look at
> mem usage in the Resource Monitor which you find in the Task Manager, if
> there is just a tad of "Really Free Mem" then you are fine.)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Russ Michaels]

Your proposed setup seems fine, sure it could be better, but it should
suffice to get you up and running and many peeps run on such a setup
permanently.
On 8 May 2011 03:11, "Kym Kovan"  wrote:
>
> On 8/05/2011 9:29 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>>
>> It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will
>> have only 4gb on memory, at least for now.
>>
>> With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit?
>
>
> In a prod environment the OS will run about 1GB mem usage and 2K8 has
> this extra mem allocation caching trick which is really useful on hard
> working machines but you cannot allow much for that with only 4GB RAM.
> I'd say set the JVM for 2.5GB and 512 Perm and see how it flows (Look at
> mem usage in the Resource Monitor which you find in the Task Manager, if
> there is just a tad of "Really Free Mem" then you are fine.)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Yours,
>
> Kym Kovan
> mbcomms.net.au
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Kym Kovan]

On 8/05/2011 9:29 AM, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
> It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will
> have only 4gb on memory, at least for now.
>
> With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit?


In a prod environment the OS will run about 1GB mem usage and 2K8 has 
this extra mem allocation caching trick which is really useful on hard 
working machines but you cannot allow much for that with only 4GB RAM. 
I'd say set the JVM for 2.5GB and 512 Perm and see how it flows (Look at 
mem usage in the Resource Monitor which you find in the Task Manager, if 
there is just a tad of "Really Free Mem" then you are fine.)



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Kym Kovan
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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

It looks like I will be x64 on Win2K8R2 for two of these boxes which will
have only 4gb on memory, at least for now.

With that in mind... can I up my jvm settings a bit?

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

>
> Robert,
>
> Get a fairly "standard" set of JVM args and duplicate them on all 4. Since
> you are running 32bit you will be limited to a 1.3 gig heap size (max 1280m
> would be a good starting space with a 256 meg perm size). Since you don't
> have time to do anything else I'd say go for it and see what happens. The
> only thing that worries me is sessions... are you confident that your round
> robin scheme will work and there's no problem with user information
> (sessions) crossing from one to the other... or not crossing as the case
> may
> be :)
>
> -mark
>
>
> Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
> (402) 408-3733 ext 105
> www.cfwebtools.com
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> www.necfug.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:45 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
>
>
> Thanks. I'll look into that.  Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well
> Squid and I would get along. :)
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress  >wrote:
>
> >
> > In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
> > reading up on Squid:
> >
> > http://www.squid-cache.org/
> >
> > Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
> > with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
> > is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
> > in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
> > required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
> > qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
> > >
> > > But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
> > handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
> > >
> > > I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
> > server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was
> > previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
> > >
> > > It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
> > weekend.  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I
> just
> > need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> > >
> > > Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> > >
> > > I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
> > (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server
> x64
> > running SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not
> have
> > any other sites on them.
> > >
> > > My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the
> same
> > database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> > >
> > > I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
> > distribution.
> > >
> > > Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
> > tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> > >
> > > Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Mark Drew]

Another option (and I hope people don't flame me for this) is to set up a Railo 
server somewhere there, or at least a few instances on a box, then you can 
handle a lot of traffic with a smaller memory footprint. 

Just a thought. 

Regards

Mark Drew

On 7 May 2011, at 17:44, Robert Rhodes wrote:

> 
> Thanks. I'll look into that.  Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well
> Squid and I would get along. :)
> 
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> 
>> 
>> In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
>> reading up on Squid:
>> 
>> http://www.squid-cache.org/
>> 
>> Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
>> with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
>> is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
>> in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
>> required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.
>> 
>> -Cameron
>> 
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
>> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
>>> 
>>> But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
>> handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
>>> 
>>> I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
>> server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was
>> previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
>>> 
>>> It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
>> weekend.  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just
>> need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
>>> 
>>> Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
>>> 
>>> I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
>> (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64
>> running SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have
>> any other sites on them.
>>> 
>>> My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same
>> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
>>> 
>>> I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
>> distribution.
>>> 
>>> Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
>> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
>>> 
>>> Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Mark A. Kruger]

Robert,

Get a fairly "standard" set of JVM args and duplicate them on all 4. Since
you are running 32bit you will be limited to a 1.3 gig heap size (max 1280m
would be a good starting space with a 256 meg perm size). Since you don't
have time to do anything else I'd say go for it and see what happens. The
only thing that worries me is sessions... are you confident that your round
robin scheme will work and there's no problem with user information
(sessions) crossing from one to the other... or not crossing as the case may
be :)

-mark


Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com


-Original Message-
From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:45 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!


Thanks. I'll look into that.  Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well
Squid and I would get along. :)

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
> reading up on Squid:
>
> http://www.squid-cache.org/
>
> Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
> with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
> is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
> in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
> required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
> >
> > But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
> handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
> >
> > I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
> server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was
> previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
> >
> > It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
> weekend.  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I
just
> need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> >
> > Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> >
> > I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
> (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server
x64
> running SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not
have
> any other sites on them.
> >
> > My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the
same
> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> >
> > I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
> distribution.
> >
> > Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> >
> > Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> >
>
> 



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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

Well, I am thinking I will try one or two win2K8 servers.  Unfortunately, I
can't order any licenses until Monday.  And by then it will be too late.

Does anyone know if the evaluation version of Win2K* R2 in MS TechNet will
work temporarily as web server in evaluation mode (no license applied)?
That is: will a W2K* R2 server in evaluation mode allow all these
connections?

I know we are suopposed to use them in production, but I really would order
the licenses before I installed them and would apply the licenses on those
servers as soon as they came in.

I am hoping it is a minor sin. :)


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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Wil Genovese]

Robert,  1 million hits a day on a single CF8 or CF9 box of sufficient hardware 
is fairly easy to handle.  I would want some more redundancy. Having a hot fail 
over for the CF box and the SQL server would be a good idea.  




Wil Genovese
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Systems Administrator
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On May 7, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Robert Rhodes wrote:

> 
> Thanks. I'll look into that.  Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well
> Squid and I would get along. :)
> 
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> 
>> 
>> In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
>> reading up on Squid:
>> 
>> http://www.squid-cache.org/
>> 
>> Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
>> with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
>> is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
>> in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
>> required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.
>> 
>> -Cameron
>> 
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
>> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
>>> 
>>> But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
>> handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
>>> 
>>> I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
>> server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was
>> previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
>>> 
>>> It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
>> weekend.  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just
>> need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
>>> 
>>> Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
>>> 
>>> I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
>> (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64
>> running SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have
>> any other sites on them.
>>> 
>>> My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same
>> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
>>> 
>>> I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
>> distribution.
>>> 
>>> Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
>> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
>>> 
>>> Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

Thanks. I'll look into that.  Being a Windows guy, I am not sure how well
Squid and I would get along. :)

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:

>
> In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
> reading up on Squid:
>
> http://www.squid-cache.org/
>
> Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
> with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
> is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
> in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
> required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.
>
> -Cameron
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
> >
> > But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
> handle a ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
> >
> > I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
> server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was
> previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
> >
> > It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
> weekend.  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just
> need to this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> >
> > Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> >
> > I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
> (fairly fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64
> running SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have
> any other sites on them.
> >
> > My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same
> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> >
> > I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
> distribution.
> >
> > Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> >
> > Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> >
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Cameron Childress]

In addition to other comments, it might be worth spending a minute
reading up on Squid:

http://www.squid-cache.org/

Caching some or all of the site could mean you can do the entire thing
with just 2 CF machines.  In my experience, the bottleneck for Squid
is not the OS or Squid itself, but the capacity of the network cards
in the machine.  It can handle ALOT of traffic.  The learning curve
required to implement this may or may not be within your time window.

-Cameron

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Rob Rhodes  wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was 
> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
>
> But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a 
> ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
>
> I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL 
> server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was 
> previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
>
> It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. 
>  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just need to 
> this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
>
> Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
>
> I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly 
> fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running 
> SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any 
> other sites on them.
>
> My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same 
> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
>
> I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution.
>
> Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm 
> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
>
> Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
>

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RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Russ Michaels]

Here you go
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+2008+lockdown

If you get 1 million hits per day and you should really do some load testing
as that is the only way will tell what it can handle, it is going to be more
about what CF can handle rather than windows 2008.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 07 May 2011 14:44
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!


Well you folks certainly have me thinking.  I could set up one of the
machine as a Win2K8 server and see how it does.  If it's humming along just
fine, then I can steer more traffic to it.

With the speed increase you flak are talking about here, do you think a
million page loads per day can be handled by one Win2K8 server? (with a
backup in place of course)

I understand the basics about how to set up a site in 2K8, but what about
lockdown?  Can anyone point me to a guide somewhere?

The servers are behind a firewall with only port 443 and port 80 open.
Nothing else.


On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the 
> functionality and operations are still the same.
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au]
> > Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
> >
> >
> > We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines 
> > and moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and 
> > it is not quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the
new IIS, etc.
> >
> > I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system...
> >
> >
>
>
> 



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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

Well you folks certainly have me thinking.  I could set up one of the
machine as a Win2K8 server and see how it does.  If it's humming along just
fine, then I can steer more traffic to it.

With the speed increase you flak are talking about here, do you think a
million page loads per day can be handled by one Win2K8 server? (with a
backup in place of course)

I understand the basics about how to set up a site in 2K8, but what about
lockdown?  Can anyone point me to a guide somewhere?

The servers are behind a firewall with only port 443 and port 80 open.
Nothing else.


On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the
> functionality and operations are still the same.
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au]
> > Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
> >
> >
> > We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and
> > moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not
> > quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc.
> >
> > I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system...
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

uh flak below should read folks.

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Robert Rhodes  wrote:

> Well you folks certainly have me thinking.  I could set up one of the
> machine as a Win2K8 server and see how it does.  If it's humming along just
> fine, then I can steer more traffic to it.
>
> With the speed increase you flak are talking about here, do you think a
> million page loads per day can be handled by one Win2K8 server? (with a
> backup in place of course)
>
> I understand the basics about how to set up a site in 2K8, but what about
> lockdown?  Can anyone point me to a guide somewhere?
>
> The servers are behind a firewall with only port 443 and port 80 open.
> Nothing else.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Andrew Scott wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the
>> functionality and operations are still the same.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andrew Scott
>> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>>
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-----
>> > From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au]
>> > Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM
>> > To: cf-talk
>> > Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
>> >
>> >
>> > We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and
>> > moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not
>> > quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS,
>> etc.
>> >
>> > I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Wil Genovese]

Rob,

I've written a few blog posts on the settings in the JVM and provide some very 
loose guidelines as to what to tune and set.  Each server and application is 
unique and usually requires additional tuning beyond what the posts walk you 
through, but these will give you a good starting point and basic understanding.

http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/JVM-Tuning



Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

On May 6, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Rob Rhodes wrote:

> 
> Hello.
> 
> I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was 
> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed. 
> 
> But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle a 
> ton of traffic on a cf9 site.  
> 
> I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL 
> server site that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was 
> previously running on multiple servers using shared array.
> 
> It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this weekend. 
>  So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just need to 
> this all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> 
> Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> 
> I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly 
> fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running 
> SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any 
> other sites on them.
> 
> My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same 
> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> 
> I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution.
> 
> Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm 
> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> 
> Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Kym Kovan]

On 7/05/2011 15:35, Maureen wrote:
>
> Perhaps you are right about 2K8 being faster and better, but changing
> from an OS you know to one you don't know with a launch commitment a
> week away doesn't seem like a very good idea to me.

it isn't and I was recommending that, just commenting on a comment, I 
hope I didn't mislead :-)

It is already the weekend here in Oz so I also assumed that the sites 
have to be up in 2 days, not 9, hence my suggetion for settings for a 32 
bit 2K3 JVM. To the OP: Go with what you have got.


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mbcomms.net.au



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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Maureen]

Perhaps you are right about 2K8 being faster and better, but changing
from an OS you know to one you don't know with a launch commitment a
week away doesn't seem like a very good idea to me.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Kym Kovan  wrote:
>
> We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and
> moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not
> quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc.
>
> I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system...
>
>
>
> On 7/05/2011 13:38, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it's because that's what I have. And honestly, I am only a little
>> familiar with Win2K8, which seems a bit quirky to me.  And I am worried that
>> inexperience with it would lead to some problem I could not fix.
>>
>> I know Win2K3 fairly well. You just set it up and it goes and goes, no
>> problem.  I am hoping four win2K3s servers in round robin will handle the
>> loa

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RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Andrew Scott]

Yeah it does take a little getting used to the new UI changes, but the
functionality and operations are still the same.


Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/



> -Original Message-
> From: Kym Kovan [mailto:dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au]
> Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 1:46 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
> 
> 
> We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and
> moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not
> quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc.
> 
> I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system...
> 
> 


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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Kym Kovan]

We found 2K8 R2 so good that we are now trashing our oldest machines and 
moving to 2K8 wherever possible, the advantage is so great and it is not 
quirky, it is much easier than 2K3 once you get used to the new IIS, etc.

I'd even stick my head out and say 2K8 R2 is a good operating system...



On 7/05/2011 13:38, Robert Rhodes wrote:
>
> Yes, it's because that's what I have. And honestly, I am only a little
> familiar with Win2K8, which seems a bit quirky to me.  And I am worried that
> inexperience with it would lead to some problem I could not fix.
>
> I know Win2K3 fairly well. You just set it up and it goes and goes, no
> problem.  I am hoping four win2K3s servers in round robin will handle the
> load.
>
>

-- 
Yours,

Kym Kovan
mbcomms.net.au



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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Robert Rhodes]

Yes, it's because that's what I have. And honestly, I am only a little
familiar with Win2K8, which seems a bit quirky to me.  And I am worried that
inexperience with it would lead to some problem I could not fix.

I know Win2K3 fairly well. You just set it up and it goes and goes, no
problem.  I am hoping four win2K3s servers in round robin will handle the
load.

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:

>
> Curious why you are going with Windows 2003 x86 ( I assume you already have
> these licenses) over 2008 R2 x64 the speed difference is humungous.
>
> Also how much of this are you purchasing new as to comparing with what you
> already have?
>
> I am wondering whether it might be cheaper to throw more hardware, ram at
> the current boxes and Virtual Machine the instances.
>
>
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> http://www.andyscott.id.au/
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rob Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 11:58 AM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
> >
> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
> > qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
> >
> > But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to
> handle
> a
> > ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
> >
> > I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
> server site
> > that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was previously
> running on
> > multiple servers using shared array.
> >
> > It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
> weekend.
> > So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just need to
> this
> > all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> >
> > Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> >
> > I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
> (fairly fast
> > processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running
> SQL
> > Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any
> other
> > sites on them.
> >
> > My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same
> > database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> >
> > I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load
> distribution.
> >
> > Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
> > tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> >
> > Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> >
> > Rob
> >
>
>
> 

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Re: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Kym Kovan]

On 7/05/2011 11:57, Rob Rhodes wrote:
>
>
> I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86 (fairly 
> fast processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running 
> SQL Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any 
> other sites on them.
>
> My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same 
> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
>
> I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution.
>
> Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm 
> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.


We used to have servers with similar workload to what you describe 
before we went 64bit and virtual for those sites (with a startling 
increase in performance) and found a good base to start from was 1024MB 
max JVM heap size and a MaxPermSize of 256m.

As you are 32bit then the max you can go to with max JVM Heap is about 
1.4GB (theoretically 1.8GB but we never made that work) but be warned, 
_do not_ set the Minimum heap size to the same as the max when you are 
at these higher levels, CF frequently will refuse to start with "out of 
memory" errors in the output log. We found leaving the JVM min heap at 
256MB gave a fast start and it wound up to the max fast enuf anyway :-)

On some machines, (slightly different site combinations) the MaxPermSize 
ran best at 512MB.

HTH

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RE: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!

[Andrew Scott]

Curious why you are going with Windows 2003 x86 ( I assume you already have
these licenses) over 2008 R2 x64 the speed difference is humungous.

Also how much of this are you purchasing new as to comparing with what you
already have?

I am wondering whether it might be cheaper to throw more hardware, ram at
the current boxes and Virtual Machine the instances.


Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/


> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Rhodes [mailto:rrhode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, 7 May 2011 11:58 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Help! Too much tracffic and too little time!
> 
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I have been a lurker on this board for a while, and never thought I was
> qualified enough to offer opinions.  Well, that has not changed.
> 
> But now I could really use some advice on how to gear up quickly to handle
a
> ton of traffic on a cf9 site.
> 
> I can't really go into the details, but I have just inherited a cf9/SQL
server site
> that gets well over a million page views per day.  It was previously
running on
> multiple servers using shared array.
> 
> It's an impossible task, but I have to have this up and running this
weekend.
> So, I don't have any time or money for complex solutions.  I just need to
this
> all to stay up long enough to figure out a proper plan.
> 
> Until then, here is my working plan.  Please tell me what you think.
> 
> I have 4 cf9 standard licences, and four servers running win2k3 x86
(fairly fast
> processors and 4gb ram each). I have a fifth win2k3 server x64 running SQL
> Server 2005.  These servetrs are recent installs and do not have any other
> sites on them.
> 
> My plan is to load the site on all four servers, all pointing to the same
> database server (it appears much of the queries in the site are cached)
> 
> I would then set up round-robin DNS to do the poor-mans load distribution.
> 
> Most importantly I am hoping some of the gurus here might have some jvm
> tuning suggestions to help handle the load.
> 
> Ok let me have it.  Is there any hope, or am I just hopelessly screwed?
> 
> Rob
> 


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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

I have no problem with calling a spade a spade (and the OP's boss is most
decidedly a bureaucratic tool), and if that prevents me from being hired by
another tool, all the better.

Pete

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote:

>
> Just to point out.. These archives are googled and cached for ..
> well.. forever. You may not want to refer to people as a tool if you
> plan on working in the future. Just sayin.
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus 
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like your new IT manager is a tool.  I hope he has a plan to
> rewrite
> > those legacy apps!
> >
> > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf  >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5.  They have
> >> worked great for us which is good since the student workers who
> developed
> >> the departmental applications on them have left years ago.
> >>
> >> But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing
> >> documents, he will wipe the servers.  We have the original CF boxes with
> the
> >> install CDs and serial numbers.  But he will not accept that as "proof
> of
> >> license".  It has been so long ago that we have gone through four
> purchasing
> >> agents.  Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing
> documents,
> >> and the IT manager says that POs do not count.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the
> >> past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an
> >> educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF
> code
> >> to work with the lattest CF platform.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of
> CF
> >> server?  Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server
> >> Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of
> lincense?
> >>
> >> Please help!
> >>
> >> Thank-you,
> >>
> >> Ralph
> >> ho...@littleleaf.org
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Sean Corfield]

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Justin Scott  wrote:
> True, but the core CFML language was kept backwards compatible as much
> as possible to ease migrations.  If you're using CFX extensions
> written in C++ then you may not be able to transition to the open
> source platforms; I do not know if C++ CFX is supported there or not.

Open BlueDragon has supported C++ CFX for years and Railo just worked
with three sponsoring companies to get that code integrated into Railo
(so those sponsors get it first - everyone will get it eventually).
The OpenBD copyright holders released that code to Railo under LGPL so
it could be incorporated without license conflicts.

>> Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5.
> Not that it's very relevant, but Macromedia actually bought Allaire,
> and Adobe bought Macromedia, so it would be even more unlikely that
> Adobe will still have your purchase records on file.

And Macromedia bought Allaire *before* CF5 shipped. We closed the deal
in March 2001 and CF5 shipped as a Macromedia product in June or July.
What became CFMX (6.0) was well under development at that point and my
team (at Macromedia) started using early builds of CFMX in September I
believe (the alpha came in early 2002).

> That's just how software works.  Try to get support from Microsoft for
> Windows 2000 and you'll essentially run into the same thing.  CF5 was
> out around the same time so I wouldn't expect ongoing support for it
> either.

Adobe (and Macromedia and Allaire) support only one or two versions
back and that's pretty typical for all software companies. If you
don't pay maintenance or you don't buy upgrades, they have no
incentive (nor obligation) to continue supporting you.
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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Dave Watts]

> Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF 
> server?  Or locate something
> official that states ownership of CF Server Software boxes with CDs and 
> Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense?

If you buy a new license, you can use it with an older version of CF.

Here's my suggestion: talk to an Adobe EDU sales rep. Tell him about
your situation. Tell him that you'd like to upgrade to a new version,
but you simply don't have the budget to do that this year. Ask him if
he'll write a letter validating your current license situation, so
that you don't have to get rid of your CF servers in the meantime - of
course, if you had to get rid of CF today it's less likely you'll
purchase a license in the future.

Then, buy a CF license next year.

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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Ian Skinner]

On 5/5/2011 5:11 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf wrote:
> PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works.  So CF 5-8 
> versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we 
> can afford.

I can not speak to the affordability for you, but I just wanted to make 
sure you know that CF8 *IS* still officially supported and sold by Adobe.



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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Russ Michaels]

we have bought cf off ebay several times.
you do get some dodgy ones for sure, but if they are legit then they will
have a boxed product and a license key/card, which u can asked them to send
you a scan of.

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Mark A. Kruger wrote:

>
> Ralph,
>
> The lesson here is that you have unsupported software that Adobe does not
> care about. Clearly they are not concerned about whether it's licensed
> either so you are probably in the clear.  If the university was really
> concerned with licensing then the IT manager would be more concerned about
> being on a SUPPORTED version and you would have upgraded over the years and
> be on at least version 7 or 8 by now. But I'm not sure you can overcome the
> short-sightedness of one guy who holds all the cards :)
>
> -Mark
>
>
> Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
> (402) 408-3733 ext 105
> www.cfwebtools.com
> www.coldfusionmuse.com
> www.necfug.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ralph B Littleleaf [mailto:ho...@littleleaf.org]
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:11 AM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses
>
>
> Thank-you all for your replies.
>
> A. Open Source
> Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of
> the CF code there.  It immediately errored out.  So I am not sure how much
> of a rewrite is needed.  FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF.
>
> B. Adobe
> Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but
> Adobe is not helpful.  Basically, we were told that they do not support
> such
> an outdated version nor have records regarding them.
>
> C. Tool
> Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless
> as the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day.
>
> It's sad and funny at the same time.  Allaire already got our money.  Adobe
> doesn't much care as our version predates their take over.  And we got five
> CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses
> are defined.
>
> PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works.  So CF
> 5-8 versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a
> price
> we can afford.  I am afraid of getting them from eBay.  How can one tell if
> the license is valid?
>
> -Ralph
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Wil Genovese]

These types of organizations love Cost/Benefit Analysis reports.  Figure out 
how much it would cost to redevelop these applications compared to the cost of 
a few licenses. Also, more powerful hardware can be bought cheap 
(used/refurbished) and ColdFusion 7, 8 and 9 are far more powerful than 
ColdFusion 5 and can handle more load on a single machine than ColdFusion 5 
(with proper configuration of course). It may be possible to serve the same 
load or greater with far fewer ColdFusion licenses. 



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Systems Administrator
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On May 5, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf wrote:

> 
> Thank-you all for your replies.  
> 
> A. Open Source
> Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of 
> the CF code there.  It immediately errored out.  So I am not sure how much of 
> a rewrite is needed.  FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF.
> 
> B. Adobe
> Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but 
> Adobe is not helpful.  Basically, we were told that they do not support such 
> an outdated version nor have records regarding them.
> 
> C. Tool
> Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless 
> as the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day.
> 
> It's sad and funny at the same time.  Allaire already got our money.  Adobe 
> doesn't much care as our version predates their take over.  And we got five 
> CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses 
> are defined.
> 
> PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works.  So CF 5-8 
> versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we 
> can afford.  I am afraid of getting them from eBay.  How can one tell if the 
> license is valid?
> 
> -Ralph 
> 
> 

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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Justin Scott]

> FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF.

True, but the core CFML language was kept backwards compatible as much
as possible to ease migrations.  If you're using CFX extensions
written in C++ then you may not be able to transition to the open
source platforms; I do not know if C++ CFX is supported there or not.
They are supported in newer versions of Adobe ColdFusion though.

> Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5.

Not that it's very relevant, but Macromedia actually bought Allaire,
and Adobe bought Macromedia, so it would be even more unlikely that
Adobe will still have your purchase records on file.

> It's sad and funny at the same time.  Allaire already
> got our money.  Adobe doesn't much care as our version
> predates their take over.  And we got five CF server boxes
> that are considered worthless because how software
> licenses are defined.

That's just how software works.  Try to get support from Microsoft for
Windows 2000 and you'll essentially run into the same thing.  CF5 was
out around the same time so I wouldn't expect ongoing support for it
either.

> PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works.

That is good news, at least you know the code will still work.  In
addition to eBay, you might also look at Amazon to see if other
sellers have "new in retail box" copies for sale at a reduced rate.


-Jus

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RE: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Mark A. Kruger]

Ralph,

The lesson here is that you have unsupported software that Adobe does not
care about. Clearly they are not concerned about whether it's licensed
either so you are probably in the clear.  If the university was really
concerned with licensing then the IT manager would be more concerned about
being on a SUPPORTED version and you would have upgraded over the years and
be on at least version 7 or 8 by now. But I'm not sure you can overcome the
short-sightedness of one guy who holds all the cards :)

-Mark


Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
www.cfwebtools.com
www.coldfusionmuse.com
www.necfug.com


-Original Message-
From: Ralph B Littleleaf [mailto:ho...@littleleaf.org] 
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 7:11 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses


Thank-you all for your replies.  

A. Open Source
Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of
the CF code there.  It immediately errored out.  So I am not sure how much
of a rewrite is needed.  FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF.

B. Adobe
Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but
Adobe is not helpful.  Basically, we were told that they do not support such
an outdated version nor have records regarding them.

C. Tool
Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless
as the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day.

It's sad and funny at the same time.  Allaire already got our money.  Adobe
doesn't much care as our version predates their take over.  And we got five
CF server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses
are defined.

PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works.  So CF
5-8 versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price
we can afford.  I am afraid of getting them from eBay.  How can one tell if
the license is valid?

-Ralph 



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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Kym Kovan]

On 5/05/2011 10:22 PM, AJ Mercer wrote:
>
> Please post Railo errors on the Railo mail list

Adding to that, if the code works on ACF8 then there can be few problems 
on the Open Source engines as they are basically CF8 compatible. Any 
errors are going to be slight, or even bad code that CF5 allowed you to 
get away with :-)


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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[AJ Mercer]

Please post Railo errors on the Railo mail list
http://groups.google.com/group/railo
I am sure people there will be more
than happy to help out and I am sure they can be resolved very quickly

On 5 May 2011 20:11, Ralph B Littleleaf  wrote:

>
> Thank-you all for your replies.
>
> A. Open Source
> Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of
> the CF code there.  It immediately errored out.  So I am not sure how much
> of a rewrite is needed.  FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF.
>
>
>


> -Ralph
> --
>

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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Ralph B Littleleaf]

Thank-you all for your replies.  

A. Open Source
Last month, a student worker setup a test Railo server and moved a copy of the 
CF code there.  It immediately errored out.  So I am not sure how much of a 
rewrite is needed.  FYI, CF 5 predates the JAVA version of CF.

B. Adobe
Adobe bought out Allaire after CF 5. We were registered with Allaire but Adobe 
is not helpful.  Basically, we were told that they do not support such an 
outdated version nor have records regarding them.

C. Tool
Unfortunately, our school is a bureaucrat's dream. Our director is helpless as 
the IT manager can cite univeristy SAP regulations all day.

It's sad and funny at the same time.  Allaire already got our money.  Adobe 
doesn't much care as our version predates their take over.  And we got five CF 
server boxes that are considered worthless because how software licenses are 
defined.

PS A friend tried our legacy code on their CF 8 box, and it works.  So CF 5-8 
versions are possibilities so long as we can get the licenses at a price we can 
afford.  I am afraid of getting them from eBay.  How can one tell if the 
license is valid?

-Ralph 

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RE: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Jenny Gavin-Wear]

Exactly what I was thinking.  This guy sounds like a complete idiot.

Ask him exactly how he is going to replace the functions that your CF
servers carry out now and how he plans to pay for that out of HIS IT budget.

This retard must have a boss . it's time to get locked and
loaded!

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans 
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans >new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will
wipe the servers.

Talk to his boss and consider wiping the IT manager.



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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Claude Schnéegans]

 >>new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing documents, he will 
 >>wipe the servers.

Talk to his boss and consider wiping the IT manager.

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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Phillip Vector]

Just to point out.. These archives are googled and cached for ..
well.. forever. You may not want to refer to people as a tool if you
plan on working in the future. Just sayin.

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus  wrote:
>
> Sounds like your new IT manager is a tool.  I hope he has a plan to rewrite
> those legacy apps!
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5.  They have
>> worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed
>> the departmental applications on them have left years ago.
>>
>> But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing
>> documents, he will wipe the servers.  We have the original CF boxes with the
>> install CDs and serial numbers.  But he will not accept that as "proof of
>> license".  It has been so long ago that we have gone through four purchasing
>> agents.  Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents,
>> and the IT manager says that POs do not count.
>>
>> Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the
>> past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an
>> educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code
>> to work with the lattest CF platform.
>>
>> Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF
>> server?  Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server
>> Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense?
>>
>> Please help!
>>
>> Thank-you,
>>
>> Ralph
>> ho...@littleleaf.org
>>
>>
>
> 

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RE: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Russ Michaels]

Surely wiping the servers and deleing your apps would not be allowed by the
bosses ? surely they need those apps.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Hammond [mailto:khamm...@saleminc.com] 
Sent: 04 May 2011 16:08
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses


HAHA  - I was thinking the same thing!
 

-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus 
To: cf-talk 
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:02:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses


Sounds like your new IT manager is a tool.  I hope he has a plan to rewrite
those legacy apps!

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf
wrote:

>
> Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5.  They have 
> worked great for us which is good since the student workers who 
> developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago.
>
> But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing 
> documents, he will wipe the servers.  We have the original CF boxes 
> with
the
> install CDs and serial numbers.  But he will not accept that as "proof 
> of license".  It has been so long ago that we have gone through four
purchasing
> agents.  Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing 
> documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not count.
>
> Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for 
> the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even 
> with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our 
> legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform.
>
> Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions 
> of CF server?  Or locate something official that states ownership of 
> CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of
lincense?
>
> Please help!
>
> Thank-you,
>
> Ralph
> ho...@littleleaf.org
>
> 





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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Larry Lyons]

If you cannot get any help from Adobe, you may want to consider using one of 
the open source CFML engines like Open BlueDragon 
(http://www.openbluedragon.org/) or Railo (http://www.getRailo.com).

Unless there is something very weird about your setup, after recreating your 
data sources, and inputting in all the requisite mail server information etc., 
the apps should run without a hitch. More importantly you'll find that they'll 
run much faster, where on the Adobe or the FOSS engines.

regards,
larry

> Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5.  They have 
> worked great for us which is good since the student workers who 
> developed the departmental applications on them have left years ago. 
> 
> But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing 
> documents, he will wipe the servers.  We have the original CF boxes 
> with the install CDs and serial numbers.  But he will not accept that 
> as "proof of license".  It has been so long ago that we have gone 
> through four purchasing agents.  Our current one cannot locate the 
> original purchasing documents, and the IT manager says that POs do not 
> count.
> 
> Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for 
> the past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even 
> with an educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our 
> legacy CF code to work with the lattest CF platform.
> 
> Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions 
> of CF server?  Or locate something official that states ownership of 
> CF Server Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient 
> proof of lincense?
> 
> Please help!
> 
> Thank-you,
> 
> Ralph
> ho...@littleleaf.org 


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Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses

[Ken Hammond]

HAHA  - I was thinking the same thing!
 

-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus 
To: cf-talk 
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 11:02:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Help us Please - CF 5 Server Licenses


Sounds like your new IT manager is a tool.  I hope he has a plan to rewrite
those legacy apps!

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Ralph B Littleleaf 
wrote:

>
> Our department has several legacy CF servers running CF 5.  They have
> worked great for us which is good since the student workers who developed
> the departmental applications on them have left years ago.
>
> But now we got a new IT manager, and unless we can find the purchasing
> documents, he will wipe the servers.  We have the original CF boxes with 
the
> install CDs and serial numbers.  But he will not accept that as "proof of
> license".  It has been so long ago that we have gone through four 
purchasing
> agents.  Our current one cannot locate the original purchasing documents,
> and the IT manager says that POs do not count.
>
> Unfortunately, our department has been under budget constraints for the
> past three years. We cannot afford to buy new CF licenses even with an
> educational discount nor hire new programmers to modify our legacy CF code
> to work with the lattest CF platform.
>
> Does anyone know where we can purchase CF licenses for past versions of CF
> server?  Or locate something official that states ownership of CF Server
> Software boxes with CDs and Serial Codes are sufficient proof of lincense?
>
> Please help!
>
> Thank-you,
>
> Ralph
> ho...@littleleaf.org
>
> 



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