RE: BSCN??

[William E. Gragido]

No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool

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AndyD
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
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Subject: BSCN??


Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??

Thanks,

  AD


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RE: BSCN??

[Buri, Heather H]

For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided in
the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's book,
Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
people recommend for this exam?

I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by McGraw Hill
ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is ridiculous.
Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?

Thanks,

Heather Buri


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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
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Subject: RE: BSCN??


No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool

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AndyD
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
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Subject: BSCN??


Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??

Thanks,

  AD


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RE: BSCN??

[William E. Gragido]

I would say that you are better off buying Sam Halabis book for a formidable
comparison.  I cannot really comment on Thomas's book due to the fact that I
never read it.  I can say however that the amount of BGPv4 info studied
should come from varied sources.

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From: Buri, Heather H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:55 AM
To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: BSCN??


For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided in
the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's book,
Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
people recommend for this exam?

I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by McGraw Hill
ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is ridiculous.
Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?

Thanks,

Heather Buri


-Original Message-
From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BSCN??


No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool

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AndyD
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BSCN??


Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??

Thanks,

  AD


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RE: BSCN??

[Timothy Metz]

I just took the BSCN today and all I used was the Cisco Press book. I read
the book and then read it again while creating my own study guide. So far,
the Cisco press books have not let me down one bit. If you know them, you
will have zero problems on the test.

As far as the test itself, in my case, the first two thirds were easy. What
I mean by that is no reading in-between the lines or remembering really
obscure details were necessary. The last third took as long as the first two
thirds. The questions were challenging and required much thought. I scored a
885.


Tim

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Buri, Heather H
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:55 PM
> To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: BSCN??
>
>
> For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided in
> the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's book,
> Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
> people recommend for this exam?
>
> I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by
> McGraw Hill
> ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
> already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is
> ridiculous.
> Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Heather Buri
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: BSCN??
>
>
> No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> AndyD
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BSCN??
>
>
> Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
> questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
>
> Thanks,
>
>   AD
>
>
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Re: BSCN??

[netlinesys]

Well done Tim,

I am going for this test .. hopefully in March


Timothy Metz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just took the BSCN today and all I used was the Cisco Press book. I read
> the book and then read it again while creating my own study guide. So far,
> the Cisco press books have not let me down one bit. If you know them, you
> will have zero problems on the test.
>
> As far as the test itself, in my case, the first two thirds were easy.
What
> I mean by that is no reading in-between the lines or remembering really
> obscure details were necessary. The last third took as long as the first
two
> thirds. The questions were challenging and required much thought. I scored
a
> 885.
>
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Buri, Heather H
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:55 PM
> > To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided
in
> > the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's
book,
> > Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
> > people recommend for this exam?
> >
> > I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by
> > McGraw Hill
> > ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
> > already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is
> > ridiculous.
> > Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Heather Buri
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > AndyD
> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
> > questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >   AD
> >
> >
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Re: BSCN??

[Gopinath Pulyankote]

was there any IPX EIGRP questions?

"Timothy Metz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just took the BSCN today and all I used was the Cisco Press book. I read
> the book and then read it again while creating my own study guide. So far,
> the Cisco press books have not let me down one bit. If you know them, you
> will have zero problems on the test.
>
> As far as the test itself, in my case, the first two thirds were easy.
What
> I mean by that is no reading in-between the lines or remembering really
> obscure details were necessary. The last third took as long as the first
two
> thirds. The questions were challenging and required much thought. I scored
a
> 885.
>
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Buri, Heather H
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:55 PM
> > To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided
in
> > the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's
book,
> > Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
> > people recommend for this exam?
> >
> > I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by
> > McGraw Hill
> > ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
> > already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is
> > ridiculous.
> > Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Heather Buri
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > AndyD
> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
> > questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >   AD
> >
> >
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RE: BSCN??

[hamlet]

Try "routing in the internet" by christian huitema (2ns edition has an
orange cover)
very in-depth coverage of all the major routing protocols, good to read
cover to cover, a brief section on IS-IS and some other rare protocols is
included.

plus: recommended by nanog ;)

-hamlet

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, William E. Gragido wrote:

> I would say that you are better off buying Sam Halabis book for a formidable
> comparison.  I cannot really comment on Thomas's book due to the fact that I
> never read it.  I can say however that the amount of BGPv4 info studied
> should come from varied sources.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Buri, Heather H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:55 AM
> To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: BSCN??
> 
> 
> For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided in
> the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's book,
> Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
> people recommend for this exam?
> 
> I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by McGraw Hill
> ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
> already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is ridiculous.
> Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Heather Buri
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: BSCN??
> 
> 
> No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> AndyD
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BSCN??
> 
> 
> Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
> questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   AD
> 
> 
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RE: BSCN??

[Fowler, Joey]

Usually I try and stay out of the clutter related to books, but relating to
the Original posting for this thread(which I couldn't find) My personal
comments on the CiscoPress book are to read chapter 9 first. While studying,
be prepared to turn to it to clarify concepts. Sometimes you are so busy
trying to figure all the in depth stuff you miss the whole picture, and that
chapter tries to keep things simple.

Joey

-Original Message-
From: hamlet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:28 PM
To: William E. Gragido
Cc: 'Buri, Heather H'; 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: BSCN??



Try "routing in the internet" by christian huitema (2ns edition has an
orange cover)
very in-depth coverage of all the major routing protocols, good to read
cover to cover, a brief section on IS-IS and some other rare protocols is
included.

plus: recommended by nanog ;)

-hamlet

On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, William E. Gragido wrote:

> I would say that you are better off buying Sam Halabis book for a
formidable
> comparison.  I cannot really comment on Thomas's book due to the fact that
I
> never read it.  I can say however that the amount of BGPv4 info studied
> should come from varied sources.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Buri, Heather H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:55 AM
> To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: BSCN??
> 
> 
> For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided in
> the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's book,
> Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
> people recommend for this exam?
> 
> I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by McGraw
Hill
> ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
> already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is
ridiculous.
> Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Heather Buri
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: BSCN??
> 
> 
> No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> AndyD
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BSCN??
> 
> 
> Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
> questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>   AD
> 
> 
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RE: BSCN??

[William E. Gragido]

I cannot say that there were or were not, that would violate the NDA,
however I can say that I did not spend nearly as much time studying IPX
EIGRP scenarios as I did studying IP EIGRP scenarios.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gopinath Pulyankote
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 12:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BSCN??


was there any IPX EIGRP questions?

"Timothy Metz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I just took the BSCN today and all I used was the Cisco Press book. I read
> the book and then read it again while creating my own study guide. So far,
> the Cisco press books have not let me down one bit. If you know them, you
> will have zero problems on the test.
>
> As far as the test itself, in my case, the first two thirds were easy.
What
> I mean by that is no reading in-between the lines or remembering really
> obscure details were necessary. The last third took as long as the first
two
> thirds. The questions were challenging and required much thought. I scored
a
> 885.
>
>
> Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Buri, Heather H
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:55 PM
> > To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP provided
in
> > the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's
book,
> > Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) do
> > people recommend for this exam?
> >
> > I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by
> > McGraw Hill
> > ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but have
> > already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is
> > ridiculous.
> > Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Heather Buri
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
> > To: 'AndyD'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its cool
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > AndyD
> > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: BSCN??
> >
> >
> > Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there any
> > questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >   AD
> >
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RE: BSCN??

[Stephen Skinner]

for a really GOOD instruction on BGP + explanations
try the following URL.

it`s the best BGP guide i ever seen

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/bgp-toc.html


regards steve
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>Subject: RE: BSCN??
>Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:11:47 -0600
>
>I cannot say that there were or were not, that would violate the NDA,
>however I can say that I did not spend nearly as much time studying IPX
>EIGRP scenarios as I did studying IP EIGRP scenarios.
>
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>
>was there any IPX EIGRP questions?
>
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> > I just took the BSCN today and all I used was the Cisco Press book. I 
>read
> > the book and then read it again while creating my own study guide. So 
>far,
> > the Cisco press books have not let me down one bit. If you know them, 
>you
> > will have zero problems on the test.
> >
> > As far as the test itself, in my case, the first two thirds were easy.
>What
> > I mean by that is no reading in-between the lines or remembering really
> > obscure details were necessary. The last third took as long as the first
>two
> > thirds. The questions were challenging and required much thought. I 
>scored
>a
> > 885.
> >
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > Buri, Heather H
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:55 PM
> > > To: 'William E. Gragido'; 'AndyD'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> > >
> > >
> > > For this exam, would you recommend that the explanation of BGP 
>provided
>in
> > > the BSCN books is sufficient or would you recommend Basaam Halabi's
>book,
> > > Internet Routing Architectures, to pass the exam?  Also, what book(s) 
>do
> > > people recommend for this exam?
> > >
> > > I currently have the BSCN book by Thomas M. Thomas published by
> > > McGraw Hill
> > > ISBN 0-07-212477-6 and I don't like it.  I am only on Chapter 4 but 
>have
> > > already found too many typos in it.  I expect a few, but this is
> > > ridiculous.
> > > Can anyone recommend the book by Cisco Press for BSCN?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Heather Buri
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:12 AM
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> > > Subject: RE: BSCN??
> > >
> > >
> > > No IS-IS, but you must know OSPF configs, EIGRP and BGPv4 like its 
>cool
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
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> > > AndyD
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> > > Subject: BSCN??
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anybody out there taken the BSCN test?? How was it??  Were there 
>any
> > > questions on IS-IS?  Mostly OSPF and BGP??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
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Re: BSCN

[John Neiberger]

I don't know about the Sybex book.  I used the BSCN Study guide from
CiscoPress, Routing TCP/IP, and Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd
edition.  Read through both study guides and the EIGRP and OSPF sections
of Routing TCP/IP.  If you understand and can explain what you've read
at that point, you'll do fine.

John

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I just purchased the CCNP Routing Study Guide published by Sybex. Is
the
BSCN Cisco Press book better? I also have Routing TCP/IP Volume one.
What should I use to study for the exam.

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Re: BSCN

[Mark Stricker]

I agree -- The BSCN book covered everything on the exam, and in the right
proportions. (I passed last week using only that book).

But I didn't use the Sybex book -- they're usually pretty good.

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> I don't know about the Sybex book.  I used the BSCN Study guide from
> CiscoPress, Routing TCP/IP, and Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd
> edition.  Read through both study guides and the EIGRP and OSPF sections
> of Routing TCP/IP.  If you understand and can explain what you've read
> at that point, you'll do fine.
>
> John
>
> >>> "Manny Colon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/14/01 9:26:00 AM >>>
> I just purchased the CCNP Routing Study Guide published by Sybex. Is
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Re: BSCN

[Gayathri]

I am studying from the Cisco Press Book by catherine Paquet and Diane Teare

Its quiet good and covers from teh exam point of view

Regards

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RE: BSCN....

[martijn michiel]

What is your background, for comparison?
Martijn

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Anybody could suggest the type of questions in BSCN exam 
What is the level of BSCN
Thanks
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Re: BSCN

[David Armstrong]

CIR is the Committed Information Rate which is determined by the Frame Relay
vendor. It is the rate they guarantee that they will move your data through
their Frame Relay network. Each PVC (DLCI to DLCI connection) can have a
different CIR.

>From your example (I'm assuming that you are giving Port Access speeds) it
appears that there is a central router with a 128k Port Access and 2 branch
routers with 64k Port Access. The Port Access is the bandwidth/speed  that
the router connects to the Frame Relay network. Data can possibly be moved
at Port Access speed through bursting above the CIR even though the Frame
Relay provider only guarantees the CIR.

>From the information you  gave the CIR isn't known; however, neither PVC can
move data beyond their Port Access speed which in your example is 64k.

David Armstrong

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find
> the CIR of a Pipe that has Ex: 2 64 and 1 128 PVC's?  Would it be the
least
> PVC times the # of PVC's or what would be the answer.  Any help would be
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Re: bscn

[Tom Keough]

No review...

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Re: bscn

[Bharat Suneja]

No, you cannot mark or review answers in any of the Cisco tests. You have to
be absolutely sure the very first time around about your answers - there's
no turning back!

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RE: bscn

[Chuck Larrieu]

Betcha you can on SOME of Cisco's tests. SO FAR!  ;->

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No, you cannot mark or review answers in any of the Cisco tests. You have to
be absolutely sure the very first time around about your answers - there's
no turning back!

Bharat Suneja

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Re: bscn

[Bharat Suneja]

Thanks for correcting me Chuck... on which ones ?

Bharat

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RE: bscn

[Chuck Larrieu]

At the time I took them, the CID and the CCIE R&S written allowed one to
mark and review.

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Thanks for correcting me Chuck... on which ones ?

Bharat

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>
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Re: BSCN

[Seth Wilson]

I'm studying for Routing as well.  I don't have the ISBNs for these, but if
you want a good understanding of the material you should pick up Bassam
Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture, and Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP.
I'm presently working my way through the Doyle book, and find the reading
both easy and informative.  I've started Halabi's book and I'm a bit lost
with all the NAP's and NSF's of the overview, but it seems to be just as
informative.  I think these are probably two very good texts to read.  I do
plan on getting the Cisco Press BSCN book just to fill in any gaps for the
exam.  Good luck.

~Seth~

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> Hi guys,
>
> I need your help. I'll will be taking the BSCN sometimes in Feb. this
year.
> Could you please advise me on which preparation kit to use? Has anyone
used
> CCNP: Routing Study Guide by Todd Lammle, Sean Odom, Kevin Wallace ISBN:
> 0782127126 ?
> if yes how do you rate it ?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: BSCN

[Georg Naggies]

after doyle+halabi there will be no more gaps - you can save your money for
the other book
thats my advice, i passed with 894/1000

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> I'm studying for Routing as well.  I don't have the ISBNs for these, but
if
> you want a good understanding of the material you should pick up Bassam
> Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture, and Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP.
> I'm presently working my way through the Doyle book, and find the reading
> both easy and informative.  I've started Halabi's book and I'm a bit lost
> with all the NAP's and NSF's of the overview, but it seems to be just as
> informative.  I think these are probably two very good texts to read.  I
do
> plan on getting the Cisco Press BSCN book just to fill in any gaps for the
> exam.  Good luck.
>
> ~Seth~
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>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I need your help. I'll will be taking the BSCN sometimes in Feb. this
> year.
> > Could you please advise me on which preparation kit to use? Has anyone
> used
> > CCNP: Routing Study Guide by Todd Lammle, Sean Odom, Kevin Wallace ISBN:
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> > if yes how do you rate it ?
> >
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Re: BSCN

[Daniel Boutet]

If you go back a few days (starting Saturday morning) I have made a few
comments on the same book.
So far, on my first read, it doesn't rate very high. As far as a study guide
for the BSCN exam I would not count on it.
I know I will be using Internet Routing  Architecture by Halabi (Second
Edition) for BGP and at least Jeff Doyle's
"bible" on TCP/IP for OSPF

I am half way through chapter 8 (bgp) and it is good for an intro to bgp. I
did like the "intro" to OSPF also from chapter
5 and 6.  But this is all I will call it "an intro".
It lacks way too much "flow" and there is not nearly enough diagram/example
of real configuration.
However ther is a very good description of the output of the "show commands"
for OSPF.

Just a man's point of view!

Daniel

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RE: BSCN

[Mike Emigh]

I would recommend getting another book. This is first edition, and full of
errors. Also, the book lacks explanation in some areas (gets confusing).
What really bothers me the most about it is the fact that the IOS commands
they show sometimes are wrong!

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RE: BSCN

[Shaheed, Manzur]

Lots of errors.

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> Building Scalable Cisco Networks 
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Re: BSCN

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> I'm planning to take BSCN test soon.
> Anyone had a question relating to AppleTalk and
> Nonroutable Protocol in the test ?

No. It's only about IP routing.

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RE: BSCN

[Evan Francen]

There were no questions on AppleTalk, IPX or switching methods.  You must
know EIGRP, OSPF, BGP, route optimization, and some policy-based routing in
order to pass.

Hope this helps,
Evan Francen

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I'm planning to take BSCN test soon.
Anyone had a question relating to AppleTalk and 
Nonroutable Protocol in the test ?

Thank you.

Gene 

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Re: BSCN

[Brian]

I will tell you my plan.  I am studying BCMSN today, since the materials
are out for that.  The materials are out for CIT and BCRAN as well.  BCSN
is not out and will not be out until mid-August (I am talking about
ciscopress materials, other companies may in fact have materials).

So I am not doing the BCSN first, by the time I am done with BCMSN, the
BCSN stuff will be out.

Brian


On Tue, 18 Jul 2000, Roland Van Mulders wrote:

> hi guys,
> 
> I have just passed my CCNA ver 2.0, last week. Now i am preparing the BSCN
> (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) ver 1.0.
> 
> Is there somebody who can tell me where I can find some books about BSCN and
> some samples
> questions in order to learn more easily that exam.
> 
> thank you.
> 
> 
> Roland Van Mulders
> 
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Re: BSCN

[Roman]

There are no 'BSCN' books yet - not until August.  If you want to study for
it now, just start reading anything you can get your hands on in reference
to OSPF, EIGRP, BGP, VLSM, and Routing TCP/IP effectively.  As far
as practice tests, check out www.boson.com.

Roman


At 04:51 PM 7/18/00 +0200, you wrote:

>hi guys,
>
>I have just passed my CCNA ver 2.0, last week. Now i am preparing the BSCN
>(Building Scalable Cisco Networks) ver 1.0.
>
>Is there somebody who can tell me where I can find some books about BSCN and
>some samples
>questions in order to learn more easily that exam.
>
>thank you.
>
>
>Roland Van Mulders


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Re: BSCN

[kikpasa]

Hi,
  A number of people have reconmmended Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP Volume 1 -
for the routing protocols, and the BGP white paper on CertificationZone for BGP

Cheers
Kerry

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>
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>
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> some samples
> questions in order to learn more easily that exam.
>
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> Roland Van Mulders
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RE: BSCN Help!

[Hawthorne, Mike MM]

Title: RE: BSCN Help!





http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/


Hi Anurag. The above site contains all the required info for all the CISCO exams. Besides study aids it also gives you the info you are looking for. Just follow the CISCO links at the bottom of the page.

Good luck...
Mike


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Hi!
Can someone please explain me the test format for the Building Scalable
Cisco Networks (BSCN)640-503 Routing exam ? Like # of questions, minimum
pass etc.. as this is the first series 2 exam I plan to take.


Thanks in advance,


Anurag,
CCNA, CLSC... and now BSCN soon, hopefully!



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Re: BSCN Help!

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Just a caveat that, while I usually read them for a 
fresh perpective, I have found the cramsession info, er, 'less' than helpful on 
the actual exams. 
 
---JRE---
 
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  Good luck... Mike 
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RE: BSCN LAB

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Each pair of students in a BSCN class has a pod of three routers connected
to two backbone routers.
Router1 has four serial ports.
Router2 has two serial and one Ethernet
Router3 has two serial and one Ethernet.
The backbone routers have one serial per student pod.
Router1 connects to Backbone1 with one serial.
Router1 connects to Router2 with two serial.
Router1 connects to Router3 with one serial.
Router2 connects to Router3 via Ethernet.
Router3 connects to Backbone2 with one serial.
No switches.

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> I have looked through the Archive but I was unable to find 
> out what Type of
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RE: BSCN Exam

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I am studying for 2.0 to test on Friday.  I was using the ACRC books and
there was a lot of DDR and Bridging.  When I bought some study tests off the
internet for 2.0, I didn't notice any questions on ISDN, DDR, or Bridging.
Can you tell me, is this stuff not on routing 2.0 anymore??  Is it now on
the new 2.0 CCNA?  Any help would be greatly appreciated as I test on Friday
and I would like to focus my study efforts.

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> Passed Routing 2.0 today, thanks in part to info I got from the
> questions on this site.
> 
> If your prepping for this; know BGP and EIGRP theory & focus on the
> syntax of the set and show commands. You need to know the command syntax
> and also the console prompt it should be entered from. You should also
> be familiar with interpreting the effects of such commands when
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[Dan Henry]

"Wilson, Christian" wrote:
> 
> I am studying for 2.0 to test on Friday.  I was using the ACRC books and
> there was a lot of DDR and Bridging.  When I bought some study tests off the
> internet for 2.0, I didn't notice any questions on ISDN, DDR, or Bridging.
> Can you tell me, is this stuff not on routing 2.0 anymore??  Is it now on
> the new 2.0 CCNA?  Any help would be greatly appreciated as I test on Friday
> and I would like to focus my study efforts.




Christian,

I took and passed BSCN last week-- no bridging, no DDR.



> >
> >
>

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RE: BSCN Exam

[Adesope, Olusola (DSPL)]

Why not visit Cisco site and have a look at the objectives. There is no
bridging, no DDR, no access lists etc. anymore on BSCN (Routing 2.0) exams. 

Thanks.

'Sola

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"Wilson, Christian" wrote:
> 
> I am studying for 2.0 to test on Friday.  I was using the ACRC
books and
> there was a lot of DDR and Bridging.  When I bought some study
tests off the
> internet for 2.0, I didn't notice any questions on ISDN, DDR, or
Bridging.
> Can you tell me, is this stuff not on routing 2.0 anymore??  Is it
now on
> the new 2.0 CCNA?  Any help would be greatly appreciated as I test
on Friday
> and I would like to focus my study efforts.




Christian,

I took and passed BSCN last week-- no bridging, no DDR.



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""Wilson, Christian"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I am studying for 2.0 to test on Friday.  I was using the ACRC books and
> there was a lot of DDR and Bridging.  When I bought some study tests off
the
> internet for 2.0, I didn't notice any questions on ISDN, DDR, or Bridging.
> Can you tell me, is this stuff not on routing 2.0 anymore??  Is it now on
> the new 2.0 CCNA?  Any help would be greatly appreciated as I test on
Friday
> and I would like to focus my study efforts.

ISDN and DDR are now on the BCRAN test (in addition to some on the CCNA
test). Bridging, at least transparent bridging, is covered a little on the
BCMSN test - particularly in regards to spanning tree.

BTW, you may have already heard this, but be sure to get some supplementary
BGP info prior to tackling BSCN.

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Re: BSCN Exam

[Janto Cin]

Hi Dan and everybody in the group,

I'll take the exam tomorrow, would you pls give me
last advise ?
TIA.

Kind Regards,
Janto

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> "Wilson, Christian" wrote:
> > 
> > I am studying for 2.0 to test on Friday.  I was
> using the ACRC books and
> > there was a lot of DDR and Bridging.  When I
> bought some study tests off the
> > internet for 2.0, I didn't notice any questions on
> ISDN, DDR, or Bridging.
> > Can you tell me, is this stuff not on routing 2.0
> anymore??  Is it now on
> > the new 2.0 CCNA?  Any help would be greatly
> appreciated as I test on Friday
> > and I would like to focus my study efforts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Christian,
> 
> I took and passed BSCN last week-- no bridging, no
> DDR.
> 
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> 
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[Dan Henry]

Janto Cin wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan and everybody in the group,
> 
> I'll take the exam tomorrow, would you pls give me
> last advise ?
> TIA.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Janto



Janto,

Sorry I didn't get to read your email til just now. Here's a link to a
good pdf file. It might be helpful to print it up, get to the test site
15-20 minutes early and go thru this cram-doc right before the test.

 http://www.getccnp.com/

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RE: BSCN book

[Butcher, Matthew]

only place I found it was @ fatbrain.com, it is only $60.
interesting fact of this book; you need 36 routers (according to appendix H)
to complete the labs!
I have made it past the 1st 2 chapters, very good stuff, real world stuff
that I can relate to using @ the client sites! 

matt


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Do you guys know where I can get this for lower than the retail price? If I
go through my work I get a discount but it takes too damn long... I'm taking
a trip next week and want it sooner. Any suggestions?

Cheers,
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Re: BSCN book

[Henry Ngo]

You can go to bestbookbuys.com which is kind of a pricewatch.com for books.
It seems like the book is so new that they are going for retail at most book
stores.  However, you can get coupon codes for $10.00 off at Barnes&Nobles.
That's what I did - it paid for shipping.

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[Brian W.]

I am a little behind in reading, but like www.mysimin.com to find stuff
cheap.

Brian

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> a trip next week and want it sooner. Any suggestions?
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> Jeff
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Re: BSCN Exam

[Rick Cossey]

I would study Scalable Cisco Networks..
I would also have started by looking at the
course on www.cisco.com, but then again that would
require work on your part
Rick
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> I will be taking my BSCN in 3 weeks times, so would like to know what
> should i study for? or is there any other materials i can get from the
> web.
>
> Thank, with regards
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Re: BSCN exam

[Edward Solomon]

> Does anyone have some more detailed information about the BSCN exam?
> it seems to be really different from that ACRC exam but how much?
>
> What are the number of question, passing score, are there lots of fill in
> questions, what do it focuse on ?

The passing score is 690 and you have 61 questions, if I remember correctly.
They are all multiple choice. You do not have to type in commands any more,
as in the ACRC test. The exam focuses on VLSM, CIDR, OSPF (single and
multi-area), E-IGRP, BGP (internal and external, plus scalability features),
route redistribution and policy-based routing.

Be familiar with the theory and configuration commands for the above topics
as they are guaranteed to turn up on the test. Know OSPF, E-IGRP and BGP
route summarisation, know how these protocols function (in detail) and make
sure that you are quite familiar with their algorithms and how they
calculate network reachability. Know BGP *thoroughly*. There are many
questions about it and you need to know how it works in great depth. Know
all the path attributes and the ways in which BGP routers communicate with
one another.

I can't stress all this enough. The exam is substantially different from
ACRC. You have to know all about how these scalable routing protocols work,
as well as how distance vector protocols function. There are the odd few
questions about those, too. BGP is probably the most significant difference
between the Routing 2.0 exam and the old ACRC test.

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Re: BSCN EXAM

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> Just checking - anyone out there done this recently???

Yes.

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RE: BSCN Books

[RingLord]

Yes search on Amazon for BSCN and read the reviews



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Hi,

is there any good BSCN books out there.

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Re: BSCN Books ?

[ed smith]

Go to www.borders.com   search on ISBN: 1578700930

they have the best price and Barnes and Noble doesn't even carry it yet.

Ed


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>What book should I use to study for BSCN ?
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>>From: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
>>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:27:39 -0400
>>
>>""Anil Panjwani"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>
>> > hi
>> > that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious
>>for
>> > putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines
>> >
>> > can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges & access-lists are 
>>actually
>> > removed?
>>
>>I teach BSCN and the IPX, ISDN, bridging and access-list topics have been
>>removed. You are still required to have an understanding of how to
>>construct
>>access-lists as these are used for route filtering and route maps
>>(policy-based routing). The questions in the Routing 2.0 test map exactly
>>to
>>the topic areas in the course and I found nothing untoward or unexpected
>>turning up in the test. This is a much better-constructed course than ACRC
>>and has brand new labs and case studies to supplement the course material.
>>The student/equipment ratio is also far better. Instead of having one
>>router
>>between two students, there is now a whole student pod of three routers 
>>(in
>>our lab at IBM Canada, one 3640 and two 2522s) to be managed by two
>>students. There really isn't a single topic that hasn't been revised or
>>rewritten. To my mind, having attended ACRC and seen BSCN, there is only
>>one
>>major area of difference between the two: ACRC touched on BGP in about 20
>>pages. BSCN has two very sizeable chapeters on BGP, replete with labs and
>>case studies. The last day of the course is pretty much one gigantic
>>superlab with everything learned in the course being configured.
>>
>>--
>>
>>Edward Solomon
>>CCNA, CCSI
>>Senior I/T Specialist
>>Networking Solutions
>>IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services
>>Tel.: (905) 316-3241  Fax: (905) 316-3101
>>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: BSCN Books ?

[Fomes Iain]

 There are no cisco training guides out yet for Building Scalable Ciso
Networks 
they are due to published the middle of this month
BSCMN has been out for about 2 months 
iIf you want to study BSCN i.e the new routing exam study OSPF BGP and EIGRP
and forget the rest 
Use the Cisco web site that is what it is there for.It is almost always
as well more up to date than even 
the Cisco Press books yet to be published 
There is not a book that will teach you what you need to be able to
understand it properly..
You need to do the hard work yourselves
 


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> 
> Go to www.borders.com   search on ISBN: 1578700930
> 
> they have the best price and Barnes and Noble doesn't even carry it yet.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
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> >
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> >>From: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
> >>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:27:39 -0400
> >>
> >>""Anil Panjwani"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> > hi
> >> > that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious
> >>for
> >> > putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines
> >> >
> >> > can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges & access-lists are 
> >>actually
> >> > removed?
> >>
> >>I teach BSCN and the IPX, ISDN, bridging and access-list topics have
> been
> >>removed. You are still required to have an understanding of how to
> >>construct
> >>access-lists as these are used for route filtering and route maps
> >>(policy-based routing). The questions in the Routing 2.0 test map
> exactly
> >>to
> >>the topic areas in the course and I found nothing untoward or unexpected
> >>turning up in the test. This is a much better-constructed course than
> ACRC
> >>and has brand new labs and case studies to supplement the course
> material.
> >>The student/equipment ratio is also far better. Instead of having one
> >>router
> >>between two students, there is now a whole student pod of three routers 
> >>(in
> >>our lab at IBM Canada, one 3640 and two 2522s) to be managed by two
> >>students. There really isn't a single topic that hasn't been revised or
> >>rewritten. To my mind, having attended ACRC and seen BSCN, there is only
> >>one
> >>major area of difference between the two: ACRC touched on BGP in about
> 20
> >>pages. BSCN has two very sizeable chapeters on BGP, replete with labs
> and
> >>case studies. The last day of the course is pretty much one gigantic
> >>superlab with everything learned in the course being configured.
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >

RE: BSCN Books ?

[Croyle, James]

Not true, I just took a course by KnowledgeNet and it includes the official
slide presentation with notes below each slide on each of the new CCNP
track.  I have taken all 4 of the courses, and taken 2 of the tests, about
to take BSCN.  The courses are official Cisco courseware, and the class/book
is GREAT, and so are the presenters.  No, I don't work for them.  :-)

Jim Croyle
CMS Information Services

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From: Fomes Iain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:09 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: BSCN Books ?


 There are no cisco training guides out yet for Building Scalable Ciso
Networks 
they are due to published the middle of this month
BSCMN has been out for about 2 months 
iIf you want to study BSCN i.e the new routing exam study OSPF BGP and EIGRP
and forget the rest 
Use the Cisco web site that is what it is there for.It is almost always
as well more up to date than even 
the Cisco Press books yet to be published 
There is not a book that will teach you what you need to be able to
understand it properly..
You need to do the hard work yourselves
 


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> Subject:  Re: BSCN Books ?
> 
> Go to www.borders.com   search on ISBN: 1578700930
> 
> they have the best price and Barnes and Noble doesn't even carry it yet.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
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> >
> >
> >>From: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
> >>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:27:39 -0400
> >>
> >>""Anil Panjwani"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >>
> >> > hi
> >> > that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious
> >>for
> >> > putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines
> >> >
> >> > can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges & access-lists are 
> >>actually
> >> > removed?
> >>
> >>I teach BSCN and the IPX, ISDN, bridging and access-list topics have
> been
> >>removed. You are still required to have an understanding of how to
> >>construct
> >>access-lists as these are used for route filtering and route maps
> >>(policy-based routing). The questions in the Routing 2.0 test map
> exactly
> >>to
> >>the topic areas in the course and I found nothing untoward or unexpected
> >>turning up in the test. This is a much better-constructed course than
> ACRC
> >>and has brand new labs and case studies to supplement the course
> material.
> >>The student/equipment ratio is also far better. Instead of having one
> >>router
> >>between two students, there is now a whole student pod of three routers 
> >>(in
> >>our lab at IBM Canada, one 3640 and two 2522s) to be managed by two
> >&g

Re: BSCN Books ?

[Rah Sta]

Thank for the info. But the isbn # you gave me was for BCSMSN not BSCN.




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>Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 14:28:21 GMT
>
>Go to www.borders.com   search on ISBN: 1578700930
>
>they have the best price and Barnes and Noble doesn't even carry it yet.
>
>Ed
>
>
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>>
>>>From: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: "Edward Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: ACRC Vs. BSCN
>>>Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 09:27:39 -0400
>>>
>>>""Anil Panjwani"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>>
>>> > hi
>>> > that's the impression i get from exam outline. but cisco is notorious
>>>for
>>> > putting up Qs which are remotely connected to exam outlines
>>> >
>>> > can anyone clarify if IPX, ISDN DDR, Bridges & access-lists are
>>>actually
>>> > removed?
>>>
>>>I teach BSCN and the IPX, ISDN, bridging and access-list topics have been
>>>removed. You are still required to have an understanding of how to
>>>construct
>>>access-lists as these are used for route filtering and route maps
>>>(policy-based routing). The questions in the Routing 2.0 test map exactly
>>>to
>>>the topic areas in the course and I found nothing untoward or unexpected
>>>turning up in the test. This is a much better-constructed course than 
>>>ACRC
>>>and has brand new labs and case studies to supplement the course 
>>>material.
>>>The student/equipment ratio is also far better. Instead of having one
>>>router
>>>between two students, there is now a whole student pod of three routers
>>>(in
>>>our lab at IBM Canada, one 3640 and two 2522s) to be managed by two
>>>students. There really isn't a single topic that hasn't been revised or
>>>rewritten. To my mind, having attended ACRC and seen BSCN, there is only
>>>one
>>>major area of difference between the two: ACRC touched on BGP in about 20
>>>pages. BSCN has two very sizeable chapeters on BGP, replete with labs and
>>>case studies. The last day of the course is pretty much one gigantic
>>>superlab with everything learned in the course being configured.
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Edward Solomon
>>>CCNA, CCSI
>>>Senior I/T Specialist
>>>Networking Solutions
>>>IBM Canada Ltd. - Learning Services
>>>Tel.: (905) 316-3241  Fax: (905) 316-3101
>>>E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html
>>>
>>>
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Re: BSCN Questions

[NeoLink2000]

In a message dated 8/5/00 10:45:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< For those who have taken the BSCN:
 
 What kind of questions are on the test?  (NOTE: I am asking generalities,
 not specifics-don't want to violate the Cisco Agreement)
 
 Stevan Pierce
  >>

Steven, you can find the answer to your question in the archives at the 
groupstudy.com site. Good luck.

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Re: BSCN Material

[mlawler]

This is tough but as I know now there are no books for the BSCN.  Except for those in 
the course which I have.  But I am using them now and then have promissed them to 
someone else.  If you are in great need of this info try the router exam outline from 
cisco, you can find the material covered in multiple places.  Almost all of the 
material is in the ACRC stuff and as a matter of fact a good amount of ACRC stuff has 
been removed.

Good Luck

ML

Swart Douwe wrote:

> I am sure this has been asked before, but I am unable to find it in the
> archivesso here it is againI hope you don't mind -
>
> Has anyone found a particularly good book that covers BSCN?
>
> One that is concise, appropriate, and as bug free as possible.
>
> Thanks for your help :-)
>
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Re: BSCN Material

[brandon.carroll]

You can get all the information from the BSCN book, directly off the Cisco 
website.  Search for "Configuring IP routing Protocols," "Varience,""BGP," 
and the OSPF design guide by Sam Halibi.  The only other info was route 
summarization, and VLSM.   

Brandon J Carroll- CCNA
ADSL Specialist- Enhanced Products Group
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RE: BSCN Material

[Emilia Lambros]

I'm sitting in the course as I type and I can vouch that a lot of the ACRC
stuff has been removed.

This is SOLELY an IP routing course.  There is nothing about hardware
involved in this course like there was with ACRC :)

Em

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 8/11/00 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: BSCN Material

This is tough but as I know now there are no books for the BSCN.  Except
for those in the course which I have.  But I am using them now and then
have promissed them to someone else.  If you are in great need of this
info try the router exam outline from cisco, you can find the material
covered in multiple places.  Almost all of the material is in the ACRC
stuff and as a matter of fact a good amount of ACRC stuff has been
removed.

Good Luck

ML

Swart Douwe wrote:

> I am sure this has been asked before, but I am unable to find it in
the
> archivesso here it is againI hope you don't mind -
>
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RE: BSCN Material

[Leigh Anne Chisholm]

I've been going through the official ICND (Interconnecting Cisco Network Device) 
curriculum for the past week and have been surprised by how much of ACRC I've seen in 
the course.  CLSC as well.  It's probably a fair guess that everything that you've 
seen removed from the old ACRC course is in fact in ICND to make way for the more 
complex concepts like as BGP and more in depth study of OSPF, EIGRP, etc.  

It's not really surprising that the new ACRC exam has been renamed "Routing 2.0" of 
it's appearing to be solely an IP routing course. 

Just thinking aloud...

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> Emilia Lambros
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> Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: BSCN Material
> 
> 
> I'm sitting in the course as I type and I can vouch that a lot of the ACRC
> stuff has been removed.
> 
> This is SOLELY an IP routing course.  There is nothing about hardware
> involved in this course like there was with ACRC :)
> 
> Em
> 
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> Subject: Re: BSCN Material
> 
> This is tough but as I know now there are no books for the BSCN.  Except
> for those in the course which I have.  But I am using them now and then
> have promissed them to someone else.  If you are in great need of this
> info try the router exam outline from cisco, you can find the material
> covered in multiple places.  Almost all of the material is in the ACRC
> stuff and as a matter of fact a good amount of ACRC stuff has been
> removed.
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> ML
> 
> Swart Douwe wrote:

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Re: BSCN Books?

[Arthur Stewart]

I am using the old ACRC material (Lammle & Cisco Press) and a book on BGP
(Stewart[not me]), since the new BSCN won't be out for 1-3 months yet.

What are others using ?

Arthur Stewart


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>
>   Has anyone suggestions on a good Building Scalable Cisco
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Re: BSCN Books?

[mlawler]

If you use the course outline on Cisco's site, the ACRC book from Sybex
and ACRC (Cisco Press) from Chappel or any combination, you will be
fine.

ML

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>
>Has anyone suggestions on a good Building Scalable Cisco
> Networks book for the updated Cisco exam?
>
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Re: BSCN Exam

[Annlee Hines]

During the Beta period, several people described their experience--the beta
exam reportedly was heavily weighted toward BGP (like 50% or more of the
questions), some OSPF, less EIGRP, and a little of some other things. Try
searching the archives under the topic "Routing Beta" and limit the period
to March (possibly Feb, but I think it all happened in March).

HTH

Annlee

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> main focus of the exam, or perhaps you could help me with the exam
> objectives. I checked on Cisco web site, they have published the
> course outline and I must say that it is shorter than the previous
> ACRC.
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Re: BSCN - ACRC??

[Mark Townley]

At 08:48 25.5.2000, Ingo Peitler wrote:
>Hello group!
>
>My Question:
>
>What is the difference between the Exams ACRC and BSCN? Is it possible to
>take the BSCN -Exam with the Knowledge of the ACRC Course?
>
>Need the Answer very fast

Not really - there is a LOT more BGP in the BSCN exam. Saying that, I did 
pass the beta without knowing there would be BGP in the exam - just pure 
genius I guess ;)

Mark.

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Re: BSCN - ACRC??

[Charlie Hartwell]

I don't know the exact details because Cisco aren't releasing exam
objectives for the BSCN. What I can tell you is that the pass mark
will be lower as it is a newer exam, it is likely to have more BGP
than you can see in the ACRC notes but the flipside is that there's
probably less "legacy" protocol questions - IPX will remain a bit but
Appletalk and SRB should be completely gone.
I'd recommend doing the BSCN - I *just* passed the ACRC a few weeks
ago but I was thinking in terms of trying the BSCN if I failed it.
790 is tough to get.
Good luck.

Cheers

Charlie


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> What is the difference between the Exams ACRC and BSCN? Is it
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> 
> Need the Answer very fast
> 
> Thanks PI


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Re: BSCN Update

[Robert Yee]

I can tell you that I called MacMillan Press (publishing company for
Cisco Press) and they said that the Cisco Press BSCN book has been
delayed until September. Go figure?

"Z. Hassan" wrote:

> Hi everyone.
>
> Has anyone got any update about BSCN ?
> I have searched Amazon and Cisco Press and haven't found anything.
> Is it really true that Cisco is not going to publish the objectives of
> the exam ?
>
> A request to anyone to who has already has taken the exam  "Please
> outline the topic of the exam". I guess that by doing this no one will
> break the non disclosure agreement.
> Can anyone also recommend some books for this exam ?
>
> Any help would be highly appreciated.
>
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Re: bscn objectives

[keith wood]

I have heard that Cisco are no longer publishing exam objectives.  This
certainly appears to be the case as no objectives are listed for any of the
new exams.

I suppose it encourages you to learn it all...

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Re: BSCN objectives

[Ryan LaTorre]

Those objectives at the Global Knowledge web site are straight from the ACRC
course. Although I have not taken the Routing 2.0 exam, I recall the
consensus on Groupstudy was that the test did not resemble the current ACRC
very much at all.

Long story short, I wouldn't trust that outline until Global Knowledge is
ready to start teaching the BSCN - October, last I heard!


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>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/cust/classes/C-TRN-BSCN.html
>
> Lists a brief overview of the subject matter.
>
> http://db.globalknowledge.com/catalog/outline.asp?course=515a&cat=6
>
> Lists an outline of the BSCN course as offered by Global Knowledge.
>
> That should give a basic overview of what to know.  I would prefer to have
some
> solid objectives before burning $100.  If anyone takes the test, can you
please
> lend your thoughts to the accuracy of these two pages.
>
> Ben


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Re: BSCN objectives

[Benjamin Walling]

There is a BSCN course here in Tampa in July.  If there is space, I'll sit in
and see what it is.

Ben







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Those objectives at the Global Knowledge web site are straight from the ACRC
course. Although I have not taken the Routing 2.0 exam, I recall the
consensus on Groupstudy was that the test did not resemble the current ACRC
very much at all.

Long story short, I wouldn't trust that outline until Global Knowledge is
ready to start teaching the BSCN - October, last I heard!


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>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/cust/classes/C-TRN-BSCN.html
>
> Lists a brief overview of the subject matter.
>
> http://db.globalknowledge.com/catalog/outline.asp?course=515a&cat=6
>
> Lists an outline of the BSCN course as offered by Global Knowledge.
>
> That should give a basic overview of what to know.  I would prefer to have
some
> solid objectives before burning $100.  If anyone takes the test, can you
please
> lend your thoughts to the accuracy of these two pages.
>
> Ben





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Re: BSCN Objectives

[Kevin L. Kultgen]

That's what I was wondering.  If it's just OSPF, EIGRP, BGP (and
redistribution) and some advanced theory, that'll make this exam easier than
ACRC.

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(http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bscn.pd
> This link only lists 9 objectives, is this correct or am I missing
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Re: BSCN Question

[Edward Solomon]

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> My question is regarding BSCN exam:
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> I have reviewed the test topics (640-503) on Cisco Career Certificatons &
> Training Web Page, and I realized that the Bridging topics (TB, SRB) are
no
> longer include in this topics.
>
> My question is: Has this subject (bridging) totally exclude from this
test,

Bridging is gone from BSCN. This is NOT a misprint or an omission.

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Re: BSCN passing score

[Neil Schneider]

690

Neil Schneider


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RE: BSCN Study Guide

[MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)]

If you want to add something to your Doyle book, get Halabi's
Internet Routing Architectures and, between the two of them, you
will be set for the Routing 2.0 exam.  If most of the information is old
to you, just read the parts that will clarify your understanding.

Roman

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Please can anyone give a recommendation of which book they think is the best

STUDY guide for the Exami have Jeff doyle`s book which is cool

Many thanks

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Re: BSCN Study Guide

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>best
>STUDY guide for the Exami have Jeff doyle`s book which is cool
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>
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Re: BSCN Study Guide

[David L. Blair]

Go find another list to annoy and steal from!!

-dlb

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Re: BSCN Test (Routing)

[michael champion]

Cisco is apparently using a logical "building-block" approach to their
certification objectives. Assume that if you are taking a CCNP-level exam
that you are already expected to know any information required for the CCNA
(review the CCNA objectives to be sure you are confident in that material).
It would be a violation of the NDA (Confidentiality Agreement) to discuss
what subjects are on the exam other than rehashing the stated objectives or
perhaps a relevant course outline.

Regards,
MLC

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Re: BSCN; Inter vs.Intra

[Jim Erickson]

The prefix "inter" means 'between', and "intra" means 'within' - such as
interstate and intrastate, or internet and intranet.

An _inter_-area route travels between OSPF areas, from one to another - i.e.
from other areas in your OSPF AS into your area - and describes a
destination within your OSPF AS but outside of your particular area.

An _intra_-area route comes from within whatever area you're talking about -
meaning you got it from another router within the same area you're in area
and it describes a destination within that area.

An external route is one that comes from outside of your OSPF AS, such as
from the redistribution of another protocol.


Any routes that come from outside your OSPF AS, are external routes and are
not carried into a stub area. A default route is used as necessary to reach
the external destinations.

In addition to not wanting external routes, a totally stubby area doesn't
want any inter-area routes either. It only carries _intra_-area routes and
default routes out of the area.

To confuse matters further, a not-so-stubby area, IIRC, flips a regular stub
area on its head by accepting external routes but not inter-area routes.

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> I still have a hard time with these two; intra and  inter.
>
> I still get confused.  In the OSPF with multiple areas, it describes how
> stub area carries Intra-area and Inter-area routes but not routes external
> to the AS.
>
> Is intra-area routes, routes with in the area?
> Is inter-area routes, routes outside of the area, but does not include
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RE: BSCN; Inter vs.Intra

[Nguyen_Trang]

Ariel,

I am not sure if you are asking for 
the concept of inter vs intra, if it
is then think of inter and intra in 
this way:

Internet (the Internet outside everybody else website).
Intranet (your inside website).

Hope it help you remember.

Trang

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> Thank all.
> 
> I still have a hard time with these two; intra and  inter.
> 
> I still get confused.  In the OSPF with multiple areas, it 
> describes how
> stub area carries Intra-area and Inter-area routes but not 
> routes external
> to the AS.
> 
> Is intra-area routes, routes with in the area?
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Re: BSCN and NSSA

[dave]

Helena,

The general rule is, any material in the BSCN course is testable. Personally
I wouldn't expect much on Not So Stubby but defintely would expect at least
one question Stub and/or Totally Stubby.

There is a large amount of material covered in BSCN, "Not So Stubby" is only
a small part of it.

That's my 2 cents.

Dave Kemper


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Re: BSCN and NSSA

[Bradley J. Wilson]

Maybe, maybe not.  You need to know them anyway, why not just learn them?
The area's stubby, so LSA 4 & 5 are blocked.  Yet there's an ASBR, so it
lets type 7's through.  No biggie.


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Subject: BSCN and NSSA


Hi,

Do we need to know about Not So Stubby Areas for the BSCN exam/

Thanks
Helena

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Re: BSCN and NSSA

[Brad Nixon]

I think I remember one question on NSSA. Nothing in depth.
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> Do we need to know about Not So Stubby Areas for the BSCN exam/
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> Helena
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Re: BSCN [7:8767]

[Michael L. Williams]

Congrats

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> I have completed BSCN exam this morning. Thanks for all the assistance.
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> thnx
> cs
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Re: BSCN [7:10403]

[Eric F. Varner]

Congrats!!  Nice score too.   I decided to tackle the switching test first
and will be taking my test on Monday. Then on to the routing test.

Best of luck.

-Eric V.

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Subject: BSCN [7:10403]


> Hi Folks,
>
> Passed the BSCN today with a score of 896... fairly straight forward...
> though I found I needed
> most of the allocated time.
>
> Came up against the expected areas... OSPF, EIGRP, BGP .. know these
> well and you will
> ace this test..
>
> I also got the 'select the command from the list' format seems to be
> the norm now
>
> Okay I think Ill tackle the Switching exam next.
>
> Regards, Peter.




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Re: BSCN [7:12555]

[John Neiberger]

The only tip I have for that test is to really understand the basics of
EIGRP, OSPF, and BGP.  If you understand how those operate, that will
get you through a large portion of the test. 

It's a little too late to help with this test, but if you don't already
have them you should buy the following two books:

Routing TCP/IP, Vol I by Jeff Doyle

Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd Edition by Sam Halabi

The first does an excellent job covering IP interior routing protocols
and the second is one of the best introductions to BGP around.  

Good luck!

John

>>> "Chris Headings"  7/16/01 4:57:47 PM >>>
Taking the first step on fri the 20th (Routing Exam)been studying
for a
while now...used the Sybex and Cisco PRessany tips

Thx

Chris
CCNA




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Re: BSCN [7:12555]

[Cezar Fistik]

Hey, be very well prepared. The exam is very hard. It doesn't even compare
with the CCNA. I just passed it (yesterday) and I got 896. Frankly, in the
middle of the exam I was sure that I won't pass it but as you can see I was
wrong. I didn't expec this exam to be so hard. I got lots of OSPF and BGP
questions, many policy routing and some supernettting. That's all I can
remember.

Regards.


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> while now...used the Sybex and Cisco PRessany tips
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>
> Chris
> CCNA




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Re: BSCN Exam Questions

[Edward Solomon]

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All,

> Could someone please tell me the total number of questions, passing score
etc. on the new BSCN test. Also, are there "fill-in-the-blank" type
questions etc. How
> much BGP do you have to know? What about access lists, dial-up networking
etc.

62 questions, 90 minutes, passing score is 690 out of 1000. BGP constitues a
good 30-50% of the questions and you REALLY have to know it properly.
Access-lists and DUN are not required. You have to know VLSM, CIDR, OSPF,
E-IGRP, BGP. That's about it.

Edward Solomon
CCNA, CCSI
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RE: BSCN Beta Results...

[Clayton Dukes]

Title: RE: BSCN Beta Results...





Eric,
It depends more on your experience rather than your study skills.
I feared the FRS exam for quite some time because I heard everyone talk about how difficult it was. In fact, I didn't take any of the exams because I didn't think I was ready (I learn by doing, not studying and forgetting).  I now have my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and CCDP. I got all of them within a short 4 week period and scored quite well on the exams. I didn't really study much, only a few doc's and some practice tests. 

Now, I would say that it wasn't anywhere near as bad as I thought, but I also have Ten years of real-world experience.


The point here is this; Don't assume that the tests are hard just because other people say they are, they may not know as much as you do.


...On to the CCIE (I bet I'll have to study for that one, huh?)



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-=]Subject: BSCN Beta Results...
-=]
-=]
-=]To All,
-=] I've been trying to post this for the past three days, 
-=]so if it is
-=]duplicate for some I apologize in advance.  The results were 
-=]posted last
-=]Friday and I already received my score sheet from Sylvan, so 
-=]to say the
-=]least I was surprised that I passed.  I just wanted to pose 
-=]a question to
-=]the people on this list with this question.  Is it possible 
-=]that the Beta
-=]tests are actually easier than the exam once it goes live?  
-=]I have been
-=]reading that everyone has passed these Beta exams, but I 
-=]have not heard of
-=]one person that has failed.  Is this just a fluke?  I just 
-=]can not believe
-=]that I passed the Remote Access, Switching, and Routing Beta 
-=]exams and
-=]didn't even study or crack a book.  I just planned on taking 
-=]them to see
-=]what the test were going to be like.  I have my CIT 
-=]scheduled for next week
-=](I would of taken it also, but I couldn't get a time), so 
-=]hopefully by the
-=]end of the month I'll be a CCNP.  I've read some posts on 
-=]the CID that
-=]aren't that encouraging, so I think I'll actually buy a book 
-=]and study that.
-=]Let me know what you think about this and maybe shed some 
-=]light on the whole
-=]thing for me.  Thanks for everyone's help!
-=]
-=]Eric L. McMasters, CCNA/CCDA
-=]OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer
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RE: BSCN Beta Results...

[Dollard Morgan]

the beta's are tests actually done to find out wether they are too easy or
too hard, its possible they were too easy. on the other hand, if you have
enough hands on, and know what the answer to those questions are, you dont
need to crack a book for it.
Morgan

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> Date: jeudi 25 mai 2000 15:09
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> Objet:BSCN Beta Results...
> 
> To All,
>   I've been trying to post this for the past three days, so if it is
> duplicate for some I apologize in advance.  The results were posted last
> Friday and I already received my score sheet from Sylvan, so to say the
> least I was surprised that I passed.  I just wanted to pose a question to
> the people on this list with this question.  Is it possible that the Beta
> tests are actually easier than the exam once it goes live?  I have been
> reading that everyone has passed these Beta exams, but I have not heard of
> one person that has failed.  Is this just a fluke?  I just can not believe
> that I passed the Remote Access, Switching, and Routing Beta exams and
> didn't even study or crack a book.  I just planned on taking them to see
> what the test were going to be like.  I have my CIT scheduled for next
> week
> (I would of taken it also, but I couldn't get a time), so hopefully by the
> end of the month I'll be a CCNP.  I've read some posts on the CID that
> aren't that encouraging, so I think I'll actually buy a book and study
> that.
> Let me know what you think about this and maybe shed some light on the
> whole
> thing for me.  Thanks for everyone's help!
> 
> Eric L. McMasters, CCNA/CCDA
> OSSN - Sr. Network Engineer
> 
> Phone:913.859.1986
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Re: BSCN vs. ACRC

[Edward Solomon]

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> Can anybody tell me what is the difference between BSCN and ACRC.Is it
> sufficient to study old prepare material ,such as Todd Lemmel's
> CCNP:Advanced Cisco Router Configuration Study Guide and Cisco's ACRC
book?

BSCN focuses on:
Scalable routing protocols:
OSPF (new - OSPF over FR)
EIGRP (new - Query Scoping, EIGRP over FR)
BGP (all new, two chapters)
Route Redistribution (similar to ACRC)
Policy Routing and Route-Map (all new)
Lots of lab time (12 new labs)

Gone from ACRC are:
Access list (IP and IPX ACL covered in ICND)
Queuing (covered in BCRAN)
ISDN and DDR (covered in ICND and BCRAN)
Bridging

Be aware - be VERY aware - that the BGP content of the new class is quite
significant and substantially weightier than the old ACRC class.

Just a quick plug - IBM Canada is offering BSCN at the end of August. See
the following page for details:

Internet: http://www.can.ibm.com/services/learning/net_internet.html

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RE: BSCN Exact objectives

[Dennis Laganiere]

The Routing (640?503) exam will contain a combination of the following
topics:
 
1) Routing Principles
1.1 List the key information routers need to route data 
1.2 Describe classful and classless routing protocols 
1.3 Compare distance vector and link?state protocol operation 
1.4 Describe the use of the fields in a routing table 
1.5 Given a pre?configured laboratory network, discover the topology,
analyze the routing table, and test connectivity using accepted
troubleshooting techniques

2) Extending IP Addresses
2.1 Given an IP address range, use VLSMs to extend the use of the IP
addresses
2.2 Given a network plan that includes IP addressing, explain if route
summarization is or is not possible
2.3 Configure an IP helper address to manage broadcasts

3) Configuring OSFP in a Single Area
3.1 Explain why OSPF is better than RIP in a large internetwork
3.2 Explain how OSPF discovers, chooses, and maintains routes 
3.3 Explain how OSPF operates in a single area NBMA environment 
3.4 Configure OSPF for proper operation in a single area 
3.5 Verify OSPF operation in a single area 
3.6 Given an addressing scheme and other laboratory parameters, configure a
single?area OSPF environment and verify proper operation (within described
guidelines) of your routers 
3.7 Given an addressing scheme and other laboratory parameters, configure
single?area OSPF in an NBMA environment and verify proper operation (within
described guidelines) of your routers

4) Interconnecting Multiple OSFP Areas
4.1 Describe the issues with interconnecting multiple areas and how OSPF
addresses each 
4.2 Explain the differences between the possible types of areas, routers,
and LSAs 
4.3 Explain how OSPF supports the use of VLSM
4.4 Explain how OSPF supports the use of route summarization in multiple
areas 
4.5 Explain how OSPF operates in a multiple area NBMA environment 
4.6 Configure a multiarea OSPF network 
4.7 Verify OSPF operation in multiple areas 
4.8 Given an addressing scheme and other laboratory parameters, configure a
multiple area OSPF environment and verify proper operation (within described
guidelines) of your routers

5) Configuring EIGRP
5.1 Describe Enhanced IGRP features and operation 
5.2 Explain how EIGRP discovers, chooses, and maintains routes 
5.3 Explain how EIGRP supports the use of VLSM 
5.4 Explain how EIGRP operates in an NBMA environment 
5.5 Explain how EIGRP supports the use of route summarization 
5.6 Describe how EIGRP supports large networks 
5.7 Configure Enhanced IGRP 
5.8 Verify Enhanced IGRP operation 
5.9 Given a set of network requirements, configure an Enhanced IGRP
environment and verify proper operation (within described guidelines) of
your routers 
5.10 Given a set of network requirements, configure Enhanced IGRP in an NBMA
environment and verify proper operation (within described guidelines) of
your routers

6) Configuring Basic Border Gateway Protocol
6.1 Describe BGP features and operation 
6.2 Describe how to connect to another autonomous system using an
alternative to BGP, static routes 
6.3 Explain how BGP policy?based routing functions within an autonomous
system 
6.4 Explain how BGP peering functions 
6.5 Describe BGP communities and peer groups 
6.6 Describe and configure external and internal BGP 
6.7 Describe BGP synchronization 
6.8 Given a set of network requirements, configure a BGP environment and
verify proper operation (within described guidelines) of your routers

7) Implementing BGP in Scalable Networks
7.1 Describe the scalability problems associated with internal BGP
7.2 Explain and configure BGP route reflectors
7.3 Describe and configure policy control in BGP using prefix lists
7.4 Describe methods to connect to multiple ISPs using BGP
7.5 Explain the use of redistribution between BGP and Interior Gateway
Protocols (IGPs)
7.6 Given a set of network requirements, configure a multihomed BGP
environment and verify proper operation (within described guidelines) of
your routers

8) Optimizing Routing Update Operation
8.1 Select and configure the different ways to control routing update
traffic 
8.2 Configure route redistribution in a network that does not have redundant
paths between dissimilar routing processes 
8.3 Configure route redistribution in a network that has redundant paths
between dissimilar routing processes 
8.4 Resolve path selection problems that result in a redistributed network 
8.5 Verify route redistribution 
8.6 Configure policy?based routing using route maps 
8.7 Given a set of network requirements, configure redistribution between
different routing domains and verify proper operation (within described
guidelines) of your routers 
8.8 Given a set of network requirements, configure policy?based routing
within your pod and verify proper operation (within described guidelines) of
your routers

9) Implementing Scalability Features in Your Internetwork
9.1 Given a set of network requirements, configure many of the features
discussed in the course and verify prop

Re: BSCN Exact objectives

[NYG]

It is really annoying when you post a mesage 5 times in one day.  

Here is the PDF on the cisco website:
http://cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bscn.pdf


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Re: BSCN Exact objectives

[Roman]

At 01:08 PM 7/10/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Can ayone tell me where I can find exact obejective for BSCN Exam. I been
>to boson and Cisco I need detaild objective list like the one outlined in
>the BSCN course.
>
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>Amir
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Posting this message ONCE is sufficient - thanks.

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Re: BSCN Exact objectives

[Tim Roberts]

It is not his fault.  The server is sending out multiple copies of some
messages.

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, NYG wrote:

> It is really annoying when you post a mesage 5 times in one day.  
> 
> Here is the PDF on the cisco website:
> http://cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bscn.pdf
> 
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RE: BSCN Exact objectives

[Ole Drews Jensen]

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bscn.pdf

(watch for wordwrap)

Ole

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Hi,
Can ayone tell me where I can find exact obejective for BSCN Exam. I been
to boson and Cisco I need detaild objective list like the one outlined in
the BSCN course.

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RE: BSCN questions --need help

[SAM Meng Wai]

Q.9 Ans should be C:Nonbroadcast multiaccess (NBMA) or
E:Point-to-multipoint
Ans C is fully meshed n/w   and Ans E is for partially meshed
n/w

Q.10Ans C : DRs generated n/w link status and flood within the area.

Q.13Ans C : Agree

Q.27I think Ans C unless you want to change the physical BW

Q.29I think Ans B 

Q.38.   Ans D. The meaning of extended Access List Use in a Distribute List
is different.
The source parameters of the extended access list are used
to indicate the address
of the network whose updates are to be permitted or denied.
The destination parameters
of the extended access list are used to indicate the subnet
mask of that network.

Rgds,
Sam

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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  BSCN questions --need help
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Attached are some of the BSCN questions which are creating lot doubts in
> my mind. I found these questions on one of the web site while preparing
> for BSCN exam. Please help me in understanding them as web site's
> evaluation said that my answers were wrong.
> 
> Please spare some time for these questions.. if possible today...
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> Regards,
> Mahesh
> 
> 
> 
> Here are the questions with my answers :-
> 
> 
> Question 9 of 40.
> Which OSPF mode of operation is not supported over NBMA
> topologies on a Cisco router?
>A. Broadcast
>B. Nonbroadcast point-to-point
>C. Nonbroadcast multi-access
>D. Point-to-point
>E. Point-to-multipoint
> My answer :-  E as it is RPC mode and is not supported in some scenarios
> e.g. IP over ATM. Here I tried with option B as well but
> that was also wrong.
> 
> Question 10 of 40.
> What generates an OSPF type-2 LSA?
>A. ABRs
>B. ASBRs
>C. DRs
>D. BDRs
>E. Each router for each area to which it belongs
> My answer :- C as Type 2  LSA's are Link LSA's.
> 
> Question 13 of 40.
> Given the following configuration:
> 
> outer ospf 20
> network 10.3.3.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
> network 10.4.4.1 0.0.0.0 area 3
> network 10.5.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 3
> area 0 range 10.3.0.0 255.255.0.0
> area 3 range 10.4.4.0 255.255.255.0
> area 3 range 10.5.0.0 255.255.0.0
> 
> Which statement about the difference between the effects of line 6 and
> the effects of line 7 is true?
>A. Line 6 advertises a single subnet into area 3 while line 7
> advertises all subnets into area 3
>B. Line 6 generates a host advertisement while line 7 generates a
> subnet advertisement
>C. Line 6 creates a more specific entry in the routing table of a
> router belonging to area 3 than does line 7
>D. Line 6 advertises a single subnet into area 0 while line 7
> advertises all subnets into area 0
> My answer :-C seems to most logical...
> 
> 
> Question 27 of 40.
> Which of the following best completes the following statement?
> 
> When configuring EIGRP for WAN interfaces, the BANDWIDTH statement is
> _.
>   A. required for Frame Relay only
>B. required for subinterfaces only
>C. not required
>D. only used for multipoint circuits
> My answer :- no clue as very generic question guess was A or D but
> both were wrong. I thought A becasue specially in
> framerelay multipoint networks we put bandwidth but not necessarily only
> on subinterfaces. We may want to use the bandwidth
> command directly on a interface so that we can change the default value
> of T1 (1.544MB).
> 
> Question 29 of 40.
> When using Enhanced IGRP in large scalable networks, why is additional
> EIGRP configuration required?
>A. To be hierarchical
>B. To adjust only WAN bandwidth because EIGRP is preconfigured (Plug
> and Play)
>C. To be monitored by the administrator
>D. To create manually entered summary routes
> My answer :-  I tried A and D but both were wrong. any clue
> 
> Question 37 of 40.
> Which is not a benefit of manual route summarization in EIGRP
> networks?
>A. Smaller routing tables
>B. Boundaries for query packets
>C. More rapid convergence
>D. A route to the null interface
> My answer :-  C becasue if we limit query boundry, rapid concergence
> will automatically happen ??
> 
> Question 38 of 40.
> Which statement about an extended IP access list is true when
> configuring a distribute-list to filter BGP route advertisements on a
> Cisco router?
>A. It cannot be used; only standard IP access lists can be configured
> 
>B. It can be used, to specify the source and destination IP address
> of the routes
>C. It can be used, to specify the network number and subnet mask of
> the routes
>D. It can be used, with a different syntax than the usual use of the
> extended IP access list
> My answer :-  Tried B and D but was wrong ?? no idea ..
> 
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RE: BSCN questions --need help

[Katson PN Yeung]

Q.38 the answer should be:

C. It can be used, to specify the network number and subnet mask of the routes.

When using extended accesslist to do route filtering, the list will permit 
those route(s) which is/are *exactly match* the number of network prefix bit.


At 02:08 PM 12/5/00 +0800, you wrote:

>Q.9 Ans should be C:Nonbroadcast multiaccess (NBMA) or
>E:Point-to-multipoint
> Ans C is fully meshed n/w   and Ans E is for partially meshed
>n/w
>
>Q.10Ans C : DRs generated n/w link status and flood within the area.
>
>Q.13Ans C : Agree
>
>Q.27I think Ans C unless you want to change the physical BW
>
>Q.29I think Ans B
>
>Q.38.   Ans D. The meaning of extended Access List Use in a Distribute List
>is different.
> The source parameters of the extended access list are used
>to indicate the address
> of the network whose updates are to be permitted or denied.
>The destination parameters
> of the extended access list are used to indicate the subnet
>mask of that network.
>
>Rgds,
>Sam
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mahesh Gupta [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 5:54 PM
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:  BSCN questions --need help
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Attached are some of the BSCN questions which are creating lot doubts in
> > my mind. I found these questions on one of the web site while preparing
> > for BSCN exam. Please help me in understanding them as web site's
> > evaluation said that my answers were wrong.
> >
> > Please spare some time for these questions.. if possible today...
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mahesh
> >
> >
> >
> > Here are the questions with my answers :-
> >
> >
> > Question 9 of 40.
> > Which OSPF mode of operation is not supported over NBMA
> > topologies on a Cisco router?
> >A. Broadcast
> >B. Nonbroadcast point-to-point
> >C. Nonbroadcast multi-access
> >D. Point-to-point
> >E. Point-to-multipoint
> > My answer :-  E as it is RPC mode and is not supported in some scenarios
> > e.g. IP over ATM. Here I tried with option B as well but
> > that was also wrong.
> >
> > Question 10 of 40.
> > What generates an OSPF type-2 LSA?
> >A. ABRs
> >B. ASBRs
> >C. DRs
> >D. BDRs
> >E. Each router for each area to which it belongs
> > My answer :- C as Type 2  LSA's are Link LSA's.
> >
> > Question 13 of 40.
> > Given the following configuration:
> >
> > outer ospf 20
> > network 10.3.3.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
> > network 10.4.4.1 0.0.0.0 area 3
> > network 10.5.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 3
> > area 0 range 10.3.0.0 255.255.0.0
> > area 3 range 10.4.4.0 255.255.255.0
> > area 3 range 10.5.0.0 255.255.0.0
> >
> > Which statement about the difference between the effects of line 6 and
> > the effects of line 7 is true?
> >A. Line 6 advertises a single subnet into area 3 while line 7
> > advertises all subnets into area 3
> >B. Line 6 generates a host advertisement while line 7 generates a
> > subnet advertisement
> >C. Line 6 creates a more specific entry in the routing table of a
> > router belonging to area 3 than does line 7
> >D. Line 6 advertises a single subnet into area 0 while line 7
> > advertises all subnets into area 0
> > My answer :-C seems to most logical...
> >
> >
> > Question 27 of 40.
> > Which of the following best completes the following statement?
> >
> > When configuring EIGRP for WAN interfaces, the BANDWIDTH statement is
> > _.
> >   A. required for Frame Relay only
> >B. required for subinterfaces only
> >C. not required
> >D. only used for multipoint circuits
> > My answer :- no clue as very generic question guess was A or D but
> > both were wrong. I thought A becasue specially in
> > framerelay multipoint networks we put bandwidth but not necessarily only
> > on subinterfaces. We may want to use the bandwidth
> > command directly on a interface so that we can change the default value
> > of T1 (1.544MB).
> >
> > Question 29 of 40.
> > When using Enhanced IGRP in large scalable networks, why is additional
> > EIGRP configuration required?
> >A. To be hierarchical
> >B. To adjust only WAN bandwidth because EIGRP is preconfigured (Plug
> > and Play)
> >C. To be monitored by the administrator
> >D. To create manually entered summary routes
> > My answer :-  I tried A and D but both were wrong. any clue
> >
> > Question 37 of 40.
> > Which is not a benefit of manual route summarization in EIGRP
> > networks?
> >A. Smaller routing tables
> >B. Boundaries for query packets
> >C. More rapid convergence
> >D. A route to the null interface
> > My answer :-  C becasue if we limit query boundry, rapid concergence
> > will automatically happen ??
> >
> > Question 38 of 40.
> > Which statement about an extended IP access list is true when
> > configuring a distribute-list to filter BGP route advertisements on a
> > Cisco router?
> >A. It cannot b

Re: BSCN questions --need help

[Tom Keough]

The questions you have quoted came from the Cisco Colt exams...
I have found from extensive checking that many of the questions are scored
wrong at the website.
Tom

--
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AT&T Global Network Solutions
Standard Access Management
Managed Router Service
Tier 2 Technical Support
Tampa, Florida
"Mahesh Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Attached are some of the BSCN questions which are creating lot doubts in
> my mind. I found these questions on one of the web site while preparing
> for BSCN exam. Please help me in understanding them as web site's
> evaluation said that my answers were wrong.
>
> Please spare some time for these questions.. if possible today...
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Regards,
> Mahesh
>
>
>
> Here are the questions with my answers :-
>
>
> Question 9 of 40.
> Which OSPF mode of operation is not supported over NBMA
> topologies on a Cisco router?
>A. Broadcast
>B. Nonbroadcast point-to-point
>C. Nonbroadcast multi-access
>D. Point-to-point
>E. Point-to-multipoint
> My answer :-  E as it is RPC mode and is not supported in some scenarios
> e.g. IP over ATM. Here I tried with option B as well but
> that was also wrong.
>
> Question 10 of 40.
> What generates an OSPF type-2 LSA?
>A. ABRs
>B. ASBRs
>C. DRs
>D. BDRs
>E. Each router for each area to which it belongs
> My answer :- C as Type 2  LSA's are Link LSA's.
>
> Question 13 of 40.
> Given the following configuration:
>
> outer ospf 20
> network 10.3.3.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
> network 10.4.4.1 0.0.0.0 area 3
> network 10.5.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 3
> area 0 range 10.3.0.0 255.255.0.0
> area 3 range 10.4.4.0 255.255.255.0
> area 3 range 10.5.0.0 255.255.0.0
>
> Which statement about the difference between the effects of line 6 and
> the effects of line 7 is true?
>A. Line 6 advertises a single subnet into area 3 while line 7
> advertises all subnets into area 3
>B. Line 6 generates a host advertisement while line 7 generates a
> subnet advertisement
>C. Line 6 creates a more specific entry in the routing table of a
> router belonging to area 3 than does line 7
>D. Line 6 advertises a single subnet into area 0 while line 7
> advertises all subnets into area 0
> My answer :-C seems to most logical...
>
>
> Question 27 of 40.
> Which of the following best completes the following statement?
>
> When configuring EIGRP for WAN interfaces, the BANDWIDTH statement is
> _.
>   A. required for Frame Relay only
>B. required for subinterfaces only
>C. not required
>D. only used for multipoint circuits
> My answer :- no clue as very generic question guess was A or D but
> both were wrong. I thought A becasue specially in
> framerelay multipoint networks we put bandwidth but not necessarily only
> on subinterfaces. We may want to use the bandwidth
> command directly on a interface so that we can change the default value
> of T1 (1.544MB).
>
> Question 29 of 40.
> When using Enhanced IGRP in large scalable networks, why is additional
> EIGRP configuration required?
>A. To be hierarchical
>B. To adjust only WAN bandwidth because EIGRP is preconfigured (Plug
> and Play)
>C. To be monitored by the administrator
>D. To create manually entered summary routes
> My answer :-  I tried A and D but both were wrong. any clue
>
> Question 37 of 40.
> Which is not a benefit of manual route summarization in EIGRP
> networks?
>A. Smaller routing tables
>B. Boundaries for query packets
>C. More rapid convergence
>D. A route to the null interface
> My answer :-  C becasue if we limit query boundry, rapid concergence
> will automatically happen ??
>
> Question 38 of 40.
> Which statement about an extended IP access list is true when
> configuring a distribute-list to filter BGP route advertisements on a
> Cisco router?
>A. It cannot be used; only standard IP access lists can be configured
>
>B. It can be used, to specify the source and destination IP address
> of the routes
>C. It can be used, to specify the network number and subnet mask of
> the routes
>D. It can be used, with a different syntax than the usual use of the
> extended IP access list
> My answer :-  Tried B and D but was wrong ?? no idea ..
>
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http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html
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RE: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!

[Lopez, Robert]

I will be taking the BSCN course through GlobalKnowledge next week.  Will
the class manual suffice as a good study guide.  Are there any other books
that I should read?  I do have access to an old ACRC manual. I'd appreciate
any feedback.  Thanks!!

Robert Lopez
Network Planning
Pfizer

-Original Message-
From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!


After searching the earth and back, I have finally just bought a copy of the

official Cisco BSCN manuals (two in total) and believe me it's the bomb!! 
I'm happy about my purchase cos I am confident that all I need to study for 
the Routing exam is available in one place rather than studying blindly 
using the Cisco website and various bits and pieces
I can hook you up with the person,he sold it to me for £70.00 if you're 
currently preparing for your Routing 2.0 exams you'd know that there aren't 
any books available yet..

Another advantage I found with the manual is that the topics are laid out in

an extremely easy and elementary manner that it makes an enjoyable read. 
Every thing is covered afterall it's Cisco's official training manual, 
although I have been studying with various materials...once I've been
through 
the manual thoroughly am sure I'll ace the exam...

£70.00 is a small price to pay considering the fact that I have been offered

the same thing  for £300.
If you'd like one too email me direct or ring my mobile and I may be able to

get one for you...through my contact
I live in London!!!

Bola
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Re: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!

[Jim Erickson]

If you are studying to pass the test, the class books have all the info in
it that you will need (assuming GK uses the official Cisco material.) If you
really want to _know_ the subject matter, it wouldn't hurt to study other
material as well, such as stuff on the Cisco site.

---JRE---


""Lopez, Robert"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I will be taking the BSCN course through GlobalKnowledge next week.  Will
> the class manual suffice as a good study guide.  Are there any other books
> that I should read?  I do have access to an old ACRC manual. I'd
appreciate
> any feedback.  Thanks!!
>
> Robert Lopez
> Network Planning
> Pfizer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!
>
>
> After searching the earth and back, I have finally just bought a copy of
the
>
> official Cisco BSCN manuals (two in total) and believe me it's the bomb!!
> I'm happy about my purchase cos I am confident that all I need to study
for
> the Routing exam is available in one place rather than studying blindly
> using the Cisco website and various bits and pieces
> I can hook you up with the person,he sold it to me for £70.00 if you're
> currently preparing for your Routing 2.0 exams you'd know that there
aren't
> any books available yet..
>
> Another advantage I found with the manual is that the topics are laid out
in
>
> an extremely easy and elementary manner that it makes an enjoyable read.
> Every thing is covered afterall it's Cisco's official training manual,
> although I have been studying with various materials...once I've been
> through
> the manual thoroughly am sure I'll ace the exam...
>
> £70.00 is a small price to pay considering the fact that I have been
offered
>
> the same thing  for £300.
> If you'd like one too email me direct or ring my mobile and I may be able
to
>
> get one for you...through my contact
> I live in London!!!
>
> Bola
> Mobile Number:0956 812509
>
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RE: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!

[Lopez, Robert]

Jim,

Could you be more specific as to what "stuff" on the cisco site to
concentrate on to increase my knowledge on the subject matter. I truly
appreciate your input.  Thanks!  

Regards,

Robert 

-Original Message-
From: Jim Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 10:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!


If you are studying to pass the test, the class books have all the info in
it that you will need (assuming GK uses the official Cisco material.) If you
really want to _know_ the subject matter, it wouldn't hurt to study other
material as well, such as stuff on the Cisco site.

---JRE---


""Lopez, Robert"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I will be taking the BSCN course through GlobalKnowledge next week.  Will
> the class manual suffice as a good study guide.  Are there any other books
> that I should read?  I do have access to an old ACRC manual. I'd
appreciate
> any feedback.  Thanks!!
>
> Robert Lopez
> Network Planning
> Pfizer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!
>
>
> After searching the earth and back, I have finally just bought a copy of
the
>
> official Cisco BSCN manuals (two in total) and believe me it's the bomb!!
> I'm happy about my purchase cos I am confident that all I need to study
for
> the Routing exam is available in one place rather than studying blindly
> using the Cisco website and various bits and pieces
> I can hook you up with the person,he sold it to me for ?70.00 if you're
> currently preparing for your Routing 2.0 exams you'd know that there
aren't
> any books available yet..
>
> Another advantage I found with the manual is that the topics are laid out
in
>
> an extremely easy and elementary manner that it makes an enjoyable read.
> Every thing is covered afterall it's Cisco's official training manual,
> although I have been studying with various materials...once I've been
> through
> the manual thoroughly am sure I'll ace the exam...
>
> ?70.00 is a small price to pay considering the fact that I have been
offered
>
> the same thing  for ?300.
> If you'd like one too email me direct or ring my mobile and I may be able
to
>
> get one for you...through my contact
> I live in London!!!
>
> Bola
> Mobile Number:0956 812509
>
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Re: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!

[Jim Erickson]

Various aspects of BGP in particular. I don't have the Cisco URLs handy at
the moment, but they have been posted here in the past so check the
archives.

Also, since you are taking the class, be sure to quiz the instructor about
summarization and VLSM enough so you "get it" since the coverage in the
class text is limited (too few examples and review questions). If you're
already good at subnetting, summarization and VLSM will be pretty easy, but
if you just barely "get" subnetting in general, they may be tough (or, they
may help you get subnetting overall - who knows).

Lastly, as I said, everything you need for the test is in the class, but
extra info on EIGRP would be helpful, as would some extra practice with
route filtering.

This info is generally based on the things I saw classmates struggle with
during the class. I guess it depends on how easily the material comes to you
and whether you need extra reinforcement to solidify some of the concepts.
The thing I had the hardest time with was there were three main routing
protocols under discussion, each of which did things slightly differently -
I had a heck of a time keeping each of them straight in my head until I did
some further reading. For example, I don't know why, but it took me forever
to remember that OSPF used a wildcard mask in it network command, that BGP
used an optional 'mask' keyword, and that EIGRP used neither.

---JRE---
For extra credit, which protocol uses the command 'summary-address' and
which uses 'ip summary-address', and why would the 'ip' be important in the
second example and not the first?



""Lopez, Robert"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jim,
>
> Could you be more specific as to what "stuff" on the cisco site to
> concentrate on to increase my knowledge on the subject matter. I truly
> appreciate your input.  Thanks!
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Jim Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 10:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!
>
>
> If you are studying to pass the test, the class books have all the info in
> it that you will need (assuming GK uses the official Cisco material.) If
you
> really want to _know_ the subject matter, it wouldn't hurt to study other
> material as well, such as stuff on the Cisco site.
>
> ---JRE---
>
>
> ""Lopez, Robert"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I will be taking the BSCN course through GlobalKnowledge next week.
Will
> > the class manual suffice as a good study guide.  Are there any other
books
> > that I should read?  I do have access to an old ACRC manual. I'd
> appreciate
> > any feedback.  Thanks!!
> >
> > Robert Lopez
> > Network Planning
> > Pfizer
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wannabe CCIE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:02 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: BSCN MANUAL at LAST!!!
> >
> >
> > After searching the earth and back, I have finally just bought a copy of
> the
> >
> > official Cisco BSCN manuals (two in total) and believe me it's the
bomb!!
> > I'm happy about my purchase cos I am confident that all I need to study
> for
> > the Routing exam is available in one place rather than studying blindly
> > using the Cisco website and various bits and pieces
> > I can hook you up with the person,he sold it to me for ?70.00 if you're
> > currently preparing for your Routing 2.0 exams you'd know that there
> aren't
> > any books available yet..
> >
> > Another advantage I found with the manual is that the topics are laid
out
> in
> >
> > an extremely easy and elementary manner that it makes an enjoyable read.
> > Every thing is covered afterall it's Cisco's official training manual,
> > although I have been studying with various materials...once I've been
> > through
> > the manual thoroughly am sure I'll ace the exam...
> >
> > ?70.00 is a small price to pay considering the fact that I have been
> offered
> >
> > the same thing  for ?300.
> > If you'd like one too email me direct or ring my mobile and I may be
able
> to
> >
> > get one for you...through my contact
> > I live in London!!!
> >
> > Bola
> > Mobile Number:0956 812509
> >
> >
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> > Get Your Private, F

RE: BSCN Routing Protocol Links

[Runnels, Jim (AIT)]

Let me try that again without embedded URL's:

Routing protocol info from Networkers 2000:
http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw00/pres/#2204

BGP overview:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/bgp.htm
BGP case studies:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/bgp-toc.html
Using BGP for Interdomain routing:
http://cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ics/icsbgp4.htm
BGP technical tips:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/18.html

EIGRP intro:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/1.html
EIGRP FAQ:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/eigrpfaq.html
EIGRP technical tips:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/index.shtml
EIGRP white paper:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/103/eigrp-toc.html

OSPF overview:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/ospf.htm
OSPF design guide:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/1.html
OSPF technical tips:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/index.shtml


-Original Message-

Some Cisco web site links for the CCNP 2.0 Routing exam.  

Misc from Networkers:
- http://www.cisco.com/networkers/nw00/pres/#2204
 

BGP:
- Overview
 
- case studies
 
- Using for Interdomain Routing
 
- Technical Tips
 

EIGRP:
- Introduction
  - FAQ
  -
Technical Tips
  - White
Paper  

OSPF:
- Overview
 
- Design Guide 

- Technical Tips
 
   
   
Jim Runnels
CCNA, CCDA
SBC Services

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Re: BSCN: BGP Atomic Aggregate

[Ejay Hire]

It indicates that the route has been summarized (aggregated) and that the 
AS_Path may not contain an entire list of the Transit As's.  More Info 
-->rfc 1771


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Subject: BSCN: BGP Atomic Aggregate
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:12:51 -0700

Does anyone know an easy definition of what the atomic aggregate is and what
it does?  I do know it is set by default unless the "as-set" command is
used.

- Jennifer

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RE: BSCN Exam :( [7:32267]

[Mnatzakanian Serge]

I just passed it this weekend.  My trick was to REALLY know EIGRP and OSPF
since I am most likely to use those in my clients' networks, but then learn
just enough BGP so I could at least eliminate one or two of the answers...

Hopefull the 3rd time will be a charm!  Good luck.

-Serge.

Nuurul Basar Mohd Baki wrote:
> 
> Hai,
> 
> Just take the BSCN Exam for the second time, sadly still fail. 
> Lots off BGP, EIGRP and OSPF.  Spend 60% of the time just to
> figure out BGP
> questions. Heck BSCN is bit tough than I think it was.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 




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Re: BSCN Exam :( [7:32267]

[ko haag]

Try getting the Boson  exams for the BSCN and do better than 90 percent, 
plus read the
exam cram for the BSCN before you take the test.

Good luck.

Ko
Mnatzakanian Serge wrote:

> I just passed it this weekend.  My trick was to REALLY know EIGRP and OSPF
> since I am most likely to use those in my clients' networks, but then learn
> just enough BGP so I could at least eliminate one or two of the answers...
>
> Hopefull the 3rd time will be a charm!  Good luck.
>
> -Serge.
>
> Nuurul Basar Mohd Baki wrote:
> >
> > Hai,
> >
> > Just take the BSCN Exam for the second time, sadly still fail.
> > Lots off BGP, EIGRP and OSPF.  Spend 60% of the time just to
> > figure out BGP
> > questions. Heck BSCN is bit tough than I think it was.
> >
> > Thanks




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