Re: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Neil Schneider

Are you using the correct crossover cables?

Neil


""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
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> Hi Guys
>
> We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
back
> to
> back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
>
> When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> using show int
>
> Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
>
> i had assigned Ip address
> assigned the clock  rate 64000
> no shut
> and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
>
> and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
clock
> rate
>
> can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
>
> Thanking you guys in advance
>
> Regards,
>
> Ravi Varma




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RE: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Daniel Cotts

If each router has a built-in CSU/DSU then you don't need to configure a
clock rate on the serial interface. The CSU/DSU will have a RJ-45 interface.
To connect back-to-back on T-1 cross pins 1&2 with 4&5. On the T-1
Controller interface configure one for internal clocking. The other for
line. This works for two routers.

I'm not sure from your question what the final topology should be. If it is
to be a hub and spoke with 10 routers then you need additional interfaces.
If there are nine leased lines then the hub router needs nine WAN
interfaces. If this is to be a Frame Relay network then you need something
to emulate a Frame Switch.

Do some searches on CCO. You will find exact examples of what you need.
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Ravi Varma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: URGENT ! [7:8061]
> 
> 
> Hi Guys
> 
> We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these 
> ten routers back
> to
> back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
> 
> When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> using show int
> 
> Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
> 
> i had assigned Ip address
> assigned the clock  rate 64000
> no shut
> and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
> 
> and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not 
> assigned the clock
> rate
> 
> can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
> 
> Thanking you guys in advance
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ravi Varma
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RE: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread CiscoG

Even if you accidentally configured the DTE with the Clock Rate command
instead of the DCE, or for that matter entered No Clock Rate command at all,
I don't think you would see Serial0/0 down, down. It almost sounds like your
using the wrong cables???



-Original Message-
From: Ravi Varma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: URGENT ! [7:8061]

Hi Guys

We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers back
to
back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)

When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
using show int

Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn

i had assigned Ip address
assigned the clock  rate 64000
no shut
and default encapsultaion (hdlc)

and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the clock
rate

can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening

Thanking you guys in advance

Regards,

Ravi Varma




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RE: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Kim Edward B

have you used 

bandwidth 64

statement?

Also in bandwidth statment, it is in kilobits instead of bits.

Let me know how it works.



Edward


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From: Neil Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:48 PM
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Subject: Re: URGENT ! [7:8061]


Are you using the correct crossover cables?

Neil


""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
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> Hi Guys
>
> We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
back
> to
> back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
>
> When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> using show int
>
> Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
>
> i had assigned Ip address
> assigned the clock  rate 64000
> no shut
> and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
>
> and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
clock
> rate
>
> can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
>
> Thanking you guys in advance
>
> Regards,
>
> Ravi Varma
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RE: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Also remember only to add the clockrate and bandwidth commands on the router
interfaces acting as DCE ports.

When you do a show int, you can see if it's acting like DCE or DTE.

Hth,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Neil Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: URGENT !!!!! [7:8061]


Are you using the correct crossover cables?

Neil


""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Guys
>
> We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
back
> to
> back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
>
> When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> using show int
>
> Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
>
> i had assigned Ip address
> assigned the clock  rate 64000
> no shut
> and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
>
> and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
clock
> rate
>
> can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
>
> Thanking you guys in advance
>
> Regards,
>
> Ravi Varma




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Re: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

I'll be happy to send you my hourly rate, and any travel/hotel stay is on
you. ;-)

(In other words, please don't abuse the "free tech support" vibe this place
gives off, mmmkay? :-)


- Original Message -
From: Ravi Varma
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:30 PM
Subject: URGENT ! [7:8061]


Hi Guys

We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers back
to
back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)

When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
using show int

Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn

i had assigned Ip address
assigned the clock  rate 64000
no shut
and default encapsultaion (hdlc)

and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the clock
rate

can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening

Thanking you guys in advance

Regards,

Ravi Varma




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Re: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Rajesh Kumar

You can start the troubleshooting from the Physical layer onwards.  Ensure
you use the
correct cables - crossover cable instead of back to back.
Then if that if fine, then check the datalink connections.
Then go higher up the stack, to see if you need to add anything in the
configuration.
If you are using T1 card and u want to use only 56k out of it, you might be
in need of
this configuration :

config t
controller T1 0/0
channel-group 0 timeslots 1
no shut


something like that.
let us know the outcome.
rajesh



CiscoG wrote:

> Even if you accidentally configured the DTE with the Clock Rate command
> instead of the DCE, or for that matter entered No Clock Rate command at
all,
> I don't think you would see Serial0/0 down, down. It almost sounds like
your
> using the wrong cables???
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ravi Varma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: URGENT ! [7:8061]
>
> Hi Guys
>
> We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers back
> to
> back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
>
> When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> using show int
>
> Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
>
> i had assigned Ip address
> assigned the clock  rate 64000
> no shut
> and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
>
> and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the clock
> rate
>
> can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
>
> Thanking you guys in advance
>
> Regards,
>
> Ravi Varma

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Re: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread andyh

Hth?  well, not really

what, exactly, is a bandwidth statement going to achieve??  would you enable
MultiLink-PPP by adding "bandwidth 128000" to a BRI interface? - well
probably in your case

Oh yeh, and use "show controllers" for determining DCE/DTE

do we really have to put up with yet another "how do I connect routers
back-to-back" question.

I despair of this list sometimes

A

Ole Drews Jensen wrote on Monday June 11 at 2001 11:15 PM
> Also remember only to add the clockrate and bandwidth commands on the
router
> interfaces acting as DCE ports.
>
> When you do a show int, you can see if it's acting like DCE or DTE.
>
> Hth,
>
> Ole
>Neil Schneider wrote on Monday, June 11 at 2001 4:48 PM
> Are you using the correct crossover cables?
>
> Neil
>
> ""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi Guys
> >
> > We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> > the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
> back
> > to
> > back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
> >
> > When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> > using show int
> >
> > Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
> >
> > i had assigned Ip address
> > assigned the clock  rate 64000
> > no shut
> > and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
> >
> > and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
> clock
> > rate
> >
> > can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
> >
> > Thanking you guys in advance
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ravi Varma




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Re: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Brian

Connect all the routers together?  Well if the serials are all going to
remote sites, connect the ethers to a switch/lan segment..

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
Success = Preparation + Opportunity


On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, andyh wrote:

> Hth?  well, not really
>
> what, exactly, is a bandwidth statement going to achieve??  would you
enable
> MultiLink-PPP by adding "bandwidth 128000" to a BRI interface? - well
> probably in your case
>
> Oh yeh, and use "show controllers" for determining DCE/DTE
>
> do we really have to put up with yet another "how do I connect routers
> back-to-back" question.
>
> I despair of this list sometimes
>
> A
>
> Ole Drews Jensen wrote on Monday June 11 at 2001 11:15 PM
> > Also remember only to add the clockrate and bandwidth commands on the
> router
> > interfaces acting as DCE ports.
> >
> > When you do a show int, you can see if it's acting like DCE or DTE.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Ole
> >Neil Schneider wrote on Monday, June 11 at 2001 4:48 PM
> > Are you using the correct crossover cables?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > ""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi Guys
> > >
> > > We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> > > the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
> > back
> > > to
> > > back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
> > >
> > > When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> > > using show int
> > >
> > > Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
> > >
> > > i had assigned Ip address
> > > assigned the clock  rate 64000
> > > no shut
> > > and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
> > >
> > > and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
> > clock
> > > rate
> > >
> > > can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
> > >
> > > Thanking you guys in advance
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Ravi Varma




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Re: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Patrick Bass

Wow, if you had only put a couple more exclamation marks in your subject
line I may have been inclined to help you.


""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
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> Hi Guys
>
> We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
back
> to
> back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
>
> When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> using show int
>
> Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
>
> i had assigned Ip address
> assigned the clock  rate 64000
> no shut
> and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
>
> and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
clock
> rate
>
> can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
>
> Thanking you guys in advance
>
> Regards,
>
> Ravi Varma




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RE: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Hth, well, you can't really answer that, since you didn't ask the question
can you???

The bandwitdh statement is NOT necessary, but it is always "nice" to add
while you're there anyway, so your routing protocols can make decisions
based on it.

I don't know what you're trying to say with your "in your case" quote, but
please don't insult me or other people on this list. I can make mistakes too
- I am human in case you were wondering.

What's wrong with "Excuse me sir/madam, but I believe you made a mistake in
your reply to mr/ms".

I do not have my routers setup at this point because I had to move them, so
I can't test it at this moment, but I am fairly sure in my argument that you
can see if your interface is DTE or DCE by doing a show int.

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: andyh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: URGENT ! [7:8061]


Hth?  well, not really

what, exactly, is a bandwidth statement going to achieve??  would you enable
MultiLink-PPP by adding "bandwidth 128000" to a BRI interface? - well
probably in your case

Oh yeh, and use "show controllers" for determining DCE/DTE

do we really have to put up with yet another "how do I connect routers
back-to-back" question.

I despair of this list sometimes

A

Ole Drews Jensen wrote on Monday June 11 at 2001 11:15 PM
> Also remember only to add the clockrate and bandwidth commands on the
router
> interfaces acting as DCE ports.
>
> When you do a show int, you can see if it's acting like DCE or DTE.
>
> Hth,
>
> Ole
>Neil Schneider wrote on Monday, June 11 at 2001 4:48 PM
> Are you using the correct crossover cables?
>
> Neil
>
> ""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi Guys
> >
> > We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> > the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
> back
> > to
> > back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
> >
> > When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> > using show int
> >
> > Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
> >
> > i had assigned Ip address
> > assigned the clock  rate 64000
> > no shut
> > and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
> >
> > and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
> clock
> > rate
> >
> > can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
> >
> > Thanking you guys in advance
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ravi Varma




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RE: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-11 Thread Doug Lockwood

If you know this, please disregard.
T-1 crossovers, 56k and ethernet crossovers are all different.
I beleive its 1&2 to 4&5 for t-1
1&2 to 7&8 for DDS{56k}, CDDI, and ATM 25 and 155.


HTH

Doug


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RE: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-12 Thread Aviva Chan

Ravi,

Please check the T1 controller first and make sure the line is up.
You can find useful guide for T1 troubleshooting in
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/116/index.html.It has a very good flowchart
for T1 troubleshooting.
There some config you should notice:clocking,line-code,framing and also use
cross cable.
Hope this will be helpful!

Cheers,

Aviva Chan
 


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Re: URGENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [7:8061]

2001-06-12 Thread jayant

Yes the bandwidth statement is'nt necessary but you do need a clock
statement while configuring a DCE.

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From: "Ole Drews Jensen" 
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:41 PM
Subject: RE: URGENT !!!!! [7:8061]


> Hth, well, you can't really answer that, since you didn't ask the question
> can you???
>
> The bandwitdh statement is NOT necessary, but it is always "nice" to add
> while you're there anyway, so your routing protocols can make decisions
> based on it.
>
> I don't know what you're trying to say with your "in your case" quote, but
> please don't insult me or other people on this list. I can make mistakes
too
> - I am human in case you were wondering.
>
> What's wrong with "Excuse me sir/madam, but I believe you made a mistake
in
> your reply to mr/ms".
>
> I do not have my routers setup at this point because I had to move them,
so
> I can't test it at this moment, but I am fairly sure in my argument that
you
> can see if your interface is DTE or DCE by doing a show int.
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: andyh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 5:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: URGENT ! [7:8061]
>
>
> Hth?  well, not really
>
> what, exactly, is a bandwidth statement going to achieve??  would you
enable
> MultiLink-PPP by adding "bandwidth 128000" to a BRI interface? - well
> probably in your case
>
> Oh yeh, and use "show controllers" for determining DCE/DTE
>
> do we really have to put up with yet another "how do I connect routers
> back-to-back" question.
>
> I despair of this list sometimes
>
> A
>
> Ole Drews Jensen wrote on Monday June 11 at 2001 11:15 PM
> > Also remember only to add the clockrate and bandwidth commands on the
> router
> > interfaces acting as DCE ports.
> >
> > When you do a show int, you can see if it's acting like DCE or DTE.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Ole
> >Neil Schneider wrote on Monday, June 11 at 2001 4:48 PM
> > Are you using the correct crossover cables?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > ""Ravi Varma""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi Guys
> > >
> > > We have 10 3640 Routers at our place
> > > the probelm i am facing is that i have to connec all these ten routers
> > back
> > > to
> > > back each router have 2 FE and one T1 (dsu/csu)
> > >
> > > When i tried to connect then back to back through the serial line
> > > using show int
> > >
> > > Serial 0/0 down and line protocol DOWn
> > >
> > > i had assigned Ip address
> > > assigned the clock  rate 64000
> > > no shut
> > > and default encapsultaion (hdlc)
> > >
> > > and other i had gone through the same procedure  but not assigned the
> > clock
> > > rate
> > >
> > > can u please help me on that it i have to get it up by evening
> > >
> > > Thanking you guys in advance
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Ravi Varma
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