Stus-List Re: Bottom paint- Pettit Black Widow

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

I’ve been using BW for about 5 years now. Buzz down with 80grit and recoat in the spring. Little hard growth, slime worthy of a cleaning every other week in the summer for racing. This year put 2 coats on, went nearly 8 weeks before it needed slime removal, still no hard growth. 2-3 weeks between cleanings since. Boat is in brackish water in upper Mt Hope Bay. Coat finish is passable without burnishing, and scotchbrite in the water makes it smoother as the season goes on. This has been the best year it’s performed thus far. Chuck BC&C41 TenaciousSomerset, MA Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 9, 2023, at 9:52 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:FWIW, on the Chesapeake, their Trinidad SR is the first choice.JoelOn Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 9:21 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:Thanks, David. That’s good to know. 

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA    02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Aug 9, 2023, at 08:49, David Knecht via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> I had my boat painted with Pettit Black Widow this spring after hearing some positive comments about it from members of this list.  I wanted to report back to others considering it that my diver says my boat has had the cleanest bottom in the mooring field all season.  He has dropped the cleaning frequency from every 2 weeks to every 3 weeks and still has very little cleaning to do even with that.  He is now convinced and telling other owners how good that paint is (in our area at least).  Dave
> 
> David Knecht
> Rear Commodore
> Thames Yacht Club
> New London, CT
> 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

And charged me for the rusty stand that went through the bottom of my boat!

*Chuck Borge*
*C&C 41*


On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 10:21 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Not only that but his was pushed over by the boats next to him that
> weren’t propped up properly AND the yard charged him $2500 to lift it
> upright again!
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Sep 19, 2022, at 09:59, David Risch via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Yup…my buddy’s C & C 40 fell over there!
>
>
>
> *From:* DJ via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 18, 2022 8:07 AM
> *To:* Stus-List 
> *Cc:* DJ 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
>
>
>
> Yea, I've heard some horror stories about that place!
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 12:14 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> As always, avoid Borden Light Marine in Fall River. Worst yard I've
> ever seen
>
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
>
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 12:05 PM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in
> Somerset Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat,
> could only launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a
> mast more than 50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they
> didn't care what you did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner
> bit of a crank.  Use with caution, I guess.
>
> Neil Gallagher
> Weatherly, 35-1
> Glen Cove, NY
>
> On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:
>
> No. I don't know anything about any of these yards except that they aren't
> owned by Safe Harbor.
>
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
>
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to
> the house!
>
>
>
> I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts
> on that facility?
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Danny,
>
> Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine
> up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned
> by Safe Harbor.
>
> Andy
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA 02840
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
>
>
> phone  +401 965 5260
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere
> around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay is an option too.
>
>
>
> The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little
> clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've
> done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that
> I'd like to protect.
>
>
>
> I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping it seems like a
> waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast up solution
> if possible.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!
>
>
>
> Danny
>
> Rum Runner IV
>
> T40
>
> Mattapoisett MA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Stus-List Re: C&C 41 thoughts?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Dave, 
I’ve had a 41 for four seasons now. Love this boat!
I moved up from the 34, and the difference is night and day. Roomy, powerful 
and a joy to sail. 
She is robustly built and survived a fall on the hard a few winters ago with 
reparable damage. 
Mine is the fin keeled, 8’ draft model, 3-spreader rig. Trucks upwind with just 
a #3, even better with the main & a manageable 125% Genoa. 
Nothing fancy, but comfy below. Cockpit is high sided and well protected. I can 
single-hand in most conditions. Though to be fair, I don’t push it if it’s 
blowing too hard... 25+kts. 
She’s an ‘84, Hull 053, and I’m finding no signs of mast step issues. Not much 
in the way of leaks and deck is solid. 
Good luck in your search, I have seen a cb model around here, and there are a 
few set up like mine as well.  Great boats!

Best, 
Chuck Borge
C&C41 Tenacious
Somerset, MA
Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 8:41 PM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Good evening all.
>  
> Am looking to stretch out a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in my 
> ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m exploring larger options.  Goal is shorthanded or 
> singlehanded daysailing and local cruising on the great lakes and possibly 
> Bahamas/Caribbean.  I’ll likely upgrade to a more substantial passagemaker 
> when I retire in 5 years or so.
>  
> A centreboard C&C 41 has piqued my interest of late, and if anyone can shed 
> some light on the evolution of the model and offer some informed commentary 
> or critique, I would greatly appreciate it.
>  
> I cannot find any reference to how many 41s were made, and I have not seen 
> any for sale that were made prior to ’84, though apparently it was first 
> produced in ’81.  
>  
> They were available with a variety of keels, mostly 7’ or more.
>  
> Photos of the earliest 41’s especially are very familiar to me, clearly they 
> are big sisters to  the 33-2 and 35-3, sharing many features, hardware and 
> materials.  
>  
> I am aware too that the 41 also shares a few of the 33-2/35-3 “gotchas” – 
> leaking windows and keel sump/mast step failures.   Is the keel sump/mast 
> step problem limited to fin-keeled boats, or is this also a problem with 
> centreboard boats?
>  
> Some seem to have had the handy but butt-cracking bridge deck traveller (like 
> the 33-2) filled with teak and relocated.  Brochures show the traveller at 
> the wheel and also on the cabin top.  Was traveller location an option, or 
> have many owners relocated this in the interest of comfort?  Thoughts? 
>  
> Some have forward-facing nav stations, with the typical smaller boat open 
> quarter berth, some (seemingly  later models) with the bigger-boat  
> rear-facing  nav station and an “aft cabin”  (more like an enclosed quarter 
> berth)
>  
> Some have with an opening tailgate through the transom, some not.
>  
> The galley cabinetry appears to have varied also.
>  
> And finally – a google search will turn up a fair bit of criticism of the 
> model, this surprised me.  Much of it is the usual opinion-fuelled opinion 
> (repeated ad nauseam), and some the usual sweeping generalizations regarding 
> IOR boats.  (I don’t plan to fly a spinnaker downwind in huge seas)  
> Wikipedia curiously states:“Designed by Robert Ball at the request of 
> C&C’s new owner Robert plaxton, who wanted [an IOR design]”
> Many commentators also suggest that the 41 is particularly racing-biased, and 
> therefore makes a less than ideal choice for single or shorthanded sailing.   
> The brochure suggests the 41 was a production development of a custom racing 
> model. 
>  
> I will likely visit the boat this week, and can certainly form my own opinion 
> much of this, but would very much welcome any thoughts.   Many thanks in 
> advance!
>  
> Dave  -  33-2 (for now).
>  
> 
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
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Stus-List Re: C&C 41 thoughts?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Dave, 
I’ve had a 41 for four seasons now. Love this boat!
I moved up from the 34, and the difference is night and day. Roomy, powerful 
and a joy to sail. 
She is robustly built and survived a fall on the hard a few winters ago with 
reparable damage. 
Mine is the fin keeled, 8’ draft model, 3-spreader rig. Trucks upwind with just 
a #3, even better with the main & a manageable 125% Genoa. 
Nothing fancy, but comfy below. Cockpit is high sided and well protected. I can 
single-hand in most conditions. Though to be fair, I don’t push it if it’s 
blowing too hard... 25+kts. 
She’s an ‘84, Hull 053, and I’m finding no signs of mast step issues. Not much 
in the way of leaks and deck is solid. 
Good luck in your search, I have seen a cb model around here, and there are a 
few set up like mine as well.  Great boats!

Best, 
Chuck Borge
C&C41 Tenacious
Somerset, MA
Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 8:41 PM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Good evening all.
>  
> Am looking to stretch out a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in my 
> ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m exploring larger options.  Goal is shorthanded or 
> singlehanded daysailing and local cruising on the great lakes and possibly 
> Bahamas/Caribbean.  I’ll likely upgrade to a more substantial passagemaker 
> when I retire in 5 years or so.
>  
> A centreboard C&C 41 has piqued my interest of late, and if anyone can shed 
> some light on the evolution of the model and offer some informed commentary 
> or critique, I would greatly appreciate it.
>  
> I cannot find any reference to how many 41s were made, and I have not seen 
> any for sale that were made prior to ’84, though apparently it was first 
> produced in ’81.  
>  
> They were available with a variety of keels, mostly 7’ or more.
>  
> Photos of the earliest 41’s especially are very familiar to me, clearly they 
> are big sisters to  the 33-2 and 35-3, sharing many features, hardware and 
> materials.   
>  
> I am aware too that the 41 also shares a few of the 33-2/35-3 “gotchas” – 
> leaking windows and keel sump/mast step failures.   Is the keel sump/mast 
> step problem limited to fin-keeled boats, or is this also a problem with 
> centreboard boats?
>  
> Some seem to have had the handy but butt-cracking bridge deck traveller (like 
> the 33-2) filled with teak and relocated.  Brochures show the traveller at 
> the wheel and also on the cabin top.  Was traveller location an option, or 
> have many owners relocated this in the interest of comfort?  Thoughts?  
>  
> Some have forward-facing nav stations, with the typical smaller boat open 
> quarter berth, some (seemingly  later models) with the bigger-boat  
> rear-facing  nav station and an “aft cabin”  (more like an enclosed quarter 
> berth)
>  
> Some have with an opening tailgate through the transom, some not.
>  
> The galley cabinetry appears to have varied also.
>  
> And finally – a google search will turn up a fair bit of criticism of the 
> model, this surprised me.  Much of it is the usual opinion-fuelled opinion 
> (repeated ad nauseam), and some the usual sweeping generalizations regarding 
> IOR boats.  (I don’t plan to fly a spinnaker downwind in huge seas)  
> Wikipedia curiously states:“Designed by Robert Ball at the request of 
> C&C’s new owner Robert plaxton, who wanted [an IOR design]”
> Many commentators also suggest that the 41 is particularly racing-biased, and 
> therefore makes a less than ideal choice for single or shorthanded sailing.   
> The brochure suggests the 41 was a production development of a custom racing 
> model.  
>  
> I will likely visit the boat this week, and can certainly form my own opinion 
> much of this, but would very much welcome any thoughts.   Many thanks in 
> advance!
>  
> Dave  -  33-2 (for now).
>  
> 
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 19, 2021, at 8:41 PM, Dave via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Good evening all.
>  
> Am looking to stretch out a bit, and much as I’ve enjoyed and invested in my 
> ’85 33-2 Windstar, I’m exploring larger options.  Goal is shorthanded or 
> singlehanded daysailing and local cruising on the great lakes and possibly 
> Bahamas/Caribbean.  I’ll likely upgrade to a more substantial passagemaker 
> when I retire in 5 years or so.
>  
> A centreboard C&C 41 has piqued my interest of late, and if anyone can shed 
> some light on the evolution of the model and offer some informed commentary 
> or critique, I would greatly appreciate it.
>  
> I cannot find any reference to how many 41s were made, and I have not seen 
> any for sale that were made prior to ’84, though apparently it was first 
> produced in ’81.  
>  
> They were available with a variety of keels, mostly 

Stus-List Re: Documenting the boat

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Maybe my experience was not typical, but it was pretty easy if you have the 
required documents referred to on the USCG site. 
Proof of ownership and any PO liens released then a transfer form if she is 
already documented and you’re there. 
Takes a while and was regular mail a few years ago, but not hard to do. 
Good luck,
Chuck Borge
C&C41
Tenacious
Somerset, MA

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> On May 14, 2021, at 3:11 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> So my “charter” is up and I now officially own Masquerade. Now I have to 
> document her. How difficult is the process to do yourself? Any tips or advice 
> would be much appreciated. 
> I could use a service but the president of our local service has always been 
> pretty miserable to deal with so I don’t particularly want to spend my money 
> there. 
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA 02840
> 
> +401 965 5260
> https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List A & H Hatch struts...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi David,
I replaced my forward and main salon hatches this spring. 
Do you have a picture of what you need? 
I’ll see if I can scavenge one if I have it. 
Best,
Chuck B
Tenacious
C&C 41
Somerset, MA

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> On Aug 25, 2020, at 3:10 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Buying hatch strut for my 1981 40-2 forward hatch.  Rather give money to 
> fellow listers if they have spares they want to get rid of.
>  
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stus-List NVDC online payment

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Dennis,

I did enter from the NVDC site.
Did you  get it to open?
I keep getting this message:

This site can’t be reached

*www.pay.gov <http://www.pay.gov>*’s server IP address could not be found.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN


Maybe I need to clear my cache?

*Chuck Borge*
*508-642-3557*


On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 6:53 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Did you enter from the VDC site?  Try this link:
> https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/1175233
>
>   --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:49 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> It's document renewal time for us, and I'm trying to renew our Vessel
>> Documentation but the pay.gov site to pay online seems to be down...
>> anyone else have that problem?
>>
>>
>> *Chuck Borge*
>> *Tenacious *
>> *C&C 41*
>> *Somerset, MA*
>>
>>
>
>
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Stus-List NVDC online payment

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hello all,

It's document renewal time for us, and I'm trying to renew our Vessel
Documentation but the pay.gov site to pay online seems to be down... anyone
else have that problem?


*Chuck Borge*
*Tenacious *
*C&C 41*
*Somerset, MA*
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[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

While every boat is beautiful to her owner, I’ll go ahead and agree with you 
there!

Chuck B
C&C 41
Tenacious
Somerset, MA

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> On Jul 23, 2020, at 2:32 PM, Len Mitchell via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Recognizing that prettiest is subjective and that I am partial to the 37/40, 
> I have always loved the lines of a C&C 41 with the C&C 39 a close second. 
> Simply beautiful boats! 
> Len Mitchell 
> Crazy Legs
> 1989 37+
> Midland On. 
> 
> Sent from my mobile device. 
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Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Yikes!
I stand corrected. The Northeast 39 is a beautiful design, regardless. 

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> On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Rob Ball via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow - Different boats . . .
> 
> The C&C 39 was designed before the C&C actual formation - before the IOR rule 
>  . . .
> 
> The C&C 41 is a much later design - much larger (longer waterline) designed 
> in the hayday of IOR . . .
> 
> The Northeast 39 was a limited production run at the Custom Shop - higher 
> level of construction . . . 
> 
> I'm not that familiar with the construction details of the 39 (before my 
> time) . . .
> The 41 I think of as robust powerful boat . . .
> The northeast I think of as refined  . . . .
> 
> Rob Ball   C&C 34
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Re: Stus-List CnC 39? Comments please

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Will,

There is a 1985 Northeast 39 here in Portsmouth that is nearly the same boat as 
the 41, and was completely refit. I nearly scooped it up before I took on 
repairing mine. 
Worth a look. It’s listed on yachtworld.  I think there is room to negotiate. 

Also, I’m still thinking about the #2, will contact you directly on that later. 

Best regards,
Chuck B
C&C 41
Tenacious
Somerset, MA


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Re: Stus-List On the rocks

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

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> On Jun 1, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Will Gerstmyer via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Our first sail of the season - beautiful beam reach most of the day from 
> Portland to Boothbay Harbor, our C&C 41 topping 9 knots! Unfortunately we 
> took our eye off the current when we pulled up our first anchoring attempt 
> (too close to lobster pots) and drifted into ledge. In the pounding I 
> couldn't think straight to weight the boom and heel so our deep keel could 
> tip over into being a not-too-deep keelHelp came but not soon enough. 
> We have a brand new (1-day of use) North Sails 125% genny if you have a boat 
> like ours with furling. 
> Don't forget all your tricks when you head out! 
> 
> 
> Will Gerstmyer LEED
> Will Gerstmyer Architect
> 15 Ives St #36 Beverly MA 01915
> 978.609.1331
> www.gerstmyer.info
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Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Denatured alcohol will breakdown epoxy resin. But it may take a lot if soaking 
and blotting. 
Good luck. 
Chuck B
C&C41
Tenacious 

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> On May 11, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Graham, 
> Didn't think of that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Rebecca Leah 
> C&C Landfall 39
> Port Orchard yacht club
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Graham Collins via CnC-List 
> Date: 5/11/20 17:23 (GMT-08:00)
> To: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
> Cc: Graham Collins 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Spilled Epoxy
> 
> I'd guess you are out of luck, but were I you I'd ask whomever made the resin 
> the question.  Any cleanup instructions on the can?
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
> On 2020-05-11 8:41 p.m., Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote:
>> I need help. I spilled epoxy resin on my brand new upholstery, and it went 
>> unnoticed for several days, so it has soaked into the new foam also. The 
>> area is about 6 sq inches. My question is what do I use to remove the resin 
>> with out damaging the foam?
>> I am not to worried about the fabric as I sewed it myself and have plenty 
>> left over. 
>> Thanks in advance
>> Doug
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 253-208-1412
>> Port Orchard YC, WA
>> sv Rebecca Leah
>> C&C LandFall 39
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C Lister Roll Call

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Edd,

Chuck Borge
Tenacious
C&C 41, 1984
33711
Somerset, MA
chuckbo...@gmail.com

Thanks for keeping a contingency plan for the list.
Best regards,
Chuck


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On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:53 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> In my spare time, I’m going to start working on an email list / bulletin
> board / photo archive / information center website for C&C Owners, that
> will act as a supplement and perhaps one day, *only* when Stu says he’s
> no longer interested in continuing on, act as a replacement to the service
> we are using now.
>
> I’d like to start compiling a database of C&C Owners. When you have a
> moment, please respond to this email (either to the whole list or by direct
> email to me) with the following information:
>
> Name / Boat name / C&C Model / C&C Year / Sail number / Email Address /
> Home Port
>
> For example:
> Edd Schillay / Starship Enterprise / C&C 37/40+ / 1990 / NCC-1701-B /
> e...@schillay.com / Venice Island, FL
>
> Thanks to all.
>
> And for those of you up north who are reviewing/signing their winter
> haul-out and storage contracts, I can now say, “Nah, Nah. Na-Na Nah!"
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Captain of the Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
>
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
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Re: Stus-List Air draft for C&C 41 (regular production model, 1986)

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Now you’ve got me wondering...
Since the mast step shoe is at cabin sole level on the transverse grid 
structure, it’s well above the keel sump and associated bolts. 
That said, it may still be below the waterline, but not much. 
I think I’ll take some actual measurements once she is out of the water this 
fall. 

Chuck 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2019, at 5:49 PM, Neil Andersen  
> wrote:
> 
> Keel stepped is by definition below the waterline, but it certainly gives you 
> a safe height (a couple of feet to spare).
> 
> Neil
> 1982 C&C 32, FoxFire
> Rock Hall, MD
> 
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>  
>  
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Chuck Borge via 
> CnC-List 
> Sent: Friday, September 27, 2019 5:44 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Chuck Borge
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Air draft for C&C 41 (regular production model, 1986)
>  
> When my mast was removed this past Spring, they charged me by the foot, and 
> measured 62’. Assuming the step is at the waterline and your instruments are 
> under 2’ above the stick, 64’ is safe. That’s the number I go with. The 
> Sakonnet River Bridge in Tiverton, RI claims 64’ at high tide, and we haven’t 
> nicked it yet. 
> Although I will say that first time made me a bit nervous. 
> Hope that helps. 
> 
> Chuck B
> C&C41 Tenacious
> Somerset, MA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 27, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
>> I taped a 100 foot tape to the top of a long stick then taped the bottom of 
>> the stick to a halyard, hoisted it so the top of the stick (and tape) was 
>> raised over the masthead and was even with the tallest thing on the mast 
>> (VHF antenna), then put the tape on the water.  This method should yield a 
>> result which is a couple inches longer than the actual draft.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 2:31 PM joyce mango via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hi-
>>> 
>>> Really struggling to get exact measurement of our mast above waterline on 
>>> C&C 41 1986 (just the normal design model) to see if we could do the 
>>> "Hatteras bypass" stretch of the ditch.   I'm thinking our air draft is 63 
>>> feet, approx, but don't want to hit our newly purchased boat's mast!   
>>> Anyone know how I can get a more exact measure - did the halyard thing, but 
>>> measuring from mast to waterline seems impossibly imprecise
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joyce
>>> 
>>> L. Eleanor Joyce Mango
>>> joycemang...@gmail.com
>>> 978.270.2991
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Air draft for C&C 41 (regular production model, 1986)

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

When my mast was removed this past Spring, they charged me by the foot, and 
measured 62’. Assuming the step is at the waterline and your instruments are 
under 2’ above the stick, 64’ is safe. That’s the number I go with. The 
Sakonnet River Bridge in Tiverton, RI claims 64’ at high tide, and we haven’t 
nicked it yet. 
Although I will say that first time made me a bit nervous. 
Hope that helps. 

Chuck B
C&C41 Tenacious
Somerset, MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I taped a 100 foot tape to the top of a long stick then taped the bottom of 
> the stick to a halyard, hoisted it so the top of the stick (and tape) was 
> raised over the masthead and was even with the tallest thing on the mast (VHF 
> antenna), then put the tape on the water.  This method should yield a result 
> which is a couple inches longer than the actual draft.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 2:31 PM joyce mango via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi-
>> 
>> Really struggling to get exact measurement of our mast above waterline on 
>> C&C 41 1986 (just the normal design model) to see if we could do the 
>> "Hatteras bypass" stretch of the ditch.   I'm thinking our air draft is 63 
>> feet, approx, but don't want to hit our newly purchased boat's mast!   
>> Anyone know how I can get a more exact measure - did the halyard thing, but 
>> measuring from mast to waterline seems impossibly imprecise
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joyce
>> 
>> L. Eleanor Joyce Mango
>> joycemang...@gmail.com
>> 978.270.2991
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Straightening Stanchions...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

David,
I have some stanchions that did not break or bend in our incident last winter. 
You are welcome to whatever is still good. I replaced all the stanchions and 
bases.
One thing, though, is that they are pretty “salt-fused” in the sockets. I can 
check when I get home for exactly what I have intact. 
Best,
Chuck B
C&C41 Tenacious
Somerset, MA

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> On May 21, 2019, at 9:47 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi David, 
> I straightened two of my stanchions using gentle persuasion. 
> I think I used a piece of pipe over the outside and clamped the pipe into a 
> bench vise. 
> Then I slipped the stanchion into the pipe and using another longer section 
> of pipe, hand bent the thing straight. 
> 
> Chuck S
> 
>> On May 21, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Risch via CnC-List  
>> wrote: 
>> 
>> Hello,
>>  
>> A few of my stanchions on my 1981  are not as straight as I would like due 
>> to years of use and the yard shrink-wrapping around them to the deck.  
>> Anyone try to straighten theirs?  I understanding cold bending S/S is  not 
>> too fatiguing within reason…although they are stanchions and any fatigue 
>> might be detrimental. 
>>  
>> Thanks in advance.
>>  
>>  
>> David F. Risch
>> Gulf Stream Associates
>> (401) 419-4650
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
> 
>  
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Drawer hole trim

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Thanks for all the suggestions!
Chuck B
C&C41 Tenacious
Somerset,MA

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> On May 8, 2019, at 12:51 PM, Dreuge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I recently purchased 8 teak finger pulls at a site called bikesomewhere.com.  
>  These are made by Whitecap and come 2 in a pack in lengths of 5/8” or 1”.  I 
> purchased 2 packages of each and received 25% off with free shipping via 
> Google Express checkout.   Total cost delivered was $13.89.Most other 
> online suppliers I came across wanted $10 just for the shipping.
> 
> I was really surprised that a bike site would have teak products.  Below is a 
> link to all of their teak stuff. Some good prices, some not.
> 
> https://www.bikesomewhere.com/search-results?q=teak
> 
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C Landfall 38 
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
> 
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 8, 2019, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>> 
>> Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 17:23:45 +
>> From: David Risch 
>> To: CNC CNC 
>> Subject: Stus-List Drawer hole trim
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Anyone know of a source for the black plastic hole trim for our drawers?
> 
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Re: Stus-List Drawer hole trim

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Or the wood ones?
Chuck B

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> On May 7, 2019, at 1:23 PM, David Risch via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone know of a source for the black plastic hole trim for our drawers?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Stus-List Gelcoat color

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Good suggestions all.  I was able to get my hands on an AwlGrip card.  It
seems that I'm in the neighborhood of Insignia White, Fleet White or Off
White.
Kinda surprising as it appeared there was more of a gray tone.
Thanks for the help.


*Chuck Borge*
*Tenacious C&C41*
*Somerset, MA*


On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:08 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Get a color sample card from Awlgrip. The samples have a hole in the
> middle of each color. Hold the card against the hull and peek through the
> hole.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touché 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 8, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Marc Boyd via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I'd be really interested in finding out the colour code for my newly
> acquired '73 33' :-) She is Red. Any help, advice or direction would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> marc.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 4:05 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Ken
>>
>> This was addressed a while (years?) back on this list.  We also have the
>> smoke white.  White base then so many drops of brown, yellow and red as I
>> recall.  When I get a moment will see if I can find it in my records
>>
>>
>>
>> John and Maryann
>>
>> Legacy III
>>
>> 1982 C&C 34
>>
>> Noank, CT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken
>> Heaton via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Sunday, April 07, 2019 8:26 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list
>> *Cc:* Ken Heaton
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Gelcoat color
>>
>>
>>
>> The most common deck colour by far was "Smoke White".  There were a few
>> "Neptunus White" and a very few were actually "Pure White or "White".
>>
>>
>>
>> Renting the swatch book as Dennis suggests is a very good idea I'd think.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 at 19:25, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Looking for input on original gelcoat color name/number for our venerable
>> C&Cs.
>>
>> My 41 is what I thought was white (but as my wife can attest, my color
>> vision leave much to be desired) however, as I put a spot of base white on
>> a repair, it is way off.
>>
>> Does anyone know what color I'm trying to match?  I get the 35 years of
>> elements taking their toll, but the gelcoat is pretty thick on these boats,
>> and I may sand out some of the patina which will put me closer to the
>> original color.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chuck Borge*
>>
>> *Tenacious C&C41*
>>
>> *Somerset, MA*
>>
>>
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Stus-List Gelcoat color

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Looking for input on original gelcoat color name/number for our venerable
C&Cs.
My 41 is what I thought was white (but as my wife can attest, my color
vision leave much to be desired) however, as I put a spot of base white on
a repair, it is way off.
Does anyone know what color I'm trying to match?  I get the 35 years of
elements taking their toll, but the gelcoat is pretty thick on these boats,
and I may sand out some of the patina which will put me closer to the
original color.
Thanks in advance,

Chuck

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*Tenacious C&C41*
*Somerset, MA*
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Re: Stus-List Special recipe?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

I've been using Pledge Restore & Shine oil in a spray bottle.  Seems to do
the trick.

*Chuck Borge*
*C&C 41 *
*Tenacious*


On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:25 PM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Lemon oil.  Inexpensive.  Liberally coat rag to apply.  Let stand for 15
> min or so.  Wipe down again with dry rag.  Easy peazy no muss or fuss.
> Lemon gives nice scent and seems to deal with mildew well.  Teak looks
> great for the season.  I apply each year usually in March before cover
> comes off so is comfortable down below.  Takes about 4 man hours
>
>
>
>
>
> John and Maryann
>
> Legacy III
>
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> Noank, CT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David
> via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:27 PM
> *To:* CNC CNC
> *Cc:* David
> *Subject:* Stus-List Special recipe?
>
>
>
> One more rime...for the oil for the bulkheads?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Get Outlook for Android
>
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Re: Stus-List Stern rail for a 41

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Thanks for the replies.
I don't have spec sheets or build files for the 41, but I can take detailed
measurements which will help.
I'll check out White Water Marine for as well.

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*508-642-3557*
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Stus-List Stern rail for a 41

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hello all,

Nearly 2 weeks after her tumble, I'm trying to get our 41 back together and
looking to source some parts.
Thus far it seems like we have more composite and gelcoat repair than
broken parts. As long as things work out with insurance and logistics, we
hope to make a full recovery.
Since all my stanchions and most bases were damaged, I will be replacing
all of them along with the lifelines.  I found that South Shore Yacht in
Ontario may have all that I need there. The Bow rail suffered a slight
bend, but fixable.  The stern rail, on the other hand... looks like it will
need a lot of work.  It might be more economical to find a decent used
one.  Here's where I need some help.
Any ideas?  Also, would anyone know if we would be close in dimension to
any other design (even a non-C&C)?  Maybe I can swap in something close.

Thanks in advance,
Chuck

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*C&C 41 Tenacious*
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Chuck,
You make a lot of valid points, and raise some good questions. 
On the cause, I’ll report back once the insurance folks have had a review, 
though I have my suspicions. 
Repair is my best option if the insurance will cover it. Tenacious was an 
excellent specimen, in my opinion, and I’d like to keep her. 
I work with a great group of boatbuilders and am sure that if is possible, they 
can get her right. 
Best,
Chuck B

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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Thanks for the note, Andy.  I'll anxiously wait for the wheels to get in
motion.  The pain of seeing my boat nose down in the gravel is hard, having
to wait for an action plan just adds to it.

*Chuck Borge*
*508-642-3557*


On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:04 PM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> The insurance company will assign a surveyor to assess the damage. Try to
> be there when he is and go through everything with him. Talk to your agent.
> Feel free to pester him with questions and help moving things along. And
> then for dog's sake do not allow that yard to do any work on your boat! My
> new boat was there when I bought her a year ago and I had the feeling they
> hate sailboats and their owners and they know nothing about them.
> I've dealt with hundreds of yards and had pretty positive experiences with
> almost all. Borden Light was by far the worst!
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA02842
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Feb 26, 2019, at 18:53, Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Reaching out to Rob Ball with this one...  or maybe anyone who has dealt
> with this kind of damage...
> It was my 41 that took a nose dive into the gravel yard this week.
> Two biggest areas of concern prior to her being righted and ready for a
> full inspection are a stand that punctured the hull and stuck in about a
> foot, and a "punch" on her nose that shows a crack that goes about 8-10
> inches down and back on both sides of the bow, below the waterline.
> I'm hopeful that the impalement will not be the hardest repair.  On the
> other hand, what structure lurks in the bow at/below the waterline that I
> should be aware of?
> Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.  I probably won't
> sleep until I have a plan of action from the yard, insurance...
>
> Best regards,
>
> *Chuck Borge*
> *Tenacious C&C 41*
> *508-642-3557*
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:51 PM Steve Staten via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> My boat, C’Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is in a drowned
>> ravine on the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last December, a rare
>> easterly storm threw high winds and waves down the length of it. Many of us
>> had our dock lines frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A boat just down
>> from me was de-masted because the stays were a bit loose.
>> I’m lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse to
>> replace all of them.
>> Steve Staten
>> “C’Est La Vie”, C&C 26’
>> Langley, OK, USA
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Reaching out to Rob Ball with this one...  or maybe anyone who has dealt
with this kind of damage...
It was my 41 that took a nose dive into the gravel yard this week.
Two biggest areas of concern prior to her being righted and ready for a
full inspection are a stand that punctured the hull and stuck in about a
foot, and a "punch" on her nose that shows a crack that goes about 8-10
inches down and back on both sides of the bow, below the waterline.
I'm hopeful that the impalement will not be the hardest repair.  On the
other hand, what structure lurks in the bow at/below the waterline that I
should be aware of?
Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.  I probably won't
sleep until I have a plan of action from the yard, insurance...

Best regards,

*Chuck Borge*
*Tenacious C&C 41*
*508-642-3557*


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cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My boat, C’Est La Vie, is in a slip on a marina that is in a drowned
> ravine on the reservoir. It has an East/West axis. Last December, a rare
> easterly storm threw high winds and waves down the length of it. Many of us
> had our dock lines frayed to pieces in the tossing about. A boat just down
> from me was de-masted because the stays were a bit loose.
> I’m lucky. Only my dock lines were damaged. Now, I have an excuse to
> replace all of them.
> Steve Staten
> “C’Est La Vie”, C&C 26’
> Langley, OK, USA
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Re: Stus-List Lady Down...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Unfortunately my boat was the first in line. A C&C41 that we’ve had just under 
a year. 
Not a good scene. 
Hoping we all come out ok. 
Chuck B


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> On Feb 26, 2019, at 10:50 AM, David via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> One of our brethren, Double Black, a C & C 40, owned by Adam Marks, was 
> tumbled upon in the hard and fell over.  High winds, flapping canvas and 
> un-stepped masts all contributed to the 3 boat domino effect.   Oddly enough 
> the first boat was also a C&C...a 37/40 I believe.  
> 
> Double Black attended a number of our New England Rendezvouss.   
> 
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[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hey Listers,
I'm looking for a decent used #2 for a C&C41. Is there one gathering dust
in need of a new home?
Thanks in advance for any leads...

Chuck B
C&C 41 Tenacious
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay tension

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Tom, 
Can you tell me more about your boom furler?
Considering one for my 41. 
Brand, fitment, pix if you can... price if you’re comfortable, too

Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 41 
Tenacious
Somerset, MA

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> On Aug 3, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gary
> 
> Mainsail tuning on Alera is limited anyway.   The in boom furling main has a 
> rigid vang.  So, tuning the mail limited to furling in the main while not 
> slacking the halyard and using the baby stay to flatten the main.  That's 
> about it for us.  But, the ease of two handing with a couple of old farts is 
> priceless. ;)
> 
> Tom B  
> ¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤.
> Tom & Lynn Buscaglia
> SV Alera
> C&C 37+/40
> Vashon Island WA
> (206) 463-9200
> www.sv-alera.com 
> 
> 
> 
> At 07:31 AM 8/3/2018, you wrote:
> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 10:20:55 -0400
>> From: Gary Russell 
>> To: "C&C List" 
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Backstay tension
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Tom,
>>  The back stay with baby stay make a dramatic difference in the
>> handling and performance of the boat upwind when it starts to blow.  I do
>> agree that the absence of the back stay adjuster reduces stress on the rig
>> and the captain.  I can't imagine the chaos if the back stay attachments
>> failed.
>> 
>> Gary
>> S/V Kaylarah
>> '90 C&C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>> 
>> ~~~_/)~~
> .
> 
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet set-up

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Thanks for the input Rick.
Today I added a double block at the bottom of the 2:1 and a single block at
the top on a second boom bale.  I'm not sure if that effectively makes it
4:1, 3:1 or not, but the  main was much easier to trim as we sailed today
in about 10-12 kts of breeze.  As suggested by both you and Josh, I added a
snap shackle at the traveler so I can move the boom to the rail when at the
mooring with guests...
I totally spaced out taking some pics today as I as testing the new
arrangement.  Will try to get some for more input.

Best,
Chuck


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*508-642-3557*

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Chuck;
>
>
>
> The arrangement on my 38 is essentially the same as the arrangement on
> Josh’s boat, except that I have only a 3:1 purchase on the end of the sheet
> at the traveler instead of Josh’s 12:1 cascade system. The other end of the
> sheet runs forward under the boom, down to the deck, and then back to a
> clutch and a Barient 27 self-tailing winch on the cabin top.
>
>
>
> 3:1 is adequate for almost all conditions  but there is about 20’ or so of
> sheet to deal with. That goes into a sheet bag I’ve installed on the side
> of the cockpit well, and the mainsheet trimmer keeps it out from under foot
> when I have crew. If I’m single handing, the sheet is laid on the cockpit
> seats so I can reach it from behind the wheel.
>
>
>
> Remember: Reef early, reef often. The boat is faster when it is not
> overcanvassed.
>
>
>
> The Barient 27 is equivalent to a Harken 46 or Lewmar 48, so there is
> plenty of mechanical advantage available on those rare occasions when
> someone need to grunt the boom in against heavy winds.
>
>
>
> I also have a snap shackle connecting the block on the mainsheet to the
> traveler. I generally keep the boom clipped to the toe rail on the side
> away from the dock in order to keep the companionway unobstructed, and it
> has to be out of the cockpit when I put up the cockpit enclosure when
> cruising.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
> Borge via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 9, 2018 3:00 PM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Chuck Borge 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List mainsheet set-up
>
>
>
> Thanks Josh, that was really helpful.
>
> I'm going to play around with some (or all) of your ideas, for sure!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
> *Chuck Borge*
>
> *508-642-3557*
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Chuck, I took a video for ya.
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/VNUGnNAGsDo
>
>
>
> Josh Muckley
>
> S/V Sea Hawk
>
> 1989 C&C 37+
>
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet set-up

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Thanks Josh, that was really helpful.
I'm going to play around with some (or all) of your ideas, for sure!

Cheers,
Chuck


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*508-642-3557*

On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Chuck, I took a video for ya.
>
> https://youtu.be/VNUGnNAGsDo
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 12:34 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>> That’s a cool setup.
>> I may steal elements of that and as Mike noted, I can always trim main on
>> the primaries.
>> Not having a rats nest on the cockpit floor is a benefit. And mark
>> roundings are easier with the 2:1, at least until we get to the last 20% or
>> so.
>> Next project will be making the traveler easier to adjust from the helm
>> as well.
>> It may be as simple as flopping the fiddle blocks.
>> I’ll take some pix this weekend for input.
>> Thanks,
>> Chuck
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 8, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> I have seen your setup on a C&C 115.  The 115 typically has the main
>> sheet on either side go directly from traveler to aft winches but on the
>> 115 I mentioned it went along boom to mast and then down and back.
>>
>>
>>
>> With your current setup could you not use the primaries for the main
>> sheet when you wish to use the secondaries (aft winches) for your jib?
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Persistence
>>
>> Halifax, NS
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Borge via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 08, 2018 11:07 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Chuck Borge
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List mainsheet set-up
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh,
>>
>> Thanks for jumping in.
>>
>> 
>> For reference, it looks like this diagram.
>>
>> The traveler is on the bridge deck. The problem is the purchase. I might
>> add a triple at the top and move the double to the bottom. That will give
>> me 3:1 instead. But it doesn’t solve my wanting to trim the jib on the aft
>> winches.
>>
>> Before I go buy a more traditional cascading set up like the Ronstan
>> RP72900 4:1/8:1, I want to think it out.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Chuck,
>>
>>
>>
>> Any chance you have some pictures?  I tried google and sailboatdata but
>> can't tell if your boat has a cabin top traveler or a cockpit traveler?
>>
>>
>>
>> Just for clarity, are you having trouble trimming the traveler or the
>> mainsheet?
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>>
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>>
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>>
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 9:54 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone with a C&C 41 have suggestions on a mainsheet set-up?
>>
>> My new-to-me boat has a "German" mainsheet set-up that runs to the runner
>> winches.  It's supposed to be the hot set-up but I'm not impressed.
>>
>> Since I'm using a 97% r/f jib, I find tacking that alone using the runner
>> winches to be pretty easy, but what to do with the main?   Also the 2:1
>> nature of the German set-up is not really that easy to trim, even with the
>> winches.
>>
>> I'm thinking I'd like a 4:1/8:1 more traditional set-up or a reasonable
>> suggestion(?).
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Chuck Borge*
>>
>> *C&C 41 Tenacious*
>>
>> *(formerly C&C 34 Elusive)*
>>
>> *Somerset, MA*
>>
>> *508-642-3557*
>>
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet set-up

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Josh,
That’s a cool setup. 
I may steal elements of that and as Mike noted, I can always trim main on the 
primaries. 
Not having a rats nest on the cockpit floor is a benefit. And mark roundings 
are easier with the 2:1, at least until we get to the last 20% or so. 
Next project will be making the traveler easier to adjust from the helm as 
well. 
It may be as simple as flopping the fiddle blocks. 
I’ll take some pix this weekend for input. 
Thanks,
Chuck

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2018, at 10:41 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chuck
>  
> I have seen your setup on a C&C 115.  The 115 typically has the main sheet on 
> either side go directly from traveler to aft winches but on the 115 I 
> mentioned it went along boom to mast and then down and back. 
>  
> With your current setup could you not use the primaries for the main sheet 
> when you wish to use the secondaries (aft winches) for your jib?
>  
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Borge via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 11:07 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Chuck Borge
> Subject: Re: Stus-List mainsheet set-up
>  
> Josh, 
> Thanks for jumping in. 
> 
> For reference, it looks like this diagram. 
> The traveler is on the bridge deck. The problem is the purchase. I might add 
> a triple at the top and move the double to the bottom. That will give me 3:1 
> instead. But it doesn’t solve my wanting to trim the jib on the aft winches. 
> Before I go buy a more traditional cascading set up like the Ronstan RP72900 
> 4:1/8:1, I want to think it out. 
>  
> Best,
> Chuck
>  
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
>  
> Any chance you have some pictures?  I tried google and sailboatdata but can't 
> tell if your boat has a cabin top traveler or a cockpit traveler?
>  
> Just for clarity, are you having trouble trimming the traveler or the 
> mainsheet?
>  
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk 
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
>  
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 9:54 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>  
> Anyone with a C&C 41 have suggestions on a mainsheet set-up?
> My new-to-me boat has a "German" mainsheet set-up that runs to the runner 
> winches.  It's supposed to be the hot set-up but I'm not impressed. 
> Since I'm using a 97% r/f jib, I find tacking that alone using the runner 
> winches to be pretty easy, but what to do with the main?   Also the 2:1 
> nature of the German set-up is not really that easy to trim, even with the 
> winches.
> I'm thinking I'd like a 4:1/8:1 more traditional set-up or a reasonable 
> suggestion(?).
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>  
> Chuck Borge
> C&C 41 Tenacious
> (formerly C&C 34 Elusive)
> Somerset, MA
> 508-642-3557
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Re: Stus-List mainsheet set-up

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Josh, 
Thanks for jumping in. 

For reference, it looks like this diagram. 
The traveler is on the bridge deck. The problem is the purchase. I might add a 
triple at the top and move the double to the bottom. That will give me 3:1 
instead. But it doesn’t solve my wanting to trim the jib on the aft winches. 
Before I go buy a more traditional cascading set up like the Ronstan RP72900 
4:1/8:1, I want to think it out. 

Best,
Chuck


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> Any chance you have some pictures?  I tried google and sailboatdata but can't 
> tell if your boat has a cabin top traveler or a cockpit traveler?
> 
> Just for clarity, are you having trouble trimming the traveler or the 
> mainsheet?
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk 
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 9:54 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Listers,
>> 
>> Anyone with a C&C 41 have suggestions on a mainsheet set-up?
>> My new-to-me boat has a "German" mainsheet set-up that runs to the runner 
>> winches.  It's supposed to be the hot set-up but I'm not impressed. 
>> Since I'm using a 97% r/f jib, I find tacking that alone using the runner 
>> winches to be pretty easy, but what to do with the main?   Also the 2:1 
>> nature of the German set-up is not really that easy to trim, even with the 
>> winches.
>> I'm thinking I'd like a 4:1/8:1 more traditional set-up or a reasonable 
>> suggestion(?).
>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>> 
>> Chuck Borge
>> C&C 41 Tenacious
>> (formerly C&C 34 Elusive)
>> Somerset, MA
>> 508-642-3557
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Stus-List mainsheet set-up

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Listers,

Anyone with a C&C 41 have suggestions on a mainsheet set-up?
My new-to-me boat has a "German" mainsheet set-up that runs to the runner
winches.  It's supposed to be the hot set-up but I'm not impressed.
Since I'm using a 97% r/f jib, I find tacking that alone using the runner
winches to be pretty easy, but what to do with the main?   Also the 2:1
nature of the German set-up is not really that easy to trim, even with the
winches.
I'm thinking I'd like a 4:1/8:1 more traditional set-up or a reasonable
suggestion(?).
Thanks in advance for the help.

*Chuck Borge*
*C&C 41 Tenacious*
*(formerly C&C 34 Elusive)*
*Somerset, MA*
*508-642-3557*
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Stus-List Bomar hatch gaskets

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hey All,

I have recently acquired a C&C 41 (any one interested in a 34, please
contact me!) and I would like to replace Bomar Hatch gaskets.  It appears
they are all the same spec and vintage.  Does anyone have a good source and
also tell me what size to order?

thanks,
Chuck

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Re: Stus-List C&C 35 Mk II for sale

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

While we are on the subject, I'm selling my C&C 34 which is also in very
good condition, looking for a price in the upper teens with offers
considered as I have closed on a new (to us) boat.
Please pass the word to anyone who might be interested.
She can be seen here:
https://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-34/6573529208.html

Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
and
C&C 41
re-christening to follow


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>
> If you find a "fender kicker" who can't meet your ask then please send
> them my way, in Nanaimo.
>
> *Sweet *is a 35 mk-1 in very good condition and for sale, mid to low 20s
> outta do it.
>
> Cheers, Russ
>
>
>
> At 07:50 PM 4/25/2018, you wrote:
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> done. Cutter rigged, VW diesel, watermaker, hard dodger, solar panels,
> sailing dinghy,  much, much more. Asking mid 30's, serious offers will be
> considered.
>
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>
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Stus-List C&C 34 for sale

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hello all,

I'm putting my C&C 34 up for sale and moving up a class or two, details on
the new (to me) boat to follow once I've fully committed. In the meantime,
I'll be glad to talk or email more with an interested party.
She's a 1978, Ontario built boat in great condition.
White Awlgrip with navy blue boot and cove stripes.
Nicely equipped, very clean below-decks (cushions re-done a few years back)
and a very reliable Yanmar 2QM20.

Asking $22,000, looking for offers.

Thanks in advance, and looking forward to my next C&C!

*Chuck Borge*
*C&C 34 Elusive*
*Somerset, MA*
*508-642-3557*
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Re: Stus-List Mast Gooseneck Fitting

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Here is what you need... price may have gone up, or my memory is a bit off.
http://southshoreyachts.com/shop/cc-stainless-mast-bracket/

Chuck B
C&C 34  Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List Mast Gooseneck Fitting

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

I broke the the cast aluminum fitting on my mast at the gooseneck as well.
South Shore Yachts had a stainless replacement for about $275 USD (if I
recall correctly) and it shipped pretty quickly.
The way to go, for sure!

Chuck B
C&C 34  Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Call South Shore Yachts in Niagara-on-the-Lake before fabricating.  They
> may have one.
>
> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:29 PM
> *To:* CnClist 
> *Cc:* Dennis C. 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Mast Gooseneck Fitting
>
> You should be able to remove it yourself.  If it's on with machine screws,
> try one of these:
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_36882_36882
>
> It's what I use to remove things from masts.
>
> If it's riveted, drill out the rivet head then drive the rest into the
> mast with a punch.
>
> Once you've gotten the fitting off, take it to a local machine or welding
> shop.  They should be able to repair or copy it.
>
> Or, like one lister has already said, call Guido at Garhauer.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Al Serrato via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> The metal gooseneck fitting on the mast of my '34 failed. It attaches to
>> the mast via 4 screws on each side. One of the two metal loops that accepts
>> the boom end broke off. I have only gotten one estimate so far based on the
>> photo I sent to my usual boatyard, of $1100, to remove, fabricate and
>> replace. I'm waiting to hear back from some rig shops. I haven't tried to
>> remove the piece myself but am guessing I won't be able to with hand tools,
>> and I'm worried about stripping the screw heads.
>>
>> Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to repair/replace without
>> spending so much? Is there a market out there for used pieces like this?
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Al Serrato
>> Senza Fine
>> 1981 '34
>> San Francisco Bay
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Stus-List Original Rig, (was US Watercraft receivership)

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Years of racing J24s, J30s & Etchells, never thought I'd have a furler.  Now a 
little older, wiser and sporting a Stackpack too. 

Not the fastest setup, but still finding a way to win club races. 
And my wife and I can be off the mooring and sailing in minutes. Put-away is 
just as quick. I am sure we use our boat many times more than those around us 
just because it is so easy. No sail- folding arguments either!

Enjoy!

Chuck B
C&C 34 
Elusive 


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> On Jul 25, 2017, at 6:17 PM, robert via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Bill
> You will never regret putting a furler on your boat.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax,N.S.
> 
>> On 2017-07-25 6:00 PM, Bill Dakin via CnC-List wrote:
>> Tapestry is all original from '81, no 'conveniences' of furler, self 
>> tailers, clutches, or any modern rigging.  It's kind of interesting being 
>> the throwback to older times among all the jazz on my dock.  Alas, I asked 
>> our rigger to quote a Schaefer furler last week.
>> Bill Dakin
>> S/V Tapestry,
>> '81 25 MKII
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Newport Nautical Supply, a consignment shop in Newport RI had one this
winter for $250
I picked one up last year there for just under that.

Nice to have for peace-of-mind.

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA




*Chuck Borge*

*508-642-3557*

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> There are no deals on those.  Looked on kijiji, ebay and elsewhere.  Very
> expensive
>
>
>
> Three of us split the cost of one.  Tartan Thomas 35, C&C 33-2, Frers 33
>
>
>
> Really hard to justify the cost
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Reinardy via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 18, 2017 11:56 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* firewa...@reinardy.us
> *Subject:* Stus-List Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge
>
>
>
> Curious about those who have an RT-10 gauge, did you find a deal?  I see
> prices on those at about $500, which I am having trouble justifying.
>
>
>
> Jim Reinardy
>
> C&C 30-2 "Firewater"
>
> Milwaukee, WI
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List C&C 34 Parts For Sale

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Chris,
Did you have a hydraulic backstay adjuster? Mine let go at the end of the 
season. Repair guy said it was toast. 
Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34
Elusive 

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> On Feb 24, 2017, at 4:32 PM, Chris Duer via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All -
> 
> Well, it took until last week for our insurance to finally take our beloved 
> C&C 34 for salvage after Hurricane Matthew in October!
> 
> We had a few parts still kicking around that were getting cleaned up.  If 
> anyone is looking for:
> 
> 4 step transom ladder ($100 plus shipping)
> Cockpit pedestal mount table with mounting brackets ($70 plus shipping)
> Old breaker style C&C etched DC panel (free, you pay shipping)
> 
> Pictures at the following link.
> 
> https://goo.gl/photos/dyjd23PahTr48EgdA
> 
> I'm sure there will be more as I go through the boxes, but this is a start.
> 
> We had a great time with her for 10 years, it's a sad time to see her go...
> 
> Chris Duer
> ex-C&C 34 #117
> Morning View
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Re: Stus-List C&C 40 1983 rudder bearing

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hey Peter!

Good to see you on 'the list'!
You'll get a lot of help here.

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

On 11/17/2016 8:31 AM, PETE via CnC-List wrote:
>
> C&C 40  1983  rudder bearing
>
> I am new to the list and have just purchased my first  big boat and was
> told I needed a rudder bearing.  Any advised would be appreciated
> especially pictures if you have them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
>
> "Goonie Island"
> Portland Maine
>
>
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[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Going out for a sail this morning, then thinking of taking some out-of-town 
guests to Newport this afternoon. Is it worth a detour through NEB on the way?

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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> On Oct 21, 2016, at 9:17 AM, Harry Hallgring via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a C&C 40 here at NEB with a missing window...quite likely the one 
> listed if anyone wants more info or pictures.
> Harry Hallgring
> hhallgr...@icloud.com
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2016, at 08:55 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>> I have no affiliation with the seller nor do I know anything about this 
>> boat, but I stumbled across this Craigslist listing this morning:
>> 
>> http://southcoast.craigslist.org/boa/5838062124.html
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Even basket case 40’ C&Cs don’t generally sell this cheap.
>> 
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> 
>> S/V Half Magic 1983 Landfall 35
>> 
>> Padanaram, MA
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Anyone heading out?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Had a great sail in Mt Hope Bay today. Not many left, I imagine. 

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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Re: Stus-List 37+ in Etobicoke Ontario

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

I'm in Toronto for the World Cup. 
What's the plan?

Chuck B
C&C34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 7:23 PM, Harry Hallgring Jr via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Already ahead of you Dave... In New Hampshire!!
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Re: Stus-List Bulkheads separated from cabin top (C&C 34)

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Andrew,

I have a similar looking issue on my 1978 C&C 34, Also have very slight
dimples in the hull at the same places.  I've never sensed movement, and
thought not as much as yours, I can see that my bulkheads are not set in as
deep as they may have been at the build.
Aft sides of the bulkheads are tabbed in and I see not signs of movement
there.
Heavy back-stay, and the odd big wave also make the boat creak and/or
groan, but so far I have not felt there was a danger.  My Chain-plates are
dry and solid.  There are a coule of spots on the deck that need attention,
but neither are much bigger than a dinner plate.
Interested to see comments from others as well.  My survey a few years ago
found nothing to fear in the hull or deck.

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive,
Somerset, MA

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey all -
>
> Last week while S.V. Safari was bashing upwind offshore en route to Tofino
> BC I noticed that the forward bulkheads were creaking. Upon closer
> inspection I realized that they had separated entirely from the cabin top
> by moving inboard about 1.5cm.
>
> Here’s the port bulkhead: http://imgur.com/Meqa58I
> And here’s the starboard: http://imgur.com/MIZHoiG
>
> The ends of both bulkheads are prevented from moving farther inward by the
> termination of the slots in the fiberglass ceiling that they’re nested in.
> You can see in the photos that they were at one point glued in.
>
> The bottoms of the bulkheads seem to be very well fiberglassed in to the
> hull, and there’s no sign of breakage along the lower parts. The bulkheads
> that form the forward walls of the hanging locker and bathroom are also
> separated too, by what looks like the same amount.
>
> Looking at previous photos it looks like they’ve been like this since
> before we bought the boat. They’re not loose at all, they seem very well
> set in place.
>
> Questions:
> 1. Is this a common problem?
> 2. How in the world would we fix this?
> 3. How critical is it to fix this immediately? Were we courting disaster
> to push the boat hard offshore?
>
>
> --
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 Mk I
> Seattle, WA
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Re: Stus-List Friday Night Rescue

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Well Done, Randy!

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 4:34 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
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> Way to go, Randy!
>
> Everyone who sails in cold water should know the 1-10-1 rule:  When you
> first enter the water, you have one minute to catch your breath, before you
> might pass out.  The shock of entering cold water can take your breath
> away, and leave you gasping for air.  You have about ten minutes before
> your muscles can no longer help you get back onto your boat.  You have
> about an hour before you might die from hypothermia.
>
> Also, keep in mind that when you use a Life Sling, when you pass by the
> person in  the water, you have to be close to him/her for the sling to be
> within reach.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 1:17 PM, RANDY via CnC-List  > wrote:
>
>> Just a little story to share with you all.
>>
>> Went out for a leisure sail Friday evening with my daughter her friend,
>> in Beaufort 4 or 5 conditions.  We sailed under main only, and there was a
>> 15" whitecap chop on the water.  Hardly any boats on the lake, but one
>> windsurfer really hauling ass.
>>
>> Out in the middle of the lake, we heard some yelling, and looked around
>> to see three PFD-less people standing on a small low fiberglass fishing
>> boat that was going down by the stern.  I barely had time to say "shit,
>> they're sinking."  Next time I looked, the boat was gone, and the people
>> were in the water amongst various debris.  There were no other boats in the
>> vicinity and I realized we were going to have to rescue them as quickly as
>> we could.
>>
>> Started my Atomic-4 without running the blower first, luffed my main,
>> drove to them, and threw out my life sling.  Had to circle them three or
>> four times dragging the life sling line by them, before we could get them
>> all pulled in and aboard via the swim ladder.  I missed on the first try or
>> two just due to the wind and water conditions and my main flogging.  One of
>> them was about 30 yards from the other two, who told me to get the lone guy
>> first.  By the time we got the other two aboard, they'd been in the
>> 68-degree water probably ten minutes.
>>
>> Dropped the main, drove to the marina, docked at the launch ramp, and
>> called 911 for the first guy at the request of the second one.  I think he
>> was very intoxicated or high on something.  He was incoherent and unable to
>> move his body well, and it wasn't from exhaustion.  Plus his friends told
>> me to get him first, so they must have known something.
>>
>> Anyway, couple lessons learned.  First, my life sling line was not
>> already tied off with the life sling in the bag.  It should have been.  Had
>> to tell my daughter's friend to tie it off before throwing it out.  Second,
>> in all the chaos we forgot to give them blankets when we got them aboard.
>> One went below and my daughter gave them all towels, but they were all at
>> least very cold if not in the beginning stages of hypothermia.  Third,
>> don't expect the Chatfield State Park rangers to respond to a mayday hail
>> on VHF 16 - I hailed as soon as I grasped what was happening, to no avail.
>>
>> It was lucky that I was in the right place at the right time.  There were
>> no other boats around.  These three were too far in the middle of the lake
>> to swim to shore and I don't know if they could have given the conditions
>> (including theirs).  And I'm glad we were able to get a line to them before
>> having to witness any of them drowning.  Couldn't have done without my
>> daughter and her friend (both 22-ish) - that would have been too much for
>> me to manage alone.
>>
>> After we unloaded them, filed our statements, put the boat away, and
>> drove home, we toasted the good things in life with many dark & stormies
>> and whitecaps.  I'd never seen anything like that before, and I hope I
>> don't have to again.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C&C 30-1 #7
>> Ken Caryl, CO
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Re: Stus-List Wheel Turns

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

I was starting to worry that my steering was all wrong, but Andy, you put
me at ease as mine is just about 1 turn, lock-to-lock.
Diggin' your analogy as well...

Chuck B
C&C 34
Elusive
Somerset, MA

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
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> I think Peregrine is 1 or 1 1/2 turns. The way our boats were designed,
> they don't need a ton of the mechanical advantage that increases the number
> of turns lock to lock to steer them--they are sweetly well-balanced and
> always fun to steer.
> On some boats, steering is like having an argument you're determined to
> win, but it takes a lot out of you. With our boats, steering is more like
> having a conversation with a beautiful woman before you make love.
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
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Re: Stus-List relocating MAIN-SHEET

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi David, 

I have the same set up on my 34.  At first I hated not having all the controls 
at the helm but I must say I've come to appreciate the cockpit space. 
Plus, to windward, I tend to play the traveller more than the sheet, and with a 
Harken traveller with cam cleats on the ends, leaving enough length on the 
control lines gives me reach from the helm. 
Lastly, the best thing I did for the Admiral was upgrade the mainsheet 10ST 
winch to a Harken 40ST. Now she can sheet in easier in a breeze, or I can pop 
up there for a quick adjust myself. 
In cruise mode I set the mainsheet, lock the trav in the middle and tack single 
handedly. Wifey never spills a drop. 

Chuck B
C&C34
Somerset, MA

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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Pamela & David via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have a C&C-34 with the mainsheet traveler on the cabin roof. Really need to 
> move it infront of the steering wheel as my wife prefers to read during 
> tacks.  Does anyone have pictures in where/how to reposition the traveler 
> system.  Any help is appreciated.
> 
> David
> Mudpuddle out of QCYC
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Re: Stus-List Irgarol - reply from Interlux

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Listers,

For the last few years I've used the West Marine PCA Gold.  The results
have been decent for my location in Swansea, MA at the top or Mount Hope
Bay.
Last season the paint went on a little tougher than usual, and the weird
thing was it seemed like a Flat finish, whereas the prior years were
shinier (as far as bottom paint goes).  And out of the water it is a lot
chalkier than last few years.  One more thing, it had a kinda purple tint
after cleaning some days.

Other factors:
Same paint for last 3 years.
Not much build up as I put one coat overall and 2 at waterline and leading
edges of foils  At haulout, I have some bare spots (but nothing to worry
about)
I clean the bottom often, at least 2x/month and toward August and Sept-
every week.
Launch is first week of May, haul is last week of October.

Any thoughts?
West Marine's product advisers didn't have much to say other than meeting
EPA guidelines means they've had to change to formulas and that 60* at
application is on the low side.  April in my neighborhood is hard to find
many days much warmer than that.

Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List Wishing Every C&C-er a Happy Thanksgiving

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Well stated, Edd. 
Best to all,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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> On Nov 25, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here here!
> 
> Nice job edd!
> 
> Happy thanks giving everyone!   And thanks for all the great advice!
> 
> Danny
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>  Original message 
> From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
> Date: 11/25/2015 4:20 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: C&C List 
> Cc: Edd Schillay 
> Subject: Stus-List Wishing Every C&C-er a Happy Thanksgiving
> 
> Listers,
> 
> Just wanted to take a moment to wish you and your families a happy 
> Thanksgiving (belated for those of you in Canada.) Just remember -- as you 
> reconsider that extra helping of turkey, stuffing and potatoes -- all those 
> times you wished you had some extra weight on the rail. 
> 
> Along with my thanks for my loving wife and family, I thank all of you for 
> your guidance and camaraderie in what has become the most valuable aspect of 
> owning a C&C. 
> 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List 1980 C&C 32 Innisfree - Wilmington, DE

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Looking for a 32?
There's one for sale in my marina. It hasn't seen much use the last few
seasons.
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/1983-C%26amp%3BC-YACHTS-32-102414043

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm a "K":
>
> ZCC32059M80K
>
>
> Hull #59, 1980.
>
> Looks like just six past the one Bill is asking about. Rob, I have wheel
> steering and an atomic 4.
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> As I recall from prior posts on the list, and from reading the
>> explanation of HINs on the USCG website, there are at least three different
>> schemes for hull ID numbers that have been used over the years. I believe
>> that the explanation that Chuck included below is for the current scheme.
>>
>>
>>
>> On my old 38II, the last four characters are 0176, meaning the hell was
>> laid down (certified?) in January 1976, making the boat a 1976 model. The
>> presumption was that boat model years were like car model years – starting
>> in September – so 0975 would be a 76 model and 0976 would be a 77.
>>
>>
>>
>> But the September model year start would not meet the needs of
>> manufacturers with longer build lead times, so a Model year format was
>> started. M81D would be model year 81, with build started in month D. I
>> would need to look it up again, but I think A was August, B September, etc.
>> under this format.
>>
>>
>>
>> Again, build schedules longer than 12 months would be a problem for the
>> system above. For example, Pacific Seacraft is about to launch the first 62
>> footer, which was first laid down in the spring of 2013, with a planned
>> launch date of June 2014. (Thumper commented that the customer doesn’t
>> understand the “semi” part of semi-custom.)  So the system was changed
>> again. I suspect the last 4 characters of the HIN for the new Seacraft 62
>> will be something like D315 or even D316.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a website with a pretty complete explanation:
>> http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Brass
>>
>> Washington, NC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *robert
>> via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2015 8:21 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* robert 
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 1980 C&C 32 Innisfree - Wilmington, DE
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck:
>>
>> Character 9 refers to the month..andcharacter 10 the year the
>> boat was certified.
>>
>> In both of our HIN's, character 9 is 'M'but I can't find any 'M'
>> in the "letters that correspond to the following months"
>>
>> So I ask again, what do the 'K' and 'D' stand for.it says below
>> "The eleventh and twelfth characters refer to the model year".
>>
>> Any other C&C 32 owners with the 12th character a 'K'?
>>
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C&C 32 - 84
>> Halifax, N.S.
>>
>> On 2015-11-01 8:13 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> I think the K means the hull was molded in November.
>>
>>
>>
>> Found the HIN explained on the web:
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: Image removed by sender. Picture]
>> 
>>
>> The first 3 characters are what are referred to as the MIC or
>> Manufacturers Index Code.  There are several sites on the internet that can
>> help you decode the MIC of your HIN.  One such site is through the US
>> Coast Guards website . Another
>> option that might be a bit easier to use is Boat History Report
>> which
>> hosts a free HIN validator to verify you have the correct HIN to begin
>> with.
>>
>>
>>
>> The following 5 digits vary according the manufacturer but are meant to
>> be used as a serial number for that boat.  It may contain specifics such as
>> the length or material of the boat or it may just be a sequential number.
>> Manufacturers are able to use any series of numbers and letters except O, I
>> and Q because they are easily mistaken.
>>
>>
>>
>> The last 4 characters of the HIN represent the certification year and
>> model of the watercraft.  Character 9 refers to the month and character 10-
>> the year, the boat was certified. Certification means when the boat was
>> stated to be in compliance with all laws and regulations regarding safe
>> boat building.  The letters correspond to the following months: A- January,
>> B- February, C- March, D- April, E- May, F- June, G- July, H- August, I-
>> September, J- October, K- November, L- December.  The year
>> is dictated using the last number of the year- for example, March of 1982
>> would be written as C2.  The eleventh and twelfth characters refer to the
>> model year.  In the example above, the boat was certified in March of 1993
>> with a model year of 1993.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck
>> *Resolute*

Re: Stus-List Boom Furling complications

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Danny,
Harry is good, still running the show. 
Shoot me a note if you don't come up with an option near you. I'm supposed to 
be winterizing the motor Saturday morning, put could re-arrange it if you need 
the help.
Email: chuckbo...@gmail.com
Best, 
Chuck

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 29, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chuck,
>  
> I was at Swansea Marina for about 3 years when I had a 22' boat.  I go back 
> there in heart beat if he'd store it but the biggest boat he'll take is 34'
>  
> How is Harry?
>  
> saturday would be good day to move the boat, I already removed the sails so, 
> its motoring the whole way.
>  
> I'd take you up on the offer for company on the delivery.  NEB would be about 
> 3-4 hours.  Borden light is really inexpensive but, they really do pack in 
> the boats and access can be really difficult over the winter.
>  
> I'm going to make some calls tomorrow.
>  
> I'm also considering Mattapoisett.  we really love buzzards Bay and want to 
> stay close for the summer.
>  
> I can do a nice sail to cutty hunk in a 2-3 hours...  We LOVE cuttyhnk!!
>  
> Danny
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
> To: CnClist 
> Cc: Chuck Borge 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Furling complications
> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:21:19 -0400
> 
> Danny,
>  
> Borden light treats some friends of mine pretty fairly.  Further up the River 
> is Bristol Marine's Somerset yard and even further up is Shaw's.  I've heard 
> good things about both with Shaw's the less expensive option.
> Swansea, where I am, would not be able to handle your boat for the size, I 
> think.  I draw 6' and am about the biggest sailboat there at 34'.
> Good luck, if you bring it around to Mt. Hope Bay, let us know.  I might be 
> up for a ride and am not far away.
>  
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> I dunno, Jonathan, When ever I'm up there drooling over the big boats, I 
>> notice a ton of much smaller boats around. 
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Indigo via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I have heard some not so positive things about NEB. They look after many 
>>> "major money" clients - and the feeling was that unless you are in that 
>>> league, you get short changed. 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jonathan
>>> Indigo C&C 35III
>>> SOUTHPORT CT
>>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 16:03, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hinckley is 433/ft for dry storage plus 11/ft for haul and wash. NEB is 
>>> about the same.
>>> I'm going to NEB rather than some of the other options around the bay 
>>> because they don't do anything in a slipshod manner. I know there are some 
>>> places that do.
>>> Caveat emptor! 
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> C&C 40
>>> Peregrine
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> So, I'm looking around, does anyone know anything about the Borden Light 
>>>> Marina.  They have some good reviews on Active captain an another couple 
>>>> of sites but, anyone could write those.
>>>>  
>>>> Their rates are really cheap at $18/ft for wet storage and $33/ft for on 
>>>> land storage.  Thats a 3-4 hour trip for me by boat but, closer to drive 
>>>> from the house.
>>>>  
>>>> Danny
>>>> Westport Point, MA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>>>> Cc: Joel Aronson 
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Furling complications
>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:27:59 -0400
>>>> 
>>>> Danny,
>>>>  
>>>> I assume you have projects to do over the winter.  Close to home helps get 
>>>> things done.
>>>> Wet store where you are and arrange for a haul-out and to have the bottom 
>>>> work to be done in the early spring.  You'll be blocking the lift, so they 
>>>> will have to turn it around quickly.
>>>>  
>>>> Joel
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
>>&

Re: Stus-List Boom Furling complications

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Danny,

Borden light treats some friends of mine pretty fairly.  Further up the
River is Bristol Marine's Somerset yard and even further up is Shaw's.
I've heard good things about both with Shaw's the less expensive option.
Swansea, where I am, would not be able to handle your boat for the size, I
think.  I draw 6' and am about the biggest sailboat there at 34'.
Good luck, if you bring it around to Mt. Hope Bay, let us know.  I might be
up for a ride and am not far away.

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I dunno, Jonathan, When ever I'm up there drooling over the big boats, I
> notice a ton of much smaller boats around.
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Indigo via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have heard some not so positive things about NEB. They look after many
>> "major money" clients - and the feeling was that unless you are in that
>> league, you get short changed.
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan
>> Indigo C&C 35III
>> SOUTHPORT CT
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 16:03, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hinckley is 433/ft for dry storage plus 11/ft for haul and wash. NEB is
>> about the same.
>> I'm going to NEB rather than some of the other options around the bay
>> because they don't do anything in a slipshod manner. I know there are some
>> places that do.
>> Caveat emptor!
>>
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, I'm looking around, does anyone know anything about the Borden Light
>>> Marina.  They have some good reviews on Active captain an another couple of
>>> sites but, anyone could write those.
>>>
>>> Their rates are really cheap at $18/ft for wet storage and $33/ft for on
>>> land storage.  Thats a 3-4 hour trip for me by boat but, closer to drive
>>> from the house.
>>>
>>> Danny
>>> Westport Point, MA
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
>>> Cc: Joel Aronson 
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom Furling complications
>>> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 15:27:59 -0400
>>>
>>> Danny,
>>>
>>> I assume you have projects to do over the winter.  Close to home helps
>>> get things done.
>>> Wet store where you are and arrange for a haul-out and to have the
>>> bottom work to be done in the early spring.  You'll be blocking the lift,
>>> so they will have to turn it around quickly.
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Danny,

 New England Boatworks in Portsmouth, RI allows storage with the mast up
 (and there's someone on the list that knows a lot about that location).
 That's pretty close to Westport Point.

 Tim

 On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> So, it seems the yard said they cannot remove the mast because of the
> sail track that rides up the mast track for the furling system.
>
> I basically have two options where they are concerned.  Find another
> yard for storage or, wet store the boat in a slip.
>
> I don't think I would mind the wet storage option if she wasn't in
> such a need for a bottom job.
>
> What do you guys think?
>
> The reason they cannot remove the mast is because they use a sling and
> the sling would damage the track...
>
> Maybe someone can recommend a place nearby where I can store her on
> the hard.  i know not every yard requires the removal of the mast.
>
> Danny
> Westport Point, MA
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> 301 541 8551
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>>
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>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> phone  +401 965 5260
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Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Where does the Northeast 39 fit into that chart?
I thought by the numbers it was pretty stiff, too. Just curious...

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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> On Sep 28, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Isn't it wonderful to have a great resource like cncphotoalbum.com?  The 
> diagram is under "Technical Info" then "Stability Diagram".  The direct link 
> is:
> 
>  .
> 
> To be picky, it looks like the LF 42 is stiffer.  Otherwise the 30 MK 1 gets 
> it.
> 
> Also, since the site is a user supported resource, support can be given at:  
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Agreed. Somewhere in the archives there is a Dallenbach chart which shows 
>> the relative 'stiffness' of most of the early C&C's. It would be pretty 
>> useful in this selection. And the 30-1 is by itself.
>>  
>> Gary
>> 30-1 #593
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
>> To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'
>> Cc: Della Barba, Joe
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>> 
>> The 30  MK I is supposedly the stiffest boat C&C made.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Coquina
>> 
>> C&C 35 MK I
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt 
>> Stratton via CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:50 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Burt Stratton
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I have a 74’ 33-foot three quarter tonner, which I believe is the same hull 
>> and sail plan as the MK-1. I do believe my keel is longer, though. She draws 
>> 6’6” and the MK-1 is listed at 5’6”.  Layout is different but I don’t think 
>> that would have much effect on performance. It is a superbly stiff and 
>> stable ride on Narragansett Bay, which is not a lot different from Buzzards 
>> Bay. She handles 20kts easily…gusts, too - even close hauled and points 
>> extremely well.  I would recommend that boat any day. Something like that 
>> would also probably fit in the budget. I would trade mine for an MK-1 just 
>> for the far more comfortable layout and headroom forward.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Burt
>> 
>> On the hard in Walpole, MA
>> 
>> Waiting for paint and other projects
>> 
>> Hoping for a spring launch
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:36 PM
>> To: CNC CNC
>> Cc: David
>> Subject: Stus-List Recommendations Please...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A good friend of mine would like to buy their first "big boat".  We sail out 
>> of Buzzards Bay which I affectionately call the "Washing Machine" resulting 
>> from the Bay's shallow water and strong afternoon S'Westerlies.   
>> 
>> Their budget is around 15K and because of the aforementioned washing 
>> machine, need a stiff boat around the 30-34' size.  In addition to size, if 
>> my memory is correct there are certain "Marques" within a specific size 
>> range (33?) which are stiffer than others and would be better suited to the 
>> area.  
>> 
>> So what size and what "Mark" version do you folks think would be appropriate?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> 1981 40-2
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> 
>> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:04:44 -0400
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re; Boat names
>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> CC: stevanpla...@gmail.com
>> 
>> There's a C&C 40 here on Lake Ontario named "Vatican II" that's been for 
>> sale for a while. It's a centerboard model and nicely outfitted for 
>> cruising. Any connection?
>> 
>> Has a big crucifix on both sides. Not really my cup of tea but unique anyway.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>> 
>> Toronto
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My dad met a fellow in Vancouver who sold him on the C&C 27...and the brand. 
>> The fellow's name was Mike Pope, so naturally enough, his boat was called 
>> Vatican.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> C&C 40
>> 
>> Peregrine
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Robert Gallagher via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My first boat, C&C 30MKI was named Trysail.  The previous owner sold Flying 
>> Scotts (I think) at one time so it was a play on words.  She still carries 
>> that name.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> My new boat, C&C 30 MKII, was named Lagniappe when I purchased her.  Talk 
>> about a mouth full and a triple repeat on the spelling when calling a 
>> bridge, marina, or vessel.  After the delivery trip North from Annapolis to 
>> Mystic I changed the name.  I got tired of repeating myself.  Didn't like 
>> the name myself, but anyone from New Orleans seemed to love it, reminded 
>> them of home.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So I renamed my current boat HANUMAN.  Seems simple eno

Re: Stus-List 37+ rod rigging size

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Josh,

Newport Nautical Supply has one on consignment for about $250 last time I was 
there (a couple of weeks ago).  They may ship, not sure. 

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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> On Aug 12, 2015, at 8:51 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ken Heaton comes through again!  He says, "look at the owners manual."  and 
> there it is #6 and #12 rod which equals 0.198 and 0.281.  Which means I would 
> be in the market for the smallest standard Loos RT-10 rod tension gauge.
> 
> Anybody know where to get one cheap or have one they are looking to part with?
> 
> Thanks, 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2015 7:22 PM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List"  
>> wrote:
>> Anybody know the rod size for the standing rigging of a 37+ with the tall 
>> rig?  I tried to measure it but evidently my vernier caliper usage skills 
>> are poor.  I'm looking to buy/borrow a Loos RT-10 but need the rod size to 
>> make sure i get the correct one.  Yes, on the side is a rod gauge but i 
>> don't want to get committed to a $500 tool just to find out its the wrong 
>> one and won't fit my rod.
>> 
>> My measurements for the 2 different rod sizes are 5.1mm and 7.25mm or 0.203 
>> inches and 0.279.  None of the measurements are appropriate which makes it 
>> impossible to tell if the rod is standard or metric.
>> 
>> Any sources for borrowing a tension gauge would also be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>> 
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Re: Stus-List The Starship Enterprise is Back!

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Great to hear!

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I’m happy to report that after the extensive repowering job replacing my
> dead Universal M-35 with a Beta Marine 30, the Starship Enterprise was
> launched this morning with the tide. We start racing again tonight.
>
> The order is given: Warp Speed!
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List 34 sails needed

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

That's cool J & M. Just trying  to help. Chuck

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> On Jul 24, 2015, at 7:18 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Chuck
>  
> Have contacted this seller and it is a cruising roller furler.  I am looking 
> for a racing sail but a big gold star for the effort
>  
> FWIW the 34 dimensions are very close to the 33 and 35 mk 1 so this might be 
> an opportunity for folks owning those models
>  
> John & Maryann
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Borge via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 9:42 AM
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> Cc: Chuck Borge
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 sails needed
>  
> John,
>  
> Did you find a headsail?
> There is one on CL for $200. Its a North 150%, blue sunshield for r/f.
> http://southcoast.craigslist.org/bpo/5120606839.html
>  
> I texted the seller, says it is not in bad shape... If I didn't just put a 
> new 135% on my boat, I'd probably take it myself.
>  
> Good luck,
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
>  
>  
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 2:14 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> Looking for replacements of our very tired sails
> 155% genoa, #6 luff tape for Harken forestay
> 0.5 to 0.75 oz symmetrical spinnaker for our 34.
> 
> 33 Mk1 will also fit
> 
> Anyone have these hanging around??
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
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Re: Stus-List 34 sails needed

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

John,

Did you find a headsail?
There is one on CL for $200. Its a North 150%, blue sunshield for r/f.
http://southcoast.craigslist.org/bpo/5120606839.html

I texted the seller, says it is not in bad shape... If I didn't just put a
new 135% on my boat, I'd probably take it myself.

Good luck,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


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> Looking for replacements of our very tired sails
> 155% genoa, #6 luff tape for Harken forestay
> 0.5 to 0.75 oz symmetrical spinnaker for our 34.
>
> 33 Mk1 will also fit
>
> Anyone have these hanging around??
>
> Many thanks
>
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
>
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Re: Stus-List Best Engine?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Brian,

After seeing Legacy's speed with a 3GM, I feel less bad about our speed.
I've got a 1978 34 with a 2QM20 and get right around 5.5  with a Mar-Tec
folding prop, too.
I though she was under-powered, but I guess not.  I try not to run
wide-open, so I can only guess we'd get to 6kts.
Good news she sips diesel fuel.

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA



On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 7:18 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
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> HI Brian
>
> Our 34 has the Yanmar 3GM with Martec folding prop.  Clean bottom cruising
> is 5.5, max is about 6.  As I recall, your max speed is supposed to be
> about
> 80% of theoretical hull speed with throttle wide open??  Another variable
> is
> the calibration of the knotometer and if using the GPS the impact of
> current
>
>
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Morrison via CnC-List" 
> To: 
> Cc: "Brian Morrison" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 00:47
> Subject: Stus-List Best Engine?
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I often sail with a group of sailors that have more modern and somewhat
> > larger boats than my 1979 C&C34. When there is no wind and we are forced
> > to motor I have difficulty keeping up. With a clean bottom my cruising
> > speed is about 5-5.5 knots. I have an Atomic 4 engine. I'm wondering
> would
>
> > a Yanmar or a Westerbeke give me 7+ knots?
> >
> > Brian C. Morrison
> > S/V
> > Rekofa
> > 1979
> > C&C34
> > Chesapeake Bay
> >
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Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ Repower -- Ugh

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Edd,

Been following your predicament and saw this on my local Craigslist.
I have no idea on how or if it would fit, but is seems like a hell of a
deal.
http://capecod.craigslist.org/bpo/5095335244.html

Good luck with getting back on the water soon!

Chuck B
C&C34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
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> John,
>
> Wow — Did not consider that at all. I’ve started a claim with Travelers
> and they will send somebody down next week. Not sure it’ll be covered, but,
> if it is, will be a great savings.
>
> Thanks! Hope to see you in September (9/11-9/13) at the Rendezvous.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 7:29 AM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> HI Edd
>
> Our prior boat was a Galaxy 32 with a Mitsubishi 3 cylinder that blew a
> hole in a piston which was traced to an improperly installed exhaust that
> allowed water back to the cylinders.  This was about 20 years ago.  We went
> to a Beta (30??) and were very pleased with the result – brand new
> everything, easily installed after some minor tweaks to the engine beds,
> started and ran like a dream, easily maintained.  We sold her 16 years ago
> and a definite plus to the sale was the “new” engine.  The boat is still in
> the area and as far as I know that Beta just keeps chugging along.  On
> another note, our insurance paid for the engine and install but not for
> redoing the exhaust.  They would not pay for the cause of the problem but
> would pay for resulting damage.  I want to say we had Boat US at the
> time.  Might want to make inquiry with your agent.
>
> Best of luck
>
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
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Re: Stus-List Help? on the scrounge!!

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Hi Jonathon,

I have an old 135% for my C&C 34 that has not seen daylight in a few years
at least.  It would be a short hoist for your boat, I think your I/J=
46.3'/13.6 and the 34 is 44'/14'.
If none of the 35 guys can help, and you are in a pinch, let me know.
I'm just about 20 minutes east of Providence.

Good luck!
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Indigo via CnC-List 
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> I have just discovered that my roller-fuller jib is delaminated beyond
> repair and is separating from the luff tape - also beyond economical repair.
>
> My boat budget is extremely tight this year - so I wondered if anyone
> might have a jib in the 135 - 150 range that would fit my 35Mk III and
> which is sitting gathering dust.  If in the north east I could possibly
> pick it up or otherwise pay shipping etc. I do race - sort of - generally
> with a pick up crew - so sail shape  is definitely not critical!!
>
> --
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> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
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Re: Stus-List C&C30-1 climb to top of mast?

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Jay, 
I'm around 225 and just did it on my C&C34. And years ago was the go-to guy on 
a J30.  Scary that on that crew, I was both youngest and lightest... Yikes. 
Not a bad ride, just have a good chair, and good guys in the winch. 
Good luck, 
Chuck B
C&C34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


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> On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Kirkpatrick, Jay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> ‎I'd like to replace my windex with a new one, but don't want to drop the 
> mast to do it.
> On larger boats we send someone up the mast to retrieve halyards etc, but has 
> anyone done this on a 30-1?
> I wonder if 200lbs at the top to install a new windex is too much of a risk 
> of damage or injury. Has anyone lived to tell the story?
> Cheers,
> Jay
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Re: Stus-List Hardware etc. Resource

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Richard,

Have you tried South Shore Yachts in Ontario?
southshoreyachts.com
They have a huge stockpile of C&C stuff, are helpful and ship fast.

I got the gasket materials to rebuild my extruded aluminum portlights from
them.  Couldn't find that stuff anywhere.

Rudy is great, too.  He is about 15 minutes from me, and I've sourced old
O'Day DaySailor parts from him in the past.  His barn is like a gold mine
of older parts and equipment.

Good luck,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List <
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> Dave, per your contact, Rudy,  at D&R Marine, do you happen to know if he
> has C&C specific parts? Thanks
>
>  Richard
> 1985 C&C 27 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584.4
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David via CnC-List 
> To: CNC CNC 
> Cc: David 
> Sent: Thu, Jun 4, 2015 7:20 am
> Subject: Stus-List Hardware etc. Resource
>
>   Was referred to a man named Rudy who owns D & R marine (Assonet, MA)
> when I needed to replace my lifelines.   Rudy did great work at great
> prices.
>
> (508) 644 3001
>
> His large barn next to his house is full of new hardware he purchased from
> closed boat manufacturers (Pearson, ODay, Alden etc) and old stock from
> parts manufacturers (Edson etc.).
>
> His prices and service are great and he ships.   Might be worth an e-mail
> to Rudy if you have needs.
>
> (I have no interest in D & R)
>
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Re: Stus-List Starting problems

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Congrats on the easy fix!

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Derek Kennedy via CnC-List <
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> Thanks to everyone who offered advice and expertise re my starting
> problem.
>
> It turned out to be a loose ground wire at the engine.
>
> I needn't have installed a new ignition switch, but now I have a spare.
> And I've learned a couple of valuable lessons. Lesson number one is: Ask
> first.
>
> Temperature for tomorrow is predicted to be mid-20s here. That's about 300
> Kelvin, I think. A good day to slalom among the lobster buoys in St
> George's Bay.
>
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> Tortuga, C&C30 mk1
> Ballantyne's Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Starting problems

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Derek,

I had a similar problem starting this season, found it was a loose ground
wire on the alternator bracket.  I had taken the alternator off when I was
changing the pencil zincs in my 2qm20.
There are some really smart guys on the list, with lots of good
information.  I was lucky I didn't have to chase my problem too deep.

Chuck
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA



On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
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> Derek,
>
> Sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem. Grab your voltmeter
> and check each connection.
>
> Could also be your starter solenoid.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
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> On May 22, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Tortuga via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I’m having ignition problems with the 2QM15 engine in my C&C 30 mk1.
> Normally, when the main switch is turned to on, the oil pressure alarm
> sounds. Pressing the starter button starts the engine and the alarm stops.
>
>
> This season, after a few successful starts, when I turned the main switch
> on one day there was no alarm and nothing happened when I pressed the
> starter. No cranking. Not a sound. My batteries spent the winter in my
> basement and were fully charged. As well, shore power was plugged in and
> the charger showed full charge on both batteries.
>
>
> This happened once or twice last season but when I repeated the process
> the engine started.
>
>
> I assumed that the main switch was worn out and ordered a replacement
> Yanmar switch from Rosborough Boats. It was my first dealing with them and
> I was very impressed. Rob Manual had a new switch to me within a day.
>
>
> I had carefully labelled and photographed the connections at the old
> switch before removing it, but when I installed the new one it didn’t solve
> my problem. When I keyed the switch on, I got a very weak sounding alarm
> and pressing the starter button got no reaction.
>
>
> I’m unskilled at tracing problems, so thought I’d ask for help. Thanks in
> advance
>
>
> Derek Kennedy
>
> Tortuga
>
> C&C 30 mk1
>
> Ballantyne’s Cove, NS
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Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hi Guys,

Saw this on the Providence (RI) craiglist:
http://providence.craigslist.org/bpo/5027782716.html
Might be worth a look.  I though of snagging it as a long-term project, but
I'm sure the Admiral would have me flogged (again).

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:30 PM, David via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Rick,
>
> For this pump I checked a full re-build kit...$350 and still needs to be
> rebuilt.   New?  Got one for $300 online instead of $400 locally
> Your pump experiences may vary...
>
>
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 10:21:00 -0700
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: rickroh...@gmail.com
>
>
> Where do you look for the parts?  any kits available?  Thanks
>
> Rick
> C&C 37+ Paikea
> Poulsbo, WA
>
> On May 19, 2015, at 3:28 AM, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> The seals and bearings on the raw water pump are replaceable.  It is
> certainly cheaper than a new pump.
>
> Jake
>
> *Jake Brodersen*
> *“Midnight Mistress”*
> *C&C 35 Mk-III*
> *Hampton VA*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *David via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2015 9:04 PM
> *To:* CNC CNC
> *Cc:* David
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...
>
>
> Rick,
>
> Thank you.   Correct on all counts except the missing vane is from the
> impeller which internally circulates the glycol.
>
> I need to do a bit of digging around the Sen-Dur exchanger and its
> design.   Flat out at work all week and will be back out it this weekend.
>
> FYI...The raw water pump needs to be replaced too.   Leaking shaft.  $400
> for a pump.  Whodathunk?
>
> Damn.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Mirage in Newport

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Beautiful boat!
The Northeast 39 is on my wish list...

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA

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> I saw Harry's Mirage in Newport during the VOR weekend. Nicest boat on the
> water. Will post pictures somewhere and email the link to the list.
>
> Pierre Tremblay
> Avalanche #54988
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Re: Stus-List C&C 34 rig tune

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Hi Dwight,

We did some damage over the years.  On the J24, I was a fanatic, kept a
log... tuned every week/regatta for conditions, all that stuff.  Same on
the J30, but with this boat, I'm looking at some pieces I'm not used to and
figuring it out as I go. Having a baseline is what I was looking for.  So I
borrowed a couple big bodies and went up the rig to check thing s out for
myself.
Seems like 1000/1000 on the D1/V1 was a decent start.  The D2 is just
barely registering on the gauge, and the V2 is loaded by the V1, with no
adjustment available.
I went sailing yesterday and today (though it was blowing hard today) and
made some adjustments - 1300/1200 and it felt pretty good.  Lee shrouds
soft, but not slack until it really kicked up.
Still experimenting, and expecting a new 135% in a few weeks, so I'll be
starting all over again, I suppose.

Thanks for the input from the listers.  Every bit helps.  After retiring
from racing for a decade +, I'm thinking I'm ready to go back at it, but at
a different pace than before... guess that comes with age.

Best to all,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA



On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 7:12 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List <
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> if you raced J 24 and J 30m and did well you probably know more than most
> of us about rig tuning
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
>
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Russ.
>> Now if I can get some decent numbers, I'll be golden.
>> When I was racing J-24's and J-30's, I never left the dock without making
>> some adjustments.
>> Now that the Admiral and I are mostly cruising, I am having trouble
>> letting that go...
>>
>> Best,
>> Chuck
>> C&C 34 Elusive
>> Somerset, MA
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Chuck,
>>>
>>> try this worksheet for designations:
>>>  http://www.colligomarine.com/docs/guidelines/colligorigdescriptor1_2.pdf
>>>
>>> Cheers, Russ
>>> *Sweet *35 mk-1
>>> Nanaimo, but on the way to Thetis Island soon.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 06:58 AM 08/05/2015, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello list gurus,
>>>
>>> Armed with my newly acquired Loos RT-10 and a decent bosun's chair, I
>>> plan to enlist a few strong friends to hoist me up the mast this weekend
>>> and tune the rig.
>>> Anyone have decent numbers for the C&C 34 shrouds?
>>> And what are we calling the above the spreader pair (upper &
>>> intermediate), lower section of the upper and then lower?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>>>
>>> Chuck B
>>> C&C 34 Elusive
>>> Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List C&C 34 rig tune

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Thanks, Rob. 
I was up there this morning and found the D2s to be even, registering 2-3 on 
the gauge. That sound about where you said. 
The uppers (V2) were a bit higher on one side than the other, but that tension 
is controlled at deck level. And at deck level both sides are even. It may have 
been my weight causing the issue, and 2 big guys heeling the boat a touch. 
I'm going to start at 1300 on the outside (uppers) and the same on the lowers 
and sail around to get it right. 
It always seemed the leeward shrouds were looser on starboard tack. Not sure 
why. 

Thanks for the help!
Chuck


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> On May 9, 2015, at 8:51 AM, robert via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Chuck:
> 
> I can not provide you with specific tension numbers for your 34 rig but here 
> is something to consider.I assume your standing rigging is Navtec rod #8 
> (I am guessing) which has a breaking strength of 2,000 lbs.  Navtec 
> recommends never applying more tension than 25% of the breaking strength, or 
> 2,000 lbs in this case.
> 
> The 32 has one set of 'intermediates'.they should never be tensioned more 
> than your shroud(s).I can't tell you exactly what the tension is on mine 
> as I had a rigger adjust my 'intermediates'.he tensioned them hand tight 
> and then 2 full turns.   He did that as he knew I had 1,300 lbs. on the cap 
> (upper) shrouds.  I am purely guessing that there is approx. 500 lbs. on my 
> intermediates.
> 
> I use a Loos RT-10 tension gauge as wellfind it very helpful as I can't 
> tell how much tension is on the rig by simply pulling on it.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C&C 32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> .
>> On 2015-05-08 10:58 AM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List wrote:
>> Hello list gurus,
>> 
>> Armed with my newly acquired Loos RT-10 and a decent bosun's chair, I plan 
>> to enlist a few strong friends to hoist me up the mast this weekend and tune 
>> the rig.
>> Anyone have decent numbers for the C&C 34 shrouds?
>> And what are we calling the above the spreader pair (upper & intermediate), 
>> lower section of the upper and then lower?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>> 
>> Chuck B
>> C&C 34 Elusive
>> Somerset, MA
>> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 34 rig tune

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Hi John, 
It does help for the process. Since my boat is in the water Already, with the 
stick up, do you set the upper pair (v2 & d2?) at a specific tension? While 
Sailing I won't be able to adjust above the spreaders so a pre-set number would 
be great. 

And at no time should I let the lowers get  "floppy" once I've settled in, 
right?

Thanks for the help!
Chuck

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> On May 8, 2015, at 7:23 PM, John and Maryann Read via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chuck
>  
> After 16 years have pretty much figured out how to tune the rig.  The boat is 
> very sensitive a bunch of factors but once dialed in does very well.  Will be 
> launching in 2 weeks and can provide some measurements, but a couple of 
> basics apply
>  
> 1)  Boat at rest, no tension on mast, all rigging attached but loose, 
> boom off, calm day, calm sea preferably at a dock.  I find it helps to 
> lightly apply waterproof grease to the turnbuckle threads.
> 2)  Set upper shrouds so are somewhat loose – these will tighten as the 
> outer shrouds are tightened.
> 3)  Set mast foot and where comes through deck so have slight rake aft in 
> mast – foot is slightly forward of midships of shoe, slightly aft at partners
> 4)  Using main halyard, ensure mast is centered port and stbd.  Cleat 
> halyard so just touches caprail with equal pressure on both sides. Tighten 
> shrouds with vigor while maintaining mast in vertical mode in relation to 
> boat.  Double check you are still in vertical mode with mast top centered
> 5)  Ensure upper shrouds have minimal tension
> 6)  Tighten lower shrouds for moderate tension
> 7)  Moderate tension on back stay
> 8)  Rig boom and sails
> 9)  Ensure baby stay and back stay are properly tensioned
> 10)   Go sailing.  On each upwind tack lie on your back with your eyes 
> looking up the mainsail mast track.  Adjust the outer shrouds so the leeward 
> one is moderate tension – not flopping about.  Tack and adjust the new 
> leeward the same turns.  Keep track of your number of turns on the 
> turnbuckles so you keep equal tension on both sides to keep mast top centered.
> 11)   Adjust your leeward upper / lower shrouds to keep mast in straight 
> column.
> 12)   Of course pin / tape all your turnbuckles
>  
> Hope this helps
>  
> John and Maryann
> Legacy III
> 1982 C&C 34
> Noank, CT
>  
> From: CnC-List [r :cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Borge 
> via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 9:58 AM
> To: CnClist
> Cc: Chuck Borge
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 34 rig tune
>  
> Hello list gurus,
>  
> Armed with my newly acquired Loos RT-10 and a decent bosun's chair, I plan to 
> enlist a few strong friends to hoist me up the mast this weekend and tune the 
> rig.
> Anyone have decent numbers for the C&C 34 shrouds?
> And what are we calling the above the spreader pair (upper & intermediate), 
> lower section of the upper and then lower?
>  
> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>  
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
> 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 34 rig tune

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Thanks Russ.
Now if I can get some decent numbers, I'll be golden.
When I was racing J-24's and J-30's, I never left the dock without making
some adjustments.
Now that the Admiral and I are mostly cruising, I am having trouble letting
that go...

Best,
Chuck
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
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>  Hi Chuck,
>
> try this worksheet for designations:
>  http://www.colligomarine.com/docs/guidelines/colligorigdescriptor1_2.pdf
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
> Nanaimo, but on the way to Thetis Island soon.
>
>
> At 06:58 AM 08/05/2015, you wrote:
>
> Hello list gurus,
>
> Armed with my newly acquired Loos RT-10 and a decent bosun's chair, I plan
> to enlist a few strong friends to hoist me up the mast this weekend and
> tune the rig.
> Anyone have decent numbers for the C&C 34 shrouds?
> And what are we calling the above the spreader pair (upper &
> intermediate), lower section of the upper and then lower?
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>
> Chuck B
> C&C 34 Elusive
> Somerset, MA
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Stus-List C&C 34 rig tune

[Chuck Borge via CnC-List]

Hello list gurus,

Armed with my newly acquired Loos RT-10 and a decent bosun's chair, I plan
to enlist a few strong friends to hoist me up the mast this weekend and
tune the rig.
Anyone have decent numbers for the C&C 34 shrouds?
And what are we calling the above the spreader pair (upper & intermediate),
lower section of the upper and then lower?

Thanks in advance for any advice,

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List KVH Quadro

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I'll be in the same position once I (eventually) pull the trigger on some
new goodies, too.

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA


On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:26 PM, William Walker via CnC-List <
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> I have been looking for years and just made down payment on new Garmin
> system.  I will be selling used but working parts in Late May or June.
> Bill Walker
> CnC 36
> Pentwater, Mi
>
>
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
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> On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 Eric Baumes via CnC-List <
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>  Fellow KVH hangers on,
>
>  A bunch of display items were put on ebay today.
>
>  Worst ads ever, but they are there.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=kvh&_sop=10&_sacat=0&_nkw=kvh+quadro&_from=R40&_trksid=m194&_osacat=0
>
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>
>  Still running KVH quadro.
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

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Hi Eric, 

No worries on the stalking parts, I'm kinda doing the same. 
But I think I really want to change some stuff. 
I have 2 displays and the keypad plus the brain.  I'll let you know if I pull 
the trigger on a new system. 

Best, 
Chuck

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> On Mar 26, 2015, at 4:04 PM, Eric Baumes  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> I feel a little like a vulture.
> 
> I am still trying to keep my KVH system alive, so if you are replacing stuff, 
> let me know. I am particularly interested in buying any working dual displays.
> 
> Eric
> 34/36 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Fred,
>> 
>> Thanks for both the input and the offer.  I get what you are saying, 
>> regarding function.  And I'll give that some thought.
>> I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look.  
>> Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays 
>> are ok.  And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against 
>> it, like she always does now.
>> I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to 
>> splash.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chuck B
>> C&C 34 Elusive
>> Somerset, MA
>> 
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

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Hi Fred,

Thanks for both the input and the offer.  I get what you are saying,
regarding function.  And I'll give that some thought.
I like the analog look for wind, just a sucker for a more classic look.
Plus I've got space to fill if I take out the old stuff, so extra displays
are ok.  And my lovely bride wouldn't change the info by leaning up against
it, like she always does now.
I guess I've got some figuring to do... Almost April, then one month to
splash.

Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

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They've been stuck for 2 season.  It didn't bother me so much at first, we
never had much electronics on the J24, J30 and Etchells I was racing in the
past.  But I decided this is the year to get it right.  I'll be able to
find help, but wanted to minimize the number of times I have to ask friends
to lug my butt up there.
Plus, I can't help lust after some new stuff.


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On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Dennis C.  wrote:

> Might be worth a quick trip up the mast.  Can you find someone else to
> help?  Might be as simple as a spider building a web/nest in the cups.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Chuck Borge via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the
>> exception of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem
>> to haul me up the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or
>> worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old
>> technology.
>> So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend,
>> should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the
>> install?
>> And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the
>> new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the
>> aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning)
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>>
>> Chuck B
>> C&C 34 Elusive
>> Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

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Bill,

What are you sapping out to?
And what are you hoping to get for the masthead unit? Maybe I'll delay
another season...

Best,

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C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List New instruments?

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Hi Edd, Joel,

Thanks for the info.  It occurred to me that I meant the i50/i60 bundle
(wired).  I was waffling about the wireless, but since I tend to leave the
dodger up, I was concerned about there being enough sunlight to keep the
solar up.
Also, at some point I'll probably get back to racing, and I like the analog
reading on the i60 better.


So let's start over... remarks about the i50/i60 bundle, please?

Thanks,
Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Stus-List New instruments?

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Hi Listers,

I've got KVH Quadro instruments that are working properly, with the
exception of Wind Speed.  The darn cups seem frozen and my wife can't seem
to haul me up the mast.  Regardless, I'm assuming the bearing is toast or
worse, and I'm not sure it is worth investing more money in such old
technology.
So the question is, while thinking about Defender's sale this weekend,
should I swap out to a new Raymarine T-108 bundle?  How tough is the
install?
And lastly, is there a market for the KVH stuff to offset the cost of the
new stuff? I've got a brain, 2 displays and the keypad, plus the
aforementioned masthead unit (anemometer not functioning)

Thanks for any advice,

Chuck B
C&C 34 Elusive
Somerset, MA
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Re: Stus-List Restoring Grip to Winches

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I had a set of aluminum Enkes knurled at a friend's machine shop once.
They were on my J-24, and since I couldn't afford new winches (rather put
the money in sails) if figured what the heck.  they held up ok for a few
seasons, but not having been re-anodized, they gave up some grip over time.

Chuck B
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> Any suggestions for restoring grip to old winches? Mainly I would like to
> rejuvenate my Barient 24's to grip my new line better. I am looking for the
> cheapest and easiest solution. I am not above adding texture with a dremel
> to the drum or the self tailer.
>
> What has been your experience?
>
> Thanks,
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Re: Stus-List Not C&C related.. Ragamuffin 100 hitting 38 knots

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Holy Cow!  What a rush.

Chuck Borge
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Elusive
Somerset, MA


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> One heck of a sled !
>
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsJewTrY5v0
>
> Regards,
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Re: Stus-List Furling the main

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Burt,

Lazy-jacks, Stackpack (Doyle sails), Mack Pack...
I'm having my Stackpack replaced this winter, makes life a lot easier when
solo, or with mixologists.

Chuck
Elusive
C&C 34


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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List <
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> This is another newby question but I know you guys will be kind… and
> helpful
>
>
>
> I spoke with another sailor this weekend who informed me that there is
> some sort of rigging set up that actually assists in the raising and
> lowering of one’s mains’l
>
>
>
> I cannot for the life of me remember what it was called but I have seen
> them on many other yachts. It looks like a web of lines on both sides of
> the main. The function being to help furl it onto the top of your boom when
> lowering or keeping it out of the water when raising. It also looks like it
> might second as a topping lift.
>
>
>
> Mt question is what is it called and where might I find it (or is it
> something we just make out of spare lines and install ourselves… because we
> are sailors, after all)
>
>
>
> This could be the answer to my primary concern sailing with a crew that
> specializes in mixology. I can furl my jib myself while driving the boat
> (roller furl). The main is by far my biggest challenge.
>
>
>
> 1974 C&C 33 - 3 quarter tonner
>
> On keel blocks in 5 feet of snow
>
> Walpole, MA
>
>
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