Re: [Cooker] postfix, chroot jail, /etc/* updates
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 08:33, Yves Duret wrote: BTW, how many are interressed of postfix 2.0.1 rpms ? At least me. Brice
[Cooker] SUB cooker
[Cooker] Re: PATCH: devfsd init script - check for mounted devfs
Andrey Borzenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is old patch, it prevents errors when devfs is not mounted. (... * Tue Oct 08 2002 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.3.25-20mdk - init script : conditionally start devfsd if devfs is mountedr (Borzenkov Andrey) (...)
Re: [Cooker] wine update for 9.1
I will soon send an updated version to Thierry. d. On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Is an update of wine planned for 9.1? V.
[Cooker] Enterprise kernel and memory over 960Meg
I just got a new (old) machine with a P4 1.5Ghz and I bumped the memory to 1.25 Gig because 512M stick are so cheap (PC133 SD-RAM) This is the first time I've dealt with a machine with over 768M memory and I noticed that it only recognizes 960M of the 1.25Gig I know that the Enterprise kernel supports the larger memory - but I have heard that there are stability problems with it. I have seen recommendations to stick with the standard Mandrake Kernel and forget the memory over the 960M mark. Could someone explain WHY does one need the enterprise kernel (with additional security features) for large memory? Where can I get a detailed list of differences between the regular Mandrake kernel and the Enterprise version? Will the stock Mandrake kernel eventually support more memory? I know Linux handles memory better than Winblows, but WinXP has no problem seeing the 1.25G . . . . Many thanks in advance, R.Fox
Re: [Cooker] Aladdin license?
On Monday 13 January 2003 23:22, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Lundi 13 Janvier 2003 23:59, Oden Eriksson a écrit : Let me know when it's at the PLF site(s). They are on primary mirror since midday (see http://lists.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-announce/2003-January/000558.html and http://lists.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-announce/2003-January/000557.html). I think mirroring should be done during the night. Exactly who's night are we talking about? What we need is a better way to make mirrors appear to sync instantly. ie. send all updates, which are stored at the target as . files, then one quick rename/delete makes the mirror synced. -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] harddrake2 still no works :(
francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is gtk2-perl missing Gtk2::GObject::set_active ? Call trace: Gtk2::_Object::AUTOLOAD() called from /usr/sbin/harddrake2:262 i never was able to reproduce it. i told someone to remove /etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/ui for testing i haven't this file in my /etc/sysconf/harddrake2 i have only a file:/etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/previous_hw nothing more... i tryed to return to the old hardrake (9.0) and it works ...when i upgrade is still stop.. which locale do you use ? could you try LC_ALL=C LC_LANGUAGE=C harddrake2 ?
[Cooker] [Bug 807] [rpmdrake] New: Selecting Upgradable checkbox to select all such objects recenters the window
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807 Product: rpmdrake Component: rpmdrake Summary: Selecting Upgradable checkbox to select all such objects recenters the window Version: 2.0-27mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: trivial Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I stumbled upon a strange bug in rpmdrake To reproduce: -open rpmdrake -search for a package that hasnt been installed and select it -move the window to a different part of the screen -sort all packages by update availability -expand the upgradable item by clicking on that triagle thing -check the checkbox to select all upgradable packages the window will now snap back to the center of the screen... ...it doesn't happen under a lot of different circumstances, but that does it all the time. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 514] [initscripts] IP FORWARDING set up inconsistant
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED Version|6.91-10mdk |6.91-18mdk --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-12-30 22:20 --- You are right, there is a bug in the script. It will be fixed in the next release. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-01-14 09:09 --- corrected in 6.91-19mdk --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] description: It used to be ( Mandrake 8.2 and earlier) that IP forwarding was set up using FORWARD_IPV4=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network. Sudenly in 9.0 there are two places in which you must set it up, namely in /etc/sysconfig/network AND in /etc/sysctl.conf. This change is both immensely confusing, and inconsistant. The nnew sysctl.conf file is very unreadable by humans-- the old way at least meant users had a chance to understand what was happening. While it may be that there is some Drak type program somewhere which sets up both of these variables properly, I have not found it, nor is it clear as to what is happening. Why have you kept the /etc/sysconfig/network file for some of the setup variables, and moved others to a new obscure location (sysctl.conf)? I have now wasted an hour trying to figure out why ip forwarding was not being switched on, and I am sure others have the same problem. PS, this is with initscripts 6.91.10mdk, not 6.91.6mdk which is the highest number listed on your bug report page.
Re: [Cooker] Enterprise kernel and memory over 960Meg
hi: i have many problems with enterprised kernel. (highmem enabled). sometimes some kernel version maybe ok with ur machine , if u r lucky!! I just got a new (old) machine with a P4 1.5Ghz and I bumped the memory to 1.25 Gig because 512M stick are so cheap (PC133 SD-RAM) This is the first time I've dealt with a machine with over 768M memory and I noticed that it only recognizes 960M of the 1.25Gig I know that the Enterprise kernel supports the larger memory - but I have heard that there are stability problems with it. I have seen recommendations to stick with the standard Mandrake Kernel and forget the memory over the 960M mark. Could someone explain WHY does one need the enterprise kernel (with additional security features) for large memory? Where can I get a detailed list of differences between the regular Mandrake kernel and the Enterprise version? Will the stock Mandrake kernel eventually support more memory? I know Linux handles memory better than Winblows, but WinXP has no problem seeing the 1.25G . . . . Many thanks in advance, R.Fox
[Cooker] Xscreensaver keeps multible processes alive (atleast with solarwinds-module)
I noticed that my system used to be very slow. I used top-command and noticed that I had multible solarwinds processes running and they were eating all of my resouces. I am using newest uptodate cooker with gnone with XScreensaver enabled and I have selected solarwinds gl-module. Because I was using my system, the xscreensaver were stopped and therefore I think that all solarwind processes should also have been killed, which was however not the case. Here is my top-output PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ Command 3535 lamikr 19 10 2016 2016 1468 R 7.1 0.4 9:01.54 solarwinds 3515 lamikr 20 10 2308 2308 1452 R 6.7 0.4 18:59.68 solarwinds 3517 lamikr 20 10 2072 2072 1468 R 6.7 0.4 18:22.76 solarwinds 3597 lamikr 17 10 2308 2308 1452 R 6.7 0.4 1:29.33 solarwinds 3600 lamikr 17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 6.7 0.4 1:08.49 solarwinds 3603 lamikr 17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 6.7 0.4 0:49.14 solarwinds 3606 lamikr 17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 6.7 0.4 0:30.79 solarwinds 3512 lamikr 19 10 2340 2340 1452 R 6.4 0.5 20:24.38 solarwinds 3580 lamikr 17 10 2340 2340 1452 R 6.4 0.5 1:52.43 solarwinds 3538 lamikr 17 10 2340 2340 1452 R 6.1 0.5 8:26.57 solarwinds 3575 lamikr 17 10 2308 2308 1452 R 6.1 0.4 2:16.31 solarwinds 3529 lamikr 17 10 2072 2072 1468 R 5.8 0.4 10:27.01 solarwinds 3532 lamikr 17 10 2300 2300 1452 R 5.8 0.4 9:41.69 solarwinds 3540 lamikr 17 10 2016 2016 1468 R 5.8 0.4 7:51.69 solarwinds 3558 lamikr 17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 5.8 0.4 7:46.54 solarwinds 3672 lamikr 15 0 968 968 752 R 1.9 0.2 0:00.22 top 3612 lamikr 9 0 12972 12m 7024 S 1.3 2.5 0:05.57 gnome-terminal I rebooted the my computer just for safe and was able to reproduce the problem very easily. 1) Boot to gnome 2) Enable XScreensaver and select solarwinds 3) Let the screensaver start and run for a while 4) Activate computer so that xsreensaver deactivates 5) Use top and notice solarwinds processes My system is following: Mandrake cooker, kernel-2.4.21.pre2.1mdk-1-1mdk (acpi off) xscreensaver-4.06-3mdk rss_glx-0.7.0-1mdk(from contribs, I think that that includes solarwinds module) AMD K6-3 400 mhz Nvidia TNT2 I am not sure whether I should create a bug from this because the problem may as well be in the contrib-package than in the xcreensaver itself... Mika
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] freetype2-2.1.3-4mdk
Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:19 +0100, Han Boetes wrote: Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Name: freetype2 Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.1.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 4mdk Build Date: Mon Jan 13 16:20:48 2003 This time I won't be making a rogue rpm. :) BTW, the hinting enhancement from David Chester have been merged in Freetype CVS.. But this release mixes the best of both worlds. Nice rounding and no mist on straight lines. Only letters like W and y are still not perfect, but we are getting there. Only one thing: the plf package uses pattented hinting from windows which imho looks quite bad compared to this. Only now I have to override urpmi's behaviour to get the latest versions and ignore the plf package. I suppose there are people who prefer the plf way so I am afraid this is the only solution. :| They will be in Freetype 2.1.4 (I don't plan to merge them in cooker package since they may have side effects and I prefer to wait for them to be stabilized in Freetype CVS, if necessary.. Hmmm yes it would be very open source like to get all parameters that David Chester tweaked in faders so you can decide for yourself how you want your fonts antialiased. /me is daydreaming a bit. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software
Re: [Cooker] Xscreensaver keeps multible processes alive (atleast with solarwinds-module)
Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003, 10:32:29 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat: I think the problem is in rss_glx, since default GNOME Mdk screensaver use chbg with xscreensaver without any problem.. Yes, this could be the problem. Please file a bug report to the author: Tugrul Galatali tugrul at galatali.com CU -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key -- Logout Fascism! --
Re: [Cooker] Aladdin license?
Le Mardi 14 Janvier 2003 09:49, John Allen a écrit : On Monday 13 January 2003 23:22, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Lundi 13 Janvier 2003 23:59, Oden Eriksson a écrit : Let me know when it's at the PLF site(s). They are on primary mirror since midday (see http://lists.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-announce/2003-January/000558.html and http://lists.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-announce/2003-January/000557.html). I think mirroring should be done during the night. Exactly who's night are we talking about? CET (primary mirror's location) night What we need is a better way to make mirrors appear to sync instantly. ie. send all updates, which are stored at the target as . files, then one quick rename/delete makes the mirror synced. Unfortunatly, we have absolutly no control over mirrors. -- If such a program has not crashed yet, it is waiting for a critical moment before it crashes. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°6
Re: [Cooker] Aladdin license?
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 09:46, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Mardi 14 Janvier 2003 09:49, John Allen a écrit : On Monday 13 January 2003 23:22, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Lundi 13 Janvier 2003 23:59, Oden Eriksson a écrit : Let me know when it's at the PLF site(s). They are on primary mirror since midday (see http://lists.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-announce/2003-January/000558.html and http://lists.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-announce/2003-January/000557.html). I think mirroring should be done during the night. Exactly who's night are we talking about? CET (primary mirror's location) night OK What we need is a better way to make mirrors appear to sync instantly. ie. send all updates, which are stored at the target as . files, then one quick rename/delete makes the mirror synced. Unfortunatly, we have absolutly no control over mirrors. I do understand that, but a better mirroring application would be a great help. I think I will start just such an application ASAP. -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] Xscreensaver keeps multible processes alive (atleast withsolarwinds-module)
Ok, I just sent a bugreport to him. (And now this mail should come as a plain text as I disabled html-sending in my Notes...:) Mika Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14.01.2003 11:41 Please respond to cooker To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: [Cooker] Xscreensaver keeps multible processes alive (atleast with solarwinds-module) Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003, 10:32:29 Uhr MET, schrieb Frederic Crozat: I think the problem is in rss_glx, since default GNOME Mdk screensaver use chbg with xscreensaver without any problem.. Yes, this could be the problem. Please file a bug report to the author: Tugrul Galatali tugrul at galatali.com CU -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key -- Logout Fascism! --
[Cooker] OT: Notes sucks
Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003, 11:59:59 Uhr MET, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok, I just sent a bugreport to him. (And now this mail should come as a plain text as I disabled html-sending in my Notes...:) Oh, this Notes seems to be a sucking application. Recently I got a reply from someone using Notes, he quoted my entire mail including the binary attachments :-) CU -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key -- Logout Fascism! --
Re: [Cooker] Enterprise kernel and memory over 960Meg
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 03:45, Robert Fox wrote: I know that the Enterprise kernel supports the larger memory - but I have heard that there are stability problems with it. I have seen recommendations to stick with the standard Mandrake Kernel and forget the memory over the 960M mark. I have only used the enterprise kernels on my system, and have had no problems with kernel stability on my dual P-III 750 + 1024 MB machine. --C.S.
[Cooker] New rpmdrake
I like the look of the new rpmdrake, but I feel that the radio buttons 'Normal information', and 'Maximum information' should be replaced with three notebook tabs reading: 'Information', 'Files' and 'Changelog'. The relevant information should be placed in these tabs. Keep up the good work :) -- Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tangent Systems
Re: [Cooker] postfix, chroot jail, /etc/* updates
Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 09:30 schrieb Brice Figureau: On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 08:33, Yves Duret wrote: BTW, how many are interressed of postfix 2.0.1 rpms ? At least me. Brice Me too, Martin -- H E L I X Gesellschaft für Software Engineering mbH Hanauer Landstrasse 52 Telefon (069) 4789 35-30 60314 Frankfurt am Main Telefax (069) 4789 35-44 http://www.helix-gmbh.net[EMAIL PROTECTED] msg85903/pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] freetype2-2.1.3-4mdk
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:38:19 +0100, Han Boetes wrote: Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Name: freetype2 Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.1.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 4mdk Build Date: Mon Jan 13 16:20:48 2003 This time I won't be making a rogue rpm. :) BTW, the hinting enhancement from David Chester have been merged in Freetype CVS.. They will be in Freetype 2.1.4 (I don't plan to merge them in cooker package since they may have side effects and I prefer to wait for them to be stabilized in Freetype CVS, if necessary.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Problem with libXft.so.2
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:14:42 -0600, Vox wrote: --=-=-= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This time Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED]=20 becomes daring and writes: On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:02:51 +0100, Michael Braun wrote: Hi, =20 I have a problem with the newest cooker. I had updated XFree86 and KDE yesterday evening. Since I cannot start KDE nor any KDE applications. I got the following error message: =20 8 kopete: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FcInit 8 How were you able to install XFree86-libs without fontconfig ??? Uhm...I think he has the same problem as me...I get the same error on all kde apps (I don't use kde itself) and I do have fontconfig installed. [vox@isis vox]$ rpm -q fontconfig fontconfig-2.1-3mdk Try to remove all non -mdk package on your system, just to be sure you are running full cooker.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Xscreensaver keeps multible processes alive (atleast with solarwinds-module)
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:21:05 +0200, mika.laiti wrote: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00336496C2256CAE_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I noticed that my system used to be very slow. I used top-command and noticed that I had multible solarwinds processes running and they were eating all of my resouces. I am using newest uptodate cooker with gnone with XScreensaver enabled and I have selected solarwinds gl-module. Because I was using my system, the xscreensaver were stopped and therefore I think that all solarwind processes should also have been killed, which was however not the case. Here is my top-output PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ Command 3535 lamikr19 10 2016 2016 1468 R 7.1 0.4 9:01.54 solarwinds 3515 lamikr20 10 2308 2308 1452 R 6.7 0.4 18:59.68 solarwinds 3517 lamikr20 10 2072 2072 1468 R 6.7 0.4 18:22.76 solarwinds 3597 lamikr17 10 2308 2308 1452 R 6.7 0.4 1:29.33 solarwinds 3600 lamikr17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 6.7 0.4 1:08.49 solarwinds 3603 lamikr17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 6.7 0.4 0:49.14 solarwinds 3606 lamikr17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 6.7 0.4 0:30.79 solarwinds 3512 lamikr19 10 2340 2340 1452 R 6.4 0.5 20:24.38 solarwinds 3580 lamikr17 10 2340 2340 1452 R 6.4 0.5 1:52.43 solarwinds 3538 lamikr17 10 2340 2340 1452 R 6.1 0.5 8:26.57 solarwinds 3575 lamikr17 10 2308 2308 1452 R 6.1 0.4 2:16.31 solarwinds 3529 lamikr17 10 2072 2072 1468 R 5.8 0.4 10:27.01 solarwinds 3532 lamikr17 10 2300 2300 1452 R 5.8 0.4 9:41.69 solarwinds 3540 lamikr17 10 2016 2016 1468 R 5.8 0.4 7:51.69 solarwinds 3558 lamikr17 10 1996 1996 1452 R 5.8 0.4 7:46.54 solarwinds 3672 lamikr15 0 968 968 752 R 1.9 0.2 0:00.22 top 3612 lamikr 9 0 12972 12m 7024 S 1.3 2.5 0:05.57 gnome-terminal I rebooted the my computer just for safe and was able to reproduce the problem very easily. 1) Boot to gnome 2) Enable XScreensaver and select solarwinds 3) Let the screensaver start and run for a while 4) Activate computer so that xsreensaver deactivates 5) Use top and notice solarwinds processes My system is following: Mandrake cooker, kernel-2.4.21.pre2.1mdk-1-1mdk (acpi off) xscreensaver-4.06-3mdk rss_glx-0.7.0-1mdk (from contribs, I think that that includes solarwinds module) AMD K6-3 400 mhz Nvidia TNT2 I am not sure whether I should create a bug from this because the problem may as well be in the contrib-package than in the xcreensaver itself... I think the problem is in rss_glx, since default GNOME Mdk screensaver use chbg with xscreensaver without any problem.. And btw, could you refrain from posting in HTML ? Thanks :) -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 1.
Pixel wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4. Cooker uses an ext2fs which is incompatible with the 9.0 extfs. When a 9.0 partition and a cooker partition are both present on the same dev/hd and one attempts an install or reinstall of a 9.0 partition, the 9.0 installer carks it loudly, complaining about the incompatible ext2 partition. you should be able to disable this feature using tunefs and -Odir_index option Yes, tune2fs -l a 9.0 ext2 partition = Filesystem features: (none) tune2fs -l a 9.1 ext2 partition = Filesystem features: dir_index filetype sparse_super Summary: The 9.0 e2fsck -f a 9.0 ext2 partition = OK. The 9.0 e2fsck -f a 9.1 ext2 partition = e2fsck: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) (/dev/hde12) e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck! The 9.1 e2fsck -f a 9.0 ext2 partition = OK. The 9.1 e2fsck -f a 9.1 ext2 partition = OK. Unanticipated consequences: The 9.0 e2fsck cannot be used on 9.1 partitions. Cannot install/reinstall a 9.0 partition if a 9.1 partition exists on the same device. Cannot run a 9.0 partition with /etc/fstab calling for checking on the 9.1 partition if a 9.1 partition exists on the same device. Mandrake-recommended fix: ??? ??? ??? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] Enterprise kernel and memory over 960Meg
IIRC the problems were due to an error in the xfs filesystem in combination with high memory. I made a patched version which should correct it, but did not post in on mandrake club, because nobody requested/voted for it. If anyone is experiencing problems, I can put it up somewhere. (alternatively, download the 2.4.19-16.7mdk src rpm from club and change the spec so that it builds the enterprise version only and build it. Danny On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Chuck Shirley wrote: On Tuesday 14 January 2003 03:45, Robert Fox wrote: I know that the Enterprise kernel supports the larger memory - but I have heard that there are stability problems with it. I have seen recommendations to stick with the standard Mandrake Kernel and forget the memory over the 960M mark. I have only used the enterprise kernels on my system, and have had no problems with kernel stability on my dual P-III 750 + 1024 MB machine. --C.S.
Re: [Cooker] Feature Request Dumping of installation mediacontents to HDD
Le mar 14/01/2003 à 02:19, Leon Brooks a écrit : Another feature I'd like to see is offering to copy the install CDs to disk (maybe in /var/install?), set them up as (a) URPMI source(s) in place of the removable media, and go hunting for a nearby update mirror (perhaps on first reboot). Users then don't need to fiddle to get updates working, or find CDs when they want to add software from the distro. You may want to do the following : mkdir /var/install mount /mnt/cdrom cp -a /mnt/cdrom/* /var/install umount /mnt/cdrom # for each additional cdrom... mount /mnt/cdrom cp -a /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS* /var/install/Mandrake umount /mnt/cdrom # remove old entries urpmi.removemedia cdrom # add new ones urpmi.addmedia --distrib local file://var/install A reputation for staying up to date would help Mandrake. We are not up do date ? generally we are too much up to date ? François.
Re: [Cooker] Feature Request Dumping of installation media contents to HDD
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 07:00 pm, François Pons wrote: You may want to do the following : Yes, semi-automagically during install, with the users' permission. A reputation for staying up to date would help Mandrake. We are not up do date ? generally we are too much up to date ? No, a reputation for having your _users_ stay up to date. When people walk up to a Mandrake system and _expect_ it to be fully updated, that will be a financially enviable reputation. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Feature Request Dumping of installation media contents to HDD
Hi Francois, --- François Pons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mar 14/01/2003 à 02:19, Leon Brooks a écrit : Another feature I'd like to see is offering to copy the install CDs to disk (maybe in /var/install?), set them up as (a) URPMI source(s) in place of the ... You may want to do the following : mkdir /var/install mount /mnt/cdrom cp -a /mnt/cdrom/* /var/install umount /mnt/cdrom # for each additional cdrom... mount /mnt/cdrom cp -a /mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS* /var/install/Mandrake umount /mnt/cdrom # remove old entries urpmi.removemedia cdrom # add new ones urpmi.addmedia --distrib local file://var/install Yes, users who are more experienced with Linux/Mandrake can do the above steps. Imagine the usual windows convert. With so many CD's around, the new user will feel a bit uncomfortable for adding programs. He'll probably hear something like xine will play VCD's. He'll naturally try to install. The current proecedure is rpmdrake will ask for CD1 then CD2. Imagine the trouble if i've a VCD inside already This is a very real life situation for most of the desktop users whom we're targetting. Issuing all the above commands, manually will be a lot of effort for newbies/converts. Where are we going to document this things.. If including this feature into rpmdrake/Drakx involves a lot of coding, this should definitely be pushed for MDK9.2 But this is definitely a nice to have feature for newbies/converts.. BTW:WinMe does this CD copying to HD for it's users, as this was a major complaint with Win95/98. Cheers., Prabu __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
[Cooker] Re: qtdesigner
On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 22:44, Laurent Montel wrote: Le Sunday 12 January 2003 20:16, Quel Qun a écrit : Hi, hi Bugzilla died, so I report the problem here: The qt distribution contains icons for the toolbar buttons that are absent in the libqt3-devel rpm. Normal there are incorporated into qmake_image_collection.cpp and compiled with qt-designer. But they are not available anywhere... I am for example trying to set a QAction,iconSet property to tabwidget.png and there is no way I can do that if the image is not available. I am still having a lot of trouble with starting this application, by the way. It segfaults every time and I have to delete ~/.qt, loosing all the settings and history. === Laurent, Please answer my messages about this application. I am spending a lot of time trying to get it working, and it is very frustrating that you disregard cooker messages so much. Please spend at least a minute to consider these two problems: 1. The icons must be made available to the user. For example, insert a button and try to set its iconSet property to editdelete.png to get a nice red cross. This is currently not possible. 2. Qtdesigner segfaults right away if kde is installed. There seem to be some incompatibilities with the new kde widgets. The only way I found to be able to use designer was to move /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so out of the way (renaming it kdewidgets.so.sav). Of course, this disables the kde widgets, but at least designer can be started and used to create a pure qt dialog. Until, this problem is solved, there could at least be a warning in the designer wrapper script. Am I really the only one seeing this? -- Quel Qun [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: As I mentioned several times, kdevelop cannot be built without libart_lgpl2-devel. Do you think you could add this requirement in the spec file? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] Aladdin license?
John Allen wrote: I do understand that, but a better mirroring application would be a great help. I think I will start just such an application ASAP. I think you will end up reinventing rsync, no? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 1.
andre wrote: On Monday 13 January 2003 03:06, Ron Stodden wrote: 2. The following RPMs are not present in addition to those in 1 above): libtobe unicon-input FreeWnn chininput xcin ami kon xa+cv xenkb XFree86-serever-4.2.99 libijs ne Most of these are Japanes, Korean or Chinese and i would be surprised if you don't download Xfree 4 or 3.3.6 Yes, I am well aware. These give no language clue in the RPM name, so our troels... downloader is not to blame. If not downloaded that's because they are not on the server. Remember that the 9.1 beta 1 is only a single CD. Without downloading it (no intention to, sorry!) I have no idea of what subset of cooker Mandrake chose. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] Enterprise kernel and memory over 960Meg
Robert Fox wrote: I just got a new (old) machine with a P4 1.5Ghz and I bumped the memory to 1.25 Gig because 512M stick are so cheap (PC133 SD-RAM) This is the first time I've dealt with a machine with over 768M memory and I noticed that it only recognizes 960M of the 1.25Gig I know that the Enterprise kernel supports the larger memory - but I have heard that there are stability problems with it. I have seen recommendations to stick with the standard Mandrake Kernel and forget the memory over the 960M mark. Could someone explain WHY does one need the enterprise kernel (with additional security features) for large memory? Where can I get a detailed list of differences between the regular Mandrake kernel and the Enterprise version? Will the stock Mandrake kernel eventually support more memory? I know Linux handles memory better than Winblows, but WinXP has no problem seeing the 1.25G . . . . Many thanks in advance, R.Fox Hi, enterprise is not needed for higmem, I have lot of machines with 1,5-4 G RAM (mdk or rh) with custom kernels. Custom = standard distribution kernel recompiled with higmem support. Only bad thing WAS speed penalty of higmem, but with 2.4.20 is all OK (with IO patch enabled). Jiri Cerny
[Cooker] openldap-2.0.27-2mdk
Hi.
Attached is a fix for openldap-2.0.27, currently the wrong syntax is added to
the syslog config file, the fields has to separated with tab and not with
space.
(optionally rebuild it against db4 ;))
Chears.
--
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
--- openldap.spec 2002-11-04 19:43:00.0 +0100
+++ openldap.spec.oden 2003-01-14 12:37:34.0 +0100
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
%define name openldap
%define version 2.0.27
-%define release 1mdk
+%define release 2mdk
%define major 2
%define migtools_ver 40
@@ -85,7 +85,7 @@
%endif
BuildRequires: openssl-devel, perl, autoconf
#BuildRequires: libgdbm1-devel
-BuildRequires: db3-devel, libunixODBC2-devel, libltdl-devel, unixODBC-devel
+BuildRequires: libdb4.0-devel libunixODBC2-devel libltdl-devel unixODBC-devel
BuildRequires: ncurses-devel = 5.0, tcp_wrappers-devel
BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-root
Requires: libldap%{major}, shadow-utils, setup = 2.2.0-6mdk
@@ -442,7 +442,7 @@
if [ ${cntlog} -le 9 ];then
echo # added by %{name}-%{version} rpm $(date) %{_sysconfdir}/syslog.conf
- echo local${cntlog}.* /var/log/ldap/ldap.log %{_sysconfdir}/syslog.conf
+ echo -e local${cntlog}.*\t\t\t\t\t\t\t-/var/log/ldap/ldap.log %{_sysconfdir}/syslog.conf
# reset syslog daemon
if [ -f /var/lock/subsys/syslog ]; then
@@ -482,7 +482,7 @@
# talk about gdbm to ldif conversion here instead of the initscript
if ls /var/lib/ldap/*.gdbm /dev/null 21 || : ; then
echo To convert a gdbm DB to a ldif file, you can use the utility
- echo %{_sbindir}/slapcat-gdbm (actually openldap uses Berkeley DB 3.x)...
+ echo %{_sbindir}/slapcat-gdbm (actually openldap uses Berkeley DB 4.x)...
fi
pushd %{_sysconfdir}/openldap/ /dev/null
@@ -630,8 +630,11 @@
%{_libdir}/openldap/back_passwd*.so.*
%{_libdir}/openldap/back_passwd*.so
-
%changelog
+* Tue Jan 14 2003 Oden Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0.27-2mdk
+- fix added syslog entry
+- built against db4
+
* Mon Nov 4 2002 Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.0.27-1mdk
- 2.0.27
- start slurpd as user ldap, not root (re: bgmilne)
Re: [Cooker] Feature Request Dumping of installation media contents to HDD
But this is definitely a nice to have feature for newbies/converts.. BTW:WinMe does this CD copying to HD for it's users, as this was a major complaint with Win95/98. Cheers., Prabu --- and i would add since by that step we have the partitions setup we could do a copy and then do the install from the hard drive ie 1 install base system (file tree) 2 ask Would you like to copy the install files to disk? 3 later if a newbie selects a function on the what would you like to do? menu that needs an rpm pop a message This function is not currently installed please hold while i install this function
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
Christophe Combelles wrote: When trying to install with root partition = hdd10, the install fails with : Unknown device hdd10 (caller is fs:/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm:540 line 540 for ext3, and 550 for reiserfs, and maybe other similar lines for other fs. There is no error with hdd9 or lower partition. This is a very long-standing problem, much reported with no action ever taken. When it happens you must root-edit /etc/fstab and manually correct it. I think it is due to something entirely rewriting /etc/fstab and fumbling hd numbers 9 and destroying your 'pretty' columnar arrangement and line sequence. Also something rewrites /etc/lilo.conf and fumbles append statements which include two hd? = ide-scsi statements (ie you have two CDROM drives) by dropping the second one entirely. I see absolutely NO need for any OS software to rewrite these two critical files - they are user (well, rootg) specified entirely, so keep your prying fingers out, please. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
Re: [Cooker] Feature Request Dumping of installation media contentsto HDD
Leon Brooks wrote: On Tuesday 14 January 2003 07:00 pm, François Pons wrote: You may want to do the following : Yes, semi-automagically during install, with the users' permission. And/or post-install with a gui, with the ability to setup local or dhcp/pxe/ftp/nfs/http etc to make an installation souce for a whole network (incl. making a network-install bootdisk for non-pxe?). drakdeploy I think would be an appropriate name ... Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 1.
Ron Stodden wrote: Pixel wrote: you should be able to disable this feature using tunefs and -Odir_index option Yes, tune2fs -l a 9.0 ext2 partition = Filesystem features: (none) tune2fs -l a 9.1 ext2 partition = Filesystem features: dir_index filetype sparse_super Summary: The 9.0 e2fsck -f a 9.0 ext2 partition = OK. The 9.0 e2fsck -f a 9.1 ext2 partition = e2fsck: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) (/dev/hde12) e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck! The 9.1 e2fsck -f a 9.0 ext2 partition = OK. The 9.1 e2fsck -f a 9.1 ext2 partition = OK. Unanticipated consequences: The 9.0 e2fsck cannot be used on 9.1 partitions. Cannot install/reinstall a 9.0 partition if a 9.1 partition exists on the same device. Cannot run a 9.0 partition with /etc/fstab calling for checking on the 9.1 partition if a 9.1 partition exists on the same device. Mandrake-recommended fix: Boot 9.1 rescue option and e2fsck? But will this work for a 9.0/9.1b dual-boot sharing an ext2/3 partition? Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
[Cooker] [Bug 808] [Installation] New: printer installation on 9.1beta1
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808 Product: Installation Component: Installation Summary: printer installation on 9.1beta1 Version: 1.759 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] During installation local printer (and/or cups) does not install. The printer is recognized: 6 Parport0:Printer, Canon BJC-2100 when checking on another console. It fails with: cannot read printers.conf file. A second installation was ditto. --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
OK, I got it again. Attached is the report.bug It seems there is a problem in swash_fetch at /usr/bin/perl-install/devices.pm line 69 Pixel wrote: Christophe Combelles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When trying to install with root partition = hdd10, the install fails with : Unknown device hdd10 (caller is fs:/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm:540 line 540 for ext3, and 550 for reiserfs, and maybe other similar lines for other fs. this is weird, i can't reproduce this. can you give me the full error messages, ie can you mail me the report.bug? to get it: during install, when it fails, switch to console 2, put a fat floppy in floppy drive, and type bug - it will put report.bug on floppy and this file interests me :) thanks, cu Pixel. report.bug.bz2 Description: BZip2 compressed data
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 730] [XFree86] Savage driver does not work
[Bug 730] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the XFree86-4.2.99.4-0.20030110.1mdk update, the Savage driver is totally hosed now. With or without the ForceInit option you get nothing but garbage on the screen. Again switching to vesa driver is a temporary work-around. can you provide vendor and device for your video card? (see the output of lspcidrake -v | grep Card)
Re: [Cooker] [Bug 805] [drakconf] New: Keyboard access is needed
[Bug 805] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After installing the 9.1 beta, my MS Intellimouse Explorer optical mouse was inoperable. I tried to use the control center to update the mouse config, but was unable to access the icons using my keyboard. i don't know if drakconf is going to be fixed regarding keyboard access... but i'd like to fix the mouse pb! Can you tell what was wrong, what should have been done... and also send *me* /root/drakx/report.bug.gz
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
Christophe Combelles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pixel a écrit: Christophe Combelles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When trying to install with root partition = hdd10, the install fails with : Unknown device hdd10 (caller is fs:/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm:540 I could have this problem on - my real-life machine (standard IDE/UDMA on MSI K7T turbo without raid controller) :hdd10 - vmware 3.2 :sda10 I've just tried again and it did not occur again. To be able to reproduce it, I have completely deleted the vmware configuration for the virtual machine, and restarted from a blank partition table. The problem is I don't don't know how to swith to console 2 with vmware, because the Alt-Ctrl-F2 is sent to the real machine and not to vmware... maybe you can continue an installation after the error occurs? (maybe by removing the partition, or unsetting the mount-point, or ???) in that case you'll get what i want after reboot in /root/drakx/ddebug.log please! :)
[Cooker] 650 or 700 MB
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steffen Barszus wrote: On Friday 10 January 2003 17:02, Pierre Fortin wrote: 0**. ISOs created for post-standard 700MB CDs (this is like trying to write 2MB on *any* 1.44 floppy drive ever manufactured) excommunicated all users who didn't own standards-extending writers. 700MB CDs are in my area the only one you will get. It is quite complicated to become 650 MB cd-r's. Where is it written, that it is bad ? How many people have really problems with that beside you ? Isn't it enough that the club has provided 650 MB ISOs ? Who cares about the media, it's trivial in cost to the devices required to read the media. Especially consider that a user buying a boxed set (AFIAK, boxed sets were also 700MB) shouldn't be forced to buy a new CD-ROM drive just because Mandrakesoft wanted to ship one less CD. We switched to 700 MB for the 9.0 first cooker snapshot, and then we did not have real complain for the 4 betas and 2 RC published, why should we have switch back to 650 MB then? After 9.0 some person complain and I made 650 MB version for club members. Now what do you want? 650 MB, 700 MB, 680 MB? I can do whatever you want, with 650 MB you will just have 150 MB less of packages I do not want to use the free space of the third CD because this space is used in the commercial version. If I use it, then the download version will not be exactly the same as the boxed version, and could lead to problems such as what we had in 8.2.
Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.
On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 11:01, Luca Olivetti wrote: Well, I don't think that an install only, no upgrade possible policy is acceptable. So far you're the only one that has presented install only as an official policy. My suggestion was to present a base case for comparison against upgrades. So I agree; your presentation is unacceptable. An upgrade should work as well as a new install. Should and does are two different things. Hopefully you're not right: it seems that urpmi is approaching apt in functionality, making operations like apt-get --dist-upgrade possible (though it didn't work for me when I tested debian). Approaching implies that the actual destination has not been arrived at yet. Plus possible and probable are distinctions that need to be made when comparing upgrade and install. A clean install is needed when you are evaluating an upgrade; not just for comparisons, but to isolate problems. I don't know of anybody that recommends an upgrade style distro transition. I think you should install 9.0 from scratch, if you haven't already. I think that it was windows you had to reinstall from scratch from time to time to keep it working, not Linux. Which has absolutely no relation to the facts with regard to Mandrake upgrade. Those of us that need a good clean working production machine in the present time install fresh and migrate the data afterwards, if you are on 8.2 or 9.0 or anything prior. This might change in the future but for right now that's the way to get consistent results. It's also the way to have something to compare an upgrade to if you are on the cooker list and looking to troubleshoot problems. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°°
Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.
On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 10:56, Pierre Fortin wrote: Respectfully, then WHY did Mdk add the 3rd option (2nd upgrade method) -- if upgrades are so bad, Mdk should have removed the existing one, not added a 2nd one... You misunderstand. The objective is not to eliminate or deprecate upgrades; the objective is to get a base case for comparison; and in so doing, perhaps something that works better, as a side effect. Format your partitions and reinstall 9.0 pristine. Then reevaluate. I don't see how this will help: - ohphone/openh323 is not compiled properly -- the developer tried to blame me initially. - CD is a supermount issue; happens on pristine installs too - sound has been a problem for a long time -- threads galore on that - ~/.kde is a known issue even on pristine installs - CUPS problems are a nearly daily thread on cooker/expert Does anyone have a tool to compare a pristine install to an upgrade? That would provide some useful information compared to the unscientific do a pristine install approach. If upgrades are a problem, pristine installs over them won't help get to the bottom of the problem(s)... Hah! Unscientific, eh? Why would you try to troubleshoot a problematic upgrade without installing a clean 9.1 beta in parallel (in another partiton on the same hardware) to provide a base case for comparison purposes? The reason for a Cooker mailing list subscription is mainly to TEST the beta's. That being the case, and you having problems, then you need to be comparing upgrades to clean installs. It is very unsmart evaluation procedure to compare a problematic upgrade to another problematic upgrade, especially if they are the same upgrade. You always need a base case; in science we call that the control. Therefore you need to have two hard drive areas available on the same hardware to install 9.1 to in order to make comparisons, if indeed you are evaluating upgrade/install or troubleshooting the upgrade functions of cooker. That's just common sense. Besides, isn't cooker an upgrade system; I don't see much do a pristine cooker install being recommended -- though I may be missing those. You've just seen one; and the reason I recommended it was not so that you could have a production quality system; since we are dealing with a beta and the entire thrust of the cooker list discussion is to locate problems; therefore if you are evaluating an upgrade then you need a base case to compare against, otherwise your results are tainted by contamination from the previous install. (and lack of a control) If there is no difference, then *fine*; that means you have eliminated previous distro contamination as a possiblility. That's one advantage of the control case -- finding out where the the problems are NOT. By installing fresh you also isolate problems that are possibly inherent in the installation routine, but that may not show up in the upgrade procedure. We won't fix the problems if we keep hiding them, or running from them... Very true; and we will never fix anything at all without some modicum of troubleshooting skill. The gist of this thread is that we need Mdk to work on reliability and stability more than eye candy... Yes, and once again that requires proper troubleshooting skills. I'm about to hammer on WalMart for the lack of support from their supplier (Microtel) of Linux systems... The open source world is struggling right now to be profitable and open source at the same time. A better expenditure of time and energy would probably be in fixing cooker problems; or reporting them. If WalMart gets too much flak about their Linux distributors, they could possibly cease distribution altogether and go back to winblows only. If Linux distros and suppliers don't care about those things that got Linux where it is, then the movement is doomed, and I won't stand by and let it happen if I can help it. To a certain degree I agree; we probably just differ on the timeframe. I just don't believe in spanking the baby. More importantly I don't think that as the movement (and companies) get started that there is going to be a wealth of resources to get worldwide support done. After Linux becomes a reknowned and profitable business venture, these startup firms will probably be able to have the resources to provide support. For now I don't think that they do, and as a result the onus of the support burden probably will have to be taken up by the Mandrake/Linux community. That can be our contribution to helping Linux businesses get off the ground with minimum resources. --LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°°
Re: [Cooker] Feature Request Dumping of installation media contents to HDD
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 07:56 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: And/or post-install with a gui, with the ability to setup local or dhcp/pxe/ftp/nfs/http etc to make an installation souce for a whole network (incl. making a network-install bootdisk for non-pxe?). drakdeploy I think would be an appropriate name ... Excellent name, excellent project but let's aim for the easy-to-achieve first, aim to get it into 9.1 proper. Once the RPMs (and maybe other install files) are in a well-known place it's a simple enough operation to make them available via FTP, HTTP, NFS, SMB, Coda, name it. The GUI tool to do this configuration can come as an update, if need be, although as long as you shared them ro by default I see no problem with including them in the default configurations for most of those services. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] utf8 utf-8 unicode
Does wxWindows in cvs now support unicode ?? Austin Acton wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 06:06, Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN) wrote: For which version can we expect to be able to have utf-8 as default encoding ? (like rh8) I know this causes some problems for example for wxGTK apps like Audacity, but it must be possible to start these apps with custom i18n settings maybe ? I've been urging the folks at Audacity to recode with unicode support. It's not that hard, but they haven't given me a firm answer yet. As of now, audacity cvs won't even build on wxWindows 2.4, as we enable unicode by default. Austin
[Cooker] gdm xnest not working
Hi chefs de la cuisine, using the most current gdm and X stuff from cooker I have some troubles with the gdmflexiserver, which allows to login as another user without logging out from the current session. Each time I use the command, the screen flickers and I end up with a screen full of garbage. The workaround is to switch to a non gfx-console then (ctrl-alt-f1), then back to console _8_ (where the new login screen resides) and now I can login as a new user. maybe this is nvidia-related, I'm using their most recent driver (4191) for my tnt2-card. udo
Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't care until 3 weeks ago when I got to this machine which gave problems. If a potential windows switched had tried, they would have given up, and probably not tried again. The problem is that even though most of the CD could be read on the machine, about 15 packages on the 1st CD could not be installed, and this prevented the whole distro from installing. This would be fine on a demo cd from a mag, or from a 3rd-party software (although you would dump on their support) since the act of trying it doesn't render your existing installation useless. I won't post any more on this thread (have probably posted to much already), but if Mandrakesoft ships 700MB ISOs for 9.1, at least one of the machines I have installed Mandrake on for people will no longer run Mandrake, and if I have to say Here try this, it should work, but if it doesn't then I will have to come and help you instead of Here try this, you will get a working dual-boot installation, phone me if you have problems, why should I not rather reccomend another distro with more confidence. And if I support another distro, why should I contribute to packaging samba and my contrib packages, and packaging for the MandrakeClub? Club members (existing customers) have voted on it, and the 650MB ISO image entry in the new voting for 9.1 RPMS has received a number of votes. Mandrake, the ball is in your park. Well, lets do it, 650 MB isos.
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 1.
Buchan Milne wrote: Boot 9.1 rescue option and e2fsck? But will this work for a 9.0/9.1b dual-boot sharing an ext2/3 partition? I can't get my mind around that!Wot, a 9.0 and a 9.1 on the SAME partition? Ne c'est pas possible (I hope). If you meant the same DRIVE and both ext2/3, no they cannot coexist out of the box without you do some fiddling. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/
[Cooker] New opwnssh needed.
Hi, Please disregard if it's down the pipe, but openssh needs to be rebuilt against the last openssl version: $ ssh -V OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 90608f, you have 90700f $ rpm -q openssh openssl openssh-3.5p1-3mdk openssl-0.9.7-1mdk Cheers, -- Quel Qun [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] 650 or 700 MB
Warly wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We switched to 700 MB for the 9.0 first cooker snapshot, and then we did not have real complain for the 4 betas and 2 RC published, why should we have switch back to 650 MB then? AFAIK, most problems like this will appear on older machines, which probably don't get used for beta-testing. I didn't think this was a problem, since the two machines I tested betas/rcs on are ok, and it's only now that I am upgrading some older machines that I have seen this. After 9.0 some person complain and I made 650 MB version for club members. Thanks, I think a lot of people appreciated it, but it doesn't help everyone. Downloads from non-local (local being ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/iso-images/mandrake, which is free) cost us $0.15/MB*2GB=$300, or have to try over weekends at 28-56k :-(. Now what do you want? 650 MB, 700 MB, 680 MB? Never had a problem with a 650MB ISO. I can do whatever you want, with 650 MB you will just have 150 MB less of packages Debateable ... I do not want to use the free space of the third CD because this space is used in the commercial version. If I use it, then the download version will not be exactly the same as the boxed version, and could lead to problems such as what we had in 8.2. That's if you limit to 3 CDs for the boxed set. If you do something like this: -Use GPL CDs for boxed sets (yes, include hdlists for the commercial CD) -Make the commercial CD the 4th Then: -you know that the GPL CDs and the first 3 CDs of the boxed set (at least standard) are identical, this may help pressing? -You can sell a commerial-only CD for $10 which has NVidia drivers etc so people can use their GPL CDs and still get the commercial stuff. -You can include updates (of hslists will not be available at install time, but the updates section at the end of the install could support this?) that are available when the commercial CDs get pressed. Then you can probably justify increasing the cost of Standard by a few $ to pay for the extra CD. But, you may want to see how many MandrakeClub members voted for 650MB ISOs, as I may just be exaggerating the urgency of this due to the frustration at how hard a simple thing like this makes an installation, which we know should normally be flawless. Thanks for looking at this, Regards, Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Aironet Driver status for 9.1 ?
On Monday 13 January 2003 09:45 pm, Dan Scott wrote: To ensure the problem is tracked and noted, I've opened bug 802 at https://qa.mandrakesoft.com. Thanks. It seems simple enough, its just a matter of making sure it happens along with everything else going on Dan On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 14:53, Jeremy wrote: Just wondering the the problem found with the aironet drivers is going to be fixed in the 9.1 kernel ?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] freetype2-2.1.3-4mdk
Le Mardi 14 Janvier 2003 10:40, Han Boetes a écrit : BTW, the hinting enhancement from David Chester have been merged in Freetype CVS.. But this release mixes the best of both worlds. Nice rounding and no mist on straight lines. Only letters like W and y are still not perfect, but we are getting there. Only one thing: the plf package uses pattented hinting from windows which imho looks quite bad compared to this. Only now I have to override urpmi's behaviour to get the latest versions and ignore the plf package. I suppose there are people who prefer the plf way so I am afraid this is the only solution. :| I'd like to have other people feedback on this point. If everyone agrees, the plf package could be dropped. -- Disks are always full. It is futile to try to get more disk space. Data expands to fill any void. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n°4
[Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : / appears twice
During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a mountpoint for a partition, the / appears twice in the list of choices.
Re: [Cooker] Enlightenment-1.7 packaging
roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Willing to volunteer to start packing this desktop into SRPM. The only problem is trying to get a cvs snapshot to build without errors. ~2 mos ago, evas was being a real pain in the arse when trying to get apps that depend on it to build properly. Traced everything back to evas from what I recall. Since then I have been monitoring the cvs commits (for the past 2 mos) and looks like patches are being applied every other day. I may start to try to build this again. The only problem is trying to aquire a *good* cvs snapshot that actually builds without problems!!! (this means, getting all the evolution-1.7 libs and extra applications to build without problems). Yea. ditto to what somebody else stated on the voting system, Evolution-1.7 *looks* really nice and impliments some really new ideas. (On a side note, the only reason i use evolution-1.6.x is because it's the only desktop that has a good mouse navigation between virtual desktops..other then this, i usually rely on console, .xsession/.xinit, and hotkeys to start apps.) What do you talk about, evolution or enlightenment?
Re: [Cooker] harddrake2 still no works :(
Thierry Vignaud wrote: francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is gtk2-perl missing Gtk2::GObject::set_active ? Call trace: Gtk2::_Object::AUTOLOAD() called from /usr/sbin/harddrake2:262 i never was able to reproduce it. i told someone to remove /etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/ui for testing i haven't this file in my /etc/sysconf/harddrake2 i have only a file:/etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/previous_hw nothing more... i tryed to return to the old hardrake (9.0) and it works ...when i upgrade is still stop.. which locale do you use ? could you try LC_ALL=C LC_LANGUAGE=C harddrake2 ? works! [root@vete vete]# LC_ALL=C LC_LANGUAGE=C harddrake2 bash: LC_ALL=C LC_LANGUAGE=C harddrake2: command not found [root@vete vete]# LC_ALL=C LC_LANGUAGE=C harddrake2 TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff TODO: XSetInputFocus if force_focus TODO: ensure focus stuff [root@vete vete]# i am italian so locale it [root@vete vete]# locale LANG=it_IT LC_CTYPE=it_IT LC_NUMERIC=it_IT LC_TIME=it_IT LC_COLLATE=it_IT LC_MONETARY=it_IT LC_MESSAGES=it_IT LC_PAPER=it_IT LC_NAME=it_IT LC_ADDRESS=it_IT LC_TELEPHONE=it_IT LC_MEASUREMENT=it_IT LC_IDENTIFICATION=it_IT LC_ALL= is it enough? thanks francesco
Re: [Cooker] drakx back bug
The bad behaviour is for almost every back button. For example, when the licence must be accepted, if you choose don't accept then hit the back button, drakX asks to confirm that we do not accept the licence, instead of going back to the previous step. Pixel wrote: Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just tried to install cooker on my laptop using drakx. When I got to the are you sure you want to install these servers? page, I hit back, but it didn't go back at all; it went on to start installing the packages. Sorry I didn't get to test the back option at other stages of the install... yeah, Back often means Cancel (since it was mainly a rename from one to the other) i must take care of this...
Re: [Cooker] Problem with libXft.so.2
On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 18:14, Vox wrote: This time Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:02:51 +0100, Michael Braun wrote: Hi, I have a problem with the newest cooker. I had updated XFree86 and KDE yesterday evening. Since I cannot start KDE nor any KDE applications. I got the following error message: 8 kopete: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXft.so.2: undefined symbol: FcInit 8 How were you able to install XFree86-libs without fontconfig ??? Uhm...I think he has the same problem as me...I get the same error on all kde apps (I don't use kde itself) and I do have fontconfig installed. [vox@isis vox]$ rpm -q fontconfig fontconfig-2.1-3mdk Vox I had this same problem. It cropped up once Xft was moved to Xfree86's control. Like Frederic said, it's probably due to an old non-mdk Xft installation. Make sure you remove all non-mdk packages that might be affecting this. Next, make sure you have the libXft in the proper new location (provided by Xfree86-libs): /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.2 Your error message is pointing to /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 which is no longer valid anymore (as far as I know). Once you remove the non-mdk packages, this version of the library should disappear. If not, delete it. Now, rerun ldconfig for good measure. That worked for me. Jim -- Jim Sproull [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 1.
Ron Stodden wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: Boot 9.1 rescue option and e2fsck? But will this work for a 9.0/9.1b dual-boot sharing an ext2/3 partition? I can't get my mind around that!Wot, a 9.0 and a 9.1 on the SAME partition? Ne c'est pas possible (I hope). No, I wasn't proposing this, which I think is impossible ... If you meant the same DRIVE and both ext2/3, no they cannot coexist out of the box without you do some fiddling. Shared /home on ext3. I guess if I'm going to beta, I will have to fiddle ... Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] freetype2-2.1.3-4mdk
Guillaume Rousse wrote: Le Mardi 14 Janvier 2003 10:40, Han Boetes a écrit : I'd like to have other people feedback on this point. If everyone agrees, the plf package could be dropped. For =9.0 yes. -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Prepare for the onslaught.
On 14 Jan 2003 06:04:19 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2003-01-11 at 10:56, Pierre Fortin wrote: Respectfully, then WHY did Mdk add the 3rd option (2nd upgrade method) -- if upgrades are so bad, Mdk should have removed the existing one, not added a 2nd one... You misunderstand. The objective is not to eliminate or deprecate upgrades; the objective is to get a base case for comparison; and in so doing, perhaps something that works better, as a side effect. Lyvin, you normally have quite clear responses... can you translate this one for me... my point is that there should be no reason for anyone saying but you should do an install [if you want' stability/reliability] -- I can't quite grok what you're saying.. Like this: Format your partitions and reinstall 9.0 pristine. Then reevaluate. I don't see how this will help: - ohphone/openh323 is not compiled properly -- the developer tried to blame me initially. - CD is a supermount issue; happens on pristine installs too - sound has been a problem for a long time -- threads galore on that - ~/.kde is a known issue even on pristine installs - CUPS problems are a nearly daily thread on cooker/expert Does anyone have a tool to compare a pristine install to an upgrade? That would provide some useful information compared to the unscientific do a pristine install approach. If upgrades are a problem, pristine installs over them won't help get to the bottom of the problem(s)... Hah! Unscientific, eh? Why would you try to troubleshoot a problematic upgrade without installing a clean 9.1 beta in parallel (in another partiton on the same hardware) to provide a base case for comparison purposes? The reason for a Cooker mailing list subscription is mainly to TEST the beta's. That being the case, and you having problems, then you need to be comparing upgrades to clean installs. It is very unsmart evaluation procedure to compare a problematic upgrade to another problematic upgrade, especially if they are the same upgrade. You always need a base case; in science we call that the control. Therefore you need to have two hard drive areas available on the same hardware to install 9.1 to in order to make comparisons, if indeed you are evaluating upgrade/install or troubleshooting the upgrade functions of cooker. That's just common sense. Ummm maybe you misses the point that this is on an IBM ThinkPad A20m -- there are NO differences between Joe's A20m and mine (except that my memory is maxed out) -- do you know where I can get alternate hardware for this box? So, are you saying that given identical hardware, there can't be a base case somewhere for all A20m users to compare to? And yes, I know that we can install different packages; or are you also saying that installing SuperFOO negates the possibility of a base case? It's disconcerting to hear on one hand that Linux allows modular approaches, and on the other, that Mandrake requires everything to be a single, unseparable entity... Besides, isn't cooker an upgrade system; I don't see much do a pristine cooker install being recommended -- though I may be missing those. You've just seen one; and the reason I recommended it was not so that you could have a production quality system; since we are dealing with a beta and the entire thrust of the cooker list discussion is to locate problems; therefore if you are evaluating an upgrade then you need a base case to compare against, otherwise your results are tainted by contamination from the previous install. (and lack of a control) and if these contaminations are always hidden by installs, how will the upgrade process ever get fixed??? If there is no difference, then *fine*; that means you have eliminated previous distro contamination as a possiblility. That's one advantage of the control case -- finding out where the the problems are NOT. But... as I've been saying for many years, as a result of years of experience trouble shooting: Until you've found *and* fixed a problem, you can NOT discount *any* possibility; what you gratuitously discount will likely be the source of the problem(s). By installing fresh you also isolate problems that are possibly inherent in the installation routine, but that may not show up in the upgrade procedure. Disagree... you just hide/mask the problems -- besides, if there isn't enough disk space to do paralle installs, just how is one to compare...? Even if there is space, what tools exist to help narrow down possible sources of problems? We won't fix the problems if we keep hiding them, or running from them... Very true; and we will never fix anything at all without some modicum of troubleshooting skill. Agreed. The gist of this thread is that we need Mdk to work on reliability and stability more than eye candy... Yes, and once again that requires proper troubleshooting skills. proper IMO is the
Re: [Cooker] postfix, chroot jail, /etc/* updates
Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 09:30 schrieb Brice Figureau: On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 08:33, Yves Duret wrote: BTW, how many are interressed of postfix 2.0.1 rpms ? At least me. Brice Me too, + at least 44 MandrakeClub members ... Actually, the original requester wanted postfix2+spamassassin+amavisd-new+clamav+cyrus-imapd (of course we have clamav and spamassassin in contrib AFIAK). Will take a look at amavisd-new soon. Buchan -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, I got it again. Attached is the report.bug It seems there is a problem in swash_fetch at /usr/bin/perl-install/devices.pm line 69 yes, pb reproduced :) now trying to fix... thanks!
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christophe Combelles wrote: When trying to install with root partition = hdd10, the install fails with : Unknown device hdd10 (caller is fs:/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm:540 line 540 for ext3, and 550 for reiserfs, and maybe other similar lines for other fs. There is no error with hdd9 or lower partition. This is a very long-standing problem, much reported with no action ever taken. When it happens you must root-edit /etc/fstab and manually correct it. I think it is due to something entirely rewriting /etc/fstab and fumbling hd numbers 9 and destroying your 'pretty' columnar arrangement and line sequence. there's no way you're talking about the same pb ;p Also something rewrites /etc/lilo.conf and fumbles append statements which include two hd? = ide-scsi statements (ie you have two CDROM drives) by dropping the second one entirely. please give me /root/drakx/report.bug.gz
[Cooker] 9.1b1 install : keyboard not asked
After choosing french for install, the keyboard type is not asked. However, if I choose french UTF8, the keyboard type is asked.
Re: [Cooker] install : mountpoint choice : / appears twice
Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: During install, while creating the partitions, when I want to choose a mountpoint for a partition, the / appears twice in the list of choices. weird, i don't have this...
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Combelles, Christophe (MED, ALTEN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, I got it again. Attached is the report.bug It seems there is a problem in swash_fetch at /usr/bin/perl-install/devices.pm line 69 yes, pb reproduced :) now trying to fix... fixed! perl wanted /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/unicore/To/Fold.pl and didn't like not having it :)
Re: [Cooker] New rpmdrake
Yes! Thanks for reminding him Chris. --- Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the look of the new rpmdrake, but I feel that the radio buttons 'Normal information', and 'Maximum information' should be replaced with three notebook tabs reading: 'Information', 'Files' and 'Changelog'. The relevant information should be placed in these tabs. Keep up the good work :) -- Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tangent Systems __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
--- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Name: Geramik
Version : 0.17
* Tue Jan 14 2003 Frederic Crozat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.17-2mdk
- Drop the gtkrc (un)installation stuff in
%post/%postun, this is completely broken..
- Use correct name for gtk+ 2.0 rc file (fix use in
GNOME theme manager)
Gah!!! You destroyed it! All that post/postun stuff
was heavily tested and works perfectly. All bugs
reported were squashed. Expect complaints now.
Would you mind explaning all of the below anyway?
Geramik.spec changed
--- Geramik-0.17-1mdk.src.rpm/Geramik.spec
2003-01-14 10:45:25.0 +0100
+++ Geramik-0.17-2mdk.src.rpm/Geramik.spec
2003-01-14 10:45:25.0 +0100
@@ -23,49 +23,35 @@
%setup -q
%build
-%configure
+%configure2_5x
%make
%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-%makeinstall
+%makeinstall_std
rm -f
${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}%{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/README.html
-%post
-if [ $1 != 2 ]; then
- if [ ! -f /etc/gtk/gtkrc ]; then
- ln -s %{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk/gtkrc
/etc/gtk/gtkrc
- fi
- if [ ! -f /etc/gtk/gtkrc-2.0 ]; then
- ln -s
%{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk-2.0/gtkrc-2.0
/etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
- fi
-fi
+mv
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk-2.0/gtkrc-2.0
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
-%preun
-if [ $1 == 0 ]; then
-if grep %{name} /etc/gtk/gtkrc /dev/null
21 ;then
-rm -f /etc/gtk/gtkrc
-fi
- if grep %{name} /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc /dev/null
21 ;then
- rm -f /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
- fi
-fi
+#remove unpackages files
+rm -f
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gtk/themes/engines/*.la \
+ $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_libdir}/gtk-2.0/*/engines/*.la
%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%files
%defattr(-,root,root)
-%dir %{_datadir}/themes/Geramik
-%dir %{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk
-%dir %{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk-2.0
-%{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk/*
-%{_datadir}/themes/Geramik/gtk-2.0/*
-%{_libdir}/gtk/themes/engines/libqtpixmap.*
-%{_libdir}/gtk-2.0/*/engines/libqtpixmap2.*
+%{_datadir}/themes/*
+%{_libdir}/gtk/themes/engines/libqtpixmap.so
+%{_libdir}/gtk-2.0/*/engines/libqtpixmap2.so
%doc AUTHORS ChangeLog COPYING README TODO
geramik/README.html
%changelog
+* Tue Jan 14 2003 Frederic Crozat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.17-2mdk
+- Drop the gtkrc (un)installation stuff in
%post/%postun, this is completely broken..
+- Use correct name for gtk+ 2.0 rc file (fix use in
GNOME theme manager)
+
* Fri Jan 03 2003 Thierry Vignaud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.17-1mdk
- new release
- rebuild for new gtk+-2.2.0
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Re: [Cooker] 650 or 700 MB
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 09:03 pm, Warly wrote: I can do whatever you want, with 650 MB you will just have 150 MB less of packages I do not want to use the free space of the third CD because this space is used in the commercial version. If I use it, then the download version will not be exactly the same as the boxed version, and could lead to problems such as what we had in 8.2. What sort of problems? If the commercial version has 3 CDs, would there be room on the other CDs for (most of) the stuff currently stored on the 3rd download CD to be spread? Cheers; Leon
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] module-init-tools-0.9.7-4mdk
Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003, 14:16:01 Uhr MET, schrieb Chmouel Boudjnah: * Tue Jan 14 2003 Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9.7-4mdk - Add modules.conf as noreplace config file. +%config(noreplace) /etc/modprobe.conf This changelog entry is wrong, it must read: - Add modprobe.conf as noreplace config file -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key -- Logout Fascism! --
Re: [Cooker] postfix, chroot jail, /etc/* updates
tisdagen den 14 januari 2003 14.17 skrev Buchan Milne: Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 09:30 schrieb Brice Figureau: On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 08:33, Yves Duret wrote: BTW, how many are interressed of postfix 2.0.1 rpms ? At least me. Brice Me too, + at least 44 MandrakeClub members ... Actually, the original requester wanted postfix2+spamassassin+amavisd-new+clamav+cyrus-imapd (of course we have clamav and spamassassin in contrib AFIAK). Will take a look at amavisd-new soon. Buchan (apache2 related ;)) This one would be pretty cool to run against clamd: http://www.willbe6.org/security/mod_vscan/ But..., someone needs to add code for that ;) -- Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT.com
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
Yeah, I've had problems with it rewriting /etc/hosts before also (and changing the order!!) --- Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a very long-standing problem, much reported with no action ever taken. When it happens you must root-edit /etc/fstab and manually correct it. I think it is due to something entirely rewriting /etc/fstab and fumbling hd numbers 9 and destroying your 'pretty' columnar arrangement and line sequence. Also something rewrites /etc/lilo.conf and fumbles append statements which include two hd? = ide-scsi statements (ie you have two CDROM drives) by dropping the second one entirely. I see absolutely NO need for any OS software to rewrite these two critical files - they are user (well, rootg) specified entirely, so keep your prying fingers out, please. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] 20030106 updates now available for Fastest Mandrake downloader (English-only) from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] harddrake2 still no works :(
francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: which locale do you use ? could you try LC_ALL=C LC_LANGUAGE=C harddrake2 ? works! (...) i am italian so locale it i look at the italian translation. it's obviously broken. i mark a menu path (such as /File/Save as/) to be translatable. the italian translator remove all slashes from its translation with no second though. thus, when i acess menu path corresponding to an option to know whether eg if autodetecting printers option is checked or not, i got a an italian string which is not a menu path so gtk+2 do not return me a valid gtk widget when i pass it the wrong italian menu path. so : - either you want to contribute a fixed translations (gi/perl-install/share/po/it.po in cvs or through the i18n section of http://mandrakelinux.com) - either pablo get the italian translation volunters to fix the it translations
Re: [Cooker] klama inaccessible by ssh?
Am Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003, 15:40:47 Uhr MET, schrieb Buchan Milne: Have an updated mysqlcc srpm for contrib, but (using katu just to ensure it's not due to local firewalls, though it normally works from my box): [bgmilne@katu bgmilne]$ ssh compil.mandrake.org ssh: connect to address 212.43.244.18 port 22: Connection refused I can confirm this, good thing I'm still logged in :-) -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key -- Logout Fascism! --
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] module-init-tools-0.9.7-4mdk
Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This changelog entry is wrong, it must read: - Add modprobe.conf as noreplace config file yep lapsus, sorry.
Re: [Cooker] klama inaccessible by ssh?
Sorry, I just saw that it's my fault. I've updated the libopenssl0-devel package to rebuild openssh package, but I forgot that this would lock everyone out :-( Warly, can you please downgrade the openssl packages on klama? -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock http://wwwtec.informatik.uni-rostock.de/~waschk/waschk.asc for PGP key -- Logout Fascism! --
[Cooker] openssh client needs rebuild against new openssl
$ssh OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 90608f, you have 90700f
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] freetype2-2.1.3-4mdk
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 15:07:53 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Guillaume Rousse wrote: I'd like to have other people feedback on this point. If everyone agrees, the plf package could be dropped. For =9.0 yes. Yup, even multibyte TTF work well here. Abel -- Abel Cheung GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc msg85963/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] Re: [QA] cooker main changes
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:03:51PM +0100, Mandrakesoft packages database wrote: better tool in e2fsprogs Which tool is it that is better? These packages has been moved from cooker main to cooker contrib: - ext2resize-1.1.17-1mdk.i586 - ext2resize-1.1.17-1mdk.src - /mnt/BIG/dis/cooker/alpha/Mandrake/RPMS/ext2resize-1.1.14-6mdk.alpha.rpm - /mnt/BIG/dis/cooker/ia64/Mandrake/RPMS/ext2resize-1.1.14-2mdk.ia64.rpm - /mnt/BIG/dis/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/ext2resize-1.1.17-1mdk.ppc.rpm -- Brian J. Murrell msg85964/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 05:17:05 -0800, David Walser wrote: --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Name: Geramik Version : 0.17 * Tue Jan 14 2003 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.17-2mdk - Drop the gtkrc (un)installation stuff in %post/%postun, this is completely broken.. Gah!!! You destroyed it! All that post/postun stuff was heavily tested and works perfectly. All bugs reported were squashed. Expect complaints now. Would you mind explaning all of the below anyway? I think that this is not only broken, but *abusive* too. Theme is a per-user setting, why is it trying to make itself as a global theme by default? -- Abel Cheung GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc msg85965/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] 650 or 700 MB
I would have to debate the validity of the club members voting. I wonder how many got around to voting? and how many downloads of the 650 MB isos. and how many just said screw it, I don't want to bother, I'll just get the other linux that fits on the cds I have, and went away quietly. But, you may want to see how many MandrakeClub members voted for 650MB ISOs, as I may just be exaggerating the urgency of this due to the frustration at how hard a simple thing like this makes an installation, which we know should normally be flawless. Thanks for looking at this, Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
--- R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2003-01-14(Tue) 05:17:05 -0800, David Walser wrote: --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Name: Geramik Version : 0.17 * Tue Jan 14 2003 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.17-2mdk - Drop the gtkrc (un)installation stuff in %post/%postun, this is completely broken.. Gah!!! You destroyed it! All that post/postun stuff was heavily tested and works perfectly. All bugs reported were squashed. Expect complaints now. Would you mind explaning all of the below anyway? I think that this is not only broken, but *abusive* too. Theme is a per-user setting, why is it trying to make itself as a global theme by default? The idea is if you install this you *want* that. BUT, if you don't, it also is very careful to not get in your way. If you set something else as default, it won't override it. If you just delete that gtkrc it puts in place (to disable this being the default) then upgrade the package, it *won't* put it back. (Here I'm talking about the old version before fcrozat ruined it. The new version may not be as careful as the old one was). __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that?
hmmm I wonder if you have got/had the same problem as me - Windoze reported an error in disk size reported and fixed it during a defrag session - then I got a message similar to yours (I can't remeber the exact message) and some utilities (including fips 2.0) said I had overlapping partitions - yet I had done an automatic install (I just fdisk x% for Windows and let Linux automatically take care of the remainder (120 GB - x%) space - so far I have been unable to reproduce the circumstances but I now view MS Scandisk and Defrag with more suspicion (and caution) than ever! Allan From: J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that? Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:33:20 -0800 Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Hi, Getting this message whenever I boot up the machine, multiple times at different stages of the boot: ldm_validate_partition_table(): disk read failed. no idea why or what it means. What other info will help? only time I've seen disk read errors was when the drive was failing to register with the bios. or crashing ( ancient drive ) if your partition table got damaged at all that could concievably cause same error. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: [Cooker] 650 or 700 MB
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, et wrote: I would have to debate the validity of the club members voting. I wonder how many got around to voting? and how many downloads of the 650 MB isos. and how many just said screw it, I don't want to bother, I'll just get the other linux that fits on the cds I have, and went away quietly. Agreed, but the current vote has some value, and shows that 650MB ISOs are more popular than a lot of the packages that would fill the space. But, yes, even the current voting has too small a sample at present. Buchan -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x121 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7
[Cooker] Buggy Freetype2 and XFree in cooker
I've just tried Mdk9.1Beta, and found out that the new freetype2 breaks the menu font used in OpenOffice, leaving empty menus. It's reversed when installing back the original version. The new release of XFree didn't work well either. I have a Viper II video card (Savage2000 chipset from S3). The cursor became fuzzy, and the color of pictures mixed. I tried using Option sw_cursor for no result. Unfortunately, almost all new packages need the new XFree to install, and I couldn't further test the system as I had to step back the X version. Regards, Honor
Re: [Cooker] Re: [QA] cooker main changes
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 09:08:48 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:03:51PM +0100, Mandrakesoft packages database wrote: better tool in e2fsprogs Which tool is it that is better? I guess it is refering to /sbin/resize2fs. Abel -- Abel Cheung GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc msg85971/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that?
I suspect diskdrake to have a bug in certain conditions. I have noticed several mdk installations where fdisk or cfdisk complains about overlapping partitions, or partitions not ending on cylinder boundary (for ex the first primary ending on 788 for exemple and the extented partition starting at 788 too !). It was the case on MDK90, I dont know if it's still true on MDK9.1B1 ? Pascal Cavy Le Mardi 14 Janvier 2003 15:35, Allan Mee a écrit : hmmm I wonder if you have got/had the same problem as me - Windoze reported an error in disk size reported and fixed it during a defrag session - then I got a message similar to yours (I can't remeber the exact message) and some utilities (including fips 2.0) said I had overlapping partitions - yet I had done an automatic install (I just fdisk x% for Windows and let Linux automatically take care of the remainder (120 GB - x%) space - so far I have been unable to reproduce the circumstances but I now view MS Scandisk and Defrag with more suspicion (and caution) than ever! Allan From: J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ldm_validate_partition_table - what's that? Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:33:20 -0800 Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Hi, Getting this message whenever I boot up the machine, multiple times at different stages of the boot: ldm_validate_partition_table(): disk read failed. no idea why or what it means. What other info will help? only time I've seen disk read errors was when the drive was failing to register with the bios. or crashing ( ancient drive ) if your partition table got damaged at all that could concievably cause same error. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Pascal Cavy - VMF __ Running 3 days, 20:53, 4 users, load average: 0.86, 0.59, 0.62 (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-4mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.20-2mdkenterprise
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
On 2003-01-14(Tue) 06:33:17 -0800, David Walser wrote: I think that this is not only broken, but *abusive* too. Theme is a per-user setting, why is it trying to make itself as a global theme by default? The idea is if you install this you *want* that. BUT, ^^^ *THIS* idea is broken in this case. How many people will install *only* 1 theme? Generally people install many themes, and switch one by one later on if they like. If Geramik can establish itself as the default theme, why others can't? Or let them fight -- the first one installed wins? Abel if you don't, it also is very careful to not get in your way. If you set something else as default, it won't override it. If you just delete that gtkrc it puts in place (to disable this being the default) then upgrade the package, it *won't* put it back. (Here I'm talking about the old version before fcrozat ruined it. The new version may not be as careful as the old one was). -- Abel Cheung GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc msg85973/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] 650 or 700 MB
On Tuesday 14 January 2003 09:35 am, Buchan Milne wrote: On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, et wrote: I would have to debate the validity of the club members voting. I wonder how many got around to voting? and how many downloads of the 650 MB isos. and how many just said screw it, I don't want to bother, I'll just get the other linux that fits on the cds I have, and went away quietly. Agreed, but the current vote has some value, and shows that 650MB ISOs are more popular than a lot of the packages that would fill the space. But, yes, even the current voting has too small a sample at present. Buchan too small a sample, and (like most things linux) too many choices. which page of the voting is this on? I would be pleased to add my vote, but never get to whereever this is, since so many other things get my attenttion there.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [QA] cooker main changes
Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 03:03:51PM +0100, Mandrakesoft packages database wrote: better tool in e2fsprogs Which tool is it that is better? tv@vador ~ $ rpm -ql e2fsprogs-1.32-2mdk | fgrep resiz /sbin/resize2fs /usr/share/man/man8/resize2fs.8.bz2 try ext2resize on a fs with bad blocks, features it did not know, ... whereas with resize2fs, you can expect it to be updated when other e2fs tools're for a new feature...
[Cooker] php/openssl problem
/usr/bin/php: relocation error: /usr/lib/libphp_common.so.430: undefined symbol: OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
--- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is right.. Theme packages should not screw up default theme.. There is no point for discussion on that.. Geramik is not a normal theme. The only useful purpose it serves is being the default theme, alongside KDE's default Keramik theme. Looks-wise neither are all that wonderful, and noone's gonna choose to use them over something else. Their only usefulness is in their consistency, it's basically the same idea as Bluecurve. Moreover, Gemarik is more than buggy Yes, there's only one author, I'm sure he'd appreciate help. I would think having a well-working Geramik would be a desirable thing for MDK. (try switching from Gemarik to another theme with gnome-theme-manager) and frankly, You said something about it not working, but that hasn't been my experience (has Gtk changed?). The only problem is, even if you switch to a different theme sometimes in newer Geramik versions a few pieces of it are still left over. I only see this in Gtk+1 though. my only desire would be to push it out of contrib (but I won't, don't worry).. Well I'd rather KDE have a better default theme. Actually what might be cool is if Geramik were broken into two pieces, one that keeps the color/font/etc settings consistent between Qt and Gtk+ consistent, and another that's just the Keramiky theme. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
--- R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea is if you install this you *want* that. BUT, ^^^ *THIS* idea is broken in this case. How many people will install *only* 1 theme? Generally people install many themes, and switch one by one later on if they like. If Geramik can establish itself as the default theme, why others can't? Or let them fight -- the first one installed wins? You totally misunderstand the point of Geramik. It's not a regular Gtk+ theme. Its only usefulness is in being the default theme, along with KDE's default Keramik theme. In fact, Geramik is really only for KDE users, and only they would *install* it. No Gtk+ user is going to install it, let alone select it if it's not default. They're not that great looking themes, the only value in them is keeping color/font/etc settings consistent between Qt and Gtk+, like Bluecurve, just a bit less ugly. Also, even given this, the way it was done before still lets you decide to disable it as default, or make something else default and *DOESN'T GET IN YOUR WAY.* It took great care in this. Now it's just totally broken and useless. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
[Cooker] [Bug 533] [kernel] New: savagefb patch
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533 Product: kernel Component: kernel Summary: savagefb patch Version: 2.4.19-9mdk Platform: PC URL: http://directfb.org/download/DirectFB/DirectFB- 0.9.15.tar.gz OS/Version: All Status: ASSIGNED Severity: enhancement Priority: P5 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would be really cool if you could apply the patch that enables kernel framebuffer support for S3 Savage cards. The patch is savagefb-0.4.0-linux-2.4.19.patch.bz2 and is available in the DirectDB-0.9.5.tar.gz archive, in the patches directory. DirectFB is already in the contrib directory of cooker, so offering the savagefb framebuffer makes sense. --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-11-19 20:29 --- Created an attachment (id=43) -- (https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=43action=view) savagefb support It's easier if I attach the patch! --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: Mandrake installable into a UML
Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] If Mandrake were to create a run-time package (i.e. RPM) for the installer, like RedHat does with their anaconda RPM, doing a UML install would not require that it be run from the actual install CD (or an ISO image of it). If one could install a uml rpm, and a drakx rpm and then run drakx from a shell prompt (probably need some arguments like UML root image, etc.) and install the UML using DrakX that way, that would be just great. No need to put it on the install CD. so what you want is the ability to run install live, for example in a chrooted environment or an uml. there's no real pb doing this, except one needs to *do* it. Running install2 with --test already enables a pseudo install in /tmp/test-perl-install. it would be great to have this (both chrooted and uml). It could be a package providing .pm's missing from the drakxtools drakxtools-newt packages (like install2.pm, install_steps*) i don't think i'd have the time to do this, but i welcome any question/patch that would try to meet this goal :) some remarks: - install is a bit dirty, writing carelessly things in /tmp - install uses /tmp/image to access the root of the mandrake repository (eg: i have /tmp/image - /export, and i have rpms in /export/Mandrake/RPMS) - in test mode, install uses /tmp/test-perl-install instead of /mnt as the prefix to install packages to
Re: [Cooker] Failed to install on partition hdd10
David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I've had problems with it rewriting /etc/hosts before also (and changing the order!!) this should now be ok (unless you reconfigure your network by clicking on network configuration in summary)
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:14:10 +0800, R.I.P. Deaddog wrote: --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2003-01-14(Tue) 05:17:05 -0800, David Walser wrote: --- Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Name: Geramik=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20 Version : 0.17=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 * Tue Jan 14 2003 Frederic Crozat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.17-2mdk =20 - Drop the gtkrc (un)installation stuff in 0ost/0ostun, this is completely broken.. =20 Gah!!! You destroyed it! All that post/postun stuff was heavily tested and works perfectly. All bugs reported were squashed. Expect complaints now. =20 Would you mind explaning all of the below anyway? I think that this is not only broken, but *abusive* too. Theme is a per-user setting, why is it trying to make itself as a global theme by default? This is right.. Theme packages should not screw up default theme.. There is no point for discussion on that.. Moreover, Gemarik is more than buggy (try switching from Gemarik to another theme with gnome-theme-manager) and frankly, my only desire would be to push it out of contrib (but I won't, don't worry).. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] Geramik-0.17-2mdk
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:16:32 -0800, David Walser wrote: --- R.I.P. Deaddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea is if you install this you *want* that. BUT, ^^^ *THIS* idea is broken in this case. How many people will install *only* 1 theme? Generally people install many themes, and switch one by one later on if they like. If Geramik can establish itself as the default theme, why others can't? Or let them fight -- the first one installed wins? You totally misunderstand the point of Geramik. It's not a regular Gtk+ theme. Its only usefulness is in being the default theme, along with KDE's default Keramik theme. In fact, Geramik is really only for KDE users, and only they would *install* it. No Gtk+ user is going to install it, let alone select it if it's not default. They're not that great looking themes, the only value in them is keeping color/font/etc settings consistent between Qt and Gtk+, like Bluecurve, just a bit less ugly. BlueCurve doesn't do such a mess as Geramik package.. Also, even given this, the way it was done before still lets you decide to disable it as default, or make something else default and *DOESN'T GET IN YOUR WAY.* It took great care in this. Now it's just totally broken and useless. It is not broken, it is now behaving as a theme package should behave.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
