Browsing [7:48257]
Dear Friends, I need your urgent help on the following problem, I have a Network 192.168.16.0/24, with an application server 192.168.16.2/24, there is a mobile users on my firm who are dialing from their Notebooks to the internet using normal analog dial-up modems, from internet I need these users to browse my LAN servers especially the application server, The problem is that I can not browse the network using network neighborhood on my desktop, Any help? Kindest Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48257t=48257 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Browsing [7:48257]
Ekkk !!! Is this a VPN question (how to make this work) or is this a Microsoft network question where NetBIOS or WINNS is not working properly ??? Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mamoon Dawood Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 2:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Browsing [7:48257] Dear Friends, I need your urgent help on the following problem, I have a Network 192.168.16.0/24, with an application server 192.168.16.2/24, there is a mobile users on my firm who are dialing from their Notebooks to the internet using normal analog dial-up modems, from internet I need these users to browse my LAN servers especially the application server, The problem is that I can not browse the network using network neighborhood on my desktop, Any help? Kindest Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48258t=48257 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: A problem on AS5300 [7:36986]
Mr, Sadjadi, Hello, how are you? I seek you for my problem. I phoned to your mobile unfortunately I heared you went to canada. If you desire contact with me please male me to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best Regards M.Alibegli Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48259t=36986 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipv6 question [7:48129]
Well, I don't know that I would have used the word 'unfortunate' to describe it. The fact is, why should you, me, or any country spend valuable resources on doing something unless it's pressing? If the United States isn't even close to running out of addresses (and we aren't), then why should we worry about it now? It's more efficient to spend valuable time and money on more pressing matters. An analogy would be the provable reserves of, say, natural resources. Take oil, for an example. In the history of the oil industry, there never has been at any time more than a 20-30 year supply of proven reserves. In the 1960's, there was a 25 year supply of known oil, and today there's still about a 25 year supply of known oil. This is simply because once you've found a certain amount of oil, it's not economical to spend money to find even more. It's costly to drill and explore. Similarly, it's costly to migrate to ipv6 and develop new tools and skills. So why should the US migrate until it really is close to running out of ipv4 addresses (which, like I said, it is not even close)? Scott Nelson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Not with the USA fat and happy with enough v4 addresses for awhile. Plus rfc1918, NAT and CIDR has helped a lot. It's unfortunate but, until we here in the USA get hit with the neccessity to move to IPv6, we are going to be slow to adopt it. http://isp-planet.com/business/2002/ipv6_wait.html Scotty supernet wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... My company would merge with another company soon. Both companies use 10.0.0.0/8 subnet, so we have to change one of them. I'm thinking maybe it's a good chance to go ipv6. What do you guys think on this? Will ipv6 go enterprise soon? Thanks. Yoshi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48260t=48129 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MC3810 voice config [7:48261]
Hi all, I know jack about voice :) I get the error on one of my MC3810's that the Voice didnt Initialise... I have a AVM with FXS/EM. 12.1 IOS, 64meg ram and 16meg flash. Can anyone give me some sample config to ensure that the the ports are ok? a lead as to what the error means? Cheers Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48261t=48261 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921]
Hey Guys, May I make a suggestion. Let's meet on Tuesday night or Wednesday night. Some of us will be arriving late Monday night and will miss the event. Of coure Monday is the welcome reception, so it might be a good time to just say hello to your fellow GS'ers. Paul - Original Message - From: Philip Jache To: Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:46 AM Subject: RE: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921] I will be there and would like to meet up with any members. Phil = Original Message From R. Benjamin Kessler = Anyone from the list going? Is there going to be a GroupStudy gathering? _ Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48262t=47921 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Beta a true test? [7:48221]
Hey Priscilla, Yeah, the CCIE Beta... I guess there was a wrench in the sprocket of my brain that caused me to omit that piece of info. I think the test they chisel out of that beta will be harder as well. Thanks for the comments. Karl. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48263t=48221 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921]
Tuesday night sounds like a better plan. We have customer appreciation night at Universal on Wednesday evening. Or we could do Thu. night, if everyone will be around. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921] Hey Guys, May I make a suggestion. Let's meet on Tuesday night or Wednesday night. Some of us will be arriving late Monday night and will miss the event. Of coure Monday is the welcome reception, so it might be a good time to just say hello to your fellow GS'ers. Paul - Original Message - From: Philip Jache To: Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:46 AM Subject: RE: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921] I will be there and would like to meet up with any members. Phil = Original Message From R. Benjamin Kessler = Anyone from the list going? Is there going to be a GroupStudy gathering? _ Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48264t=47921 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
%Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? Thanks In Advance Phil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48265t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Interesting terminal server issue [7:48247]
Hey guys, Good call Jason, added 'no exec' on the term server and haven't seen the issue since. Thanks Don On 7 Jul 2002 01:39:00 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason) wrote: Try adding the no exec command on lines 1 through 8: Line 1 8 transport input all no exec Sometimes an exec process can be opened backwards to your terminal server by a noisy line. The no exec command prevents this from happening... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48266t=48247 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Browsing [7:48257]
you should use vpn to do it. TZ 7 Jul 2002 06:17:46 - J1, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mamoon Dawood) P4AK: -- Dear Friends, I need your urgent help on the following problem, I have a Network 192.168.16.0/24, with an application server 192.168.16.2/24, there is a mobile users on my firm who are dialing from their Notebooks to the internet using normal analog dial-up modems, from internet I need these users to browse my LAN servers especially the application server, The problem is that I can not browse the network using network neighborhood on my desktop, Any help? Kindest Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48267t=48257 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
just did some looking around on CCO. checking the current state of the art for IOS images for the 25xx routers we all know and love so dearly. it's looking like the images are getting so bloated that pretty soon they will exceed the physical limits of the router flash and dram. this could be disastrous to all us lab rats ;- of course, the images would be MUCH smaller if Cisco were to remove the code for things like Apollo, Vines, DEC, IPX, and IGRP.. :- however, it is probably not very easy to remove code, and why would they bother? so at what point do all of us students get screwed -when the required images become so large that the 25xx is no longer viable? images capable of running BGP, EIGRP, ISIS, RIP, and DLSw+ seem to require an enterprise version. some of those images are pushing up over 16 megs now. see what I mean? BTW - anyone checked the auction prices for 25xx equipment lately? Token ring stuff is going for well below 200. Even the ethernet stuff - 2501's and 2513's - seem to be going for less than 400. big change in the buyer's favor in the last year or so. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48268t=48268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipv6 question [7:48129]
Let me make a couple of observations. First, IPv6 is the standard for a few niches, such as 3rd generation wireless and the infrastructure for HDTV. If you will interface with these sectors, you will need to use it. I think it's also being used in some new air traffic control systems. Second, if a company has labs, IPv6 is probably close enough that it's worth doing some familiarization. Third, in the specific example, where there is overlap between two 10/8 domains, the only practical way to get around massive renumbering is double NAT (i.e., Enterprise 1 to DMZ, DMZ to Enterprise 2). I'd want to look at specifics, but v6 might, in some cases, be useful for the DMZ. Fourth, there are still only partially understood routing aspects. Autoaddressing is more flexible in V6 than in V4, including changing carriers. Multihoming with multiple carriers is not a completely solved problem. Don't always think of V6 as a way to get more addresses. It also has functionality that V4 does not. Indeed, the general pattern in V6 deployment is likely to use static addresses much less than V4, including the high-level prefix that may be aggregated at the carrier or set of carrier levels. At 10:19 AM + 7/7/02, nrf wrote: Well, I don't know that I would have used the word 'unfortunate' to describe it. The fact is, why should you, me, or any country spend valuable resources on doing something unless it's pressing? If the United States isn't even close to running out of addresses (and we aren't), then why should we worry about it now? It's more efficient to spend valuable time and money on more pressing matters. An analogy would be the provable reserves of, say, natural resources. Take oil, for an example. In the history of the oil industry, there never has been at any time more than a 20-30 year supply of proven reserves. In the 1960's, there was a 25 year supply of known oil, and today there's still about a 25 year supply of known oil. This is simply because once you've found a certain amount of oil, it's not economical to spend money to find even more. It's costly to drill and explore. Similarly, it's costly to migrate to ipv6 and develop new tools and skills. So why should the US migrate until it really is close to running out of ipv4 addresses (which, like I said, it is not even close)? Scott Nelson wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Not with the USA fat and happy with enough v4 addresses for awhile. Plus rfc1918, NAT and CIDR has helped a lot. It's unfortunate but, until we here in the USA get hit with the neccessity to move to IPv6, we are going to be slow to adopt it. http://isp-planet.com/business/2002/ipv6_wait.html Scotty supernet wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... My company would merge with another company soon. Both companies use 10.0.0.0/8 subnet, so we have to change one of them. I'm thinking maybe it's a good chance to go ipv6. What do you guys think on this? Will ipv6 go enterprise soon? Thanks. Yoshi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48269t=48129 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
Try no logging console . This should prevent error messages, interfaces coming up down from popping up in console screen. %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? Thanks In Advance Phil _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48270t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some IETF work of interest [7:48271]
The BGP convergence team (including Cisco and Juniper) in the IETF has just posted the latest version of the BGP Benchmarking Terminology draft, which we think is about ready for Informational RFC -- it will go out for WG and IESG Last Call in the next couple of weeks. A good deal of the work clarified what we found to be ambiguous BGP terminology that is operationally important. It may help some of you with understanding. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-conterm-02.txt There is a related draft for OSPF, in a little earlier phase of development: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bmwg-ospfconv-term-00.txt There are also methodology drafts for both protocols. I've just started on an applicability protocol draft, which hopefully will be cross-protocol. As soon as I have something a little more together, I'll send it in as an I-D, and may have a rough draft mailed to the working group and posted on the Gett research website. -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48271t=48271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
just did some looking around on CCO. checking the current state of the art for IOS images for the 25xx routers we all know and love so dearly. it's looking like the images are getting so bloated that pretty soon they will exceed the physical limits of the router flash and dram. this could be disastrous to all us lab rats ;- of course, the images would be MUCH smaller if Cisco were to remove the code for things like Apollo, Vines, DEC, IPX, and IGRP.. :- however, it is probably not very easy to remove code, and why would they bother? I discussed this with developers at various times, and their basic rationale is that user-compiled or -linked executables introduce so many variables that they couldn't possibly pretest everything. Look at the problem with .dll's and the like. It is routine to have user organizations custom-link mainframe operating systems, but their vendors assume the organization has a system programming staff (typically at a higher training level than system administrators.). so at what point do all of us students get screwed -when the required images become so large that the 25xx is no longer viable? images capable of running BGP, EIGRP, ISIS, RIP, and DLSw+ seem to require an enterprise version. some of those images are pushing up over 16 megs now. see what I mean? If it's run-from-flash, you are probably screwed. If not, giving up on flash and always TFTP loading is an alternative. BTW - anyone checked the auction prices for 25xx equipment lately? Token ring stuff is going for well below 200. Even the ethernet stuff - 2501's and 2513's - seem to be going for less than 400. big change in the buyer's favor in the last year or so. -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48272t=48268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
That's not the underlying problem...You still usually want to see error msgs etc. Have you tried removing all the tftp stuff then rebooting? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of YASSER ALY Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265] Try no logging console . This should prevent error messages, interfaces coming up down from popping up in console screen. %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? Thanks In Advance Phil _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48273t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
You still can log error messages using logging buffered . I believe he doesn't have any lines in his configuration that include pointing to a TFTP server as per his words. Yasser That's not the underlying problem...You still usually want to see error msgs etc. Have you tried removing all the tftp stuff then rebooting? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of YASSER ALY Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265] Try no logging console . This should prevent error messages, interfaces coming up down from popping up in console screen. %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out)Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ???I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes.I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things.The running config does not contain any TFTP commands.Any ideas ???Thanks In AdvancePhil _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48275t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
no service config is what you're after. Can't remember if that's hyphenated or not. Gaz Phil Lorenz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? Thanks In Advance Phil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48274t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Phil Lorenz wrote: %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? I had the same problem with an 827-4v that I setup a few months ago. I ended up just ignoring it, for lack of finding a solution. Good luck! Thanks In Advance Phil Ashley -- Ashley Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48276t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
Sorry - just scrolled down to the rest of your post. Are you sure no service config is in your config. Never seen that happen once it's there. Paste your config. Gaz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... no service config is what you're after. Can't remember if that's hyphenated or not. Gaz Phil Lorenz wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? Thanks In Advance Phil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48277t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Networkers Get Together [7:48278]
Attending Networkers in Orlando? We are having two informal socials for GroupStudy members! Monday: 5:00 P.M. outside of room Sun B - immediately after the CCIE Power session. This should be before the Cisco welcome reception. Maybe we will go to the reception or light dinner. Tuesday: Dinner 7:00 PM at Sunset Sams Fish Camp. Please RSVP to Paul Borghese ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) if you plan to attend. If you see a guy wearing a GroupStudy.com polo shirt, that is probably me so please say hi. See ya there! Paul Borghese Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48278t=48278 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921]
I talked with Donald Brown and I believe we will do both events as some of us can not attend one or the other. Monday night after the CCIE Power session in room Sun B. This will be nice as we can then decide to go to the reception or dinner. Then on Tuesday dinner at Sunset Sams fish camp. Write to me personally if you plan to make the dinner as I need to make reservations. See ya there! Paul - Original Message - From: Christopher Supino To: 'Paul Borghese' ; Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 10:11 AM Subject: RE: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921] Tuesday night sounds like a better plan. We have customer appreciation night at Universal on Wednesday evening. Or we could do Thu. night, if everyone will be around. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Borghese Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921] Hey Guys, May I make a suggestion. Let's meet on Tuesday night or Wednesday night. Some of us will be arriving late Monday night and will miss the event. Of coure Monday is the welcome reception, so it might be a good time to just say hello to your fellow GS'ers. Paul - Original Message - From: Philip Jache To: Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:46 AM Subject: RE: OT - Networkers, Orlando [7:47921] I will be there and would like to meet up with any members. Phil = Original Message From R. Benjamin Kessler = Anyone from the list going? Is there going to be a GroupStudy gathering? _ Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48279t=47921 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
True you can, but turning off console logging is treating the symptom of the problem, not fixing the problem itself. Gaz is correct. Use 'no service config' in global config mode to make it so the router doesn't attempt to load a config from TFTP. Mike W. YASSER ALY wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You still can log error messages using logging buffered . I believe he doesn't have any lines in his configuration that include pointing to a TFTP server as per his words. Yasser That's not the underlying problem...You still usually want to see error msgs etc. Have you tried removing all the tftp stuff then rebooting? Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of YASSER ALY Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265] Try no logging console . This should prevent error messages, interfaces coming up down from popping up in console screen. %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out)Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ???I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes.I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things.The running config does not contain any TFTP commands.Any ideas ???Thanks In AdvancePhil _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48280t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VoIP Question [7:48281]
Hi, I am setting up a VoIP network with a gatekeeper and a some gateways. This network is generally used for terminating calls. I want to hide the IP address of my gateways from the customers who are sending me(originating calls) traffic. Any ideas how I can hide the gateways from my customers? Thanks in advance, Hamid Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48281t=48281 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP community Q [7:48282]
_200_ works ok on 12.1.15, so I guess it's a bug. Yes, ^200_ would work for routes coming directly from 200, but that's not the wording of the requirement... Anthony Pace wrote: Would ^200_ work? On Thu, 04 Jul 2002 07:09:53 -0300, Carlos G Mendioroz said: Omer, _ should also match ^, so this is not it, or if it is, it's a bug :-) [See the same page you referred to, _1300_ does account for ^1300(space).] Also, be careful with ^200.*, you would match 2001 100 5 which is not what is asked for, and you would loose points, or permit transit, depending on the task at hand :-) Regards, Omer Ansari wrote: Annu, you are using _200_ to match a route coming directly from 200. i see AS200 is adjacent. try ^200.* see bgp example at the end of the link: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/ftersv_c/ftsappx/tcfaapre.htm let us know if this helps? On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Annu Roopa wrote: Group, I have a community related question and the scenario is as follows.What am i doing wrong ? Scenario is: (AS100) r11-r8-r10(AS 200) iBGPeBGP There are some Networks (196.196.10.0/175.10.10.0 etc)coming via R10 to R8.I want to add a community string of 100:88 to all routes containing AS 200 and send it to R11 from R8.But somehow its not adding it rather adding 100:900 when i see it on R11. Whats wrong with my logic ? Here are my configs and show commands. R8#sr Building configuration... Current configuration: hostname r8 ! router bgp 100 bgp router-id 8.1.1.1 network 8.1.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 neighbor 11.1.1.1 remote-as 100 neighbor 11.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0 neighbor 11.1.1.1 next-hop-self neighbor 11.1.1.1 send-community neighbor 11.1.1.1 route-map address out neighbor 180.10.10.1 remote-as 200 neighbor 180.10.10.1 ebgp-multihop 255 neighbor 180.10.10.1 update-source Loopback0 ! ip bgp-community new-format ip as-path access-list 11 permit _200_ ip as-path access-list 11 deny .* ! route-map address permit 10 match as-path 11 set community 100:88 ! route-map address permit 20 set community 100:900 -- r8#sh ip bgp regexp _200_ BGP table version is 12, local router ID is 8.1.1.1 Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, best, i - internal Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete Network Next Hop Metric LocPrf Weight Path * 10.1.1.0/24 180.10.10.1 0 200 300 i *175.10.10.0/24 180.10.10.10 200 300 i * 180.10.10.0/24 180.10.10.1 0 0 200 i * 190.10.10.0/24 180.10.10.1 0 200 300 400 i* 192.168.1.0 180.10.10.1 0 200 300 i * 196.196.1.0 180.10.10.1 0 200 300 i --- R11#b 196.196.1.0 BGP routing table entry for 196.196.1.0/24, version 40 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Advertised to non peer-group peers: 1.1.1.2 200 300 8.1.1.1 (metric 129) from 8.1.1.1 (8.1.1.1) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, best Community:100:900 R11#b 175.10.10.0 BGP routing table entry for 175.10.10.0/24, version 38 Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table) Advertised to non peer-group peers: 1.1.1.2 200 300 8.1.1.1 (metric 129) from 8.1.1.1 (8.1.1.1) Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, internal, best Community: 100:900 --- Failed to troubleshoot it.Anyone with ideas. = Thanks in advance for ur time and replies. Annu. __ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com _ Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. _ Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. -- Carlos G MendiorozLW7 EQI Argentina _ Commercial lab list: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/commercial.html Please discuss commercial lab solutions on this list. -- Anthony Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://fastmail.fm - Sent .002 seconds ago -- Carlos G MendiorozLW7 EQI Argentina Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48282t=48282
Re: Some IETF work of interest [7:48271]
Howard, Thanks for the links. I must say that this does clarify a lot things(about BGP definitions) and gives me so much to think about. I'll be reading this one a couple more times, before I start asking a bunch of questions..:- Very Nice draft. Now the simple folk can get a better understanding of what's really happening. With all this talk of planes lately, I wonder if anyone has defined the various planes on which the human brain works? In thinking about it.. I don't want to know. Thanks Nigel - Original Message - From: Howard C. Berkowitz To: Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 12:38 PM Subject: Some IETF work of interest [7:48271] The BGP convergence team (including Cisco and Juniper) in the IETF has just posted the latest version of the BGP Benchmarking Terminology draft, which we think is about ready for Informational RFC -- it will go out for WG and IESG Last Call in the next couple of weeks. A good deal of the work clarified what we found to be ambiguous BGP terminology that is operationally important. It may help some of you with understanding. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-conterm-02.txt There is a related draft for OSPF, in a little earlier phase of development: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bmwg-ospfconv-term-00.txt There are also methodology drafts for both protocols. I've just started on an applicability protocol draft, which hopefully will be cross-protocol. As soon as I have something a little more together, I'll send it in as an I-D, and may have a rough draft mailed to the working group and posted on the Gett research website. -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48283t=48271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3524xl switch does not boot after frmware update... [7:48284]
update of 3524XL firmware results in boot problems In a network with twelve 3524xl switches and one 3508xl we updated to the recent firmware image c3500XL-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC3b. This was successfull with 6 switches 3524 and the 3508; they are working fine, showing up the features of the new image, no known bugs of the former version etc.. But 2 switches do not boot up after transferring the new image, showing this error message: C2900XL POST: Testing Switch Core: Passed Error with Switch Core BIST test Phase 0. Returns: Test Complete Low : 0x03FF, Test Complete High : 0x3372 Test Phase Low: 0x0100, Test Phase High : 0x Test Phase Third : 0x, Test Complete Third : 0x0060 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Switch Core: Failed . All switches were purchased at the same time, they have nearly subsequent serial numbers. All were updated with the same procedure. All of them work fine till day of updating. Is there anybody to tell us,: - what is the reason for the failure and how to avoid this - how can we update dead switches any hint appreciated Alec von Fersen, Frankfurt, Germany Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48284t=48284 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3524xl switch does not boot after frmware update... [7:48285]
Those 2 switches are 2900s, not 3500s. C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Switch Core: Failed Chris Alec von Fersen wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... update of 3524XL firmware results in boot problems In a network with twelve 3524xl switches and one 3508xl we updated to the recent firmware image c3500XL-c3h2s-mz.120-5.WC3b. This was successfull with 6 switches 3524 and the 3508; they are working fine, showing up the features of the new image, no known bugs of the former version etc.. But 2 switches do not boot up after transferring the new image, showing this error message: C2900XL POST: Testing Switch Core: Passed Error with Switch Core BIST test Phase 0. Returns: Test Complete Low : 0x03FF, Test Complete High : 0x3372 Test Phase Low: 0x0100, Test Phase High : 0x Test Phase Third : 0x, Test Complete Third : 0x0060 C2900XL POST FAILURE: Testing Switch Core: Failed . All switches were purchased at the same time, they have nearly subsequent serial numbers. All were updated with the same procedure. All of them work fine till day of updating. Is there anybody to tell us,: - what is the reason for the failure and how to avoid this - how can we update dead switches any hint appreciated Alec von Fersen, Frankfurt, Germany Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48285t=48285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipv6 question [7:48129]
I still stand by my original convictions, which is that ipv6 will not be adopted en-masse by regular American enterprises until and unless it is economically justified to do so - and there is nothing unfortunate about this, that's just the way economics works (economics being the study of the allocation of scarce resources). In particular, ipv6 has to offer benefits that exceed the costs of implementing it, and at this time, in the US, it does not, except for niche applications. Things like auto-addressing, integrated encryption, etc. etc. are nice, but cheap work-arounds for these kinds of things have already been developed for ipv4. I think it is difficult to make the case that American enterprises should be spending resources on migrating to ipv6 when the benefits of doing so are not dramatic. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48286t=48129 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 2505 IOS upgrade [7:48287]
Folks, I bought a 2505 router for training purposes. It has IOS v 11.1(3) and 14.3 MB RAM. Is there an economical way to upgrade the IOS a few versions and the amount of RAM if needed?? Is it worth the effort if I only use to for configuration practice for the CCNP?? -edgar NC - CCNA, CCDA Stop Parental Deliquency!! Before their children kill you! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48287t=48287 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
BTW - anyone checked the auction prices for 25xx equipment lately? Token ring stuff is going for well below 200. Even the ethernet stuff - 2501's and 2513's - seem to be going for less than 400. big change in the buyer's favor in the last year or so. I paid nearly $1K for my 2505 two years ago. And I was planning on selling it and retiring. Hi tech is losing value. -edgar Stop Parental Deliquency!! Before their children kill you! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48288t=48268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
Phil Lorenz wrote: %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. Did you try 2611(config)# no service-config. In other words, make sure you're in config mode when you enter the command. That may be obvious, but sometimes we miss the obvious. ;-) The router decides that it should try to go to a TFTP server after it SLARPs from another router. This is very common in labs, for example. If your 2611 was connected via a serial cross-over cable to another router that was already configured, your router can SLARP. From then on it decides to try TFTP. It's can be very annoying. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? Thanks In Advance Phil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48289t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New 2600 and %Error opening tftp [7:48265]
Oh, and one amendment. There is no hyphen in service config. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: Phil Lorenz wrote: %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://255.255.255.255/msb3100_v1_silver_c01 (Timed out) %Error opening tftp://172.30.100.34/network-confg (Timed out) Any idea where this crap-ola is coming from or what it is ??? I just pasted a config into a new 2611 and this appears @ the console every few minutes. I disabled service config (2611# no service config) but that did not change things. Did you try 2611(config)# no service-config. In other words, make sure you're in config mode when you enter the command. That may be obvious, but sometimes we miss the obvious. ;-) The router decides that it should try to go to a TFTP server after it SLARPs from another router. This is very common in labs, for example. If your 2611 was connected via a serial cross-over cable to another router that was already configured, your router can SLARP. From then on it decides to try TFTP. It's can be very annoying. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com The running config does not contain any TFTP commands. Any ideas ??? Thanks In Advance Phil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48290t=48265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just did some looking around on CCO. checking the current state of the art for IOS images for the 25xx routers we all know and love so dearly. it's looking like the images are getting so bloated that pretty soon they will exceed the physical limits of the router flash and dram. this could be disastrous to all us lab rats ;- I know this is going to sound so bad when I say this. But maybe that's the point - to cut down on the number of lab-rats. Yeah yeah, I know a bunch of you are going to read that and immediately jump all over me. You're going to say things like People should be allowed to learn what they want and Information wants to be free and that kind of thing. All I have to say is this. Learning how to be, say, a doctor is not free - it's unbelievably expensive. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor is allowed to be one. You can't just decide that you want to learn surgery and then just expect somebody to give you a bunch of cadavers so you can start cutting them up. You can't just walk into a hospital and demand that somebody start teaching you medicine. And this is true of just about any profession - law, investment-banking, pharmacy, engineering, pro-athlete, you name it. The fact is, all professions operate on the principle of exclusion. Yes, I know that sounds rough, but that's life. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor gets to be a doctor. Not everybody who wants to play pro-football actually gets to play pro football. And, yes, not everybody who wants to be a network guy (especially the senior network guy) actually gets to be the network guy. Somewhere along the line, exclusion has to take place for that profession to remain attractive. If it's medicine we're talking about, then the exclusion takes place in getting admitted to med school, and then the grueling years of medical training which has the effect of excluding people who aren't mentally tough enough to make it. If it's pro sports, it's the harsh selectivity odds of being good enough to play professionally. And everybody accepts this. For example, you don't see any huge outcry for med schools to use open-admissions policies, where anybody who applies is automatically accepted. So the point is this. If network engineering is to remain a viable profession, then exclusion has to take place somewhere. You can debate how this exclusion is to take place. Should it be done through the lab-exam (which is what it was, say, in 1995)? Should it be done through years of actual high-end practical networking experience (which is what it was before the CCIE program, and what it is returning to, now that the lab-rat phenomena has sprung into being)? Should it be some other way? But, somehow and somewhere, it has to be done. of course, the images would be MUCH smaller if Cisco were to remove the code for things like Apollo, Vines, DEC, IPX, and IGRP.. :- however, it is probably not very easy to remove code, and why would they bother? so at what point do all of us students get screwed -when the required images become so large that the 25xx is no longer viable? images capable of running BGP, EIGRP, ISIS, RIP, and DLSw+ seem to require an enterprise version. some of those images are pushing up over 16 megs now. see what I mean? See above. BTW - anyone checked the auction prices for 25xx equipment lately? Token ring stuff is going for well below 200. Even the ethernet stuff - 2501's and 2513's - seem to be going for less than 400. big change in the buyer's favor in the last year or so. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48291t=48268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some IETF work of interest [7:48271]
Howard, Do you have URL for a terminology document on IS-IS that is similar to the BGP and OSPF drafts? You also mention that there are methodology and applicability drafts for BGP and OSPF. What about IS-IS? Do you think these would be good background material for the CCIE qualifying exam? -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48292t=48271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
That is why the CCIE program should adopt a similar rule to the CISSP. You must have 3 years (as of this January it's 4 years) of verifiable experience in security to take the CISSP. Cisco should require that candidates have at least 4 or 5 years of Cisco experience prior to qualifying for the lab. If a person lies they are automatically forbidden from ever attempting the CCIE again. The lab rat problem would be for the most part solved. You might have a few liars, but when those people blow up someone's network they could be reported to Cisco so that they can investigate if the person lied about their experience. John Kaberna CCIE #7146 (R/S, Security) nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just did some looking around on CCO. checking the current state of the art for IOS images for the 25xx routers we all know and love so dearly. it's looking like the images are getting so bloated that pretty soon they will exceed the physical limits of the router flash and dram. this could be disastrous to all us lab rats ;- I know this is going to sound so bad when I say this. But maybe that's the point - to cut down on the number of lab-rats. Yeah yeah, I know a bunch of you are going to read that and immediately jump all over me. You're going to say things like People should be allowed to learn what they want and Information wants to be free and that kind of thing. All I have to say is this. Learning how to be, say, a doctor is not free - it's unbelievably expensive. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor is allowed to be one. You can't just decide that you want to learn surgery and then just expect somebody to give you a bunch of cadavers so you can start cutting them up. You can't just walk into a hospital and demand that somebody start teaching you medicine. And this is true of just about any profession - law, investment-banking, pharmacy, engineering, pro-athlete, you name it. The fact is, all professions operate on the principle of exclusion. Yes, I know that sounds rough, but that's life. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor gets to be a doctor. Not everybody who wants to play pro-football actually gets to play pro football. And, yes, not everybody who wants to be a network guy (especially the senior network guy) actually gets to be the network guy. Somewhere along the line, exclusion has to take place for that profession to remain attractive. If it's medicine we're talking about, then the exclusion takes place in getting admitted to med school, and then the grueling years of medical training which has the effect of excluding people who aren't mentally tough enough to make it. If it's pro sports, it's the harsh selectivity odds of being good enough to play professionally. And everybody accepts this. For example, you don't see any huge outcry for med schools to use open-admissions policies, where anybody who applies is automatically accepted. So the point is this. If network engineering is to remain a viable profession, then exclusion has to take place somewhere. You can debate how this exclusion is to take place. Should it be done through the lab-exam (which is what it was, say, in 1995)? Should it be done through years of actual high-end practical networking experience (which is what it was before the CCIE program, and what it is returning to, now that the lab-rat phenomena has sprung into being)? Should it be some other way? But, somehow and somewhere, it has to be done. of course, the images would be MUCH smaller if Cisco were to remove the code for things like Apollo, Vines, DEC, IPX, and IGRP.. :- however, it is probably not very easy to remove code, and why would they bother? so at what point do all of us students get screwed -when the required images become so large that the 25xx is no longer viable? images capable of running BGP, EIGRP, ISIS, RIP, and DLSw+ seem to require an enterprise version. some of those images are pushing up over 16 megs now. see what I mean? See above. BTW - anyone checked the auction prices for 25xx equipment lately? Token ring stuff is going for well below 200. Even the ethernet stuff - 2501's and 2513's - seem to be going for less than 400. big change in the buyer's favor in the last year or so. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48293t=48268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need insight in DLSW [7:48229]
Add Netbeui to your Windows clients on Ethernet. DLSW will bridge this and you should see some traffic. Robert Massiache wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi All I tried to perform DLSW in home lab, but with ethernet interfaces. Sh dlsw peers shows successfull 'connect' remoete peers. But I cannot reachablity or, Netbios reachablity or mac address in capablitues. Can any none clarify it? Thanks and regards _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48294t=48229 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Some IETF work of interest [7:48271]
Howard, Do you have URL for a terminology document on IS-IS that is similar to the BGP and OSPF drafts? There isn't any yet for IS-IS, although I think Manral and Russ are thinking about doing one. You also mention that there are methodology and applicability drafts for BGP and OSPF. What about IS-IS? Do you think these would be good background material for the CCIE qualifying exam? The BGP might or might not, but we consciously tried to make a number of concepts clearer than they are in RFC1771, which deal with where a BGP implementation puts selected or candidate routes, how routes get packed into updates, etc. It's not vendor-specific, although Cisco is participating. I'd have to think about the OSPF, as it's under more intense discussion. In many ways, it's harder to model the convergence time of an IGP than BGP. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48295t=48271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
not so long as Cisco is making a bundle selling CCIE study books and CCIE Lab slots. ;- Besides, the driver here is the channel partner situation, not the end user situation. As you recall, it was at the time stated that the primary reason for moving to the one day lab was to help out their channel partners. The unforeseen consequence of the one day lab seems to have been that the lab backlog is as long as ever. The CISSP folks finally got wise to the certification phenomenon in their field as well. I seem to recall seeing some study materials in Borders last time I was there. It is interesting that their response was to require more verifiable experience, rather than more money for their test ;- John Kaberna wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... That is why the CCIE program should adopt a similar rule to the CISSP. You must have 3 years (as of this January it's 4 years) of verifiable experience in security to take the CISSP. Cisco should require that candidates have at least 4 or 5 years of Cisco experience prior to qualifying for the lab. If a person lies they are automatically forbidden from ever attempting the CCIE again. The lab rat problem would be for the most part solved. You might have a few liars, but when those people blow up someone's network they could be reported to Cisco so that they can investigate if the person lied about their experience. John Kaberna CCIE #7146 (R/S, Security) nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just did some looking around on CCO. checking the current state of the art for IOS images for the 25xx routers we all know and love so dearly. it's looking like the images are getting so bloated that pretty soon they will exceed the physical limits of the router flash and dram. this could be disastrous to all us lab rats ;- I know this is going to sound so bad when I say this. But maybe that's the point - to cut down on the number of lab-rats. Yeah yeah, I know a bunch of you are going to read that and immediately jump all over me. You're going to say things like People should be allowed to learn what they want and Information wants to be free and that kind of thing. All I have to say is this. Learning how to be, say, a doctor is not free - it's unbelievably expensive. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor is allowed to be one. You can't just decide that you want to learn surgery and then just expect somebody to give you a bunch of cadavers so you can start cutting them up. You can't just walk into a hospital and demand that somebody start teaching you medicine. And this is true of just about any profession - law, investment-banking, pharmacy, engineering, pro-athlete, you name it. The fact is, all professions operate on the principle of exclusion. Yes, I know that sounds rough, but that's life. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor gets to be a doctor. Not everybody who wants to play pro-football actually gets to play pro football. And, yes, not everybody who wants to be a network guy (especially the senior network guy) actually gets to be the network guy. Somewhere along the line, exclusion has to take place for that profession to remain attractive. If it's medicine we're talking about, then the exclusion takes place in getting admitted to med school, and then the grueling years of medical training which has the effect of excluding people who aren't mentally tough enough to make it. If it's pro sports, it's the harsh selectivity odds of being good enough to play professionally. And everybody accepts this. For example, you don't see any huge outcry for med schools to use open-admissions policies, where anybody who applies is automatically accepted. So the point is this. If network engineering is to remain a viable profession, then exclusion has to take place somewhere. You can debate how this exclusion is to take place. Should it be done through the lab-exam (which is what it was, say, in 1995)? Should it be done through years of actual high-end practical networking experience (which is what it was before the CCIE program, and what it is returning to, now that the lab-rat phenomena has sprung into being)? Should it be some other way? But, somehow and somewhere, it has to be done. of course, the images would be MUCH smaller if Cisco were to remove the code for things like Apollo, Vines, DEC, IPX, and IGRP.. :- however, it is probably not very easy to remove code, and why would they bother? so at what point do all of us students get screwed -when the required images become so large that the 25xx is no longer viable? images capable of running BGP, EIGRP, ISIS, RIP, and DLSw+ seem to require an enterprise version. some of those images are
Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
Based on the company's focus, it's quite possible that people with a financial stake in cisco's future are more concerned about getting customers to purchase internetworking gear at rates similar to those experienced during the last decade. Since a lot of gear out there consists of 25xx series devices, I can see how forcing early replacement of those devices via obsolesence might become a significant priority, thereby allowing them to sidestep questions over whether or not their code is as efficient (in various senses of the word) as it could be (which, in turn, affects the hardware specifications that must be adhered to in order to run a given version of IOS). If a side consequence is that their certs carry more weight, I can't see how they wouldn't welcome that (while at the same time conspiring to divert a greater percentage of would-be candidates' incomes towards purchases of preparation materials that cisco directly profits from). Market forces will eventually bring about the exclusion processes referred to in this thread, the rest devolves to questions concerning how gracefully and by what causal mechanisms those changes come to pass. Anyone with better insight into Cisco's motivations priorities, please correct me. Experience requirements can probably help raise standards applied to certification candidates, but it's worth keeping in mind that plenty of IT jobs allow their holders to coast, earning years of experience without requiring that they noticeably improve or update their skill sets. - Original Message - From: Chuck To: Sent: 07 July 2002 8:13 pm Subject: Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268] not so long as Cisco is making a bundle selling CCIE study books and CCIE Lab slots. ;- Besides, the driver here is the channel partner situation, not the end user situation. As you recall, it was at the time stated that the primary reason for moving to the one day lab was to help out their channel partners. The unforeseen consequence of the one day lab seems to have been that the lab backlog is as long as ever. The CISSP folks finally got wise to the certification phenomenon in their field as well. I seem to recall seeing some study materials in Borders last time I was there. It is interesting that their response was to require more verifiable experience, rather than more money for their test ;- John Kaberna wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... That is why the CCIE program should adopt a similar rule to the CISSP. You must have 3 years (as of this January it's 4 years) of verifiable experience in security to take the CISSP. Cisco should require that candidates have at least 4 or 5 years of Cisco experience prior to qualifying for the lab. If a person lies they are automatically forbidden from ever attempting the CCIE again. The lab rat problem would be for the most part solved. You might have a few liars, but when those people blow up someone's network they could be reported to Cisco so that they can investigate if the person lied about their experience. John Kaberna CCIE #7146 (R/S, Security) nrf wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just did some looking around on CCO. checking the current state of the art for IOS images for the 25xx routers we all know and love so dearly. it's looking like the images are getting so bloated that pretty soon they will exceed the physical limits of the router flash and dram. this could be disastrous to all us lab rats ;- I know this is going to sound so bad when I say this. But maybe that's the point - to cut down on the number of lab-rats. Yeah yeah, I know a bunch of you are going to read that and immediately jump all over me. You're going to say things like People should be allowed to learn what they want and Information wants to be free and that kind of thing. All I have to say is this. Learning how to be, say, a doctor is not free - it's unbelievably expensive. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor is allowed to be one. You can't just decide that you want to learn surgery and then just expect somebody to give you a bunch of cadavers so you can start cutting them up. You can't just walk into a hospital and demand that somebody start teaching you medicine. And this is true of just about any profession - law, investment-banking, pharmacy, engineering, pro-athlete, you name it. The fact is, all professions operate on the principle of exclusion. Yes, I know that sounds rough, but that's life. Not everybody who wants to be a doctor gets to be a doctor. Not everybody who wants to play pro-football actually gets to play pro football. And, yes, not everybody who wants to be a network guy (especially the senior network guy)
Re: VoIP Question [7:48281]
NAT? If I remember correctly, you were using H.323, so it may not work. Try harp. Hamid wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am setting up a VoIP network with a gatekeeper and a some gateways. This network is generally used for terminating calls. I want to hide the IP address of my gateways from the customers who are sending me(originating calls) traffic. Any ideas how I can hide the gateways from my customers? Thanks in advance, Hamid Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48298t=48281 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VoIP Question [7:48281]
It's supposed to be HSRP, not harp. Steven A. Ridder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... NAT? If I remember correctly, you were using H.323, so it may not work. Try harp. Hamid wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, I am setting up a VoIP network with a gatekeeper and a some gateways. This network is generally used for terminating calls. I want to hide the IP address of my gateways from the customers who are sending me(originating calls) traffic. Any ideas how I can hide the gateways from my customers? Thanks in advance, Hamid Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48299t=48281 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
callmanager dial plan question [7:48300]
I'm trying to learn callmanager dial plan and got some questions, here is my scenario: 1. Within our Pleasanton campus, our number range is (925) 426-. Our RTP campus number range is (919) 685-. I want users at Pleasanton dial 6 to reach locally and 685 to reach RTP (because we have a lot of other offices, so minimum 7-digit is required for all offices except Pleasanton). The problem is users at RTP have to dial 685 to reach locally. Apparently, it's cumbersome. Is there anyway to get around this? 2. If we have 2 callmanger clusters, are the dial plans in 2 clusters related? How do I create relationship? Thanks. Yoshi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48300t=48300 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LEAP/ACS configuration [027] Session-Timeout [7:48301]
PROBLEM/QUESTION Users are currently authenticated by an ACS server when remotely accessing the network through a VPN. So their user accounts have been created and there is currently no value for [027]Session-Timeout RADIUS attribute. What will happen if I modify the [027]Session-Timeout RADIUS attribute for LEAP? Will the user's VPN sessions timeout? Basically, I want the same user to be able to be authenticated when remotely accessing the network (without their session timing out) and use LEAP for wireless authentication. Is there a way to do this? How is this normally setup? Thanks, Charlie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48301t=48301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: callmanager dial plan question [7:48300]
I'm new to this, but I'm willing to take a crack at it. 1) dial plans are local to the CM cluster, yes you should have an overall plan. 2) the route patterns work on a longest match basis. you should have a calling search space that includes your local users partition, and the associated dial pattern for RTP should be something like 6 for local, and a longer one for other locations. you may have to fool with your dial timeout. I believe the default is a few seconds wait before the CM decides you have stopped dialing. Either that or train your users to terminate all calls with the # 3) call my employer, who happens to be one of the top AVVID integrators in the country. ( I'm not part of that team, obviously ) We have a good group of CCIE's with extensive voice experience who will get it done for you. Open to correction where necessary. HTH Chuck supernet wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm trying to learn callmanager dial plan and got some questions, here is my scenario: 1. Within our Pleasanton campus, our number range is (925) 426-. Our RTP campus number range is (919) 685-. I want users at Pleasanton dial 6 to reach locally and 685 to reach RTP (because we have a lot of other offices, so minimum 7-digit is required for all offices except Pleasanton). The problem is users at RTP have to dial 685 to reach locally. Apparently, it's cumbersome. Is there anyway to get around this? 2. If we have 2 callmanger clusters, are the dial plans in 2 clusters related? How do I create relationship? Thanks. Yoshi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48302t=48300 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505]
Over here in South Africa, UUNET is claiming that they were not reliant on Worldcom for any financing, and that they (UUNET South Africa) have been profitable for the last 9 years or so and are still in the process of expanding... WorldCom's problems don't affect them ... Or so they say. Plus all of UUNET's Advertising still claims Cisco Powered Network UUNET, a truly good company from my experience with them. Thanks Manish -Original Message- From: Brian Lodwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 July 2002 18:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505] Don't confuse UUNet with WCOMs data networking division? UUNet is WorldCom, WorldCom is UUNet. All one big happy family right? A while back WorldCom finally stiff armed all UUNet people to fully integrate. Even to the point where you were not allowed to have your signature say UUNet on it it had to say WorldCom (and basically I think that was the day we lost control of the rudder and started heading towards that iceburg). WorldCom is Compuserve, UUNet, MFS, ANS, Rythms, and alot of others. I think this string is pretty silly. As if a carrier as big as WorldCom would be an all this or an all that shop. WorldCom is so huge there is no way you could catagorize it as a ___ shop. What Cisco router are you going to use to run DDCMP? We've got an entire network that runs a modified version of X.25 and the line protocol is called DDCMP. We've got like a bazillion routers out there (almost 30 billion ;-) and we've acquired like a bazillion different companies over the years. I see Junipers, Nortels, Lucents, Bays, Fujitsus, 3Coms, and a whole lotta Ciscos. I don't think the first guy can start counting his chickens right yet. I don't have any unrealistic ideas on what will happen to WorldCom, but even if banruptcy occurs I don't think we will just shut our doors and go home especially our backbone and managed data services. (Don't get me wrong though I'm definitely worried and am studying like a madman for my lab in August, and getting my resume out) I think it's terrible that something like this has happening to UUNet. UUNet was such a great company. An awesome backbone. We are one of the only backbones big enough and have enough traffic management charachteristics to be able to offer awesome SLA's from site to site through the internet. So many cool research projects going on for instance we have a multicast backbone, and an IPV6 backbone. All kinds of neat stuff. I've never learned so much. I think we are seeing the furthering of this industry coming to a screeching halt. My catch phrase is we might not do everything right here and might be a little screwed up here and there, but we are definitely the least screwed up ISP out there. This industry in my opinion is just asking for a replay of the auto industry a few years back. Japan comes in, takes this place, clips off all the fat, adds in alot of quality assurance teams and completely dominates the market. Ok I'm done, I'm sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now since that security guard down the hall is saying I am tresspassing since this building is no longer owned by WorldCom -kidding ;-) Brian From: deltan Reply-To: deltan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Off Topic - Cisco vis a vis World Com [7:47505] Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 03:48:57 GMT UUNet is a Cisco shop for sure (Canada and US). And don't confuse WCOM's data networking division with UUNet (WCOM's subsidiary in Internetworking). Those students might be talking about the data networking sidetrue or false, I don't know. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48304t=47505 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268]
And what ios version are the current lab routers? 12.1...see what I mean? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of nrf Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Off Topic - speculating on Lab equipment [7:48268] Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... just did some looking around on CCO. checking the current state of the art for IOS images for the 25xx routers we all know and love so dearly. it's looking like the images are getting so bloated that pretty soon they will exceed the physical limits of the router flash and dram. this could be disastrous to all us lab rats ;- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=48305t=48268 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
