[Cooker] [Bug 6176] [kdebase] New: A white line appear in konqueror
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6176 Product: kdebase Component: program Summary: A white line appear in konqueror Product: kdebase Version: 3.1.3-79mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have installed a Mandrake 9.2 I launch 2 konqueror (A and B). I have for example mplayer site with Konqueror A. If I click on Konqueror B, click on konqueror A and use my wheelmouse or my keyboard to scroll mplayer site on konqueror A, a white line appears on the page. You can see my bug here: http://www.priap.com/mandrake/bug.jpg I have not this bug with Mozilla and I hadn't it with Mandrake 9.1 I have a Nvidia GeForce 4 MX 420 PCI and the bug appears with both nvidia driver and nv driver. I have this bug with all the sites, not only mplayer ! I can give more details on my problem but only in french ! My english is too weak. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sat Oct 18 12:29 -0400, Rob wrote: > On Saturday 18 October 2003 03:39, Ron Stodden wrote: > > No. I have legally carried out my only duty - to notify > > MandrakeSoft, the owner of the cooker mailing list. To do > > that is all that can possibly be required. > > Dude, it took you longer to write this whiny-ass message than it > would have to file a bug report like you should have in the > first place.Go away if you'd rather not be helpful. It's Ron's standard operating procedure. I'd killfile him, but it's just too entertaining for me to miss... -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait till next year... Let's Go RED SOX! Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - Ghost Rider Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 23:43:00 up 2 days, 11:27, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.17, 0.17
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sat Oct 18 17:39 +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: > That is true of all corporate entities, including the various government > entities. So if I write a letter to George W Bush, then I am correct in > assuming that all relevant groups and individuals operating below him > will have received it and will co-ordinate a single comprehensive timely > reply. Bwahahahahahahahahaha. I think we have a new winner for most absurd post by you. This is a momentous accomplishment, Sir! > I know it´s not easy on corporations, but that´s the law, you know Citation please, from a code that applies to MandrakeSoft (which, afaik would mean EU, French, or US law). -- Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wait till next year... Let's Go RED SOX! Currently playing: Rush - Vapor Trails - One Little Victory Linux 2.4.22-8mdk 23:36:00 up 2 days, 11:20, 6 users, load average: 0.44, 0.30, 0.21
[Cooker] [Bug 6158] [kernel] xfs quota does not work with encrypted loop filesystem
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6158 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-20-10 05:19 --- I have also email the xfs mailinglist, and the problem seems to be lying on the encryption layer, here is the mail thread. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-xfs&m=106649584820159&w=2 -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: I am currently running mandrake 9.2 (this applies to 9.0 and 9.1 also) xfs quota does not work with encrypted option turned on. for example: /dev/hde11 /home xfs encryption=AES128,encrypted,grpquota,usrquota 0 0 has the encryption, but unable to assign quota or enforce quota. without the encryption, quota just works
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 12:23 pm, Götz Waschk wrote: > Who's more important, the stupid windows convert, or the developer? If > you remove emacs from the CD, you'll scare of the developers. No > developers means no new software. BTW it's not emacs that is growing > and growing and taking away the CD space but the new generations of > GUI software, especially KDE. Oh i would say the stupid Windows converts as far as The Big I$$ue goes besides most developers if they found something "missing" they would 1 compile it from source 2 have an older version lying about 3 download the package from an ftp server
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 10:59 am, guran wrote: > Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie > wants to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: > 1) drivers for graphics > 2) drivers for sound > 3) drivers for java > 4) drivers for realplayer > 5) drivers for flash > > To my understanding Mdk has decided that these services should only be at > grip for users that buy packs from Mdk. So any user testing Mdk by > downloading the installation will only find obstacles forced on them by the > economic situation not because Mdk is difficult to use. > I think you may have a problem here. 1- 3 MUST WORK 99.999 of the time. if somebody makes a MONEY decision on the download ed then how are "we" going to confince them that they should buy the power pack when we don't happen to mention what is on what cd? (this is defined as 1 X works in at least 640x480 K colors 2 anything Soundblaster 16->Live compatible works 3 the JIT must function )
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 11:36 am, LE BERRE Daniel wrote: > Java, RealPlayer, flash, Nvidia drivers/plugins etc are not open source > software, so one just cannot distribute them on freely available isos, > while Mandrakesoft can sign an agreement with their vendor to distribute > them in their distribution. And this is true for any Linux distribution. > > Daniel Was not aware that Java didn't have a FSpackage okay. Can Nvidia chips use the FB Xserver or something as a "get crawling to the web to get a download copy" stopgap measure? Does the installer flag Nvidia chips so that Gnubies will know that "performance with this configuration may be impared until OEM issued closed source software has been installed or a properly supported video card has been installed"
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Duncan wrote: If you don't use core files for debugging, it's probably wise to turn them off. See the ulimit builtin from BASH, and the entry in /etc/profile. Note that the default is no core files, and the profile entry turns them on for root, with a limit of 1,000,000x1024 bytes!! With a 5G /, you are lucky it was only 7.8M, instead of closer to the nearly a gig limit! Thanks. I commented it out in /etc/profile, viz: # Users generally won't see annoyng core files # [ "$UID" = "0" ] && ulimit -S -c 100 > /dev/null 2>&1 and look forward to no further problem (fingers crossed :-) ). I cannot decode your mention of bash´s ulimit command into some desirable action (no man info found). -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/<--- Changed 19th October!
[Cooker] Cooperative Bug Isolation Project
Has the idea of using the Cooperative Bug Isolation Project crossed the table at MandrakeSoft? Here is an article from news.com http://news.com.com/2100-7344-5092919.html There seems to be 6 prebuilt Red Hat 9 packages at http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~liblit/sampler/downloads/, but of course these will not be maintained at a cooker pace. Summary:If the Cooperative Bug Isolation Project http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~liblit/sampler/ can get enough people to use the special versions, they essentially will be providing the eyes of debuggers more peepholes into software's inner workings. --news.com Interesting to note... "One way to get more participants would be to get the open-source projects, or even companies, to release feedback-enabled versions of software. But currently, the project members don't plan on making the sampler-enabled programs more widely available, Liblit said." --news.com -- Sounds like Cooker would be an excellent place to test the debuggers, and possible integrate into draketools. Of course the debuggers do not need to get included in the freeze if not deemed reliable, etc. Regards, Keven Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month!
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
John Allen wrote: Ron Stodden wrote: Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download edition installed jaffe for me ... You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub Really? There are no 9.2 unsupported-MandrakeClub items yet, and no j2* RPMs in the 9.1 unsupported-MandrakeClub tree. -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/<--- Changed 19th October!
[Cooker] [Bug 1441] [Installation] Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 installation fails during PCMCIA hardware detection on Compaq Evo N1015v laptop
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1441 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-20-10 01:50 --- Seeing the same bug here as well, with 9.2 final release and a Compaq Presario 915us. At the "Enabling PCMCIA extension cards..." point, I get: Bank 3: b400083b at 0001fc0003c8 Kernel panic: Unable to continue Install works with "linux nomce noauto". Bug 2130 seems to be a dup of this one. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: I tried to install Mandrake Linux 9.1 beta 3 (dated 31.1.2003 17:30:28) to my Compaq EVO N1015v laptop. During the very beginning of the installation, the installation program seems to hang when enabling PCMCIA extension cards. The exact error message is "Bank 3: b400083b at 0001fc0003c8 Kernel panic: Unable to continue". (Screenshot available at http://www.sunpoint.net/~jhero/HPIM0182.JPG). Unfortunately I cannot access the log or kernel messages by pressing Alt-F3 or Alt-F4, because the whole system seems to hang and does not respond to any keys pressed. Compaq EVO N1015v has AMD Athlon Mobile XP 1500+, 256 Mb of RAM, ATI Mobility U1 display adapter, 20 Mb Fujitsu hard disk, Integrated network adapter (Windows XP recognizes as Realtek RTL8139 C+), and Winmodem (Conexant Intl HSFi V92 Mini PCI). I have also 3Com wireless card 3CRWE62092A connected to PCMCIA slot. It does not seem to help if I remove PCMCIA card before the installation. I tried to install both, in expert and in normal mode, but it does not seem to make any difference. I also tried to install Mandrake Linux 9.1 beta 3 from the same cd to my desktop PC, and it seems to go just fine (in that sense, there should not be anything wrong on the installation cd).
Re: [Cooker] printer packages
Le Dimanche 19 Octobre 2003 00:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : > >> > Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 11:43, Buchan Milne a écrit : > >> >> No significant advantage over CUPS (AFAIR). > >> > > >> > So would you prefer cups for a printer not shared (for both security > >> > >> and size reasons) ? > >> > >> I have no such printers ;-). > > > > unlike many people (such as standalone desktops) ;-) > > Huh? What is that? ;-) (sorry, but no place I have been recently has less > than 2 computers, and if you have 2 computers and a printer ...). lucky man! ;-) > > >> Till probably has some other reasons ... > > > > I wonder which ones. > > > > > > I found this script: > > /etc/dynamic/scripts/functions.script > > > > check_activated $0 > > > > MODE=660 > > OWNER=lp.sys > > > > if [ -x /usr/sbin/update-alternatives ]; then > > TYPE=`/usr/sbin/update-alternatives --display lpr 2> /dev/null | > > grep > > currently | cut -f 6 -d ' '` > > case "$TYPE" in > > *lpd) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.lp;; > > *cups) MODE=660; OWNER=lp.sys;; > > *pdq) MODE=666;; # should be done via pam_console > > esac > > fi > > ... > > > > Is pdq less secure than others for this ? > > In some ways yes, in others, no. > > PDQ doesn't have a spooler, so all users need to be able to print. > Currently it looks like this is just done by makeing the print devices > world-writeable. As the comment says, pam_console (see > /etc/security/console.perms) would be better, which is how a lot of other > devices are managed. > > Of course, PDQ doesn't have a daemon running with elevated priveleges > (like CUPS does). > > So, with PDQ you are allowing any logged in user to send any data they > like to the machine, with CUPS you are allowing any remote user (unless > you do some work securing it) to send data to port 631 on your machine. > Worst case scenario for PDQ is someone sends data to your printer that > does it some harm (or uses your paper). With CUPS, they could again > elevated priveleges, *and* waste all your paper ;-). > > For a single-user, non-networked machine, PDQ is better. But, for a Then why not include it in the 3 cd set? Most of the users need it. Few people around me have more than only one computer and few of them have a network. :-) (All have an other os! :-<) _If you are right_, i hope it has been included in discovery edition whith choice for the user to use it or not... > network, CUPS is just so much easier (easier than Windows printing since > you just plug a machine in the network and it finds all printers, and you > don't have to worry about printer drivers etc). > > Regards, > Buchan
[Cooker] [Bug 6175] [kernel] New: Complete freeze with Intel Speedstep activation on Dell laptop
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6175 Product: kernel Component: default Summary: Complete freeze with Intel Speedstep activation on Dell laptop Product: kernel Version: 2.4.22-17mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: default AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have had problems with my Dell Latitude C640 laptop and Mandrake 9.2, kernel 2.4.22 (the default kernel). When the powercord is plugged/unplugged the whole machine freezes (forced powerdown + reboot needed). Normally when you plug/unplug the power, the processor switches speed from 1.8 to 1.6 GHz and some other power save settings are applied. The problem turns out to be the Intel Speedstep. When I disable this in my Bios the problem goes away, and I can unplug/plug normally with all power save functions enabled in the Bios and kernel. For your information: * The problem is not there with mdk 9.1, and 9.2RC1 (did not try RC2). * the bug is 100% reproducible (everytime) on my machine with mdk 9.2 default kerne;. * the bug could be reproduced with the secure kernel provided by mdk 9.2. * passing the nolapic option to the kernel did not fix it. * enable ACPI, force no APIC (in bootloader options) did not fix it. * Disabling all power save options in the Bios did not work either (even not after recompile). -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6174] [xmms-crossfade] New: XMMS process isn't destroyed after closing XMMS
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6174 Product: xmms-crossfade Component: xmms-crossfade Summary: XMMS process isn't destroyed after closing XMMS Product: xmms-crossfade Version: 0.3.4-1mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: xmms-crossfade AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have installed Mandrake 9.2 and I use XMMS 1.2.7-25mdk and xmms-crossfade-0.3.4-1mdk. When I use the output plugin crossfade and I play a MP3 or a Ogg, if I close XMMS and I make a "ps aux" in a xterm, I have 4 process of XMMS who stay. If I play another file, i have 4 another process who stay. So I have 8 process of XMMS. Finally, I have 4*nb_of_files_played present when I make a ps aux. I have not this problem if I use aRts plugin as output plugin. If I click on a MP3 when XMMS is launched, this MP3 is played but there is no new 4 process. My sound card is an Audigy. PS: Sorry for my poor english but I think french men can understand me ! -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
supermount for 2.6 ? (was Re: [Cooker] OT: anyone test8 or recent -mm with initrd ?)
> On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: > > > > Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 16:13, Svetoslav Slavtchev a écrit : > > > > Hi , > > > > the sebject tells it almost all, > > > > > > > > with 2.6.0-test8 everything seems OK until i try to boot it :( > > > You need to undo a patch / changeset ( cf > > > > http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5/[EMAIL PROTECTED]|Ch > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ) to make initrd to work. > > > > thanks :-) > > > > but nope > > that worked, but better solution is available > > check lkml "test8 initrd" search, to get the patch > > it was devfs issue > > > > the sad thing is that under test8 i can not reach any web site, > > ftp, ssh work OK, but http doesn't seem to work :( > > > > pretty strange, not ? > > > > svetljo > > > > PS. > > > > anyone having supermount for test[6,7,8] > > the last available is for test5 but in test6 there were > > changes in the fs option parsing > > I mailed Andrey a while ago about something. He didn't answer however > (which is unusual, but sometimes he is away for work for a prolonged > period). that explains why i don't have an answer too :-) anyone brave to hack supermount ? svetljo PS ( me again tring to package a kernel :-) http://varna.demon.co.uk/~svetlio/ruby-contrib/wip/2.6/ ) -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
[Cooker] [Bug 6173] [Installation] New: MD5SUM error during Mandrake 9.2 Web/FTP Installation
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6173 Product: Installation Component: stage1 Summary: MD5SUM error during Mandrake 9.2 Web/FTP Installation Product: Installation Version: 1.847 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: critical Priority: P2 Component: stage1 AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doing an 'urpmi.update -a', I always get a MD5 error for the Mandrake 9.2 Install tree. I use http://ftp.club-internet.fr /pub/unix/linux/Mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/ The wrong MD5 sums appear for both hdlist.cz and synthesis.hdlist.cz files as taken from ../base I compared the md5sums of the two files with the sums in the ../base/MD5SUM list after downloading hdlist.cz, synthesis.hdlist.cz, and MD5SUM. These are the results: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK]$ md5sum hdlist.cz 745ca56870debc616e3a1a48e96064d7 hdlist.cz [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK]$ md5sum synthesis.hdlist.cz cac3f2567e0e3a3164cca1500fc4a4ed synthesis.hdlist.cz [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK]$ egrep ' (synthesis\.|)hdlist\.cz$' MD5SUM cf6254a7afa19e470e8662b3d923120c hdlist.cz 5a2a653536e87d269809469cdc91b9dc synthesis.hdlist.cz [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK]$ md5sum --check MD5SUM hdlist.cz: Fehlschlag synthesis.hdlist.cz: Fehlschlag md5sum: Warnung: 2 von 2 berechneten Prüfsummen passten NICHT (Because I use the german localization of MandrakeLinux, here a short translation: Fehlschlag means failure, and the last line: Warning: 2 of 2 calculated checksums doesn't match) Here is my uname -a line for identifying my environment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK]$ uname -a Linux machine 2.4.22-16mdk #1 Fri Oct 17 05:08:42 CEST 2003 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux I use urpmi version 4.4 I think the recreation of hdlist.cz and synthesis.hdlist.cz and the recreation of the MD5SUM file should solve the problem. Probably the MD5SUM step is enough if the validity of the two files can be confirmed. Kindest regards, Guenter -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] OT: anyone test8 or recent -mm with initrd ?
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: > > Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 16:13, Svetoslav Slavtchev a écrit : > > > Hi , > > > the sebject tells it almost all, > > > > > > with 2.6.0-test8 everything seems OK until i try to boot it :( > > You need to undo a patch / changeset ( cf > > http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5/[EMAIL PROTECTED]|Ch > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ) to make initrd to work. > > thanks :-) > > but nope > that worked, but better solution is available > check lkml "test8 initrd" search, to get the patch > it was devfs issue > > the sad thing is that under test8 i can not reach any web site, > ftp, ssh work OK, but http doesn't seem to work :( > > pretty strange, not ? > > svetljo > > PS. > > anyone having supermount for test[6,7,8] > the last available is for test5 but in test6 there were > changes in the fs option parsing I mailed Andrey a while ago about something. He didn't answer however (which is unusual, but sometimes he is away for work for a prolonged period). d.
Re: [Cooker] LM9.2: What a nice release!
On Sunday 19 October 2003 12:32 pm, Frederic Soulier wrote: > My hardware is: > 2 x P3 733MHz (Supermicro mobo) > 512Mb Ram > 3 x HD (2 are connected to a Promise Ultra100TX2) ~150Gb total > SB Live! 1024 > PCI card with 3 x USB2 ports and 2 x Firewire 400 ports > Internal CD-RW (SCSI using an Adaptec 29140N) > Internal Pioneer DVD-R106 (IDE) > Internal Tape drive > > External USB Storage (6Gb HD) > External Firewire enclosure (1 x 120Gb HD + 1 x 20Gb HD) > iPod 30Gb > Sony Digital Camera DSC-F505 on the bright side I have a happy report using this hardware. Win xp cant even do this without using a heavily modified installer that has taken me a few months to get working. epox 8rda3+ nforce motherboard: the installer found the chipset and also the sound and it worked great. ati radeon 8500: again proper drivers were installed and it was working great but I do believe this was working well before. sata on a silicone image controller: this worked great also installing onto a maxtor sata 80 gig drive. Hercules game theater xp sound card: For the first time this worked great also and I was able to record with it using audacity. Now in past releases some of this stuff did not work at all or not properly. I would say all in all this is a very fine distro. 9.2 is the best one I've seen since about 6.0 or 6.5. Not to say the others were not good but rather to say I'm highly impressed at this time the same way 6.5 impressed me back then for what it could do and what it included. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, John Allen wrote: > You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub better rebuild the jpackage ones, or even my old packages in 9.1 testing. The official ones suck. d. > >
[Cooker] [Bug 6165] [rhythmbox] Freeze when adding after delete all
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6165 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-10 22:29 --- I have installed some libs that the update failed (pcre, libdha and libpostproc0) and the "bug" seems to go away... :? set it as invalid. Thanks -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: When delete all songs in the Library, and try to add another source of songs, the application freeze when click on the ok button of the file dialog. In the console it's put: ** (rhythmbox:7559): WARNING **: FIXME: guard from double entry
Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia driver messes up console mode (framebuffer?)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 4:37 pm, Bjarne Thomsen wrote: > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 17:54, Bjarne Thomsen wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 11:41, Juan Quintela wrote: > > > Grrr, NVidia cards are just making my life miserable. > > > Can people please mail me the output of lspcidrake -v and telling me > > > what versions work/don't work for you? > > > > I have an MSI FX5200-T64 graphics board. > > The main board is MS-6570 (K7N2 Delta-ILSR). > > The "galaxy" screensaver eventually freezes X (98% CPU) > > for both nvidia 1.0-4191 and 1.0-4496! > > I can log onto the system with ssh, but > > shutdown does not finish. I have to turn off the > > power to get it to boot. It ends up with white stripes > > across the console when I try to re-boot. > > Now i use 2.4.22-12mdkenterprise, but it was the same > > with 2.4.22-10mdkenterprise. > > I have found that disabling AGP 8X support solves my > problem with K7N2 Delta-ILSR. I have now been running the > screensaver for many hours without any lock-up of X. > (This is with gnome) > > -- Bjarne Interesting indeed. We built a bunch of PC's with Gainward Mx440-8X cards that crashed @ 8X, but seemed stable @ 4X (up for days between crashes). However even under Windows the Gainwards crashed @ 8X. We changed them for Asus V9180, and they work fine @ 8X.
[Cooker] [Bug 5556] [kdeartwork] No screensavers are installed in 9.2rc2
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5556 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-10 21:39 --- Do: mkdir /usr/share/applnk-mdk.hidden ln -s /usr/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers /usr/share/applnk-mdk.hidden/ It worked for me in 9.2rc2 and 9.2 final -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: By default, my install of 9.2rc2 had no screensavers installed, so I installed the kdeartwork package (kdeartwork-3.1.3-4mdk). There are still no screensavers installed.
[Cooker] LM9.2: What a nice release!
Hi I just wanted to tell you guys at Mandrake and all the contributors that you produced a very nice release indeed! I upgraded to a silver membership from my standard one on the day the ISOs were made available to the club members to be able to get the Powerpack Edition and I do not regret it one bit! In less than 24h I had both the Download Edition and the Powerpack Edition downloaded and ~4Gb were uploaded from my BitTorrent (so I'm about even here). My hardware is: 2 x P3 733MHz (Supermicro mobo) 512Mb Ram 3 x HD (2 are connected to a Promise Ultra100TX2) ~150Gb total SB Live! 1024 PCI card with 3 x USB2 ports and 2 x Firewire 400 ports Internal CD-RW (SCSI using an Adaptec 29140N) Internal Pioneer DVD-R106 (IDE) Internal Tape drive External USB Storage (6Gb HD) External Firewire enclosure (1 x 120Gb HD + 1 x 20Gb HD) iPod 30Gb Sony Digital Camera DSC-F505 Minor ennoyances (using Powerpack Edition): - during the installation, the windows for the individual package selection were unusually small (I had to use the right-left scrolling to see anything) This was not happening in RC2. - during the summary, same pbm. This was not happening in RC2. - during the services activation/deactivation, same pbm This was not happening in RC2. - during the disk partitioning (custom partitioning) the external USB storage was recognized as sda1, the firewire drives were recognized as sdb1, sdb2 and sdc1 Trying to assign mount points like /mnt/multimedia, the installer tried to mount /mnt/mnt/multimedia I reported the pbm in bugzilla for beta2 I believe. sdb1 was indicated as being FAT32 when it's EXT3... After changing the mount point to something the installer would accept the rest of the installation was pretty straight forward (except for the small windows pbm). - upon reboot the external devices caused some troubles as they could not be mounted and I was presented with the fsck option or Ctrl-D (kind of going circles here). This may be due to the fact that during the boot up sequence the firewire modules seem to be activated after the mounting sequence. The only solution was to somehow find a way to edit the fstab to remove the definitions for these drives... (I used another Linux installation to mount / and edit /etc/fstab) - Once in KDE I changed the fstab to include all my drives (hardcoded) without using the hotplug stuff (although I need to re-visit this area as it's still a mistery to me how it really works). - I've noticed that if my external USB storage is switched on during the boot up sequence, it sometimes appears on the SCSI bus before my hdc (with SCSI). It's kind of odd that an external device ends up registered before an internal device... and it causes pbm with the way the fstab is setup. - I had the menu disappearing pbm when doing software installation. This was repaired everytime by doing update-menus as root. The good: - well, thanks to urpmi, contrib and plf pretty much everything is setup and working well, audio, mp3, dvd playing, opengl (nvidia drivers), games (CivCTP, quake3, RTCW, Neverwinter Nights ** those are not available through urpmi, go buy them!), VMWare, iPod, VPN access to my company (with Cisco modules), etc... - Encoding CDs to MP3 while at the same time using VMWare, uploading MP3s to my iPod and transfering files from internal HD to external firewire HD did not cause any troubles at all. (I cannot say it was really fast, they're only old fashioned P3 after all but it was moving along rather nicely). It's too early to say it will stay stable in all conditions (plus I haven't tried everything yet) but I had a lot of pbms (crashes once a day at least) with LM9.1 and more recently Gentoo doing these things so right now I'm a very happy silver member. Thanks Mandrake (and contributors of course). -- Frederic P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP key available on http://www.keyserver.net 1024D/BA6700ED 49A6 8E8E 4230 8D41 1ADE B649 3203 1DD2 BA67 00ED _ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Cooker] !! 9.2 issues -- help
Hi Adrian, Don't want to hurt you at all, but You are a naughty boy !!! Have you read "All what your mother didn't tell you about using Cooker mailing-list" ? ;-) See http://www.mandrakelinux.com/fr/cookerdevel.php3 : "Several bugs are also reported and discussed directly on the Cooker Mailing-list. Before reporting a bug this way, please search the Cooker mailing-list archives for this bug. It's generally not a good idea to report bugs to the Cooker mailing-list directly." If you want to become a good boy, the first thing you should do before posting is to check if your problem had not been "bugzilladed" yet (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/). Your problem is reported at least 5 or 6 times and a workaround is given. More generally, when you have a problem, give more details if you can : version of softwares involved, hardware you have (mobo, cpu,..), options or configuration info, logs (well significant part of) if you have some,.. : in your case the kernel (for the webcam), XFree SDL OpenGL (for your pb nr 4) version is important. Ok, this said, your 1st pb is probably due to snd-usb-audio module bug (search webcam http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/) and adding it's name in /etc/hotplug/blacklist is the workaround. You also should test the last kernels (kernel-2.4.22.17mdk-1-1mdk) : recent changelog deals with that. Rgds Berthy Le dim 19/10/2003 à 19:59, Adrian Rodriguez a écrit : > Hi I just installed 9.2 and I have a few problems. > > 1. I have a Logitech Quickcam for notebooks pro > and I've been using it since 9.1. In 9.1 it recognized > it and used the pwc module. I had to download the > pwcx module to get more FPS out if it and get gnomemeeting to work > so I tried to plug it in right now into 9.2 --- complete crash :( > It says its loading the pwc module then the snd-usb-audio module > b/c of the built in microphone but after that my laptop freezes > I can't ssh into to it or anything... :( any ideas on what is going on? > or how I might be able to provide more information to mandrake b/c > I really do need my webcam working---talk to family and friends :-P > > 2. I'm not sure why this happened but I did a very minimal install the first > time and then I installed loads of rpms once the system was running. > Prior to installing the rpms I still had mandrake menus. After that my system > menu changed to something containing "Applications" "Development" etc... > only like 4 or 5 folders in the menu with hardly anything in them. It maybe > had about 1 application or 2 per folder. Nothing crazy... I just loaded up > menudrake and took care of it but that might be something to look at. > > 3. My Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card does not get configured properly. > It does recognize the orinoco_cs module that it needs and even make the > ifcfg-eth1 script but I still had to do the hermes.conf hack to get it to > work. ---> this step is on my website under tutorials. maybe take care of > this for mdk 10? > > 4. I have an inspiron 4000 with a rage mobility 128 w/ 8MB or ram. > It says i can choose X with 3d hardware acceleration but when i try > playing a game it is slow...very slow so tuxracer and chromium or just > not playable. i tried running other games like frozen bubble. Although > they do play I'm not sure why they don't fullscreen correctly. I see the > screen change modes but the game picture is in the center and not full > screened. It happens with alot of applications that I fullscreen. Mplayer > when I fullscreen does the same thing... screen changes modes but the picture > is in the center still small. However... KMplayer uses mplayer and > fullscreens correctly. any ideas about the 3d acceleration and fullscreening? > > any help would be great. thanx :) >
Re: [Cooker] !! 9.2 issues -- help
On Sunday 19 October 2003 19:59, Adrian Rodriguez wrote: > Hi I just installed 9.2 and I have a few problems. > 3. My Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card does not get configured > properly. It does recognize the orinoco_cs module that it needs and > even make the ifcfg-eth1 script but I still had to do the hermes.conf > hack to get it to work. ---> this step is on my website under > tutorials. maybe take care of this for mdk 10? i own the same, but i didn't tested it under linux, apart from plugging it and see the ifconfig output. it runs dhcp, so, what is the problem ? all i can say is that orinoco_cs doesn't offer all that linux-wlan-ng give. with wlan-ng, i can use kismet and airsnort, but i never been able to connect to a access point. > 4. I have an inspiron 4000 with a rage mobility 128 w/ 8MB or ram. > It says i can choose X with 3d hardware acceleration but when i try > playing a game it is slow...very slow so tuxracer and chromium or > just not playable. i tried running other games like frozen bubble. > Although they do play I'm not sure why they don't fullscreen > correctly. I see the screen change modes but the game picture is in > the center and not full screened. It happens with alot of > applications that I fullscreen. Mplayer when I fullscreen does the > same thing... screen changes modes but the picture is in the center > still small. However... KMplayer uses mplayer and fullscreens > correctly. any ideas about the 3d acceleration and fullscreening? i have a ati rage mobility, and, to use fullscreen in mplayer, i use xv output, and ati.2 package. there is no 3d acceleration, or only in cvs. -- Mickaël Scherer
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 09:59 am, Jan Ciger wrote: > They are still on the 9.2 CDs, they weren't left out. Just that mc is > not installed by default. Is it so difficult to either select mc during > install or tell the newbie to "urpmi mc" ? What is your point ? It was a > decision by Mandrakesoft to not install mc by default, we may not agree > with it but whining in Cooker is not going to change it. This discussion > was here already and now it is too late for it anyway. not going to worry about the rest as you are not reading properly so I wont answer. I don't really care about mc per say lets say I'm not even talking about mc. I was mentioning all the related emacs packages not just xemacs. I think that about clears up your arguments and if your read correctly I said I include all the main packages accept the games and only the needed gnome stuff from contribs. Please do read a little better and think out your answers before you respond. here is a partial list of 9.1 only as I dont have them local and no easy way to get them other than rpmsearch. Name : emacs-X11 Version : 21.2.93 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Date : 2003-01-29 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : emacs-21.2.93-2mdk.src.rpm Size : 5883326 Name : xemacs-mule Version : 21.4.12 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm Size : 27610093 Name : emacs Version : 21.2.93 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 2mdk Date : 2003-01-29 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : emacs-21.2.93-2mdk.src.rpm Size : 21090232 Name : xemacs-info Version : 21.4.12 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm Size : 3526956 Name : xemacs Version : 21.4.12 Vendor : MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Date : 2003-02-13 00:00:00 Group : Editors Source RPM : xemacs-21.4.12-1mdk.src.rpm Size : 53239331 none of these packages accept for xemacs-info are very small in size. they all combined are well close to the numbers I gave. I dont know the conversion right off but they are easily around 60 megs the other packages I was thinking about which would have brought it close to 100 are in contribs. Anyway this was for mandrake 9.1 anyway so I dont know exact number for 9.2 or the current cooker it's hard to measure the size of them when they are not on your system. As for the rest of what you said I'm not sure I think you are a little confused and not reading my responses correctly. Please keep an open mind and reread them to understand. Ah just when you think cooker is getting a little boring. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] !! 9.2 issues -- help
Hi I just installed 9.2 and I have a few problems. 1. I have a Logitech Quickcam for notebooks pro and I've been using it since 9.1. In 9.1 it recognized it and used the pwc module. I had to download the pwcx module to get more FPS out if it and get gnomemeeting to work so I tried to plug it in right now into 9.2 --- complete crash :( It says its loading the pwc module then the snd-usb-audio module b/c of the built in microphone but after that my laptop freezes I can't ssh into to it or anything... :( any ideas on what is going on? or how I might be able to provide more information to mandrake b/c I really do need my webcam working---talk to family and friends :-P 2. I'm not sure why this happened but I did a very minimal install the first time and then I installed loads of rpms once the system was running. Prior to installing the rpms I still had mandrake menus. After that my system menu changed to something containing "Applications" "Development" etc... only like 4 or 5 folders in the menu with hardly anything in them. It maybe had about 1 application or 2 per folder. Nothing crazy... I just loaded up menudrake and took care of it but that might be something to look at. 3. My Linksys WPC11 v3 wireless card does not get configured properly. It does recognize the orinoco_cs module that it needs and even make the ifcfg-eth1 script but I still had to do the hermes.conf hack to get it to work. ---> this step is on my website under tutorials. maybe take care of this for mdk 10? 4. I have an inspiron 4000 with a rage mobility 128 w/ 8MB or ram. It says i can choose X with 3d hardware acceleration but when i try playing a game it is slow...very slow so tuxracer and chromium or just not playable. i tried running other games like frozen bubble. Although they do play I'm not sure why they don't fullscreen correctly. I see the screen change modes but the game picture is in the center and not full screened. It happens with alot of applications that I fullscreen. Mplayer when I fullscreen does the same thing... screen changes modes but the picture is in the center still small. However... KMplayer uses mplayer and fullscreens correctly. any ideas about the 3d acceleration and fullscreening? any help would be great. thanx :) -- Adrian Rodriguez University of Southern California Computer Science http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sergior
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Le Dimanche 19 Octobre 2003 12:10, Duncan a écrit : > Here, I commented out that line, so root doesn't create core files either, What line did you comment out? I'm also don't want root to create core files, but I'm not sure what to do. -- Élie Charest [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://archie.homelinux.net:8080
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
> The Idea is not weather or not to include them but were to include > them. Who are they trying to market with the free download edition. > Developers I sure hope not as allot of the devel libs and things > that are needed are not really in there. To get a good devel box > going you may need libs out of contribs along with the devel > counterparts and many other things. It gets even worse if you > develop for gnome as a fair amount of gnome libs are in contribs. Hm > so if the free version is not geared to developers per say who is it > marketed to? It should be first priority to find the target market > and target them. I don't care about the business effects of this, but I think a Linux distribution needs the two most common developer's editors, emacs and vim. Without them, you can't take a distribution seriously. Sure, the bootsplash and kde themes toys are important for the first impression, but the usefulness of the included software create the quality of the distribution. What's more useful, GNU emacs, which is God and can do everything, or kde screensavers, which are eye candy but don't increase your productivity. Sure, most people could download the extra stuff, but that's not always possible, for instance I don't have an internet connection in my home machine. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Le Dimanche 19 Octobre 2003 10:42, Jan Ciger a écrit : > Brook, you may think that nobody from Windows converts ever uses Emacs, > that's perhaps true. Actually, I was a Windows convert and the first text editor I used under Linux was indeed Emacs! Don't ask me why...I think that I had heard about it, so when I first typed "edit" in a console and got "command not found", I thought to myself "what text editor do they use in Unix - oh yeah, Emacs!"... Now, I mostly use Kedit, Kate or Vim (if I'm in a console mood), but I did use emacs for a while. I've recently cleaned up my installation (my /usr was at 90% capacity) and even though I removed quite a few packages - including xemacs - I still kept emacs. I'm not sure why, but I do think we should definitely keep it, if only for karmic reasons! :-) Furthermore, Unix converts will complain if we don't have it - and these days, they are more numerous than Windows converts (unfortunately). -- Élie Charest [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://archie.homelinux.net:8080
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 09:23 am, Götz Waschk wrote: > Who's more important, the stupid windows convert, or the developer? If > you remove emacs from the CD, you'll scare of the developers. No > developers means no new software. BTW it's not emacs that is growing > and growing and taking away the CD space but the new generations of > GUI software, especially KDE. it does not matter if it is growing it was to big to begin with. And it is growing there are now special packages for tex, and who knows what else that are added to add extra features to emacs. The Idea is not weather or not to include them but were to include them. Who are they trying to market with the free download edition. Developers I sure hope not as allot of the devel libs and things that are needed are not really in there. To get a good devel box going you may need libs out of contribs along with the devel counterparts and many other things. It gets even worse if you develop for gnome as a fair amount of gnome libs are in contribs. Hm so if the free version is not geared to developers per say who is it marketed to? It should be first priority to find the target market and target them. As for the powerpack edition who is the target market for that? Is it something allot of developers may pick up? YES. Is it something that includes sources if they need it? YES. Are we seeing a pattern yet? So since it seems like a good fit for the powerpack and not the download edition. There is some space that could be saved in the download edition to the tune of about 60 megs at the least. I'm not sure how many emacs related rpm's are included but the main one is at least 35 megs or so and there are a ton of related ones that are included. Well not a ton but a fair amount. I'm guessing at about 60 megs worth. That would be more than enough space to include whatever else they needed to go into the download edition. And let us not forget anybody could simply download the latest tree from ftp and roll their own if they dont like the way mandrake does it. Another thing that mandrake could do is provide urpmi sources right out of the box for remote sources and turn them off by default and then ask if they would like to use them. This would allow the user with a fast line to easily get anything he does not have from ftp and it would not require any more setup time for the end user since the urpmi sources would already be there. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brook Humphrey wrote: | Nope I never said nobody uses it. It is used mostly by developers which we | have quite allot of but the normal every day user will not use it. Period. | Yes it is the same for vi and mc. My only point in mentioning them is that | they are not 100megs worth of bloat. They maybe reach 5 or 6 megs if they get | left out for room my point is that emacs is much larger source of bloat. An | amount of space that could be used for other packages to make the desktop | users experience more useful. They are still on the 9.2 CDs, they weren't left out. Just that mc is not installed by default. Is it so difficult to either select mc during install or tell the newbie to "urpmi mc" ? What is your point ? It was a decision by Mandrakesoft to not install mc by default, we may not agree with it but whining in Cooker is not going to change it. This discussion was here already and now it is too late for it anyway. | you are correct about mc of course but it still is a great tool when your | system is having major problems and you need to get in and do some work in | rescue mode. If you are going to use rescue, you should probably know your way around without needing mc. Not that it is a bad tool, but tinkering around in rescue by a newbie not knowing what he/she is doing is risky at best (I know this well - have to support my girlfriend over the phone 1000km away in case that something breaks on her machine). | I suppose the new contrib package may obsolete this (mklivecd) | as then you could have a bootable version of fluxbox or wimea running | mandrake on the cd and then do your stuff from there. it would be slower but | more pretty to look at. Uh ? Since when is good looks for a rescue disk the most important thing? You really have weird priorities. I would rather toss the X from it and include tools you are going to need in the case of disaster. Good looking but useless rescue disk is not going to help save your system. | yes possibly but the majority don't use this either. All I'm saying is with | all the griping this is definitely not an essential package that needs to go | on the first 3 cd's the developers will know hot to get it also they cant be | that daft or linux would not be were it is now. Brook, this is pure handwaving. Do you have numbers for the "majority" thing? Or are you generalizing just from what you and few people around you are using ? | Nope I was not whining. Somebody else asked were the space was going not me. | I've been rolling my own cd's since at least 8.0 or so so I don't really | care. Well, then why do you complain about missing mc (and it is not even missing) when you do not care ? | It is very easy to rid the distro of fat for me. But somebody else | asked were the fat was coming from and I answered him in a frank way. Maybe | others don't like to hear it but it is true. Well, that was not a frank answer. You just picked up on packages you do not use/like. More correct answer is running something like : ls -l | sort -r -n -k 5 | head -n 30 on each CD. E.g. CD1 (download edition), in the first 30 lines, there is just koffice, gnucash and gimp from the "non-essential" category. The rest is kernel, X or mainly KDE stuff. CD2 - larger than 10MB are just these : ~ 43546290 Sep 18 12:59 OpenOffice.org-libs-1.1-0.rc4.2mdk.i586.rpm ~ 32090639 Sep 19 11:31 mozilla-1.4-13mdk.i586.rpm ~ 25619822 Sep 11 23:48 tetex-2.0.2-10mdk.i586.rpm ~ 20075542 Sep 11 23:54 xemacs-21.4.14-1mdk.i586.rpm ~ 15409630 Sep 5 14:07 kdeedu-3.1.3-9mdk.i586.rpm ~ 15004841 Sep 18 12:54 OpenOffice.org-1.1-0.rc4.2mdk.i586.rpm ~ 11565922 Aug 6 21:00 fonts-ttf-big5-1.0-20mdk.noarch.rpm ~ 11028220 Sep 4 18:40 enlightenment-0.16.5-14mdk.i586.rpm ~ 10261577 Jul 29 17:09 kde-i18n-fr-3.1.3-1mdk.noarch.rpm E.g. Xemacs is just 20MB, not 100MB, as you said. CD3 - over 10MB is just mandrake-doc, OO help files, some fonts and OMNI print drivers (these are largest - 18MB). So it is not so simple to just pick up few packages you do not use/like and say they are bloat. If any of these were left out, you would get even more people complaining. | I do agree with allot of your points above accept for the server stuff. I use | mandrake for servers and it is invaluable for that but hey I just add what I | want and make it default also so still no foul for me. I need the server stuff too, but I could find it on the Mdk servers in case that I have to download it. On the other hand a semi-newbie in need of kernel headers or source for something like a Nvidia or ATI driver has a problem. He may or may not know about urpmi and network repositories, but he will for sure find some website telling him to install kernel source if he wants to install the drivers, because this is so common task. It is not an ideal solution, but this would be a better compromise than randomly picking things and declaring them "bloat". Jan - -- Jan Ciger VRlab EPFL Switzerland GPG public key : http
[Cooker] [Bug 6165] [rhythmbox] Freeze when adding after delete all
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6165 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-10 18:50 --- Hey, that's what I've tried, no problems. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: When delete all songs in the Library, and try to add another source of songs, the application freeze when click on the ok button of the file dialog. In the console it's put: ** (rhythmbox:7559): WARNING **: FIXME: guard from double entry
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 02:05, Ron Stodden wrote: > Michael Scherer wrote: > > On Saturday 18 October 2003 20:56, Ron Stodden wrote: > >>Michael Scherer wrote: > >>>ok, this maybe a coredump. > >>>can you place it on the web somewhere, so someone with enough > >>> skill to run "file core.5465" can enlighten us with the name of > >>> the crashed program ? > >> > >>http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/download/ (use Save Link > >>Target as) > > > > thanks. > > so according to file, this is : > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael] $ file core.5465 > > core.5465: ELF 32-bit LSB core file Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), > > SVR4-style, SVR4-style, from 'X' > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael] $ gdb -core core.5465 > > Core was generated by `/etc/X11/X :1 -deferglyphs 16'. > > Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. #0 0x4008bd71 in ?? () > > (gdb) > > > > so, this is something with X. > > can you describe the video card ? > > Thanks. Riva TNT2 Model 64. Tnt 2 ? That's a nvidia card, no ? did you use the driver provided by nvidia ? or the one that comes with xfree ? In either case this seems to be a application ( or a driver ) problem beyond the scope of mandrake linux, so you should directly contact the upstream authors. Since they are the developpers, they will be able to use the core provided more efficiently than i am. > >>>you can also put some of the file that filed your hard disk > >>> before. > >> > >>?? > > > > sorry, i meant "that filled" > > the file you were talking about, in /root/, but, i think you > > removed everything... > > As I remember, all files were zero length except for the first two > (neither of which was anything like the 7.2MB size of a core dump), > and all were purged from another partition to release space on / and > its directory, which restored Mandrake operability. Ok, so, unless you find a way to reproduce it easily, i think we are forced to class it. -- Mickaël Scherer
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 07:59 am, guran wrote: > Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie > wants to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: > 1) drivers for graphics > 2) drivers for sound > 3) drivers for java > 4) drivers for realplayer > 5) drivers for flash yes and notice not one reference to emacs in there anywhere. Although as noted in another email most of these can not be distributed freely. Mandrake has to sign distribution contracts with companies for most of these or at least I did to distribute a few things like this. they want to know total distribution over what time period and such even if it is free to distribute and so most of these things can not go onto the free download edition. as noted also this is true for all linux distros. Some companies even charge for the right to redistribute. These are the reasons why you have to pay to get these drivers and things included. Any dostro breaking these things will get in trouble soon enough. Mandrake already got their hands slapped and that is why they are cautious now. Remember the mandrake logo with the magic penguin. The author who did the mandrake the magician got on them for that. I'm, sure mandrake does not want or need anything else like this. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
[Cooker] [Bug 6165] [rhythmbox] Freeze when adding after delete all
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6165 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-10 18:36 --- My system is a 9.1 updated to cooker three weeks ago and to 9.2 this week. To reproduce the bug: 1) Add some files. 2) Select All in Artist and All in Albums. Select all with ctrl+a. 3) Delete it. 4) Add some directory. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: When delete all songs in the Library, and try to add another source of songs, the application freeze when click on the ok button of the file dialog. In the console it's put: ** (rhythmbox:7559): WARNING **: FIXME: guard from double entry
Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 08:25 am, Duncan wrote: > I agree! I even fire up mc in konsole under KDE fairly frequently. It > sure beats Konqueror for speed on a dir with lots of files that Konqueror > want to load the icons for! I even redid its menu, adding a couple custom > urpmi and rpm entries. Now, when urpmi refuses to install the big lot of > stuff selected with an --auto-select, I load mc and point it to the rpms > cache, and try them one by one installing everything that WILL install, > then track down the problems with the remaining ones and see whether I can > safely force them or not. It's definitely easier than typing it all into > the command line a package at a time, when there's a couple hundred to > try. (Of course, a REAL sysadmin would create a script to try each one > individually, but automatically. I haven't gotten that far yet. =:^) well this is more or less what i use it for. I definitely use it just as much of not more than konq and it is also handy to edit config server files over ssh. It's handy having a editor built right in. Real well I more or less consider myself a real sysadmin. I do make money at it. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Am Sonntag, 19. Oktober 2003, 05:27:08 Uhr MET, schrieb Brook Humphrey: > you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows > converts could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be > able to figure out how to use the thing properly. Who's more important, the stupid windows convert, or the developer? If you remove emacs from the CD, you'll scare of the developers. No developers means no new software. BTW it's not emacs that is growing and growing and taking away the CD space but the new generations of GUI software, especially KDE. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"
[Cooker] [Bug 6172] [nautilus] New: Nautilus crashes when deleting last file when in list view
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6172 Product: nautilus Component: program Summary: Nautilus crashes when deleting last file when in list view Product: nautilus Version: 2.4.0-1mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: major Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nautilus is crashing every time when I delete last file when in the list view. After deleting the last file nautilus shows deleted file on the list instead of remaining files, so I can click it and immediately crash nautilus. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Ron Stodden posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 00:27:17 +1000: > -rw---1 root root 7827456 Oct 18 23:35 core.5465 If you don't use core files for debugging, it's probably wise to turn them off. See the ulimit builtin from BASH, and the entry in /etc/profile. Note that the default is no core files, and the profile entry turns them on for root, with a limit of 1,000,000x1024 bytes!! With a 5G /, you are lucky it was only 7.8M, instead of closer to the nearly a gig limit! Here, I commented out that line, so root doesn't create core files either, as all they'd do is waste space. If I happen to be troubleshooting a bug where I've been asked to retain them, I can always change that then. Meanwhile, I don't have to worry about the space they might take. .. Perhaps this default should be changed. People that can use core files should know how to change the setting. However, for the average MSWormOS switcher, the current settings could be an invitation to disaster, particularly as this is set for root, meaning it can eat into the emergency system recovery reserve. I'd say let them remain off by default, but at least limit their size to something more reasonable, say 100M or less! -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 10:35, guran wrote: > Which typr of java am I supposed to install now to get it up and running? The source RPM from jpakcage works very well. Just download and rebuild it. Instructions are on the jpackage site. This is off topic. Austin
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 07:42 am, Jan Ciger wrote: > Hi, > > I was not going to contribute to this flamewar, but why everybody > expects that Linux is used just by Windows converts ? "Windows users > expect this", "Windows users are used to that", blah. Whenever somebody > wants to push his personal agenda, this is the argument - "Windows does > it like this or that !" I am not saying that it is not important but > hey, I am using Linux, because it is more Unix than Windows ! > > Brook, you may think that nobody from Windows converts ever uses Emacs, > that's perhaps true. By the same logic, how many of them will touch Vi > or any of it's clones ? The same for MC - I used Norton Commander and > it's clones (Volkov Commander, Dos Navigator, good old times) in the > past and I use MC as well, but users which started their PC experience > with Windows have no idea what it is and how to use it (FYI, Win95 is 8 > years old already, that is huge amount of time in IT and not everybody > is an old fart as me and you). Nope I never said nobody uses it. It is used mostly by developers which we have quite allot of but the normal every day user will not use it. Period. Yes it is the same for vi and mc. My only point in mentioning them is that they are not 100megs worth of bloat. They maybe reach 5 or 6 megs if they get left out for room my point is that emacs is much larger source of bloat. An amount of space that could be used for other packages to make the desktop users experience more useful. I still role my own cd's because of this. It's very easy to change the rpmsrate so that mc is included when I select console tools. It is also very easy for me to customize my install and not include emacs. For me this is no problem. I leave out emacs, a bunch of games, and anything gnome that is not in main or essential. with this I can include a fair portion of contribs and some custom packages I do and it all comes to 4 1/2 cd's of stuff instead of 9 with all of main and contribs in there and without my custom stuff. you are correct about mc of course but it still is a great tool when your system is having major problems and you need to get in and do some work in rescue mode. I suppose the new contrib package may obsolete this (mklivecd) as then you could have a bootable version of fluxbox or wimea running mandrake on the cd and then do your stuff from there. it would be slower but more pretty to look at. > > On the other hand, packages like Emacs/XEmacs are essential for old-time > Unix users, because that is what they used on Suns and SGI machines they > are migrating from (not everybody switches only from Windows to Linux). > That you do not use it does not mean that nobody uses it. yes possibly but the majority don't use this either. All I'm saying is with all the griping this is definitely not an essential package that needs to go on the first 3 cd's the developers will know hot to get it also they cant be that daft or linux would not be were it is now. > > Personally, I would prefer, that the kernel source was included and some > server packages left out in the main tree or in contribs (the people > going to need them are more likely to find them than a semi-newbie > trying to compile an Nvidia driver), but the line had to be drawn > somewhere. Whining like this will not help :-( > > Jan Nope I was not whining. Somebody else asked were the space was going not me. I've been rolling my own cd's since at least 8.0 or so so I don't really care. It is very easy to rid the distro of fat for me. But somebody else asked were the fat was coming from and I answered him in a frank way. Maybe others don't like to hear it but it is true. I do agree with allot of your points above accept for the server stuff. I use mandrake for servers and it is invaluable for that but hey I just add what I want and make it default also so still no foul for me. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Re: nvidia driver messes up console mode (framebuffer?)
On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 17:54, Bjarne Thomsen wrote: > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 11:41, Juan Quintela wrote: > > Grrr, NVidia cards are just making my life miserable. > > Can people please mail me the output of lspcidrake -v and telling me > > what versions work/don't work for you? > > > I have an MSI FX5200-T64 graphics board. > The main board is MS-6570 (K7N2 Delta-ILSR). > The "galaxy" screensaver eventually freezes X (98% CPU) > for both nvidia 1.0-4191 and 1.0-4496! > I can log onto the system with ssh, but > shutdown does not finish. I have to turn off the > power to get it to boot. It ends up with white stripes > across the console when I try to re-boot. > Now i use 2.4.22-12mdkenterprise, but it was the same > with 2.4.22-10mdkenterprise. I have found that disabling AGP 8X support solves my problem with K7N2 Delta-ILSR. I have now been running the screensaver for many hours without any lock-up of X. (This is with gnome) -- Bjarne -- Bjarne Thomsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Institute of Physics & Astronomy
[Cooker] Re: Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Brook Humphrey posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Sun, 19 Oct 2003 05:27:08 -0700: > AS for mc every sysadmin I show it to uses it. It is way more useful in > the real world than emacs. Especially for system recovery. It is kind of > like an all in one tool for when things go bad. I even use it allot > under normal conditions to install rpm's. Especially when the system is > hosed and there is not other way to install them. I agree! I even fire up mc in konsole under KDE fairly frequently. It sure beats Konqueror for speed on a dir with lots of files that Konqueror want to load the icons for! I even redid its menu, adding a couple custom urpmi and rpm entries. Now, when urpmi refuses to install the big lot of stuff selected with an --auto-select, I load mc and point it to the rpms cache, and try them one by one installing everything that WILL install, then track down the problems with the remaining ones and see whether I can safely force them or not. It's definitely easier than typing it all into the command line a package at a time, when there's a couple hundred to try. (Of course, a REAL sysadmin would create a script to try each one individually, but automatically. I haven't gotten that far yet. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Le dim 19/10/2003 à 16:59, guran a écrit : > Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie wants > to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: > 1)drivers for graphics > 2)drivers for sound > 3)drivers for java > 4)drivers for realplayer > 5)drivers for flash > > To my understanding Mdk has decided that these services should only be at grip > for users that buy packs from Mdk. So any user testing Mdk by downloading the > installation will only find obstacles forced on them by the economic > situation not because Mdk is difficult to use. > I think you may have a problem here. > > You could make a 'HOWTO' that explains this. Java, RealPlayer, flash, Nvidia drivers/plugins etc are not open source software, so one just cannot distribute them on freely available isos, while Mandrakesoft can sign an agreement with their vendor to distribute them in their distribution. And this is true for any Linux distribution. Daniel
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
söndagen den 19 oktober 2003 16.42 skrev Jan Ciger: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brook Humphrey wrote: > | you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows > > converts > > | could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be able to > > figure out > > | how to use the thing properly. AS for mc every sysadmin I show it to > > uses > > | it. It is way more useful in the real world than emacs. Especially for > > system > > | recovery. It is kind of like an all in one tool for when things go bad. I > | even use it allot under normal conditions to install rpm's. Especially > > when > > | the system is hosed and there is not other way to install them. Emacs > > will > > | not do that for me. > > Hi, > > I was not going to contribute to this flamewar, but why everybody > expects that Linux is used just by Windows converts ? "Windows users > expect this", "Windows users are used to that", blah. Whenever somebody > wants to push his personal agenda, this is the argument - "Windows does > it like this or that !" I am not saying that it is not important but > hey, I am using Linux, because it is more Unix than Windows ! > > Brook, you may think that nobody from Windows converts ever uses Emacs, > that's perhaps true. By the same logic, how many of them will touch Vi > or any of it's clones ? The same for MC - I used Norton Commander and > it's clones (Volkov Commander, Dos Navigator, good old times) in the > past and I use MC as well, but users which started their PC experience > with Windows have no idea what it is and how to use it (FYI, Win95 is 8 > years old already, that is huge amount of time in IT and not everybody > is an old fart as me and you). > > On the other hand, packages like Emacs/XEmacs are essential for old-time > Unix users, because that is what they used on Suns and SGI machines they > are migrating from (not everybody switches only from Windows to Linux). > That you do not use it does not mean that nobody uses it. > > Personally, I would prefer, that the kernel source was included and some > server packages left out in the main tree or in contribs (the people > going to need them are more likely to find them than a semi-newbie > trying to compile an Nvidia driver), but the line had to be drawn > somewhere. Whining like this will not help :-( > > Jan Very maturely written, and this points to an estimate for what a newbie wants to function in a testing of Mdk. AFAIK it ought to be: 1) drivers for graphics 2) drivers for sound 3) drivers for java 4) drivers for realplayer 5) drivers for flash To my understanding Mdk has decided that these services should only be at grip for users that buy packs from Mdk. So any user testing Mdk by downloading the installation will only find obstacles forced on them by the economic situation not because Mdk is difficult to use. I think you may have a problem here. You could make a 'HOWTO' that explains this. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] [Bug 5917] [Hardware] Mandrake does not load on Machines without floppy drive
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5917 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-10 16:43 --- Good to know that kernel-2.4.22-12.tmb.1mdk works, anyway if you want to keep with the original kernel (or let's say you want to use kernel-multimedia), here are two quick fixes that do the job (choose the one you prefer): 1) rm /lib/modules/2.4.22-10mdk/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.o.gz ; depmod -a 2) recompile your kernel specifying "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=n" (normal floppy disk support) Mandrake Control Center now works flawlessly (see comment #13). NB: I still have commented floppy entries in /etc/modules.devfs, don't know if with original /etc/modules.devfs still works (even if I suppose it does). -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEW creation_date: description: Hello, Following bug 4945 and 5877 and thanks to the help of ricksafe.casablanca, it appears that Mandrake Linux does not load on machines with no parellel port when acpi=on. On such machines harddrake always crashes during boot and if harddrake is disabled, the user cannot log on. The fix that was proposed is to remove the lines concerning the parallel port in /etc/modules.devfs. This allows to log in. However, the harddrake service still fails (and hangs the computer). I have tested this on two machines (laptop with no floppy and desktop computer with LS-120). On these machines, neither lspcidrake, not cat /pro/pci hang the computer (with the fix above). Emmanuel
Re: [Cooker] Torrent ha ha ha.
On Sunday October 19 2003 01:36 am, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: > On Sunday 19 October 2003 01:57 am, Brad Felmey wrote: > > > Thanks to all of you leaving your torrents turned on. > > > > I got mine at 1.5Mbit in about 4 hours, and have been uploading > > a steady 768Kbit for the last four days. Gonna leave it up > > until it tapers off. > > Mine is running at the office, will leave it up this week. > Steady upload traffic, but not nearly what i was expecting, only > about 12K / sec. V. My ADSL is 1.5Mbit down, 128Kbit up. 1.5Mbit = 187KB/s theoretically, but 150KB is what I usually get. 128Kbit = 15.7KB/s, but 12 to 13KB/s is the norm for me. I'm usin 8 bits per byte, tho I think acks, nacks and such and eat some more bits up (?), to try'n convert rated DSL bit speeds to actual kilo bytes. I got the iso's in about 12 hours last Wednesday. To get any d/l speed tho, I had to limit upload to 6KB/s till my iso's were complete. Since then I've taken the limit off and let it upload at 12 to 13KB/s. And will do so thru next week or longer depending on http://torrent.mandrakesoft.com:6969/ stats. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brook Humphrey wrote: | you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows converts | could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be able to figure out | how to use the thing properly. AS for mc every sysadmin I show it to uses | it. It is way more useful in the real world than emacs. Especially for system | recovery. It is kind of like an all in one tool for when things go bad. I | even use it allot under normal conditions to install rpm's. Especially when | the system is hosed and there is not other way to install them. Emacs will | not do that for me. Hi, I was not going to contribute to this flamewar, but why everybody expects that Linux is used just by Windows converts ? "Windows users expect this", "Windows users are used to that", blah. Whenever somebody wants to push his personal agenda, this is the argument - "Windows does it like this or that !" I am not saying that it is not important but hey, I am using Linux, because it is more Unix than Windows ! Brook, you may think that nobody from Windows converts ever uses Emacs, that's perhaps true. By the same logic, how many of them will touch Vi or any of it's clones ? The same for MC - I used Norton Commander and it's clones (Volkov Commander, Dos Navigator, good old times) in the past and I use MC as well, but users which started their PC experience with Windows have no idea what it is and how to use it (FYI, Win95 is 8 years old already, that is huge amount of time in IT and not everybody is an old fart as me and you). On the other hand, packages like Emacs/XEmacs are essential for old-time Unix users, because that is what they used on Suns and SGI machines they are migrating from (not everybody switches only from Windows to Linux). That you do not use it does not mean that nobody uses it. Personally, I would prefer, that the kernel source was included and some server packages left out in the main tree or in contribs (the people going to need them are more likely to find them than a semi-newbie trying to compile an Nvidia driver), but the line had to be drawn somewhere. Whining like this will not help :-( Jan - -- Jan Ciger VRlab EPFL Switzerland GPG public key : http://www.keyserver.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/kqLtn11XseNj94gRAnRWAJ92I+RTY4qdk4plQv6WuEt9o29EnwCeMqwx fnFq+WB5nSgK3Nlsz2UvyRk= =Lkzr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
söndagen den 19 oktober 2003 16.07 skrev Guillaume Rousse: > Ainsi parlait John Allen : > > Ron Stodden wrote: > > > Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS.free]$ LANGUAGE=C rpm -qip > > >> ant-1.5.4-2jpp.noarch.rpm > > >> Name: ant Relocations: (not > > >> relocateable) > > > > [snipped] > > > > > Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download > > > edition installed jaffe for me ... > > > > You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub > > Unfortunatly, it is not jpakage aware, meaning alternatives won't be there. Ok I have got ant*'s installed after installing jpackage-utils xerces* xml-commons* Which typr of java am I supposed to install now to get it up and running? regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
Ainsi parlait John Allen : > Ron Stodden wrote: > > Guillaume Rousse wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS.free]$ LANGUAGE=C rpm -qip > >> ant-1.5.4-2jpp.noarch.rpm > >> Name: ant Relocations: (not > >> relocateable) > > [snipped] > > > Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download > > edition installed jaffe for me ... > > You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub Unfortunatly, it is not jpakage aware, meaning alternatives won't be there. I hope in the future we should be able to merge those packages, but currently, i'd rather advise to build jdk packages from jpp nosrc.rpm. -- Guillaume Rousse If it moves, salute it; if it doesn't move, pick it up; if you can't pick it up, paint it -- Murphy's Military Laws n°4
Re: [Cooker] OT: anyone test8 or recent -mm with initrd ?
> Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 16:13, Svetoslav Slavtchev a écrit : > > Hi , > > the sebject tells it almost all, > > > > with 2.6.0-test8 everything seems OK until i try to boot it :( > You need to undo a patch / changeset ( cf > http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5/[EMAIL PROTECTED]|Ch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ) to make initrd to work. thanks :-) but nope that worked, but better solution is available check lkml "test8 initrd" search, to get the patch it was devfs issue the sad thing is that under test8 i can not reach any web site, ftp, ssh work OK, but http doesn't seem to work :( pretty strange, not ? svetljo PS. anyone having supermount for test[6,7,8] the last available is for test5 but in test6 there were changes in the fs option parsing -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
Re: [Cooker] OT: anyone test8 or recent -mm with initrd ?
Le Samedi 18 Octobre 2003 16:13, Svetoslav Slavtchev a écrit : > Hi , > the sebject tells it almost all, > > with 2.6.0-test8 everything seems OK until i try to boot it :( You need to undo a patch / changeset ( cf http://linux.bkbits.net:8080/linux-2.5/[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) to make initrd to work. > upon boot the kernel can not mount the "/" fs > > everything was OK until test7bk8, but between test7bk8 & test8 > there were some initrd changes ( which acording to lkml were in -mm > for at least 2-3 weeks without complains) > > anyone having hints ? > > svetljo BYe Laurent
[Cooker] [Bug 6171] [rpmdrake] New: Some packages exist in the "choose packages" list, but doesn't in the ISOs.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6171 Product: rpmdrake Component: packaging Summary: Some packages exist in the "choose packages" list, but doesn't in the ISOs. Product: rpmdrake Version: 2.1-35mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: packaging AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use Mandrake Linux 9.2 PowerPack edition. Many packages are missing in 3 ISOs, but appear in the "choose single software package" list. For example, I find that kde-i18n-zh_CN in the list and I choose it. But, after installed the system, I cannot choose Chinese Simplified to use. Then I checked all of the 3 CDs, but to my surprise, I cannot find any package named kde-i18n-zh_CN. I don't know why you add an inexistent package to "choose single software package" list. This bug is serious, you must fix this bug before releasing commercial version. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6170] [Installation] New: Some packages exist in the "choose packages" list, but doesn't in the ISOs.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6170 Product: Installation Component: Installation Summary: Some packages exist in the "choose packages" list, but doesn't in the ISOs. Product: Installation Version: 1.847 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: Installation AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use Mandrake Linux 9.2 PowerPack edition. many packages are missing in 3 ISOs, but appear in the "choose single software package" list. For example, I find that kde-i18n-zh_CN in the list and I choose it. But, after installed the system, I cannot choose Chinese Simplified to use. So I checked all of the 3 CDs, but to my surprise, I cannot find any package named kde-i18n-zh_CN. I don't know why you add an inexistent package to "choose single software package" list. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
[Cooker] [Bug 6169] [miniChinput] New: Cannot launch miniChinput
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6169 Product: miniChinput Component: program Summary: Cannot launch miniChinput Product: miniChinput Version: 0.1.9-2mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority: P2 Component: program AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This bug exists in Mandrake Linux 9.2 download edition. Chinese input bugs. Some Chinese users find that they cannot use miniChinput which is in the 9.2 CDs to input Chinese. And an easy way to solve this bug is find: modify "~/.qt/qtrc", under the "[general]", you'll find "XIMInputStyle=On The Spot", change it to "XIMInputStyle=Over The Spot", and it will be all right. I don't know why MandrakeSoft's developer choose "XIMInputStyle=On The Spot" as default. It is easy to fix the bug, but will stop many newbie to use Mandrake. I hope you will fix the bug soon. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
Ron Stodden wrote: Guillaume Rousse wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS.free]$ LANGUAGE=C rpm -qip ant-1.5.4-2jpp.noarch.rpm Name: ant Relocations: (not relocateable) [snipped] Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download edition installed jaffe for me ... You can get the Sun j2sdk/j2re from MandrakeClub
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
Guillaume Rousse wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS.free]$ LANGUAGE=C rpm -qip ant-1.5.4-2jpp.noarch.rpm Name: ant Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.5.4 Vendor: JPackage Project Release : 2jpp Build Date: mer 13 aoû 2003 12:23:42 CEST Install date: (not installed) Build Host: shitake.truemesh.com Group : Development/Build Tools Source RPM: ant-1.5.4-2jpp.src.rpm Size: 846189 License: Apache Software License Packager: Paul Nasrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://ant.apache.org/ Summary : Ant build tool for java Description : Ant is a platform-independent build tool for java. It's used by apache jakarta and xml projects. BTW, if you don't know what is it, you don't need it... Thanks! I will investigate ant some more.The 9.2 download edition installed jaffe for me ... -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/<--- Changed 19th October!
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
Ainsi parlait guran : > söndagen den 19 oktober 2003 13.34 skrev Guillaume Rousse: > > Ainsi parlait Ron Stodden : > > > But nowhere from MandrakeSoft do I see any indication whether 9.2 as > > > installed includes Java support and if not what are the recommended > > > RPMs to add Java support. > > > > There is a wiki available for the communauty. Feel free to supply any > > necessary explanation there instead of whining after MandrakeSoft. > > Will you please give the URL and try to explain what is needed to belong to > the "communauty". To post on cooker is usually enough to claim being part of mandrake communauty :-) For the wiki, it is available at http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki, and you need to ask an account to warly if you want to contribute. -- Guillaume Rousse A man can be happy with any woman as long as he doesn't love her -- Murphy's Laws on Sex n°46
Re: [Cooker] Help - Can't Install 9.2!!!
From: "Warly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > magic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > P.S. > > > >Oh yea, I still can't post bugs on qa.mandrakesoft.com... > > > >(If someone would be so kind.) > > I will have a look, do you by chance try to post with IE? > I haven't had any problems posting with IE... Regards Thomas
Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
On Sunday 19 October 2003 01:29 am, David Walser wrote: > Brook Humphrey wrote: > >> Ouch. What's taking so much space? > > > > stupid emacs and xemacs and all the assorted packages. No real users use > > these > > Well you can't not have emacs, but I agree we could ditch xemacs. The only > reason for ever having it was syntax highlighting in the nice GUI, and > regular emacs has had syntax highlight support even in the console since > 21.1, so there's no reason to even use a GUI now. > > > out there it is more of a developer odity (as not all developers use this > > thing either). Not only that but truly useful packages such as midnight > > commander (when I select console tools) and gvim are not even installed. > > I'm > > LOL, those are the oddities. I guarantee those have significantly fewer > users. > > > not sure if they are even on the cd's as I havn't even managed to get > > them downloaded yet and am still using my custom cd's from cooker after > > it was frozen for the cd's. These two are only about 5 or 6 megs together > > at the most compared to probably close to 100 megs for emacs including > > all it's assorted packages. > > > > I am not a vim versus emacs person really but I do have a few 150 meg > > text files I open and read at times and vim is the only thing under linux > > that even manages to open the file relatively well. Everything else gets > > dicy at about 80megs. Emacs wont even begin to touch the thing. The only > > other program i have found to open it with is a little windows text > > editor that is not free. I think it was texedit. > > Did you try the MS-DOS Editor? you are very sadly mistaken here. The majority or regular windows converts could care less about about emacs. Much less would they be able to figure out how to use the thing properly. AS for mc every sysadmin I show it to uses it. It is way more useful in the real world than emacs. Especially for system recovery. It is kind of like an all in one tool for when things go bad. I even use it allot under normal conditions to install rpm's. Especially when the system is hosed and there is not other way to install them. Emacs will not do that for me. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
söndagen den 19 oktober 2003 13.34 skrev Guillaume Rousse: > Ainsi parlait Ron Stodden : > > But nowhere from MandrakeSoft do I see any indication whether 9.2 as > > installed includes Java support and if not what are the recommended RPMs > > to add Java support. > > There is a wiki available for the communauty. Feel free to supply any > necessary explanation there instead of whining after MandrakeSoft. Will you please give the URL and try to explain what is needed to belong to the "communauty". regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.10mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result of the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] [Bug 5244] [lisa] Lisa bombards the net with packets
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5244 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-10 13:43 --- Zeb, I can't fix the package (only Laurent can upload KDE packages), I merely provided the fixed script. There is nothing more I an do. Use the script here to fix it. I will take this issue up on the maintainers list, maybe we can have an errata at least if Laurent won't fix it. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: I have the LAN at 10.0.0.0/8. tcpdump shows that the lisa tries to do an ARP request for probably all addresses in the network and literally bombards the net with packets. I don't know what this might cause on a large network. To add to this it continues these probes even after the LAN interface goes down. This can also result in a costly problem. The following happened to me: - I configured my notebook for GPRS over bluetooth - I removed the LAN card from my notebook so it does not interfere with the experiments - I brought a PPP connection up - The defaultroute was set to ppp0 - The lisa continued to send packets - They all travelled to the phone, generating paid traffic :-( The distribution is Mandrake 9.2 Beta 2 Proposed resolution: don't enable the server by default and document this problem somewhere
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
Ainsi parlait Ron Stodden : > But nowhere from MandrakeSoft do I see any indication whether 9.2 as > installed includes Java support and if not what are the recommended RPMs > to add Java support. There is a wiki available for the communauty. Feel free to supply any necessary explanation there instead of whining after MandrakeSoft. > >>What is the modus operandum necessary for us to make use of appropriate > >>ones of these RPMs to achieve Java operability in Mandrake 9.2? > >> > >>Whats' it all about, please? > >> > >>Is this directory a new medium (NOT ?media?! ugh!) for urpmi? If > >>so, what do we install? > > > > check the url > > I suspect the answer should have been ¨Yes¨, but none of the jpackage > RPMs include any summary text in their RPM, so how are we to know what > each is and whether we might need it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] RPMS.free]$ LANGUAGE=C rpm -qip ant-1.5.4-2jpp.noarch.rpm Name: ant Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.5.4 Vendor: JPackage Project Release : 2jpp Build Date: mer 13 aoû 2003 12:23:42 CEST Install date: (not installed) Build Host: shitake.truemesh.com Group : Development/Build Tools Source RPM: ant-1.5.4-2jpp.src.rpm Size: 846189 License: Apache Software License Packager: Paul Nasrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://ant.apache.org/ Summary : Ant build tool for java Description : Ant is a platform-independent build tool for java. It's used by apache jakarta and xml projects. BTW, if you don't know what is it, you don't need it... -- Guillaume Rousse Machines that have broken down will work perfectly when the repairman arrives -- Murphy's Laws on Work n°31
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
> Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote:
>>>The new 9.2 contribs jpackage directory, specifically:
>>>
>>>rsync rsync://ftp.sunet.se:873/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/jpackage/i586/
>>>
>>>contains 415 noarch RPMs of the form:
>>>
>>>adaptx-0.9.6-1jpp.noarch.rpm
>>>
>>>placed there by the JPackage (David Walluck) project.
David Walluck is just one of the contributors, Guillaume Rousse is also a
large contributor.
>>>What is this JPackage project?
>>
>> J[ava related] Packages :-)
>
> How clever you are! (NOT!)
??? You asked the question. It's really polite to be sarcastic to someone
who answered it (NOT!).
>>>Does it have a web site and mailing lists?
>>
>> have you tried http://jpackage.org ?
>
> Yes - it appears that the new 9.2/contribs/jpackage tree is a list of
> some 415 available Java applications, which is a great idea!
>
> But nowhere from MandrakeSoft do I see any indication whether 9.2 as
> installed includes Java support and if not what are the recommended RPMs
> to add Java support.
Mandrake has shipped with Java support for a long time. Just not in the
download edition. you will notice from the comparison page
(http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/92/comparison) that only ProSuite
ships with JPackage, and I would guess it ships with jpackage-compatible
java packages. However, it doesn't seem the packages on Club are suitable
(http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/9.2/i586/j2re-1.4.2_01-1mdk.i586.html).
Anyway, JPackage packages really want to be used with JPackage-compatible
Java RPMs, so you may want to try rebuilding one of the .nosrc.rpm's (I
hope this isn't necessary on ProSuite).
You will also notice (on the same page) all the commercial releases ship
with j2re/j2sdk packages.
>
>>>What is the modus operandum necessary for us to make use of
>>> appropriate ones of these RPMs to achieve Java operability in
>>> Mandrake 9.2?
Either use the Java packages from the Club, or from one of the boxed sets,
and then use urpmi
>>>
>>>Whats' it all about, please?
>>>
>>>Is this directory a new medium (NOT ?media?! ugh!) for urpmi? If
>>> so, what do we install?
>>
Whatever you want. Maybe you have heard of projects like JEdit, Eclipse,
tomcat, ant etc. If you want to install them, you most likely already know
what they are.
>>
>> check the url
>
> I suspect the answer should have been ¨Yes¨, but none of the jpackage
> RPMs include any summary text in their RPM, so how are we to know what
> each is and whether we might need it?
Are you sure you checked them all??? I think you must have missed at least
a few ... it looks like on average they have about 3 lines of desciption
each:
$ rpm -qp --qf "%{DESCRIPTION}\n" contrib/jpackage/RPMS/*.rpm|wc -l
1136
$ ls contrib/jpackage/RPMS/*.rpm|wc -l
389
Of course, if you want better descriptions, I am sure JPackage will take
patches ...
Regards,
Buchan
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
> Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: >>>The new 9.2 contribs jpackage directory, specifically: >>> >>>rsync rsync://ftp.sunet.se:873/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/jpackage/i586/ >>> >>>contains 415 noarch RPMs of the form: >>> >>>adaptx-0.9.6-1jpp.noarch.rpm >>> >>>placed there by the JPackage (David Walluck) project. David Walluck is just one of the contributors, Guillaume Rousse is also a large contributor. >>>What is this JPackage project? >> >> J[ava related] Packages :-) > > How clever you are! (NOT!) ??? You asked the question. It's really polite to be sarcastic to someone who answered it (NOT!). >>>Does it have a web site and mailing lists? >> >> have you tried http://jpackage.org ? > > Yes - it appears that the new 9.2/contribs/jpackage tree is a list of > some 415 available Java applications, which is a great idea! > > But nowhere from MandrakeSoft do I see any indication whether 9.2 as > installed includes Java support and if not what are the recommended RPMs > to add Java support. Mandrake has shipped with Java support for a long time. Just not in the download edition. you will notice from the comparison page (http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/92/comparison) that only ProSuite ships with JPackage, and I would guess it ships with jpackage-compatible java packages. However, it doesn't seem the packages on Club are suitable (http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/9.2/i586/j2re-1.4.2_01-1mdk.i586.html). Anyway, JPackage packages really want to be used with JPackage-compatible Java RPMs, so you may want to try rebuilding one of the .nosrc.rpm's (I hope this isn't necessary on ProSuite). You will also notice (on the same page) all the commercial releases ship with j2re/j2sdk packages. > >>>What is the modus operandum necessary for us to make use of >>> appropriate ones of these RPMs to achieve Java operability in >>> Mandrake 9.2? Either use the Java packages from the Club, or from one of the boxed sets, and then use urpmi >>> >>>Whats' it all about, please? >>> >>>Is this directory a new medium (NOT ?media?! ugh!) for urpmi? If >>> so, what do we install? >> Whatever you want. Maybe you have heard of projects like JEdit, Eclipse, tomcat, ant etc. If you want to install them, you most likely already know what they are. >> >> check the url > > I suspect the answer should have been ¨Yes¨, but none of the jpackage > RPMs include any summary text in their RPM, so how are we to know what > each is and whether we might need it? Are you sure you checked them all??? I think you must have missed at least a few ... it looks like on average they have about 3 lines of desciption each: Of course, if you want better descriptions, I am sure JPackage will take patches ... Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] Torrent ha ha ha.
Le Dimanche 19 Octobre 2003 04:26, Brook Humphrey a écrit : > Ok I need to say this. I always get really cruddy torrent speed and > everybody says punch a hole in you firewall which I have not and will not > do. Torrent works fine on my end without messing with the firewall. However > i always get speeds of like 6k and below for about the first week. Now > after a few days I'm getting it at like 50k a second and will have the last > 50% downloaded in just about 6 hours. That is compared to about 4 or 5 days > to get the first 50%. I have not changed any config options at all. The > outgoing I have not caped and it has been consistent around 8k or so for > the last week even though i was not really getting anything in at all. > > Thanks to all of you leaving your torrents turned on. I had the same problem with a decreasing dowloload speed rate. To solve it, open your firewall ! Why ? I'll try to explain. First, use download/bittorrent-shadowsclient-5.8.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm from http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/test/9.1/i586/BByName.html It replace the old bitttorrent and shows the torrent with a click on "Advanced". Don't hesitate to use it. When starting a download, bittorrent opens ~20 links which can upload or download few k/s (often 2 or 4ks). The sum of them can reach your maximum bandwith. Each link uses a different port. If you open the window "Advanced", you can see in the third column LocalRemote that all the links are "L" like local. This is because they was initiated locally. The firewall (or shorewall) accepts links of any port initiated locally. Few time later, the column shows "L" and "R" links. The R links are Remote links, initiated from outside. If the firewall is not opened for ports 6881..6999, never appears. With hours, the number of "L" decreases and number of "R" increases. Now, only upload works at 13k/s (download is finished for 48h) and I have 38 peers : 34 R and 4 L. If you don't open your firewall, you can understand why the DL rate is low! How-to open the port ? Edit /etc/shorewall/rules and add at the end ACCEPT net fw tcp 6881:6999 # shorewall restart I hope it helps... -- Pierre Jarillon - http://pjarillon.free.fr/ Vice-président de l'ABUL : http://abul.org/
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
Svetoslav Slavtchev wrote: The new 9.2 contribs jpackage directory, specifically: rsync rsync://ftp.sunet.se:873/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/jpackage/i586/ contains 415 noarch RPMs of the form: adaptx-0.9.6-1jpp.noarch.rpm placed there by the JPackage (David Walluck) project. What is this JPackage project? J[ava related] Packages :-) How clever you are! (NOT!) Does it have a web site and mailing lists? have you tried http://jpackage.org ? Yes - it appears that the new 9.2/contribs/jpackage tree is a list of some 415 available Java applications, which is a great idea! But nowhere from MandrakeSoft do I see any indication whether 9.2 as installed includes Java support and if not what are the recommended RPMs to add Java support. What is the modus operandum necessary for us to make use of appropriate ones of these RPMs to achieve Java operability in Mandrake 9.2? Whats' it all about, please? Is this directory a new medium (NOT ?media?! ugh!) for urpmi? If so, what do we install? check the url I suspect the answer should have been ¨Yes¨, but none of the jpackage RPMs include any summary text in their RPM, so how are we to know what each is and whether we might need it? -- Ron. [Melbourne, Australia] "If you keep a green bough in your heart, the singing bird will come" Get Fastest Mandrake downloader, English-only, from: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ronst/<--- Changed 19th October!
[Cooker] kenobi is down
Hi, The movie had a sad ending for our beloved obi-one. But in real live he can be revived. Could someone push his reset button? # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Re: [Cooker] The JPackage Project.
> The new 9.2 contribs jpackage directory, specifically: > > rsync rsync://ftp.sunet.se:873/Mandrake/9.2/contrib/jpackage/i586/ > > contains 415 noarch RPMs of the form: > > adaptx-0.9.6-1jpp.noarch.rpm > > placed there by the JPackage (David Walluck) project. > > What is this JPackage project? J[ava related] Packages :-) > Does it have a web site and mailing lists? have you tried http://jpackage.org ? > What is the modus operandum necessary for us to make use of appropriate > ones of these RPMs to achieve Java operability in Mandrake 9.2? > > Whats' it all about, please? > > Is this directory a new medium (NOT ?media?! ugh!) for urpmi? If > so, what do we install? check the url svetljo -- NEU FÜR ALLE - GMX MediaCenter - für Fotos, Musik, Dateien... Fotoalbum, File Sharing, MMS, Multimedia-Gruß, GMX FotoService Jetzt kostenlos anmelden unter http://www.gmx.net +++ GMX - die erste Adresse für Mail, Message, More! +++
[Cooker] [Bug 6168] [fluxbox] Fluxbox menu entries appear in menus of other window managers
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-19-10 11:08 --- Of course your `fix' breaks the fluxbox menu. But I found something better. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: The two menu entries added in the last package of fluxbox added the menu entries to all of the wm menus, not just fluxbox. So for instance, Fluxbox => run was showing up in KDE. Caused by entries in fluxbox-menu patch defined needs as x11 instead of fluxbox. Here is a patch to fix. --- fluxbox-menu2003-09-26 16:18:12.0 -0400 +++ fluxbox-menu.fix2003-10-18 22:51:56.0 -0400 @@ -54,14 +54,14 @@ icon="fluxbox.png" \ command="exit" -?package(fluxbox):needs=x11 \ +?package(fluxbox):needs=fluxbox \ section="Fluxbox" \ title="Reload Menus" \ longtitle="Regenerate Menus when you installed new software" \ icon="menudrake.png" \ command="/usr/bin/update-menus" -?package(fluxbox):needs=x11 \ +?package(fluxbox):needs=fluxbox \ section="Fluxbox" \ title="Run" \ longtitle="Start an application" \
Re: [Cooker] OT - RPM question...
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 10:43:49PM -0400, Scott Chevalley wrote: I've been updating my box using urpmi --auto-select for at least the past two or three release cycles, constantly running cooker. I'm wondering if there is anyway to use urpmi or rpm to give me a list of files that exist on my system that don't belong to any installed packages, so I can clean things up a little bit. i use find / -print0 | xargs -0 rpm -qf | grep '^file .* is not owned by any package$' -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media & Services S.r.l. /"\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
[Cooker] Re: 9.2 disasters list (continuing)
Brook Humphrey wrote: >> Ouch. What's taking so much space? > > stupid emacs and xemacs and all the assorted packages. No real users use these Well you can't not have emacs, but I agree we could ditch xemacs. The only reason for ever having it was syntax highlighting in the nice GUI, and regular emacs has had syntax highlight support even in the console since 21.1, so there's no reason to even use a GUI now. > out there it is more of a developer odity (as not all developers use this > thing either). Not only that but truly useful packages such as midnight > commander (when I select console tools) and gvim are not even installed. I'm LOL, those are the oddities. I guarantee those have significantly fewer users. > not sure if they are even on the cd's as I havn't even managed to get them > downloaded yet and am still using my custom cd's from cooker after it was > frozen for the cd's. These two are only about 5 or 6 megs together at the > most compared to probably close to 100 megs for emacs including all it's > assorted packages. > > I am not a vim versus emacs person really but I do have a few 150 meg text > files I open and read at times and vim is the only thing under linux that > even manages to open the file relatively well. Everything else gets dicy at > about 80megs. Emacs wont even begin to touch the thing. The only other > program i have found to open it with is a little windows text editor that is > not free. I think it was texedit. Did you try the MS-DOS Editor?
