Re: why there is an ethernet frame size limitation

[Billy Monroe]

Actually 101 times.
""Brian Lodwick"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> 3) Why is the ATM frame size 53 bytes?
>
> I bet if we counted how many times this question was asked it would be
near
> 100.
>
> Well if telecom guys would've gotten their way and the size was set for
> telecom to prevent delay and jitter it would've been smaller than 32
bytes.
> What I have read is that it was a compromise between the data side (wanted
> atleast 128 bytes)and the telecom side (wanted less than 32 bytes or it
> would need echo suppressors) which I'm sure made everyone evenly upset.
>
> >>>Brian
>
> >From: "David L. Blair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "David L. Blair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: why there is an ethernet frame size limitation
> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:28:31 -0500
> >
> >I know the reason for two of three.
> >
> >1) Why is the Ethernet minimum frame size of 64 bytes?
> >
> >Ethernet timing is based upon "bit time"  the time a bit takes to travel
> >the
> >distance of an maximum Ethernet segment length 100m or 328 ft.   The
> >minimum
> >frame size 64 bytes equals 512 bits or 512 bit times to travel the wire.
> >This has to do with a host on one end of the wire listening to use the
wire
> >and another host on the opposite end transmitting.  Note: This does not
> >include the Preamble.
> >
> >2) Why is the Ethernet maximum frame size of 1518 bytes(not 1526)?
> >
> >I guess for a similar reason.  Remember most Ethernet implementations are
> >share media.  So everyone host is contending for access to the wire.
That
> >is why Ethernet is contention based and Token Ring & FDDI are
> >deterministic.
> >A packet to large would actually allow less hosts per segment to transmit
> >their data in a timely fashion.
> >
> >3) Why is the ATM frame size 53 bytes?
> >
> >I do know exactly why 53 bytes was picked.  I do know why a small frame
> >size
> >was picked.  A ATM packet has two parts: Address and Payload.  The
Address
> >is 5 bytes long and the Payload is 48 bytes longs.  ATM was designed as a
> >Multi-service access medium, i.e. to handle Data, Voice, and  Multimedia
> >content.  The "Holy Grail" of voice transmission is delay and jitter.
When
> >the Delay in voice transmission is more than 250ms, humans start talking
> >before the other person has finished.  Resulting in a garbled conversion.
> >It takes less time to fill small frames with data.  All the frames are
the
> >same size so the transmission time, for a given network, is constant.
> >QoS,
> >Quality of Service, features are implemented in ATM to guarantee delivery
> >of
> >time sensitive frames like voice.
> >
> >
> >I hoe this helps.  A good Ethernet book with some ATM and FDDI
information
> >is Switched, Fast, and Gigabit Ethernet ISBN: 1-57870-073-6
> >
> >-dlb
> >
> >
> >"azhar mumtaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > > Hello Guys:
> > > What i want to know is why there is a limit that ethernet frame size
> >cannot be
> > > less than 64 bytes and more than 1526 bytes. I know that this is how
> >ethernet
> > > should be understand but whats the logic behind it. Similarly why we
are
> > > limiting cell size of ATM to 53 bytes.
> > > Regards
> > > Azhar Soomro
> > >
> > > 
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Re: Last Nights DC Cisco Meeting

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?

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> Think Cisco will get upset if I forward this info on?
>
> To pass the CCIE lab exam you must know this:
>
> "configure terminal"
>
>
>
>
>
> "Christine Johnson, CCNP" wrote:
>
> > Last night I attended a meeting where one of the Cisco vice presidents
> > stated that Cisco is investing 50 million dollars in protecting the
Cisco
> > CCIE.  They are going after any person that has an NDA agreement and
posts
> > things considered a violation and publishes the information on a website
or
> > book.  They stated that they were going after a guy named Howard
Berkowitz
> > for having a website that has 168 violations. They are sending him a
letter
> > stating he is no longer certified by Cisco and suing him down to a
> > Volkwagen. Does anyone know what website he has?
> >
> > Christine Johnson, CCNP
> >
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Clarify the differences between Ethernet & IEEE 802.3

[Billy Monroe]

I see a description of the differences between them but I can't really
understand that in practical terms.
Is the IEEE 802.3 the CSMA/CD ?




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Re: Clarify the differences between Ethernet & IEEE 802.3

[Billy Monroe]

Thanks.
I mean, during encapsulation how IEEE 802.3 or Ethernet will be selected ?
"Who" decides that ?


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> They are different standards for ethernet.  They both use CSMA/CD.  802.3
> was defined by the IEEE and Ethernet was defined by Xerox I believe.
>
> The difference is in the packet format:
>
> Ethernet:
> Destination Address (6 octets) - Source Address (6) - Protocol (2) - Data
> (Variable) - FCS (4)
>
> 802.3
> Destination Address (6 octets) - Source Address (6) - Length (2) - Data
> (Variable) - FCS (4)
>
> A node can tell the difference between the two protocols because the
Length
> of a packet can never be more than 1518 bytes so if that value is more
than
> 1518 the node can tell that it is an Ethernet packet and that that
> particular spot is the protocol type field not the length.
>
> Given that 802.3 packets don't contain the protocol type field they cannot
> transport different network layer protocols without using additional
> information which is why 802.2 and SNAP was defined.  The 802.2 or SNAP
> fields occur at the beginning of the Data portion of the packet and are
> used to specify which protocol is sending the packet.
>
> Did that answer your question?
>
> At 09:43 AM 2/4/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >I see a description of the differences between them but I can't really
> >understand that in practical terms.
> >Is the IEEE 802.3 the CSMA/CD ?
> >
> >
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Re: something need to know about ccsi

[Billy Monroe]

What happens if I have a low score and I am interested in CCSI ?
Just retake the exams ?



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> CCSI (Cisco Certified Instructors) are held to a higher standard than
other
> test-takers.  CCSI candidates must pass the test with a slightly higher
> score than anyone else.  Had you answered "yes," you'd have had to jump a
> bit higher than everyone else to get over the bar.
>
> BJ
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: cslx
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 6:21 PM
> Subject: something need to know about ccsi
>
>
> When i was pursuing CCNP, it is needed to answer questions before every
> exam. one of these question is " Is this test for CCSI certification?"
> I had no idea what a ccsi is and had no interests in it, so my answere was
> "no", 4 times totally.
> later i knew what it is but i think my english speaking is so poor so that
> one would help me much.
> however I kind of think that might not be a bad idea to get one more
> certification. so I want to know more about ccsi.
> anyone can drop some advie about it?
>
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Routing Protocols Load balancing vs. other solutions

[Billy Monroe]

How effective is the load balance features of routing protocols (for
example, OSPF equal paths load balancing) when
compared to solutions such as F5 or Windows NT load balancing ?


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OSPF Load Balance/Metric

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

An interviewer asked me what happens if you have two paths to a Router, both
using OC-3, and routing protocols is OSPF.

I said that OSPF is a link state protocol and its metric is "Cost", which is
10^8/Bandwidth. Load balance is enabled by default on OSPF, so packets will
be load balanced "per destination" (it should be configured if 'per packet'
is required).

The guy then told me that I should take "Congestion" into consideration.

How can this be ? I know that EIGRP or IGRP may be configured to use Load as
a metric, thus congestion would be take into account. I couldn't find any
documentation showing that OSPF takes congestion as a metric.

Please let me know if I am wrong.

Thanks,

Billy Monroe
CCNA, Compaq ASE


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Site for VoIPOn-line training ?

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

Could you please post that web site that offers VoIP free on-line seminar
for Cisco partners ?

Thanks,

It is related to the link below, but I guess I need a specific link:

> http://www.vstream.com/login/CISCOCP/CISCOCP_login.vhtm?PREFS=CISCOCP
> 
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Re: Off Topic - Thoughts on the coming year

[Billy Monroe]

You are "the man", Chuck !
Happy 2001 !


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> This shouldn't be too long. No goal setting this year. No laying out of
> plans and schemes. Just a reflection on my own achievements, and what that
> might mean to you.
>
> I discovered Cisco certification 19 months ago, shortly after I lost my
job
> as technology manager at a small brokerage firm. (downsized by the new
> owners) At that time I thought that maybe it would take me five years to
get
> my CCIE. A year ago, when I laid out my plan for the year 2000, and posted
> it here, I saw that it might be possible to have at least passed the CCIE
> written by year end.
>
> Today, my CCIE lab is scheduled, and I believe I will have attained that
> goal by end of year 2001. This is amazing to me.
>
> So I just want to say, on this eve of the REAL new millenium, to all of
you
> on this list, to all of you single moms and high school kids and career
> changers and overweight middle aged guys, and non native English speakers,
> you CAN do it! It may be a journey of a thousand miles, but it can be
done,
> as the saying goes, one step at a time.
>
> To all of you whose names I have seen in my in-box these past months, my
> best wishes to you all. Wherever you are on the road - the shoreline,
Delhi,
> Katmandu, Base Camp, or nearly at Everest's summit - you CAN do it. I look
> forward to seeing you on the road, on the trail, on the climb, at the top.
>
> May you achieve those things which fulfill you in this coming new year!
>
> Chuck
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Re: Disappointed with ccnp!!

[Billy Monroe]

Agreed. Do not list the cert and list topics that you are more confident
with and that should be of benefit.


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> CCNP level candidates would be expected to perform to a certain level.
Your
> lack of experience combined with the CCNP is a red flag.  It is very
> unlikely you can perform to the level of most CCNP's.
>
> I recommend dropping the CCNP from your resume right now and aim at
landing
> an entry level network position anywhere you can to begin accumulating
> experience (the most important factor in IT).  Shortly after landing your
> position your could then announce your having reached CCNP.   This would
> benefit you in a few ways, first you will not be given tasks you cannot
> handle which will permit you to hold your job.  Secondly, a CCNA with no
> experience is not going to get much less salary than a CCNP without any
> experience.   Therefore, after you land your first job and announce your
> newly aquired CCNP, you will probably get yourself a decent raise which
> would probably put you at or above where you would have entered with CCNP.
> Plus you won't have to wait months to find a job.
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: park jeongwoo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:42 PM
> Subject: Disappointed with ccnp!!
>
>
> > Hi group members.
> > I need your help.
> > I am having a hard time on finding a job.
> > I recently got ccnp certification and looking for the
> > entry level of job for network engineer.
> > I am living in San Francisco, and graduated from
> > college less than a year ago.
> > I have less than a year of network experience that I
> > got from school computer lab.
> > I had a harder time finding a job before I became
> > ccnp. So I studied hard believing that  ccnp would get
> > me somewhere at least as a entry level network
> > engineer. Now I am kind of confused and disappointed
> > with the fact that I am still having a hard time
> > finding a job even with ccnp certification.
> > I feel like I need more cisco certifications such as
> > ccda, ccdp.
> > Would these certification ever help me find job?
> > It is really discouraging that cisco certification
> > doesn't help me much find a job at this point, because
> > I am also pursuing ccie too. I have to ask myself what
> > is the point of getting cisco certification.
> > Lots of CCNAs are having a job. Why not ccnp?
> >
> > Could somebody tell me why it goes like this, and what
> > I should do?
> > Am I looking for wrong job?
> >
> > I will appreiciate your input.
> >
> > jeongwoo
> >
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Re: switch flow control

[Billy Monroe]

As far as I know flow control is one of the functions of many data link
layer protocols, besides framing, error correction, sync and control.

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> There is one thing that confuses me about switches. If you have a switch
> with a 100Mb port and 10Mb port and the 100 starts sending data to the 10
> how does the sending station keep from overflowing the buffer on the
switch
> since there in now flow control at layer 2?
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Re: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster

[Billy Monroe]

I think most instructors don't have real world experience : )

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> There are many instructors with no real world experience.  Do what makes
you
> feel good, the rest will take care of itself.
>
> Mark Krysinski
> CTO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> jeongwoo park
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:56 PM
> To: Groupstudy
> Subject: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster
>
>
> Hi group members!!
> I am the original poster of this thread.
> First of all, I appreciate your encouragements,
> concerns and even criticizing point. I received more
> replies than I expected.
>
> There were some people who made a point on removing my
> ccnp cert from my resume.
> It was not only thoughtful suggestion, but also scary
> suggestion, because I felt that removing it from my
> resume was like 7 months of ccnp prep going down the
> drain all of a sudden.
> However, I made up my mind not remove it.
> My intension of listing ccnp on my resume was to show
> how much interest I have on networking. I believe that
> there is clear difference between ccna without
> experience and ccnp without experience. If I were
> employer, I would hire ccnp without experience because
> there is obviously difference between these two guys
> in terms of the amount of technical knowledge and
> potential performance that he or she might make.
> As some members mentioned, lots of people consider
> their careers from IT industry because of money. I
> agree with them not only I am partly one of them, but
> also money can be one of strong motivation in
> advancing their living condition. But money doesn't
> give me enough motivation as my interest in networking
> does. I didn't even consider CCNP. I was going to
> start to look for a job after I got MCSE and CCNA
> certifications.
> But I couldn't stop my interest in knowing more on
> network knowledge.
>
> There might be some people who would say, " none of
> these guys would be hired."
> Well, the biggest irony that I have is that who is
> going to start his or her career in IT industry if
> everyone is looking for only experienced engineer.
> That is why I am looking for entry level of job. I
> wouldn't be able to perform in the beginning as much
> as years of experienced CCNP would do. But I am sure
> that I could learn things faster than most of
> entry-level job applicants.
> If nobody offers me a job, I would go for CCIE without
> any corporation experience. I would buy network
> devices, and take ccie lab classes. I wonder if there
> is anyone who made ccie without any corporation
> experience. I wish there were. If not, I will be the
> first one who becomes ccie without experience. I am
> not talking about home-network or training school
> network experience. I am talking about the experience
> that can be obtained as a network engineer.
> I know it would be harder to become ccie without real
> world experience, but I believe that lots of members
> who showed their concern would be with me.
> When I become CCIE, I will put nothing but CCIE, and
> see if anyone gives me job offer.
> I wonder if people who emphasizes on only experience
> still wouldn't hire me.
>
> For the people who are already out there and working
> for company without any certification, I respect them
> because they might have had harder time on getting a
> job than I do.
>
> Since I posted my message, I had some job interviews.
> Well, I will see how it will go.
> Once again, Thanks you for encouragement and advices.
> I will definitely let you know if I got hired.
>
>
> jeongwoo
>
>
>
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Re: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster - Should be our poster child

[Billy Monroe]

I agree, and according to the Cisco Web site:
experience=training=self-study= 33%
certification = (experience + training + self-study).
if experience = 0

certification = training + self-study


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> Jeongwoo, All of the tea in China won't help someone who is only paper
> certified.  I feel that you should do what all people must do at times
when
> an intense decision looms on the horizon; re-evaluate your situation.
> Here's where I am going with that:  Ok, fine you have your CCNP, how much
> experience do you have?  Before you make the mistake of over marketing
> yourself, I would encourage you to evaluate yourself honestly and perhaps
> you could get Chuck, Howard or Priscilla to act as sounding boards to you.
> You're in a difficult position because of the time and effort that you
> invested in studying for your exams, and I think we all appreciate that.
> However, you will be doing yourself a sincere disservice if simply ignore
> the good counsel that you are privvy to (as are all of us), based off of
our
> memberships and contributions to this list.  Lets add further
complications
> to the mix.  Let's say you go and pass the written and lab and your
> experience is confined solely to sterile lab environments, how well do you
> believe you will be recepted by employers?  I would imagine that
regardless
> of the fact that you had a number (hypothetically), you might encounter
> similar disappointment in that most employers value
> experience+certification.  Its a simple equation:
> experience+certification=success.  If anyone sincerely disagrees with me
on
> this one, then I welcome the flames...bring'em on, however I maintain that
> the marriage of certification+experience is what secures success and that
> when people get paper crazy it only serves to degrade the value of the
> certification.  My 2cents, you may begin your flamesin
> five,four,three,two,one...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Donald B Johnson Jr
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:28 PM
> To: jeongwoo park; Groupstudy
> Subject: Re: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster - Should be our
> poster child
>
>
> I started in this industry in 95 after a career change, I was a Chef for
12
> years, and taught music for two years before that. Third career working
with
> computers. I want to be a lawyer next, fourth career. Whatever!! A friend
of
> mine had a family member who had a small consulting business, and I
started
> working with them when they needed a grunt. It was during the Win95 buzz
> when people would pay for you to upgrade their OS. They used to get 179$
to
> upgrade a computer with a licensed copy of Win95. Unbelievable!!! The
> consultant company also did a lot of rewiring too, used to be a lot of
Cat3
> in those walls. So we would install Cat5. I swallowed a lot of dust
bunnies
> in the day. Got paid 7$ an hour but it was a start, and I would do it all
> again because like you, I (and many here) love it. Now I have a great
> position and great pay, the best part is, it's like I don't have a job,
but
> am getting paid for my hobby. So good luck Jeongwoo you will find
something,
> I know how you feel I was there. With the attitude you expressed in your
> last post, you should be the poster child for all that is good about this
> group, and certification, and this profession.
> Duck
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: jeongwoo park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:55 PM
> Subject: Disappointed with CCNP --Original poster
>
>
> > Hi group members!!
> > I am the original poster of this thread.
> > First of all, I appreciate your encouragements,
> > concerns and even criticizing point. I received more
> > replies than I expected.
> >
> > There were some people who made a point on removing my
> > ccnp cert from my resume.
> > It was not only thoughtful suggestion, but also scary
> > suggestion, because I felt that removing it from my
> > resume was like 7 months of ccnp prep going down the
> > drain all of a sudden.
> > However, I made up my mind not remove it.
> > My intension of listing ccnp on my resume was to show
> > how much interest I have on networking. I believe that
> > there is clear difference between ccna without
> > experience and ccnp without experience. If I were
> > employer, I would hire ccnp without experience because
> > there is obviously difference between these two guys
> > in terms of the amount of technical knowledge and
> > potential performance that he or she might make.
> > As some members mentioned, lots of people consider
> > their careers from IT industry because of money. I
> > agree with them not only I am partly one of them, but
> > also money can be one of strong motivation in
> > advancing their living condition. But 

Off topic: NOC day-to-day responsibilities

[Billy Monroe]

What technologies do you typically deal with when working for NOCs at big
telcos (entry-level) ?

Do you see any switching ?


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I need a Cat 5000 - virtual lab

[Billy Monroe]

Anyone has a Cat 5000 where I could connect to via Telnet ?
I was using Simrouter but they don't have switches at this point.

Thanks,

Billy
CCNA, MCSE, Compaq ASE



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Re: the different bettween ACRC and routing 2.0 of CCNP

[Billy Monroe]

Basically BSCN no longer has topics such as bridging configuration, traffic
prioritization and ISDN.

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>  who can tell me the different bettween ACRC and routing 2.0 of CCNP?
> what is the context of the routing 2.0 ?(because I have only the book of
ACRC not the routing 2.0 )
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Which virtual lab for BCMSN ?

[Billy Monroe]

Please tell me if routersim or CIM are good choices.
It seems CIM is very nice but the problem is that it is not updated to the
BCMSN - it seems more like the old switching course ?




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Re: Interesting site with lots of links.

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Definitely interesting !

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Re: Bye

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 Genius ! 
 

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  Well the past couple weeks have been fun but 
  reading through over 100 emails a day is too much.  I thought this list 
  might have helped me along but mostly it just wasted valuable time.  
  There is never a shortage of stupid questions and people that don't know how 
  to read the archives to get 80% of the questions answered.  If I have to 
  read one more question asking what book to read for the CCNA or some other 
  test I'm gonna be sick.  
   
  In the span of 6 days I read all the books and 
  passed the pathetic CCNP.  What a joke that test was.  For those of 
  you that asked me about the Foundation test it was terribly easy.  
  Anyone that even reads the material and half understands it will pass.  
  
   
  As far as the whiners, snitches, and morons you 
  know what I think of you.  People like you allow me to command a 
  higher and higher rate every few months cause no one wants to work with 
  someone like that.  Keep it up.  I even had one crybaby by the name 
  of Louie Belt tell me he was going to have me removed from this list and have 
  my hotmail account terminated.  LOL.  Apparently he thought he was 
  so influential that he had the power to terminate my accounts just cause I 
  called him a name.  :)  Nice try.  
   
  For those that I've had positive interaction with 
  feel free to email me if you have questions or want to chat.  
  
   
  See ya.
   
  John

Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz: US DOD. How do they do it?

[Billy Monroe]

Thanks for the translation !

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> For those of you who are Curious, This chap says He'll be out of the
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> until 10-2-200, and you can talk to his associates instead.  The e-mail
was
> not forwarded.
>
>
> Original Message Follows
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Abwesenheitsnotiz: US DOD. How do they do it?
> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:29:15 +0200
>
> Ab dem 02.10.2000 stehe ich wieder zur Verfügung.
> Mein Kollegen Herr Brückmann, Armin (VPN/IP) und Herr Feige, Lothar (TDN)
> übernehmen bis dahin meine Vertretung.
> In dringenden Fällen setzen Sie sich bitte mit diesen in Verbindung.
> BITTE BEACHTEN: Ihre mail wurde NICHT weitergeleitet!!!
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
>
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Re: ISDN - I can't ping bri0

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The aditional 'octet' is a typo. The addresses are 196.1.1.1 and 196.1.1.2,
of course.

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>
> Interesting IP addresses you have on the BRI ports.  I assume you have
fudged
> them for security and mis-typed, because I'd be surprised if any router
would
> accept them.  You might want to check that your real addresses are OK.
> Having said that, I doubt it's the cause of the problem - the output of
the
> debugs mentioned by 'clue' could be useful though.
>
> JMcL
> -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 28/09/2000
09:28 am
> ---
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clue Less) on 27/09/2000 10:51:04 pm
>
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clue Less)
>
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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject:  Re: ISDN - I can't ping bri0
>
>
>
> Not sure, could you do a 'debug isdn q931' and 'debug ppp neg' to find
> out how far it gets?
>
> Clue.
>
> On 26 Sep 2000 21:58:41 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Ron S") wrote:
>
> >Can you please help here ?
> >From routerA I try to ping RouterB and ping is unsuccessfull ?
> >
> >#show dialer displays "Last status:Fail", Last called: 00:00:16
> >
> >#show isdn status seems OK on both routers;
> >State=MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED
> >spid1 sent, spid1 valid...
> >
> >#show int bri0
> >bri0 is up, line protocol is up (spoofing)...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >ROUTERA
> >hostname RouterA
> >!
> >enable password cisco
> >username RouterB password 7 03075
> >isdn switch-type basic-ni1
> >!
> >int s0
> >no ip add
> >!
> >int bri0
> >ip add 196.1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
> >encap ppp
> >isdn spid1 5101 8995101
> >isdn spid2 5102 8995102
> >dialer idle-timeout 90
> >dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name RouterB broadcast 8995201
> >
> >dialer load-threshold 1
> >dialer-group 1
> >no fair-queue
> >ppp auth chap
> >ppp multilink
> >!
> >no ip classless
> >dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> >!
> >line con 0
> >password cisco
> >login
> >line aux 0
> >line vty 0 4
> >login
> >!
> >end
> >
> >
> >ROUTERB
> >
> >hostname RouterB
> >!
> >enable password cisco
> >username RouterA password 7 03075
> >isdn switch-type basic-ni1
> >!
> >int s0
> >no ip add
> >!
> >int bri0
> >ip add 196.1.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
> >encap ppp
> >isdn spid1 5101 8995201
> >isdn spid2 5102 8995202
> >dialer idle-timeout 90
> >dialer map ip 196.1.1.1 name RouterA
> >
> >dialer-group 1
> >no fair-queue
> >ppp auth chap
> >ppp multilink
> >!
> >no ip classless
> >dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> >!
> >line con 0
> >password cisco
> >login
> >line aux 0
> >line vty 0 4
> >login
> >!
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Re: BCRAN passed!!

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Can you please tell me which hands-on/exercises book you used ?

Thanks,


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> Congratulations!  How much hands on did you have?  Keep the pace.
> avran
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> >
> > I want to share this joy with the rest of the guys in the group that I
> have
> > successfully passed the BCRAN exam . Although the marks are not high but
a
> > pass is a pass. Next to go is Support 2.0 before I can get my CCNP .
> Anyone
> > got any pointers or tips for this exam?
> >
> > thanks for all your help and support for BCRAN
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Re: BCRAN

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Did you see any Remote Access and VPN question on the exam ?


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> I would study most topics relating to remote access networks!!
>
> Just kidding!  I read the Cisco press book (Building Cisco remote access
> networks) and purchased a Boson exam and then cruised this exam.  Most
> people (including myself) tend to find this is the easiest exam of the 4.
> But that's not to say that study will be required to pass it.
>
> know frame, isdn and NAT.
>
> cheers
> -Original Message-
> From: SH Wesson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 October 2000 14:01
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BCRAN
>
>
> Can anyone give me some tips as to how to study for the BCRAN (640-505
exam)
>
> exam.  I'm studying for it and am schedule for another week or so to take
> the exam.  Tips on what topics to study and what may be on the exam would
be
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Multicast and BCSMN

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Hello:

How deep do you see Multicast in BCSMN classes ?
Does BCSMN study provide strong enough knowledge in Multicast ?

Thanks,

Billy


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"Window" field - TCP packet

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Hello:

Is there any way to see the size of the (sliding) window when transmiting a
TCP packet ?

I saw a "Window" field using a sniffer and the number was big 28765...
Please correct me if I am wrong: I believe that is the buffer of the
receiving station.

Thanks,

Ronaldo



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Data Link / Windowing

[Billy Monroe]

Regarding the windowing mechanism, a Data Link layer feature:

Three types of retransmissions may occur to correct sequence errors:

Go Back to N, Selective Repeat and Stop and Wait.

Do you know in which circumstances the method above will be applied ?


Thanks,

Billy


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Re: Inverse Mask

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Do you know any shortcut to solve this kind of problem:

Implement an access list to block the odd numbers of  255.248.0.0


Thanks,

Billy
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> never thought of it that way
> used to do it the long way
> Duck
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Inverse Mask
>
>
> >
> > It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest way
> > to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:
> >
> > 255.255.255.255  fill 'er up
> >   - 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
> > ---
> > 255.248.000.000  real netmask
> >
> > So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to 255.248.0.0.
> > Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.
> >
> > You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing the
> > opposite.
> >
> > 255.255.255.255
> >   - 255.248.000.000
> > ---
> > 000.007.255.255
> >
> >   -j
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:
> >
> > > I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network &
> access
> > > list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused when
> there
> > > is any number other than these two.  For example...
> > >
> > > network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
> > >
> > > what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
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Re: Inverse Mask

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Sorry. Let me correct this:

Implement an access-list to block only the odd numbers (4th octet) of
123.12.10.x

Thanks,

Billy



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> Do you know any shortcut to solve this kind of problem:
>
> Implement an access list to block the odd numbers of  255.248.0.0
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Billy
> ""Donald B Johnson Jr"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > thanks j
> > never thought of it that way
> > used to do it the long way
> > Duck
> > - Original Message -
> > From: J Rowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Keith Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 10:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: Inverse Mask
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It represents the netmask (255.248.0.0) for the network. The easiest
way
> > > to get from an inverse mask to a regular netmask is like this:
> > >
> > > 255.255.255.255  fill 'er up
> > >   - 000.007.255.255  subtract the inverse mask
> > > ---
> > > 255.248.000.000  real netmask
> > >
> > > So, if you have a 0.7.255.255 inverse mask, it equates to 255.248.0.0.
> > > Likewise, if you had 0.0.15.255, the mask would be 255.255.240.0.
> > >
> > > You can also take the normal mask and get the inverse mask by doing
the
> > > opposite.
> > >
> > > 255.255.255.255
> > >   - 255.248.000.000
> > > ---
> > > 000.007.255.255
> > >
> > >   -j
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Keith Townsend wrote:
> > >
> > > > I need help in understanding inverse masks that are used in network
&
> > access
> > > > list commands.  I understabd what 0 and 255 do but I get confused
when
> > there
> > > > is any number other than these two.  For example...
> > > >
> > > > network 10.0.0.0 0.7.255.255 area 0
> > > >
> > > > what does the 7 represent or specifiy for the mask.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Getting into Cisco

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Good luck and let us know how you do.
Hopefully you know everything you have listed on your resume.

Regards,

Billy

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be
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CCNP at Cisco Networking Academies ?

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I am curious to see the length to CCNP program at Cisco Networking
Academies.
I would like to know if anybody here have heard about CCNP offered in 4
QUARTERS.
I thought Cisco allowed only CCNP offered in a total of 4 semesters...


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Re: [CCNP at Cisco Networking Academies ?]

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No, initially CCNP program will not be offered for high schools.

Billy
BSEE. CCNA, MCP, Compaq ASE


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> OK  Here's the deal as far as I know.  If you are on a block schedule
(with
> longer classes) you can fit it into one year.  I did the CCNA Academy in a
> year at my high school and passed the test.  I'm not sure how the CCNP
thing
> is going to work, but it will be similar.
>
> Liz Bander.
>
> "Billy Monroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am curious to see the length to CCNP program at Cisco Networking
> > Academies.
> > I would like to know if anybody here have heard about CCNP offered in 4
> > QUARTERS.
> > I thought Cisco allowed only CCNP offered in a total of 4 semesters...
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Re: www.ccprep.com FastTracks??

[Billy Monroe]

I bought CCNA fastrack and ACRC. They were very heplful. What I liked was
the technical support provided by ccprep guys.

I am not sure if I will buy more though - it seems Boson tests are also good
and much cheaper than ccprep.

Hope that helps.

Billy
CCNA, Compaq ASE, MCP


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> Has anyone tried any of the FastTrack supscriptions at www.ccprep.com?  If
> so, was it usefull for you?  I'm thinking of purchasing a few at one time,
> but would like some feedback.
>
> TIA,
> Dave
>
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Re: where do live

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How about Seattle WA ?

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> Hello,
>
> I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
> tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
> sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
> highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
> moving out of silicon valley bay area.
>
> Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
> winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
> much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
> difficult to find such a place, but close?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
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Re: Back-to-Back ISDN

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No. You also need an ISDN simulator.


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> Hi there,
>
> I'm about to buy 2 cisco routers: a 766 and a 802. Trying to set up a home
> lab. Is it possible to connect these 2 routers via a back-to-back ISDN
> cable?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Flavio
>
>
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DataComm Extension vs. CVOICE

[Billy Monroe]

I have an oppoturnity to attend a DataComm extension course. It is a 9 month
certification program, 3 hours a week. I believe this course will present
data and voice technologies and also ATM, FDDI, Frame-Relay.

My concern is that the course is only 3 hours a week. Do you think it is
more effective if I use the money to pay CVOICE course instead ?

Thanks,

Billy
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Re: where do live

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Just few more words on this:
Yes, I have been living in Seattle area for one year. For me the rain is not
problem, the traffic is not problem because I live three blocks from my job
(Housing is STILL more affordable than Bay area)... Cisco related jobs are
just increasing...

The major problem for me here is social life. To make a long story
shorter... I haven't had too much fun here.

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> Were those local Seattle guys or they just wanted to
> find a nice and rainy place to die?
> That is a question.
>
> Kent
> --- William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Highest documented rate of suicide in Seattle.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Jean Stockton
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:57 PM
> > > To: Billy Monroe; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: where do live
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been told that Seattle, WA is very
> > beautiful, but it rains all the
> > > time.  A friend of mine said Seattle can be
> > depressing - even though it is
> > > beautiful - because it rains so much.  Seattle
> > folks, is this true?
> > >
> > > mjs
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > Billy Monroe
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 6:45 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: where do live
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How about Seattle WA ?
> > > >
> > > > "Jim Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >
> >
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> > > > >
> > > > > I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week;
> > I'm so
> > > > > tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for
> > a 1,300
> > > > > sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that
> > crowed
> > > > > highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm
> > thinking
> > > > > moving out of silicon valley bay area.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where, in US, can I find a place that is not
> > cold in
> > > > > winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow,
> > no too
> > > > > much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know
> > it's
> > > > > difficult to find such a place, but close?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: sniffer training where?

[Billy Monroe]

Does the CIT course provide a good hands on and background in network
analysis tools ?


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> I would like to some packet level network analysis training. does anyone
> know where this is available can can point me in the right direction?
> thanks,
> JD
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Re: CBT Training Options (CCNP)

[Billy Monroe]

I have had the same problem with this lack of evening classes.
How about video tapes ? I have seen one available for BCRAN at this point.


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> I've been battling it out with a local company here in San Diego to begin
> night classes geared towards CCNP.  But thus far they're sticking to their
> day only schedule.  They've instituted that e-learning program but still,
if
> you can't get the time off to go to their site, you also can't get the
time
> to sit at work and do it.
>
> This leads me to ask if anyone knows about good CBT training that covers
the
> tests for CCNP?
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May I use your on-line routers...?

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I need to practice urgently BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, etc. using Hutnik's... until I
have enough money to buy my own gear.

Please let me know who are the nice people who I was told that allow folks
in this list to telnet and play with their routers.

Thanks a lot

Billy
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Re: May I use your on-line routers...?

[Billy Monroe]

Thanks Natasha, I have been using r1r2 but I think I would need (3) routers
or more to practice Frame-Relay, some OSPF labs and BGP.


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Subject: Re: May I use your on-line routers...?


> Here is the site and it's still free
> http://www.r1r2.com/
> Now what you need to do before telneting on is go to the site and get
> the instructions.
>
> Billy Monroe wrote:
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I need to practice urgently BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, etc. using Hutnik's...
until I
> > have enough money to buy my own gear.
> >
> > Please let me know who are the nice people who I was told that allow
folks
> > in this list to telnet and play with their routers.
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > Billy
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BCRAN Video

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

Anyone here has evaluted "Cisco CCNP CMTD/BCRAN Video Training Series". It
listed at Amazon.com for $140.00. Please let me know if it is good.

Thanks,

Billy


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Aironet vs. VPN

[Billy Monroe]

Anyone could tell me in which occasion I could deploy VPNs (to provide
connectivity to roaming users) instead Cisco Aironet ?

Thanks a lot,

Billy
CCNA, Compaq ASE



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Re: Aironet vs. VPN

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A potential employer (an ISP)  told me that they need to deploy a project to
enable network access to remote users. He mentioned they are considering
Aironet. Probably the distance is the key factor: if you are in a building
Aironet will provide wireless connectivity.

I mentioned VPNs because I thought VPNs could also be a solution to provide
connections between mobile or remote users with their corporate networks via
a third-party network such as a service provider ... (and please correct me
if I am wrong)



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To: "Billy Monroe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Aironet vs. VPN


> How far are they roaming? Aironet is a LAN solution. You can only go
> approximately 150 feet, depending on obstacles.
>
> I might be missing something, but VPNs and Aironet don't even seem to
> belong in the same category. Maybe if you tell us more about your
> application, we can provide more info.
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 12:51 PM 8/19/00, Billy Monroe wrote:
> >Anyone could tell me in which occasion I could deploy VPNs (to provide
> >connectivity to roaming users) instead Cisco Aironet ?
> >
> >Thanks a lot,
> >
> >Billy
> >CCNA, Compaq ASE
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Re: Aironet vs. VPN

[Billy Monroe]

Never mind. 
I see now that they are totally different solutions... sorry.


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Subject: Re: Aironet vs. VPN


> How far are they roaming? Aironet is a LAN solution. You can only go
> approximately 150 feet, depending on obstacles.
> 
> I might be missing something, but VPNs and Aironet don't even seem to
> belong in the same category. Maybe if you tell us more about your
> application, we can provide more info.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> At 12:51 PM 8/19/00, Billy Monroe wrote:
> >Anyone could tell me in which occasion I could deploy VPNs (to provide
> >connectivity to roaming users) instead Cisco Aironet ?
> >
> >Thanks a lot,
> >
> >Billy
> >CCNA, Compaq ASE
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fatkid.com - where are you ?

[Billy Monroe]

I requested 5 hour lab on fakid.com but nobody answer or confirmed my
request...
I tried to call them 5 times but it seems the phone is busy.

Have your ever had such problem before ?

Thanks,

Billy



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Re: ATM Dead?

[Billy Monroe]

My friend is taking a 3 year Master program in ATM.
Do you think that is worthwhile ?




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> ATM is hardly a dead technology at this stage in the game.  Though we're
> not really seeing it to the desktop and LANE implementations aren't the
> hottest thing, it's an incredible technology in the backbone.  Providers
> love it because it allows us to run anything and everything over it (from
> voice to IP, and everything in between) and maintain quality of
> service.  One backbone carrying everything.  So ignore ATM at your own
> risk, because it's going to be with us for quite some time.
>
> Kris,
>
>
> From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: ATM Dead?  Was: 350-001 examin very tough
>
> But is ATM really dead?  Sure, not too many people will be introducing new
> implementations of LANE, but it seems to me that ATM over the WAN is still
> fairly common.  We will be using some ATM in the near future, as a matter
> of
> fact.  We are implementing alternate backup routes to all of our main
> branches using DSL.  Our provider is muxing all DSL lines to an ATM
> connection back to our HQ.  Pretty cool, actually.
>
> John
>
> >  Chuck,
> >
> >  I think I'll be joining you about the same time
> >  (350-001) . But boy do I hate ATM & Token Ring. So
> >  boring learning this stuff, when in the back of my
> >  mind I consider it dead technology.
> >  The only way I can keep my sanity is by planning to
> >  rip as much of this crap out as I can and replace it
> >  with Giga technology etc before I escape to do
> >  something more interesting.
> >
> >  Regards, and good luck for the written.
> >
> >  Keep watching the skies ..
> >
> >
> >  Phil.
>
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VoIP on C2600 - Home Lab

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

Does anyone know if it is possible to setup a VoIP lab using two C2600 (and
phones) ?


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Re: OT-Survey of age certs and experience

[Billy Monroe]

Title: OT-Survey of age certs and experience



Hello:
 
By the way, how are you preparing yourself to 
CVOICE ? What kind of hands-on/lab would you suggest ?
 
Thanks, 
 
Billy

  ""Prather, Aaron"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
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  Ive been reading this list for about a year now, and this is 
  my second or third post (I plan to post more now though) I wanted to get a 
  quick survey of who everyone is, age, certs, and experience - if you dont 
  mind. :)  Ill start off:
  Age:  22 Certs:  MCSE, 
  MCP+I, Network+, MCNE5&4.11, CCNP, CCDP, CCIE cand. Exp.:  2 1/2 years of experience in the networking industry, 
  started off working with hardware, then worked my way up the 
ladder.
  Future Certs:  Right now im working on CVOICE, next will 
  be CATM, and then CCIE lab (one day) ;-) after that I am going to look into 
  Solaris Admin
  Location:  Louisiana 
  I threw in a couple of extra things, but I know people here 
  are busy, so anything you could contribute would be nice. 
  Thanks everyone in advance for satisfying my curiosity, 
  
  Aaron 

Re: VoIP on C2600 - Home Lab

[Billy Monroe]

Hi Brad,

I know about the two FX-S modules, but could you explain what is the NM-1V
module ?

Thanks,

Billy

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> Joe is on the money.  I have (2) FX-S modules, and (2) NM-1V modules.
They
> are what I used to practice voice for the CCIE lab certification.  I sold
> the routers they were in, so if anyone wants the voice gear, let me
> know...$2800 and they're yours.
>
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> "Joe Pinkus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Billy,
> >
> > To setup up the basics all you need is an fxs port on both routers,
> connect the
> > routers back to back with serial, then you can create voice pots and
voice
> voip
> > dial-peers and have at it.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Billy Monroe wrote:
> >
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if it is possible to setup a VoIP lab using two C2600
> (and
> > > phones) ?
> > >
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Real Labs or Virtual Labs

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I want to practice CCNP labs and I would like to know if virtual labs and
simulators (for example mentorlabs or others) would be able to provide the
ability comparable to a real hands-on lab.

Thanks,

Billy


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Re: CCNA worthless?

[Billy Monroe]

I agree. In the beginning I thought MCSE was related to internetworking, but
now
I see that MCSE is regarding Windows operating systems. Typically MCSE
knowledge in networking is
superficial compared to Cisco subjects. Of course MCSE has its value.



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> Now I want to say that it is not my intent to start a flame war on this
> group, or to belittle anyone.  I am just stating my opinion and would not
> mind some alternate opinions.
>
> I can understand how having an MCSE or Cisco certification can be helpful
in
> landing you a job, but I dont see how the two exactly mesh together.  In
any
> company of significant size you will be dealing NT servers OR Cisco
routers.
> The primary responsibilities of an MCSE and CCNP/DP/IE vary by quite a
large
> margin.  So if you just want to have basic understanding at the CCNA
level,
> then I could see how it would be good to get both.  However, If you are
more
> interested in persuing a career in network engineering then focus on
network
> and telco experience over server experience.  While I do think it it best
to
> diversify and not overspecialize, I think it is important to determine in
> what field you wish to work.  I know this may sound kind of idealistic,
but
> the last thing I look for in a career decision is salary.  I would rather
be
> happy and making less money, than having to deal with a work environment
> that was not friendly and cooperative.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> -- Kevin
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > JohnMail
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 10:34 AM
> > To: Brian Lodwick; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCNA worthless?
> >
> >
> > Brian:
> >
> > I still think that you should stay with NT/2000.  Its installation base
is
> > far too large to ignore.  CISCO is cool as we all know, but Cisco & MCSE

> > will give you much more competitive advantage in the world of work.
Both
> > certs over either one!  Also do not forget that Microsoft and CISCO have
> > already signed a major collaberation deal.  The people who can integrate
> > systems or run interoperable networks are those with skills in both
CISCO
> > and MCSE spheres.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brian Lodwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: CCNA worthless?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I keep telling myself that knowledge and experience will get me
> > the job I
> > > want as I work here and troubleshoot problems everyday for everyone. I
> > want
> > > to be configuring routers making crazy cool batch config files,
> > analyzing
> > > traffic patterns, applying queueing, all the stuff I'm learning in the
> > > books. I decided to drop the NT admin idea about a year after
> > getting MCSE
> > > get into this routing switching world. I feel like I would've
> > been working
> > a
> > > much better job by now in NT administration and making more money, but
I
> > > really want to do all this crazy Cisco stuff. I hope it pans out in
the
> > long
> > > run.
> > > >>>Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "paul doyl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: RE: CCNA worthless?
> > > >Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:07:04 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I would have to say it depends on the person.  If you want nothing
more
> > > >than
> > > >a piece of paper certification out of training then thats all you
will
> > get.
> > > >The cert may get you the interview, your knowledge and exerpience
will
> > get
> > > >you the job and pay you want.
> > > >
> > > >-- Kevin
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > > > paul doyl
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 8:31 AM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: CCNA worthless?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello people
> > > > > Yesterday a we interveiwed a guy for a job for general network
> > hardware
> > > > > support. He had a CCNA gained from CCNA boot camp (4 days).
> > The thing
> > is
> > > > > (from what I hear) he had very little idea and couldn't answer
> > > > > the simplest
> > > > > questions, long blank pause after being asked what a subnet was
> > > > > or explain
> > > > > what a subnet mask was. Now I'm concerned as I actually had to
> > > > > study quite
> > > > > hard to get my CCNA. Does anyone have similar tales or stories to
> > > > > tell about
> > > > > what goes on at these 'boot camps'?
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > Bodey
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > 
> > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at
> > http://www.hotmail.com
> > 

ISDN in two 2514

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I would like to setup ISDN home lab using two 2514.
One router has a BRI interface. I have no ISDN switch.

Does anybody know if and how I can do it ?


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Re: Frame relay back to back

[Billy Monroe]

I am also trying to setup using 3 routers (1 router configured as switch).

I am following the Hutnik's book. They recommend a configuration on
"serial0/0"... anybody could tell me what is serial0/0 ?
I can configure int s0, but not serial0/0.

Thanks,

Billy


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> In order to do frame-relay with a back-to-back cable, one router must be
> configured as a switch - frame-relay switching (global-config) and the
> interface on the switch must be configured as a logical dce - frame-relay
> interf-type dce (int-config).  When I have done it, i also had to map to
my
> local interface with frame-relay map in order to ping the local interface.
>
>
>
> "Vic Feferberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > I would like to setup frame relay back to back, but when I do what
> happens
> > is that the line protocol comes up and shortly after comes down again.
> >
> > Is it possible to set this up in a lab situation without a telco
> connection?
> >
> > TIA
> >
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Re: ISDN in two 2514

[Billy Monroe]

Great Brad !
I was using four different models yesterday 2501, 2503, 2509 and 2514.
Actually I think the router with the BRI interface was a 2503...?  I am not
sure.
Thanks.



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> That's a neat trick billy!  Ive never heard of a 2514 with an ISDN
> interface...
>
> You probably want (2) ISDN routers and an ISDN switch...
>
> -Brad
> ""Billy Monroe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hello:
> >
> > I would like to setup ISDN home lab using two 2514.
> > One router has a BRI interface. I have no ISDN switch.
> >
> > Does anybody know if and how I can do it ?
> >
> >
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Re: Help with Frame Relay over DTE/DCE cable

[Billy Monroe]

I have done the configuration below. I can't ping my own S0 interface on R1.


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> Well Bob, are you trying to build this with only 2 routers? I am not sure
> you can do that... Typically it looks like this:
>
>
> R1---Frame Switch (R2)---R3
>
> R2 (the frame switch) provides DCE to both R1 and R3. Set the clockrate on
> one of the switch interfaces. R2 needs the following:
>
> Frame Relay Switching enabled (frame-relay switching)
> DCE set on each interface (frame-relay intf-type dce)
> Clockrate configured (clockrate 56000)
> Frame Relay Route statements to announce DLCI's to each side and connect
the
> R1 and R3 into a PVC. (frame-relay route 102 s0 201)
>
> R1 and R3 need:
>
> Frame Relay encapsulation on the serial interface that is connected to the
> switch. (encapsulation frame-relay)
>
> Optional:
>
> You may want to configure frame-relay map statments on R1 and R3 to turn
off
> Inverse-Arp. This step is optional.
>
> You may also wish to configure the Frame Relay LMI type...
>
> If you are trying to configure only half of the connection, ie one router
as
> DTE and one router as the switch, I don't think that this will work. You
may
> see LMI going back and forth (debug frame lmi), but I don't think so. You
> certianly will not see the interface stay up because the PVC is not
> complete.
>
> I have not tried to configure the switch to route right back out the same
> interface (frame-relay route 102 s0 102) to see if it will receive frames
on
> s0 and send them out on s0 too, but I don't think it is legal to do
this...
>
> You may need to get a 3rd router to make this work (if you do not alreay
> have one.)
>
> I hope this helps...
>
> Dale
> [=`)
>
>
>
> >From: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Help with Frame Relay over  DTE/DCE cable
> >Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:57:18 -0400
> >
> >I am trying to configure Frame Relay over a DTE/DCE cable, but even with
a
> >clock rate set on the DCE side, and frame relay switching configured on
one
> >of the routers, and the int on the switch configured as a interf-type
DCE,
> >I
> >am still always getting it to go up for a second on reload, but then it
> >drops again right away, and the line protocol goes down. can someone
please
> >help me with this?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: "IP routing not enabled"

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I would like to start a configuration file from scratch in a C2503 so I did:
#erase startup
#reload

The setup dialog appeared. I just entered the default configuration.

I attempted to configure interface s0 and used RIP. But when I entered
"router RIP" the IOS returned "IP routing not enabled".
What's the command to enable IP routing ?

Thanks,

Billy


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OSPF & RIP

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

An interviewer asked if I could enable RIP and OSPF on the same network.
I answered that it is possible to overlap protocols, but it is not
recommended. I said that OSPF has an Administrative Distance lower than RIP,
so OSPF will be the procotol in use.

Is that a complete/correct answer ?

Billy
CCNA


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Re: OSPF & RIP

[Billy Monroe]

Hey Joe, can you tell more about the "Diameter of the network" when using
RIP/OSPF ?


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> Perfect with minor issues.  RIP V1 only supports FLSM and OSPF supports
> VLSM.  So it depends on the IP addressing.  Diameter of the network.  RIP
> support 16 hops and OSPF is unlimited.
>
> That answer should have been good enough for most people though.  Good
luck,
>
> JOE
> CCNP, CCDP, and a few other things...
> CCIE Lab - May 27/28
>
>
> ""Billy Monroe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > Hello:
> >
> > An interviewer asked if I could enable RIP and OSPF on the same network.
> > I answered that it is possible to overlap protocols, but it is not
> > recommended. I said that OSPF has an Administrative Distance lower than
> RIP,
> > so OSPF will be the procotol in use.
> >
> > Is that a complete/correct answer ?
> >
> > Billy
> > CCNA
> >
> >
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OSPF & RIP

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

An interviewer asked if I could enable RIP and OSPF on the same network.
I answered that it is possible to overlap protocols, but it is not
recommended. I said that OSPF has an Administrative Distance lower than RIP,
so OSPF will be the procotol in use.

Is that a complete/correct answer ?


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OSPF & RIP

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

An interviewer asked if I could enable RIP and OSPF on the same network.
I answered that it is possible to overlap protocols, but it is not
recommended. I said that OSPF has an Administrative Distance lower than RIP,
so OSPF will be the procotol in use.

Is that a complete/correct answer ?

Billy
CCNA


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Interview Question - OSPF

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

An interviewer asked if I could enable RIP and OSPF on the same network.
I answered that it is possible to overlap protocols, but it is not
recommended. I said that OSPF has an Administrative Distance lower than RIP,
so OSPF will be the procotol in use.

Is that a correct answer ?

Thanks,

Billy



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IGRP metrics

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

Somebody asked me if IGRP could be configured to use metrics different than
Bandwidth, Load, Delay, MTU and Reliability.

I know that IGRP can be configured using the "variance" command to set
unequal cost load balancing.
I don't think that could be considered a metric. My answer was "no".

Is that correct ?

Thanks,

Billy
CCNA



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Re: CCNP and chances of finding a job

[Billy Monroe]

Well, what I am trying to do is get more theory doing the CCNP to have
chances to get a job like K Sacca described. I also got
a phone interview and I was successfull. During the face-to-face interview
with 7 persons I failed: most of questions were beyond CCNA level, and I
think that I could make it if I had achieved the CCNP knowledge. Of course a
degree and client-server experience and hands-on in the labs would be an
asset a job like that.


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> Ken, WOW, congrats for that :) (thats the ken at cisco)
>
> the other ken, yammy,
> im sorry before hand, but im going to have to flame you before you do
> something stupid.
> DONT GET UR CCNP without exp. thats the kind of stuff, that ruined
microsoft
> certs, thats ruining the CCNA, and that will eventually ruin the CCNP. on
> top of that, you'll have a much easier time passing the ccnp if you have
> work experinence and get real life exposure to networking.
> i worked hard to get my ccnp, and im going for the ccie now, and i'd love
to
> see my certs keep their value and not get devalorized because some ppl
think
> its the easy road to getting the pot of gold. its not, its a hard and
> demanding job, theres always something to learn, and always networks with
> problems. a CCNP is expected certain things, and in case you didnt know,
if
> cisco receives complaints about incompetent work on your part, they can
> revoke your certification. please do yourself a favor by getting
experience,
> your employer might pay ur certs after that, with training, and you'll wa
> ste less time on your own doing so.
> Morgan
> PS, any1 who wishes to flame me on this subject is free to do so, i
> guarantee it wont look pretty in the end.
> I've met one CCNP that had no exp and didnt know wtf he was talking about,
> and i hope for the others out there i never meet one again.
>
>
>
> > -Message d'origine-
> > De: K Sacca [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Date: jeudi 25 mai 2000 03:26
> > À: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Objet: Re: CCNP and chances of finding a job
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > I received my CCNP almost two months ago.  About 2
> > weeks after receiving the cert, I started firing off
> > my resume everywhere.  I received a call from Cisco,
> > as they were interested in my background.  I passed
> > the phone screening, then passed the brutal face to
> > face interviews at Cisco with about 7 people.  I'm now
> > working with the IOS WAN Test team.  Before this job,
> > I had about 10 years of experience with desktop
> > computers, network servers and Microsoft products.  I
> > had a MCSE and a Compaq ASE.  I made the switch to
> > Cisco as I see problems down the road for Microsoft.
> > I think Sprint Paranet will also hire you with a CCNP.
> >
> >
> > Now the task of getting a CCIE should be achievable
> > since Cisco gave me my very own testbed loaded with
> > seven routers.
> >
> > Good Luck.
> >  Ken
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > > "ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > 000e01bfc5c5$bfdfaf00$0201a8c0@isamu">news:000e01bfc5c5$bfdfaf00$0201a8c0@isamu...
> > > What are the chances of a CCNP finding a job without
> > > prior work experience
> > > with routers and such?  I'm debating this issue with
> > > my girfriend.  She
> > > thinks that job experience is more important, and
> > > that I should be looking
> > > for a job to move me up.  I, on the other hand,
> > > don't think I can find much
> > > of a job with just a CCNA and would rather get a
> > > CCNP, but I'm not quite
> > > sure if just a CCNP by itself can land me a job. Any
> > > help would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > >-ken
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Re: Cisco and Unix

[Billy Monroe]

I think a good background in Unix would help to get a position at Cisco.
Most of their testing labs are using Unix.
What I have noticed is that most employers I talk requiring Unix experience
don't give too much attention for Linux knowledge.
I think it is not what they want to hear (yet)...




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> As a newbie to these parts, I've recently decided to start my studies for
> the CCNA 2.0.  Out of curiosity, I went to the Cisco web site and noticed
> many positions I looked at had Unix as a requirement.  So my question, in
> general is it good to have a Unix back ground to complement Cisco
> certification?  If so, would Linux do as a substitute?
>
> Your input is appreciated,
> -ACS
>
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Re: CCNP and chances of finding a job

[Billy Monroe]

Great opinion, TyRhon144000. Exactly what I have been doing and I have got
good results...



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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "TyRhon144000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 5:21 PM
> Subject: Re: CCNP and chances of finding a job
>
>
> > Don't feel bad. You just have to persevere that's all. When you try for
a
> > job, you should list your skills, what you KNOW. When you go for an
> > interview, and if they ask you something that you do not know tell them.
> > Since you do have routers you can get some hands-on, you just have to
> > enhance your skills, and they will get better with time. Look at it this
> > way, when you learn to play an instrument the more you practice the
better
> > you get, and when you practice a lot, like to the point when you get
sick
> of
> > it, you can play it in your sleep.
> > A lot of people feel that people who are certified without experience
are
> > less qualified, but I feel that when you get certified it definitely
> proves
> > that you: (1) Understand the material, and (2)you know how to perform
> > certain configurations. But in the real world, you need to know how and
> when
> > to use different configurations and how to make them work with other
> > technologies.
> > But being certified is definitely a plus. Your only handicap is that,
you
> do
> > not know certain things. For instance, let's say you are working with a
T1
> > line on your serial interface, and it's not up and running, how do you
> > troubleshoot it, in fact what would be the first thing you would do? Now
> to
> > a CCNA (or CCNP, for that matter) with no experience, he would probrably
> be
> > perplexed, but with something like that, the interviewer would figure
that
> > you don't know anything. (Which really is not your problem but his.  :0)
> > To anyone just starting out, I strongly suggest that you get to know
> people
> > who are working in the field, and find out what are the most marketable
> > skills. Even when you are going on the interview, and it seems like it
> isn't
> > going well and you think you might not get the job, ask the interviewer
> for
> > some suggestions. Ask him how he got started, and what would he suggest
> for
> > a newcomer to do.
> > Bottom line is this; the industry is starving. A few places, are smart
and
> > are willing to train, but for the most part, schedules are so tight that
> the
> > companies want you to be able to work on your own from day one. Hence
the
> > paper certification. In a perfect world once you get certified, someone
> > would take you under his wing, and help you enhance your skills; but
this
> is
> > not a perfect world, this is a "DOG EAT DOG" world. Your playing with
the
> > big boy's now.
> > All-in-all you are on the right track, always remember this saying,
> > "Forwards ever, backwards never". No matter what anyone say's, DO NOT GO
> > BACK and start over, (ie. get your A+, or CNA). Just keep moving
forward.
> > I have heard of one "paper CCIE" who is only 23 yrs. old. He had a
friend
> > who had a home lab, he banged away on the equipment, and was able to
make
> > heads and tails of the material, and successfully PASSED the CCIE, and
is
> > currently working. Can you imagine how good he will be in XX amount of
> > years?
> > So stay by the things that you have learned and you will get better, get
> > your CCNP, but don't market yourself as a CCNP, just put CCNA on your
> > resume, and if you get the job THEN say I've got my CCNP. It's always a
> > little better to be over qualified.
> > Hope I have helped
> > Ty
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: CCNP and chances of finding a job
> >
> >
> > > the biggest problem I have, is  finding a job where I can gain
> experience
> > > with cisco routers.  I have had 3 prior jobs dealing with PC's and
> > internet
> > > tech support but it's pretty tough to get my foot in the door with
just
> a
> > > CCNA.  My goal here is to just be able to get a job, and what I'm
> > wondering
> > > is if a CCNP will land me one, because it seems like the ccna wont
> really
> > > help much here.  Not necessarily one that will pay me a good lump but
> one
> > > where I can at least start to get some experience with routers.
> currently
> > I
> > > only have a 2501 here at home that my parents got for me.
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Dollard Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'K Sacca'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:24 AM
> > > Subject: RE: CCNP and chances of finding a job
> > >
> > >
> > > Ken, WOW, congrats for that :) (thats the ken at cisco)
> > >
> > > the other ken, yammy,
> > > im sorry befo

Re: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases?

[Billy Monroe]

The company I worked for also spent big US$ on Cisco products:
The only training they allowed for Gold Partners were 2 days hands-on that
it happened every 3 or 4 months.
Knowledge is the real power and they don't give that for free. That's why I
think I will have to manage to pay training by myself...




""Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NNSY"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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> Ditto!
>
> My site just spent 3.5 MILLION dollars on switches and 3 years prior spent
> 6.2 MILLION on Top of the Line routers. Cisco will give you all kinds of
> neat toys, (Hats, Shirts, mugs etc.) BUT no training. Both times, our
> purchase was part of a group order that totaled 15 mil, and 24 mil,
> respectively. Cisco moved away from the training provider business years
> back. They will highly recommend any of their training partners though.
>
> 
> Brad Stanfield
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lance Hubbard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases?
>
>
> Mark,
>
> About 9 months ago, I bought $400K worth of Catalyst switches for a
project.
>
>   The people I was working for were one of Cisco's OLDEST and most
faithful
> customers.I tried negociating with my Cisco Rep for a class for each
> member of my team, but because they entrust their customer technical
> training to the likes of Globalknowledge, CCTI and CCCI, he couldn't hook
me
>
> up.  Cisco does provide internal training classes, but because of the fact
> that much of the material used in them is company proprietary, they are
> usually paraniod about letting outsiders attend.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Lance
>
> >From: "Mark Holloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Mark Holloway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: OT: Does Cisco give away training for big $ purchases?
> >Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 10:51:48 -0500
> >
> >Has anyone here experienced Cisco giving away free training vouchers to
> >corporations who purchase large amounts of Cisco product?  For example,
at
> >the company I work for I'm in the process of migrating from 3Com LAN/WAN
> >equipment to Cisco.  We spent approximately $600,000 on Cisco gear.  3
> >years ago when we purchased the 3Com equipment they supplied us with
> >"training vouchers" for certified 3Com courses.  Has anyone had this
happen
>
> >with Cisco?  If so, could you please list the name of your company (if
you
> >wouldn't mind).. My local Cisco rep. will provide me with some training
if
> >I can let him know who Cisco has done this for in the past.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Mark
> >
>
> 
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Re: vpn

[Billy Monroe]

By the way, could you clarify an information about VPN:

RAS is a network-to-network connection, correct ? RAS (MS) uses PPTP to
encapsulate PPP and establish a connection.
Is RAS a VPN or not ?


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> My 0.02.
>
> If PISNet own the router, can you do an upgrade?  Who will manage the
> specification? If you found a port that need to be open, do you call
PISNet?
>
> You can use the Proxy Server 2 as the access point.  That is not
recommended
> by MS as that is your firewall.  You can use another NT server behind the
> firewall with PPTP (this will install RAS and bunch of other stuff on that
> box).  You just have to assign the port in the Proxy Server.  For the
> clients, you just have to install the PPTP protocol. As long as the client
> is Windows, it would work.  This setup is for only a few connections.
>
> Albert
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chuck Larrieu
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:37 PM
> To: Parris, Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: vpn
>
>
> 1) yes - to something that runs IPSec. May be a flash and mem upgrade as
> well chances are very good that with more than a couple of simultaneous
> tunnels, your router will crawl to a halt.
>
> some folks install a second device dedicated to tunnel/vpn traffic to keep
> from bogging down the gateway
>
> internet--gateway---firewall-inside network
>   ||
>vpn/tunnel|
>
> 2) don't know. Those wiser than I can answer.
>
> 3) Everything is a matter of degree. Cisco offers the IP/Firewall/IPSec
IOS
> and this is certainly one way of doing things. There are other ways. I
think
> it best to begin with a security policy statement, and work from there.
> Decide what level of risk your company can tolerate ( meaning your top
> management decides, and places this in writing ) and then evaluate
different
> ways of doing things based on this policy.
>
>
> 4) Yes - a client VPN , referred to as "shim" software, installed on any
> machine that wants to connect. In theory these are standards based and
> interoperable. Don't count on it. Nokia/Checkpoint requires the Checkpoint
> client. Cisco uses the IRE client, and IRE says that their client is
> compatible for most uses, but you have to test. There are issues with any
> shim software and any PC, NIC, and applications. Do not assume that this
all
> is plug and play. I have heard many a tale of woe from other SE's, and our
> security group.
>
> Cisco also supports L2TP and PPTP, which require a Microsoft client piece
> for windows users.
>
> Hope this gets you started.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Parris, Brian
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:42 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: FW: vpn
>
>
> Let me asking a specific question while this thread is running.
> Our T1 to the internet is being handled by a Cisco 2514 w/IOS 11.1 running
> on it.  The router is owned by PSINet.  Our security is just being handled
> by our Proxy Server 2.0 .
> We have a lot of outside salesman starting to jump on the broadband
> bandwagon and have found a severe need for a VPN.
> So my question is.
> 1. Do I need to upgrade our IOS version?
> 2. Should I (or have to) get rid of the Proxy Server?
> 3. Can I control all our security through the router?
> 4. Do I need any special software for the clients?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> TIA,
> Brian Parris
> Systems Administrator
> Carotek, Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Irwin Lazar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:37 PM
> To: 'Jesus Suarez Gonzalez'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: vpn
>
> try:
> http://www.itprc.com/vpn.htm
> irwin
> -Original Message-
> From: Jesus Suarez Gonzalez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: vpn
>
>
> I need materia of study about VPN,
> where can i found this material.
>
> regards
>
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OSPF configuration - Please help

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I have two 2503 and I am following Hutnik's to configure OSPF.
I connected RouterA, s0 (DCE) to RouterB, s0(DTE).

When I enter #show ip ospf int I see the following:
...
Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DOWN
  Hello due in...
...


The State should be "POINT_TO_POINT".
The routers don't see each other. (#show ip route doesn't display OSPF
entry).
I entered "no shut" and "shut" in both routers s0 interfaces but it didn't
work. Any idea of what is wrong ?


Configurarion is below.


THanks,









RouterA


!
hostname RouterA
!
int Loopback0
ip add 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0


int Loopback1
ip add 11.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
int S0
ip add 192.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no fair-queue
router ospf 64
network 192.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 10.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0
!
no ip classless
!
...


RouterB


!
hostname RouterB
!
int loopack0
ip add 152.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
int Loopback1
ip add 153.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
int serial0
ip add 192.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
no fair-queue
clockrate 50
!
int s1
no ip add
shutdown
!
router ospf 64
network 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255
!
no ip classless
!
...



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Microsoft 'Routers'

[Billy Monroe]

I see that Microsoft has provided resources to configure OSPF and RIP in
Windows 2000 servers
to provide routing capabilities.

Has anybody evaluate this ? Do you think this could substitute 'real'
routers ?

Thanks,


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Re: Format of BCRAN Exam Needed

[Billy Monroe]

Rath, could you please tell me how you studied for BCRAN ?
Is it worthed buying those prep questions ?


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> Well there are fill in questions but you could choose
> from a list of 25 -20 commands,so if you know what the
> command should be,you can work your way out,
> It's not as hard as ACRC since you dont have to
> remember each command and reproduce them verbatim
>
> Rath
> CCNA,CCDA,BCRAN,BCMSN,MCP
>
>
> --- wind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hiya;
> >
> > Anyone please tell  me the format of the
> > exam ?  Fill in the blank
> > or not? Any comment will be welcme!
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Cheers
> > Vincent
> >
> >
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Paying for Cisco Training ?

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

Do you think it is worthed pay for CCNP training ?
I am studying BSCN (ACRC) at home and I think I am going to pay for BCMSN...
after that study hard at home.
I wonder if anyone here have paid for training and what you think about it.

Thanks,

Billy
CCNA, Compaq ASE


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Re: CVOICE

[Billy Monroe]

Hi Davce,

Have you attended the class for CVOICE ? It is worthed ?

Thanks,

Billt


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> I dont have them, but if you take the class or just read the manual, it
maps
> DIRECTLY to it, very easy test if you have the book..
>
> --
> Dave
> CCNP+voice+ATM/CCDP/CCAI
> CCIE written
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone have the CVOICE (640-447)  exam objectives ? Glad if you can
> > share with us.
> > Thanks !
> >
> > Howard
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BCMSN (CLSC) and ATM

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

Does the course (or study material) BCMSN provide a good enough foundation
in ATM ?


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CCNP (CLSC) and ATM

[Billy Monroe]

Resending this message.

Can you tell me if the CLSC course/material provide a good foundation in ATM
?


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Encapsulation questions

[Billy Monroe]

When the PDU moves up or down in the OSI layer, the process of adding
information to the PDU header is named encapsulation, correct ?

So why it has been said that "encapsulation" occurs in the data link layer ?



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Is it worthed pay for Cisco Classes (CCNP) ?

[Billy Monroe]

I am about to spend big money on Cisco Training and it is better if consult
people with more experience.

Do you think it is worthed to pay for the Cisco training and study hard at
home after that ? I have experience
in the IT industry but not in networking.

I am studying for BSCN (ACRC) by myself. I think I will pay for CLSC
(BCMSN).

Thanks,

Billy
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Would you recommend a good CCNP training in Seattle ?

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I am about to spend some money on BCSN. Could you please let me know if you
have taken a CCNP course
in Seattle, WA and let me know if it was worthed.

Thanks,

Billy
BSEE, CCNA, Compaq ASE


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Re: Looking for CVOICE Books

[Billy Monroe]

I am looking forward to ordering the CIM Voice Internetworking: Basic Voice
Over IP due to be released by July 1st.
Check on www.cisco.com/go/cim


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> Any recommendations on reading materials?
> Are there any CVOICE books out?
>
> Thank you.
> Dorothy
>
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Re: Can some one make a donation

[Billy Monroe]

That's very helpful ! Thanks !
If you know any ISDN free-lab or a cheap on-line rack, please let me know.

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> Perhaps this may be of help.
> A web site has been set up with Cisco routers that you can practice on
> and so far it's free.
> Link www.r1r2.com
> The username is freelab
> the password is frlb
> Good luck with your studies and I hope this helps.
> Natasha
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college
> > for networking.  I have not worked since 1996 and can't afford to buy an
old
> > router to practice on.  If some one has some old equipment they don't
care
> > about I could sure use it...after graduation I will give it to Voc.
Rehab.
> > so some one else can use it.
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Looking for an on line ISDN lab

[Billy Monroe]

I have heard that some people in this list sometimes kindly allow access to
their labs via the Internet.
If so, I would like to practice ISDN using Hutnik's for a couple of hours.

Please let me know if you have seen a good ISDN lab available free (or not
so expensive) where I can connect to via Telnet.

Thanks,

Billy



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Re: Frame-Relay using two routers

[Billy Monroe]

It makes sense. So it means I need a router with two serial interfaces...

Thanks,

Billy


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> you need to switch it to anothet interface to transfer the dlci...
> u need an input and output port for a frame switch
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Frame-Relay using two routers
>
>
> Sorry I know this question has been discussed before but I couldn't find
the
> e-mail regarding this one...
>
> I have two routers (Router1 is the DCE) and when I configure Router1 as a
> switch it returns the message '**Can not switch on same interface'.
> Can you tell me why is not working ?
>
> Here is the configuration:
>
> !
> hostname fakeswitch
> !
> frame-relay switching
> int s0
> no ip address
> encap frame-relay
> clockrate 38400
> frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> frame-relay intf-type dce
> frame-relay route 100 int serial0 135
> ** can not switch on same interface
>
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Frame-Relay using two routers

[Billy Monroe]

Sorry I know this question has been discussed before but I couldn't find the
e-mail regarding this one...

I have two routers (Router1 is the DCE) and when I configure Router1 as a
switch it returns the message '**Can not switch on same interface'.
Can you tell me why is not working ?

Here is the configuration:

!
hostname fakeswitch
!
frame-relay switching
int s0
no ip address
encap frame-relay
clockrate 38400
frame-relay lmi-type ansi
frame-relay intf-type dce
frame-relay route 100 int serial0 135
** can not switch on same interface


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Re: CVOICE Study Material

[Billy Monroe]

CIM Basic VoIP. Go to www.cisco.com/go/cim


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>
> I need some study material for specializing in CVOICE examination.
>
> Please can you suggest any links or books that may be available to prepare
> for this.
>
> Thank You
>
> Shashi
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BGP exercises for BSCN

[Billy Monroe]

Hello:

I am studying for BSCN and I see that I need to practice BGP. I will use (3)
C25xx.

Do you know any link (or book) that contains good configuration exercises on
BGP ? I am using Hutnik's but I am not sure if this one has enough resources
on BGP...

Thanks,

Billy
CCNA, Compaq ASE, MCP




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Re: dilemma.

[Billy Monroe]

Hi Oz,

Seriously, as a CCIE or Senior networking engineer do you have time to enjoy
your family and things that you like to do ?




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> Folks,
> > What is our final goal, get a paper(ccna, ccnp, ccie) or
> > actually learn everything about cisco.
>
> None of the above..
>  To have fun, be a better father and husband.
> Laugh a lot
> Do what I can to the best of my ability.
> Know what I know and know what I don't know.
> All the other stuff will come along by default.
> Enjoy life.
> Strive to get to the point in life where you do what you want to do,
rather
> than do what you have to do .
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