subject:"RE\: \[Chevelle\-list\] Headers"




Block huggers and shorties are the same thing and 
are considered a 1/2 header. These headers are designed for streetrods and will 
not clear the crossmembers on our cars. Sanderson  others make full-length 
and intermediate (3/4) headers. 
BH or shorty header collectors usually end right 
around the motor mount area. Intermediate collectors usually end right around 
the bottom of the oil pan or firewall. Full-length collectors obviously end up 
under the car,somewhere.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
brass."

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denny 
  Shewmake 
  
  
  These are shorties, ceramic coated on a 1971 SBC Malibu. The only 
  tight places are the control arm shaft bolts - 5/8" left rear, 3/4"' right 
  front. These are not block huggers like the Sandersons, but they look 
  great. .. Same number comes up for a '66 at Summit... 
  Sold my Hooker's to a guy that just bought a 73 Camaro.. I'm 
  happy...
  Denny
  

  
  From: "Michael Heiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
  The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
  HeadersDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:53:09 -0700
  

Denny, that was for a '66 right? I may be needing to do the same thing 
before too long. Have Super Comps on right now.

__ Mike Heiser1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 Chevelle Malibu | 1969 El CaminoChevelle 
 El Camino Club of Oregon, ACES, Team Chevelle


  
  From: "Denny Shewmake" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
  The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: 
  chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] 
  HeadersDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:11:09 -0400
  
  Pulled the Hooker Comp's (2451-1) off the 71 today and put 
  on Dougs (DOU-D304). Fit very well and went on fairly easy.. I 
  have ground clearance again!! Haven't noticed any real difference in 
  the sound of the flowmasters.
  
  Denny

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2006-04-21 Thread Denny Shewmake

I got a little different opinion on the block huggers Clint.. was looking at these..
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/cc10.htm
Denny


From: "Clint Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: "The Chevelle Mailing List" Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HeadersDate: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:21:53 -0500



Block huggers and shorties are the same thing and are considered a 1/2 header. These headers are designed for streetrods and will not clear the crossmembers on our cars. Sanderson  others make full-length and intermediate (3/4) headers. 
BH or shorty header collectors usually end right around the motor mount area. Intermediate collectors usually end right around the bottom of the oil pan or firewall. Full-length collectors obviously end up under the car,somewhere.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass."

- Original Message - 
From: Denny Shewmake 


These are shorties, ceramic coated on a 1971 SBC Malibu. The only tight places are the control arm shaft bolts - 5/8" left rear, 3/4"' right front. These are not block huggers like the Sandersons, but they look great. .. Same number comes up for a '66 at Summit... 
Sold my Hooker's to a guy that just bought a 73 Camaro.. I'm happy...
Denny



From: "Michael Heiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HeadersDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:53:09 -0700


Denny, that was for a '66 right? I may be needing to do the same thing before too long. Have Super Comps on right now.

__ Mike Heiser1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 Chevelle Malibu | 1969 El CaminoChevelle  El Camino Club of Oregon, ACES, Team Chevelle



From: "Denny Shewmake" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] HeadersDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:11:09 -0400

Pulled the Hooker Comp's (2451-1) off the 71 today and put on Dougs (DOU-D304). Fit very well and went on fairly easy.. I have ground clearance again!! Haven't noticed any real difference in the sound of the flowmasters.

Denny

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2006-04-21 Thread Dale









Whats the requirement for the
collector dump (CC10) at the firewall instead of straight down (CC12)? Automatic
vs. 4-speed? Both sets have the same measurements.





Dale McIntosh 
67 El Camino 
1967 ChevelleReference CD

http://www.chevellecd.com 
ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]
Headers







I got a
little different opinion on the block huggers Clint.. was looking at these..

http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/cc10.htm

Denny









From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:21:53 -0500



Block huggers and shorties are the same thing and are
considered a 1/2 header. These headers are designed for streetrods and will not
clear the crossmembers on our cars. Sanderson  others make full-length and
intermediate (3/4) headers. 





BH or shorty header collectors usually end right around the
motor mount area. Intermediate collectors usually end right around the bottom
of the oil pan or firewall. Full-length collectors obviously end up under the
car,somewhere.





Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino protourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/
You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a
pile of brass.







- Original Message - 





From: Denny Shewmake












These
are shorties, ceramic coated on a 1971 SBC Malibu. The only tight places
are the control arm shaft bolts - 5/8 left rear, 3/4' right
front. These are not block huggers like the Sandersons, but they look
great. .. Same number comes up for a '66 at Summit... 

Sold
my Hooker's to a guy that just bought a 73 Camaro.. I'm happy...

Denny







From: Michael Heiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:53:09 -0700





Denny,
that was for a '66 right? I may be needing to do the same thing before too
long. Have Super Comps on right now.



__


Mike Heiser
1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 Chevelle Malibu | 1969 El Camino
Chevelle  El Camino Club of Oregon,
ACES, Team Chevelle













From: Denny Shewmake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:11:09 -0400





Pulled the Hooker Comp's (2451-1) off the 71 today and put
on Dougs (DOU-D304). Fit very well and went on fairly easy.. I have
ground clearance again!! Haven't noticed any real difference in the sound
of the flowmasters.











Denny




















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I've built a few streetrods in my day,Denny,and 
here's what most of us in the industry call a blockhugger. (notwithstanding 
Sanderson's terminology) http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/cc1.htm 
You would think the header makers could get their terminology standardized. 
Funny thing is,when I called Sanderson to order some of the blockhuggers,the 
salesman said "Oh,what you want are some of our intermediates". Heck,I 
give up. grin
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
brass."

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denny 
  Shewmake 
  
  
  I got a little different opinion on the block huggers Clint.. was looking 
  at these..
  http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/cc10.htm
  Denny
  

From: "Clint Hooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: 
"The Chevelle Mailing List" Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: 
Re: [Chevelle-list] HeadersDate: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:21:53 
-0500



Block huggers and shorties are the same thing 
and are considered a 1/2 header. These headers are designed for streetrods 
and will not clear the crossmembers on our cars. Sanderson  others make 
full-length and intermediate (3/4) headers. 
BH or shorty header collectors usually end 
right around the motor mount area. Intermediate collectors usually end right 
around the bottom of the oil pan or firewall. Full-length collectors 
obviously end up under the car,somewhere.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino 
protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
brass."

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denny 
  Shewmake 
  
  
  These are shorties, ceramic coated on a 1971 SBC Malibu. The only 
  tight places are the control arm shaft bolts - 5/8" left rear, 3/4"' right 
  front. These are not block huggers like the Sandersons, but they 
  look great. .. Same number comes up for a '66 at Summit... 
  Sold my Hooker's to a guy that just bought a 73 Camaro.. I'm 
  happy...
  Denny
  

  
  From: "Michael Heiser" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing 
  List Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
  HeadersDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:53:09 -0700
  

Denny, that was for a '66 right? I may be needing to do the same 
thing before too long. Have Super Comps on right now.

__ Mike 
Heiser1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 Chevelle Malibu 
| 1969 El CaminoChevelle  El Camino Club of Oregon, ACES, Team 
Chevelle


  
  From: "Denny Shewmake" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
  The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: 
  chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] 
  HeadersDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:11:09 -0400
  
  Pulled the Hooker Comp's (2451-1) off the 71 today and 
  put on Dougs (DOU-D304). Fit very well and went on fairly 
  easy.. I have ground clearance again!! Haven't noticed any 
  real difference in the sound of the flowmasters.
  
  Denny

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Because the straight down collector won't clear the 
crossmember. Also,some of the intermediate collectors will not clear the Z-bar 
on manual trans cars. Sandersons will but IknowPatriots will not. 
I'm trying to remember why that was important because my 68 El Camino had a 
700R4 auto,not a manual trans. My 69 El Camino now has full-length headers but 
they tuck uppretty well. 
To give you an idea how low my car will go with the 
Air Ride,the header collectors are touching the ground when I let all the air 
out.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
brass."

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dale 
  
  
  Whats the 
  requirement for the collector dump (CC10) at the firewall instead of straight 
  down (CC12)? Automatic vs. 4-speed? Both sets have the same 
  measurements.
  
  
  Dale 
  McIntosh 
  67 El 
  Camino 1967 ChevelleReference 
  CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC Gold 
  #92 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denny ShewmakeSent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:34 
  PMTo: 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
  Headers
  
  
  I got a 
  little different opinion on the block huggers Clint.. was looking at 
  these..
  http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/cc10.htm
  Denny
  



From: "Clint Hooper" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HeadersDate: 
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:21:53 
-0500

Block huggers and shorties are 
the same thing and are considered a 1/2 header. These headers are designed 
for streetrods and will not clear the crossmembers on our cars. Sanderson 
 others make full-length and intermediate (3/4) headers. 


BH or shorty header collectors 
usually end right around the motor mount area. Intermediate collectors 
usually end right around the bottom of the oil pan or firewall. Full-length 
collectors obviously end up under the car,somewhere.

Clint HooperHH 
Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom 
baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
brass."

  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: Denny 
  Shewmake 
  
  
  
  These are shorties, ceramic 
  coated on a 1971 SBC Malibu. The only tight places are the control 
  arm shaft bolts - 5/8" left rear, 3/4"' right front. These are not 
  block huggers like the Sandersons, but they look great. .. Same number 
  comes up for a '66 at Summit... 
  
  Sold my Hooker's to a guy that 
  just bought a 73 Camaro.. I'm happy...
  Denny
  
  
  
  From: "Michael Heiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
  The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: 
  Re: [Chevelle-list] 
  HeadersDate: Thu, 20 
  Apr 2006 17:53:09 -0700
  

Denny, that was for a '66 
right? I may be needing to do the same thing before too long. Have Super 
Comps on right now.

__ 
Mike Heiser1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 
Chevelle Malibu | 1969 El CaminoChevelle 
 El Camino Club of Oregon, ACES, Team 
Chevelle


  
  
  
  From: 
  "Denny Shewmake" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: 
  [Chevelle-list] 
  HeadersDate: Thu, 
  20 Apr 2006 19:11:09 -0400
  
  
  Pulled the Hooker Comp's 
  (2451-1) off the 71 today and put on Dougs (DOU-D304). Fit very 
  well and went on fairly easy.. I have ground clearance 
  again!! Haven't noticed any real difference in the sound of the 
  flowmasters.
  
  
  
  Denny
  




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2006-04-21 Thread Kevin Riel




I just put Air Ride on a '68 and did the extra work 
to COMPLETELY tuck the bags up as high as possible. When all the air dumps 
out of the system, the car sits on a 1/2 inch rake, with only 1 1/4 inches of 
clearance from the skid plate in the front to the ground.

I used Hedman's Elite series header that they call 
a "shorty". They look similar to the Patriots, but use a thicker flange 
and one size larger guage for the tubing. They fit well, and there is 
plenty of clearance from the ground when all the air is out of the 
bags.


Kevin Riel


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Clint Hooper 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
Headers
  
  Because the straight down collector won't clear 
  the crossmember. Also,some of the intermediate collectors will not clear the 
  Z-bar on manual trans cars. Sandersons will but IknowPatriots will 
  not. I'm trying to remember why that was important because my 68 El Camino had 
  a 700R4 auto,not a manual trans. My 69 El Camino now has full-length headers 
  but they tuck uppretty well. 
  To give you an idea how low my car will go with 
  the Air Ride,the header collectors are touching the ground when I let all the 
  air out.
  Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 
  H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
  may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
  brass."
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Dale 


Whats the 
requirement for the collector dump (CC10) at the firewall instead of 
straight down (CC12)? Automatic vs. 4-speed? Both sets have the 
same measurements.


Dale 
McIntosh 
67 El 
Camino 1967 ChevelleReference 
CD http://www.chevellecd.com ACES #1709/TC 
Gold #92 





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denny ShewmakeSent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:34 
PMTo: 
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
Headers


I got a 
little different opinion on the block huggers Clint.. was looking at 
these..
http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/cc10.htm
Denny

  
  
  
  From: "Clint Hooper" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: "The Chevelle Mailing List" 
  Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] HeadersDate: 
  Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:21:53 
  -0500
  
  Block huggers and shorties are 
  the same thing and are considered a 1/2 header. These headers are designed 
  for streetrods and will not clear the crossmembers on our cars. Sanderson 
   others make full-length and intermediate (3/4) headers. 
  
  
  BH or shorty header collectors 
  usually end right around the motor mount area. Intermediate collectors 
  usually end right around the bottom of the oil pan or firewall. 
  Full-length collectors obviously end up under the 
  car,somewhere.
  
  Clint HooperHH 
  Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom 
  baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
  may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile 
  of brass."
  

- Original Message - 


From: Denny 
Shewmake 



These are shorties, ceramic 
coated on a 1971 SBC Malibu. The only tight places are the control 
arm shaft bolts - 5/8" left rear, 3/4"' right front. These are not 
block huggers like the Sandersons, but they look great. .. Same number 
comes up for a '66 at Summit... 

Sold my Hooker's to a guy 
that just bought a 73 Camaro.. I'm 
happy...
Denny



From: "Michael Heiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
The Chevelle Mailing List 
Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: 
Re: [Chevelle-list] 
HeadersDate: Thu, 20 
Apr 2006 17:53:09 -0700

  
  Denny, that was for a '66 
  right? I may be needing to do the same thing before too long. Have 
  Super Comps on right now.
  
  __ 
  Mike Heiser1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 
  Chevelle Malibu | 1969 El CaminoChevelle 
   El Camino Club of Oregon, ACES, Team 
  Chevelle
  
  



From: 
"Denny Shewmake" 
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Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: chevelle-list@

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers




Did you use their Cool Ride set-up,Kevin? I'm 
running their Shockwaves.
What trans does your 68 have in it,,auto or manual? 
SBC or BBC?
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
brass."

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Riel 
  
  I just put Air Ride on a '68 and did the extra 
  work to COMPLETELY tuck the bags up as high as possible. When all the 
  air dumps out of the system, the car sits on a 1/2 inch rake, with only 1 1/4 
  inches of clearance from the skid plate in the front to the 
  ground.
  
  I used Hedman's Elite series header that they 
  call a "shorty". They look similar to the Patriots, but use a thicker 
  flange and one size larger guage for the tubing. They fit well, and 
  there is plenty of clearance from the ground when all the air is out of the 
  bags.
  
  
  Kevin Riel

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2006-04-20 Thread Clint Hooper




That sounds good,Denny. Nice tohear 
aboutother options available.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm/"You 
may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of 
brass."

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denny 
  Shewmake 
  
  
  Pulled the Hooker Comp's (2451-1) off the 71 today and put on 
  Dougs (DOU-D304). Fit very well and went on fairly easy.. I have 
  ground clearance again!! Haven't noticed any real difference in the 
  sound of the flowmasters.
  
  Denny

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Heiser

Denny, that was for a '66 right? I may be needing to do the same thing before too long. Have Super Comps on right now.

__ Mike Heiser1966 Chevelle SS | 1969 Chevelle Malibu | 1969 El CaminoChevelle  El Camino Club of Oregon, ACES, Team Chevelle



From: "Denny Shewmake" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.netTo: chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] HeadersDate: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:11:09 -0400

Pulled the Hooker Comp's (2451-1) off the 71 today and put on Dougs (DOU-D304). Fit very well and went on fairly easy.. I have ground clearance again!! Haven't noticed any real difference in the sound of the flowmasters.

Denny Save time by starting a search from any Web page with the MSN Search Toolbar-FREE!

I used Sanderson QP-1000 cast iron headers on the
350 TPI motor in my 40 Ford streetrod. They looked good but I wasn't impressed
with their sealing at the head. If I remember correctly,they don't utilize all
the bolt holes. And yes,they are very pricey.
Just a suggestion but I would take a look at
Sanderson's intermediate headers. I installed a pair of them on my 68 El Camino
with BBC 700R4 and was very impressed with their quality,fit,and more
importantly their ground clearance. The collectors end right about the bottom of
the firewall and use an oem-style ball socket hookup. I'm planning a 385"
or 415" SBC in the near future and will be buying a pair for my 69 El
Camino.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

- Original Message -
From:
Denny
Shewmake

Just installed 2" dropped spindles on my '71 SBMalibu
andhave 1 1/4" rear lowering springs ordered. The car looks and
handles a lot better already. (also had the power steering pump and steering
box rebuilt).

But..the ceramic Hooker Super Comp flange is 3 1/2 inches from
the ground and have scrubbedit twice this week.
Really likethe QP1200 Sanderson Ceramic Silver Coated Cast Manifolds. http://www.sandersonheaders.com/pagesbypartnum/qp1200.htm
A search on the archives and tech sectionindicated they
were ok but pricey.A restored cruiser/occasional driver, no
racing.Plans call fora383 sometime in the
future.
Wanted to get some response on the cast mainfolds.

Thanks,
Denny

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2006-03-18 Thread Denny Shewmake


Clint;

Thanks for the response.. Your name is naturally all over the Sanderson 
search.. What size do you recommend on the intermediate.. considering the 
383 in the future..  looking at the CC1-5/8.


Denny

I used Sanderson QP-1000 cast iron headers on the 350 TPI motor in my 40 
Ford streetrod. They looked good but I wasn't impressed with their sealing 
at the head. If I remember correctly,they don't utilize all the bolt holes. 
And yes,they are very pricey.


Just a suggestion but I would take a look at Sanderson's intermediate 
headers. I installed a pair of them on my 68 El Camino with BBC  700R4 and 
was very impressed with their quality,fit,and more importantly their ground 
clearance. The collectors end right about the bottom of the firewall and use 
an oem-style ball  socket hookup. I'm planning a 385 or 415 SBC in the 
near future and will be buying a pair for my 69 El Camino.


Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2006-03-18 Thread Clint Hooper

1 5/8 will work ok but it would be nice if Sanderson would offer at least
one other tube size.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message - 
From: Denny Shewmake [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Clint;
 Thanks for the response.. Your name is naturally all over the Sanderson
 search.. What size do you recommend on the intermediate.. considering the
 383 in the future..  looking at the CC1-5/8.

 Denny

 I used Sanderson QP-1000 cast iron headers on the 350 TPI motor in my 40
 Ford streetrod. They looked good but I wasn't impressed with their sealing
 at the head. If I remember correctly,they don't utilize all the bolt
holes.
 And yes,they are very pricey.

 Just a suggestion but I would take a look at Sanderson's intermediate
 headers. I installed a pair of them on my 68 El Camino with BBC  700R4
and
 was very impressed with their quality,fit,and more importantly their
ground
 clearance. The collectors end right about the bottom of the firewall and
use
 an oem-style ball  socket hookup. I'm planning a 385 or 415 SBC in the
 near future and will be buying a pair for my 69 El Camino.

 Clint Hooper
 HH Custom,owner
 1969 El Camino ProTourer
 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers

2006-03-04 Thread Ron Zeppin

I'd read somewhere fairly recently that having equal length tubes is not 
as much of a benefit as originally touted...

It's a couple of HP...

R


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wondering about headers-
is it worth it to have a long header- as opposed to a block hugger 
type? and the scratch built ones fit nice but are so expensive.
and then there are the ones that claim equal tube length (such as some 
hookers but i have heard they are not as close to the same as they 
claim) - are these worth the extra money? do they really make a diffrence?
i know in drag racing every little bit helps- but how about for a 
mostly street-some drag?

thanks!!
Harlan

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-16 Thread HarKemAsso

In a message dated 12/15/2005 3:42:41 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


He is at www.jbp-pontiac.com. Sorry for the slow responce, I was out of town.
Mike


Thats ok, thanks for the link!!!

Harlan

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-15 Thread tigergutt

Mark,

you should look into stainless works as well, I bought their weldup kit, nice 
stuff!

André

 Tom,
 I contacted Doug's and Pertronix did purchase them. Jegs is handling their 
 headers.
 I contacted Jegs and they do have Doug's headers, but they do not list the set
 specifically for the 64-67 chevelles, #D322. They are checking to see if they 
 are
 available. Thanks to everyone who responded.

 Mark

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 I was looking for Doug's headers on the web the other day, and the web
 site said they were sold to Pertronix. At the Pertronix site, there was
 very little information that I could find on Doug's headers. However, on
 the Pypes site, they seem to offer Doug's headers, and have an on-line
 catalog.

 Where do you get Doug's headers these days?

 Tom Tomlinson


 Mike wrote:

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-15 Thread Mike Holleman




He is at www.jbp-pontiac.com. Sorry for the slow 
responce, I was out of town.
Mike

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-14 Thread Tom Tomlinson

I was looking for Doug's headers on the web the other day, and the web 
site said they were sold to Pertronix. At the Pertronix site, there was 
very little information that I could find on Doug's headers. However, on 
the Pypes site, they seem to offer Doug's headers, and have an on-line 
catalog.


Where do you get Doug's headers these days?

Tom Tomlinson


Mike wrote:


I also replaced my Hooker Headers with Doug's on my 65 GTO and am much
happier with them - mainly for the additional 1-2 of ground clearance.  I
used to bottom out every where I went with the Hookers - not so with Doug's.
Highly recommended.

 


Mike
   




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Mark, I just replaced the Hooker super comps on my Tempest with a set from 
Doug's. There is no comparison. The Doug's use a much heavier flange, 3/8. 
The fit is much better. Almost two inches more ground clearance. I am way 
more happy with the Doug's.

Mike Holleman
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Evening, I am looking for some feedback. Has anyone used Doug's 
Headers? I
have a 66 396 and am still looking for headers. Most header applications 
cover 64 - 72. Doug's lists a set specifically for 64-67. Common sense 
would make you think that these would have the best chance of fitting 
correctly. Comments.


thanks
Mark


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-14 Thread Mike Holleman

Tom, Mine came from Jim Butler Racing. He is Pontiac only. You may end up 
paying a little more than Hooker prices, but IMO Doug's are well worth the 
extra.

Mike
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I was looking for Doug's headers on the web the other day, and the web site 
said they were sold to Pertronix. At the Pertronix site, there was very 
little information that I could find on Doug's headers. However, on the 
Pypes site, they seem to offer Doug's headers, and have an on-line catalog.

Where do you get Doug's headers these days?

Tom Tomlinson

Mike wrote:

I also replaced my Hooker Headers with Doug's on my 65 GTO and am much
happier with them - mainly for the additional 1-2 of ground clearance.  I
used to bottom out every where I went with the Hookers - not so with 
Doug's.

Highly recommended.

Mike

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Mark, I just replaced the Hooker super comps on my Tempest with a set from 
Doug's. There is no comparison. The Doug's use a much heavier flange, 
3/8. The fit is much better. Almost two inches more ground clearance. I 
am way more happy with the Doug's.

Mike Holleman
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Evening, I am looking for some feedback. Has anyone used Doug's Headers? 
I
have a 66 396 and am still looking for headers. Most header applications 
cover 64 - 72. Doug's lists a set specifically for 64-67. Common sense 
would make you think that these would have the best chance of fitting 
correctly. Comments.

thanks
Mark

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-14 Thread HarKemAsso

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Jim Butler Racing. He is Pontiac only

do you have any contact info for them??


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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-14 Thread Larry Williams

Does Doug's Header fit on heads using ARP bolts *without *grinding the 
head flanges?  I had to grand my Hooker headers.


Larry Williams


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Tom,
I contacted Doug's and Pertronix did purchase them. Jegs is handling 
their headers. I contacted Jegs and they do have Doug's headers, but 
they do not list the set specifically for the 64-67 chevelles, #D322. 
They are checking to see if they are available. Thanks to everyone who 
responded.
 
Mark
 
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I was looking for Doug's headers on the web the other day, and the web 
site said they were sold to Pertronix. At the Pertronix site, there was 
very little information that I could find on Doug's headers. However, on 
the Pypes site, they seem to offer Doug's headers, and have an on-line 
catalog.


Where do you get Doug's headers these days?

Tom Tomlinson


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RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-13 Thread Brad Waller

I have no actual experience, but a custom fit for '64-'72 should be better
as there are differences.  I think Doug's is what used to be Doug Thorley,
but I'm not sure.  Thorley's headers had a good reputation.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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 Evening, I am looking for some feedback. Has anyone used 
 Doug's Headers? I have a 66 396 and am still looking for 
 headers. Most header applications cover 64 - 72. Doug's lists 
 a set specifically for 64-67. Common sense would make you 
 think that these would have the best chance of fitting 
 correctly. Comments.
 
 thanks
 Mark

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-13 Thread Bad66Chevelle454




I dont have Dougs on my Chevelle, 
but I have them on my 67 Nova with a SBC, and they fit excellent! Look great, 
sound great, etc. Couldn't be happier with them. 

-Tim 
King-

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-13 Thread Mike Holleman

Mark, I just replaced the Hooker super comps on my Tempest with a set from 
Doug's. There is no comparison. The Doug's use a much heavier flange, 3/8. 
The fit is much better. Almost two inches more ground clearance. I am way 
more happy with the Doug's.

Mike Holleman
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Evening, I am looking for some feedback. Has anyone used Doug's Headers? I 
have a 66 396 and am still looking for headers. Most header applications 
cover 64 - 72. Doug's lists a set specifically for 64-67. Common sense 
would make you think that these would have the best chance of fitting 
correctly. Comments.

thanks
Mark

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RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-12-13 Thread Mike

I also replaced my Hooker Headers with Doug's on my 65 GTO and am much
happier with them - mainly for the additional 1-2 of ground clearance.  I
used to bottom out every where I went with the Hookers - not so with Doug's.
Highly recommended.

  Mike


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Mark, I just replaced the Hooker super comps on my Tempest with a set from 
Doug's. There is no comparison. The Doug's use a much heavier flange, 3/8. 
The fit is much better. Almost two inches more ground clearance. I am way 
more happy with the Doug's.
Mike Holleman
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 Evening, I am looking for some feedback. Has anyone used Doug's 
 Headers? I
 have a 66 396 and am still looking for headers. Most header applications 
 cover 64 - 72. Doug's lists a set specifically for 64-67. Common sense 
 would make you think that these would have the best chance of fitting 
 correctly. Comments.

 thanks
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RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-30 Thread Herb Lumpp

Hi Ron,

I used to have Hooker Super Comps on my 66 and the passenger side hung
pretty low.  In fact, I hit the passenger side tubes on the ground quite a
few times so be careful if your new springs are going to lower the car.

Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm


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I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

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I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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2005-04-30 Thread Dan

I'm in the same boat. I want to buy ceramic coated headers for my 66 chevelle small block. I was looking at the hedman elite series, but they have a foot note that says they wont fit with saginaw close ratio steering box.(i'm not sure what power steer box I have) duh?



Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Ron,I used to have Hooker Super Comps on my 66 and the passenger side hungpretty low. In fact, I hit the passenger side tubes on the ground quite afew times so be careful if your new springs are going to lower the car.Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ron SparksSent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 11:49 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] HeadersI've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'mprobably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going totake some careful measurements-Original Message-From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan MascheckSent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:30 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] HeadersI'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...DynamaxI will get ceramic coated.Dan-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 4:24 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 21, Issue 50Send Chevelle-list mailing list submissions toChevelle-list@chevelles.netTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visithttp://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.netor, via email, send a message with subject
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RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-30 Thread Mumper, Douglas




I am putting hooker super comp on a SB 400 in a 1966 
chevelle!! Anyone have troble with them fitting???

Doug Mumper
Michigan


From: Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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I'm in the same boat. I want to buy ceramic coated headers for my 66 
chevelle small block. I was looking at the hedman elite series, but they have a 
foot note that says they wont fit with saginaw close ratio steering box.(i'm not 
sure what power steer box I have) duh?



Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi 
  Ron,I used to have Hooker Super Comps on my 66 and the passenger side 
  hungpretty low. In fact, I hit the passenger side tubes on the ground 
  quite afew times so be careful if your new springs are going to lower the 
  car.Herb 
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  got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.I do 
  think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so 
  I'mprobably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going 
  totake some careful measurements-Original 
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  with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...DynamaxI 
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RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-26 Thread Ron Sparks

It rubbed the steering on  my '66. Not what I wanted to do, especially after
all the cost and then efforts to get them in without scratching anything.

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What year are you running your dimpled headers on? I have coated Hookers on
my '69 396 with no dimples. The driver's side was  no box of chocolates to
install, I can tell you that. The only clearance issue I had was that the
brake lines needed to be moved a 1/4 or so on the drivers side.

Rich
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 About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not 
 like
 I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy 
 that
 dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
 will hold up fine, but time will tell.

 Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for 
 steering
 clearance.

 Ron

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 Ron,

 How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
 when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
 conditions...but he told me up front!!

   Dan

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 I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with 
 them.
 I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
 probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
 take some careful measurements

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 I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
 454 with 8-71 blower. What do you 
 recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
 I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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2005-04-24 Thread Richard M. Pruett

What year are you running your dimpled headers on? I have coated Hookers on 
my '69 396 with no dimples. The driver's side was  no box of chocolates to 
install, I can tell you that. The only clearance issue I had was that the 
brake lines needed to be moved a 1/4 or so on the drivers side.

Rich
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About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not 
like
I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy 
that
dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
will hold up fine, but time will tell.

Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for 
steering
clearance.

Ron
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Ron,
How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
conditions...but he told me up front!!
  Dan
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I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with 
them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

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I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you 
recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

   Dan
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2005-04-24 Thread Dan Mascheck

I called Jet Hot about sand blasting and coating. The price was half the
cost of a new set of ceramics from Hooker. If I could find someone that
would coat my old ones in the Houston area..I might try it! 

Houston is awful large and with all the refineries we have you would surely
think someone ceramic coats in the area!

  Dan

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About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not like
I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy that
dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
will hold up fine, but time will tell.

Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for steering
clearance.


Ron 

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Ron,

How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
conditions...but he told me up front!!

   Dan

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From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:49 AM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
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I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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2005-04-24 Thread Z16CHEVELLEGUY




Houston 
Texas Yellow Pages. COATING  HOT DIPPING Listings 
You may be able to find something here. I did a Google search for ceramic 
coatings Houston Texas.
Larry 
(Z)

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-24 Thread Chuck Speake

I went a different route for my headers with the recommendation from my
cousin who had used them on 383 647hp with great results.

Sanderson Headers.  I had clearance problems with the header that were on
the car when I bought it.  They were too close to the steering column and
the frame causing rubbing and contact during driving not to mention a
nightmare to remove and install them.  With the Sanderson I definitely
noticed a performance difference the first time I drove the car, and I now
have easy access to the plugs and all kinds of room between the steering
column and the frame.  One thing they provide is very easy removal and
installation.  I bought them coated and they look great.  They are very
expensive though maybe two to three time that of Hooker.
 
Chuck 
70 Chevelle Malibu
Glen Ellyn, IL.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:39 PM
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About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not like
I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy that
dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
will hold up fine, but time will tell.

Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for steering
clearance.


Ron 

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Ron,

How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
conditions...but he told me up front!!

   Dan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:49 AM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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2005-04-24 Thread Tom Tomlinson

I also put Sanderson's (cast) on my 350 Malibu, and am very happy with them.
Are you talking about the cast headers or the shorty headers they make for
the small block?

Tom Tomlinson
'71 Malibu

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Speake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 I went a different route for my headers with the recommendation from my
 cousin who had used them on 383 647hp with great results.

 Sanderson Headers.  I had clearance problems with the header that were on
 the car when I bought it.  They were too close to the steering column and
 the frame causing rubbing and contact during driving not to mention a
 nightmare to remove and install them.  With the Sanderson I definitely
 noticed a performance difference the first time I drove the car, and I now
 have easy access to the plugs and all kinds of room between the steering
 column and the frame.  One thing they provide is very easy removal and
 installation.  I bought them coated and they look great.  They are very
 expensive though maybe two to three time that of Hooker.

 Chuck
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:39 PM
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not
like
 I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy
that
 dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
 will hold up fine, but time will tell.

 Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for
steering
 clearance.

 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Mascheck
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:36 PM
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 Ron,

 How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
 when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
 conditions...but he told me up front!!

Dan

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:49 AM
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with
them.
 I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
 probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
 take some careful measurements

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Mascheck
 Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:30 PM
 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
 454 with 8-71 blower. What do you
recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
 I will get ceramic coated.

 Dan

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2005-04-24 Thread Dan Mascheck









Ill give it a try Monday, but looking at the list returned. It
didnt look promising! But.Thanks for your help!! It might just
have a clue or two!!(GRIN)











From:
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Houston Texas
Yellow Pages. COATING  HOT DIPPING Listings 





You
may be able to find something here. I did a Google search for ceramic coatings Houston Texas.





Larry
(Z)

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-24 Thread Herb Lumpp




Hi 
Brad,

I 
tried Ed too, but he's stuck in the past and refuses to update his header jigs 
to work with modern aftermarket heads. On top of that, he hates all the 
car magazines and spends more time telling you that than giving you helpful 
info. Try Stahl headers, they were willing to work with my car's 
particulars and are genuinely nice people. The guy that actually builds 
the headers (Greg) is a really good guy and obviously very 
talented.

Try 
this link... http://www.stahlheaders.com/


Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brad 
  WallerSent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:34 PMTo: 'The 
  Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 
  Headers
  I've talked to Ed and he is too busy. I even 
  paid for his analysis/design service to see if that would work but he took a 
  month and ended up telling me he is too busy to make them.
  
  Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 
  BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes| 
  275/40/17 Kumho MX
  


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:10 
PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
[Chevelle-list] Headers
In a message dated 4/22/2005 11:51:40 AM 
Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If anyone knows a shop in Southern California that still makes 
  custom headers, let me know.Headers By Ed will do them for you i 
believe, even though it is in MN

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-24 Thread Chuck Speake

I got the coated cast.  

Chuck Speake
70 Chevelle Malibu
Glen Ellyn, IL


-Original Message-
From: Tom Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:46 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I also put Sanderson's (cast) on my 350 Malibu, and am very happy with them.
Are you talking about the cast headers or the shorty headers they make for
the small block?

Tom Tomlinson
'71 Malibu

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Speake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers


 I went a different route for my headers with the recommendation from my
 cousin who had used them on 383 647hp with great results.

 Sanderson Headers.  I had clearance problems with the header that were on
 the car when I bought it.  They were too close to the steering column and
 the frame causing rubbing and contact during driving not to mention a
 nightmare to remove and install them.  With the Sanderson I definitely
 noticed a performance difference the first time I drove the car, and I now
 have easy access to the plugs and all kinds of room between the steering
 column and the frame.  One thing they provide is very easy removal and
 installation.  I bought them coated and they look great.  They are very
 expensive though maybe two to three time that of Hooker.

 Chuck
 70 Chevelle Malibu
 Glen Ellyn, IL.

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:39 PM
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not
like
 I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy
that
 dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
 will hold up fine, but time will tell.

 Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for
steering
 clearance.


 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Mascheck
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:36 PM
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 Ron,

 How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
 when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
 conditions...but he told me up front!!

Dan

 -Original Message-
 From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:49 AM
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with
them.
 I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
 probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
 take some careful measurements

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Mascheck
 Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:30 PM
 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers

 I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
 454 with 8-71 blower. What do you
recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
 I will get ceramic coated.

 Dan

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2005-04-24 Thread Brad Waller




Herb,

Jere and I spoke on the phone and emailed a number of 
times. He can't do headers for my combination of Mid Year Corvette, small 
block, raised ports, angle plugs, and side pipes. Primary tubes 
would be too short, and his headers only fit the C3. He did say that he 
would consider "fixing" a set of Hedman's to work with my 
heads.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 
BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes| 
275/40/17 Kumho MX

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb 
  LumppSent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:05 PMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 
  Headers
  
  Hi 
  Brad,
  
  I 
  tried Ed too, but he's stuck in the past and refuses to update his header jigs 
  to work with modern aftermarket heads. On top of that, he hates all the 
  car magazines and spends more time telling you that than giving you helpful 
  info. Try Stahl headers, they were willing to work with my car's 
  particulars and are genuinely nice people. The guy that actually builds 
  the headers (Greg) is a really good guy and obviously very 
  talented.
  
  Try 
  this link... http://www.stahlheaders.com/
  
  
  Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brad 
WallerSent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:34 PMTo: 'The 
Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 
    Headers
I've talked to Ed and he is too busy. I even 
paid for his analysis/design service to see if that would work but he took a 
month and ended up telling me he is too busy to make 
them.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 
245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body 
Brakes| 275/40/17 Kumho MX

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:10 
  PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-list] Headers
  In a message dated 4/22/2005 11:51:40 AM 
  Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  If anyone knows a shop in Southern California that still 
makes custom headers, let me know.Headers By Ed will do them for you i believe, 
  even though it is in MN

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-23 Thread Clint Hooper




Lemons builds some serious stuff. The shop that did 
some of the chassis work on my 69,Joe Wilson Race Cars,uses Lemons headers on 
quite a few of their customer cars. Joe spoke very highly of them. Prices start 
around $1,000 and go up but their quality is as good as I've ever 
seen.
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Larry 
  Shouse 
  
  Clint,
  Do you personally know anyone (you?) using these 
  headers? What kind of gains do you think is possible?
  Thanks,
  Larry Shouse
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Clint Hooper 


Try these guys in Paso Robles,Brad. I'm sure 
they can build what you need. http://www.lemonsheaders.com/ 
(805) 239-8998
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino 
ProTourer2001 H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brad Waller 

  
  I've talked to Ed and he is too busy. I 
  even paid for his analysis/design service to see if that would work but he 
  took a month and ended up telling me he is too busy to make 
  them.
  
  Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 
  245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body 
  Brakes| 275/40/17 Kumho 
MX

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-23 Thread HarKemAsso

In a message dated 4/22/2005 8:19:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I was surprised when the rep told me the
 ceramic headers can still show rust. 

I have seen ceramic coated parts rust away- namely on some tailpipes on a show car- they had all kinds of holes in them, just like a normal steel pipe would have had, I think it starts from the inside. The claim that they are coated inside and out is a myth, I have been told by some race car builders and a person who does the coatings for a living.

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-23 Thread Ron Sparks

I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-23 Thread Dan Mascheck

Ron,

How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
conditions...but he told me up front!!

   Dan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:49 AM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Mascheck
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 6:30 PM
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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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2005-04-23 Thread Ron Sparks

About two years, so that probably not long enough to tell anytihng (not like
I run around in a weather much with it).. But I bought them from a guy that
dig the ceramic coating, so Hooker did not coat them. They look like they
will hold up fine, but time will tell.

Oh, one thing on fit for my car - I also had to dimple one tube for steering
clearance.


Ron 

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Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 2:36 PM
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Ron,

How long have you had the ceramic Hookers? Any rust yet?? It surprised me
when the Hooker Rep told they would rust! I'm sure under very adverse
conditions...but he told me up front!!

   Dan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Sparks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:49 AM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

I've got coated Hookers on my 454 in the '66 and am fairly happy with them.
I do think they hang a little low, but I have never dragged them, so I'm
probably ok. Putting some Hotchkis springs up front today and I'm going to
take some careful measurements

-Original Message-
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I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
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I will get ceramic coated.

Dan

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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread Rick Schaefer

   I had my 4 or 5 year old headers ceramic coated in 1997.   I have
not yet noticed any rust or other corrrosion.  You might have to buy
non-coated headers  have them done by a shop that specializes in the
coating.

On 4/22/05, Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I called Holley Hooker todayI was surprised when the rep told me the
 ceramic headers can still show rust. He said the ceramic coating is very
 porous. I know the coating helps heat dissipation, but I also thought it
 helped the headers resist rust. I have a set of Super Comps, but they are
 the old style with plenty of rust!. I know there is SS, but they discolor so
 bad over time! Oh well!
 
  
 
 Has anyone used the alternator, Power steering and AC brackets?
 
  
 
   Dan
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 7:53 PM
 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers
 
  
 
 
 In a message dated 4/21/2005 8:30:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
 454 with 8-71 blower. What do you
 recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
 I will get ceramic coated.
 
 Dan
 
 
 I would use Jet hot coated Hookers.
 
 
  
 
 
 Tom


-- 
Rick Schaefer
72 TPI El Camino

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread Brad Waller





Good luck 
finding someone to make custom headers. I can't find anyone within 150 
miles that makes custom headers anymore. If you live in a lower rent area, 
maybe you can find them, but in metro areas the shop can make more money doing 
catalytic converters and standard installs all day than taking a few days to 
make something custom.
If anyone 
knows a shop in Southern California that still makes custom headers, let me 
know.
Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 
245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body 
Brakes| 275/40/17 Kumho MX

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 9:18 
  AMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-list] Headers
  In a message 
  dated 4/21/2005 7:31:01 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm 
running a454 with 8-71 blower. What do you 
recommend...HedmanHooker...DynamaxI will get ceramic 
  coated.i strongly suggest custom made headers, i 
  have had a few sets built and they are second to none, the plugs are easy to 
  get out and i think the tubes are closer to being "same length" also "Headers 
  By Ed" are nice units. my friend owns a muffler shop and someone brought in a 
  header they had "dimpled" to get around steering- don't know if i beleive it 
  but the place he was having his engine done would not warranty his engine with 
  that "dimple" in it (which was not very large) due to they claimed it was a 
  restriction. -- so you would also avoid this problem.Harlan

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread Brad Waller




I've talked to Ed and he is too busy. I even paid 
for his analysis/design service to see if that would work but he took a month 
and ended up telling me he is too busy to make them.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 
BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes| 
275/40/17 Kumho MX

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 12:10 
  PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-list] Headers
  In a message dated 4/22/2005 11:51:40 AM 
  Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  If anyone knows a shop in Southern California that still makes 
custom headers, let me know.Headers By Ed will do them for you i believe, even 
  though it is in MN

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread HarKemAsso

In a message dated 4/21/2005 7:31:01 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.


i strongly suggest custom made headers, i have had a few sets built and they are second to none, the plugs are easy to get out and i think the tubes are closer to being "same length" also "Headers By Ed" are nice units. my friend owns a muffler shop and someone brought in a header they had "dimpled" to get around steering- don't know if i beleive it but the place he was having his engine done would not warranty his engine with that "dimple" in it (which was not very large) due to they claimed it was a restriction. -- so you would also avoid this problem.
Harlan

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread Dan Mascheck









I called Holley Hooker todayI was surprised when the rep told me
the ceramic headers can still show rust. He said the ceramic coating is very
porous. I know the coating helps heat dissipation, but I also thought it helped
the headers resist rust. I have a set of Super Comps, but they are the old
style with plenty of rust!. I know there is SS, but they discolor so bad over
time! Oh well!



Has anyone used the alternator, Power steering and AC brackets?



 Dan















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Headers









In a message dated 4/21/2005 8:30:57 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS.
I'm running a
454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...Dynamax
I will get ceramic coated.

  Dan







I would use Jet hot coated Hookers.











Tom

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread Brad Waller




Yep, they are the closest place to me that I have found, and they are 220 
miles away!

Brad

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint 
  HooperSent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:10 PMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
  Headers
  
  Try these guys in Paso Robles,Brad. I'm sure they 
  can build what you need. http://www.lemonsheaders.com/ 
  (805) 239-8998
  Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
  H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Brad Waller 

I've talked to Ed and he is too busy. I even 
paid for his analysis/design service to see if that would work but he took a 
month and ended up telling me he is too busy to make 
them.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 
245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body 
Brakes| 275/40/17 Kumho 
  MX

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread HarKemAsso

In a message dated 4/22/2005 11:51:40 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


If anyone knows a shop in Southern California that still makes custom headers, let me know.

Headers By Ed will do them for you i believe, even though it is in MN

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread Larry Shouse




Clint,

Do you personally know anyone (you?) using these 
headers? What kind of gains do you think is possible?

Thanks,
Larry Shouse

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  From: 
  Clint Hooper 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:10 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 
Headers
  
  Try these guys in Paso Robles,Brad. I'm sure they 
  can build what you need. http://www.lemonsheaders.com/ 
  (805) 239-8998
  Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
  H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Brad Waller 

I've talked to Ed and he is too busy. I even 
paid for his analysis/design service to see if that would work but he took a 
month and ended up telling me he is too busy to make 
them.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 
245/45/16 BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body 
Brakes| 275/40/17 Kumho 
  MX

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-22 Thread Clint Hooper




Try these guys in Paso Robles,Brad. I'm sure they 
can build what you need. http://www.lemonsheaders.com/ 
(805) 239-8998
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001 
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brad Waller 
  
  I've talked to Ed and he is too busy. I even 
  paid for his analysis/design service to see if that would work but he took a 
  month and ended up telling me he is too busy to make them.
  
  Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 
  BFG R1'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes| 
  275/40/17 Kumho MX

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2005-04-21 Thread MICRLASER




In a message dated 4/21/2005 8:30:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm getting ready to buy new headers for my 72 Chevelle SS. I'm running a454 with 8-71 blower. What do you recommend...HedmanHooker...DynamaxI will get ceramic coated.  Dan
I would use Jet hot coated Hookers.

Tom

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers suggestions

2005-01-17 Thread 65ss.com




I have not had a set of headers that I did not HAVE 
to ding. I have a '65 with a 502 in it, and 2" primaries and had to 
persuade (with a hammer, and piece of wood) them in. Buy the uncoated, 
beat em up a bit then have them coated. You do not lose performance by 
dinging them up. It generally makes the tubes flatter, but does not 
actually decrease the inside diameter. If you were to drastically bend 
them, or kink them, only then would you increase the inside diameter of the 
pipe. 

So, basically, no matter what you buy, you will 
probably end up hammering them a bit. On a side note, I also put in 3" 
exhaust from pypesperformance.com and it is absolutely awesome. I bought 
the Pypes mufflers, and the X crossover with cutouts. Has a real good 
throaty sound through the mufflers, but fairly quiet. Not obnoxious like a 
big block through Flowmasters. I wanted that 'sleeper' sound with good 
performance, and managed the both..

Later
Charles
www.65ss.com


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  Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 4:44 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers 
  suggestions
  
  I havea 66 with the stock 396, 325 hp, 4 sp. I would like to 
  install a set of headers and am looking for what fits and works well and what 
  doesn't. Iassume theHooker competitionwill fit, but I'd hate 
  to have to "ding" them to get clearance. Also they are 2" diameter, are they 
  too big for my application? I'll never go nuts withthe 
  engine,but maybe a little more cam, intake and carb in the future. I 
  thought I'd start with headers. Suggestions, thanks for the input.
  
  Mark

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers suggestions

2005-01-17 Thread Clint Hooper




I've run Hooker Comps in the past but won't do 
so,again. Too many little things I don't like about them. Just my 
opinion,though.
You might check out Hedman or Sanderson for some 
smaller tube headers for that 396".
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm2001 
H-D FLHR custom bagger

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  I havea 66 with the stock 396, 325 hp, 4 sp. I would like to 
  install a set of headers and am looking for what fits and works well and what 
  doesn't. Iassume theHooker competitionwill fit, but I'd hate 
  to have to "ding" them to get clearance. Also they are 2" diameter, are they 
  too big for my application? I'll never go nuts withthe 
  engine,but maybe a little more cam, intake and carb in the future. I 
  thought I'd start with headers. Suggestions, thanks for the input.
  
  Mark

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers suggestions

2005-01-17 Thread Jack Thorpe

Hookers will fit the big block just fine. I have 2 inch on mine, no problem.

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From: 
To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net (Chevelle list Post)
Sent: 1/17/2005 3:44:56 PM 
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers suggestions

I havea 66 with the stock 396, 325 hp, 4 sp. I would like to install a set of headers and am looking for what fits and works well and what doesn't. Iassume theHooker competitionwill fit, but I'd hate to have to "ding" them to get clearance. Also they are 2" diameter, are they too big for my application? I'll never go nuts withthe engine,but maybe a little more cam, intake and carb in the future. I thought I'd start with headers. Suggestions, thanks for the input.

Mark

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers suggestions

2005-01-17 Thread Bill Vander Werf









I have 2 Hooker Super Comps on my 71
with no dinging. I hate dings. My motor isnt stock though and I race it.
Since you have a stock engine I would suggest you buy the 1 7/8 tube Super
Comps. The smaller tube headers provide more bottom end performance and that is
what you need most in a stock or slightly modified street engine.



Bill Vander Werf





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Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers
suggestions





I havea 66 with the stock 396, 325 hp, 4
sp. I would like to install a set of headers and am looking for what fits
and works well and what doesn't. Iassume theHooker
competitionwill fit, but I'd hate to have to ding them to get
clearance. Also they are 2 diameter, are they too big for my application?
I'll never go nuts withthe engine,but maybe a little more
cam, intake and carb in the future. I thought I'd start with headers.
Suggestions, thanks for the input.











Mark

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers suggestions

2005-01-17 Thread Bad66Chevelle454




Mark, I have a 66 with a 4spd and a 454. I have Hooker Super Comp 
headers, and no dings, and they fit really well. The are pretty close to the 
steering column, but they dont hit it at all.

-Tim

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2004-11-20 Thread Herb Lumpp




Hi Eric,

I have a set of AFR 305's waiting to go on 
my Elky. It took me a while but I did find one company that is willing to 
cater to the raised exhaust port. Stahl Headers. However, when I 
ordered a set their design did not clear three of my spark plugs so I returned 
them for a refund.

I've since found out that Stahl is designing 
a new header for the early Chevelles and have gotten an AFR head for their 
jig. You might contact them to see if their current design will work with 
the particular heads you have. Ask for Judy and tell her I sent 
you.

http://www.stahlheaders.com/index_old.html
Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm

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  [Chevelle-list] Headers
  Does anyone on the list have a 
  bbc with raised exhaust port heads? If so did you have to build your own 
  headers or is there a company that makes some reasonably priced 
  ones.
  
  Eric Hilpp
  67 
Malibu

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2004-11-20 Thread Mrchevey

I BELIEVE DOUG HEADERS MAKES THOSE

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2003-10-08 Thread Brad Waller

Damn few.  All I can say is to call everyone and ask them who you might
try when they say that they can't help.  I have a small block with a
raised port head engine in my Corvette and found a grand total of one
manufacturer: Sanderson http://www.sandersonheaders.com 1-800-669-2430.

Try Thorley, Doug's, Hedman, Hooker, and whomever you can think of...

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
'67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 4:09 PM
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 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headers 
 
 
 I have a set of Brodix BB2-Plus heads on my 396. The engine 
 is in a 67 
 Malibu, are there any companys that make Headers for heads 
 with raised exhaust 
 ports?

Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2003-10-08 Thread Clint Hooper

If you don't mind paying for top quality, Lemons Headers will custom-build a
set exactly for your combo. Joe Wilson Race Cars buys from them all the time
and is very satisfied with their products.
www.lemonsheaders.com/  or (805) 239-8998. Ask for Dan Lemons.
Clint Hooper
HH Custom,owner
LT5 Registry Director
http://www.LT5Registry.net/
ACES #1650
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
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From: Brad Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Damn few.  All I can say is to call everyone and ask them who you might
 try when they say that they can't help.  I have a small block with a
 raised port head engine in my Corvette and found a grand total of one
 manufacturer: Sanderson http://www.sandersonheaders.com 1-800-669-2430.
 Try Thorley, Doug's, Hedman, Hooker, and whomever you can think of...
 Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
 '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes

RE: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2003-10-08 Thread Capt Crunch

Man that a serious head for a 396! Wow! Well I have the same heads on my car 
and when I had it in my G body the hooker super comps fit with no problems. 
However the G body headers don't come anywhere near fitting in the chevelle. 
I'm gonna try a standard set and see how they look shortly.

Mikey


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Damn few.  All I can say is to call everyone and ask them who you might
try when they say that they can't help.  I have a small block with a
raised port head engine in my Corvette and found a grand total of one
manufacturer: Sanderson http://www.sandersonheaders.com 1-800-669-2430.
Try Thorley, Doug's, Hedman, Hooker, and whomever you can think of...

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
'66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed   | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs
'67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes
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 I have a set of Brodix BB2-Plus heads on my 396. The engine
 is in a 67
 Malibu, are there any companys that make Headers for heads
 with raised exhaust
 ports?




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Re: [Chevelle-list] Headers

2003-10-08 Thread Juiced66chevelle

I am going to Sanderson Headers for my 66' Chevelle. I'll let everyone know how it goes.

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-08-02 Thread BlazerMan00

Dynomax with 3" pipes  flowmasters

RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-08-01 Thread Brian Zack









If it is the same as the
small block, (which shouldnt be too different), You just have to drop
the starter, bolt it on, and put the starter back in. Not much harder than just
replacong the starter.







Brian Zack 
'70 Chevelle Malibu 
mailto:brianz@dpsabq.com 



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 31, 2003 8:14 PM
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headers and heat shields



were the heat shields hard to put on, clearance wise?

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-08-01 Thread BlazerMan00

Diane,
I appreiciate the help and will keep you informed

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-08-01 Thread LandMMilano

what headers are you using?

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  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:44 
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  heat shields
  Fellas,I have the same problem on 
  a 66 SS BB and I'm looking into a mini starter to rid myself of this problem 
  because these work with teeth so I'm told versus a stock type with a solenoid. 
  I really don't know much about it but I'm tired of taking my car out and not 
  being able to turn it off for fear of being stuck for a while. Been there done 
  that don't like it. Any help would be 
  appreciated 
  John 
  H. 
  66 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-08-01 Thread LandMMilano

what headers are you using?
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

 A question to the fellow header-users out there...

 Is it pretty much a rule of thumb to have to use a
 starter heat shield if you have headers?  I keep
 having problems starting my motor after it's been run
 for a while, but if I give it a few hours and fires
 right up.  I'm pretty certain that it's the starter
 getting hot, but this is my first time having headers
 on an SBC and wondered if it was a common problem.

 Thanks,

 Jim
 '66 Malibu
 '59 Corvette Project
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RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-07-31 Thread Brian Zack


I wore out my starter using headers and no heat shield. I put on a heat
shield when I replaced the starter and so far, no problems. I figure it
can't do anything but help the situation as far as helping to preserve
the starter.

Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Subject: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

A question to the fellow header-users out there...

Is it pretty much a rule of thumb to have to use a
starter heat shield if you have headers?  I keep
having problems starting my motor after it's been run
for a while, but if I give it a few hours and fires
right up.  I'm pretty certain that it's the starter
getting hot, but this is my first time having headers
on an SBC and wondered if it was a common problem.

Thanks,

Jim
'66 Malibu
'59 Corvette Project
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RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-07-31 Thread J. Brady

I find this whole issue fascinating actually-  how
does the heat actually destroy the starter, when it
does nothing but sit there?  Does it damage the
solenoid?  Never thought heat would do that.

Jim

'66 Malibu
'59 Corvette Project
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--- Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I wore out my starter using headers and no heat
 shield. I put on a heat
 shield when I replaced the starter and so far, no
 problems. I figure it
 can't do anything but help the situation as far as
 helping to preserve
 the starter.
 
 Brian Zack
 '70 Chevelle Malibu
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 A question to the fellow header-users out there...
 
 Is it pretty much a rule of thumb to have to use a
 starter heat shield if you have headers?  I keep
 having problems starting my motor after it's been
 run
 for a while, but if I give it a few hours and fires
 right up.  I'm pretty certain that it's the starter
 getting hot, but this is my first time having
 headers
 on an SBC and wondered if it was a common problem.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jim
 '66 Malibu
 '59 Corvette Project
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2003-07-31 Thread Brian Zack

The starter just sits there and cooks now that the exhaust is a bit
closer to the starter. (I guess)


Brian Zack
'70 Chevelle Malibu
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I find this whole issue fascinating actually-  how
does the heat actually destroy the starter, when it
does nothing but sit there?  Does it damage the
solenoid?  Never thought heat would do that.

Jim

'66 Malibu
'59 Corvette Project
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--- Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I wore out my starter using headers and no heat
 shield. I put on a heat
 shield when I replaced the starter and so far, no
 problems. I figure it
 can't do anything but help the situation as far as
 helping to preserve
 the starter.
 
 Brian Zack
 '70 Chevelle Malibu
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 From: J. Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:13 PM
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 Subject: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields
 
 A question to the fellow header-users out there...
 
 Is it pretty much a rule of thumb to have to use a
 starter heat shield if you have headers?  I keep
 having problems starting my motor after it's been
 run
 for a while, but if I give it a few hours and fires
 right up.  I'm pretty certain that it's the starter
 getting hot, but this is my first time having
 headers
 on an SBC and wondered if it was a common problem.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jim
 '66 Malibu
 '59 Corvette Project
 http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/
 
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RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-07-31 Thread J. Brady

Might have to pick one up tonite after the hOOters
Cruise Nite   8^]

Jim
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--- Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The starter just sits there and cooks now that the
 exhaust is a bit
 closer to the starter. (I guess)
 
 
 Brian Zack
 '70 Chevelle Malibu
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 -Original Message-
 From: J. Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:31 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat
 shields
 
 I find this whole issue fascinating actually-  how
 does the heat actually destroy the starter, when it
 does nothing but sit there?  Does it damage the
 solenoid?  Never thought heat would do that.
 
 Jim
 
 '66 Malibu
 '59 Corvette Project
 http://webpages.comcast.net/jbiii/
 
 
 --- Brian Zack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I wore out my starter using headers and no heat
  shield. I put on a heat
  shield when I replaced the starter and so far, no
  problems. I figure it
  can't do anything but help the situation as far as
  helping to preserve
  the starter.
  
  Brian Zack
  '70 Chevelle Malibu
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  -Original Message-
  From: J. Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields
  
  A question to the fellow header-users out there...
  
  Is it pretty much a rule of thumb to have to use a
  starter heat shield if you have headers?  I keep
  having problems starting my motor after it's been
  run
  for a while, but if I give it a few hours and
 fires
  right up.  I'm pretty certain that it's the
 starter
  getting hot, but this is my first time having
  headers
  on an SBC and wondered if it was a common problem.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jim
  '66 Malibu
  '59 Corvette Project
  http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jbiii/
  
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Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-07-31 Thread Bad66Chevelle454

I have a 66 Chevelle, with a 454, with Hooker Super Comp headers. I have never ran a heat shield, and I live in Southern Cali...During summer it gets up to about 103 or so...and Ive been in that heat, in stop and goNever had any problems startingJust my 2 cents.

-Tim

RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

 Yup, rule of thumb. starter heat shields are almost free. use one or
have some girl on the internet say I told you so ;-Diane



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Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

Fellas,
I have the same problem on a 66 SS BB and I'm looking into a mini starter to rid myself of this problem because these work with teeth so I'm told versus a stock type with a solenoid. I really don't know much about it but I'm tired of taking my car out and not being able to turn it off for fear of being stuck for a while. Been there done that don't like it. Any help would be appreciated
 John H.
 66 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

Diane,
I heard that a heat shield is just another heat conductor and if you have the problem now, then it would just be a matter of time until the heat problem would rear its ugly head again that is, unless the shield is made of some special material.

RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-07-31 Thread Tom Tomlinson




I had 
a starter heat problem with my old headers (Hooker), which were 1/4" from the 
starter on by 350 Malibu (stock starter). The starter would not engagein 
hotweather after being run. Occasionally Icould get itto work 
if the solenoid was hit when the ignition was on (a two person job + a big 
stick).
Last 
winter I replaced my headers, and put aheat shield fromSummit on the 
same starter/solenoid. No problems this year. The fact that the new headers are 
farther from the starter probably helps as well.

Tom 
Tomlinson

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  [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shieldsDiane,I heard that a heat shield is just another heat 
  conductor and if you have the problem now, then it would just be a matter of 
  time until the heat problem would rear its ugly head again that is, unless the 
  shield is made of some special material.

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-07-31 Thread Bad66Chevelle454

Also, on my Chevelle, I have a remote starter soleniod, and its up on the firewall, so it doesnt get nearly as much heat as the starteranother option for those of you having a big problem with hot starters.

RE: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields




Blazer-man
 Well, speaking from years of owning chevys I can tell 
you heat shields are a good investment. I had the same problem with several cars 
and it went away instantly after adding the shield. Don't believe me? call "Mega 
torque" Starter and alternators in Kansas City 816-231-7032. Heat shields 
do just that. they shield from heat. hence the name ;-D, take it from the pros. 
Just trying to pass on 
knowledge:-Diane

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

2003-07-31 Thread Mike Holleman

Had the same problem. I bought a Tilton mini starter and have not had any
more trouble with the hot solenoid syndrome.
Mike Holleman
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From: J. Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:13 PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

 A question to the fellow header-users out there...

 Is it pretty much a rule of thumb to have to use a
 starter heat shield if you have headers?  I keep
 having problems starting my motor after it's been run
 for a while, but if I give it a few hours and fires
 right up.  I'm pretty certain that it's the starter
 getting hot, but this is my first time having headers
 on an SBC and wondered if it was a common problem.

 Thanks,

 Jim
 '66 Malibu
 '59 Corvette Project
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Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

Diane,
Thanks for the info. and I do believe you because I really don't know this being my first muscle car. It really does'nt matter who I get the answers for my problems from as long as they make sense and I admit that you seem to know a lot more about these things than I along with all the great fellas on this list . Thanks again
 John H.
 66 SS

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

By the way, is it hard getting the shields on in a BB chevelle with headers?

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John;
 I'd bet Mega torque could get you one. Thanks, I appreciate 
your thoughts. I just try to help. I'm new here, but I have loved Chevelles for 
as long as I can remember. And yeah, the people here are great. I think this 
chevelle-list is allot of fun. I admit I don't know it all, and big blocks 
aren't my norm. I like to hear the mouse motors roar, guess I'm a sucker for the 
underdog. After reading all today's posts I went out and stamped my vin # on my 
frame. Can't be too safe nowadays. I'm going to look into etching the # on the 
glass too. I figure why not, it can't hurt, and car thieves need to be 
deturred(misspelled?) anyway good luck with that big block. I think header 
distance from the starter might have some bearing too. Its your first musclecar? 
Oh I envy you. Its a special feeling owning one. or should I say being owned by 
one guys? I feel like the fifth wheel here, but being an ornery redhead with two 
big brothers I feel right at home. Well, back to the 
garagePep.

Chevelles, they're not just boy toys 
;-)

Re: [Chevelle-list] headers and heat shields

were the heat shields hard to put on, clearance wise?

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