Re: Screensaver running only on one display with a multiple display setup
On Jun 10, 2023, at 12:45, Gabriel Zachmann via Cocoa-dev wrote: > > Two of the instances never reach method -viewDidMoveToWindow. > > Is there a way to instrument the source code or the executable, such that I > can receive a line-by-line trace of the execution of the three screensaver > instances from that user? > > I am wondering if two of the instances are crashing. > But I don't know how to retrieve more info about it (if any). By logging when init and viewDidMoveToWindow methods, you can see when the latter fails to be called. It's a bug Apple needs to fix. They broke it some time ago, then didn't fix it when the partially fixed legacy screensavers in 13.4. Just continue to report their bugs. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Retrieving the EXIF date/time from 250k images
On Jan 16, 2023, at 00:52, Gabriel Zachmann via Cocoa-dev wrote: > > I had thought of that , too. > The reason is that I have no experience whatsoever with the JPEG file format. > Nor with the EXIF file format. > Also, I need to be able to parse at least JPEG, PNG, TIF, GIF, and I'd like > to add HEIC. The file format docs are out there for all of those (at least I assume heic is published, too), and many of them are pretty straight forward. Learning how to read those files is a good learning experience and keeps you from being at the mercy of 3rd party solutions that you have no control over, or that aren't efficient at getting right to the data you need. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Mystery interference with AirPlay
On Jun 15, 2022, at 03:44:41, Gabriel Zachmann via Cocoa-dev wrote: > Making matters worse, I don't have AirPlay. Everybody has Airplay. It's a feature, not a thing. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Programmatically created NSButton is drawn in the wrong position.
On Dec 15, 2020, at 04:49:19, Eyal Redler via Cocoa-dev wrote: > > setting translatesAutoresizingMaskIntoConstraints to yes makes the situation > worse. The buttons are drawn further away than their frames indicate. Are you using Xcode's Interface Debugger to inspect the entire view hierarchy and see what the frames of everything actually are, or are you just measuring pixels in a screenshot or something to determine that they're 6 points to the right? -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How can I get horizontal scrollbars adequate to the widest list entry
On Nov 11, 2020, at 10:13:35, Andreas Falkenhahn wrote: > > Yeah, but size.width is 0 too so something must be wrong in that code... Does it even have a superview at that point? I kinda think it doesn't, because the method you're in is supposed to return the cell view that the table will then stick into the row. And yes, its width will be 0 because it has no content yet. > No, because your words "mess with the constraints" didn't sound like this was > going to be a very elegant solution ;) > > Have you got any code on how to add constraints to the text field? I don't > really have the time to read and understand the whole auto layout shebang > just to give this a try. > > After all, I can't even get the NSTextField's size so I'm a bit skeptical > if auto layout is going to solve this since even such basic things as getting > the NSTextField's size don't seem to work... Well, constraints are the way to go. If you don't want to take the time to learn them or even how tables and view coordinates work, then I'm done offering suggestions. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How can I get horizontal scrollbars adequate to the widest list entry
On Nov 11, 2020, at 09:38:37, Andreas Falkenhahn wrote: > > > Ok, but how can I get those distances? I've tried the following: > >NSView *view = [tableView viewAtColumn:0 row:idx makeIfNecessary:YES]; >NSRect bounds = [view bounds]; > > But bounds.origin.x and bounds.size.width are always 0... Did you try my other suggestions first? If the layout system can handle this for you, then your work is done. You also need to learn how view coordinates work. A view's bounds will almost always have an origin of 0,0. What you want is the view's frame, which is the rectangle of the view as seen by its superview. The field's left offset in its superview is field.frame.origin.x. The field's right offset in its superview is field.superview.frame.size.width - NSMaxX(field.frame). Add those 2 values to the widest measured string width. But really, you should look into the constraint suggestions first. Constraints are powerful and make your job much easier once you learn how they work. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How can I get horizontal scrollbars adequate to the widest list entry
On Nov 11, 2020, at 08:54:02, Andreas Falkenhahn via Cocoa-dev wrote: > > However, this still isn't perfect because the last two characters of the > widest entry are still cut off and replaced by "...". Of course, I can solve > this by just adding something a few points to size.width but of course I > don't want that because I'm looking for a solution that works with all UI > fonts and sizes so hard-coding a certain point value that is added to > size.width is definitely a no-go... Yes, just add a fudge factor to ensure the column will be wide enough to accommodate the string width AND the spacing between the left and right edges of the actual NSTextField in the cell. You can inspect the field in the table to see those distances. You might even be able to mess with the constraints on the text field to force field to never shrink smaller than the text by adding constraints to the field and setting the Content Compression Resistance Priority, Horizontal to 1000 or something at least higher than 750. Try turning on the field's Single Line Mode as well. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Missing log output
On Nov 9, 2020, at 08:10:16, Gabriel Zachmann via Cocoa-dev wrote: > > In more details, my app (written in Swift) logs info using NSLog, like so: > > NSLog( "App group container: %@", container_group_url_!.path ) > > I asked the user to extract the log message using this command in the > Terminal: > > log show --start "2020-07-06 08:20:00" --predicate 'process == "Name of > App"' --info --debug And you're 100% sure the user is doing the right thing, both in your app and with the log command? Why not have them simply look in Console and filter on your app? At any rate, it's good to plan ahead and use a different logging mechanism, one without all the complications and unknowns of the system log. Like #define your own logging command, which can then be routed to any number of different systems, even turned on/off by the user if you plan right. #define log_to_normal 0 #if log_to_normal #define LOG(x, ...) NSLog(x, ##__VA_ARGS__) #else Illustrating 2 different approaches that produce the same result in the end: #define LOG(x, ...) Logger(x, ##__VA_ARGS__) or #define LOG(args...) Logger(__FILE__, __LINE__, __PRETTY_FUNCTION__, args) #endif Where Logger is your own function or class that simply append-writes to a text file in ~/Library/Application Support//log.txt or whatever. The Logger can have an on/off switch that is toggled by a secret menu item so normally it doesn't not log, but when you need the user to turn it on, you can instruct them how to show the secret menu item or whatever. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to parse a log file
On Oct 27, 2020, at 00:54:40, Rob Petrovec wrote: > > While I agree this would be a good thing to have, I don’t see how Xcode > could find the dSYM to use given that they are typically ephemeral. The dSYM > is tied to the build. So if you build your project twice you will have two > different dSYMs. Only the dSYM for the build that generated the crash log > file will be able to symbolicate it. So, if you want to symbolicate your > crash logs you need to save your dSYM files & resulting app bundle somewhere > for each build of your app you publish. Then you can use them to symbolicate > user logs. > What Xcode could do, however, is (given a path to a directory > containing all the dSYMs for your published builds) parse the log to figure > out which dSYM/app bundle pair in the directory to use (probably based on > build info and/or version) and symbolicate. You would also need to take the > additional step of properly updating these values in your project for each > published build. Yes, it would do the same thing that the doc tells us as humans to do, but it could do it much more efficiently and speedily. It can easily find the correct archive, as long as you're a good developer and don't throw out your official build archives. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to parse a log file
> On Oct 26, 2020, at 17:49:59, James Walker via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > I don't see any "Download Debug Symbols" in the Organizer. I don't think it > exists for macOS apps. > > However, one can right-click on an archive and select "Show In Finder", then > once in Finder right-click again and Show Package Contents, and drill down to > find dSyms. (Usually just one, but if your app builds with a private > framework, there could be more.) Yes, Apple needs to remember when writing docs that not all apps are for mobile! I have to refer to that doc every time I get a user crashlog, once or twice a year, and it always take the same amount of time to figure out what they're talking about. I really hope they make this a more automatic feature in Xcode: Open the project, open a crashlog, choose a menu item to symbolicate, and let Xcode do the confusing part about loading the dsym from the archives. -- Steve Mills Drummer, Mac geek ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: CIImage initWithCGLayer is deprecated in 10.11
From CIImage.h: - (instancetype)initWithCGLayer:(CGLayerRef)layer NS_DEPRECATED_MAC(10_4,10_11,"Use initWithCGImage: instead."); - (instancetype)initWithCGLayer:(CGLayerRef)layer options:(nullable CI_DICTIONARY(NSString*,id) *)options NS_DEPRECATED_MAC(10_4,10_11,"Use initWithCGImage:options instead."); ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Alex, I think my favorite part of your response is that, what I said wasn't something to be vaguely recalled, a lost moment enveloped in a foggy memory, a fragment of a conversation hopelessly swallowed by the past. There was no reason to settle for remembering something to the effect of it. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Luther Baker wrote: Steve's entire thread was about giving away his source code -- he even keeps us up to date as it starts to leave his hands ... and you read snippy into that last comment? ... and then decide to publicly call him out on it? Yes. Because I read it as it appeared he was giving away his code, then the repository was pulled down, someone complained and he said something to the effect of now you have learned that nothing's permanent. Considering that he announced giving away the code just a few days ago and pulled the repo already, that part came across as snippy. Is this really necessary? Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/sbdegutis%40gmail.com This email sent to sbdegu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Can scroll direction be changed programmatically?
I found a solution using AppleScript[1] but it seems like it may be fragile (uses magic numbers, etc). Is there another way? -Steven [1] http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/60877/toggle-natural-scrolling-from-command-line-with-reload ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can scroll direction be changed programmatically?
What are you actually trying to accomplish? I often switch between using my rMBP directly, and plugging it into this giant monitor. When I'm just using the rMBP's trackpad, I want the scroll direction to be natural. But when I'm plugged in and using a mouse, I'd prefer it to be unnatural. So I'm hoping to find some way of programmatically doing this. Then I can plug my solution into my Zephyros config and bind it to a global hotkey. This app is super handy. It would be even better actually if I could find some notification that's triggered when you plug into or unplug from an external monitor, then it would automatically toggle this for me. I found out that it's the global defaults key com.apple.swipescrolldirection, but I can't figure out how to force every open app to notice the new value when I set it. Seems like I'd probably have to kill loginwindow or something to get the OS to register that I changed this. And that seems like a dumb idea. -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Can scroll direction be changed programmatically?
Kinda like https://github.com/invariant/Scroll-Reverser ? Someone showed me this and I glanced at the source code, and was not fond of this technique. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Uli Kusterer witness.of.teacht...@gmx.net wrote: On 09.05.2013, at 20:55, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: I found a solution using AppleScript[1] but it seems like it may be fragile (uses magic numbers, etc). Is there another way? I wonder if an event tap and just changing the direction on each scroll event would work? Could also listen to CGDisplayConfigurationChanged callback in the app that filters the events to see when an external screen is plugged in. Cheers, -- Uli Kusterer The Witnesses of TeachText are everywhere... http://www.masters-of-the-void.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Snippy? I'm having a hard time figuring out which part could be snippy. The part about the different interpretations of the sort order of the list of forks? I just found it a neat observation and wanted to share. The part about people deleting their own forks? Just wanted to warn people that they might want to fork one sooner than later. The part about permanence being an illusion? Maybe a bit melancholy, but certainly not snippy. -Steven On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 1:14 AM, Steven Degutis wrote: It's funny how when you say in order of but omit the direction, people have different assumptions: https://github.com/biohazardffm/grs/network/members On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Update: The original repo has been deleted. Take a look at one of these forks, in order of most-recently-forked (and therefore most up-to-date): https://github.com/biohazardffm/grs https://github.com/nivekkagicom/grs https://github.com/cpowers/grs https://github.com/pariahware/grs https://github.com/jinie/grs https://github.com/ddelmonte/grs https://github.com/shaz/grs https://github.com/iainx/grs Goodness knows how long any of these people will keep their forks before they each decide to delete their own fork. If none of them exist by the time you read this, well then sorry. At least you'll have learned sooner than later that permanence is an illusion. -Steven sarcasmThank you for teaching us so much./sarcasm That's a rather snippy comment to send off to the list. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Alex, does this mean you aren't gonna buy me a PaintCode license out of gratitude? Dang. :( On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Alex Zavatone z...@mac.com wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Luther Baker wrote: Steve's entire thread was about giving away his source code -- he even keeps us up to date as it starts to leave his hands ... and you read snippy into that last comment? ... and then decide to publicly call him out on it? Yes. Because I read it as it appeared he was giving away his code, then the repository was pulled down, someone complained and he said something to the effect of now you have learned that nothing's permanent. Considering that he announced giving away the code just a few days ago and pulled the repo already, that part came across as snippy. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Alternatively, anyone and everyone is welcome to fork these apps, or do whatever you want with them. I'm releasing all of that repo under the MIT license. Give them away for free, sell them, whatever, I don't care. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Also, I've just updated the README to include all sorts of pertinent information. Please consult it for important details on each app. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Alternatively, anyone and everyone is welcome to fork these apps, or do whatever you want with them. I'm releasing all of that repo under the MIT license. Give them away for free, sell them, whatever, I don't care. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Ok. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Tom von Schwerdtner tomv...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs (...) For the curious, I'm giving them away because I think something got cut off here...? -Tom ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Few updates: 1. I'm leaving the repo up for a little while so people can fork it. Anyone who wants to learn how a 5-year Cocoa dev does things, can just browse the source code, and maybe learn a thing or two. 2. I was mistaken on their income, it's more like $20 a month (with no marketing), if that. Sorry for the misinformation. 3. Several people have claimed an app or two, and they plan to put it in the App Store. So if you're one of them, just check to make sure it's not in the App Store first. If there's nothing there with the same name, then you're good to go. 4. Found some stray reviews from a few months ago. Put them in the README for easy finding. 5. Trying to figure out how to take apps down from the Mac App Store, once they're down I'll ping the final pong to this list. -Steven On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I've just updated the README to include all sorts of pertinent information. Please consult it for important details on each app. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Alternatively, anyone and everyone is welcome to fork these apps, or do whatever you want with them. I'm releasing all of that repo under the MIT license. Give them away for free, sell them, whatever, I don't care. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
I'll spare your partner the effort. This is the exhaustive list: - http://www.macworld.com/article/1142376/docks2.html - http://www.addictivetips.com/mac-os/get-email-alerts-mac-menu-bar-shortcuts-for-multiple-gmail-accounts/ - https://twitter.com/unclebobmartin/status/309712348044730368 - https://twitter.com/trptcolin/status/309324069134794755 - Plus the App Store reviews that I put in the readme file -Steven On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Scott Andrew scottand...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hmmm. Wonder how long they'll last. Can you do me a bit of research. See if you can find reviews on these. The read me in the link has their names. See what people think of em. Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/scottandrew%40roadrunner.com This email sent to scottand...@roadrunner.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Also, sorry about the unfinished sentence at the end, it happened because On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Okay, the apps are removed from the App Store. Have at it. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Also, sorry about the unfinished sentence at the end, it happened because On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
I really have no idea how many people have claimed what. They're open source and MIT, so if you want to take any, just fork it. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Danny W. Pimienta da...@tapswipepinch.com wrote: Any of the apps left unclaimed? I'm not at a computer at the moment but would like to take one. Sent from my iPhone On May 7, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/danny%40tapswipepinch.com This email sent to da...@tapswipepinch.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
Update: The original repo has been deleted. Take a look at one of these forks, in order of most-recently-forked (and therefore most up-to-date): https://github.com/biohazardffm/grs https://github.com/nivekkagicom/grs https://github.com/cpowers/grs https://github.com/pariahware/grs https://github.com/jinie/grs https://github.com/ddelmonte/grs https://github.com/shaz/grs https://github.com/iainx/grs Goodness knows how long any of these people will keep their forks before they each decide to delete their own fork. If none of them exist by the time you read this, well then sorry. At least you'll have learned sooner than later that permanence is an illusion. -Steven On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Main Window Disappears when Loaded from Separate NIB File
ARC is on. Retain the window controller. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Thomas Wetmore t...@verizon.net wrote: I hope someone can put me straight. I created a vanilla Cocoa App. I deleted the window from the MainMenu.xib and created a MainWindow.xib with essentially an identical window (no views). I created a MainWindowController with one overriding method, init, see below. In the app delegate's applicationDidFinishLaunching method I create the main window controller and attempt to show the main window. If I breakpoint just after the [mainController showWindow: nil] method I can see the proper user interface with the main menu and main window. However, when I let the program run the window immediately disappears. As none of my code runs after that point I'm at a bit of a loss discovering what makes the window go away. What am I doing (or not doing) that causes the main window to close or become invisible? The code is below. Thanks, Tom Wetmore AppDelegate.h: -- @interface AppDelegate : NSObject NSApplicationDelegate @end AppDelegate.m: -- #import AppDelegate.h #import MainWindowController.h @implementation AppDelegate - (void) applicationDidFinishLaunching: (NSNotification*) aNotification { MainWindowController* mainController = [[MainWindowController alloc] init]; [mainController window]; // force controller to load nib. [mainController showWindow: nil]; // show window -- which promptly disappears } @end MainWindowController.h: --- @interface MainWindowController : NSWindowController @end MainWindowController.m: --- #import MainWindowController.h @implementation MainWindowController - (id) init { return [super initWithWindowNibName: @MainWindow]; } @end ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/sbdegutis%40gmail.com This email sent to sbdegu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Showing numpad key equivs in menu items
That's the problem with legacy. We learn from the past, and realize our mistakes. But sometimes we can't fix them, because users already depend on them. Or rather, we do fix them, and anger lots of people who need it to keep working the old way. Reminds me of http://xkcd.com/1172/ ... legacy: can't live with it, can't get rid of it. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, gweston gwes...@mac.com wrote: Steve Mills said: Such software has already established the precedent that it needs lots and lots of keyboard shortcuts. (Finale is well over 10 years old, IIRC.) Steve isn't condemning users to a keyboard shortcut nightmare, he's continuing a well-established though specialized UI pattern. On this point I 100% agree with Steve's right to continue the tradition without molestation. Finally, somebody that understands. Thanks for explaining it all. Don't confuse disagreement with lack of understanding. I understood what you were asking perfectly. I didn't say you absolutely shouldn't do it. You might recall that I even made a good faith suggestion for a technique that might accomplish it. But I also offered a reasoned rationale for why carrying that forward *might* not be the best use of your efforts. You reacted with snide hostility to a polite and sincere attempt to help you make your software as good as it could be. Think about that for a bit. (And that goes double for Steven who claimed that making such suggestions was the mark of a fanboy.) In that case, I think Steve needs to quit whining that Apple engineers aren't doing his job for him, and implement his own menu drawing for his specialized case. It's not that Apple isn't doing my job for me, it's that they're not doing their own job. Carbon had this ability. They didn't re-add it in Cocoa. That's what I'm complaining about. Apple killed Carbon and said use Cocoa! It's amazing! Convert all your apps now! That would be a whole lot easier if Cocoa offered everything that Carbon did. You need to consider the possibility that Apple decided that not everything Carbon was able to do was legitimate to carry forward. That some of it might have even been fundamentally detrimental to user experience. It's among the most common reasons for behavior to be deprecated. Yes, if Apple comes up with better glyphs for numpad keys (and some of the others while they're at it), then that's all the better. Somewhere I recall seeing a little numpad icon beside the actual key character. Even that would be more obvious than a rounded rect around the character. You may be surprised to hear that I agree. Remember, I made two arguments. Not everyone has the keys and the glyph isn't sufficiently descriptive. Better glyph immediately eliminates the more problematic half of my concern. You could quite easily do the little numpad icon yourself, just like whatever developer created the one you remember. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/sbdegutis%40gmail.com This email sent to sbdegu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
One more thing: If you end up doing something cool with any of these apps, please let me know. I'm kinda nerdy so I like hearing about that kinda stuff. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wanted: new owner for Mac apps
It's funny how when you say in order of but omit the direction, people have different assumptions: https://github.com/biohazardffm/grs/network/members On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Update: The original repo has been deleted. Take a look at one of these forks, in order of most-recently-forked (and therefore most up-to-date): https://github.com/biohazardffm/grs https://github.com/nivekkagicom/grs https://github.com/cpowers/grs https://github.com/pariahware/grs https://github.com/jinie/grs https://github.com/ddelmonte/grs https://github.com/shaz/grs https://github.com/iainx/grs Goodness knows how long any of these people will keep their forks before they each decide to delete their own fork. If none of them exist by the time you read this, well then sorry. At least you'll have learned sooner than later that permanence is an illusion. -Steven On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: These ones: https://github.com/sdegutis/grs They're a lovely little set of Mac apps. Most of them are on the App Store, and with absolutely no marketing they've been making about $42 per month. I'm sure with marketing they'll do much better. This repo also includes AppGrid, which had a huge cult following for the 20 people I've given away free licenses to. They all highly prefer it over Divvy/SizeUp/etc. But again, haven't done marketing. If anyone's interested in taking any or all these apps, just let me know. I'll take them off the store and you can put them up. For the curious, I'm giving them away because -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Showing numpad key equivs in menu items
Part of the territory. Apple knows better than you, thus so do its fanboys. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Steve Mills smi...@makemusic.com wrote: On May 6, 2013, at 16:58:10, gweston gwes...@mac.com wrote: In light of the great opportunity for user confusion - because a little rectangle around the number is hardly a clear indicator - and the reality that many users do not have a number pad, I think the solution I'd recommend is to rethink the choice of key equivalents so as to obviate the problem. So a rounded rect around a number is not a clear indictor that it's a different character? People have been able to clearly see the difference between í, ì, and i for hundreds of years, so that's a pretty lame excuse. I've never been confused seeing these numpad glyphs in good ol' Carbon menus. That said, if you insist on going down this path, it might work to include NSNumericPadKeyMask in the key equivalent mask for the item. This only affects the key used to trigger it, not the appearance of the glyph in the menu item. But seriously: Think about how much you want to annoy notebook users first. OK, we'll annoy them by taking away key equivs they've been used to using in our app for the past umpteen years. Why is it that people on these lists prefer giving their opinions instead of technical knowledge? -- Steve Mills office: 952-818-3871 home: 952-401-6255 cell: 612-803-6157 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/sbdegutis%40gmail.com This email sent to sbdegu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Enable Unique Selection
Personally I would just use the value transformer approach. It's easy, obvious, and discoverable. Any other solution I can think up with would be lacking in at least one of these. I actually find value transformers to be super helpful when working with bindings. I've used one for an empty string (that trims newlines and whitespace before checking length), for an empty array, and probably some more. On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Gerriet M. Denkmann gerr...@mdenkmann.de wrote: On 3 May 2013, at 17:07, Andy Lee ag...@mac.com wrote: On May 3, 2013, at 1:29 AM, Gerriet M. Denkmann gerr...@mdenkmann.de wrote: I have a button which only makes sense when exactly one thing is selected. Currently it's Enabled property is bound to Array Controller.selectedObjects.@count. I.e. the button is enabled if one or more things are selected. But I want it to be disabled when nothing is selected AND also if more than one thing is selected. Is there a way to do this without code? If not - what to do ? Create a value transformer? Or what else? I vaguely remember doing this by adding a readonly property to the array controller -- something like exactlyOneIsSelected -- with a corresponding getter method. Then you can bind to ArrayController.exactlyOneIsSelected. Then the question would be how to trigger KVO on that property. I don't remember what I did. My first thought would be to implement +(NSSet *)keyPathsForValuesAffectingExactlyOneIsSelected, but I'm not sure what to return. Maybe @selectionIndexes? Would @selectedObjects.@count work? I don't know if you can use aggregation in keyPaths...Affecting... methods. It might be useful to implement these methods on a category of NSArrayController if you need this logic in multiple places. As usual I have a nagging feeling there's a better way, but this at least should work. An interesting idea. I created a ValueTransformer like: @implementation UniqueTransformer + (Class)transformedValueClass { return [ NSNumber class ]; } - (id)transformedValue:(id)value { BOOL unique = [ value respondsToSelector: @selector(integerValue) ] [ value integerValue ] == 1; return @(unique); } @end Seems to me rather less code. Maybe still not the best way to do it, but the best I could think of. Kind regards, Gerriet. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/sbdegutis%40gmail.com This email sent to sbdegu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Is FSEvents more efficient than polling?
There is a library I'm using that is reading a list of files every 0.5 seconds and watching for the last-modified attribute to change. Is this less efficient than using FSEvents? If so, how? For example, will it weak down the HDD or SSD faster? Run the battery of my laptop out sooner? Some other way? Thanks. -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Is FSEvents more efficient than polling?
Let me give a little more context. The app is a Clojure test-auto-runner[1], that spins up the JVM and watches files to reload and re-run the tests for[2]. I'm concerned that running this auto-runner on my laptop is killing the SSD and battery quicker. Especially because these rMBPs don't have easily-replaceable parts, so once it's dead, it's probably dead for good. If it is a real concern, I have a plan. I previously wrote a little utility before called fswatch[3] that watches for changes and runs a script. I can just alter this stay open until you kill it, and print the changed files to stdout at every fs-event. Then I'd just open this process in Clojure and watch its stdout for files and reload when I see them. [1] https://github.com/slagyr/fresh/blob/master/src/fresh/core.clj [2] See the usage section in the URL x-dictionary:preposition [3] https://github.com/crh/fswatch On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Michael Starke michael.sta...@hicknhack-software.com wrote: An educated guess would be that polling should be less efficient as the event based FSEvents. Any reason you do not want to tap into the FSEvents API? You concerns about weakening is nothing I would consider, as you're talking about reading, which should be considered harmless (in the physical sense, not the performance point of view) -Michael On 28.04.2013, at 19:43, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: There is a library I'm using that is reading a list of files every 0.5 seconds and watching for the last-modified attribute to change. Is this less efficient than using FSEvents? If so, how? For example, will it weak down the HDD or SSD faster? Run the battery of my laptop out sooner? Some other way? Thanks. -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/michael.starke%40hicknhack-software.com This email sent to michael.sta...@hicknhack-software.com ___m i c h a e l s t a r k e geschäftsführer HicknHack Software GmbH www.hicknhack-software.com ___k o n t a k t +49 (170) 3686136 cont...@hicknhack.com ___H i c k n H a c k S o f t w a r e G m b H geschäftsführer - maik lathan | andreas reischuck | michael starke bayreuther straße 32 01187 dresden amtsgericht dresden HRB 30351 sitz - dresden ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/sbdegutis%40gmail.com This email sent to sbdegu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ^Block statement considered harmful for callbacks?
Using blocks with ARC just requires more discipline, that's all. It isn't to be avoided, just carefully thought about at the appropriate times. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Oleg Krupnov oleg.krup...@gmail.comwrote: The compiler indeed warns, but only for ARC projects, and for non-ARC projects it perfectly allows blocks to create retain cycles without any warnings, even Xcode's Analyze doesn't help. Besides, I'm afraid the compiler is not always capable to detect all such dangerous situations even with ARC on. So I am afraid it ends up with lots of retain cycles in virtually every project that uses blocks, but programmers just don't notice and/or just don't care. Do you often check your projects for leaks of this kind? You will be surprised if you do try. My point remains: blocks are dangerous and there is no easy way to ensure they are safe. You can't avoid referencing self in blocks, because it is the very point of almost every callback block. So you have to every time to remind yourself to jump through hoops to avoid the retain cycles. Nah. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Tom Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 Apr 2013, at 11:40, Diederik Meijer | Ten Horses diede...@tenhorses.com wrote: I don't agree, blocks are very powerful. I am using Xcode 4.6 and in a project that uses ARC it was throwing warnings when a block reference to a property caused a retain cycle. This is how I found it and why I mentioned it in another thread in the first place. I haven't tested it extensively, but it looks as if the compiler recognises these situations easily and then tells you about it. So I wouldn't call blocks dangerous at all… You're right – the compiler *is* detecting some simple cases, as I suggested! Note – this does not make throwing blocks around without paying attention to retain cycles inherently safe though, the compiler can not statically infer all potential cycles. Thanks Tom Davie ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/sbdegutis%40gmail.com This email sent to sbdegu...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
True, but I'm confident they don't care. :) On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.comwrote: On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Called Windows.app. ... I think someone may have used the name Windows already... Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
Thanks :) The crux of it is that you can bind global hotkeys to your own JavaScript (or CoffeeScript) functions, and from your JS (or CS) config file, you have access to an API[1] that lets you control and inspect all open windows and apps. On the wiki I have some examples of how you can use this to make something kind of like a tiling window manager. One of them[2] mimics the closed-source app AppGrid[3] that I wrote the other week (which actually turned out to be a spectacular commercial failure because I don't know how to market). Technically the API is ObjC, so it could do anything you can otherwise do in an app, it's not just limited to letting you move/resize windows. For example, last night I added the functions `open` and `shell`, and today I added a binding to my own config[4] that opens Dictionary.app. [1] https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp#api [2] https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/wiki/AppGrid-config [3] http://giantrobotsoftware.com/appgrid [4] https://github.com/sdegutis/home/blob/master/.windowsapp.coffee#L13 -Steven On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: Fantastic! What does it do? --Graham On 18/04/2013, at 2:44 AM, Steven Degutis sbdegu...@gmail.com wrote: Called Windows.app. Source is on github: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript. In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very simple API that the app exposes in JS-land. I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each time you reload your config isn't ideal. My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at BNR. Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but github. The details are in this build.sh file: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
ANN: new open-source window manager for OS X
Called Windows.app. Source is on github: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp What's particularly neat about it is how you configure it. It looks for a dotfile in your home dir, which can either be JavaScript or CoffeeScript. In this config file you, bind your hot keys as you want, using a very simple API that the app exposes in JS-land. I managed to get JavaScript scripting working via JSCocoa, and CoffeeScript via coffeescript.js and Coffeescript.compile(). Technically I hide the ObjJ syntax away, since most people are much more comfortable in pure JS than in ObjJ. I was looking into adding ClojureScript support, but I'm not yet sure how to avoid the start-up delay when running java. Waiting 5 seconds each time you reload your config isn't ideal. My first choice for scripting was to use MacRuby, but it only works with GC apps, and this one uses ARC. I hear they've got ARC in the works, so my fingers are crossed for the future. Also, PyObjC is really hard to integrate into an app. Ironically enough, when I was googling for how to do it, I found an article I wrote about it 3 years ago when I was working at BNR. Also, I created a technique for generating appcasts statically from the command line, and hosting the appcast on github, that might be interesting to other open source authors who don't want to have any other hosting but github. The details are in this build.sh file: https://github.com/sdegutis/windowsapp/blob/master/build.sh My apologies if new-app announcements are off-topic, but I think this one is particularly suitable for cocoa-dev because of the technical details. -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Apple Aperture-like look feel
otool is your friend when you want to find these things out. Aperture, Logic and the other Apple Pro apps use a framework called ProKit. It is internal and private. See: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ProKit.framework The images are in a custom binary file: /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/ProKit.framework/Versions/A/Resources/ProThemeBits.car W. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSDocument disc undo stack
If there's no mechanism to persist the app undo states and undo manager messages, how should apps that support undo work with the automatic termination behaviour ? Should automatic termination be set dynamically and disabled when undo history is present ? A user might be annoyed if the undo history were lost when the app went off screen. the system may also quit an app with open windows if the app is not currently on screen, perhaps because the user hid it or switched spaces. TextEdit (in 10.7) retains its undo history beyond save, until the document or application is closed. Steven. On 25/03/2012, at 5:34 AM, Doug Clinton wrote: I don't know if this was the issue that Steven was asking about, but I've been wondering if there is a recommended way to persist the undo stack so that it's still available if you restart the app, or close and re-open the document. It's always bothered me that there is this great mechanism for handling undo, but that all the history is thrown away when you close the app. No easy way I know of. The undo architecture relies on a huge amount of state within the app external to the undo stack itself. You'd have to save all of that state somehow. In fact, most apps throw away the undo history on a document save (you arrange this), as a way to recover the memory used by undo, since the whole state is being saved in the file anyway. Versions are the supported mechanism for persistent document undo. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSDocument disc undo stack
Thanks for the info Graham. I'm using NSUndoManager. I thought that many large objects in the stack would cause memory pressure and would be better occupying disc space as they are only needed at undo/redo time. Good to know that the VM system will take care of it. Steven. On 24 Mar 2012, at 01:04, Graham Cox wrote: You can read and write to the Application Support folder. But FILES in an Undo stack? That makes little sense to me. If you want to undo changes to a file, store the changes or the command that will cause the changes in the undo stack. If you are changing the organisation of files on disc then save a description of that organisation in the undo stack. You may want to read up on the way Cocoa utilises Undo, because it sounds like you might not have a good grasp on it. Even if you need to store very large objects in the undo stack, unless you can prove it's a serious problem, just let the memory get paged to disk VM naturally. It's rare that users need to undo a very long history, so even if the older history is paged out, the chances are the user will never know. --Graham On 24/03/2012, at 10:17 AM, Steven wrote: Hello, Where is the correct place to store an on-disc undo stack associated with a NSDocument instance ? The stack may contain several potentially large files so we don't want them to occupy memory. For a compound document the stack could reside in a directory NSFileWrapper. For a single file document should a temporary directory be used ? I guess the chosen location may need to persist beyond the occurrence of the automatic termination feature. Any advice appreciated. Thanks. Steven. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/graham.cox%40bigpond.com This email sent to graham@bigpond.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
NSDocument disc undo stack
Hello, Where is the correct place to store an on-disc undo stack associated with a NSDocument instance ? The stack may contain several potentially large files so we don't want them to occupy memory. For a compound document the stack could reside in a directory NSFileWrapper. For a single file document should a temporary directory be used ? I guess the chosen location may need to persist beyond the occurrence of the automatic termination feature. Any advice appreciated. Thanks. Steven. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: __block __weak - am I doing this right?
The same issue came up again later the same day: __block UIBackgroundTaskIdentifier bti = [[UIApplication sharedApplication] beginBackgroundTaskWithExpirationHandler: ^{ [[UIApplication sharedApplication] endBackgroundTask:bti]; }]; Without __block, bti is invalid, and you won't find that out easily because it's unlikely that you'll actually expire. :) m. Can this be right? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: __block __weak - am I doing this right?
Thanks, I'm just surprised that this common, often cited example is broken. http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bwQY3_5FMg8Cpg=PA775lpg=PA775dq=beginBackgroundTaskWithExpirationHandlersource=blots=aMuw5-hiP6sig=NFKFDhaPw41KnfOo1n7Z_OaJflMhl=ensa=Xei=T-s_T76JEaOl0AW0y-iPDwved=0CGoQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepageq=beginBackgroundTaskWithExpirationHandlerf=false That's an awful lot of broken code. On 18 February 2012 17:23, Fritz Anderson fri...@manoverboard.org wrote: On 18 Feb 2012, at 7:41 AM, steven Hooley wrote: The same issue came up again later the same day: __block UIBackgroundTaskIdentifier bti = [[UIApplication sharedApplication] beginBackgroundTaskWithExpirationHandler: ^{ [[UIApplication sharedApplication] endBackgroundTask:bti]; }]; Without __block, bti is invalid, and you won't find that out easily because it's unlikely that you'll actually expire. :) m. Can this be right? If I understand why you're mystified, consider this, without the __block declaration. - bti starts as junk. - The block is instantiated, and captures the junk _value_ (because it's not a __block variable) of bti. - The beginBackgroundTask… method creates the background task identifier. - That identifier is then assigned to bti. bti is no longer junk, but that does the block no good, because it's already captured the junk value. If bti is declared __block, the block captures (notionally) a _reference_ to bti. It doesn't evaluate bti until it executes, which will be after the assignment. — F ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: __block __weak - am I doing this right?
That's exactly *why* I've been asking about it - so I can fix it (and explain the fix) for the new edition: Sorry, I did not mean to imply 'many people have done it wrong because of this book'. What i Failed at saying was but.. I've seen this pattern everywhere, even in Apple sample code, it can't be a bug!. I thought this because i'd never seen the taskId declared as __block in the sample code or docs. Of course, i'd made an error not noticing that in the sample code/docs the UIBackgroundTaskIdentifier is always an iVar and not realising that this was critical to it's operation (and why i'd never seen it declared __block). I really appreciate you finding my bugs for me. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSView mouseDown truncated coordinates
Many thanks for your replies, Jens and Ken. I use the mouseMoved event to set the mouse cursor according to whether a NSBezierPath instance contains the mouse point [pathInstance containsPoint:], to indicate whether the path can be moved. There is no scale transformation on the view. On the boundary of the path, the mouseMoved and the mouseDown events disagree whether the mouse point is contained by the path even though the mouse pointer has not moved. e.g. mouseMoved says the point is outside the path, whereas mouseDown says it is inside the path. The cursor indication gives a false impression that the path cannot be moved when it actually can be moved. The disagreement is caused by the fractional part of the location coordinates in mouseMoved and the integral coordinates in mouseDown. I thought that high precision mouse/trackpad movement was possible and that the location could be adjusted to match the screen resolution using NSView centerScanRect. However, centerScanRect (arithmetically) rounds the location to the nearest pixel whereas mouseDown has truncated the location. It looks like I may have to truncate the coordinates in mouseMoved, to match what mouseDown does. I noticed that NSWindow mouseLocationOutsideOfEventStream does produce the non-integral coordinates when called from mouseDown, though that may not be the right direction to go. Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
NSView mouseDown truncated coordinates
Hi, I'm using a NSTrackingArea in a view to receive mouseMoved events. The cursor location in the mouseMoved and mouseDragged events have non-integer coordinates (as expected). e.g. x:140.601562 y:128.082031 However, the mouseDown and mouseUp events always produce truncated coordinates. e.g. x:140.00 y:128.00 This causes inaccuracy with hit testing between mouseMoved and mouseDown. All the mouse events use the same code to convert the point for the view : NSPoint location = [self convertPoint:[theEvent locationInWindow] fromView:nil]; Logged as e.g. NSLog(@moved x:%f y:%f, location.x, location.y); What is the correct way to obtain coordinates that are consistent across all the mouse events ? Thanks. Steven (Xcode 4.2.1 64bit LLVM 3.0 ARC) ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
NSBezierPath HiDPI
Hello, What is the correct way to draw a pixel aligned bezier path for HiDPI display modes ? I've got the following code to draw a rounded rectangle in both standard 1440x900 and HiDPI 720x450 resolutions, though it seems overly complex. Is there a simpler solution, perhaps an api method ? I have to rerun the code for it to take account of a display resolution change, how do I fix this ? Thanks. Steven Lion, Xcode 4.1, Garbage collection on. -- #import Cocoa/Cocoa.h @interface TestView : NSView { NSBezierPath *thePath; } - (NSAffineTransform *)transformationToDrawBezierPath:(NSBezierPath *)path alignedInView:(NSView *)view centredAtX:(CGFloat)x y:(CGFloat)y alignPathWidth:(BOOL)alignPathWidth; @end -- #import TestView.h @implementation TestView - (id)initWithFrame:(NSRect)frame { self = [super initWithFrame:frame]; if (self) { NSRect bounds = NSMakeRect(100.0, 100.0, 60.0, 60.0); thePath = [NSBezierPath bezierPathWithRoundedRect:bounds xRadius:6.0 yRadius:6.0]; [thePath setLineWidth:0.0]; } return self; } - (BOOL)isFlipped { return YES; } - (void)drawRect:(NSRect)dirtyRect { NSAffineTransform* transform = [self transformationToDrawBezierPath:thePath alignedInView:self centredAtX:123.0 y:84.0 alignPathWidth:YES]; [transform concat]; [[NSColor blueColor] set]; [thePath stroke]; [transform invert]; [transform concat]; } - (NSAffineTransform *)transformationToDrawBezierPath:(NSBezierPath *)path alignedInView:(NSView *)view centredAtX:(CGFloat)x y:(CGFloat)y alignPathWidth:(BOOL)alignPathWidth; { CGFloat onePixelWidth = [self convertSizeFromBacking:NSMakeSize(1.0, 1.0)].width; CGFloat halfPixelWidth = onePixelWidth * 0.5; NSInteger lineWidthPixelCount = MAX(1, (NSInteger) round([path lineWidth] / onePixelWidth)); BOOL isLineWidthEven = lineWidthPixelCount %2 == 0; NSRect pathBounds = [path bounds]; NSRect alignedBounds = [self centerScanRect:pathBounds]; NSRect insideBounds; NSPoint pathCentrePoint = NSMakePoint(NSMidX(pathBounds), NSMidY(pathBounds)); //Note : used centerScanRect to align the target point as, convertPointToBacking, //only modified the y coordinate (followed by convertPointFromBacking). NSRect target = [self centerScanRect:NSMakeRect(x, y, 1.0, 1.0)]; if (isLineWidthEven) { //Place an even line width path between pixels insideBounds = alignedBounds; } else { //Inset an odd line width path on the centre of pixels insideBounds = NSInsetRect(alignedBounds, halfPixelWidth, halfPixelWidth); } if (alignPathWidth) { [path setLineWidth:lineWidthPixelCount * onePixelWidth]; } CGFloat xScale = insideBounds.size.width / pathBounds.size.width; CGFloat yScale = insideBounds.size.height / pathBounds.size.height; CGFloat xScaleInverse = 1.0 / xScale; CGFloat yScaleInverse = 1.0 / yScale; NSAffineTransform* transform = [NSAffineTransform transform]; //Scale about the path centre [transform translateXBy:pathCentrePoint.x yBy:pathCentrePoint.y]; [transform scaleXBy:xScale yBy:yScale]; //Position the path [transform translateXBy:-pathCentrePoint.x + ((target.origin.x - pathCentrePoint.x) * xScaleInverse) yBy:-pathCentrePoint.y + ((target.origin.y - pathCentrePoint.y) * yScaleInverse)]; return transform; } @end ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New allowsExternalBinaryDataStorage in Core Data
It seems that when the image (or data in general) is larger than 1MB, it's stored in a hidden folder in the same place as your main database. For example, if the application is called MyLionApp and its persistent store is located in the ~/Library/MyLionApp folder, the external files would be stored in ~/Library/MyLionApp/.MyLionApp_SUPPORT/_EXTERNAL_DATA/. The documentation is indeed very sparse, so I've investigated a bit myself and posted the results here : http://bluecrowbar.com/blog/2011/08/coredata-external.html Steven On Aug 3, 2011, at 10:29 PM, Frédéric Testuz wrote: Hello, I looked at the Core Data release notes of Lion, I also looked the What's new in Core Data on Mac OS X video of the WWDC 2011. And I have a question about the new allowsExternalBinaryDataStorage option for binary attribute. I did some test with an attribute for images. I can see that when I put an big image in the data, the file did not grow. But where the external file/data is put? If the file is moved or copied, what about theses external data? I tried to find info, but the documentation is very sparse. Frédéric___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven%40bluecrowbar.com This email sent to ste...@bluecrowbar.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Code style (was: Notify With Parameters)
Slightly OT: Does Apple offer a tool similar to 'indent' for formatting? I've never tried indent on Objective C files because it does a miserable job on C++ source files. I use Uncrustify http://uncrustify.sourceforge.net/ Hope that helps. W. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Properties vs Instance Variables
I am currently learning objective c and cocoa I believe I understand the difference between properties and instance variables, and the effect of using properties as opposed to instance variables viz a viz KVO and memory management. What I can't understand is why you would access instance variables directly within a class. My quess is speed. Is there any other reason? And related to this, why give instance variables a name different to the name of the property. Again, I suspect it may be a matter of style, but would like to know if there are cases where it is a necessity. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
computing values within NSTableView using bindings
I have an NSTableView with 3 columns. The first contains an NSPop-up which takes as its datasource an array of objects with two properties, name and cost. The name is displayed. The user enters a quantity in the 2nd column. How do I go about displaying the cost in the third column? I can bind that column to the quantity key, but don't then know the cost, or I can bind the column to get the cost, but don't then know the quantity? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
RE: How To Increment CALayer Retain Count?
I know its not very popular, but I've disciplined myself to set all variables (including stack) to their low or unused state when finished with them. It helps locate reuse problems in Debug builds (and I really don't care a bit about the 3 cycles). The optimizer can remove it later if it desires. Sure, setting the variable to nil in dealloc is good practice, just either do it with [foo release]; foo = nil; How is it good practice? The only thing that this can get you is masking a bug. Don't do it. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSUndoManager retain/release of arguments - ad infinitum
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but my first thought, for what it's worth is that either :- a) sort order is a property of the window, not your model and shouldn't be undoable at all. What happens if you want another view - say a grid view, with nice big icons - of the same data?. Should that be sorted in the same way as your tableView? Should clicking the tableView header rearrange views in other windows? If not.. now you have an undo-stack per window and you must make sure that they stay in sync. ie. Adding and removing items happens in both views, and removing an item from one view is undoable in another, but the sorting and undoing sorting only applies to the relevant view. This will get pretty messy pretty quickly. Ok, so you never want to add another view, you're happy with the single table view. I expect an undoable-action to be a saveable-action. ie, normally, if i can undo it i expect it to make the document dirty and need saving. This might be different in your app but i don't normally expect to have to Save a document because i switched between sorting alphabetically-ascending and alphabetically-descending order. OR b) the sort order is inherently part of your model, your data is an ordered-set and the user can arbitrarily order the items as she pleases. In this case you probably won't be presenting your data with a sort descriptor, clicking on the column header will actually rearrange your model data. Undo/Redo often makes my head hurt, and not always the fault of NSUndoManager. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Math.h functions with CGFloat
Is there a preferred way to use the Math.h functions with CGFloats that is 32 and 64 bit safe? Do some Macros already exist somewhere? Should i even be using Math.h functions in Cocoa? Thanks ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Fwd: Math.h functions with CGFloat
Sorry, 'safe' was a bad choice. I do care because i have compiler warnings. I have started defining macros for each function and thought i better check that they didn't already exist. Thankyou On 10 August 2010 14:54, Alastair Houghton alast...@alastairs-place.net wrote: On 10 Aug 2010, at 13:42, steven Hooley wrote: Is there a preferred way to use the Math.h functions with CGFloats that is 32 and 64 bit safe? Why would they be unsafe? (They aren't.) It's possible that using the double versions (the ones without the f suffix) is inefficient in 32-bit mode, but in practice you're very unlikely to notice. If you particularly cared, you could #define some macros for them, but I doubt it's worthwhile unless you're going to do some heavy-duty geometry (and in that case, you might find that you want to use double anyway, for accuracy). BTW, math.h isn't capitalised; please don't use random upper-case letters when including header files... it causes grief if your source code is ever moved somewhere case-sensitive. Should i even be using Math.h functions in Cocoa? Why should you not? Kind regards, Alastair. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Math.h functions with CGFloat
Yes, sorry - i meant /usr/include/math.h Because CGFloat is typedef'd to float on 32bit and double on 64bit i have to swap between, eg, atan and atanf depending on my build settings. I have a framework which is intended to support 32bit and 64bit. I thought this may have been a common scenario and some useful macros might already exist. Thanks On 10 August 2010 14:10, lbland lbl...@vvi.com wrote: hi- On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:42 AM, steven Hooley wrote: Is there a preferred way to use the Math.h functions with CGFloats that is 32 and 64 bit safe? Do some Macros already exist somewhere? Should i even be using Math.h functions in Cocoa? What do you mean by Math.h ? Do you mean: math.h (/usr/include/math.h) ? You can use math.h in Cocoa. math.h is a C standard and doesn't know about CGFloat (except that CGFloat is typedef to double or float). math.h functions generally take doubles (with implicit promotion of floats), or you can use the float counterpart (such as cos() v.s. cosf() ). thanks!- -lance ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Math.h functions with CGFloat
But then e.g. when building 32-bit i still have to cast the return value or i get the warning:- 'implicit conversion shortens 64-bit value into a 32-bit value' It seems that this warning is my fault because i have added the flag -Wshorten-64-to-32 which isn't enabled by default so maybe it shouldn't be? Thanks On 10 August 2010 15:19, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: On 11/08/2010, at 12:12 AM, steven Hooley wrote: Because CGFloat is typedef'd to float on 32bit and double on 64bit i have to swap between, eg, atan and atanf depending on my build settings. I have a framework which is intended to support 32bit and 64bit. Just use atan(). 32-bit floats are promoted to doubles silently. There is a slight performance penalty but it's absolutely tiny. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: advancementForGlyph problem
On 3 May 2010 02:00, David F. dav...@gmx.us wrote: How on earth are you determining that it looks like the advancement should only be ~23.2 ? By counting pixels. You mean, for example, the distance from the leftmost pixel of the 'A' to the leftmost pixel in the following glyph? My current thinking is that given the string 'AB' this distance would be the advance of 'A' - the x-offset of 'A' + the x-offset of 'B' + tracking + kerning +/- the inscrutable effect of hinting AB +/- the anti-aliasing of AB. OK the kerning is probably zero in this case and you could examine the font to find out. The tracking could well be zero but we don't really have a way of knowing - but assuming for now that it is zero - the effects of hinting and anti-aliasing alone would make it difficult to determine the advance by eye at 36pt, especially to a sub-pixel accuracy. How are you drawing the glyphs? Steve ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: advancementForGlyph problem
The information I am getting back from advancementForGlyph doesn't seem to be correct. Here are the glyph bounds and advancement for the capital letter 'A' in Georgia 36pt: == A == bounds x: -0.720703 bounds y: 0.00 bounds w: 25.699219 bounds h: 25.294922 advance w: 24.152344 advance h: 0.00 The problem that I am seeing is that it looks like the advancement should only be 23 (maybe ~23.2). TextEdit appears to be using an advancement of 23 and underlines and strikethroughs are being drawn 23 pixels wide. Any ideas on what I am doing/understanding wrong? The information is 'correct', ie. it is was it is - the data encoded in the font scaled to your working size. How on earth are you determining that it looks like the advancement should only be ~23.2 ? TextEdit appears to be using an advancement of 23 How have you determined this? If you have infact determined that TextEdit uses and advance of ~23.2px, what makes you think that this is more likely to be correct than the value encoded in the font, by the font designer? From your later response it seems like your question is really regarding drawing strikethroughs and underlines. If so, the strike through and underline are not part of the glyph or font - they are just a line drawn from the start point of a range of glyphs to the end point of a range of glyphs. You cannot draw them piecemeal, a glyph at a time, and expect them to perfectly match up without overlap or underlap (apologies for making up a word), as the amount that any 2 glyphs overlap is particular to those 2 glyhps. ie. The strikethrough of an 'A' followed by a 'V' would need to be a different length than that of an 'A' followed by a 'j'. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to add a DOCTYPE declaration to an NSXMLDocument?
The following code produces the equivalent XML : NSXMLDocument *myDoc = [[NSXMLDocument alloc] initWithRootElement:[NSXMLElement elementWithName:@myDocType]]; NSXMLDTD *myDTD = [[NSXMLNode alloc] initWithKind:NSXMLDTDKind]; [myDTD setName:@myDocType]; [myDoc setDTD:myDTD]; [myDoc setVersion:@1.0]; [myDoc setCharacterEncoding:@UTF-8]; [[myDoc XMLData] writeToFile:[@~/Desktop/TestXML.xml stringByExpandingTildeInPath] atomically:YES]; - Steve On 31 Mar 2010, at 09:31, cocoa-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: Sounds promising, but the document type declaration doesn't get written out to file. If I create the document using a string instead, it works: NSString *docString = [NSString stringWithFormat:@!DOCTYPE myDocTypemyDocType/myDocType]; NSXMLDocument *myDoc = [[NSXMLDocument alloc] initWithXMLString:docString options:0 error:err]; [[myDoc DTD] setName:@myDocType]; Seems equivalent to half a dozen other things I tried, but this is the only one that works. Bruce ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Best book for learning Objective c and cocoa
Depending on your level of experience with Cocoa and Objective-C, you may benefit from Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X, by Big Nerd Ranch: http://www.bignerdranch.com/book/cocoa ®_programming_for_mac®_os_x_3rd_edition -Steven On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Nikhil Khandelwal nikhil_khandel...@persistent.co.in wrote: Hi all, I am looking for books to learn Objective C and Cocoa. I have good knowledge of oo programming. Also I did a lot of work with Objective C and Cocoa using API's and reading through documentation. Please suggest some name of good books for knowing Objective C and Cocoa deeper. Thanks, Nikhil DISCLAIMER == This e-mail may contain privileged and confidential information which is the property of Persistent Systems Ltd. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, retain, copy, print, distribute or use this message. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this message. Persistent Systems Ltd. does not accept any liability for virus infected mails. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Cocoa sometimes raises minor exceptions without logging them
I usually add a breakpoint on objc_exception_throw. Not sure how much of a difference it makes... but yeah, I agree. -Steven On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Jerry Krinock je...@ieee.org wrote: Apparently, Cocoa sometimes raises minor exceptions without logging them, so it's good idea to set a breakpoing in +[NSException raise:format:arguments:] and run with breakpoints enabled once in awhile. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Cut and paste out of/ into text fields in a separate window doesn't work
When I say it isn't a native Cocoa app, I mean to say it doesn't use standard widgets. Anyone who is experienced with Safari and Finder and other native Mac apps, and tries out Firefox for Mac for the first time, will notice almost instantly that Firefox is implementing things on their own. Yes, there are benefits to writing your own controls, and going this route has its own merits. For instance, you only need to write a text field once, and it works on all platforms. But it also has drawbacks, such as *ahem* not starting out with a working Responder Chain and potentially confusing plugin authors, and possibly even newer users. -Steven On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Steven Degutis steven.degu...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience, Firefox (and thus probably other Mozilla apps) isn't even a native Cocoa app, it just pretends to be one, so I wouldn't doubt it if it doesn't even *have* a Responder Chain. I am quite certain that none of the Mozilla apps are Cocoa-native. They are all written using the Mozilla Cross-Platform Application Framework. There is a book about how to write cross-platform apps with that framework. Any cross-platform framework ultimately has to call through to platform-specific APIs, but it's likely that it does so only in a very primitive, low-level way. Firefox plugins *should* be able to handle the clipboard just like any other user interface code. But to do so, Firefox would need to provide the necessary support. There's no reason it couldn't. Either it just doesn't, or it tries to but it is buggy. Don Quixote -- Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com http://www.dulcineatech.com Dulcinea Technologies Corporation: Software of Elegance and Beauty. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Nil items in NSMutableSet
Daniel, Method swizzling is fine for debugging purposes, but should not be used in production code. This has already been said by some people who really, really know what they're talking about. And it's *very* dangerous to swizzle something on NSString. The first reason (of many) that comes to mind, is that most of Apple's own internal Objective-C frameworks are using NSStrings, in ways and situations you can't predict. So by advising someone to mess with NSString's implementation, you are advising them to potentially break their app in countless ways (possibly even data-corrupting ones) and then send that app to unsuspecting users. Not a great piece of advise, in my book. -Steven On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Daniel DeCovnick danhd...@mac.com wrote: There was a thread on this list a few days ago about effective method swizzling into Apple classes. Despite being replete with warnings about Don't use it in production code, it IS doable, and very, very cool, IMHO. -Dan On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Alejandro Rodriguez wrote: You were right, my equality is not transitive. id ob = [[objectClass alloc] initWithId:@hello]; [ob isEqual:@hello]; //returns YES [@hello isEqual:ob]; //returns NO That may very well be the problem... now... I have no idea on how I will make the second test return YES. doesn't that depend on the implementation of isEqual of the asking object in this case NSString? Have any of you had to deal with this before? I'll dive into the docs and see what details I find that might be useful. Seems we are getting somewhere cheers! Alejandro On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Clark Cox wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: Your code doesn't account for the possibility that the order of comparison might happen in the other order (i.e. [@123 isEqual: object]). I wouldn't be surprised if NSSet is assuming that equality is transitive (i.e. [a isEqual: b] == [b isEqual: a]). For reference, this property is not transitivity, the transitivity relation is: a - b ^ b - c = a - c (for some relation -) The one you're looking for is commutativity. Indeed; must have been echos of my previous life as a C++ programmer creeping into the Obj-C part of my brain (in C++, the std::set class uses less than, instead of equality, where transitivity is the important property, not commutativity). :) -- Clark S. Cox III clarkc...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/danhd123%40mac.com This email sent to danhd...@mac.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: app window that doesn't deactive the current app
Please refer to this article: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1657659/cocoa-nsstatusbar-global-hotkey =Steven On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Martin Batholdy batho...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi, I would like to have a window that pops up via a shortcut. This window should be in background and the active app shouldn't get inactive. How is that possible? I have seen that in the Clips app ( http://conceitedsoftware.com/products/clips ). thanks!___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Cut and paste out of/ into text fields in a separate window doesn't work
Not trying to be pessimistic here, just honest, but it seems like this is a problem with Mozilla's (Firefox's? Thunderbird's? which app are we talking about here?) plugin-architecture system. The shortcuts Cmd+C and Cmd+V in the Edit menu link to the First Responder, and typically any text field (NSTextField, NSSearchField, et al) which gets focused, becomes the First Responder. Thus, it should Just Work™ like you are expecting it to. However, if the host app controlling your plugin is not giving your plugin a chance to become first responder, it's most likely because said app is completely breaking the Responder Chain. In my experience, Firefox (and thus probably other Mozilla apps) isn't even a native Cocoa app, it just pretends to be one, so I wouldn't doubt it if it doesn't even *have* a Responder Chain. You may want to contact the developers of the host app to ask them what's going on, since they will have more intimate knowledge of their app's uniqueness. -Steven On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Brian Postow brian.pos...@acordex.comwrote: I have a Mozilla plugin which puts up a separate window for login information. It seems to work fine, it gets keyboard events like typing and hitting return to hit the default button. HOWEVER, it doesn't seem to get cut and paste events. When I hit Cmd-v, the edit menu flashes, but nothing happnes. Is this a problem with my responder chain? Do I have to specially tell Mozilla that I want these events? or am I likely to have some other problem that I haven't even thought of? thanks. Brian Postow Senior Software Engineer Acordex Imaging Systems ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: death in dealloc
This is almost always caused by releasing an object earlier than you expected to, and then trying to release it again later (similar to double free). Look around in your class's code for a place where you autorelease an ivar, but don't add it to a collection, or where you release an ivar but don't set it to nil afterwards. -Steven On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Stuart Malin stu...@zhameesha.com wrote: I have some code that is throwing EXC_BAD_ACCESS. It does so when an object is deallocating, in its -dealloc method on a call to [super dealloc]. The object's class's superclass is NSObject. Here's the (relevant part of the) stack trace: #0 0x7fff872e016d in _class_hasCxxStructorsNoSuper #1 0x7fff872e0741 in object_cxxDestructFromClass #2 0x7fff872e60f8 in objc_destructInstance #3 0x7fff872e06f5 in _internal_object_dispose #4 0x7fff83e0279a in -[NSObject(NSObject) dealloc] #5 0x10007b18e in -[ZPOauthParams dealloc] at ZPOauthParams.m:57 I know I must have blown something, but I have no idea what I could have done to cause this sort of problem. If anyone has seen something like this before, please let me in what direction I should look for the problem. TIA. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Bison/Yacc with Objective-C ?
Bloomin' magic! Thanks, Filip, it worketh well. Hardy souls all. Tom W. Is it possible to see an example of how this might be used? I'd like to understand Bison/Yacc better and i think an example relevant to Cocoa / Objective-C would really help. Thanks, Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WebView refresh problem
The problem you're describing isn't very clear to me. Can you be more specific as to what the unexpected result is, and what action you're taking that triggers this unexpected result? And, last but certainly not least, what is the actual code you are using to load a new page into the WebView? Thanks. -Steven On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Arun arun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All I have an application which has a single window with a webview inside it. When the application starts it starts a background thread from which i will be feeding different HTML files using performSelectorOnMainThread:. Everything works fine. The problem is when the application is launched, if i click on apple icon or the Application menu items in the Apple menu bar, when the background thread loads a different HTML page, instead of webview refresh, the new HTML is getting over lapped on the previous HTML page. How can the overlapping be avoided? Thanks Arun KA ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Is kCAOnOrderOut too good to be true?
Not yet; still asking everyone I know and hoping a Core Animation wizard comes across this thread. -Steven On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jon Buffington li...@jon.buffington.namewrote: Steven, Did you ever find a solution to the kCAOnOrderOut animation problem? I was frustrated by this problem in the past but gave up as the animation was optional. Regards, Jon On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Steven Degutis wrote: This seems to suggest that the presentation layer has something to do with solving this issue, if it can be solved at all (and I'm hopeful that it can; I doubt Apple would have created kCAOnOrderOut solely to be broken from the start, and never fix it). But from everyone I've talked to, no one has a clue how to make the animation given for the kCAOnOrderOut key actually animate visibly on screen, either before the layer has been removed from its superlayer, or afterwards, once -removeFromSuperlayer has been called. If anyone can provide a solution to actually showing the animation returned given kCAOnOrderOut, it would be appreciated. -Steven On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Kyle Sluder kyle.slu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Steven Degutis steven.degu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been reading the docs for Core Animation, specifically about layer-actions, and it mentions a constant called kCAOnOrderOut which is supposedly called when your layer is removed from its superlayer (or hidden). However, if it's removed from superlayer, the animation returned for the kCAOnOrderOut event is apparently ignored, because the layer is removed immediately, instead of when the animation finishes. The docs practically declare that this is meant for animations. So, what gives? Is this too good to be true? Do I need to use the workaround of adding the animation, and in the didStop delegate, removing the layer myself? Code would be so much cleaner if just calling -removeFromSuperlayer would invoke the animation for me and then remove it itself... Isn't this an artifact of dealing with the model layer? I would expect that as far as my code is concerned, the sublayer is removed from its parent layer immediately, because I'm only dealing with the model layer tree, not the presentation layer tree. --Kyle Sluder -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/lists%40jon.buffington.name This email sent to li...@jon.buffington.name -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Is kCAOnOrderOut too good to be true?
Hi all, I've been reading the docs for Core Animation, specifically about layer-actions, and it mentions a constant called kCAOnOrderOut which is supposedly called when your layer is removed from its superlayer (or hidden). However, if it's removed from superlayer, the animation returned for the kCAOnOrderOut event is apparently ignored, because the layer is removed immediately, instead of when the animation finishes. The docs practically declare that this is meant for animations. So, what gives? Is this too good to be true? Do I need to use the workaround of adding the animation, and in the didStop delegate, removing the layer myself? Code would be so much cleaner if just calling -removeFromSuperlayer would invoke the animation for me and then remove it itself... -Steven ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Is kCAOnOrderOut too good to be true?
This seems to suggest that the presentation layer has something to do with solving this issue, if it can be solved at all (and I'm hopeful that it can; I doubt Apple would have created kCAOnOrderOut solely to be broken from the start, and never fix it). But from everyone I've talked to, no one has a clue how to make the animation given for the kCAOnOrderOut key actually animate visibly on screen, either before the layer has been removed from its superlayer, or afterwards, once -removeFromSuperlayer has been called. If anyone can provide a solution to actually showing the animation returned given kCAOnOrderOut, it would be appreciated. -Steven On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Kyle Sluder kyle.slu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Steven Degutis steven.degu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been reading the docs for Core Animation, specifically about layer-actions, and it mentions a constant called kCAOnOrderOut which is supposedly called when your layer is removed from its superlayer (or hidden). However, if it's removed from superlayer, the animation returned for the kCAOnOrderOut event is apparently ignored, because the layer is removed immediately, instead of when the animation finishes. The docs practically declare that this is meant for animations. So, what gives? Is this too good to be true? Do I need to use the workaround of adding the animation, and in the didStop delegate, removing the layer myself? Code would be so much cleaner if just calling -removeFromSuperlayer would invoke the animation for me and then remove it itself... Isn't this an artifact of dealing with the model layer? I would expect that as far as my code is concerned, the sublayer is removed from its parent layer immediately, because I'm only dealing with the model layer tree, not the presentation layer tree. --Kyle Sluder -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Uninitialized rectangle??
Are you sure that your NSStatusBar or NSStatusItem instances are nil, and not just what's returned from -view? I see no reason that it should be nil, and no proof that it is. (To be fair, I only skimmed this mess of a thread.) -Steven On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, fabian cocoadevl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:42 AM, fabian wrote: Right. But why should it matter? The system status bar is not in the nib. Just curious about what is going on behind the scenes... The status bar is in the menu bar, and the menu bar is in the same nib as your app controller. The status bar probably initializes itself in an -awakeFromNib method. Whether that method runs before or after your -awakeFromNib method is completely unpredictable. I can see why it's a bad thing in theory, but I haven't had any problems with this approach. Are you prepared to have your app crash and burn on launch for every user that installs some upcoming OS revision (perhaps even a minor update)? I'm serious; this happens. Doing things that shouldn't work, just because they do work at the moment, is asking for trouble since the underlying behavior of the system frameworks can change in the future. (This is especially painful if you're not on the expen$ive Apple developer plans that get you access to OS betas, because that means you won't get a chance to find any of these crashes before your customers do. Instead you find yourself frantically debugging on the day the new OS comes out, while your mailbox fills up with crash reports and complaints.) Anyway, back to subject. Perhaps a better approach than using timers, guesswork and voodoo, would be to check the validity of the frame rect and, if it's zero or garbage, make my own rectangle. Um, no. Check whether the status bar is nil before you ask for its frame, instead of working around the aftermath of calling a struct accessor on nil. But doing this is still a hack, for the reason I described above. It's pretty clear that you shouldn't be doing anything with NSStatusBar in an -awakeFromNib method in the main nib. —Jens But this is not in -awakeFromNib. That's the whole problem :) It's in -applicationDidFinishLaunching. Which works great on all systems (as far as I know), except for on 10.5.8 where NSStatusBar is still nil at this point. That's what I'm trying to find a work-around for. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Uninitialized rectangle??
Right. Have you tried the solution I proposed in the /very first reply/ to this thread? -Steven On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, fabian cocoadevl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Steven Degutis steven.degu...@gmail.comwrote: Are you sure that your NSStatusBar or NSStatusItem instances are nil, and not just what's returned from -view? I see no reason that it should be nil, and no proof that it is. (To be fair, I only skimmed this mess of a thread.) -Steven No, I'm not. It just boiled down to this assumption along the way somehow. Perhaps to make the thread less messy :) But you are absolutely right: all I know for sure is that whatever is returned from [view frame] is causing the unitialized rectangle assertion failure. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, fabian cocoadevl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:42 AM, fabian wrote: Right. But why should it matter? The system status bar is not in the nib. Just curious about what is going on behind the scenes... The status bar is in the menu bar, and the menu bar is in the same nib as your app controller. The status bar probably initializes itself in an -awakeFromNib method. Whether that method runs before or after your -awakeFromNib method is completely unpredictable. I can see why it's a bad thing in theory, but I haven't had any problems with this approach. Are you prepared to have your app crash and burn on launch for every user that installs some upcoming OS revision (perhaps even a minor update)? I'm serious; this happens. Doing things that shouldn't work, just because they do work at the moment, is asking for trouble since the underlying behavior of the system frameworks can change in the future. (This is especially painful if you're not on the expen$ive Apple developer plans that get you access to OS betas, because that means you won't get a chance to find any of these crashes before your customers do. Instead you find yourself frantically debugging on the day the new OS comes out, while your mailbox fills up with crash reports and complaints.) Anyway, back to subject. Perhaps a better approach than using timers, guesswork and voodoo, would be to check the validity of the frame rect and, if it's zero or garbage, make my own rectangle. Um, no. Check whether the status bar is nil before you ask for its frame, instead of working around the aftermath of calling a struct accessor on nil. But doing this is still a hack, for the reason I described above. It's pretty clear that you shouldn't be doing anything with NSStatusBar in an -awakeFromNib method in the main nib. —Jens But this is not in -awakeFromNib. That's the whole problem :) It's in -applicationDidFinishLaunching. Which works great on all systems (as far as I know), except for on 10.5.8 where NSStatusBar is still nil at this point. That's what I'm trying to find a work-around for. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Uninitialized rectangle??
NSStatusItem's -view and -setView: methods are related to your own custom view, and have nothing to do with the view it internally uses. Thus, it initially has no view until you give it one. So, giving it a dummy view via [statusItem setView: [[[NSView alloc] init] autorelease] ] is going to allow you to access that view's -window and thus the -frame of the NSWindow. Keep in mind though that this is a hack, and also usually very unnecessary and bad and against the HIG in the first place. -Steven On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:01 PM, fabian cocoadevl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Steven Degutis steven.degu...@gmail.comwrote: Right. Have you tried the solution I proposed in the /very first reply/ to this thread? -Steven Actually, no. I don't have 10.5.8, so I would have to send it to one of the end-users to try, and I feel hesitant to bother a customer without having a clue _why_ the changes made to the code would make any difference. I did send you a reply, though, asking why you think feeding a dummy view to the status item would give better results. I'm not questioning your suggestion, I'd just like to hear the arguments for it before proceeding. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, fabian cocoadevl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Steven Degutis steven.degu...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure that your NSStatusBar or NSStatusItem instances are nil, and not just what's returned from -view? I see no reason that it should be nil, and no proof that it is. (To be fair, I only skimmed this mess of a thread.) -Steven No, I'm not. It just boiled down to this assumption along the way somehow. Perhaps to make the thread less messy :) But you are absolutely right: all I know for sure is that whatever is returned from [view frame] is causing the unitialized rectangle assertion failure. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:05 PM, fabian cocoadevl...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jens Alfke j...@mooseyard.com wrote: On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:42 AM, fabian wrote: Right. But why should it matter? The system status bar is not in the nib. Just curious about what is going on behind the scenes... The status bar is in the menu bar, and the menu bar is in the same nib as your app controller. The status bar probably initializes itself in an -awakeFromNib method. Whether that method runs before or after your -awakeFromNib method is completely unpredictable. I can see why it's a bad thing in theory, but I haven't had any problems with this approach. Are you prepared to have your app crash and burn on launch for every user that installs some upcoming OS revision (perhaps even a minor update)? I'm serious; this happens. Doing things that shouldn't work, just because they do work at the moment, is asking for trouble since the underlying behavior of the system frameworks can change in the future. (This is especially painful if you're not on the expen$ive Apple developer plans that get you access to OS betas, because that means you won't get a chance to find any of these crashes before your customers do. Instead you find yourself frantically debugging on the day the new OS comes out, while your mailbox fills up with crash reports and complaints.) Anyway, back to subject. Perhaps a better approach than using timers, guesswork and voodoo, would be to check the validity of the frame rect and, if it's zero or garbage, make my own rectangle. Um, no. Check whether the status bar is nil before you ask for its frame, instead of working around the aftermath of calling a struct accessor on nil. But doing this is still a hack, for the reason I described above. It's pretty clear that you shouldn't be doing anything with NSStatusBar in an -awakeFromNib method in the main nib. —Jens But this is not in -awakeFromNib. That's the whole problem :) It's in -applicationDidFinishLaunching. Which works great on all systems (as far as I know), except for on 10.5.8 where NSStatusBar is still nil at this point. That's what I'm trying to find a work-around for. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact
Re: Uninitialized rectangle??
In this line: NSRect frameRect = [[statusItem view] frame]; the method -view is returning nil, and thus so is -frame, which means frameRect contains garbage (or NSZeroRect if you're lucky). Create a dummy view and give it to the status item before asking for the frame. Keep in mind, you will only get a value relative to the view's superview, so that'll be useless too. -Steven On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:23 PM, fabian cocoadevl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I once noticed that this code caused an assertion failure when placed in awakeFromNib. NSStatusBar *statusBar = [NSStatusBar systemStatusBar]; statusItem = [[statusBar statusItemWithLength:26] retain]; NSRect frameRect = [[statusItem view] frame]; MyStatusItemView *theView = [[MyStatusItemView alloc] initWithFrame:frameRect]; [theView setDelegate:self]; [statusItem setView:theView]; [theView release]; I didn't think much about it then - I simply moved the code to applicationDidFinishLaunching and everything was fine. But now I'm told the app is crashing nevertheless, AFAIK under 10.5.8 only: 3/2/10 3:12:49 PM MyProcess[13261] *** Assertion failure in -[MyStatusItemView initWithFrame:], /SourceCache/AppKit/AppKit- 949.54/AppKit.subproj/NSView.m:1099 3/2/10 3:12:49 PM MyProcess[13261] Uninitialized rectangle passed to [View initWithFrame:]. 3/2/10 3:13:38 PM com.apple.launchd[115] ([0x0-0x104104].my.process[13261]) Exited abnormally: Interrupt It's definitely related to the app/nib not being up and ready to go. I'm displaying a dialog on first run in awakeFromNib. When the dialog is displayed (delaying the execution of this code), it works fine. On second launch it's a no go. How can the system status bar not be initialized at this point? It's not even part of the nib... Thanks. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: what is a bindings pattern to check for a non-empty selection?
Just wanted to update everyone on this issue; I've done some experimentation with this, and I've found that binding to selection with NSIsNotNil transformer does not reliably work, but binding to selectedobjec...@count does work. (And by work I mean be disabled when the table has no selection, and enabled when it has any selection at all.) -Steven On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Joanna Carter cocoa...@carterconsulting.org.uk wrote: Le 19 févr. 2010 à 11:02, Jean-Denis Muys a écrit : I am looking for a way to enable a button in my window only if some selection has been made in the data. Currently the data is shown in a table view and is handled through an NSArrayController. I am trying to bind the button's Enabled property to the ArrayController so that I get whether something is selected (multiple selections allowed). I bind the enabled property to the selection but using the NSIsNotNil value transformer. Joanna -- Joanna Carter Carter Consulting ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Windows and nibs and dialogs, oh my!
Few simple steps: (1) Create a subclass of NSWindowController and override -init to call super's -initWithWindowNibName:, passing something like @MyWindow (2) Create a XIB file with the filename called MyWindow (3) Change File's Owner to your recent subclass (4) Connect the -window outlet of your subclass to the NSWindow in the XIB file (5) Instantiate your subclass somewhere and either access -window directly or call -showWindow: (which is what I usually do) -Steven On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:13 PM, William Squires wsqui...@satx.rr.comwrote: Please help, I'm still a bit fuzzy on how to open a window in Cocoa/ObjC. I realize there's a correlation between a nib, the window you design(ed) in IB, and the .h/.m files for the controller class, but how do you actually USE this stuff? i.e. If I wanted to make a window in REALbasic, I would design the window's UI, put in a publicly accessible Display() method that did something like: Public Sub Display() // Setup control's states based on available info (this window's class' properties) Me.Setup() // This is a modal window to allow the player to roll a new player-character Me.ShowModal() End Sub Then, somewhere else, I would do: Dim w As wndRollNewPC Dim theNewPC As PlayerChar theNewPC = nil w = New wndRollNewPC() w.DefaultPlayerName = untitled PC w.UseDefaultRules = True w.Display() theNewPC = w.NewPC w = nil If (theNewPC = nil) Then // Player somehow aborted Exit Sub End If ... And the call w.Display() would make the window visible and frontmost (or, in Cocoa terms, it would load the nib, then - somehow - make it (the window, not the nib!) visible, and set one of the controls to be FirstResponder. It would also hook up the FilesOwner proxy object reference.) What I want to know is how to get this bit of magic to work? Am I going to have to chant arcane phrases over my keyboard while moving my mouse just so? :) This gets even more confusing on the iPhone, BTW. A compiler is a tool for turning source code into error messages; generating machine language bytes is just a fortuitous by-product! ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Forcing the package bit
I believe this can be accomplished by exporting a new UTI that describes your package type (probably by extending com.apple.package or something like that). This would be done inside your app's Info.plist file. -Steven On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: I need to write a package file that is not listed as one of my document types. How do I ensure that this will be seen as a package in the Finder? It looks to me as though some new flags were added to NSURL to cover this but the code needs to work on 10.5 or later. --Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSForegroundColorAttributeName without AppKit
NSAttributedString is part of Foundation.framework and so are all NSStrings (including literal constants like @NSColor). Thus, you can use that safely without linking against AppKit.framework; however, I advise against using string literals in place of Apple's constants, since they might change under your nose. -Steven On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM, BareFeet list.develo...@tandb.com.auwrote: Thanks Graham for your reply: I have some working code for adding attributes to a string. I'd like to modify it so it will work without needing AppKit. I can get it all going except the NSForegroundColorAttributeName constant which seems to only exist in AppKit. If you log the actual value of that constant, it's simply @NSColor. Unfortunately it seems that using the @NSColor key as part of an NSAttributedString also requires AppKit. Put another way, I can't see any way to draw multi-colored text in a wrapping text field without using AppKit. Thanks, Tom BareFeet ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Webview and dynamic content
Store them in your app's bundle. Related, if you want my 2¢, try as often as you can to avoid using a WebView. If you can replace its functionality with native Cocoa (and Touch) controls then that is the recommended development path. -Steven On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Jere Gmail zon7m...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm developing an app that relies on a webpage. This page has to load local files (json or xml) that i save on the hard drive. What's the better way to implement it. I've think two options: save the json files in the app resources folder, same way iPhoto stores the files. Or save them in the app support directory. The second way round I have to move the web to this folder in order to let javascript load the local files. Which one is better as I plan to port the app to OSX and iPhone. -- Infinity is only the beginning π ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSButton and NSEvent
First of all, you may want to look into NSMatrix to accomplish this task instead of using individual NSButtons, both for performance reasons and (more importantly) to use the Cocoa API as it is intended (this is why NSMatrix was created, so it handles this relatively well). Secondly, if you use NSMatrix, or even NSTableView (which may be a better layout in this case), you can populate the items programmatically. Thus, you can have an array of model objects representing the data, with properties such as userVisibleTitle and representedCommandLineOptionString or something to that effect (and possibly an ID property too if need be, but probably not). Then you could supply these to the views rather easily, and readily fetch and display any property for a given object. Read more about this in the MVC section of Apple's docs. Also, regarding your feature to toggle the display between power users and normal users, there's a few options. You could do this via tooltips, or you could have an option to choose to display the normal titles versus the command line options. But keep in mind, power users will probably prefer the command line anyway, usually. So I wouldn't put too much thought into this. -Steven On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Jeremy Matthews jeremymatth...@mac.comwrote: So I have a application that I am getting ready to put some finishing touches on, but there are one or two things I'd like to do differently...er, better. It is a simple tool (Cocoa Desktop app) with a slew of checkboxes (around 40 in a separate window) that act as parameters on a command. While I show the user-friendly wording yard work, behind the scenes I actually use parameters like -lawngeneral (if that checkbox is selected it does a check and provides the internal naming scheme when it builds the full command). Since the latter are part of the internal logic (and affect other systems), they cannot be changed at this time. But, I would like to be able to give those nsbuttons a second property that does not change depending on selection (so, alternateTitle would not work), just to make life easier when referencing said items. In NSMenu land, someone mentioned using setRepresentedItems, which worked great in my needs there...is there a similar feature for NSButton (specifically checkboxes)? Also, it would be nice if I could intercept an nsevent that changed their text from the user-friendly version to the internal logic titles - if only for some better understanding by power users (like, holding down the option key at any point in time). I've mucked around with some examples, but it seems like most depend on a a specific method and not silently observing in the background, like clicking on a button. How would you handle the first request, create a dictionary, or is there another method I missed? And the second, I'm not even sure.. Any ideas? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSMenuItem Action
Generally connecting them in IB works just fine. Sometimes this won't be possible, though, and you should use code to do that (like when creating items in code). But, keep in mind that the First Responder is in every NIB file, and works amazingly when you have a menu item that exists in a NIB, and know what action it sends, but do NOT know what target it sends it to until runtime. Read more about First Responder in Apple's docs, naturally. -Steven's 2¢ On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 2:40 PM, David Blanton aired...@tularosa.netwrote: What is the best practice for connecting menu items to their actions? Is it IB, is programatically? If IB what is the process? - db ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: How to get my application version from inside my code?
This is already shown in the default About box window, which is sufficient for most apps. But if you really need to have your own custom About box, you can get most of that information from -[NSBundle objectForInfoDictionaryKey:] -Steven On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Bengt Nilsson bengt.nilsso...@spray.sewrote: Hi! I need to access the bundle version of my application from inside my code to show it in the About.. box. How can I do this? BN ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: NSViewAnimation vs Distributed Notification: Bug?
Firstly, you do not need to check if tAnimation is nil, since sending a message to nil is valid in ObjC. So I would personally remove that if() and just de-indent all the code that's inside it. Secondly, I *think* what you're running into is the fact that blocking mode means the main thread blocks, and thus does not receive any distributed notifications. The second snippet of code (the one that works fine) does not animate on the main thread, thus everything works correctly. If you want to use NSViewAnimation for some reason (but I wouldn't), then you can change the mode away from blocking-mode to something more background-thread-y. -Steven On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Iceberg-Dev dev.iceb...@gmail.com wrote: [Q] Is there a known bug in NSViewAnimation on Mac OS X 10.4 when it comes to Distributed Notifications? Scenario: - If I animate a window resizing through a NSViewAnimation, some Distributed Notifications are only taken into account after I click in the window resized through a NSViewAnimation. If I animate the window with setFrame:dispplay:animate:, the problem does not occur. ---8---8---8---8---8---8---8--- // This does not work correctly tAnimationDictionary=[NSDictionary dictionaryWithObjectsAndKeys:IBwindow_,NSViewAnimationTargetKey, [NSValue valueWithRect: tNewWindowFrame], NSViewAnimationEndFrameKey, nil]; tAnimation=[[NSViewAnimation alloc] initWithViewAnimations: [NSArray arrayWithObject:tAnimationDictionary]]; if (tAnimation!=nil) { [tAnimation setAnimationBlockingMode:NSAnimationBlocking]; [tAnimation setDuration: 0.15f]; [tAnimation startAnimation]; [tAnimation autorelease]; } // This works fine [IBwindow_ setFrame:tNewWindowFrame display:YES animate:YES]; ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Setting parent window
Hi Gaurav, Welcome to Cocoa development! It's fun, and very rewarding. Regarding your question, you really will want to avoid taking Windows design patterns (for both development and user experience) into a Mac app. Not only is what you're trying to accomplish not possible, but it's a really bad user experience to have a modal window when one is not required. Please look into reading Apple's documents called the Human Interface Guidelines, your users (and fellow developers on this list) will really appreciate it. -Steven On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Gaurav Srivastava gauravwin...@gmail.comwrote: Is there any corresponding function call for ::SetParent(in Windows) in Cocoa? Basically I have a parent application from which I have to launch another application. I want the child application to open as modal within the parent application and not as a separate application. I have the window handles of both applications. I tried using [NSWindow setParentWindow] but this was not working for me. Is there any possible solution? -- Gaurav Srivastava ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Removing quit button from dock menu
Generally, Cocoa developers do not write installers, but instead use PackageMaker to install our apps for us. If it's not software you're installing then, well, I don't know what to tell you. But you still can't stop the user from quitting your app. If they really want to, they can quit it from the Dock in 2 ways (Quit or Force Quit). The recommended first step is to read the Human Interface Guidelines on what an app should and should not do. If you read and follow the HIG, your users will like you a lot better. -Steven On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 4:20 AM, yogin bhargava bhargavayo...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Thanks for your responses. The application is an installer which has to install something. And that installer should not be allowed to quit. Thanks, YOGIN On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Mark Ritchie mark.ritc...@mac.com wrote: Hi Yogin! On 22/Feb/2010, at 10:33 PM, yogin bhargava wrote: I dont want to allow the user to quit my application except from the activity monitor. Ok, I'm curious, in what circumstance would this workflow be obvious to the user of your application? I know that personally, I would be secure deleting any application which worked this way however that's just my opinion. ;-) I have removed the controls for apple+Q button and menu option. Dock item is the only thing left. And what about the other ways to terminate an application? For example, the force quit menu? It sounds me to that you might be developing an application which isn't intended to have a user interface? Is that the case? If so, then perhaps this isn't the best approach... M. -- YOGIN BHARGAVA, Flat No TF-2, Phase 4, Lotus Krest, Kundalahalli Colony, ITPL Main Road, Bangalore-560067 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Help with creating CustomViews
You're on the right track with NSViewController. Make an NSViewController and a XIB specifically for this view controller. Set the -view outlet in your NIB and make sure you name the File's Owner the same as your NSViewController subclass. Make sure your initializer mentions the name of the correct XIB it requires. Then, in the rest of your code, instantiate your NSViewController subclass and ask for its NSView via the -view accessor. Add the NSView anywhere you want. I often do this by using an NSBox and using -setContentView: -Steven On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Jean-Henri Duteau duteaudes...@gmail.comwrote: On 2010-02-19, at 6:55 AM, Steven Degutis wrote: It sounds a lot to me (and I could be wrong here) that you're trying to implement something along the lines of an ActiveX control as they were back when I used Visual Basic 5, in the sense that you want a control which is really a collection of other controls, and to be able to drag them around in IB and treat this collection as if they were a single control. That's exactly what I want - a control which can be dragged around in IB and, more importantly, created a number of times. I want View that I can place on a window (or anywhere in IB) along a view controller. I can then point the controller at the model and everything will just work. What you're doing can easily be accomplished in code, by having an NSViewController that points to your own XIB file, and by creating instances of this view controller and inserting its view into other views. This is the canonical way. Not only do you get more flexibility by doing it in code (and a lot less repetition in IB) but this method allows you to encapsulate another level of abstractness inside your NSViewController subclass, thus cleaning up your code (a lot). This is what more experienced Cocoa coders generally do instead of what you're trying to do. I'm sure that it can and that's exactly what my first try did - I have a custom NSViewController that points to my view's XIB file. I then added an instance of my view controller. The problem is that I'm stuck from there - I'm unsure how to get the view to appear where I want it to on the window. I've added a Custom View in the layout and set its class to my view's class. I attach the view to the view controller. And nothing happens and I'm unsure what to override or call to make it happen. Jean___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Removing quit button from dock menu
As I mentioned before, doing this is not supported by Apple. What kind of app are you creating, and why exactly are you under the belief that users must not be able to quit it from the Dock? -Steven On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:33 AM, yogin bhargava bhargavayo...@gmail.comwrote: I dont want to allow the user to quit my application except from the activity monitor. I have removed the controls for apple+Q button and menu option. Dock item is the only thing left. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Mark Ritchie mark.ritc...@mac.com wrote: On 21/Feb/2010, at 10:52 PM, yogin bhargava wrote: I have an application for which I have to remove quitting option. Anybody has idea how to remove it from the dock menu. What is the goal? Why would you want to do this? M. -- YOGIN BHARGAVA, Flat No TF-2, Phase 4, Lotus Krest, Kundalahalli Colony, ITPL Main Road, Bangalore-560067 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Removing quit button from dock menu
This is not supported because users should be able to quit any app they choose. However, if your app is a Kiosk app, then there are other measurements you can take to make sure it runs in Kiosk mode. Look in Apple's docs for kiosk mode for more details. -Steven On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:52 AM, yogin bhargava bhargavayo...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everyone, I have an application for which I have to remove quitting option. Anybody has idea how to remove it from the dock menu. Thanks, -- YOGIN BHARGAVA, Flat No TF-2, Phase 4, Lotus Krest, Kundalahalli Colony, ITPL Main Road, Bangalore-560067 ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: what is a bindings pattern to check for a non-empty selection?
I too have been wondering how others approach this issue. For a long time I used canRemove and eventually switched to using my own value transformer which does the heavy lifting for me. But it's quite tedious to include this value transformer in every project I write which uses bindings like this, so I've been looking for a built-in alternative. So now I'm wondering if selectedobjec...@count is a good alternative. Have yet to try it, but it looks viable. -Steven On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Ken Thomases k...@codeweavers.com wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 7:15 AM, Jerry Krinock wrote: On 2010 Feb 19, at 03:02, Jean-Denis Muys wrote: I have tried bindings to selectedObjects using the model key count, as a non zero count is obviously compatible with the BOOL that the property expects. But this doesn't work: I get an error message: Cannot create BOOL from object () of class __NSArray0 It means that it wants a BOOL but the selectedObjects you're giving it is an array. Did you try the @count KVC operator? http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/documentation/cocoa/conceptual/KeyValueCoding/Concepts/ArrayOperators.html Using the model key count to an array property (selectedObjects) builds a new array containing the results of invoking valueForKey:@count to each element of selectedObjects, which isn't what you meant. Regards, Ken ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Help with creating CustomViews
It sounds a lot to me (and I could be wrong here) that you're trying to implement something along the lines of an ActiveX control as they were back when I used Visual Basic 5, in the sense that you want a control which is really a collection of other controls, and to be able to drag them around in IB and treat this collection as if they were a single control. While it is possible using IB Plugins, that's not really what IB's plugin system was intended for. This plugin system was meant more for control that are actually custom, such as a WebView object or PDFView or IKImageView or ABPeoplePickerView. (These are all custom classes which Apple has included into IB via its own default set of plugins.) This is to say, the plugin system is intended for actual subclasses of NSView or NSControl (or NSCell) which implement very specific and unique behavior, and where it's important (or at least desired by management) to be able to set their settings in IB during design-time. What you're doing can easily be accomplished in code, by having an NSViewController that points to your own XIB file, and by creating instances of this view controller and inserting its view into other views. This is the canonical way. Not only do you get more flexibility by doing it in code (and a lot less repetition in IB) but this method allows you to encapsulate another level of abstractness inside your NSViewController subclass, thus cleaning up your code (a lot). This is what more experienced Cocoa coders generally do instead of what you're trying to do. -Steven On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Jean-Henri Duteau duteaudes...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I'm a newcomer when it comes to Cocoa development. I have some good books and they discuss the possibility of CustomViews but the views they create aren't the type that I'm interested. I've scoured the web and haven't found exactly the help I need and I've tried the trial-and-error method and it hasn't worked. What I'm trying to do is the following: -I have a number of model objects, different instances of the same class. -I want to create a CustomView that would enable the display of these objects. -The CustomView is defined in its own NIB file. It consists of a bunch of NSTextField objects laid out in NSBox. -I then want to use that CustomView all over the place. :) But for starters, I'm trying to create a window with 10 instances of my CustomView. -I want to drop the CustomView in other NIB files and set up the actions/outlets/etc. The path that I took that seemed to give the best promise was: I created a CustomViewController (subclassing NSViewController) In MyDocument.init, I init the CustomViewController with my CustomView NIB file. In MyDocument.windowControllerDidLoadNib, I call viewController.view setFrame: and then windowController.window.contentView addSubView. That manages to get my CustomView to show up in the document's window. But that was done programatically and not in IB. Then I looked at the DragAround sample code on the Apple site. This seemed to be exactly give tips for exactly what I wanted, except that the DragAroundView draws itself, there is no NIB file for the view. If someone can point me to some sample code, that would be great. In the meantime, I'll keep trying. Jean Duteau ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: alternative to NSMatrix due to cell size restriction
You may want to use an NSTableView instead, sort of along the lines of what iTunes uses in its many different kinds of table-based modes. (Especially that new one with the artwork.) -Steven On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Eric Boo eric...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have an NSView in which I'm placing an NSMatrix, with the number of columns modifiable by the user. The problem is that I need to have cells of differences sizes in the NSMatrix so perhaps NSMatrix is not suitable for me. The user will be able to drag stuff (text, images etc) into each cell, resulting in differing cell dimensions. So if NSMatrix isn't suitable because every cell is of the same size, what else can I use? Thanks! Eric ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Dynamically populate a popup menu
Check out NSPopUpButton's NSPopUpButtonWillPopUpNotification On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Peter N Lewis pe...@stairways.com.auwrote: Is there any way to dynamically populate a popup menu on the fly (as it is exposed)? For example, a popup menu that displayed the harddisk hierarchy would need this sort of thing - you wouldn't want the entire thing populated as soon as you click the popup menu, it would take forever and the user would never see most of it. Can it be done by subclassing NSMenuItem etc? The only alternative I can see would be some sort of custom control based on NSBrowser, but that would be a lot uglier for this sort of selection. Thanks, Peter. -- Keyboard Maestro 4.0.2 now released! Brand new interface! Keyboard Maestro http://www.keyboardmaestro.com/ Macros for your Mac http://www.stairways.com/ http://download.stairways.com/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Dynamically populate a popup menu
While NSMenuDelegate isn't wrong per se, I still prefer to use the NSPopUpButton's notification myself. Touching the button's internal menu seems like dipping my fingers where they don't belong. -Steven On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jean-Daniel Dupas devli...@shadowlab.orgwrote: See NSMenuDelegate protocol. There is some method to dynamically populate the menu. Le 17 févr. 2010 à 16:09, Steven Degutis a écrit : Check out NSPopUpButton's NSPopUpButtonWillPopUpNotification On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Peter N Lewis pe...@stairways.com.au wrote: Is there any way to dynamically populate a popup menu on the fly (as it is exposed)? For example, a popup menu that displayed the harddisk hierarchy would need this sort of thing - you wouldn't want the entire thing populated as soon as you click the popup menu, it would take forever and the user would never see most of it. Can it be done by subclassing NSMenuItem etc? The only alternative I can see would be some sort of custom control based on NSBrowser, but that would be a lot uglier for this sort of selection. Thanks, Peter. -- Keyboard Maestro 4.0.2 now released! Brand new interface! Keyboard Maestro http://www.keyboardmaestro.com/ Macros for your Mac http://www.stairways.com/ http://download.stairways.com/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/devlists%40shadowlab.org This email sent to devli...@shadowlab.org -- Jean-Daniel -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Proper way to initialize application support file
Apple's docs explicitly say that this folder should only contain files that are *not* necessary for the app to function normally. Files that are necessary should be inside your app bundle, usually. -Steven On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Paul Johnson p...@askerko.net wrote: I am working on a Document-based application that needs to have a certain file in ~/Library/Application Support/appname before it can do anything. It needs to be created the first time the program is run (or if it has been deleted by the user). I've created a class XXAppDelegate and declared it as implementing the NSApplicationDelegate protocol, and I defined -(void)applicationDidFinishedLaunching:(NSNotification*)aNotification. In this method I want to perform the file creation. Does this sound like I'm on the right track? (Newbie as you can tell.) I should add that the file needs to be created by accessing the internet and could take even a minute to finish, so I will no doubt have to worry about informing the user about the delay when the program is run for the first time, but before I charge in this direction I would appreciate some affirmation I'm on the right track. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Validation error after setting the value of a boolean attribute
Boolean attributes in Core Data are not actually of type BOOL but rather NSNumber. Thus, your NO value is interpreted as nil (since nil == 0 == NO) and you're setting your attribute to nil. If the attribute is required, then nil is not a valid value, and you will get a validation error. Next time, if you look at the header of your file, it tells you what types you should use as arguments to methods, and what types to expect as return values. Steven Degutis Software Engineer Big Nerd Ranch, Inc. http://www.bignerdranch.com/ On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Lynn Barton lynnbar...@mac.com wrote: Why does my Core Data app give me a validation error message, when quitting the app, if the following code is used? I am importing some legacy data to set 5 string attributes of an object, but using this code to set the one BOOL attribute. In my model, myBooleanAttribute has a default value of NO, and the legacy data does not include this attribute, so I can avoid the validation error by omitting the following code, but I would like to know why it causes errors. [myNewObject setMyBooleanAttribute: NO]; ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Executing shell script with root privilege
Essentially you need to use the Security.framework API which you were already using in the beginning. You're already heading in the right direction. If you continue to read the docs on it, you'll get your sample code working; they're pretty thorough docs I believe. -Steven On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:48 AM, cocoa learner cocoa.lear...@gmail.comwrote: Ok let me put my problem in simple words - I have a cocoa app and I want to launch a shell script which has to do some task with root privilege. How can I do it??? Regards, Cocoa.learner On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Nick Zitzmann n...@chronosnet.com wrote: On Feb 13, 2010, at 11:05 PM, cocoa learner wrote: And permission of this script is - -rwx-- 1 root wheel 536 Feb 14 10:51 /Users/test/myScript When I am executing the app launchScript is returning me TRUE but my script is not getting executed. I am totally lost, have no clue why it's happening like this. Does any body know why this script is not getting executed? Am I doing any thing wrong? Yes and yes. You set your script's permissions to 700 root/wheel, which means that you don't have permission to run the script. AEWP() executes tasks with root privileges, but it doesn't execute them _as_ root. If you need to do that, then you must use a wrapper that sets the uid to root. Check the archives for more information. It might be easier, though, to set the permissions to 755 instead, and put in a check for root privileges. And if that still doesn't work, then you might need to execute the shell as the task, and point the shell to the script, but I'm pretty sure you just have the permissions set incorrectly. Nick Zitzmann http://www.chronosnet.com/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/steven.degutis%40gmail.com This email sent to steven.degu...@gmail.com -- Steven Degutis http://www.thoughtfultree.com/ http://www.degutis.org/ ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com