Recertification

2000-07-14 Thread Kevin Wigle



Group,
 
Was on the Galton site to check if my CCDP kit had 
been mailed (it hasn't) and I noticed that both my CCNA/CCDA certifications now 
have the sentence:
 
Valid through Apr 09 2002 (for the 
CCNA)
 
next to them.
 
My CCDP/CCNP certs don't have that 
yet.
 
All my certs are still ver 1.0 (until I take FRS 
2.0)
 
So, has more information been released about 
re-certification?
 
Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP


Recertification

2000-09-05 Thread keith wood

All,

I have just checked the cisco website and noticed the recertification policy
is now displayed - it wasn't there before I went on my Holiday and there
doesn't seem to be much talk about it on the newsgroup.

What are peoples feelings regarding the 3 year lifespan of the
CCNA/CCDA/CCNP/CCDP, and a 2 year lifespan on the specialisations?

I dont like the fact that the specialisation exam is simply the most current
exam for the specialisation - sounds like a money spinner to me.  I suppose
there is not a lot of choice but to make it this way though.  I am also not
too keen on the idea of having to redo all exams if your current
qualification expires.   Then I guess you don't let your current quals
expire in the first place.

Looks like I am going to have to get my CCIE after all as I am damned if I
am going to put all that effort in again to simply stay at the the same
technical level when for a bit more effort I can go the final mile...  I
will be dusting down the 800 page door-stop and actually reading it.  I do
believe the Holy Grail of networking awaits (thats the CCIE by the way).

Just my thoughts.  Good luck to all in their studies.

Keith


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Recertification

2000-09-05 Thread Craig Johnson

I just got this from my Cisco Channel Account Manager, thought I'd pass it
along.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/146/pressroom/2000/sep00/wwc_090500.htm

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Re: Recertification

2000-07-14 Thread Leonard Ong

Halo,

Why is it took so long for Cisco to mail my CCDP kit, It has been queued a week
but haven't mailed yet in the status, where as other kit are mailed one day 
after
it is queued ?

What should i do ? Since I need the certificate to prove i have passed CID, 
if i give
the copy of score it is not nice :( got only low score.

Thank you

Regards,
Leonard Ong, CCNP R/S, CCDP R/S, CSE, LCP
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Recertification Information

2000-07-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Someone else mentioned it earlier, but I am seeing more information on the
Galton site implying the term of certification, and by implication, the time
of re-certification.

If I read correctly, the term of certification for CCNA, CCDA, and CCNP is
three years.

For example, my completion date for the CCNA was August 5, 1999, and the
expiration date is August 5, 2002
( I actually passed the test on July 13, but I did not get al the paperwork
completed until later )

Interestingly, the specializations appear to be valid for only two years.

For example, I completed my CCNP/Security on April 7, 2000 and the
certification expires on April 7, 2002

I presume Cisco will be making more announcements regarding this as time
goes by.

Chuck

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Re: Recertification

2000-07-17 Thread Vern Stitt




I just checked the certification tracking site. 
My CCNA 1.0 says: 
Valid Through Mar 21, 2003 

This is exactly three years from the day I passed the test. 
Vern Stitt 
AE, ASE, CCNA 1.0, MCSE 4.0 

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  Group,
   
  Was on the Galton site to check if my CCDP kit 
  had been mailed (it hasn't) and I noticed that both my CCNA/CCDA 
  certifications now have the sentence:
   
  Valid through Apr 09 2002 (for the 
  CCNA)
   
  next to them.
   
  My CCDP/CCNP certs don't have that 
  yet.
   
  All my certs are still ver 1.0 (until I take FRS 
  2.0)
   
  So, has more information been released about 
  re-certification?
   
  Kevin Wigle
  CCDP/CCNP


Re: Recertification

2000-09-05 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Anyone else here thinking that buying stock in Prometric would be a really
good idea right about now? :-)


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I just got this from my Cisco Channel Account Manager, thought I'd pass it
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http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/146/pressroom/2000/sep00/wwc_090500.htm



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RE: Recertification

2000-09-05 Thread pbass

After all this I thought I did have Prometric stock already! ;-)

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Anyone else here thinking that buying stock in Prometric would be a really
good idea right about now? :-)


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I just got this from my Cisco Channel Account Manager, thought I'd pass it
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http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/146/pressroom/2000/sep00/wwc_090500.htm



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Cisco Recertification

2000-09-06 Thread Thomas Trygar

http://www.cisco.com/warp/partner/synchronicd/cc/serv/mkt/cert/career/rece_ds.htm

(need partner access for this URL)

Recertification Policy

Cisco Career Certifications at the Associate and Professional levels
(CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP certifications) are valid for three years. CCIE
certifications
and Cisco Specializations are valid for two years. Valid certifications
may be renewed indefinitely or extended. Without timely renewal,
individual career
certifications expire or become inactive. Note: Extension occurs when a
certificate holder advances to the next level.


Recertification—How

To renew certifications, holders must register for-and pass-the
appropriate Cisco recertification exams. Recertification exams are
regularly offered worldwide. Valid
certifications may be renewed indefinitely. For CCIE certificate
holders, renewal requires passing a recertification test and attending
specific sessions at Networkers
conferences.

 For CCNA and CCDA recertifications, the exam is simply the current
version of the appropriate exam.

 The Professional level has different recertification exams for CCNP
and CCDP certifications. Questions for these exams are drawn from the
several exams
 currently in use for each certification.

 For Specializations, the recertification exam is simply the current
version of the appropriate exam. (Network Management has two exams.)


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Recertification [7:16421]

2001-08-17 Thread Wagner, Ron

Folks,
I have not been watching the list lately (been too busy making sure I have a
job).  I will need to CCNP re-certification in the next 12 or so months. 
What
is the information on refresher study on the CCNP re-certification?  Do I get
all the CCNA/CCNP books and read them?  Is there a re-certification outline
that
I can go by?
Thanks
Ron




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Recertification [7:71578]

2003-06-27 Thread Kevin Wigle
Yet another update to the joys of re-certification.

Today I received a "new" certificate for CCNP.

Also a new wallet card.

The certificate doesn't indicate that I've been a CCNP since June 2000.

However, it does say "valid through 6 June 2006".

So, now if you're asked to show proof of certification and you bring your
certificate your prospect employer will see if you're current or not.

Which is interesting because the new certification look-up on the web site
states that Cisco will not show valid dates.

This seems at odds with the new certificates.

If we have to prove current status I would rather have an original
certificate that has a sticker affixed with the new "expiration" date.

So your resume will have to show that you've held certification for "x"
years unless you bring every certificate.

Checking up on the website and I see that a new CCDP certificate is also on
its way.

Oh well, after another few recertifications I'll be able to paper my office
wall.

Kevin Wigle




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RE: Recertification [7:16421]

2001-08-17 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

You don't need the CCNA book, but the rest would come handy should you've
forgotten the stuff.

Questions will be drawn for the BSCN, BCMSN, BCRAN & CIT tests.

See
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-519.html

(Watch for wordwrap)

Hth,

Ole

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Folks,
I have not been watching the list lately (been too busy making sure I have a
job).  I will need to CCNP re-certification in the next 12 or so months. 
What
is the information on refresher study on the CCNP re-certification?  Do I
get
all the CCNA/CCNP books and read them?  Is there a re-certification outline
that
I can go by?
Thanks
Ron




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CCIE Recertification [7:64828]

2003-03-08 Thread Chin Matthias
Hi,
does anybody know where I should post with regards to the above topic?  

I'm particularly interested in the IP Recertification Exam.

Thanks for any tips:)

Regards,
Matthias


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CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-13 Thread Reza
Hello Group,

I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my CCNP by  August 25th.
>From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need to pass 1 exam for
recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this book CCNP Preparation
Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this enough to prepare
you to pass the exam?

Thanks
Reza




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CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-05-31 Thread jeff sicuranza
Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test. The
exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam. This
exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID
version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25,
smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID
design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to be
expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore, like
700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these questions
are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all old
stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s and
700s issues, come on now…..

I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing, Switching
and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my
experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and Cisco
Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too.

I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600,
desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have been in
computer technology since ’84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions
were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny though,
I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic except
CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering 
the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half for
both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert exam,
that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my
dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on
experience rules.

So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old
books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine.

Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat.

Good luck to all…

/JS 



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CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-05-31 Thread jeff sicuranza
Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test. The
exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam. This
exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID
version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25,
smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID
design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to be
expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore, like
700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these questions
are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all old
stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s and
700s issues, come on now..

I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing, Switching
and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my
experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and Cisco
Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too.

I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600,
desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have been in
computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions
were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny though,
I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic except
CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering 
the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half for
both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert exam,
that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my
dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on
experience rules.

So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old
books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine.

Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat.

Good luck to all

/JS




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CCNP recertification [7:41834]

2002-04-18 Thread Beamish, Richard

I have a friend who needs to recertify his CCNP.  Has anyone suggestions
or recommendations for study material vs. the old CCNP 1.0 track

Thanks




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CCIE Recertification [7:18687]

2001-09-05 Thread Wayne & Therese Lawson

Hello - I'm attempting my 1st CCIE recert - I was wondering what
resources people on the forum have used and been successful with.

Thanks! - Wayne
CCIE # 5244




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CCNP Recertification [7:57432]

2002-11-14 Thread boschloo
Hi,

Anybody did the CCNP Recertification exam?  What to focus on. And is IS-IS
included in there?

Gerwin




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CCNP Recertification [7:60972]

2003-01-13 Thread saj
Hi,
Anyone has attempted CCNP recertification exam?How
hard it is?Any idea?
Thanks.
Saj

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CCNP Recertification [7:62038]

2003-01-28 Thread Bolton, Travis D [LTD]
Team,

When you take the recert exam for your CCNP do you have to take it before
your cert expires?  If your cert expires before you take that test then does
that mean you need to retake all 4 exams again?

Travis Bolton 
Web Media
CCNP,CCDA

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value." 
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CCNP Recertification [7:62055]

2003-01-28 Thread neil K.
Anybody passed CCNP recertification test recently. Any suggestions, what to
look for and what books to refer.

Thanks,

neil K.




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CCIE Recertification [7:50372]

2002-08-01 Thread Reza

Hello Group,
I know that CCIE,s have to recertify every 2 years. For recertification do
you have to take the Lab or the Written?

Thanks
Reza




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CCNP Recertification Test.. [7:35330]

2002-02-13 Thread Devinder Singh

Hello all-

Has anyone taken  recertification test for CCNP?? Any experiences on how it
is ??

Thanks
Devinder




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CCNP Recertification Exam [7:63932]

2003-02-26 Thread Masaru Umetsu
I have to take a exam of CCNP Recertification in this year.
If you know the book to study for CCNP Recertification,
please give me an advice.




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Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-11 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I just took the CCDP Recertification exam, exam number 640-529. I got an
878. You need 768 to pass. There were 115 questions and I had extra time.
You get 2 hours.

The test wasn't too bad. The copyright on the test is 2000. That will give
you a clue regarding what's on there.

The test was clearly broken up into 4 sections: remote access, CID, routing,
and switching.

Remote access was pretty easy because I studied for it. 

CID still had the ancient technologies and bizarre wording we have come to
know and love. :-)

Routing was the hardest for me, not because it included any routing
protocols recently added to other tests, but because the questions were
tough. But at least they were well written. I'll have to study OSPF
summarization better for next time (CCNP recert coming up too.)

The switching questions ranged from outrageously easy to tough. I was
shocked at how badly written they were. The author of the switching test
doesn't seem to be a native English speaker. There were missing articles,
and verbs that didn't agree with the subject, and other clues that the
writer wasn't a native English speaker. That's OK, but doesn't Cisco have
editors? Also some of the right (I think!) answers had the logic backwards.
Perhaps if you're thinking in another language and translating, that could
happen.

But I survived and am still a proud CCDP!

Priscilla


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RE: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-13 Thread Andrew Larkins
the one exam combines all the others that are part of the current track. I
would review all the stuff you did before and brush up on any of the newer
items in the exam description etc from CCO

Good luck - mine is up for renewal next year May

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Hello Group,

I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my CCNP by  August 25th.
>From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need to pass 1 exam for
recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this book CCNP Preparation
Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this enough to prepare
you to pass the exam?

Thanks
Reza




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Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-13 Thread Dennis Laganiere
There is only one test, but it covers all the materials from the four CCNP
exams.  You could use whatever study material you used the first time
around, but keep in mind the tests have evolved in the last three years, and
there are some new topics. Here's the link on the Cisco website:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-851.html

I've been studying the various topics, and started putting together a
practice exam for Boson. It should be released in the next week or so, but
please keep in mind it will be in beta for a while, shaking out the bugs and
adding new material.

I hope that helps...

--- Dennis


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Subject: CCNP recertification [7:65292]


> Hello Group,
>
> I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my CCNP by  August
25th.
> From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need to pass 1 exam
for
> recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
> if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this book CCNP
Preparation
> Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this enough to prepare
> you to pass the exam?
>
> Thanks
> Reza




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Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I have CCNP recert next week. 

Does anyone know if IS-IS is on the CCNP recert test? How recently did they
add IS-IS to the routing exam? Has the recert exam been updated that recently?

I didn't encounter IS-IS on the CCDP recert, by the way. The copyright on
the CCDP recert exam is 2000.

I do know a bit about IS-IS, but I'd much rather study BGP which I'm also
weak on but much more interested in. :-)

Dennis is right, in general, that you can't just use your old materials. The
point of the recert is to make sure you're keeping up with new stuff. When I
took CCDP recert, however, it seemed that CID was still ancient and only a
little different from the original CID test I took. Same with Remote Access.
Switching and Routing had clearly been updated from the exams I took 3 years
ago, though they weren't the latest version, I don't think, because I didn't
encounter IS-IS.

Thanks.

Priscilla

Dennis Laganiere wrote:
> 
> There is only one test, but it covers all the materials from
> the four CCNP
> exams.  You could use whatever study material you used the
> first time
> around, but keep in mind the tests have evolved in the last
> three years, and
> there are some new topics. Here's the link on the Cisco website:
> 
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
> s/640-851.html
> 
> I've been studying the various topics, and started putting
> together a
> practice exam for Boson. It should be released in the next week
> or so, but
> please keep in mind it will be in beta for a while, shaking out
> the bugs and
> adding new material.
> 
> I hope that helps...
> 
> --- Dennis
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Reza" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:42 AM
> Subject: CCNP recertification [7:65292]
> 
> 
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my CCNP
> by  August
> 25th.
> > From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need to
> pass 1 exam
> for
> > recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
> > if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this book
> CCNP
> Preparation
> > Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this
> enough to prepare
> > you to pass the exam?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Reza
> 
> 




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Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-14 Thread Larry Letterman
I believe the iS-IS was inserted in the bsci test..
I dont know if its in the CCNP routing test yet..

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:33 AM
  Subject: Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]


  I have CCNP recert next week.

  Does anyone know if IS-IS is on the CCNP recert test? How recently did they
  add IS-IS to the routing exam? Has the recert exam been updated that
recently?

  I didn't encounter IS-IS on the CCDP recert, by the way. The copyright on
  the CCDP recert exam is 2000.

  I do know a bit about IS-IS, but I'd much rather study BGP which I'm also
  weak on but much more interested in. :-)

  Dennis is right, in general, that you can't just use your old materials.
The
  point of the recert is to make sure you're keeping up with new stuff. When
I
  took CCDP recert, however, it seemed that CID was still ancient and only a
  little different from the original CID test I took. Same with Remote
Access.
  Switching and Routing had clearly been updated from the exams I took 3
years
  ago, though they weren't the latest version, I don't think, because I
didn't
  encounter IS-IS.

  Thanks.

  Priscilla

  Dennis Laganiere wrote:
  >
  > There is only one test, but it covers all the materials from
  > the four CCNP
  > exams.  You could use whatever study material you used the
  > first time
  > around, but keep in mind the tests have evolved in the last
  > three years, and
  > there are some new topics. Here's the link on the Cisco website:
  >
  >
  http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exa
m
  > s/640-851.html
  >
  > I've been studying the various topics, and started putting
  > together a
  > practice exam for Boson. It should be released in the next week
  > or so, but
  > please keep in mind it will be in beta for a while, shaking out
  > the bugs and
  > adding new material.
  >
  > I hope that helps...
  >
  > --- Dennis
  >
  >
  > ----- Original Message -
  > From: "Reza"
  > To:
  > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:42 AM
  > Subject: CCNP recertification [7:65292]
  >
  >
  > > Hello Group,
  > >
  > > I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my CCNP
  > by  August
  > 25th.
  > > From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need to
  > pass 1 exam
  > for
  > > recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
  > > if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this book
  > CCNP
  > Preparation
  > > Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this
  > enough to prepare
  > > you to pass the exam?
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > > Reza




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RE: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-14 Thread Dean Penebacker
I am currently studying for the BSCI and the new Cisco study books have
IS-IS.

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Priscilla,

I hate to burst the bubble, but the current BSCI test includes IS-IS.
I'm
not sure about the new foundation exam, since I couldn' find when this
was
updated, but the BSCI exam was updated within the last 6 months, so I'm
assuming you'll find IS-IS on it.

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Access
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""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have CCNP recert next week.
>
> Does anyone know if IS-IS is on the CCNP recert test? How recently did
they
> add IS-IS to the routing exam? Has the recert exam been updated that
recently?
>
> I didn't encounter IS-IS on the CCDP recert, by the way. The copyright
on
> the CCDP recert exam is 2000.
>
> I do know a bit about IS-IS, but I'd much rather study BGP which I'm
also
> weak on but much more interested in. :-)
>
> Dennis is right, in general, that you can't just use your old
materials.
The
> point of the recert is to make sure you're keeping up with new stuff.
When
I
> took CCDP recert, however, it seemed that CID was still ancient and
only a
> little different from the original CID test I took. Same with Remote
Access.
> Switching and Routing had clearly been updated from the exams I took 3
years
> ago, though they weren't the latest version, I don't think, because I
didn't
> encounter IS-IS.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Priscilla
>
> Dennis Laganiere wrote:
> >
> > There is only one test, but it covers all the materials from
> > the four CCNP
> > exams.  You could use whatever study material you used the
> > first time
> > around, but keep in mind the tests have evolved in the last
> > three years, and
> > there are some new topics. Here's the link on the Cisco website:
> >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_
exam
> > s/640-851.html
> >
> > I've been studying the various topics, and started putting
> > together a
> > practice exam for Boson. It should be released in the next week
> > or so, but
> > please keep in mind it will be in beta for a while, shaking out
> > the bugs and
> > adding new material.
> >
> > I hope that helps...
> >
> > --- Dennis
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Reza"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:42 AM
> > Subject: CCNP recertification [7:65292]
> >
> >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my CCNP
> > by  August
> > 25th.
> > > From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need to
> > pass 1 exam
> > for
> > > recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
> > > if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this book
> > CCNP
> > Preparation
> > > Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this
> > enough to prepare
> > > you to pass the exam?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Reza




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Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-14 Thread Richard Deal
Priscilla,

I hate to burst the bubble, but the current BSCI test includes IS-IS. I'm
not sure about the new foundation exam, since I couldn' find when this was
updated, but the BSCI exam was updated within the last 6 months, so I'm
assuming you'll find IS-IS on it.

Cheers!
--

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Exam Cram

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""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have CCNP recert next week.
>
> Does anyone know if IS-IS is on the CCNP recert test? How recently did
they
> add IS-IS to the routing exam? Has the recert exam been updated that
recently?
>
> I didn't encounter IS-IS on the CCDP recert, by the way. The copyright on
> the CCDP recert exam is 2000.
>
> I do know a bit about IS-IS, but I'd much rather study BGP which I'm also
> weak on but much more interested in. :-)
>
> Dennis is right, in general, that you can't just use your old materials.
The
> point of the recert is to make sure you're keeping up with new stuff. When
I
> took CCDP recert, however, it seemed that CID was still ancient and only a
> little different from the original CID test I took. Same with Remote
Access.
> Switching and Routing had clearly been updated from the exams I took 3
years
> ago, though they weren't the latest version, I don't think, because I
didn't
> encounter IS-IS.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Priscilla
>
> Dennis Laganiere wrote:
> >
> > There is only one test, but it covers all the materials from
> > the four CCNP
> > exams.  You could use whatever study material you used the
> > first time
> > around, but keep in mind the tests have evolved in the last
> > three years, and
> > there are some new topics. Here's the link on the Cisco website:
> >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
> > s/640-851.html
> >
> > I've been studying the various topics, and started putting
> > together a
> > practice exam for Boson. It should be released in the next week
> > or so, but
> > please keep in mind it will be in beta for a while, shaking out
> > the bugs and
> > adding new material.
> >
> > I hope that helps...
> >
> > --- Dennis
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Reza"
> > To:
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:42 AM
> > Subject: CCNP recertification [7:65292]
> >
> >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my CCNP
> > by  August
> > 25th.
> > > From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need to
> > pass 1 exam
> > for
> > > recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
> > > if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this book
> > CCNP
> > Preparation
> > > Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this
> > enough to prepare
> > > you to pass the exam?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Reza




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Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-14 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Richard Deal wrote:
> 
> Priscilla,
> 
> I hate to burst the bubble, but the current BSCI test includes
> IS-IS. 

I know that but it doesn't mean IS-IS is on the CCNP recertification exam.
IS-IS didn't seem to be on the CCDP recertification exam which I just took.
It includes questions from BSCI, but didn't seem to include the latest
version of questions. Maybe I just got lucky though. ;-)

Priscilla

> I'm
> not sure about the new foundation exam, since I couldn' find
> when this was
> updated, but the BSCI exam was updated within the last 6
> months, so I'm
> assuming you'll find IS-IS on it.
> 
> Cheers!
> --
> 
> Richard A. Deal
> 
> Visit my home page at http://home.cfl.rr.com/dealgroup/
> 
> Author of Cisco PIX Firewalls, CCNA Secrets Revealed!, CCNP
> Remote Access
> Exam Prep, CCNP Switching Exam Cram, and CCNP Cisco LAN Switch
> Configuration
> Exam Cram
> 
> Cisco Test Prep author for QuizWare, providing the most
> comprehensive Cisco
> exams on the market.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I have CCNP recert next week.
> >
> > Does anyone know if IS-IS is on the CCNP recert test? How
> recently did
> they
> > add IS-IS to the routing exam? Has the recert exam been
> updated that
> recently?
> >
> > I didn't encounter IS-IS on the CCDP recert, by the way. The
> copyright on
> > the CCDP recert exam is 2000.
> >
> > I do know a bit about IS-IS, but I'd much rather study BGP
> which I'm also
> > weak on but much more interested in. :-)
> >
> > Dennis is right, in general, that you can't just use your old
> materials.
> The
> > point of the recert is to make sure you're keeping up with
> new stuff. When
> I
> > took CCDP recert, however, it seemed that CID was still
> ancient and only a
> > little different from the original CID test I took. Same with
> Remote
> Access.
> > Switching and Routing had clearly been updated from the exams
> I took 3
> years
> > ago, though they weren't the latest version, I don't think,
> because I
> didn't
> > encounter IS-IS.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > Dennis Laganiere wrote:
> > >
> > > There is only one test, but it covers all the materials from
> > > the four CCNP
> > > exams.  You could use whatever study material you used the
> > > first time
> > > around, but keep in mind the tests have evolved in the last
> > > three years, and
> > > there are some new topics. Here's the link on the Cisco
> website:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
> > > s/640-851.html
> > >
> > > I've been studying the various topics, and started putting
> > > together a
> > > practice exam for Boson. It should be released in the next
> week
> > > or so, but
> > > please keep in mind it will be in beta for a while, shaking
> out
> > > the bugs and
> > > adding new material.
> > >
> > > I hope that helps...
> > >
> > > --- Dennis
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Reza"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 5:42 AM
> > > Subject: CCNP recertification [7:65292]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello Group,
> > > >
> > > > I just got an email from Cisco that I need to renew my
> CCNP
> > > by  August
> > > 25th.
> > > > From what I was reading at Cisco's  Web site, I only need
> to
> > > pass 1 exam
> > > for
> > > > recertification. Has any body prepare for this recently?
> > > > if you have what material was most helpful. I saw this
> book
> > > CCNP
> > > Preparation
> > > > Library (CCNP Self-Study) has any body used it? is this
> > > enough to prepare
> > > > you to pass the exam?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Reza
> 
> 




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Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-14 Thread David L. Blair
Per Cisco's website:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-851.html

 Questions for the CCNP Recertification exam are drawn from the BSCI,
Switching, Remote Access, and Support exams currently in use for CCNP
certification. Refer to those exams for a description of content likely to
be included. However, other related topics may also appear on any specific
delivery of the exam.
   BSCI (BSCI 640-901)
   Switching (SWTCH 640-604)
   Remote Access (RMTAC 640-605)
   Support (SUPRT 640-606)



Priscilla,

IS-IS is in your future.  


David L. Blair


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Re: CCNP recertification [7:65292]

2003-03-17 Thread David L. Blair
Per Cisco's website:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-851.html

 Questions for the CCNP Recertification exam are drawn from the BSCI,
Switching, Remote Access, and Support exams currently in use for CCNP
certification. Refer to those exams for a description of content likely to
be included. However, other related topics may also appear on any specific
delivery of the exam.
   BSCI (BSCI 640-901)
   Switching (SWTCH 640-604)
   Remote Access (RMTAC 640-605)
   Support (SUPRT 640-606)



Priscilla,

IS-IS is in your future.  


David L. Blair


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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-06 Thread jsicuran
You would think a notice would go out but I guess they missed it. I mean how
many times over the last three years since we obtained our certs did we get
update notices on the program plus reminders that our certs were expiring? I
received lots of "cert" junk mail from Cisco over that period.

What bugged me the most was the DP and the invalid info on CCO in respect to
the exam topics. According to CCO for np and dp recert everything is an
updated exam except for the CID. Oh well at least we have another 3 years
for them to catch up. The newer topics and exam info for the recently
updated np/dp looks really good, more voice and qos and content stuff. I
think these update exam topics plus the added hands on simulation difficulty
level of the exams will help keep the NP/DP somewhat relevant.

Congrats btw "memory lane" you said it lol.

Regards..

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my first attempt was 13 May and my successful attempt was 3 June (not
mentioning what was in between)

"Updated" CCNP recert. the CCNP recert is a new exam - wouldn't a
notice go out about a new exam?

Kevin Wigle

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To: "Kevin Wigle" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]


> Wow, that is weird, your NP exam sounded like the old DP recert exam I
just
> had. One gent on the Cisco forum had the NP recert that was updated,
before
> me and that's what I got, so I am presuming you should get the updated
exam
> as well. How long ago did you take your NP recert exam maybe they just
> switched to the newer stuff in the last couple of weeks.
> That is weird. Memory lane is right.
>
> Good luck..
>
> /JS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:50 PM
> To: jeff sicuranza; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
>
>
> well... my experience is a bit different.
>
> As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a "few" times.
>
> I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not
> just one question.
>
> I think the question pool is huge on this exam.  Consider what it has to
> cover.
>
> "The Road Goes Ever On" (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down
> memory lane.
> I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated.
>
> Of course, I probably shouldn't assume...
>
> Kevin Wigle
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "jeff sicuranza" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
>
>
> > There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one
> of
> > old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like
> that
> > on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer
> exams
> > with ios simulation for hands on testing.
> >
> > It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.
> >
> > Good luck..




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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-06 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
mailsub1 wrote:
> 
> Priscilla wrote:
> 
> >One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of
> questions for
> >CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and
> StrataCom
> >though! Oh boy! :-)
> 
> I had quite a few BGP questions in my CCDP-recert exam on
> Monday.

Oops. Yes, you're right. CCDP does cover BGP. It was IS-IS that I was
thinking of. It doesn't cover that.

Also, it doesn't cover BGP to the extent that it is covered in CCNP. CCDP
seems to be drawing from a couple generations back of Routing questions.

Priscilla


> 
> I am really happy that I am now certified for another 3 years
> and can,
> according to Cisco, design a high performance SNA/Appletalk/IPX
> token-ring network, probably using only ATM switches from
> StrataCom and
> 700 and 1600 series routers ;)
> 
> Mark.
> 
> 




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CCNP recertification question [7:69943]

2003-06-01 Thread news.groupstudy.com
If I pass the CCIE qualifier does that recertify my CCNP and CCNA?




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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-03 Thread mailsub1
Congratulations! I just passed today (first time VERY lucky ;), and I
have to agree that it is a crazy exam. A couple of the questions were so
badly worded that I didn't understand them. 

I just thought that I'd add a few extra pointers for the unlucky ones
who still have to take the exam. There are some newer questions (e.g.
quite a few on BGP), although nothing on IS-IS. However, a lot of the
questions are very old - for example when did you last hear of Stratacom
or configured a 700 series router (or for that matter used appletalk)!

This was probably the worst Cisco exam EVER, and I just hope it is
better in 3 years time.

Now I just have to take CSI for my CCSP before my summer vacation.

Good luck!

Mark.

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jeff sicuranza
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Subject: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test.
The
exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam.
This
exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID
version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25,
smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID
design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to
be
expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore,
like
700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these
questions
are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all
old
stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s
and
700s issues, come on now..

I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing,
Switching
and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my
experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and
Cisco
Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too.

I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600,
desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have
been in
computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions
were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny
though,
I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic
except
CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering

the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half
for
both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert
exam,
that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my
dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on
experience rules.

So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old
books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine.

Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat.

Good luck to all

/JS




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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-03 Thread jsicuran
Yes, the CCDP recert exam is old and messed up. The CCNP recert exam was
updated for content over the last three years so it has bgp, hands on
simulation and ISIS. IT will get better and tougher if the CCNP recert is
any hint. Look at the current changes to the DP program. It will be more
difficult if you have to recert in three years...

Congrats also, good luck on the CSI..

/JS

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Congratulations! I just passed today (first time VERY lucky ;), and I
have to agree that it is a crazy exam. A couple of the questions were so
badly worded that I didn't understand them.

I just thought that I'd add a few extra pointers for the unlucky ones
who still have to take the exam. There are some newer questions (e.g.
quite a few on BGP), although nothing on IS-IS. However, a lot of the
questions are very old - for example when did you last hear of Stratacom
or configured a 700 series router (or for that matter used appletalk)!

This was probably the worst Cisco exam EVER, and I just hope it is
better in 3 years time.

Now I just have to take CSI for my CCSP before my summer vacation.

Good luck!

Mark.

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jeff sicuranza
Sent: 31. mam 2003 06:09
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Subject: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test.
The
exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam.
This
exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID
version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25,
smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID
design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to
be
expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore,
like
700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these
questions
are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all
old
stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s
and
700s issues, come on now..

I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing,
Switching
and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my
experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and
Cisco
Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too.

I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600,
desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have
been in
computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions
were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny
though,
I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic
except
CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering

the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half
for
both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert
exam,
that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my
dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on
experience rules.

So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old
books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine.

Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat.

Good luck to all

/JS




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Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-03 Thread Kevin Wigle
There are also Appletalk and 700 routers on the CCNP re-cert.

I decided to review the 700 documentation on CCO.

The 700 is not listed on the router list.

Fortunately searching on the 700 brought me to the right docs, although most
of the links say, end of sale, etc.

Kevin Wigle

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> Congratulations! I just passed today (first time VERY lucky ;), and I
> have to agree that it is a crazy exam. A couple of the questions were so
> badly worded that I didn't understand them.
>
> I just thought that I'd add a few extra pointers for the unlucky ones
> who still have to take the exam. There are some newer questions (e.g.
> quite a few on BGP), although nothing on IS-IS. However, a lot of the
> questions are very old - for example when did you last hear of Stratacom
> or configured a 700 series router (or for that matter used appletalk)!
>
> This was probably the worst Cisco exam EVER, and I just hope it is
> better in 3 years time.
>
> Now I just have to take CSI for my CCSP before my summer vacation.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Mark.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> jeff sicuranza
> Sent: 31. mam 2003 06:09
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
>
> Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test.
> The
> exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam.
> This
> exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID
> version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25,
> smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID
> design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to
> be
> expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore,
> like
> 700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these
> questions
> are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all
> old
> stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s
> and
> 700s issues, come on now..
>
> I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing,
> Switching
> and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my
> experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and
> Cisco
> Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too.
>
> I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600,
> desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have
> been in
> computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions
> were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny
> though,
> I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic
> except
> CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering
>
> the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half
> for
> both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert
> exam,
> that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my
> dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on
> experience rules.
>
> So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old
> books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine.
>
> Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat.
>
> Good luck to all
>
> /JS




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Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-04 Thread jeff sicuranza
There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one of
old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like that
on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer exams
with ios simulation for hands on testing.

It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.

Good luck..


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Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-04 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
jeff sicuranza wrote:
> 
> There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably
> from one of old questions from the routing pool. 

I think the AppleTalk questions (if you get any) in the CCNP recert are from
the Support exam which hasn't been updated much.

> As for the 700
> series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam
> is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for
> hands on testing.
> 
> It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.

Indeed, the CCDP recert exam is ancient, making you wonder what the point
is. It can't be to show that the candidate is keeping up with new stuff!?
;-) I almost wonder if it's some sort of mistake.

CCNP isn't quite so ancient, except for the BCRAN part which is still
ancient. I did get some 700 questions. But Routing and Switching were
updated and did give Cisco proof that I was keeping up with new Cisco
requirements. Routing included BGP and IS-IS, for example, which weren't on
the test 3 years ago.

One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for CCDP,
but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh
boy! :-)

Priscilla


> 
> Good luck..




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Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-04 Thread Kevin Wigle
well... my experience is a bit different.

As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a "few" times.

I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not
just one question.

I think the question pool is huge on this exam.  Consider what it has to
cover.

"The Road Goes Ever On" (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down
memory lane.
I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated.

Of course, I probably shouldn't assume...

Kevin Wigle


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]


> There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one
of
> old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like
that
> on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer
exams
> with ios simulation for hands on testing.
>
> It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.
>
> Good luck..




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Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-04 Thread The Road Goes Ever On
""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> jeff sicuranza wrote:
> >
> > There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably
> > from one of old questions from the routing pool.
>
> I think the AppleTalk questions (if you get any) in the CCNP recert are
from
> the Support exam which hasn't been updated much.


What's to update in troubleshooting? There are only so many things that
could be wrong, and only so many places those wrong things can occur, no
matter what the protocol or topology.

The good news is that test takers apparently are not required to know how to
read sniffer traces ;->


>
> > As for the 700
> > series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam
> > is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for
> > hands on testing.
> >
> > It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.
>
> Indeed, the CCDP recert exam is ancient, making you wonder what the point
> is. It can't be to show that the candidate is keeping up with new stuff!?
> ;-) I almost wonder if it's some sort of mistake.


vision, policy, archtecture. definitely not the stuff of certification
construction.

>
> CCNP isn't quite so ancient, except for the BCRAN part which is still
> ancient. I did get some 700 questions. But Routing and Switching were
> updated and did give Cisco proof that I was keeping up with new Cisco
> requirements. Routing included BGP and IS-IS, for example, which weren't
on
> the test 3 years ago.
>
> One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for
CCDP,
> but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh
> boy! :-)
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> >
> > Good luck..




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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-04 Thread mailsub1
Priscilla wrote:

>One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for
>CCDP, but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom
>though! Oh boy! :-)

I had quite a few BGP questions in my CCDP-recert exam on Monday.

I am really happy that I am now certified for another 3 years and can,
according to Cisco, design a high performance SNA/Appletalk/IPX
token-ring network, probably using only ATM switches from StrataCom and
700 and 1600 series routers ;)

Mark.




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RE: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-05 Thread jsicuran
Wow, that is weird, your NP exam sounded like the old DP recert exam I just
had. One gent on the Cisco forum had the NP recert that was updated, before
me and that's what I got, so I am presuming you should get the updated exam
as well. How long ago did you take your NP recert exam maybe they just
switched to the newer stuff in the last couple of weeks.
That is weird. Memory lane is right.

Good luck..

/JS

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well... my experience is a bit different.

As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a "few" times.

I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not
just one question.

I think the question pool is huge on this exam.  Consider what it has to
cover.

"The Road Goes Ever On" (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down
memory lane.
I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated.

Of course, I probably shouldn't assume...

Kevin Wigle


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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]


> There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one
of
> old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like
that
> on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer
exams
> with ios simulation for hands on testing.
>
> It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.
>
> Good luck..




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Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-05 Thread Kevin Wigle
my first attempt was 13 May and my successful attempt was 3 June (not
mentioning what was in between)

"Updated" CCNP recert. the CCNP recert is a new exam - wouldn't a
notice go out about a new exam?

Kevin Wigle

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To: "Kevin Wigle" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:57 AM
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> Wow, that is weird, your NP exam sounded like the old DP recert exam I
just
> had. One gent on the Cisco forum had the NP recert that was updated,
before
> me and that's what I got, so I am presuming you should get the updated
exam
> as well. How long ago did you take your NP recert exam maybe they just
> switched to the newer stuff in the last couple of weeks.
> That is weird. Memory lane is right.
>
> Good luck..
>
> /JS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 7:50 PM
> To: jeff sicuranza; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
>
>
> well... my experience is a bit different.
>
> As I said in a previous post I've taken this exam a "few" times.
>
> I encountered both Appletalk and the 700 Router on the NP recert and not
> just one question.
>
> I think the question pool is huge on this exam.  Consider what it has to
> cover.
>
> "The Road Goes Ever On" (Chuck) just posted that he had a great walk down
> memory lane.
> I would assume he was hinting that the topics he saw were a bit dated.
>
> Of course, I probably shouldn't assume...
>
> Kevin Wigle
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "jeff sicuranza" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 10:27 AM
> Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]
>
>
> > There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably from one
> of
> > old questions from the routing pool. As for the 700 series nothing like
> that
> > on the NP recert. The NP recert exam is one of the more updated newer
> exams
> > with ios simulation for hands on testing.
> >
> > It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.
> >
> > Good luck..




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Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]

2003-06-13 Thread Kevin Wigle
Just to update this thread with my CCDP recert story.

Today I surprisingly passed the exam.  I scheduled the exam as a "recce" (to
just see it) and guage where I was for further study.

I had gone once through the Boson CCDP practice but I felt I needed to see
the real thing since I had problems with the CCNP recert.

So what I'm saying is that without much specific CCDP study, I passed with
829, pass is 768.  With more study a higher mark probably could have been
had - but, it's over now!

Most of the previous comments on the exam are accurate except Priscilla
mentioned that there wasn't any BGP.  I had at least 6 BGP questions - which
wasn't a problem with my study from the CCNP recert.

The material is OLD.  Many design ideas would not be considered today.

Anyway, I'm good for both CCNP/CCDP for another 3 years.

Kevin Wigle

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: CCDP Recertification [7:69911]


> jeff sicuranza wrote:
> >
> > There was only one appletalk quesiton on the NP recert probably
> > from one of old questions from the routing pool.
>
> I think the AppleTalk questions (if you get any) in the CCNP recert are
from
> the Support exam which hasn't been updated much.
>
> > As for the 700
> > series nothing like that on the NP recert. The NP recert exam
> > is one of the more updated newer exams with ios simulation for
> > hands on testing.
> >
> > It is the DP recert exam that has all the old junk.
>
> Indeed, the CCDP recert exam is ancient, making you wonder what the point
> is. It can't be to show that the candidate is keeping up with new stuff!?
> ;-) I almost wonder if it's some sort of mistake.
>
> CCNP isn't quite so ancient, except for the BCRAN part which is still
> ancient. I did get some 700 questions. But Routing and Switching were
> updated and did give Cisco proof that I was keeping up with new Cisco
> requirements. Routing included BGP and IS-IS, for example, which weren't
on
> the test 3 years ago.
>
> One would think it would be easy to use the same pool of questions for
CCDP,
> but they don't. No BGP or IS-IS for example. SNA and StrataCom though! Oh
> boy! :-)
>
> Priscilla
>
>
> >
> > Good luck..




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Re: CCIE Recertification [7:18687]

2001-09-05 Thread David L. Blair

You might give John Swartz at Boson a call.  He passed his recert about a
year ago.


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> resources people on the forum have used and been successful with.
>
> Thanks! - Wayne
> CCIE # 5244




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Re: CCIE Recertification [7:18687]

2001-09-06 Thread MADMAN

the  CCIE Professional Developement Routing TCP/IP Vol 1 an 2 are
pretty good though I missed passing by 4 points the first round :(  

  Dave

Wayne & Therese Lawson wrote:
> 
> Hello - I'm attempting my 1st CCIE recert - I was wondering what
> resources people on the forum have used and been successful with.
> 
> Thanks! - Wayne
> CCIE # 5244
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RE: CCIE Recertification [7:18687]

2001-09-06 Thread Bill Carter

I used Large-Scale IP Network Solutions, Raza and Turner
ISBN:1-57870-084-1

I think the CCIE Professional Development series books are good Recert Study
tools.

Be warned, the recerts are not easy tests.

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Hello - I'm attempting my 1st CCIE recert - I was wondering what
resources people on the forum have used and been successful with.

Thanks! - Wayne
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RE: CCIE Recertification [7:18687]

2001-09-06 Thread Westmoreland, Alexis

For the ip exam, I have heard that you can use the Doyle's book on
TCP/IP and a reference/book for multicast.

Thanks

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Hello - I'm attempting my 1st CCIE recert - I was wondering what
resources people on the forum have used and been successful with.

Thanks! - Wayne
CCIE # 5244




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Re: CCNP Recertification [7:57432]

2002-11-14 Thread nettable_walker
I took the routing exam for the CCIP  (I already have the CCNP) recently.  I
would recommend you know how to set up OSPF, RIP, IS-IS, & BGP before taking
ANY new Cisco exam.  It's not like before.

FYI --- you do not have to know how to configure the new Microsoft protocol,
ISNT-ISNT



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> Hi,
>
> Anybody did the CCNP Recertification exam?  What to focus on. And is IS-IS
> included in there?
>
> Gerwin




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CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

2002-12-04 Thread jeff sicuranza
Folks, I just received my 6 mos. heads up for my CCNP. My CCNP expires in
May of 03 and my DP in June of 03. My second and hopefully last CCIE lab
date is on for 7/30 but can be pushed out into September.

Are there any re-certification books that specifically cover the recert.
exam? Or, is the exam just a rehash of the same stuff with a few newer items
in it?

Has anyone taken these re-certifications exams yet? Any tips.. Greatly
appreciated...

With work and the CCIE stuff should I even bother to re-certify???

Regards...

/JS



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Recertification Information - exams [7:60538]

2003-01-07 Thread The Long and Winding Road
just an FYI, since I may have to recertify this year and so looked it up

the following link will get you to a page on CCO that tells you what exam
you need for recertification. there is also a link to download some practice
tests.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/exam_list.ht
m

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RE: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]

2003-01-25 Thread Peter Marsh
saj,

I just took it, it was really hard.  I screwed up on the scenario, but
didn't miss by too much.  I will study some more and get it the next time.

I would rather one big test at once, and get it over with, rather than
taking them all over again.

Good luck!


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RE: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]

2003-01-26 Thread Helena
Can someone please direct me to the website that says thatyou can take all 
those tests again, instead of just doing the recertification exam please?

Thanks
Helena

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Peter Marsh wrote:

> saj,
> 
> I just took it, it was really hard.  I screwed up on the scenario, but
> didn't miss by too much.  I will study some more and get it the next time.
> 
> I would rather one big test at once, and get it over with, rather than
> taking them all over again.
> 
> Good luck!




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Re: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]

2003-01-26 Thread Amazing
actually, if you move to a higher level cert that will also renew your
CCNx/CCDx

""Helena""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Can someone please direct me to the website that says thatyou can take all
> those tests again, instead of just doing the recertification exam please?
>
> Thanks
> Helena
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Peter Marsh wrote:
>
> > saj,
> >
> > I just took it, it was really hard.  I screwed up on the scenario, but
> > didn't miss by too much.  I will study some more and get it the next
time.
> >
> > I would rather one big test at once, and get it over with, rather than
> > taking them all over again.
> >
> > Good luck!




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Re: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]

2003-01-26 Thread Dennis Laganiere
s/640-851.html

and

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-529.html

Watch the wrap...

I hope that helps...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: "Helena" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: RE: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]


> Can someone please direct me to the website that says thatyou can take all
> those tests again, instead of just doing the recertification exam please?
>
> Thanks
> Helena
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Peter Marsh wrote:
>
> > saj,
> >
> > I just took it, it was really hard.  I screwed up on the scenario, but
> > didn't miss by too much.  I will study some more and get it the next
time.
> >
> > I would rather one big test at once, and get it over with, rather than
> > taking them all over again.
> >
> > Good luck!




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Re: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]

2003-01-26 Thread Dennis Laganiere
For some reason my message seemed to get the first line chopped off.

Helena - you'll find the entire links listed below (watch the wrap)...

--- Dennis

- Original Message -
From: "Dennis Laganiere" 
To: "Helena" ; 
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]


>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
> s/640-851.html
>
> and
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
> s/640-529.html
>
> Watch the wrap...
>
> I hope that helps...
>
> --- Dennis
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Helena" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 3:13 PM
> Subject: RE: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]
>
>
> > Can someone please direct me to the website that says thatyou can take
all
> > those tests again, instead of just doing the recertification exam
please?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Helena
> >
> > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Peter Marsh wrote:
> >
> > > saj,
> > >
> > > I just took it, it was really hard.  I screwed up on the scenario, but
> > > didn't miss by too much.  I will study some more and get it the next
> time.
> > >
> > > I would rather one big test at once, and get it over with, rather than
> > > taking them all over again.
> > >
> > > Good luck!




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Re: CCNP Recertification [7:60972]

2003-01-26 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Amazing""  wrote in message
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> actually, if you move to a higher level cert that will also renew your
> CCNx/CCDx
>


want to clarify this? Obtaining the CCIE does NOT automatically confer CCXP
status.

What other cert is "higher" than an NP or DP?


> ""Helena""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Can someone please direct me to the website that says thatyou can take
all
> > those tests again, instead of just doing the recertification exam
please?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Helena
> >
> > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Peter Marsh wrote:
> >
> > > saj,
> > >
> > > I just took it, it was really hard.  I screwed up on the scenario, but
> > > didn't miss by too much.  I will study some more and get it the next
> time.
> > >
> > > I would rather one big test at once, and get it over with, rather than
> > > taking them all over again.
> > >
> > > Good luck!




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RE: CCNP Recertification [7:62038]

2003-01-28 Thread Moffett, Ryan
Yes, and I just reinforced my knowledge of this having just my CCNP expire
this past Friday without taking the recert exam.   Even though I have my
CCDP, I have to take all CCNP tests over again.

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Team,

When you take the recert exam for your CCNP do you have to take it before
your cert expires?  If your cert expires before you take that test then does
that mean you need to retake all 4 exams again?

Travis Bolton 
Web Media
CCNP,CCDA

"Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of
value." 
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Re: CCIE Recertification [7:50372]

2002-08-01 Thread Henry D.

Just the written, thank God !

:-)

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> I know that CCIE,s have to recertify every 2 years. For recertification do
> you have to take the Lab or the Written?
>
> Thanks
> Reza




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Re: CCIE Recertification [7:50372]

2002-08-01 Thread Reza

Oh, good. I though it was the lab.


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> Hello Group,
> I know that CCIE,s have to recertify every 2 years. For recertification do
> you have to take the Lab or the Written?
>
> Thanks
> Reza




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RE: CCIE Recertification [7:50372]

2002-08-01 Thread Juan Blanco

Reza,
The written is all you have to take to keep your CCIE's status valid.
Juan B

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Hello Group,
I know that CCIE,s have to recertify every 2 years. For recertification do
you have to take the Lab or the Written?

Thanks
Reza




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Re: CCIE Recertification [7:50372]

2002-08-01 Thread Peter van Oene

one of various recert, written exams.

At 01:44 PM 8/1/2002 +, Reza wrote:
>Hello Group,
>I know that CCIE,s have to recertify every 2 years. For recertification do
>you have to take the Lab or the Written?
>
>Thanks
>Reza




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Recertification Information from Cisco's web site.

2000-09-14 Thread David L. Blair



I found this on Cisco's web site.  This web 
page has all the details for recertification for all of Cisco's current 
certification programs.
 
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new.html
 
 
"Through Complexity there is 
Simplicity, 
Through Simplicity there is Complexity"
 
David L. Blair - CCNA, MCSE, CBE, A+, 
3Wizard
 
 


CCIE - IP Recertification Resources [7:10420]

2001-06-29 Thread Bob Bracalente

Does anyone know of any good CCIE recerficiation resources that are
available?  I'm surprised that no training companies have picked up on this
yet.

Thanks,

Bob


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CCNP Recertification (640-519) [7:34621]

2002-02-06 Thread Bond, Jeffrey T

Has anyone on the list taken the CCNP recertification test (640-519)?  If
so, what did you use as study material; Boson, Sybex, Cisco Press, etc??  


thanks in advance

Jeff




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RE: CCNP Recertification Test.. [7:35330]

2002-02-13 Thread Johns, John A.

Was not bad, did it at the last Networkers in Chicago...  I think I had an
865, passing was 757...

Although I was working on the CCIE Lab at the time, and the Written was
somewhat fresh...

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System Engineer
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Hello all-

Has anyone taken  recertification test for CCNP?? Any experiences on how it
is ??

Thanks
Devinder




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RE: Recertification -> 1.0 certs valid until???

2000-09-06 Thread Laurent Lange

Hi guys,

After reading the public announcement, it's still not clear for me until 
when the 1.0 certifications will be valid (i.e. until when a CCNP or CCDP 
1.0 will be taken into account for the silver and gold partners). 1.0 certs 
were supposed to  expire sooner than 2.0, weren't they?

Thanks for any advise

Laurent


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>After all this I thought I did have Prometric stock already! ;-)
>
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>
>
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>good idea right about now? :-)
>
>
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>
>
>I just got this from my Cisco Channel Account Manager, thought I'd pass it
>along.
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/146/pressroom/2000/sep00/wwc_090500.htm
>
>
>
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Re: Recertification -> 1.0 certs valid until???

2000-09-06 Thread Casey Fahey
Check out www.galton.com/~cisco .  It will tell you EXACTLY when your certs will expire.   Well almost...  It has not updated my CCNA expiration to reflect my CCNP...  Oh well...   HTH,   Casey   - Original Message - From: Laurent Lange Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Recertification -> 1.0 certs valid until??? Hi guys,After reading the public announcement, it's still not clear for me untilwhen the 1.0 certifications will be valid (i.e. until when a CCNP or CCDP1.0 will be taken into account for the silver and gold partners). 1.0 certswere supposed to  expire sooner than 2.0, weren't they?Thanks for any adviseLaurent>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: Recertification>Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 16:48:32 -0500>>After all this I thought I did have Prometric stock already! ;-)>>-Original Message->From: Bradley J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 4:20 PM>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: Recertification>Importance: Low>>>Anyone else here thinking that buying stock in Prometric would be a really>good idea right about now? :-)>>>- Original Message ->From: Craig Johnson>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 4:42 PM>Subject: Recertification>>>I just got this from my Cisco Channel Account Manager, thought I'd pass it>along.>>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/146/pressroom/2000/sep00/wwc_090500.htm>>>>___>UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html>FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com>Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>___>UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html>FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com>Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]_Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.Share information about yourself, create your own public profile athttp://profiles.msn.com.___UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.htmlFAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.comReport misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___Get a sneak preview of the new MSN: http://preview.msn.com/


RE: CCNP Recertification Exam [7:63932]

2003-02-27 Thread Georgescu, Aurelian
There is no single book that covers all.

The official Cisco response is that you have to know all the material from
all four exams that make out the CCNP certification:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-604.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-605.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-503.html
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-025.html

Aurelian 

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I have to take a exam of CCNP Recertification in this year.
If you know the book to study for CCNP Recertification,
please give me an advice.




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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-11 Thread Vicuna, Mark
good stuff Priscilla :-)

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Subject: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]


I just took the CCDP Recertification exam, exam number 640-529. I got an
878. You need 768 to pass. There were 115 questions and I had extra time.
You get 2 hours.

The test wasn't too bad. The copyright on the test is 2000. That will give
you a clue regarding what's on there.

The test was clearly broken up into 4 sections: remote access, CID, routing,
and switching.

Remote access was pretty easy because I studied for it. 

CID still had the ancient technologies and bizarre wording we have come to
know and love. :-)

Routing was the hardest for me, not because it included any routing
protocols recently added to other tests, but because the questions were
tough. But at least they were well written. I'll have to study OSPF
summarization better for next time (CCNP recert coming up too.)

The switching questions ranged from outrageously easy to tough. I was
shocked at how badly written they were. The author of the switching test
doesn't seem to be a native English speaker. There were missing articles,
and verbs that didn't agree with the subject, and other clues that the
writer wasn't a native English speaker. That's OK, but doesn't Cisco have
editors? Also some of the right (I think!) answers had the logic backwards.
Perhaps if you're thinking in another language and translating, that could
happen.

But I survived and am still a proud CCDP!

Priscilla




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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread Andrew Larkins
congrats!.
I have just over a year left for mine!

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good stuff Priscilla :-)

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I just took the CCDP Recertification exam, exam number 640-529. I got an
878. You need 768 to pass. There were 115 questions and I had extra time.
You get 2 hours.

The test wasn't too bad. The copyright on the test is 2000. That will give
you a clue regarding what's on there.

The test was clearly broken up into 4 sections: remote access, CID, routing,
and switching.

Remote access was pretty easy because I studied for it. 

CID still had the ancient technologies and bizarre wording we have come to
know and love. :-)

Routing was the hardest for me, not because it included any routing
protocols recently added to other tests, but because the questions were
tough. But at least they were well written. I'll have to study OSPF
summarization better for next time (CCNP recert coming up too.)

The switching questions ranged from outrageously easy to tough. I was
shocked at how badly written they were. The author of the switching test
doesn't seem to be a native English speaker. There were missing articles,
and verbs that didn't agree with the subject, and other clues that the
writer wasn't a native English speaker. That's OK, but doesn't Cisco have
editors? Also some of the right (I think!) answers had the logic backwards.
Perhaps if you're thinking in another language and translating, that could
happen.

But I survived and am still a proud CCDP!

Priscilla




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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread Lauren Child
Thanks and congrats!

I have both CCNP and CCDP recerts coming up in the next couple of months.  

Im pretty OK on most things I think (fingers crossed).  I bought the BSCI
Exam certification guide to go through the new bits just in case (and to
revise OSPF and EIGRP), and got the trial InformIT subscription on the
ciscopress website so I could run through the Switching and Remote Access
books quickly and check that there wasnt anything I was majorly rusty on
(for free :)

Its good to know its doable...  Looking back at the old books and notes its
pretty daunting seeing how much info is there.

Thanks :)

TTFN
Lauren



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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread Joseph R. Taylor
Good Morning Priscilla,
   Congratulations.
 JoeT


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RE: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread John McCartney
Congrats Priscilla! BTW I can't seem to find your "Top Down Net Design" book
in any store in TX. Is it still being published?
Thanks.


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Re: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread aletoledo
order it from www.amazon.com, last I saw it was still in-stock. also look
and see how many of the reviews she wrote herself!! ;)

scott

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Re: Survived CCDP recertification! [7:65115]

2003-03-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
aletoledo wrote:
> 
> order it from www.amazon.com, last I saw it was still in-stock.
> also look
> and see how many of the reviews she wrote herself!! ;)

I didn't write any reviews, but my mother did write one! But she really did
read the entire book. She was an economics and management professor for many
years. Alas, she couldn't make it through my second book though. :-)

> 
> scott
> 
> ""John McCartney""  wrote in message
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> > Congrats Priscilla! BTW I can't seem to find your "Top Down
> Net Design"
> book
> > in any store in TX. Is it still being published?

Yes, it's still being published. In fact, it's still selling pretty well. A
lot of brick-and-mortar bookstores have stopped selling professional, (read
expensive), technical books. Instead the bookstores are full of MS Press and
dummy books these days. :-) So check the online bookstores. Thanks for
considering it.

> > Thanks.
> 
> 




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CCNP Recertification Exam Review [7:66644]

2003-04-01 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
The CCNP Recertification Exam was gruelling, and that's no April Fool's
joke. But I survived it! ;-)

Exam number: 640-851 (the current one)
Number of questions: 112
Time: 2 hours
Passing Score 732
My score: 834

Is anyone else taking it soon? Here's some advice:

Do study.
Take each question one at a time.
There's plenty of time.
Despite some of the gruelling questions, there are some give-aways too.
Read carefully.
Don't guess unless you absolutely have to.
BREATHE! ;-)

There's a variety of question types, including one right answer, multiple
right answers (they tell you how many), drag-and-drop, type in the command,
select a command from a list, and that new simulator thingie that Cisco uses.

One reason the test is so hard is that it covers so many topics, in quite a
lot of depth. After a while, your brain gets fried and you forget, is it
OSPF that considers a high priority a good thing (for DR election) or it STP
that considers a high priority a good thing (for root bridge election?)
(It's OSPF). And with OSPF, does a 0 in a mask mean "must match" like in
access lists or does it mean "don't care" like in static routes (and OSPF
range commands?!) (0 means must match in OSPF network statements.)

Those things may seem obvious, but by about question 72, you start to get
confused, if you're like me. You just have to relax and realize that you DO
know this stuff. Don't let your brain get into a Mobius strip like mine
almost did.

The good news is that the questions from the different qualifying tests are
not merged. It's very clear when you move between the following tests:

Routing:
It's based on BSCI actually, not Routing, and is quite hard. Know your BGP,
OSPF, and IS-IS. I used Doyle and papers at CertificationZone. You won't be
able to just use books that you read when you passed 3 years ago.

Support:
This didn't seem to have changed. So you could use the Cisco Press CIT book,
but there is a new resource available too. (Troubleshooting Campus Networks.
:-)

Remote Access:
This didn't seem to have changed. The Cisco Press book edited by Catherine
Pacquet is still an excellent resource. Yes, you may encounter BCRAN
questions from last millennium's technologies and products.

Switching:
This had changed. So know the topics listed for the latest version. I'm not
sure what you should study. I guess the official BCMSN book? I studied with
Cisco LAN Switching, by Clark and Hamilton, which is excellent, but I still
couldn't answer a lot of the questions. I suspect you need a lesser book so
you know all Cisco's latest misconceptions about LAN technologies. ;-)

For the switching exam, know your stuff because some of the questions are
unanswerable by anyone with a logical brain. You'll get things like: Which 3
statements are true?

IEEE 802.3
FDDI
SONET
Gigabit Ethernet

Notice, the answers aren't statements! ARGH.

Finally a word about CertificationZone. I have written troubleshooting
guides for them but am no longer compensated by them, so I hope you won't
think this is biased. Their papers were extremely helpful. Also they have
practice exams for BSCI, Support, BCRAN, and Switching. The practice exams
are very helpful, with one exception: SWITCHING! (The bane of my existence.)
Their switching exam covers too many topics that aren't on the current exam.

Well, that's all for now. I'm just happy to be certifiable for another 3
years.

___

Priscilla Oppenheimer
www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
www.priscilla.com


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RE: CCNP recertification question [7:69943]

2003-06-01 Thread jeff sicuranza
Nope, only passing ccie lab will update your ccnp/dp and na/da


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Re: CCNP recertification question [7:69943]

2003-06-01 Thread Kevin Wigle
no, the CCIE written does one thing and one thing only, allows you to
attempt the lab - and then you have to do so within one year.

The recert extends your CCNP another 3 years.

Kevin Wigle

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> If I pass the CCIE qualifier does that recertify my CCNP and CCNA?




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Re: CCNP recertification question [7:69943]

2003-06-01 Thread Peter Walker
Kevin

Actually you have to attempt the lab within 18 months of completing the 
qualification exam.

If you fail you mustnt leave a a gap of more than twelve months between lab 
attempts and must pass the lab within three years of the qualification exam 
pass.

Peter


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> no, the CCIE written does one thing and one thing only, allows you to
> attempt the lab - and then you have to do so within one year.
>
> The recert extends your CCNP another 3 years.
>
> Kevin Wigle




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Re: CCNP recertification question [7:69943]

2003-06-02 Thread Kevin Wigle
>From CCO:

"Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within 18 months of passing the
CCIE Qualification exam. After the first lab attempt, candidates must
attempt the CCIE lab at least once every 12 months from the last lab attempt
in order for their qualification exam to remain valid. However, if a
candidate has not passed the CCIE Lab exam within three years of passing the
qualification exam, he or she must retake the CCIE qualification exam before
the candidate will be allowed to schedule the lab exam again."

I knew there was a 12 month something in there somewhere.

thanks

Kevin Wigle

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> Kevin
>
> Actually you have to attempt the lab within 18 months of completing the
> qualification exam.
>
> If you fail you mustnt leave a a gap of more than twelve months between
lab
> attempts and must pass the lab within three years of the qualification
exam
> pass.
>
> Peter
>
>
> --On 01 June 2003 02:35 + Kevin Wigle 
wrote:
>
> > no, the CCIE written does one thing and one thing only, allows you to
> > attempt the lab - and then you have to do so within one year.
> >
> > The recert extends your CCNP another 3 years.
> >
> > Kevin Wigle




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RE: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

2002-12-05 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan
Recert is made up of questions from all the exams.

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Subject: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

Folks, I just received my 6 mos. heads up for my CCNP. My CCNP expires in
May of 03 and my DP in June of 03. My second and hopefully last CCIE lab
date is on for 7/30 but can be pushed out into September.

Are there any re-certification books that specifically cover the recert.
exam? Or, is the exam just a rehash of the same stuff with a few newer items
in it?

Has anyone taken these re-certifications exams yet? Any tips.. Greatly
appreciated...

With work and the CCIE stuff should I even bother to re-certify???

Regards...

/JS




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RE: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

2002-12-05 Thread Siddiqi Kenan
Hi there,
First of all, the questions for the re-cert exam are from all the 4 exams
individual subject matter. Secondly, as far as my knowledge extends, CCNP
and CCIE are 2 different tracks. In the sense that getting ur CCIE doesn't
renew your CCNP certification. And if it expires, you lose the option of
giving only the recertification exam. This information is to the best of my
knowledge. I suggest confirm with www.cisco.com and please let us know if
anything differs.
Good luck with ur lab attempt/exams...

Cheers,

Kenan


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RE: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

2002-12-05 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan
CCIE does renew CCNP.

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Subject: RE: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

Hi there,
First of all, the questions for the re-cert exam are from all the 4 exams
individual subject matter. Secondly, as far as my knowledge extends, CCNP
and CCIE are 2 different tracks. In the sense that getting ur CCIE doesn't
renew your CCNP certification. And if it expires, you lose the option of
giving only the recertification exam. This information is to the best of my
knowledge. I suggest confirm with www.cisco.com and please let us know if
anything differs.
Good luck with ur lab attempt/exams...

Cheers,

Kenan




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RE: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

2002-12-05 Thread Andy Barkl
CCIE does not renew the professional-level certifications such as CCNP.
However, professional-level certifications renew associate-level
certifications.

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CCIE does renew CCNP.




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Re: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

2002-12-05 Thread The Long and Winding Road
if I were a CCIE I wouldn't give a flying you know what about the NP.

OTOH, a lot of CCIE's also carry certs like DP, as well as some of the
specialty certifications.

--
TANSTAAFL
"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"




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> CCIE does renew CCNP.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Siddiqi Kenan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]
>
> Hi there,
> First of all, the questions for the re-cert exam are from all the 4 exams
> individual subject matter. Secondly, as far as my knowledge extends, CCNP
> and CCIE are 2 different tracks. In the sense that getting ur CCIE doesn't
> renew your CCNP certification. And if it expires, you lose the option of
> giving only the recertification exam. This information is to the best of
my
> knowledge. I suggest confirm with www.cisco.com and please let us know if
> anything differs.
> Good luck with ur lab attempt/exams...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kenan




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Re: CCNP/DP recertification [7:58564]

2002-12-16 Thread Steve Ringley
Tis an interesting question.  I went into the online tracking system for an
opinion.  There, CCIE allows you to skip the CCNA and common exams
requirement, but you still have to have to have CCDA and a valid CID exam.
The CCIE option did not appear under my CCNP options.

""jeff sicuranza""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Folks, I just received my 6 mos. heads up for my CCNP. My CCNP expires in
May of 03 and my DP in June of 03. My second and hopefully last CCIE lab
date is on for 7/30 but can be pushed out into September.

Are there any re-certification books that specifically cover the recert.
exam? Or, is the exam just a rehash of the same stuff with a few newer items
in it?

Has anyone taken these re-certifications exams yet? Any tips.. Greatly
appreciated...

With work and the CCIE stuff should I even bother to re-certify???

Regards...

/JS




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Dual CCIE and Recertification [7:54799]

2002-10-03 Thread Jim Haynes

I know if you have one CCIE and pass a second one it counts as
recertifiying, however does this mean you would have to recertify both in
the future by taking the written for each one, For example, Security and
R&s?

Jim




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CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]

2003-07-10 Thread grant franklin
Hi,all

I got CCNA certification 4 years ago and not take recertification exam yet.
If I pass all the four CCNP exams, do I need to recertificate my CCNA in
order to get the CCNP certification?

Thanks in advance!

Grant


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CCxx Productions Recertification Exams [7:73032]

2003-07-25 Thread Joseph R. Taylor
Hi Team,
   I'm trying to find out how good CCxx Productions would be for the CCNP
recertification exam.
Thank you,
   JoeT  MCSE, CCNP


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CCIE Recertification UPDATE (Networkers not needed anymore)

2001-02-08 Thread Brad Ellis

Thanks to Mr. Zudal, CCIEs are no longered required to attend Networkers to
recert for their CCIE status.

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Cisco Hardware:  www.optsys.net

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:19 PM
To: szudal@
Subject: CCIE Recertification Changes


Dear CCIE,

In 1997, we introduced the CCIE recertification program. At that time
there were two requirements: attend 5 CCIE-level sessions at Networkers
and successfully complete a CCIE recertification exam every two years.

In response to your feedback, we have decided to drop the Networkers
session requirement for recertification. We will still have CCIE-level
sessions at selected Networkers, however effective February 1, 2001,
attendance will no longer be mandatory for recertification.

All CCIE recertification deadlines will remain the same. Effective
February 1, 2001, a CCIE will be required to successfully complete one
CCIE recertification exam every two years in accordance with your current
deadline.

As part of this program update, we will no longer be issuing
recertification certificates. Exam results are downloaded automatically
into the CCIE database. When the CCIE team receives your successful exam
result, an email notification will be sent to you verifying your
recertification status.

If you have any questions, please write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Good Luck
with your CCIE recertification!

Regards,

CCIE Team





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OT: recertification - of some interest [7:32217]

2002-01-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu

jut got this one from Cisco. One more incentive.

-
TO:  Cisco Career Certificate Holder: CCNA, CCNP, CCDA or CCDP
FROM:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUBJECT:  Upcoming Expiration


CCIE Candidates:

1. If you are currently certified as a CCIE and continue to maintain your
CCIE certification you will NOT be required to recertify in your Associate
or Professional level certifications (CCNA, CCND, CCDA, CCDP).
2. CCIE designations are valid for two years.

For information about earning your CCIE certification, or for information on
CCIE recertification, see www.cisco.com/go/ccie.




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Re: CCNP Recertification Exam Review [7:66644]

2003-04-03 Thread Jonathan V Hays
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> The CCNP Recertification Exam was gruelling, and that's no April Fool's
> joke. But I survived it! ;-)
> 
> Exam number: 640-851 (the current one)
> Number of questions: 112
> Time: 2 hours
> Passing Score 732
> My score: 834
> 
> Is anyone else taking it soon? Here's some advice:

Another piece of advice: make sure you take the exam BEFORE your 
certification expires or you will be wasting your money.

Early in 2002 I foolishly sat for and passed both the CCNPR and 
the CCDPR *after* mine had expired. I waited and waited for the 
confirmation of recertification.  I finally emailed Cisco who 
wrote back with the bad news: the exams didn't count because my 
certifications had already expired when I sat for them. I ended 
up paying again for all the exams and sitting them over again, so 
to speak.

I did take the FRS exam and saved a few dollars. BTW, the FRS 
exam was considerably more difficult than either recertification 
exam, IMHO. The CCIE qualification exam was much easier by 
comparison (at least in April 2002 it was).

-Jonathan




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Re: CCNP Recertification Exam Review [7:66644]

2003-04-03 Thread Scott Roberts
thanks for the advice. seems like very good and concise info!

I have to laugh though, I started my ccnp over two years ago, passing three
of the four tests and then got caught up in work related projects (damn
work!) and put my certificatiosn on the back burner. the funny thing is, my
ccna was about to expire in less than a month, so I took my final ccnp test
(CIT) and renewed my ccna at the same time. it almost seems like you can
find a way to work the system; I was kinda even hoping that ccie would renew
my ccnp/ccna and then I could wait the three years complete that and then
forget about the renewal issue altogether.

scott

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The CCNP Recertification Exam was gruelling, and that's no April Fool's
> joke. But I survived it! ;-)
>
> Exam number: 640-851 (the current one)
> Number of questions: 112
> Time: 2 hours
> Passing Score 732
> My score: 834
>
> Is anyone else taking it soon? Here's some advice:
>
> Do study.
> Take each question one at a time.
> There's plenty of time.
> Despite some of the gruelling questions, there are some give-aways too.
> Read carefully.
> Don't guess unless you absolutely have to.
> BREATHE! ;-)
>
> There's a variety of question types, including one right answer, multiple
> right answers (they tell you how many), drag-and-drop, type in the
command,
> select a command from a list, and that new simulator thingie that Cisco
uses.
>
> One reason the test is so hard is that it covers so many topics, in quite
a
> lot of depth. After a while, your brain gets fried and you forget, is it
> OSPF that considers a high priority a good thing (for DR election) or it
STP
> that considers a high priority a good thing (for root bridge election?)
> (It's OSPF). And with OSPF, does a 0 in a mask mean "must match" like in
> access lists or does it mean "don't care" like in static routes (and OSPF
> range commands?!) (0 means must match in OSPF network statements.)
>
> Those things may seem obvious, but by about question 72, you start to get
> confused, if you're like me. You just have to relax and realize that you
DO
> know this stuff. Don't let your brain get into a Mobius strip like mine
> almost did.
>
> The good news is that the questions from the different qualifying tests
are
> not merged. It's very clear when you move between the following tests:
>
> Routing:
> It's based on BSCI actually, not Routing, and is quite hard. Know your
BGP,
> OSPF, and IS-IS. I used Doyle and papers at CertificationZone. You won't
be
> able to just use books that you read when you passed 3 years ago.
>
> Support:
> This didn't seem to have changed. So you could use the Cisco Press CIT
book,
> but there is a new resource available too. (Troubleshooting Campus
Networks.
> :-)
>
> Remote Access:
> This didn't seem to have changed. The Cisco Press book edited by Catherine
> Pacquet is still an excellent resource. Yes, you may encounter BCRAN
> questions from last millennium's technologies and products.
>
> Switching:
> This had changed. So know the topics listed for the latest version. I'm
not
> sure what you should study. I guess the official BCMSN book? I studied
with
> Cisco LAN Switching, by Clark and Hamilton, which is excellent, but I
still
> couldn't answer a lot of the questions. I suspect you need a lesser book
so
> you know all Cisco's latest misconceptions about LAN technologies. ;-)
>
> For the switching exam, know your stuff because some of the questions are
> unanswerable by anyone with a logical brain. You'll get things like: Which
3
> statements are true?
>
> IEEE 802.3
> FDDI
> SONET
> Gigabit Ethernet
>
> Notice, the answers aren't statements! ARGH.
>
> Finally a word about CertificationZone. I have written troubleshooting
> guides for them but am no longer compensated by them, so I hope you won't
> think this is biased. Their papers were extremely helpful. Also they have
> practice exams for BSCI, Support, BCRAN, and Switching. The practice exams
> are very helpful, with one exception: SWITCHING! (The bane of my
existence.)
> Their switching exam covers too many topics that aren't on the current
exam.
>
> Well, that's all for now. I'm just happy to be certifiable for another 3
> years.
>
> ___
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
> www.priscilla.com




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Re: CCNP Recertification Exam Review [7:66644]

2003-04-03 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I discovered one thing that you can't do that you might think you could do.
After I recertified as a CCDP, I wanted to just take Support to recert as
CCNP. After all, theoretically I had recertified for everything else just by
taking CCDP. Alas, they wouldn't let me do that. I had to do the gruelling
CCNP recert test. It was quite a bit harder than the CCDP test mainly
because the routing questions are based on BSCI. CCDP recert was still using
the Routing questions.

Priscilla

Scott Roberts wrote:
> 
> thanks for the advice. seems like very good and concise info!
> 
> I have to laugh though, I started my ccnp over two years ago,
> passing three
> of the four tests and then got caught up in work related
> projects (damn
> work!) and put my certificatiosn on the back burner. the funny
> thing is, my
> ccna was about to expire in less than a month, so I took my
> final ccnp test
> (CIT) and renewed my ccna at the same time. it almost seems
> like you can
> find a way to work the system; I was kinda even hoping that
> ccie would renew
> my ccnp/ccna and then I could wait the three years complete
> that and then
> forget about the renewal issue altogether.
> 
> scott
> 
> ""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in
> message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The CCNP Recertification Exam was gruelling, and that's no
> April Fool's
> > joke. But I survived it! ;-)
> >
> > Exam number: 640-851 (the current one)
> > Number of questions: 112
> > Time: 2 hours
> > Passing Score 732
> > My score: 834
> >
> > Is anyone else taking it soon? Here's some advice:
> >
> > Do study.
> > Take each question one at a time.
> > There's plenty of time.
> > Despite some of the gruelling questions, there are some
> give-aways too.
> > Read carefully.
> > Don't guess unless you absolutely have to.
> > BREATHE! ;-)
> >
> > There's a variety of question types, including one right
> answer, multiple
> > right answers (they tell you how many), drag-and-drop, type
> in the
> command,
> > select a command from a list, and that new simulator thingie
> that Cisco
> uses.
> >
> > One reason the test is so hard is that it covers so many
> topics, in quite
> a
> > lot of depth. After a while, your brain gets fried and you
> forget, is it
> > OSPF that considers a high priority a good thing (for DR
> election) or it
> STP
> > that considers a high priority a good thing (for root bridge
> election?)
> > (It's OSPF). And with OSPF, does a 0 in a mask mean "must
> match" like in
> > access lists or does it mean "don't care" like in static
> routes (and OSPF
> > range commands?!) (0 means must match in OSPF network
> statements.)
> >
> > Those things may seem obvious, but by about question 72, you
> start to get
> > confused, if you're like me. You just have to relax and
> realize that you
> DO
> > know this stuff. Don't let your brain get into a Mobius strip
> like mine
> > almost did.
> >
> > The good news is that the questions from the different
> qualifying tests
> are
> > not merged. It's very clear when you move between the
> following tests:
> >
> > Routing:
> > It's based on BSCI actually, not Routing, and is quite hard.
> Know your
> BGP,
> > OSPF, and IS-IS. I used Doyle and papers at
> CertificationZone. You won't
> be
> > able to just use books that you read when you passed 3 years
> ago.
> >
> > Support:
> > This didn't seem to have changed. So you could use the Cisco
> Press CIT
> book,
> > but there is a new resource available too. (Troubleshooting
> Campus
> Networks.
> > :-)
> >
> > Remote Access:
> > This didn't seem to have changed. The Cisco Press book edited
> by Catherine
> > Pacquet is still an excellent resource. Yes, you may
> encounter BCRAN
> > questions from last millennium's technologies and products.
> >
> > Switching:
> > This had changed. So know the topics listed for the latest
> version. I'm
> not
> > sure what you should study. I guess the official BCMSN book?
> I studied
> with
> > Cisco LAN Switching, by Clark and Hamilton, which is
> excellent, but I
> still
> > couldn't answer a lot of the questions. I suspect you need a
> lesser book
> so
> > you know all Cisco's latest misconceptions about LAN
> technologies. ;-)
> >
> > For the switching exam, know your stuff because some of the
> questions are
> > una

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