[cfaussie] Re: CF Meetup at a more Aussie-friendly time: 11pm US EDT (1pm Friday, Sydney time)
So it's a bummer to hear that some sites may block it. It's admittedly something of a social networking site, but clearly it's used for business by many. If I learn of more such issues, I may have to reconsider things (maybe create a page on my own site to receive the coldfusionmeetup.com redirect, which then offers the basic info that never changes for each meeting, and a link to the meeting event page for those who can link to it. I also always blog the meeting title and could point people to that category of my blog on that static page.) Personally, I'm outta here forever in about an hours time and is one of the reasons I'm not staying ... I mean, it's 2008 not 1998. If you cherish something, set it free. I'd hazard a guess that people (eg those on this list) who take their own professional development seriously would gravitate towards a more open working environment. Or conversely, those working in a somewhat restrictive environment might never have heard of coldfusionmeetup.com ... or cfaussie ... or webDU ... or WebOnThePiste ... or MXNA ... or ... ... or perhaps even test driven development, ColdFusion (or Adobe) beta programs, last years CFCamp, AIR camp this month, CFInterface, Robin Hilliard, www.carehart.org ... you get the idea... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: ECLIPSE / Flex Builder HTML Plug-in
yeah, I've tried using Aptana but don't think much of it (crashes on me too) how about http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/ ? although to be honest, I'm currently using DreamWeaver, mainly for layout and CSS. It's not bad, I'm surviving it --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF Meetup at a more Aussie-friendly time: 11pm US EDT (1pm Friday, Sydney time)
Will the presentation be recorded? Don't answer that Charlie! ... at least not before Robin gives the presentation. Have to encourage *some* people to make the effort ... [hint of an answer: http://www.carehart.org/ugtv] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF Meetup at a more Aussie-friendly time: 11pm US EDT (1pm Friday, Sydney time)
charlie, when it gets a bit closer, could you post the full URL to the Connect room here? (please?) I've just discovered the Network Nazi's here have blocked http://coldfusionmeetup.com and all forms of webmail and groups such as YahooGroups (but not GoogleGroups - go figure) and IM/chat and probably Flickr/Facebook/Twitter and ... you get the idea... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: is there a more efficent way of finding keys in FORM scope?
yeah, you're right - that was one of the choices. (FYI - there is a caveat there: there's a bunch of reserved suffixes that won't show up in FORM.fieldnames ... _date and _time are a couple) I was going to look at form.fieldnames as a list to search but I really need ListFind() to either return an array of matches or use a starting find attribute for the next one ... Hmmm... maybe a regex find within form.fieldnames, return a bunch of em? you've got me thinking now... it's just _gotta_ be faster than looping over the FORM scope, surely. thanx Andrew.. b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: is there a more efficent way of finding keys in FORM scope?
(FYI - there is a caveat there: there's a bunch of reserved suffixes that won't show up in FORM.fieldnames ... _date and _time are a couple) found it: it doesn't apply to my case here but it's perhaps worth remembering: http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/format28.htm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] cfsavecontent and custom tags
I coulda sworn I've gotten away with this in the past: (it's been a while since I've needed to use custom tags) I've got a complex taglib custom tag made up of a few of FORM controls that work together. The only reason I'm wanting to pre-process the custom tags is that various values and flags are calculated from the processing and used further down the page. cfif qPerson.recordcount GT 0 cfset showMorePersons = true / cfsavecontent variable=strCustomerPersonFormControls cfloop query=qPerson cfset counterPerson = counterPerson + 1 / cfoutput custom:customerTag counter=#counterPerson# customerType=Person -- blah de blah -- / /cfoutput /cfloop /cfsavecontent /cfif cfoutput#strCustomerPersonFormControls#/cfoutput but it's not rendering as HTML, it's just imbeding the custom tag CF code in the source. it must be code blindness and I've done something wrong with the custom tag, because mixing another (simpler) custom tag in with straight HTML works just fine: cfoutput div id=personControls_#counterPerson# class=personDiv style=DISPLAY: block div id=person_ class=custTypePerson #counterPerson#:/div /cfoutput controls:select name=selPersTit_#counterPerson# id=selPersTit_#counterPerson# data=#qryTitles# selectedValue=#qPerson.CUSTOMERTITLE# defaultLabel=== Select == class=custTitle / cfoutput INPUT name=txtPersFirNam_#counterPerson# type=text value=#qPerson.FIRSTNAME# class=custFName / INPUT name=txtPersLasNam_#counterPerson# type=text value=#qPerson.SURNAME# class=custLName / INPUT name=hdnPersPBA_#counterPerson# type=hidden value=#qPerson.PK_CUSTOMERID# / input name=chkPersDelete_#counterPerson# id=hdnPersPBA_#counterPerson# type=checkbox value=true class=persChkDel / label for=chkPersDelete_#counterPerson# class=persChkDelLblDelete/label /cfoutput /div!-- %% generated %% -- cfif qPerson.recordcount GT 0 cfset showMorePersons = true / cfsavecontent variable=strCustomerPersonFormControls cfloop query=qPerson cfoutput div id=personControls_#counterPerson# class=personDiv style=DISPLAY: block div id=person_ class=custTypePerson #counterPerson#:/div /cfoutput controls:select name=selPersTit_#counterPerson# id=selPersTit_#counterPerson# data=#qryTitles# selectedValue=#qPerson.CUSTOMERTITLE# defaultLabel=== Select == class=custTitle / cfoutput INPUT name=txtPersFirNam_#counterPerson# type=text value=#qPerson.FIRSTNAME# class=custFName / INPUT name=txtPersLasNam_#counterPerson# type=text value=#qPerson.SURNAME# class=custLName / INPUT name=hdnPersPBA_#counterPerson# type=hidden value=#qPerson.PK_CUSTOMERID# / input name=chkPersDelete_#counterPerson# id=hdnPersPBA_#counterPerson# type=checkbox value=true class=persChkDel / label for=chkPersDelete_#counterPerson# class=persChkDelLblDelete/label /cfoutput /div!-- %% generated %% -- /cfloop /cfsavecontent /cfif can anyone suggest what obvious thing have I missed here? thanks barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfsavecontent and custom tags
D'oh! yeah, that's what happens trying to get some standards going and making up naming conventions on the run. thanx G. b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] wierd caching problem
this has got me beat. I'm throwing files against a shared dev server, getting the occasional oops and trying to correct it. These are just simple test harnesses, hardly anything in them. what's happening is that I'm still getting the error message even after I fix the oops. something is still hanging on to the old code and throwing the error BUT the error stack trace is showing the correct (new/repaired) code. While trusted cache is turned off, I'm having to go into the CF admin and manually clear the template cache now just to see the changes. It's like trusted cache is still on, even though it's turned off. eg: Variable QRYGETCUSALL is undefined. The error occurred in X:\xxx_xxx\_scratch\idr\cloneforms.cfm: line 12 10 : 11 : 12 : cfdump var=#qryGetCusAllx# label=qryGetCusAll / that error message is old because I renamed the query but forgot to change the name in the dump the first time around. The stack trace is from the second run of the code that should not throw an error [1]. any suggestions what might be causing this, and suggest a fix? [1] CFQUERY NAME=qryGetCusAllx DATASOURCE=idr SELECT * FROMTidrT_Customer WHERE fk_DisputeID = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_integer value=118972 / ORDER BYDateCreated /CFQUERY cfdump var=#qryGetCusAllx# label=qryGetCusAll / --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: wierd caching problem
thanx for the replies, guys. At least it helps lift some fog... so far it happens on both CF8 and CF7 (I'm using 7) it happens occasionally it happens for no specific reason. oh goodie. needle in a hay stack time. I'm surviving by clearing the template cache for now (but heaven help anyone else working on the same box). It can't be an IIS caching issue, can it? While it throws the old error message, the new code is what's displayed - which implies that CF is controlling this all... I really dislike working on shared dev boxes ... it's just asking for trouble... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: wierd caching problem
On Apr 29, 12:29 pm, Joel Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are uploading using FTP, check that the timestamps are being updated. thanx Joel but it's local/network I think that's your needle right there. you may be close. I'm starting to think Dreamewaver 8 may be the culprit. I've got it set up as a site with local versions updating the testing (shared Dev) server on save (although I'm not hitting F12 to run it, rather refreshing the browser pointing to the dev server and I'm not explicitly using RDS). the annoying thing is I can see the corrected code in the stack trace - along with the error message which doesn't belong. and if DreamWeaver is the cause, then the question now is how it affects CF if the fix is to clear my template cache. I'll check the timestamps as well as go back to CFEclipse once I finish with the layout - see if either are part of the problem. thanx again b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: To maintain DB connections or not ... that is the question
this can involve a lot of factors ... ... first of all, when you say access is that for read-only data or are you writing back to these (up to) 20 db's too? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: adding a label/instructional text to a flashform (CF7)
Chris, that idea got shot down in flames when I suggested it an hour ago. it's an admin section, nobody really cares and it's just about to go live. to do so means that the people picker pop-up that puts the name there for a new record needs to be reworked and then the call to it in 4 other places needs to be rewritten and the whole lot to be tested again. I didn't write this thing, I just gotta finish it. I was just trying to be somewhat nice to the users, given the lack of intuititivity of the rest of the app (IMHO everyone should own a copy of Don't Make Me Think! http://safari.oreilly.com/0321344758) so I take it I should just give up now and stick post-it's saying this on the users machine? meh, no biggee.. thanx anyhoo. b On Apr 23, 4:46 pm, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like UserID and UserName are one in the same. Have 2 fields: FirstName and Surname and format it yourself. That way you'll get what you what and reduce the likelihood of errors. Then you don't need the instructions and the users don't have to think about what they're doing. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:11 PM, barry.b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF7, using FlashForms CFFORM FORMAT=flash ... CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserID VALUE=#UserNo# REQUIRED=yes MESSAGE=name must be in the format 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=true LABEL=User No.: WIDTH=100 MAXLENGTH=8 STYLE=background-color:##DD; CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserName VALUE=#FullName# REQUIRED=yes message=Please ensire the format is 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=false LABEL=Name: WIDTH=200 MAXLENGTH=80 STYLE=background-color:##FF; / I wanted to add a simple message to the right of the UserName textbox: font size=-2 style=color:red* Please ensure the format is 'Surname, FirstName'/font obviously straight HTML is ignored... suggestions? thanx barry.b -- Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney m: 0415 469 095www.flashdev.org.au Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney April meeting: Setting Fire To Your Community Date: Mon 28th April 6pm for 6:30 start Details and RSVP onhttp://apugs2008april.eventbrite.com/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: adding a label/instructional text to a flashform (CF7)
OK ... that's the styles covered ... but to add instructional text to the right of the flashform textbox? the label of the textbox is already being used. to be honest, I'll settle for a tooltip when it gets focus instead. Anything. I'm rapidly losing being fussy but surely free text can be added onto the flashform? is there no such thing as cflabel* Please ensure the format is 'Surname, FirstName'/cflabel ... I'm not asking for _too_ much, am I? On Apr 23, 5:09 pm, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, to put multiple things on one line: cfformgroup type=horizontal /cfformgroup On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Blair McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remember you can pass in styles, so: cfinput type=text name=xyz disabled=true style=borderStyle:none; disabledColor:##000;backgroundAlpha:0; Blair On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:55 PM, barry.b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, that idea got shot down in flames when I suggested it an hour ago. it's an admin section, nobody really cares and it's just about to go live. to do so means that the people picker pop-up that puts the name there for a new record needs to be reworked and then the call to it in 4 other places needs to be rewritten and the whole lot to be tested again. I didn't write this thing, I just gotta finish it. I was just trying to be somewhat nice to the users, given the lack of intuititivity of the rest of the app (IMHO everyone should own a copy of Don't Make Me Think!http://safari.oreilly.com/0321344758) so I take it I should just give up now and stick post-it's saying this on the users machine? meh, no biggee.. thanx anyhoo. b On Apr 23, 4:46 pm, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like UserID and UserName are one in the same. Have 2 fields: FirstName and Surname and format it yourself. That way you'll get what you what and reduce the likelihood of errors. Then you don't need the instructions and the users don't have to think about what they're doing. On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:11 PM, barry.b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF7, using FlashForms CFFORM FORMAT=flash ... CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserID VALUE=#UserNo# REQUIRED=yes MESSAGE=name must be in the format 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=true LABEL=User No.: WIDTH=100 MAXLENGTH=8 STYLE=background-color:##DD; CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserName VALUE=#FullName# REQUIRED=yes message=Please ensire the format is 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=false LABEL=Name: WIDTH=200 MAXLENGTH=80 STYLE=background-color:##FF; / I wanted to add a simple message to the right of the UserName textbox: font size=-2 style=color:red* Please ensure the format is 'Surname, FirstName'/font obviously straight HTML is ignored... suggestions? thanx barry.b -- Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney m: 0415 469 095www.flashdev.org.au Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney April meeting: Setting Fire To Your Community Date: Mon 28th April 6pm for 6:30 start Details and RSVP onhttp://apugs2008april.eventbrite.com/-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: adding a label/instructional text to a flashform (CF7)
many thanx Chris - that's getting me closer. the strange thing is that I'm already using type=horizontal and as soon as I add the CFFORMITEM / ... both text boxes and the label/ text go vertical. remove the label/text and the two text boxes are horizontal again. CFFORMGROUP TYPE=horizontal CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserID VALUE=#UserNo# REQUIRED=yes MESSAGE=name must be in the format 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=true LABEL=User No.: WIDTH=100 MAXLENGTH=8 STYLE=background-color:##DD; CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserName VALUE=#FullName# REQUIRED=yes message=Please ensire the format is 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=false LABEL=Name: WIDTH=200 MAXLENGTH=80 STYLE=background-color:##FF; / cfformitem TYPE=html * Please ensure the format is 'Surname, FirstName' /cfformitem /CFFORMGROUP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: adding a label/instructional text to a flashform (CF7)
@Chris that was close enough for a solution - it was the width, although not width running off the form. the cfformitem/ needed a width specified otherwise it thought it was miles long, wrapping the controls. same code as before, just adding width=400 fixed it. CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserID VALUE=#UserNo# REQUIRED=yes MESSAGE=name must be in the format 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=true LABEL=User No.: WIDTH=70 MAXLENGTH=8 STYLE=background-color:##DD; CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserName VALUE=#FullName# REQUIRED=yes message=Please ensire the format is 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=false LABEL=Name: WIDTH=200 MAXLENGTH=80 STYLE=background-color:##FF; / cfformitem width=400 type=html * Please ensure the format is 'Surname, FirstName' /cfformitem @Scott - it's a cockroach app: I just want it to go away and take it's pain with it ... now live and kicking as of 22 min ago... NEXT! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] the great Aussie brain drain (was: Who is working for whom in Sydney, and are they looking for new people?)
well it seems that, in the same fashion as Brisbane talent acts as a feeder into Sydney to fill positions (and Melbourne - g'day Ben.Y), Australia feeds into the U.S a little bird has told me [1] that Barnes isn't the only one to get a promotion and lured state-side. A long-time Adobe/MACR/Allaire -er will be soon making themselves at home in SanFran to help along another Adobe (and former MACR) server product I hold dear. Scott - sounds like you'll soon have another ex-pat drinking and sparing partner [2]. Keep this up and there'll be no one left in the country... [1] the little bird lives in the public domain and is easy to find. Don't give me grief, OK? [2] http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=dhl=engeocode=saddr=San+Francisco,+San+Francisco,+California,+United+Statesdaddr=redmond+washingtonmra=pemrcr=0sll=42.716099,-122.284698sspn=19.036047,36.914062safe=onie=UTF8ll=42.714732,-122.651367spn=19.036047,36.914063z=5 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: adding a label/instructional text to a flashform (CF7)
[gee I wrote that badly and not as polite as I try to be] it should have said: @Chris Thanks for the prod in the right direction - that was close enough for a solution. you were right - it was the width, although not width running off the form. I try not to be rude if I can help it... On Apr 24, 9:23 am, barry.b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @Chris that was close enough for a solution - it was the width, although not width running off the form. the cfformitem/ needed a width specified otherwise it thought it was miles long, wrapping the controls. same code as before, just adding width=400 fixed it. CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserID VALUE=#UserNo# REQUIRED=yes MESSAGE=name must be in the format 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=true LABEL=User No.: WIDTH=70 MAXLENGTH=8 STYLE=background-color:##DD; CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=UserName VALUE=#FullName# REQUIRED=yes message=Please ensire the format is 'Surname, FirstName' READONLY=false LABEL=Name: WIDTH=200 MAXLENGTH=80 STYLE=background-color:##FF; / cfformitem width=400 type=html * Please ensure the format is 'Surname, FirstName' /cfformitem @Scott - it's a cockroach app: I just want it to go away and take it's pain with it ... now live and kicking as of 22 min ago... NEXT! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Who is working for whom in Sydney, and are they looking for new people?
[at the risk of suggesting this thread might be better off on the cfjobs list instead of here ...] @Scott keep applying and market your resume like a product. yeah, that's good advice. New Improved candidate with extra VOOM! 30% less fat than last time. I must admit mine is pretty dull and boring ... funny thing is though, Scott, it was using your resume as a template... (talk about Pulp Fiction - just trying to cash in on the mesmorising capabilities it seemed to hold over employers ...) then again, only once in the last 5 jobs has been off a resume instead of word of mouth ... and two directly because of attending CFUG's ... sadly, it's still a case of who you know... and a good number of jobs out there never get advertised... (which is the trigger for this thread I guess) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: My Yearly WebDU Rant
Dale I'm not being flippant, bare with me I went to MAX 2006 and got a lot out of it. based on that experiance, and what's listed on the agenda, what do you want to get out of it? What would you consider a decent return on your investment? keeping in mind the networking potential, which in some quarters is worth a bit (but for others less so). also as an employer, aren't you required to spend x% on professional development** of your employees (inc yourself)? ** can't remember exactly. 1%? 2%? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Who is working for whom in Sydney, and are they looking for new people?
I'm in Brisbane so the jobs I know of will be no use to you... I'd post on CFJobs, but the activity is so slow there, responses from there is unlikely... I'm not so sure about that. I wonder how many cfaussie ppl are NOT on cfjobs as well? if ppl are long term employees then perhaps not, although all it takes is the boss to ask them to throw a job up and they sign up. I know that cfjobs is just for announcing positions vacant - I wonder if cfjobs would have more value to be the discussion about jobs going, working conditions, remuneration, recruiters and recruting, training and upskilling, qualifications and certification, etc (some of these topics have appeared here by default - I wonder if they might be best served on a revamped cfjobs list instead of this list?) talked to any recruiters about short-term contracts? sometimes you can get offered a permanant position because of this (see how well you work, get used to the place, etc). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Salaries inb CF jobs (was: Re: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?)
Whilst there may not be the positions available in Canberra at the moment, there very soon will be. You should see a big demand for CF developers here in the next 6-12 months. and this is why you've put the hard yards in getting the CFUG going in the ACT? (congrats, BTW) to create a support infrastructure and professional development hub for the expected numbers? smart move. this is the guild model I harp on about** - a center for professional development - quality control (in this case: discourse into best practices) - support for a career path from juniors to seniors. - some infulence of supply and demand of workers - some influence on remuneration ** based on the professional guilds of Medieval Europe: stonemasons, blacksmiths, bowyers, thatchers, etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: frustrated CF newbie
you may already know this but just in case: I'm thinking it might be worthwhile turning on the debugging on the server to specifically looking for Database Activity Select this check box to show the database activity for the SQL Query events and Stored Procedure events in the debugging output. to see if there's lots of little queries being called one after another or duplication of queries that could be refactored. and while you're there: Report Execution Times Highlight templates taking longer than the following (ms) XXX to show (in the debugging output in red) the pages that take too long. this may help pin-point where to look for problems. this is under Debugging Logging - Debugging Settings in the ColdFusion administrator hope this helps. Let us know how you're coming alone with tracking it down? good luck On Apr 14, 5:52 pm, M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a long time since I've dabbed with fusebox 3, but see if it has a production/development setting in the configurations like the fusebox 4+ etc --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] SQL datetime functions question (SQLServer)
for a report I'm needing to query on records before midnight of today (ie tonight) (SQLServer dateTime field, values stored as date time down to seconds) I can cheat and have this CF code in my WHERE clause dateadd(d, 1, LSParseDateTime(LSDateFormat(now(),dd/mm/))) but to be honest it's a hack (converting now() to a string which gives me 00.00.00 time and then converting back to a dateTime object then add a day to get to midnight tonight). can anyone suggest an SQL way of doing the same, perhaps using variations on getDate()? I can think of something nasty and convoluted with lots of datePart() and DateAdd() SQL functions to calculate and add/subtract hours/minutes/seconds from now but nothing clean thanks b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SQL datetime functions question (SQLServer)
cool. that's what I'm after: something not too ugly and convoluted. many thanx, Steve. b On Apr 15, 11:23 am, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about dateAdd(d, 1, CONVERT(DATETIME, YEAR(getDate()) + '-' + Month(getDate()) + '-' + Day(getDate( Because you are creating the date manually it automatically goes to midnight Steve -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of barry.b Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2008 8:56 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] SQL datetime functions question (SQLServer) for a report I'm needing to query on records before midnight of today (ie tonight) (SQLServer dateTime field, values stored as date time down to seconds) I can cheat and have this CF code in my WHERE clause dateadd(d, 1, LSParseDateTime(LSDateFormat(now(),dd/mm/))) but to be honest it's a hack (converting now() to a string which gives me 00.00.00 time and then converting back to a dateTime object then add a day to get to midnight tonight). can anyone suggest an SQL way of doing the same, perhaps using variations on getDate()? I can think of something nasty and convoluted with lots of datePart() and DateAdd() SQL functions to calculate and add/subtract hours/minutes/seconds from now but nothing clean thanks b- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Just in case anyone's feeling bored...
'ullo, 'ullo, 'ullo wot's goin' on 'ere then? care to explain further? This was exactly the problem. User was entering 000A into a numeric field, which should have caused a validation error to appear. so what did you do to get around it? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?
Barry:Would you say it's been happening for what? 5+ years now? I'd really like to respond to this chapter-and-verse at the moment but I'm really pushed for time... but I will say that (IMHO) Kay Smoljak is right on the money: The issue isn't a religious war. it's not good Vs evil or red team Vs blue - unless you're a shareholder of Adobe or Microsoft (hey Scott - shares in the company are part of your package, yes?) for everyone else, a particular technology is an enabler. That's all. Sure people have their preference - and I came kicking and screaming into CF late 2002 (CF6.0/Redsky/CF6.1), grudgingly used it then like it and stayed for the ride. Meanwhile I'd been using ASP (classic) and had been part of the ASP.NET public beta up to it's release where I deamed ASP.NET 1.0 a pile of rubbish and turned my back on it (it was the infinite post-backs as one reason that killed it for me although I really like some things in C# - it has what Java should) but it's noteworthy to see that when I was a CF-noob, old hands like Gary Menzel were active in the community - now Vaughn and the guys are migrating (have migrated?) to Java and are nowhere to be seen in the CF world. People move on, situations change. ColdFusion - he's just this guy, y'know? don't get me wrong, for mine, CF is the best darn bang-for-buck I can get. But if you asked a question of which web-based technology is best then you'll not get one single answer: as Sean Corfield often says it depends!. there's still a ton of dynamic web apps written in VBScript (ASP classic - depricated in 2003). Ford Vs Holden, anyone? and, leaning heavily on the capabilities of the little Flash Player, Adobe are starting to get together an interesting technology stack suitable for the digital media world (although the mess of LiveCycle with DS and ES, et al, needs to be sorted - too confusing for managers). It makes the ownership of CF by Adobe that (seems to start to) have good flow-on effects. so when it comes to job choices, platform can a modifier. ie: you take a dev job with a CF flavour. 1) enabler: the technology becomes the vehicle for people to do things better/faster, etc. 2) enabler: the technology is a joy to use so it gives job statisfaction doing things. 3) enabler: the technology has the platform longevity to keep you doing this for as long as you need it to. and I have no doubt that coding CF could give me both for many years to come. I support the technology to do my bit in it thriving into the future. I have no shares in Adobe so the long-term outcome for me is purely future employment. which is why I try and get people interested in CFUG's, etc - being active in ensuring the platform has logevity and providing job security by platform security, instead of being a passenger blown along with the winds... (as well as keeping skills up (1) which leads to better results (2)) but... if you were hunting for a job, would you follow the technology stack and hang the industry it's used in? Keep in mind the further you progress through the ranks, the less important specific technology becomes as you need to manage outcomes and what the technology has to do as business needs change/grow (as Gary Menzel realised - and planned for - a couple of years ago). or would you follow the path of the industry you know well and that you can apply your skills and domain knowledge into and then use the technology to enable outcomes? Idealy you'd seek one that would do both ... but as I'm finding, they're hard to come by. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?
I don't agree that it hasn't changed much, it has changed a great deal. and easy integration to Java code and .NET DLL's and MSExchange cfdocument cfreport cfpresentation cfmxml remoting webservices everyone knows this sure, but sometimes it gets forgotten that it's coming from/via just one vendor, not a bunch of ad-hoc libraries with iffy dependancies to worry about (or diff versions for that matter)**. One licence for the lot. year before last: I had an ASP.NET/C# app I wanted to migrate from using .NET 1.1 to 2.0 but I couldn't - it wasn't cost effective to change it and fix the breakages. ColdFusion has the best backwards compatability - per version - of a product I've ever used. Including Windows. On Apr 14, 12:32 pm, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dammit, I wasn't going to get involved in this thread past my blog post about it (http://kay.smoljak.com/index.php/opening-up-the-coldfusion-community/)... but now I have to speak up! On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Joel Cass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plus I really am starting to like the flexibility and features of other languages, eg. OO features of .net and java, CF has OO. CF is more OO than Java according to Sean Corfield's article in that latest FAQ-U (Vol II, Issue III, pg 7) because it has the onMissingMethod handler like SmallTalk and Ruby. the plethora of functionality in PHP (thanks to it being open source). CF has built in PDF, FTP, image handling, ExtJS grids/trees/etc, encryption, etc etc. What does PHP have that CF doesn't (apart from a whole stack of inconsistent and redundant functions)? Don't get me wrong, I like PHP and use it a lot, but CF is truly state of the art. I don't agree that it hasn't changed much, it has changed a great deal. -- Kay Smoljak business:www.cleverstarfish.com coldfusion: kay.smoljak.com personal: goatlady.wordpress.com | heapsbad.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?
Can I just second Gary's call to get out there in the community - it's YOUR technology, YOUR career. well, it took 100+ posts to come around to this being the best way to shut up the doom-sayers (inc recruters may have assumptions we all disagree with) but we got there in the end. here endith the lesson. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: recruters say CF on the way out? ... FFS! not FUD from them too?
OK Gary - I'll bite: how? everyone else shoosh (at least for a sec - please?) - I want to hear a fresh perspective, considering a bunch of us has thrashed this point many times... On Apr 9, 2:53 pm, Gary Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: delurk Problem with all these suggestions are they are preaching to the choir. Coldfusion needs to be seen to be a viable product OUTSIDE of the Coldfusion community. /delurk -- Gary Barber Freelance User Interaction Designer/ Information Architect Web: radharc.com.au blog: manwithnoblog.com Michael Dinowitz wrote: totally self serving suggestion You know, having a full set of Fusion Authority Quarterly Update on your shelf for people to see might have a positive effect. :) /totally self serving suggestion We've been thinking about trying to set up a fulfillment center in Australia to ship the books out to people locally rather than send them from the US. Alternatively, we could give the CFUGs a discount for a mass order for their members. One thing we've always said is that books on a shelf and/or in a store can do more for a language than many arguments.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] cfqueryparam 101 - lesson 2: setting NULL values
lesson 2: setting NULL values -- consider this INSERT statement within a CFC (just one field out of many). the db is SQLServer and the field a datetime**: CASE WHEN cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#FORM.IT_Request_Date# '' THEN CONVERT(datetime,cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#FORM.IT_Request_Date#,103) ELSE NULL END, this says: if the value is NOT '' (empty string) then convert the string to a datetime and insert else insert NULL regarding inserting/updating with NULL: there is an attribute within CFQUERYPARAM called null that, when is true, inserts a NULL into that field (regardless of the value in the value attribute) How do you automatically know when your data needs this NULL for the insert? check the length of the data for length = 0. cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_timestamp value=#FORM.IT_Request_Date# null=#YesNoFormat(not(len(FORM.IT_Request_Date)))# / what's all this mess? ... #YesNoFormat(not(len(FORM.IT_Request_Date)))# the YesNoFormat() (which is optional) will convert any 1/0 to true/ false (or Yes/No) len(FORM.IT_Request_Date) will return 0 if it's an empty string. But for us, 0 means true - give us a NULL instead. That's what the NOT() does -reverses the 0 to 1 and therefore length=0 to TRUE more info from someone else to confirm this: http://www.chapter31.com/2007/02/04/cfqueryparam-and-conditional-handling-of-nulls/ lesson 3: converting string dates to real database dates. -- Dates coming from forms are strings - not true datetime objects (at least not like the datetime objects expected by databases like SQLServer). Most of the time ColdFusion can happily convert it but sometimes an ommision either throws an error, inserts an impossible date or simply confuses AU format (dd/mm/) with US (mm/dd/). so... instead of converting strings with SQL to the 103 locale (Australia), let some ColdFusion functions and CFQUERYPARAM help you from this CONVERT(datetime,cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#FORM.IT_Request_Date#,103) to this: cfqueryparam cfsqltype=cf_sql_timestamp value=#LSParseDateTime(FORM.IT_Request_Date)# null=#YesNoFormat(not(len(FORM.IT_Request_Date)))# / many people have had problems with cf_sql_timestamp (SQLServer- datetime-length:8) but the trick is to use LSParseDateTime() which will make a reasonable attempt to turn anything that looks like a date string into a proper date object. No mention of time means a default to midnight (00.00.000) after LSParseDateTime() is used. in this case cf_sql_timestamp works quite happily with SQLServer- datetime-length:8 - provided that it recieves a datetime object (eg via LSParseDateTime() ), not a string representing one. No need for createODBCdate or splitting a dd/mm/ on the / and reassembling. the added bonus is that the LS locale-specific series of functions will use the CF server settings to know that 01/02/2008 means the first of Feb 2008 (dd/mm/) and not 2nd of Jan (mm/dd/ - US format) see: http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/functa36.htm = these tips - and many more - are available _free_ from your local ColdFusion user group. Open to all, no charge and catering provided.There's probably a CFUG near you. The Qld CF user group has a meeting tonight. Why not come along? more info here: http://qld.cfug.org.au/ = ** ignore FORM scope within a CFC - that's worth mentioning another time --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF 8 Update 1
the size is the dead give-away. if it's about 96Mb then it's just the updater. if it's 300+ Mb then it's the full deal. On Apr 9, 10:39 am, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless you hacked a Mac OSX install as per the notes. Which I know this is not the case. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 9015 8628 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 10:13 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF 8 Update 1 Mariano, There is an 'updater' and a full install. if you download the updater from the 'Updates' page, it will only update your CF install. Mark On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Mariano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a Dev server which has multiple CF 8/ CF 7 instance's, and I'm in need to update the CF 8 instance's. I have downloaded the CF8 update 1 from adobe but it looks like it will do a ful linstall of CF8 instead of updating the current isntall, can anyone confirm on whether update 1 does a fresh install or update's existing files ? as I'm not eager to break the current CF 8 install. Regards, Mariano -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.compoundtheory.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] REMIND: tomorrow night (TUES) - CFUG Brisbane - Real-time Data Management with LiveCycle Data Services
Hi all REMINDER: please RSVP here http://qld.cfug.org.au/index.cfm?event=showRSVPFormmeetingID=1260335F-0A9E-BF5B-4E8249BA267AC7BA official blurb (pretty much same as below): http://qld.cfug.org.au/index.cfm?event=showMeetingmeetingID=1260335F-0A9E-BF5B-4E8249BA267AC7BA cheers the QLD CFUG team hi all one of the big differences between web apps and client/server apps is the fact that, by the time the data hits the browser... it's stale. this is a nightmare if you have multiple users potentially editing the same record. There *are* strategies to cope, but Adobe has gone one better - real time data management. LiveCycle DataServices has the ability to see when someone is editing a record and broadcast messages to everyone else viewing it that it's being edited - and then push the updated values to them all when saved. it's a specialised need, sure, but it could become a critical piece as the complexity of web apps grows. of course this LiveCycle DataServices feature is no good to a bunch of ColdFusion people unless there was integration points into the CF servers which is where Nick Kwiatkowski from the Michigan Flex User's Group comes in (he's a CF'er too - don't be decieved). Nick is willing to wake up at 4:00am in the U.S to do a Breezo live for us to cover this topic. It'll be based loosely on his Oct 11th 2007 presentation Introduction to LiveCycle Data Services Part 2 he gave to his user group (look for the slides to give you some idea of what he's on about: http://theflexgroup.org/presentations.cfm- it's the part 2 ones) but being a live presso where you can ask questions this will be a whole lot better and it will be a bit different is some areas to make it more relivant to us. next tuesday, usual spot. 6:00 for a 6:30 start. RSVP here: http://qld.cfug.org.au/index.cfm?event=showRSVPFormmeetingID=1260335... cheers the QLD CFUG team. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Using cftransaction over multiple methods ...
IMHO the most important feature about transactions is failure and automatic rollback. I'm not sure threading and throwing a fail flag for the other thread to pick up would be practical. it's not the splitting of the threads, but the join to know what happened on the other side. In any case the start, commit/rollback for each would need to be on it's own thread (back to the single connection per cftransaction) but it's still an interesting thought... next time I've got some spare minutes to throw some code around... On Mar 20, 4:24 pm, Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could you use cfthread to create seperate transactions in the same request? On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Owen West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, I wasn't trying to be too harsh - I've been using CF for a number of years, and have discovered this about cftransaction before. I just figured (without looking) that now that we have access to a J2EE environment maybe Adobe were really nice to us CF developers and had this functionality built in. Having built a .NET app previously that did use distributed transactions, I know what a total pain it can be - kinda like threading, you can get yourself tied up into a really intricate knot! Maybe something for the CF9 wish list... As you said, most database systems allow you to create a linked server and just do it that way - doing so allows the data source to promote the transaction to a distributed transaction itself, so that will get around the whole issue. ;-) Owen West MCP MCAD MCSD Computer Programmer Applications Development Team Information Technology Telecommunications Hunter New England Health Ph: (02) 4921 4194 Fax: (02) 4921 4191 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] barry.b [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/03/2008 4:47 pm You can do this using java, so with CF being a J2EE app you should be able to use this kind of distributed trx functionality - if you cannot, it would be something of a glaring omission by Adobe. not necessarily. you can't do nested transactions in CF but you can in Java (and ADO.Net ... FWIW) CFTransaction is connection-based. It just works on one connection to the database at a time, holding the connection open to complete the transaction. this is why you can't break the transaction up with the start being in one cfinclude and the end in another (or different methods for that matter). what you CAN do (distributed transactions), is use SQL and link databases commands (or whatever - I forget) to query one database that then reaches into another... that works just fine. don't be too hard on CF in this, OK? I also think that nested transactions is a sorry ommision but I've seen the other side of the coin from the CF development team and it's a lot of hard work with lots of cavaets. I thought that, since CF *is* java and java has nested transactions, then it should be easy. I was wrong. It's probably safer to NOT say that CF *is* Java but CF is built on top of Java - there's enough subtle limitations to make the distinction and this is one of them. if you really need nested transactions or distributed transactions (across multiple data sources) then perhaps shell out to some java code that *can* do it? Perhaps a later version will have it? I'm very happy to be proven wrong on this. -- Zac Spitzer -http://zacster.blogspot.com(My Blog) +61 405 847 168- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 - Getting more than 1.4 GB in the heap?
further on this (beta) idea... http://www.webbschofield.com/index.cfm/2007/11/19/Interested-in-CF-on-64-bit-or-Leopard#c89DC0F2F-EFCD-E582-E4F3B665CD95AB1C On Nov 28, 8:11 am, Charlie Arehart \(lists account\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we did and had, we couldn't talk about it. :-) Beta experiences are under NDA. Sorry. But the beta is fairly open (and you just have to agree to its stipulations like this). Check out more on that blog entry. If you were hoping to hear from folks without installing it, well, I suppose you don't HAVE to install it once you're on the beta. They certainly prefer that, and may even expect it (haven't read the agreement that closely), but I'm sure others have joined the beta just to be able to watch the forums and be involved in any such discussions. /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Wiltshire Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:38 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF8 - Getting more than 1.4 GB in the heap? This is great news! - We've been looking forward to this, nice to see things are moving along... :) Has anyone in here tried the Beta yet? - If so, have you noticed any speed gains? Cheers, Chris Wiltshire. (Enigma) On Nov 26, 4:02 am, Charlie Arehart \(lists account\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, but just to be clear, since you've been referring to Windows in this thread, you won't be able to run CF on 64 bit Windows, if that may be what you're thinking. It's not supported, though it's coming in 8.1 (http://www.webbschofield.com/index.cfm/2007/11/19/Interested-in-CF-on... t-or-Leopard). /charlie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
