RE: Passed BCRAN [7:58548]

2002-12-04 Thread John McCartney
congrats...study hard ...routing/support are the hardest ones.


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RE: Passed BCRAN [7:58548]

2002-12-04 Thread Siddiqi Kenan
Congratulations! Good luck with ur next exam...

Cheers,

Kenan


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Passed BCRAN [7:58548]

2002-12-04 Thread Arni V. Skarphedinsson
Well passed BCRAN tody, It was an ok test, not to hard, the only thing that
gave me any problems was, a lot of Modem / Access Server type question, as
that is somthing I have no hands on experience with.

Well onto to Routing next, then support.




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RE: Passed BCRAN [7:45182]

2002-05-31 Thread John McCartney

Thanks to everyone for your input, I heard it wasn't that bad compared to
the other 3. If you know the material from those it shouldn't be that bad.
Plus I have some SNA experience from way back in 89' - wow dating myself. I
hope to read/study/do home labs and pass by mid July.

Thanks again to all for input.

"Remember, wherever you go - there you are".

John


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RE: Passed BCRAN [7:45182]

2002-05-28 Thread adam lee

So what's your point?

Give him some props and stop being a weenie.

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I passed it in 3 days reading the book.

Its easy




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Re: Passed BCRAN [7:45182]

2002-05-27 Thread Kris Keen

I passed it in 3 days reading the book.

Its easy


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Re: Passed BCRAN [7:45182]

2002-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I passed it with job experience, 4 routers, Cicso Press, and pressure from 
my then fiancee to pass it

Theo






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3 down now just support and I'll join the ranks of a lot of you fellow
CCNP's. Any suggestions with Support exam, is it that tough compared to 
the
other three. Thanks in advance.




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Passed BCRAN [7:45182]

2002-05-27 Thread John McCartney

3 down now just support and I'll join the ranks of a lot of you fellow
CCNP's. Any suggestions with Support exam, is it that tough compared to the
other three. Thanks in advance.


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Just passed BCRAN, now CCNP [7:44031]

2002-05-13 Thread Stephane LITKOWSKI

I just passed BCRAN with 932 and just become a CCNP.

Now go to the CCIE written !

Thanks all for help.

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RE: Just passed BCRAN, now CCNP [7:44031]

2002-05-13 Thread Kris Keen


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Re: Passed BCRAN..... [7:27227]

2001-11-26 Thread c.h.Ip

Johnny McKenzie wrote:

> Just finished my BCRAN ( 3 down, 1 to go ) with a good mark ( 897) but was
a
> bit disturbed by some of the questions, at least three questions of the
> select
> from the list of command types were totally obvious, keeping the NDA in
mind,
> one question specified an IP address, and in the list of commands that IP
> address was listed *once*. Totally self evident, about 4 other quite
obvioius
> answers in that list as well regarding  DLCI numbers and dialer-maps, the
> number specified in the question only appears once in the list of commands
> Looks like you could grab a guy of the street and they would get 500 by
> deduction and guessing.
> 
> While I like the list of commands, as I'm a very poor rote learner and
have a
> hell of a time remebering where the hypens go, as well as I speak English
> rather than Amerish, ( Neighbour gives you no marks in the exam, but as I
> never type the whole command in the CLI, you tend to default to what they
> taught you in school ). But I do feel it is critical that the command list
be
> extended so there is 3 or 4 possible options for any given value. ( yes, I
> did
> leave comments in the exam )
> 
> What did I get wrong ? The stuff I didn't study, what models have what
> capabilites ( Like I'm going to spec up an install without checking the
> website ) and the 700 series ( I just ignored it, no use confusing yourself
> with another command line for 5 or 6 marks and I've never encountered one
yet
> )
> 
> So onto the home straight.CIT and I'm a CCNP
> 


I also share your feeling.  Took this test today,  and frankly speaking, 
I didn't feel that I'm deserved to have a pass (missed many questions in 
async/PPP, ISDN protocols), however, because of this easy way to guess a 
command, I barely passed with 819.


for me, 2 more to go (switching, CIT) to the CCNP.

Regards,
c.h.Ip

ps. any readers in Hong Kong?  need study parthers ;-)




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RE: Passed BCRAN..... [7:27227]

2001-11-25 Thread Theodore stout

Just so you know, I am African-American, got a Master's in Linguistics, and
still I don't understand Cisco's test questions totally.  Perhaps Cali-talk?

Theo


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RE: Passed BCRAN [7:24213]

2001-10-28 Thread Brian Wilkins

I must respectfully disagree on the BCRAN being so easy for one simple
reason: there were some questions that were simply unfair.  Let me preface
it by saying that I passed it a few days ago with an 875.

Now, here's my beef with the test.  There were some questions that asked for
one answer, where given the information, more than one answer was correct. 
One of those that specifically comes to mind had to do with setting up a
frame-relay connection and it wanted a single answer.  It did not tell you
what version of the IOS was running, but two, out of a list of 5 or 6
possibilities were "assign it statically using the frame map command" which
seems right to me, and "assign it dynamically using inverse ARP", which is
also correct if you are running IOS 11.3 or later.  I, of course entered my
comments on it.

There were other questions that had only one correct answer, but asked for
two choices.  One of those that I recall had to do with PPP Multilink, and
which technologies could use it.  The possibilities were Ethernet, Token
Ring, ISDN, and some other LAN technology.  Unless I've missed something,
PPP multilink would only work, in that scenario using ISDN.  But I had to
pick 2!!

The "fill in the blank" questions, like you stated, were REALLY easy,
especially when they even go so far as to put things in the possible options
as the exact number of the dialer list that's contained within the question,
etc.  Kinda dumb, but I guess that's their way of making up for the
impossible to answer questions like those I mentioned above.

For what it's worth.

Brian




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> That's funny.  The same thing happened to me on the BCRAN
> exam.  Good luck
> with your routing exam.
> 
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> 
> 
> Passed Remote Access on Monday (909/1000, 703 to
> pass).  This is the most straightforward exam I have
> seen so far (switch, support and RAS). For example,
> when they ask you to choose a X25 or ISDN command from
> the list, sometimes the list has only one command
> starting with "x25" or "ISDN".  You can't miss it.
> 
> While taking the test, the NT server crashed TWICE and
> I had to complete the Cisco survey three times.
> Fortunately, the test was easy and I didn't panick.
> 
> I want to thank everyone on this list for direct /
> indirect help.  Now on to my last exam: routing!
> 
> 
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RE: Passed BCRAN [7:24213]

2001-10-25 Thread Andy Hoang

That's funny.  The same thing happened to me on the BCRAN exam.  Good luck
with your routing exam.

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Passed Remote Access on Monday (909/1000, 703 to
pass).  This is the most straightforward exam I have
seen so far (switch, support and RAS). For example,
when they ask you to choose a X25 or ISDN command from
the list, sometimes the list has only one command
starting with "x25" or "ISDN".  You can't miss it.

While taking the test, the NT server crashed TWICE and
I had to complete the Cisco survey three times.
Fortunately, the test was easy and I didn't panick.

I want to thank everyone on this list for direct /
indirect help.  Now on to my last exam: routing!


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Passed BCRAN [7:24213]

2001-10-25 Thread J. Li

Passed Remote Access on Monday (909/1000, 703 to
pass).  This is the most straightforward exam I have
seen so far (switch, support and RAS). For example,
when they ask you to choose a X25 or ISDN command from
the list, sometimes the list has only one command
starting with "x25" or "ISDN".  You can't miss it.

While taking the test, the NT server crashed TWICE and
I had to complete the Cisco survey three times. 
Fortunately, the test was easy and I didn't panick.

I want to thank everyone on this list for direct /
indirect help.  Now on to my last exam: routing!
 

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Passed BCRAN - 943 [7:18479]

2001-09-04 Thread Gareth Hinton

Hi all,

Been a while. Had a bit of a break from studying (CCNP at least). Spent the
past week going through the book and passed BCRAN today with a 943. Chuffed
to bits with result.  Especially as I was fairly certain of 3 out of the 4
questions I got wrong. Two of them pretty obscure and not bothered about
them at all.

62 questions - 706 to pass - 75 minutes.
Very few questions asking for typed commands, except the ones where you
select the command from a list then type it in.


Used the Cisco Press BCRAN book and one of the Boson exams to get an idea of
question format.
Exam seemed to cover most areas of the book including glimpses of the
wonderful 700. I must admit I was not over impressed with the book. It seems
to have a hell of a lot of errors considering the age of most of the
content. I've already done the routing and switching using the Cisco Press
books, which I thought were excellent, but I was getting pretty sick of the
lack of explanation in the BCRAN book.
But, having said that, if you read all of the book, including Appendices,
it's all there.

Anyway, on to the last exam - CIT, scheduled for next Tuesday at the moment,
bit optimistic, but being pushed by my company who need it for Gold
certification. I've been plodding along for a while so time to get stuff
done!

Thanks again to all on the group who have probably provided more of an
education/inspiration than any of the books.


Gaz




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Re: Passed BCRAN [7:13433]

2001-07-23 Thread David L. Blair

> Let's see how and when I am able to pass the other 2 exams to become a
> CCNP. Any inputs on BSCN and Support exams welcome.

For me BSCN was harder than BCRAN and Support was easier.  I recommend
taking Support last since is it basically a review of the other three tests
but from a Support point of view Plus extra troubleshooting related
questions.

BSCN = BGP, BGP, and BGP plus OSPF, EIGRP, and a little RIP

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Passed BCRAN [7:13433]

2001-07-23 Thread Sudarshan N Chari

Hello Groupies,

Just coming back from BCRAN exam. I passed with a score of 898. Passing
score was 706. Total 62 questions. Time limit was 1hr 15mins. Was able
to do it well within time. To my astonishment there were only 3
questions on 700 series. There were 4/5 questions on 1600 configs. 

There were questions about the correct command syntax...but I had to
choose from a list of commands in the exibit. There were only 2
scenario questions, both were on FR. There were couple of AAA questions
and Network Security questions and 4 NAT questions.

I prepared with Paquet's BCRAN book from Cisco Press. I think I can
only expect 898 for 10 days prep :). Thanks to all great contributors
in this list. It was really helpful. I learnt a couple of things from
some of the threads, like I need to know about the 1600 configs, etc.
Also I should say, working with some of the products and hands on
experience really helps. 

Let's see how and when I am able to pass the other 2 exams to become a
CCNP. Any inputs on BSCN and Support exams welcome. 

Thanks
Sudarshan

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RE: Passed BCRAN [7:11122]

2001-07-06 Thread Buri, Heather H

Congrats George!  Don't dwell on it too much.  What I usually do is review
the areas I scored lower in to see where I went wrong, then start moving
forward to the next exam.  :-)  So which one is next for you?

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Passed today. A very near pass I must add. This has been the hardest test
for me so far. Please don't get me wrong I  am not trying to intimidate
anyone. Maybe I was unlucky and I got the hard test but let me say just
this: don't bother showing up at the test center unless you are VERY well
prepared.
I got a couple of poorly worded questions and one that was not in the exam
objectives.
I thought I was going to do better by I was wrong. Anyway a pass is pass no
matter the score (two down two to go).My method of preparing: CCNP Remote
Access Exam Certification Guide by Cisco Press and for testing Boson
exams.As always thank you group for your support.

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Passed BCRAN [7:11122]

2001-07-05 Thread George Yiannibas

Passed today. A very near pass I must add. This has been the hardest test
for me so far. Please don't get me wrong I  am not trying to intimidate
anyone. Maybe I was unlucky and I got the hard test but let me say just
this: don't bother showing up at the test center unless you are VERY well
prepared.
I got a couple of poorly worded questions and one that was not in the exam
objectives.
I thought I was going to do better by I was wrong. Anyway a pass is pass no
matter the score (two down two to go).My method of preparing: CCNP Remote
Access Exam Certification Guide by Cisco Press and for testing Boson
exams.As always thank you group for your support.

George Yiannibas
MCSE CCNA




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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread hal9001

How many stars does that rate on the badge.

You take fries with that..just practising.

Karl
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:46 PM
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> you need to be MCSE (McDonalds Certified Systems Engineer), or specialize
in
> chips technology.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hal9001
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03/07/01 13:35
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
> I think I'm going to give up and apply to McDonalds!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Buri, Heather H"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:04 PM
> Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > He must be a speed reader!  :-)  I need to take that course.
> >
> > Heather Buri
> > CSC Technology Services - Houston
> >
> > Phone: (713)-961-8592
> > Fax: (713)-961-8249
> > Mobile:
> > Alpha Page:
> >
> > Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd
> >   Suite 500
> >   Houston, TX 77056
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he
> done
> > each one in circa 8 secs
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ronald Regan.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001
> > 09:21:46
> >
> > Please respond to "Jayesh Patel"
> >
> > Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA)
> >
> > Subject:  Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of
> 930.
> >
> > He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
> > Switching in 9 min a score of 870.
> >
> > Regards
> > Jayesh Patel
> >
> > CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
> > Voice
> > Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for
> Voice
> > Access Solutions.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "hal9001"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
> > ISBN:007211908X
> > > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> > > offerings.  The IDG
> > >
> > > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just
> one
> > > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view
> but
> > also
> > > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
> > future
> > > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
> > >
> > > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers
> interpretation
> > of
> > > the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the
> exam so
> > > best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
> > >
> > > Karl
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Michael L. Williams"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> > > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello all..
> > > >
> > > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple
> of
> > > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
> > correct
> > > > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to
> write
> > some
> > > > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the
> Cisco
> > 700.
> > > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the
> 700
> > just
> > > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was
> nice).
> > I
> > > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
> > single,
> > > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not
> SOHO
> > and
> > > > takes a WIC

RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Heap, Neil

Who gives a sh*t how long it takes - isn't the point that you pass?

Which brings me onto another subject

I've met so many people who have passed NA/NP etc.. but get them into
the real world and they fall down like a sack of spuds..it's experience
that counts not just the certificate.

Just my 2 penneth (from the UK so can't use cents I'm afraid folks!)

> Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards
> 
> Neil
> __
> Neil Heap
> Infrastructure - Datacommunications
hNIKE European Operations Netherlands BV
*[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
__


-Original Message-
From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 6:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


Sha! My blind dog, Skip, passed the written in 34 seconds.

-Original Message-
From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


That reeks of BS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jayesh Patel
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for
Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001"
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just
one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers
interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam
so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple
of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the
Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was
nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not
SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both
of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the
different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not
more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port"
than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700
with so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the
real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me
with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam
while I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks

RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Jack Nalbandian

That's a BS (to the nth) Degree.  Some managers require it!

-Original Message-
From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


That reeks of BS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jayesh Patel
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001"
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
talking
> > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> >
> > Mike W.




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RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Charles Manafa

you need to be MCSE (McDonalds Certified Systems Engineer), or specialize in
chips technology. 

-Original Message-
From: hal9001
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03/07/01 13:35
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

I think I'm going to give up and apply to McDonalds!
- Original Message -
From: "Buri, Heather H" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> He must be a speed reader!  :-)  I need to take that course.
>
> Heather Buri
> CSC Technology Services - Houston
>
> Phone: (713)-961-8592
> Fax: (713)-961-8249
> Mobile:
> Alpha Page:
>
> Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he
done
> each one in circa 8 secs
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ronald Regan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001
> 09:21:46
>
> Please respond to "Jayesh Patel"
>
> Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA)
>
> Subject:  Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> Hi
>
> Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of
930.
>
> He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
> Switching in 9 min a score of 870.
>
> Regards
> Jayesh Patel
>
> CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
> Voice
> Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for
Voice
> Access Solutions.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "hal9001"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
> ISBN:007211908X
> > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> > offerings.  The IDG
> >
> > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just
one
> > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view
but
> also
> > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
> future
> > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
> >
> > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers
interpretation
> of
> > the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the
exam so
> > best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
> >
> > Karl
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael L. Williams"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > > Hello all..
> > >
> > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple
of
> > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
> correct
> > > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to
write
> some
> > > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> > >
> > > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the
Cisco
> 700.
> > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the
700
> just
> > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was
nice).
> I
> > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
> single,
> > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not
SOHO
> and
> > > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in
both of
> the
> > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
> hammered
> > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the
different
> > models
> > > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me
I
> tried
> > to
> > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not
more
> > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port"
than
I
> > did
> > > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that
there
> were
> > so
> > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series,
yet
> the
> > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
> believe
> > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700
with
> so
> > 

RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Steve Smith

Sha! My blind dog, Skip, passed the written in 34 seconds.

-Original Message-
From: William Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


That reeks of BS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jayesh Patel
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for
Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001"
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just
one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers
interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam
so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple
of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the
Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was
nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not
SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both
of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the
different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not
more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port"
than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700
with so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the
real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me
with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam
while I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
talking
> > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> >
> > Mike W.




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RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread William Gragido

That reeks of BS

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jayesh Patel
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 3:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001"
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
talking
> > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> >
> > Mike W.




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RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Robert Padjen

Thanks for the comment about the Sybex book. ;)

Note, there is a lot of commenting on the 'lack' of
700 series material on the RA exam. All RA books have
this material because it is in the objectives. Cisco
can, and does, change material from time to time, and
it seems clear that the 700 material was removed in
part - be thankful that it did. The platform really is
a hybrid, and there is little that the 800 or 1600
cannot provide for a reasonable price/performance.

Please do not be upset with the authors re the 700
material. We base the books on the objectives and our
experiences.



--- Raees Ahmed Shaikh  wrote:
> This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if
> he reads the question
> alone without answering them it will taken him more
> time than that. Perhaps
> you are talking about the real jet net.
> 
> No flames,
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min
> with a score of 930.
> 
> He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
> Switching in 9 min a score of 870.
> 
> Regards
> Jayesh Patel
> 
>
CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE
> written,CCNP + Voice
> Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise
> Business and CSE for Voice
> Access Solutions.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "hal9001" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> 
> 
> > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access
> Study Guide ISBN:007211908X
> > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the
> relevant Cisco Router
> > offerings.  The IDG
> >
> > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to
> not stick with just one
> > source but go to multiple sources not only to get
> a balanced view but also
> > to find other information omitted by another
> publisher/author.  The future
> > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present
> costs.
> >
> > After all, all these books are just an
> authors/publishers interpretation
> of
> > the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions
> you get in the exam so
> > best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
> >
> > Karl
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael L. Williams"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > > Hello all..
> > >
> > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a
> bad exam.  A couple of
> > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to
> have more than one
> correct
> > > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even
> took time to write some
> > > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> > >
> > > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge
> chapter on the Cisco
> 700.
> > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared
> down chapter on the 700
> just
> > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the
> exam (which was nice).
> I
> > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.
>  BOTH books had a
> single,
> > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying
> it's for branch not SOHO
> and
> > > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through
> all 4 quizzes in both of
> the
> > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions)
> and I kept getting
> hammered
> > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what
> interfaces the different
> > models
> > > had (something neither book had any details
> about).  Lucky for me I
> tried
> > to
> > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I
> got as many if not more
> > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a
> 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
> > did
> > > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm
> disappointed that there
> were
> > so
> > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to
> the 700 series, yet the
> > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned
> them  I can't
> believe
> > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy
> chapter to the 700 with so
> > few
> > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring
> the 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON
> > for
> > > making practice exams that not only are a good
> simulation of the real
> > exams
> > > but also covered material that exam creators
> did

RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Harrison, Michael

I think the main point of Mike W's message is that the Boson test is the
MOST accurate prep for the tests than any of the books.  I recently passed
the CID test and the Boson tests hammered Stratacom.  None of the books on
CID that I looked at to study mentioned Stratacom at all.  Granted that CID
is a 100 question test and the Stratacom questions were  This is ridicously
serious, are u joking I guess if he reads the question
> alone without answering them it will taken him more time than that.
Perhaps
> you are talking about the real jet net.
>
> No flames,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> Hi
>
> Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.
>
> He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
> Switching in 9 min a score of 870.
>
> Regards
> Jayesh Patel
>
> CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
Voice
> Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
> Access Solutions.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "hal9001"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
ISBN:007211908X
> > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> > offerings.  The IDG
> >
> > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
also
> > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
future
> > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
> >
> > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
> of
> > the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> > best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
> >
> > Karl
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael L. Williams"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > > Hello all..
> > >
> > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
> correct
> > > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
some
> > > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> > >
> > > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
> 700.
> > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
> just
> > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
> I
> > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
> single,
> > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
> and
> > > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
> the
> > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
> hammered
> > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> > models
> > > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
> tried
> > to
> > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not
more
> > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than
I
> > did
> > > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
> were
> > so
> > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
the
> > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
> believe
> > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with
so
> > few
> > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
BOSON
> > for
> > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> > exams
> > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
> their
> > > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
> 1600
> > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while
I
> > was
> > > practicing for it.
> > >
> > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
> talking
> > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> > >
> > > Mike W.
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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Circusnuts

His argument says 6 seconds @ best per question.

You be the judge...

- Original Message -
From: "Raees Ahmed Shaikh" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 5:43 AM
Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if he reads the question
> alone without answering them it will taken him more time than that.
Perhaps
> you are talking about the real jet net.
>
> No flames,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> Hi
>
> Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.
>
> He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
> Switching in 9 min a score of 870.
>
> Regards
> Jayesh Patel
>
> CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
Voice
> Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
> Access Solutions.
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "hal9001"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
ISBN:007211908X
> > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> > offerings.  The IDG
> >
> > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
also
> > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
future
> > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
> >
> > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
> of
> > the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> > best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
> >
> > Karl
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael L. Williams"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > > Hello all..
> > >
> > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
> correct
> > > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
some
> > > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> > >
> > > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
> 700.
> > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
> just
> > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
> I
> > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
> single,
> > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
> and
> > > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
> the
> > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
> hammered
> > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> > models
> > > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
> tried
> > to
> > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not
more
> > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than
I
> > did
> > > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
> were
> > so
> > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
the
> > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
> believe
> > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with
so
> > few
> > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
BOSON
> > for
> > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> > exams
> > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
> their
> > > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
> 1600
> > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while
I
> > was
> > > practicing for it.
> > >
> > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
> talking
> > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> > >
> > > Mike W.




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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Circusnuts

Aren't you the guy that did the FedEx commercials in the 80's :o)


- Original Message -
From: "Jayesh Patel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> Hi
>
> Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.
>
> He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
> Switching in 9 min a score of 870.
>
> Regards
> Jayesh Patel
>
> CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
Voice
> Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
> Access Solutions.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "hal9001"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
ISBN:007211908X
> > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> > offerings.  The IDG
> >
> > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
also
> > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
future
> > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
> >
> > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
> of
> > the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> > best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
> >
> > Karl
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael L. Williams"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > > Hello all..
> > >
> > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
> correct
> > > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
some
> > > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> > >
> > > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
> 700.
> > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
> just
> > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
> I
> > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
> single,
> > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
> and
> > > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
> the
> > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
> hammered
> > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> > models
> > > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
> tried
> > to
> > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not
more
> > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than
I
> > did
> > > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
> were
> > so
> > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
the
> > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
> believe
> > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with
so
> > few
> > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
BOSON
> > for
> > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> > exams
> > > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
> their
> > > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
> 1600
> > > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while
I
> > was
> > > practicing for it.
> > >
> > > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
> talking
> > > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> > >
> > > Mike W.




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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread hal9001

I think I'm going to give up and apply to McDonalds!
- Original Message -
From: "Buri, Heather H" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> He must be a speed reader!  :-)  I need to take that course.
>
> Heather Buri
> CSC Technology Services - Houston
>
> Phone: (713)-961-8592
> Fax: (713)-961-8249
> Mobile:
> Alpha Page:
>
> Mailing: 1360 Post Oak Blvd
>   Suite 500
>   Houston, TX 77056
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he
done
> each one in circa 8 secs
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ronald Regan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001
> 09:21:46
>
> Please respond to "Jayesh Patel"
>
> Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc:(bcc: Peter McCracken/DMR/CA)
>
> Subject:  Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> Hi
>
> Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.
>
> He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
> Switching in 9 min a score of 870.
>
> Regards
> Jayesh Patel
>
> CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
> Voice
> Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
> Access Solutions.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "hal9001"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
> Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
> ISBN:007211908X
> > has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> > offerings.  The IDG
> >
> > I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> > source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
> also
> > to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
> future
> > gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
> >
> > After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
> of
> > the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> > best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
> >
> > Karl
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Michael L. Williams"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> > Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
> >
> >
> > > Hello all..
> > >
> > > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
> correct
> > > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
> some
> > > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> > >
> > > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
> 700.
> > > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
> just
> > > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
> I
> > > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
> single,
> > > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
> and
> > > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
> the
> > > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
> hammered
> > > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> > models
> > > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
> tried
> > to
> > > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not
more
> > > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than
I
> > did
> > > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
> were
> > so
> > > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
> the
> > > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
> believe
> > > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with
> so
> > few
> > > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
> BOSON
> > for
> > > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> > exams
> > > b

RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Buri, Heather H

He must be a speed reader!  :-)  I need to take that course.  

Heather Buri   
CSC Technology Services - Houston

Phone:  (713)-961-8592
Fax:(713)-961-8249
Mobile: 
Alpha Page: 

Mailing:1360 Post Oak Blvd
  Suite 500
  Houston, TX 77056



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he done
each one in circa 8 secs


Regards,

Ronald Regan.






"Jayesh Patel" @groupstudy.com on 03/07/2001
09:21:46

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Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001"
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with
so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while
I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
talking
> > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> >
> > Mike W.
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RE: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Raees Ahmed Shaikh

This is ridicously serious, are u joking I guess if he reads the question
alone without answering them it will taken him more time than that. Perhaps
you are talking about the real jet net.

No flames,

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From: Jayesh Patel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tue, July 03, 2001 11:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
talking
> > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> >
> > Mike W.




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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thats impressive.. if he had 50 questions in his bcran test he done
each one in circa 8 secs


Regards,

Ronald Regan.






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Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP +
Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001"
To:
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide
ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but
also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The
future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write
some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet
the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with
so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO
BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while
I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
talking
> > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> >
> > Mike W.




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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-07-03 Thread Jayesh Patel

Hi

Just for you info my brother passed his BCRAN 7 min with a score of 930.

He passed his CIT in 5 mins at a score of 954 and
Switching in 9 min a score of 870.

Regards
Jayesh Patel

CNE,MCNE,MCP,MCP+Internet,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,CCIE written,CCNP + Voice
Access, CSE in Small Business,CSE in Enterprise Business and CSE for Voice
Access Solutions.

- Original Message -
From: "hal9001" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X
> has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
> offerings.  The IDG
>
> I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
> source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also
> to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The future
> gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.
>
> After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation
of
> the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
> best to cover ALL the bases if you can.
>
> Karl
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L. Williams"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
> Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]
>
>
> > Hello all..
> >
> > Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> > "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one
correct
> > answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write some
> > comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> >
> > One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco
700.
> > The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700
just
> > highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).
I
> > had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a
single,
> > small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO
and
> > takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of
the
> > Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting
hammered
> > with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
> models
> > had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I
tried
> to
> > take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
> > questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
> did
> > about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there
were
> so
> > many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the
> > Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't
believe
> > the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so
> few
> > questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON
> for
> > making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
> exams
> > but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in
their
> > own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with
1600
> > questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I
> was
> > practicing for it.
> >
> > Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group
talking
> > and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> >
> > Mike W.




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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-06-09 Thread hal9001

The Syngress Published book CCNP Remote Access Study Guide ISBN:007211908X
has an excellent section (Ch2) on ALL of the relevant Cisco Router
offerings.  The IDG

I find that its better, if you can afford it, to not stick with just one
source but go to multiple sources not only to get a balanced view but also
to find other information omitted by another publisher/author.  The future
gains always (hopefully) outweigh the present costs.

After all, all these books are just an authors/publishers interpretation of
the Exam Objectives.  Its pot luck what questions you get in the exam so
best to cover ALL the bases if you can.

Karl
- Original Message -
From: "Michael L. Williams" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 10:23 PM
Subject: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]


> Hello all..
>
> Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
> "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct
> answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write some
> comments and finished in 35 minutes.
>
> One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700.
> The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just
> highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).  I
> had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a single,
> small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and
> takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the
> Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered
> with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different
models
> had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I tried
to
> take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
> questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I
did
> about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were
so
> many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the
> Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't believe
> the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so
few
> questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON
for
> making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real
exams
> but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their
> own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600
> questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I
was
> practicing for it.
>
> Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!
>
> Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking
> and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
>
> Mike W.




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Re: PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-06-08 Thread Robert Padjen

If you look at the objectives for the exam and all of
the books, each spend a lot of effort on the 700
series. The beta and live exams that I've seen had a
lot (roughly 10). It would appear that with the death
of the product line they've killed the questions too.
;)


--- "Michael L. Williams"  wrote:
> Hello all..
> 
> Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad
> exam.  A couple of
> "vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have
> more than one correct
> answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even
> took time to write some
> comments and finished in 35 minutes.
> 
> One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge
> chapter on the Cisco 700.
> The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down
> chapter on the 700 just
> highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam
> (which was nice).  I
> had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series. 
> BOTH books had a single,
> small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's
> for branch not SOHO and
> takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4
> quizzes in both of the
> Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I
> kept getting hammered
> with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what
> interfaces the different models
> had (something neither book had any details about). 
> Lucky for me I tried to
> take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got
> as many if not more
> questions about "Which model of 1600 has a
> 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I did
> about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm
> disappointed that there were so
> many questions about the 1600 series compared to the
> 700 series, yet the
> Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned
> them  I can't believe
> the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy
> chapter to the 700 with so few
> questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the
> 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON for
> making practice exams that not only are a good
> simulation of the real exams
> but also covered material that exam creators didn't
> even include in their
> own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for
> hammering me with 1600
> questions and letting me get the info I needed for
> the real exam while I was
> practicing for it.
> 
> Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP 
> Woohoo!
> 
> Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people
> in the group talking
> and passing exams motivates me to keep going!
> 
> Mike W.
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PASSED BCRAN! + BIG gripe [7:7794]

2001-06-08 Thread Michael L. Williams

Hello all..

Passed the BCRAN with an 898 today.  not a bad exam.  A couple of
"vague" questions (or questions that seemed to have more than one correct
answer but only one answer was asked for).  Even took time to write some
comments and finished in 35 minutes.

One HUGE gripe:  The Cisco Press book had a huge chapter on the Cisco 700.
The Exam Cram Remote Access book had a pared down chapter on the 700 just
highlighting the stuff you need to know for the exam (which was nice).  I
had maybe 2 or 3 questions about the 700 series.  BOTH books had a single,
small paragraph on the 1600 series tho saying it's for branch not SOHO and
takes a WIC card.  THAT'S IT!  I went through all 4 quizzes in both of the
Boson BCRAN exam 1 and 2 (over 400 questions) and I kept getting hammered
with questions about the Cisco 1600 and what interfaces the different models
had (something neither book had any details about).  Lucky for me I tried to
take note, instead of blowing it off, because I got as many if not more
questions about "Which model of 1600 has a 56K/ISDN/Serial port" than I did
about the Cisco 700.  I have to say that I'm disappointed that there were so
many questions about the 1600 series compared to the 700 series, yet the
Cisco Press and Exam Cram book barely mentioned them  I can't believe
the Cisco Press book dedicated a very lengthy chapter to the 700 with so few
questions on the exam while virtually ignoring the 1600!  KUDOS TO BOSON for
making practice exams that not only are a good simulation of the real exams
but also covered material that exam creators didn't even include in their
own study book (Cisco!).  I owe my 898 to Boson for hammering me with 1600
questions and letting me get the info I needed for the real exam while I was
practicing for it.

Now on to Support for CCNP then CID for CCDP  Woohoo!

Thanks to everyone for the group.. seeing people in the group talking
and passing exams motivates me to keep going!

Mike W.




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Passed BCRAN today ... [7:2948]

2001-05-02 Thread Chris Haller

Just sqeaked by, but I passed !!!  1 more to go for
CCNP then the hard stuff begins !! :-)

I found the test to be a bit misleading.  Many of the
questions did not ask "enough" of a question to
actually give a difinitive answer, and 1 question on
x25 mappings  the answer WAS NOT EVEN LISTED 

I commented on that one and moved on.

Luck to all.

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Passed BCRAN Today

2001-03-08 Thread Jim Barksdale

Know your ISDN, Frame Relay, X.25, Dialer, and Access Routers.
Lots of fill in the blank, but, you get a list to choose from.
62 questions, I think 75 minutes, 706 to pass.
I used the Sybex Remote Access book and the Smart Certify CBT course.

On to BCSN

Jim

CCNA, CCDA

3 more to NP, 4 to DP.


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Passed BCRAN today

2001-03-01 Thread Kevin Welch

Thought I would drop a line letting you know that I passed my BCRAN exam
today, my final score was 849/1000.  I was suprised by the amount of design
oriented questions and there was a very large focus on isdn technology.  I
plan on completing the BSCN and CID exams over the enxt few months, maybe
then I can justify raising my rates as a consultant :-)

-- Kevin

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Passed BCRAN

2001-02-20 Thread Rah Sta

To All,


Took the BCRAN on Sunday and passed. It wasn't as hard as I thought it would 
be. I also studied hard for two days. The Cisco press book really help me. 
Especially the BCRAN Exan Certification Guide. Two down Two to go. PEACE



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Re: Passed BCRAN today... 3/4 CCNP Books you like for CIT??

2001-02-18 Thread GNOME

that book is good enough to pass...i just passed mine :)



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> I just want to share my good news, 808 on BCRAN.
>
> I will take CIT next to complete the CCNP!  I have Cisco Internetwork
> Troubleshooting by Chappel and Farkas.  Is there another book that would
> work for CIT and help with the CCIE written as well?  My plan is to begin
> immediately after CCNP to start the track to the CCIE.  From what I have
> read on the board I would think the Caslow book might be helpfull with
CIT.
> TIA,
> Tom
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Passed BCRAN today... 3/4 CCNP Books you like for CIT??

2001-02-16 Thread Tom Keough

I just want to share my good news, 808 on BCRAN.

I will take CIT next to complete the CCNP!  I have Cisco Internetwork
Troubleshooting by Chappel and Farkas.  Is there another book that would
work for CIT and help with the CCIE written as well?  My plan is to begin
immediately after CCNP to start the track to the CCIE.  From what I have
read on the board I would think the Caslow book might be helpfull with CIT.
TIA,
Tom

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Re: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-22 Thread Steve H

LoL.. Dan.. your memory is amazing!  I'll have to dig up a new one. Maybe
create something more appropriate to the times.

I'll work on it ;-)

-Steve-
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RE: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-22 Thread Daniel Cotts

Welcome back. Do you still use your ASCII art signature?

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 11:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)
> 
> 
> In my case.. 1 down, 3 to go..
> 
> Congrats Mark.. I just finally got myself back on the study 
> train myself,
> and took the BCMSN Switching test today. I've been out of the 
> study game,
> and out of GroupStudy for about a year now (Sorry guys & gals!!!) ;-)
> 
> Well.. I finally found the motivation again, and passing 
> todays test helped!
> I also found myself not studying as dilligently as I could 
> have. In the end,
> I made it thru on 2 things.  Personal experience and 2 days 
> of cramming with
> the Cisco Press BCMSN Exam Certification Guide.  I broke down 
> & bought it as
> a last minute desparation move, as the Cisco Press BCMSN 
> "course book" was
> putting me to sleep every day by chapter 2.. (Theory is 
> soo boring!!).
> 
> With only 2 days with the cert guide, I crammed the sample 
> test & read the
> chapter Q&A quizzes over & over.. and on the topics I didn't fully
> understand, I read over as much of the chapter as I could to 
> fill in the
> mental blanks.
> 
> I do think I got a bit lucky, as there were a few area's I 
> still feel weak
> in, but either got no questions on those area's, or barely 1 or 2.
> 
> So, the concensus is that BCRAN is the easiest? Interesting. I thought
> todays test was easier than I expected, but still enough to 
> cause a bead or
> 2 of sweat..  Personally, I know I'm horrible at things like 
> Async configs..
> but ISDN I find rather easy.
> 
> If anyone is still around from the last time I haunted the 
> list (Chuck..
> Tony.. Ozzie.. Paul.. anyone... Buehler.. Buehler.. ) they'll probably
> remember why.. but that was in another life ;-)
> 
> Interesting that everyone thinks CIT is the worst. 
> Personally, I'm setting
> aside 3 weeks hard study time for BSCN Routing as the 
> hardest. I'm on a
> tight personal goal schedule. 1 test every 2 weeks, but 
> again, 3 for BSCN.
> So, tomorrow I schedule the CIT and hit the books. I suspect I have an
> advantage, in that most of my experience is raw 
> troubleshooting. It's also
> mostly in routing, over switching, but the BSCN goes into a 
> depth I haven't
> learned from experience yet. So, I'm planning heavy studies 
> for that one.
> CIT I'm more secure about.  Hopefully, it's not overconfidence..
> 
> If all goes well.. we (my test partner) should see CCNP 
> accomplished by
> mid-March.  As she likes to say "Failure is not an option" 
> ;-) Then
> again.. one does not always need immediate gratification to 
> achieve success.
> But.. drive on we must!
> 
> Steve-H@ .. oh wait.. nevermind. Now it's just:
> --
> -
> Stephen E. Hildenbrand, CCNP2Be
> 
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hey Group,
> >
> Just wanted to share my victory today over the BCRAN. Went in very
> > unprepared  (first time going in feeling unsure) but still passed. I
> barely
> > studied for this one and my score reflected upon that but I 
> still knew my
> > stuff and passed. I have to agree with the masses when I 
> say that this
> test
> > was very, very easy. I wouldn't even say that this was a 
> 10th as hard as
> the
> > switching or routing 2.0's. Well, I got one more to go 
> (dreaded CIT) and
> then
> > I can change my signature (it's about time) from CCNA, 
> CCDA...to CCNP,
> CCDA.
> > God I can't wait.   =o)
> >
> > On a side note: The only thing I used to prepare for this test was
> Lammle's
> > Remote Access. I personally feel this book was great. I 
> barely studied and
> > got a 762. If I had put more time into it I'm sure his book 
> could have
> scored
> > me in the 900s. I recommend it to anybody pursuing the 
> BCRAN. Thanks all
> and
> > now it's time to start studying for the CIT (Feb. 
> 13...think I may change
> > that 13 though, just not a good number)...
> >
> > Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 3/4-NP (1 to go)
> >
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RE: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-21 Thread William E. Gragido

Oz has not posted on here in a LONG time man, I thought I was the only who
remembered.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Steve H
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 11:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)


In my case.. 1 down, 3 to go..

Congrats Mark.. I just finally got myself back on the study train myself,
and took the BCMSN Switching test today. I've been out of the study game,
and out of GroupStudy for about a year now (Sorry guys & gals!!!) ;-)

Well.. I finally found the motivation again, and passing todays test helped!
I also found myself not studying as dilligently as I could have. In the end,
I made it thru on 2 things.  Personal experience and 2 days of cramming with
the Cisco Press BCMSN Exam Certification Guide.  I broke down & bought it as
a last minute desparation move, as the Cisco Press BCMSN "course book" was
putting me to sleep every day by chapter 2.. (Theory is soo boring!!).

With only 2 days with the cert guide, I crammed the sample test & read the
chapter Q&A quizzes over & over.. and on the topics I didn't fully
understand, I read over as much of the chapter as I could to fill in the
mental blanks.

I do think I got a bit lucky, as there were a few area's I still feel weak
in, but either got no questions on those area's, or barely 1 or 2.

So, the concensus is that BCRAN is the easiest? Interesting. I thought
todays test was easier than I expected, but still enough to cause a bead or
2 of sweat..  Personally, I know I'm horrible at things like Async configs..
but ISDN I find rather easy.

If anyone is still around from the last time I haunted the list (Chuck..
Tony.. Ozzie.. Paul.. anyone... Buehler.. Buehler.. ) they'll probably
remember why.. but that was in another life ;-)

Interesting that everyone thinks CIT is the worst. Personally, I'm setting
aside 3 weeks hard study time for BSCN Routing as the hardest. I'm on a
tight personal goal schedule. 1 test every 2 weeks, but again, 3 for BSCN.
So, tomorrow I schedule the CIT and hit the books. I suspect I have an
advantage, in that most of my experience is raw troubleshooting. It's also
mostly in routing, over switching, but the BSCN goes into a depth I haven't
learned from experience yet. So, I'm planning heavy studies for that one.
CIT I'm more secure about.  Hopefully, it's not overconfidence..

If all goes well.. we (my test partner) should see CCNP accomplished by
mid-March.  As she likes to say "Failure is not an option" ;-) Then
again.. one does not always need immediate gratification to achieve success.
But.. drive on we must!

Steve-H@ .. oh wait.. nevermind. Now it's just:
--
-
Stephen E. Hildenbrand, CCNP2Be


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey Group,
>Just wanted to share my victory today over the BCRAN. Went in very
> unprepared  (first time going in feeling unsure) but still passed. I
barely
> studied for this one and my score reflected upon that but I still knew my
> stuff and passed. I have to agree with the masses when I say that this
test
> was very, very easy. I wouldn't even say that this was a 10th as hard as
the
> switching or routing 2.0's. Well, I got one more to go (dreaded CIT) and
then
> I can change my signature (it's about time) from CCNA, CCDA...to CCNP,
CCDA.
> God I can't wait.   =o)
>
> On a side note: The only thing I used to prepare for this test was
Lammle's
> Remote Access. I personally feel this book was great. I barely studied and
> got a 762. If I had put more time into it I'm sure his book could have
scored
> me in the 900s. I recommend it to anybody pursuing the BCRAN. Thanks all
and
> now it's time to start studying for the CIT (Feb. 13...think I may change
> that 13 though, just not a good number)...
>
> Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 3/4-NP (1 to go)
>
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Re: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-21 Thread Steve H

In my case.. 1 down, 3 to go..

Congrats Mark.. I just finally got myself back on the study train myself,
and took the BCMSN Switching test today. I've been out of the study game,
and out of GroupStudy for about a year now (Sorry guys & gals!!!) ;-)

Well.. I finally found the motivation again, and passing todays test helped!
I also found myself not studying as dilligently as I could have. In the end,
I made it thru on 2 things.  Personal experience and 2 days of cramming with
the Cisco Press BCMSN Exam Certification Guide.  I broke down & bought it as
a last minute desparation move, as the Cisco Press BCMSN "course book" was
putting me to sleep every day by chapter 2.. (Theory is soo boring!!).

With only 2 days with the cert guide, I crammed the sample test & read the
chapter Q&A quizzes over & over.. and on the topics I didn't fully
understand, I read over as much of the chapter as I could to fill in the
mental blanks.

I do think I got a bit lucky, as there were a few area's I still feel weak
in, but either got no questions on those area's, or barely 1 or 2.

So, the concensus is that BCRAN is the easiest? Interesting. I thought
todays test was easier than I expected, but still enough to cause a bead or
2 of sweat..  Personally, I know I'm horrible at things like Async configs..
but ISDN I find rather easy.

If anyone is still around from the last time I haunted the list (Chuck..
Tony.. Ozzie.. Paul.. anyone... Buehler.. Buehler.. ) they'll probably
remember why.. but that was in another life ;-)

Interesting that everyone thinks CIT is the worst. Personally, I'm setting
aside 3 weeks hard study time for BSCN Routing as the hardest. I'm on a
tight personal goal schedule. 1 test every 2 weeks, but again, 3 for BSCN.
So, tomorrow I schedule the CIT and hit the books. I suspect I have an
advantage, in that most of my experience is raw troubleshooting. It's also
mostly in routing, over switching, but the BSCN goes into a depth I haven't
learned from experience yet. So, I'm planning heavy studies for that one.
CIT I'm more secure about.  Hopefully, it's not overconfidence..

If all goes well.. we (my test partner) should see CCNP accomplished by
mid-March.  As she likes to say "Failure is not an option" ;-) Then
again.. one does not always need immediate gratification to achieve success.
But.. drive on we must!

Steve-H@ .. oh wait.. nevermind. Now it's just:
--
-
Stephen E. Hildenbrand, CCNP2Be


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey Group,
>Just wanted to share my victory today over the BCRAN. Went in very
> unprepared  (first time going in feeling unsure) but still passed. I
barely
> studied for this one and my score reflected upon that but I still knew my
> stuff and passed. I have to agree with the masses when I say that this
test
> was very, very easy. I wouldn't even say that this was a 10th as hard as
the
> switching or routing 2.0's. Well, I got one more to go (dreaded CIT) and
then
> I can change my signature (it's about time) from CCNA, CCDA...to CCNP,
CCDA.
> God I can't wait.   =o)
>
> On a side note: The only thing I used to prepare for this test was
Lammle's
> Remote Access. I personally feel this book was great. I barely studied and
> got a 762. If I had put more time into it I'm sure his book could have
scored
> me in the 900s. I recommend it to anybody pursuing the BCRAN. Thanks all
and
> now it's time to start studying for the CIT (Feb. 13...think I may change
> that 13 though, just not a good number)...
>
> Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 3/4-NP (1 to go)
>
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Re: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-19 Thread Traceroute

congratlations!Just give it your all on CIT and you will pass... I am
shooting for CCDA then CID for CCDP so I can tag CCNP and CCDP to myself. It
has proven to be rewarding so why not. Good Luck in your adventures..

George Murphy, CCNP

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 1:07 AM
Subject: 3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)


> Hey Group,
>Just wanted to share my victory today over the BCRAN. Went in very
> unprepared  (first time going in feeling unsure) but still passed. I
barely
> studied for this one and my score reflected upon that but I still knew my
> stuff and passed. I have to agree with the masses when I say that this
test
> was very, very easy. I wouldn't even say that this was a 10th as hard as
the
> switching or routing 2.0's. Well, I got one more to go (dreaded CIT) and
then
> I can change my signature (it's about time) from CCNA, CCDA...to CCNP,
CCDA.
> God I can't wait.   =o)
>
> On a side note: The only thing I used to prepare for this test was
Lammle's
> Remote Access. I personally feel this book was great. I barely studied and
> got a 762. If I had put more time into it I'm sure his book could have
scored
> me in the 900s. I recommend it to anybody pursuing the BCRAN. Thanks all
and
> now it's time to start studying for the CIT (Feb. 13...think I may change
> that 13 though, just not a good number)...
>
> Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 3/4-NP (1 to go)
>
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3 down, 1 to go...(passed BCRAN)

2001-01-19 Thread NeoLink2000

Hey Group,
   Just wanted to share my victory today over the BCRAN. Went in very 
unprepared  (first time going in feeling unsure) but still passed. I barely 
studied for this one and my score reflected upon that but I still knew my 
stuff and passed. I have to agree with the masses when I say that this test 
was very, very easy. I wouldn't even say that this was a 10th as hard as the 
switching or routing 2.0's. Well, I got one more to go (dreaded CIT) and then 
I can change my signature (it's about time) from CCNA, CCDA...to CCNP, CCDA. 
God I can't wait.   =o)

On a side note: The only thing I used to prepare for this test was Lammle's 
Remote Access. I personally feel this book was great. I barely studied and 
got a 762. If I had put more time into it I'm sure his book could have scored 
me in the 900s. I recommend it to anybody pursuing the BCRAN. Thanks all and 
now it's time to start studying for the CIT (Feb. 13...think I may change 
that 13 though, just not a good number)...

Mark Z. CCNA, CCDA, 3/4-NP (1 to go)

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Passed BCRAN

2001-01-18 Thread Medley, Tim

I passed my BCRAN today on the first try. Thanks to all who have
contributed.

I used on the job knowledge, the McGraw Hill (Thomas) BCRAN Book, and the
Cisco Press BCRAN book in combination with the COLT BCRAN practice tests.

I have seen alot of mixed feelings over the COLT tests, I had two questions
that were both on the COLT test and the real exam.

If you don't use async lines and modems alot in the field definately study
up on modem configuration, autoconfig and modemcap areas. I got hammered on
this stuff.

Tim

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I see and I believe
I do and I understand
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Passed BCRAN

2001-01-12 Thread Steven Dangerfield

All,

Passed BCRAN today ! just over 800, Not full marks but good enough to pass !

Thanks to the group !

Steve

Steven Dangerfield, Network Engineer/Analyst
B.Eng, CCNA, CCSA

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Re: Passed BCRAN this morning

2000-12-07 Thread RAUL RENTERIA


Congrats William I 'm taking the test next week, & it would be great 
if you can post the tools you used to prepare for this test.  Thank you 
ahead of time

Raul.

>From: "william" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Passed BCRAN this morning
>Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:36:23 +0800
>
>Dear all
>
>
>Thanks for you guy's infomation.
>
>Keep it up.
>
>Whoever want my study notes, pls feel free to contact me.
>
>
>
>William
>
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passed BCRAN

2000-12-06 Thread jack




Hi 
I've just passed BCRAN and I want to thank all of 
you for your help! 
 
One more to go : CIT
 
 
Jack Svolakis


Passed BCRAN this morning

2000-12-05 Thread william

Dear all


Thanks for you guy's infomation.

Keep it up.

Whoever want my study notes, pls feel free to contact me.



William



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Passed BCRAN,now on to support

2000-12-03 Thread Zhang Jin

Dear Group,

I just want to say thanks to everybody helped me for my bcran exam prep.I
passed the exam last Saturday. Now 3 finished,1 more to go.I will be
appreciated should you give me some technical tips or exam advice about
support 2.0.

I use CIT 4.0 Syngress Media Book,if it enough for me to pass support 2.0
test.

Dean


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Re: passed bcran

2000-11-30 Thread Tony van Ree

Raheem,

I only had the BRCAN book to study and it covered all you need to know.  The thing is 
to know all what is in the book. I found that in everyday life the stuff in the BCRAN 
was the most useful of all the exams.

Then again I guess that depends on what you do and the sort of networks you run.  Each 
topic had its place.



Teunis.
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Thursday, November 30, 2000 at 11:41:31 AM, Rah Sta wrote:

> George,
> 
> What did you use for study material? And if you use the Cisco BCRAN book, 
> were most of the things in the book covered on the exam? What do you mean by 
> product description? PEACE
> 
> 
> 
> Raheem
> 
> 
> >From: George Kadeishvili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: George Kadeishvili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: passed bcran
> >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:36:53 +0400
> >
> >Hi all!
> >Passed bcran with 954. Thanks to all.
> >A weird thing - lot of stuff about product description. Same was on
> >bcmsn.
> >Should i expect the same on bscn?
> >George
> >
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Re: passed bcran

2000-11-30 Thread Rah Sta

George,

What did you use for study material? And if you use the Cisco BCRAN book, 
were most of the things in the book covered on the exam? What do you mean by 
product description? PEACE



Raheem


>From: George Kadeishvili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: George Kadeishvili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: passed bcran
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:36:53 +0400
>
>Hi all!
>Passed bcran with 954. Thanks to all.
>A weird thing - lot of stuff about product description. Same was on
>bcmsn.
>Should i expect the same on bscn?
>George
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Re: passed bcran

2000-11-30 Thread Rah Sta

George,

What did you use for study material? And if you use the Cisco BCRAN book, 
were most of the things in the book covered on the exam? What do you mean by 
product description? PEACE



Raheem


>From: George Kadeishvili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: George Kadeishvili <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: passed bcran
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:36:53 +0400
>
>Hi all!
>Passed bcran with 954. Thanks to all.
>A weird thing - lot of stuff about product description. Same was on
>bcmsn.
>Should i expect the same on bscn?
>George
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Re: passed bcran

2000-11-30 Thread George Kadeishvili

Thanks!
I used bcran e-learning thing by cisco, syngress book and boson tests.
boson test #1 is good. #2 is almoust the same.
DDR, frame relay, ISDN. not much of x25, nat and aaa. lot of product. two-minute drills
from syngress book are good.
Regards
George

PYF wrote:

> George,
> Congratulations!
> For the BSCN I have taken, only one to two questions are related to product
> description  and the rest are mainly OSPF & BGP stuff (more than 50%).
> So, study hard for the above two topics (but don't forget EIGRP!!!).
> I am going to take BCRAN next week, would you mind telling me what resources
> you used for preparing the exam. Thanks.
> - PYF
>
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> > Hi all!
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> > bcmsn.
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Re: passed bcran

2000-11-30 Thread PYF

George,
Congratulations!
For the BSCN I have taken, only one to two questions are related to product
description  and the rest are mainly OSPF & BGP stuff (more than 50%).
So, study hard for the above two topics (but don't forget EIGRP!!!).
I am going to take BCRAN next week, would you mind telling me what resources
you used for preparing the exam. Thanks.
- PYF

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passed bcran

2000-11-30 Thread George Kadeishvili

Hi all!
Passed bcran with 954. Thanks to all.
A weird thing - lot of stuff about product description. Same was on
bcmsn.
Should i expect the same on bscn?
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RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-21 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

1-1603
2-2521
2-2503
1-7000

Its a group effort me and my study group.. Do you guys think this is good
enough?

-Original Message-
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Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN


Kevin,

Lucky you six routers. I be lucky to get two. So what are those six routers.
Have fun. PEACE


   Raheem


>From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Rah Sta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:21:10 -0500
>
>No hands on, I just ordered my lab recently form Ebay.. I got six routers
>it
>should be here by next week.. I plan to go crazy with my labs in order to
>prepare for my CCNP/CCIE certifications / new job hopefully..
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 6:19 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>Did you have any hands on? I plan on buying two router. maybe a 2502 and
>2501 or 2503. Thanks.
>
>
>  Raheem
>
>
> >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Rah Sta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
> >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:00:27 -0500
> >
> >Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherine Paquet , Boson Test #1, Studied hard
> >for
> >two weeks non stop and passed!!!
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:51 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
> >
> >
> >Kevin,
> >
> >What did you use to help you pass the BCRAN exam? Thamk you.
> >
> >
> >  Raheem
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Passed BCRAN..  need help for BCSN
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:50:49 -0500
> > >
> > >Hello Cisco Lovers,
> > >
> > >thanks to all your wonderful posts,
> > >I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
> > >resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press
> > >that
> > >is currently out of stock...
> > >
> > >Please Advise,
> > >
> > >Kevin
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RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-21 Thread Rah Sta

Kevin,

Lucky you six routers. I be lucky to get two. So what are those six routers. 
Have fun. PEACE


   Raheem


>From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Rah Sta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 18:21:10 -0500
>
>No hands on, I just ordered my lab recently form Ebay.. I got six routers 
>it
>should be here by next week.. I plan to go crazy with my labs in order to
>prepare for my CCNP/CCIE certifications / new job hopefully..
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 6:19 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>Did you have any hands on? I plan on buying two router. maybe a 2502 and
>2501 or 2503. Thanks.
>
>
>  Raheem
>
>
> >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Rah Sta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
> >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:00:27 -0500
> >
> >Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherine Paquet , Boson Test #1, Studied hard
> >for
> >two weeks non stop and passed!!!
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:51 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
> >
> >
> >Kevin,
> >
> >What did you use to help you pass the BCRAN exam? Thamk you.
> >
> >
> >  Raheem
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Passed BCRAN..  need help for BCSN
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:50:49 -0500
> > >
> > >Hello Cisco Lovers,
> > >
> > >thanks to all your wonderful posts,
> > >I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
> > >resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press
> > >that
> > >is currently out of stock...
> > >
> > >Please Advise,
> > >
> > >Kevin
> > >
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Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-20 Thread Frank

In the book you mentioned ,i found many info about 700 router and ISDN,so i
worry if i don''t have any hands on,
could i pass it ?Now i just have a 3640 with a 8AM module ,so what kind of
test do you think will be helpful for me to pass it ?

thanks

frank
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it
> should be here by next week.. I plan to go crazy with my labs in order to
> prepare for my CCNP/CCIE certifications / new job hopefully..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 6:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> Did you have any hands on? I plan on buying two router. maybe a 2502 and
> 2501 or 2503. Thanks.
>
>
>  Raheem
>
>
> >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Rah Sta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
> >Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:00:27 -0500
> >
> >Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherine Paquet , Boson Test #1, Studied hard
> >for
> >two weeks non stop and passed!!!
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:51 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
> >
> >
> >Kevin,
> >
> >What did you use to help you pass the BCRAN exam? Thamk you.
> >
> >
> >  Raheem
> >
> >
> > >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Passed BCRAN..  need help for BCSN
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:50:49 -0500
> > >
> > >Hello Cisco Lovers,
> > >
> > >thanks to all your wonderful posts,
> > >I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
> > >resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press
> > >that
> > >is currently out of stock...
> > >
> > >Please Advise,
> > >
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RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-20 Thread Rah Sta

Kevin,

Did you have any hands on? I plan on buying two router. maybe a 2502 and 
2501 or 2503. Thanks.


 Raheem


>From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Rah Sta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:00:27 -0500
>
>Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherine Paquet , Boson Test #1, Studied hard 
>for
>two weeks non stop and passed!!!
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:51 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>What did you use to help you pass the BCRAN exam? Thamk you.
>
>
>  Raheem
>
>
> >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Passed BCRAN..  need help for BCSN
> >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:50:49 -0500
> >
> >Hello Cisco Lovers,
> >
> >thanks to all your wonderful posts,
> >I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
> >resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press
> >that
> >is currently out of stock...
> >
> >Please Advise,
> >
> >Kevin
> >
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RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-20 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

No hands on, I just ordered my lab recently form Ebay.. I got six routers it
should be here by next week.. I plan to go crazy with my labs in order to
prepare for my CCNP/CCIE certifications / new job hopefully..


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 6:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN


Kevin,

Did you have any hands on? I plan on buying two router. maybe a 2502 and
2501 or 2503. Thanks.


 Raheem


>From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Rah Sta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:00:27 -0500
>
>Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherine Paquet , Boson Test #1, Studied hard
>for
>two weeks non stop and passed!!!
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Rah Sta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 3:51 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN
>
>
>Kevin,
>
>What did you use to help you pass the BCRAN exam? Thamk you.
>
>
>  Raheem
>
>
> >From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Passed BCRAN..  need help for BCSN
> >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:50:49 -0500
> >
> >Hello Cisco Lovers,
> >
> >thanks to all your wonderful posts,
> >I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
> >resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press
> >that
> >is currently out of stock...
> >
> >Please Advise,
> >
> >Kevin
> >
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RE: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-20 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherine Paquet , Boson Test #1, Studied hard for
two weeks non stop and passed!!!

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Kevin,

What did you use to help you pass the BCRAN exam? Thamk you.


 Raheem


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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Passed BCRAN..  need help for BCSN
>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:50:49 -0500
>
>Hello Cisco Lovers,
>
>thanks to all your wonderful posts,
>I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
>resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press
>that
>is currently out of stock...
>
>Please Advise,
>
>Kevin
>
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Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-20 Thread Rah Sta

Kevin,

What did you use to help you pass the BCRAN exam? Thamk you.


 Raheem


>From: "Kevin O'Gilvie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Passed BCRAN..  need help for BCSN
>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 15:50:49 -0500
>
>Hello Cisco Lovers,
>
>thanks to all your wonderful posts,
>I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
>resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press 
>that
>is currently out of stock...
>
>Please Advise,
>
>Kevin
>
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Re: Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-18 Thread nevsaynev

Halabi's BGP study guide and OSPF study guide is a must!

You can find them on CCO. It's white paper, u can search for them.

Good Luck.
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Passed BCRAN.. need help for BCSN

2000-11-17 Thread Kevin O'Gilvie

Hello Cisco Lovers,

thanks to all your wonderful posts,
I passed my second exam on the road to CCNP, I need some links for BCSN
resources due to the fact that I am waiting on my book from Cisco Press that
is currently out of stock...

Please Advise,

Kevin


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Re: Passed BCRAN

2000-11-08 Thread STRAND Scott

Anton,
I had 1 (easy) question on the 700 series.

Good luck,
Scott

Anton Khan wrote:

> Scott,
>
> I am studying for the BCRAN right now and there is one issue that
> contiues to puzzle me.  Do we have to be familiar with the 700 series
> routers or not.  I figure anyone who has done the BCRAN recently would be in
> the best position to answer this question so hopefully you or someone from
> the study group will add their two cents.
>
> For what it's worth there are a lot of really bright and talented people on
> this study group.  It is a great resource for any up and coming CCNP or
> CCIE.
>
> Anton
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Scott,
>
> Thanks for the info. Were and how much is the one week Mentortech class
> is.
> What do you mean by archives? PEACE
>
>  Raheem
>
> >From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Passed BCRAN
> >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:48 -0500
> >
> >Passed BCRAN last friday with a score of 909 out of 1000. Here is how I
>
> >passed:
> >
> >Read Cisco-press book by Catherine Paquet (Good, gives alot of
> information)
> >Read McGraw-Hill book by Thomas & Quiggle (Also good, easier to read)
> >Used Boson practice test 1. (Helpful)
> >Took the one week training class at Mentortech. Mentor always does a
> great
> >job and the instructor (Steve Daleo) was excellent.
> >
> >The archives are correct as to what to study, ISDN (BRI&PRI), Async
> dialup,
> >PPP, TACACS+, NAT, etc.
> >
> >This was the easiest of the three CCNP tests I have passed (ACRC,
> BCMSN,
> >BCRAN). They give you a list of commands (About 40) that
> >you can choose from for the fill in the blank questions.
> >
> >Three down, one (CIT) to go. I'll check the archives for CIT hints and
> if
> >the BOSON tests were good for CIT.
> >
> >--Scott
> >
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Re: Passed BCRAN

2000-11-07 Thread Eric Fisher

There are definitely some questions on the 700.  I don't remember how many
but I would study it.


Eric
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> Scott,
>
> I am studying for the BCRAN right now and there is one issue that
> contiues to puzzle me.  Do we have to be familiar with the 700 series
> routers or not.  I figure anyone who has done the BCRAN recently would be
in
> the best position to answer this question so hopefully you or someone from
> the study group will add their two cents.
>
> For what it's worth there are a lot of really bright and talented people
on
> this study group.  It is a great resource for any up and coming CCNP or
> CCIE.
>
> Anton
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rah Sta
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 11/7/00 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN
>
> Scott,
>
> Thanks for the info. Were and how much is the one week Mentortech class
> is.
> What do you mean by archives? PEACE
>
>
>
>          Raheem
>
>
> >From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Passed BCRAN
> >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:48 -0500
> >
> >Passed BCRAN last friday with a score of 909 out of 1000. Here is how I
>
> >passed:
> >
> >Read Cisco-press book by Catherine Paquet (Good, gives alot of
> information)
> >Read McGraw-Hill book by Thomas & Quiggle (Also good, easier to read)
> >Used Boson practice test 1. (Helpful)
> >Took the one week training class at Mentortech. Mentor always does a
> great
> >job and the instructor (Steve Daleo) was excellent.
> >
> >The archives are correct as to what to study, ISDN (BRI&PRI), Async
> dialup,
> >PPP, TACACS+, NAT, etc.
> >
> >This was the easiest of the three CCNP tests I have passed (ACRC,
> BCMSN,
> >BCRAN). They give you a list of commands (About 40) that
> >you can choose from for the fill in the blank questions.
> >
> >Three down, one (CIT) to go. I'll check the archives for CIT hints and
> if
> >the BOSON tests were good for CIT.
> >
> >--Scott
> >
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RE: Passed BCRAN

2000-11-07 Thread Anton Khan

Scott,  

I am studying for the BCRAN right now and there is one issue that 
contiues to puzzle me.  Do we have to be familiar with the 700 series
routers or not.  I figure anyone who has done the BCRAN recently would be in
the best position to answer this question so hopefully you or someone from
the study group will add their two cents.

For what it's worth there are a lot of really bright and talented people on
this study group.  It is a great resource for any up and coming CCNP or
CCIE.

Anton





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Sent: 11/7/00 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: Passed BCRAN

Scott,

Thanks for the info. Were and how much is the one week Mentortech class
is. 
What do you mean by archives? PEACE



 Raheem


>From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Passed BCRAN
>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:48 -0500
>
>Passed BCRAN last friday with a score of 909 out of 1000. Here is how I

>passed:
>
>Read Cisco-press book by Catherine Paquet (Good, gives alot of
information)
>Read McGraw-Hill book by Thomas & Quiggle (Also good, easier to read)
>Used Boson practice test 1. (Helpful)
>Took the one week training class at Mentortech. Mentor always does a
great 
>job and the instructor (Steve Daleo) was excellent.
>
>The archives are correct as to what to study, ISDN (BRI&PRI), Async
dialup, 
>PPP, TACACS+, NAT, etc.
>
>This was the easiest of the three CCNP tests I have passed (ACRC,
BCMSN, 
>BCRAN). They give you a list of commands (About 40) that
>you can choose from for the fill in the blank questions.
>
>Three down, one (CIT) to go. I'll check the archives for CIT hints and
if 
>the BOSON tests were good for CIT.
>
>--Scott
>
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Re: Passed BCRAN

2000-11-07 Thread Rah Sta

Scott,

Thanks for the info. Were and how much is the one week Mentortech class is. 
What do you mean by archives? PEACE



 Raheem


>From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Passed BCRAN
>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:48 -0500
>
>Passed BCRAN last friday with a score of 909 out of 1000. Here is how I 
>passed:
>
>Read Cisco-press book by Catherine Paquet (Good, gives alot of information)
>Read McGraw-Hill book by Thomas & Quiggle (Also good, easier to read)
>Used Boson practice test 1. (Helpful)
>Took the one week training class at Mentortech. Mentor always does a great 
>job and the instructor (Steve Daleo) was excellent.
>
>The archives are correct as to what to study, ISDN (BRI&PRI), Async dialup, 
>PPP, TACACS+, NAT, etc.
>
>This was the easiest of the three CCNP tests I have passed (ACRC, BCMSN, 
>BCRAN). They give you a list of commands (About 40) that
>you can choose from for the fill in the blank questions.
>
>Three down, one (CIT) to go. I'll check the archives for CIT hints and if 
>the BOSON tests were good for CIT.
>
>--Scott
>
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Re: Passed BCRAN

2000-11-07 Thread STRAND Scott

Raheem,
You can check out the mentortech classes at www.mentortech.com. (I am not an employee 
of Mentortech, but I do recommend them)
The archives are on the groupstudy website. Instead of asking the same question over 
and over it is a good idea to check the website
first.

--Scott

Rah Sta wrote:

> Scott,
>
> Thanks for the info. Were and how much is the one week Mentortech class is.
> What do you mean by archives? PEACE
>
>  Raheem
>
> >From: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: STRAND Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Passed BCRAN
> >Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:49:48 -0500
> >
> >Passed BCRAN last friday with a score of 909 out of 1000. Here is how I
> >passed:
> >
> >Read Cisco-press book by Catherine Paquet (Good, gives alot of information)
> >Read McGraw-Hill book by Thomas & Quiggle (Also good, easier to read)
> >Used Boson practice test 1. (Helpful)
> >Took the one week training class at Mentortech. Mentor always does a great
> >job and the instructor (Steve Daleo) was excellent.
> >
> >The archives are correct as to what to study, ISDN (BRI&PRI), Async dialup,
> >PPP, TACACS+, NAT, etc.
> >
> >This was the easiest of the three CCNP tests I have passed (ACRC, BCMSN,
> >BCRAN). They give you a list of commands (About 40) that
> >you can choose from for the fill in the blank questions.
> >
> >Three down, one (CIT) to go. I'll check the archives for CIT hints and if
> >the BOSON tests were good for CIT.
> >
> >--Scott
> >
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Passed BCRAN

2000-11-06 Thread STRAND Scott

Passed BCRAN last friday with a score of 909 out of 1000. Here is how I passed:

Read Cisco-press book by Catherine Paquet (Good, gives alot of information)
Read McGraw-Hill book by Thomas & Quiggle (Also good, easier to read)
Used Boson practice test 1. (Helpful)
Took the one week training class at Mentortech. Mentor always does a great job and the 
instructor (Steve Daleo) was excellent.

The archives are correct as to what to study, ISDN (BRI&PRI), Async dialup, PPP, 
TACACS+, NAT, etc.

This was the easiest of the three CCNP tests I have passed (ACRC, BCMSN, BCRAN). They 
give you a list of commands (About 40) that
you can choose from for the fill in the blank questions.

Three down, one (CIT) to go. I'll check the archives for CIT hints and if the BOSON 
tests were good for CIT.

--Scott

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Passed BCRAN was RE: Recommended Books for BCMSN & BCRAN

2000-10-31 Thread Jon . E . Gudmundsson

Take a look at the archives about BCMSN. There was a message from me 2
months ago about BCMSN books. 
I passed BCRAN yesterday and here are the studymaterial that I used:
Books:
- Building Cisco Remote access Networks by Pacquet et al. Cisco press. It is
good to have for the exam bechause it is based on the BCRAN course and it
helps you to consentrate on the right subjects. 
- BCRAN Building Cisco Remote access networks by Tom Thomas II.Macraw Hill
It is an excellent book and much better than his BCMSN book. It explains
everything in details.
- Cisco IOS 12.0 Dial solutions. Cisco Press. This book contains everything
about dial up networking. I am definetly going to read it again for the
CCIE.
- Remote Access Exam Cram. It was not as good as the Exam Cram for the BCMSN
Other materials
-Papers from www.cisco.com
- Cramsession from www.cramsession.com. It was excellent paper to brush up
few hours for the exam and much better than the cramsession paper for BCMSN.
- Experience. On the job experience. I could set up a lab with 1 3620 one
800, 2500 and 2600 to play with.
Hope this can help somebody on the list
Regards
Jon Eggert Gudmundsson
MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,Switching 2.0,Remote Access
Network Administrator
Icelandic Banks Data Center


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I have that book as well.  Just haven't cracked it open yet.

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For BCMSN a CCSI recommended Cisco CCIE Lan Switching.
--- Sam Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't got to the switch exam yet but I have been
> studying for the bcsn.
> The books I am using are Doyle's tcp/ip, advance ip
> routing by slattery,
> internet routing architecture by halabi, and the
> caslow book.  I am using
> the CCIE all in one study guide for labs.
> 
> HTH
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Robert O'Brien
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> Subject: Re: Recommended Books for BCMSN & BCRAN
> 
> 
> Kevin,
> 
> I am still hunting, that is how I knew about the
> stuff in the archives.
> Hopefully someone else in the group has some
> thoughts, but I may go the
> cisco press CCNP
> Prep library 1587050137 when it is available. I have
> heard the Sybex stuff
> is supposed
> to be OK.
> 
> Sorry I couldn't help more.
> 
> Robert
> 
> Kevin wrote:
> 
> > Robert,
> >
> > First, thank you very much for your advise. You
> just mentioned the two
> > Thomas books are not adequate, then what kind of
> books do you recommend
> for
> > the above two subjects? Cisco Press? Sybex? Or
> ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kevin
> >
> > "Robert O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > In the archives of September and October the
> Thomas II books you mention
> > > both got a
> > > hammering for the number of mistakes they
> contained and the lower
> > > standards than
> > > experienced in the earlier series of books.
> > >
> > > Rob
> > > CCNA
> > > Canberra Australia
> > >
> > > Kevin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Please comment whether the books mentioned are
> enough/good for the
> > > > examinations.
> > > >
> > > > - BCMSN : Building Cisco Multilayer Switching
> Networks / Thomas M.
> > Thomas
> > > > II, John C. Bass, James E. Robinson III
> (McGraw-Hill)
> > > > - BCRAN : Building Cisco Remote Access
> Networks / Thomas M. Thomas II,
> > Adam
> > > > Quiggle (McGraw-Hill)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
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Just passed BCRAN!

2000-10-06 Thread Sgp YH

Dear all
Just want to thank all the great folks in this list. 
Nanaged to pass BCRAN with a score of 864.  Prepared
the exam using Cisco Press's BCRAN.  Do take note of
the product specific questions, eg 700, 800, 1000,
1600, 2500, 3600, etc.

Two more to go for CCNP.

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Re: Passed BCRAN

2000-09-08 Thread Jon

Since a true "study guide" is not available, and BCRAN = Building Cisco
Remote Access Networks, most people use only the Paquet book for Remote
Access 2.0 and do just fine.

Jon


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> I'm confused.  Is the test that everyone's talking about passing the
"BCRAN"
> or the "Remote Access" exam?  So far I've been reading them as one and the
> same, but since the BCRAN book from Cisco Press (which I own) is supposed
to
> cover the same material as the BCRAN (class), not an Exam Guide (Cisco
Press
> says their Remote Access exam guide will be out in December), I'm starting
> to wonder.
>
> I thought the BCRAN (class) was supposed to be good preparation for the
> Remote Access exam, but that there was no actual BCRAN test?
>
> -Ian
>
> "Jeffrey Eiber" wrote in message <8pbc1n$ois$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I passed BCRAN today with an 846 (706 to pass).  It wasn't nearly as
> >difficult as I was expecting.  I used the Cisco Press BCRAN book by
> Catherin
> >Paquet.  I read the book once, skimmed it a second time, then reviewed a
> few
> >chapters.  I wrote out lots and lots of config fragments for practice.
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Re: Passed BCRAN

2000-09-08 Thread Ian Schorr

I'm confused.  Is the test that everyone's talking about passing the "BCRAN"
or the "Remote Access" exam?  So far I've been reading them as one and the
same, but since the BCRAN book from Cisco Press (which I own) is supposed to
cover the same material as the BCRAN (class), not an Exam Guide (Cisco Press
says their Remote Access exam guide will be out in December), I'm starting
to wonder.

I thought the BCRAN (class) was supposed to be good preparation for the
Remote Access exam, but that there was no actual BCRAN test?

-Ian

"Jeffrey Eiber" wrote in message <8pbc1n$ois$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I passed BCRAN today with an 846 (706 to pass).  It wasn't nearly as
>difficult as I was expecting.  I used the Cisco Press BCRAN book by
Catherin
>Paquet.  I read the book once, skimmed it a second time, then reviewed a
few
>chapters.  I wrote out lots and lots of config fragments for practice.
>That's it.
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Re: Passed BCRAN

2000-09-08 Thread michael champion

Congratulations on passing BCRAN. However, if you used the Paquet CiscoPress
book, I wouldn't exactly call it reviewing a few chapters. Rewriting a few
chapters would be more accurate! This book has glaring errors on just about
every page, and I am astonished that CiscoPress doesn't have a link to an
errata for it. The errors are not merely typos, but whole sections of
commands repeated with the same error (example "dialer-map" instead of
"dialer map"), completely misleading and erroneous information about "dialer
enable-timeout" and "dialer hold-cue", etc. And who can forget the assertion
that you use Reverse Telnet through Windows 95 HyperTerminal to configure a
modem attached directly to the local PC!

After reviewing the material on the Cisco web-site I realized that Cisco
could have presented questions that could have failed nearly everyone if
they wanted to. Even Cisco's own documentation occasionally has errors.

Regards,
MLC

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> difficult as I was expecting.  I used the Cisco Press BCRAN book by
Catherin
> Paquet.  I read the book once, skimmed it a second time, then reviewed a
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Passed BCRAN

2000-09-08 Thread Jeffrey Eiber

I passed BCRAN today with an 846 (706 to pass).  It wasn't nearly as
difficult as I was expecting.  I used the Cisco Press BCRAN book by Catherin
Paquet.  I read the book once, skimmed it a second time, then reviewed a few
chapters.  I wrote out lots and lots of config fragments for practice.
That's it.

Jeff


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RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-09-05 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Actually not :-)
 
I never buy books at Amazon anymore (unless I can't find them anywhere
else).
 
I always buy them at http://www.booksamillion.com if they have them, or look
at http://www.bookpool.com for a good price and availability.
 
The reason for the amazon link is that that is where I could find a picture
of the book, and they have good reviews.
 
Ole



 
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-Original Message-
From: Jeff Humpton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 11:10 AM
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Subject: Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN


Following the link to the place where you bought the book finds that you
spent $60.00 for the book at Amazon.  You could have gotten it for about
$43.00 at www.bookpool.com 

Check out this link for the Bookpool price for that book: 


http://www.bookpool.com/.x/7zeihdx478/ss/1?qs=0072124806&Go.x=15&Go.y=12



If you want technical books and want to save money.  Use bookpool.com 
  
  


Ole Drews Jensen wrote: 


The passing score is 706, and no I have not passed Routing 2.0 not Switching

2.0 yet. 

I used the following to prepare: 


    http://www.insync.net/~drews/bcran/ 


I would have liked to start with Routing 2.0 instead, but there aren't 
really any study guides out there yet. 


I practiced on two 2501's, one 2509 and one 1604. 


Hth, 


Ole 


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From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:34 PM 
To: 'luobin Yang'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN 


What is the passing mark for BCRAN ?  Wat material u used? Have u passed the

routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before you take BCRAN???  I heard my friend 
told me, it is good to take the routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before taking 
BCRAN, Is that true??? 
thank you in advance for your advice!! 
Tong 


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What material have you studied for BCRAN? 


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BCRAN 
> exam, which I passed this morning with a good score. 
> 
> I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
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Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-09-02 Thread Jeff Humpton


Following the link to the place where you bought the book finds that you
spent $60.00 for the book at Amazon.  You could have gotten it for
about $43.00 at www.bookpool.com
Check out this link for the Bookpool price for that book:
http://www.bookpool.com/.x/7zeihdx478/ss/1?qs=0072124806&Go.x=15&Go.y=12
If you want technical books and want to save money.  Use bookpool.com
 
 
Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
The passing score is 706, and no I have not passed
Routing 2.0 not Switching
2.0 yet.
I used the following to prepare:
    http://www.insync.net/~drews/bcran/
I would have liked to start with Routing 2.0 instead, but there aren't
really any study guides out there yet.
I practiced on two 2501's, one 2509 and one 1604.
Hth,
Ole
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-Original Message-
From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:34 PM
To: 'luobin Yang'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN
What is the passing mark for BCRAN ?  Wat material u used? Have
u passed the
routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before you take BCRAN???  I heard
my friend
told me, it is good to take the routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before
taking
BCRAN, Is that true???
thank you in advance for your advice!!
Tong
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What material have you studied for BCRAN?
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> I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for
the
BCRAN
> exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
> I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
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RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

http://www.insync.net/~drews/bcran

Hth,

Ole

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I'm studying for the same exam. What did you use to study(etc. books 
guides)? Thank you


   Raheem


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>Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:42:50 -0500
>
>I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the BCRAN
>exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
>I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole
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Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-28 Thread Rah Sta

I'm studying for the same exam. What did you use to study(etc. books 
guides)? Thank you


   Raheem


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>Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:42:50 -0500
>
>I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the BCRAN
>exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
>I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole
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RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

The passing score is 706, and no I have not passed Routing 2.0 not Switching
2.0 yet.

I used the following to prepare:

http://www.insync.net/~drews/bcran/

I would have liked to start with Routing 2.0 instead, but there aren't
really any study guides out there yet.

I practiced on two 2501's, one 2509 and one 1604.

Hth,

Ole

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From: Sim, CT (Chee Tong) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:34 PM
To: 'luobin Yang'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN


What is the passing mark for BCRAN ?  Wat material u used? Have u passed the
routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before you take BCRAN???  I heard my friend
told me, it is good to take the routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before taking
BCRAN, Is that true???
thank you in advance for your advice!!
Tong

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Subject: Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN


What material have you studied for BCRAN?

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

> I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the
BCRAN
> exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
> I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
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RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-28 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

http://www.insync.net/~drews/bcran/

Ole

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ole Drews Jensen
Subject: Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN


What material have you studied for BCRAN?

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

> I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the
BCRAN
> exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
> I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
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RE: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-27 Thread Sim, CT (Chee Tong)

What is the passing mark for BCRAN ?  Wat material u used? Have u passed the
routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before you take BCRAN???  I heard my friend
told me, it is good to take the routing 2.0 and switching 2.0 before taking
BCRAN, Is that true???
thank you in advance for your advice!!
Tong

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What material have you studied for BCRAN?

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

> I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the
BCRAN
> exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
> I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ole
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Re: Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-27 Thread luobin Yang

What material have you studied for BCRAN?

Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

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> exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.
>
> I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.
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> Thanks,
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Thanks : Passed BCRAN

2000-08-26 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I just wanted to thank those of you who has helped me prepare for the BCRAN
exam, which I passed this morning with a good score.

I will now continue my expedition towards CCNP 2.0.

Thanks,

Ole

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passed bcran 640-505 what next?

2000-07-17 Thread Favio T

I just passed the BCRAN what do you Cisco guys and gals think or recommend I 
do next ?
i'M THINKING sUPPORT 640-506

Your advice is most appreciated

Thanks

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Re: Passed BCRAN today!!

2000-07-11 Thread Charlemagne

Don't undervalue X.25.  It is still in use within
the US, but in Europe and other places around the
globe, X.25 is very widely used.  As Cisco is a global
company, your certification should be globally
based and not based on what is in use in the US
today.

Regards Kamoto

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Re: Passed BCRAN today!!

2000-07-11 Thread Russell Lusignan

congrats..  watch the CIT 4.0.. the english is brutal on the exam..
questions tend to contradict themselves as well as being unclear :)

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Passed BCRAN today!!

2000-07-10 Thread Lonnie Paschall

Just passed the BCRAN today. I used the Cisco Press Builiding Cisco Remote
Access Networks book and the boson exams. The test was easier than the
others (ACRC, CLSC). I was suprised to find so many x25 questions in such a
new exam. Cant actually tell you any questions but I would know you ISDN
commands, X25, and Frame-Relay. Now on to CIT!!!

Lonnie



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