[Cooker] usb devices
Hi I have tried to install 7.2beta-1 with a USB mouse and a USB iomega ZIP 250. During installation, my USB devices are recognized correctly (the mouse does not work however, but it works after installation). For the Zip drive, a /mnt/zip is created, and in fstab an entry with /dev/sda4, supermount, is created. The problem is that i have no access to my drive (i/o error). Is it due to the presence of both USB mouse and zip ? How can i test whether the device /dev/sda4 is the good one ? Eric Fernandez-Bellot CNRS-CGM Gif-sur-Yvette, France
Re: [Cooker] usb devices
Hi I have tried to install 7.2beta-1 with a USB mouse and a USB iomega ZIP 250. During installation, my USB devices are recognized correctly (the mouse does not work however, but it works after installation). For the Zip drive, a /mnt/zip is created, and in fstab an entry with /dev/sda4, supermount, is created. The problem is that i have no access to my drive (i/o error). Is it due to the presence of both USB mouse and zip ? How can i test whether the device /dev/sda4 is the good one ? what verson of initscripts ? I have updated initscripts with the 12 September 2000 version on cooker (i do not have access to my machine for the moment, i do not have access to the version number)
Re: [Cooker] upgrade from 7 to 7.1
You're right. I never installed nor 7.0 in graphical mode. Must be a text_install because I couldn't skip the SCSI detecting proc. and it must be. I haven't any SCSI ! So,now with the 7.1 install also the text_install doesn't work at all. There must be an availability to skip SCSI detecting in the install. Or better the question 'do you have an SCSI' as in the text_install with 7.0. Now for me there is no way to install a 7.1 Mandrake distrib. This with SIMPLE IDE HD's. Eric MC David Dennis wrote: FWIW, I know what error he's talking about. it is repeatable if one upgrades from the 2.2.14 / bootnet.img that appeared under 7.0, to the 2.2.16 / bootnet.img that appeared in 7.1 . specifically, if one uses bootnet.img .The kernel versions probably aren't the issue, it's the MDK install suite, that was highly robust in 2.2.14 (and briefly in 2.2.16, 7.0) really was not as unbreakable under 2.2.16, 7.1 . what will happen is in the install, which grphically changed from 7.0 to 7.1, it will no longer query if one has SCSI under 'certain' configurations. in my case, i had hda but did not boot to hda, as that was a legacy system. with 7.0 i had built a system booting to sda. under 7.1 upgrade, it was no longer querying if scsi support was wanted -- and oops bummer oh dear -- didn't redo lilo to recognize non scsi . so i was left with unbootable. this will not be noticed if one is ide only, but if one is attempting to boot from SCSI it will lead to huge problems. my own workaround was to repart the IDE disk and boot from that, then mount the rest under SCSI once a base system was built. but not all would have that option. I know in my case it turned what would have been a 1 hr upgrade into an all-day ordeal. FWIW II, the SCSI support was AHA1542, perhaps this would not be a problem with less legacy support. then again, not everyone is purchasing a VA 2940 every time they install a new linux system. Regrettably. :) Dave Dennis Seattle, WA [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Eric MC.D wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:56:27 +0200 From: Eric MC.D [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] upgrade from 7 to 7.1 Hello cooker, Can't upgrade because there is no more asked if there is a SCSI on the system. So at detecting my HD's the system blocked. My HD's are IDE LBA mode. What can I do ?? Nothing helps in text or graphical mode ! Eric MC
Re: [Cooker] QTCUPS now on Cooker!
When lauching qtcups an error occurs as: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libqtcups.so.1: undefined symbol: sizeHint_X7QDialog Eric MC Till Kamppeter wrote: Oi, on friday appeared the CUPS printing frontend QTCUPS as version 1.0, now it is on Cooker. Home page: http://cups.sourceforge.net/qtcups/index.html It supports all features of CUPS and most of the printer options are illustrated by icons so that the user sees immediately what the appropriate option means. Except being a printing frontend, which can be called instead of "lp" or "lpr" at the command line or out of applications, QTCUPS is also a library containing the QCUPSPrinter QT class which can replace the QPrinter QT class, so that one can easily adapt QT or KDE applications to use CUPS natively. Till Packages: qtcups-1.0-1mdk.src.rpm qtcups-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm qtcups-devel-1.0-1mdk.i586.rpm
[Cooker] upgrade from 7 to 7.1
Hello cooker, Can't upgrade because there is no more asked if there is a SCSI on the system. So at detecting my HD's the system blocked. My HD's are IDE LBA mode. What can I do ?? Nothing helps in text or graphical mode ! Eric MC
Re: [Cooker] Lilo - Grub Problem
Pedro Rosa wrote: Ellick Chan wrote: On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, David Delyn wrote: Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 19:04:35 +0930 From: David Delyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Lilo - Grub Problem Hi Perhaps one of your programmers can find the solution to this problem, it's one i find myself fixing for Newbies, not that I'm much more than a Newbie myself. users a lot of grief. BOL :-) dcd I found that Lilo tends to flop on a lot of things, including if the kernel is on a sector 1024, or it is on another hd. The best solution I found to this is copy the kernel to a dos partition, and use loadlin. Good choice. Now download the latest LILO .. rpm and you can install it. If you like it. If your HD is an LBA, in all cases no pb with this 1024st cylinder. Eric MC This 1024 problem seems to have been corrected very recently. Freshmeat announcement on version 21.5: "(...)Lilo is capable of booting beyond cylinder 1024 of a hard disk if the BIOS supports EDD packet call extensions to the int 0x13 interface." Meanwhile I think that you should try grub. At first sight it is quite unfamiliar as it presents paramaeters common to other systems (hd's are numbered from 0 to ...) and command syntaxis is quite weird. However grub possesses several + in relation to lilo. It is OS independent. It has a interface system where you can give operate things before booting into the OS. It has a small group of commands and it does not need to know the exact location of the kernel. Yes, for most users this stuff is quite hard to work with. But I think it deserves a look. -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 21
Re: [Cooker] autoconf-2.14.1-9mdk
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Reinhard Katzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] The tse3 is a package needed by noteedit ! it's in .tar format not from mandrake. The config.h.in in this package mentio. a PACKAGE and VERSION but it also need this from autoconfig (acconfig.h). So when I added it to acconfig.h all builds as a charm,=20 without it nothing to do. So apparantly some packages needs PACKAGE and VERSION in acconfig.h to compile. Eric MC I have written a spec file for ts3, which I did not yet post because I wait for feedback from Lenny, if noteedit may be integrated or not. I have not changed acconfig.h in this package but I'll do it before I post the spec (and the patch). arg. did you read my previous posts? I did. the 0.0.7 does *not* need a patch to acconfig.h Sorry on MY box it needed. (mkd 7) So I did. And always runs ok. I'll do it not over again to certify. Eric MC -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] Re: Undeliverable: Re: [expert] hello???
System Administrator wrote: Your message To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] hello??? Sent:Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:27:15 +0100 did not reach the following recipient(s): [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 15 Aug 2000 03:46:08 +0100 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=NTDOMAIN1;l=NTSERVER10008150246QXLLCK9F MSEXCH:IMS:NTDOMAIN1:NTSERVER1:NTSERVER1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient Subject: Re: [expert] hello??? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:27:15 +0100 From: "Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is going ??? Several messages returned :-( Eric MC To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have this pb too. And also to the newbie list. Eric MC Mark Weaver wrote: CAn someone tell me why my message are being sent back as undeliverable when they're sent to this list? -- Mark Weaver IT Dept./Reapernet.com Destiny Image Publishers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] autoconf-2.14.1-9mdk
Reinhard Katzmann wrote:
Hi!
On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 05:35:36PM +0200, Eric MC.D wrote:
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
"Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
"Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So please add on acconfig.h:
Can you send the SRPM for investigation? I do not see any tse* packages in
our distribution.
The tse3 is a package needed by noteedit ! it's in .tar
format
not from mandrake.
The config.h.in in this package mentio. a PACKAGE and
VERSION
but it also need this from autoconfig (acconfig.h).
So when I added it to acconfig.h all builds as a charm,
without it nothing to do.
So apparantly some packages needs PACKAGE and VERSION in
acconfig.h to compile.
Eric MC
I have written a spec file for ts3, which I did not yet post
because I wait for feedback from Lenny, if noteedit may be
I hope so, great prog.
integrated or not. I have not changed acconfig.h in this package
but I'll do it before I post the spec (and the patch).
Guillaume Cottenceau don't believe me when I said that
#undef PACKAGE and ..VERSION must be added to acconfig.h
(from
the autoconfig package) to compile tse3.
Without it, it wouldn't compile, asked always about PACKAGE
and
VERSION in acconfig.h.
An other point:
the --with.. prefixes for kmid don't work at compile
time.
So I had no choice and must compile with tse3.
Eric MC
Best regards,
Reinhard Katzmann
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Re: [Cooker] autoconf-2.14.1-9mdk
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So please add on acconfig.h: /* Define VERSION and PACKLAGE */ #undef PACKAGE #undef VERSION Let me precise my thinking, relatively to the last post: I mean, if you want to have it in your programs, the proper way is to put "#undef PACKAGE" (and so on) in your config.h.in It is ! But without the same in acconfig.h it wouldn't compile. Compiled package: tse3-0.0.7 Can you send the SRPM for investigation? I do not see any tse* packages in our distribution. [gc@kenobi ~] ls /RPMS/tse* ls: /RPMS/tse*: No such file or directory [gc@kenobi ~] ls /contrib/RPMS/tse* ls: /contrib/RPMS/tse*: No such file or directory The tse3 is a package needed by noteedit ! it's in .tar format not from mandrake. The config.h.in in this package mentio. a PACKAGE and VERSION but it also need this from autoconfig (acconfig.h). So when I added it to acconfig.h all builds as a charm, without it nothing to do. So apparantly some packages needs PACKAGE and VERSION in acconfig.h to compile. Eric MC What puzzles me is that I have even wrote myself some programs with configure support, and I always use the VERSION and PACKAGE preprocessor variables in my code for the `--help' output, and it actually works. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Many errors after cooker install !!!
Soyez prudent, PRUDENT, avec cooker !!
Se sont des packages en phase de test.
Installez un package à la fois ou un
petit ensemble si nécessaire et teste le avant.
Et faire de sorte de toujours pouvoir retomber
sur l'ancien(s).
Eric MC
Duclos Andre wrote:
After cooker install many errors in ddebug.log and install.log
Examples :
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libglide2x.so.2
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libglide3x.so.3
...
install-info: warning: no info dir entry in `/usr/share/info/screen.info.bz2
...
postalias: fatal: could not find any active network interfaces
...
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
Can't locate lib.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux
/usrBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /sbin/installkernel line 19.
execution of script failed
...
dev-3.0.2-5mdk.i586.rpm
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.96728: wc: command not found
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.96728: [: -gt: unary operator expected
/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.96728: sed: command not found
failed to add devpts filesystem to /etc/fstab
execution of script failed
...
why why ???
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Re: [Cooker] autoconf-2.14.1-9mdk
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So please add on acconfig.h: /* Define VERSION and PACKLAGE */ #undef PACKAGE #undef VERSION Let me precise my thinking, relatively to the last post: I mean, if you want to have it in your programs, the proper way is to put "#undef PACKAGE" (and so on) in your config.h.in It is ! But without the same in acconfig.h it wouldn't compile. Compiled package: tse3-0.0.7 Eric MC -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] autoconf-2.14.1-9mdk
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have above package installed, but when searching on rpmfind.net found only a lower version ?? not announced on freshmeat; these two ftp sites are unreachable ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/autoconf/ ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/autoconf/ this ftp site only shows the 2.13 version ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/gnu/autoconf/ where did you get the 2.14.1? who is the packager? From MacMillan CD'S vers. 7 Distribution : Linux-Mandrake Packager : Chmouel Boudjnah Build time : Tue Oct 26 09:45:46 1999 So what happen ? Eric MC Some progs to be installed requires VERSION and PACKAGE. So please add on acconfig.h: /* Define VERSION and PACKLAGE */ #undef PACKAGE #undef VERSION What do you mean? Most well `autoconfigured' programs do have access to the PACKAGE and VERSION defined by the configure script. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Note editing program for Mandrake
Very interresting ! A little pb to compile. Must add PACKAGE and VERSION to acconfig.h. Thanks Eric MC Reinhard Katzmann wrote: Hi! I just wondered how much interest is there on this list for such a program. Also there is a quite nice midi sequencer program based on the same lib as the program needs. It's name is noteedit. It requires a bunch of programs: 1) qt2 for the GUI 2) tse3 for the midi input/output (a 'sequencer engine' library) http:/tse3.sourceforge.net 3) musixtex for the output http://www.gmd.de/Misc/Music/musixtex/ 4) pmx, a preprocessor to musixtex for an alternative output. It's output is much easier to read and modify than musixtex itself. http://www.gmd.de/Misc/Music/pmx 5) tetex notedit can be found here: http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~ja/noteedit/noteedit.html You can set notes either with the GUI directly or with a midi-capable instrument. Therefore you better should use a sequencer directly so the program anthem (anthem.sourceforge.net) could be added as well :-). The midi files can then be edited (for bows, trills and other ornaments). I have created/adopted rpm spec files for the applications which are not in contrib. If you think it's a worthful addition just tell me and I'll post the spec files to the list. Best regards, Reinhard Katzmann -- E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Projects: Linux-Installation Mandrake 7.1 (95% finished) Improvements of Driver for Tevion Tablet Java-DB and -Interface for Pincity (93 % finished) GnuPG Public Key available on request. Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: [Cooker] last updates
Thanks. Eric MC Christian Zoffoli wrote: "Eric MC.D" wrote: Hi, where can we find the last updates from cooker ? rufus to slow on his updates; Eric MC try: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker -- Yours Sincerly, Christian Zoffoli ''~`` ( o o ) +---.oooO--(_)--Oooo.--+ | LittlePenguin H 1 L.U.G. http://www.littlepenguin.org | | PGP: ~czoffoli/czoffoli.asc | | | |.oooO [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | ICQ: 79364453 ( ) Oooo. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | +-\ (( )-+ \_)) / (_/
[Cooker] last updates
Hi, where can we find the last updates from cooker ? rufus to slow on his updates; Eric MC
[Cooker] freeramdisk
hello cooker, why 'freeramdisk' isn't included in Mandrake ?? Eric MC
Re: [Cooker] freeramdisk
Alexander Skwar wrote: On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 05:08:13PM +0200, Eric MC.D wrote: hello cooker, why 'freeramdisk' isn't included in Mandrake ?? What is this? FREERAMDISK !! For freeing the ram mem. part of initrd !! Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.dp.ath.cx Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [Cooker] Can't get CUPS to work :-(
OS wrote: Hello, Can someone help me gets CUPS working please ! Most of the CUPS programs say they cannot connect to the server ! What server would that be ? ! Must setup cups: in browser or kfm type: http://localhost:631 or replace localhost by 127.0.0.1 Eric MC CUPS said it conflicted with lpr, so I rpm -e'd it. I also rpm -e' rhs-printfilters since it needed lpr ! I assume CUPS has taken over from lpr ? Running DrakConf and trying to install a printer results in a debug output saying that the printerdb file was missing. Not surprising really since most printer stuff has now gone ! So what exactly is happening ! Owen Savill A "stupid user" (quote) :-)
[Cooker] xinetd.d
Hello cooker, after installing xinetd I'm looking for /etc/xinetd.d ?? Is not installed and not in the package. See /etc/xinetd : incluse /etc/xinetd.d ??? Eric MC
Re: [Cooker] updating kernel through rpms
Question: what's the difference about the initrd used by ram disk and setup on a separate dir with /dev/ram0 using linuxrc, and the /boot/initrd-xx.xx.xx ?? Eric MC Vincent Danen wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 06:51:05AM -0400, Pixel wrote: would be to auto-generate initrd upon the install, but some people don't use/need initrd, so that's extra overhead to just arbitrarily decide someone needs it. mkinitrd generates an initrd only if needed, based on fstab and modules.conf Really? I wasn't aware of that... I've always had an initrd (all my systems have SCSI) so I've never actually run a Linux system without it... =) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net // Danen Consulting Serviceswww.danen.net, www.freezer-burn.org // MandrakeSoft, Inc. www.linux-mandrake.com 1024D/FE6F2AFD 88D8 0D23 8D4B 3407 5BD7 66F9 2043 D0E5 FE6F 2AFD Current Linux uptime: 3 days 1 hour 58 minutes.
Re: [Cooker] diskdrake problem with win 9.x
I have the 95B and there are no pbs to access whatever in my
2 HD's
( windooz or linux) with my mandrake 7.0
Eric
Stefan Siegel wrote:
Hello Pixel, hello everybody,
the famous german comuter magazine "c't" has an article on multi boot
computers in its new number officially published on monday 2000-07-31.
They have a special paragraph dedicated to Linux Mandrake 7.1 and its
incorrect partition labeling. As I have no M$ 9x or NT on my machine
I can't confirm the content. But I've tried to translate it in english
to let you have a look into it.
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|Confused Types
|
|By using the extended BIOS functions for harddisk access, Microsoft
|introduced with Windows 95B a new label for "large" partitions.
|Partitions to be addressed via LBA are labeld 0x0F whereas 0x05
|indicates CHS adressing.
|
|Unfortunately, noone in Redmond thaught about possible complications
|occouring in cooperation with other operating systems. For other
|systems, e.g. OS/2, older versions of linux or even NT those partitions
|were invisible. In the meantine those OSes have learned their lesson,
|but a diffret interpretation of the lables leads sometimes to confusion.
|
|Linux Mandrake 7.1 for example, will install itself on a extended
|partition as a second OS on a Windows 9x machine, but uses the wrong
|partition label 0x05. Linux has no problems with that, it uses LBA to
|access the partition. Microsoft on the other hand, strictly follows
|their own rules - with consequences: On partitions labeld 0x05 Windows
|uses the old BIOS-CHS routines without any tests, even if the partition
|resides after the 1024 cylinder (8GB) fronier.
|
|An extended partition holds logical partitions as a pointered list,
|each of them pointereing to the next partition. Using correct CHS
|addressing on the wrong 0x05 label leads to a infinite list of
|logical partitions. It reaches its end when Windows has no more labels
|left (normally Z:). As a result Windows can only be restarted in
|secure mode, but fdisk won't work any more. To thake remedial action,
|use the linux fdisk to change the partition label from 0x05 to 0x0F.
|
+ from: c't 16/2000 page 96
the original (german) article can be found here:
http://www.student.uni-kl.de/~siegel/misc/partition.jpg
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Re: [Cooker] Sticky bit
Thomas SMETS wrote: Tx Eric, what did I do then when invoking chmod -Rv 6755 * ? Thomas, There you setted the 'Set user ID' and the 'Set group ID' !! BTW SUID and SGID. So when a file is set with ex: -rw-r--r-- with chmod 6755 becomes -rwsr-sr-x Remarked the 's' ? The SUID (s) replace the 'x'. See the description of chmod. So you setted new access priv. = (named) EXTENDED priv. to the user and group to facilitate the concept of access priv. used by processes and files. By this way you authorize other users to read and modif your data but only when using a prog who's select and control the plausibility on the modif in order to prevent any error. See also the EUID and RUID. Eric "Eric MC.D" wrote: Les SUID bit et SGID bit sont déterminants pour les droits d'accès des processus. Il ne sont normalement qu'applicables à des fichiers de programme. Mais il existe égal. des droits d'accès pour les rép. Si un utilisateur veut créer ou défaire un fichier dans un rép. où le droit d'accès est rwxrwxrwx il en est capable. Si tu veux que cela ne puisse être possible il existe donc ce qu'on appelle le Sticky bit pour les rép. Dans ce cas le signe t apparaît dans les droits attribués au reste du monde. Si le Sticky bit est appliqué seul le prop. peut supprimer un fichier du rép. Sauf le root biensur.(0) Il faut donc faire: chmod u+t /rép ou chmod 1777 /rép. Cela deviendra: drwxrwxrwxt .. C'est bien cela que tu veux ? Eric PS: la prochaine fois demande dans la liste debutant, comme cela il ne faut pas que se soit en Anglais. To Till, For ex. if rwxrwxrwx is attributed to a file everyone can delete this file. The SUID and SGID bit are normaly applicable to prog. files. But this is also available for dirs. This is the Sticky bit for dirs. If the Sticky bit is set, only the prop. of the dir can delete a file in this dir. (also the root (0) of corse) To set this bit do: chmod u+t /dir or chmod 1777 /dir Now it becomes drwxrwxrwxt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'lut, Est-ce que qqn pourrait me dire comment je puis realiser la chose suivante : /opt est un repertoire ou se trouve qq appli que je voudrais partager p.e. jdk's / jre's / Weblogic / ... (Weblogic cela sera pr plus tard, je crois) j'ai ensuite applique : chown -Rv root.users * # pr permettre a tt le monde d'etre reconnu comme utilsateur chmod -Rv 755 *# pr permettre a tt le monde de compiler d'executer ses pgrm Java mkdir src # Java source code mkdir Classes # Java class files Maintenant, je desire autoriser n'importe qui a creer des fichiers / repertoires / ... et les compiler, mais ss permettre d'ecraser ceux des autres. Je n'ai cependant pas reussi a utiliser le Sticky bit avec success. Qqn pourrait-il me donner des renseignement sur ce que je dois faire ? Merci, thomas, -- Thomas SMETS Phone : +32 (0)2 742. 05. 94. Av. de la Brabançonne 133 / 3 e-mail : tsmets @altern.org 1030 Bruxelles Quote of the day = Ignorance is when you don't know anything and somebody finds it out. === End of Quote =
Re: [Cooker] Sticky bit
Thomas SMETS wrote: I'd like to set my /opt directory as a king of shared environment. I downloaded jdk jre 1.1.8 / 1.2.2 / 1.3 set up some script so one could work with the three in different shells whitout too many clashes. Now what I want is to lock the directories so every one can see other's work but cannot overwrite it. I thought doing this would give the answer but it doesn't ! Every action is completed under the "root" account (su). Here set the Sticky bit 1xxx to the dir. Ex.: Thomas and Eric have acces to the /tmp dir. So Thomas decided to create a dir /tmp/new. Now Eric don't like Thomas, so he remove the /tmp/new when Thomas is away. Now, to protect his dir Thomas must set the Sticky bit so Eric can't remove it. The accesses however stay in place. # From /opt doing that would allow every member of the "users" group # to be part of the gid allowed for the files chown -Rv root.users * Here you setted (with shown) the SUID and SGID to '0'. Because the owner and group changed. Only chmod can change the extended acesses. # # Gives rx access to anyone (only root can modify) # Every one can access in full control every thing it creates (sticke bit) chmod -Rv 6755 * This way not only the owner AND root can modify, but EVEYONE ! If a SUID bit is placed say a prog, this prog obtain, the time he's used, the nbr of the owner with of corse all the priv. of the owner. Ex. : if the SGID is placed on a prog where the owner is 'root', then this prog obtain the '0' nbr = root and the prog an be executed. Do this with passwd and the user can change your passwd So know what you are doing. Octal values of are: Access priv.Value DUID bit4000 SGID2000 Now add both = 6000 and 6000 + 755 = 6755. Or chmod u+s filename for the SUID. and chmod g+s filename for the SGID. The SUID bit and SGID are only util if the exec authorization are defined in consequence. If they aren't for the owner or the group of the file, the identificator 's' is displayed as (S) majusc. Gives out : mode of jre118/lib/font.properties.ISO8859_15_FDIS changed to 6755 (rwsr-sr-x) For every files # Creating the Src destination directories. mkdir src mkdir Classes chmod -Rv 6755 * Now I though that as a normal user (su username) : Normal users are 500 + Su is for the root password to get the root priv. (0) 1. Could create any file I wanted in the ./src ./Classes without any troubles What troubles do you mean ? 2. Would receive the rxw priviledge while others would only get the rx. ??? I doesn't seems to be that. Could one hint to a solution ? Tx, Thomas, Did this respond on your question ? (Sorry about the English) Eric (see also the return on your next e-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'lut, Est-ce que qqn pourrait me dire comment je puis realiser la chose suivante : /opt est un repertoire ou se trouve qq appli que je voudrais partager p.e. jdk's / jre's / Weblogic / ... (Weblogic cela sera pr plus tard, je crois) j'ai ensuite applique : chown -Rv root.users * # pr permettre a tt le monde d'etre reconnu comme utilsateur chmod -Rv 6755 *# pr permettre a tt le monde de compiler d'executer ses pgrm Java mkdir src # Java source code mkdir Classes # Java class files Maintenant, je desire autoriser n'importe qui a creer des fichiers / repertoires / ... et les compiler, mais ss permettre d'ecraser ceux des autres. Je n'ai cependant pas reussi a utiliser le Sticky bit avec success. Qqn pourrait-il me donner des renseignement sur ce que je dois faire ? Merci, thomas, -- Thomas SMETS Phone : +32 (0)2 742. 05. 94. Av. de la Brabançonne 133 / 3 e-mail : tsmets @altern.org 1030 Bruxelles Quote of the day = Ignorance is when you don't know anything and somebody finds it out. === End of Quote =
Re: [Cooker] Sticky bit
Till Kamppeter wrote: Oi, your explanation of the sticky bit is not correct. If it is set, only the owner of the file can delete the file. See the following example: btp333@btp5x14 ~ cd /usr/cd-image Directory: /usr/cd-image /usr/cd-image btp333@btp5x14 /usr/cd-image ls -al total 6567 drwxrwxrwt 5 btp301 bt_p35120 Jul 11 19:39 . drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 1024 Feb 24 21:10 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3614 Dec 30 1999 README.multi drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 Jan 12 2000 image -rw-r--r-- 1 btp434 bt_p4 6672384 Jul 3 14:12 image1.dat drwxr-xr-x 2 root root12288 Jan 4 2000 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 2 btp333 bt_p31024 Jun 8 15:37 mandrake btp333@btp5x14 /usr/cd-image Here we se a directory where the sticky bit is set. The user logged in is 'btp333' he could do a rm -rf mandrake and the directory mandrake will be deleted (he would not do it, because Mandrake is a nice distribution). Yes, he can. Because the Sticky bit is not set and the are of the same group. But he cannot delete image1.dat because it belongs to 'btp434'. 'btp301' as the owner of the directory /usr/cd-image cannot delete anything inside it, because he does not own any of the files. 'root' naturally can delete all files and the directory /usr/cd-image itself (the directory is on a local disk of the machine). That's a standard right. Have nothing todo for rights when belong to the same group. Wrong explanation of me ? Till "Eric MC.D" wrote: To Till, For ex. if rwxrwxrwx is attributed to a file everyone can delete this file. The SUID and SGID bit are normaly applicable to prog. files. But this is also available for dirs. This is the Sticky bit for dirs. If the Sticky bit is set, only the prop. of the dir can delete a file in this dir. (also the root (0) of corse) To set this bit do: chmod u+t /dir or chmod 1777 /dir Now it becomes drwxrwxrwxt.
Re: [Cooker] Sticky bit
Interresting subject, do it ? Eric
Re: [Cooker] How to Disk Copy a full Installation?
Link World wrote: I am a system OEM in Bangalore,India selling systems bundled with Mandrake Linux. The problem is that with every system I sell, I need to install configure the system which takes HOURS!. Can I do a diskcopy instead? Please Help. This is a major bottleneck for me. SUNIL GUPTA LinkWorld. OMHO, Norton Ghost.Suggested by NAQUIN Frédérick. Eric
Re: [Cooker] Sticky bit
Another (maybe usefull) (restricted access):
If you are an exp. admin you know that users create files
they don't use anymore.
What create unused space.
The solution is to search the files who's are not accessed
a long time and to delete them.
But, as user to prevent this, at the point of user,
create a command in your .profile or .bashrc like:
find $HOME -type f -exec touch {} \; /dev/null 21
Run it in the background. So the admin can't find them.
For the admin:
A process more radical is to use the command 'du' on
the dirs of the users.
This display the nbrs of blocs of 512 bytes of every dir and
the admin can calc the utilised diskspace.
Ok, and what if the admin can't convainc the user
to delete his files ?
Eric
Re: [Cooker] a pure RMS compliant Linux-Mandrake distro (only GPLpackages)
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Hi, In Bordeaux some people criticized us for delivering non-free software like Netscape in our first CD that we label "GPL Edition" is its standalone version. Now we have a (rather funny) idea : why not trying to see if it's possible to build up a 100% GPL product? This would involve removing anything but GPL-ized stuff, that is XFree86, apache, etc. Does anyone here is interested in looking after this product? -- "Pixel, il faut mettre un peu de chaleur dans tes contacts humains" (c) Titi AMHA, I'm more interested in splitting it in 2 CD's. 1 for the 100% GPL packages. and 1 for all FREE packages. This way we have the choice to go 100% GPL the other way, one or more CD's with ALL free packages we haven't to download. This is also very interrested for newbie's who don't know what is avialable as free for use. Eric
Re: [Cooker] Sticky bit
Les SUID bit et SGID bit sont déterminants pour les droits d'accès des processus. Il ne sont normalement qu'applicables à des fichiers de programme. Mais il existe égal. des droits d'accès pour les rép. Si un utilisateur veut créer ou défaire un fichier dans un rép. où le droit d'accès est rwxrwxrwx il en est capable. Si tu veux que cela ne puisse être possible il existe donc ce qu'on appelle le Sticky bit pour les rép. Dans ce cas le signe t apparaît dans les droits attribués au reste du monde. Si le Sticky bit est appliqué seul le prop. peut supprimer un fichier du rép. Sauf le root biensur.(0) Il faut donc faire: chmod u+t /rép ou chmod 1777 /rép. Cela deviendra: drwxrwxrwxt .. C'est bien cela que tu veux ? Eric PS: la prochaine fois demande dans la liste debutant, comme cela il ne faut pas que se soit en Anglais. To Till, For ex. if rwxrwxrwx is attributed to a file everyone can delete this file. The SUID and SGID bit are normaly applicable to prog. files. But this is also available for dirs. This is the Sticky bit for dirs. If the Sticky bit is set, only the prop. of the dir can delete a file in this dir. (also the root (0) of corse) To set this bit do: chmod u+t /dir or chmod 1777 /dir Now it becomes drwxrwxrwxt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'lut, Est-ce que qqn pourrait me dire comment je puis realiser la chose suivante : /opt est un repertoire ou se trouve qq appli que je voudrais partager p.e. jdk's / jre's / Weblogic / ... (Weblogic cela sera pr plus tard, je crois) j'ai ensuite applique : chown -Rv root.users * # pr permettre a tt le monde d'etre reconnu comme utilsateur chmod -Rv 755 *# pr permettre a tt le monde de compiler d'executer ses pgrm Java mkdir src # Java source code mkdir Classes # Java class files Maintenant, je desire autoriser n'importe qui a creer des fichiers / repertoires / ... et les compiler, mais ss permettre d'ecraser ceux des autres. Je n'ai cependant pas reussi a utiliser le Sticky bit avec success. Qqn pourrait-il me donner des renseignement sur ce que je dois faire ? Merci, thomas,
Re: [Cooker] Sticky bit
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Eric MC.D" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Les SUID bit et SGID bit sont déterminants pour les droits d'accès des processus. Please, this is an english mailing list, it is important to keep this language so that everyone can benefit from your experience and co. -- Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ Hi, the traduction of it is below the French text. So what more ??? Eric
Re: [Cooker] ...JAVA IDE under Mandrake - self reply
Serge Lussier wrote: Ok, I couldn't wait for help. I downloaded JDK 1.3 from sun. installed it and everything is ok now. - Very easy to install by the way. Sorry for the disturbing. Serge Lussier How you did it ???
Re: [Cooker] CUPS and XPP in Mandrake
Hi all on the list, I setted-up this fabumous program, withe the help of Till. It runs perfectly, better than before with the original configuration. I recommend it to all. Thanks to Till. Eric Till Kamppeter wrote: Oi, I have been on the Linuxtag 2000 in Stuttgart and have presented my free software project "X Printing Panel" (http://www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/). On the fair I have also talked with Stefan Siegel about it and he liked it an recomended to post the suggestion to put it into Mandrake onto the Cooker list. In reality I suggest to include not only my software. The first one is CUPS (www.cups.org) which is a free (GPL) new printing daemon which replaces the old LPD which is technology of the '70s. The advantages of CUPS are: - Broadcasting: If you configure a printer on one machine, it is automatically known on all machines of the network (which machines is configurable on the server where the printer is configured. - Printer classes: If one configures the same physical printer on several machines, it is accessible even when only one of the machines is running and if one defines a class of a group of printers only one printer must be working so that the printout will come out. - Printing options: This is the most interesting point. Under CUPS all options of sophisticated printers (trays, resolutions, duplex, color and even things as folders or staplers) are available as they were defined by the manufacturer of the printer. So no proprietary software is necessary any more for making use of all features of a printer. - Easy administration: all administration can be done by a WWW interface. There is also a KDE administration program called KUPS, see www.linuxprinting.org. - Accounting and Authentification: All printed pages get logged and one can reserve printers only for a special part of all users. To get additional printer drivers one simply can go to www.linuxprinting.org or http://www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/ and follow the links. The part I have done is making an easy-to-use graphical frontend for CUPS which one uses for printing instead of "lp" or "lpr". It allows easy choosing of the desired printer and the options for the printout. All options and the default printer can be saved so that every user can have his personal options and one does not need to adjust them for every printout. The program is downloadable under http://www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/ I think, including this software makes printing under mandrake really much more comfortable and it offers possibilties which had not been available for free software before, Till
Re: [Cooker] CUPS and XPP in Mandrake
Hello Till, I downloaded CUPS, FLTP and XPP. After install (with CUPS there is a dependency pb with lpr, printtool and rhs-printfilters = lpr, lprm, and lp...) Did the install. Window of xpp came up bute after clicking on 'options' to select a printer, xpp get away (stops). What did I wrong ? My printer: HP Deskjet 815C same as 810C. Thanks for advice. Eric Till Kamppeter wrote: There are also a lot of free drivers, in principle one can derive a CUPS driver from any GS based printer driver for LPD and native PostScript printers are supported through the PPD file provided by the printer manufacturer. For driver generation, download and building instructions check the links on the pages www.linuxprinting.org www.phy.uni-bayreuth.de/till/xpp/ The first link contains a huge printer database. So most printers are supported by free software. There are only a few printers which require proprietary software to work, but these do not work well under LPD, too. And all the way, CUPS and LPD can coexist. I can send instructions how to do it. Till Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: The additional printer drivers are not free software, isn't it? -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] Swap problems with kernel 2.2.17-0.5
There are also connection pbs to the internet with ISDN. Eric Guillaume Rousse wrote: It seems last kernel has problems with swapping when facing heavy file transfer duties (gnutella gnapster running at the same time) : Jul 1 20:01:08 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... Jul 1 20:02:20 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... Jul 1 20:02:40 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for kswapd... Jul 1 20:02:55 agathe kernel: VM: do_try_to_free_pages failed for X... Jul 1 20:02:55 agathe kernel: VM: terminating process X Reverting to 2.2.16 solved this -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.2.17-0.2mdk
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Eric MC DECLERCK [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: be carrefull, this version is not **stable** if you want to test keep in mind it's beta. YES, IT IS !! gosh i like detailled bug reports. -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel Hi Chmouel, j'ai pas plus de détails en ce moment! J'ai toujours 3 kernels dont je peut choisir lors du boot. Le dernier étant la 2.2.17-0.5. Celui-ci, pour une raison que je connais pas encore freeze ma connection à internet (isdn). Ceci était suffisant pour ne plus l'utiliser de suite car ici internet est utilisé presque constamment. J'ai pas de station rien que pour faire des expériences. Je verrais ce week-end ce qui ce passe exactement. Eric PS: tu peux me donner des détails comment updater initscripts, modutils et setup sans faire de gaffe ?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kernel-2.2.17-0.2mdk
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --=-=-= Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 2.2.17Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 0.2mdkBuild Date: Wed Jun 28 17:56:34 2000 be carrefull, this version is not **stable** if you want to test keep in mind it's beta. -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel YES, IT IS !!
Re: [Cooker] bash-2.04-8mdk breaks the system
Hi,
I had this pb too.
Did an update with my CD but didn't help when restoring the
old bash and readline.
Could boot with a rescue disk but all access to mount points
are very limited and couldn't set any links.
Found and did not receive a good answer to solve this pb.
So was forced to a reinstall .
Hope you get a better answer than me .
Eric
Alexander Skwar wrote:
Hi!
After I installed bash-2.04-8mdk on my Mandrake 7.1 system, I was no longer
able to boot. I always ended up with these error messages during boot:
[...]
Freeing unused kernel memory: 72k freed
INIT: version 2.78 booting
sh: error in loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.4.1: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory
INIT: entering runlevel 5
bash: error in loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.4.1: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
sh: error in loading shared libraries: libreadline.so.4.1: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory
(the last line appears about 10 times on the screen)
[...]
INIT: Id "{x,1,2,3,4,6,5}" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
(to be honest, I get 7 lines with 'Id "x"', 'Id "1"' etc.)
INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
libreadline.so.4.1 is in /usr/lib, and I haven't touched it; I only upgraded
bash-2.04-3mdk to bash-2.04-8mdk. After I downgraded the bash again, I was
able to boot.
Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] Favorite calendar program?
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: Jeff Garzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anybody recommend a good calendar program? (preferably included in linux-mandrake :)) i use M-x calendar from emacs and i can even sync-up it with my PalmPilot. -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com San Diego, CA USA --Chmouel An individual package without starting xemacs ?? Eric
[Cooker] 7.1 XFree86 3.3.6 Fails
I thought Mandrake 7.0 was the best distro ever and couldn't wait for 7.1 but I thought that you released it too early and after downloading it I see I was right to be worried. The install goes perfectly (I love the new graphical boot screen) until I get the the part where it tries to install XFree86. A message box pops up and says something like "unable to find XFree86- rpm". My virtual terminal 3 window says: running: /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs start with root /mnt unknown package 'XFree86-' warning: XFree86- rpm not found at /usr/bin/perl-install/install_steps.pm line 273. When I reboot the system it won't let me run any XFree86 setup programs saying something about no card database. How do I get it to work???
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] readline-4.1-5mdk
Geoffrey Lee wrote: pygnome pygtk python python-devel pythonlib rpm-devel tkinter yuck. ah... if it's a one-time-thing then it's no problem. I wouldn't like to see people flip-flopping from /usr/lib to /lib and back to /usr/lib a few times... umm, recompile with symlinks in /usr/lib ? ;) go ahead... ;-) Hmmm... things are getting ugly. I'm in the process of recompiling the packages above, and the results are not nice. They compile fine, but when you try to install them: rpm -Uvh guile-* error: failed dependencies: libreadline.so.4.1 is needed by guile-1.3.4-3mdk and this is for all of them. Maybe I'm st*p*d or terribly dumb, but my impression is that this is looking 'ugly'. can you create the symlinks in the readline spec spec and ercompile to see what happens?? this might fix stuff. i.e. symlinks in /usr/lib. please please please, no one should move readline back to /usr/lib just because a whole bunch of shit si complaining ... i awnt to take a look now but i'm tired ... Hi, Someone heart about 'Linux Filesystem Structure' ?? It's somewhat outdated (1995) I now, but it's the only way for everyone to know WHERE FILES STAYED and MUST STAYING ! So let us follow that. Now there is already a difference between distributions, so if will Mandrake go this way up also ?? Eric
[Cooker] Where is Glade?
What happened to glade? 7.0 had it. It looks to be completely missing from 7.1 Eric
RE: [Cooker] bash-2.04-4mdk problems
What did you exactly to run linux again ?? I installed it to and now can't reboot no more. INIT say's 'sh: error in loading shared libraries : readline so.4.1 : cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory. I acn only run linux with the rescue disk = very little possibilities. Eric -Original Message- From: jwd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] bash-2.04-4mdk problems bash-2.04-4mdk problems Running an ldd against /bin/bash yields = libreadline.so.4.1 = /usr/lib/libreadline.so.4.1 libhistory.so.4.1 = /usr/lib/libhisttory.so.4.1 I don't know about any one else but my /usr is on a second partition. I had to copy both of these files from /us/lib to /lib to get the latest cooker to startup. bash-2.04-4mdk has a build date of 05 June 2000 and Chmouel is listed as the packager. jim drash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] bash problem ?
Hi, Have installed the NEW bash-.. and readline-. and readline-devel- Also bash1-... Don't remember wath version, but the lasts from cooker. So, can't reboot the system. Says: sh:error in loading shared libraries : readline.so.4.1 : cannot open shared object file : no such file or directory. By the install with kpackage and 'check dependency' enabled, there were no errors ! Did an upgrade to reinstall the original (7) bash and readline packages, but can only select the bash1 and readline, no bash found when in 'upgrade' but on the CD. init-version 2.77 is booting. Did a copy of the downloaded RPMS on a zip disk before shutdown. Sorry, no rescue disk. What can I do without doing a complete reupdate or reinstall ? Eric
Re[2]: [Cooker] XMMS w/ Cooker
That's what happens to me when I've neglected to nfs mount my mp3 drive. xmms can't find the songs. Eric. On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:58:22 +0200 you wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 12:30:58PM -0400, David J. Orme wrote: Riyad Kalla wrote: If you open a console window, and type "xmms" and run it, what does it complain about? It doesn't complain. :(( Also, no messages in /var/log/messages. Just all of the songs in my playlist go by really fast, and nothing plays. Maybe you don't have the right on these files ? Dave Orme -- Thomas Poindessous EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.epita.fr/~epx
[Cooker] Beta3 dies on install.
The beta 3 snapshot won't install on my dual pentium II machine. after clicking ok on the first window of the install packages section, I get a 'divide by 0' error window. I found no errors in any of the log windows except for one saying that it couldn't find kernel-smp. Any idea's? Eric
Re: [Cooker] Kernel release version login screen (uname -r)
Anton Graham wrote: Submitted 31-May-00 by Brian Fleischman: | I have updated the kernel 3 times in the last week. Initially started | with -9mdksmp, now I am at -12mdksmp. The problem I have is the login | page and uname -r always display the -9 kernel version. Why? Where is | this information kept so I can update it? I have reconfigured | /boot...System.map linked to -12 System.map, etc. I have a separate | problem with updating MBR with lilo (previous post). How does | /etc/issue get created to display on the login screen and where does | uname -r get its info? /proc reflects the -9 kernel also. Am I | actually still loading the -9 kernel? I would say yes. In your /boot directory, you will likely find that the vmlinuz symlink still points at vmlinuz-2.2.15-9mdksmp. The install-kernel script does not seem to automatically update this consistently. -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered! I suppose your kernel is installed correctly ?? Like this:(in /usr/src/linux) make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules install (after rename your /lib/modules to /lib/modules.old) then: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.15-xxmdk (where xx is the EXTRAVERSION-nbr) cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.2.15-xxmdk rm /boot/System.map ln -s /boot/System.map-2.2.15-xxmdk /boot/System.map Then change in /etc/lilo.conf : image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.15-xxmdk At last: (if lilo is used) type in console or xterm : lilo And of course rebout your system.(be carfull, have a rescue-disk) If you did it and the pb persist, take a look at your Makefile in the linux dir and see if the EXTRAVERSION= -xxmdk Eric -- FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt you)
Re: [Cooker] bug avec la Mandrake 7.0
Roger Espel Llima wrote:
pour information, j'ai eu des gros problèmes avec le package "msec" de
la Mandrake 7.0. voici en gros ce qui m'est arrivé:
je lis la doc de msec, je tente "custom"; le script me pose quelques
questions, puis plante avec un "file not found". petit tour dans le
source (c'est du sh), et on trouve la ligne:
tmpfile=`mktemp tmp/secure.XX`
bon, je rajoute le / qui manque, et apres quelques tentatives, je
confiture mon niveau de sécurité. peu après, cron commence à me spammer
avec des find qui ratent, des messages d'erreur ou de debug, au rythme
d'une dizaine par heure (désolé, je les ai effacés, sinon j'en enverrais
bien une copie...). je blaste quelques crontabs, je kille tous les
'find' qui tournent, et c'est bon.
quelques heures plus tard, je vais partir, et "shutdown -h" se plante.
j'éteins par l'interrupteur.
ce matin, au boot, al machine me demande "enter runlevel", puis sort
"INIT: entering runlevel 3", "INIT: no more processes in this runlevel",
et en reste là. heureusement, un "linux single" depuis LILO me donne un
shell. après quelques tentatives et plein de "e2fsck /dev/hda5" et
"mount / -o remount -rw" et autres joyausetés, un effacement sauvage
puis réinstallation des RPM "initscripts" et "SysVinit", et c'est bon.
il ne me reste plus qu'à remettre mes customisations de /etc/rc.d/*
depuis une copie d'/etc avant les changements.
je ne sais pas si la disparition du contenu de /etc/inittab a
quelque-chose à voir avec mes tentatives de faire marcher msec, ou si
c'est une coincidence, mais en tout cas, ce morceau-là de configuration
est particulièrement instable.
si des scripts appelés par msec font des modifs à des fichiers critiques
comme /etc/inittab, je suggèrerais d'écrire la version modifiée sous un
autre nom, pour ensuite faire un
rename("/etc/inittab.tmp","/etc/inittab").
franchement, je suis assez content de la mandrake en général, mais ce
"msec" est vraiment ridiculement buggé.
--
Roger Espel Llima, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.iagora.com/~espel/index.html
De mon cote pas de probleme avec la 7+.
Et la msec est installee sans pb.
Qu'est-ce qui tes arrive ?
Eric
Re: [Cooker] GET READY FOR A DISCUSSION
Denis HAVLIK wrote: 1) ergonomics: What should our user interfaces look like in the future, what should we improve in our desktop configuration, which things need polishing... 4) tools: which new tools (packages) should we develop ourselves, or improve in case we are already developing them? Many great programs already exist out there, so we really badly need to know which important linux tools you still miss, in order to concentrate on them in the future. An icon to display the user who's actually operate the machine he's working on. Ex. the only way to see id you are logged-in as user or as root (in X) is the prompt in xterm. An icon on the bottom-right (near the clock) displaying the user name (root, user-name) were very helpfull. Eric (If you feel that we have forgotten an important topic, just start a discusion on it, the list should not be taken too strictly) I am going to spend a lot of time in reading "newbie" and "expert" mailing lists during next two weeks. Guillaume will do the same on the "cooker" list, and other members of the company may pop-up and take part in discussion too, for topics they may be particularly interested in (and if they get time to do it, our schedule is bursting). At the end of the discussion cycle (in two weeks), I will try to write a resume of what has been decided and share it with you. yours Denis Havlik -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- -- FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt you)
Re: [Cooker] BETA3 is available for download on the mirrors
I've lokked at ftp.free.fr. The mandrake. links don't respond !! Nothing to do with permissions. Eric Serge Lussier wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Hi out, Finally! We got it! :-)) Okay, I just verified on free.fr and tucows.com, the beta3 is available on the mirrors. This version is closer than never to the future stable release. It should contain less bugs than never. Please feel free to download and test if you have time and bandwidth! :-) At that time, we will concentrate on testing the 7.1, and the ports to other architecture such as Alpha, Sparc32 and 64, and ppc. -- Guillaume Cottenceau Merci Guillaume. I am right now downloading the iso files from free.fr .:-) joke Notes: (sorry if I look stupid - my brain is exhausted - I'm computing since the last 13 hours! ) The wire in the ocean between north-America and europe must make the water boiling 'cause there is so much network busy-lag ! hehehe Current bandwidth on free.fr: 67.77 kB/s with lag. tucows.com : never give more than 50 KB/s. -- FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt you)
Re: [Cooker] BETA 3 ISO ?
Serge Lussier wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see directory named 'newbeta' in ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/ I can't go into this folder (Permission denied) Are there *.iso files ? This message was sent from iTi WebMail gateway. he! if you did "ls -l" from the above position you could have seen that there is access permission for the owner (root) only :-)) Nothing todo with permissions !! It's seems the link points to nothing. Eric -- FRANCE (Be careful, my English can hurt you)
Re: [Cooker] hdparm
Try http://www.linuxforum.com/plug/ Then select 'articles' on the head of the page. Then select 'Need For Speed' in the text. Read man hdparm !!! Eric Hoyt wrote: - Original Message - From: "Magnus Holmberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] hdparm You might want to check out Need For Speed at http://www.linuxforum.com/plug/articles I like to but: the page can't be found. try .org insread of .com - don't know why they changed it - gr. Hoyt
Re: [Cooker] pb i810 sous hydrigene beta2
C'est excellent une partition étendue, en plus c'est la seule que tu puisse faire (1 par hd). Cela te permet des ajustement futurs et une réserve. Personnellement je crée seulement les stricte nécessaires primaires (et le swap bienentendu) rien de tel que fdisk et diskdruid!(pour ma part, diskdrakejamais essayé.) Eric David Rousseau wrote: Salut les gars de chez mandrake, tout d'abord félicitation ça s'annonce très bien la 7.1 (reiserfs excellent) J'ai eu un pb avec un compaq en i810 coté graphique et son. La distrib a reconnu impec la partie son (épaté) Coté serveur X, le SVGA a été installé et X refusait de se lancer spécifiant que le chipset Intet i810 generic n'était pas trouvé. Après installation du serveur de PrecisionInsight XFCom_i810 et modification du XF86Config pas de pb. A noter que si je n'utilise pas le module agpgart pré-compilé par vos soin ça marche pas. Je veux dire par là que si je recompile le paquet source du module rpm --rebuild ça roule mais le module en question me produit un kernel oops, bizzare parcequ'il se charge pourtant mais x ne se lance pas. Je voudrais faire une remarque concernant diskdrake. Il se trouve qu'il n'est pas évident de créer une partition ext2 ou reiserfs en primaire et non lecteur logique. J'entends par là que diskdrake veut absolument créer une partition étendue. Pourquoi ne pas mettre une option primaire ou logique comme sous fdisk et diskdruid.
Re: [Cooker] LS120s and IDE CD-RW's
That's an idendification error. Had the same ident. but I known it was NOT an scsi !! It works fine before ? So disable your scsi. Eric root wrote: Hello I was wondering if anyone could helpI can't get my LS-120 drive to work in my system after I enable ide-scsi for my ATAPI CD-RW (it's an HP CD-Writer +). The LS-120 works fine before the ide-scsi is enabled, but once enabled it identifies the drive as a SCSI device (/dev/sda instead of /dev/hdd) and gives me an I/O error when I've tried to mount it. Otherwise, I've had a GREAT experience with 7.0...thanks for all the hard work!!!
[Cooker] menu bug addendum
ok, i figured out what the problem is. when a menu item has a text description it pops up and overlaps the menu item below, then when you move down to the next menu item, the next menu item is highlighted before the description is removed so that when the text description from the item above is removed it leaves a "hole" in the currently highlighted menu item. so... erase text description first, then move the highlight to the next menu item, then display that items text description. Cheers, Eric.
[Cooker] kde menu highlighting bug
Hi, i'm running the cooker from i think yesterday sometime but might be from day before. using kde. This is kind of hard to describe... if you open the menus until you reach an application where the text box pops up describing a program, if you scroll down the menu with the mouse pointer near to the left side of the menu block, as you go down to the next program on the list when that next item is highlighted the highlight gets cutoff by the text pop up box. tell me how to take a screenshot with linux (printscreen and paste into some program?) and i'll send one if that would help. Note that you wont see this bug if you are scrolling up the menu of apps, only while scrolling down. Eric.
Re: [Cooker] XFree4 and XFdrake
Hi ! Yesterday i reported a problem to run XFdrake --xf4. Unfortunately, i could not reproduce the bug today ! It worked perfectly, i do not understand what the problem was ! sorry... A remark : if i try to compile a CVS version of freeciv, it does not find the gtk-configure script (to check the version 1.2.1), whereas it worked correctly with mandrake 7.0. Bye Eric
[Cooker] XFree4 and XFdrake
Hi ! A problem using XFdrake with XFree86 4 : After installation of mdk with XFree86 4, display is really faster. Problem : if i use XFdrake to change color depth or resolution, the XFree 3.3.6 server replaces the version 4. Using XFdrake --xf4 does not work. I have the iso beta 1. Eric Fernandez
Re: [Cooker] XFree4 and XFdrake
Hi ! A problem using XFdrake with XFree86 4 : After installation of mdk with XFree86 4, display is really faster. Problem : if i use XFdrake to change color depth or resolution, the XFree 3.3.6 server replaces the version 4. Using XFdrake --xf4 does not work. I have the iso beta 1. you don't say enough to find out what the pb is! Sorry ! I will be more precise tomorrow, i write this from memory. What is sure is that: - Uder KDE or Gnome with XFree86 4 running, when i run XFdrake, it proposes the selection of screen, of the graphic card and resolution. When I reboot, the new X server used is SVGA (i have a Nvidia GeForce), version XFree 3.3.6. The file X in /usr/X11R6/bin links to Xfree_SVGA. All works well, but Xfree 4 is not used anymore. - If i open a console under KDE/Gnome, or under text mode, if i run XFdrake --xf4, the application closes. I remember two messages (in french it was something like 'deja fait') and after an error message (i will give you tomorrow the exact message), and it does not reconfigure X to use the Xfree86 4 server. Eric Fernandez-Bellot CNRS-CGM Gif-sur-Yvette, France
Re: [Cooker] Fw: virus in mandrake...
Hahahha. You guys crack me up... I cant wait to give you guys my money. virus fixed. hehehe. Eric. On 11 May 2000, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: "Daniel Haischt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi daniel, i just reviewed the 1st cd of mandrake (cooker) as i got a virus warning from DocSolomon. file D:\LNX4WIN\RM.EXE is infected by virus Burglar.1150 /translation make sure this _never_ happens again!!! things like that are bad for your company's image and at least bad for my and my friend's computer. yep fixed, we are not really windows expert here. -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com In travel.--Chmouel
RE: [Cooker] ATA 66
The latest cooker and 7.1 beta 2 are NOT the same thing. download the latest cooker, make a NEW iso and you'll be much happier. Eric. On Thu, 11 May 2000, B. K. Barley wrote: Yeah, And they said it was fixed in beta 2. I'm tired of downloading the iso's and burning cd's only to find out it's still broke. Hey, can the iso's be burnt on to a rewritable cd and left open? Bryan -Original Message- From: Jonathan Prigot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] ATA 66 I'm in a similar situation. I was informed that ATA/66 support is still broken in the 2 outstanding betas, but will be fixed in the next. --- On Thu, 11 May 2000, you wrote: I just installed the beta on a box with two HD, and UDMA 66 and an ATA 66. I was expecting this new version to recognize the ATA as stated in the changelog for 7.1 But it doesn't show up. Can anyone give me directions for ATA support? Links, howtos etc.? thanks TTimo -- Jonathan M. Prigot (617-278-0794) Brigham and Women's Hospital 900 Commonwealth Avenue, East Boston, MA 02215-1213
[Cooker] MD5SUM needs updating?
I think the md5sums need updating for the images... [root@s8-54-4 images]# rm MD5SUM rm: remove `MD5SUM'? y [root@s8-54-4 images]# rm hd.img rm: remove `hd.img'? y [root@s8-54-4 images]# rsync -av ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/ /mnt/iso/ MOTD: Welcome to SUNET Archive, Sweden MOTD: MOTD: DISCLAIMER: SLU nor SUNET are liable for any use, storage or MOTD: transmission of any files stored on this archive. MOTD: MOTD: Please email suggestions and questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MOTD: MOTD: Access our ftp area by anonymous rsync like MOTD: MOTD: rsync -av ftp.sunet.se::Module MOTD: rsync -av ftp.sunet.se::Module/path/below/ MOTD: MOTD: Please _don't_ use the '-z' option, as most of the files here are MOTD: already compressed, and running compression is CPU intensive thing MOTD: anyway. Just _wait_, and the transfer will eventually complete. MOTD: MOTD: ModuleContent MOTD: -- MOTD: pub The ENTIRE archive, way too many gigabytes for you to pul l! MOTD: (We _really_ mean it! Don't try to pull everything!) MOTD: Do note that 'pub/somearea' is *not* a valid name, to MOTD: get to files within that directory use: pub/somerarea/. MOTD: Mandrake Mandrake Linux distribution MOTD: Mandrake-devel Mandrake development tree MOTD: Mandrake-cryptoMandrake crypto software receiving file list ... done images/ images/MD5SUM images/hd.img images/ wrote 125 bytes read 1548957 bytes 83734.16 bytes/sec total size is 887894469 speedup is 573.17 [root@s8-54-4 images]# ls MD5SUM README cdrom.img hd.img network.img pcmcia.img rescue.img [root@s8-54-4 images]# cat MD5SUM | grep hd.img c471f073e4975ac25d1e08ac80559837 hd.img [root@s8-54-4 images]# md5sum hd.img 82101bae7f251816eaed95a84a37705b hd.img [root@s8-54-4 images]# Cheers, Eric.
Re: [Cooker] ata66 on a-bit be6 still not working
Perhaps a 7.1 beta 3 iso should be made available to aleviate redundant bug reports. Eric. On Wed, 10 May 2000, B. K. Barley wrote: Hi, Just downloaded the iso of 7.1 beta b. And setup still fails to recognize an ata66 drive on the a-bit motherboard. I tried passing the io address to the install kernel and it still will not work. I need to install linux on this partition. Thought it was fixed in beta b. B. K. Barley
[Cooker] network config prob
mirrored the cooker at around midnight last night... network didn't get setup properly even though i specified ip, netmask, dns, and gateway properly. could this be due to the fact i didn't format my /home directory this time? i wouldn't think so. was able to configure network with drak afterwords but all the settings i specified in the configure network section during the install were lost and had to be redone by hand post install. Eric.
[Cooker] gnapster
Any chance of getting gnapster added to the distribution? Eric.
Re: [Cooker] XFree86 4.0 - segfaults
Please detail what you did to get q3 running, i've yet to succeed in getting the new nvidia driver to work on my system (i followed the xf86-4.0 faq on the nvidia site to no avail). thx, Eric. On 9 May 2000, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: This week-end I tried out the new optimized "nvidia" driver from Nvidia, with their glx extension and kernel module, all this on our LM7.1 beta. -- Guillaume Cottenceau
[Cooker] success!
So i finally managed to get the cooker mirrored and succeeded in a hd.img install. Its all good. Ok, now to start helping with debug... 1. On the hd.img install, after it said successfully installed, reboot /dev/hda6 (where my cooker resides) was not unmounted first causing a check to be forced. this partition didn't have a label (like /user or whatever) so it was mounted as /mnt/hd. dont know if that helps or not. 2. when applying themes i get a very similar message for a bunch of the themes... Kthememgr warning No proper Kdelnk file found for Home. Installing icon(s) as home.xpm these parts changed in the error message these are all the themes that have this problem: Bryce_Gold DrawingBoard Emily2 Future Kowz MacOS2 Mini Pek_s_Atmosphere eclipse Win95 Win98* Win98 theme actually went into an infinite loop, everytime i hit the ok button to close the Kthememgr warning screen it would produce another warning but the warning message would be a different file everytime, the first couple were... Utilities/Khexedit hit ok Graphics/Kpainthit ok etc... I had to actually kill the kthememgr process to get out 3. During the install i got the following message after changing partitions (first 4 gigs = win2k, last gig = cooker location with no 'label' such as /home or whatever, middle 15 gigs auto-allocated)... "You'll need to reboot before the modifications can take place at /usr/bin/perl_install/diskdrake.pm line 548" I'm not even really sure this is an error, might have been something funky that i did but i do know that my /usr directory should have been non-existent since i deleted my old partitions then did auto-allocate - unless the hd.img has a /usr/bin/.. 4. last thing, right after i finally got the install to work, first time i was logging in, i logged into enlightenment under my non-root account and after it finished the auto-menu creating i was checking out what was on the menus and the system locked up, had to hit reset. unfortunately i wasn't able to reproduce this and i cant remember much about which menu i was in. i know i was somewhere in the menu that comes up with the middle mouse button. Thx to everyone who helped me get up to speed, Eric.
Re: [Cooker] bugs?
Grub worked fine for me and i have win2k on the first 4 gig partition, although its definitely very ugly to look at. any chance we can get it to use the really cool looking smaller text you see on the mandrake install just prior to the graphical install starting? On 8 May 2000, Gary G Russell wrote: After install did work - I don't like the new boot loader. Apparently, part of it resides on the linux partition. Please stick with only lilo. This new one caused a problem when I re-partitioned my second drive and I ended up with a system that wouldn't boot at all!
Re: [Cooker] openssl and openssh installation order
Uhm... how do you get it to install ssh? where is this crypto screen i keep hearing about? expert install only? eric. On Sun, 7 May 2000, Steve Fox wrote: I believe an order needs to be added so that openssl gets installed before openssh. When I have all the open*rpm files in one dir and 'rpm -Uvh open*rpm'. The first time I get an error message about libcrypto.so missing. Once both groups are installed, if I install openssh*rpm again it doesn't complain and generates the host key correctly. Is there a way you can add some dependencies or something so that openssl gets installed first? -- Steve Fox http://k-lug.com
Re: [Cooker] Another partitioning related problem
Steve, you can try: setup with fdisk: (all linux)..druid mount points.. 1st primary...32M.../boot 2d prim.(min 2 x RAM).swap 3d prim..(?? G) ../ 1 LINUX EXTENDED (not 5, see the linux extended nbr) Extended partition: /usr /usr/local /home Eric Steve Bergman wrote: ]Hi, I have posted about a problem with mkswap on extended partitions. This is a different problem on the same machine, but using a diffrerent hard drive. I have a 27GB IDE drive which is partitioned thusly: Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 3322 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 138305203+ 83 Linux /dev/hda239 293 2048287+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 430 3322 232379915 Extended /dev/hda5 481 3027 20458746 83 Linux /dev/hda6 430 480409626 82 Linux swap fdisk has no problems with it and I don't think that disk druid does either but I'm not absolutely certain. Mandrake 7.0, 7.1beta1, and 7.1beta2 all take one look at it and say that the "partition table is too corrupted for me' and then says that it will start deleteing bad partitions. What I end up with is all partitions shown as unallocated. If I click on the option to try to recover partition table (this is all from memory so my terminology may not be exact. Sorry.) I just sits and the drive "click click, click click's forever. Any ideas on this? I'd like to install on this disk. Disk is set for LBA and is a UDMA66 running on a UDMA33 controller. Motherboard is VIA based with a K63-400 and 128MB. This is the only disk on the system. -Steve
[Cooker] xmms strange behavior
If you start xmms and move it slowly around the screen it "snaps" into place (dont know a better way to describe this behavior) in weird ways. if you try to snap it to the task bar at the top of the screen (kde) it will (almost) snap to the right location if you are at the top left part of the screen, then as you move to the right, it loses the ability to snap to the task bar about 1/4 of the way accross the screen (i'm at 1280xwhatever res), also, i've noticed that if you have xmms in the center of the screen and drag it slowly to the right or left it snaps into place at nothing about 1/3 and 2/3 of the way accross the screen horizontally. konsole snaps into possition properly. is there a specification for how this behavior should be done for kde? Eric
Re: [Cooker] xmms strange behavior
creative tnt2 ultra ok, now this is very very odd. i rsync'd the ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker at about 8 pm last night so i would have thought that xfree86 4.0 would have been installed but rpm -qa|grep XFree86* lists 3.3.16-14mdk :( how'd that happen? eric. On 9 May 2000, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: "Eric J. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you start xmms and move it slowly around the screen it "snaps" into place (dont know a better way to describe this behavior) in weird ways. if you try to snap it to the task bar at the top of the screen (kde) it will (almost) snap to the right location if you are at the top left part of the screen, then as you move to the right, it loses the ability to snap to the task bar about 1/4 of the way accross the screen (i'm at 1280xwhatever res), also, i've noticed that if you have xmms in the center of the screen and drag it slowly to the right or left it snaps into place at nothing about 1/3 and 2/3 of the way accross the screen horizontally. konsole snaps into possition properly. is there a specification for how this behavior should be done for kde? UUu. Wah.. What is your video card and X server? -- Guillaume Cottenceau
Re: [Cooker] Best way to update a cooker install?
I made a seperate partition to hold the cooker on: fdisk /dev/hda then format it with: mke2fs /dev/hdaX where X is the number of the partition you created (you can figure this out by printing the partition table in fdisk after you've partitioned). Anyway, after that i rebooted and linux mounted my new partition at /mnt/hd. so now you need to mirror the cooker, i'd recommend using rsync. i tried using the mirror program that's mentioned on the cooker home page but i wasn't able to get hd.img to find the cooker when i mirrored with it (almost certainly my fault). Anyway, do this: rsync -av ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/ /mnt/hd/ After it finishes do the same rsync command again, and keep doing this until it no longer downloads new files. After this is done, cd /mnt/hd/images then put a 1.44 floppy in and do: dd if=hd.img of=/dev/fd0 this will make a boot floppy. once that's done, use diff to compare the image on the floppy with the image on your harddrive: diff hd.img /dev/fd0 next check that the md5sums are correct (the correct values can be found in the file /mnt/hd/images/MD5SUM (use less or cat to read it). to find out what the md5 sum is of the hd.img use: md5sum /mnt/hd/images/hd.img assuming everything all matches (resync if the hd.img md5sum is incorrect, or remake the boot floppy if the floppy md5sum is incorrect) then reboot with the floppy in the drive, enter bios, choose to boot from flopppy, save and exit. when it reboots it should start the install program. it will ask for the partition and path to the cooker. choose the partition you just created from the list, and enter the path (probably /cooker). that should be about all you need to do. later when you want to update your install just use the same rsync command above and it will only download files that have changed so dont delete your cooker after you install. Well, that should pretty much help you out. Feel free to correct me on any mistakes guys. :) Cheers, Eric. On Mon, 8 May 2000, Robert Towster wrote: What is the best way to update your installation? Should I point kpackage rpm dir to a cooker distro site? Is there a better way? (or an official way?) thanks
Re: [Cooker] Progress 20000506
On 6 May 2000, Pixel wrote: Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. Multiple nameservers should be parsed out and set to /etc/resolv.conf one per line with a"nameserver " prefix. you mean why doesn't it ask for more than one nameserver? seems a good thing to add. 2 nameservers is ok? yes, 2 would be good. also, it would be nice to be able to specify a couple search domains and have them setup Eric.
[Cooker] hd.img 'unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg'
I'm new so this is exactly what i did... mirrored repeatedly until it said there were no difference rpmfind.net to my /home/ejs/man-cooker/ directory then i went into the images folder and did: dd -if=hd.img of=/dev/fd0 then i shutdown and restart and from lilo choose to boot 'floppy' and i got the following message about 30 times or so... 'unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg' then after that repeated a bunch it ended with... 'could not find kernel image: linux' any help is appreciated, but please be precise since i know very little. thx, eric.
Re: [Cooker] Install everything ( was: minicom extras needed )
On 6 May 2000, Pixel wrote: Rene Eske Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mircea Ciocan wrote: I agree, but then the slider that determines how much should be installed should be placed at the percentage that is installed now, so what do you mean by 'installed now'? personally, i think that the percentage install slider and the size that its going to install is about perfect, the only thing that i think might be nice is if as you move the slider you could see how large/small the install would be for each "installation class". i was half tempted the other day to try a 'normal' install class and move the slider all the way down to see what the smallest mandrake install size would be.
Re: [Cooker] hd.img 'unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg'
Ok, so it was a corrupt floppy as someone mentioned before. now the floppy is good, all the md5sums match (though i didn't do badblocks because i dont know the parameters to use for checking a floppy, man page wasn't too helpful there for me). So now when i boot it (either from setting boot from drive a in bios, or from choosing 'floppy' from lilo) it starts the mandrake cooker install program but when i get to the screen asking for partition and directory it says: 'Device hda8 does not appear to contain a Linux Mandrake installation tree. There should be a directory Mandrake, there's only:' nothing listed after the 'only:' so i did: cat /dev/mstab and /home is on /dev/hda8, i mirrored the cooker to /home/ejs/cooker so i thought i would have to select /dev/hda8 for the partition and choose /home/ejs/cooker/ for the path but that gave me the above error message. so then i thought well, mstab lists /dev/hda8 as /home so i thought maybe i dont need to specify the /home part of the path so i did just /ejs/cooker, still didn't work, then i did ejs/cooker (leaving off the first / ) and it erased the screen and put a blinking square cursor in the bottome left of the screen and proceeded to do nothing. also, when i get to the screen which prints the message from above: 'Device hda8 does not ...' choosing cancel does absolutely nothing and i had to hit the reset button my puta causing the check to be forced on the next boot. help, :) eric. the mirrored cooker doesn't have to be on its on partition or something does it? anyway, when i figure all this stuff out i'll write up a newbies guide for all this stuff that can maybe be linked off the cooker mandrake page so people wont have to keep asking stuff like this all the time. thx. On Sun, 7 May 2000, Ron Stodden wrote: "Eric J. Smith" wrote: 'unknown keyword in syslinux.cfg' then after that repeated a bunch it ended with... 'could not find kernel image: linux' any help is appreciated, but please be precise since i know very little. If you generated the floppy under Linux you can easily verify it either of two ways: 1. diff hd.img /dev/fd0 2. md5sum hd.img md5sum /dev/fd0 The resulting sumchecks should be identical to each other and to the hd.img sumcheck in MD5SUM. It is ESSENTIAL to use a floppy disk that has been thoroughly checked for NO bad sectors beforehand. You may have to use Windows for this. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
[Cooker] 7.1 beta 2
Hi, Maybe i had a bad cd burn but when i did custom install, developer class, 100% install, when switching to the extensions cd the install hangs for me for about 3 minutes. It was in the middle of kpppsomethingorother at the time. By the way, i want to have your children. 7.1 kicks serious ass. :) Oh, newbie question: what's a better way to keep my install up to date with the current cooker? downloading iso's and burning them is painful. Thx, Eric.
[Cooker] partitioning bug in DrakX ?
Hi 1) A strange message from DrakX (I saw that bug also on Mandrake 7.0-2): I have two hard disks, hda contains windows, and i install Linux on hdb. After repartitioning hdb (graphically) and if i use the 'undo' button during this repartitioning, then drakX says 'the table of hda will be written' (but i did not touch to the partition structure in hda). I cancelled at this point, being afraid of a bug. This occur only after using the 'undo' button 2)A novice remark : How do I know if i run the Xfree 4.0 server or the 3.3.6 server ? Where is the config file that indicates which server to use ? How to switch between both server versions ? 3) If i change the PATH variable in /etc/profile file, the changes are not considered after relogging. In which file the PATH variable is finally defined ? Thanks Eric Fernandez
[Cooker] MF8617T bug !
Hi ! A little bug : installation of X does not work if i choose the iiyama MF8617T visionmaster on the list (this is listed under the iiyama tree - MF8617E - -T Visionmaster). Moreover, XF86Setup does not run and returns the error message : Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9660 (generic) (line 2513). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident TGUI9680 (generic) (line 2519). Warning SERVER specification missing in Card database entry Trident Cyber 9320 (generic) (line 2537). Erreur de segmentation (core dumped) However, it works correctly by choosing a compatible monitor (MF8617 ES) (and in this case XF86Setup runs correctly). Eric Fernandez
Re: [Cooker] text mode installer
"Alexander V. Voinov" wrote: Hi, My eyes quickly get tired of the videomode of the graphic installer, so I tried the text-mode one. I see however that it lacks some functionality of the former. E.g. in the expert mode the individual package selection became impossible, it also seems to ignore my 'large-scale' selection. Alexander Select 'Customer' mode. (the best way todo what you want) Eric
Re: [Cooker] Suggestions...
Bill Lea Greenwood wrote: Hey Pixel- I would appreciate that you didn't answer my mails anymore. Do you really think you know everything?? Many of us are not programmers, but know a great deal about beta testing, as well as other things in life. I was under the assumption that Mandrake wanted this all tested, and our suggestions put forth. If this is not the case, then please let me know and I will gladly unsub-scribe. I perceive you as an arrogant programmer with no public skills. Did you really check out suggestions 1 and 2? The rpmslist doesn't say which CD the rpms go on. And drakboot doesn't have the MakeBootDisk button on it (unless I'm blind, in which case my humblest apologies). I would also suggest someone replace the stars on the progress bar of the installer with small rectangles no taller than the text. The stars really cheapen the installer (IMHO), and little colored rectangles would be much more professional, and would give more room for text and it would make it look not so crowded. Again, I would appreciate someone other than a programmer answer my mails. Someone with some tact, and that will not put-down the humble beta testers, new or not. I suggest Mandrake appoint one person with these public skills to act as an intermediary between the programmers and the Cooker list. Especially for suggestions vs. bugs. -Bill = 1) Would it be possible to divide up the RPMs to the 2 different directories (RPMS vs. RPMS2) for the two different CDs on all the Cooker mirror sites? This would be a BIG HELP in keeping them up to date. the list is (now) in Mandrake/base/rpmslist 2) A MakeBootDisk button on the DrakConfig control panel would be handy. there is via drakboot 3) On the installer: I suggest that on the first section when we are talking about SCSI, that the first question should be: Do you have any SCSI devices then if not, then skip this section completely. If you do then ask the next question: Do you want to search for (SCSI) devices then continue from that point. it seems to be a good idea. I must be look at what it could break though :-/ (very frozen here!) DO NOT USE DRAK for the installation ! Use the TEX install. I now, contribs made it (some) easier to install (and others) for the new user, but when we pay for it --- do it GOOD. Eric
RE: [Cooker] Distribution Style
You are right, this is the whole problem when installing individual packages. A way to overcoming this is downloading or consulting www.rusfus.com, select the package and there you'll find what is provided, needed and the changelog. But the best way were of course installing as by the installation of the distribution, there dependency problems are detected and resolved. Eric -Original Message- From: Richard Wackerbarth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 2:22 AM To: dcalford; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Distribution Style On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, dcalford wrote: One of my biggest complaints is the fact that some single packages do not include the whole package. What I mean by this is, I try to install Package A, then find I need Package B, then find that Package B needs Package C. I would prefer to install Program A wich has inside of it, all ... Yes this will make each package much longer due to the redundant libraries in each package Why is this better than a package loader which determines the dependancies and downloads all the missing files?
RE: [[Cooker] Distribution Style]
I agree to ! There is a 'workstation' install available (this is the smallest I think, never used it). But with the workstation-install there is no way to setup partitions ! (the first what has to be doing)It sets his own and don't look if there are several HD's. Of course the strictly needed packages must be determined and a way to add packages and doing several other things (editing, etc..) in console (in case of X didn't work). Eric PS: (there is a bug?) in the new isdn4k-utils or isdn4net (cooker). They didn't find ippp0 !! -Original Message- From: Taras Glek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [[Cooker] Distribution Style] I totally agree with you, Dalton, but I would like to add a couple of points. If software is installed, the user should know its there. Put shortcus to applications into KDE and GNOME menus. I find it very annoying that Mandrake includes AbiWord but doesn't add it to any application menus. It would be very nice if every installed gui application was listed somewhere in the GNOME/KDE application menu. I too want the default install to be much smaller since manyh potentially unneeded packages are installed. For example wine and wine-debugwhy is wine-debug installled and is wasting my space? Dalton Calford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using Mandrake since version 5.3, in fact, I learned linux via mandrake and have always supported the distribution (yes, even with buying copies...) The one thing that I found as a begginer and even now that I am getting truly familiar with the system, is that Mandrake, like most of the linux distributions, is suffering from software bloat. Too much is included with the base system. It confuses the user. Alot gets installed, and never gets used. A new user does not know what is needed and what isn't but they must either accept the few hundred meg of software or go through a confusing selection process that they have no way of understanding. I have to say that I prefer mandrake over the others but, I think there is a better method of handling this. Mandrake should be split into a 'base' package and then all the other packages put into stand alone installs. What should be in the 'base'? I would suggest X, a trimmed down version of KDE and all the graphical configuration tools. Why not emacs and joe and all the other handy-dandy utilities? For the basic user, all those utilities just waste disk space. Mandrake is filling the 'Entry level Linux' for windows users who want to walk on the wild side. There should be packages that maintain all the different possible uses a person may want including things like Licq or Apache, but, these things (including VNC) should not be standard parts of the installation. The packages should be standalone in that they contain in one place all the libs and required files so that when you install the package you do not need to go looking for updates to other packages just so you can run it. This way, a end user can easily add to thier system without worrying about getting other unneeded programs that might be security holes. If a user wants emacs, install the emacs package, if they want to surf the web, add a program that does it. At our office, we remove all browsers and make sure the firewall stops all such traffic, but the standard linux installs include Netscape as a default choice. The people who have made this distribution have done an excellent job, but, too much of Redhats legacy of 'everything and the kitchen sink' has got it bogged down. What I am suggesting, is, stepping back and spliting the developement into two areas 1) a very basic linux system with very little on it. 2) add-on packages to extend the basic system. A basic system of 80-100 MB (even less if possible) that becomes the stepping stone of the distribution that allows everything else to be added would make downloads and installations faster and more reliable. A smaller system with limited items in it allow the user to learn one thing at a time instead of having everything in his face at once. I hope I have not offended anyone with this suggestion, and that perhaps it can lead to some discussion on how to make the distribution a little better. best regards Dalton Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
RE: [Cooker] Distribution Style
By my mind rpmdrake need internet connection ?? So what if updates or installs are necessary with the CD ? Eric -Original Message- From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Distribution Style First, there isn't a need to make these into a single package; you just need for the dependencies to get resolved as done by rpmdrake already (but not by kpackage). Second, the general idea of having a less overwhelming "basic" distirubtion to start is good, but make the kitchen sink available. I personally think that a look at Caldera OpenLinux is a pretty good model of how to do a user-friendly install. But I still want to be *able* to select packages at install time. AND (this is big . . ) I should be able select packages the *same* way at install time and afterwards. The install-time package installer lets you select multiple packages and resolves all dependencies, but I can't find anything after I install that does this: - kpackage allows multiple selection but doesn't resolve dependencies; - rpmdrake resolves dependencies but doesn't allow multiple selection. And I find both of them unnecessarily awkward in terms of "just finding" my cdrom packages, though that may be my own fault due to customization I've done. On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, you wrote: | I agree with you.. for instance what does joe computer user want with | sendmail for instance since he most likely is used to use his isp's | mailserver as smtp server.. | | I hate to say this.. but take a look at windows and see what is installed at | the start.. very little infact.. | | It would be alot cooler to have a nice menu some OBVIOUS place where all the | packages that can be installed is listed. And there should be 2 levels of | that menu aswell (atleast) so you would have to select like advanced to get | to all the packages. | | As I see it now it is a bit too hard to get hold of the packages after I | install my system. (I am speaking of joe computer user here mind you :). And | I think the descriptions should be even more informative than they are. The | description should be worked out with an enduser and not merely by us geeks. | | Almost no joe computer user will ever want any -devel packages but he of | course installs it right away since he has no idea that he wont need it. | | And he probably wonders why his newly installed linux machine has 15-20 | different text editors. | (The really funny thing is that the most user friendly of them 'pico' is | included in a mailreader and not as a text editor). | | I can probably go on all night with things to point out.. but I guess you | guys get it. | | The new graphical installer takes you far.. but it is still not as easy as | corel linux for instance.. | you need to go the last mile aswell. | | I would like to think that we (the users on cooker) can help you guys out in | selecting wich packages should go in the 'base' or what we should call it. | | | my 12 cents.. | Michael Irving | - Original Message - | From: "Dalton Calford" [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:12 PM | Subject: [Cooker] Distribution Style | | | I have been using Mandrake since version 5.3, in fact, I learned linux | via mandrake and have always supported the distribution (yes, even with | buying copies...) | | The one thing that I found as a begginer and even now that I am getting | truly familiar with the system, is that Mandrake, like most of the linux | distributions, is suffering from software bloat. | | Too much is included with the base system. It confuses the user. | Alot gets installed, and never gets used. | A new user does not know what is needed and what isn't but they must | either accept the few hundred meg of software or go through a confusing | selection process that they have no way of understanding. | | I have to say that I prefer mandrake over the others but, I think there | is a better method of handling this. | | Mandrake should be split into a 'base' package and then all the other | packages put into stand alone installs. | | What should be in the 'base'? | I would suggest X, a trimmed down version of KDE and all the graphical | configuration tools. | | Why not emacs and joe and all the other handy-dandy utilities? | | For the basic user, all those utilities just waste disk space. | Mandrake is filling the 'Entry level Linux' for windows users who want | to walk on the wild side. | | There should be packages that maintain all the different possible uses a | person may want including things like Licq or Apache, but, these things | (including VNC) should not be standard parts of the installation. | | The packages should be standalone in that they contain
[Cooker] Install Issues
I am using an Ultra ATA/66 HD with an Abit BP6 motherboard and really like the speed improvement over ATA/33 in windows. I saw that Red Hat 6.2 was out and downloaded just to find that it has no support for Ultra ATA/66. I know you have said that Mandrake cooker now supports Ultra ATA/66. I downloaded cooker and tried to install it from my HD using the hd.img but it crashes with some termination error 11 thing at the select partion and path screen no matter what I type. I'll burn it to a cd, but it's 773 MB and I was wondering what is safe to cut out so it will fit. I know people have asked this question before but I don't remember. Thanks for the help! Eric H
Re: [Cooker] anybody else get the nis working?
Sorry, I don't have linux in front of me right now but you can fix it by opening up the ypserve Makefile and scroll downing somewhere around 3/4 of the way down. You will see sections that say passwd.userid and group.userid (or something very similar). Once you find the group. section there are two parts. The top half is if you merge the shadow or something with it and then the bottom half is if you don't and thats the part with the extra @ symbols in place. By looking at the error messages and the first set of group.userid you can locate the wild @'s. If I can remember to look at the file while at work I'll be more specific. Hope this helps. Eric H Roger wrote: any specific info on the yp Makefile? with the 2 extra "@", or is this updated in one of the cooker rpm's (yp*.rpm) to where i should just update with that particular rpm. etc. On Mon, 07 Feb 2000, you wrote: Ya, I got NIS working with Mandrake 7.0. It sure was a bitch though because they wrote the makefile wrong. You get that "Domain not bound" error when you do not have your NIS database built. You have to type /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m You then follow the instructions and it will attempt to build your database. Unless yours is different then mine, it gave me two 'Command not found' errors while trying to build the group part. Its because there are two extra @ symbols in the makefile that shouldn't be there. After you remove them it will build correctly. Then I had the problem where the clients knew the server was there and that the password and group data bases existed but it wouldn't let anyone login. After playing with it a bit I found that you have to set merge the shadow with the password to 'true' in the makefile as well. Not sure about the groups tho. You might have to do those too. See the NIS howto for more information. I had to read it like 5 times before I finally understood what it was saying. -- Sent from: Lattitude (deg):32.7130 Longitude (deg):-117.1530 Altitude (ft): 410.0 GMT to Local (hrs): -8.0 (daylight savings enabled) Created with Linux-Mandrake 7.0! http://www.linux-mandrake.com/ Currently Beta Testing Mandrake Ver 7.0
Re: [Cooker] anybody else get the nis working?
Ya, I got NIS working with Mandrake 7.0. It sure was a bitch though because they wrote the makefile wrong. You get that "Domain not bound" error when you do not have your NIS database built. You have to type /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m You then follow the instructions and it will attempt to build your database. Unless yours is different then mine, it gave me two 'Command not found' errors while trying to build the group part. Its because there are two extra @ symbols in the makefile that shouldn't be there. After you remove them it will build correctly. Then I had the problem where the clients knew the server was there and that the password and group data bases existed but it wouldn't let anyone login. After playing with it a bit I found that you have to set merge the shadow with the password to 'true' in the makefile as well. Not sure about the groups tho. You might have to do those too. See the NIS howto for more information. I had to read it like 5 times before I finally understood what it was saying.
[Cooker] Cooker cooked itself!
Well, I had to format and reinstall last night when cooker screwed up something in my video drivers. I didn't get to view the full message, but it was definetely a bug in the drivers for my ATI XPert98 card. Screen started bootup sequence, then just began to flash when it got to loading video. Froze solid at that point. Next time I'll have to remember to boot to Be and check the error logs... Eric Lusk([EMAIL PROTECTED]) h. I think The Chicken is listening. ___ To get your own FREE ZDNet onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com
Re: [Cooker] ZDNET TV- Silicon Spin
They just know that without Windows and its endless problems, their tech support shows wouldn't be necessary, and they'd be out of jobs. Eric Lusk([EMAIL PROTECTED]) h. I think The Chicken is listening. stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Roger wrote: Never heard of a show so anti-linux until i saw this at ~4.00 am pst on ZDNET TV never heard of a tv show about linux ! srp ___ To get your own FREE ZDNet onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com
[Cooker] I had a bug???
I installed the "Mandrake 7.0-BETA (Oxygen)" On my systemusing "Linux-4-Windows" several times and each time I got to the "Install System" part of the install and it would lockup when it got to the part "GNU.libc" file. Also when I went to make a bootdisk with "Rawwrite" It did not work. Rawwrite gave me a message of; LoadLibrary16 failed Do you think the copy of the OS that I downloaded and burnedcould be bad or is it a bug? If you need any info on my system please send me a e-mail at; [EMAIL PROTECTED] The reason why I am using the BETA version is that I am using the "Sound-Blaster Live Value" and the "ATI all-in-wonder 128 AGP with 16MB of ram" and no other Linux OS but SUSE has the drivers for the both of them. I am thinking that this version would have them. I have always used the Mandrake version of the Linux OS. Mandrake is the most easy to use and setup Linux OS that I have downloaded. I hope this in some way helps you and look foward to the full version. Eric E. Champine
[Cooker] Problems with advanced extranet server
I just upgraded to Mankdrake 6.1 which apparently installed the advanced extranet server version of Apache. Now none of my php pages work! They were fine with the earlier version of Apache/phpmodule. The error I now get is: Fatal error: midgard module not found in - on line 0 The extranet site stated that this was the proper list to post problems and bugs related to that version of Apache. Anyone out there have a suggestion as to what might cause this and a solution? Thanks. Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
Re: [Cooker] Problems with advanced extranet server
Install the Midgard packages. There are some dependencies. I don't exactly remember, but you need to install about 4 or 5 RPMS from the CD related to Midgard. This should work. Thanks much for the info! However, I give up, what is midgard? Snooping around in the Apache directories it appears to be some sort of replacement for the the regular php module. What is it and why would I want it to replace a standard php module? Regards, Eric Mings Ph.D.
