Re: QOS on Sub-interfaces [7:53706]

2002-09-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You could configure custom-queue or priority queue using map-class
frame-relay.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/wan_c/wcdfrely.htm

Regards,

Alaerte




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Re: QOS on Sub-interfaces [7:53706]

2002-09-20 Thread Steven A. Ridder

you can do priority dlci's and you can apply class maps to map classes I
think.


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> Hi listers,
>
> I want to do some form of queueing on sub-interfaces
> on some of my routers. Each subif maps to a frame
> dlci.
>
> does any one know of a feature in IOS that can help?
> most queueing mechanisms I've come across work only on
> interfaces (not subifs.)
>
> thx,
> dayo
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QOS on Sub-interfaces [7:53706]

2002-09-20 Thread dayo olabisi

Hi listers,

I want to do some form of queueing on sub-interfaces
on some of my routers. Each subif maps to a frame
dlci.

does any one know of a feature in IOS that can help?
most queueing mechanisms I've come across work only on
interfaces (not subifs.)

thx,
dayo

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Re: max number of Sub interfaces [7:45288]

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Ellis

Steven,

I supposed it would really depend what else you're doing on the device.
I've worked with a pair of 3640s that each had 300 or so sub-interfaces on
them, running just EIGRP on the routers and they didn't miss a beat.  If
each of those sub-interfaces also had crypto running on them, I'm sure that
would be another story!!!  :)

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
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> down?  Is this number constrained by memory on a router?  But from a
general
> design perspecitive, is there a limit to the number?  Could I do 1000
> subinterfaces on a router with no performance degredation?
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Re: max number of Sub interfaces [7:45288]

2002-05-28 Thread Rahul Kachalia

Steven,

Every interfaces includes subinterface(sw), physical interface(hw),
virtual/logical interface(sw) is divided into s/w & h/w category. Each
Software IDBs takes ~2600bytes v/s Hardware IDBs takes ~4700bytes. No.of
IDBs you want to use it depends upon your system resources have it
currently, going with higher number of subinterfaces may slow down boot
process since it has to nvgen configuration, slow-down other processes like
"sh run" & saving configuration to nvram may not fit with or without
compression, etc...

thanks,
rahul.
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> down?  Is this number constrained by memory on a router?  But from a
general
> design perspecitive, is there a limit to the number?  Could I do 1000
> subinterfaces on a router with no performance degredation?
>
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Re: max number of Sub interfaces [7:45288]

2002-05-28 Thread Mister X

IDB is the magic Word: Interface Descriptor Block
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/63/idb_limit.html

Cheers
Tom


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> Is there a max number of subinterfaces a router can handle before it slows
> down?  Is this number constrained by memory on a router?  But from a
general
> design perspecitive, is there a limit to the number?  Could I do 1000
> subinterfaces on a router with no performance degredation?
>
> --
> RFC 1149 Compliant
>
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RE: max number of Sub interfaces [7:45288]

2002-05-28 Thread Matt Street

check out the link below for your answer

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/63/idb_limit.html

Matt Street

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Is there a max number of subinterfaces a router can handle before it slows
down?  Is this number constrained by memory on a router?  But from a general
design perspecitive, is there a limit to the number?  Could I do 1000
subinterfaces on a router with no performance degredation?

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RE: max number of Sub interfaces [7:45288]

2002-05-28 Thread Lupi, Guy

It really depends on the router, memory and processor do factor into it
significantly.  We have a 7206 with an NPE-300 and 256M of memory, it has
well over 1000 subinterfaces on an ATM OC3, an additional OC3 and a clear
channel DS3, no excessive memory or processor usage.

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Is there a max number of subinterfaces a router can handle before it slows
down?  Is this number constrained by memory on a router?  But from a general
design perspecitive, is there a limit to the number?  Could I do 1000
subinterfaces on a router with no performance degredation?

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max number of Sub interfaces [7:45288]

2002-05-28 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Is there a max number of subinterfaces a router can handle before it slows
down?  Is this number constrained by memory on a router?  But from a general
design perspecitive, is there a limit to the number?  Could I do 1000
subinterfaces on a router with no performance degredation?

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Re: ospf and sub-interfaces [7:38788]

2002-03-19 Thread Erick B.

Hi,

This shouldn't be a problem. I've done it before. Just
make sure the native VLAN is the same on each 802.1q
connection (ie: switch port and router port connecting
to each other are in same native VLAN). If you have a
newer router IOS you can do a 'encaps dot1q # native'
command. Older IOS's didn't have the native keyword.
If you don't have the IOS with the native keyword you
can put the native VLAN IP on the main interface which
will be native VLAN. 

You might also want to hard-code the trunk to on
instead of auto/desirable and turn channeling off and
hardcode the speed/duplex.

HTH, Erick B.

--- bergenpeak  wrote:
> I'm looking at an design where there's a hub-spoke
> network
> based on 802.1q.   Specifically, there will be a
> number of routers
> connect back via FE/GE into a central router through
> an 802.1q
> trunked interface.  Each remote router will run OSPF
> and thus
> should form an OSPF adjancency with the central
> router over its
> respective sub-interface.
> 
> Any issues or gotchas with this?  I've not gotten a
> chance to
> test this out yet.
> 



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ospf and sub-interfaces [7:38788]

2002-03-19 Thread bergenpeak

I'm looking at an design where there's a hub-spoke network
based on 802.1q.   Specifically, there will be a number of routers
connect back via FE/GE into a central router through an 802.1q
trunked interface.  Each remote router will run OSPF and thus
should form an OSPF adjancency with the central router over its
respective sub-interface.

Any issues or gotchas with this?  I've not gotten a chance to
test this out yet.

Thanks much.




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RE: Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support inverse [7:28373]

2001-12-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu

there are some points in Caslow that are not applicable to IOS 12.x and
higher. this is one of them. everyone should be aware that Cisco has changed
a number of things beginning with 12.x, some for the good, like this
particular issue, and some not for the good, like the requirement that
wildcard masks be contiguous.

So - for IOS 12.x, you can have both frame maps and inverse arp operating
simultaneously. unless of course you invoke the no frame inverse-arp command
on the interface. Which you may want to do. sometimes there is a phantom
mapping of 0.0.0.0 to a dlci or two should have seen Val's face the first
time he saw this in ECP1 class ;->

I seem to recall running into this issue recently.

Chuck

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[7:28367]


> I was a bit confused after reading the Ciscopress CCNP Support book and
> Caslow's ccie book. Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support
> inverse arp DLCI mappings?? Ciscopress Support book seem to say no (not
> directly though) but Caslow's book says yes. Thanks in advance...

Yes.  You can either use map statements or inarp, but not both.  If you use
a map statement for a DLCI, inarp will be disabled for it for that protocol.
As the Caslow book says, EITHER use a frame-relay map statement(s) OR
frame-relay interface-dlci , never both.

Best regards,

Geoff Zinderdine

>
> David




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Re: Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support inverse [7:28367]

2001-12-06 Thread Geoff Zinderdine

> I was a bit confused after reading the Ciscopress CCNP Support book and
> Caslow's ccie book. Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support
> inverse arp DLCI mappings?? Ciscopress Support book seem to say no (not
> directly though) but Caslow's book says yes. Thanks in advance...

Yes.  You can either use map statements or inarp, but not both.  If you use
a map statement for a DLCI, inarp will be disabled for it for that protocol.
As the Caslow book says, EITHER use a frame-relay map statement(s) OR
frame-relay interface-dlci , never both.

Best regards,

Geoff Zinderdine

>
> David




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Re: Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support inverse [7:26482]

2001-11-16 Thread Fred Ingham

1.
2.
3.
repost - first post got to originator ok but groupstudy copy chopped off
the first line.  Numbers are to test chop.  Original answer (ack'ed by
originator):

David:  Short answer - yes.  Try it.

Fred



"Ng, Kim Seng David (David)" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was a bit confused after reading the Ciscopress CCNP Support book and
> Caslow's ccie book. Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support
> inverse arp DLCI mappings?? Ciscopress Support book seem to say no (not
> directly though) but Caslow's book says yes. Thanks in advance...
> 
> David




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Re: Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support inverse [7:26446]

2001-11-15 Thread Fred Ingham

Fred

"Ng, Kim Seng David (David)" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I was a bit confused after reading the Ciscopress CCNP Support book and
> Caslow's ccie book. Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support
> inverse arp DLCI mappings?? Ciscopress Support book seem to say no (not
> directly though) but Caslow's book says yes. Thanks in advance...
> 
> David




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Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support inverse arp?? [7:26362]

2001-11-15 Thread Ng, Kim Seng David (David)

Hi,

I was a bit confused after reading the Ciscopress CCNP Support book and
Caslow's ccie book. Can frame-relay multipoint sub-interfaces support
inverse arp DLCI mappings?? Ciscopress Support book seem to say no (not
directly though) but Caslow's book says yes. Thanks in advance...

David




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Re: InterVLAN routing & VLAN Sub-Interfaces [7:16445]

2001-09-16 Thread Hamid

Ok Agreed.

But what if the routers finds 2 matchings for one IP address while
performing an ARP broadcast?

Hamid

*

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> Keep in mind that one routes between IP subnets, not VLANs. VLANs are a
> layer two concept.  From there you should be able to answer you own first
> question.  In the second case, given IP subnets have unique ranges, only
on
> PC will be on the valid subnet and hence be able to communicate to the
rest
> of the network.  Neither PC will be disabled as far as I know, but only
one
> will function.  Using DHCP is highly recommended to overcome this manual
> configuration errors, not to mention it scales better.
>
> Pete
>
>
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
> On 8/18/2001 at 3:55 AM Hamid wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I was studying the InterVlan routing documents and I got to some
questions.
> >In a scenario like the attached file:
> >
> >1. How does the external Router decide how to route the packets between
the
> >VLANs, is the INTERVLAN routing based on the IP address assigned to
> >sub-inteface?
> >
> >2. In these scenarios, how does the router detect a conflicting IP
address?
> >For example, if each IP subnet is assigned to a VLAN( 10.10.1.0 to VLAN 1
> >and 10.10.2.0 to VLAN 2), if two computers on both VLANs are assigned the
> >same IP address (for example 10.10.1.5), how is the confilit detected and
> >which computer is disabled?
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Hamid
> >
> >
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Re: InterVLAN routing & VLAN Sub-Interfaces [7:16445]

2001-08-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 03:55 AM 8/18/01, Hamid wrote:
>Hi
>
>I was studying the InterVlan routing documents and I got to some questions.
>In a scenario like the attached file:
>
>1. How does the external Router decide how to route the packets between the
>VLANs, is the INTERVLAN routing based on the IP address assigned to
>sub-inteface?

Yes, that's right.


>2. In these scenarios, how does the router detect a conflicting IP address?
>For example, if each IP subnet is assigned to a VLAN( 10.10.1.0 to VLAN 1
>and 10.10.2.0 to VLAN 2), if two computers on both VLANs are assigned the
>same IP address (for example 10.10.1.5), how is the confilit detected and
>which computer is disabled?

A router has never been able to detect duplicate IP addresses. It's not its 
job. When the first packet comes in to the router from one of the devices 
assigned to 10.10.1.5, the router would add the source addresses to its ARP 
cache (assuming it's doing ARP gleaning) or the first time it sent to the 
IP address it would ARP and get the MAC address from the first response.

If you use DHCP you shouldn't get duplicates anyway. DHCP checks for 
duplicates.

Priscilla



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>
>Hamid
>
>
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Re: InterVLAN routing & VLAN Sub-Interfaces [7:16445]

2001-08-18 Thread Peter Van Oene

Keep in mind that one routes between IP subnets, not VLANs. VLANs are a
layer two concept.  From there you should be able to answer you own first
question.  In the second case, given IP subnets have unique ranges, only on
PC will be on the valid subnet and hence be able to communicate to the rest
of the network.  Neither PC will be disabled as far as I know, but only one
will function.  Using DHCP is highly recommended to overcome this manual
configuration errors, not to mention it scales better.

Pete


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On 8/18/2001 at 3:55 AM Hamid wrote:

>Hi
>
>I was studying the InterVlan routing documents and I got to some questions.
>In a scenario like the attached file:
>
>1. How does the external Router decide how to route the packets between the
>VLANs, is the INTERVLAN routing based on the IP address assigned to
>sub-inteface?
>
>2. In these scenarios, how does the router detect a conflicting IP address?
>For example, if each IP subnet is assigned to a VLAN( 10.10.1.0 to VLAN 1
>and 10.10.2.0 to VLAN 2), if two computers on both VLANs are assigned the
>same IP address (for example 10.10.1.5), how is the confilit detected and
>which computer is disabled?
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Hamid
>
>
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Re: InterVLAN routing & VLAN Sub-Interfaces [7:16445]

2001-08-18 Thread Tony Medeiros

Answer Inline


> Hi
>
> I was studying the InterVlan routing documents and I got to some
questions.
> In a scenario like the attached file:
>
> 1. How does the external Router decide how to route the packets between
the
> VLANs, is the INTERVLAN routing based on the IP address assigned to
> sub-inteface?

Yes,  The router will make a decision on which interface to use based on the
destination IP address of the Packet it is routing. Either by a connected
network or the next hop according to the routing table.  If it's a trunk
interface with subinterfaces, same thing applies except the router will
encapulate the packet in the proper frame (ISL or Dot1Q)


> 2. In these scenarios, how does the router detect a conflicting IP
address?
> For example, if each IP subnet is assigned to a VLAN( 10.10.1.0 to VLAN 1
> and 10.10.2.0 to VLAN 2), if two computers on both VLANs are assigned the
> same IP address (for example 10.10.1.5), how is the confilit detected and
> which computer is disabled?

The router doesn't disable hosts.  If you assign a ip address to an
interface on a router and a host already has it,  the router will tell you
with a consol message.  It will ARP for the address it you assigned it to
see if there is a duplicate.

Same thing with hosts.  Depending on the OS, If you assign an address that
is already in use on the network, you will get an error message like a " pop
up" in winblows.  Host ususal do an ARP for it's address just like a router.
Appletalk works in the same way, sort of.  It actual can randomly pick it's
own host address in the cable range and checks to see if its in use,  If it
is, it try's another one.

Hope this helps.
Tony M.
#6172

> Thanks
>
> Hamid
>
>
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InterVLAN routing & VLAN Sub-Interfaces [7:16445]

2001-08-18 Thread Hamid

Hi

I was studying the InterVlan routing documents and I got to some questions.
In a scenario like the attached file:

1. How does the external Router decide how to route the packets between the
VLANs, is the INTERVLAN routing based on the IP address assigned to
sub-inteface?

2. In these scenarios, how does the router detect a conflicting IP address?
For example, if each IP subnet is assigned to a VLAN( 10.10.1.0 to VLAN 1
and 10.10.2.0 to VLAN 2), if two computers on both VLANs are assigned the
same IP address (for example 10.10.1.5), how is the confilit detected and
which computer is disabled?


Thanks

Hamid


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Re: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame [7:9881]

2001-06-25 Thread tazman

Problem has been resolved. I found the problem after taking Symon's
suggestion of checking that I did no accidently trying to apply a network or
broadcasxt address to the interface. I found that one of the addresses I was
trying to use was the network address of another interface.

Thanks, for all the responds everyone.

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> Well, since you say you have everything else accounted for, have you tried
> rebooting the router?  Subinterfaces and loopbacks tend to be rather
> troublesome once setup.  Deleting and changing these virtual interfaces
> typically requires a reboot for the changes to take effect completely.
>
> You might also check that "ip subnet-zero" is turned on.  If not, you will
> get that very message if you try to use the zero subnet.
>
> Rik
>
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> [7:9697]
>
>
> I am having a problem when attempting to configure sub-interfaces for a
> Frame Relay connection and was wondering if anyone has ever seen this
> problem before. I configured two routers for a point-to-point Frame Relay
> circuit with sub-interfaces and performed a test and turn-up with AT&T
which
> worked fine. The problem I am having is I realized after I configured the
> interfaces on both routers that I had used the wrong IP addresses. I setup
> both ends of the circuit with a subnet address of 255.255.255.252 but when
I
> attempted to change the address I get a bad subnet mask error. I have both
> routers configured as IP Classless and was able to assign a /30 address to
> both  earlier. I removed the IP address from the interfaces and tried to
add
> a new address and I get the same thing. Is there something special with
> sub-interfaces or Frame Relay which is causing this problem? Any
suggestions
> would be greatly appreciated.




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Re: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame [7:9713]

2001-06-24 Thread Circusnuts

I saw this a year or so ago when cleaning up some older IOS version routers,
when working some T-1 disconnects.  I could not explain it, except that it
was some sort of IOS hold on the config.  I think a reload was the solution.
One router needed a write erase  to wipe the config.

What IOS are we dealing with ???

I think mine were all 11.2 something...

Phil

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame
[7:9704]


> Well, since you say you have everything else accounted for, have you tried
> rebooting the router?  Subinterfaces and loopbacks tend to be rather
> troublesome once setup.  Deleting and changing these virtual interfaces
> typically requires a reboot for the changes to take effect completely.
>
> You might also check that "ip subnet-zero" is turned on.  If not, you will
> get that very message if you try to use the zero subnet.
>
> Rik
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tazman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame Relay
> [7:9697]
>
>
> I am having a problem when attempting to configure sub-interfaces for a
> Frame Relay connection and was wondering if anyone has ever seen this
> problem before. I configured two routers for a point-to-point Frame Relay
> circuit with sub-interfaces and performed a test and turn-up with AT&T
which
> worked fine. The problem I am having is I realized after I configured the
> interfaces on both routers that I had used the wrong IP addresses. I setup
> both ends of the circuit with a subnet address of 255.255.255.252 but when
I
> attempted to change the address I get a bad subnet mask error. I have both
> routers configured as IP Classless and was able to assign a /30 address to
> both  earlier. I removed the IP address from the interfaces and tried to
add
> a new address and I get the same thing. Is there something special with
> sub-interfaces or Frame Relay which is causing this problem? Any
suggestions
> would be greatly appreciated.




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Re: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame [7:9708]

2001-06-24 Thread Michael L. Williams

Are you using IOS 12.0 or above?  If so, "ip subnet-zero" is on by default.
If not, be sure to enable that

Mike W.

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> Well, since you say you have everything else accounted for, have you tried
> rebooting the router?  Subinterfaces and loopbacks tend to be rather
> troublesome once setup.  Deleting and changing these virtual interfaces
> typically requires a reboot for the changes to take effect completely.
>
> You might also check that "ip subnet-zero" is turned on.  If not, you will
> get that very message if you try to use the zero subnet.
>
> Rik
>
> -Original Message-
> From: tazman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame Relay
> [7:9697]
>
>
> I am having a problem when attempting to configure sub-interfaces for a
> Frame Relay connection and was wondering if anyone has ever seen this
> problem before. I configured two routers for a point-to-point Frame Relay
> circuit with sub-interfaces and performed a test and turn-up with AT&T
which
> worked fine. The problem I am having is I realized after I configured the
> interfaces on both routers that I had used the wrong IP addresses. I setup
> both ends of the circuit with a subnet address of 255.255.255.252 but when
I
> attempted to change the address I get a bad subnet mask error. I have both
> routers configured as IP Classless and was able to assign a /30 address to
> both  earlier. I removed the IP address from the interfaces and tried to
add
> a new address and I get the same thing. Is there something special with
> sub-interfaces or Frame Relay which is causing this problem? Any
suggestions
> would be greatly appreciated.




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RE: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame [7:9704]

2001-06-24 Thread Rik Guyler

Well, since you say you have everything else accounted for, have you tried
rebooting the router?  Subinterfaces and loopbacks tend to be rather
troublesome once setup.  Deleting and changing these virtual interfaces
typically requires a reboot for the changes to take effect completely.

You might also check that "ip subnet-zero" is turned on.  If not, you will
get that very message if you try to use the zero subnet.

Rik

-Original Message-
From: tazman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame Relay
[7:9697]


I am having a problem when attempting to configure sub-interfaces for a
Frame Relay connection and was wondering if anyone has ever seen this
problem before. I configured two routers for a point-to-point Frame Relay
circuit with sub-interfaces and performed a test and turn-up with AT&T which
worked fine. The problem I am having is I realized after I configured the
interfaces on both routers that I had used the wrong IP addresses. I setup
both ends of the circuit with a subnet address of 255.255.255.252 but when I
attempted to change the address I get a bad subnet mask error. I have both
routers configured as IP Classless and was able to assign a /30 address to
both  earlier. I removed the IP address from the interfaces and tried to add
a new address and I get the same thing. Is there something special with
sub-interfaces or Frame Relay which is causing this problem? Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.




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Setting up Sub-interfaces on serial interface for Frame Relay [7:9697]

2001-06-24 Thread tazman

I am having a problem when attempting to configure sub-interfaces for a
Frame Relay connection and was wondering if anyone has ever seen this
problem before. I configured two routers for a point-to-point Frame Relay
circuit with sub-interfaces and performed a test and turn-up with AT&T which
worked fine. The problem I am having is I realized after I configured the
interfaces on both routers that I had used the wrong IP addresses. I setup
both ends of the circuit with a subnet address of 255.255.255.252 but when I
attempted to change the address I get a bad subnet mask error. I have both
routers configured as IP Classless and was able to assign a /30 address to
both  earlier. I removed the IP address from the interfaces and tried to add
a new address and I get the same thing. Is there something special with
sub-interfaces or Frame Relay which is causing this problem? Any suggestions
would be greatly appreciated.




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Re: Sub-interfaces and Secondary interfaces

2001-02-13 Thread Rodgers Moore

I have a tidbit to add.

Multicast is not supported on secondary networks.  So you can't support
protocols that use multicast on the secondary network such as WCCP or H323.
Or at least you'll have to configure unicast connectivity for things like
OSPF or EIGRP.

Rodgers Moore


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> Which way do you guys recommend using in Ethernet environment if I have
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over
> the other?.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nabil
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Re: Sub-interfaces and Secondary interfaces

2001-02-12 Thread george


You really do not  have a lot of choice in the matter. The subinterface
configuration can not be use unless you are running ISL encapsulation
(vlans) or a point-multipoint type network on the interface.  If you try to
use the sub-interface setup without these the router will give you an error.
Makes your decision easy.



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>

> Which way do you guys recommend using in Ethernet environment if I have

> multiple subnets? Are there any advantages/disadvantages for using one
over

> the other?.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Nabil

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>
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>
> Nabil
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RE: Sub-interfaces and Secondary interfaces

2001-02-12 Thread Brant Stevens

I only use secondary interfaces as a means for migrating between IP
addressing schemes, but that's just me...  They can come in handy when used
in multi-homed, non BGP environment...

I think sub-interfaces would make a really cool replacement...

Brant I. Stevens
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One disadvantage of using secondary interfaces is that Cisco has indicated
secondary interface support will disappear in future IOS releases, in favour
of supporting subinterface configurations.



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Greetings all,

Which way do you guys recommend using in Ethernet environment if I have
multiple subnets? Are there any advantages/disadvantages for using one over
the other?.

Thanks,

Nabil

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Re: Sub-interfaces and Secondary interfaces

2001-02-12 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Greetings all,
>
>Which way do you guys recommend using in Ethernet environment if I have
>multiple subnets? Are there any advantages/disadvantages for using one over
>the other?.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Nabil


They do different things.  In large part, secondaries are a rather 
ugly hack to deal with an assortment of problems caused by classful 
addressing.  I avoid them whenever possible.

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RE: Sub-interfaces and Secondary interfaces

2001-02-12 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

One disadvantage of using secondary interfaces is that Cisco has indicated
secondary interface support will disappear in future IOS releases, in favour
of supporting subinterface configurations.



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Greetings all,

Which way do you guys recommend using in Ethernet environment if I have
multiple subnets? Are there any advantages/disadvantages for using one over
the other?.

Thanks,

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Sub-interfaces and Secondary interfaces

2001-02-12 Thread Nabil Fares

Greetings all,

Which way do you guys recommend using in Ethernet environment if I have
multiple subnets? Are there any advantages/disadvantages for using one over
the other?.

Thanks,

Nabil

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Re: Secondary vrs sub interfaces

2001-01-25 Thread Mason Eike


I think you may be referring to secondary networks for an Interface
and then Sub-interfaces.

Secondary refers to secondary network or IP for an interface.  Say you
want to assign more than (1) IP or block of IP's to an interface what
already has an IP address/block assigned.. say.:
 
 interface Ethernet 0
 ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0
 
 To add another IP or block to the interface you would do the
following:

 ip adress {network} {netmask} secondary

 making..

 interface Ethernet 0
 ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 
 ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 secondary

 Now you'll have 2 networks directly connected to Ethernet0 in your
route table.

 Sub-Interfaces -

 I've only used sub-interfaces in a frame-relay scenario.  Say you
have multiple branch offices which are all connected via Frame Relay.
In order to communicate with them you need FR PVC's mapped to all of
them throughout the frame cloud, not necessarily full mesh.. :).  Each
PVC will have a separate DLCI pair describing essentially
entrance/exit points in the network.  You will need to build
frame-relay subinterfaces with a dlci to distinquish each branch
office connection for the other.

Say.

 interface Serial0.1 is used to connect to BranchA
 interface Serial0.2 is used to connect to BranchB
 interface Serial0.3 is used to connect to BranchC

In turn.. BranchA will need an sub interface with DLCI configured to
speak with Branch B and so on..

Hope that make sense.. If not I'm sure someone on here can straighten
me and you out..

 Cheers.
 Mas


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Secondary vrs sub interfaces

2001-01-25 Thread Charles Nunie

Hi everyone,

What's the difference between secondary and sub interfaces and when and where
are they applied.

Dzilo


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RE: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-11-02 Thread Louie Belt

If using a physical interface with Frame -Relay(or other NBMA network), the
default for ip split horizon is off.  With a standard serial link (no-frame
(NBMA)) the default is for split horizon to be on.

Louie

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Hi Louie
I just want to clear one thing.
I thought that subinterface was created as a solution
for split horizon, so without subinterface configured,
split horizon should be on.
Could you verify what you said "if you are no using a
sub
interface on a physical interface, split horizon is
off by default, always
enable it on any "spoke" routers."?
I am not trying to be against you. I just want to
clear myself up.
Thanks.
jeongwoo

--- Louie Belt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Be sure to turn off ip split horizon (or apple, or
> ipx eigrp) on the
> multipoint interface.  Also remember, over frame, if
> you are no using a sub
> interface on a physical interface, split horizon is
> off by default, always
> enable it on any "spoke" routers.
>
> Additionally be aware of the issues that each
> routing protocol has with a
> multipoint interface (i.e. - setting the ospf
> network type on the spokes and
> hub).
>
> Louie
>
>   Since time immemorial and pre-industrial, 'greed'
> has been the accusation
> hurled at the rich by the concrete-bound illiterates
> who were unable to
> conceive of the source of wealth or of the
> motivation of those who produce
> it.
>   -- Ayn Rand
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Austin
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 9:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)
>
>
> I am configuring 2 sub-interfaces on the router. One
> subinterface for the
> connection to router1 and 1 subinterface for the
> connection to router2 and
> router3. I will not be configuring subinterfaces on
> router1, router2 and
> router3.
> Hope this gives you some more information and it is
> a Frame Relay
> environment yes. You guys rock!
>
>
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> >
> >
> > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all for your help. I have one more
> question though :)
> > > > Can you configure one subinterface to
> communicate with 2 different
> > > routers?
> > >
> > > can you be more specific?  I am going to make
> the assumption you are
> > > talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you
> can configure a sub
> > > interface as "point to multipoint" and it can
> communicate with many
> > > routers within that same subnet.
> > >
> > > brian
> > >
> >
> > Hey, you know what. I was going to try to answer
> this question but wasn't
> too
> > sure and didn't want to steer him in the wrong
> way. What you said is what
> I
> > thought but something is bothering me.
> >
> > Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head,
> and it's connected to 5
> > remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5
> subinterfaces. Each for
> a
> > different remote end. This is easy to me and
> normal. His question makes me
> > think though because he is asking if, instead of
> having one sub-int for
> each
> > remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one
> of those sub-int's for 2
> of
> > the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and
> I'm wondering if it
> would
> > work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for
> it?
> >
> > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-11-01 Thread jeongwoo park

hi Brian.
I have a quick question from what you mentioned
regarding multipoint subinterface that I have always
been wondering about.
You mentioned, "Point to multipoint" and it can
communicate with many routers within that same
subnet."
Let's say there is a router in a headquarter, and 2
routers in a branch office, so let's say there are
three interfaces are participating in Frame-Relay.
My quick question is;
Are you saying that these three participating
interfaces should be in the same subnet in order to
communicate?
What if they are not in the same subnet?
Could you make it clear for me?
Thanks
jeongwoo

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> On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
> 
> > Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> > 
> > Thank you all for your help. I have one more
> question though :)
> > Can you configure one subinterface to communicate
> with 2 different routers?
> 
> can you be more specific?  I am going to make the
> assumption you are
> talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can
> configure a sub
> interface as "point to multipoint" and it can
> communicate with many
> routers within that same subnet.
> 
> brian
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-10-29 Thread Mike N Balistreri

you can define a subinterface to be "multipoint" instead of "
point-to-point". then instead of
using "frame-relay interface-dlci x"

use multiple "frame-relay map" commands under that subinterface definition.
apply an IP address to the subinterface, and the IP addresses on the other
side of the PVCs must all be in the same subnet.

Mike Balistreri


">
>Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
>Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different routers?
>
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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-10-29 Thread Frank B.

Austin,

This response is in a bit more detail than the others but I think it's
worth it.  

As another option you can also specify multiple dlci's and still use the
"frame-relay interface-dlci xxx" -- once for each dlci.  This will allow
you to continue to use dynamic mapping vice static map statements.  The
"hub router's" subinterface which communicates with the others would be
multipoint and the "spoke" subinterfaces would be point-to-point.

To try this example, you can use a router to act as a frame relay switch
with 3 other routers hanging off--the "frame-relay route" commands on
the frame-switch (a 4500 in this case) would look like this:

hostname FrameSwitch
!
int s0  ! Spoke A hangs off here
frame-relay route 100 interface s2 200
!
int s1  ! Spoke B hangs off here
frame-relay route 300 interface s2 400
!
int s2  ! "Hub router C" with point-to-miltipoint sub-int
!
frame-relay route 200 interface s0 100
frame-relay route 400 interface s1 300

! Note there's a frame route to AND from each dlci--also keep in mind
using a router as a frame relay switch is a practice for a lab
enviornment.
!
! interface commands and the result of a sh frame-relay map on the hub
router:
!
interface Serial0.3 multipoint
 ip address 172.0.5.1 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 200
 frame-relay interface-dlci 400
!
Serial0.3 (up): ip 172.0.5.2 dlci 200(0x1F7,0x7C70), dynamic,
  broadcast,, status defined, active
Serial0.3 (up): ip 172.0.5.3 dlci 400(0x1F6,0x7C60), dynamic,
  broadcast,, status defined, active
! 
!interface commands and sh frame-relay map on the Spoke A
!
interface Serial1.3 point-to-point
 ip address 172.0.5.2 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 100
!
sh fr map
Serial1.3 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 100(0x1F5,0x7C50), broadcast
  status defined, active
!
!interface commands and sh frame-relay map on Spoke B
!
interface Serial0.3 point-to-point
 ip address 172.0.5.3 255.255.255.0
 frame-relay interface-dlci 300
!
sh fr map
Serial0.3 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 300(0x1F4,0x7C40), broadcast
  status defined, active


I hand jammed some of these commands but I have working lab configs if
you're sincerely interested.  The best description of just about all
frame-relay options known to man is in Caslow's book "Cisco
Certification: Bridges, Routers and Switches for CCIEs.  If you're
working with frame I hihgly recommend reading this book whether or not
being a CCIE is on your list of "things-to-do" or not.  Also the Cisco
docs have some great examples you can work after reading the clear
explanations by Caslow. Hope this helps...Aloha,  Frank

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> >Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> >Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different routers?
> >
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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-10-29 Thread Mike N Balistreri

you can define a subinterface to be "point-to-multipoint". then instead of
using "frame-relay interface-dlci x"

use multiple "frame-relay map" commands under that subinterface definition.

Mike Balistreri

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>Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
>Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different routers?
>
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RE: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-10-29 Thread Louie Belt

Be sure to turn off ip split horizon (or apple, or ipx eigrp) on the
multipoint interface.  Also remember, over frame, if you are no using a sub
interface on a physical interface, split horizon is off by default, always
enable it on any "spoke" routers.

Additionally be aware of the issues that each routing protocol has with a
multipoint interface (i.e. - setting the ospf network type on the spokes and
hub).

Louie

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Austin
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 9:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)


I am configuring 2 sub-interfaces on the router. One subinterface for the
connection to router1 and 1 subinterface for the connection to router2 and
router3. I will not be configuring subinterfaces on router1, router2 and
router3.
Hope this gives you some more information and it is a Frame Relay
environment yes. You guys rock!


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In a message dated 10/29/00 12:51:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> > >
> > > Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> > > Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different
> > routers?
> >
> > can you be more specific?  I am going to make the assumption you are
> > talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can configure a sub
> > interface as "point to multipoint" and it can communicate with many
> > routers within that same subnet.
> >
> > brian
> >
>
> Hey, you know what. I was going to try to answer this question but wasn't
too
> sure and didn't want to steer him in the wrong way. What you said is what
I
> thought but something is bothering me.
>
> Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head, and it's connected to 5
> remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5 subinterfaces. Each for
a
> different remote end. This is easy to me and normal. His question makes me
> think though because he is asking if, instead of having one sub-int for
each
> remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one of those sub-int's for 2
of
> the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and I'm wondering if it
would
> work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for it?
>
> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-10-29 Thread Brian

On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:

> I am configuring 2 sub-interfaces on the router. One subinterface for the
> connection to router1 and 1 subinterface for the connection to router2 and
> router3. I will not be configuring subinterfaces on router1, router2 and
> router3.
> Hope this gives you some more information and it is a Frame Relay
> environment yes. You guys rock!

Yes this is fine.  The best way to answer these questions is to just try
ityou usually learn alot doing it.

It is perfectly fine to use a subinterface on router 1 (in point to
multipoint) to talk to an interface on routers 2 and 3 (not
subinterface).  The fact you are using subinterfaces or not using sub
interfaces is trasparent to the distant end.

Brian


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> > In a message dated 10/29/00 12:51:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >
> > > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> > > > Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different
> > > routers?
> > >
> > > can you be more specific?  I am going to make the assumption you are
> > > talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can configure a sub
> > > interface as "point to multipoint" and it can communicate with many
> > > routers within that same subnet.
> > >
> > > brian
> > >
> >
> > Hey, you know what. I was going to try to answer this question but wasn't
> too
> > sure and didn't want to steer him in the wrong way. What you said is what
> I
> > thought but something is bothering me.
> >
> > Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head, and it's connected to 5
> > remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5 subinterfaces. Each for
> a
> > different remote end. This is easy to me and normal. His question makes me
> > think though because he is asking if, instead of having one sub-int for
> each
> > remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one of those sub-int's for 2
> of
> > the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and I'm wondering if it
> would
> > work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for it?
> >
> > Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
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Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-10-29 Thread Austin

I am configuring 2 sub-interfaces on the router. One subinterface for the
connection to router1 and 1 subinterface for the connection to router2 and
router3. I will not be configuring subinterfaces on router1, router2 and
router3.
Hope this gives you some more information and it is a Frame Relay
environment yes. You guys rock!


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In a message dated 10/29/00 12:51:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> > >
> > > Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> > > Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different
> > routers?
> >
> > can you be more specific?  I am going to make the assumption you are
> > talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can configure a sub
> > interface as "point to multipoint" and it can communicate with many
> > routers within that same subnet.
> >
> > brian
> >
>
> Hey, you know what. I was going to try to answer this question but wasn't
too
> sure and didn't want to steer him in the wrong way. What you said is what
I
> thought but something is bothering me.
>
> Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head, and it's connected to 5
> remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5 subinterfaces. Each for
a
> different remote end. This is easy to me and normal. His question makes me
> think though because he is asking if, instead of having one sub-int for
each
> remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one of those sub-int's for 2
of
> the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and I'm wondering if it
would
> work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for it?
>
> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
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Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head, and it's connected to 5 
> remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5 subinterfaces. Each for a 
> different remote end. This is easy to me and normal. His question makes me 
> think though because he is asking if, instead of having one sub-int for each 
> remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one of those sub-int's for 2 of 
> the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and I'm wondering if it would 
> work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for it?

The whole point of point-to-multipoint is to connect to more than one
remote.  If you run point to multipoint on a subinterface, you can map
more than one dlci/destination pair.  

If you had 5 remotes and 5 interfaces, then you would no doubt have 5
networks, and would probably want to run point-to-point.  Unless you had
more than one remote on a network, then you would run
point-to-multipointall I am saying is the only reason you would
run point to multipoint in the first place is if you had more than one
destination off a subinterface.

Brian


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Re: Sub Interfaces (hmmm?)

2000-10-28 Thread NeoLink2000

In a message dated 10/29/00 12:51:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:
> 
> > Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> > 
> > Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> > Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different 
> routers?
> 
> can you be more specific?  I am going to make the assumption you are
> talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can configure a sub
> interface as "point to multipoint" and it can communicate with many
> routers within that same subnet.
> 
> brian
> 

Hey, you know what. I was going to try to answer this question but wasn't too 
sure and didn't want to steer him in the wrong way. What you said is what I 
thought but something is bothering me.

Point-to-multipoint. Lets say you have the head, and it's connected to 5 
remote ends. On the head you would use basically 5 subinterfaces. Each for a 
different remote end. This is easy to me and normal. His question makes me 
think though because he is asking if, instead of having one sub-int for each 
remote end, to have 4 interfaces and lets say one of those sub-int's for 2 of 
the remote ends. I haven't ever seen this done and I'm wondering if it would 
work??? Hmmm, interesting thought. Anybody up for it?

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-10-28 Thread Kenneth Lorenzo

sure. You can do it for ethernet interface or serial interfaces. You can
configure the secondary ip address on that interface.

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>
> Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different
routers?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
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Re: Sub Interfaces

2000-10-28 Thread Brian

On Sat, 28 Oct 2000, Austin wrote:

> Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)
> 
> Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
> Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different routers?

can you be more specific?  I am going to make the assumption you are
talking about Frame Relay, in which case yes you can configure a sub
interface as "point to multipoint" and it can communicate with many
routers within that same subnet.

brian


> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
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Sub Interfaces

2000-10-28 Thread Austin

Hi Group (Brian, Tim Brad, et al.)

Thank you all for your help. I have one more question though :)
Can you configure one subinterface to communicate with 2 different routers?

Thanks in advance,


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Re: Deleting Sub interfaces

2000-09-21 Thread Chris Larson

You must reboot after deleting sub interface to completely clear it from
router.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 7:58 PM
Subject: Deleting Sub interfaces


> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> I have a intresting question, I have a 7204 VXR Router with 12.0(7)T
> IOS.  I am using sub-interfaces on the Hssi3/1 interface.  When I am no
> longer need a sub-interface I go into config t and type no int
hssi3/1.154.
> It deletes it, but if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 I get the following:
>
> Hssi3/1.154 is deleted, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is M2T-HSSI-B
>   Description:  Club 095
>   MTU 4470 bytes, BW 45045 Kbit, DLY 200 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 5/255, rxload 2/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY
>
>
>
> Is there any way of clearing the information(without rebooting the
> router) so if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 it gives me this:
>
> WComDS3DLCI102#sho int hssi3/1.158
>^
> % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick Stiever
> Communications Engineer
> 24 Hour Fitness
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Re: Deleting Sub interfaces

2000-09-20 Thread Joe Dewberry

My favorite would be to make a clean config on your tftp server and then
issue WRITE ERASE followd by COPY TFTP START and reload the router.  That's
if you can afford a reload on a production box.
"Patrick Stiever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>
> I have a intresting question, I have a 7204 VXR Router with 12.0(7)T
> IOS.  I am using sub-interfaces on the Hssi3/1 interface.  When I am no
> longer need a sub-interface I go into config t and type no int
hssi3/1.154.
> It deletes it, but if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 I get the following:
>
> Hssi3/1.154 is deleted, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is M2T-HSSI-B
>   Description:  Club 095
>   MTU 4470 bytes, BW 45045 Kbit, DLY 200 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 5/255, rxload 2/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY
>
>
>
> Is there any way of clearing the information(without rebooting the
> router) so if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 it gives me this:
>
> WComDS3DLCI102#sho int hssi3/1.158
>^
> % Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick Stiever
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Deleting Sub interfaces

2000-09-20 Thread jenny . mcleod



If it's anything like sub-interfaces on a serial interface - no, you have to
reboot the router to get rid of it completely.  At least I haven't found any
other way of doing it - I'd like to know if you find one though.

JMcL
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Please respond to Patrick Stiever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Subject:  Deleting Sub interfaces



Ladies and Gentlemen,

 I have a intresting question, I have a 7204 VXR Router with 12.0(7)T
IOS.  I am using sub-interfaces on the Hssi3/1 interface.  When I am no
longer need a sub-interface I go into config t and type no int hssi3/1.154.
It deletes it, but if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 I get the following:

Hssi3/1.154 is deleted, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M2T-HSSI-B
  Description:  Club 095
  MTU 4470 bytes, BW 45045 Kbit, DLY 200 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 5/255, rxload 2/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY



 Is there any way of clearing the information(without rebooting the
router) so if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 it gives me this:

 WComDS3DLCI102#sho int hssi3/1.158
   ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.


Any ideas?

Thanks

Patrick Stiever
Communications Engineer
24 Hour Fitness
(760) 918 4459
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Re: Deleting Sub interfaces

2000-09-20 Thread Casey Fahey


Sorry dude, I am pretty sure you need to down the router to clear the 
deleted subinterface.

Casey

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>Ladies and Gentlemen,
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>   I have a intresting question, I have a 7204 VXR Router with 12.0(7)T
>IOS.  I am using sub-interfaces on the Hssi3/1 interface.  When I am no
>longer need a sub-interface I go into config t and type no int hssi3/1.154.
>It deletes it, but if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 I get the following:
>
>Hssi3/1.154 is deleted, line protocol is down
>   Hardware is M2T-HSSI-B
>   Description:  Club 095
>   MTU 4470 bytes, BW 45045 Kbit, DLY 200 usec,
>  reliability 255/255, txload 5/255, rxload 2/255
>   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY
>
>
>
>   Is there any way of clearing the information(without rebooting the
>router) so if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 it gives me this:
>
>   WComDS3DLCI102#sho int hssi3/1.158
>^
>% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.
>
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>
>Patrick Stiever
>Communications Engineer
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Deleting Sub interfaces

2000-09-20 Thread Patrick Stiever

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I have a intresting question, I have a 7204 VXR Router with 12.0(7)T
IOS.  I am using sub-interfaces on the Hssi3/1 interface.  When I am no
longer need a sub-interface I go into config t and type no int hssi3/1.154.
It deletes it, but if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 I get the following:

Hssi3/1.154 is deleted, line protocol is down
  Hardware is M2T-HSSI-B
  Description:  Club 095
  MTU 4470 bytes, BW 45045 Kbit, DLY 200 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 5/255, rxload 2/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY



Is there any way of clearing the information(without rebooting the
router) so if I type sho int hssi3/1.154 it gives me this:

WComDS3DLCI102#sho int hssi3/1.158
   ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.


Any ideas?

Thanks

Patrick Stiever 
Communications Engineer 
24 Hour Fitness 
(760) 918 4459 
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Mib id to get the utilization of sub-interfaces

2000-05-15 Thread Chan Dovelet

Hi all,

I can use SNMP to get the network utilization of a
interface. However, can I use SNMP to get the network
utilization of the frame relay port and ATM port where
they are in sub-interfaces. Is there any MIB ID can
allow me to do so?

Regards.
Dovelet

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RE: Sub interfaces

2000-05-09 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Here are some examples with Frame Relay (watch for word wrap) :
 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios103/rpcg/79086.h
tm#xtocid844938
 
HTH, Ole



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Subject: Sub interfaces


Can someone point me to a reference on how to configure sub interfaces?
 
Aaron Custer

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Sub interfaces

2000-05-09 Thread admin RHS



Can someone point me to a reference on how to 
configure sub interfaces?
 
Aaron Custer