CSS1/CCSP [7:58241]
Hello every one, I am planning to go with CCSP. I need your advices mention about study/exams taking sequence. Sincerely, Tu Do. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58241&t=58241 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need info on CSU/DSU [7:58240]
Hi All
I have the following configuration for setting up the lab.
(c3660)[NM2CE1B]--->csu/dsucsu/dsu-->[NM2CE1B]{c3660)
To my understanding NM2CE1B requires external csu/dsu.
If anyone have the information on this, could u please share your ideas
with me regarding type of csu/dsu
does it require external or internal is available and about the csu/dsu
product.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Deepak
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RE: IGRP for 350-001 [7:58174]
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RE: Procurve vs. Catalyst [7:58225]
Another point, in a big network how does HP match Backbonefast Uplinkfast PVLANning In a big network, these things are VERY important, and I think they are cisco proprietary ? Can someone please comment, on STP tweaks that can be done with HP (any stp ieee compliant switch) to equal what cisco does with the first two on my list.. Also, for security I think PVLAN's are the coolest thing I have seen in a while. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58236&t=58225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Procurve vs. Catalyst [7:58225]
I faced this situation (more or less) short time ago, I had to decided whether using HP 5300XL or not, they are Layer 3 and cheaper than a Cisco 4000, but finally I decided not buy them because, afaik, they don't implement VRRP or HSRP. Other reason: I think you can't use CSWI, because you need to have cdp enabled. In this list there are people who knows a lot more than me about hp switches (I think I talked with Larry Letterman 6 months ago about them) perhaps they could help you Edward Sohn wrote: > > i'm looking for ways to convince my customer to > migrate to an all-cisco environment, which would > entail swapping out all the procurve switches > installed on the LAN edge. The rest of the network is > almost exclusively Cisco (routers and firewalls). > > obviously, i know i could utilize the existing hp's as > they are, but i think it's a good idea to simplify and > standardize on one brand due to managment, > capabilities, and possibly other issues, especially > since it's financially feasible for this company. > > Has anyone ever come across this situation before? > Have you been successful in recommending cisco over hp > to your client/manager? if so, can you share what > facts and performance differences you found regarding > this subject? any other information to help me out? > > thanks, > > ed > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58235&t=58225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lab Configuration Samples [7:58179]
I found the book CCIE Practical Studies by Karl Solie ,Cisco Press to be quite useful for beginners . Try there scenarios , esp the ones towards the end of the book. ""Iran Irani"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello! > > Does anybody know, where I can finde Lab configuration samples. > > I have: > > 3x Cisco 2501 > 2x Cisco 2502 > 3x Cisco 2503 > 1x Cisco 2504 > 3x Cisco 2514 > 1x Cisco 2523 > 3x Cisco 1605R > 3x Cisco 1720 > > Thanks > > Mehrdad > > > > > > _ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58234&t=58179 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there any switch capable of assigning IP addres [7:58233]
""Oliver Hensel"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi. > > I'd simply use secured switchports fixed to one MAC address > and a DHCP server which gives out IP addresses based on MAC > address. You could also use static ARP entries (this would > need to be done to all the machines on the network though). > > But I can not really see a scalable Solution. 100 stations? > Error prone and a maintenance nightmare. > > Perhaps someone has a more elegant solution? I'm almost certain that 802.1x could be useful here. > > Regards, > Oliver > > Aaron Ajello sagte: > > This might sound silly, but could you use a cat 5000 with an RSM or a > > 6000 with an MSM?. Assign each port on the switch to a seperate vlan, > > then create a bunch of one ip address dhcp scopes on the RP and assign > > one scope per vlan. This would have the result of assigning one ip > > address per switch port. You'd probably want to knock the lease time > > way down. > > > > Then everytime a computer boots up, it'll be assigned to whichever vlan > > corresponds to the port it's attached to and the host will automatically > > get the same ip address every time. You could also use a switch without > > an RP and use a router on a stick for the same thing. > > > > Someone out there probably has a better idea. > > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Oliver Hensel > telematis Netzwerke GmbH > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Siemensstrasse 23, D-76275 Ettlingen >Tel: +49 (0) 7243-3448-0, Fax: -498 > visit us: http://telematis.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58233&t=58233 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NetIQ Chariot [7:57710]
It's good for simulating VOIP phone calls while measuring delay, jitter, and packet loss. - Jennifer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58232&t=57710 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3550-24 Vlan [7:58128]
thought some people might find this helpful...it's just one of the thing's i've picked up on groupstudy over the years...been thinking about putting together a little whitepaper on all the little tricks like that but, only problem is i'm short on time and I need to go though about 700 e-mail's collected from groupstudy since '98...damn has it been that long and yet i'm still silently trolling these lists on GSguess that is a tribute in and of itself to mr. paul b. and the quality he's maintained here... - Original Message - From: "The Long and Winding Road" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: Re: 3550-24 Vlan [7:58128] > ""Eric R"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > try this command - quick trick to return interfaces to defaults, works on > > routers too from 12.x on. Nice thing here is quickness. No need to wr er > and > > reload... > > > > 3550(config)#default interface fa0/1 > > > > CL: hey, I really LIKE this command, ER. I've been doing some speed drills, > configuring, unconfiguring, and reconfiguring ether channels, trunks, and > some other stuff on the switches, and this really speeds up the process. > > CL: plus, if I should nake a mistake you-know-where, it will be more easily > corrected. > > CL: sure beats the hell out of cut and paste to notepad, insert a "no" at > the start of each line, then pasting back. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58231&t=58128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is there any switch capable of assigning IP addres [7:58230]
Hi. I'd simply use secured switchports fixed to one MAC address and a DHCP server which gives out IP addresses based on MAC address. You could also use static ARP entries (this would need to be done to all the machines on the network though). But I can not really see a scalable Solution. 100 stations? Error prone and a maintenance nightmare. Perhaps someone has a more elegant solution? Regards, Oliver Aaron Ajello sagte: > This might sound silly, but could you use a cat 5000 with an RSM or a > 6000 with an MSM?. Assign each port on the switch to a seperate vlan, > then create a bunch of one ip address dhcp scopes on the RP and assign > one scope per vlan. This would have the result of assigning one ip > address per switch port. You'd probably want to knock the lease time > way down. > > Then everytime a computer boots up, it'll be assigned to whichever vlan > corresponds to the port it's attached to and the host will automatically > get the same ip address every time. You could also use a switch without > an RP and use a router on a stick for the same thing. > > Someone out there probably has a better idea. > Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Oliver Hensel telematis Netzwerke GmbH mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Siemensstrasse 23, D-76275 Ettlingen Tel: +49 (0) 7243-3448-0, Fax: -498 visit us: http://telematis.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58230&t=58230 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3550-24 Vlan [7:58128]
""Eric R"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > try this command - quick trick to return interfaces to defaults, works on > routers too from 12.x on. Nice thing here is quickness. No need to wr er and > reload... > > 3550(config)#default interface fa0/1 > CL: hey, I really LIKE this command, ER. I've been doing some speed drills, configuring, unconfiguring, and reconfiguring ether channels, trunks, and some other stuff on the switches, and this really speeds up the process. CL: plus, if I should nake a mistake you-know-where, it will be more easily corrected. CL: sure beats the hell out of cut and paste to notepad, insert a "no" at the start of each line, then pasting back. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58229&t=58128 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spanning tree loop [7:58099]
Hi Paul. pauldongso sagte: > Please advise how STP participates in the following scenario and why STP > fails to stop the loop? > > |switch A | > - >|(vlan 7)| (vlan 8) >|| >|| >|(vlan 1)|(vlan 1) > --- > | switch B | > > || | > vlan 1 hosts > > > In short, switch A has two ports configured with vlan 7, vlan 8 > respectively. Swtich B all ports are at default vlan 1. > links between swA and swB are access mode. > > This scenario creates bridging loop. But just can't figure out why STP > fails to stop loop. This actually creates no loop. The issue you have here is that all traffic forwarded on VLAN 7 on SW A gets forwarded to VLAN 8 and vice versa. So you see the MAC addresses on VLAN 8 also on VLAN 7 which could probably confuse the switch. It did never occur to me that someone might be doing that, so I can not tell if this really causes problems. But it's definately no STP loop (especially with PVST etc.). Why don't you trunk the Switches properly? > Thanks in advance. > > Paul best regards, Oliver -- Oliver Hensel telematis Netzwerke GmbH mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Siemensstrasse 23, D-76275 Ettlingen Tel: +49 (0) 7243-3448-0, Fax: -498 visit us: http://telematis.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58228&t=58099 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Procurve vs. Catalyst [7:58225]
Cisco is King, enough said. -Original Message- From: Edward Sohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Procurve vs. Catalyst [7:58225] i'm looking for ways to convince my customer to migrate to an all-cisco environment, which would entail swapping out all the procurve switches installed on the LAN edge. The rest of the network is almost exclusively Cisco (routers and firewalls). obviously, i know i could utilize the existing hp's as they are, but i think it's a good idea to simplify and standardize on one brand due to managment, capabilities, and possibly other issues, especially since it's financially feasible for this company. Has anyone ever come across this situation before? Have you been successful in recommending cisco over hp to your client/manager? if so, can you share what facts and performance differences you found regarding this subject? any other information to help me out? thanks, ed __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58226&t=58225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Procurve vs. Catalyst [7:58225]
i'm looking for ways to convince my customer to migrate to an all-cisco environment, which would entail swapping out all the procurve switches installed on the LAN edge. The rest of the network is almost exclusively Cisco (routers and firewalls). obviously, i know i could utilize the existing hp's as they are, but i think it's a good idea to simplify and standardize on one brand due to managment, capabilities, and possibly other issues, especially since it's financially feasible for this company. Has anyone ever come across this situation before? Have you been successful in recommending cisco over hp to your client/manager? if so, can you share what facts and performance differences you found regarding this subject? any other information to help me out? thanks, ed __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58225&t=58225 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great... Symon Thurlow wrote: >What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. > >-Original Message- >From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] > > >Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need >of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying >them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the >lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have >spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI >and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these >labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just >don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if >it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing >the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some >other router as a frame switch. > >3 2501 >1 2503 isdn >1 2611 >1 2621 >1 2509 >1 1605 with wic 1T >1 804 isdn >1900 enterprise >2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday >Pix501 >Suse8.1 LinuxPC >Redhat8.0PC > >Elijah >http://www.digitalrage.org >Your one stop for Technical News >and HowTo's >= > > This email has been content filtered and > subject to spam filtering. If you consider > this email is unsolicited please forward > the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and > request that the sender's domain be > blocked from sending any further emails. > >= Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58221&t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF Question... [7:58200]
On the originating router: router ospf 1 default-information originate always On the routers which don't accept the advertissement: router ospf 1 distribute-list 10 in access-list 10 deny 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 access-list 10 permit any ""Jeff Specoli"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Anyone know how to advertise a default route (without using static routes) > to only one OSPF router. e.g. > > You have > > RTRA > |AREA0 > | > |AREA0 > RTRB > |AREA1 > | > |AREA1 > RTRC > > > On RTRB you want to advertise a default route to RTC C and only RTC C > without using static routes... > > Thanks... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58224&t=58200 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF Question... [7:58200]
""Jeff Specoli"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Anyone know how to advertise a default route (without using static routes) > to only one OSPF router. e.g. > > You have > > RTRA > |AREA0 > | > |AREA0 > RTRB > |AREA1 > | > |AREA1 > RTRC > > > On RTRB you want to advertise a default route to RTC C and only RTC C > without using static routes... > > Thanks... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58223&t=58200 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Elijah, I use a 2521 as a frame switch in my home lab and that is enough for me. Keep in mind that it only has four serial interfaces, so if you want to do more frame connections, you will need the 2522 or 2523 which have ten serial interfaces. You have more routers in your lab than I do. I only have six routers (not including the 2521). So, the 2521 works well for the number of routers I have. Keith Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58222&t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced. -Original Message- From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58215&t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Yes I did get the switch from you (smile) I have not fired it up yet because I wanted to wait for it to cool to room tempature because I must have gotten it from the only guy that does not have heat in his truck because it was freezing. I will be firing it up this afternoon sometime. He email me offline about the ags+ -Original Message- From: jeff sicuranza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204] Elijah, you got the switch from me... How is it working??? I was wondering if you were going to use it for Cisco cert needs.. Have you seen my online lab rental yet? I can send you some information. I have an AGS + if you are interested. It has 14 serial interfaces, 4 Token-Ring and 2 Ethernet interfaces. I have the latest on in it 11.3a or something like that I have not used it since the summer... Have fun /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58219&t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Traffic Analyses [7:58193]
www.Solarwinds.net It4s a good tool, but expensive. Ypu can download a trial version. Ing. Joseba M. Izaga K|hn Gerente de Operaciones Alfanumeric, S.A. Tel.: (505) 278-3200 Ext. 300 Fax: (505) 278-5857 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.alfanumeric.com.ni - Original Message - From: "Curious" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Traffic Analyses [7:58193] > Is there a tool which gives me very good traffic analyses or traffic > monitering on my Cisco Routers / PIX FW (Serial and Eth) Interfaces, over > Ethernet and T1 Link. > > Thanks, > > > -- > Curious > > MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58218&t=58193 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Elijah, you got the switch from me... How is it working??? I was wondering if you were going to use it for Cisco cert needs.. Have you seen my online lab rental yet? I can send you some information. I have an AGS + if you are interested. It has 14 serial interfaces, 4 Token-Ring and 2 Ethernet interfaces. I have the latest on in it 11.3a or something like that I have not used it since the summer... Have fun /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58217&t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multicast & QOS Book .....Any Good?? [7:58137]
s vermill wrote: > > Steven A. Ridder wrote: > > > > I heard from Wendel Odom himself that he is coming out with a > > Cisco-press > > QoS book for the Exam, so I'd wait for that. I thought I > heard > > December. > > Steven, > > I hope that's the case. It isn't showing up under the "Coming > Soon" area of the Cisco Press website. The existing CP book on > QoS has its share of errata and, in my opinion, isn't all that > well written (lots of "professor-speak"). On the other hand, > it's chock-full of case studies and example configs. They're > helpful, but the errata extend into them as well at times. > > I'm sure Mr. Odom can explain things clearly for us non-PHD > types. Excuse my errata. That was us "non-PhD types." > > > > > > -- > > > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > > > > > ""dre"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > ""Cisco Nuts"" wrote in message > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > Hello, Has anyone used this book by Carl Timm for the CCIP > > MCast and Qos > > > > exam published by Sybex? Is it worth it to buy this book? > > How much does > > > > it help just to pass the exam?Thanks for all your > > input.Sincerely. Ccip: > > > > Multicast > > > > and Qos Study Guide > > > > Carl Timm Jeff Witkowski > > > > > > I would concentrate on passing the BSCI and MPLS tests > before > > bothering > > > with the MCAST/QOS CCIP exam (unless assuming you have > already > > > passed both). I really like Doyle (Vol. II) and Vegesna > > (Cisco Press IP > > > QoS) > > > for studying for this material. The multicast info on > > ftp-eng.cisco.com > > > should > > > suffice for the most part. I would instead recommend > > reading Vegesna and > > > CCO a few times about QoS/MQC/etc and then going through the > > formal > > > training (the web-based training is generally $499) if you > > fail the test > > > once: > > > TRN-QOS: Implementing Cisco QoS (QOS) v1.0 > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours > > > eDesc&COURSE_ID=1583 > > > rather than buying the Sybex book mentioned. > > > > > > -dre > > > > > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58216&t=58137 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multicast & QOS Book .....Any Good?? [7:58137]
Steven A. Ridder wrote: > > I heard from Wendel Odom himself that he is coming out with a > Cisco-press > QoS book for the Exam, so I'd wait for that. I thought I heard > December. Steven, I hope that's the case. It isn't showing up under the "Coming Soon" area of the Cisco Press website. The existing CP book on QoS has its share of errata and, in my opinion, isn't all that well written (lots of "professor-speak"). On the other hand, it's chock-full of case studies and example configs. They're helpful, but the errata extend into them as well at times. I'm sure Mr. Odom can explain things clearly for us non-PHD types. > > -- > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > > > > ""dre"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > ""Cisco Nuts"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hello, Has anyone used this book by Carl Timm for the CCIP > MCast and Qos > > > exam published by Sybex? Is it worth it to buy this book? > How much does > > > it help just to pass the exam?Thanks for all your > input.Sincerely. Ccip: > > > Multicast > > > and Qos Study Guide > > > Carl Timm Jeff Witkowski > > > > I would concentrate on passing the BSCI and MPLS tests before > bothering > > with the MCAST/QOS CCIP exam (unless assuming you have already > > passed both). I really like Doyle (Vol. II) and Vegesna > (Cisco Press IP > > QoS) > > for studying for this material. The multicast info on > ftp-eng.cisco.com > > should > > suffice for the most part. I would instead recommend > reading Vegesna and > > CCO a few times about QoS/MQC/etc and then going through the > formal > > training (the web-based training is generally $499) if you > fail the test > > once: > > TRN-QOS: Implementing Cisco QoS (QOS) v1.0 > > > http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cours > > eDesc&COURSE_ID=1583 > > rather than buying the Sybex book mentioned. > > > > -dre > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58214&t=58137 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF Question... [7:58200]
Yes; however, the default route will be sent to all routers in the OSPF domain. I was wondering if a route-map or something similar might be used to ensure only one router can get the default route info and no others in the ospf domain will get it... Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58213&t=58200 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Little Help Please blocking pop ups and ads wi [7:58155]
How about redirecting: Fake out the name resolution (i.e. doubleclick.com) from the redirector on a particular web page. Use your internal DNS (or host file) browser to resolve the advertising site name to an internal web server (your own) and then have your internal web server respond with a tiny .gif image which displays as a blank space on your web browser. This controls what is displayed on your browser and drastically reduces the amount of data being downloaded from your ISP connection because you are only delivering a small .gif Just an idea... //art - Original Message - From: "Brad Ellis" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Little Help Please blocking pop ups and ads wi [7:58155] > If you stop going to those porn websites, you wont have that problem! :) > > How many computers do you have at home? I would just put pop-up blocking > programs on each of the computers at home that you want it on. You dont > have more than 5 computers you use to surf do ya? > > thanks, > -Brad Ellis > CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) > Network Learning Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) > Voice: 702-968-5100 > FAX: 702-968-5104 > > ""Elijah Savage III"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > All, > > > > I know you can block ActiveX and Ads with url filtering on the pix > > combined with websense. Well using it at home websense is definitely > > overkill. I was wondering if there is another way to block this garbage > > with the pix without it, I would hate to put software on each computer > > in the house for this purpose. > > > > Little off topic but I am sure this scenario could be a questioned asked > > at work or possibly on the CCIE Security track (smile) > > > > Thank you any and all help appreciated. > > > > > > Elijah > > http://www.digitalrage.org > > Your one stop for all Technical News > > and HowTo's Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58211&t=58155 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some other router as a frame switch. 3 2501 1 2503 isdn 1 2611 1 2621 1 2509 1 1605 with wic 1T 1 804 isdn 1900 enterprise 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday Pix501 Suse8.1 LinuxPC Redhat8.0PC Elijah http://www.digitalrage.org Your one stop for Technical News and HowTo's Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58204&t=58204 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF Question... [7:58200]
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EIGRP and Secondary IP Address - Strange Behavior! [7:58210]
Everyone, I have added a secondary IP address to the fastethernet port on my 7206 router to make it easier to convert to a new IP scheme. I put my PC and new, non-production device on the new scheme for testing. I can see everything when i browse network neighborhood (win2k pc, win2k domain, i already checked wins, dns, etc.) except my own pc and the other pc on the new scheme. i can ping myself, the new default gateway and everything else on the lan just fine. the problem is, no other systems can see OR ping my system. to make things even more confusing, other systems CAN ping the new dafault gateway (10.75.3.1), but NOT my pc (10.75.3.100). what am i doing wrong? eigrp is our routing protocol. do i need to add any routes or anything to get this to work right? thanks, kris. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58210&t=58210 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic Analyses [7:58193]
~~~ Mahmut YILDIRICI A=F0 Tasar=FDm ve =DCr=FCn Y=F6netmeni VIS VERI ILETISIM SISTEMLERI SAN. VE TIC. A.S. Abidindaver Sokak 3/10 06680 CANKAYA/ ANKARA TEL: +90 312 4413606 FAX: +90 312 4397185 -Original Message- From: Symon Thurlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 6:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Traffic Analyses [7:58193] Do a google for MRTG or RRDTOOL -Original Message- From: Curious [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]=20 Sent: 27 November 2002 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Traffic Analyses [7:58193] Is there a tool which gives me very good traffic analyses or traffic monitering on my Cisco Routers / PIX FW (Serial and Eth) Interfaces, over Ethernet and T1 Link. Thanks, -- Curious MCSE, CCNP =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of MAHMUT YILDIRICI.vcf] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58209&t=58193 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checking temperature in router [7:58189]
Yes Avinash it does, on certain platforms of which I don't have a comprehensive list: C7507A>sh env all Arbiter type 2, backplane type 7507MX (id 4) Power supply #1 is 700W AC (id 2), power supply #2 is 700W AC (id 2) Active fault conditions: PS1 Active trip points: none 15 of 15 soft shutdowns remaining before hard shutdown 0123456 Dbus slots: X card inlet hotpoint exhaust RSP(2) 20C/68F 23C/73F 26C/78F RSP(3) 19C/66F 23C/73F 26C/78F Shutdown temperature source is 'hotpoint' on RSP(2), requested RSP(2) +12V measured at 11.84 +5V measured at 5.13 -12V measured at -11.89 +24V measured at 23.68 +2.5 reference is 2.47 C7507A> Avinash Tadimalla wrote: > > not sure, but doesn't show env work? > avinash > > At 07:25 AM 11/27/2002, sam sneed wrote: > >Is there any command in IOS to check the operating temperature inside the > >router? -- David Madland CCIE# 2016 Sr. Network Engineer Qwest Communications 612-664-3367 "You don't make the poor richer by making the rich poorer." --Winston Churchill Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58208&t=58189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic Analyses [7:58193]
MRTG Cricket -Original Message- From: Curious [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Traffic Analyses [7:58193] Is there a tool which gives me very good traffic analyses or traffic monitering on my Cisco Routers / PIX FW (Serial and Eth) Interfaces, over Ethernet and T1 Link. Thanks, -- Curious MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58207&t=58193 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: checking temperature in router [7:58189]
Lower-end routers usually don't have thermometers ... I think the lowest ones available with this function are 7200's, but I might be mistaken. Marko. > -Original Message- > From: sam sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: mipvikudagur, 27. nsvember 2002. 16:27 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: checking temperature in router [7:58189] > > > I am checking on lower end router, 2500 but it is not available. [...] Tvlvupsstur ~essi er fra Margmiplun hf., Supurlandsbraut 4, Reykjavmk. Fyrirvara og leipbeiningar til viptakenda tvlvupssts fra Margmiplun hf. er ap finna a vefsmpunni http://www.mi.is/fyrirvari Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58206&t=58189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: checking temperature in router [7:58189]
>From a 3640: GATEWAY#sh env ? allAll environmental monitor parameters last Last environmental monitor parameters table Temperature and voltage ranges | Output modifiers GATEWAY#sh env table %This option not available on this platform GATEWAY#sh env all Power Supply: Redundant Power System is not present. Board Temperature: normal. Symon -Original Message- From: Avinash Tadimalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 16:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: checking temperature in router [7:58189] not sure, but doesn't show env work? avinash At 07:25 AM 11/27/2002, sam sneed wrote: >Is there any command in IOS to check the operating temperature inside >the router? = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58205&t=58189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Traffic Analyses [7:58193]
Do a google for MRTG or RRDTOOL -Original Message- From: Curious [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 27 November 2002 16:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Traffic Analyses [7:58193] Is there a tool which gives me very good traffic analyses or traffic monitering on my Cisco Routers / PIX FW (Serial and Eth) Interfaces, over Ethernet and T1 Link. Thanks, -- Curious MCSE, CCNP = This email has been content filtered and subject to spam filtering. If you consider this email is unsolicited please forward the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request that the sender's domain be blocked from sending any further emails. = Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58203&t=58193 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Catalyst 35xx question [7:58202]
If you have multiple VLANs defined on a 35xx switch, do you *have* to create an SVI (interface VLANx) for each VLAN? Thanks... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58202&t=58202 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checking temperature in router [7:58189]
I am checking on lower end router, 2500 but it is not available. ""Avinash Tadimalla"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > not sure, but doesn't show env work? > avinash > > At 07:25 AM 11/27/2002, sam sneed wrote: > >Is there any command in IOS to check the operating temperature inside the > >router? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58201&t=58189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OSPF Question... [7:58200]
Anyone know how to advertise a default route (without using static routes) to only one OSPF router. e.g. You have RTRA |AREA0 | |AREA0 RTRB |AREA1 | |AREA1 RTRC On RTRB you want to advertise a default route to RTC C and only RTC C without using static routes... Thanks... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58200&t=58200 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checking temperature in router [7:58189]
not sure, but doesn't show env work? avinash At 07:25 AM 11/27/2002, sam sneed wrote: >Is there any command in IOS to check the operating temperature inside the >router? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58199&t=58189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SONET/SDH Restoration ! [7:58082]
Jimmy wrote: > > You mentioned that the GUI will automatically choose the best > path and build > the cross-connect. So how does it build the link? What is the > criteria for > choosing it? Could you explain it to me. (Link from A to C). > The problem is > i am veri curious on how the link is chosen. For example, > shortest delay, > BW, etc? > > Cheers ! Again, it's entirely up to you or the proprietary code behind that GUI. As far as I know, the issue isn't addressed in any standard. In most cases, it's safe to assume the GUI will choose least number of intermediate hops. In your example, given that the number of hops would be the same via either direction, there is likely some arbitrary toss of the coin. All clockwise or all counterclockwise...something along those lines. What's important to remember is that there is no one-size-fits-all anwser in a production network. To illustrate, say you could sell your protection bandwidth to a customer with low-priority needs. Say that the customer has facilities geographically in the neighborhood of nodes A & B. In that case, you'd put your working A - C traffic via the A, D, C route. In the case of a fiber break between A & D or D & C, traffic would wrap back around the ring and kick off the low-priority A - B traffic that was "re-sold." See what I mean? There isn't a firm answer to your question. Regards, Scott > > > ""s vermill"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Jimmy wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > Sorry if the following question sound stupid to you. let > say i > > > have 4 nodes. > > > > > > B > > >/ \ > > > AC > > >\ / > > > D > > > > > > If BLSR is employed, how do i know in which direction is the > > > packet flow > > > from A to C. > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58198&t=58082 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please confirm (conf#b14c3242f3ba579bf40cf8cf372f1608) [7:58197]
conf#b14c3242f3ba579bf40cf8cf372f1608 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58197&t=58197 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please confirm (conf#b14c3242f3ba579bf40cf8cf372f1608) [7:58196]
Yes, I confirm that I am the poster of the message. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58196&t=58196 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: checking temperature in router [7:58189]
> Is there any command in IOS to check the operating > temperature inside the > router? On routers capable of measuring: router> show environment all Marko. Tvlvupsstur ~essi er fra Margmiplun hf., Supurlandsbraut 4, Reykjavmk. Fyrirvara og leipbeiningar til viptakenda tvlvupssts fra Margmiplun hf. er ap finna a vefsmpunni http://www.mi.is/fyrirvari Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58195&t=58189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: CCIP MCast and Qos Exam......How tough?? [7:58161]
is there a good book out for this test > > From: "Mike Bernico" > Date: 2002/11/27 Wed AM 10:17:28 EST > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIP MCast and Qos Exam..How tough?? [7:58161] > > I've taken it. I believed I passed it first try although I recall it was > difficult because of it's huge scope. It's not nearly as hard as the > Optical test, it's pretty much on par with the MPLS test. I would say that > it gets fairly detailed in both QoS and Multicast. I would know more than > just an overview. I definitely recall it being very theory oriented. If > you follow the outline I'm sure you'll be fine. > > Good Luck! > > > > --- > Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Illinois Century Network http://www.illinois.net > (217) 557-6555 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cisco Nuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:38 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: CCIP MCast and Qos Exam..How tough?? [7:58161] > > > > > > Hello, Has anyone taken the CCIP Mcast and Qos exam? Need to know how > > tough it is going to be. Do they drill you in the intricacies > > of PIM-SM, > > DM, Diffserv using DSCP, NBar etc. Now, I have been told my some that > > since this exam is like 2 exams combined into one, the exam questions > > are going to be more general and just need a real good overview of all > > the Qos and MCast topics. Is this any true? Please advise.Thank > > you.Sincerely, CN > > > > -- > > -- > > > > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online Greg Owens 202-398-2552 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58194&t=58161 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Traffic Analyses [7:58193]
Is there a tool which gives me very good traffic analyses or traffic monitering on my Cisco Routers / PIX FW (Serial and Eth) Interfaces, over Ethernet and T1 Link. Thanks, -- Curious MCSE, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58193&t=58193 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco CSS load setting [7:58171]
I've seen similiar things happen here. The problem was interface errors on switchports. Check the port where the CSS is plugged into switch and where "high load" webserver is plugged for interface errors. The CSS seems to be very sensititve to lost packets when calculating load so I'd check this out. ""sukhesh T"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi All, > > I have a pair of CSS 11150 switched (vrrp configured for redundancy) > configured for load balancing between 2 web application server (Layer 5).The > setup up was working alright and we tested the load balancing and the > request used were going to both servers on round robin. > > Now I am facing problem that the request is sent to only one server. When I > see "show load" it shows for one server1 as 2 and server2 as 255 and that > is the reason request is not being sent to server2. The CSS is using all > default configuration related to load treshold and teardown timer etc. > > Can anyone tell me how to reset the load value on the CSS..or any other info > on this will be highly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Sukhdev. > > > _ > The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58190&t=58171 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
checking temperature in router [7:58189]
Is there any command in IOS to check the operating temperature inside the router? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58189&t=58189 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Documentation CD [7:58188]
Many CCIEs have stated that they read the documentation CD. What does this mean ? The are many topics and subjects listed. Which topics or sections are they referring. The documentation is massive. Where is the starting point ? Any suggestions ? Thanks Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58188&t=58188 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIP MCast and Qos Exam......How tough?? [7:58161]
I've taken it. I believed I passed it first try although I recall it was difficult because of it's huge scope. It's not nearly as hard as the Optical test, it's pretty much on par with the MPLS test. I would say that it gets fairly detailed in both QoS and Multicast. I would know more than just an overview. I definitely recall it being very theory oriented. If you follow the outline I'm sure you'll be fine. Good Luck! --- Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED] Illinois Century Network http://www.illinois.net (217) 557-6555 > -Original Message- > From: Cisco Nuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCIP MCast and Qos Exam..How tough?? [7:58161] > > > Hello, Has anyone taken the CCIP Mcast and Qos exam? Need to know how > tough it is going to be. Do they drill you in the intricacies > of PIM-SM, > DM, Diffserv using DSCP, NBar etc. Now, I have been told my some that > since this exam is like 2 exams combined into one, the exam questions > are going to be more general and just need a real good overview of all > the Qos and MCast topics. Is this any true? Please advise.Thank > you.Sincerely, CN > > -- > -- > > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58187&t=58161 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco CSS load setting [7:58171]
Perhaps try disabling and reactivating the service. That might help reset the load calculations. As I recall, a load of 255 means that it's unreachable but I don't know that for certain. When you see this, have you tried verifying that the logical web server associated with that service is actually accepting requests? If it is, can you determine if there would be any cause for performance issues on that server? I don't remember, is there a version of the show load command that will give you details about the load calculation for a specific service? Regards, John http://home.attbi.com/~neiby >>> "sukhesh T" 11/27/02 12:25:38 AM >>> Hi All, I have a pair of CSS 11150 switched (vrrp configured for redundancy) configured for load balancing between 2 web application server (Layer 5).The setup up was working alright and we tested the load balancing and the request used were going to both servers on round robin. Now I am facing problem that the request is sent to only one server. When I see "show load" it shows for one server1 as 2 and server2 as 255 and that is the reason request is not being sent to server2. The CSS is using all default configuration related to load treshold and teardown timer etc. Can anyone tell me how to reset the load value on the CSS..or any other info on this will be highly appreciated. Regards, Sukhdev. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58186&t=58171 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 08:04, p b wrote: > Thanks. > > Went back and read through some of the relevant parts of > the RFC. I believe there is no routing loop issue if an ABR > was to consider summary LSAs received from non-zero areas. > (where "consider" means install routes from these type 3s. > "consider", above, does not mean propogate the summary info > into area 0). I believe this would maintain the DV properties > of the OSPF two-level hierarchy because the ABR would not > re-originate the information that was already re-orignated > at another ABR. A subtle point here. Type 3 summaries, when sent inter area, are not flooded, but regenerated. The ABR generates them by looking at routes in the routing table. Hence, if the ABR put routes in the table from non backbone type 3's, those routes would be prone to readvertisement into the baackbone. > > In fact, if the ABR did install routes based on the non-0 summary > LSA information, better paths to destinations might be possible. However, since the ABR doesn't advertise these better paths > (remember, no taking non-0 summary info and sending into area0) > these better paths are not visible to the backbone area. Can you give an example of this? If all ABRs send accurate summaries to the backbone, from the backbones perspective, routing should be optimal. The only time it becomes less is is when the ABR coalesces information The > result with an ABR using non-zero summary information in its > routing table is that some intra area0 traffic might unexpectedly > transit a non-zero area. "Unexpectedly" here means that the > area0 SPF would compute a path to the destination, and from > the SPF perspective, traffic would remain on area0. But when > the traffic hit the ABR, it might forward the packets over > the non-0 area as that's a better path towards the destination. Ok, I'm losing you a bit here. Maybe an example would help. Forwarding decisions in OSPF are either source to destination, source to ABR, ABR to ABR, or ABR to destination. In all of these cases, the source and final or intermediary source shared an identical LSDB from which they will calculate similar SPF trees. Hence, there shouldn't be a case in a stable network where two nodes in the same area find a different best path through the area. In the Area 0 case, assuming the traffic is destined to a non-0 area, the ABRs simply forward that traffic to the nearest ABR, upon which all ABRs should agree with the exception of multi-abr areas whos ABRs will not be able to forward back toward the backbone due to route preference. This might be more confusing than your paragraph though ;-) > A virtual link is the mechanism to "formalize" the use > of a non-0 area for transit. The benefit of the VL mechanism > over the thinking above is that a VL allows routers in area0 to > be cognizant of the non-0 area as another way to reach destinations > in area0 and thus include these costs into it's LSDB and SPF calcs. > > Compare an ABR including summary LSA information in it's routing > table (what I've been asking about) and an ABR at the end if a > VL. How is the routing information received at this ABR > different? The virtual link allows LSAs to flood through the non-backbone area. These LSAs allow the backbone area databases to remain identical for all routers in the area which is a necessity for link state protocols. Breaking this will more than likely lead to routing instability. Certainly in some basic topologies, you might be able to relax some rules and still provide stable routing, but the question is, what are you gaining with this topology? > Consider two ABRs: area0ABR1area1ABR2area0 > > If the paritioning of area 0 gives ya the willies, assume > they're connected together. It really doesn't matter. It matters entirely as you either have backbone LDSB synchronization or you don't. > Consider ABR2. It will see type 1-5 LSAs from it's area 0. > If ABR1 and ABR2 had a VL between them, ABR2 would pass all > of these LSAs, intact, to ABR1 over the VL. Not quite true. ABR2 will not flood type 5 LSAs over a VL. However, since area 1 is not a stub, ABR 1 would see the type 5's anyway. ABR1 would be able > to use area1 to send traffic to ABR2's area0. > > Assume there is no VL between ABR1 and ABR2. Instead, ABR1 > learns about ABR2's area 0 via type 3-5 LSAs from ABR2. Well, > type 3 LSAs are really the info found in type 1-2 LSAs but > with just the RID information reflecting ABR2 instead of the > originating router's RID. In your simple topology, this might work ok. However, your topology is simple. I've never really thought about the behavior you describe, mostly because I can't see where it makes sense, but I could imagine lots of control loops, particularly in areas with multi-abrs. When networks transition, you'd likely run into counting to infinity issues which OSPF doesn't really have a mechanism to deal with (ie hop co
RE: Preparing for Support exam [7:58156]
I just passed support the other day and used Exam Cram, Cisco Press and Boson. The Exam Cram is good, Cisco Press is good, but just for reference. I had heard this was the toughest of the CCNP test, but to me it was the easiest. If you take this test last, the preparation for the others will end up helping you a lot. Know your debug and show commands for not just IP, but IPX and Appletalk as well. Also, go through the exam topics listed on the cisco site. It seems like a cliche, but I successfully used that to focus my studying. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58181&t=58156 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SONET/SDH Restoration ! [7:58082]
You mentioned that the GUI will automatically choose the best path and build the cross-connect. So how does it build the link? What is the criteria for choosing it? Could you explain it to me. (Link from A to C). The problem is i am veri curious on how the link is chosen. For example, shortest delay, BW, etc? Cheers ! ""s vermill"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Jimmy wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Sorry if the following question sound stupid to you. let say i > > have 4 nodes. > > > > B > >/ > > AC > > / > >D > > > > If BLSR is employed, how do i know in which direction is the > > packet flow > > from A to C. > > Depends on how you build the cross-connects in the SONET boxes. Many > products, such as Cisco's, use point-and-click GUIs that automatically > choose the best path and build the cross-connects for you. Or you can > manually build them however you like. It simply requires that you move from > box to box through the ring and cross connect incoming STS so-and-so to > outgoing line-group so-and-so. > > >Should it flow through B or D? What is the > > criteria for > > choosing the path? > > It's really your choice. A better illustrative scenario would be traffic > between A and B. As a general rule, you'd choose the direct path vs. going > through C & D - especially since you can "re-use" protection bandwith for > low-priority traffic. Say you establish an STS in slot 6 between A & B. > You can now establish an STS in slot 6 between A & D, D & C, and C & B. Of > course, when there's a ring failure, those re-used connections are killed so > that the primary traffic can be protected. This varies somewhat by vendor > though. It's just a generalization. > > > For BLSR/2, since it mentioned half BW for transmission and > > half for > > protection, therefore i can say the transmission rate is BW/2 > > rite? > > Sorta. Refer back to what I said earlier. But yes, in its purest form, a > 2-fiber BLSR ring uses half of the ring capacity for working traffic and the > other half is reserved for protection (in an OC-48, STS1-1 would be > protected by STS1-25, STS1-2 would be protected by STS1-26...). But traffic > engineering in the SONET world often isn't as simple as it seems. > Revenue-generating rings are usually provisioned quite differently than, > say, a high-priority "mission" ring. > > > Any information will be appreciated !If possible, send me notes > > abt it so > > that i can have a better idea. Thanks alot! > > www.sonet.com used to be a good source for info but appears to have been > highjacked. Just use a good search engine and your bound to find plenty of > info on ring architecture. > > > > > Cheers ! > > Same to ya. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58172&t=58082 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 IDS modules in a 6509 [7:58126]
Yes, you can use as many IDS modules as you have free slots for (minus the sups of course). Each IDS is managed independently, one does not affect the other. You would, of course, use different VACL's to point different traffic to each IDS blade, so each IDS "sees" different traffic. HTH, Kent At 07:05 PM 11/26/2002 +, Marcos Casado Castaqo wrote: >Maybe this is a stupid question, but can I use 2 IDS modules in a single >switch 6509 chassis to increase scanning throughput? If yes, how does it >work? > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MetroRed Telecomunicagues Ltda. > PanAmirica ParK > Av. Guido Caloi, 1000 - Ed. 3 -1: andar > CEP 04578-903 - Sco Paulo - SP - Brasil > Tel.: (5511) 5852-2503 - Fax: (5511) 5501-8777 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58184&t=58126 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco IP Phones: CP-30VIP [7:58183]
Hello Group, Just wondering if anyone was familiar with the CP-30VIP IP Phones and how they are different to the current 7000 series phones. I was looking at using them to learn IP Telephony, just wondered if they would be ok. Thanks Albert Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58183&t=58183 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Little Help Please blocking pop ups and ads [7:58182]
Elijah, Not real easy to do with a PIX. You could setup ACLs to block access to all the big marketing companies like doubleclick.net, etc. But that would be a never-ending battle. An alternative is running Mozilla as your browser. It's got an option to turn off unrequested windows. I'm not sure, the newer Netscapes might do it now as well. It works fine. http://www.mozilla.org Chuck Church CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58182&t=58182 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lab Configuration Samples [7:58179]
You can try www.fatkid.com They have config samples for Frame-Relay Access server, X.25 and some more. Also look at www.ipexpert.net I am interested in buying their work book and researching it to see if it is worth the price. Hope this helps Reza ""Iran Irani"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello! > > Does anybody know, where I can finde Lab configuration samples. > > I have: > > 3x Cisco 2501 > 2x Cisco 2502 > 3x Cisco 2503 > 1x Cisco 2504 > 3x Cisco 2514 > 1x Cisco 2523 > 3x Cisco 1605R > 3x Cisco 1720 > > Thanks > > Mehrdad > > > > > > _ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58180&t=58179 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF ABR question [7:57990]
Thanks. Went back and read through some of the relevant parts of the RFC. I believe there is no routing loop issue if an ABR was to consider summary LSAs received from non-zero areas. (where "consider" means install routes from these type 3s. "consider", above, does not mean propogate the summary info into area 0). I believe this would maintain the DV properties of the OSPF two-level hierarchy because the ABR would not re-originate the information that was already re-orignated at another ABR. In fact, if the ABR did install routes based on the non-0 summary LSA information, better paths to destinations might be possible. However, since the ABR doesn't advertise these better paths (remember, no taking non-0 summary info and sending into area0) these better paths are not visible to the backbone area. The result with an ABR using non-zero summary information in its routing table is that some intra area0 traffic might unexpectedly transit a non-zero area. "Unexpectedly" here means that the area0 SPF would compute a path to the destination, and from the SPF perspective, traffic would remain on area0. But when the traffic hit the ABR, it might forward the packets over the non-0 area as that's a better path towards the destination. A virtual link is the mechanism to "formalize" the use of a non-0 area for transit. The benefit of the VL mechanism over the thinking above is that a VL allows routers in area0 to be cognizant of the non-0 area as another way to reach destinations in area0 and thus include these costs into it's LSDB and SPF calcs. Compare an ABR including summary LSA information in it's routing table (what I've been asking about) and an ABR at the end if a VL. How is the routing information received at this ABR different? Consider two ABRs: area0ABR1area1ABR2area0 If the paritioning of area 0 gives ya the willies, assume they're connected together. It really doesn't matter. Consider ABR2. It will see type 1-5 LSAs from it's area 0. If ABR1 and ABR2 had a VL between them, ABR2 would pass all of these LSAs, intact, to ABR1 over the VL. ABR1 would be able to use area1 to send traffic to ABR2's area0. Assume there is no VL between ABR1 and ABR2. Instead, ABR1 learns about ABR2's area 0 via type 3-5 LSAs from ABR2. Well, type 3 LSAs are really the info found in type 1-2 LSAs but with just the RID information reflecting ABR2 instead of the originating router's RID. So, I (still) don't see an issue if the ABR behaved as described above. Thanks for the thoughts so far. Be interested in more feedback on the above analysis. Peter van Oene wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 21:56, p b wrote: > > Consider this a question around the theory behind why OSPF > > did things a certain way. Somewhere along the way, Moy > > et. al. decided that there was an issue with an ABR processing > > a summary LSA. Based on that, they decided to make a design > > decision in OSPF to not allow this behavior. > > Intra area routing uses a distance vector methodology. Such > mechanisms > are prone to couting to infinity issues stemming from > information > feedback. Having a strict hierarchy prevents this. > > > Apparently the restriction on ABR's processing of summary > > LSA information is being relaxed. This relaxation is > > described in the ID. You are right, the ID is slightly > > different than the context of my question. In the ID, the > > ABR is not connected to area 0, where's in my case, it is > > connected to area 0. But the concepts are similar-- there > > are times when an ABR should consider and use summary LSA > > information. > > The concepts are not that similar in my opinion. The non > backbone > connected ABR will not be capable of feeding back routing > information > into the backbone so long as regular ABRs ignore his > summaries. There > are valid designs that support this requirement. However, I do > not see > any valid reason to intentially fragment ones OSPF backbone. > > What problem does your topology solve? > > > I'm not sure I understand your comment about adjacencies. > > ABR_1 does receive the summary LSAs from ABR_2 and stores > > these routes from these summaries in its LSDB for area 1. > > So this isn't an adjcency issue. > > > > So, still looking for an answer to the question. Why is it > > that an ABR can not use the information it receives in > > a summary LSA as part of the route selection process? > > There must be a reason why the spec indicates this is not > > allowed, and thus I'm looking for this reason. > > Doing so would create the potential for routing loops, > particularly when > two ABRs sit within the same area. In equal cost situations, > there are > no additional bits to designated whether a summary has passed > through > the backbone or not (like the ISIS up/down bit for example). > The ID you > refer to introduces this type of functionality for the non > backbone > connected ABR. > > > Regarding the M$
Lab Configuration Samples [7:58179]
Hello! Does anybody know, where I can finde Lab configuration samples. I have: 3x Cisco 2501 2x Cisco 2502 3x Cisco 2503 1x Cisco 2504 3x Cisco 2514 1x Cisco 2523 3x Cisco 1605R 3x Cisco 1720 Thanks Mehrdad _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58179&t=58179 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spanning tree loop [7:58099]
Thanks for everyone the response. This scenario was seen in production network. Switch A is managed by us, Switch B is managed by client. We don't have visibility of switch B and the client has very little knownlodge of their own gears. Switch B is HP 2524, according to cdp discovery. Switch A is running ISL trunking connected with an external router. When I did "show cdp neig", i could see switch A list itself as its own neighbors on those two ports. Thus I guessed HP2524 must configured the same vlan for those two adjacent ports. Switch A spt would be PVST, switch B is MST. They should be able to communicate via access link, according to the theory, and that was what i saw. Saw messages like this: (fe0/7 is on vlan 7, fe0/8 is on vlan 8) %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/7 relearning 1087 addrs per min %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/7 relearning 1065 addrs per min %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/8 relearning 5 addrs per min %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/8 relearning 9 addrs per min Now from your lab result and what I saw, * if SW A and SW B are both running PVST, two switch won't communicate * if SW A and SW B are running different spanning tree types, two switches can communicate but the function of spanning tree doesn't work well. Paul > CL: where are you seeing a look? I have configured two switches based on > what I read below. sho spanning-tree gives me the following: > > InterfacePort ID DesignatedPort > ID > Name Prio.Nbr Cost Sts Cost Bridge ID > Prio.Nbr > - --- - - > --- > Fa0/1128.1 100 FWD 0 4097 0009.b775.d400 128.1 > Fa0/7128.7 100 FWD 0 4097 0009.b775.d400 128.7 > > meaning that port Fa0/22 and Fa0/24 are not recognizing vlan 1 at all. > > the switches both complain that there are vlan mismatches. > > 6d10h: %CDP-4-NATIVE_VLAN_MISMATCH: Native VLAN mismatch discovered on > FastEther > net0/46 (1), with Switch_24 FastEthernet0/22 (7). > 6d10h: %CDP-4-NATIVE_VLAN_MISMATCH: Native VLAN mismatch discovered on > FastEther > net0/48 (1), with Switch_24 FastEthernet0/24 (8). > 6d > > > >> >> |switch A | >> - >> |(vlan 7)| (vlan 8) >> || >> || >> |(vlan 1)|(vlan 1) >> --- >> | switch B | >> >>|| | >> vlan 1 hosts >> >> >>In short, switch A has two ports configured with vlan 7, vlan 8 >>respectively. Swtich B all ports are at default vlan 1. >>links between swA and swB are access mode. >> >>This scenario creates bridging loop. But just can't figure out why STP >>fails to stop loop. > > > CL: again, I am not seeing a loop. I am seeing a problem and no way to fix > it other than to correct the vlan mismatch. > > CL: you sure you don't have another trunk configured on another port? > > > > >>Thanks in advance. >> >>Paul Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58177&t=58099 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cisco simulation source code [7:58176]
hi please help me regarding simulation for voice over ip/fr/atm is there any way i can possibly simulate these do describe a project in my curriculum with out having cisco routers with me .. any source codes available anywhere .please help out thank you ver much... rs3123 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58176&t=58176 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIP MCast and Qos Exam......How tough?? [7:58161]
As tough as u can imagine. I hardly passed it though the passing grade wasn't that high. The problem with this exam is that none of the sources available makes u quite confident that u really understand all the topics - Specially the QoS part - I believe things would be much more different if you have the chance for lots of hands-on experience with it. It's kinda general as u said but passing the exam is one thing and really feel confident that u really know the stuff is another thing. Though passing score for MPLS was very high (867) but through the exam I felt MPLS was much easier than the Qos/MCAST one. Again maybe because I have the chance to really practice MPLS. All what I can say is that u need to study hard for this one and that QoS is one of the topics that really needs a book or two that are well written and covers it from top to bottom without assuming any previous knowledge about the topic before. HTH > >Hello, Has anyone taken the CCIP Mcast and Qos exam? Need to know how >tough it is going to be. Do they drill you in the intricacies of PIM-SM, >DM, Diffserv using DSCP, NBar etc. Now, I have been told my some that >since this exam is like 2 exams combined into one, the exam questions >are going to be more general and just need a real good overview of all >the Qos and MCast topics. Is this any true? Please advise.Thank >you.Sincerely, CN > > > >Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > > > misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58175&t=58161 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IGRP for 350-001 [7:58174]
could somebody confirm if IGRP is included for the latest CCIE Written (350-001) ? This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=58174&t=58174 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
