Re: Sound not working with 8.2 and OldWorld G3

[Stew Benedict]

On Sun, 21 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote:

> Le dim 20/07/2003 à 13:37, Christiaan Welvaart a écrit :
> > On 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > Sound doesn't seem to working or recognized by the installation of 8.2
> > > on my G3 OldWorld. Any pointers, hints, etc ?
> > 
> > I get the best results with ALSA, but I don't know if the version in the
> > kernel you use is recent enough. You should probably upgrade to 9.1 ...
> > just do:
> > modprobe snd-pcm-oss
> > modprobe snd-card-awacs
> > modprobe snd-powermac
> > 
> 
> OK, thanks, I'll try this out and see what happens. I don't really want
> to upgrade to 9.1 though, it took me long enough to get the 8.2 CDs from
> MandrakeSoft in the first place.
> 

Should you want the OSS driver, it's dmasound_pmac.  Works OK on all my 
Apple machines.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ grep sound /etc/modules.conf
alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_pmac

The alias may have been slightly different in 8.2.  That's from 9.1 and I 
don't have an 8.2 install handy at the moment.

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Re: Sound not working with 8.2 and OldWorld G3

[Alex Thurgood]

Le dim 20/07/2003 à 13:37, Christiaan Welvaart a écrit :
> On 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > Sound doesn't seem to working or recognized by the installation of 8.2
> > on my G3 OldWorld. Any pointers, hints, etc ?
> 
> I get the best results with ALSA, but I don't know if the version in the
> kernel you use is recent enough. You should probably upgrade to 9.1 ...
> just do:
> modprobe snd-pcm-oss
> modprobe snd-card-awacs
> modprobe snd-powermac
> 

OK, thanks, I'll try this out and see what happens. I don't really want
to upgrade to 9.1 though, it took me long enough to get the 8.2 CDs from
MandrakeSoft in the first place.


Alex
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Re: Sound not working with 8.2 and OldWorld G3

[Christiaan Welvaart]

On 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote:

> Hi all,
> Sound doesn't seem to working or recognized by the installation of 8.2
> on my G3 OldWorld. Any pointers, hints, etc ?

I get the best results with ALSA, but I don't know if the version in the
kernel you use is recent enough. You should probably upgrade to 9.1 ...
just do:
modprobe snd-pcm-oss
modprobe snd-card-awacs
modprobe snd-powermac

Only one of the last two modules is present, depends on the alsa driver
version.

ALSA comes up with volume muted by default, you can get sound working by
launching alsamixer in a terminal. Unmute "master", and turn up the volume
on "master" and (1st?) "headphone". I use gnome-alsamixer but I doubt you
have it on your 8.2 CDs (would be in contrib).


Christiaan

Re: sound on ibook 2002 w/ 9.1 beta 2

[Christian Walther]

Oops, that should have gone to the list, no to you personally... Is  
there a reason why you are using a reply-to header?

modprobe  dmasound_pmac
/lib/modules/2.4.20-2mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/dmasound/ 
dmasound_pmac.o.gz: init_module: No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters,  
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
  You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
modprobe: insmod  
/lib/modules/2.4.20-2mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/dmasound/ 
dmasound_pmac.o.gz failed
modprobe: insmod dmasound_pmac failed

I'm using the benh kernel because thats the only one that would aloow  
the installer to work.  Also, there are no entries in /dev/sound.   
It's an empty directory.

"/lib/modules/2.4.20-2mdk/..." doesn't look like you're really using  
the benh kernel. Even if you use benh for the installer, the installed  
system by default uses the 2.4.20-2mdk kernel. You have to install it  
manually from the CD (or even better, use the newer version from  
).

I had the same problem with 2.4.20-2mdk on my 867MHz TiBook, but with  
benh-2.4.20-5mdk, it works fine.

 -Christian

Re: sound file "preview"

[Stew Benedict]

On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Anne et Bertrand wrote:

> This bug has years for me, and I've never seen it solved.
> 
> I don't think it is a nautilus specific bug, but it is obvious in
> nautilus.
> When you "preview" some of my wav files (not all of them), by putting
> the pointer above it,  the preview is an horrible scraaatch which
> kills your ears. Especially with sound files I had recorded with MacOS.
> Or with some files in /usr/share/sounds : Kde files sounds right, but 
> gnome2 files scratch.
> 
> That's why I think it could be an endianess problem. I think this is a
> sox bug. Any idea ?
> 

That's what I thought before too, but others didn't feel that was the
case.  I started to look at it and got sidetracked with some other issue
;(


Stew Benedict

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Re: Sound

[Quentin Mason]

Hi,

> On 10 Oct 2001 16:11:03 -0500, Michael Weisman wrote:
> > My G4 Sawtooth plays sound through the internal speaker, even when something
> > is plugged into the speaker jack on the back. I have had this problem with
> > every distro I have tried (Linux/PPC, SuSe, Yellow Dog, and Mandrake).
> > Anyone know of a fix for this?

> You can add the iMac to that. In addition, both internal and external
> speakers continue to play even when headphones are plugged in.

There is no fix, it is a feature.  Actually MacOS detects that you have
plugged in the headphones and switches the speakers off in software.  The
simple fix is to use the mixer to adjust the different sound levels.  
There is a separate slider for headphones.  I do not have either of these
machines but you could try the mixers and hope that there are independent
internal and external controls.  Take your pick from aumix, xmixer, kmix,
gmix etc

Good luck,

Q.

If you have a microphone attached then turning up the sound-in and the
sound-out can allow you to communicate with dogs + bats!

Re: Sound

[J. B.]

On 10 Oct 2001 16:11:03 -0500, Michael Weisman wrote:
> My G4 Sawtooth plays sound through the internal speaker, even when something
> is plugged into the speaker jack on the back. I have had this problem with
> every distro I have tried (Linux/PPC, SuSe, Yellow Dog, and Mandrake).
> Anyone know of a fix for this?
> -- 
> Michael Weisman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> While the acts of the terrorists will forever be seared into my mind, the
> answer cannot be more of the same.
> 
> 
You can add the iMac to that. In addition, both internal and external speakers 
continue to play even when headphones are plugged in.


Barry

Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB> > pre-install sound-slot-0 modprobe i2c-keywest
SB> > alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_pmac
SB> >
SB>
SB> Sounds reasonable - I don't have an iBook2 to try it.
SB>
SB> Stew Benedict

That does not work, but this does:

  below dmasound_pmac i2c-keywest
  alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_pmac

Using "below sound-slot-0 i2c-keywest" will not work because the
/etc/init.d/sound script will scan the modules.conf file for "sound-slot"
but will not load "sound-slot-0" (which I think it should), but instead
will load what stands after it.

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB> > pre-install sound-slot-0 modprobe i2c-keywest
SB> > alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_pmac
SB>
SB> Sounds reasonable - I don't have an iBook2 to try it.

I just want to keep things compatible in case of an upgrade, as I have
other things to do in life than tweak my workstation all day... :-)

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Stew Benedict]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:
> 
> SB> Installer sets up the sound card device - when it can.
> 
> Okay, it didn't for me, so to have Mandrake auto-load the sound for me at
> boot I should do:
> 

Yours is a special case - that machine did not exist when I did the
installer work, and we don't have a sound driver for it.

> pre-install sound-slot-0 modprobe i2c-keywest
> alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_pmac
> 

Sounds reasonable - I don't have an iBook2 to try it.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB>
SB> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:
SB>
SB> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:
SB> >
SB> > SB> Nice,
SB> >
SB> > The reason you can't do insmod is because when you mobprobe i2c-keywest it
SB> > will also load some i2c-core modules that it need. insmod will only load
SB> > the i2c-keywest module and that will result in missing symbols.
SB> >
SB> > SB> We've been using sound-slot-0, rather than just sound:
SB> > SB>
SB> > SB> alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_awacs (on my Powerbook - from the installer)
SB> >
SB> > "from the installer"?
SB> >
SB>
SB> Installer sets up the sound card device - when it can.

Okay, it didn't for me, so to have Mandrake auto-load the sound for me at
boot I should do:

pre-install sound-slot-0 modprobe i2c-keywest
alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_pmac

???

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Stew Benedict]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:
> 
> SB> Nice,
> 
> The reason you can't do insmod is because when you mobprobe i2c-keywest it
> will also load some i2c-core modules that it need. insmod will only load
> the i2c-keywest module and that will result in missing symbols.
> 
> SB> We've been using sound-slot-0, rather than just sound:
> SB>
> SB> alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_awacs (on my Powerbook - from the installer)
> 
> "from the installer"?
> 

Installer sets up the sound card device - when it can.

> Should I be using dmasounc_awacs instead of dmasound_pmac as well? Isn't
> the _pmac module a layer above _awacs (that is awacs is part of pmac) or
> am I out bicycling (which is a Swedish expression for "being out on a
> limb")... ???
> 

Different kernel - there is no pmac in 2.4.4 from kernel.org.

> Is it the /etc/rc.d/inet.d/sound that handles the loading of this module?
> (I.e. "modprobe sound-slot-0"?) Otherwise -slot-0 seems to be an ALSA
> invention to handle several sound cards...
> 

x86 kernel includes the alsa drivers - I believe it is setup this way to
accomodate either.  Pixel told me to use this nomenclature when setting up
the PPC driver.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Andreas Steffens]

Hi,

macserial seem to work !

Cheers

Andreas

Stew Benedict wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:
> 
>> Henrik Edlund wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:
>>> 
>>> AS> Hi, it is only which modules to load, which ttyS? to tell to the tool,
>>> AS> not how to configure the modem ;-)
>>> 
>>> modprobe serial
>>> 
>>> /dev/modem (or /dev/ttyS0 if it isn't linked
>> 
>> well modprobe serial works,
>> 
>> /dev/ttyS0 not ;-(
>> 
> 
> Generally you will have better results with macserial.  Make sure you have
> the following alias in /etc/modules.conf:
> 
> alias serial macserial
> 
> And that the stock serial module does not load.
> 
> That said, there are supposed to be patches in the PPC kernel tree to
> properly support the iBook2 modem, that our kernel does not have.
> People have reported the modem works to some degree (responds to AT
> commands in minicom), but full connectivity is flakey.
> 
> Stew Benedict
> 

Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

HE> Should I be using dmasounc_awacs instead of dmasound_pmac as well? Isn't
HE> the _pmac module a layer above _awacs (that is awacs is part of pmac) or
HE> am I out bicycling (which is a Swedish expression for "being out on a
HE> limb")... ???

When running 2.4.10ben0 I only got dmasound_core and dmasound_pmac, no
_awacs.

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB> Nice,

The reason you can't do insmod is because when you mobprobe i2c-keywest it
will also load some i2c-core modules that it need. insmod will only load
the i2c-keywest module and that will result in missing symbols.

SB> We've been using sound-slot-0, rather than just sound:
SB>
SB> alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_awacs (on my Powerbook - from the installer)

"from the installer"?

Should I be using dmasounc_awacs instead of dmasound_pmac as well? Isn't
the _pmac module a layer above _awacs (that is awacs is part of pmac) or
am I out bicycling (which is a Swedish expression for "being out on a
limb")... ???

Is it the /etc/rc.d/inet.d/sound that handles the loading of this module?
(I.e. "modprobe sound-slot-0"?) Otherwise -slot-0 seems to be an ALSA
invention to handle several sound cards...

-- 
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"You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit
happens." -- Angelina Jolie

Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Stew Benedict]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:
> 
> AS> How to configure the sound than (in detail for dummies ;-)
> 
> Okay, it now works for me with both 2.4.9 and 2.4.10.
> 
> Steps:
> 
> > modprobe i2c-keywest
> > modprobe dmasound_pmac
> > aumix
> 
> You have to adjust the balance and volume. I like aumix, use what you
> prefer.
> 
> It is important not to do "insmod i2c-keywest" as that will seem to work
> but it will not. Also if you only load dmasound_pmac it will look like the
> i2c is loaded, but I think it loads the wrong one so the mixer will not
> work. So, you have to load i2c-keywest first and then dmasound_pmac. I
> guess in /etc/modules.conf this would work:
> 
> pre-install dmasound_pmac modprobe i2c-keywest
> alias sound dmasound_pmac
> 
> I don't know if Mandrake autoprobes "sound" if it exists, but well, I
> think my old Mandrake 6.1 did.
> 

Nice,

We've been using sound-slot-0, rather than just sound:

alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_awacs (on my Powerbook - from the installer)

Stew Benedict

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Stew Benedict]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:

> Henrik Edlund wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:
> > 
> > AS> Hi, it is only which modules to load, which ttyS? to tell to the tool,
> > AS> not how to configure the modem ;-)
> > 
> > modprobe serial
> > 
> > /dev/modem (or /dev/ttyS0 if it isn't linked
> 
> well modprobe serial works,
> 
> /dev/ttyS0 not ;-(
> 

Generally you will have better results with macserial.  Make sure you have
the following alias in /etc/modules.conf:

alias serial macserial

And that the stock serial module does not load.

That said, there are supposed to be patches in the PPC kernel tree to
properly support the iBook2 modem, that our kernel does not have.
People have reported the modem works to some degree (responds to AT
commands in minicom), but full connectivity is flakey.

Stew Benedict

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:

AS> Henrik Edlund wrote:
AS>
AS> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:
AS> >
AS> > AS> Hi, it is only which modules to load, which ttyS? to tell to the tool,
AS> > AS> not how to configure the modem ;-)
AS> >
AS> > modprobe serial
AS> >
AS> > /dev/modem (or /dev/ttyS0 if it isn't linked
AS>
AS> well modprobe serial works,
AS>
AS> /dev/ttyS0 not ;-(

Running 2.4.10?

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Andreas Steffens]

Henrik Edlund wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:
> 
> AS> Hi, it is only which modules to load, which ttyS? to tell to the tool,
> AS> not how to configure the modem ;-)
> 
> modprobe serial
> 
> /dev/modem (or /dev/ttyS0 if it isn't linked

well modprobe serial works,

/dev/ttyS0 not ;-(

> 
> AS> 
> AS>
> AS> I know,  but do not worry, I would like to get it running, to show the
> AS> people HEY, IT IS RUNNING !!!
> AS>
> AS> look where I am mailing from ;-)
> 
> Hehe.. okay... :-)
> 

Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:

AS> How to configure the sound than (in detail for dummies ;-)

Okay, it now works for me with both 2.4.9 and 2.4.10.

Steps:

> modprobe i2c-keywest
> modprobe dmasound_pmac
> aumix

You have to adjust the balance and volume. I like aumix, use what you
prefer.

It is important not to do "insmod i2c-keywest" as that will seem to work
but it will not. Also if you only load dmasound_pmac it will look like the
i2c is loaded, but I think it loads the wrong one so the mixer will not
work. So, you have to load i2c-keywest first and then dmasound_pmac. I
guess in /etc/modules.conf this would work:

pre-install dmasound_pmac modprobe i2c-keywest
alias sound dmasound_pmac

I don't know if Mandrake autoprobes "sound" if it exists, but well, I
think my old Mandrake 6.1 did.

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:

AS> Hi, it is only which modules to load, which ttyS? to tell to the tool,
AS> not how to configure the modem ;-)

modprobe serial

/dev/modem (or /dev/ttyS0 if it isn't linked).

AS> 
AS>
AS> I know,  but do not worry, I would like to get it running, to show the
AS> people HEY, IT IS RUNNING !!!
AS>
AS> look where I am mailing from ;-)

Hehe.. okay... :-)

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Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Andreas Steffens]

Hey Henrik,

Henrik Edlund wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:
> 
> AS> Ok, my iBook recognizes the MODEM that it is there (blabla Cobalt Modem)
> AS> but I do not know how to configure it.
> 
> I have not used a modem in 6 years so I am still waiting for my new free
> test subscribtion to a ISP that still does modems. When I get it I will
> test setting up a modem connection and see if it works.

Hi, it is only which modules to load, which ttyS? to tell to the tool, 
not how to configure the modem ;-)

> 
> AS> Regarding sound it looks like you are on it, 2 questions:
> AS>
> AS> Where will the new Kernel 2.4.10-pre10-ben0 be downloadable ?
> 
> You can find it at www.ppckernel.org, but remember it is not officially
> tested by anyone, so YMMV. Remember the Mandrake kernels have lots of
> patches and have gone through rigerious QA testing before getting released
> so you are on your own.
> 
> AS> How to configure the sound than (in detail for dummies ;-)
> 
> I am going to test 2.4.10-ben0 now (final 2.4.10) and see if it works with
> sound. I will post an update later.



I know,  but do not worry, I would like to get it running, to show the 
people HEY, IT IS RUNNING !!!

look where I am mailing from ;-)

Cheers

Andreas

> 

Re: Sound/Modem WAS: Re: XF86config-4 for iBook 2001

[Henrik Edlund]

On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Andreas Steffens wrote:

AS> Ok, my iBook recognizes the MODEM that it is there (blabla Cobalt Modem)
AS> but I do not know how to configure it.

I have not used a modem in 6 years so I am still waiting for my new free
test subscribtion to a ISP that still does modems. When I get it I will
test setting up a modem connection and see if it works.

AS> Regarding sound it looks like you are on it, 2 questions:
AS>
AS> Where will the new Kernel 2.4.10-pre10-ben0 be downloadable ?

You can find it at www.ppckernel.org, but remember it is not officially
tested by anyone, so YMMV. Remember the Mandrake kernels have lots of
patches and have gone through rigerious QA testing before getting released
so you are on your own.

AS> How to configure the sound than (in detail for dummies ;-)

I am going to test 2.4.10-ben0 now (final 2.4.10) and see if it works with
sound. I will post an update later.

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Re: Sound and iBook2

[Henrik Edlund]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB> Ibook2 sound is still iffy at best and there is no support for it in the
SB> Mandrake kernel.  I worked with another user setting up the Alsa driver
SB> and we got close, but not quite.  Your current choices are:
SB>
SB> hadess has a hacked driver that is supposes to work - check penguinppc.org
SB> alsa from cvs

I am going to try with ALSA cvs. Is there DEVFS support in the 8.0ppc
kernel?

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Re: Sound and iBook2

[Henrik Edlund]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Stew Benedict wrote:

SB> Ibook2 sound is still iffy at best and there is no support for it in the
SB> Mandrake kernel.  I worked with another user setting up the Alsa driver
SB> and we got close, but not quite.  Your current choices are:
SB>
SB> hadess has a hacked driver that is supposes to work - check penguinppc.org
SB> alsa from cvs
SB> Olaf has a SuSE kernel with support in it too I hear
SB>
SB> Networking should be working.

Ok. Thanks.

I can report success with both "install-aty128fb" and "install-atyfb" on
my iBook2. "install-net" hangs when yaboot tries to load the kernel
though. Had to manually boot the CD via firmware as pressing C did not
work (works for all other bootable CDs though).

As I heard the text install was buggy I tried the graphical install. It is
a pain the ass to use. I really liked the text install in Mandrake 6.1.
I liked the "list all packages in alphabetical order" though, made it
easier to step through every package and select/deselected it (I want a
clean install). They keyboard control of it (needed for working through
the list fast) is not very good though.

There is a lot of crap installed even though I select "expert". I will
have to spend a lot of time cleaning all weird setup and "security"
scripts, so I can setup my own stuff without being disturbed by linuxconf.

I tried several times in "Control Panel" to get rid of that Aurora thingy
(which is actually made by a student at the CS department where I work)
as I want to see the real information. It failed. I still got Aurora when
shutting down and starting up.

Well, that is some reflections. I hope 8.1 will be a bit more polished. I
know the first platform release is hard to get rally sharp. Keep up the
good work!

Regards, Henrik

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Re: Sound and iBook2

[Stew Benedict]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Jerry Goldstein wrote:

> On 9/18/01 2:02 PM, Henrik Edlund spoketh:
> 
> >Okay, I have done a first test installation. But sound is not working.
> >Should it work? Network is not working either for some reason.
> >Anyone can share some experiences?
> 
> I don't have sound working on my iBook2 either. Networking is fine (at 
> least DSL via Ethernet is OK--haven't tried PPP dialup).
> 
> Jerry
> 

iBook2 modem is also problematic =(

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Re: Sound and iBook2

[Stew Benedict]

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Henrik Edlund wrote:

> Okay, I have done a first test installation. But sound is not working.
> Should it work? Network is not working either for some reason.
> Anyone can share some experiences?
> 

Ibook2 sound is still iffy at best and there is no support for it in the
Mandrake kernel.  I worked with another user setting up the Alsa driver
and we got close, but not quite.  Your current choices are:

hadess has a hacked driver that is supposes to work - check penguinppc.org
alsa from cvs
Olaf has a SuSE kernel with support in it too I hear

Networking should be working.

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Re: Sound and iBook2

[Jerry Goldstein]

On 9/18/01 2:02 PM, Henrik Edlund spoketh:

>Okay, I have done a first test installation. But sound is not working.
>Should it work? Network is not working either for some reason.
>Anyone can share some experiences?

I don't have sound working on my iBook2 either. Networking is fine (at 
least DSL via Ethernet is OK--haven't tried PPP dialup).

Jerry

RE: Sound, printing and cdrw

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On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Brice D Ruth wrote:

> I run in runlevel 5 and switching between VTs works fine - even w/
> MOL. 
>  Since I have linux keycodes enabled, ctrl-alt(option)-Fx does the
> trick for me, previously, ctrl-command-Fx was necessary.
>
> This is on beta1, not RC1 - still haven't taken the time to do that
> ... still haven't taken the time to update Mac OS X, either ...
> *blech* too much work!
>

Thanks Brice - If you're already installed, there's not much benefit
of
going to RC1 as most of the changes were to the installer.  You could
always update the packages that were updated for bugs/security issues
seperately.

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[sbenedict]

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Brice D Ruth wrote:

> I run in runlevel 5 and switching between VTs works fine - even w/ MOL.
>  Since I have linux keycodes enabled, ctrl-alt(option)-Fx does the trick
> for me, previously, ctrl-command-Fx was necessary.
>
> This is on beta1, not RC1 - still haven't taken the time to do that ...
> still haven't taken the time to update Mac OS X, either ... *blech* too
> much work!
>

Thanks Brice - If you're already installed, there's not much benefit of
going to RC1 as most of the changes were to the installer.  You could
always update the packages that were updated for bugs/security issues
seperately.

Stew

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[sbenedict]

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Jeff Hergan wrote:

> On Monday 20 August 2001 09:13, Brice D Ruth wrote:
> > The problem doesn't seem to be the driver, in this case - it appears to
> > be the format that the data is sent to the printer.  From what Vincent
> > wrote, the USB system picks up the wrong format to send the data - hence
> > the problem.
> >
> That's right.
> And the solution is to rebuild the kernel with
> a minor hack on printer.c.
> But if the make modules part of the kernel build fails...
> well, you're just outta luck.  And that's what's happening to me.
>

Seems the kver stuff from the original kernel build is the issue.  I was
getting the same error here on a clean kernel install:

rm -f /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/*
make dep
make vmlinux
make modules

seems to do the trick

rpm -e kernel-source and rpm -i:

or more traditionally:

make mrproper
make menuconfig
make dep
make vmlinux
make modules

also seems to work

BTW - I switch back and forth from the VT to X fine using XFree - I think
when running runlevel 5 though, it kills your X session.

Stew Benedict

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Brice D Ruth]

I run in runlevel 5 and switching between VTs works fine - even w/ MOL. 
 Since I have linux keycodes enabled, ctrl-alt(option)-Fx does the trick 
for me, previously, ctrl-command-Fx was necessary.

This is on beta1, not RC1 - still haven't taken the time to do that ... 
still haven't taken the time to update Mac OS X, either ... *blech* too 
much work!

-Brice

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Jeff Hergan wrote:
>
>>On Monday 20 August 2001 09:13, Brice D Ruth wrote:
>>
>>>The problem doesn't seem to be the driver, in this case - it appears to
>>>be the format that the data is sent to the printer.  From what Vincent
>>>wrote, the USB system picks up the wrong format to send the data - hence
>>>the problem.
>>>
>>That's right.
>>And the solution is to rebuild the kernel with
>>a minor hack on printer.c.
>>But if the make modules part of the kernel build fails...
>>well, you're just outta luck.  And that's what's happening to me.
>>
>
>Seems the kver stuff from the original kernel build is the issue.  I was
>getting the same error here on a clean kernel install:
>
>rm -f /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/*
>make dep
>make vmlinux
>make modules
>
>seems to do the trick
>
>rpm -e kernel-source and rpm -i:
>
>or more traditionally:
>
>make mrproper
>make menuconfig
>make dep
>make vmlinux
>make modules
>
>also seems to work
>
>BTW - I switch back and forth from the VT to X fine using XFree - I think
>when running runlevel 5 though, it kills your X session.
>
>Stew Benedict
>
>
>
>

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Jeff Hergan]

On Monday 20 August 2001 09:13, Brice D Ruth wrote:
> The problem doesn't seem to be the driver, in this case - it appears to
> be the format that the data is sent to the printer.  From what Vincent
> wrote, the USB system picks up the wrong format to send the data - hence
> the problem.
>
That's right.
And the solution is to rebuild the kernel with
a minor hack on printer.c.
But if the make modules part of the kernel build fails...
well, you're just outta luck.  And that's what's happening to me.

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Brice D Ruth]

The problem doesn't seem to be the driver, in this case - it appears to 
be the format that the data is sent to the printer.  From what Vincent 
wrote, the USB system picks up the wrong format to send the data - hence 
the problem.

-Brice

Vincent Danen wrote:

>On Sat Aug 18, 2001 at 12:09:34AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
>
>>>Can't help you with this...  I don't think there's much that can be
>>>done here until the appropriate drivers are written.  I've got a
>>>Lexmark Z22 (USB) that's connected to my mac machine and the drivers
>>>are experimental... color comes out great, but no black... very wird.
>>>
>>Vincent, 
>>
>>The 1200 is a postscript supporting printer.  No drivers are necessary.
>>
>
>Hmmm...  has he tried a generic postscript printer driver then?
>

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Vincent Danen]

On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 12:18:36AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:

> > > > Can't help you with this...  I don't think there's much that can be
> > > > done here until the appropriate drivers are written.  I've got a
> > > > Lexmark Z22 (USB) that's connected to my mac machine and the drivers
> > > > are experimental... color comes out great, but no black... very wird.
> > > 
> > > Vincent, 
> > > 
> > > The 1200 is a postscript supporting printer.  No drivers are necessary.
> > 
> > Hmmm...  has he tried a generic postscript printer driver then?
> 
> Read further down he figured it out but isn't able to get it to work on
> mandrake. :(

Yeah... saw that too... very odd stuff.  =(

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Vincent Danen]

On Sat Aug 18, 2001 at 12:09:34AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:

> > Can't help you with this...  I don't think there's much that can be
> > done here until the appropriate drivers are written.  I've got a
> > Lexmark Z22 (USB) that's connected to my mac machine and the drivers
> > are experimental... color comes out great, but no black... very wird.
> 
> Vincent, 
> 
> The 1200 is a postscript supporting printer.  No drivers are necessary.

Hmmm...  has he tried a generic postscript printer driver then?

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Ben Reser]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 07:45:42AM -0400, Jonathan Sailor wrote:
> I don't know how to get it to sound like the welcome sound it's
> supposed to. However, they're probably an option in the KDE Control
> Center to turn it off. Look for KDE_Logon or something like that.
> Sorry I can't be more specific, but I use Gnome.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vincent
> Danen
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Sound, printing and cdrw
> 
> > And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static
> > noise. How does one get sound up and running?
> 
> I get this to and it would be real nice to know how to get rid of
> it... =)

I've had the exact same problem ever since I was using Linux/PPC 2000
Q4.  I didn't figure out the problem till just a while ago.  It appears
that the sound system (arts) is not switching the endiness of the sound
files before it plays them.  Thus you get static.  This is apparently
fixed in KDE 2.2.

To get rid of the static from the startup and shutdown go into the KDE
ControlCenter.  Under LookNFeel go to System Notifications.  Then expand
out KDE System Notifications.  Expand out KDE is Starting Up and KDE is
Exiting.  Uncheck the Play Sound Boxes.  There are other System
Notifications that play sound here and you may desire to turn them off
as well.

Alternately you can check the Use external player box and put in
/usr/bin/play and it will play the sounds.  However, sometimes it's not
terribly timely with playing them.  At least for me the startup sound
plays a couple minutes into running KDE.  But it will work till we get
KDE 2.2.

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Dippy Black]

On the sound. I believe that changing to 8 bits sound was supposed to help. I 
think it is a kde version bug from what i read.

On Saturday 18 August 2001 06:45, you wrote:
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> I don't know how to get it to sound like the welcome sound it's
> supposed to. However, they're probably an option in the KDE Control
> Center to turn it off. Look for KDE_Logon or something like that.
> Sorry I can't be more specific, but I use Gnome.
>
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> Danen
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 3:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Sound, printing and cdrw
>
> On Fri Aug 17, 2001 at 05:27:49PM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> > Can someone help me with this?
> >
> > I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
> > During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet
> > 1200s was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
> > the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.
>
> Can't help you with this...  I don't think there's much that can be
> done here until the appropriate drivers are written.  I've got a
> Lexmark Z22 (USB) that's connected to my mac machine and the drivers
> are experimental... color comes out great, but no black... very wird.
>
> > And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static
> > noise. How does one get sound up and running?
>
> I get this to and it would be real nice to know how to get rid of
> it... =)
>
> > Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
> > But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
> > manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound
> > are two biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be
> > so kind.
>
> I suspect that it will work just the same as under x86.  Just run
> cdrecord --scanbus and you should see the dev entry for it.  Haven't
> tried it yet, but I see that the ide-scsi module is loaded so it
> should operate the same.
>
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RE: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Jonathan Sailor]

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I don't know how to get it to sound like the welcome sound it's
supposed to. However, they're probably an option in the KDE Control
Center to turn it off. Look for KDE_Logon or something like that.
Sorry I can't be more specific, but I use Gnome.

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On Fri Aug 17, 2001 at 05:27:49PM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:

> Can someone help me with this?
> 
> I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
> During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet
> 1200s was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
> the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.

Can't help you with this...  I don't think there's much that can be
done here until the appropriate drivers are written.  I've got a
Lexmark Z22 (USB) that's connected to my mac machine and the drivers
are experimental... color comes out great, but no black... very wird.

> And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static
> noise. How does one get sound up and running?

I get this to and it would be real nice to know how to get rid of
it... =)

> Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
> But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
> manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound
> are two biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be
> so kind.  

I suspect that it will work just the same as under x86.  Just run
cdrecord --scanbus and you should see the dev entry for it.  Haven't
tried it yet, but I see that the ide-scsi module is loaded so it
should operate the same.

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Stew Benedict]

On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Brice D Ruth wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> The output from your log is exactly what we're looking for.  Once usblp0 
> is registered, cups will be able to access it, properly.  Try going 
> through the CUPS config again - remember, if you restart, you need to 
> reload that printer module, since its not a permanent thing.  If you'd 
> like this done every time you boot, try appending the following line to 
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> 
> /sbin/modprobe printer
> 
Also /etc/rc.d/rc.modules is supposed to modprobe any modules listed by
name in /etc/modules.

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Jeff Hergan]

On Saturday 18 August 2001 01:56, you wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 01:35:26AM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> > I could really use a little hand-holding on this one--especially now that
> > I know it should work.
>
> The instructions are on that page.  Scroll down to the drivers.  Under
> postscript look for the link to Linux Mandrake instructions.  They
> should work for the PPC distribution.

OK  Now that helped a little.
I downloaded a new ppd file from the link that was on the sourceforge site 
(instead of using the one that cup-o-matic made).

I don't know the command for making it world readable, but I tried 
chmod go+w
I also restarted cups, and that showed me the new ppd file in
mandrake Control Center
I selected it.
Tested it.
Still it doesn't work :-\

>From /var/log/messages:

Aug 18 02:48:48 omnia DrakX: running: /etc/rc.d/init.d/cups start
Aug 18 02:48:48 omnia cups: cupsd startup succeeded
Aug 18 02:48:52 omnia DrakX: running: /sbin/modprobe.static printer
Aug 18 02:48:53 omnia modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6
Aug 18 02:48:54 omnia last message repeated 6 times
Aug 18 02:48:54 omnia DrakX: running: rmmod parport_pc
Aug 18 02:48:54 omnia DrakX: running: rmmod lp
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia DrakX: running: rmmod parport_probe
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia DrakX: running: rmmod parport
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia DrakX: running: /sbin/modprobe.static parport_pc
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia DrakX: running: /sbin/modprobe.static lp
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia DrakX: running: /sbin/modprobe.static parport_probe
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia DrakX: running: rmmod parport_probe
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6
Aug 18 02:48:55 omnia last message repeated 5 times
Aug 18 02:49:32 omnia DrakX: running: lpadmin -p lp -E -v usb:/dev/usb/lp0 -m 
HP/HP-LaserJet_1200-Postscript.ppd
Aug 18 02:49:34 omnia DrakX: running: /usr/bin/lpr-cups -Plp 
/usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps
Aug 18 02:50:00 omnia CROND[2652]: (root) CMD (   /sbin/rmmod -as)
Aug 18 02:50:07 omnia DrakX: default cancel_clicked
Aug 18 02:50:12 omnia DrakX: running: lpadmin -p lp -E -v usb:/dev/usb/lp0 -m 
HP-LaserJet_1200-Postscript.ppd
Aug 18 02:50:13 omnia DrakX: running: /usr/bin/lpr-cups -Plp 
/usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps
Aug 18 02:51:38 omnia DrakX: default cancel_clicked
Aug 18 02:51:42 omnia DrakX: running: lpadmin -p lp -E -v usb:/dev/usb/lp0 -m 
HP/HP-LaserJet_1200-Postscript.ppd
Aug 18 02:52:40 omnia DrakX: running: /usr/bin/lpr-cups -Plp 
/usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps
Aug 18 02:53:27 omnia DrakX: default cancel_clicked
Aug 18 02:53:34 omnia DrakX: running: lpadmin -p lp -E -v usb:/dev/usb/lp0 -m 
HP/HP-LaserJet_1200-Postscript.ppd
Aug 18 02:53:37 omnia DrakX: running: /usr/bin/lpr-cups -Plp 
/usr/share/cups/data/testprint.ps
Aug 18 02:53:56 omnia cups: cupsd shutdown succeeded
Aug 18 02:53:57 omnia cups: cupsd startup succeeded
Aug 18 02:54:00 omnia modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-6
[root@omnia jeff]#


Do I need to install all that HP advanced printer utility stuff?  On this 
page:
http://hp.sourceforge.net/uhowto/eps-uhowto.php

I saw this there:

On my Linux-Mandrake system, printtool starts CUPS. What's wrong?
A: The draxdrake package symlinks /usr/bin/printtool to 
/usr/sbin/printerdrake. The enhanced printtool is installed in 
/usr/sbin/printtool. If your PATH has /usr/bin before usr/sbin, then 
draxdrake will start instead of printtool. 

Doers all of this mean I should not be using cups?

If so, then how do I change it?

Sorry for the long barrage of questions.  Maybe I'm just missing something 
obvious :-/

Thanks,
Jeff

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Ben Reser]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 01:00:57AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:
> Can't help you with this...  I don't think there's much that can be
> done here until the appropriate drivers are written.  I've got a
> Lexmark Z22 (USB) that's connected to my mac machine and the drivers
> are experimental... color comes out great, but no black... very wird.

Vincent, 

The 1200 is a postscript supporting printer.  No drivers are necessary.

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Vincent Danen]

On Fri Aug 17, 2001 at 05:27:49PM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:

> Can someone help me with this?
> 
> I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
> During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet 1200s
> was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
> the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.

Can't help you with this...  I don't think there's much that can be
done here until the appropriate drivers are written.  I've got a
Lexmark Z22 (USB) that's connected to my mac machine and the drivers
are experimental... color comes out great, but no black... very wird.

> And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static noise.
> How does one get sound up and running?

I get this to and it would be real nice to know how to get rid of
it... =)

> Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
> But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
> manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound are two
> biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be so kind.

I suspect that it will work just the same as under x86.  Just run
cdrecord --scanbus and you should see the dev entry for it.  Haven't
tried it yet, but I see that the ide-scsi module is loaded so it
should operate the same.

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Ben Reser]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 01:35:26AM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> I could really use a little hand-holding on this one--especially now that I 
> know it should work.

The instructions are on that page.  Scroll down to the drivers.  Under
postscript look for the link to Linux Mandrake instructions.  They
should work for the PPC distribution.

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Jeff Hergan]

On Saturday 18 August 2001 00:57, you wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 12:32:37AM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> > Anyway, there is no driver for HP Laserjet 1200 there.
> > I tried Laserjet Series, and Laserjet cups v1.1 but neither works at
> > all--no response from the printer at all.
>
> Hope this helps.
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1200

Well...it makes me think the printer _should_ work.
But I've been doing a lot of reading, and trying a lot of things
and I just can't get it to work.
I used the cups-o-matic thing to generate a ppd file, then copied the file
to /usr/share/cups/model/HP
but it doesn't show up in Mandrake control center...

This cups stuff is completely new to me and I just don't get it.

I could really use a little hand-holding on this one--especially now that I 
know it should work.

Anyone?  Please?

Thanks for your help so far.

Jeff

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Ben Reser]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 12:32:37AM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> Anyway, there is no driver for HP Laserjet 1200 there.
> I tried Laserjet Series, and Laserjet cups v1.1 but neither works at all--no
> response from the printer at all.

Hope this helps.
http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1200

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Jeff Hergan]

Hi Brice (and all)
Thanks again for your help.
It looks like usblp0 gets detected during startup, but I added
the line to rclocal anyway.
I did as you suggested and reconfigured via the Mandrake Control Center.
There are about 100 HP drivers there.  I tried about 30 of them.
None work.  But--and I think this is good--a couple of the drivers did at 
least make the light flash on the printer--so something is getting
sent to the printer with a couple of the drivers.
I think

Anyway, there is no driver for HP Laserjet 1200 there.
I tried Laserjet Series, and Laserjet cups v1.1 but neither works at all--no
response from the printer at all.

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,
Jeff


On Friday 17 August 2001 22:10, you wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> The output from your log is exactly what we're looking for.  Once usblp0
> is registered, cups will be able to access it, properly.  Try going
> through the CUPS config again - remember, if you restart, you need to
> reload that printer module, since its not a permanent thing.  If you'd
> like this done every time you boot, try appending the following line to
> /etc/rc.d/rc.local
>
> /sbin/modprobe printer
>
> That  should take care of loading the module, so the printer should
> always be available.  Once I had gotten my Xerox M750 detected in the
> USB subsystem, the printer control panel in the 'Mandrake Control
> Center' - in the 'Hardware' section, was able to configure it properly.
>  If you select 'local printer' when you add a printer to the system, I
> believe it should pick up on usblp0.  If it doesn't, lemme know.  Once
> it does this, it should try to find an appropriate driver - good luck
> with this!
>
> -Brice
>
> Jeff Hergan wrote:
> >On Friday 17 August 2001 18:38, Brice D Ruth wrote:
> >>Hey there - I think I can help you w/ most of these things, but let's
> >>try to tackle one at a time, eh? :)
> >>
> >>First off - with the USB printer, is your printer being recognized by
> >>the USB subsystem?  This would probably require you inserting the
> >>'printer' module - something like this should do the trick:
> >
> >Thank you!  I appreciate the help.
> >
> >># /sbin/modprobe printer
> >
> >This yeilds nothing .
> >
> >>To see if that recognized your printer, try this (right after the above)
> >>
> >># tail /var/log/messages
> >
> >I see nothing related to printer in /var/log/messages.  Except this:
> >
> >[root@omnia jeff]# more /var/log/messages | grep printer
> >Aug 17 16:15:15 omnia kernel: printer.c: usblp0: device node registration
> >failed
> >Aug 17 16:15:15 omnia kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer
> >dev 2
> > if 0 alt 0
> >Aug 17 16:15:09 omnia usb: Loading USB printer succeeded
> >Aug 17 16:15:25 omnia xinetd[882]: printer disabled, removing
> >[root@omnia jeff]#
> >
> >>and see if it says anything about your printer, e.g. that it was bound
> >>to something like usblp0
> >>
> >>Right back!
> >>-Brice
> >
> >Thank you again, Brice!
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >>Jeff Hergan wrote:
> >>>Can someone help me with this?
> >>>
> >>>I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
> >>>During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet 1200s
> >>>was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
> >>>the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.
> >>>
> >>>And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static noise.
> >>>How does one get sound up and running?
> >>>
> >>>Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
> >>>But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
> >>>manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound are
> >>> two biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be so kind.
> >>>
> >>>Thanks (and great job, Stew!)
> >>>
> >>>Jeff
> >>>
> >>>Jeffrey P. Hergan, Ph. D.
> >>>Adjunct Professor of Philosophy
> >>>Saint Xavier University
> >>>Chicago

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Brice D Ruth]

Hi Jeff,

The output from your log is exactly what we're looking for.  Once usblp0 
is registered, cups will be able to access it, properly.  Try going 
through the CUPS config again - remember, if you restart, you need to 
reload that printer module, since its not a permanent thing.  If you'd 
like this done every time you boot, try appending the following line to 
/etc/rc.d/rc.local

/sbin/modprobe printer

That  should take care of loading the module, so the printer should 
always be available.  Once I had gotten my Xerox M750 detected in the 
USB subsystem, the printer control panel in the 'Mandrake Control 
Center' - in the 'Hardware' section, was able to configure it properly. 
 If you select 'local printer' when you add a printer to the system, I 
believe it should pick up on usblp0.  If it doesn't, lemme know.  Once 
it does this, it should try to find an appropriate driver - good luck 
with this!

-Brice

Jeff Hergan wrote:

>On Friday 17 August 2001 18:38, Brice D Ruth wrote:
>
>>Hey there - I think I can help you w/ most of these things, but let's
>>try to tackle one at a time, eh? :)
>>
>>First off - with the USB printer, is your printer being recognized by
>>the USB subsystem?  This would probably require you inserting the
>>'printer' module - something like this should do the trick:
>>
>
>Thank you!  I appreciate the help.
>
>
>># /sbin/modprobe printer
>>
>
>This yeilds nothing .
>
>>To see if that recognized your printer, try this (right after the above)
>>
>># tail /var/log/messages
>>
>
>I see nothing related to printer in /var/log/messages.  Except this:
>
>[root@omnia jeff]# more /var/log/messages | grep printer
>Aug 17 16:15:15 omnia kernel: printer.c: usblp0: device node registration 
>failed
>Aug 17 16:15:15 omnia kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer 
>dev 2
> if 0 alt 0
>Aug 17 16:15:09 omnia usb: Loading USB printer succeeded
>Aug 17 16:15:25 omnia xinetd[882]: printer disabled, removing
>[root@omnia jeff]#
>
>>and see if it says anything about your printer, e.g. that it was bound
>>to something like usblp0
>>
>>Right back!
>>-Brice
>>
>
>Thank you again, Brice!
>
>Jeff
>
>>Jeff Hergan wrote:
>>
>>>Can someone help me with this?
>>>
>>>I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
>>>During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet 1200s
>>>was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
>>>the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.
>>>
>>>And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static noise.
>>>How does one get sound up and running?
>>>
>>>Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
>>>But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
>>>manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound are two
>>>biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be so kind.
>>>
>>>Thanks (and great job, Stew!)
>>>
>>>Jeff
>>>
>>>Jeffrey P. Hergan, Ph. D.
>>>Adjunct Professor of Philosophy
>>>Saint Xavier University
>>>Chicago
>>>
>

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Brice D Ruth]

rpm -qa | grep -i alsa

works quite well, too :)

Ben Reser wrote:

>On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:25:33PM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:
>
>>But I have no idea where to find the alsa rpms.  I'm assuming they're 
>>installed.  I do see a /usr/share/alsa directory...
>>
>
>rpm -q alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-lib-devel
>

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Ben Reser]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2001 at 07:25:33PM -0500, Jeff Hergan wrote:
> But I have no idea where to find the alsa rpms.  I'm assuming they're 
> installed.  I do see a /usr/share/alsa directory...

rpm -q alsa-lib alsa-utils alsa-lib-devel

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Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Jeff Hergan]

OK  Here's my /etc/modules.conf.
I wasn't sure what to do with the alias-sound-slot line.
I left as it was:

pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
alias usb-interface usb-ohci
alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_awacs
alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
alias eth0 gmac
#
#
#
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
# ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs
# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

But I have no idea where to find the alsa rpms.  I'm assuming they're 
installed.  I do see a /usr/share/alsa directory...

rpmfind.net and linuxppc.org don't have alsa for ppc.

Thanks again,
Jeff

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Brice D Ruth]

OK, now for the sound - this can get a bit tricky, so bear with me, 'k? 
 I have an iMac DV (late 2000) w/ sound working fine - so have hope :)

First, you should know that I use alsa for sound - so if you have 
something against alsa, this won't work for you.

Step one - configure /etc/modules.conf

My modules.conf looks like this:

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
# ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs
# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss



I left out entries for my network card, usb, and usb-storage drivers. 
 These are probably already in your modules.conf

So, getting this in and restarting should get alsa loaded - you also 
need to make sure that you have the alsa RPMs.  I have the following 
versions:

alsa-lib-devel-0.5.10-2mdk
alsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdk
alsa-lib-0.5.10-2mdk

you probably don't need the first, -devel-, but it won't hurt to have it 
installed, either.

Get to this point & write back!
-Brice

Jeff Hergan wrote:

>Can someone help me with this?
>
>I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
>During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet 1200s
>was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
>the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.
>
>And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static noise.
>How does one get sound up and running?
>
>Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
>But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
>manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound are two
>biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be so kind.
>
>Thanks (and great job, Stew!)
>
>Jeff
>
>Jeffrey P. Hergan, Ph. D.
>Adjunct Professor of Philosophy
>Saint Xavier University
>Chicago
>

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Jeff Hergan]

On Friday 17 August 2001 18:38, Brice D Ruth wrote:
> Hey there - I think I can help you w/ most of these things, but let's
> try to tackle one at a time, eh? :)
>
> First off - with the USB printer, is your printer being recognized by
> the USB subsystem?  This would probably require you inserting the
> 'printer' module - something like this should do the trick:
>

Thank you!  I appreciate the help.


> # /sbin/modprobe printer

This yeilds nothing .

>
> To see if that recognized your printer, try this (right after the above)
>
> # tail /var/log/messages
>

I see nothing related to printer in /var/log/messages.  Except this:

[root@omnia jeff]# more /var/log/messages | grep printer
Aug 17 16:15:15 omnia kernel: printer.c: usblp0: device node registration 
failed
Aug 17 16:15:15 omnia kernel: printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer 
dev 2
 if 0 alt 0
Aug 17 16:15:09 omnia usb: Loading USB printer succeeded
Aug 17 16:15:25 omnia xinetd[882]: printer disabled, removing
[root@omnia jeff]#

> and see if it says anything about your printer, e.g. that it was bound
> to something like usblp0
>
> Right back!
> -Brice

Thank you again, Brice!

Jeff

>
> Jeff Hergan wrote:
> >Can someone help me with this?
> >
> >I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
> >During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet 1200s
> >was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
> >the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.
> >
> >And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static noise.
> >How does one get sound up and running?
> >
> >Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
> >But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
> >manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound are two
> >biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be so kind.
> >
> >Thanks (and great job, Stew!)
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >Jeffrey P. Hergan, Ph. D.
> >Adjunct Professor of Philosophy
> >Saint Xavier University
> >Chicago

Re: Sound, printing and cdrw

[Brice D Ruth]

Hey there - I think I can help you w/ most of these things, but let's 
try to tackle one at a time, eh? :)

First off - with the USB printer, is your printer being recognized by 
the USB subsystem?  This would probably require you inserting the 
'printer' module - something like this should do the trick:

# /sbin/modprobe printer

To see if that recognized your printer, try this (right after the above)

# tail /var/log/messages

and see if it says anything about your printer, e.g. that it was bound 
to something like usblp0

Right back!
-Brice

Jeff Hergan wrote:

>Can someone help me with this?
>
>I'm trying to get an HP Laserjet 1200s (USB) running, using cups.
>During the install, it showed a list of drivers but HP Laserjet 1200s
>was not among them.  There's even an HP Laserjet utility in
>the Printing setup menu--but it just won't work.
>
>And the sound thing--when I start kde I hear that awful static noise.
>How does one get sound up and running?
>
>Finally the built-in cdrw in a new iMac.
>But I haven't looked for info yet--so maybe I'll read the friendly
>manual before I ask for help on that.  But the printing and sound are two
>biggies that I gotta get working asap, if someone would be so kind.
>
>Thanks (and great job, Stew!)
>
>Jeff
>
>Jeffrey P. Hergan, Ph. D.
>Adjunct Professor of Philosophy
>Saint Xavier University
>Chicago
>

Re: Sound Issues

[Brice D Ruth]

Hi there.  I'm short of time right now (have to get to the Farmer's Market
early :)) - but later today, I can sit down and work through this again -
I'll be on ICQ again and we can go at it from there.  If that sounds good,
let me know.

Brice

Dippy Black wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">I have been gone for awhile again. Brice you were trying to help me with the sound when I had to take off. I hope you have some more ideas. I ended up reinstalling mandrake as I botched trying to upgrade X and couldn't get it to run again so I am starting from scratch. I installed the arts packages and the alsa packages.Here is my lsmod:Module  Size  Used byppp_deflate44000   0  (autoclean)bsd_comp4768   0  (autoclean)ppp_async   8464   1  (autoclean)ppp_generic23072   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]macserial  38256   2  (autoclean)snd-pcm-oss45392   0  (autoclean) (unused)snd-pcm59488   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]snd-timer  11888   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]snd-mixer-oss  110!
56   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]snd29776   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-mixer-oss]soundcore   4880   0  [snd]supermount 39072   4  (autoclean)Here is my modules.conf:pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia startalias eth0 gmacalias usb-interface0 usb-ohcialias serial macserial# ALSA portionalias char-major-116 snd# OSS/Free portionalias char-major-14 soundcore# ALSA portionalias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs# OSS/Free portionalias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0# OSS/Free portion - card #1alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-ossalias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-ossalias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-ossHope you can help me out with this. I type amixer and get:amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory   Here is another error message I generate:[root@localhost dippy]# service alsa restartDoing alsactl to store mixer settings...   [  OK  ]Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 0.5.11):  [  OK  ]Starting ALSA version 0.5.11:insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.4-6.2mdk/alsa/snd.o: No such file or directoryinsmod: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.4-6.2mdk/alsa/snd.o failed awacs 0.  [  OK  ]Doing alsactl to restore mixer settings... [  OK  ]I tried the dmasound package that Stew put up. I got static after I ran that so I reverted back.On Friday 13 July 2001 09:51, you wrote:
  Hi Dippy,The relevant portion of my lsmod listing is:snd-seq-osssnd-seq-midi-eventsnd-seqsnd-seq-devicesnd-pcm-osssnd-pcm-pluginsnd-mixer-osssnd-card-awacssnd-mixersnd-pcmsnd-timersndsoundcore From here - you can see that you're missing alot of the alsa modules -snd-card-awacs, snd-mixer (this is why you can't use amixer),snd-pcm-plugin, snd-seq, snd-seq-device, snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq-oss.  I'm not entirely sure why these modules aren't loading foryou ... you might want to check and see that (a) you have them and (b)that the versions of alsa/aRts you have match what I had listed (I'lllist again for convenience):libarts2-devel-2.1.2-2mdkarts-2.1.2-2mdklibarts2-2.1.2-2mdkalsa-lib-devel-0.5.10-2mdkalsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdkalsa-lib-0.5.10-2mdkAlso - what kernel are you running?  I'm running Stew's 2.4.4-6.2mdkkernel (if you don't have this one, grab it fromftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/Let me know what's going on! ;)  We'll get this working yet!  Btw - myICQ# is 710189, if I'm on, feel free to message me and we can go at thisinteractively.-BriceDippy Black wrote:
I think I am making progress. Stew was trying to help me on ICQ earliertoday. I was getting a bunch of unresolved symbols in the alsa modulesduring boot. Installing the libarts and arts rpms took care of all ofthat. I was trying to look at the alsa web site for help. I still do nothave sound. I saw where the default is mute. I typed amixer as theydescribe but I get: [root@localhost dippy]# amixeramixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directoryWhen I check my modules with lsmod I get:[root@localhost dippy]# lsmodModule  Size  Used byppp_deflate44000   0  (autoclean)bsd_comp4768   0  (autoclean)ppp_async   8464   1  (autoclean)ppp_generic23072   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflat!
e bsd_com_async] macserial  38256   2  (autoclean)snd-pcm-oss45392   0  (autoclean) (unused)snd-pcm59488   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]snd-timer  11888   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]snd-mixer-oss  11056   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]snd29776   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timersnd-mixer-oss]soundcore   4880   0  [snd]supermount 39072   4  (autoclean)Here is my /etc/modules.conf:pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc

Re: Sound Issues

[Dippy Black]

I have been gone for awhile again. Brice you were trying to help me with the 
sound when I had to take off. I hope you have some more ideas. 

I ended up reinstalling mandrake as I botched trying to upgrade X and 
couldn't get it to run again so I am starting from scratch. I installed the 
arts packages and the alsa packages.

Here is my lsmod:

Module  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate44000   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp4768   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   8464   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic23072   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]
macserial  38256   2  (autoclean)
snd-pcm-oss45392   0  (autoclean) (unused)
snd-pcm59488   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-timer  11888   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-mixer-oss  11056   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd29776   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer 
snd-mixer-oss]
soundcore   4880   0  [snd]
supermount 39072   4  (autoclean)

Here is my modules.conf:
pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
alias eth0 gmac
alias usb-interface0 usb-ohci
alias serial macserial
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
# ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs
# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

Hope you can help me out with this. I type amixer and get:
amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory   

Here is another error message I generate:
[root@localhost dippy]# service alsa restart
Doing alsactl to store mixer settings...   [  OK  ]
Shutting down ALSA sound driver (version 0.5.11):  [  OK  ]
Starting ALSA version 0.5.11:insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.4-6.2mdk/alsa/snd.o: No 
such file or directory
insmod: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.4-6.2mdk/alsa/snd.o failed
 awacs 0.  [  OK  ]
Doing alsactl to restore mixer settings... [  OK  ]


I tried the dmasound package that Stew put up. I got static after I ran that 
so I reverted back.



On Friday 13 July 2001 09:51, you wrote:
> Hi Dippy,
>
> The relevant portion of my lsmod listing is:
>
> snd-seq-oss
> snd-seq-midi-event
> snd-seq
> snd-seq-device
> snd-pcm-oss
> snd-pcm-plugin
> snd-mixer-oss
> snd-card-awacs
> snd-mixer
> snd-pcm
> snd-timer
> snd
> soundcore
>
>  From here - you can see that you're missing alot of the alsa modules -
> snd-card-awacs, snd-mixer (this is why you can't use amixer),
> snd-pcm-plugin, snd-seq, snd-seq-device, snd-seq-midi-event,
> snd-seq-oss.  I'm not entirely sure why these modules aren't loading for
> you ... you might want to check and see that (a) you have them and (b)
> that the versions of alsa/aRts you have match what I had listed (I'll
> list again for convenience):
>
> libarts2-devel-2.1.2-2mdk
> arts-2.1.2-2mdk
> libarts2-2.1.2-2mdk
> alsa-lib-devel-0.5.10-2mdk
> alsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdk
> alsa-lib-0.5.10-2mdk
>
> Also - what kernel are you running?  I'm running Stew's 2.4.4-6.2mdk
> kernel (if you don't have this one, grab it from
> ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/
>
> Let me know what's going on! ;)  We'll get this working yet!  Btw - my
> ICQ# is 710189, if I'm on, feel free to message me and we can go at this
> interactively.
>
> -Brice
>
> Dippy Black wrote:
> >I think I am making progress. Stew was trying to help me on ICQ earlier
> >today. I was getting a bunch of unresolved symbols in the alsa modules
> > during boot. Installing the libarts and arts rpms took care of all of
> > that. I was trying to look at the alsa web site for help. I still do not
> > have sound. I saw where the default is mute. I typed amixer as they
> > describe but I get: [root@localhost dippy]# amixer
> >amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory
> >
> >When I check my modules with lsmod I get:
> >[root@localhost dippy]# lsmod
> >Module  Size  Used by
> >ppp_deflate44000   0  (autoclean)
> >bsd_comp4768   0  (autoclean)
> >ppp_async   8464   1  (autoclean)
> >ppp_generic23072   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp
> > ppp_async] macserial  38256   2  (autoclean)
> >snd-pcm-oss45392   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> >snd-pcm59488   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
> >snd-timer  11888   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
> >snd-mixer-oss  11056   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
> >snd29776   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer
> >snd-mixer-oss]
> >soundcore   4880   0  [snd]
> >supermount 39072   4  (autoclean)
> >
> >Here is my /etc/modules.conf:
> >
> >pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-

Re: Sound Issues

[Brice D Ruth]

Hi Dippy,

The relevant portion of my lsmod listing is:

snd-seq-oss
snd-seq-midi-event
snd-seq
snd-seq-device
snd-pcm-oss
snd-pcm-plugin
snd-mixer-oss
snd-card-awacs
snd-mixer
snd-pcm
snd-timer
snd
soundcore

>From here - you can see that you're missing alot of the alsa modules - snd-card-awacs,
snd-mixer (this is why you can't use amixer), snd-pcm-plugin, snd-seq, snd-seq-device,
snd-seq-midi-event, snd-seq-oss.  I'm not entirely sure why these modules
aren't loading for you ... you might want to check and see that (a) you have
them and (b) that the versions of alsa/aRts you have match what I had listed
(I'll list again for convenience):
libarts2-devel-2.1.2-2mdkarts-2.1.2-2mdklibarts2-2.1.2-2mdkalsa-lib-devel-0.5.10-2mdkalsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdkalsa-lib-0.5.10-2mdk
Also - what kernel are you running?  I'm running Stew's 2.4.4-6.2mdk kernel
(if you don't have this one, grab it from ftp://speakeasy.rpmfind.net/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/

Let me know what's going on! ;)  We'll get this working yet!  Btw - my ICQ#
is 710189, if I'm on, feel free to message me and we can go at this interactively.

-Brice



Dippy Black wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  I think I am making progress. Stew was trying to help me on ICQ earlier today. I was getting a bunch of unresolved symbols in the alsa modules during boot. Installing the libarts and arts rpms took care of all of that. I was trying to look at the alsa web site for help. I still do not have sound. I saw where the default is mute. I typed amixer as they describe but I get:[root@localhost dippy]# amixeramixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directoryWhen I check my modules with lsmod I get:[root@localhost dippy]# lsmodModule  Size  Used byppp_deflate44000   0  (autoclean)bsd_comp4768   0  (autoclean)ppp_async   8464   1  (autoclean)ppp_generic23072   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]
macserial  38256   2  (autoclean)snd-pcm-oss45392   0  (autoclean) (unused)snd-pcm59488   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]snd-timer  11888   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]snd-mixer-oss  11056   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]snd29776   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-mixer-oss]soundcore   4880   0  [snd]supermount 39072   4  (autoclean)Here is my /etc/modules.conf:pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start# alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_awacsalias eth0 gmacalias usb-interface0 usb-ohcialias serial macserial# ALSA portionalias char-major-116 snd# OSS/Free portionalias char-major-14 soundcore# ALSA portionalias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs# OSS/Free portionalias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0# OSS/Free portion - card #1alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-ossal
ias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-ossalias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-ossI don't know if any of this helps. I am just trying to give any info that would be helpful. Let me know what you think.On Thursday 12 July 2001 21:01, you wrote:
  
Hi Dippy,No - I don't believe I did.  I don't think I had any sound whatsoever. As far as alsa & aRts goes, the following RPMs are installed here:libarts2-devel-2.1.2-2mdkarts-2.1.2-2mdklibarts2-2.1.2-2mdkalsa-lib-devel-0.5.10-2mdkalsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdkalsa-lib-0.5.10-2mdkProbably anything w/ -devel you won't need (then again, maybe you willif you need to recompile any sound apps ;).  And as for XMMS - theversion on the CD is BAD ... get Stew's recompile from the mirrors(should be in Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/ - just look for aversion more recent than yours.See if that gets you going.  If not - write back.  Seeing as that I havethe exact same machine you do (assuming your's is a 400MHz iMac DV) -I'm sure we can get this figured out ;)-BriceDippy Black wrote:

  I will try adding that. I assume I need to download the alsa drivers firstand install them. Just curious. did you have the static problems at thebeginning in kde and absence of any other sounds.On Thursday 12 July 2001 16:47, you wrote:
  
Hi Dippy,I also have an iMac DV and I've gotten sound to work fine.  I'll writemore in a bit (I'm on my way out to dinner) - but basically, I'm usingthe aRts and alsa systems.  I have the following lines in my/etc/modules.conf:# ALSA portionalias char-major-116 snd# OSS/Free portionalias char-major-14 soundcore# ALSA portionalias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs# OSS/Free portionalias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0# OSS/Free portion - card #1alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-ossalias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-ossalias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-ossGet that in there and see if that gets you going.  If not - wait for mynext installment ;)-BriceDippy Black wrote:

  I thought since it had been awhile since it was first brought up, Iwould bring it up again. I have no sound at all on my Imac 

Re: Sound Issues

[Dippy Black]

I think I am making progress. Stew was trying to help me on ICQ earlier 
today. I was getting a bunch of unresolved symbols in the alsa modules during 
boot. Installing the libarts and arts rpms took care of all of that. I was 
trying to look at the alsa web site for help. I still do not have sound. I 
saw where the default is mute. I typed amixer as they describe but I get:
[root@localhost dippy]# amixer
amixer: Mixer attach hw:0 error: No such file or directory

When I check my modules with lsmod I get:
[root@localhost dippy]# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate44000   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp4768   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   8464   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic23072   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async]
macserial  38256   2  (autoclean)
snd-pcm-oss45392   0  (autoclean) (unused)
snd-pcm59488   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-timer  11888   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-mixer-oss  11056   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd29776   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer 
snd-mixer-oss]
soundcore   4880   0  [snd]
supermount 39072   4  (autoclean)

Here is my /etc/modules.conf:

pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
# alias sound-slot-0 dmasound_awacs
alias eth0 gmac
alias usb-interface0 usb-ohci
alias serial macserial
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
# ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs
# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

I don't know if any of this helps. I am just trying to give any info that 
would be helpful. Let me know what you think.



On Thursday 12 July 2001 21:01, you wrote:
> Hi Dippy,
>
> No - I don't believe I did.  I don't think I had any sound whatsoever.
>  As far as alsa & aRts goes, the following RPMs are installed here:
>
>
> libarts2-devel-2.1.2-2mdk
> arts-2.1.2-2mdk
> libarts2-2.1.2-2mdk
> alsa-lib-devel-0.5.10-2mdk
> alsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdk
> alsa-lib-0.5.10-2mdk
>
> Probably anything w/ -devel you won't need (then again, maybe you will
> if you need to recompile any sound apps ;).  And as for XMMS - the
> version on the CD is BAD ... get Stew's recompile from the mirrors
> (should be in Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/ - just look for a
> version more recent than yours.
>
> See if that gets you going.  If not - write back.  Seeing as that I have
> the exact same machine you do (assuming your's is a 400MHz iMac DV) -
> I'm sure we can get this figured out ;)
>
> -Brice
>
> Dippy Black wrote:
> >I will try adding that. I assume I need to download the alsa drivers first
> >and install them. Just curious. did you have the static problems at the
> >beginning in kde and absence of any other sounds.
> >
> >On Thursday 12 July 2001 16:47, you wrote:
> >>Hi Dippy,
> >>
> >>I also have an iMac DV and I've gotten sound to work fine.  I'll write
> >>more in a bit (I'm on my way out to dinner) - but basically, I'm using
> >>the aRts and alsa systems.  I have the following lines in my
> >>/etc/modules.conf:
> >>
> >># ALSA portion
> >>alias char-major-116 snd
> >># OSS/Free portion
> >>alias char-major-14 soundcore
> >># ALSA portion
> >>alias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs
> >># OSS/Free portion
> >>alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> >># OSS/Free portion - card #1
> >>alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> >>alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> >>alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> >>alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> >>
> >>Get that in there and see if that gets you going.  If not - wait for my
> >>next installment ;)
> >>
> >>-Brice
> >>
> >>Dippy Black wrote:
> >>>I thought since it had been awhile since it was first brought up, I
> >>> would bring it up again. I have no sound at all on my Imac DV. If
> >>> starting up with the KDE desktop I get a really annoying blast of
> >>> static. If I use gnome there is nothing. I get no system sounds at all.


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Re: Sound Issues

[Brice D Ruth]

Hi Dippy,

No - I don't believe I did.  I don't think I had any sound whatsoever.  As
far as alsa & aRts goes, the following RPMs are installed here:


libarts2-devel-2.1.2-2mdk
arts-2.1.2-2mdk
libarts2-2.1.2-2mdk
alsa-lib-devel-0.5.10-2mdk
alsa-utils-0.5.10-2mdk
alsa-lib-0.5.10-2mdk

Probably anything w/ -devel you won't need (then again, maybe you will if
you need to recompile any sound apps ;).  And as for XMMS - the version on
the CD is BAD ... get Stew's recompile from the mirrors (should be in Mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mandrake/RPMS/
- just look for a version more recent than yours.

See if that gets you going.  If not - write back.  Seeing as that I have
the exact same machine you do (assuming your's is a 400MHz iMac DV) - I'm
sure we can get this figured out ;)

-Brice

Dippy Black wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">
  I will try adding that. I assume I need to download the alsa drivers first and install them. Just curious. did you have the static problems at the beginning in kde and absence of any other sounds.On Thursday 12 July 2001 16:47, you wrote:
  
Hi Dippy,I also have an iMac DV and I've gotten sound to work fine.  I'll writemore in a bit (I'm on my way out to dinner) - but basically, I'm usingthe aRts and alsa systems.  I have the following lines in my/etc/modules.conf:# ALSA portionalias char-major-116 snd# OSS/Free portionalias char-major-14 soundcore# ALSA portionalias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs# OSS/Free portionalias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0# OSS/Free portion - card #1alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-ossalias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-ossalias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-ossalias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-ossGet that in there and see if that gets you going.  If not - wait for mynext installment ;)-BriceDippy Black wrote:

  I thought since it had been awhile since it was first brought up, I wouldbring it up again. I have no sound at all on my Imac DV. If starting upwith the KDE desktop I get a really annoying blast of static. If I usegnome there is nothing. I get no system sounds at all.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

Re: Sound Issues

[Dippy Black]

I will try adding that. I assume I need to download the alsa drivers first 
and install them. Just curious. did you have the static problems at the 
beginning in kde and absence of any other sounds.

On Thursday 12 July 2001 16:47, you wrote:
> Hi Dippy,
>
> I also have an iMac DV and I've gotten sound to work fine.  I'll write
> more in a bit (I'm on my way out to dinner) - but basically, I'm using
> the aRts and alsa systems.  I have the following lines in my
> /etc/modules.conf:
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
> # ALSA portion
> alias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> Get that in there and see if that gets you going.  If not - wait for my
> next installment ;)
>
> -Brice
>
> Dippy Black wrote:
> >I thought since it had been awhile since it was first brought up, I would
> >bring it up again. I have no sound at all on my Imac DV. If starting up
> > with the KDE desktop I get a really annoying blast of static. If I use
> > gnome there is nothing. I get no system sounds at all.

Re: Sound Issues

[Dippy Black]

On Thursday 12 July 2001 16:30, you wrote:
> Dippy,
>
> Have you tried experimenting with the alsa sound drivers that are on my
> web page?  I can't build those into the distro due to conflicts with the
> other architectures, but I'm going to try maintaining them personally, as
> the kernels progress.  Some of the newer machines have sound hardware that
> is not compatible with dmasound or dmasound_awacs, so the alsa drivers are
> an alternative.  I know some other PPC distro's are now using
> dmasound_pmac, but I haven't had an opportunity to look at how I might
> patch this into the Mandrake kernel.
>
> Stew Benedict
I didn't know if I should even mess with the alsa stuff if I couldn't get 
system bells to work.  I couldn't get the xmms stuff to work. I will give it 
a whirl.

Re: Sound Issues

[Brice D Ruth]

Hi Dippy,

I also have an iMac DV and I've gotten sound to work fine.  I'll write 
more in a bit (I'm on my way out to dinner) - but basically, I'm using 
the aRts and alsa systems.  I have the following lines in my 
/etc/modules.conf:

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
# ALSA portion
alias snd-card-0 snd-card-awacs
# OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

Get that in there and see if that gets you going.  If not - wait for my 
next installment ;)

-Brice

Dippy Black wrote:

>I thought since it had been awhile since it was first brought up, I would 
>bring it up again. I have no sound at all on my Imac DV. If starting up with 
>the KDE desktop I get a really annoying blast of static. If I use gnome there 
>is nothing. I get no system sounds at all. 
>

Re: Sound Issues

[Stew Benedict]

Dippy,

Have you tried experimenting with the alsa sound drivers that are on my
web page?  I can't build those into the distro due to conflicts with the
other architectures, but I'm going to try maintaining them personally, as
the kernels progress.  Some of the newer machines have sound hardware that
is not compatible with dmasound or dmasound_awacs, so the alsa drivers are
an alternative.  I know some other PPC distro's are now using
dmasound_pmac, but I haven't had an opportunity to look at how I might
patch this into the Mandrake kernel.

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoftOH/TN, USA  http://perso.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/


On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Dippy Black wrote:

> I thought since it had been awhile since it was first brought up, I would 
> bring it up again. I have no sound at all on my Imac DV. If starting up with 
> the KDE desktop I get a really annoying blast of static. If I use gnome there 
> is nothing. I get no system sounds at all. 
>