Stus-List Starter

[Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List]

> It's fixed.

> It was either the press-fit connector ( it was pretty corroded / fell apart 
> when I disconnected it) , the push button switch, or both.  I installed the 
> new switch, cleaned all surrounding connections, substituted the connector 
> with a proper shrink wrap crimp connector, and all is well. Starts with a 
> light press every time. 

Weather or not the switch needed to be replaced that was 30 bucks well spent / 
now all is fresh and should stay trouble free for a good long while. 

Plus we came in 2nd in the race.  A pretty good evening altogether.

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five "
Lake Lanier, Ga




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Stus-List Landfall Upgrades

[PME via CnC-List]

It is nice to hear about LF38 update  of others.  Congratulations.

 I am glad to hear of someone using a SPX-5 autopilot on a Landfall 38.I 
installed a SPX-5 on a C&C 29-1 and after 2.5 years it started having problems. 
  I removed it, send to Raymarine for out of warrantee repair, then sold my C&C 
29.   Raymarine replaced components in the course computer and upgraded the 
firmware at no charge.  Kudos to them for great service!   At the time I was 
deciding between a B&G or Raymarine chart plotter for the Landfall 38.  I 
happily purchased a Raymarine e7D, Raymarine fish finder depth transducer, and 
a Raymarine combination speed/temp/log transducer.I installed the SPX-5 
wheel autopilot on the Landfall 38 and I feel it works just as well as it did 
on the 29 (maybe even better since the 29 was so tender). Installing a 
Raymarine Radar is a future plan.



-
Paul Eugenio
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
svJohannaRose.blogspot.com
Carrabelle, FL

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> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 15:16:52 -0400
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> Subject: Stus-List Upgrades!
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> 
> Landfall 38 update...bigtime!
> 
> 
> Alegria came to me (formerly Lanakai, Fugawi out of Grand Traverse Bay, MI) 
> in 2006 with older but working systems...SH VHF, ST4000 Auto, Furuno 16xx 
> Radar, Garmin GPS, Alpine Stereo.  It hadn't been used in a couple of years 
> and had been kept inside.  The Prior Owners had done a quality job in taking 
> care of her.  I had previously upgraded the Autopilot to the XPS-5 SmartPilot 
> and was using a Garmin 478 for GPS and Charts.
> 
> 
> Upgrades this year:
> Replaced wet core under Pedestal and Rudder post.
> Replaced Pedestal with Edson Vision Series...so I could have...
> Raymarine a97 9" display w/remote at the helm and
> Standard Horizion Matrix 2200 VHF with AIS and Remote MIC
> Raymarine Color Hi Def Radar
> Raymarine Fishfinder transducer (B60) in bow
> Raymarine Masthead instruments
> and Fusion AV750 stereo with Sirius/XM
> 
> 
> This was a BIG project for me...and I could not have completed it without 
> Fred Street's very capable assistance.  When I was overwhelmed, he just took 
> over.  He plugged it in and everything worked! It was magicical.  I highly 
> recommend his services.
> 
> 
> Pics available upon request.  Just in case anybody is interested...I do have 
> a bunch of leftover parts that I would be very pleased to part with for a 
> modest contribution to offset this year's expenses. Feel free to contact me 
> off line if you are interested...
> 
> 
> I appreciate this list lotsI may not contribute much but read it daily.  
> Thanks again to Stu who deserves all of our support!
> Now I just want to sail her.
> 
> 
> Spencer Johnson
> 1984 Landfall 38 # 165 ALEGRIA
> Summers in Racine, WI
> Home in Mount Prospect, IL
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Jake

Where is the traveller in 35-3? Our family 36 (1981) had it on coachroof 
(horrible) our frersc33 and cc33-2 have on bridgedeck (marginally better). 
Koobalibra cc115 and prospector cc99 have immediately in front of pedestal 
where it should be.

Mike

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Sent: July 29, 2015 9:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

Bradford,

I've raced on a C&C 99 (hull #6).  While the boat can sail to its rating, I 
found the experience far less satisfying that sailing on my own 35-III.  The 
steering throw is very short and rubbery feeling.  Getting feedback through the 
wheel was very difficult if not impossible.  The mainsheet setup and traveler 
in the cockpit makes racing difficult.  The cockpit is full of people trying to 
work in close proximity.  Not ideal for racing, but maybe not an issue for 
cruising.

Hull #6 has had issues with cracks it the forward section of the hull, as well 
as a chainplate that pulled out of the deck.  C&C stepped in and made repairs, 
but I somehow think the early hulls were built to sail fast and not necessarily 
to last a long time.

I've been on the 110 and much prefer the layout.  Can't say much about the 
sailing performance, but the layout is much better.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
“Midnight Mistress”
C&C 35 Mk-III
Hampton VA



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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bradford 
Baker via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bradford Baker
Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share with 
us?

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Jake Brodersen via CnC-List]

Bradford,

I've raced on a C&C 99 (hull #6).  While the boat can sail to its rating, I 
found the experience far less satisfying that sailing on my own 35-III.  The 
steering throw is very short and rubbery feeling.  Getting feedback through the 
wheel was very difficult if not impossible.  The mainsheet setup and traveler 
in the cockpit makes racing difficult.  The cockpit is full of people trying to 
work in close proximity.  Not ideal for racing, but maybe not an issue for 
cruising.

Hull #6 has had issues with cracks it the forward section of the hull, as well 
as a chainplate that pulled out of the deck.  C&C stepped in and made repairs, 
but I somehow think the early hulls were built to sail fast and not necessarily 
to last a long time.

I've been on the 110 and much prefer the layout.  Can't say much about the 
sailing performance, but the layout is much better.

Jake

Jake Brodersen
“Midnight Mistress”
C&C 35 Mk-III
Hampton VA



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Baker via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bradford Baker
Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share with 
us?

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Stus-List Repower

[svpegasus38]

Edd, congrats on the new power plant. Enjoy. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.





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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[S Thomas via CnC-List]

Live long and prosper!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
  To: C&C List 
  Cc: Edd Schillay 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:06
  Subject: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!


  Listers,


  I’m happy to report that after the extensive repowering job replacing my dead 
Universal M-35 with a Beta Marine 30, the Starship Enterprise was launched this 
morning with the tide. We start racing again tonight. 


  The order is given: Warp Speed! 



  All the best,


  Edd




  Edd M. Schillay
  Starship Enterprise
  C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
  City Island, NY 
  Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log



















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Re: Stus-List Thanks for the replies

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

11' must be an error in the data on Sailboatdata.com
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=4370

JOHN KRETSCHMER in Sailing Magazine, from February 2001 said "Either the
optional 5-foot shoal-draft or 8-foot deep-draft keel is available."
http://sailingmagazine.net/article-416-c&c-121.html
Bob Perry, also in Sailing Magazine said much the same thing "Three keels
are available drawing 8 feet; 6 feet, 6 inches; or 5 feet."
http://svpaws.net/Site/Resources_files/Perry%20Design%20Review%3A%20C%26C%20110%20Express.pdf

A few more sources:

http://svpaws.net/Site/Resources_files/Top%2010%202.jpeg

http://svpaws.net/Site/Resources_files/Brochure%20specs.pdf

On 29 July 2015 at 18:27, John Pennie  wrote:

> 11' keel?
>
> John
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Ken Heaton  wrote:
>
> "They are definitely race oriented so the weight will surprise you if
> you're coming from the Sabre/Tartan/original C&C world."
>
>
> Careful of those comparisons.  Our 1990 Canadian built C&C 37/40 XL has a
> displacement of 15,900 lbs, of which 7,200 is lead in the 8' deep keel, so
> our boat, less the keel, displaces 8,700 lbs.
>
> A 1999 C&C 121 has a displacement of 14,100 lbs, of which 5,500
> is lead in the 11' deep keel.  8,600 lbs without the keel.  100 lbs is not
> much difference and if our keel was 11' deep we could likely get away with
> only 5,500 lbs. of lead too.
>
> True, the older ones were heavier...
>
> Ken H.
>
> On 29 July 2015 at 17:10, John Pennie via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>> Did the same thing, looked at several J's before coming to my senses and
>> jumping on the 121. We use her as a fast cruiser and occasional racer.  The
>> only real negative with the Tartan built boats was the interior varnish.
>> They opted to save a few dollars per boat and use an interior grade finish
>> with limited uv tolerance.  They also had some issues with the first epoxy
>> hulls around 2002 but you would think any issues on a particular boat would
>> have surfaced by now.
>>
>> Really like all of the C&C's from Tartan.  They are definitely race
>> oriented so the weight will surprise you if you're coming from the
>> Sabre/Tartan/original C&C world.
>>
>> Having owned a Sabre 386 I can tell you they are not even in the same
>> league in terms of performance.  Beautiful construction however.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bradford Baker via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > In response to my questions about later models C & Cs. We’re not
>> planning any racing, but as an ex-racer I’d rather have something that’s
>> faster and handles better.
>> > Draft is a consideration, but we’re o.k. with anything up to 6.5'
>> > We’ve looked at a lot of Js in the same size range as well.
>> > Originally lookes at Sabres which were certainly well built but much
>> slower based on PHRF data.
>> >
>> > In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that Mother Nature always bats last.
>> >
>> > Bradford W. Baker
>> > bradba...@mac.com
>> > 8308 Old Town Drive
>> > Tampa, FL 33647
>> > 813-528-3291
>> >
>> >
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Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[jtsails via CnC-List]

You mean someone like Wally? Just kidding!!
James
Delaney
1976 C&C 38 Mk 2
Oriental, NC

From: PME via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:15 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: PME 
Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?


Yea, there’s likely some FOOL thinking what a great deal and what a fun project 
that would be to fix her up.   And before we know it,  he/she will be posting 
on the list….



-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL






  On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:53 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:

  Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:53:43 -0400
  From: Robert Boyer 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
  Message-ID: <0edac2a6-516e-4092-a26a-8ed592a5a...@icloud.com>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

  It's pretty sad when you can buy a 38-foot C&C for less money than we pay for 
a slip rental for one year!





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Flesness via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Nate Flesness
Subject: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...

Nate


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Re: Stus-List Thanks for the replies

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

"They are definitely race oriented so the weight will surprise you if
you're coming from the Sabre/Tartan/original C&C world."


Careful of those comparisons.  Our 1990 Canadian built C&C 37/40 XL has a
displacement of 15,900 lbs, of which 7,200 is lead in the 8' deep keel, so
our boat, less the keel, displaces 8,700 lbs.

A 1999 C&C 121 has a displacement of 14,100 lbs, of which 5,500
is lead in the 11' deep keel.  8,600 lbs without the keel.  100 lbs is not
much difference and if our keel was 11' deep we could likely get away with
only 5,500 lbs. of lead too.

True, the older ones were heavier...

Ken H.

On 29 July 2015 at 17:10, John Pennie via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Did the same thing, looked at several J's before coming to my senses and
> jumping on the 121. We use her as a fast cruiser and occasional racer.  The
> only real negative with the Tartan built boats was the interior varnish.
> They opted to save a few dollars per boat and use an interior grade finish
> with limited uv tolerance.  They also had some issues with the first epoxy
> hulls around 2002 but you would think any issues on a particular boat would
> have surfaced by now.
>
> Really like all of the C&C's from Tartan.  They are definitely race
> oriented so the weight will surprise you if you're coming from the
> Sabre/Tartan/original C&C world.
>
> Having owned a Sabre 386 I can tell you they are not even in the same
> league in terms of performance.  Beautiful construction however.
>
> John
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bradford Baker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > In response to my questions about later models C & Cs. We’re not
> planning any racing, but as an ex-racer I’d rather have something that’s
> faster and handles better.
> > Draft is a consideration, but we’re o.k. with anything up to 6.5'
> > We’ve looked at a lot of Js in the same size range as well.
> > Originally lookes at Sabres which were certainly well built but much
> slower based on PHRF data.
> >
> > In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that Mother Nature always bats last.
> >
> > Bradford W. Baker
> > bradba...@mac.com
> > 8308 Old Town Drive
> > Tampa, FL 33647
> > 813-528-3291
> >
> >
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Bob McLaughlin via CnC-List]

Hello Brad.  We sailed a C&C 33-II for 20 years but sold her for a C&C 110 
three years ago and are very delighted.  Glad to answer any questions.  One 
great source of information on the C&C 110 is the C&C Owners web site on 
sailingnetworks.com 
(http://www.sailingnetworks.com/login?redirect=%2Fgroups%2Fforum%2Flist%3Fgroup%3D526). 
Note the 110 has many variants; 4 keels, 3 masts and with a symmetrical or 
asymmetrical spinnaker set up as well as early (mid 2002 and before) boats 
were vinylester resin and after that, epoxy based.  Tartan Marine, who made 
the 110, is still supporting it and has been very responsive to questions. 
With any saildrive engine boats, one key question is if the saildrive rubber 
seal at the drive leg/hull joint has been replaced.  (Volvo recommends every 
7 years though most seem to be going much longer...)


Bob McLaughlin
2003 C&C 110 Blue Devil

-Original Message- 
From: Bradford Baker via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 10:39 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bradford Baker
Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share 
with us?


In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Re: Stus-List Thanks for the replies

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

Did the same thing, looked at several J's before coming to my senses and 
jumping on the 121. We use her as a fast cruiser and occasional racer.  The 
only real negative with the Tartan built boats was the interior varnish.  They 
opted to save a few dollars per boat and use an interior grade finish with 
limited uv tolerance.  They also had some issues with the first epoxy hulls 
around 2002 but you would think any issues on a particular boat would have 
surfaced by now.

Really like all of the C&C's from Tartan.  They are definitely race oriented so 
the weight will surprise you if you're coming from the Sabre/Tartan/original 
C&C world.

Having owned a Sabre 386 I can tell you they are not even in the same league in 
terms of performance.  Beautiful construction however.

John


Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 29, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Bradford Baker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> In response to my questions about later models C & Cs. We’re not planning any 
> racing, but as an ex-racer I’d rather have something that’s faster and 
> handles better.
> Draft is a consideration, but we’re o.k. with anything up to 6.5'
> We’ve looked at a lot of Js in the same size range as well.
> Originally lookes at Sabres which were certainly well built but much slower 
> based on PHRF data.
> 
> In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that Mother Nature always bats last.
> 
> Bradford W. Baker
> bradba...@mac.com
> 8308 Old Town Drive
> Tampa, FL 33647
> 813-528-3291
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

Mike, I have a pretty little 1986 33 II for sale that would make an excellent 
racing platform...hint, hint, hintwe can talk about delivering
 

 


Richard
1985 C&C 36 CB, Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
To: kenheaton ; cnc-list 
Cc: Hoyt, Mike 
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please



Thanks Ken
 
For sale but not sold.  As a matter of fact racing on it in 2 hours ….
 
If Koobalibra sells then my racing gets a lot more expensive as we have to use 
my boat! 
 
Mike
Persistence
1987 Frers 33
Halifax, NS
 
 
 
 
From: Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:52 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
 

Mike neglected to mention the 115 he races on out of Halifax, NS is also for 
sale (but it is a long way from Florida).

 

Ken H.


 

On 29 July 2015 at 13:22, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  wrote:
I will echo what John has asked.  What are you planning to do with the boat?

I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite a 
bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well.  Of the four models I believe 
these are the most commonly raced

The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized crew to 
run it.  We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give adequate 
weight on rail and to get all the jobs done.  Both the 115 and 99 have 
oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since it has a 
mast end and a guy end on the pole.  This requires a mast person as well as a 
foredeck person for gybes.  The 99 can do end for end or dip pole so requires 
one less body.  Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate crew size on a 99.

The rig on the 115 is quite large.  The main sheet is led to a winch on either 
coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I believe 6 or 8 
to one with ratcheting cam cleats.  The traveler on the 99 seems to work better 
than that on the 115 as well.  Much else is the same on the two models

The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in the 99 
is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite comfortably in 
the aft cabin on a 99 more than once.

If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot speak 
for the 110 or 121.

For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice.  Many of the 
adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and easily 
adjusted.  By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it difficult to 
adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind.

 If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale.  It is hull 
#1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel and custom 
Spartan interior.  This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence and there is a 
huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and the 5.5 version.  
Note that if you are concerned about going places because of a deep draft then 
forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the 5.5 ft 99.

Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are very 
nice designs and very nice sailing boats.  C&C IMO really dropped the ball when 
they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has affected the 
performance noticeably but is still a very well performing boat even with the 
5.5 ft keel.  The shallower keel has the weight a bit aft on the 99 compared to 
the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get weight forward for optimum 
trim.  A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in Halifax is very fast and an 
Olson 30 that has raced against both variants of the 99 commented how much 
faster the deeper keel one was.

You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short handed 
sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle.  IMO C&C made 4 very lovely 
models in these boats.  Good luck with your search

Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very envious 
about.  Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing up the 
transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33

Mike


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Baker via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bradford Baker
Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share with 
us?

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Re: Stus-List Upgrades!

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

 OK, sooo, that means Fred makes house callsHey Fred, what's your calendar 
look like for next few weeks

 
Just kidding, congrats on the upgrades, I did the autopilot and chart plotter 
last year, and could not have done any of it without Fred's assistancewe 
even sent him photos form the phone while installing when we hit a snag




Richard
C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;

Richard N. Bush  
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Spencer Johnson via CnC-List 
To: CnC-List 
Cc: ssjohnson 
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 3:17 pm
Subject: Stus-List Upgrades!


Landfall 38 update...bigtime!


Alegria came to me (formerly Lanakai, Fugawi out of Grand Traverse Bay, MI) in 
2006 with older but working systems...SH VHF, ST4000 Auto, Furuno 16xx Radar, 
Garmin GPS, Alpine Stereo.  It hadn't been used in a couple of years and had 
been kept inside.  The Prior Owners had done a quality job in taking care of 
her.  I had previously upgraded the Autopilot to the XPS-5 SmartPilot and was 
using a Garmin 478 for GPS and Charts.


Upgrades this year:
Replaced wet core under Pedestal and Rudder post.
Replaced Pedestal with Edson Vision Series...so I could have...
Raymarine a97 9" display w/remote at the helm and
Standard Horizion Matrix 2200 VHF with AIS and Remote MIC
Raymarine Color Hi Def Radar
Raymarine Fishfinder transducer (B60) in bow
Raymarine Masthead instruments
and Fusion AV750 stereo with Sirius/XM


This was a BIG project for me...and I could not have completed it without Fred 
Street's very capable assistance.  When I was overwhelmed, he just took over.  
He plugged it in and everything worked!  It was magicical.  I highly recommend 
his services.


Pics available upon request.  Just in case anybody is interested...I do have a 
bunch of leftover parts that I would be very pleased to part with for a modest 
contribution to offset this year's expenses.  Feel free to contact me off line 
if you are interested...


I appreciate this list lotsI may not contribute much but read it daily.  
Thanks again to Stu who deserves all of our support!
Now I just want to sail her.


Spencer Johnson
1984 Landfall 38 # 165 ALEGRIA
Summers in Racine, WI
Home in Mount Prospect, IL

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Re: Stus-List winches

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Harold,

That should help.
Hutton-Arco in Australia is your best bet, but shipping is SLOW!
http://www.arco-winches.com/products/spares

There is an outfit in England, winch spares.

Joel

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, patricia barkley-higginbottom via CnC-List
 wrote:

>   Thanks to  those who had suggestions regarding a slipping self tailing
> winch. I found a schematic for the winch, removed the tailing arm, found
> that the spring loaded screws could be tightened , which I did and then
> went for a sail. The wind died before getting a chance to see if there was
> an improvement, but it gave me the idea that perhaps the springs are tired
> too and possibly replacing them might be beneficial. Now the question is
> who might stock them. I seem to remember that there is an outfit in
> Australia. Will have to do a web search, unless anybody has a better idea.
> My drums look suitably rough and usually very few wraps are all that is
> required. It was the self tailer that let go.
> Harold
> Celtic Spirit
> Hamilton, ON
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Re: Stus-List 34 sails needed

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

A long way away, but may be something there?

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/bpo/5122585668.html

Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

-Original Message- 
From: John and Maryann Read via CnC-List

Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 11:14 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: John and Maryann Read
Subject: Stus-List 34 sails needed

Looking for replacements of our very tired sails
155% genoa, #6 luff tape for Harken forestay
0.5 to 0.75 oz symmetrical spinnaker for our 34.

33 Mk1 will also fit

Anyone have these hanging around??

Many thanks

John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C&C 34
Noank, CT




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Stus-List winches

[patricia barkley-higginbottom via CnC-List]

Thanks to  those who had suggestions regarding a slipping self tailing winch. I 
found a schematic for the winch, removed the tailing arm, found that the spring 
loaded screws could be tightened , which I did and then went for a sail. The 
wind died before getting a chance to see if there was an improvement, but it 
gave me the idea that perhaps the springs are tired too and possibly replacing 
them might be beneficial. Now the question is who might stock them. I seem to 
remember that there is an outfit in Australia. Will have to do a web search, 
unless anybody has a better idea. My drums look suitably rough and usually very 
few wraps are all that is required. It was the self tailer that let go.
Harold
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Stus-List Upgrades!

[Spencer Johnson via CnC-List]

Landfall 38 update...bigtime!


Alegria came to me (formerly Lanakai, Fugawi out of Grand Traverse Bay, MI) in 
2006 with older but working systems...SH VHF, ST4000 Auto, Furuno 16xx Radar, 
Garmin GPS, Alpine Stereo.  It hadn't been used in a couple of years and had 
been kept inside.  The Prior Owners had done a quality job in taking care of 
her.  I had previously upgraded the Autopilot to the XPS-5 SmartPilot and was 
using a Garmin 478 for GPS and Charts.


Upgrades this year:
Replaced wet core under Pedestal and Rudder post.
Replaced Pedestal with Edson Vision Series...so I could have...
Raymarine a97 9" display w/remote at the helm and
Standard Horizion Matrix 2200 VHF with AIS and Remote MIC
Raymarine Color Hi Def Radar
Raymarine Fishfinder transducer (B60) in bow
Raymarine Masthead instruments
and Fusion AV750 stereo with Sirius/XM


This was a BIG project for me...and I could not have completed it without Fred 
Street's very capable assistance.  When I was overwhelmed, he just took over.  
He plugged it in and everything worked!  It was magicical.  I highly recommend 
his services.


Pics available upon request.  Just in case anybody is interested...I do have a 
bunch of leftover parts that I would be very pleased to part with for a modest 
contribution to offset this year's expenses.  Feel free to contact me off line 
if you are interested...


I appreciate this list lotsI may not contribute much but read it daily.  
Thanks again to Stu who deserves all of our support!
Now I just want to sail her.


Spencer Johnson
1984 Landfall 38 # 165 ALEGRIA
Summers in Racine, WI
Home in Mount Prospect, IL
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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

If that is Edd's new Beta Warp Engine he must have had to warp space just
to get it to fit into a 37+.  The're a roomy boat, but wow...

Ken H.

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> Schematic for the new engine.  Jerry J&J C&C 27V
> [image:
> http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/ambassador-class-starship-ncc-1701-c/ambassador-class-starship-ncc-1701-c-sheet-12.jpg]
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

I'll miss seeing her around if she sells.  We're pretty used to having her
(and Dave) in the Bras d'or Lakes in the summer.

Its a tradition by now.

Ken H.

On 29 July 2015 at 15:56, Hoyt, Mike  wrote:

>  Thanks Ken
>
>
>
> For sale but not sold.  As a matter of fact racing on it in 2 hours ….
>
>
>
> If Koobalibra sells then my racing gets a lot more expensive as we have to
> use my boat!
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> 1987 Frers 33
>
> Halifax, NS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:52 PM
> *To:* cnc-list
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
>
>
>
> Mike neglected to mention the 115 he races on out of Halifax, NS is also
> for sale (but it is a long way from Florida).
>
>
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On 29 July 2015 at 13:22, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I will echo what John has asked.  What are you planning to do with the
> boat?
>
> I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite
> a bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well.  Of the four models I
> believe these are the most commonly raced
>
> The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized
> crew to run it.  We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give
> adequate weight on rail and to get all the jobs done.  Both the 115 and 99
> have oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since
> it has a mast end and a guy end on the pole.  This requires a mast person
> as well as a foredeck person for gybes.  The 99 can do end for end or dip
> pole so requires one less body.  Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate
> crew size on a 99.
>
> The rig on the 115 is quite large.  The main sheet is led to a winch on
> either coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I
> believe 6 or 8 to one with ratcheting cam cleats.  The traveler on the 99
> seems to work better than that on the 115 as well.  Much else is the same
> on the two models
>
> The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in
> the 99 is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite
> comfortably in the aft cabin on a 99 more than once.
>
> If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot
> speak for the 110 or 121.
>
> For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice.  Many of the
> adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and
> easily adjusted.  By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it
> difficult to adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind.
>
>  If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale.  It is
> hull #1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel
> and custom Spartan interior.  This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence
> and there is a huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and
> the 5.5 version.  Note that if you are concerned about going places because
> of a deep draft then forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the
> 5.5 ft 99.
>
> Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are
> very nice designs and very nice sailing boats.  C&C IMO really dropped the
> ball when they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has
> affected the performance noticeably but is still a very well performing
> boat even with the 5.5 ft keel.  The shallower keel has the weight a bit
> aft on the 99 compared to the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get
> weight forward for optimum trim.  A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in
> Halifax is very fast and an Olson 30 that has raced against both variants
> of the 99 commented how much faster the deeper keel one was.
>
> You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short
> handed sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle.  IMO C&C made 4
> very lovely models in these boats.  Good luck with your search
>
> Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very
> envious about.  Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing
> up the transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33
>
> Mike
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Bradford Baker via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Bradford Baker
> Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
>
> My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
> Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share
> with us?
>
> In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”
>
> Bradford W. Baker
> bradba...@mac.com
> 8308 Old Town Drive
> Tampa, FL 33647
> 813-528-3291
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Thanks Ken

For sale but not sold.  As a matter of fact racing on it in 2 hours ….

If Koobalibra sells then my racing gets a lot more expensive as we have to use 
my boat!

Mike
Persistence
1987 Frers 33
Halifax, NS




From: Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:52 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Hoyt, Mike
Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

Mike neglected to mention the 115 he races on out of Halifax, NS is also for 
sale (but it is a long way from Florida).

Ken H.

On 29 July 2015 at 13:22, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I will echo what John has asked.  What are you planning to do with the boat?

I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite a 
bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well.  Of the four models I believe 
these are the most commonly raced

The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized crew to 
run it.  We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give adequate 
weight on rail and to get all the jobs done.  Both the 115 and 99 have 
oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since it has a 
mast end and a guy end on the pole.  This requires a mast person as well as a 
foredeck person for gybes.  The 99 can do end for end or dip pole so requires 
one less body.  Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate crew size on a 99.

The rig on the 115 is quite large.  The main sheet is led to a winch on either 
coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I believe 6 or 8 
to one with ratcheting cam cleats.  The traveler on the 99 seems to work better 
than that on the 115 as well.  Much else is the same on the two models

The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in the 99 
is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite comfortably in 
the aft cabin on a 99 more than once.

If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot speak 
for the 110 or 121.

For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice.  Many of the 
adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and easily 
adjusted.  By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it difficult to 
adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind.

 If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale.  It is hull 
#1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel and custom 
Spartan interior.  This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence and there is a 
huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and the 5.5 version.  
Note that if you are concerned about going places because of a deep draft then 
forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the 5.5 ft 99.

Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are very 
nice designs and very nice sailing boats.  C&C IMO really dropped the ball when 
they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has affected the 
performance noticeably but is still a very well performing boat even with the 
5.5 ft keel.  The shallower keel has the weight a bit aft on the 99 compared to 
the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get weight forward for optimum 
trim.  A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in Halifax is very fast and an 
Olson 30 that has raced against both variants of the 99 commented how much 
faster the deeper keel one was.

You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short handed 
sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle.  IMO C&C made 4 very lovely 
models in these boats.  Good luck with your search

Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very envious 
about.  Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing up the 
transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33

Mike

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[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Bradford Baker via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bradford Baker
Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share with 
us?

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Ken Heaton via CnC-List]

Mike neglected to mention the 115 he races on out of Halifax, NS is also
for sale (but it is a long way from Florida).

Ken H.

On 29 July 2015 at 13:22, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I will echo what John has asked.  What are you planning to do with the
> boat?
>
> I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite
> a bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well.  Of the four models I
> believe these are the most commonly raced
>
> The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized
> crew to run it.  We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give
> adequate weight on rail and to get all the jobs done.  Both the 115 and 99
> have oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since
> it has a mast end and a guy end on the pole.  This requires a mast person
> as well as a foredeck person for gybes.  The 99 can do end for end or dip
> pole so requires one less body.  Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate
> crew size on a 99.
>
> The rig on the 115 is quite large.  The main sheet is led to a winch on
> either coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I
> believe 6 or 8 to one with ratcheting cam cleats.  The traveler on the 99
> seems to work better than that on the 115 as well.  Much else is the same
> on the two models
>
> The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in
> the 99 is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite
> comfortably in the aft cabin on a 99 more than once.
>
> If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot
> speak for the 110 or 121.
>
> For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice.  Many of the
> adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and
> easily adjusted.  By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it
> difficult to adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind.
>
>  If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale.  It is
> hull #1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel
> and custom Spartan interior.  This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence
> and there is a huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and
> the 5.5 version.  Note that if you are concerned about going places because
> of a deep draft then forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the
> 5.5 ft 99.
>
> Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are
> very nice designs and very nice sailing boats.  C&C IMO really dropped the
> ball when they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has
> affected the performance noticeably but is still a very well performing
> boat even with the 5.5 ft keel.  The shallower keel has the weight a bit
> aft on the 99 compared to the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get
> weight forward for optimum trim.  A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in
> Halifax is very fast and an Olson 30 that has raced against both variants
> of the 99 commented how much faster the deeper keel one was.
>
> You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short
> handed sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle.  IMO C&C made 4
> very lovely models in these boats.  Good luck with your search
>
> Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very
> envious about.  Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing
> up the transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Bradford Baker via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Bradford Baker
> Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
>
> My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
> Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share
> with us?
>
> In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”
>
> Bradford W. Baker
> bradba...@mac.com
> 8308 Old Town Drive
> Tampa, FL 33647
> 813-528-3291
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Re: Stus-List Thanks for the replies

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

You will love any of the later C&Cs.  They all sail very well

Have fun looking.   Looking is the best part!  Spending is the worst

Mike
Halifax

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Subject: Stus-List Thanks for the replies

In response to my questions about later models C & Cs. We’re not planning any 
racing, but as an ex-racer I’d rather have something that’s faster and handles 
better.
Draft is a consideration, but we’re o.k. with anything up to 6.5'
We’ve looked at a lot of Js in the same size range as well.
Originally lookes at Sabres which were certainly well built but much slower 
based on PHRF data.

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that Mother Nature always bats last.

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Stus-List Thanks for the replies

[Bradford Baker via CnC-List]

In response to my questions about later models C & Cs. We’re not planning any 
racing, but as an ex-racer I’d rather have something that’s faster and handles 
better.
Draft is a consideration, but we’re o.k. with anything up to 6.5'
We’ve looked at a lot of Js in the same size range as well.
Originally lookes at Sabres which were certainly well built but much slower 
based on PHRF data.

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that Mother Nature always bats last.

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

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Varrrooo!!

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:59:37 -0400
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com

May your new beta diesel live a long and prosperous life.
SteveSuhana, C&C 32Toronto

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Stu,
Great idea. I know David Risch is loaded, so I’m sure he’d pay top dollar. 


All the best,
Edd

Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log




On Jul 29, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:




Edd
 
You should consider charging admission to view the new power plant when you 
are at the Rendezvous.  Might be able to recoup some of your costs.
 
Stu

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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

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Schematic for the new engine.  Jerry J&J C&C 27V
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Re: Stus-List Landfall 38 restoration project

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I would not call the person a FOOL.   If he/she knows what they are buying for 
4k and have the knowledge and are willing to put the work, that person is a 
genius.  

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of PME via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Stus-List Landfall 38 restoration project

 

Speaking of Fools, I just started documenting all of the little and big 
projects that I have done over the last 16 months since purchasing my “LF38 
fixer upper”.  For 14 months, the boat was hauled out, and I drove over an hour 
each way to the marina, nearly every weekend, working on some project.  During 
the week days, I spent too much time planning, preparing, and just plan 
thinking about boat projects.   She is now in her slip, and I am enjoying the 
sailing, but for the longest time I wondered if we were ever going to get to to 
this point.

 

I am using a blog for the online documentation.  I started it a few weeks ago, 
back dating the entries of various projects.  It is still incomplete, a bit 
green, and I’m sure spotted with grammatical errors.  

 

The easiest way to navigate the site is to use the “Projects” link under Pages 
on the right side of the main page.

 

   http://svjohannarose.blogspot.comsvJohannaRose.blogspot.com

 

 

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL





 

 

On Jul 29, 2015, at 12:15 PM, PME  wrote:

 

 

Yea, there’s likely some FOOL thinking what a great deal and what a fun project 
that would be to fix her up.   And before we know it,  he/she will be posting 
on the list….

 

 

-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL





 

 

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:53:43 -0400
From: Robert Boyer <  dainyr...@icloud.com>
To:   cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
Message-ID: <  
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

It's pretty sad when you can buy a 38-foot C&C for less money than we pay for a 
slip rental for one year!







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Flesness via CnC-List
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Subject: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722? 

 &_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...

Nate


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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[D Harben via CnC-List]

> Hi Starship

1 to beam up from Lake Huron

Don
Life
V34


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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

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Congrats Edd!

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May your new beta diesel live a long and prosperous life. SteveSuhana, C&C 
32Toronto 
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Stu, Great idea. I know David Risch is loaded, so I’m sure he’d pay 
top dollar. 

All the best, Edd  Edd M. SchillayStarship EnterpriseC&C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BCity Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log   On Jul 29, 
2015, at 12:14 PM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:Edd You 
should consider charging admission to view the new power plant when you are at 
the Rendezvous.  Might be able to recoup some of your costs. Stu  
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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List]

May your new beta diesel live a long and prosperous life.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


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> Stu,
>
> Great idea. I know David Risch is loaded, so I’m sure he’d pay top dollar.
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 29, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Stu via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
>   Edd
>
> You should consider charging admission to view the new power plant when
> you are at the Rendezvous.  Might be able to recoup some of your costs.
>
> Stu
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Wayne Wall via CnC-List]

Hi Brad
My wife and I have owned a C&C110 since 2006. We have nothing but great 
things to say about the boat. They are super fast, yet provide all the 
amenities you could desire for a holiday on the hook. We are about to list 
ours, but it is much too far away for you to consider (Canada); however, if 
you decide to purchase a 110 and need some advice from an owner, please feel 
free to send me a note.

Cheers
Wayne Wall
C&C110
VELOX

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  2. Re:  The Starship Enterprise is Back! (Joel Aronson)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:39:19 -0400
From: Bradford Baker 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you?d care to share 
with us?


In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that ?Mother Nature always bats last.?

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291





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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 11:52:22 -0400
From: Joel Aronson 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!
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Great!

Joel

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


Great to hear!

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


Listers,

I?m happy to report that after the extensive repowering job replacing my
dead Universal M-35 with a Beta Marine 30, the Starship Enterprise was
launched this morning with the tide. We start racing again tonight.

The order is given: Warp Speed!


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>












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I have a 121 and love it.  Also know the 110 very well.  What are you 
looking to do with the boat?


John


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On Jul 29, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Bradford Baker via CnC-List 
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My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you?d care to share 
with us?


In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that ?Mother Nature always bats last.?

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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[Daniel Sheer via CnC-List]

Joel,

I like Rita at First Class Yacht Services in Pasadena, Md. Very reasonable, 
good workmanship, real sunbrella, she measures, and everything just fits. If 
you do enquire, tell her I sent you.
Dan SheerPegathy - LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco



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Stus-List Landfall 38 restoration project

[PME via CnC-List]

Speaking of Fools, I just started documenting all of the little and big 
projects that I have done over the last 16 months since purchasing my “LF38 
fixer upper”.  For 14 months, the boat was hauled out, and I drove over an hour 
each way to the marina, nearly every weekend, working on some project.  During 
the week days, I spent too much time planning, preparing, and just plan 
thinking about boat projects.   She is now in her slip, and I am enjoying the 
sailing, but for the longest time I wondered if we were ever going to get to to 
this point.

I am using a blog for the online documentation.  I started it a few weeks ago, 
back dating the entries of various projects.  It is still incomplete, a bit 
green, and I’m sure spotted with grammatical errors.  

The easiest way to navigate the site is to use the “Projects” link under Pages 
on the right side of the main page.

   http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com 
svJohannaRose.blogspot.com


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL




> On Jul 29, 2015, at 12:15 PM, PME  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yea, there’s likely some FOOL thinking what a great deal and what a fun 
> project that would be to fix her up.   And before we know it,  he/she will be 
> posting on the list….
> 
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C Landfall 38
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Carrabelle, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:53 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:53:43 -0400
>> From: Robert Boyer mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com>>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
>> Message-ID: <0edac2a6-516e-4092-a26a-8ed592a5a...@icloud.com 
>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>> 
>> It's pretty sad when you can buy a 38-foot C&C for less money than we pay 
>> for a slip rental for one year!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Nate Flesness via 
>>> CnC-List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:08 AM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>>> Cc: Nate Flesness
>>> Subject: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...
>>> 
>>> Nate
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Multiplexer

[Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List]

Thanks!


Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD

> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:39:28 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List NMEA 0183 Multiplexer
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: w...@wbryant.com
> 
> I've had good luck with my Brookhouse.  I 
> just checked the site and see they've added some WiFi and Bluetooth 
> accessories.
> 
> Wal
> 
> -- 
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> www.wbryant.com
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List]

I have seriously considered going to Ohio to look at the C&C 99 (rabbit). The 
prospect of owning hull #1 scares me. Didn't they have issues with hull 
construction at the beginning or was it just Tartan 3700s? 

Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 C&C 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD

> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 16:22:40 +
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: mike.h...@impgroup.com
> 
> I will echo what John has asked.  What are you planning to do with the boat?
> 
> I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite a 
> bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well.  Of the four models I believe 
> these are the most commonly raced
> 
> The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized crew 
> to run it.  We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give adequate 
> weight on rail and to get all the jobs done.  Both the 115 and 99 have 
> oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since it has 
> a mast end and a guy end on the pole.  This requires a mast person as well as 
> a foredeck person for gybes.  The 99 can do end for end or dip pole so 
> requires one less body.  Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate crew size 
> on a 99.
> 
> The rig on the 115 is quite large.  The main sheet is led to a winch on 
> either coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I believe 
> 6 or 8 to one with ratcheting cam cleats.  The traveler on the 99 seems to 
> work better than that on the 115 as well.  Much else is the same on the two 
> models
> 
> The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in the 
> 99 is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite comfortably 
> in the aft cabin on a 99 more than once.
> 
> If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot speak 
> for the 110 or 121.
> 
> For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice.  Many of the 
> adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and easily 
> adjusted.  By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it difficult 
> to adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind.
> 
>  If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale.  It is hull 
> #1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel and 
> custom Spartan interior.  This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence and 
> there is a huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and the 5.5 
> version.  Note that if you are concerned about going places because of a deep 
> draft then forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the 5.5 ft 99.
> 
> Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are very 
> nice designs and very nice sailing boats.  C&C IMO really dropped the ball 
> when they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has affected the 
> performance noticeably but is still a very well performing boat even with the 
> 5.5 ft keel.  The shallower keel has the weight a bit aft on the 99 compared 
> to the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get weight forward for optimum 
> trim.  A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in Halifax is very fast and an 
> Olson 30 that has raced against both variants of the 99 commented how much 
> faster the deeper keel one was.
> 
> You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short 
> handed sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle.  IMO C&C made 4 very 
> lovely models in these boats.  Good luck with your search
> 
> Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very envious 
> about.  Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing up the 
> transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33
> 
> Mike
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
> Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share 
> with us?
> 
> In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”
> 
> Bradford W. Baker
> bradba...@mac.com
> 8308 Old Town Drive
> Tampa, FL 33647
> 813-528-3291
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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Stu,

Great idea. I know David Risch is loaded, so I’m sure he’d pay top dollar. 

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 




> On Jul 29, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Edd
>  
> You should consider charging admission to view the new power plant when you 
> are at the Rendezvous.  Might be able to recoup some of your costs.
>  
> Stu
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Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Ted Drossos via CnC-List]

That's a wide range of boats to consider. Draft may be important to you if you 
are sailing in Florida. The C&C 110 is available with four different keel 
configurations. 7.25', 6.5', 6.0' and 4.83'. The shoal draft may be a boat to 
consider in your area. I have a C&C 110 shoal draft which actually points 
better than I expected. Where I sail, there isn't an option to have a deeper 
draft so the 110 was the perfect choice. The 99 and 121 are at opposite ends of 
the scale so only you will be able to determine if they have enough or too much 
room for you. Their layouts are very different. The 110 and 115 are very 
similar in size and layout. If you're moving up from a smaller boat keep in 
mind that loads increase exponentially. Grinding in a large genoa or raising 
the main on a large boat can suck the life out of you in a hurry. They are very 
well built boats and as expected, sail with a performance bias. What do you 
intend to do with the boat? How many people are you trying to accommodate and 
for how long? Planning on doing any racing or just fast cruising?


Ted Drossos
C&C 110
Lady in Red
Bay Shore, NY 
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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

I will echo what John has asked.  What are you planning to do with the boat?

I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite a 
bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well.  Of the four models I believe 
these are the most commonly raced

The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized crew to 
run it.  We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give adequate 
weight on rail and to get all the jobs done.  Both the 115 and 99 have 
oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since it has a 
mast end and a guy end on the pole.  This requires a mast person as well as a 
foredeck person for gybes.  The 99 can do end for end or dip pole so requires 
one less body.  Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate crew size on a 99.

The rig on the 115 is quite large.  The main sheet is led to a winch on either 
coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I believe 6 or 8 
to one with ratcheting cam cleats.  The traveler on the 99 seems to work better 
than that on the 115 as well.  Much else is the same on the two models

The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in the 99 
is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite comfortably in 
the aft cabin on a 99 more than once.

If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot speak 
for the 110 or 121.

For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice.  Many of the 
adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and easily 
adjusted.  By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it difficult to 
adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind.

 If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale.  It is hull 
#1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel and custom 
Spartan interior.  This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence and there is a 
huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and the 5.5 version.  
Note that if you are concerned about going places because of a deep draft then 
forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the 5.5 ft 99.

Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are very 
nice designs and very nice sailing boats.  C&C IMO really dropped the ball when 
they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has affected the 
performance noticeably but is still a very well performing boat even with the 
5.5 ft keel.  The shallower keel has the weight a bit aft on the 99 compared to 
the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get weight forward for optimum 
trim.  A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in Halifax is very fast and an 
Olson 30 that has raced against both variants of the 99 commented how much 
faster the deeper keel one was.

You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short handed 
sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle.  IMO C&C made 4 very lovely 
models in these boats.  Good luck with your search

Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very envious 
about.  Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing up the 
transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33

Mike

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Baker via CnC-List
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Cc: Bradford Baker
Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share with 
us?

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[PME via CnC-List]

Yea, there’s likely some FOOL thinking what a great deal and what a fun project 
that would be to fix her up.   And before we know it,  he/she will be posting 
on the list….


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL




> On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:53 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:53:43 -0400
> From: Robert Boyer mailto:dainyr...@icloud.com>>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
> Message-ID: <0edac2a6-516e-4092-a26a-8ed592a5a...@icloud.com 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> 
> It's pretty sad when you can buy a 38-foot C&C for less money than we pay for 
> a slip rental for one year!
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of Nate Flesness via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:08 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Cc: Nate Flesness
>> Subject: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...
>> 
>> Nate
>> 
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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Stu via CnC-List]

Edd

You should consider charging admission to view the new power plant when you are 
at the Rendezvous.  Might be able to recoup some of your costs.

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Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 114, Issue 58

[Peter Delean via CnC-List]

> Peter - I'd recommend keeping the stove in the garage and putting it 
> back in before you sell the boat.  Wal
> *

Wal, I'm actually looking at building it in to my BBQ. Put those propane 
burners to work.

When/if boat sells, I will send it off with the new owner.

Actually, the boat is coming along nicely. Has been completely re-wired with a 
new AC and DC panels installed, Nexus wind instruments installed (wireless to 
the wind vane at the top of the mast), leaky V-berth hatch was re-done by 
Atkins and Hoyle (no more drip on the forehead as I try to sleep), Raymarine 
Evo-100 auto pilot installed, all upholstery recovered, new mattress in 
V-berth, new VHF, electronic weather station, solar powered vents, cowl vents, 
Lewmar self-tailing primary winches, etc

Still lots to do. The winter project will be installing a windlass, getting 
some chain and a new Rocna anchor. 

Peter Delean
Drifter 2
1980 C&C 30 Mk 1 (597)



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Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

I have a 121 and love it.  Also know the 110 very well.  What are you looking 
to do with the boat?

John


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> On Jul 29, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Bradford Baker via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
> Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share 
> with us?
> 
> In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”
> 
> Bradford W. Baker
> bradba...@mac.com
> 8308 Old Town Drive
> Tampa, FL 33647
> 813-528-3291
> 
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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Great!

Joel

On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Great to hear!
>
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> I’m happy to report that after the extensive repowering job replacing my
>> dead Universal M-35 with a Beta Marine 30, the Starship Enterprise was
>> launched this morning with the tide. We start racing again tonight.
>>
>> The order is given: Warp Speed!
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>>
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Starship Enterprise
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> City Island, NY
>> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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Stus-List Looking for feedback please

[Bradford Baker via CnC-List]

My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share with 
us?

In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”

Bradford W. Baker
bradba...@mac.com
8308 Old Town Drive
Tampa, FL 33647
813-528-3291



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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Great to hear!

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I’m happy to report that after the extensive repowering job replacing my
> dead Universal M-35 with a Beta Marine 30, the Starship Enterprise was
> launched this morning with the tide. We start racing again tonight.
>
> The order is given: Warp Speed!
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Edd Schillay via CnC-List]

Listers,

I’m happy to report that after the extensive repowering job replacing my dead 
Universal M-35 with a Beta Marine 30, the Starship Enterprise was launched this 
morning with the tide. We start racing again tonight. 

The order is given: Warp Speed! 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY 
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 













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Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

It's pretty sad when you can buy a 38-foot C&C for less money than we pay for a 
slip rental for one year!


On Jul 29, 2015, at 10:47 AM, Steve Staten via CnC-List wrote:

> I paid $4400 for my C&C 27 on eBay in 2011. It had a couple of soft roof 
> spots and the toe rails, handrails and genoa tracks all leak(ed) but I didn’t 
> know it at the time. It’s still a  great boat. Down here in Flyover Country, 
> fancy things sometimes sell cheap when the seller is in a hurry. As our 
> economies circle the drain, there will be more such separation of the 
> hobbyists from the hard-core sailors.
>  
> Steve Staten
> Langley, Oklahoma
> “C’ Est La Vie”
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Nate 
> Flesness via CnC-List
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> Subject: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?
>  
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276
>  
> it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...
>  
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Re: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[Steve Staten via CnC-List]

I paid $4400 for my C&C 27 on eBay in 2011. It had a couple of soft roof spots 
and the toe rails, handrails and genoa tracks all leak(ed) but I didn’t know it 
at the time. It’s still a  great boat. Down here in Flyover Country, fancy 
things sometimes sell cheap when the seller is in a hurry. As our economies 
circle the drain, there will be more such separation of the hobbyists from the 
hard-core sailors.

Steve Staten
Langley, Oklahoma
“C’ Est La Vie”

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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 9:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...

Nate


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Re: Stus-List changing paint

[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

The paint that is removed is still a big waste product.  I recently had my 
bottom soda blasted and the guy came in and laid out big plastic sheets under 
the boat to collect everything.  Afterward, he just folded up the plastic 
sheets and disposed of everything.  Don't forget to plug all the thru holes 
with rags!

Bob


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> Fred:
> 
> You are correct.soda blasting is messy because of the white baking soda 
> used.
> 
> Dry ice blasting is like going through a car wash.only the residue from 
> the bottom paint falls to the ground.dry ice blasting uses frozen carbon 
> dioxide..the pelts turn to a 'gas' when it hits a substrate surface.
> 
> Had my boat dry ice blasted in 2006.took 20 years of the paint off in 
> less than 5 hours.what fell on the ground looked like 'ground 
> pepper'.used a shop vacuum and had the mess cleaned up in 20 minutes.   
> Don't know why this process isn't used more.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> On 2015-07-27 11:03 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
>> Two different things: soda blasting uses something like baking soda, and dry 
>> ice blasting uses chips of frozen carbon dioxide.
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
>> 
>>> On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think soda blasting is dry ice blasting. 
>> 
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> 

Bob Boyer
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
email: dainyr...@icloud.com
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com

"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame

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Stus-List landfall 38 for $4k?

[Nate Flesness via CnC-List]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAILBOAT-C-amp-C-LANDFALL-38-039-/131565358722?&_trksid=p2056016.m2518.l4276

it says soft deck spot, but if thats all, yikes...

Nate
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Stus-List changing paint

[robert via CnC-List]

Fred:

You are correct.soda blasting is messy because of the white baking 
soda used.


Dry ice blasting is like going through a car wash.only the residue 
from the bottom paint falls to the ground.dry ice blasting uses 
frozen carbon dioxide..the pelts turn to a 'gas' when it hits a 
substrate surface.


Had my boat dry ice blasted in 2006.took 20 years of the paint off 
in less than 5 hours.what fell on the ground looked like 'ground 
pepper'.used a shop vacuum and had the mess cleaned up in 20 
minutes.   Don't know why this process isn't used more.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2015-07-27 11:03 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
Two different things: soda blasting uses something like baking soda, 
and dry ice blasting uses chips of frozen carbon dioxide.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

On Jul 27, 2015, at 8:54 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I think soda blasting is dry ice blasting.




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Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Racing C&C 40s back when they were new, in the late 70s/early 80s, we used 
running backstays. They were used to do two things; stop the mast overbending 
when you had a lot of permanent backstay on and to stop the mast pumping when 
beating into a lumpy sea.
These days, another use for running backstays on many cruiser/racers (like 
Swans) is to tension an inner forestay on which a staysail is set. 
As an aside, what we always refer to as check stays is a second set of runners 
attached lower on the mast, usually on race boats with less...robust...rigs 
than ours. These again are mostly used to adjust the bend in the mast as the 
permanent backstay is tightened. The runners and checks control the shape of 
the main; it's not uncommon to "invert" the main if you don't have enough 
tension on the runners and checks when you max out the permanent.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
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> On Jul 29, 2015, at 05:55, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Dwight
> 
> Yes it does.  It seems when c&c started trying to make even more performance 
> oriented designs later 80s the check stays came out. The 90sboats more so. 
> Then the tim jacket boats had swept back spreaders and checks went away again.
> 
> I miss my swept back spreaders. I also really miss fractional rig (when I buy 
> headsails especially)
> 
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of dwight veinot via 
> CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> Sent: July 28, 2015 5:10 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: dwight veinot
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays
> 
> Mike...most older C&C's and especially those designed by Cuthbertson don't 
> have swepth back spreaders or running backstays and some with over 50 feet of 
> stick are single spreader...makes life with the rig very easy
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> I think these may be check stays rather than running backs.  Running back 
> stays mostly on fractional rigs and are for downwind sailing as well as trim 
> upwind.
> 
> Persistence has check stays. We were concerned as you are when we were 
> looking at boat.  Other posters are correct. These are for lumpy seas over 15 
> knots to stop mast from pumping. When light we disconnect and attach to 
> turnbuckles at shrouds.  I have a snap shackle to reconnect to blocks on 
> transom when wind comes up.  We also changed the lines in the blocks to 
> smaller diameter 60 Ft a side so that when using checks we let the line out 
> downwind rather than disconnecting.  These are not the pita we thought they 
> would be but do add one extra thing to do when in use.
> 
> If all boats were swept back spreaders like cc99 and 115 we would not have 
> this discussion.
> 
> Mike
> Persistence
> 1987 Frees 33
> 
> From: CnC-List 
> [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on 
> behalf of scott gary via CnC-List 
> [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
> Sent: July 28, 2015 12:21 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: scott gary
> Subject: Stus-List Running Back Stays
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has 
> them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time.  I am 
> not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising.  I've heard of people on 
> other types of boats just removing them all together.
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott
> C&C 35/3
> 
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Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Dwight

Yes it does.  It seems when c&c started trying to make even more performance 
oriented designs later 80s the check stays came out. The 90sboats more so. Then 
the tim jacket boats had swept back spreaders and checks went away again.

I miss my swept back spreaders. I also really miss fractional rig (when I buy 
headsails especially)

Mike

From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of dwight veinot via 
CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: July 28, 2015 5:10 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Running Back Stays

Mike...most older C&C's and especially those designed by Cuthbertson don't have 
swepth back spreaders or running backstays and some with over 50 feet of stick 
are single spreader...makes life with the rig very easy

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I think these may be check stays rather than running backs.  Running back stays 
mostly on fractional rigs and are for downwind sailing as well as trim upwind.

Persistence has check stays. We were concerned as you are when we were looking 
at boat.  Other posters are correct. These are for lumpy seas over 15 knots to 
stop mast from pumping. When light we disconnect and attach to turnbuckles at 
shrouds.  I have a snap shackle to reconnect to blocks on transom when wind 
comes up.  We also changed the lines in the blocks to smaller diameter 60 Ft a 
side so that when using checks we let the line out downwind rather than 
disconnecting.  These are not the pita we thought they would be but do add one 
extra thing to do when in use.

If all boats were swept back spreaders like cc99 and 115 we would not have this 
discussion.

Mike
Persistence
1987 Frees 33

From: CnC-List 
[cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf 
of scott gary via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: July 28, 2015 12:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: scott gary
Subject: Stus-List Running Back Stays

Hi All,

Looking at a 37/40XL and I know they have running back stays, anyone who has 
them, are they a pain in the neck, or do you not use them all the time.  I am 
not planning on doing much racing, mostly cruising.  I've heard of people on 
other types of boats just removing them all together.

Thanks,
Scott
C&C 35/3

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Stus-List 29 Again

[Harry Hallgring via CnC-List]

Happy birthday Mr. Risch!

Harry

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