RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]

2002-10-03 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

No, we were discussing the BSCI 640-901 exam. You're OK taking the 640-603
until 10/25 providing you registered for it by 9/13.

Shawn K.

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> 
> is 603 already abolished ?? am planning to take 603 next week, i thought
> it'll be change on OCT 25?
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> 
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> > You need to know IS-IS, BGP, EIGRP, and OSPF equally well for the exam
> > because each exam will be different. When I took my routing exam (the
> old
> > one), I had almost all OSPF (I think it was OSPF. I know it was very
> > one-sided on one of the routing protocols). Other people I talked with
> said
> > their exams were very one-sided on different routing protocols (one said
> > BGP, the other said EIGRP). I'm sure the new exam is the same way. You
> never
> > know what you're going to get!
> >
> > Shawn K.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Brandis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:49 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
> > >
> > > Wow, I am the opposite. I use OSPF as much as possible here, mainly
> due
> to
> > > the fact I had used it whilst in my early stages of networking. I
> really
> > > like OSPF and love how it it scales nicely in my networks. I honestly
> > > thought that a large portion of the routing test would be focused on
> OSPF.
> > > Guess I am wrong (again).
> > >
> > > Good luck and conratulations on your score.
> > >
> > > Hope the NZ Warriors have similar luck on Sunday night.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:24 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
> > >
> > >
> > > I sat this yesterday!
> > >
> > > It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better.
> > >
> > > Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to
> > > configure OSPF on one!
> > >
> > > I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the
> > > morning
> > > on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I
> fared
> > > better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my
> > > performance
> > > on IS-IS).
> > >
> > > It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very
> > > little
> > > on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still
> did
> > > ok. Never seen OSPF before or since!
> > >
> > > I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam
> > > guide.
> > > This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the
> > > course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much
> in
> > > the
> > > hour between 6am and 7am!
> > >
> > > IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of
> revision.
> > > Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have
> not
> > > prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed
> the
> > > book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the
> IS-IS
> > > questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should
> > > resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed!
> > >
> > > Hope this info is helpful
> > >
> > >
> > > Simon Dartford
> > > Design Engineer
> > > Advanced Solutions
> > > Telecom New Zealand
> > >
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> > > Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2002 10:35
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: ccnp routing [7:54579]
> > >
> > >
> > > i'm sitting in on the routing 901 bsci (new exam) next week...any good
> > > advice or look outs for the exam??  i took the global knowledge course
> 2
> > > weeks ago and have the older version of the boson routing for exam
> 603.
> > > should this be suffice. i heard the cisco press routing book is not a
> very
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RE: NAT [7:54838]

2002-10-03 Thread Lidiya White

it's on the router... Check 'nat on the stick' config examples. Traffic HAS
to go through a 'ip nat inside' and 'ip nat outside' interfaces to be
Natted. If it goes only through "ip nat inside" interface, Nat will not
happen...

-- Lidiya White


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Hosts files, or local dns server pointing to private ip address,
or
 use a pix firewall with the following command "alias (inside)
 255.255.255.255 which will  doctor the dns reply for you.

check out the following link...
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/alias.html

Brett spunt

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Subject: NAT [7:54838]


Hi All,

I am trying to set up NAT on a cisco 2600 router.  Everything seems to be
working except that I can not access resources on the inside using there
public IP address from the inside.  From the internet the router translates
the public addresses to private addresses, but from the inside I have to use
the private address to access any resource.  How can I get the router to
translate requests that originate from the inside?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.




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RE: PIX Scenerio [7:54824]

2002-10-03 Thread Lidiya White

Just use "static (inside, outside) 172.16.20.0 172.16.20.0 netmask
255.255.255.0"
and then create conduits for the type of traffic you want to allow from the
outside to the inside.

-- Lidiya White

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In this PIX Scenerio, What will be the best option.   Note: PIX is being
used between the two Private networks.  I am just treating the outside
interface as one of the users' subnets. I have 10 users on outside interface
(Network 192.168.40.0) want to have an acess to the some resources in the
inside (Network 172.16.20.0).  Instead of statically mapping each IP address
from the users to the inside resources, can I justdo this: static (inside,
outside) 192.168.40.0 172.16.20.0 netmask 255.255.255.0, and then apply
conduit For Example, conduit permit tcp host 192.168.40.5 (User's IP
address) 172.16.20.5 (File Server)  and so on, or will it be better to
statically map each user ip address to the resource ip address, and then
open the conduit  static (inside, outside) 192.168.40.5(user's computer)
172.16.20.5 (File Server) netmaks 255.255.255.255. I think I can't
statically map the actual user IP address.  I am gonna have to use an unused
IP address from the user's subnet (192.168.10.0).  Please let me know.
Thanks,


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RE: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732]

2002-10-03 Thread Amir Tahir

Cool. cong to you.
amir


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Re: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732]

2002-10-03 Thread Amir Tahir

hi, 
well as far as simulation Q is concerned .In exam i had only one Q &
that was a frame relay question. In routing i had one Question as well &
that was OSPF question.

I used simulation software at home but in exam it noo
it was a bad choice to put that type of format. it doesn't support anything.
If cisco want to have simulation questions thay should have a batter
simulation software. first in exan computer took long time to load that Q &
after that it was working very slow. anyway if you know how to
configure.U won't have any problem
amir


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RE: NAT [7:54838]

2002-10-03 Thread Paul Msava

Hi,
ip nat inside source static private public ip


./Msava



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Hi All,

I am trying to set up NAT on a cisco 2600 router.  Everything seems to be
working except that I can not access resources on the inside using there
public IP address from the inside.  From the internet the router translates
the public addresses to private addresses, but from the inside I have to use
the private address to access any resource.  How can I get the router to
translate requests that originate from the inside?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.




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RE: Visio 2k Stencils [7:54804]

2002-10-03 Thread Amnuay Mekchompu

The following link may help you on your request.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons1.zip
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons2.zip
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons3.zip
http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/503/icons4.zip

Amnuay Mekchompu
Tel : +66 (0) 2937 0800 ext. 494
Fax : +66 (0) 2937 0819

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>
> Anybody got stencils for catalyst 6513s and corresponding cards that
they
> can send me or know where I could get them?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mario Puras
> SoluNet Technical Support




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RE: Period to take ccnp tests [7:54848]

2002-10-03 Thread Gragido, William

There are only two other exams for the CIPTS bro, CVOICE and CIPT.  no no
time limit



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Guys, if one take a ccnp exam today, is there a time limit to take the other
3 exams or else the exam gets invalid?

Can someone help me?


tks a lot,

leo




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Period to take ccnp tests [7:54848]

2002-10-03 Thread Leonardo Rocha

Guys, if one take a ccnp exam today, is there a time limit to take the other
3 exams or else the exam gets invalid?
 
Can someone help me?
 
 
tks a lot,
 
leo




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Re: VPN tunnel with IPSec over GRE [7:54634]

2002-10-03 Thread nettable_walker

10/3/20029:45pm   Thursday

When I loook @ the link you referenced I can honestly see why I love Cisco &
truly regret working on Bay/Nortel routers & switches for 2 1/2 years before
ever touching Cisco & letting my ego headed boss bully me into getting the
Nortel Networks Certified Support Expert !
Try to find something like this link on Nortel's useless web site.  Try to
find out how to recover the password on theie ASN router by looking on thier
useless web site !
All they have is marketing.  Cisco tells us how to do the job.

Good Night
 wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I think the following URL could help:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/56.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Alaerte
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Richard Deal" @groupstudy.com em 01/10/2002
> 13:26:29
>
> Favor responder a "Richard Deal"
>
> Enviado Por:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Para:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:
>
> Assunto:Re: VPN tunnel with IPSec over GRE [7:54634]
>
>
> It's probably an MTU problem.
>
> I have an IPSec connection being tunneled via GRE, which in turn, is
> tunneled by another IPSec connection. Don't ask why I'm doing this :-) But
> we had to set the MTU down to 1320 to prevent fragmentation, and thus
> performance, issues.
>
> In your case, you might want to try using the extended ping with the "no
> fragment" option to determine which MTU size will work in your situation.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Richarde
> ""Thomas N.""  wrote in message
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> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am setting up a site-to-site VPN between 2 LANs using Cisco IOS VPN
> (Cisco
> > 2600 routers).  I could get the tunnel up and running between the two
> LANs
> > with IPSec over GRE so that I can run EIGRP.  Data transfer between 2
> LANs
> > across the tunnel looks OK, and all dynamic routes learned with EIGRP.
> > However, a problem come up when I put a Proxy Server on the first LAN
and
> > force Internet traffic from workstations from the second LAN to go out
> with
> > this Proxy server.  Workstations from the second LAN could browse
> Internet
> > across the tunnel to reach the Proxy server then hit the Internet;
> however,
> > the performance is very poor (seem like browsing over a 56k modem).  I
am
> > thinking this may be because of fragmentation on the 2 routers.  Is
there
> > any work around for this issue?  If MTU size needs to be adjusted, what
> > would be the ideal MTU size for IPSec over GRE tunnel in "tunnel" mode?
> > Again, thank you All for the help!
> >
> > Thomas N.




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Re: BVI at OC3 speed [7:54828]

2002-10-03 Thread Rahul Kachalia

IRB is in CEF path, what pkts size you are expecting for your line rate ;-)
However you can get much better perf.with 1483 since it is PXF accelerated,
but for that you need NSE1...

thanks,
rahul.
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> Has anyone out there ever configured a 7200 with a bridged OC3
> interface that is then routed via a BVI??  The config is not the issue
> but can the router handle it as this link will be heavily used.  Since
> the bridged to routed conversion is done in software I don't have a warm
> fuzzy about this but the customer doesn't understandably want to buy
> another router and just let the 7200 be a bridge.
>
>   If your wondering what the hell, this is for an LSS, LAN Switching
> Service, application which by tarriff is a fully meshed, bridged ATM
> service that extends 10 or 100M ethernet.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Dave
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> Sr. Network Engineer
> Qwest Communications
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>
> "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
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Re: Frame Relay: connectionless or connection-orie [7:54747]

2002-10-03 Thread Tangled Up in Blue

Howard,

I would like to hear your brief arguement on X.25 Fast Select as a
connectionless protocol. In (a paltry) defense of it being a
connection-oriented, doesn't the fast select option allow for data transfer
in the control packets? Just curious as to your input here and sort of
playing devil's advocate.

Thanks!


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RE: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732]

2002-10-03 Thread Gragido, William

Congrats, I passed DQoS today!

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How is the simulation question? Easy? How many simulation question
altogether?

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> HI,
> I used Cisco certification guid, Sybex exam notes and amother book named "
> Remote access for cisco networks by bill burton. exam was ok but i had
> problems in simulation Question. I could not perform the command
> " copy run start"  i was keep geeting wrror. then i tried "wr" command to
> cave running configuration but could not save it. so i let that Question
go
> without that. rest was ok not that bad
>  I spent almost 6-10 hrs a day to review stuff & finish cisco book almost
4
> times, coz i m not working in cisco networks yet so 
>
> thanks for your mail
> if U have any Q please feel free to ask.
> regards
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RE: NAT [7:54838]

2002-10-03 Thread Brett spunt

Hosts files, or local dns server pointing to private ip address,
or
 use a pix firewall with the following command "alias (inside) 
 255.255.255.255 which will  doctor the dns reply for you.

check out the following link...
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/alias.html

Brett spunt

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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:23 PM
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Subject: NAT [7:54838]


Hi All,

I am trying to set up NAT on a cisco 2600 router.  Everything seems to be
working except that I can not access resources on the inside using there
public IP address from the inside.  From the internet the router translates
the public addresses to private addresses, but from the inside I have to use
the private address to access any resource.  How can I get the router to
translate requests that originate from the inside?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.




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Re: ccnp routing [7:54579]

2002-10-03 Thread sisco

is 603 already abolished ?? am planning to take 603 next week, i thought
it'll be change on OCT 25?

thanks!



""Kaminski, Shawn G""  wrote in message
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> You need to know IS-IS, BGP, EIGRP, and OSPF equally well for the exam
> because each exam will be different. When I took my routing exam (the old
> one), I had almost all OSPF (I think it was OSPF. I know it was very
> one-sided on one of the routing protocols). Other people I talked with
said
> their exams were very one-sided on different routing protocols (one said
> BGP, the other said EIGRP). I'm sure the new exam is the same way. You
never
> know what you're going to get!
>
> Shawn K.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Brandis [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 11:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
> >
> > Wow, I am the opposite. I use OSPF as much as possible here, mainly due
to
> > the fact I had used it whilst in my early stages of networking. I really
> > like OSPF and love how it it scales nicely in my networks. I honestly
> > thought that a large portion of the routing test would be focused on
OSPF.
> > Guess I am wrong (again).
> >
> > Good luck and conratulations on your score.
> >
> > Hope the NZ Warriors have similar luck on Sunday night.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Dartford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:24 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: ccnp routing [7:54579]
> >
> >
> > I sat this yesterday!
> >
> > It is a bit differnet, and in my opinion, better.
> >
> > Better because there is actual router simulation involved. I had to
> > configure OSPF on one!
> >
> > I was caught out on IS-IS as I only started to study that at 6am the
> > morning
> > on the exam. My diligence was rewarded with %20 on IS-IS content. I
fared
> > better overall and go an excellent overall score (considering my
> > performance
> > on IS-IS).
> >
> > It focussed mainly on IS-IS (approx 10 questions), OSPF and BGP. Very
> > little
> > on EIGRP. I have only really ever configured EIGRP and BGP and I still
did
> > ok. Never seen OSPF before or since!
> >
> > I studied for one week beforehand. I used the old Ciscopress 503 exam
> > guide.
> > This was ok and went into more depth than the exam did. I borrowed the
> > course notes for the IS-IS content, but did not retain anything much in
> > the
> > hour between 6am and 7am!
> >
> > IMHO, you will be fine with having done the course and a bit of
revision.
> > Some have said in cramsession it was way hard - only hard if you have
not
> > prepared well! I relied on my practical experience and just browsed the
> > book. In the final 10 minutes, I was sure I had failed, as all the IS-IS
> > questions were at the end. I was running through my head when I should
> > resit, only to be surprised (really surprised...) that I had passed!
> >
> > Hope this info is helpful
> >
> >
> > Simon Dartford
> > Design Engineer
> > Advanced Solutions
> > Telecom New Zealand
> >
> > Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Phone: +64 4 382-5453
> > Fax: +64 4 385-1223
> > Mobile: 025 243 7989
> >
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Re: Dual CCIE and Recertification [7:54799]

2002-10-03 Thread Brads Paved Road

No, you dont have to re-cert both.

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security)
Network Learning Inc
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> recertifiying, however does this mean you would have to recertify both in
> the future by taking the written for each one, For example, Security and
> R&s?
>
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Re: VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]

2002-10-03 Thread Erick B.

What type of router and IOS? There are/were
limitations depending on those, but data is possible.

You would set up a channel-group on the controller t1
interface and define the used timeslots. This creates
a logical/virtual serial interface which you can
configure like any other serial interface cfg is done.


sample:

controller t1 x/y
   channel-group 1 timeslots 1-24

int serialx/y:1
   ip address x.x.x.x y.y.y.y
   encaps ppp/frame/whatever

The :1 is the channel #, so if your channel-group was
2 this would be serialx/y:2

HTH, Erick

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> haven't found anything.
> They say it's possible.
> 
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Re: VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]

2002-10-03 Thread Erick B.

What type of router and IOS? There are/were
limitations depending on those, but data is possible.

You would set up a channel-group on the controller t1
interface and define the used timeslots. This creates
a logical/virtual serial interface which you can
configure like any other serial interface cfg is done.


sample:

controller t1 x/y
   channel-group 1 timeslots 1-24

int serialx/y:1
   ip address x.x.x.x y.y.y.y
   encaps ppp/frame/whatever

The :1 is the channel #, so if your channel-group was
2 this would be serialx/y:2

HTH, Erick

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> haven't found anything.
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> 
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> mkj
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Re: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732]

2002-10-03 Thread Jimmy

How is the simulation question? Easy? How many simulation question
altogether?

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> problems in simulation Question. I could not perform the command
> " copy run start"  i was keep geeting wrror. then i tried "wr" command to
> cave running configuration but could not save it. so i let that Question
go
> without that. rest was ok not that bad
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NAT [7:54838]

2002-10-03 Thread Joe Middleton

Hi All,

I am trying to set up NAT on a cisco 2600 router.  Everything seems to be
working except that I can not access resources on the inside using there
public IP address from the inside.  From the internet the router translates
the public addresses to private addresses, but from the inside I have to use
the private address to access any resource.  How can I get the router to
translate requests that originate from the inside?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks.




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Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

You went through the troubleshooting process. You defined the problem and
then gathered data. I never said go through the OSI layers as you may be
implying. I said to use Cisco's troubleshooting method as taught in CIT and
probably still at the bottom of this message. There's no mention of OSI in
their method.

One piece of data you have to gather is what tends to break in this
situation. Knowing what's likely to break is part of proactive network
management.

I would have also put a Sniffer on it and determined what was actually
breaking as part of the gathering data step. I would like to know why just
that one part of the application broke, what actually "broke", and why
changing the MTU fixed it. I can be a better troubleshooter if I know why
I'm making some change. I can get a better idea of what else the change
might affect or where else I might run into a similar problem. Why live in
the dark like a "user?"

Maybe if you didn't spend so much on your credit card, there wouldn't have
been an issue? ;-) Serisouly, why would just that part break? Isn't it weird?

Did changing the MTU fix the Outlook problem for that other guy? I haven't
seen an answer to that.

Priscilla

Chuck's Long Road wrote:
> 
> While ordinarily I would defer to your extensive experience and
> superior
> powers of observation, Cil, I'm going to present a real world
> situation, and
> let's see how what you say below stands up under scrutiny. I am
> not saying
> your approach and your advice is suspect. It is excellent, and
> to be heeded.
> 
> However...
> 
> 
> Problem description.
> 
> There is a web based application I use for expense reporting.
> The
> application uses java scripting. This application has two
> components. The
> first component is for creating cash expense reports. Things
> like mileage,
> Bridge tolls. Parking. Any business expense for which I pay
> with cash. The
> other component is for creating credit card expense reports.
> Car rental,
> hotel, meals, etc.
> 
> While connected to the company VPN, I am able to create my cash
> expense
> reports with no problem.
> 
> While connected to the company VPN I cannot create credit card
> expense
> reports.
> 
> So lets go through the troubleshooting methodology. I am going
> to blow off
> physical, data link, and network layer problems because I have
> no problems
> using any other application, I have no problem connecting to
> what I need to
> connect to, etc.
> 
> Transport layer? Well,,, OK I have no way of telling.
> Obviously, sniffer
> traces would be helpful. So lets keep transport layer ( TCP )
> problems in
> mind. Maybe the firewall is blocking a port that the
> application uses.
> 
> Layers 5 and 6? Well... let's blow that off too, because I
> doubt that anyone
> could come up with anything plausible here, particularly in the
> IP world.
> 
> That brings us to layer 7 - application layer.
> 
> Now let me state that I appreciate that in the world of OSI,
> application
> does not mean the same thing that it does in the world of
> computer software.
> 
> But if you have a case where everything else is fine, and only
> this one
> component of this one application is malfunctioning, is it
> reasonable to
> suspect that the problem lies in the "application"?
> 
> Seems so to me.
> 
> But here is the kicker.
> 
> If I am in the office, connected to the company LAN, the
> application works
> just fine. I can create the credit card expense report with no
> problem. Same
> if I am dialed up via ISDN or analogue telephone line. App
> works fine. I can
> create expense reports just fine.
> 
> So - it is not an "application problem. The only variable here
> is the
> company VPN
> 
> As I said earlier, given this information, I suspected that a
> firewall was
> blocking a needed TCP or UDP port.
> 
> When I called the company help desk and described the problem,
> and included
> the information that the app worked fine where it did, and the
> problem was
> only when I used the VPN, the immediate answer was to change
> the MTU size.
> 
> Now tell me, where in the troubleshooting process does anything
> indicate an
> MTU problem? It doesn't "sound" like an MTU problem. After all,
> everything
> else works just fine.
> 
> So I argued a bit, and was told to shut up and change the MTU
> size as
> controlled by the Cisco VPN software client.
> 
> Grumbling, I did so, tested, and voila I can now create my
> credit card
> expense reports with no problem.
> 
> I keep beating on this, because I don't know how anyone can
> conclude that
> something is or is not an MTU problem given that MTU size
> adjustments seem
> to cure so many of these problems. There seems to be no rhyme
> or reason to
> it. It is not consistent across application. For example, I
> used Outlook
> just fine across the VPN prior to this MTU change. Not to
> mention every
> other app I need. So while the problem does not "LOOK" like an
> MTU problem
> ( and what exactly in my troubleshooting process 

Re: How to dial in & power up home lab?? [7:54768]

2002-10-03 Thread Gaz

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> Dear GroupStudy,
> 
> Here is my interesting dilemma.  I hope someone can lend some insight...
> 
> 1 - I only have dial-up (no cable modem - i.e. no constant connection to
> Internet).
> 2 - I travel for work, so I'm not home very often.
> 3 - I have a lab that I would like to use rather often.
> 4 - I do not want to spend a lot of $$ on long distance to dial up my
> lab.
> 5 - I also do not want to spend a lot of $$ on electricity if the lab is
> not in use.
> 6 - I have (will have) an APC MasterSwitch PDU that I know can be used
> to remotely power up/power down the lab.
> 7 - The lab consists of all 2500 series routers (7 of them).
> 
> I do not know if I can dial in to the PDU in order to power up the lab
> (this I can figure out).  Once the lab is powered up, is there a way to
> have one of the routers dial up my ISP?  But then, how would I know what
> the IP address of the router is (since the ISP uses DHCP) in order to
> telnet to the lab?
> 
> One of the solutions I have thought of is to dial up my PC (with wake on
> LAN - if that works on the modem), disconnect.  Then the dial up
> connection would be in my startup folder so the PC would dial the ISP
> automatically.  Then I would dial up the ISP from wherever I would be.
> Then I still have the problem of knowing my IP address.  A friend said
> to use ICQ.  I don't know how that works, but will try it.
> 
> I think I have covered everything.  Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Jake Secrist
I set a similar thing up at home although it doesn't answer all of your 
questions it may give you other ideas. Try www.no-ip.com.
For simple dynamic DNS they offer a free service. It seems to work fine 
for me.
I use Windows XP remote desktop to a home PC and connect to everything 
else from there. Bit of a strange set-up, but I use Internet Connection 
sharing on the XP box and all the routers sit behind that.
 I suppose the security may not be wonderful?? but to be honest I don't 
care. The XP machine can be re-built in minutes (ish).

I don't have the problem of remote power on, as I have a much more 
complicated and infinitely more expensive device which powers everything 
on when needed. Unfortunately she's not always in when I call, but you 
can't have everything :-)


Gaz




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RE: Need to make an access port very slow on a 2950 [7:54764]

2002-10-03 Thread John Brandis

Thanks mate,

I will put that config on my managers port this afternoon and have a go at
it.



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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Need to make an access port very slow on a 2950 [7:54764]


Hey John,

One thing that comes to mind is rate-limiting.  Do you have L3?   Maybe you
could create a new vlan (to make all traffic go through the L3 device) with
a new subnet and drop that port/pc into that vlan.  Then setup an
access-list and rate limit commands to throttle that traffic to 9600.
Something like this:

access-list rate-limit 110 

interface 
rate-limit input access-group rate-limit 110 9600 0 0 conform-action
transmit exceed-action drop rate-limit output access-group rate-limit 110
9600 0 0 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop

Good luck,
Vance



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Console Connection / Firmware Upgrade via Xmodem on "antique" [7:54834]

2002-10-03 Thread Colin Weaver

The hyperlink below describes my problem exactly.  I have an older catalyst
1900 with a DB9 console port rather than the newer RJ45 connector.  My
rollover cable/DB9 connector won't work.  I do get output when I go into the
diagnostic console but not when the switch boots.  Up until the point when I
deleted my firmware I was getting the ATQ0H0 (see link below) garble only.

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200101/msg00790.html

Too add insult to my injury I tried to upgrade the firmware and it failed.
Now, sans any firmware on the switch, I can only get into the diagnostic
console but when I try to download the new firmware via XModem it fails.  I
tried to make new DB9 null modem connectors per the Cisco web site (link in
the URL above) but I get nothing when using them.  I'm still using a
rollover cable but have the pins on the DB9 connectors crossed over per
Cisco's website.  The body of the message (the part from David) above isn't
readable (the formatting didn't get preserved in the post) so I can't try
his recommendation.

Can someone please help me out with some specific guidance?  I could use it.

Thanks.

Colin




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Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Chuck's Long Road

Let's see the Cisco VPN client gives you four choices - default (
doesn't state size - I assume 1500 ),  572, 1400, and custom.

I see I actually lied earlier. I changed the MTU down to 1200, not 600.

I must have been thinking "full duplex" ;->

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> That's interesting. I have a call center user who uses an ACD client over
> VPN and they are having similar problems to what you are describing. I'll
> try having them change the MTU size in the VPN client to see what happens.
> Out of curiosity, what was your previous MTU size, and what did you end up
> changing it to? Also: Although MTU is set at the application level,
doesn't
> it apply the new setting at the transport level?
> Thanks!
> GM
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck's Long Road [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
>
>
> While ordinarily I would defer to your extensive experience and superior
> powers of observation, Cil, I'm going to present a real world situation,
and
> let's see how what you say below stands up under scrutiny. I am not saying
> your approach and your advice is suspect. It is excellent, and to be
heeded.
>
> However...
>
>
> Problem description.
>
> There is a web based application I use for expense reporting. The
> application uses java scripting. This application has two components. The
> first component is for creating cash expense reports. Things like mileage,
> Bridge tolls. Parking. Any business expense for which I pay with cash. The
> other component is for creating credit card expense reports. Car rental,
> hotel, meals, etc.
>
> While connected to the company VPN, I am able to create my cash expense
> reports with no problem.
>
> While connected to the company VPN I cannot create credit card expense
> reports.
>
> So lets go through the troubleshooting methodology. I am going to blow off
> physical, data link, and network layer problems because I have no problems
> using any other application, I have no problem connecting to what I need
to
> connect to, etc.
>
> Transport layer? Well,,, OK I have no way of telling. Obviously, sniffer
> traces would be helpful. So lets keep transport layer ( TCP ) problems in
> mind. Maybe the firewall is blocking a port that the application uses.
>
> Layers 5 and 6? Well... let's blow that off too, because I doubt that
anyone
> could come up with anything plausible here, particularly in the IP world.
>
> That brings us to layer 7 - application layer.
>
> Now let me state that I appreciate that in the world of OSI, application
> does not mean the same thing that it does in the world of computer
software.
>
> But if you have a case where everything else is fine, and only this one
> component of this one application is malfunctioning, is it reasonable to
> suspect that the problem lies in the "application"?
>
> Seems so to me.
>
> But here is the kicker.
>
> If I am in the office, connected to the company LAN, the application works
> just fine. I can create the credit card expense report with no problem.
Same
> if I am dialed up via ISDN or analogue telephone line. App works fine. I
can
> create expense reports just fine.
>
> So - it is not an "application problem. The only variable here is the
> company VPN
>
> As I said earlier, given this information, I suspected that a firewall was
> blocking a needed TCP or UDP port.
>
> When I called the company help desk and described the problem, and
included
> the information that the app worked fine where it did, and the problem was
> only when I used the VPN, the immediate answer was to change the MTU size.
>
> Now tell me, where in the troubleshooting process does anything indicate
an
> MTU problem? It doesn't "sound" like an MTU problem. After all, everything
> else works just fine.
>
> So I argued a bit, and was told to shut up and change the MTU size as
> controlled by the Cisco VPN software client.
>
> Grumbling, I did so, tested, and voila I can now create my credit card
> expense reports with no problem.
>
> I keep beating on this, because I don't know how anyone can conclude that
> something is or is not an MTU problem given that MTU size adjustments seem
> to cure so many of these problems. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to
> it. It is not consistent across application. For example, I used Outlook
> just fine across the VPN prior to this MTU change. Not to mention every
> other app I need. So while the problem does not "LOOK" like an MTU problem
> ( and what exactly in my troubleshooting process did I miss that would
have
> pointed to an MTU problem? ) the fact remains that across VPNs there is
now
> a wealth of experience that indicates that changing MTU size can and does
> solve many problems.
>
> I return to the layer 4 / TCP issue beca

Three 24 Gbps Switching Engines at 18 Mpps (Layer2)!?! [7:54833]

2002-10-03 Thread Newell Ryan D SrA 18 CS/SCBT

What does this mean. I was looking at table 21-112. The difference between
supervisor engine I and supervisor engine II is that the I has 24 Gbps
switching engine and the
II has three 24 Gbps. Yet the pps remains the same(18Mpps). Is there a
direct correlation between the switching fabric and the switching
throughput. If there is reading online that would be great.
Here is the link I was referring to. 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/ca4000.htm

Ryan Newell




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Re: BVI at OC3 speed [7:54828]

2002-10-03 Thread Darrell Newcomb

Interesting.  Wish I could provide a direct answer.

Aside from NOT using BVI's :)  I usually like to just make the assumption
bvi's are going to be process switched to be safe which works for the small
environments I've used them in.  And they usually are process switched for
interesting packets like ip options, multicast, ... which are important to
many folks.  Process switching is just too much work to fill your pipes in
both directions.

I think you're answer/hope lies in researching the enchancements made to do
larger numbers of sessions for DSL agreegation which there have been many
changes in the last year.  I believe those test results are internal cisco
docs, or at least I couldn't find them easily.  There might be another
saviour if BVI made it into PXF(NSE) too which I doubt it did.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/794/7200_bdaggreg.html  (Cisco 7200
Configuration for RFC1483)

Sorry for the vague answer and Good Luck!  Let us know what you find,
Darrell

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> interface that is then routed via a BVI??  The config is not the issue
> but can the router handle it as this link will be heavily used.  Since
> the bridged to routed conversion is done in software I don't have a warm
> fuzzy about this but the customer doesn't understandably want to buy
> another router and just let the 7200 be a bridge.
>
>   If your wondering what the hell, this is for an LSS, LAN Switching
> Service, application which by tarriff is a fully meshed, bridged ATM
> service that extends 10 or 100M ethernet.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Dave
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RE: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Harold Monroe

Actually the method for detecting that it is an MTU problem is a very simple
five step process:
1.  Take the first letter of the program manufacturer Microsoft so you
get "m"
2.  Take the first three letters of program name Outlook becomes - "out"
3.  Take the result from step 2 and reverse it so "out" becomes "tuo"
4.  Append the result from step 1 to the result from step 3 so "m" +
"tuo" = mtuo
5.  Truncate the result from step 4 to 3 characters and you get MTU

Now wasn't that easy?
-Original Message-
From:   Chuck's Long Road
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Sent:   Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

While ordinarily I would defer to your extensive experience
and superior
powers of observation, Cil, I'm going to present a real
world situation, and
let's see how what you say below stands up under scrutiny. I
am not saying
your approach and your advice is suspect. It is excellent,
and to be heeded.

However...


Problem description.

There is a web based application I use for expense
reporting. The
application uses java scripting. This application has two
components. The
first component is for creating cash expense reports. Things
like mileage,
Bridge tolls. Parking. Any business expense for which I pay
with cash. The
other component is for creating credit card expense reports.
Car rental,
hotel, meals, etc.

While connected to the company VPN, I am able to create my
cash expense
reports with no problem.

While connected to the company VPN I cannot create credit
card expense
reports.

So lets go through the troubleshooting methodology. I am
going to blow off
physical, data link, and network layer problems because I
have no problems
using any other application, I have no problem connecting to
what I need to
connect to, etc.

Transport layer? Well,,, OK I have no way of telling.
Obviously, sniffer
traces would be helpful. So lets keep transport layer ( TCP
) problems in
mind. Maybe the firewall is blocking a port that the
application uses.

Layers 5 and 6? Well... let's blow that off too, because I
doubt that anyone
could come up with anything plausible here, particularly in
the IP world.

That brings us to layer 7 - application layer.

Now let me state that I appreciate that in the world of OSI,
application
does not mean the same thing that it does in the world of
computer software.

But if you have a case where everything else is fine, and
only this one
component of this one application is malfunctioning, is it
reasonable to
suspect that the problem lies in the "application"?

Seems so to me.

But here is the kicker.

If I am in the office, connected to the company LAN, the
application works
just fine. I can create the credit card expense report with
no problem. Same
if I am dialed up via ISDN or analogue telephone line. App
works fine. I can
create expense reports just fine.

So - it is not an "application problem. The only variable
here is the
company VPN

As I said earlier, given this information, I suspected that
a firewall was
blocking a needed TCP or UDP port.

When I called the company help desk and described the
problem, and included
the information that the app worked fine where it did, and
the problem was
only when I used the VPN, the immediate answer was to change
the MTU size.

Now tell me, where in the troubleshooting process does
anything indicate an
MTU problem? It doesn't "sound" like an MTU problem. After
all, everything
else works just fine.

So I argued a bit, and was told to shut up and change the
MTU size as
controlled by the Cisco VPN software client.

Grumbling, I did so, tested, and voila I can now create
my credit card
expense reports with no problem.

I keep beating on this, because I don't know how anyone can
conclude that
something is or is not an MTU problem given that MTU size
adjustments seem
to cure so many of these problems. There seems to be no
rhyme or reason to
it. It is not consistent across application. For example,

RE: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Mossburg, Geoff (MAN-Corporate)

That's interesting. I have a call center user who uses an ACD client over
VPN and they are having similar problems to what you are describing. I'll
try having them change the MTU size in the VPN client to see what happens.
Out of curiosity, what was your previous MTU size, and what did you end up
changing it to? Also: Although MTU is set at the application level, doesn't
it apply the new setting at the transport level?
Thanks!
GM

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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]


While ordinarily I would defer to your extensive experience and superior
powers of observation, Cil, I'm going to present a real world situation, and
let's see how what you say below stands up under scrutiny. I am not saying
your approach and your advice is suspect. It is excellent, and to be heeded.

However...


Problem description.

There is a web based application I use for expense reporting. The
application uses java scripting. This application has two components. The
first component is for creating cash expense reports. Things like mileage,
Bridge tolls. Parking. Any business expense for which I pay with cash. The
other component is for creating credit card expense reports. Car rental,
hotel, meals, etc.

While connected to the company VPN, I am able to create my cash expense
reports with no problem.

While connected to the company VPN I cannot create credit card expense
reports.

So lets go through the troubleshooting methodology. I am going to blow off
physical, data link, and network layer problems because I have no problems
using any other application, I have no problem connecting to what I need to
connect to, etc.

Transport layer? Well,,, OK I have no way of telling. Obviously, sniffer
traces would be helpful. So lets keep transport layer ( TCP ) problems in
mind. Maybe the firewall is blocking a port that the application uses.

Layers 5 and 6? Well... let's blow that off too, because I doubt that anyone
could come up with anything plausible here, particularly in the IP world.

That brings us to layer 7 - application layer.

Now let me state that I appreciate that in the world of OSI, application
does not mean the same thing that it does in the world of computer software.

But if you have a case where everything else is fine, and only this one
component of this one application is malfunctioning, is it reasonable to
suspect that the problem lies in the "application"?

Seems so to me.

But here is the kicker.

If I am in the office, connected to the company LAN, the application works
just fine. I can create the credit card expense report with no problem. Same
if I am dialed up via ISDN or analogue telephone line. App works fine. I can
create expense reports just fine.

So - it is not an "application problem. The only variable here is the
company VPN

As I said earlier, given this information, I suspected that a firewall was
blocking a needed TCP or UDP port.

When I called the company help desk and described the problem, and included
the information that the app worked fine where it did, and the problem was
only when I used the VPN, the immediate answer was to change the MTU size.

Now tell me, where in the troubleshooting process does anything indicate an
MTU problem? It doesn't "sound" like an MTU problem. After all, everything
else works just fine.

So I argued a bit, and was told to shut up and change the MTU size as
controlled by the Cisco VPN software client.

Grumbling, I did so, tested, and voila I can now create my credit card
expense reports with no problem.

I keep beating on this, because I don't know how anyone can conclude that
something is or is not an MTU problem given that MTU size adjustments seem
to cure so many of these problems. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to
it. It is not consistent across application. For example, I used Outlook
just fine across the VPN prior to this MTU change. Not to mention every
other app I need. So while the problem does not "LOOK" like an MTU problem
( and what exactly in my troubleshooting process did I miss that would have
pointed to an MTU problem? ) the fact remains that across VPNs there is now
a wealth of experience that indicates that changing MTU size can and does
solve many problems.

I return to the layer 4 / TCP issue because of course there is no way to
eliminate that ( or maybe even an  L3 / IP issue ) without a sniffer trace.
You are most welcome to join me here in my home office, hook up your
EtherPeek, and I will change the MTU back, and you can tell me what you
find. There is probably a good reason why this happens, and I too would be
curious as to what the reason is.

But I can tell you - the same app - just two different links to click, and
one works and one doesn't, and the fix is to change MTU.

Like I said - go figure.

Chuck
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""Priscilla Opp

BVI at OC3 speed [7:54828]

2002-10-03 Thread MADMAN

Has anyone out there ever configured a 7200 with a bridged OC3
interface that is then routed via a BVI??  The config is not the issue
but can the router handle it as this link will be heavily used.  Since
the bridged to routed conversion is done in software I don't have a warm
fuzzy about this but the customer doesn't understandably want to buy
another router and just let the 7200 be a bridge.

  If your wondering what the hell, this is for an LSS, LAN Switching
Service, application which by tarriff is a fully meshed, bridged ATM
service that extends 10 or 100M ethernet.

  Thanks

  Dave
-- 
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CCIE# 2016
Sr. Network Engineer
Qwest Communications
612-664-3367

"You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston
Churchill




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Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Chuck's Long Road

While ordinarily I would defer to your extensive experience and superior
powers of observation, Cil, I'm going to present a real world situation, and
let's see how what you say below stands up under scrutiny. I am not saying
your approach and your advice is suspect. It is excellent, and to be heeded.

However...


Problem description.

There is a web based application I use for expense reporting. The
application uses java scripting. This application has two components. The
first component is for creating cash expense reports. Things like mileage,
Bridge tolls. Parking. Any business expense for which I pay with cash. The
other component is for creating credit card expense reports. Car rental,
hotel, meals, etc.

While connected to the company VPN, I am able to create my cash expense
reports with no problem.

While connected to the company VPN I cannot create credit card expense
reports.

So lets go through the troubleshooting methodology. I am going to blow off
physical, data link, and network layer problems because I have no problems
using any other application, I have no problem connecting to what I need to
connect to, etc.

Transport layer? Well,,, OK I have no way of telling. Obviously, sniffer
traces would be helpful. So lets keep transport layer ( TCP ) problems in
mind. Maybe the firewall is blocking a port that the application uses.

Layers 5 and 6? Well... let's blow that off too, because I doubt that anyone
could come up with anything plausible here, particularly in the IP world.

That brings us to layer 7 - application layer.

Now let me state that I appreciate that in the world of OSI, application
does not mean the same thing that it does in the world of computer software.

But if you have a case where everything else is fine, and only this one
component of this one application is malfunctioning, is it reasonable to
suspect that the problem lies in the "application"?

Seems so to me.

But here is the kicker.

If I am in the office, connected to the company LAN, the application works
just fine. I can create the credit card expense report with no problem. Same
if I am dialed up via ISDN or analogue telephone line. App works fine. I can
create expense reports just fine.

So - it is not an "application problem. The only variable here is the
company VPN

As I said earlier, given this information, I suspected that a firewall was
blocking a needed TCP or UDP port.

When I called the company help desk and described the problem, and included
the information that the app worked fine where it did, and the problem was
only when I used the VPN, the immediate answer was to change the MTU size.

Now tell me, where in the troubleshooting process does anything indicate an
MTU problem? It doesn't "sound" like an MTU problem. After all, everything
else works just fine.

So I argued a bit, and was told to shut up and change the MTU size as
controlled by the Cisco VPN software client.

Grumbling, I did so, tested, and voila I can now create my credit card
expense reports with no problem.

I keep beating on this, because I don't know how anyone can conclude that
something is or is not an MTU problem given that MTU size adjustments seem
to cure so many of these problems. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to
it. It is not consistent across application. For example, I used Outlook
just fine across the VPN prior to this MTU change. Not to mention every
other app I need. So while the problem does not "LOOK" like an MTU problem
( and what exactly in my troubleshooting process did I miss that would have
pointed to an MTU problem? ) the fact remains that across VPNs there is now
a wealth of experience that indicates that changing MTU size can and does
solve many problems.

I return to the layer 4 / TCP issue because of course there is no way to
eliminate that ( or maybe even an  L3 / IP issue ) without a sniffer trace.
You are most welcome to join me here in my home office, hook up your
EtherPeek, and I will change the MTU back, and you can tell me what you
find. There is probably a good reason why this happens, and I too would be
curious as to what the reason is.

But I can tell you - the same app - just two different links to click, and
one works and one doesn't, and the fix is to change MTU.

Like I said - go figure.

Chuck
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""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I agree that it doesn't sound like an MTU problem. There are often
problems
> with MTU when DSL, VPNs, tunnels, etc. are used, so people might jump to
> that conclusion. But e-mail messages are often very short and would easily
> fit into most MTUs even after overhead. To test whether it's an MTU
problem,
> try some oversized pings.
>
> The MTU issue occurs when a full-sized packet arrives at an interface that
> needs to squeeze it into an MTU along with the overhead. The interface
could
> fragment, but maybe the application or transport layer

RE: Study Group in Indianapolis [7:54748]

2002-10-03 Thread Antoine Nicholson

Is this for the written and practical or just the practical?


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PIX Scenerio [7:54824]

2002-10-03 Thread Azhar Teza

In this PIX Scenerio, What will be the best option.   Note: PIX is being
used between the two Private networks.  I am just treating the outside
interface as one of the users' subnets. I have 10 users on outside interface
(Network 192.168.40.0) want to have an acess to the some resources in the
inside (Network 172.16.20.0).  Instead of statically mapping each IP address
from the users to the inside resources, can I justdo this: static (inside,
outside) 192.168.40.0 172.16.20.0 netmask 255.255.255.0, and then apply
conduit For Example, conduit permit tcp host 192.168.40.5 (User's IP
address) 172.16.20.5 (File Server)  and so on, or will it be better to
statically map each user ip address to the resource ip address, and then
open the conduit  static (inside, outside) 192.168.40.5(user's computer) 
172.16.20.5 (File Server) netmaks 255.255.255.255. I think I can't
statically map the actual user IP address.  I am gonna have to use an unused
IP address from the user's subnet (192.168.10.0).  Please let me know. Thanks,


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RE: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Harold Monroe

You don't mention Exchange server but I assume this is what you are
attaching to using Outlook. Is there any NATting involved with Exchange? If
so you might have an Exchange port problem.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q155831
 
"Setting TCP/IP Ports for Exchange and Outlook Client Connections Through a
Firewall"

-Original Message-
From:   JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

Can some one explain clearly how does MTU size affect
windows applications
where these applications won't work over a network link. I
have a certain
home user that can establish a vpn tunnel through a DSL to
corporate network
and all applications will work except for email. The only
difference is a
cisco router in between the homeuser and corporate network.
Without this
cisco router (with homeuser directly attached to DSL modem)
there are no
problems. Some one mentioned MTU could be the problem, but
if the frames are
larger then MTU don't they get fragmented and re-assembled
at the other end.
How could MTU size fail single application while everything
else works fine.
Thanks for any help.
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RE: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Jim Brown wrote:
> 
> I belong to the CheckPoint list server and a very similar
> discussion is
> happening over there referencing Outlook over a VPN between
> CheckPoint
> firewalls.
> 
> Could this problem be related to Tunnel overhead and packet
> fragmentation?
> 
> I think this might be a problem with Microsoft's implementation
> of the
> TCP/IP stack and large packets over 1500 MTU. 

Earlier in the discussion, we doubted this because why would just Outlook
have a problem? E-mail is less likely to be large than HTTP, FTP, extended
pings, etc. But there does seem to be a lot of anectdotal evidence that MTU
is somehow related, so maybe worth testing. More below.

> Outlook might not
> be very
> happy with fragmentation.
> 
> There is a registry setting for the end station that forces the
> MTU to
> 576 for any packets not destined for the local subnet.
> 
> This is cut and pasted from 
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q314053
> 
> EnablePMTUDiscovery 
> Key: Tcpip\Parameters
> Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
> Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
> Default: 1 (True)

Interesting that this is TRUE by default. Explains the fact that most
traffic seems to have the DF bit set. They set the DF bit, never get back an
ICMP Frag Needed But DF Bit Set, so just keep sending with that size and
never bother to unset the DF bit.

> Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to
> attempt to
> discover the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU or largest packet
> size) over
> the path to a remote host. By discovering the Path MTU and
> limiting TCP
> segments to this size, TCP can eliminate fragmentation at
> routers along
> the path that connect networks with different MTUs.
> Fragmentation
> adversely affects TCP throughput and network congestion.
> Setting this
> parameter to 0 causes an MTU of 576 bytes to be used for all
> connections
> that are not to computers on the local subnet. 
> 
> EnablePMTUBHDetect 
> Key: Tcpip\Parameters
> Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
> Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
> Default: 0 (False)
> Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to
> try to
> detect "Black Hole" routers while doing Path MTU Discovery. A
> "Black
> Hole" router does not return ICMP Destination Unreachable
> messages when
> it needs to fragment an IP datagram with the Don't Fragment bit
> set. TCP
> depends on receiving these messages to perform Path MTU
> Discovery. With
> this feature enabled, TCP will try to send segments without the
> Don't
> Fragment bit set if several retransmissions of a segment go
> unacknowledged. If the segment is acknowledged as a result, the
> MSS will
> be decreased and the Don't Fragment bit will be set in future
> packets on
> the connection. Enabling black hole detection increases the
> maximum
> number of retransmissions performed for a given segment. 
> 
> Anyone willing to modify their end station to force an MTU of
> 576 and
> discovery of "blackholes" and report the results.

That wouldn't be the logical test. There's no need to discover black holes
unles MTU discovery IS used.

So two tests to try would be:

1) MTU discovery off (which forces all packets to be 576 bytes, which would
be awful for performance, but OK for a test)
Black hole discovery off (irrelevant, but might as well be off)

and

MTU disocvery on
Black hole discovery on also

> 
> It would be most insightful to see the pre and post registry
> network
> sniffer traces of Outlook traffic.

I agree that sniffer traces are probably going to be necessary to debug this
problem! I look forward to hearing a resolution.

Gotta get back to work, myself, though. ;-)

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www.priscilla.com
> 
> I don't have time now, but I think this could be the issue. I
> think it
> may be an end station problem.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
> 
> 
> I had the same issue with outlook, its real slow when accessing
> Imap
> mail. I set the MTU, adjusted other
> things, etc..nothing seems to fix this issue for me. I set up
> Netscape
> 6.2x messenger/mail. Installed the
> mail client for Imap mail, and it works fine...sometimes it
> hangs for a
> second or two, but not anything like
> outlook
> 
> Larry
> 
> Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote:
> 
> >I may be way out of line, but there aren't any access lists
> which may
> be
> >prohibiting the IMAP ports used by exchange, are there. I ran
> into a
> config
> >mess with DMZ's and access lists for a beta product test once.
> And that
> was
> >what we saw - all worked (http, proxy, etc.) but Exchange was
> gone.
> Turned
> >out to be some Checkpoint and access-list tweaking.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:

RE: How to force a new DR? [7:54810]

2002-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The easiest way I have found to do this is to:
ip ospf pri 0 on the DR's interface , this will force a new DR, then
no ip ospf pri 0
I would first get the router you wish to be the DR to be the BDR,
using the above process on the BDR


Jim Fickett 


-Original Message-
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to force a new DR? [7:54810]


At 4:06 PM + 10/3/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello friends,
>
>   I have a question for you, maybe you can help me...
>
>
> Suppose that I have an Ethernet segment with some routers
>speaking OSPF, one of them is the DR and other is the BDR. Suppose that I
>add a new router to the Ethernet segment. I know that this doesn't start a
>new ellection of DR or BDR process, (the normal way is that when the DR
>fails, the BDR takes its place and one new BDR is ellected). Now suppose
>that I want the new router be the DR... How can I force this?? I know that
>I can force the priority in the election process (ip ospf priority
>command), but I am not sure that changing this priority will start a new
>election. Must I shut down the DR and BDR routers in order to force a
>new DR and BDR?? I don't think so

Yes you must both:
stop OSPF on the existing DR and BDR
bring up the new desired DR
  if there is a router with a better priority still on, it may become
DR.
  the only certain way to make a router interface DR is to have it the
only active router
bring up the other routers.

ISIS does things a different way.  Essentially, it doesn't have the 
BDR concept, and you can force a particular router to be DR 
equivalent.

These are some of the fundamental design differences between OSPF and ISIS.
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RE: ARP -- UNIXWARE servers [7:54778]

2002-10-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

They may learn the MAC addresses for all routers on their network segment,
but which one do they use when sending non-local traffic?  Don't they use
the MAC address that maps to the IP address of the configured default gateway?

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Marian Iordanescu wrote:
> 
> I Have an issue I'm curious about.
> I've set up HSRP on a 6513. We have more servers with Unixware
> O.S. installed. These machines learn all MAC addresses from all
> routers not one from active router.
> 
> 
> Thank you for your input.
> 
> Marian
> 
> 
>  
> The IT department of the Romanian Bank for Development
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Re: How to force a new DR? [7:54810]

2002-10-03 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 4:06 PM + 10/3/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello friends,
>
>   I have a question for you, maybe you can help me...
>
>
> Suppose that I have an Ethernet segment with some routers
>speaking OSPF, one of them is the DR and other is the BDR. Suppose that I
>add a new router to the Ethernet segment. I know that this doesn't start a
>new ellection of DR or BDR process, (the normal way is that when the DR
>fails, the BDR takes its place and one new BDR is ellected). Now suppose
>that I want the new router be the DR... How can I force this?? I know that
>I can force the priority in the election process (ip ospf priority
>command), but I am not sure that changing this priority will start a new
>election. Must I shut down the DR and BDR routers in order to force a
>new DR and BDR?? I don't think so

Yes you must both:
stop OSPF on the existing DR and BDR
bring up the new desired DR
  if there is a router with a better priority still on, it may become DR.
  the only certain way to make a router interface DR is to have it the
only active router
bring up the other routers.

ISIS does things a different way.  Essentially, it doesn't have the 
BDR concept, and you can force a particular router to be DR 
equivalent.

These are some of the fundamental design differences between OSPF and ISIS.




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Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

What is LFI? Sorry for my ignorance. Is it an IP thing or a data-link-layer
thing?? If it's a data-link-layer thing, then it's not a problem.

The DF bit only affects IP fragmentation.

As far as what applications set the DF bit, it's more common than you might
think. DNS often does. Quite a few HTTP implementations set it. I just ran a
capture on the network I'm on today and most of the traffic had it set!

You could try a test on your network too? Maybe lots of people could try
this so we could get a better idea.

I think one reason that setting the DF bit is common is because IP
fragmentation and reassembly is a bad idea. It causes extra work on the
device doing the fragmentation and the end host that reassembles. Also, the
packets remain fragmented until they reach the end host. So even though
there may be some Ethernet networks in the path (even Gigabit which has its
jumbo frames feature), the packets remain small.

Fragmenting at the data-link-layer across a pt-to-pt virtual circuit is more
efficient and less problematic. PPP and Frame Relay have features for this.

___

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www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

Schwantz wrote:
> 
> I am interested to know what are the applications out there
> that sets the DF
> bit . Does anybdy know and common ones ? The reason for this is
> because I
> want to run LFI on my router for the purpose of VoIP. If I
> understand how
> LFI works, it will "chop" up large data packets so as to reduce
> possible
> jitter. If there are critical applications that don't allow
> fragmentation,
> my guess is LFI would cause the packets to be dropped. I don't
> want that to
> happen. Any suggestions what I could do besides throwing BW at
> the equation
> and turning off LFI altogether ?
> 
> Schwantz
> 
> ""Jim Brown""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I belong to the CheckPoint list server and a very similar
> discussion is
> > happening over there referencing Outlook over a VPN between
> CheckPoint
> > firewalls.
> >
> > Could this problem be related to Tunnel overhead and packet
> > fragmentation?
> >
> > I think this might be a problem with Microsoft's
> implementation of the
> > TCP/IP stack and large packets over 1500 MTU. Outlook might
> not be very
> > happy with fragmentation.
> >
> > There is a registry setting for the end station that forces
> the MTU to
> > 576 for any packets not destined for the local subnet.
> >
> > This is cut and pasted from
> >
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q314053
> >
> > EnablePMTUDiscovery
> > Key: Tcpip\Parameters
> > Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
> > Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
> > Default: 1 (True)
> > Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to
> attempt to
> > discover the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU or largest packet
> size) over
> > the path to a remote host. By discovering the Path MTU and
> limiting TCP
> > segments to this size, TCP can eliminate fragmentation at
> routers along
> > the path that connect networks with different MTUs.
> Fragmentation
> > adversely affects TCP throughput and network congestion.
> Setting this
> > parameter to 0 causes an MTU of 576 bytes to be used for all
> connections
> > that are not to computers on the local subnet.
> >
> > EnablePMTUBHDetect
> > Key: Tcpip\Parameters
> > Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
> > Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
> > Default: 0 (False)
> > Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to
> try to
> > detect "Black Hole" routers while doing Path MTU Discovery. A
> "Black
> > Hole" router does not return ICMP Destination Unreachable
> messages when
> > it needs to fragment an IP datagram with the Don't Fragment
> bit set. TCP
> > depends on receiving these messages to perform Path MTU
> Discovery. With
> > this feature enabled, TCP will try to send segments without
> the Don't
> > Fragment bit set if several retransmissions of a segment go
> > unacknowledged. If the segment is acknowledged as a result,
> the MSS will
> > be decreased and the Don't Fragment bit will be set in future
> packets on
> > the connection. Enabling black hole detection increases the
> maximum
> > number of retransmissions performed for a given segment.
> >
> > Anyone willing to modify their end station to force an MTU of
> 576 and
> > discovery of "blackholes" and report the results.
> >
> > It would be most insightful to see the pre and post registry
> network
> > sniffer traces of Outlook traffic.
> >
> > I don't have time now, but I think this could be the issue. I
> think it
> > may be an end station problem.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
> >
> >
> > I had the same issue with outlook, its real slow when
> accessing Imap
> > mail. I set the MTU, adjusted other
> > 

RE: Visio 2k Stencils [7:54804]

2002-10-03 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1

If you want powerpoint and other icons, you get them from Cisco directly at
the following:
(word wrap)

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/503/2.html


Bill Creighton CCNP
Senior System Engineer
Motorola
iDEN CNRC Packet Data


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Anybody got stencils for catalyst 6513s and corresponding cards that they
can send me or know where I could get them?



Thanks,

Mario Puras
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RE: Visio 2k Stencils [7:54804]

2002-10-03 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1

Here's a mirror site that has just about every Cisco icon you'd ever want.
I'm using Visio 2002 pro, but if I'm not mistaken the .vss (stencils) work
in all versions. It's a huge file (about 25Mb) so I hope you got a good
connection. 

http://www.ipsyn.net/cisco/icons/

Bill Creighton CCNP
Senior System Engineer
Motorola
iDEN CNRC Packet Data


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RE: How to force a new DR? [7:54810]

2002-10-03 Thread Jim Brown

Try 'clear ip ospf proc'

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Subject: How to force a new DR? [7:54810]


Hello friends,

  I have a question for you, maybe you can help me...


Suppose that I have an Ethernet segment with some routers
speaking OSPF, one of them is the DR and other is the BDR. Suppose that
I
add a new router to the Ethernet segment. I know that this doesn't start
a
new ellection of DR or BDR process, (the normal way is that when the DR
fails, the BDR takes its place and one new BDR is ellected). Now suppose
that I want the new router be the DR... How can I force this?? I know
that
I can force the priority in the election process (ip ospf priority
command), but I am not sure that changing this priority will start a new
election. Must I shut down the DR and BDR routers in order to force
a
new DR and BDR?? I don't think so


Best regards.

Miguel Angel




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RE: When to put a dash [7:54802]

2002-10-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

John Huston wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a rule in Cisco commands that
> helps you remember
> when to put  a dash in a command and when not too?  For example
> the command IP
> RTP HEADER-COMPRESSION.  What signals that you need a dash
> between header and
> compression?  I've never figured this out.

Nope, there's no logic to it. Other router vendors are critical of Cisco for
this, by the way.

I used to work with a documentation writer at Cisco who would go back to the
engineers and try to get them to be more consistent before she would
document a new command, but alas, she manages all documentation at Juniper
now. ;-)

___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

> 
> Thank you in advance for your help.
> 
> 




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RE: VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]

2002-10-03 Thread William Pearch

I have been using VWIC-1MFT's and VWIC-2MFT's to connect in a data mode
to WIC-1DSUs using a cross over T1 cable.  When you do this, it is
imperative to add the 'speed 64' portion of the channel-group if that is
the base speed of the DS0.  I am finding that in general, if I want
something to work I shouldn't trust default settings :)

TTFN,
Bill Pearch, Anchorage

-Original Message-
From: Larry Perdue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]


You need to use the "channel-group" command to create the serial
interface, it doesn't do this automatically.  Here is an example from
one that I have
done:
controller T1 2/1
  framing esf
  clock source internal
  linecode b8zs
  cablelength short 133
  channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24 speed 64

In this case, the "channel-group" command creates a serial 2/1:0
interface that can then be given an IP address and used accordingly.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent:   Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]

Has any one configured a Data T1 on the following card (VWIC 2MFT-T1)?
This is very different from what I've seen in the past...

I've been looking on CCO for data configuration, but haven't found
anything. They say it's possible.

Cheers,
mkj

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How to force a new DR? [7:54810]

2002-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello friends,

  I have a question for you, maybe you can help me...


Suppose that I have an Ethernet segment with some routers
speaking OSPF, one of them is the DR and other is the BDR. Suppose that I
add a new router to the Ethernet segment. I know that this doesn't start a
new ellection of DR or BDR process, (the normal way is that when the DR
fails, the BDR takes its place and one new BDR is ellected). Now suppose
that I want the new router be the DR... How can I force this?? I know that
I can force the priority in the election process (ip ospf priority
command), but I am not sure that changing this priority will start a new
election. Must I shut down the DR and BDR routers in order to force a
new DR and BDR?? I don't think so


Best regards.

Miguel Angel




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Re: When to put a dash [7:54802]

2002-10-03 Thread MADMAN

Ha! I have wndered about this in the past also but I think there is no
consistency whatsoever.  The ? and tab key are your friend.

  MADMAN

John Huston wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a rule in Cisco commands that helps you
remember
> when to put  a dash in a command and when not too?  For example the command
> IP
> RTP HEADER-COMPRESSION.  What signals that you need a dash between header
and
> compression?  I've never figured this out.
> 
> Thank you in advance for your help.
-- 
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612-664-3367

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CiscoWorks installation issue [7:54808]

2002-10-03 Thread jeff sicuranza

I was wondering if any of the Microsoft experts out there can help me with
this one.

I am having a problem installing CiscoWorks 2000 3.2 CD one on a Win2k
Advanced server. I have installed this same version on other 2k advanced
servers in the past with no problem but at the beginning of the installation
a dialog box appears with a title of “severe” and a message of  “cannot
create install dependency file”.

Can anyone of the Microsoft experts out there shed some light on this. I
have installed other applications like Visio2k, Visual Studio and SQL
server2k to name a few before the CiscoWorks application, Is one of the
other previous application installations blocking or causing this issue? I
stick the CD into another Win2k box with the same apps installed and I do
not get this message. This is a new server and the apps were just installed.
I would hate to blow it away because of an install sequence. I tried looking
up the error message for some clues on the Microsoft and Cisco sites but was
only able to find this bit of information:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q178354


Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated…

Thanks….

/JS



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RE: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732]

2002-10-03 Thread Amir Tahir

HI, 
I used Cisco certification guid, Sybex exam notes and amother book named "
Remote access for cisco networks by bill burton. exam was ok but i had
problems in simulation Question. I could not perform the command
" copy run start"  i was keep geeting wrror. then i tried "wr" command to
cave running configuration but could not save it. so i let that Question go
without that. rest was ok not that bad
 I spent almost 6-10 hrs a day to review stuff & finish cisco book almost 4
times, coz i m not working in cisco networks yet so 

thanks for your mail
if U have any Q please feel free to ask.
regards
Amir


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RE: When to put a dash [7:54802]

2002-10-03 Thread Michael Greenbaum

For me it usually comes from repetition of the commands and when there
is an uncertainty about when to put the dash the old '?' usually works.

Hope this helps.

M.

Michael Greenbaum
Senior Cisco Certified Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.mtcglabs.com

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John Huston
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: When to put a dash [7:54802]

Does anyone know if there is a rule in Cisco commands that helps you
remember
when to put  a dash in a command and when not too?  For example the
command
IP
RTP HEADER-COMPRESSION.  What signals that you need a dash between
header and
compression?  I've never figured this out.

Thank you in advance for your help.




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Visio 2k Stencils [7:54804]

2002-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Anybody got stencils for catalyst 6513s and corresponding cards that they
can send me or know where I could get them?



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Mario Puras
SoluNet Technical Support




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RE: VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]

2002-10-03 Thread Larry Perdue

You need to use the "channel-group" command to create the serial interface,
it doesn't do this automatically.  Here is an example from one that I have
done:
controller T1 2/1
  framing esf
  clock source internal
  linecode b8zs
  cablelength short 133
  channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24 speed 64

In this case, the "channel-group" command creates a serial 2/1:0 interface
that can then be given an IP address and used accordingly.


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Sent:   Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]

Has any one configured a Data T1 on the following card (VWIC 2MFT-T1)?  This
is very different from what I've seen in the past...

I've been looking on CCO for data configuration, but haven't found anything.
They say it's possible.

Cheers,
mkj

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Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Schwantz

I am interested to know what are the applications out there that sets the DF
bit . Does anybdy know and common ones ? The reason for this is because I
want to run LFI on my router for the purpose of VoIP. If I understand how
LFI works, it will "chop" up large data packets so as to reduce possible
jitter. If there are critical applications that don't allow fragmentation,
my guess is LFI would cause the packets to be dropped. I don't want that to
happen. Any suggestions what I could do besides throwing BW at the equation
and turning off LFI altogether ?

Schwantz

""Jim Brown""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I belong to the CheckPoint list server and a very similar discussion is
> happening over there referencing Outlook over a VPN between CheckPoint
> firewalls.
>
> Could this problem be related to Tunnel overhead and packet
> fragmentation?
>
> I think this might be a problem with Microsoft's implementation of the
> TCP/IP stack and large packets over 1500 MTU. Outlook might not be very
> happy with fragmentation.
>
> There is a registry setting for the end station that forces the MTU to
> 576 for any packets not destined for the local subnet.
>
> This is cut and pasted from
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q314053
>
> EnablePMTUDiscovery
> Key: Tcpip\Parameters
> Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
> Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
> Default: 1 (True)
> Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to attempt to
> discover the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU or largest packet size) over
> the path to a remote host. By discovering the Path MTU and limiting TCP
> segments to this size, TCP can eliminate fragmentation at routers along
> the path that connect networks with different MTUs. Fragmentation
> adversely affects TCP throughput and network congestion. Setting this
> parameter to 0 causes an MTU of 576 bytes to be used for all connections
> that are not to computers on the local subnet.
>
> EnablePMTUBHDetect
> Key: Tcpip\Parameters
> Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
> Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
> Default: 0 (False)
> Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to try to
> detect "Black Hole" routers while doing Path MTU Discovery. A "Black
> Hole" router does not return ICMP Destination Unreachable messages when
> it needs to fragment an IP datagram with the Don't Fragment bit set. TCP
> depends on receiving these messages to perform Path MTU Discovery. With
> this feature enabled, TCP will try to send segments without the Don't
> Fragment bit set if several retransmissions of a segment go
> unacknowledged. If the segment is acknowledged as a result, the MSS will
> be decreased and the Don't Fragment bit will be set in future packets on
> the connection. Enabling black hole detection increases the maximum
> number of retransmissions performed for a given segment.
>
> Anyone willing to modify their end station to force an MTU of 576 and
> discovery of "blackholes" and report the results.
>
> It would be most insightful to see the pre and post registry network
> sniffer traces of Outlook traffic.
>
> I don't have time now, but I think this could be the issue. I think it
> may be an end station problem.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 7:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
>
>
> I had the same issue with outlook, its real slow when accessing Imap
> mail. I set the MTU, adjusted other
> things, etc..nothing seems to fix this issue for me. I set up Netscape
> 6.2x messenger/mail. Installed the
> mail client for Imap mail, and it works fine...sometimes it hangs for a
> second or two, but not anything like
> outlook
>
> Larry
>
> Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote:
>
> >I may be way out of line, but there aren't any access lists which may
> be
> >prohibiting the IMAP ports used by exchange, are there. I ran into a
> config
> >mess with DMZ's and access lists for a beta product test once. And that
> was
> >what we saw - all worked (http, proxy, etc.) but Exchange was gone.
> Turned
> >out to be some Checkpoint and access-list tweaking.
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:43 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
> >
> >Thanks Priscilla, I definitely don't mind even if it was criticisim
> >especially coming from some one of your caliber. Thank you for the
> pointers
> >and I will do some more deligant troubleshooting. And yes Mike it is
> outlook
> >that refuses to work properly. There is no problem browsing, home user
> is
> >able to copy files of all sizes with out any problems. We can ping the
> email
> >server from the user's workstation heck I am even pc-anwhered into his
> >machine. But as soon we start outlook it just hangs. I will further
> >investigate the router's confi

When to put a dash [7:54802]

2002-10-03 Thread John Huston

Does anyone know if there is a rule in Cisco commands that helps you remember
when to put  a dash in a command and when not too?  For example the command
IP
RTP HEADER-COMPRESSION.  What signals that you need a dash between header and
compression?  I've never figured this out.

Thank you in advance for your help.




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r/s study in tallahassee [7:54801]

2002-10-03 Thread Black Jack

I am looking for R/S Lab study partner(s) in Tallahassee or surrounding area.


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Re: Cisco work 2000 [7:54773]

2002-10-03 Thread Rico Tsang

Hi,

The topology service view depends on CDP, not just IP or even SNMP.  Please
make
sure that the CDP between the missing devices and other present devices are
enabled.
You can verify by checking the 'show cdp neighbor' to see if they see each
other.

Rico.

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> essential , inventory , check device attribute , I am able to check that
all
> device are correctly configured. However , when I try extract the topology
> service network view on the layer 2 view, I find that some of my switch
> discover by the resource manager are missing, anyone has any advice on
that
> , thanks




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Dual CCIE and Recertification [7:54799]

2002-10-03 Thread Jim Haynes

I know if you have one CCIE and pass a second one it counts as
recertifiying, however does this mean you would have to recertify both in
the future by taking the written for each one, For example, Security and
R&s?

Jim




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Recertifications [7:54798]

2002-10-03 Thread James

Hello,

I wonder what happens if you don't pass the CCNP
recertification ? Say if your CCNP is still valid and
you take the recert test early and do not pass, does
that mean you cease to be a CCNP ?


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Re: CCNP Recert [7:54787]

2002-10-03 Thread Robert Edmonds

Personally, I can't imagine being able to pass the CCIE R&S exam and not
being able to breeze through the CCNP stuff.  It may be different than
version 1, but I imagine you've probably been keeping fairly up to date with
this stuff since you're attempting your IE cert.

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> It may not work, what with all these new things that have been added.
>
> But I would imagine that if you have some money and get good practice
exams,
> it should do the job, especially if you have been working with the
> technologies.
>
> The best thing of all is that knowledge which you stuggled to get... you
> just need to refresh, even if you have not been using it!
>
> Good Luck




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AUX port PPP dialup link config ? [7:54797]

2002-10-03 Thread dave petit

Hi group,

I have a Cisco 2524 connecting my in house network to the Comcast (cable
modem network) all works fine.

I would like to now add a modem attached to the unused aux port of the 2524,
so that I can dial into the router and either get transit out to the
internet or access my inside network resources.

I have been to the Cisco site, looked through all the Dial up cookbooks,
have not found a sample config that suits my needs.

Has anyone done this?

If so, could you direct me to a link that has a sample config.

Thanks!!




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VWIC 2MFT-T1 [7:54796]

2002-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Has any one configured a Data T1 on the following card (VWIC 2MFT-T1)?  This
is very different from what I've seen in the past...

I've been looking on CCO for data configuration, but haven't found anything.
They say it's possible.

Cheers,
mkj

~~~
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ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
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Re: CCNP Recert [7:54787]

2002-10-03 Thread ccnp ccnp2002

Sorry, I said it may be difficult because I have never looked at the CCIE
(R&S) course content!

Sorry again, it must be possibel!


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OT: 2500 8mb Flash for sale [7:54794]

2002-10-03 Thread Albert Lu

Hello Group,

I got some 8mb flash memory to sell, pulled from 2500 routers. Looking for
$50AUD each.

Thanks

Albert




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unable to telnet on vty ... - cisco1721+NM-BRI [7:54792]

2002-10-03 Thread Milan Jovancic

Having problem with telnet on public IP (WAN address for isdn dialin
user...). In local network telnet on private ip work fine, but this happens
either when there is no access-list applied on any interfaces or line vty 0
4 

situation :
/**
jovam@office:~$ telnet ruter..yy.zz
Trying 194.247.xxx.xxx
Connected to ruter..yy.zz.
Escape character is '^]'.   ! <--- 30 sec of delay


User Access Verification

Password: 
% Password:  timeout expired!Connection closed by foreign host.
/**

some parts from configuration:
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Re: RE: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread vikramjskeer

Hi All,


A small thing on this. Cross check whenever you are putting that router,
what is the default gateway. What I want to indicate over here is, the
Microsoft Outlook looks around for the SMTP and POP-3 servers through the
default gateway of the machine, so the other applications might work through
your Proxy IP or some other solution, but Outlook would always try to go
through the Default Gateway of the machine.


Hope it helps, 


Regards,


Vikram

"Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote:



I agree that it doesn't sound like an MTU problem. There are often problems
with MTU when DSL, VPNs, tunnels, etc. are used, so people might jump to
that conclusion. But e-mail messages are often very short and would easily
fit into most MTUs even after overhead. To test whether it's an MTU problem,
try some oversized pings.

The MTU issue occurs when a full-sized packet arrives at an interface that
needs to squeeze it into an MTU along with the overhead. The interface could
fragment, but maybe the application or transport layer set the Don't
Fragment bit. Quite a few applications do that as part of their MTU
discovery process. The problem is made worse if there's an access list that
is blocking the ICMP "Fragmentation required but DF bit set" message.

Here's a Cisco article on MTU:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/56.html

This isn't a criticism of the original poster, who was already doubting the
people who told him it was an MTU problem, but it does give me a chance to
get on my soapbox about troubleshooting methods. A lot of people
troubleshoot using the technique we learned in grade school to match items
from Column A with items from Column B. ;-) Column A has network types and
Column B has most common problem for network type. It's important to know
about common problems, but it's just as important to gather data, research
symptoms, and use logic and reasoning.

Cisco's troubleshooting method really does work: 

1. Define the problem.
2. Gather facts.
3. Consider possibilities.
4. Create an action plan.
5. Implement the action plan.
6. Observe the results.
7. Do problem symptoms stop?

If no, go back to 4 or possibly to 2.
If yes, problem resolved, document the results.

OK, off my soapbox now! :-)

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www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I found email to be a touchy thing... Especially when dealing
> with M$
> 0utlook. Are you sure it's the MTU size that's the problem
> with email.
> 
> I know in our situation, I had to add the mail server name & IP
> to the host
> file of the remote pc. Some times we experience some latency,
> but for the
> most part it's only been about half a minute.
> 
> Cheers,
> mkj
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
> 
> 
> Can some one explain clearly how does MTU size affect windows
> applications
> where these applications won't work over a network link. I have
> a certain
> home user that can establish a vpn tunnel through a DSL to
> corporate network
> and all applications will work except for email. The only
> difference is a
> cisco router in between the homeuser and corporate network.
> Without this
> cisco router (with homeuser directly attached to DSL modem)
> there are no
> problems. Some one mentioned MTU could be the problem, but if
> the frames are
> larger then MTU don't they get fragmented and re-assembled at
> the other end.
> How could MTU size fail single application while everything
> else works fine.
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
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RE: BCRAN Passed. [7:54732]

2002-10-03 Thread ccnp ccnp2002

What materials did you use for the BCRAN? How long studying (plus hours/day).

Thanks!


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RE: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]

2002-10-03 Thread Jim Brown

I belong to the CheckPoint list server and a very similar discussion is
happening over there referencing Outlook over a VPN between CheckPoint
firewalls.

Could this problem be related to Tunnel overhead and packet
fragmentation?

I think this might be a problem with Microsoft's implementation of the
TCP/IP stack and large packets over 1500 MTU. Outlook might not be very
happy with fragmentation.

There is a registry setting for the end station that forces the MTU to
576 for any packets not destined for the local subnet.

This is cut and pasted from 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q314053

EnablePMTUDiscovery 
Key: Tcpip\Parameters
Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
Default: 1 (True)
Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to attempt to
discover the Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU or largest packet size) over
the path to a remote host. By discovering the Path MTU and limiting TCP
segments to this size, TCP can eliminate fragmentation at routers along
the path that connect networks with different MTUs. Fragmentation
adversely affects TCP throughput and network congestion. Setting this
parameter to 0 causes an MTU of 576 bytes to be used for all connections
that are not to computers on the local subnet. 

EnablePMTUBHDetect 
Key: Tcpip\Parameters
Value Type: REG_DWORD - Boolean
Valid Range: 0,1 (False, True)
Default: 0 (False)
Description: Setting this parameter to 1 (True) causes TCP to try to
detect "Black Hole" routers while doing Path MTU Discovery. A "Black
Hole" router does not return ICMP Destination Unreachable messages when
it needs to fragment an IP datagram with the Don't Fragment bit set. TCP
depends on receiving these messages to perform Path MTU Discovery. With
this feature enabled, TCP will try to send segments without the Don't
Fragment bit set if several retransmissions of a segment go
unacknowledged. If the segment is acknowledged as a result, the MSS will
be decreased and the Don't Fragment bit will be set in future packets on
the connection. Enabling black hole detection increases the maximum
number of retransmissions performed for a given segment. 

Anyone willing to modify their end station to force an MTU of 576 and
discovery of "blackholes" and report the results.

It would be most insightful to see the pre and post registry network
sniffer traces of Outlook traffic.

I don't have time now, but I think this could be the issue. I think it
may be an end station problem.


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Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]


I had the same issue with outlook, its real slow when accessing Imap 
mail. I set the MTU, adjusted other
things, etc..nothing seems to fix this issue for me. I set up Netscape 
6.2x messenger/mail. Installed the
mail client for Imap mail, and it works fine...sometimes it hangs for a 
second or two, but not anything like
outlook

Larry

Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote:

>I may be way out of line, but there aren't any access lists which may
be
>prohibiting the IMAP ports used by exchange, are there. I ran into a
config
>mess with DMZ's and access lists for a beta product test once. And that
was
>what we saw - all worked (http, proxy, etc.) but Exchange was gone.
Turned
>out to be some Checkpoint and access-list tweaking.
>
>
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>From: JohnZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:43 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Confused about MTU size [7:54689]
>
>Thanks Priscilla, I definitely don't mind even if it was criticisim
>especially coming from some one of your caliber. Thank you for the
pointers
>and I will do some more deligant troubleshooting. And yes Mike it is
outlook
>that refuses to work properly. There is no problem browsing, home user
is
>able to copy files of all sizes with out any problems. We can ping the
email
>server from the user's workstation heck I am even pc-anwhered into his
>machine. But as soon we start outlook it just hangs. I will further
>investigate the router's config although it's using a template that's
>working elsewhere under different service provider without a hitch.
>""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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>
>>I agree that it doesn't sound like an MTU problem. There are often
>>
>problems
>
>>with MTU when DSL, VPNs, tunnels, etc. are used, so people might jump
to
>>that conclusion. But e-mail messages are often very short and would
easily
>>fit into most MTUs even after overhead. To test whether it's an MTU
>>
>problem,
>
>>try some oversized pings.
>>
>>The MTU issue occurs when a full-sized packet arrives at an interface
that
>>needs to squeeze it into an MTU along with the overhead. The interface
>>
>could
>
>>fragment, but maybe the application or transport layer set the Don't
>>Fragment bit. Quite a few applications do t

RE: CCNP Recert [7:54787]

2002-10-03 Thread ccnp ccnp2002

It may not work, what with all these new things that have been added.

But I would imagine that if you have some money and get good practice exams,
it should do the job, especially if you have been working with the
technologies.

The best thing of all is that knowledge which you stuggled to get... you
just need to refresh, even if you have not been using it!

Good Luck


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CCNP Recert [7:54787]

2002-10-03 Thread Slater Sean

I need to recert within a month and don't see any test engines or books. I
have passed my R/S CCIE written and now need to recert my CCNP Since my lab
is a ways off and was wondering if the IE books help with this ?

My CCNP material is out dated since I tested with version 1. Do you think
the original ACRC, CLSC, CIT & CMTD will work for the new recert test ?

TIA

Sean


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RE: Cisco Security Specialist 1: To self-study or [7:54767]

2002-10-03 Thread Doug Oh

Clearly, you cannot do DMZ scenarios, or get a real feel for multiple
security levels.  Also hot standby is not allowed.  However, that said, it
is completely compatible with the larger units' IOS, allowing you to use the
current version and get hands-on feel for how it differs from the
conventional IOS (and how it is evolving to minimize those differences, for
that matter).  It also supports VPN, the standard gui config tool and other
goodies.  It was enough for me.

Another option might be the FrankenPIX, although I have never personally
attempted that.


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RE: switching exam [7:54782]

2002-10-03 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Here's some advice for the SWTCH 640-604 exam.

Read and understand the following link (watch for wrap):

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/si/casi/ca6000/tech/campn_wp.htm


Shawn K.

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> Subject:  switching exam [7:54782]
> 
> Hello
> 
> I am going to give the ccnp switching exam. Could anyone help me with some
> important notes about the exam or some important advice about practice,
> what
> simulator to use ..
> 
> Thank you 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Need help on BGP [7:54737]

2002-10-03 Thread Silju Pillai

HI Binoy,

   Try to get the book "Internet Routing Architectures" by Basam Halabi if
you want to study BGP in depth.

  You can also try the following link.

   http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/bgp-toc.html

regards


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CCIE Practical exam question [7:54783]

2002-10-03 Thread Tim Champion

Does anyone know if the CCIE practical exam is 'regional specific', i.e.
will I need in-depth knowledge of T-1 & T-3 services despite living and
working in the UK?

Many thanks in advance

Tim




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switching exam [7:54782]

2002-10-03 Thread Vladimir Rusu

Hello

I am going to give the ccnp switching exam. Could anyone help me with some
important notes about the exam or some important advice about practice, what
simulator to use ..

Thank you 



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Still worth it ? - was: RE: Lookee Lookie - new [7:54781]

2002-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

As you probably noticed that quite a number of CCIEs are jobless in the US,
and seems like Cisco professionals has been oversupplied to the market. 
Since this is the case, I would say the certification is losing its
attractiveness.

As always, a bit advice.  Take and pass the cert only when you know the
stuff, and live with the credentials instead of tainting it.

A paper cert will last only 5-10 mins in technical interview.

My 2 cents


Regards,
Leonard Ong, CISSP, CSS-1, CCSE, MCSE, 
 MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, NSA, LCP
Network Security Specialist, APAC
NOKIA

Email.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: ext Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lookee Lookie - new certifications [7:54435]


Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
> 
> >Robert Edmonds wrote:
> >>
> >>  Here's another benefit I see from certifications like this:
> >>  there are
> >>  things that all of us know how to do, but if asked to walk
> >>  someone through
> >>  it over the phone, couldn't do it.  For example, for me it
> >>  would be DNS
> >>  configuration.  I can do it, but I can't tell YOU how to do
> >>  it.  I know it
> >>  just well enough to kind of stumble through it and get it
> >>  working.  And I
> >>  can get it working CORRECTLY.  It's just that I am weak in
> that
> >>  area.  With
> >>  a performance based test in a lab situation, I could pass by
> >>  getting it to
> >>  work, but I may not be able to answer the question
> correctly on
> >>  paper.  And,
> >>  in my opinion, it's more important to be able to "walk the
> >>  walk" than "talk
> >>  the talk".  What do you think?
> >
> >Talking the talk is very important too. Think proactively.
> Hopefully, before
> >long, you'll be moving up in the world. If you can train your
> replacement to
> >do what you did, then you can move up with fewer impediments.
> If you can't
> >train a replacement, then you may not be able to move up, or
> you may move up
> >and continually get calls from your replacement asking for
> your help.
> 
> Increasingly, I like my conceit of talking the walk. 

I should have said talking the walk. That's what I had in mind.

> Talking
> the talk
> may be more characteristic of sales. Remember, some of the
> important
> distinctions between a seller of used cars and an account
> executive
> for networking are that the seller of used cars both knows when
> he is
> lying and how to drive.
> 
> Walking the talk also makes more sense -- it is the ability to
> listen
> and learn, and can be generalized to researching who has talked
> about
> what.

Or it could be trying to implement what that talkative sales person sold
you?? ;-)

Priscilla
> 
> >
> >
> >I have worked with engineers who have never given any thought
> to learning,
> >training, etc. You know the type who can only work with
> concrete things and
> >considers any social science like education or psychology to
> be hogwash. ;-)
> 
> Were it not for social sciences like anthropology, you and I
> couldn't
> be tribal elders or shamans.
> 
> >These types get stuck doing all sorts of mundane things that
> are beneath
> >them because they can't explain to someone else how to do it.
> This probably
> >doesn't apply to you, but it's just something to think about.
> >
> >It's funny that you use DNS as an example. I'm working with an
> engineer
> >right now who has said he will show me his DNS tasks but he
> has failed to do
> >this. I wonder if it's because he only does it once in a while
> and is afraid
> >that he won't be able to explain it to me. I'll try to go easy
> on him, now
> >that you have helped me see his side of the story. :-)
> >
> >Priscilla




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RE: Cisco Security Specialist 1: To self-study or not to [7:54780]

2002-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

As usual, if you have chance to practice hand-ons alot, you may pass with
self-study and vice versa.



Regards,
Leonard Ong, CISSP, CSS-1, CCSE, MCSE, 
 MCDBA, CCNP, CCDP, NSA, LCP
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-Original Message-
From: ext Eric Mwambaji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:35 AM
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Subject: Cisco Security Specialist 1: To self-study or not to [7:54756]


I am interested in pursuing the CSS1 designation. Can
anyone tell me if this cert is a bear without the
necessary training. 

There is a slight chance I may be able to get my
employer to spring for the classes but I need to find
out more before I start 'pulling teeth'.

I have self-studied up to the CCNP level but I'm not
sure I'll be able to get to all gear I need for this
cert. Any input is appreciated.

Thanks
Eric CCNP

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RE: CCIE R&S Written Study Partner in Stockton,CA [7:54599]

2002-10-03 Thread Andrew Fernandez

There is gotta be someone near Stockton!!! 


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ARP -- UNIXWARE servers [7:54778]

2002-10-03 Thread Marian Iordanescu

I Have an issue I'm curious about.
I've set up HSRP on a 6513. We have more servers with Unixware O.S.
installed. These machines learn all MAC addresses from all
routers not one from active router.


Thank you for your input.

Marian


 
The IT department of the Romanian Bank for Development




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