Re: EIGRP Mystery??

2000-11-23 Thread Elias Aggelidis

do you use tcp header compression 


If yes try remove it first .

Regards

Elias
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: EIGRP Mystery??



 can you replicate this?  did you capture any debug output?

 brian

 On Wed, 22 Nov 2000, dennis rufolo wrote:

  Does anyone have a suggestion or solution???
 
  Frame Relay hub and spoke network.  2 central site 3640's each with a
  T1(on each) set to dlci 900
  on one and dlci 901 on the other.
 
  85 remote locations, 1750's 56k wic1s 32k CIR.  42  mapped to dlci 900-
  43 mapped to dlci 901.
 
  We are using eigrp on a 10.0.0.0 network.HERE is the question. ( by
  the way I have a current open T.A.C. case and they seem to be stumped)
 
  4 remote locations dropped from our network. couldn't ping, telnet, or
  pass traffic--YET
  the show frame pvc # command on both the hub(3640) and the spokes(1750)
  showed ACTIVE.
  We were able to dial into the remote routers.
 
  After looking at all the obvious we tried to map a STATIC route and
  bang!!! the circuit came right back.
 
  Why is this needed at all when we are using eigrp? Why only on these 4?
 
  I would appreciate any ideas.   Thanks
 
  Dennis Rufolo
  Ewing Irrigation Products
  Phoenix,Az.
 
 
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RE: HSRP

2000-11-23 Thread Taiwo Adeshugba



Naveen,
The 
router with the highest standby priority in the group becomes the active 
router,but by default the lowest mac address becomes the active router if both 
the active and standby router fails.also be aware that they also said that if 
the priorities are the same the router with the highest ip address becomes the 
active router.so
Highest priority
Highest ip address if the priorities are the same
Lowest 
Mac address if both the active and standby fails. I WISH THEY JUST TAKE 
ONE.

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Naveen 
  SharmaSent: 22 November 2000 16:53To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: HSRP
  Dear friends,
  
  Cisco press book says lowest MAC address router becomes the 
  active router (In HSRP). At other place it says router with highest standby 
  priority becomes the active router.
  
  Can any one clarify the situation of active and standby 
  routers in HSRP.I am confused.
  
  Thanks in advance.
  
  Regards
  
  Naveen


Re: HSRP

2000-11-23 Thread Elias Aggelidis


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From: "James Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: HSRP


 The MAC address criteria is used when the routers bidding for active status
 have the same priority

Which is not recommended !
(for obvious reasons)



 At 08:52 PM 22/11/2000 +0400, Naveen Sharma wrote:
 Dear friends,
 
 Cisco press book says lowest MAC address router becomes the active router
 (In HSRP). At other place it says router with highest standby priority
 becomes the active router.
 
 Can any one clarify the situation of active and standby routers in HSRP.I
 am confused.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Regards
 
 Naveen

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Re:

2000-11-23 Thread Elias Aggelidis

NOPE !

I have seen it many times.
Check IOS (if they do not match put the same on both boxes)

I am trying to remember what was my problem (I was using ISDN)

When I will find my notes I send to you what I have done.

Regards

Elias
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Subject: RE:


 Sounds like a router ACL is blocking one direction of the call.

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 Tommy Lee
 Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:47 AM
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 Subject:


 Hello

 I am configuring VoIP and facing the following
 problems in FXS to FXS

 1. The bell is not heard on the remote end. THe phone
 is picked up by seeing the LED(I have checked the
 ringer of the apparatus)

 2. I can hear the voice from the remote end by my
 colleague on the remote end cannot hear my voice no
 matter whosoever dials first. Voice has become one
 way.

 ANy help will be appreciated.

 Thanks

 T.L

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redistributing OSPF and EIGRP

2000-11-23 Thread ALI SHEERAZ

hi friends

i want to redistribute OSPF with EIGRP and the reditribution is across 
different autonomous systems ?

any sugesstions???

sheeraz
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CCNA Assistance

2000-11-23 Thread Adedapo Omisore

Hi ya,
I am about starting my cisco certification and will be happy if anyone in 
the house could give me the relevant materials needed for the certification.

I'll like to hear from you.

Thanks
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Re: EIGRP Mystery??

2000-11-23 Thread Simon Hope

Hi Denis,

Do the 4 remote networks show as Active in the EIGRP topology table ("sh ip
eigrp top" then look for "A" next to routing entries

With a relatively large network like yours the EIGRP quiery boundry for the
DUAL algorithm may be causing 4 of your routes to get "Stuck in Active"

Do the remote sites have a full routing table, or just a summary / default
produced by the core routers - if full table then check your bandwidth
settings on the edge routers. Eigrp will only use 50% (or ip eigrp-bandwidth
X) of the _configured_ bandwith that a link has.

This has happened to me before, where although the site has 32k, for some
reason the configured bandwith on the serial int was 3.2k (typo in config)
and thus the eigrp process forced itself to use 1.6k for all routing updates
and hellos. consequently adjanceys dropped despite the pvc remaining
operational.

Simon


"dennis rufolo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Does anyone have a suggestion or solution???

 Frame Relay hub and spoke network.  2 central site 3640's each with a
 T1(on each) set to dlci 900
 on one and dlci 901 on the other.

 85 remote locations, 1750's 56k wic1s 32k CIR.  42  mapped to dlci 900-
 43 mapped to dlci 901.

 We are using eigrp on a 10.0.0.0 network.HERE is the question. ( by
 the way I have a current open T.A.C. case and they seem to be stumped)

 4 remote locations dropped from our network. couldn't ping, telnet, or
 pass traffic--YET
 the show frame pvc # command on both the hub(3640) and the spokes(1750)
 showed ACTIVE.
 We were able to dial into the remote routers.

 After looking at all the obvious we tried to map a STATIC route and
 bang!!! the circuit came right back.

 Why is this needed at all when we are using eigrp? Why only on these 4?

 I would appreciate any ideas.   Thanks

 Dennis Rufolo
 Ewing Irrigation Products
 Phoenix,Az.


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need Info about Syslog message

2000-11-23 Thread karthikeyan



Hai Group,
 I want to know about the format 
of syslog messages thrown by the devices.
I want to capture those messages and anlayse so can 
you give some info regading this.

Thx,
Karthi


Re: Study material for CCNP

2000-11-23 Thread Ware, Balasaheb

Hi everybody, I am about to start for my CCNA 2.0 Certification. It seems
there is a set of 4 books from Ciscopress ,but unfortunatelly it is not
available in the Book stall . Hence I request you all to send me all the
study materials ,if possible the  web link to study guides on the internet.
Looking forward positive from you.
Thanks in advance

Bala 

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Stupid Cat 5xxx question

2000-11-23 Thread Timothy Metz

I've just read (and never noticed on the 5500 we have at work), that the
5xxx series has a RS-232 console connector (I assume this to mean DB9 or
DB25) that requires the use of a rollover cable (it did not say null modem),
so I guess that means I need two DB25/DB9 to RJ-45 connectors and a rollover
between them to log on through the console port.

Can someone please confirm.

Happy Thanksgiving (to those who observe)

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something about dialing in remote network

2000-11-23 Thread cslx

could the remote 2620 tell the pc the DNSGATEWAY's Address?if can,how can I
config the router?
thanx!


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Re: BGP as-path access-lists

2000-11-23 Thread A. Geoffrey Cauchi

Apologies for previous message but it was incomplete!!

Hi

As regards the symbols:

^-Beginning Of String,
$-End Of String,
_-Any Delimeter (beginning, end, whitespace, tab, comma),
.-Any Single Character,
+-matches one or more atoms,
?-matches zero or one atom,
*-matches zero or more atoms,
()-Can be used to group smaller regular expressions into larger
expressions

Note atom = Sequence


With reference to your access-lists:

ip as-path access-list 1 permit  ^$
Here you are permitting IP addresses generated in your AS

ip as-path access-list 4 permit  ^(_6774) +$
Permit AS 6774.  It does not have to be at the start, but it cannot be at
the end.

ip as-path access-list 10 permit  .*5413$
This permits AS5413 provided IP's are generated in this AS, due to the $
sign just after the AS number, but which are also passing through another
AS, due to the .

ip as-path access-list 6 permit  ^ (_3414) + (_2423) +$
Permit traffic going through AS3414 and AS2423.  The traffic is not
generated in these AS's

Hope that this helps.  As regards links, these are quite good:

http://joe.lindsay.net/bgp.html
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/techdoc
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/13.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/14.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/15.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/16.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/17.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/18.html


Regards
Geoffrey


- Original Message -
From: Andre Fecteau
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 7:13 PM
Subject: BGP as-path access-lists


Hello,
I have been recently placed in the awkward position of making some changes
to our BGP configuration.  The problem is that I understand how bgp works
for the main part, but I don't have any information on the meaning of the
symbols used in the following as-path access-lists (^, $, _, ., +, (), *).
Could someone tell me what each of them mean?  Could someone also point me
to a Cisco page that explains them in detail?  I have been searching and
cannot find anything except examples that include these symbols.
Unfortuneately these examples have not helped my understanding.  I have a
good idea as to what they probably mean, but I need to know their exact
meaning.  It is difficult to manage something you don't have a clear
understanding of!
ip as-path access-list 1 permit  ^$
ip as-path access-list 4 permit  ^(_6774) +$
ip as-path access-list 10 permit  .*5413$
ip as-path access-list 6 permit  ^ (_3414) + (_2423) +$
HELP!!!
Andre

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Re: BGP as-path access-lists

2000-11-23 Thread A. Geoffrey Cauchi



Hi

As regards the symbols:

^ - Beginning Of String, 
$ - End Of String, _ 
- Any Delimeter (beginning, end, whitespace, tab, comma), 
. - Any Single Character, 
+ - matches one or more atoms, 
? - matches zero or one 
atom, * - matches zero or 
more atoms, () - Can be used to group 
smaller regular expressions into larger expressions

Note atom = Sequence


With reference to your access-lists:

ip as-path access-list 1 permit ^$ 
Here you are permitting IP addresses generated in your 
AS

ip as-path access-list 4 permit ^(_6774) +$ Permit AS 6774. It does not have to be at the start, but it cannot 
be at the end.
ip as-path access-list 10 permit .*5413$ This permits AS5413 provided IP's are generated in this AS, due to the $ 
sign just after the AS number, but which are also passing through another AS, 
due to the .
ip as-path access-list 6 permit ^ (_3414) + (_2423) +$ 

Permit traffic going through AS3414 and AS2423. The 
traffic is not generated in these AS's

Hope that this helps. As regards links, these are quite 
good:

http://joe.lindsay.net/bgp.html
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/tablebuild.pl/techdoc
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/18.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/13.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/13.html




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Andre Fecteau 
  
  Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 7:13 
  PM
  Subject: BGP as-path access-lists
  Hello, 
  I have been recently placed in the awkward position of making some changes 
  to our BGP configuration. The problem is that I understand how bgp works 
  for the main part, but I don't have any information on the meaning of the 
  symbols used in the following as-path access-lists (^, $, _, ., +, (), 
  *). Could someone tell me what each of them mean? Could 
  someone also point me to a Cisco page that explains them in detail? I 
  have been searching and cannot find anything except examples that include 
  these symbols. Unfortuneately these examples have not helped my 
  understanding. I have a good idea as to what they probably mean, but I 
  need to know their exact meaning. It is difficult to manage something 
  you don't have a clear understanding of! 
  ip as-path access-list 1 permit ^$ ip as-path access-list 
  4 permit ^(_6774) +$ ip as-path access-list 10 permit 
  .*5413$ ip as-path access-list 6 permit ^ (_3414) + 
  (_2423) +$ 
  HELP!!! Andre 


regarding ospf redistribution

2000-11-23 Thread B R

friends!!

Iam facing a problem in a ISP environment.
Customers connect to our isdn router(3640) and static
ip was given to diff customers  and these static
ips are redistributed in to ospf and they can brouse
very
well and it is fine.But the problem is ..suddenly
sometimes they can't browse the net when he reconnects
the net and datatranfer becomes zero.

When i clear ospf redistribution ,it works ..but
i have to do this atleast 5 times a day.
Can anybody pls tell me what's the reason??

Why static ip is not getting redistributed in to
ospf when customer connects again??
I tried changing IOS version..but no use...
Presently iam running 12.0...

Hope somebody will throw some light on this

ravi



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Re: Stupid Cat 5xxx question

2000-11-23 Thread Elias Aggelidis

NOPE !

It has an RJ-45 connector which you can use it
with  both DB25 or DB9 connectors from Cisco and
a STRAIT cable NOT ROLLOVER 


ELIAS


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 12:59 PM
Subject: Stupid Cat 5xxx question


 I've just read (and never noticed on the 5500 we have at work), that the
 5xxx series has a RS-232 console connector (I assume this to mean DB9 or
 DB25) that requires the use of a rollover cable (it did not say null modem),
 so I guess that means I need two DB25/DB9 to RJ-45 connectors and a rollover
 between them to log on through the console port.

 Can someone please confirm.

 Happy Thanksgiving (to those who observe)

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Re: CCNA Assistance

2000-11-23 Thread Paul Borghese

You might want to check on the Associates group, a group setup for CCNA,
CCDA study.

Paul

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Subject: CCNA Assistance


 Hi ya,
 I am about starting my cisco certification and will be happy if anyone in
 the house could give me the relevant materials needed for the
certification.

 I'll like to hear from you.

 Thanks
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GRE VS. IPSEc

2000-11-23 Thread Liwanag, Manolito

I have a remote site that I want to connect to our central site that has a
PIX.  I was thinking of using IPSec with context based access control.  But
I was wondering if GRE is just as good ? ( to Qualify - reliable, easy to
set up, secure and can handle plenty of tunnels) Can anyone advise ?

Manolito 
 

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Re: Stupid Cat 5xxx question

2000-11-23 Thread Shahir Boshra

well, the cable is the same cisco RJ-45 cable used for any console. it's in
fact "inverted" meaning pin1 attaches to pin 8 of the other side and so on.


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024801c05548$665ab200$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:024801c05548$665ab200$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 NOPE !

 It has an RJ-45 connector which you can use it
 with  both DB25 or DB9 connectors from Cisco and
 a STRAIT cable NOT ROLLOVER 


 ELIAS


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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 12:59 PM
 Subject: Stupid Cat 5xxx question


  I've just read (and never noticed on the 5500 we have at work), that the
  5xxx series has a RS-232 console connector (I assume this to mean DB9 or
  DB25) that requires the use of a rollover cable (it did not say null
modem),
  so I guess that means I need two DB25/DB9 to RJ-45 connectors and a
rollover
  between them to log on through the console port.
 
  Can someone please confirm.
 
  Happy Thanksgiving (to those who observe)
 
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passive FTP

2000-11-23 Thread tayta

I have seen an issue discussed here before regarding passive ftp getting
mucked up by routing equipment?
I am experiancing this problem at the moment,  when using std. windows FTP
clients (default  Passive ftp) i get very bad performance issues connecting
to a  Unix FTP server ( no config changes here in last while)
It started from one day to the next (without me making any Router-cisco
access list changes etc)
Sympthoms are very slow port connection time after authentication, and very
slow reaction to commands there after (1-2 mins),
data transfer however is completly normal, seems to be always a prob.
connecting through these higher ports,

anyone remeber what the out come was?

weird


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Palmpilot question

2000-11-23 Thread Marc_Andre Giroux

Does anyone know where to find the the cisco product catalog for palm. or a
IP subnet calculator?


Marc Giroux
1501 McGill College, suite 600
Montreal (Quebec) Canada
Tel:(514)847-6866 FAX:(514)847-6802
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Re: redistributing OSPF and EIGRP

2000-11-23 Thread Peter Van Oene

Can you clarify what you  mean by autonomous systems?  The term is somewhat ambiguous 
in this context.

Thanks,

Pete


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 11/23/2000 at 9:12 AM ALI SHEERAZ wrote:

hi friends

i want to redistribute OSPF with EIGRP and the reditribution is across 
different autonomous systems ?

any sugesstions???

sheeraz
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Re: CCNA Assistance

2000-11-23 Thread JLBCisco

Dapo,

I've started a new 'hobby' of reviewing on Amazon.com the books I've used. 
The three books I used for the CCNA 2.0 are there with all my pithy comments 
and suggestions on passing the test, here's the URL:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/cm/member-reviews/-/A2Z1PROMJX6LVK/1/ref=

cm_mp_rv/105-1553287-6468742

Watch the wrap, hope this helps.

Joe

 Hi ya,
  I am about starting my cisco certification and will be happy if anyone in 
  the house could give me the relevant materials needed for the 
certification.
  
  I'll like to hear from you.
  
  Thanks
  Dapo
  

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Re: Palmpilot question

2000-11-23 Thread D. J. Jones

You can get an ip subnet calculator from www.boson.com

dj

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 Does anyone know where to find the the cisco product catalog for palm. or
a
 IP subnet calculator?


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RE: need Info about Syslog message

2000-11-23 Thread Gordon Olson



You 
can download and run a syslog server from your PC. I think Boson has one on 
their web site - freebie. After installing it on your PC, (or you can run the 
one available in most Unix systems) telnet to your router(s) and from a config# 
type "logging 192.168.25.2" or the ip address of your PC in which you 
installed the syslog server. 

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  message
  Hai Group,
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  format of syslog messages thrown by the devices.
  I want to capture those messages and anlayse so 
  can you give some info regading this.
  
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FDDI address field size ?

2000-11-23 Thread Phil Barker

Greetings,
 Reading through CIT course notes Appendix A.
It states that the Frame Control field indicates the
size of the address fields i.e variable, this is
followed by the size of the address fields is 6 bytes.


Does anyone know the history behind this ?

I´m guessing that it was being positioned to
accomodate variable and differing other LAN
technologies address sizes, such that it could be used
as a versatile backbone !!!

Any comments ?

Regards,

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Re: Stupid Cat 5xxx question

2000-11-23 Thread Elias Aggelidis

YES,

but when I have tried in a 5509 it did not worked until
I have used an ethernet Patch Cord (1 to 1, 2 to 2 and so on)

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Subject: Re: Stupid Cat 5xxx question


 well, the cable is the same cisco RJ-45 cable used for any console. it's in
 fact "inverted" meaning pin1 attaches to pin 8 of the other side and so on.


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  NOPE !
 
  It has an RJ-45 connector which you can use it
  with  both DB25 or DB9 connectors from Cisco and
  a STRAIT cable NOT ROLLOVER 
 
 
  ELIAS
 
 
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   I've just read (and never noticed on the 5500 we have at work), that the
   5xxx series has a RS-232 console connector (I assume this to mean DB9 or
   DB25) that requires the use of a rollover cable (it did not say null
 modem),
   so I guess that means I need two DB25/DB9 to RJ-45 connectors and a
 rollover
   between them to log on through the console port.
  
   Can someone please confirm.
  
   Happy Thanksgiving (to those who observe)
  
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Dial on demand

2000-11-23 Thread Paco García

Hi all:

I need that 2 routers cisco don´t hung up the line, all the time must be
openened, and if one of them hung up the line, automatically call another
time.

How can I do this? Are there any command?

Thanks


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Re: Packeteer

2000-11-23 Thread Peter Van Oene
Title: Packeteer



The Packeteer unit would have the ability to apply some quality of service 
to your outbound traffic (via TCP window manipulation with application layer 
awareness).
However, doing so would require them to setup a policy based on the 
application requirements at your site. I would expect them to have 
discussions with you about this type of thing before moving forward as it is 
somewhat intrusive.

Pete

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  I wonder if anyone can assist. We have 2 MEG links 
  from a 7500 Router in our organisation to various ISP's. One particular ISP 
  has implemented bandwidth management with the use of Packeteer. They tell us 
  that by placing the Packeteer unit at the ISP they can assist with managing 
  the bandwidth across our 2 MEG link in both directions. I understand that with 
  the Packeteer unit placed at the ISP they will be able to assist with 
  bandwidth management incoming to our 7500 but surely they cannot manage 
  bandwidth outgoing from our 7500 Surely the data is on our 2 MEG link before 
  it reaches the ISP where the Packeteer unit is? Would we not require a unit on 
  our side as well? 
  Any comments on this or Packeteer will be 
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OSPF NSSA problem

2000-11-23 Thread Simon Hope

Hi guys / gals,

Here is an interesting problem that I am struggling with at present

Area 4 of my OSPF network is configured as NSSA and has 3 routers in it.

Router 1 is the ABR that connects to the backbone, Router 2 is the ASBR that
is redistributing some IGRP networks into area 4 and Router 3 is just an
internal area 4 router. They are connected together over one ethernet.

I would like to set the "P" bit on the type 7 LSA's that the ASBR produces
to zero, so that the ABR (r1) will NOT convert these to Type 5's and NOT put
them into the backbone (see Doyle, p483 if you dont know what I mean)

the closest command I can come up with is the "area 4 nssa no-redistribute"
, which I thought would work when I typed it in on R2 (the ASBR) - but this
seems to block the production of the type 7 LSA altogether, so that R1 and
R3 can no longer see the IGRP routes at all

If I type the "area 4 nssa no-redistribute" on the ABR (R1) then this has no
effect whatsoever, and the type 7 routes still get converted to type 5, and
flooded into the backbone. Doyle says this command should be implemented on
the ASBR not a seperate ABR so this doesn't surprise me too much

Does anyone know how to do this?




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RE: Palmpilot question

2000-11-23 Thread Shaun Wakelen

3Com have a subnet calculator called 3CIPCalc version 1.02 available on
their web site

Shaun (UK)

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Does anyone know where to find the the cisco product catalog
for palm. or a
IP subnet calculator?


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WAN Protocols, Connection Oriented V Connectionless ?

2000-11-23 Thread Phil Barker

Hi,
  Does anyone have a link for a definitive comparison
between cnnection oriented versus connectionless WAN
Protocols ?

e.g SDLC, HDLC, HDLC (Cisco), LAPB, PPP.

I realise that SDLC, HDLC, LAPB, PPP are all in effect
the same frame format and I´m thinking they should all
be connectionless allowing higher level protocols like
TCP to provide the reliability. 

I have some confusion though with the similarity with
IEEE 802.2, i.e I´ve read that PPP contains a control
field of 03 making it connectionless. 

However, if an application used 02 in the control
field it could presumably be connection orientated.
i.e it has the ability to support both.

Any thoughts ?

Regards,

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RE: Stupid Cat 5xxx question

2000-11-23 Thread Faxon, James

if pin 1 attaches to pin 8 and so on would this mean that it is in fact a
rollover cable?? plus i just ran into an issue with and external modem hook
up that required a rollover cable and in indeed we where able to use the
console cable for this. 

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well, the cable is the same cisco RJ-45 cable used for any console. it's in
fact "inverted" meaning pin1 attaches to pin 8 of the other side and so on.


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 NOPE !

 It has an RJ-45 connector which you can use it
 with  both DB25 or DB9 connectors from Cisco and
 a STRAIT cable NOT ROLLOVER 


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  I've just read (and never noticed on the 5500 we have at work), that the
  5xxx series has a RS-232 console connector (I assume this to mean DB9 or
  DB25) that requires the use of a rollover cable (it did not say null
modem),
  so I guess that means I need two DB25/DB9 to RJ-45 connectors and a
rollover
  between them to log on through the console port.
 
  Can someone please confirm.
 
  Happy Thanksgiving (to those who observe)
 
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Re: Resume Help..

2000-11-23 Thread K. Nathan Casassa

This is not selfhelp.groupstudy.com

Kevin O'Gilvie wrote:

 Hello again Cisco Lovers,

 I am trying to put my resume together , I am a Sytems Administrator with
 about 2 years experience in NT primarily, Checkpoint, Mac and client OS's. I
 was wondering if you guys can send me some resume's so I can get a basic
 idea of what mine should look like..

 Thanks in advance,

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Frf9 compression

2000-11-23 Thread Claudio Fernandez

I need information about Frf9 compression and what kind of router I should
use for a 128 k link !

thanks.

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Re: redistributing OSPF and EIGRP

2000-11-23 Thread Brian

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, ALI SHEERAZ wrote:

 hi friends

 i want to redistribute OSPF with EIGRP and the reditribution is across
 different autonomous systems ?

on the same router though?  This isn't a problem, just "redistribute"
command as normal and specify the AS you are redistributing.

Brian



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Lab Prep Locations

2000-11-23 Thread Gordon Olson

What are considered the best Lab Prep Bootcamps? Could you supply the URL's
of the ones you feel are worth a look?


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RE: Palmpilot question

2000-11-23 Thread Johns, John A.

Anybody know about the Blackberry???

Any other experiences with the Blackberry, good or bad..

Thanks,

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RE: CCNP Study Guides

2000-11-23 Thread Faxon, James

If you look on www.barnesandnobel.com they have the pack for the 2.0v but
you have to wait 1-2 weeks for delivery. but it you are able to spend the
extra $ I would suggest you get the individual books mainly cause they come
with test engines that will help in your studies and the library does not
come with CDs hope this helps 

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I know there is a Cisco Press study pack available for CCNP V1.0, I have
been looking on Amazon for the new study pack but the info they provide is a
bit vague. Can anybody comment on whether the CCNP Study pack has been
updated for CCNP V2.0? Any other comments regarding this area would be
appreciated.


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basic questions in config

2000-11-23 Thread Brian Dellong

in the router config what does this stand for

ip htpp server

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annoying line after config t

2000-11-23 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Isn't there a command to suppress the annoying "00:01:35: %SYS-5-CONFIG_i:
Configured from console by console" line and dramatic pause every time you
exit the config term?  I was so happy to learn the "no ip domain-lookup"
command to suppress the pause every time you mistype a command, but this one
still stumps me.  You help is appreciated.  Thanks...
 - Dennis

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Re: OSPF NSSA problem

2000-11-23 Thread Brian

i
What about running the ABR (R1) as "stub no-summary"? and just leaving the
other routers in the area as "stub".


Brian


On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Simon Hope wrote:

 Hi guys / gals,

 Here is an interesting problem that I am struggling with at present

 Area 4 of my OSPF network is configured as NSSA and has 3 routers in it.

 Router 1 is the ABR that connects to the backbone, Router 2 is the ASBR that
 is redistributing some IGRP networks into area 4 and Router 3 is just an
 internal area 4 router. They are connected together over one ethernet.

 I would like to set the "P" bit on the type 7 LSA's that the ASBR produces
 to zero, so that the ABR (r1) will NOT convert these to Type 5's and NOT put
 them into the backbone (see Doyle, p483 if you dont know what I mean)

 the closest command I can come up with is the "area 4 nssa no-redistribute"
 , which I thought would work when I typed it in on R2 (the ASBR) - but this
 seems to block the production of the type 7 LSA altogether, so that R1 and
 R3 can no longer see the IGRP routes at all

 If I type the "area 4 nssa no-redistribute" on the ABR (R1) then this has no
 effect whatsoever, and the type 7 routes still get converted to type 5, and
 flooded into the backbone. Doyle says this command should be implemented on
 the ASBR not a seperate ABR so this doesn't surprise me too much

 Does anyone know how to do this?




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Cisco Netacademy ?

2000-11-23 Thread Hans Schimek

i am a regular user of the cisco netacad program -
i am allowed to enter the CCNA program but for now
i am not allowed to enter the CCNP program anymore -
the regional academy where i am studying does not have the CCNP license so
far.
i am nearly finished with the CCNP program . until yesterday i used this
netacad-curriculum - but today i am not allowed anymore.
does anyone have a password and username for that
site. just to complete my ccnp certification 


thanx in advance


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Re: basic questions in config

2000-11-23 Thread Brian

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Brian Dellong wrote:

 in the router config what does this stand for

 ip htpp server

its "ip http server", it allows you to access ther outer via http, and
imho is a bad idea in a production enviroment.

brian



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Re: OSPF NSSA problem

2000-11-23 Thread Peter Van Oene

It is my belief that the P bit is unmodifiable.  Type 7's are advertised as 5's to the 
OSPF domain in almost if not all manufacturers equipment.  Although some texts allude 
to the fact that you can control this behavior with a nob, I've never seen it.  

Pete


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On 11/23/2000 at 4:54 PM Simon Hope wrote:

Hi guys / gals,

Here is an interesting problem that I am struggling with at present

Area 4 of my OSPF network is configured as NSSA and has 3 routers in it.

Router 1 is the ABR that connects to the backbone, Router 2 is the ASBR that
is redistributing some IGRP networks into area 4 and Router 3 is just an
internal area 4 router. They are connected together over one ethernet.

I would like to set the "P" bit on the type 7 LSA's that the ASBR produces
to zero, so that the ABR (r1) will NOT convert these to Type 5's and NOT put
them into the backbone (see Doyle, p483 if you dont know what I mean)

the closest command I can come up with is the "area 4 nssa no-redistribute"
, which I thought would work when I typed it in on R2 (the ASBR) - but this
seems to block the production of the type 7 LSA altogether, so that R1 and
R3 can no longer see the IGRP routes at all

If I type the "area 4 nssa no-redistribute" on the ABR (R1) then this has no
effect whatsoever, and the type 7 routes still get converted to type 5, and
flooded into the backbone. Doyle says this command should be implemented on
the ASBR not a seperate ABR so this doesn't surprise me too much

Does anyone know how to do this?




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Re: regarding ospf redistribution

2000-11-23 Thread Brian

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, B R wrote:

 friends!!

 Iam facing a problem in a ISP environment.
 Customers connect to our isdn router(3640) and static
 ip was given to diff customers  and these static
 ips are redistributed in to ospf and they can brouse
 very
 well and it is fine.But the problem is ..suddenly
 sometimes they can't browse the net when he reconnects
 the net and datatranfer becomes zero.

 When i clear ospf redistribution ,it works ..but
 i have to do this atleast 5 times a day.
 Can anybody pls tell me what's the reason??

Do you have a single router, or multiple routers utilzing that same
address space?  Are you only redistributing connected/static into OSPF, or
are you redistributing other protocols into one another?


 Why static ip is not getting redistributed in to
 ospf when customer connects again??

So you have confirmed that the ip is not being redistributed into OSPF
when they connect again?  What does "sh ip route x.x.x.x" show for the ip?

 I tried changing IOS version..but no use...
 Presently iam running 12.0...

 Hope somebody will throw some light on this

 ravi



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Re: annoying line after config t

2000-11-23 Thread Brian

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Dennis Laganiere wrote:

 Isn't there a command to suppress the annoying "00:01:35: %SYS-5-CONFIG_i:
 Configured from console by console" line and dramatic pause every time you
 exit the config term?  I was so happy to learn the "no ip domain-lookup"
 command to suppress the pause every time you mistype a command, but this one
 still stumps me.  You help is appreciated.  Thanks...

You can adjust the log level for the console logging.  Also you can set
"logging buffered" so that your log output goes to a buffer which you can
view when you want to.

Brian


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RE: Dial on demand

2000-11-23 Thread Gordon Olson

What kind of traffic is being passed?  You can set it up so that ip traffic
or whatever traffic keeps the line up.
Or you can use "dialer idle-timeout 3600" command to specify the amount of
time the link is up after it comes up.

We use an access list to bring up a connection i.e. "dialer-list 1 protocol
ip permit" with this, any ip traffic will bring the link up and it will
remain up for 3600 seconds. This is how I have implemented dial on demand.
If you would like a sample config - shoot me an email.

Gordon

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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dial on demand


Hi all:

I need that 2 routers cisco don´t hung up the line, all the time must be
openened, and if one of them hung up the line, automatically call another
time.

How can I do this? Are there any command?

Thanks


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RE: annoying line after config t

2000-11-23 Thread Taylor, Don
Title: RE: annoying line after config t





I believe you want no logging console.


- Don


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Isn't there a command to suppress the annoying 00:01:35: %SYS-5-CONFIG_i:
Configured from console by console line and dramatic pause every time you
exit the config term? I was so happy to learn the no ip domain-lookup
command to suppress the pause every time you mistype a command, but this one
still stumps me. You help is appreciated. Thanks...
 - Dennis


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Re: WAN Protocols, Connection Oriented V Connectionless ?

2000-11-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hi,
   Does anyone have a link for a definitive comparison
between cnnection oriented versus connectionless WAN
Protocols ?

e.g SDLC, HDLC, HDLC (Cisco), LAPB, PPP.

I realise that SDLC, HDLC, LAPB, PPP are all in effect
the same frame format and I´m thinking they should all
be connectionless allowing higher level protocols like
TCP to provide the reliability.

If I read between the lines above, it sounds as if you believe 
transport should always provide the reliability.  Why? Why not?

Are there legitimate applications for unreliable transport and  for 
reliable data links?


I have some confusion though with the similarity with
IEEE 802.2, i.e I´ve read that PPP contains a control
field of 03 making it connectionless.

There are additional cases of 802.2.  Class 1 is indeed 
connectionless and unreliable. Class 2, which essentially is SDLC 
over LAN, is connection-oriented and reliable.

Additionally, the Manufacturing Automation Protocol suite has a 
variant, 802.2 class 3, which is connectionless but reliable (i.e., 
acknowledged datagram).  This is a very special application intended 
for real-time robot control, an application in which it would make no 
sense to route the traffic.


However, if an application used 02 in the control
field it could presumably be connection orientated.
i.e it has the ability to support both.

Yes, it could be connection-oriented. But what limitations would 
there be on windowing, given the current frame format?


Any thoughts ?

Regards,

Phil.

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RE: CCNP Study Guides

2000-11-23 Thread Keith J


I just bought the BSCN book from Cisco press...
There is no cd or sample test engines ...just the book

Keith J


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If you look on www.barnesandnobel.com they have the pack for the 2.0v but
you have to wait 1-2 weeks for delivery. but it you are able to spend the
extra $ I would suggest you get the individual books mainly cause they come
with test engines that will help in your studies and the library does not
come with CDs hope this helps

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Hello all,

I know there is a Cisco Press study pack available for CCNP V1.0, I have
been looking on Amazon for the new study pack but the info they provide is a
bit vague. Can anybody comment on whether the CCNP Study pack has been
updated for CCNP V2.0? Any other comments regarding this area would be
appreciated.


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Re: GRE VS. IPSEc

2000-11-23 Thread Adam Quiggle

Liwang,

You aren't comparing apples to apples in your questions.  Let me
see if I can shed some light on the subject.

IPSec is a VPN technology that is responsible for securing a data
stream between two VPN peers.  It does not provide multi-protocol
support, so if you need to transport anything other than IP, you will
need to use a GRE tunnel.  (assuming you only connect to the outside
world using IP)

A GRE tunnel does not provide any security.  It is a tunneling
protocol that can give you the illusion that two tunnel interfaces
are connected together.  You can then set attributes within those two
tunnel interfaces as if you they are directly connected to each other
(not everything, but most everything).  Thus, GRE tunnels do provide
multi-protocol support.

In order to determine which technology would be best suited for your
needs, your VPN business case should provide you with answers to the
following questions:

1) Are there just two sites that need to be connected together?
  (i.e. are there plans for a large scale deployment?)
2) Do you need encryption?
3) Do you need authentication?
4) Do you need to protect against a replay attack?
5) Who are you protecting your data from?

Cisco Encryption Technology (CET), which is frequently used with GRE
tunnels, is a precursor to IPSec and has been available since IOS 11.2.
While there are similarities between IPSec and CET, they do not provide the
same functionality.  This is why I asked the previous questions.  CET
can only encrypt your data streams, while IPSec can encrypt, authenticate
and provide protection against a replay attack.

CET does not provide for a Public Key Infrastrucutre (PKI) and thus if you had
100's of sites to connect, CET could become an administrative nightmare.
On the other hand, IPSec does provide for a PKI which can ease administrative
burdens, but can give you a whole different set of problems.  For example, who
administers the Certificate Authority server and where do they get their 
authority.
This is important if it is an Extranet VPN.  In an Intranet VPN this is not 
nearly
as important since most Companies can inherently trust themselves (notice
I said MOST not ALL ;-).

CET is fairly simple to setup, especially since it only encrypts your
data streams.  IPSec, has a tremendous amount of flexibility and as we all
know the more flexibility a technology has, the more complicated it gets.
IPSec can take a while to understand all of the underlying technology, but
it can give you an extremely secure environment.

Personally, assuming that:

1) We want a simple Intranet VPN protecting our data crossing the public 
Internet
2) We aren't protecting trade secrets worth millions of dollars
3) There are no plans on increasing the number of VPN connections

I would go with a GRE tunnel with CET.  If any of the above criteria aren't 
met
I would go with IPSec.

HTH,
AQ


At 08:46 AM 11/23/00, Liwanag, Manolito wrote:
I have a remote site that I want to connect to our central site that has a
PIX.  I was thinking of using IPSec with context based access control.  But
I was wondering if GRE is just as good ? ( to Qualify - reliable, easy to
set up, secure and can handle plenty of tunnels) Can anyone advise ?

Manolito


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RE: GRE VS. IPSEc

2000-11-23 Thread Urooj's Hi-speed Internet

Great explanation!!! Adam Quiggle.

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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 1:13 PM
To: Liwanag, Manolito; 'Cisco Group Study'
Subject: Re: GRE VS. IPSEc


Liwang,

You aren't comparing apples to apples in your questions.  Let me
see if I can shed some light on the subject.

IPSec is a VPN technology that is responsible for securing a data
stream between two VPN peers.  It does not provide multi-protocol
support, so if you need to transport anything other than IP, you will
need to use a GRE tunnel.  (assuming you only connect to the outside
world using IP)

A GRE tunnel does not provide any security.  It is a tunneling
protocol that can give you the illusion that two tunnel interfaces
are connected together.  You can then set attributes within those two
tunnel interfaces as if you they are directly connected to each other
(not everything, but most everything).  Thus, GRE tunnels do provide
multi-protocol support.

In order to determine which technology would be best suited for your
needs, your VPN business case should provide you with answers to the
following questions:

1) Are there just two sites that need to be connected together?
  (i.e. are there plans for a large scale deployment?)
2) Do you need encryption?
3) Do you need authentication?
4) Do you need to protect against a replay attack?
5) Who are you protecting your data from?

Cisco Encryption Technology (CET), which is frequently used with GRE
tunnels, is a precursor to IPSec and has been available since IOS 11.2.
While there are similarities between IPSec and CET, they do not provide the
same functionality.  This is why I asked the previous questions.  CET
can only encrypt your data streams, while IPSec can encrypt, authenticate
and provide protection against a replay attack.

CET does not provide for a Public Key Infrastrucutre (PKI) and thus if you
had
100's of sites to connect, CET could become an administrative nightmare.
On the other hand, IPSec does provide for a PKI which can ease
administrative
burdens, but can give you a whole different set of problems.  For example,
who
administers the Certificate Authority server and where do they get their
authority.
This is important if it is an Extranet VPN.  In an Intranet VPN this is not
nearly
as important since most Companies can inherently trust themselves (notice
I said MOST not ALL ;-).

CET is fairly simple to setup, especially since it only encrypts your
data streams.  IPSec, has a tremendous amount of flexibility and as we all
know the more flexibility a technology has, the more complicated it gets.
IPSec can take a while to understand all of the underlying technology, but
it can give you an extremely secure environment.

Personally, assuming that:

1) We want a simple Intranet VPN protecting our data crossing the public
Internet
2) We aren't protecting trade secrets worth millions of dollars
3) There are no plans on increasing the number of VPN connections

I would go with a GRE tunnel with CET.  If any of the above criteria aren't
met
I would go with IPSec.

HTH,
AQ


At 08:46 AM 11/23/00, Liwanag, Manolito wrote:
I have a remote site that I want to connect to our central site that has a
PIX.  I was thinking of using IPSec with context based access control.  But
I was wondering if GRE is just as good ? ( to Qualify - reliable, easy to
set up, secure and can handle plenty of tunnels) Can anyone advise ?

Manolito


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Re: Dial on demand

2000-11-23 Thread Tony van Ree

I assume you are using ISDN  and IP but no matter you can do similar for other 
protocols.

Set the dialer idle timeout to 200 or so.

Router#(config-if)dialer idle-timeout 200

Ensure you have something set to make the call for example,

Router#(config)dialer-list "dialer group number" protocol ip permit

If the routers are often not in use and/or you are not using a routing protocol. ie 
you are using a static route to talk between the routers set a routing protocol on.

Router#(config)router rip

You really need all of that plus your interface configs.

the book Building Cisco Remote Access Networks is full of good stuff.  I would say 
that for people working in an access environment the BCRAN is a must.

Keep smilin'

Tony van Ree (Teunis)
Tasmania
Australia.

On Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 05:37:45 PM, Paco García wrote:

 Hi all:
 
 I need that 2 routers cisco don´t hung up the line, all the time must be
 openened, and if one of them hung up the line, automatically call another
 time.
 
 How can I do this? Are there any command?
 
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Re: GRE VS. IPSEc

2000-11-23 Thread Billha

Excellent reading !


Adam Quiggle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Liwang,

 You aren't comparing apples to apples in your questions.  Let me
 see if I can shed some light on the subject.

 IPSec is a VPN technology that is responsible for securing a data
 stream between two VPN peers.  It does not provide multi-protocol
 support, so if you need to transport anything other than IP, you will
 need to use a GRE tunnel.  (assuming you only connect to the outside
 world using IP)

 A GRE tunnel does not provide any security.  It is a tunneling
 protocol that can give you the illusion that two tunnel interfaces
 are connected together.  You can then set attributes within those two
 tunnel interfaces as if you they are directly connected to each other
 (not everything, but most everything).  Thus, GRE tunnels do provide
 multi-protocol support.

 In order to determine which technology would be best suited for your
 needs, your VPN business case should provide you with answers to the
 following questions:

 1) Are there just two sites that need to be connected together?
   (i.e. are there plans for a large scale deployment?)
 2) Do you need encryption?
 3) Do you need authentication?
 4) Do you need to protect against a replay attack?
 5) Who are you protecting your data from?

 Cisco Encryption Technology (CET), which is frequently used with GRE
 tunnels, is a precursor to IPSec and has been available since IOS 11.2.
 While there are similarities between IPSec and CET, they do not provide
the
 same functionality.  This is why I asked the previous questions.  CET
 can only encrypt your data streams, while IPSec can encrypt, authenticate
 and provide protection against a replay attack.

 CET does not provide for a Public Key Infrastrucutre (PKI) and thus if you
had
 100's of sites to connect, CET could become an administrative nightmare.
 On the other hand, IPSec does provide for a PKI which can ease
administrative
 burdens, but can give you a whole different set of problems.  For example,
who
 administers the Certificate Authority server and where do they get their
 authority.
 This is important if it is an Extranet VPN.  In an Intranet VPN this is
not
 nearly
 as important since most Companies can inherently trust themselves (notice
 I said MOST not ALL ;-).

 CET is fairly simple to setup, especially since it only encrypts your
 data streams.  IPSec, has a tremendous amount of flexibility and as we all
 know the more flexibility a technology has, the more complicated it gets.
 IPSec can take a while to understand all of the underlying technology, but
 it can give you an extremely secure environment.

 Personally, assuming that:

 1) We want a simple Intranet VPN protecting our data crossing the public
 Internet
 2) We aren't protecting trade secrets worth millions of dollars
 3) There are no plans on increasing the number of VPN connections

 I would go with a GRE tunnel with CET.  If any of the above criteria
aren't
 met
 I would go with IPSec.

 HTH,
 AQ


 At 08:46 AM 11/23/00, Liwanag, Manolito wrote:
 I have a remote site that I want to connect to our central site that has
a
 PIX.  I was thinking of using IPSec with context based access control.
But
 I was wondering if GRE is just as good ? ( to Qualify - reliable, easy to
 set up, secure and can handle plenty of tunnels) Can anyone advise ?
 
 Manolito
 
 
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Re: CCNP Study Guides

2000-11-23 Thread Tony van Ree

I found the new stuff in our local bookshop in my part of the world.  So I would guess 
it should be available in yours.

I does look similar to the v1 but of course with the new stuff.  Even the BCSN is now 
there.


Tony van Ree (Teunis)
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia

On Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 04:22:23 PM, Andy Kirkby wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I know there is a Cisco Press study pack available for CCNP V1.0, I have
 been looking on Amazon for the new study pack but the info they provide is a
 bit vague. Can anybody comment on whether the CCNP Study pack has been
 updated for CCNP V2.0? Any other comments regarding this area would be
 appreciated.
 
 
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Whats Up Gold

2000-11-23 Thread Krishna Shankar



Hi All

Thanks for suggesting me whats up gold software. 


I would like to ask you is there any other product 
available who can compete whats up gold


thanks in 
advance..


Re: re:cciebootcamp

2000-11-23 Thread Kevin Wigle

I read it very carefully which is why I replied.

And it's always easy to say let's stop this thread here when another reply
doesn't suit you.

You quoted my "break the law" comment as if it was wrong to do so and all I
have said is that normal people in this day and age know that such activity
is illegal - not just with programs/CDs but most other things you actually
pay for.  Your general comments about how you have done it and probably how
we all have done it supports my comment on "Everybody does it so it's ok".
If you have done it how can you say you're opposed to it? (at least
publicly), in a debate/discussion you can't have it both ways.

If your comments were aimed at the "looser" poster it would have been nice
if you attached your reply to that post or at least qualified your remarks.

I am very opposed to the "benefit of the doubt" idea (not your comment) as
that says to me that the general techie population isn't very aware of the
very basic protections afforded original work.

I don't believe that is the case.  Especially in this forum where just about
everyone knows what products are out there and who they benefit and
especially who created them.  Although this is a large list, the technology
we represent is a specialized niche and we all know each other (almost).

Finally, if you can't stand the fire - don't jump in.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher J. Dosch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: re:cciebootcamp


 I guess you didn't read my e-mail very carefully, I said "I DON'T agree
 with the illegal pirating of software or other material."  I too have
 invested thousands of dollars in my training and certifications.  Where
did
 you see "Everybody does it so it's ok" I don't see that anywhere.  Further
 more the personal attack statement was directed to the quote "Looser" that
 was from someone else!  Sorry for the misunderstanding.  I just think we
 shouldn't be so quick to lash out at people, what would have been wrong
with
 a simple explanation of the license agreement and a "this could get you
into
 trouble" statement.  Anyway enough of this thread, lets move on to the
real
 reason were here, helping one another get through the lab and everyday
 troubleshooting.

 Chris


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Kevin Wigle
 Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:23 PM
 To: Christopher J. Dosch; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: re:cciebootcamp


 I was going to pass on this thread but since you insist by quoting me.

 Try to think a bit further than "everybody does it so its ok".  If that
was
 mans credo where would we be now?  Why bother having laws at all?

 Why bother working hard to accomplish something if someone else can just
buy
 it, or trade for it?

 I suppose you agree with students buying term papers too, or people buying
 these "university degrees" through the mail, or falsifying your resume.
 Where does it stop?

 The cciebootcamp material aside, it is plain for most thinking people that
 this type of behavior robs the authors of the income they need to continue
 to provide quality material.

 In the Cisco community, we need quality material to meet the demands of a
 difficult curriculum.

 Cheapening the worth of the materials we need to make that difficult
journey
 only serves to cheapen the certification process.  It is one thing to
depend
 on the CCIE lab to keep the pretenders at bay but why should we encourage
 them along the way?  Who wants to wear letters like CCDP/CCNP if they have
 become worthless?

 And just what was the personal attack I am being accused of anyway?  By
 merely stating that the activity would be illegal - is a personal attack?
 My God!  quick!  empty the jails!!

 Kevin Wigle


 - Original Message -
 From: "Christopher J. Dosch" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 22 November, 2000 19:45
 Subject: RE: re:cciebootcamp


  I agree with Laurel, personal attacks should be avoided!  I DON'T agree
  with the illegal pirating of software or other material but I will have
to
  admit, I'm guilty in some form or another, whether it be a friend that
 just
  gave me a copy of some software, or I burned a CD for a backup copy.  I
  would also be willing to bet these people who publicly attack others for
  "breaking the law" have also illegally burned a couple of CD's or some
 other
  form of material!  I think we all have in some way or another!
 
  My $.02
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Laurel Redd
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 6:59 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: re:cciebootcamp
 
 
  Yeah that and distributing copies of burned software, making copies of
 music
  to give to friends.  Hey we all make mistakes.  Maybe this person didn't
  know I sure didn't.  I personally 

RE: Whats Up Gold

2000-11-23 Thread James Woloszyn



Yes,

Its 
called HP Openviewbut is 500 times more of a mission to set up 
and modify

  -Original Message-From: Krishna Shankar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 3:29 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Whats Up 
  Gold
  Hi All
  
  Thanks for suggesting me whats up gold software. 
  
  
  I would like to ask you is there any other 
  product available who can compete whats up gold
  
  
  thanks in 
advance..


Re: basic questions in config

2000-11-23 Thread Tony van Ree

In the switches it allows one to turn on or off the WEB management functions.  I 
assume it is the same in your device.

To look at the equipment via a web interface makes it nice but be aware of any 
security type issues.

Teunis

On Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 01:09:05 PM, Brian wrote:

 On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Brian Dellong wrote:
 
  in the router config what does this stand for
 
  ip htpp server
 
 its "ip http server", it allows you to access ther outer via http, and
 imho is a bad idea in a production enviroment.
 
 brian
 
 
 
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CIPT 2.0 - flapping CAT 6608

2000-11-23 Thread peter whittle

Hi,

I am working towards CIPT 2.0 (Cisco Call Manager v3.0) exam.

I have a CAT 6K in the core with 6608 (8 port E1 blade) as per the CIPT
LABs.

The problem is that the 6608 resets itself after about 40 S, making it
very difficult to complete a call over the E1 link.

It seems to help if I disable the unused (un-terminated) E1 ports.

However, the 6608 still resets itself all be it not quite so frequently.

I have tried a 2nd SUP 1A 2GE card, a different PSU and a different 6608

blade - all without success!

Any ideas?

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RE: BSCN/Routing 2.0 Test Question

2000-11-23 Thread Pickett, Mike
Title: BSCN/Routing 2.0 Test Question



I'm 
not trying to start a fight or anything, but i laugh everytime i hear someone 
say you will live by subnetting, in 5 years its never been an 
issue,

see 
ya


  -Original Message-From: Fernandez, Raul 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 2:10 PMTo: Pickett, 
  Mike; Jim Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: BSCN/Routing 
  2.0 Test Question
  Well, I believe you dont use subnetting 
  enough then if you think a calculator is needed. Once in the industry you will 
  live by it and you should be able to do it in your head for the most part. 
  Even VLSM which is just the subnetting of subnets. Forget calcs its not that 
  difficult. 
  
  Sincerely, Raul
  
-Original Message-From: 
Pickett, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
Jim Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
Wednesday, November 22, 2000 1:18 PMSubject: RE: BSCN/Routing 
2.0 Test Question


took it this morning and passed with a 759, not 
awful for doing it in 10 days. There was one subnetting question about 
# of host, no big deal, and there was some on vlsm and summarization, but 
very easy questions on it. now about that bottom line you wrote.i 
can think of nothing worse than live to subnet, : ), thats what calculators 
are for



  -Original Message-From: Jim Erickson 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 
  2000 11:01 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: 
  BSCN/Routing 2.0 Test Question
  I don't remember much straight-up subnetting, 
  but if you read the exam objectives, this exam does cover VLSM and route 
  summarization. If you have trouble doing 'normal' subnetting, these will 
  kill you. 
  
  Learn to subnet, live to subnet, love to 
  subnet!
  
  ---JRE---
  
""Pickett, Mike"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
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Hey, 
Just wondering if anyone knows how much subnetting there 
is on this test, with questions such as determine the # of 
networks/host/broadcast address of a given ip address
thanks! 
Mike Pickett Enterprise Network 
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RE: IP Address Calculation [1:1010]

2000-11-23 Thread JL

It's important to remember your default mask for all 3 address ranges when
looking at a question like this. A class B address has a default mask of 16
bits, so if " You have an IP address of 172.16.4.58 with a 12-bit subnet
mask." you would add an additional 12 bits to the default mask and from
there determine your valid hosts. 16 bits (default mask) + 12 bits
(additional bits) = 28 = 255.255.255.240; then 256 - 240 = 16. You will have
valid ranges in multiples of 16, 1-16, 17-32, 33-48, 49-64, etc... you do
have to remember to leave out the high and low addresses  (network and
broadcast) leaving 14 valid host id's per subnet. Using a 172.16.4.58/28
notation would accomplish the same thing and is just an easier way to say "I
have a class B address with a 12 bit subnet mask". I personally struggled
with subnetting before it finally clicked, it's just important to remember
that there are only just so many combinations available. I would suggest
approaching this from multiple different angles until you find the one that
clicks for you, once it does you'll be amazed at how simple it all seems.

Gragg Vaill
MCP CCNA
NOS Contractor
Sprint ION NOC
Kansas City, Ks.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Timothy R Estes
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: IP Address Calculation [1:1010]


Group,

That's pretty confusing. (IMHO). If we are going to refer to subnet masks
with the /30 notation, then we need to stick to it. How would we know if
someone meant with, or without the default mask included?


my $0.02

Timothy Estes
CCNA
Tampa FL

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 Hi,

 It's important to understand the wording

 172.16.4.58 is a Class B address.  A subnet is the 'borrowed bits' from
the
 host portion of the address. In this case it is stated as being 12bits

 So by default it has a 16 bit network mask a Class a has 8 and a Class C
24

   255  255   00
       = 16Bit netmask
 |---| |---|
  network  host

   255  255  255  240
       = 16bit netmask + 12bit subnet mask
+
 4bit host portion
 |---| |---||--|
  networksubnet  host


 172.16.4.58 255.255.255.240 is the ip address and network mask

 (anyone got a better way of explaining this bit?)
 As networks must start on a border of the subnet that they are divisible
by
 (anyone got a better way of explaining this bit?)

  we can figure out the the network address for this IP address with this
 subnet mask starts at 172.16.4.48 (this is not a host address it's a
 network/cable/segment address) first available host address is 172.16.4.49
 your network size is 16 IP addresses so counting from and including
 172.16.4.48 you reach 172.16.4.63.  The last address of the network is
 discarded as being a host address as well as this will be used as the
 broadcast address for the network so the available IP's assignable to
hosts
 are 172.16.4.49-62

 That explanation probably sounds as clear as mud but hopefully it's
helpful.
 It's important to read the questions carefully for the syntax they use and
 how it is applied to the subject.

 Trav.

  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Thursday, 23 November 2000 3:46 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: IP Address Calculation [1:1010]
 
 
  Hi, and I am kinda lost with the following question on CCNA
  sybex book.
  It's on the Ch4 Review question, and says
 
  You have an IP address of 172.16.4.58 with a 12-bit subnet
  mask. What are
  your valid hosts?
 
  The answer to this question is 172.16.4.49 to 172.16.4.62
  but I can never get this result,
 
  Can someone help me on this, explaining the logic behind it?
 
  Thanks
 
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Whats Up Gold

2000-11-23 Thread Krishna Shankar



Hi all 


Is there any good competetor product for Whats Up 
Gold..If yes please tell me 


thanks in advance


RE: CCNP Study Guides

2000-11-23 Thread Faxon, James

Keith, 
i am not sure what book you got but if you check this site out they are
saying the new individual cisco books are comming with CDs??

it will be the 4th book down but pls let me know if you bought this book and
it does not really come with a cd cause i have been waiting for the routing
book just for thier cd. pls let me know

http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?userid=1L7634KFERmscs
sid=WRD=ccnpOPR=ASRT=SSAT=26

-Original Message-
From: Keith J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 12:45 PM
To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
Subject: RE: CCNP Study Guides



I just bought the BSCN book from Cisco press...
There is no cd or sample test engines ...just the book

Keith J


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Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:25 AM
To: 'Andy Kirkby'
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If you look on www.barnesandnobel.com they have the pack for the 2.0v but
you have to wait 1-2 weeks for delivery. but it you are able to spend the
extra $ I would suggest you get the individual books mainly cause they come
with test engines that will help in your studies and the library does not
come with CDs hope this helps

-Original Message-
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Hello all,

I know there is a Cisco Press study pack available for CCNP V1.0, I have
been looking on Amazon for the new study pack but the info they provide is a
bit vague. Can anybody comment on whether the CCNP Study pack has been
updated for CCNP V2.0? Any other comments regarding this area would be
appreciated.


Andy Kirkby



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RE: CCNP Study Guides

2000-11-23 Thread Keith J

cisco press bscnisbn 1578702283   no cd

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Faxon, James
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 1:32 PM
To: 'Keith J'
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Subject: RE: CCNP Study Guides


Keith,
i am not sure what book you got but if you check this site out they are
saying the new individual cisco books are comming with CDs??

it will be the 4th book down but pls let me know if you bought this book and
it does not really come with a cd cause i have been waiting for the routing
book just for thier cd. pls let me know

http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?userid=1L7634KFERmscs
sid=WRD=ccnpOPR=ASRT=SSAT=26

-Original Message-
From: Keith J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 12:45 PM
To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com
Subject: RE: CCNP Study Guides



I just bought the BSCN book from Cisco press...
There is no cd or sample test engines ...just the book

Keith J


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Faxon, James
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:25 AM
To: 'Andy Kirkby'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: CCNP Study Guides


If you look on www.barnesandnobel.com they have the pack for the 2.0v but
you have to wait 1-2 weeks for delivery. but it you are able to spend the
extra $ I would suggest you get the individual books mainly cause they come
with test engines that will help in your studies and the library does not
come with CDs hope this helps

-Original Message-
From: Andy Kirkby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:22 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: CCNP Study Guides


Hello all,

I know there is a Cisco Press study pack available for CCNP V1.0, I have
been looking on Amazon for the new study pack but the info they provide is a
bit vague. Can anybody comment on whether the CCNP Study pack has been
updated for CCNP V2.0? Any other comments regarding this area would be
appreciated.


Andy Kirkby



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Re: Whats Up Gold

2000-11-23 Thread Andy Walden



Big Brother is excellant.

http://www.bb4.com/



On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Krishna Shankar wrote:

 Hi all 
 
 
 Is there any good competetor product for Whats Up Gold..If yes please tell me 
 
 
 thanks in advance
 

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Home CCNP lab

2000-11-23 Thread Michael Ross



G Day


I am currently looking at setting up a home lab to 
self study CCNP. I would be most appreciative if any one would be able to assist 
me
by advising what equipment would be required and 
avaiable to carry out most of the labs. 

I am in Australia and am willing to purchase second 
hand equipment. Hopefully the Aussie dollar will improve for exchange 
rates.


Regards,

Michael.









Looking Glass

2000-11-23 Thread Austin

What is a looking glass and what is it used for?



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Windows CE and Telnet

2000-11-23 Thread Austin

Is there any telnet application that I can load on a Windows CE HandPC?
I need this so I can have telnet access when I do not have my laptop with
me.


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RE: IP Address Calculation [1:1010]

2000-11-23 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Mitsunori:

I was looking through the Sybex CCNA Study Guide 2nd edition, and couldn't
find the question you reference--I assume it's from a different book in
their CCNA series...

I recently completed a project with Sybex that is due out in January.  The
one thing my editor and I really worked on was ensuring that the terminology
used was correct and that didn't confuse the test taker.  In my opinion,
when I read "12-bit subnet mask" I assume exactly that -- there are 12 bits
in the subnet mask.  If I as the author of the test question wanted you to
calculate a subnet where you would tack on 12 bits of subnetting to the
subnet mask, I would use the terminology "12 bits of subnetting".  Travis
was on the right track when he said that "a subnet is the 'borrowed bits'".
Those borrowed bits are "the bits of subnetting".

Often you can deduce the response being sought by looking at the options
available.  In this case, the author of the question is looking for a 28 bit
subnet mask response.  Same applies for whether when determining the number
of networks or hosts available, whether ip subnet zero is expected as a
response or not.  For the CCNA exam, the formula to calculate hosts is
always 2^n-2 (no ip subnet zero).  It's really unfortunate that a question
such as this exists, but sometimes we authors don't think about
terminology...  I got caught on BRI - I thought it was Basic Rate ISDN.  My
editor pointed out BRI is actually Basic Rate Interface.  I checked with
CCITT (the organization responsible for ISDN standards).  Sure enough, she
was correct!

As an author, I feel that it's very important for authors to think about how
someone less experienced will interpret a question.  In this case, I'd say
Sybex dropped the ball - but as long as they keep the editor I worked with
on the CCNA Virtual Test Center project, I'd expect the number of errors or
unclear statements to decrease drastically.  If Sybex can keep people THAT
good (and as long as my editor IS the editor), I'd definitely recommend
their future Cisco reference materials!

As you work through your CCNA, a great reference is certificationzone.com.
CertificationZone strives for an extremely high level of technical accuracy
and that really benefits the beginner because you DON'T learn things that
are wrong.  Been there, done that--it's no fun.  It's so hard to unlearn
things you've learned wrong...  I've also heard good things about ccprep.com
(to plug someone I'm not affiliated with...)  Yes, both sites charge for
their services, but you get what you pay for with Internet sites...


  -- Leigh Anne


-Original Message-
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JL
Sent: November 23, 2000 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: IP Address Calculation [1:1010]


It's important to remember your default mask for all 3 address ranges when
looking at a question like this. A class B address has a default mask of 16
bits, so if " You have an IP address of 172.16.4.58 with a 12-bit subnet
mask." you would add an additional 12 bits to the default mask and from
there determine your valid hosts. 16 bits (default mask) + 12 bits
(additional bits) = 28 = 255.255.255.240; then 256 - 240 = 16. You will have
valid ranges in multiples of 16, 1-16, 17-32, 33-48, 49-64, etc... you do
have to remember to leave out the high and low addresses  (network and
broadcast) leaving 14 valid host id's per subnet. Using a 172.16.4.58/28
notation would accomplish the same thing and is just an easier way to say "I
have a class B address with a 12 bit subnet mask". I personally struggled
with subnetting before it finally clicked, it's just important to remember
that there are only just so many combinations available. I would suggest
approaching this from multiple different angles until you find the one that
clicks for you, once it does you'll be amazed at how simple it all seems.

Gragg Vaill
MCP CCNA
NOS Contractor
Sprint ION NOC
Kansas City, Ks.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Timothy R Estes
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 8:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IP Address Calculation [1:1010]


Group,

That's pretty confusing. (IMHO). If we are going to refer to subnet masks
with the /30 notation, then we need to stick to it. How would we know if
someone meant with, or without the default mask included?


my $0.02

Timothy Estes
CCNA
Tampa FL

""Travis O'Hara""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi,

 It's important to understand the wording

 172.16.4.58 is a Class B address.  A subnet is the 'borrowed bits' from
the
 host portion of the address. In this case it is stated as being 12bits

 So by default it has a 16 bit network mask a Class a has 8 and a Class C
24

   255  255   00
       = 16Bit netmask
 |---| |---|
  network  host

   255  255  255  240
   

RE: BGP - maximum-list

2000-11-23 Thread Yee, Jason

Well you can always have a inbound  prefix-list at your side to prevent the
swamping right?


correct me if I am wrong


Jason 

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BGP - maximum-list


Has anyone used the maximum-prefix command on a cisco running BGP?

It is supposed to keep a neighbor from going crazy and swamping your router 
with too many routes by limiting the number of routes that can be learned by

the router.

What would be a good number to set that at to allow a full BGP table, plus 
growth, and still protect the router.

Or does no one use it?
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Re: Looking Glass

2000-11-23 Thread Paul Borghese

Usually it is a way to run non-privileged commands on a router.  Go to
http://nitrous.digex.net and you may access routers that are in select
locations on the internet.

Take care,

Paul Borghese

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CID beta gone?

2000-11-23 Thread ERIC BRATAGER

I went to the Cisco website to get the information regarding this beta, but 
it is no longer listed.  Are they no longer offering this beta or am I just 
looking in the wrong place?
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Re: Looking Glass

2000-11-23 Thread Tony van Ree

It allows one to look through the Net.

I often use them when looking for a fault for example.

I have a client call in they cannot get stuff from the "States" to "Australia".  I 
would log into a looking glass say in the US and perform a traceroute back to the 
network in Australia.

These are very handy tools.  The also identify various AS's etc.

Teunis
Hobart,Tasmania
Australia.
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setting username and passwords for router logon in telnet

2000-11-23 Thread suaveguru

hi anyone

knows what's the command to set username and password
for router logon for telnet



suave guru

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Async backup to ISDN link

2000-11-23 Thread Peter McDonald

Hi All,

Could anyone supply me with a sample config or give me some pointers on
configuring a 2610 to provide modem backup to a 64/128k isdn link. The isdn
has to use a fixed ip address supplied by one isp and the aysnc modem has to
use a dynamically assigned ip address from a completely different isp. I
want to use nat to translate to private inside addresses. The async needs to
automatically take over if the isdn link goes down and needs to drop once
the isdn comes back up. I only have an IP IOS to play with. Any help would
be greatly appreciated.

Thanks 

Peter 

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Re: Scripts for IOS upgrades

2000-11-23 Thread Robert Hanley

You may want to look into this:

Nortel Networks Optivity Network Configuration System

http://www.nortelnetworks.com/products/01/unifiedmanagement/network/opt_ncs.html

--- Tammy Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 All,
 We support over 500 components and different models
 of Cisco hardware.  We need
   to upgrade IOS levels in a fast way.
 I would imagine using some type of script with
 checks and balances would do the
   trick.
 
 Has any one used such a creature...?
 Where could I find a creature like this as fast,  as
 fast can be...?
 
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Re: setting username and passwords for router logon in telnet

2000-11-23 Thread Tony van Ree

Try

this assumes you already have an enable passowrd set.



router#(config)line vty 0 4
router#(config-line)password (password)
router#(config-line)cntl z

and

set the enable password
router#(config)enable password (password)

All this stuff is available on the Cisco CD and or config manuals.

Teunis
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia.


On Thursday, November 23, 2000 at 06:46:39 PM, suaveguru wrote:

 hi anyone
 
 knows what's the command to set username and password
 for router logon for telnet
 
 
 
 suave guru
 
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RE: Two DLCI numbers?

2000-11-23 Thread Yee, Jason

reason is because when building the frame-relay circuit you need to build
two parts , one is towards the customer from frame switch  the other one is
from provider's router to frame-switch , I normally use the same dlci nos
for the two parts but you can use different 



Jason

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Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 9:37 PM
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"jeongwoo park" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 Hi all
 While I was reading a cisco book, I came across the
 fact that DLCI number has only local significance
 because there might be more than one DLCI number
 associated with one pvc.
 Why would any pve in frame relay network have two DLCI
 numbers?
 I know that DLCI number is given by frame relay
 service provider.
 Can someone explain this?

 Thanks in adv.

 jeongwoo


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RE: Palmpilot question

2000-11-23 Thread Gardner, Donald/COR

I have had one for about a year and like it but coverage is spotty.  Many
dead areas in my building.  I will walk around and when I get close to an
outside window the thing goes off like crazy receiving all the emails sent
to me while in a dead zone (sounds like a Steven King movie, huh?).  At home
the coverage is poor as well so I get bombarded when I hit a good coverage
area when driving into work.  Seems like I spend most of the time deleting
mail I have already read...

Don

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Yes, I have used it for about 1 1/2 years. It is tied to my
work email,
Exchange\Outlook account. Works teriffic.

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Anybody know about the Blackberry???

Any other experiences with the Blackberry, good or bad..

Thanks,

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Anybody worked with an Emutel Lite ISDN switch

2000-11-23 Thread Dennis Laganiere

I'm setting this unit up for the first time and can't ping across.  Anybody
had any experience with this unit?  Let me know...
- Dennis

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Ethernet Frame (revisited for clarification)

2000-11-23 Thread John Green

this post(s) was posted a couple of days back and just
wanted some more list memebers to see if this correct
before we take this as gospel truth.
---
Neil Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To my knowledge serial links don't have a MAC
 address. Since most of them
 are either a point-to-point or point-to-multipoint
 there are some other type
 of mappings. If a serial port needs a MAC address it
 usuall uses one from
 another interface that has one (i.e. ethernet).
 Neil
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  hello all,
 
  I had somebody ask me what the source mac address
 would be on a frame sent
  across a serial link connected by to two routers,
   for example: Host A sends a packet to Host B,
 which is on the other side
 of
  the wan link. what would Host B see and what where
 would he send his reply
  to.(the local router or Host A or what)
 
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CCIE TroubleShooting Part

2000-11-23 Thread ShahzaD Ali
Title: Packeteer



Hi 
there,

Is it 
true you need to troubleshoot entirely a new scnerio when you 
aretrouble shooting in day 2? AnyOne knows about this?

Regards,

SchahzaD


Re: CCIE TroubleShooting Part

2000-11-23 Thread James Wilson

Depends on your paper, and thats going a little beyond the NDA.

At 11:45 PM 23/11/2000 -0800, ShahzaD Ali wrote:
Hi there,

Is it true you need to troubleshoot entirely  a new scnerio when you are 
trouble shooting in day 2? AnyOne knows about this?

Regards,

SchahzaD

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Re: CCIE TroubleShooting Part

2000-11-23 Thread Brian

On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, ShahzaD Ali wrote:

 PacketeerHi there,

 Is it true you need to troubleshoot entirely  a new scnerio when you are
 trouble shooting in day 2? AnyOne knows about this?

Yes.  It use to be they took your own scenerio and broke it.  That changed
a short time back.  now they reload your routers/switches with a different
config all together, and you have to fix it.

Brian



 Regards,

 SchahzaD


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Re: need Info about Syslog message

2000-11-23 Thread karthikeyan



Hi,
 Thanks for your reply. 

 I just want to know how to write 
a syslog server of our own.
 In which port the messages are 
thrown and what's the format of that messages.
 Where can i get info about 
this?

Thx,
karthi

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gordon Olson 
  To: karthikeyan ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 9:04 
  PM
  Subject: RE: need Info about Syslog 
  message
  
  You 
  can download and run a syslog server from your PC. I think Boson has one on 
  their web site - freebie. After installing it on your PC, (or you can run the 
  one available in most Unix systems) telnet to your router(s) and from a 
  config# type "logging 192.168.25.2" or the ip address of your PC in 
  which you installed the syslog server. 
  
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AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: need Info about 
Syslog message
Hai Group,
 I want to know about the 
format of syslog messages thrown by the devices.
I want to capture those messages and anlayse so 
can you give some info regading this.

Thx,
Karthi


How to Config DSU/CSU....

2000-11-23 Thread Minh Vu

Hi,

How do I config  EXTERNAL DSU/CSU on 1005 and 2501, I tried to simulate 56k
link across those two, but I couldn't find the command or how to config
this, before I was used cross-over between those two.
The cross-over between two DSU/CSU was working (its display linked @56k)

Here is my layout:

1005---DSU/CSUxDSU/CSU2501

DSU/CSU :Motorola 3512
IOS: 11.3.11aT1

here is "int s0" of 2501 config:
interface Serial1
 ip address 50.0.0.1 255.0.0.0
 no keepalive
! note I using HDLC encap.

!note with this 2501 config, I got 
Serial1 is up, line protocol is up


here is 1005 config
interface Serial0
 ip address 50.0.0.2 255.0.0.0
 no ip mroute-cache
 bandwidth 56000
 fair-queue 64 256 0
! also using HDLC encap.

!note with this 1005 config, I got
Serial0 is up, line protocol is down


Anyone have sample config on EXTERNAL DSU/CSU.  I looked thru cisco site,
they just have sample for INTERNAL only, which I don't have those command
(ie: service-module , and T1-controller).


Thanks

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No Subject

2000-11-23 Thread Tommy Lee

Hello

Have anybody integrated 3Com with CIsco on Dial
Backup.
I have integrated 3Com Router NetBuilder's Office
Connect with Cisco 3661 over dedicated link and it is
working fine. Now I am facing some problem on Dial
Backup from Cisco to 3Com or otherwise.

Any suggestions?


Thanks in advance.

T.Lee

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Re: BGP as-path access-lists

2000-11-23 Thread michael champion



The link that they have been giving you describes 
regular expression notation, but it is hard to see how it applies to routing. 


Use the command "show ip bgp regexp 
[regular-expression] to see what routes match. This will help you probably more 
than any tutorial on regular expressions, because regular expressions are not 
router-specific, and it is sometimes hard to figure out how this apples. 
However, every AS-PATH is in reality a regular expression, even though it shows 
up as a sequence of AS numbers in the bgp routing table.

Regards,

MLC



Andre Fecteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Hello, 

  I have been recently placed in the awkward position of making some changes 
  to our BGP configuration. The problem is that I understand how bgp works 
  for the main part, but I don't have any information on the meaning of the 
  symbols used in the following as-path access-lists (^, $, _, ., +, (), 
  *). Could someone tell me what each of them mean? Could 
  someone also point me to a Cisco page that explains them in detail? I 
  have been searching and cannot find anything except examples that include 
  these symbols. Unfortuneately these examples have not helped my 
  understanding. I have a good idea as to what they probably mean, but I 
  need to know their exact meaning. It is difficult to manage something 
  you don't have a clear understanding of! 
  ip as-path access-list 1 permit ^$ ip as-path access-list 
  4 permit ^(_6774) +$ ip as-path access-list 10 permit 
  .*5413$ ip as-path access-list 6 permit ^ (_3414) + 
  (_2423) +$ 
  HELP!!! Andre 


RE: a problem about dialing in the remote network

2000-11-23 Thread Gordon Olson

Tony,

Do you have access to the router? If you do, telnet to it then enter these
commands shown below.
DialBackup#term mon  (enter this)
DialBackup#debug modem  (enter this)
Modem control/process activation debugging is on (it will return this)
DialBackup#debug ppp authen  (tab)
DialBackup#debug ppp authentication  (it will return this)
PPP authentication debugging is on  (it will return this)
DialBackup#debug ppp neg  (tab)
DialBackup#debug ppp negotiation  (it will return this)
PPP protocol negotiation debugging is on  (it will return this)
DialBackup#

Now try dialing in and (keep your telnet session going) and you will see
things scroll across the screen, this will offer clues on what is going on,
are you being authenticated, why is the connection being dropped etc...

Good luck,

Gordon

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Tony van Ree
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 10:02 PM
To: Gordon Olson; cslx; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: a problem about dialing in the remote network


I'm not sure how to use this list as I am only new to this.

When a PC using Windows 98 type system as a dial-up connection it tries to
log onto the network using it WINS stuff.  Most of the time this is not
valid.  Not only does this cause a slowing down of the log on time but often
can cause your network connection to fail.

The best method is to turn off the login option in the dialup networking.

Tony van Ree
Tasmania
Australia

On Wednesday, November 22, 2000 at 09:33:21 PM, Gordon Olson wrote:

 Why don't you try running debug modem, debug ppp authen, debug ppp neg
while
 you are tring to dial in.  Make sure you have term mon running is
telneting
 into the router. This will give you a clue on where it is failing.

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 cslx
 Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 5:36 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: a problem about dialing in the remote network


 when a pc dialing the remote router(2620,and I have set the ASYNC/SYNC to
 ASYNC mode ),the pc says"state:it is checking the username and
password",and
 after a while,it says:"the remote computer that has been dialed doesnot
 response the network request",why?
 the configuration of the 2620 is :
 version 12.0
 service timestamps debug uptime
 service timestamps log uptime
 no service password-encryption
 !
 hostname router
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$7.sK$BGVU7JyVASh5OtT8Ek7856ER
 enable password 12345
 !
 username 123 password 0 123
 username abc password 0 abc
 memory-size iomem 20
 ip subnet-zero
 !
 !
 !
 !
 interface FastEthernet0/0
 ip address 10.1.2.3 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 !
 interface Serial0/0
 physical-layer async
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 peer default ip address 10.1.2.2
 ppp authentication pap
 !
 interface Serial0/1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 !
 interface Serial1/0
 ip address 10.1.2.42 255.255.255.248
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 !
 interface Serial1/1
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 shutdown
 !
 interface Serial1/2
 physical-layer async
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 peer default ip address 10.1.2.10
 ppp authentication pap
 !
 interface Serial1/3
 physical-layer async
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 peer default ip address 10.1.2.18
 ppp authentication pap
 !
 interface Serial1/4
 physical-layer async
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 shutdown
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 peer default ip address 10.1.2.26
 ppp authentication pap
 !
 interface Serial1/5
 physical-layer async
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 peer default ip address 10.1.2.34
 ppp authentication pap
 !
 interface Serial1/6
 physical-layer async
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 peer default ip address 10.1.2.42
 ppp authentication pap
 !
 interface Serial1/7
 physical-layer async
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0/0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 async dynamic routing
 async mode dedicated
 peer default ip address 10.1.2.50
 ppp authentication pap
 !
 router ospf 1
 redistribute static metric 10 subnets
 redistribute rip metric 10 subnets
 network 10.1.2.40 0.0.0.7 area 5
 !
 router rip
 redistribute static
 redistribute ospf 1
 passive-interface FastEthernet0/0
 passive-interface Serial0/1
 passive-interface Serial1/0
 passive-interface Serial1/2
 network 10.0.0.0
 !
 ip classless
 ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 10.1.2.41
 no ip http server
 !
 !
 line con 0
 transport input none