[CTRL] "I have no comment to make on these matters," ...[more corruption]

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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It is our right,
and it is our duty,
to remain free.
 --- Alan Keyes

Published in Washington, D.C. 5am -- August 5, 1999
www.washtimes.com

Clinton appointees meet privately



By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


The eight federal judges appointed by President Clinton to the U.S. District
Court in Washington meet privately every month in closed-door sessions that
other jurists believe are improper and call into question the court's
impartiality.
  "I cannot imagine any legitimate reason for them to meet together once
a month, even socially," said one veteran courthouse official familiar with
the sessions.
  "It's not only in bad taste, it certainly has the appearance of
impropriety. It's hard to imagine any rationale for these meetings."
  Another court official said they "reek with impropriety."
  Concern among courthouse officials about the meetings, which are
described in e-mail addressed monthly to each of the eight judges, comes at
a time that Chief U.S. District Judge Norma Holloway Johnson is being
publicly criticized for selectively assigning criminal cases against friends
and associates of Mr. Clinton's to judges the president has appointed.
  None of the eight Clinton-appointed judges, all of whom were named to
the bench between 1994 to 1998, would comment on the meetings or their
content.
  "I have no comment to make on these matters," said U.S. District Judge
Henry H. Kennedy Jr., the only one of the eight who personally answered a
telephone call. A spokeswoman for Judge Richard W. Roberts returned a call
but said only that the judge "declined comment."
  Four judges appointed by other presidents, both Republican and
Democrat, said the meetings have been taking place for some time, although
specific topics are not known. They question the propriety of the sessions
and lament what they described as the "loss of collegiality" when the judges
fail to come together as a group -- which the others do often.
  "The Clinton appointees have confirmed that they meet together, and we
know they do, but where they go and what they discuss I just don't know,"
said one judge. "But a very important part of what we do here is our
collegiality. We all come with political viewpoints but we try to leave
politics behind. Unfortunately, the Clinton appointees have gone off on
their own."
  The nature of the isolation, another judge said, was punctuated by an
e-mail message sent to all of the judges inviting them to a birthday party
for U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina, a 1994 Clinton appointee. The
message asked the judges to guess Judge Urbina's age for a prize but
excluded members of the "Magnificent Seven" -- a name the first seven
Clinton appointees had used to describe their group before Judge Roberts'
1998 appointment.
  There are 23 judges at the federal courthouse, including the eight
named by Mr. Clinton. Five were appointed by President Carter and five by
President Reagan. Four were named by President Johnson and one was picked by
President Nixon. None of the other judges hold separate meetings, courthouse
sources said.
  Questions of impropriety at the courthouse have drawn the attention of
the Senate Judiciary Committee, whose chairman, Sen. Orrin G. Hatch, Utah
Republican, is considering whether to begin an investigation or call for
hearings to resolve the issue.
  During a confirmation hearing yesterday for two Justice Department
officials, Mr. Hatch described as "deeply troubling" reports that Judge
Johnson had bypassed the court's random case assignment procedures "by
taking the unusual step of hand-picking" judges appointed by Mr. Clinton to
hear cases involving Webster L. Hubbell and Charles Yah Lin Trie.
  "Even if deviations from the district court's random case assignment
procedures are technically permitted by local rule, I share the concern that
has been expressed by other judges on the court that these assignments will
damage the public's confidence that these cases were impartially
adjudicated," he said.
  Committee member Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, echoed Mr.
Hatch's concerns, adding that as a former prosecutor he was "stunned" by the
Johnson assignments.
  He said it "might be necessary" for the committee to investigate the
matter to restore the public's confidence.
  On Tuesday, Judge Johnson defended her decision not to follow the
court's traditional random-assignment process when she assigned the Hubbell
and Trie cases to U.S. District Judges Paul L. Friedman and James
Robertson --both Clinton appointees.
  She said the cases were assigned to "highly capable federal judges"
and that "politics was not and is never a factor in our case assignments."
  She said the chief judge has the right to assign "protracted an

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment

1999-08-04 Thread DIG Anonymous

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Does anyone know which ten states other than Illinois allow such lunacy?

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[CTRL] Tibetia: 08-05-99

1999-08-04 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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> Virtual Tibet
> Is the popular image of this troubled land true to reality?
>
> By Jeremiah Creedon, Utne Reader
>
> Tibetan Buddhism's high profile in the West today is said to be
> largely the work of the current Dalai Lama. Driven from Tibet by
> its Chinese occupiers in 1959, he has spent much of his life
> pleading the case for a free Tibet throughout the world. As
> others have noted, he first sought support in the halls of power,
> where few would listen. Only in the past decade or so has he
> begun to rely on a posse of famous friends and his own
> bespectacled presence to take the Tibetan cause directly to the
> masses.
>
> This popular appeal has been more successful, or so it seems. A
> detailed picture of Tibet now exists in the Western mind, updated
> most recently by two major films about the Dalai Lama's boyhood:
> the Brad Pitt vehicle, Seven Years in Tibet, and Martin
> Scorsese's Kundun. Both have been praised for capturing the look
> and feel of Tibet, though Seven Years was shot in Argentina and
> Kundun in Morocco. Others have tried to convey a sense of Tibet's
> unique form of Buddhism, though here again some say the
> authenticity may be celluloid thin.
>
> These efforts form what amounts to a virtual Tibet, a borderless
> country manipulated not by China but by the TV viewer's remote
> control. There's a general belief that the virtual Tibet somehow
> helps the actual Tibet, but does reality bear this out? That
> question is never far from the surface in two new books, each
> written by a leading American scholar of Buddhism. Both authors
> believe that Tibetan independence is a noble and not hopeless
> cause, but they differ over how well it's being served by current
> appeals to Western sympathy. The books also raise intriguing
> questions about the modern recovery of ancient wisdom and whether
> such a thing is even possible, given the warping lens of the
> present through which the past is inevitably viewed.
>
> In Prisoners of Shangri-la: Tibetan Buddhism and the West
> (University of Chicago Press, $25), Donald S. Lopez Jr. argues
> that the Western vision of Tibet has always been highly
> unrealistic. In a series of essays, he examines the various roles
> that Tibet and its Buddhist traditions have played in the Western
> imagination for centuries. Early missionaries and travelers
> vilified the Tibetans as barbaric heathens, "Lamaists" whose
> colorful but empty faith amounted to a cargo-cult version of
> Roman Catholicism. Today, several incarnations later, the
> Tibetans are viewed as "happy, peaceful people devoted to the
> practice of Buddhism, whose remote and ecologically enlightened
> land, ruled by a god-king, was invaded by the forces of evil."
>
> Lopez, a professor of Buddhist and Tibetan studies at the
> University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, argues that all such visions
> stem from a colonial mind-set that denies the Tibetan people the
> right to their own lives. "During the past three decades
> fantasies of Tibet garnered much support" for the country, he
> writes. "But I have become convinced that the continued
> idealization of Tibet -- its history and its religion -- may
> ultimately harm the cause of Tibetan independence."
>
> Lopez is especially blunt about what he calls "Buddhist
> modernism," an atheistic "religion of reason" compatible with
> science and devoted to social reform -- in other words, a
> Buddhism abridged for the Western mind. "This version of Buddhism
> was unknown in Tibet," Lopez writes. "However, since the diaspora
> in 1959, the leading proponent of Buddhist modernism has been a
> Tibetan, the Dalai Lama." Another proponent, according to Lopez,
> is Robert A.F. Thurman, the popular Je Tsong Khapa Professor of
> Indo-Tibetan Buddhist Studies at Columbia University, father of
> the actress Uma, and former Buddhist monk and student of the
> Dalai Lama, who remains a close friend. Thurman's Inner
> Revolution: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Real Happiness
> (Riverhead, $24.95), would probably qualify as an example of the
> Buddhist revisionism that Lopez criticizes. In his history of
> Buddhism, Thurman reiterates a view of Tibet he has already done
> much to shape in earlier works, portraying Tibetans as a formerly
> warlike people who embraced enlightenment when Buddhism arrived
> from India many centuries ago. He sees Buddhism today as a tool
> for social change -- and the inspiration for a "cool heroism"
> that will revolutionize the West.
>
> The book is also a spiritual memoir that weaves the author's
> personal quest for enlightenment into his wider historical
> narrative. Taken on its own terms, it ultimately proves hard not
> to enjoy. To compare the two books is to acknowledge the
> existence of different, often competing kinds of history, if not
> reality. As Lopez so brilliantly argues, the virtual Tibet is a
> distortion, or even an illusion, like the light of an exploding
> star that glimmers most brigh

[CTRL] Kosovar gangs pick up where the Serbs left off.

1999-08-04 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Chaos in Kosovo
  Kosovar gangs pick up where the Serbs
left off.

  - - - - - - - - - - - -
  By Laura Rozen

  August 3, 1999 | PRISTINA, Yugoslavia
-- With 37,000 NATO-led peacekeeping
  troops patrolling it, Kosovo may not
be the first place one thinks of as a
  smugglers' paradise.

  But it is.

  Two different worlds converge here in
Kosovo, utterly unrelated to each
  other. Heroin and cocaine come cheap
at parties. Mercedes and BMWs,
  sparkling new and without license
plates, cruise through the capital at
  dusk, packed with young men talking on
cell phones. When they stop in
  front of key office buildings, a
couple of men get out, crossing their arms
  as if armed and not to be messed with,
while another goes inside to
  conduct business. The rumbling
oversized tank of a British KFOR patrol
  turns the corner at an intersection
less than 10 feet away.

  Kosovo sits between two European
countries overrun with organized
  crime. Albania, the poorest country in
Europe, sits along a well-trod drug
  and arms trading route between Asia
and Europe. The northern part of
  Albania, which borders Kosovo, is
almost entirely in the hands of armed
  gangs.

  To Kosovo's northeast, Serbia, after a
decade of international economic
  sanctions and isolation, is also rife
with corruption, arms smuggling and
  state-sanctioned theft of public funds
to private bank accounts (some 300
  cronies of Yugoslav president Slobodan
Milosevic have recently had their
  Swiss bank accounts frozen and been
banned from travel to the European
  Union and the United States).

  Organized crime loves a vacuum.
Interpol now estimates that 40 percent of
  the heroin supply in Western Europe
travels through Kosovo.

  In addition, Kosovo has a past which
makes it an ideal breeding ground
  for organized crime. For the past 10
years, since Milosevic revoked the
  province's autonomy, most Kosovo
Albanians have been pushed out of
  the state sector, and forced to look
for work in private ventures and
  abroad. Many Kosovo Albanian men went
abroad to work in Germany,
  Switzerland, Scandinavia and the
United States -- some in construction
  and other above-board professions,
others in the underworld of drug
  trafficking -- to earn money to send
back to their extended families. An
  extensive network of travel agencies
helped traffic money from Europe
  and the United States back to
relatives in Kosovo.

  But certain conditions of the post-war
period make Kosovo even more
  ideal as a base for organized crime.
There is an almost complete lack of
  civil authority here, despite the
presence of KFOR soldiers. Have your
  apartment broken into, car stolen,
neighbor murdered, and there is no one
  to call. KFOR soldiers dutifully come
to make a report if someone's been
  killed. But you can call the police
emergency number in Kosovo all you
  want, and no one comes, because for
the moment there are no functioning
  police. To date, some 600 U.N.
international police have arrived, but the
  international police commissioner does
not plan to deploy any of them
  until he has most of his 3,000 men.

  In the meantime, there are virtually
open borders. The fact that Serbian
  police destroyed many Kosovo
Albanians' identity papers and license
  plates as they were deporting them
means that KFOR allows almost
   

[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #3

1999-08-04 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990804c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No sphinxes were sexually abused during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiBriefs:

# The Bacteria That Changed The Earth. (BBC) Australian scientists have pin-
  pointed the time an Earth-changing form of life appeared - the bacteria
  which gave us the oxygen we breathe. A team from the Australian Geological
  Survey have identified chemical fossils of cyanobacteria in ancient rocks.
  It demonstrates that 2.5 billion years ago they were already changing the
  face of our planet. http://www.sightings.com/earthchanges/thebac.htm

# The Mother of All Plants. (BBC) Scientists have discovered that every
  plant species alive on land today shares a single common ancestor, at
  least 450 million years old, and that "plants" and animals are related
  in totally unexpected ways. The researchers think the impact of their
  findings could parallel the discovery centuries ago that the Sun is
  merely one star in the whole universe. They say their findings could
  shatter preconceptions about life on Earth by showing that all the
  familiar biodiversity (including human life) represents only one small
  twig on the tree of life. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/mother.htm

# World's Bioversity Rivaling Past Extinction Levels. ST. LOUIS, MO - A
  compilation of the latest data on extinction rates of plant and animal
  life around the world reports that humanity's impact on the earth has
  increased extinction rates to levels rivaling the five mass extinctions of
  past geologic history. A world leader in plant conservation predicts that
  between one-third and two-thirds of all plant and animal species, most in
  the tropics, will be lost during the second half of the next century.
  "Human efforts have been notable for their lack of attention to the living
  world that supports us all": http://www.sightings.com/politics4/bioex.htm

# Nearly Half Of Earth's Land Transformed By Humans - 50 'Dead Zones' Found
  In Oceans. ST. LOUIS, MO - Humans have gravely altered the chemistry, bio-
  logy and physical structure of the Earth's land and water, according to
  the latest findings on the "human footprint on Earth." The data showed
  that nearly half of the land surface of Earth has been changed, and some
  50 'dead zones' (areas with little or no oxygen) have developed in the
  Earth's coastal waters. http://www.sightings.com/earthchanges/deadzns.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

Astrophysics: Cosmic Expansion: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr085.htm
Astrophysics: Evolution of Galaxies: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr039.htm
Astrophysics: Extrasolar Planets: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr021.htm
Astrophysics: Gamma Ray Bursts: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr012.htm
Astrophysics: Origin of the Solar System: http://scienceweek.com/swfr063.htm
Astrophysics: Quasars: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr056.htm

Chaos Theory: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr036.htm
Cloning & Genetic Engineering: Policy: http://scienceweek.com/swfr016.htm
Cosmology: Anti-Gravity: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr090.htm
Cosmology: Dark Matter: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr010.htm
Cosmology: Models and Extrapolations: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr020.htm

Evolution: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr032.htm
Evolution: Meteor Hits & Mass Extinction: http://scienceweek.com/swfr046.htm
Evolution: The Dinosaur-Bird Linkage: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr019.htm
Gene Patents: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr084.htm
Genes and Behavior: Social Insects: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr081.htm
Genetic Engineering: Transgenic Animals: http://scienceweek.com/swfr080.htm

Neurobiology: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr026.htm
Neurobiology: Brain Plasticity & Memory: http://scienceweek.com/swfr026.htm
Neurobiology: Ion Channels: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr066.htm
Neurobio: Melatonin & Circadian Rhythms: http://scienceweek.com/swfr057.htm
Neurobiology: Neurotransmitter Release: http://scienceweek.com/swfr051.htm
Neurobio: Substrates of Consciousness: http://scienceweek.com/swfr077.htm

Nicotine and the Tobacco Industry: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr047.htm
Origin of Life (1): http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr009.htm
Origin of Life (2): http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr040.htm
Particle Physics: Exchange on Relevance: http://scienceweek.com/swfr049.htm
Particle Physics: Gluons and Glueballs: http://scienceweek.com/swfr053.htm

Quantum Dots and Quantum Computing: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr042.htm
Quantum Mechanics: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr015.htm
Quantum Mechanics: Quantum Non-Demolition: www.scienceweek.com/swfr093.htm
Quantum Technology: Magnetoelectronics: http://scienceweek.com/swfr079.htm
Solar System: Water on Jovian Moons: http://www.scienceweek.com/swfr048.htm
Theoretical 

[CTRL] *New*MUST VISIT:"Dead Alert"

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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WARNING THE ILLUMINATI IS PREPARING FOR GLOBAL DOMINATION
http://www.angelfire.com/wv/ILLUMINATI1/index.html

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[CTRL] Beijing Warns of 'Calamity'4 Taiwan[Dongfeng 31 range 5,000miles]

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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Beijing Warns of a 'Calamity' for Taiwan
U.S. Mission Failed To Ease Tensions, Diplomats Say
By John Pomfret
Washington Post Foreign Service
Wednesday, August 4, 1999; Page A17

BEIJING, Aug. 3—The Chinese government launched another broadside against
Taiwan today, warning that the self-governing island faces "calamity"
because of President Lee Teng-hui's pronouncements on Taiwan's political
status.

Meanwhile, a day after China announced that it had tested a new long-range
missile, Taiwan's stock market plunged sharply but closed with only a
fractional loss after the government intervened by buying $155 million worth
of equities.

The continued tension between the governments in Beijing and Taipei is a
pointed illustration, Western diplomats said, that a U.S. diplomatic mission
to both cities two weeks ago failed to mollify the rivals. U.S. officials
tried to persuade Lee to modify recent remarks that have angered Beijing,
while they cautioned Beijing not to use force to try to impose its will on
Taiwan.

Lee, however, has declined to back down, reiterating his inflammatory
declaration of July 9 in which he said his government wants to deal with the
mainland on a "special state-to-state" basis, repudiating Beijing's view of
Taiwan as a wayward Chinese province. Lee's assertion marked a major break
with the "one China" framework that has kept peace between the two sides for
decades -- a formula that holds that both are parts of the same country and
that peaceful reunification is inevitable.

China has rejected an explanation of Lee's remarks offered by the Taiwanese
leader's top China negotiator, Koo Chen-fu, jeopardizing talks planned
between Taiwan and Beijing later this year. China has seized a Taiwanese
cargo ship, and warplanes from both sides have been flying past the halfway
point in the Strait of Taiwan. Meanwhile, the United States has added to the
tension with its announcement Monday that it will sell $550 million worth of
weapons to Taiwan, including E-2T early-warning aircraft and parts and
equipment for warplanes.

In an editorial that will appear Wednesday, the official newspaper of
China's ruling Communist Party warned the people of Taiwan not to listen to
their president, whom the article refers to as a "splittist." It said Lee's
"state-to-state" initiative would "damage the island province's economy and
trade and eventually bring calamities to the people."

On Monday, Beijing announced it had tested a long-range ballistic missile
that military analysts believe is the Dongfeng 31, a mobile-launched,
three-stage vehicle with a range of 5,000 miles. While military analysts
said the missile was developed to threaten Japanese and U.S. military
positions throughout Asia, the news triggered the stock sell-off in Taiwan.


© Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-08/04/107l-080499-idx.html



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[CTRL] U.S. Army headquarters leaves Panama

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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U.S. Army headquarters leaves Panama

Several hundred soldiers will remain until canal is handed over at year's
end

07/31/99

Associated Press

FORT CLAYTON, Panama - The United States' long goodbye to Panama neared an
end Friday with the formal departure of the regional U.S. Army headquarters,
leaving only a few hundred soldiers until the Panama Canal is handed over at
year's end.


"Your 88-year mission here is done," Marine Gen. Charles E. Wilhelm, the
head of the U.S. Southern Command, said at a closing ceremony at Fort
Clayton's Soldier's Field parade ground. "You can report with pride -
Mission accomplished."

The Southern Command, the administrative head for all branches of the U.S.
military in the region, moved out of Panama in 1997. But Friday's ceremony
marked the exit of the regional headquarters of the U.S. Army, which had the
largest presence in Panama. That headquarters moves to Fort Buchanan in
Puerto Rico.

As Panamanian President Ernesto Perez Balladares looked on and a bagpiper
played "Auld Lang Syne," a color guard dressed in tan, 1910-style U.S.
uniforms and bearing Springfield rifles turned over flags to another color
guard dressed in modern camouflage uniforms and carrying M-16 rifles. The
modern guard then marched out the gates of Fort Clayton, past U.S. and
Panamanian flags.

Maj. Gen. Philip R. Kensinger Jr., the commander of U.S. Army South, said
the troops were saying goodbye to Panama - "and in doing so, holding our
heads high with the knowledge that Panama and the region have been better
for our presence."

Thick gray clouds gathered and rain began to fall soon after the ceremony
ended, a reminder of the tropical downpours that helped the Army train
millions of soldiers in tropical jungle warfare over the years.

On Dec. 31, the United States turns the canal over to Panama, ending a
relationship between the two countries that began with Panama's birth as a
nation in 1903. The first U.S. soldiers permanently assigned came in 1911 to
guard construction efforts of the Panama Canal, which was opened in 1914.

Today fewer than 1,000 U.S. military personnel remain in Panama, largely
based at Corozal, just south of Clayton, near the Pacific entrance of the
canal. They are steadily departing week by week.

Until the mid-1990s, more than 10,000 U.S. troops were based in Panama. At
the height of the U.S. presence, during World War II, about 65,000 U.S.
troops were based in Panama.

Since the 1977 treaty signed by President Jimmy Carter and Panamanian leader
Omar Torrijos, the United States has gradually been turning over its 453,000
acres of holdings in the Canal Zone and military bases.

U.S. negotiations to maintain an anti-drug base in Panama fell through, but
Mr. Perez Balladares told reporters after the ceremony that he expected the
United States and Panama to continue cooperating against drug traffickers.

"We have many objectives in common to complete," he said. "Especially those
that unite us, like the fight against drug trafficking and crime."

http://www.dallasnews.com/world/0731int10panama.htm


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[CTRL] Howard: Adios Fourth Amendment

1999-08-04 Thread Edward Britton

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Howard:

This has been floating around the net for weeks now and, from what I've
been able to gather, it's real.

Edward   ><+>
>Hey, could someone let me know if the attached article is for real or a
>put-on? It is hard to tell. Howard Davis
>
>--
>>From: Das GOAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment
>>Date: Wed, Aug 4, 1999, 4:38 AM
>>
>
>>  >SPRINGFIELD, IL--With the state legislature's passage of a bill last
>>  >week allowing police officers to cite Led Zeppelin bumper stickers as
>>  >probable cause for a vehicular search for drugs, Illinois became the
>>  >13th state to recognize rock-and-roll-related decorations as sufficient
>>  >legal grounds for bypassing the need for a search warrant.
>>
>
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[CTRL] Clinton Corruption Too Much for Mafia Don

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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Wednesday August 4, 2:47 AM

Clinton Corruption Too Much for Mafia Don

Lost in the rush of news emanating from Hillary Clinton's recent burst of
candor in Talk magazine was this amazing tidbit in Tuesday's New York Daily
News:

Don Addicted to Monicagate

John Gotti is a news junkie, and he found a feast in the Bill Clinton-Monica
Lewinsky scandal. He says Clinton got away with conduct a Mafia gangster
would never be allowed to get away with.

He told his brother Peter that, based on what he heard Clinton say in
tape-recorded conversations with onetime lover Gennifer Flowers, it sounded
like Clinton was telling her to lie.

"He's telling her, 'Why would you want to bring this out? If anybody
investigates, you lie.' "

The tapes, made in 1991 when Clinton was making his first White House bid
and Flowers was thinking about telling her story, surfaced in 1992 and were
picked up by the media again when the Clinton-Lewinsky matter began to brew
early last year.

Gotti heard them on Jan. 29. The next day, he said they showed that Clinton
implied to Flowers she wouldn't get in trouble if she lied because he could
"get to" any judge.

Gotti's verdict on the president? "If he had an Italian last name, they
would've electrocuted him."
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml


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[CTRL] Archbishop of Canterbury: Doubts Resurrection of Jesus

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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Tuesday August 3, 10:06 PM

Archbishop Raises Doubts over Resurrection

Third Wayism is infecting everyone these days.

Tony Blair has led the Third Way march in Great Britain, as the Clintons
have here.

The Third Way is socialism using non-economic means. It calls for a
restructuring of the social, educational, religious, medical and other major
institutions that create the framework for a modern capitalist society.

Blair set the tone when his new education ministers started reforming
Britain's national school curriculum. Among the topics immediately dumped
from teacher lesson plans was Winston Churchill.

No matter that Churchill had helped win World War II and had been a major
figure for more than five decades of the century. No matter that some
historians view him as the most important figure of the century. Blair's
government had him stricken from all British history lessons.

Such Third Wayism has a way of spreading like a bad disease.

Earlier this week, Britain's Daily Mail reported that the archbishop of
Canterbury, George Carey, has raised significant doubts as to whether Jesus
of Nazareth ever rose from the dead.

The archbishop's pronouncement might be akin to the pope stepping out on his
balcony overlooking St. Peter's Square to announce he just realized he may
not be a Catholic after all.

Using the opportunity of the Millennium -- which marks 2,000 years from the
birth of the Jewish carpenter -- Carey wrote to the faithful, "I can tell
you frankly that while we can be absolutely sure that Jesus lived and that
He was certainly crucified on the Cross, we cannot with the same certainty
say that we know He was raised by God from the dead."

Carey argued that the resurrection "goes against human experience, and our
first instinct is incredulity." He also suggested the idea of the
Resurrection may have helped contribute to the Holocaust.

The archbishop is the head of the Church of England. He is the second-most
prominent figure in Christendom
after the pope. He has now questioned the validity of the central tenet of
all Christian belief.

The Church of England, as a state-sponsored religion, has close ties to the
state. The archbishop apparently didn't think he'd ruffle any feathers with
Tony "Third Way" Blair.

Carey blames the Jesus movement for all evil throughout history. He wrote
that Christianity "has contributed to the oppression of women, to policies
of imperialism, slavery and the repression of free speech."
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover.shtml

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[CTRL] BUCHANAN BLASTS WIRE REPORT; NO PLANS TO LEAVE GOP

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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Patrick Buchanan late on Wednesday strongly denied an ASSOCAITED PRESS story
that quoted "officials" saying Buchanan is preparing to leave the Republican
Party to seek the presidential nomination of the Reform Party.

In an interview with Dan Balz of the WASHIGNTON POST, set for publication on
Thursday, Buchanan throws cold water on a fire started by AP reporter Ron
Fournier, accusing unnamed rivals of attempting to disrupt his campaign on
the eve of the Iowa GOP straw poll.

"The timing is curious," Buchanan said of the AP report about his
intentions.

"I think it is being pumped up by people who I think do not wish us well in
the straw poll."

Buchanan tells Balz: "If the Republican Party veers off the road, that's
their business. My first commitment is to my ideals and convictions. As Jack
Kennedy once said, 'Sometimes party loyalty asks too much,' but right now
I'm going down the road as a Republican."

AP's Ron Fournier quoted "officials close to Buchanan and in the Reform
Party."


http://www.drudgereport.com/matt1.htm

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment

1999-08-04 Thread Howard R. Davis III

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Hey, could someone let me know if the attached article is for real or a
put-on? It is hard to tell. Howard Davis

--
>From: Das GOAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment
>Date: Wed, Aug 4, 1999, 4:38 AM
>

>  >SPRINGFIELD, IL--With the state legislature's passage of a bill last
>  >week allowing police officers to cite Led Zeppelin bumper stickers as
>  >probable cause for a vehicular search for drugs, Illinois became the
>  >13th state to recognize rock-and-roll-related decorations as sufficient
>  >legal grounds for bypassing the need for a search warrant.
>

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[CTRL] Fwd: Kosovo War's Carnegie Roots

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan





SOURCE:  The New American, August 2, 1999, page 7
http://www.thenewamerican.com/


Kosovo War's Carnegie Roots

Since before World War I, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace has
excelled at the use of war to transform American society and pursue
collectivist ends.

John B. Roberts II, a writer, television producer, and publicist, reveals in
a fascinating report from the June 'American Spectator' that NATO's
terrorist war against Yugoslavia has its roots in a 1992 Carnegie Endowment
initiative.

Roberts is well qualified to draw this conclusion, given that he had been
hired to help publicize the Endowment's effort -- and has since come to
regret his involvement.

Milton Abramowitz, president of the Carnegie Endowment between 1991 and
1997, "established a blue-ribbon commission of policy experts to create a
new U.S. foreign policy framework," recalls Roberts.

The release of that commission's first report was timed to coincide with the
1992 Democratic National Convention, and the commissions consisted
essentially of "Clinton's Cabinet-in-waiting":  Madeleine Albright, Henry
Cisneros, John Duetch, Richard Holbrooke,
Alice Rivlin, David Gergen, Admiral William Crowe, and "numerous lesser
luminaries who would nonetheless get sub-Cabinet appointments"

For "bipartisan balance," Richard Perle and James Schlesinger were brought
on board.

In brief, it was a Carnegie/CFR exercise in creating a "consensus" on behalf
of a radical new foreign policy.


Roberts writes that the report, 'Changing Our Ways:  America's role in the
New World', urged "a new principle of international relations:  the
destruction or displacement of groups of people who in states can justify
international intervention."

Through this document, "the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace was
girding for war.
All it needed was a president eager to do battle" -- and a foreign "crisis"
that would inaugurate the new doctrine.

By lucky hap, Albanian President Sali Berisha was visiting with Bujar
Bukoshi in Kosovo just as the report was being framed back in Washington.

Berisha told Bukoshi, "We must demand the right for self-determination of
the Albanians in ex-Yugoslavia."

"After six years as the Carnegie Endowment's president, Abramowitz in 1997
moved on to the Council on Foreign Relations," recalls Roberts.

"In January of this year he published a column in the 'Wall Street Journal'
urging a drastic shift in U.S. policy toward Kosovo.  It was time,
Abramowitz counseled, to support full independence for Kosovo."

Shortly thereafter came the Racak "massacre," the Rambouillet ultimatum, and
NATO's war of aggression in Yugoslavia.


Bard

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and it is our duty,
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[CTRL] How to go brain dead in easy links

1999-08-04 Thread piper

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http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/chem.htm
How many of you realize that the brain cells
are nerve cells that have myelin sheaths on them?
check out the Canola Oil and how it strips the myelin
sheath off of nerves!

Here are some other links as we go brain dead.

No MSG. < http://www.nomsg.com/ > This is
about current legislation to approve
the use of MSG to spray
 plants as a growth aid.  Comments
about the spraying will close this month.

Acidophilus
Ultra Bio-Logics Feed
< http://www.ctv.es/clean_world_hispania/feeds.htm >
Acidophilus for animal feed.
Nutrrigen
< http://www.ozemail.com.au/~darrenpotts/nutrigen/products.html >
needed for “mouth,
stomach and intestines to aid in the
digestion of food.”  “eight essential Amino
Acids used by the liver to synthesize
the other 158 Amino Acids.” “22% Glutamic
Acid (recognised as a brain fuel).”

Cell Tech’s
< http://www.mailorderfoods.com/members/celltech/acidophi.html >
“helps prevent the growth
of harmful bacteria (pathogens).”
“Antibiotics, some cortisone-like drugs,
birth control pills, alcohol, some food
additives, caffeine, chlorinated or fluoridated
water, and stress, can destroy the
natural intestinal flora.”

What can kill the “friendly” bacteria?  <
http://www.montrose-clinic.org/education/nutr/f_bacteria.htm >
 “Antibiotics…leaving the intestines at the
mercy of the opportunistic bacteria
and toxins.” “Too much sugar, a bad diet,
certain oral contraceptives, aspirin, corticosteriods,
yeast, and too much streess…enabling the
harmful bacteria to flourish, thereby causing
putrefaction and the manufacturing of toxic products.”

Antibiotics
Farm Use of Antibiotics Squanders Precious Drugs. <
http://www.cspinet.org/new/antibiotics.htm >
 “More thaan 50 scientists and 41 health,
consumer, and other groups today
called on the Food and
Drug Administration (FDA) to ban the
use of certain antibiotics to fatten
livestock.” “Adding antibiotics to livestock
feed can lead to antibiotic resistance in foodborne
pathogens.  That can make cases of food
poisoning difficult to treat of even deadly.” “prevalence of
antibiotic-resistant enterococci bacteria in
chickens declined from 82% to 12% in three years.”

Chemicals
Pearch, Fred and Debora Mackenzie. It’s
raining pesticides. New Scientist 3 april 1999. 12 Apr. 1999
< http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19990403/newsstory12.html >
“a new study reveals that much of the
precipitation in Europe contains such high levels of
dissolved pesticides that it would be illegal
to supply it as drinking water.”  Has Novartis’
weedkiller Target and Monsanto’s Glyphosate
herbicide round-Up on it.

Recer, Paul. Dioxin Exposure Linked to Cancer.
04 may 1999. 04 May 1999
< http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2559425333-2a0 > Dioxin is
one of the chemicals in the herbicide Agent
Orange.  Refers to exposure to dioxins in the
environment decreasing.

Montague, Peter. Missing Boys.
Rachel’s Environment and Health Weekly.
16 apr. 1999
< http://www.monitor.net/rachel/r594.html >
“increasing birth defects of the
penis and testicles…” “hypothesizing…linked
to exposures to hormone-disrupting
chemicals including dioxin, pesticides,
lead….” “chlorophenoxy herbicides and/or
fungicides, the male proportion among
children born with defects to workers who
apply pesticides was 0.735, compared
to a male proportion of 0.607 for births
with defects among the general population.”

Statement from the World Wild Life Fund. 1992. 11 May 1999.
 < http://www.worldwildlife.org/toxics/progareas/ed/con_1.htm >
“demasculinization and feminization of male
fish, birds, and mammals: defeminization and
masculinization of female fish and birds;
and compromised immune systems in
birds and mammals; defeminization
and masculinization of female fish and birds;
and compromised immune systems in birds
and mammals.”

No MSG. < http://www.nomsg.com/ >
This is about current legislation to approve
the use of MSG to spray
 plants as a growth aid.  Comments
about the spraying will close this month.

Samuels, Adrienne. Monosoduim Glutamate. 10 May 1991.
 < http://www.annapolis.net/members/holland/food.txt >
This article details what can happen to
people and children when they eat MSG,
so I assume that this can happen to
animals as well.

Pollution –and-- Misc. Chemicals
Leavenworth, Stuart. Coastal playground
turned killing ground. The News and
Observer. <  > Hog
Lagoons “Other coastal regions – from
Hong Kong to Venice to the Chesapake Bay –
Have suffered from similar problems.
Maryland and Virginia are spending
millions on a campaign to clean up the
Chesapeake, and in Florida, state and
federal regulators are trying to control
fertilizer runoff into the Everglades
National Park.” “But Paerl, the UNC
marine scientist, noted that overfertilized
waters can breed many kinds of toxic algae and bacteria.”

Greenwald, John. Hogging The Table.
Time Magazine. 18 March 1996. 02 March 1999.
<
http://cgi.pathfinder.com/time/magazine/archive/1996

Re: [CTRL] [0] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

Howdy,
Yes, indeedy — I sure wasn't there and you were. So . . . either his memory
or notes were wrong or that was when he heard the news. I don't know. A
person of his name was writing books recently. Whether that is this person
and he is still with us, and could tell us, again I have no idea.

I am just kinda of a history nut and I found this particular book
interesting. One because it is printed in Poland, in lieu of royalities from
a popular polish edition.  So, it wasn't published here mainstream. There do
not seem to be any copies out in used-bookland on the internet, so there
aren't alot of copies out-there. Seemed interesting and as I am reading
several books, I thought I would share this, whilst creating searchable
databses.

And interesting  intelligence milieu and from an overview seems to delve into
interesting areas. So we shall see. . .

On to better understandings . . . and to the utmosts of futures!

Om
K

In a message dated 8/4/99 5:59:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>k
>
>One minor point...he says word of the end of the war came before "evening
>chow".
>
>
>His memory is off.  I took the cease fire radio message for our little unit
>and it was
>6AM...in the early morning.
>
>T

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Re: [CTRL] excerpts from Revictimization Of Survivors

1999-08-04 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

Below please find excerpts from the article below.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

This may be triggering for survivors of abuse. All accusations are alleged.

excerpts from: http://www.carleton.ca/~whovdest/swap.html

BEARING WITNESS TO THE PATRIARCHAL REVICTIMIZATION OF SURVIVORS

by Connie M. Kristiansen, Carleton University
Newsletter of the Section on Women and Psychology, Vol 20, No 2, page 7-16.

my note: these statements were made in rebuttal to a speaker at  McGill
University

"He was drowned out, reduced to a whisper, by the jeering, whistling,
coughing, shouts and rattling noisemakers of survivors. Survivors who knew
their power because they had borne witness to an unbelievable truth before.
Survivors whose hearts beat softly, oh but ever so firmly, saying, "when we
speak we are afraid our words will not be heard or welcomed. But when we are
silent, we are still afraid. So it is better to speak, remembering, we were
never meant to survive" (Audre Lorde, 'Litany for Survival')."

"Not since Dr. Ralph Underwager, formerly on the Advisory Board of the FMS
Foundation, was forced to resign after he proclaimed that "Paedophiles can
boldly and courageously affirm what they choose With boldness they can
say, 'I believe this is in fact part of God's will'Paedophiles need to
become more positive and make the claim that paedophilla is an acceptable
expression of God's will for love and unity among human beings" (Geraci,
1993). And not since Jennifer Freyd, a cognitive psychologist at the
University of Oregon and the daughter of the FMS Foundation Executive
Director Dr. Pamela Freyd, exposed her father's sexual abuse and the way in
which her parents are using the FMS Foundation as a weapon in their personal
war against her (Freyd, 1993). "As one clinician said at a national meeting
recently about the FMSF: "there is persuasive evidence that this organization
grew out of one family's feud that's overgrown it's boundaries and come into
the popular culture" (cited in Freyd, 1993)."

"...how can you claim that recovered memories of abuse are false? One, Herman
and Schatzow's (1987) finding that 74% of 53 women in group therapy, 64% of
whom had moderate to severe amnesia, were able to obtain corroborating
evidence, including pornographic photographs, for their recovered memories.
Two, William's (1992) finding that 38% of a sample of 100 adult women failed
to recall their childhood sexual abuse, abuse documented some 20 years
earlier in hospital medical records. Three, a literature review by Brewin,
Andrew and Gotlib (1993) showing that recollections of childhood are more
accurate than previously thought and that it is parent's recollections, not
those of their adult children, that are distorted. Four, Summit's (1983)
finding that children minimize the frequency and severity of their abuse,
compared to the subsequent confessions of their parents. Five, findings that
in the case of battering, it is the male abusers who underestimate the
frequency and severity of the abuse they inflicted (cited in Brewin et al.).
Six, Famina, Yeager and Lewis' (1990) finding that among a sample of 69
abused youths, all distortions of abuse were in the direction of
minimization, out of embarrassment, shame and the desire to forget about it.
And seven, based on her study of 150 children who had experienced a variety
of traumas, Lenore Terr (1991), a professor of child psychiatry at the
University of California, noted that "even those who were infants or toddlers
at the time of their ordeal and thus were unable to lay down, store, or
retrieve full verbal memories of their traumas tend to play out, to draw, or
to re-see highly visualized elements from their old experiences." As an
example, Terr cites the case of a five year old who had been sexually abused
in a daycare home between 15 and 18 months of age. The discovery was made
when US Customs officers found pornographic photos of the girl. In
retrospect, the parents realized that since the girl first began to draw, she
had sketched hundreds of nude adults. And while playing in Terr's office, the
child told Terr that a baby she drew was 'all naked' and a 'bad girl.'
Moreover, while children may have no verbal recall of their abuse, they do
re-enact their abuse in their play, repeating aspects of the original trauma.
And such repetitive behaviors have been observed in children who were exposed
to trauma prior to age 12 months when they had no verbal memory. For example,
the five year old girl I just described experienced 'funny feelings' in her
'tummy' every time a finger was pointed at her. The confiscated pornographic
photos showed an erect penis jabbing the exact spot on the 15 to 18 month
infant's belly. Thus, while adults may not recall personally meaningless
events before the age of three or four, such as where they were at the time
of Kennedy's assassination, they can recall trauma experienced during
infancy, although such recollections may not appear i

Re: [CTRL] America's "Mad Deer" Epidemic

1999-08-04 Thread piper

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Bill Kingsbury wrote:

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>
>  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ronnie Cummins)
>  To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subj: Center for Food Safety News #19 - June 4,1999
>
>  News and Analysis on Genetic Engineering,
>  Factory Farming, & Organics
>  by: Ronnie Cummins & Ben Lilliston
>
>  America's "Mad Deer" Epidemic:
>
>  A Public Health Time Bomb Set to Explode?
>
>  As we pointed out in an earlier issue (Food Bytes #2, September 24,
>  1997), there is increasing evidence that the US has a growing
>  number of people coming down with the human equivalent of Mad Cow
>  Disease, called CJD (Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease).  Although the meat
>  industry, the blood plasma cartel, and the Centers for Disease
>  Control tell us there's no need to worry, that only 250 Americans a
>  year are dying from this incurable brain-wasting disease, we remain
>  skeptical.  The CDC and the USDA tell us that it's not necessary to
>  make CJD an "officially reportable disease" (whereby doctors are
>  bound by law to look for it and report all cases to the federal
>  government), or to scientifically test farm animals and Alzheimer
>  patients for the disease, but mounting evidence indicates that as
>  many as 40,000 Americans (or 1% of the nation's 4-6 million people
>  diagnosed with Alzheimer's Disease or dementia) may actually be
>  wasting away with CJD.  See the book Mad Cow USA: Could the
>  Nightmare Happen Here? by John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton
>If you want to order Mad Cow USA, send us
>  $10 at our office in Minnesota and we'll mail you a copy.
>
>  To call attention to this growing public health hazard and to force
>  the government to take action (i.e. to stop the widespread practice
>  in industrial agriculture of "animal cannibalism," the feeding of
>  waste and diseased animal parts back to animals, and to make CJD
>  an official "reportable disease") lawyers at the Center for Food
>  Safety filed two legal petitions in Federal Court in Washington
>  on January 7, 1999.  For details on the CFS legal petitions see
>  
>
>  In Britain and Europe the meat industry's former feeding practice
>  of animal cannibalism has unleashed a fatal Alzheimers-like
>  dementia that is killing a growing number of young victims who ate
>  contaminated beef from mad cows.  Some experts predict hundreds of
>  thousands of Britons and other Europeans may die in the decades
>  ahead due to the long and invisible incubation period of this
>  brain-destroying illness, called "new-variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob
>  Disease" (nvCJD).
>
>  Europe has now banned the feeding practices that spread Mad Cow
>  and nvCJD.  However, in the U.S. the dangerous practice of "animal
>  cannibalism" continues unabated -- with government approval.
>  Although the FDA passed a so-called "mammal-to-mammal animal
>  feed ban" in 1997, the regulation is filled with loopholes, and,
>  according to farmers and ag experts, is not being enforced.
>  As Dr. Michael Hansen of the Consumers Union stated in Genetic
>  Engineering News in July 1997 [the FDA] "rule exempts swine,
>  horses, blood, gelatin and milk from the feed ban... [and] still
>  leaves the door open to spreading of a TSE... [Transmissible
>  Spongiform Encephalopathy]"
>
>  Heretofore unpublished internal USDA and APHIS (Animal Plant
>  Health Inspection Service) documents such as "Bovine Spongiform
>  Encephalopathy in the USA" (July 1993) recently obtained by the
>  Center for Food Safety under the Freedom of Information Act and
>  published on the internet  make it clear that the
>  US government knows that a form of US Mad Cow Disease is already
>  likely present in US cattle and in the food chain.  According to
>  government estimates it is likely that at least 36 animals per year
>  are slaughtered in the US with Mad Cow Disease.  The Clinton
>  administration has prepared an elaborate contingency plan for
>  "damage control" once the first US Mad Cow is confirmed.
>
>  As evidence grows that TSEs (Transmissible Spongiform
>  Encephalopathies or Mad Cow-like diseases) are infecting sheep,
>  deer, elk, and other mammals in the US (including humans) billions
>  of pounds of rendered fat, offal, meat and bone meal continue to be
>  fed back to cows, pigs, chickens, fish, household pets, and elk and
>  deer.  (On so-called deer and elk farms where hunters pay fees to
>  shoot them, deer and elk are often fed rendered animal protein).
>  Rather than invoking the "precautionary principle" to protect human
>  health, the powerful U.S. beef and industrial agriculture lobby has
>  convinced the government to issue a watered down feed ban while
>  waging war against free speech by lobbying for "food disparagement
>  laws" in more than a dozen states, criminalizing the actions of
>  those such as Oprah Winfrey and Howard Lyman who have spoken out
>  for food safety and warned of an impending Mad Cow-like crisis in
>  the USA.
>
>  Although the apparent increase in 

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1999-08-04 Thread piper

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to those that talk of being vegitarian,
why would people keep cows and chickens, if
there were no profit?

to those that say wearing a fur coat is crulty,
how many chinchillas do you see around now?

To anyone that has breed animals for food and or
fur and hide and kept
them in thier best condition, take a look at
the average family dog and wonder.

Millions are spent on the average race horse,
and animal athelet.  The same that millions are
spent on the average football player or actor.

If those horses did not get to compete would
there be as many people that have horses?  What
would happen to all the ranches?  Plowed fields,
or housing subdivisions?

If you have made it this far, let's get serious!

If we were able to replicate or clone on a regular
basis, where would be keep the basic DNA?  A
computer person would ask were is the source code
kept, and can you bring the program up from scatch?
Why do I ask this?  If you were getting rid of many
plants and animals, from the bacteria that die from
antibiotics down the drain, to the animals that are not
economically feasable to keep anymore.  Where are you
keeping thier DNA?

If we go to the stars and meet other lifeforms strange to
us, what would we trade, metals and pretty rocks?  Gold
and diamonds might be common items on other planets and
in asteroids.  What we do have is a diversity of plant and
animal life that if someones cloning, replicator, or
documantion fails - they would be able to get it from the
Earth.  They might also like to read a good book.  Our history
might intrest them.  They did it and might wonder about some
of the hurdles that we were able to overcome, as well as how
honest we had been with ourselves.

What if there were and intergalactic stock market?  What
would be traded?  DNA source codes, Think of all the
unique DNA (S.American rain forests, the old forests
of England, ect) that has been lost.  Where are they
backing up that DNA source code?  Ask any
computer programer and they will say that there
are some in this world that are going for short
term profits at a long term loss!

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6-20-99
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THAT SAID - HERE IS SOME "FOOD FOR THOUGHT"

Could perfume companies sue? Loss of revenue due to pesticides and herbicides???

Could Alcohol companies sue? Loss of revenue due to the potential that
pesticides and herbicides
have bound to their grain / fruits and all their back stock will have to be
destroyed?
Will Alcohol companies go organic, fast enough? Are they organic already?
Think of Chivas Regal (imported into America) would it still be imported?

More females than males. Pesticides again? Headlineing homosexualism but is it
"same sex
orientation" for mutual pleasure or is it control fiends that are using them to
advance an idea of
"sadism, masochism"?
To me, this current preoccupation about sex, and having a 'potty mouth' is
straight out of 1984's idea
of "Quack, Quack" with the sex part from "Brave New World" with any future males
clonned. Take
the ideas from the original "Robin Hood" on how most of us will be serfs and you
have a idea of
what I see as part of this 'mind set'.

Right now companies like Monsanto as well as the US government are backing
Genetically Modified
foods and plants. What would happen to many of the consumables that take a long
time to prepare.
That usually just happens to be prepared using some kind of bacterial culturing?
What would happen
if for some reason they were to suddenly reverse this idea? Companies out of
business? Would it
happen, would they do it before they get irradiation approved? Irradiation seems
to produce fluoride
which has been proven to be poisonous and irradiation also kills the beneficial
bacteria and enzymes.

Will allergy sufferer get a class action law suit against pesticides and
herbicides?
Food Poisoning: E-Coli at source or did the E-Coli develop in someone's gut
after getting a cut of
meat with antibiotics, herbicides or pesticides in it?
More females than males. Pesticides again? Headlineing homosexualism but is it
"same sex
orientation"
for mutual pleasure or is it control fiends that are using them to advance an
idea of "sadism,
masochism"?



Are flower perfumes releasing 'herbicides and pesticides
Into the air. Allergies from the flower, or to the additives?
Natural (from flowers) perfumes would also concentrate the additives.


Plants can live without us, we can not live without them.
So a space faring race seeing that we are committing suicide by adding toxins to
our foods / eatable
bacteria would they contact us?
Allow that disease to spread?
Allow us to poison their plants / bacteria / food?
Allow the kind of mind set that would have control at all costs to spread?
Allow that kind of narrow mind set that would go for a monopoly under the guise
of "Survival of the
fittest" at the cost of "survival of the species" to spread?
We are quarantining ourselves quite well, how long do we have?
To believe that there will be anywhere safe.
The Bacteria will pick up that adaptation.


If some one eats garlic do you smell it?
If a plant / flower were after a fertilizer / pollinator would they compete for
that fertilizer / pollinator?
How would they do it?
By taking items from their food (fertilizer) and incorporating them in their
scents?

Pollen and pesticides blow in the wind.
Are flower perfumes releasing 'herbicides, pesticides' into the air?
Released as scents. Allergies from the plant or the additives that are added to
the plant?

To be safe they would have to live in space –
Not import anything – food or animal (no bacteria) from Earth.
More females than males
Aids is a fallacy
(chemicals – immune system shuts down eventually)
- chem.htm –
Look through my site for other links like
Coors and connections from this beer company to a type of Religion and some that
are in political
power.

The fact that more females are being born than males, "ref" Pesticides and how
they effect the fetus.
How could

'Traditional' family values continue if there is no way to have a traditional
family?

The Political and Religious parties of America have to know this yet they still
hype the traditional
family.

Idolizing leads to dead ends in your thinking, yet males do not see how they are
being maneuvered to
thinking

that it is the seven year itch – or what ever, some males just think that it is
natural.



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1999-08-04 Thread piper

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6-29-99

Evolution: or De-Evolution?


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Only bothers Monarch caterpillar
But by the time you add in Genetically Modified
Cotton seed oil
Tomatoes
Potatoes
Corn
Corn oil
Soybeans
And last but not least on the GM line up
Peanuts
Could it be that they will effect us?
And what would these items do to the sick? Elderly? Children? Babies?
Will there be live beneficial bacteria and beneficial enzymes for human guts?

And on top of this 'I' heard they want to kill what ever bacteria are left with
irradiation.

Psychologists that think a belief in a higher deity could be a psychosis.
If they also do not study history they think that they are 'lords' and end up
constantly reinventing the
wheel.
Every Religion a different day of rest babies born able to make the sounds of
any language
People that idolize the Holocaust and do not realize that it started way before
Hitler. The facts are in
the history books that education was already changing before became a name. What
happened to
those that protested the change in education? Were they declaired insain, or
were they labeled
conspirisy theorests?
Survival of the fittest is not always survival of the species.
The Human Being, a number of organs, in a collaboration
Acidophilus bacteria, what kind of bacteria protects our brains
Bacteria -> working together in a symbolic relationship in our bodies


What kind of bacteria would be in a tree that was alive 100's of years.
A tree, rooted, would they like big dinosaurs that could uproot them just by
passing by
Flowers and plants for that small human biped to eat.
A biped that helped kills dinosaurs.
How long did it take the dinosaurs to die out?
Humans that travel and help digest food for plants
DNA and bacteria from meteorites
We are killing the plants and bacteria
Some have thoughts of weeding humans out to protect the plants
Other thoughts that plants are not needed, we can replicate
Thoughts of males being the major problem, they supposedly are aggressive
If all that is needed is cloning, reference budding why has males
All females (lesbians) if sex is desired replication through cloning
Ants cultivate fungus (reference S. American ants)
Ants decompose items
Pollinators are no longer needed
Dinosaurs, humans, ants
How much longer will humans be around?


Ebonics, genetic?
Editors, how would someone with a mind set of genocide edit compared to
someone that is looking at a long term investment edit?
One would believe / edit (have a thought database) for control the other would
edit for the
population being able to control itself.
One would be a addict to control the other would want to add to their achedemic
database and
want to get out as soon as possible
If we get rid of all the decomposers (example alligators, the lg. South American
fish –Tripi) what
would they be replaced with.
What kind of bacteria decomposes poisonous plants like philodemrums?


Why do humans (particularly Americans) laugh? Because it can hurt so much.
What if plants / trees were intelligent and wanted to replicate on other worlds?
– How would they do
it?
Once bacteria / plants get there what would they have to do? Eco system.
DNA from meteorite bacteria, spores, DNA / pollen.
Bacteria are very competitive, why would the bacteria that lives in synthesis
with humans be able to
prove that it is top dog?
Why would other bacteria be willing to work with human bacteria?
Humans are a collaboration of different bacteria, a lot of bacteria per human
and we spread the
bacteria that plants need. Why are we so in-efficient at food decomposition that
we need to eat and
defecate so much?
Game Trails – hooves compared to pads

When you are rooted in one place (trees)
Have you food (light) brought to you
Have your fertilizer brought to you
Why are we prized?
As Omnivores we have more bacteria and a greater collection of food sources in
our waste
products. It would seem that herbivores (inefficient hay burners) would be the
most prized)
Carnivores need too many herbivores each to live.,
Which ants would be the most prized? The ones that travel the longest distances.

Ants cultivating fungus (reference some South American ants)
Fire Ants to Army Ants
Which areas of humans have gone cannibalistic / competitive? The ones that are
poor fertilizers. That
kill the plants and horde midnight soil (honey pots)

Plants in symbolic relationships:
Organic pesticide may aid GM crops
"They discovered that when the common tomato it is attacked by the beet
armyworm, it secretes a
chemical which attracts the worm's natural enemy - a tiny parasitic wasp. The
team showed that
spraying the tomatoes with jasmonic acid, the chemical the tomato produces to
set off the alarm call,
resulted in twice as many armyworm caterpillars being killed. "
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6-11-99
http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/the_end.htm
The End:
of Human and Animal on Earth
Is this Sci-Fi or Thriller?
Circle of Life
Plants can live without us, animals and humans can NOT live without plants
Survival of Fittest or survival of the species
Are there others with brains out on other planets?
Why haven’t we contacted them?
Are there intelligent plants species on other planets?
Would they contact plant species on this planet?
With all the chemicals we are producing we are killing the planet.
If there were a bacteria that only activated on pollution
The more pollution we create the more danger we are in.
Plants the greatest chemical factories there are.
For most poisons there are antidotes
Kind of like competing Pharasudical companies???
Plants:
Dinosaurs – Ferns
Flowering Plants – taking advantage of Polinators
The polinators are killing – plants taking advantage of toxins
Who need murdering polinators.
Murder? – They are only using what is given.
End result – some plants will die out but Plants as a life form will survive.
There are other ways of pollination.


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first rough draft

There are some that worry about abortion, and others worried about the
environment. Do we have a
surplus of human beings?

The heading I fall under is survivalist!

1) For People that read the Bible and the saying “Be fruitful and multiply,
replenish the earth, and
subdue it, and have dominion over all creation.” Genesis 1:28 Dominion does not
mean to hurt, or to
destroy. Consider; we are created in the image of the Creator, This quote came
from the book of
Genesis; Which is the book of Creation. This would imply that Dominion would
involve creation.

2) “But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil; thou shall not eat of it; for
in that day that thou
eatest thereof, thou shall surely die.” Genesis 2:17 Even if you do not want the
apple of knowledge
you will be provided for from the land. Implies reincarnation in the Creators
image! YET… the
Creator had some big shoes Do you imply that you are of that league Or just
trying to follow the
theme. My father and yours. Yes, I do intellectualize the bible, Expessally when
I found out that
many Of the bible ‘experts’ came from the same Area and propoganda of the
Holocaust.

3) Those that
Chain of thought - to flesh out
3) Deer, wolf, Mountain Lion, Cannibalism
Gold, Diamonds – DNA source codes
Intergalactic Stock Market
Carbon based life form – does it have bugs in the programing
DNA source codes – where are they keeping the backup
4) Could the bible be right about when we will be checked again?
Closed System, space ship, total recycle: all waste and bodies
Acidophilus – no drugs they would make the waste biohazards.
Toxins – no plant toxins; they would kill the soil bacteria and
Make it where the plants would not grow as well.
The plants would not have the benificial soil bacteria
And enzimes required for growth – this could mean that
Plant toxins could kill the benificial bacteria in human guts
-- this along with spraying of MSG on plants,
irradiation, antibiotics, pesticides and herbicides.
How long are humans suppose to last?
Weeding out
Experiments
Subtle

Intelligent Plant that eats bipeds
What would happen if a intellegent plant species that normally
Ate bipeds were to visit.
How do we prove that we are intellegent?
It seems as if we have only gone to the intellectual limit –
of our capabilities - that our phallangies have
Given us?
White, James. Major Operation. NY, Ballantine, 1971.
Das Kept -- Suicide Pact,
In keeping us uneducated and at the level of animals.




6-13-94 People Mag Cover Story “Diana’s new Life” “Topless bathing? Holistic
Healing?
Aromatherapy? Anything goes as a liberated Diana struggles to find herself”

(they chose the future queen too well, and she was too nosy if she had found out
about AIDS being
a falacy

and -I suspect- soviets hording heirloom seeds. Spacestation?

Bush family substidizing soviets from holocaust

Gore and Dole

Clinton governer of Arkansaw during time of AIDS

from prison plasma

tie up new inventions to keep monopoly



3-11-96 Di-Vorce

1996 Pedifiles in Belguim - NATO

July 1997 Hong Kong

Sept 97 Diana Dies

1997 John Denver dies



The Unauthorized Bio of George Bush

1996 Bush Sr. caught as pedifile

Rockefeller Drug Empire

Coors

Soviet Snuf films

Aids

Floride



1) Surplus

2) Created in Creators image

3) Even if you do not want the apple of knowledge you will be provided for from
the land

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The Waco cover-up begins to unravel
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By Paul Craig Roberts


In July 27, the chairman of the Texas Department of Public Safety, James B.
Francis Jr., told the Dallas Morning News that evidence in possession of the
Texas Rangers calls into question the federal government's account of the
deadly federal assault and subsequent fire that claimed the lives of scores
of men, women and children in the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas,
in 1993.
 Mr. Francis wants to turn the evidence over to federal district court
Judge Walter Smith. The U.S. Department of Justice is trying to block the
Texas Rangers from releasing the evidence.
 Mr. Francis says that the Rangers have "some evidence that the world
needs to see, in my opinion. The government does not want this evidence out,
and yet, that's not right." Mr. Francis added: "It is a complete stonewall."
 The Texas Rangers should not trust Judge Smith with the evidence. Judge
Smith presided over the trial of the Waco survivors. He has been strongly
denounced by the jury foreman and jury members for misleading the jury in
order to sentence the survivors. The jury foreman has repeatedly criticized
Judge Smith for sentencing the survivors for offenses for which the jury did
not convict.
 Judge Smith deceived the jury to oblige the Justice Department. By
handing down long sentences that the jury did not intend, Judge Smith
prevented the verdict from casting doubt on the government's explanation of
what happened at Waco and prevented the survivors from being available to
the media to tell their stories.
 Judge Smith is also presiding over the large number of wrongful death
civil suits brought by relatives of the Waco dead against the federal
government. In order to protect the government, Judge Smith has been
endeavoring to throw out and block most of the suits and to exclude as much
evidence as possible.
 Lawyers and investigators involved in the wrongful death suits tell me
that they have powerful evidence that the federal government is guilty of
criminal assault, criminal negligence, and reckless endangerment.
 The evidence of wrongful death is partly the work of seasoned
investigators like Gordon Novel, and persistent attorneys such as David
Hardy, who succeeded in forcing release of information through the Freedom
of Information Act. But some important evidence appears to have leaked from
government officials sickened by the federal massacre and cover-up.
 There is a belief within the government itself that if the federal
government gets away with its Waco cover-up, the casualty will be the rule
of law.
 Former Attorney General Ramsey Clark is a lawyer for many of the
wrongful death suits. He described to me some of the key evidence: the FLIR
tape (Forward Looking Infra Red), which shows federal automatic fire into
the compound on the day of the fire.
 Mr. Clark also has Dr. Edward F. Allard's "Thermal Imaging Report" and
the "Sun Reflection Geometry Report" prepared by Maurice Cox of the National
Reconnaissance Office. These reports make clear that the images on the FLIR
tape are images of federal gunfire.
 Mr. Hardy says he has an FBI report that acknowledges federal gunshots
during the fire originating from an FBI position designated as Sierra One.
 Mr. Hardy also has an Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms memo reporting that
three ATF agents went on a friendly shooting excursion with David Koresh
nine days before the initial ATF assault on the compound. Koresh was the
Branch Davidian leader who the government claims could not be lured out of
the compound to be served with a warrant.
 Recently, the Texas Rangers allowed Michael McNulty, producer of the
award-winning 1997 documentary "Waco: The Rules of Engagement," access to
physical evidence that incendiary devices were fired into the compound by
federal agents on the day of the fire. Mr. McNulty is working on a sequel to
his award-winning film.
 Former Attorney General Ramsey Clark says the evidence of wrongful
death is overwhelming --even without the powerful evidence in his
possession. "The first civil right," Mr. Clark says, "is to be free from
unlawful and excessive force by your own police. That is the difference
between a free society and a police state."
 "At Waco a police force exceeding 700 men with armo

Re: [CTRL] [0] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany

1999-08-04 Thread ASu2431426

 -Caveat Lector-

k

One minor point...he says word of the end of the war came before "evening
chow".


His memory is off.  I took the cease fire radio message for our little unit
and it was
6AM...in the early morning.

T

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[CTRL] Debt buyback by Goverment

1999-08-04 Thread ESG

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Hello,

Could someone tell me how the proposed buyback of  U.S. debt by the
goverment would affect the workings of the fed. And what "fiat
money"would the goverment use
to purchase this debt. Would it not be that the goverment would end up
owing more, just not in the public eye.

Thanks for any answers.

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[CTRL] [1] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany
Arthur D. Rahn
Former Chief Editor of Intelligence Office of the Director of Information
Control
Office of Military Government, Germany
No Date - Printed in Poland
out-of-print
-
---" NOT until I sat down to write this book and reflected on my experience
and organized my notes did I realize that what had seemed to me and my
friends in Germany to be a chaos of corruption and incompetence had actually
been a planned development following a very definite pattern. In fact, it has
become increasingly clear that the pattern of events in Germany from 1944 to
mid-1947 mirrored in sharp perspective what was happening at home in America.
Developments in Germany, too, have paralleled our actions in the United
Nations and our relations with the Soviet Union, Greece, Spain, China,
Britain, Israel — with the entire world."---

Om
K
-
CHAPTER ONE

Operation Aachen: First Victory and Defeat

"The true goal we seek is far above and beyond -the ugly field of battle.
When we resort to force, as now we must, we are determined that this force
shall be directed toward ultimate good as well as against immediate evil. We
Americans are not destroyers — we are builders."

>From Fireside Chat, December 9, 1941.

AACHEN was test case number one, where the GIs and MG first showed their
stuff in Germany and the conflict between the different philosophies on how
to deal with the Germans was first exposed.

On September 10, 1944, the first American shells burst on the soil of
Hitler's Thousand Year Reich. The GIs were swinging into the Nazi homeland. A
week later the American First Army began the siege of Aachen, our first
German city. At our headquarters in Twelfth Army Group Psychological Warfare,
we were taking bets again on the end of the war. "Christmas", fellows were
saying, "Christmas, for sure."

At the end of the month, on September 29th, in recognition of the beginning
of the occupation of Germany, General Dwight Eisenhower, the Allied Supreme
Commander, announced our intentions in a proclamation to the Germans:

"We come as conquerors, but not as oppressors... We shall overthrow the Nazi
rule, dissolve the Nazi party and abolish the cruel, oppressive and
discriminatory laws and institutions which the Party has created. We shall
eradicate the German militarism which has so often disrupted the peace of the
world."

Even the cynical guys, the fellows who used to say. "What's the matter with
you dumb bastards? You think it's going to be any different this time than it
was after the last war?" — even they shook their heads. This was pretty good
stuff, the brass was doing all right.

But the German High Command realized that if Aachen didn't hold, we'd flood
through the Siegfried Line right to the Rhine before von Rundstedt; could
regroup the shattered Wehrmacht divisions we'd routed out of France. Von
Rundstedt issued an order of the day warning the German troops: "I expect you
to defend the sacred German soil with all your might to the last." And the
Fritz fought for every pillbox.

Aachen had important psychological as well as strategic significance, and
Hitler knew it as well as we did. As Charlemagne's capital and the repository
of his tomb and an ancient Roman outpost and medieval cultural center, Aachen
was a home of German legend and a shrine of German military glory. Now, as
the first German city under attack in the West, Aachen had new importance.
All over the Reich I the Germans were watching Aachen and waiting for
Hitler's decision — to spare the city or turn it into a symbol of German
resistance to the death. What happened in Aachen would determine what policy
the Nazis would follow in other cities.

To exploit the propaganda possibilities in the situation, we marshalled our
entire arsenal of psychological warfare in support of the combat forces,
spraying the city with leaflets from the big guns embanked in an arc about
the valley and from hundreds of planes overhead. Public address trucks inched
up to the frontlines repeating the messages we were broadcasting continuously
over powerful Radio Luxembourg: "Save Aachen from useless destruction...
further resistance is hopeless... Eisenhower promises conquest without
oppression... prisoners will receive good treatment."

>From a wealthy citizen of Aachen we learned that our psychological warfare
had claimed an important victim, Graf von Schwerin, the commanding general of
the 116th Panzer (Armored) Division. He had opposed the forced evacuation of
the city ordered by the Fuehrer and advised citizens to remain in their
homes. He had desired to save Aachen by declaring it an open city. A scion of
one of the most ancient Junker families in Germany, von Schwerin had acted
like a "queer duck" before. From captured documents we knew he had sharply
disagreed with his superiors two or three times over the conduct of the
campaign in France and had in each case appealed directly and personally to
the Fu

[CTRL] [0] BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

an excerpt from:
BETRAYAL - Our Occupation of Germany
Arthur D. Rahn
Former Chief Editor of Intelligence
Office of the Director of Information Control
Office of Military Government, Germany
No Date - Printed in Poland
out-of-print
-
---" NOT until I sat down to write this book and reflected on my experience
and organized my notes did I realize that what had seemed to me and my
friends in Germany to be a chaos of corruption and incompetence had actually
been a planned development following a very definite pattern. In fact, it has
become increasingly clear that the pattern of events in Germany from 1944 to
mid-1947 mirrored in sharp perspective what was happening at home in America.
Developments in Germany, too, have paralleled our actions in the United
Nations and our relations with the Soviet Union, Greece, Spain, China,
Britain, Israel — with the entire world."---

Om
K
-


"I have assured our men in the armed forces that the American people would
not let them down when the war is won".

FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT in a Fireside Chat, July 28, 1943.

ABOUT THIS BOOK

THIS book seeks to expose to the American people the actual results of the
Truman Doctrine in the nations where it is applied, how it betrays our war
aims and aggravates international tensions. I have limited the scope of this
essay to a discussion of the American Zone (of Germany) to focus on our own
policy and methods without becoming involved in tangential issues.

On the premise that many Americans do not fully understand such terms as
"reactionary", the "democratic middle", "the red menace", etc., I have
attempted to humanize these concepts through the use of explanatory anecdotes
and personalized experience.

Although some of the information presented here is not entirely new to
well-informed Americans, I think this is the first attempt to recount the
entire development of the occupation and to place events in their framework.
The material is, I believe, important in itself as historical documentation.
It has value, too, right now in indicating the general drift of American
policy at home and abroad since the end of the war.

I have brought the book up to July, 1947. It will still be timely if
published in the spring of 1950 inasmuch as the trends described in the book
will still be present, further evolved and more evident.



TABLE OF CONTENTS

INTRODUCTION . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .  11
CHAPTER ONE OPERATION AACHEN: FIRST VICTORY
AND DEFEAT . . . . . . . .  17
CHAPTER Two THE DEMOCRATIC POTENTIAL
A Healthy Resentment . . . . .  29
"The Anti-Fascist Bastards" .   42

  "Enough With The Kzler" .49

CHAPTER THREE   CREW CUTS AND WHITE COLLARS 59
CHAPTER FOURPRELATES IN POLITICS
Germans After All . . . . . . 72
Munich Again, The Prince Bishop
of Bavaria . . . . . . . . . 80

CHAPTER FIVETHE COLLAPSE OF A GREAT ARMY
Breakdown   . . . . . . .   95
The New Order . . . . . . . 111

CHAPTER: SIXTIMETABLE SELL-OUT . . . . .125

CHAPTER SEVEN   IN THE NAME OF CHRIST . . . .   134

CHAPTER EIGHT   DEUTSCHLAND, DEUTSCHLAND

"We're Most Like You. . . . 148
The Unveiling of The Swastika . . 153
 Out Of the Mothballs . . . . . 160

CHAPTER NINETHE OPPOSITION To THE OPPOSITION
The Common People . . . . . 163
   The "Menace ... . . . . . . . 172

CHAPTER TEN DENAZIFICATION BECOMES RENAZIF-ICATION . . . . . . . . . .182

CHAPTER ELEVEN   THE YOUTH
In The Atmosphere Of Despair .  192
Deutschland Erwecke! . . . . .  199

CHAPTER TWELVE  WE CRIED PEACE . . . . . . .204

CHAPTER THIRTEEN 1947, CULMINATION
The Occupation Yields Rotten Fruit 213
Revival Under Our Feet . . . .  227

CHAPTER FOURTEEN SOME CONCLUDING OBSERVATIONS   231

=

INTRODUCTION

"Victory is essential; but victory is not enough for you — or for us. We must
be sure that when you have won victory, you will not have to tell your
children that you fought in vain — that you were not betrayed."

FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT: From adress[sic] to
International Student Assembly, September 3, 1942.

"WHAT can you do with a country like this?"

It was a few days after VE day, May, 1945. A group of us were sitting with
our feet on the porch railing, smoking and watching the Germans promenade
past our Twelfth Army Group Psychological Warfare billets, the Hotel Bristol,
on the main street in Bad Nauheim, the famous, undamaged spa north of
Frankfurt. Every evening, it was the same question. It was rarely followed,
however, by any real discussion. Feeling -was too high for an argument on how
to treat the Germans.

One evening the colonel pushed his chair back angrily and strode into the
lobby, muttering, "God damm' these bastards, I hate these people." The
colonel had lost one of his sons in the war and the other had been seriously
wounded. He had the point of view of the combat men, and most of the fellows
in our det

[CTRL] Where Are The Internment Camps?

1999-08-04 Thread John Szocik

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This is to any and everyone who may have any kind of information on the
construction of these "alleged" internment camps. There are supposed to be
several in Georgia alone! If any of the good people from Georgia who have
actually seen these camps, or knows of anyone who may have worked on the
construction,
of these camps,would please acknowledge their information through this list,
I'd be very grateful.
This is not strictly a request from the people of Georgia, but to all across
the country who may possess any of the afore mentioned information concerning
these camps.
Please tell in complete detail what you know or have seen. The more people
this reaches the better; and the more convincing, the better. That's why it's
very important you give the most comprhensive  account of what you know.
Don't forget to include the exact location of any camps that may be out there.
Thanks very much in advance for all your time and effort in this matter-it's
very important to all who give a damn about their and their families freedom!
JOHN

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[CTRL] FW: SNET: Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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This is in response to the Request of the Original Sender
that the Post be sent "as far and wide as possible.

"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the
highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its
experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
--- Samuel Adams (1780)

"I know nothing"
--Socrates.

Bard

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Please send as far and wide as possible.

Thanks,

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Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!

>From Sightings ( http://www.sightings.com )

What Happened to America's Golden Boy - Pt 4
FBI Document: Bomb Blasted
JFK's Plane
By Sherman Skolnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
7-25-99
Note: This IS the story you're looking for. The Title simply changed



Note - We cannot validate this story. Mr. Skolnick trusts his sources.
We
are posting it as part of our continuing efforts to present ALL sides of

the JFK plane crash tragedy. As with all of our stories, serious
comments
are welcome. In a world in which so little is as it seems, the process
of
inquiry has never been more daunting and treacherous.



Excerpts from FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION PRELIMINARY REPORT ON THE
RECOVERY OF PIPER SARATOGA AIRCRAFT OF JOHN F. KENNEDY, Jr.


1. No declassification until 7/22/2029.


2. This is in deference to the wishes of a senior member of the Kennedy
family.

3. Also in deference to the order of the national government and in
respect to certain foreign intelligence agencies having reciprocal
agreements with the U.S.


4. POTUS order and national security findings attached.


5. The recovered aircraft shows evidence of an explosive device having
been glued or affixed within the tail luggage compartment.


6. Device was apparently actuated by a barometric trigger. Radio signals
not ruled out.

7. Tail of aircraft was dismembered from the plane making it front
heavy.


8. Study of radar shows the plane fell in excess of 6,000 feet per
minute up to radar cutoff.

9. Satellite images supplied by the National Reconnaissance Office
record an outbursting flash from the aircraft just prior to it going
into perpendicular descent.

10. Tail structure was dismembered just prior to descent.


11. Recovery of a piece of luggage from beyond the flight path of the
aircraft correlates with it being hurtled out of the tail luggage
compartment at outburst.


12. Preliminary examination of the aircraft shows residue of an
explosive device the Laboratory identifies as being the type used by
certain foreign intelligence agencies. Refer to POTUS order and
findings.


13. Study of Air Traffic Control and other radio signals shows no Mayday
report from the aircraft, explained by rapidity of descent.


14. Investigation and examination has been strictly compartmentalized.


15. A short, perfunctory examination of the recovered bodies was
completed. Examination revealed that Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was in
third trimester pregnant, the fetus a boy. The four bodies were
transferred to a senior member of the Kennedy family. The Bureau was not
informed whether the bodies were actually cremated. Indirect advisories
report that the bodies may have been shipped in untagged containers to
foreign destinations. Reliable assets are to submit reports.



08-02-1999
THE TRIPP-WIRE
By Sherman H. Skolnick
Producer/Moderator, Public Access Cable TV Program "Broadsides"
Since 1963, Founder/Chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts

A trip-wire is a concealed trigger that when crossed sets in motion some
disaster. Linda Tripp was indicted on Maryland state charges of
wire-tapping.
Here is the cast of characters:

LINDA TRIPP, former covert operator for super-secret Delta Forces, one of
the
few women in such a group. She had been a secretary in the Clinton White
House in or near the office of deputy counsel Vincent W. Foster, Jr., one of
the last persons [other than the assassins] to see him alive. She knows
plenty. Later, she was assigned to the Pentagon and was with Monica Lewinsky
assigned to the Pentagon spokesman, Kenneth Bacon. Linda wire-tapped Monica
both to protect herself and upon further orders of so-called Independen

Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

1999-08-04 Thread Andrew Hennessey

 -Caveat Lector-

where ??? :) can you get some some phone numbers ?

but wasn't the 'american woman' almost archetypically amazon in the eyes of
international popular media culture  the 'mother in ;law' - the hen
pecked husband etc etc - isn't 'girl power' another nail in the coffin of
the cultural move to make the duality of sex redundant -

I saw one ad in UK newspaper - of a cool executive girly and the text read -

'I have the perfect job, the perfect life ... now all I need is the perfect
sperm.'

In the UK, the bias of education and effective lives has swung in the
favour of the female - and more men than ever are becoming redundant as a
result of social education and policies. Illiterate school leavers are
predominately male  in the UK.

The NWO social engineering angle is that the Next Race will be hermaphroditic.

Smash the family unit - individualise the sexual process - take total
control of the reproductive process - implant the results - and bingo -
you've got the perfect well adjusted factory unit.

Andrew

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[CTRL] NWO Thought control - 4

1999-08-04 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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well, how do they get to a list like this ???

1. shutdown -
2. infiltration -
3. zoning - so that everybody gets an edited pastiche of what they think
they should be getting - with authentic looking headers - but with some
troublemaking edited into the text ?? The internet could be zoned off into
virtual mirror sites tightly controlled by editing and deception - and we
may never know who we were really talking to ...

Andrew Hennessey

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[CTRL] Fire Worx

1999-08-04 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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> Publications of the Center for Security Policy
> No. 99-D 89
>
> -
> ---
>
>
>
> DECISION BRIEF
>   4 August 1999
>
>
> China Flies One New, Threatening Missile and Unveils Another:
> What Other Surprises are in Store for an Undefended America?
>
> (Washington, D.C.): The day after China announced the successful
> flight of its newest intercontinental-range ballistic missile --
> the Deng Feng 31 (DF-31), an article in the Chinese
> government-owned Hong Kong newspaper, Wen Wei Po, disclosed the
> existence of another, medium-range missile heretofore unknown to
> be in the PRC's arsenal.(1)
>
> What Missile?
>
> The latter, designated the Deng Feng 25 (DF-25), is said in this
> news item (which must be assumed to be, given its locus, an
> officially authorized announcement) to be capable of delivering a
> 2,000 kilogram warhead over ranges from 1800 to 2500 kilometers,
> depending upon the model. The newspaper notes that the U.S. lacks
> any missile defense capable of intercepting either of these
> "second-generation" Chinese missiles -- or, indeed, three others
> also being developed and/or fielded (the DF-21, DF-41 and the
> Julang 2, a submarine-launched version of the DF-31).
>
> The article gives a short description of each of these missiles.
> That concerning the DF-25 reads as follows:
>
>
>
> The Dongfeng--25 missile has a heavy warhead, which weighs around
> 2,000 kg. It can be loaded with multiple nuclear warheads as well
> as conventional warheads. The Dongfeng--25, which has a shooting
> range of 1,800 km, has outstanding functions as a tactical
> weapon. Dongfeng--31, which was developed later, inherits the
> outstanding functions of the Dongfeng-25 strategic missile.
>
>
>
> If an accurate characterization of the DF-25's capabilities, this
> missile would be capable of holding at risk virtually all of the
> United States' Asian allies and forward deployed forces in the
> region. The fact that this weapon system was not previously known
> to be in the PRC's order of battle is particularly troubling
> insofar as it means that the development and deployment of a
> missile -- which, according to the Chinese government, has served
> as the basis for the country's newest ballistic missile (i.e.,
> the DF-31) -- went undetected by U.S. intelligence. Even more
> sobering is the reality that the Chinese have already simulated
> missile attacks on American bases and allied targets in Asia,
> attacks that might in the future be carried out by an unknown
> quantity of DF-25s.
>
>
>
> The Bottom Line
>
> This article in the PRC newspaper was a clear message to America,
> Japan and Taiwan: You still don't know everything about China's
> capabilities. It must now be asked, what else has been
> successfully concealed from the American intelligence community?
> If this missile, with a one city-busting nuclear warhead or
> multiple smaller ones can slip past the United States, what else
> has done so? Could the PRC have more ICBMs pointed at this
> country now than was previously assessed to be the case? Has
> China successfully hidden its transfer to rogue nations of DF-25
> missiles or other ballistic missile systems?
>
> The implications of this revelation call to mind one of the
> findings of the Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat
> to the United States, chaired by former Defense Secretary Donald
> Rumsfeld, when it ominously concluded: "The newer ballistic
> missile-equipped nations...would be able to inflict major
> destruction on the U.S. within about five years of a decision to
> acquire such a capabilityDuring several of those years, the
> U.S. might not be aware that such a decision had been made."
> Clearly, the idea of waiting any further to begin deployment of
> effective missile defenses for the United States pending
> "warning" of an emerging threat must be seen to be as
> unacceptable as it is irresponsible.
>
> - 30 -
>
> 1. See the Cox Committee report (Vol. 1, p.180).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> ---
>
>
> NOTE: The Center's publications are intended to invigorate and
> enrich the debate on foreign policy and defense issues. The views
> expressed do not necessarily reflect those of all members of the
> Center's Board of Advisors.
>
>   Top of Page© 1988-1999, Center for Security Policy



>From www.security-policy.org/papers/1999/99-D89.html

A<>E<>R
~~~
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said
it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your
own reason and your common sense." --Buddha
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A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled
one is truly vanquished. -Jo

Re: [CTRL] [Alert!] U.S. buildup in Colombia? (fwd)

1999-08-04 Thread Sno0wl

 -Caveat Lector-

Stories like this are utterly confusing to me.

First of all, I had thought that the "drug traffickers" were connected with the
government and/or the military--either directly or through corruption. And supported by
elements in the US government.

Next, I had thought the "guerillas" were connected with people--indigenous, Native, and
otherwise outside the main economy--who were struggling to survive a corrupt regime
that had thrust them into poverty, people who want land and economic reforms.

Then, I had thought that the US had an interest in protecting the drug traffic in
Colombia (which, it seems, has been our policy for decades, in spite of what we say in
public)--unless of course the main traffic has moved elsewhere and Colombia is about
to be dumped as America's main drug source, a la Panama and Noriega.

Confusions like this make stories like this absolutely mind-boggling and impossible to
understand.

Has the Colombian government and military ever been "on the side" of the Colombian
people? At the risk of sounding hopelessly naive, I have thought, for the longest time,
that drugs were the main product and export of Colombia, Juan Valdez notwithstanding.





On 4 Aug 99, , William wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> -- Forwarded message -
>
>  ===
>  Published Sunday, August 1, 1999, in the Miami Herald
>
>  U.S. buildup in Colombia?
>
>  The possibility of U.S. military intervention in Colombia may not be a
>  burning  issue in the United States, but it's grabbing headlines from
>  Mexico to Argentina.
>
>   In Latin America, the press seems virtually certain that a massive U.S.
>  military buildup in Colombia is on the way.
>
>  You can't blame Latin Americans for being suspicious: On July 23, a U.S.
>  Army reconnaissance plane with five U.S. soldiers aboard crashed in a
>  guerrilla-controlled Colombian mountain area, raising new questions about
>  the U.S. military's mission.
>
>  U.S. officials say the Pentagon maintains about 200 military personnel in
>  Colombia, with duties that include training an elite Colombian battalion to
>  combat drug trafficking. The battalion will begin operating in mostly
>  guerrilla-dominated areas later this year.
>
>  Meanwhile, the Clinton administration is calling Colombia's drug
>  trafficking a U.S. national security problem, there is growing alarm over a
>  massive exodus of Colombians to Florida, and U.S. anti-drug czar Barry
>  McCaffrey has called for a $1 billion increase in U.S. anti-narcotics aid,
>  most of it for the Colombian military.
>
>  ``There is no mystery why Latin Americans are apprehensive,'' says Michael
>  Shifter, of the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington think tank. ``Add the
>  latest headlines to the recent NATO intervention in the Balkans and the
>  long history of U.S. intervention in the hemisphere, and their conclusion
>  is logical.''
>
>  During a tour of Colombia, Ecuador and Venezuela last week, McCaffrey was
>  forced to repeat endlessly that Colombia will be no Vietnam. There will be
>  ``zero U.S. intervention in Colombia,'' he stated in Venezuela.
>
>  Should U.S. officials be believed? I asked a half-dozen well-placed current
>  and former U.S. officials why they are so categorical in their denials of a
>  U.S. military buildup in Colombia. Among their answers:
>
>  There is a near consensus in top Clinton administration foreign policy
>  circles that the civil war in Colombia is rooted in ancient political
>  conflicts and cannot be won militarily.
>
>  ``To think that the problem in Colombia could be solved with a military
>  policy would be deceiving ourselves,'' said Arturo Valenzuela, a senior
>  White House National Security Council official overseeing Latin American
>  affairs. ``This is a problem that has been dragging on for 40 years, which
>  has a lot to do with the progressive weakening of the central government.''
>
>  Even if U.S. troops could help Colombia's army win the war militarily, the
>  risks of a Vietnam-style quagmire would far outweigh the rewards. ``There
>  are no Cold War pressures in this case: There is no fear that Colombia is
>  going to be taken over by a hostile superpower,'' says Brian Latell, a
>  former chief CIA analyst for Latin America, who now teaches at Georgetown
>  University.
>
>  There is no support among the U.S. public for U.S. military involvement in
>  Colombia's civil war, which has cost 35,000 lives over the past 10 years,
>  and no one in Washington wants to take the risk of selling the idea.
>
>  A U.S. anti-insurgency effort could backfire and help rally support for the
>  guerrillas. Even if many Colombians would support a U.S. intervention,
>  there would be a strong nationalistic reaction in other Latin American
>  countries.
>
>  U.S. officials say the current policy -- focusing on military anti-drug aid
>  -- will ultimately weaken the rebels as well, because drug-

[CTRL] Passing On

1999-08-04 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

>From TheIndependent (UK)


> MOSCOW CHIEF PREPARES BID FOR KREMLIN
>
>
> BORIS YELTSIN'S dream of determining his successor as Russia's
> president was badly dented yesterday with the birth of a
> formidable political coalition intent on winning control of
> parliament and laying the ground for an attempt on the Kremlin
> itself.
>
> It is dominated by Yuri Luzhkov, one of Russia's most ruthless
> and successful politicians, who is viewed with suspicion by Mr
> Yeltsin's inner circle and with open distaste within the depleted
> ranks of Russia's genuine liberals.
>
> Yesterday, Mr Luzhkov, 62 and Mayor of Moscow, took a further
> step along the path to power, forging an alliance between his
> political movement, Fatherland, and All Russia, a group
> comprising highly influential regional leaders.
>
> The alliance's sights will be trained on establishing a strong
> power base in parliament in the December elections. But its
> ultimate goal will be to win control of the Kremlin when Mr
> Yeltsin's final term ends next year.
>
> Its credentials are impressive. The mayor is a brilliant
> self-publicist who has used his office to build a city-run
> business and media empire and who, as head of Russia's capital,
> can whistle up plenty of campaign cash.
>
> He was returned as mayor in 1996 with a vote of about 90 per
> cent, after campaigning alongside Mr Yeltsin - with whom he has
> since fallen out. But his power base is Moscow; building support
> in the provinces has proved harder. The regional leaders, a
> powerful bloc who include such heavyweights as Mintimer Shaimiyev
> - President of the semi-autonomous Tatarstan - will ease that
> task.
>
> "There is no other political force, if we think about it," Mr
> Shaimiyev said."Somebody has to assume the responsibility now."
>
> Exactly who that somebody will be is certain to be a matter of
> intense debate in Moscow's political circles. In a further jab at
> the Kremlin, Mr Luzhkov said he intended to recruit the former
> prime minister Yevgeny Primakov, who was sacked by Mr Yeltsin in
> May after nine months in office in which he became the country's
> most trusted politician.
>
> Mr Primakov could lead the coalition's list of candidates for
> parliament, the mayor said. A line-up including the mayor and Mr
> Primakov, 69, would stand a strong chance of being overall
> victors in December's elections, setting the scene for an attempt
> on the Kremlin by Mr Primakov.
>
> But Mr Luzhkov undoubtedly has his own presidential ambitions.
> These are eyed unhappily by his foes. Free market economists
> dislike his interventionism; Western policymakers look
> suspiciously at his nationalist streak; liberals fret over his
> patchy human rights record; and the corrupt among Russia's
> wealthy elite do not relish his threat to review the results of
> the privatisation programme. Nor will the Communists welcome the
> arrival of a Luzhkov-led coalition that could bite deep into
> their vote.
>
> As the battle lines begin to form, the Kremlin's inner circle is
> showing every sign of preparing for an intense struggle.
> Newspaper editors from across the spectrum publicly complained to
> Mr Yeltsin this week that senior officials were subjecting them
> to improper pressure.
>
> Yesterday, there was further evidence of the Kremlin election
> machine swinging into action. Mr Yeltsin's chief-of-staff,
> Alexander Voloshin, told Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper Mr
> Luzhkov "is not the best alternative for the country". If he was
> elected, "we can expect plenty of unpleasant surprises", he
> added.


On a more serious note:

Don't know the Aussie term(s) for these things but I'd say there
are now "No worries, mate ..."

> CROCODILE DUNDEE FIGURE DEAD
>
>
> AN AUSTRALIAN bushman who inspired the 1986 hit movie Crocodile
> Dundee has been killed in a shootout with police in the outback.
> Police said Rodney Ansell shot and killed a policeman by a road
> block south of Darwin, capital of the Northern Territory, before
> being shot dead.


A<>E<>R
~~~
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new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
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it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your
own reason and your common sense." --Buddha
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one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller,
   German Writer (1759-1805)
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"Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart
information and ideas through any media and regardless
of fron

Re: [CTRL] Sexual coercion by young women growing ?

1999-08-04 Thread William Shannon

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In a message dated 8/3/99 11:48:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

<<
  College men nearly as likely as women to report
  they are victims of unwanted sexual coercion

  The stereotypical picture of men as the perpetrators and women as
  the victims of acquaintance rape and other forms of unwanted sexual
  contact appears to be slightly out of focus >>



Oh SURE! Unless the broad is as ugly as a horse OR the guy is a
queen, this is ABSURD!!  Did Ms. Schalfly put this BS out???


More than a little skeptical,
Bill.

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[CTRL] Drought

1999-08-04 Thread Sno0wl

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> Drought Is Worst Since Depression." Washington Post, 2 Aug 99, A1, A7.
> "Temperatures Drop Across the Midwest." Washington Times, 2 Aug 99, A6.
>  In the mid-Atlantic and Northeast U.S. the ground is drier than it
>  has been since the Great Depression according to Agriculture
>  Secretary Dan Glickman.  While just an inconvenience to some, the
>  drought has devastated farmers and acres of corn and soybeans.  182
>  people have died from the sweltering temperatures in the northeast
>  half of the United States, 30 in Chicago.  A statewide emergency was
>  declared for Maryland last week and 11 localities in Virginia have
>  asked for federal disaster assistance.  The East Coast is also
>  suffering from poor air quality, worsened by the heat and drought.
>  New York's smog conditions are the worst they have been in a decade.
>  With no relief in sight, water restrictions have been enforced in
>  several areas.  Food prices are not expected to increase
>  significantly.
>
I heard some commentator on the evenings news (NBC) talking about the drought and
saying that these conditions would go on "for decades." (Sorry, didn't catch the name
or rank or serial number).

If the government is not tampering with the weather, how can they possibly know that?


sno0wl

sno0wl

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[CTRL] Po', Po' Pitiful Me ... {ooops} Us

1999-08-04 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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Revealing cartoon about the recent Bill Jeffy & Hillie childhood
experiences at:

http://www.arizonarepublic.com/opinions/benson/0803benson.shtml

AND, And, and, from the BostonHerald


> Hill came to Bill's emotional rescue
> by Don Feder
>
> Wednesday, August 4, 1999
>
>
>
>
>
> Let's see if I've got this straight: According to the first
> facilitator, the reason her husband (the fornicator-in-chief)
> acts like a jackrabbit during mating season is because his mother
> and granny didn't get along?
>
> Yes, the president was ``scarred'' by childhood abuse, Hillary
> Clinton discloses - not sexual abuse or physical abuse, but the
> psychological trauma of being subjected to feuding females.
>
>
>
> At age 4, the future fraternity pledge was cared for by his
> grandmother while his mother studied nursing. Reportedly, the
> women fought over who would raise him.
>
>
>
> ``A boy being in the middle of a conflict between two women is
> the worst possible situation,'' Sigmund Rodham theorized.
> ``There's always a desire to please each one.''
>
>
>
> Is the first therapist telling us that an obsessive need to
> gratify women led her hubby to never miss an opportunity to get a
> ``little strange''; as governor of Arkansas, use his state
> trooper bodyguards as procurers; commit rape in a Little Rock
> hotel room 21 years ago (if Juanita Broaddrick is to be
> believed); and put the moves on a federal employee while he
> occupied the highest office in the land?
>
>
>
> That's a lot of mileage from a little emotional trauma.
>
>
>
> The first feminist is also slandering Virginia Clinton (who isn't
> here to defend herself) and other women, by falling back on the
> oldest excuse in the book: Mommy made him do it. Simone De
> Beauvoir must be spinning in her grave.
>
>
>
> Even the most shameless administration in history was embarrassed
> by Hillary's assertion. White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart
> admitted that while his boss wasn't an abuse victim, he did have
> ``difficult issues'' growing up. (Unlike the rest of us.)
>
>
>
> Some see self-interest in Hillary's revelation to Talk magazine.
> Bill's philandering - and the fact that she provided cover for
> him through all of his scandals - could come back to haunt her.
> Eventually, voters may come to resent her for helping to keep a
> thoroughly corrupt man in the presidency.
>
>
>
> The lady now offers an alternate theory to the one that goes: She
> did it because she lusts for power the way he lusts. No, Mrs.
> Clinton is saying, she stood by her man because she knew he
> couldn't help himself - the company of women made him the lecher
> that we know and she claims to love.
>
>
>
> But then, how explain the information in the just-published book
> ``Bill and Hillary, The Marriage''? According to author
> Christopher Andersen, when Mrs. Clinton learned of one
> infidelity, the resident White House shrink beaned her errant boy
> with an ashtray.
>
>
>
> When the president confessed his involvement with Monica Lewinsky
> to Hillary, Andersen relates, she slapped him in the face hard
> enough to leave a red mark visible to Secret Service agents when
> he left the room. Was the first lady blaming the victim? Tell me
> it ain't so!
>
>
>
> When Mrs. Clinton's abuse excuse is derided to death, here are a
> few other victimization theories she can advance.
>
>
>
> • The fat, awkward high-school kid syndrome. As an adolescent
> tub, Clinton suffered rejection trauma - girls with class
> wouldn't date him. Now he's compensating for that hurt by chasing
> skirt.
>
>
>
> • The Vietnam draft-dodger anxiety syndrome. Clinton was
> traumatized not by service in Southeast Asia, but by the prospect
> of being called on to fight. All of the tension built up when he
> was studying at Oxford and lying to the commander of the
> University of Arkansas ROTC program found release in a 30-year
> sexual binge.
>
>
>
> • The Camelot-envy syndrome. Ever since he shook hands with JFK
> in 1963, Clinton has had a New Frontier obsession. Our poor,
> misguided president was subconsciously imitating his fallen idol.
> Since he couldn't touch John F. Kennedy's rhetoric or charisma,
> he tried to outdo him in the one area where he may have had the
> edge.
>
>
>
> Hillary will certainly need another rationale. Again, according
> to Andersen's book, when Bill confessed his liaison with Monica,
> Hillary shrieked at him: ``You stupid, stupid bastard. My God,
> Bill, how could you risk everything for that?''
>
>
>
> Not, ``Bill, how could you betray me?'' Not: ``Bill, I understand
> that this is merely a manifestation of the childhood abuse you
> suffered. I forgive you.'' But, You moron, you risked
> ``everything'' (the co-presidency, our joint power) because you
> can't keep it zipped.
>
>
>
> In Hillary Rodham Clinton, we may have found someone who sinks
> below Washington's abysmal standards. She may actually be too
> loathsome to serve in the Senate.


A<>E<>R
~

[CTRL] Eaves Droppings

1999-08-04 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

 -Caveat Lector-

> Wednesday, August 4, 1999
>
>
> PERSPECTIVE ON WORLD AFFAIRS
> Europe Blows Whistle on That Great Eavesdropper, the NSA
> The top secret agency is spying for the U.S. in ways
> that other nations find increasingly alarming and intrusive. By
> SIMON DAVIES
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> ADVERTISEMENT
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.newhomenetwork.com/losangeles>
> urope is discretely gearing up for one of the most
> interesting legal battles in its history. At stake is the future
> of the world's most secretive intelligence organization,
> America's National Security Agency.  The NSA is in the
> business of eavesdropping on the world's communications networks
> for the benefit of the United States. In doing so, it has built a
> vast spying operation that reaches into the telephone systems of
> nearly every country. Its operations are so secret that this
> activity, outside the U.S., occurs without any democratic
> oversight and without any legal basis.  Over the past year,
> members of the European Parliament have learned, to their
> astonishment, that the NSA, in collusion with the British
> government, has created the means to intercept almost every fax,
> e-mail and telephone call within the European Union. The
> revelation has irritated governments throughout Europe,
> culminating in a current Italian judicial inquiry into the
> legality of the NSA's activity.  Sketchy details of the NSA's
> spying in Europe had been common currency here for decades but
> had never been formally acknowledged. Attempts by British MPs had
> for decades been ignored.  The issue has erupted now because
> of two recent European Parliament studies that confirm the
> existence in Britain of a network of communications intelligence
> bases operated by the NSA. The publication last year of the first
> report, "An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control,"
> confirmed for the first time that the NSA had established a
> surveillance capacity over the entire European communications
> network. It also described a grid of supercomputers, known as
> Echelon, capable of scanning vast areas of the communications
> spectrum to detect keywords.  Of particular interest to
> Parliament was the report's assertion that the NSA was beefing up
> its commercial espionage activities. Its claim is that the NSA
> has been routinely intercepting sensitive traffic relating to
> bids, takeovers, mergers, investments and tender offers, all for
> U.S. economic benefit.  Questions have been raised by
> parliamentarians in Germany, Norway, Denmark, Holland and Sweden.
> Then, in September, the plenary session of the European
> Parliament took the unprecedented step of openly debating the
> activities of the NSA. In a consensus resolution, the Parliament
> fired a shot across the bow of the spooks by demanding more
> openness and accountability.  Any thoughts that these matters
> were simply paranoid musings by fans of "The X-Files" were
> scuttled in June when the second report, "Interception
> Capabilities 2000," set out the technical specifications of the
> interception system. The report revealed details of a secret plan
> to create a "seamless" web of telecommunications surveillance
> across all national boundaries. The strategy was advised by
> national security agencies and by the FBI, which instigated with
> Brussels a top-secret planning organization called the
> International Law Enforcement Telecommunications Seminar. In
> time, two vast systems--one designed for national security and
> one for law enforcement--would merge and, in the process, would
> cripple national control over surveillance activities.  The
> scandal has found its way to Washington. The House Permanent
> Select Committee on Intelligence has ordered the NSA to hand over
> documents relating to Echelon. The NSA has for the first time in
> the committee's history refused, claiming attorney-client
> privilege.  The stand-off may well end the NSA's privileged
> position. Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.), worried by the potential breach
> of constitutional privacy rights, has introduced an amendment to
> the fiscal 2000 Intelligence Authorization Act requiring the
> directors of the CIA and the NSA and Atty. Gen. Janet Reno to
> submit a report outlining the legal standards being employed
> within project Echelon in order to safeguard the privacy of
> American citizens.  The NSA's silence has fueled the present
> inquiry by the Rome judiciary. The head of the inquiry, Deputy
> Dist. Atty. Vittorio De Cesare, intends to determine the extent
> to which the activities of the NSA may breach Italian law.
>  Italy's privacy watchdog, Stefano Rodota, has also expressed
> his concern, and recently told local media, "The U.S. government
> [has] not replied to the requests for clarifications made
> explicitly by the European Parliament." Rodota has motivated his
> fellow privacy commissioners throughout Europe to formally
> investigate the Echelon system

[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: Confirmation: $30 million of White United Nations VehiclesStockpiling in Texas]

1999-08-04 Thread Nicola Molloy

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> ->  SNETNEWS  Mailing List
>
> (sent to USCMike1's 31,519+ readers -Please repost to your own mailing lists
> - Thanks)
>
> Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:
>
> Please read the following post that for the fiftieth time confirms that
> Clinton has been bringing in foreign troops to be commanded under United
> Nations control to begin the takeover of our once free and sovereign United
> States of America.
>
> Literally, there are 1000s of foreign and U.N. vehicles to be used for
> the express purpose of warfare against WE the People.  Why else would they be
> here?  As you read the following post keep in mind that these brand new
> vehicles are being shipped in to all over the USA.
>
> In fact, last week, I was driving south on Interstate 405 (a parallel
> alternate to I-5) from the San Fernando Valley (suburb of Los Angeles with 3
> million population) toward LAX (Los Angeles International Airport) or beyond
> to like San Diego, I saw a brand spanking new 50 to 60 foot tractor-trailor
> rig painted sparkling white with absolutely NO indentification of ANY type,
> not even the little numbers you normally see painted in the corners.  No
> words, names, or identifying companies or agencies.
>
>It was fully loaded as you can tell by the way the trailer does not bounce
> or jiggle or move vertically as the shock absorbers and springs bounce and
> chatter underneath and by the shape of the tires burgeoning upon the surface
> of the road.
>
> Finally I saw a white federal government license plate with the words:
> "U.S. Airforce" embossed on it.  Who knows what its payload and cargo was???
> Perhaps barrels of chemical or biological agents to re-fill the Air Force
> jets spraying con-chem-bio trails over the population?  Or maybe more
> magnetic flux and Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) detection instrumentation?
>  Maybe deadly microwave weapons to blowout citizens' hearts and brains for
> more stangely suspect "natural" deaths and Arkan-cides?
>
> The post talks about educated guesses and/or rumors (where there is smoke
> there is usually fire) about prisoner shackles being welded onto the inside
> walls of many of the white truck trailers - now who do you suppose those
> could be intented for??  in the United States of America??
>
>   Please read the post and decide for yourselves.
>
> Only five months remaining until Y2K..  Happy August 1, 1999.
>
> USCMike1
>
> http://www.alltexas.net/news/bastrop.html
>
> BASTROP FEDERAL PEN HOUSES
> WHITE VEHICLES
> .BUT FOR WHAT?
>
> Photo's taken from the air. Ground Photos...  coming Monday
>
> Bastrop.. AllTexas News  Nestled behind a hillside, just out of sight from
> busy Highway 95 in Bastrop County, Texas, lies a growing fleet of nearly a
> thousand
> showroom-new SUVs, 4WD pickups, suburbans and vans.  These vehicles are
> not overflow storage for an overstocked dealer.  This fleet is owned by the
> federal government.
>
> All the vehicles are U.N. White.
>
> Rumors have been floating in the area for months about a fleet of suspicious
> vehicles being outfitted with prisoner cages, shackles and insignia such as
> “U.S. Police Force” and the U.N. roundel.  None of the vehicles observed in
> the storage area appeared to have any markings at all other than window
> stickers with equipment data.
>
> However, prison officials did confirm that the SUVs and vans were in fact
> being outfitted with prisoner cages and shackles.  When pressed for
> information on the intended users of these vehicles, a prison spokesman said
> they were intended for the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
>
> However, vehicles assigned to the INS are predominantly painted green and
> those assigned to the Border Patrol are usually the same.  The suitability of
> a high-visibility color such as white for either agency is in question.
> Large, white vehicles can be seen approaching from miles away.
>
> This $30 million fleet of unused government vehicles has been steadily
> growing, but has not been deployed.  It seems the vehicles keep coming in,
> but none go out to user agencies.  This field-full of top-of-the-line utility
> vehicles, bought with taxpayer dollars, is sitting idle, soaking up Texas
> sun.
>
> The site is located a few miles North of the city of Bastrop on U.S. Prison
> property.  The high-security prison itself takes up the Southern part of the
> property.  The area where the vehicles reside is fenced-off from the public
> road with no more precaution than a farmer might use to keep his cattle from
> straying.  The unguarded entrance warns that the area is U.S. Prison property
> and trespassing is prohibited.  Another
> sign strangley warns of “Poison Gas.”
>
> http://www.alltexas.net/news/bastrop.html
>
> Sons of Liberty Militia
> Tim Stine
> 312 S. Wyomissing Ave.
> Shillington, Pa.
> 19607 U.S.A.   1-610-775-0497
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> What is a Militia ?

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment

1999-08-04 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-08-04 10:46:37 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>This is a satire from Onion. It is not a true story.

That post was a forward from Robalini, sans explanation -- but my apologies
anyway.

My compliments to the satirists who concocted this one.  It's damned clever
and right on the cutting edge of frightening feasibility.  "Profiling" is not
stopping where it's at.

With the Rehnquist court's behavior and the current mood of lawmakers in this
country, it's harder to distinguish between real rulings and bitingly
sardonic black humor.  One of these days readers will think "Oh sure,
har-har, no way!" but the "joke" will be on us ...

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Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Tuesday #2]

1999-08-04 Thread Robert Tatman

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"ric carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> : What's your favorite religious fiction? Are all religious texts
fictional?
> Which fiction is most literate: Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Adventist,
> Mormon, Sufi, Shi'ite, Sunni, Jewish [Orthodox/Conservative/Liberal],
Hindu,
> Buddhist [Greater/Lesser/Zen], Hindu, Pagan, NewAge, Kerala, Subgenius?
Why?
>
Well, the Book of Mormon was plagiarized directly from the Christian
historical fantasies of an Ohio minister, so that's one scripture that really
*is* fiction. Aside from that, the two most enjoyable works of what might be
called religious fiction I know are probably Heinlein's *Stranger in a Strange
Land* (which at last count had inspired three or four separate new religions)
and, of course, Robert Anton Wilson's *Illuminatus!*... Won't go so far as to
say that the *Principia Discordia* is fiction, of course, but then I've never
been entirely sure just *what* it is fnord.

Hail Eris,

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[CTRL] Revised Clinton body count

1999-08-04 Thread Edward Britton

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[NOTE: This rather extensive list of names and charges are forwarded
directly via Ether Zone Online (http://etherzone.com). This is an
admittedly conservative site. Given this qualification, the reader is
encouraged to take the information for what it's worth. I OPENLY encourage
all who read this information to refute the facts/details as presented by
the original author. I will post such refutations in like manner.]

~~Begin Forward
Here is the latest body count that we have. All of these people have been
connected with the Clintons in some form or another. We have not included
any deaths that could not be verified or connected to the Clintons. All
deaths are listed chronologically by date. This list is
current and accurate to the best of our knowledge as of January 13, 1999.

Susan Coleman: Rumors were circulating in Arkansas of an affair with Bill
Clinton. She was found dead with a gunshot wound to the head at 7 1/2
months pregnant. Death was an apparent suicide.

Larry Guerrin: Was killed in February 1987 while investigating the INSLAW
case.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry: Initial cause of death was reported to be the
result of falling asleep on a railroad track in Arkansas on August 23,
1987. This ruling was reported by the State medical examiner Fahmy Malak.
Later it was determined that Kevin died from a crushed skull prior to being
placed on the tracks. Don had been stabbed in the back. Rumors indicate
that they might have stumbled upon a Mena drug operation.

Keith Coney: Keith had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. Died in a
motorcycle accident in July 1988 with unconfirmed reports of a high speed
car chase.

Keith McKaskle: McKaskle has information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He was
stabbed to death in November 1988.

Gregory Collins: Greg had information on the Ives/Henry deaths. He died
from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes: He had information on the deaths of Ives, Henry & McKaskle.
His burned body was found in a trash dump in April 1989. He died of a
gunshot wound to the head and there was some body mutilation, leading to
the probably speculation that he was tortured prior to being killed.

James Milam: Milam had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He was
decapitated. The state Medical examiner, Fahmy Malak, initially ruled death
due to natural causes.

Richard Winters: Winters was a suspect in the deaths of Ives & Henry. He
was killed in a "robbery" in July 1989 which was subsequently proven to be
a setup.

Jordan Kettleson: Kettleson had information on the Ives & Henry deaths. He
was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup in June 1990.

Alan Standorf: An employee of the National Security Agency in electronic
intelligence. Standorf was a source of information for Danny Casalaro who
was investigating INSLAW, BCCI, etc. Standorf's body was found in the
backseat of a car at Washington National Airport on Jan 31, 1991.

Dennis Eisman: An attorney with information on INSLAW. Eisman was found
shot to death on April 5, 1991.

Danny Casalaro: Danny was a free-lance reporter and writer who as
investigating the "October Surprise", INSLAW and BCCI. Danny was found dead
in a bathtub in a Sheraton Hotel room in Martinsburg, Virginia. Danny was
staying at the hotel while keeping appointments in the DC area pertinent to
his investigation. He was found with his wrists slashed. At least one, and
possibly both of his wrists were cut 10 times. All of his research
materials were missing and have never been recovered.

Victor Raiser: The National Finance Co-Chair for "Clinton for President."
He died in a airplane crash on July 30, 1992.

R. Montgomery Raiser: Also involved in the Clinton presidential campaign.
He died in the same plane crash as Victor.

Paul Tully: Tulley was on the Democratic National Committee. He was found
dead of unknown causes in his hotel room on September 24, 1992. No autopsy
was ever allowed.

Ian Spiro: Spiro had supporting documentation for grand jury proceedings on
the INSLAW case. His wife and 3 children were found murdered on November 1,
1992 in their home. They all died of gunshot wounds to the head. Ian's body
was found several days later in a parked car in the Borego Desert. Cause of
death? The ingestion of cyanide. FBI report
indicated that Ian had murdered his family and then committed suicide.

Paula Gober: A Clinton speech writer. She died in a car accident on
December 9, 1992 with no known witnesses.

Jim Wilhite: Wilhite was an associate of Mack McClarty's former firm.
Wilhite died in a skiing accident on December 21, 1992. He also had
extensive ties to Clinton with whom he visited by telephone just hours
before his death.

Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Todd McKeahan & Conway LeBleu:   Died
Feburary 2, 1993 by gunfire at Waco. All four were examined by a
pathologist and died from identical wounds to the left temple. All four had
been body guards for Bill Clinton, three while campaigning for 

Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Fwd: Some Clinton jokes]

1999-08-04 Thread Robert Tatman

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William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
Chrysler Corporation is adding a new car to its line to honor Bill
   Clinton. The Dodge Draft will begin production in Canada this year.<<

Well now, seems to me that this could equally well apply to the Fearsome
Threesome who all traded on their daddies' names to get into the National
Guard or the Reserve during the Vietnam war, viz., Messrs. G.W. Bush, J.D.
Quayle, and S. Forbes...

:^/

Bob



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Re: [CTRL] [[SC] Skeptic News - Tuesday #1]

1999-08-04 Thread Robert Tatman

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"ric carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>   "I am one with the hive-mind / The hive-mind is one with me / I am he as
>you are she as you are me / We're one big happy family / My thoughts are
>your thoughts are our thoughts / We think it all through and through /
>My hope are her hopes are their hopes / I hope for what's best for you"
>THE HIVE-MIND: http://www.sonic.net/~ric/music/mysongs4a.htm#hive
>
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.sonic.net/~ric <=== rebuilding site! *

Ever read Frank Herbert's *Hellstrom's Hive*? That one had me looking twice at
people in the street for months afterwards...

Bob

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[CTRL] klintoon Body Count [*NEW*]a must 4 List newbies

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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Here is the latest body count that we have.  All of these people have been
connected with the Clintons in some form or another.  We have not included
any deaths that could not be verified or connected to the Clintons.  All
deaths are listed chronologically by date.  This list is current and
accurate to the best of our knowledge as of January 13, 1999.
http://www.genniferflowers.com/bodycount.htm


The Clinton Body Count


Death, Corruption and Misadventure within the Clinton Administration



Gennifer Flowers has long been aware of the frightening list of the deceased
associated with Bill Clinton.  She is also aware of the alarming reality
that this "Death List" appears to continually grow.  This awareness was the
primary factor which motivated Gennifer to tape record her telephone
conversations with Bill Clinton.  After her apartment had been secretly
entered, ransacked and violated by an unwelcome intruder who mysteriously
had acquired an entry key to her residence, and her own mother had received
threatening telephone calls, Gennifer knew she had to do something to
protect herself and her family.  She needed something tangible to offer as
evidence should any occasion ever call for proof of her story.  Some may
have criticised her actions as unethical, however, death by misadventure is
certainly unethical.  Gennifer had no desire or intent to become another
name on a growing death list, tallying the bodies of those individuals
unfortunate enough to become victims of the Clinton power structure.

President Clinton's administration has been soiled with filth and corruption
throughout his political career.  President Clinton, his wife Hillary
Clinton, and various associates, are believed by many people all over the
world to be criminals.  The evidence brought forth is poignant and dispels
the likelihood of coincidence in reference to mysterious death scenarios
connected to Bill Clinton.

The incredible number of deaths which have occurred under questionable
circumstances, by people associated with the Clintons has come to be called
the "Clinton Body Count".



This chronicle of the "Clinton Body Count" is provided through the efforts
of
Ether Zone Online :



Here is the latest body count that we have.  All of these people have been
connected with the Clintons in some form or another.  We have not included
any deaths that could not be verified or connected to the Clintons.  All
deaths are listed chronologically by date.  This list is current and
accurate to the best of our knowledge as of January 13, 1999.

Susan Coleman:  Rumors were circulating in Arkansas of an affair with Bill
Clinton.  She was found dead with a gunshot wound to the head at 7 1/2
months pregnant.  Death was an apparent suicide.

Larry Guerrin:  Was killed in February 1987 while investigating the INSLAW
case.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry:  Initial cause of death was reported to be the
result of falling asleep on a railroad track in Arkansas on August 23, 1987.
This ruling was reported by the State medical examiner Fahmy Malak.  Later
it was determined that Kevin died from a crushed skull prior to being placed
on the tracks.  Don had been stabbed in the back.  Rumors indicate that they
might have stumbled upon a Mena drug operation.

Keith Coney:  Keith had information on the Ives/Henry deaths.  Died in a
motorcycle accident in July 1988 with unconfirmed reports of a high speed
car chase.

Keith McKaskle:  McKaskle had information on the Ives/Henry deaths.  He was
stabbed to death in November 1988.

Gregory Collins:  Greg had information on the Ives/Henry deaths.  He died
from a gunshot wound to the face in January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes:  He had information on the deaths of Ives, Henry & McKaskle.
His burned body was found in a trash dump in April 1989.  He died of a
gunshot wound to the head and there was some body mutilation, leading to the
probably speculation that he was tortured prior to being killed.

James Milam:  Milam had information on the Ives & Henry deaths.  He was
decapitated.  The state Medical examiner, Fahmy Malak, initially ruled death
due to natural causes.

Richard Winters:  Winters was a suspect in the deaths of Ives & Henry.  He
was killed in a "robbery" in July 1989 which was subsequently proven to be a
setup.

Jordan Kettleson:  Kettleson had information on the Ives & Henry deaths.  He
was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup in June 1990.

Alan Standorf:  An employee of the National Security Agency in electronic
intelligence.  Standorf was a source of information for Danny Casalaro who
was invest

[CTRL] Recommended Reading

1999-08-04 Thread Robert Tatman

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I quite literally could not put this one down--stayed up reading well past
midnight last night to finish it. It is chilling and engrossing, and leaves
you wondering just what the hell really is going on under our feet... I
STRONGLY recommend this book...but don't plan on anything except reading for
about 48 hours after you buy it!
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The Descent
by Jeff Long
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Other Editions: Audio Cassette (Abridged)

Amazon.com Sales Rank: 457
Avg. Customer Review: [5 stars]
Number of Reviews: 19
Reviews
Amazon.com
In a high Himalayan cave, among the death pits of Bosnia, in a newly excavated
Java temple, Long's characters find out to their terror that
humanity is not alone--that, as we have always really known, horned and
vicious humanoids lurk in vast caverns beneath our feet. This
audacious remaking of the old hollow-earth plot takes us, in no short order,
to the new world regime that follows the genocidal harrowing
of Hell by heavily armed, high-tech American forces. An ambitious tycoon sends
an expedition of scientists, including a beautiful nun
linguist and a hideously tattooed commando former prisoner of Hell, ever
deeper into the unknown, among surviving, savage, horned tribes
and the vast citadels of the civilizations that fell beneath the earth before
ours arose. A conspiracy of scholars pursues the identity of the
being known as Satan, coming up with unpalatable truths about the origins of
human culture and the identity of the Turin Shroud, and are
picked off one by bloody one. Long rehabilitates, madly, the novel of
adventures among lost peoples--occasional clumsiness and promises
of paranoid revelations on which he cannot entirely deliver fail to diminish
the real achievement here; this feels like a story we have always
known and dreaded. --Roz Kaveney, Amazon.co.uk

Publishers Weekly, 5/24/99
...a dizzying synthesis of supernatural horror, lost-race fantasy and military
SF...Long's novel brims with energy, ideas and excitement.

Library Journal, 5/1/99
...invites comparison to Dante -- but his style is more reminiscent of early
Stephen King, when characters still mattered...one of those
compelling books that is difficult to finish but even more difficult to put
down.

Booklist, 3/15/99
It's been a long time since an adventure novel this original, this
well-developed, this genuinely exciting, came along ... Recommend it
wholeheartedly to adventure-novel fans as well as anyone who likes something
different...this one could become a well-deserved best-seller.


Customer Comments
Average Customer Review: [5 stars]  Number of Reviews: 19

A reader from USA , August 2, 1999
Engrossing and Original!
This book was so engrossing that I could literally not put it down. It was
similar to Stephen King's the Stand in that it began by randomly
focusing on different characters who all come into contact with the
underground beings, but eventually their lives all become connected. It
 had romantic moments, really scary moments and really chilling moments. And
the scientists' search for the existence and identity of Satan
also make it a great thriller.

bookman([EMAIL PROTECTED] from usa , August 2, 1999
Gave me nightmares!
Where is all the reviews? This is one of the best ever! Gave me nightmares and
I NEVER have nightmares.GET THIS BOOK! YOU WILL THANK ME!

A reader from Portland, Maine , August 1, 1999
It's not what you think
In Jeff Long's book you think you're going down an oft-traveled path until you
suddenly realize the book has taken a scary turn and plunged
you into a universe that could only exist in a fertile imagination. Eerie,
creepy, and utimately very fulfilling.

A reader from Arizona, USA , July 31, 1999
Intriguing!
I'm only through the first few chapters, but I can't tell you enough how great
this book is. Read this one and you won't regret it. Well
written and researched, interesting, and creepy.

Bookman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Cincinnati Ohio , July 31, 1999
OH MY GOD GET THIS BOOK! UNBELIEVABLE!
Jeff Long where have you been? Your book should revive the soft horror and
fantasy market of the '90's! Just Great! I urge ANYONE TO
GET AHOLD OF THIS ONE! You WON't Be Disappointed! Trust me! GET IT AND SHIVER
THROUGH THE SUMMER!

A reader from Everett, WA , July 31, 1999
Wow! Hooked from page one!
Sprinkle bits of The Exorcist with Jules Verne's Journey To The Center of the
Earth and you have The Descent. Couldn't put it down! If
Hollywood doesn't make this into a movie, there is no hope for Hollywood!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Seattle, WA , July 30, 1999
Interesting conception, good plot, terrible writing
The basic premise of the novel is quit

[CTRL] Fwd: Goodbye Sovereign Switzerland--US NEXT?!

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan





8.4.99
Recipients--
Here's what just happened to Switzerland. I think it's safe to say that
the forces behind this tremendous and subversive attack on the very
foundations of the Swiss nation, it's Constitution--the very heart and
soul of which has been torn out and crushed; have the United States next
on their list and very firmly in their sights.

One of the first steps in this demolishment of Swiss political system by
New World Order head honchos was severing the previously inviolable tie
between Swiss currency and *G*O*L*D*. Well sheesh, we already DID that
part over 35 years ago!

Massive disinformation campaigns which caused serious headspinning and
arm twisting of the Swiss electorate resulted, most unfortunately, in
them actually voting to demolish to most important underpinnings of
their entire socio-political structure.

Swiss sovereignty, their much-vaunted "neutrality", and OF COURSE there
constitutionally MANDATED people's militia are now but dust bin the wind.

This should serve as a MOST SERIOUS warning regarding the New World
Order's plans for the future of OUR constitutional republic… such as it
is or ever was.

Find out for yourself… in the article below. And DON'T say it "can't
happen here." It CAN!

John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.


New American

Vol. 15, No.15, July 19, 1999

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/07-19-99/vo15no15_swiss.htm

Goodbye Sovereign Switzerland
by Jane H. Ingraham

With scarcely a murmur of dissent, the seemingly impossible was
accomplished. Lacking understanding, the Swiss people voted this spring
to end the unique soundness of their currency as well as their country's
financial power and independence. Oblivious to the consequences of
abandoning the Swiss franc's tie to gold, the people of Switzerland --
the world's only direct democracy -- approved a new constitution that
abolishes the traditional gold convertibility that for generations made
the Swiss franc literally "as good as gold."

This historic decision is the culmination of an orchestrated
international assault to wipe out the last remaining obstacle to an
inflatable global paper currency, long a goal of American and European
Insiders of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral
Commission. With good reason, the Insiders have loathed the presence on
the international financial market of this stable currency backed by a
precious metal, which puts a brake on inflation and arbitrary
manipulation. Since 1933, when FDR stripped Americans of their gold
under false pretenses, the Insider game has been central bank control of
printing-press money and credit, expanding and contracting the supply to
suit their own agenda, creating booms and busts cleverly called
"business cycles." Having reduced the purchasing power of the U.S.
dollar to pennies over the past 60 years, the Insiders were ready to
move into the final global phase.

Plan of Attack

As a matter of necessity, the Swiss franc's disciplinary tie to gold had
to be abolished. But how? Franklin Roosevelt did it by executive order.
But this would not have been allowed in Switzerland with its weak
central government and strong tradition of independence in the cantons.
What it boiled down to was that the Swiss people would have to be made
to do it to themselves. Masters at psychological and semantic warfare,
the Insider cabal concocted a contemptible smokescreen, using the
suffering of the Jewish people as bait.

The New York Times and the Washington Post launched an avalanche of
shockingly vituperative accusations against the highly respected Swiss
banking industry. The charge: Swiss banks still held gold deposited by
Jews who became victims of the Holocaust. Spearheaded by the fabulously
wealthy Edgar Bronfman (CFR), owner of the multinational liquor company
Seagram and president of the World Jewish Congress, the "funds without
heirs" assault quickly mushroomed into a "humanitarian" rescue mission
for "abused" Jews who had had bank doors "slammed in their faces" when
they tried to collect.

Nowhere in this sustained propaganda was there a semblance of proof of
any "unclaimed assets." Overlooked was the fact that in the 1950s and
again in 1962, Swiss banks formally investigated the dormant accounts of
persons who may have died in the war and paid out tens of millions to
survivors and Jewish causes. In spite of this, the pressure was so
intense that the Swiss government was forced to agree to convene an
Independent Commission of Eminent Persons to audit the banks' records
yet again. The Commission's chairman was none other than Paul Volker of
Federal Reserve fame and powerful member of both the CFR and the
Trilateral Commission. That this was a transparent fraud was revealed by
the American Spectator:"Unfortunately, no reliable study exists, nor can
one be undertaken sixty years later, even by eminent persons, that can
verify from where and how money came into Switzerland during the 1930s."

Meanwhile, Switzerland's Journal de Geneve report

[CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 4

1999-08-04 Thread William Shannon





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read. The editor is cheered or remorseful as appropriate and posts some of
the more interesting messages at http://prorev.com/letters.htm

--

WE ARE NOT MAKING THIS UP

ASSOCIATED PRESS: Hillary Rodham Clinton does not blame her husband's
marital infidelity on the tumult of his childhood, her spokeswoman said
Tuesday, despite the apparent link she drew in a much-discussed magazine
article. "She did not say the president's childhood in any way caused his
behavior, nor does she believe that," spokeswoman Marsha Berry said. In the
debut issue of Talk magazine, which went on sale Tuesday, Mrs. Clinton said
the president was "scarred by abuse" as a child  Expanding on her
husband's background, Mrs. Clinton said he was scarred at age 4 by a
struggle between his mother and grandmother. A psychologist once told me
that for a boy being in the middle of a conflict between two women is the
worst possible situation," she said. "There is always a desire to please
each one."

Vice President Gore says that next year's presidential election is "no time
to take a far-right-U-turn."

Uncovered by the National Review in Bill Bradley's sports memoir, "Life on
the Run": "After so many nights on the road in so many different hotels
encountering so many different situations, everything takes on an ephemeral
quality; everything ends with the payment at the cashier's desk the next
morning. What normally would be out of the question for me becomes
acceptable in the self-contained world of Mt. Marriott or Holiday Valley.
Normal shyness would prevent me from entering a stranger's hotel room, but
on the road there seems to be nothing to lose. Everyone in the hotel sleeps
under the same roof for one night and moves on. Loneliness can be overcome
only by reaching out for contact: a conversation in the bar, a sharing of
dinner, a question in an elevator, a direct invitation, a telephone call to
a room, or a helping hand with doors, windows, TVs, locks, or ice machines.
The percentages are that if a man spends enough nights in hotels he will
meet a woman with whom for that night he will share a bed, giving each a
brief escape from boredom and loneliness. Make no mistake: Life in hotels is
no continuous orgy. There are months of nights in one's room, alone. And it
is rare that an encounter develops beyond the verbal level. It is very
unusual when everything feels right and the loneliness of the road oppresses
two strangers equally at the same time."

>From "Exposing Myself" by Geraldo Rivera, 1991: "We named names and provided
documented evidence of the misdeeds. The businessmen blindsided us with a
lawsuit. Even then, I thought we had these guys nailed, but flaws began to
appear in our case after a well-funded and stubborn counterattack by several
of those named. One problem: We had used a hidden camera to obtain damning
audio and video evidence against the businessmen. That is a fine tactic in
most jurisdictions, but illegal in Illinois. We finally settled the
lawsuits, but the hassle set the frustrating tone for the entire year."

After protest from some politically powerful Jewish groups, the name of a
well-regarded Arab-American was withdrawn as a nominee to a national
commission of terrorism by House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt. He has
now found a suitable Arab-American to serve on the commission: a Christian
who works for the Justice Department and is married to a Jewish lawyer.

THE MEDIACRATS

MSNBC: Is the Washington Post censoring criticism of the influential Sidwell
Friends School? Editors at the paper had accepted an op-ed piece written by
the former editors of Horizon, the student newspaper of the tony private
school that Chelsea Clinton attended. "Censorship at Sidwell Friends," by
Tory Newmyer and Anand Giridharadas, described how their attempts to voice
opposition to the Quaker school were repeatedly kept out of the school
newspaper. The editors had distributed a survey to students, for example,
asking them to evaluate the school's classes and teachers. Four hundred
completed surveys were confiscated by school officials and shredded. Another
article, which questioned an experimental

[CTRL] The Flag of the United States and of the Union of States....

1999-08-04 Thread Inhabitant of the Conquered lands

 -Caveat Lector-

A C T S

PASSED AT THE

FIRST SESSION

OF THE

THIRD CONGRESS

OF THE

United States of America

BEGUN AND HELD AT THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA,

in the State of Pennfylvania,

On Monday the Second of December,

IN THE YEAR OF M, DCC, XCIII.

AND OF THE

Independence of the United States,

THE EIGHTEENTH


A C T S

O F

C O N G R E S S.

C H A P T E R   I.

An Act making an Alteration in the Flag of the

United States.

Be it enacted by the Senate and Houfe of Reprefeantatives of the United States of 
America, in Congrefs Affembled, That from and after the firft day of May anno Domini 
one thoufand feven hundred and ninety-five, the flag of the United States, be fifteen 
fripes alternate red and white.  That the Union be fifteen ftars in a blue field.

FREDERICK AUGUSTUS MUHLENBERG,
Speaker of the Houfe of Reprefentatives.

JOHN ADAMS, Vice-President of the United
States, and Prefident of the Senate.

Approved, January the thirteenth, 1794:

GEORGE WASHINGTON
Prefident of the United States.

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[CTRL] Congress slow to act on audit (fwd)

1999-08-04 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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August 4, 1999

Congress slow to act on audit

Congressman explains
colleagues' silence

By Stephan Archer
© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

Although it could very well be the most flagrant abuse of power
the nation has seen since Nixon, Congress has remained silent.

The abuse of power being referred to is the Internal Revenue
Service's 1996 audit of the Western Journalism Center, parent
company of WorldNetDaily. Political motivations behind the audit
were alleged by the center's founder, Joseph Farah, when the IRS
agent in charge of the audit, Thomas Cederquist, said the case
was a "political case" and "the decisions were being made at the
national level."

Last July, Farah and his Western Journalism Center at last
received additional evidence the audit was politically motivated
when a heavily redacted 1997 Treasury Department Report about the
center titled, "Questionable Exempt Organization Activity," was
released to the center as part of its Freedom of Information Act
request.

The report said, "The audit originated from a taxpayer who faxed
a letter to the White House expressing his concern over a
one-page advertisement paid for by WCJ (Western Center for
Journalism) that asked for contributions to investigate (White
House deputy counsel Vincent) Foster's death. The fax was
forwarded to the EO (Exempt Organizations) National Office and
then to the respective Key District Office for appropriate
actions."

The taxpayer's name who wrote the letter to Clinton on Nov. 9,
1994, after seeing the ad in the Los Angeles Times is Paul Venze.

WorldNetDaily, in attempting to get a reaction from Congress, has
made repeated calls to numerous members of Congress but has had
little success in getting even the smallest comment from any of
them. Most of the congressmen didn't even know Western Journalism
Center had been the target of a politically motivated audit.

Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif., explained to WorldNetDaily a
possible reason for Congress' lack of response on the issue may
have had to do with the fact that on July 20, the very day both
WorldNetDaily and the Wall Street Journal broke the story,
Congress was "riveted on passing a tax bill."

"I think that drowned out everything else," Doolittle said. "I
really think that's the lion's share of the explanation as to why
I suspect most people weren't even aware of it."

For his part, though, Doolittle said he will do what he can to
raise the profile of the case. He plans on doing this by meeting
with members of the Conservative Action Team because this is "the
sort of thing that ought to be talked about."

The uncanny timing of the Treasury Department's release of
documents and Congress' hectic session may bring some questions
to mind, but Judicial Watch's Larry Klayman, who filed suit
against the IRS on behalf of the journalists, said it wasn't any
political calculation that caused the Treasury Department to
release the documents when they did. "They did it because one
part of the Justice Department realized the other part was in
serious trouble and didn't want to be blamed," Klayman said.

"The part of the Justice Department that defends the case in
Sacramento is the Tax Division," continued Klayman. "They're the
ones that had the file, and they're the ones that were
withholding the documents. The part of the Justice Department
that defends the FOIA case is the U.S. Attorney's Office. And I
think -- now this is my guess -- but I think when they found out
their brothers in the Tax Division were withholding documents,
they figured they didn't want to be part of an obstruction of
justice, and they forced the documents to come out. It has
nothing to do with Congress. I'm very certain of that."

Doolittle, who agrees the audit of the center looks "suspicious,"
thinks the current case is worse than Richard Nixon's abuse of
the IRS in the Watergate scandal. In Nixon's time, however, it
was grassroots Republicans that blew the whistle on their own man
in the White House. Will grassroots Democrats now do the same?

"Well after what we've just been through (the impeachment), I
don't know what to think anymore," said Doolittle. "I still can't
explain how what happened, in fact, happened."

Although not speculating on what grassroots Democrats would do,
Klayman had a possible explanation for the lack of interest in
the Republican Party. "Right now, this particular political party
(Republican) has no leadership, and they're just hoping they get
back into power," Klayman said. "Would a Republican Congress
which thinks Filegate can wait until the next administration --
which thinks that Chinagate can wait until the next
administration -- have any interest in protecting the Western
Journalism Center?" asked Klayman matter-of-factly.

Doolittle pointed out, though, that the type of political
coverage by the press may have affected the case.

"Here, the press is basically protecting Clinton," explained
Doolittle. "They weren't protecting (Nixon). I mean, my heavens

[CTRL] Rep.Ron Paul(R-TX) on MFN for Red China

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

The purpose of government is to maintain a society which secures to every
member the inherent and inalienable rights of man, and promotes the safety
and happiness of its people. Protecting these rights from violation,
therefore, is its primary obligation.

"It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." --Thomas
Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795. FE 7:4

"The idea is quite unfounded that on entering into society we give up any
natural right." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Gilmer, 1816. ME 15:24

"[These are] the rights which God and the laws have given equally and
independently to all." --Thomas Jefferson: Instructions to Virginia
Delegation, 1774. ME 1:185

"[Montesquieu wrote in Spirit of the Laws, VIII,c.3:] 'In the state of
nature, indeed, all men are born equal; but they cannot continue in this
equality. Society makes them lose it, and they recover it only by the
protection of the laws.'" --Thomas Jefferson: copied into his Commonplace
Book.

"For the ordinary safety of the citizens of the several States, whether
against dangers from within or without, reliance has been placed either on
the domestic means of the individuals or on those provided by the respective
States." --Thomas Jefferson to James Brown, 1808.



--
June 20, 1997

The China Syndrome:
Let's not be hasty with a prescription

By US Representative Ron Paul
As a physician I know that what might at first seem to be a cure for a
particular ailment is really sometimes not a cure at all. In fact, going
with a gut reaction to prescribe a cure can do more harm than the original
problem.

The same is true for matters of state. The initial reaction to a problem in
society, or the world, will leads us to make a conclusion about a course of
action. Unfortunately, that first reaction can be wrong, even though guided
with the best of intentions.

We have such a case before us now. It is the dilemma of whether or not China
should be granted the same trade relationship granted to almost every other
nation of the world, a status misleadingly referred to as "Most Favored
Nations," or, MFN. We all know the charges: the Chinese government violates
basic human rights of its citizens, it is hostile towards Christianity, and
its system of government runs contrary to our most fundamental beliefs.

The initial reaction of our collective national psyche is to oppose MFN, to
be tough, and say, "No way, no special deals for China." But is it the best
solution?

To clear up a misconception, MFN is not a "special" status. In fact, MFN for
a country simply means we will trade with that nation with no extraordinary
barriers to their entering our marketplace. Free trade is not something to
be lightly dismissed. And MFN is nothing more than an attempt, albeit
imperfect, at free trade.

Eliminating MFN status for China does not hurt the Chinese government. But
it does hurt Americans in two ways. First, by imposing what is essentially a
tax on our people. It is a tax because it is the American consumer who will
pay higher prices on goods which come from China due to US policy. That
means higher prices on many items, but not just items which come directly
from China. If the tariffs on Chinese goods increases, people will be forced
to find replacement products. As the demand for those products increase, so
will those prices.

The second way it hurts Americans is the reciprocal barriers China will
inevitably create. It will be almost impossible for our farmers and
businessmen to sell their products there, which is why nearly every farmer
and every agricultural group I have heard from supports MFN.

But the critics of MFN for China do not address the free-trade aspect of the
debate, or the very real cost eliminating MFN will have on the American
people. Instead, they focus on the real facts that the basic rights of
people the rights we as Americans declare come from God are often violated
by China. And for that I defer to those who are "on the ground" in China:
the missionaries.

According to Father Robert Sirico, a Paulist priest who recently discussed
this topic on the Wall Street Journal's opinion page, the Americans actually
in China working to help the Chinese people are scared of what ending MFN
might do to their efforts and the people to whom they minister. After all,
ending MFN will not bring about the freedoms we hope China may confer on its
people, nor will ending MFN mean more religious freedom or fewer human
rights violations. In fact, those working in China to bring about positive
change fear only the worst if MFN is withdrawn.

"As commercial networks develop, Chinese business people are able to travel
freely, and Chinese believers have more disposable income with which to
support evangelistic endeavors," Sirico writes. Even worse, the missionaries
have been reporting that "such action would endanger their status there, and
possibly lead China to revoke their visas. It would severe

[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM RU MILLS AND RAYELAN ALLAN

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM RU MILLS AND RAYELAN ALLAN

I am sorry that I did not get a letter out saying that I am out of town and
haven't had the time to check my email.

I want to thank all of you who have written to inquire if something was wrong.

I am fine, thank you for your concern.

I will be back at home by the 22nd of August. Starting on the 11th, I will be
at the Global Sciences Conference in Denver

 http://www.globalsciences.com/">Global Sciences Welcome

I do not know if I will be putting out the Rumor Mill when I return. When I
agreed to release the  information that my sources gave me, I agreed to
follow their orders to the letter. I knew if I didn't, they would no longer
supply me with information.

The Wednesday before the  crash of JFK, Jr's airplane, my Sources told me
that Bill Clinton had discovered that the Democratic elders were trying to
figure out a way to get rid of him because he was sabotaging Gore. My sources
told me to expect him to lash out with wild retaliations.

This is posted on my onelist archive page. If you are a member, you will be
able to go there and find it, the date you will be looking for July 15th... I
think! One list dates things one day later than they were sent.

My Sources contacted me after John Kennedy, Jr's plane went down.

They gave me some information that made me incredibly uneasy then they
told me that I couldn't release it over the Rumor Mill until they told me
I could.

To protect myself, I sent the information to some trusted friends and told
them not to make it public until I said it was okey or..

I waited many days, and then called a friend whose lines are tapped by my
Sources group.(I do not know if my friend knows it is My Sources group who is
tapping his phone ) I know that everything I say to him will be heard by
my Sources. This is the only way I have of initiating communication with them.

I asked for permission to publish the information.

Several days later I received a fax with their symbol on it. It said:

STAND DOWN

This means stop what I am doing and don't start again until I am given
permission. This is one of the things I agreed to do when I agreed to release
their information. I don't know why they don't want the information they gave
me released. But I doubt they would have given me this order if there wasn't
an extremely good reason.

If you need to reach me for an emergency, call 801.268.1999. Hal knows how to
reach me. And while you are talking to him, order something so I will have
enough money to get home.

Again,

Thanks for your concern,

Rayelan and Ru






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[CTRL] Fwd: Big Brother Control of News-Update

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan





Recipients--

We've received MANY requests for further information on Clinton's
Presidential Decision Directive #68.

You know: the one that pretty much completes the burial ceremonies for
the tattered remnants of our so-called free press. The one which decrees
that henceforth ALL "news" made available to the public be passed
through the screening processes of the newly-created International
Public Information (IPI) system, so that all news being reported is
"synchronized", "DE-CONFLICTED", sanitized, and otherwise completely
gutted of any semblance of inconsistency with the officially approved
version of reality which WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TOLD.

In other words, ALL news reported in this country is due to be BLATANTLY
and thoroughly spin-doctored by Administration clones in pursuit of
completely seamless management and "handling" of the news; so that we
ONLY hear and see WHAT THEY SAY we can hear and see.

Why does this reminds me so much of the tactics of totalitarian regimes
like Communist China, Russia, Hitler's Third Reich and that satirized in
George Orwell's 1984?

It seems the actual text of this directive has NOT been made public.

Any guesses why that's the case?

John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.


For the most comprehensive report available on the subject
http://www.washtimes-weekly.com/stories/exclusive.html

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Weekly Edition
Published in Washington, D.C. August 2 - 8, 1999 -- Edition
"America's Newspaper"

Administration spin
to go global

By Ben Barber
A former senior Clinton administration official charged on July 28 that
a new multiagency plan to closely control the dissemination of public
information abroad is really aimed at "spinning the American public."
The plan, disclosed on July 28 by The Washington Times, emerged out of
concern that the U.S. public has refused to back President Clinton's
foreign policy, said the former official, who spoke on the condition he
not be identified. Administration officials "say news coverage is
distorted at home and they need to fight it at all costs by using
resources that are aimed at spinning the news," said the former
official, who had close knowledge of the plan's development.

Mr. Clinton in April issued Presidential Decision Directive 68, ordering
the creation of the International Public Information (IPI) system,
designed to make sure that all government agencies disseminating
information abroad share a single message. A draft charter obtained by
The Washington Times says the purpose of IPI is "to prevent and mitigate
crises and to influence foreign audiences in ways favorable to the
achievement of U.S. foreign policy objectives."

Officials of U.S. defense, intelligence, diplomatic and other agencies
met for the first time on July 28 at the State Department to go over the
draft charter, said a source who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Only "minor changes" were made to the charter at that meeting, the
source said, but it was possible that "major" changes would be made in
the near future.

Future meetings of an IPI "core group" developing the new information
system are to be chaired by Morton Halperin, head of policy planning at
the State Department. The draft charter says information aimed at U.S.
audiences should "be coordinated, integrated, deconflicted and
synchronized with the [IPI] to achieve a synergistic effect." The former
senior official complained that the charter "did not distinguish what
would be done overseas and what would be done at home. . . . It talks
about a news war."

In a telephone interview after the meeting, an administration official
rejected accusations that IPI could be used in a partisan manner or be
used to influence American public opinion. "This is absolutely not the
case," said the official, who also declined to be identified. "We are
very cognizant of the history of the '80s. There are congressional
controls now." The official was referring to the 1980s Iran-Contra
affair, in which some Reagan administration officials covertly sold arms
to Iran to raise money to fund the Contra war in Nicaragua. After
October, IPI will be run by the newly created undersecretary of state
for public diplomacy, who will take over most of the duties of the U.S.
Information Agency (USIA), which is being disbanded. Former White House
aide Evelyn Lieberman has been nominated for that post.

However, the IPI system was said to be the brainchild of White House
intelligence chief Dick Clarke. His aide, former White House fellow
Jamie Metzl, largely wrote the plan and is now serving as IPI senior
coordinator, according to the former senior administration official.
Media and political analysts expressed concern about the plan. "This . .
. indicates a measure of desperation in President Clinton's foreign
policy," said Seth Ackerman of Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a
liberal media-watch- dog group. "When it is not received well abroad, he
resorts to propaganda."

On the other end of the political spectrum, Ariel Cohen 

[CTRL] What do you do with the defective slaves?

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

What do you do with the defective slaves?


What do you do with the defective slaves?
Do you set them aside?
Do you boil them in oil?
Do you deceive them,
As, you bleed them,
All the while?

What do you do with the defective slaves?
Do you get them to fight one another?
You know,
To save you the bother?

Now, you lose,
By the way,
Everytime;
But the play is the game,
And it ain’t always the same.
And isn’t being a player,
Better than,
Being the game?

What do you do with the defective slaves?
Effectively, cajoling away,
Away down the river,
Away till the time,
A will and a way,
For the defective slaves.


(C) !997 R. A. Kris Millegan
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[CTRL] FREE Program 4 mass e-mailer 2 DC thugs

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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"Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is
unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is
unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by
the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,'
because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates
the right of an individual."
--Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819.

It is our right,
and it is our duty,
to remain free.
 --- Alan Keyes

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GovernMail is a free advertiser supported program.

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know your views.

Then, in 2000, elect people who are not Thugs.

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[CTRL] poll on TV networks [WND]

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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It is our right,
and it is our duty,
to remain free.
 --- Alan Keyes


National Survey for Wednesday, August 4, 1999
1.  Which of these television networks do you watch the most for news?
 NBC
 ABC
 CBS
 Fox
 CNN
2.  Which of these television networks do you think offers the fairest
coverage of the news?
 NBC
 ABC
 CBS
 Fox
 CNN
http://www.becounted.com/

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion."
---Edmund Burke


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[CTRL] To DemocRats and Republicans, I say, "None of the above." [WND]

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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"If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the
highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its
experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
--- Samuel Adams (1780)
--
Only in the presence of God will the Devil be cast out!

WEDNESDAY
AUGUST 04
1999


 Vote 'none of the above' in 2000




© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

In just under two days, a quick perusal of the news revealed several good
reasons why our current two-party system is no longer functional.
Among this list of items, see if you can spot a similar theme:

Linda Tripp last week became the only figure charged with a crime in the
Monicagate affair or, at a minimum, the only crime that will land anyone in
jail if she is convicted.

Though the evidence against mixed-sex training in the armed forces is
convincing and overwhelming, a panel "examining" the issue voted to continue
it anyway. The Marine Corps provided the best proof available, considering
they don't train men and women together, but it too was ignored.

Washington Times reporters discovered that an Interior Department official
told his boss in a secret memo about his covert "on-the-job political
campaign" aimed at "unseating House Republican leaders" in the 1998
election. So far Congress is "examining" this smoking gun.

A British/NATO general ignored an order given to him by the Supreme
Commander of NATO forces in Kosovo, Gen. Wesley Clark, to stop a Russian
military force from entering the Pristina airport after a cease-fire had
been reached in the Yugoslav war. As a result, Gen. Clark -- not the
Briton -- was relieved of his command.

A new report published in the Washington Post revealed what many have
suspected for some time -- that the so-called GOP "revolution" of 1994 has
resulted in little governmental change, as well as an increase, rather than
a decrease, in spending on the federal level.

The Justice Department has had evidence since 1997 that CitiBank in New
York, Los Angeles and Hong Kong laundered money for Johnny Chung, who was
acting on behalf of Chinese military operatives seeking to influence the
1996 presidential elections. I can almost hear Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn.,
shaking his head in disgust.
What do all of these stories have in common?

They all demonstrate the total corruption of our system of government. They
demonstrate to me that a criminal president -- Bill Clinton -- is firmly in
control of his own destiny and there is no "opposition party" in place to
checkmate him.

Furthermore, these stories demonstrate:

Republicans also cannot help but spend our money -- same as the Democrats.

Republicans can't do anything about a military training decision that is so
fundamentally wrong even some panel members who voted for it knew it was a
bad decision and fundamentally wrong. *

Republicans can do nothing to protect from politically motivated persecution
an individual -- Ms. Linda Tripp -- who has more political courage than all
of them put together.

Republicans can do nothing to protect the status and position of a seasoned
U.S. general who had his order ignored by some British underling in a time
of war. Consequently, Republicans will be able to do nothing about the
impending disintegration of NATO either.

Republicans can do nothing about an administration that is so permeated with
rot and corruption that there is literally not one single department or
administrative bureaucracy that hasn't been tainted -- even one as obscure
as Interior.

Republicans can do nothing about obvious violations of the law regarding
elections, campaign funding, and a president's treasonous commingling with
intelligence agents of a powerful foreign country.
These stories also show that this country is little more than a rudderless,
leaderless vessel in a sea of corruption. Americans are being "led" in a
manner befitting a third- or fourth-rate banana republic -- the very same
kind of governments our politicians love to point and laugh at. There is so
much "CYA" going on that if all the guilty parties ever had to go to court,
the trial would stretch halfway through the next millennium -- all because
Americans have no opposition party in Washington, D.C., for all intents and
purposes.

Having said that, I will admit that no reasonable conservative voter really
expected the Republicans -- in less than five years -- to blow into D.C. on
a promise of "revolution" and reverse 60 years of FDR-inspired socialism.

However, few of us expected them to become part of the problem either.

For instance, I believe most conservatives realize that Republicans are not
yet powerful enough to roll back tax rates to five percent or cut 90 percent
of the federal bureaucracy. And I don't think we expected them to convert
Social Sec

[CTRL] [3] Were We Controlled?

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
Were We Controlled?
Lincoln Lawerence(C) 1967
University Books, Inc.
New Hyde Park, N. Y.
out -of-print
---
A very interesting book. A bit of a hard read at the beginning, but then, the
author(a psuedonymn) is covering some hard to grasp subjects. One thing to
notice is that the operation( or at least parts of it ) began before even JFK
was elected. Also there are very many interesting facts and theories
presented. And for those with questions about Bunge corporation, it is
discussed also.
--
This book has recently been reissued in an annotated version, with much
additional material, Highly reccommended.
MIND CONTROL, OSWALD & JFK: Were We Controlled?
by Kenn Thomas
Adventures Unlimited Press
POB 74 Kempton, IL 60946

Om
K
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7.

Lee Harvey Oswald

Let us now re-state the R.H.I.C. theory as it relates to The Rumor. Exactly
how could persons like Lee Harvey Oswald be "controlled" to perform the act
of murder? By Radio-Hypnotic Intracerebral Control! We have seen that radio
transmission can definitely produce meaningful stimulation of the brain. For
R.H.I.C., the response need not be even as complex as those we have read
about. All that is necessary is a simple neuromuscular twitch activated by
radio.

One of the few glimpses we have been given by the scientific community—of the
ultra-miniaturized
radio-muscle-stimulators—was announced quietly by Dr. Wen Hsiung Ko of the
Case Institute of Technology in Cleveland. He admitted that receivers the
size of shirt-buttons were in the "experimental" stage . . . receivers that
could be buried in muscles and used to stimulate them internally.

Dr. Ko's admission to the technical press comes years after the R.H.I.C.
technicians had placed such implants in operation for less worthy motives
than his. Dr. Ko's experiments are related to the work that has been done in
Europe for many years to stimulate artificial limbs. His announcement of the
extent to which the equipment has been miniaturized is no surprise to the
researcher of information on R.H.I.C. implantations.


Now, accepting the feasibility of this, the "radio" part of R.H.I.C., let us
move on to the "hypno" aspect. If the subject is placed under hypnosis and
mentally programmed to maintain a determination eventually to perform one
specific act (perhaps, for example, to shoot someone), it is suggested that
thereafter, each time a particular muscle twitches in a certain manner (which
is then demonstrated by using the transmitter) . . . he will increase this
determination even more strongly. As the hypnotic spell is renewed again and
again, he makes it his life's purpose to carry out this act, until it is
finally achieved.

Thus are the two complementary aspects of R.H.I.C. joined to reinforce each
other and perpetuate the control until such time as the controlled behavior
is called for. This is done by a second session with the hypnotist giving
final instructions. These might be reinforced with radio-stimulation in more
frequent cycles. They could even carry over the moments after the act to
reassure calm behavior during the "escape" period (as in the case of Oswald)
or to assure that one conspirator would not indicate he was aware of the
co-conspirator's role or that he was even acquainted with him. This might
serve to block so much as a mention of the other's name.

(From the testimony before the Warren Commission by Jack Ruby.)

RUBY: "Very rarely do I use the name Oswald. I don't know why. I don't know
how to explain it "

(From "Dallas Justice" by Melvin Belli—Page 102.)

"He (Ruby) rarely called Oswald by name."


Consider how very difficult it is for anyone to discuss the assassination
without using Oswald's name! R.H.I.C. is a very simple albeit fiendish
combination of two known scientific tools joined in a sophisticated
modification to produce a theoretically predictable result. R.H.I.C. is one
procedure that can explain the events in Dallas.

The questions in rebuttal to this stand come quickly to mind.

"Can anyone . . . using R.H.I.C. or not . . . be hypnotized to commit a
criminal act so brutal as murder? Isn't it true that one will not perform any
act under hypnosis that one wouldn't in a perfectly uncontrolled state?"

The answer is simply no.

Dr. Theodore Barber of Harvard University in The Journal of Psychology states
that a good subject will commit anti-social or dangerous acts if first
convinced by the hypnotist that his behavior is normal and proper: such acts
(as one account of Dr. Barber's work puts it) as throwing acid at the
experimenter! "Two recent extensive reviews of this problem have not failed
to note that since the good subject accepts the hypnotist's words as true
statements, an unscrupulous hypnotist can induce the subject to commit
'anti-social' acts.'

Again the skeptic's retort may be "All very well to theorize . . . but has it
ever been proven that a person under hypnosis will actually do these things?"

The answer is an unqualifi

[CTRL] Intelligence in the War of Independence

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/warindep/frames.html
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/warindep/frames.html">Intelligence
in the War of Independence
-
History pages from the US government. Documentary and commentary. This is
just a small sample of a complete report.
Om
K
-
Organization of Intelligence
Organization of Intelligence

The Committee of Secret Correspondence


Recognizing the need for foreign intelligence and foreign alliances, the
Second Continental Congress created the Committee of Correspondence
(soon renamed the Committee of Secret Correspondence) by a resolution of
November 29, 1775:

RESOLVED, That a committee of five would be appointed for the sole
purpose of corresponding with our friends in Great Britain, and other
parts of the world, and that they lay their correspondence before
Congress when directed;

RESOLVED, That this Congress will make provision to defray all such
expenses as they may arise by carrying on such correspondence, and for
the payment of such agents as the said Committee may send on this
service.

The Committee members-America's first foreign intelligence
directorate-were Benjamin Franklin of Pennsylvania, Benjamin Harrison of
Virginia and Thomas Johnson of Maryland. Subsequent appointees included
James Lovell, a teacher who had been arrested by the British after the
battle of Bunker Hill on charges of spying. He had later been exchanged
for a British prisoner and was then elected to the Continental Congress.
On the Committee of Secret Correspondence he became the Congress' expert
on codes and ciphers and has been called the father of American
cryptanalysis.

The committee employed secret agents abroad, conducted covert
operations, devised codes and ciphers, funded propaganda activities,
authorized the opening of private mail, acquired foreign publications
for use in analysis, established a courier system, and developed a
maritime capability apart from that of the Navy. It met secretly in
December 1775 with a French intelligence agent who visited Philadelphia
under cover as a Flemish merchant, and engaged in regular communications
with Britons and Scots who sympathized with the Patriots' cause.

On April 17, 1777, the Committee of Secret Correspondence was renamed
the Committee of Foreign Affairs, but kept with its intelligence
function. Matters of diplomacy were conducted by other committees or by
the Congress as a whole. With the creation of a Department of Foreign
Affairs-the forerunner of the Department of State-on January 10, 1781,
correspondence "for the purpose of obtaining the most extensive and
useful information relative to foreign affairs" was shifted to the new
body, whose secretary was empowered to correspond "with all other
persons from whom he may expect to receive useful information."
The Secret Committee


Even before setting up the Committee of Secret Correspondence, the
Second Continental Congress had created a Secret Committee by a
resolution on September 18, 1775. The Committee was given wide powers
and large sums of money to obtain military supplies in secret, and was
charged with distributing the supplies and selling gunpowder to
privateers chartered by the Continental Congress. The Committee also
took over and administered on a uniform basis the secret contracts for
arms and gunpowder previously negotiated by certain members of the
Congress without the formal sanction of that body. The Committee kept
its transactions secret, and destroyed many of its records to assure the
confidentiality of its work.

The Secret Committee employed agents overseas, often in cooperation with
the Committee of Secret Correspondence. It also gathered intelligence
about Tory secret ammunition stores and arranged to seize them. The
Secret Committee sent missions to plunder British supplies in the
southern colonies. It arranged the purchase of military stores through
intermediaries so as to conceal the fact that the Continental Congress
was the true purchaser. The Secret Committee used foreign flags to
protect its vessels from the British fleet.

The members of the Continental Congress appointed to the Committee
included some of the most influential and responsible members of the
Congress: Franklin, Robert Morris, Robert Livingston, John Dickinson,
Thomas Willing, Thomas McKean, John Langdon, and Samuel Ward.
The Committee on Spies


On June 5, 1776, the Congress appointed John Adams, Thomas Jefferson,
Edward Rutledge, James Wilson and Robert Livingston "to consider what is
proper to be done with persons giving intelligence to the enemy or
supplying them with provisions." The same Committee was charged with
revising the Articles of War in regard to espionage directed against the
patriot forces. The problem was an urgent one; Dr. Benjamin Church,
chief physician of the Continental Army, had already been seized and
imprisoned as a British agent, but there was no civilian espionage act,
and military law did not provide punishment se

[CTRL] why klintoon/algore won't cut taxes

1999-08-04 Thread Bard

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It is our right,
and it is our duty,
to remain free.
 --- Alan Keyes


WEDNESDAY
AUGUST 04
1999



 Why Clinton won't cut taxes




© 1999 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

The only reason we may have achieved a balanced budget is because it sneaked
up on the obsessive-compulsive spenders in Washington D.C. They simply did
not see it coming. President Ronald Reagan predicted we would grow our way
out of budgetary deficits, but liberals did not believe him.
No one is more surprised than Bill Clinton. There is no way he would have
allowed this to happen if he had not been caught off-guard.

But he is quickly moving to rectify what liberals view as a repulsive, nigh
unforgivable mistake: allowing revenues to overtake spending. His goal is to
eliminate even the possibility of a surplus, not only for the next fiscal
year, but for years to come. He will do this by launching new programs,
making new spending commitments, and adding new entitlements.

The reaction of liberals to the idea of a tax cut has been most revealing.
They are deeply offended by the noxious thought that, perhaps, maybe, a
fourth of the "surplus" should be returned to the people who actually earned
the money and who are being seriously overcharged for government services
rendered.

In various rants over the past few weeks, Bill Clinton said that Republicans
would "squander the surplus on a short-sighted, irresponsible, over-large
tax plan." He was just getting warmed up. He said tax refunds would force
"huge cuts in education, agriculture, the environment, defense, biomedical
research ... indeed, everything we are doing to strengthen our country. ...
It would cause us to revert to the dark old days of huge deficits, high
interest rates, low economic growth and stagnation." He said that the
proposed reduction in taxation discriminates against women and endangers the
future of our children.

This overheated rhetoric soars high above the routine lying we have come to
expect from political hacks, even this one. It is a frothy and hysterical
overreaction that transcends the demagogic and suggests the pathological.
One might well have a policy difference over taxes, but to prophesize
Armageddon, the end of the world as we know it, if taxes are cut, reflects
either an inner world of delusions or an operative view of Americans as
gullible dupes and simpletons.

It has been said before and bears repeating: If an infinite number of
Democrats sat before an infinite number of word processors for an infinite
period of time, sooner or later, one of them would type out the sentence, "A
budget may be balanced by reducing spending."

However, nothing would change. I simply postulate they would type out the
message. I am not prepared to say they would understand what they had
written, no matter what infinities are assumed.

It must be conceded that this impairment might be the result of some sort of
chemical imbalance -- or some genetic misfortune. For this reason, perhaps
we should not be too quick to judge. Perhaps we should simply remove these
hapless people from the temptations for which they have no biological
defenses.

Whatever the reason, nurture or nature, it is an established fact that
liberals are addictively drawn to every expansion of government power, every
new tax, every piece of pork, every boondoggle, every new program, every old
program and every pay raise and new amenity for themselves, their clients
and their cronies.

To be fair, there is another way of explaining the aversion of liberals to
any reduction in taxes and spending. Think of the government as a business,
with millions of employees who equate big government with job security and
benefits. The goal of this business, as with any business, is to increase
revenues and expand the customer base. Taxes are viewed as revenues, the
higher the better; those who depend on government are customers, the more
the merrier. Spending is considered an investment.

Naturally, advertising is important to support the business. Those who
produce wealth must be made to feel guilty for their success and less
inclined to protest when it is taken from them; and those who receive
government benefits and favors must be made to feel that they have a right
to the fruit off someone else's tree. And everyone must be convinced that
the constitutional limitations on the size and power of government are
old-fashioned and outmoded.

It takes a lot of creative, brain-bending advertising to induce these
mindsets.

However, when the propaganda is successful, the scam systematically proceeds
with its massive "redistribution of wealth," not as is commonly believed,
from one citizen to another, but from all citizens to the government.

Liberals are wannabe elites in a socialist America. Once they get us to a
point where the majority of citizens ar

Re: [CTRL] Computerised Election Fraud

1999-08-04 Thread K

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Some people recommend voting absentee ballots as a way to
make sure your vote is properly recorded.  These are paper ballots
and must be hand counted.


Anything worth doing, is worth doing for a profit.


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Re: [CTRL] Scientists Study Aspartame/Brain Cancer Link

1999-08-04 Thread Edward Ford

Hi Bill,
Here is a good link to research on the poison aspartame...

 The
Chemical Manipulation of Human Consciousness also
 Aspartame
Research Reference Materials and
 Aspartame (Nutrasweet)
Toxicity Information Center and
 Neotame Toxicity
Information Center but wait there's more
 http://www.tiac.net/users/mgold/aspartame/brain.txt
and
 Dr.
Olney Feb. 1997 Brain Tumor Update, answering the skeptics! (part 1of 3)
and
 Cancer
and Aspartame
There's a hell of a lot more on this poison but frankly I'm burnt on
linking. Hope you find these article enlightening, and stop ingesting this
shit, it WILL kill you.

Rusty

William Shannon wrote:
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In a message dated 8/3/99 2:36:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Here are a few articles on a new study of the well-known link
between
 aspartame and brain cancer. >>

==Since when is any like between aspartame and human cancer "well
known"??

Could you produce documentation? Wuold sure like a look!

Bill.

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[CTRL] [Alert!] U.S. buildup in Colombia? (fwd)

1999-08-04 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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 ===
 Published Sunday, August 1, 1999, in the Miami Herald

 U.S. buildup in Colombia?

 The possibility of U.S. military intervention in Colombia may not be a
 burning  issue in the United States, but it's grabbing headlines from
 Mexico to Argentina.

  In Latin America, the press seems virtually certain that a massive U.S.
 military buildup in Colombia is on the way.

 You can't blame Latin Americans for being suspicious: On July 23, a U.S.
 Army reconnaissance plane with five U.S. soldiers aboard crashed in a
 guerrilla-controlled Colombian mountain area, raising new questions about
 the U.S. military's mission.

 U.S. officials say the Pentagon maintains about 200 military personnel in
 Colombia, with duties that include training an elite Colombian battalion to
 combat drug trafficking. The battalion will begin operating in mostly
 guerrilla-dominated areas later this year.

 Meanwhile, the Clinton administration is calling Colombia's drug
 trafficking a U.S. national security problem, there is growing alarm over a
 massive exodus of Colombians to Florida, and U.S. anti-drug czar Barry
 McCaffrey has called for a $1 billion increase in U.S. anti-narcotics aid,
 most of it for the Colombian military.

 ``There is no mystery why Latin Americans are apprehensive,'' says Michael
 Shifter, of the Inter-American Dialogue, a Washington think tank. ``Add the
 latest headlines to the recent NATO intervention in the Balkans and the
 long history of U.S. intervention in the hemisphere, and their conclusion
 is logical.''

 During a tour of Colombia, Ecuador and Venezuela last week, McCaffrey was
 forced to repeat endlessly that Colombia will be no Vietnam. There will be
 ``zero U.S. intervention in Colombia,'' he stated in Venezuela.

 Should U.S. officials be believed? I asked a half-dozen well-placed current
 and former U.S. officials why they are so categorical in their denials of a
 U.S. military buildup in Colombia. Among their answers:

 There is a near consensus in top Clinton administration foreign policy
 circles that the civil war in Colombia is rooted in ancient political
 conflicts and cannot be won militarily.

 ``To think that the problem in Colombia could be solved with a military
 policy would be deceiving ourselves,'' said Arturo Valenzuela, a senior
 White House National Security Council official overseeing Latin American
 affairs. ``This is a problem that has been dragging on for 40 years, which
 has a lot to do with the progressive weakening of the central government.''

 Even if U.S. troops could help Colombia's army win the war militarily, the
 risks of a Vietnam-style quagmire would far outweigh the rewards. ``There
 are no Cold War pressures in this case: There is no fear that Colombia is
 going to be taken over by a hostile superpower,'' says Brian Latell, a
 former chief CIA analyst for Latin America, who now teaches at Georgetown
 University.

 There is no support among the U.S. public for U.S. military involvement in
 Colombia's civil war, which has cost 35,000 lives over the past 10 years,
 and no one in Washington wants to take the risk of selling the idea.

 A U.S. anti-insurgency effort could backfire and help rally support for the
 guerrillas. Even if many Colombians would support a U.S. intervention,
 there would be a strong nationalistic reaction in other Latin American
 countries.

 U.S. officials say the current policy -- focusing on military anti-drug aid
 -- will ultimately weaken the rebels as well, because drug-trafficking
 rings pay the guerrillas up to $500 million a year in protection money.
 ``If we can do away with the drug traffickers, the guerrillas will not have
 the capacity to subsist at their current levels,'' one U.S. official said.

 Others add that by strengthening its underequipped army, Colombia's
 government will be able to negotiate from a position of greater strength.

 What do I think? The United States is highly unlikely to commit combat
 troops to Colombia. But some influential hard-liners in Washington are
 whispering that if 55 U.S. military advisors helped to defeat a leftist
 insurgency in El Salvador in the 1980s, the same could be done in Colombia.
 I would not be surprised if the next U.S. president -- especially if it's a
 Republican -- follows that road.
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[CTRL] Computerised Election Fraud

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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from alt.conspiracy
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As always, Caveat Lector.
Om
K
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Computerised Election Fraud
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Subject: Computerised Election Fraud
From: "capcomx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 02 August 1999 08:29 PM EDT
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  HORROR STORY: COMPUTERIZED ELECTION FRAUD 

 Washington -- Susan Bernecker doesn't
believe in grand conspiracies. She's a fitness
instructor and local political activist in Jefferson
Parish, La. But the events of Oct. 24, 1995 have
shaken her faith in one of the basic tenets of
democracy: one person, one vote.
 As a candidate for parish council, Bernecker
stood an outside chance of beating incumbent
Nick Giambelluca. But when the votes rolled in
after the Oct. 21 election, she wound up with
only 33 percent of the total.
 Three days later, on a Tuesday, Bernecker
and the other candidates were invited to
inspect the new, state-of-the-art voting machines
that the parish had bought from a New York
company, Sequoia Pacific Voting Equipment Inc.
A "direct-recording" machine, it uses a computer
to directly tabulate votes, which are cast by
the press of a button.
 With a cameraman in tow to record the
event, Bernecker tested one of the machines by
pressing the button next to her name. To her
astonishment, however, the name of her
opponent appeared on a display at the bottom.
She repeated the process several times, with
mixed results.
 Bernecker filed suit to challenge the
results of the election. But the judge wasn't
convinced and threw the whole thing out
after a one-day hearing.
 Nonetheless, the Bernecker case helps
illustrate a chilling -- if very remote --
downside to the increased use of computers
to tabulate election results: There is no paper
trail, and no way to tell if an election has
been tampered with.
 The stealing of elections is nothing new in
American politics -- and every system has its
flaws and vulnerabilities. But mechanical
systems allow for a recount. In
direct-recording systems, recounts are
virtually impossible.
 Phil Foster, a salesman for Sequoia
Pacific, explains that the wrong name
appeared only because Bernecker
"rolled her finger" as she was pressing
the button, causing her to push two
buttons at once. He adds that it would
be virtually "impossible" to tamper
with the machines without someone
finding out. Bernecker insists that she
didn't roll her finger, and some of those
who've seen the videotape back her up.
 There is no evidence that Sequoia
Pacific is guilty of any wrongdoing, or
that anyone tampered with the machines.
Even those who are opposed to computerized
voting machines say that Sequoia Pacific's
machines are some of the most
tamper-resistant models on the market.
 Most likely, experts say, election
tampering would have to come from
the inside -- someone who knows and
has access to the sophisticated
computer code that is the "brains"
behind computerized voting systems.
If someone were to tamper with a
computerized voting machine in this
way, it would be practically impossible
to detect -- and even harder to find the
culprit.
 Eva Waskell of Reston, Va., has studied
this problem for more than a decade. She
says one major problem is that the computer
codes that run the machines are protected
as trade secrets, which makes it very had to
have an election independently audited.
 "The election industry is virtually
unregulated," Waskell complains, referring
to the companies that provide election
supplies and other hardware.
 The chances of a local election
being rigged through computer tampering
are indeed remote, and the risk that a
presidential election could be rigged
is virtually nonexistent. But by
casting our votes via computer, are
we opening the door to a day when
our most vital right can be tampered
with at the touch of a keystroke?

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[CTRL] China Uses Info-War Techniques to Suppress Religious Following

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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http://www.pigdog.org/auto/liberty/link/687.html">Pigdog Journal
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China Uses Info-War Techniques to Suppress Religious Following
1999-08-03 00:49:08

By El Snatcher
Liberty There are half-eaten animals lying on the sidewalks!
-- Gene

Maybe you haven't heard: the latest craziness happening in China is the
large-scale protests against the recent banning of the heretofore little
known New Age religion known as Falun Gong (pronounced fah-luhn gung).
The Chinese government has launched an all out campaign against the
estimated two million followers in China, including mass arrests, and
BRUTAL propaganda attacks, which have now spilled onto the Internet.

Despite the official ban, tens of thousands of angry followers of the
sect have been proving its popularity by streaming out to large-scale
protests all over China. Tiananmen Square hasn't seen so many protectors
since the 1989 student crackdown. Many of them have been arrested --
some viciously beaten, and dragged into police vans by their hair.

The Chinese government outlawed Falun Gong on July 22, when it feared
the organization was getting too big, and posturing toward political
power. China does not allow independent political organizations of any
kind, fearing eventual challenges to the supreme uber-rule of the
Chinese Communist Party.

Like the followers of Tai Chi, Falun Gong followers do funny exercises
in public parks, and other large outdoor areas. The religion is sort of
an amalgamation of Buddhist and Taoist philosophies, deep breathing
exercises known as Qi Gong, with a dash of martial arts thrown in.

Started by a former clerk and trumpet player named Master Li Hongzhi
(pronounced Hongshee) in 1992, Falun Gong quickly grew in China, and so
did Li's legend. Some of his followers claim he can perform fantastic
feats, such as cure cancer and turn white hair black. By 1995, his
following was so large, and his "energy potency" at such a high level,
that the Chinese authorities chased him out of the country.

Currently he is a U.S. citizen living in New York. It is rumored that he
spent significant time in Canada, where he honed his philosophies and
literature.

Once the decision to suppress the sect was made, the roust was swift and
extreme. At least 100 spiritual leaders of the following were rounded up
all over the country, homes of practitioners ransacked, and nearly two
million books and other Falun Gong materials confiscated and quickly
tossed into pulping machines.

Beijing has ordered the arrest of the Master Li, and purportedly even
offered a $500 million reduction of the United States' trade surplus in
exchange for Li's extradition back to China. Lucky for him, he has a
green card.

The Chinese government has also launched a massive propaganda offensive,
which includes an hour a day of anti-Falun Gong denouncements on Central
China Television (CCTV). The Gongers are accused of spreading
"superstitious, evil thinking," and advocating everything from eschewing
scientific medicine to mass suicide. The followers of Falun Gong deny
the allegations.

Perhaps the most fascinating aspect of this story is how both the
Chinese government and the followers of Falun Gong have been using the
Internet. China immediately shut down every Falun Gong Web site within
its reach, and suspended email access throughout the country for 48
hours after the ban.

There is a large International community of Falun Gong followers,
spreading the word of Master Li, and the latest news and information
about what's going on in China, on Internet forums and swastika-bedecked
Web sites (the swastika seems to be a symbol important to Falun
Gongers), but the Chinese Government is furiously on the Info Warpath.

The Associated Press is reporting that Falun Gong Web sites in the
United States and elsewhere have been under heavy attack by hackers, who
may be in the employ of the Chinese government. One ham-fisted hack
attempt was traced back to the Chinese national police bureau in
Beijing.

There are also anti-Falun Gong Web sites maintained by the Chinese
authorities.

Check it out yourself


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[CTRL] Democrat senators 'bullied to back Gore'

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/08/03/timfgnusa01002.html?9
99">The Times: World News:Democrat senators 'bullie 
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August 3 1999 UNITED STATES



Democrat senators 'bullied to back Gore'


Washington: A senior Democratic Senator has accused the White House of
bullying his colleagues to back Vice-President Al Gore in the
presidential race (Damian Whitworth writes). Joseph Biden, the Senator
from Delaware, claimed that pressure was being applied to make Democrats
swing into line behind Mr Gore and reject Bill Bradley, the former
basketball star who is challenging Mr Gore for the nomination.
"It's been made clear to me that the things I say about Bradley that are
nice are heard in Gore's office," Mr Biden said. His comment suggested
that those who did not back Mr Gore were being threatened with
punishment by the Clinton Administration.

"Ninety-five per cent of my colleagues here on the Democratic side
believe that Bill Clinton has consciously turned over the reins of
political power to Al Gore. Whether that's true is not really the point.
That's an unusual tactic, a 1940s' tactic," Mr Biden said.

Mr Gore leads Mr Bradley in the polls but the former Senator from New
Jersey has raised a surprising amount of money and is now a real threat
to the Vice-President.


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #2

1999-08-04 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990804b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
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# Brit 'Supergerm' Created For Defense - 'Ethnic Specific' Germs Discussed.
  UK Ministry of Defense has disclosed that it is creating lethal genetical-
  ly modified (GM) organisms in a secret program to prepare defenses against
  a new era of germ warfare. The research uses similar genetic engineering
  techniques to those that create GM foods sold in supermarkets. Countering
  enemy weapons - see http://www.sightings.com/politics4/ethgerm.htm

: What ethnic groups would you like to target with bioweapons? Can/should we
wage biowar on blacks, whites, browns, Jews, Reptilioids, Republicans, you??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# TULSA PANEL SEEKS TRUTH OF 1921 RACE RIOT. A few elderly Oklahomans lived
  through one of the worst race riots in U.S. history, a rarely mentioned
  1921 Tulsa blood bath that officially took dozens of African-American
  lives, but more likely claimed hundreds or even thousands. Unmarked
  graves - see http://cnn.com/US/9908/03/tulsa.riots.probe/index.html

: Does your belief system promote the slaughter of members of other ethnic/
religious/political groups? Are such slaughters just harvests impelled by
alien/gov't/corporate mind-control mechanisms, or do you do it for fun??
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# New X-Ray Vision Will Let Cops See Through Walls. NEW YORK (APBN) Three
  high-tech labs are in the final stages of developing a new form of radar
  device that can see through walls by broadcasting radio signals across
  broad bands of the spectrum to pinpoint a hidden suspect. Based on
  military technology, the products still need gov't approval and won't go
  on sale immediately. http://www.sightings.com/politics4/xrayeyes.htm

# Do you want X-Ray vision? Do you have it already? Do alien/gov't/corporate
agencies peer thru your walls, watching you? Do you peer thru walls? At who?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SKEPTICAL INQUIRER SEPT/OCT 1999 PREVIEW

== Flash! Fox News Reports that Aliens May Have Built the Pyramids of Egypt!
  Pseudoscience as news? The Fox Networks' handling of its primetime special
  "Opening of the Lost Tombs: Live from Egypt" raises ethical questions.
== Where Do We Come From? A Humbling Look at the Biology of Life's Origin.
  The origin of life on Earth is a fundamental scientific question, but we
  do not know as much as many biology textbooks would like you to believe.
== Profits and Prophecy - Hayseed Stevens and Oil in Israel.
  A fundamentalist oil entrepreneur mixes creation science, Biblical proph-
  ecy, and revivalist techniques for a program of oil exploration in Israel.
== Projective Measures of Personality and Psychopathology - How Well Do They
  Work? Although projective techniques remain among the most popular of all
  psychological measures, many critics have branded them pseudoscientific.
== What Every Skeptic Should Know About Subliminal Persuasion.   Classic
  research by cognitive and social psychologists suggests that subliminally
  presented stimuli can be perceived & can influence individuals' low-level
  cognitions.  More recent investigations suggest that such stimuli can also
  affect individuals' high-level cognitive processes, including attitudes,
  preferences, judgments, and even their behavior. http://www.csicop.org

# TRACKING MEDIA DISTORTION: NEW SHROUD POLLEN CLAIMS. The Associated Press
  reports on a new study of pollen taken from the Shroud of Turin.
  http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/science/DailyNews/turin990803.html
@ More accurate history of the Shroud - see a recent summary report:
  http://www.csicop.org/articles/shroud/index2.html

# ART BELL CLAIMS THREATS FROM TWO FORMER GUESTS:
  http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/1999/Jul-27-Tue-1999/news/11637056.html

# LAW ON ACCESS TO RESEARCH DATA ALARMS SCIENCE:
  http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/science/073199sci-foia-law.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiLinks:

@ The Tripp-Wire - Chinese, Israeli, Intel links to ZipperGate:
  http://www.sightings.com/politics4/wire.htm
# Center for Security Policy Calls For Increased Surveillance:
  http://www.security-policy.org/papers/1999/99-C86.html
@ Karl Marx: Antisemite-Racist-Satanist Extraordinare!
  http://www.sightings.com/politics4/marxsatan.htm
@ CROP CIRCLES, THEIR MEANING AND CONNECTIONS TO DREAMS:
  http://www.greatdreams.com/crpcirc.htm
# Who Needs Bionics? Recycled Humans Are Here:
  http://www.sightings.com/health3/bio.htm

@ TimeZone site: http://www.isbister.com/worldtime/
@ A Free Press for a Free People: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/
@ The Totally Trivia Search Engine: http://www.absolutetrivia.com/
@ The Artnet E-zine: http://www.artnet.com/magazine/frontpage.html

@ On-Line Books Page - a d

[CTRL] Propagandizing the Masses

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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from alt.conspiracy
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Propagandizing the Masses
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Date: Tue, 03 August 1999 10:06 AM EDT
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   Propagandizing the Masses

   The new International Public Information Group (IPI) whose birth
obviously originated in the intelligence community, creates a
government-wide propaganda mechanism.

   An ad says: CIA is looking for a few good "perception management"
analysts. Perception management is the study "of how foreign entities
attempt to mislead U.S. intelligence and policymakers on critical
national security issues." (A bait and switch ad).

   The new IPI charter says: "The intelligence community will play
a crucial role...for identifying hostile foreign propaganda
and deception that targets the US...The IPI core group is ordered
to "assist [U.S. government] efforts in defeating adversaries."

   The similarity of goals cited between the CIA want ad and the
language of the IPI charter suggest that IPI is the brain child of the
CIA -- just as an earlier near identical (and illegal) operation in
the Reagan Administration was guided and directed by the CIA.

   Since the CIA's covert operations rely on lying in all its
forms and since the intelligence community will play a crucial
role in IPI operations, we must conclude that the CIA will
direct this propaganda juggernaut.

   The IPI charter orders its core group to arrange "training
exercises at the National Defense University, National Foreign Affairs
Training Center, the Service War Colleges and other institutions."
Thus, propaganda -- domestic and foreign -- replaces the importance
of the "Counterinsurgency" training of another era.

   We are at war on reality with ourselves.

Ralph McGehee
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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Wednesday #1

1999-08-04 Thread ric carter

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# Total Solar Eclipse Said To Give Cosmic 'High'. PARIS (AFP) - Two minutes.
  That's all you have to make the most of what many astronomers regard as
  the experience of a life-time. There's nothing like it. So be prepared.
  Experts agree that a total solar eclipse, when the moon passes directly
  in front of the sun, has few rivals as a sensory "high", when the sights,
  sounds and feelings induced by the intricate cosmic dance rise to a
  dizzying climax. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/cosmic.htm

: Do eclipses make you orgasmic? Have aliens/deities/corporations engineered
us to respond sexually to eclipses? To what purpose? Do you cum solar/lunar?

# Mailmen Cross The Ethical Line. BUCHAREST, Romania (Reuters) Romanian
  postmen anxious to earn commissions by selling dark glasses for watching
  next week's solar eclipse have been selling them to impoverished pension-
  ers and the blind. http://news.excite.com/news/r/990804/10/odd-eclipse

: Do you make money from eclipses? What are the most profitable astronomical
phenomena? Do you cash in on comets, supernovae, occultations, apogees? How?

# British eclipse advice: Stay away from cows. LONDON (Reuters) Britons were
  warned to stay away from cows and light aircraft during next week's total
  eclipse of the sun. And Britain's biggest-selling tabloid fueled eclipse
  mania with 10 outrageous things to do during next Wednesday's two minutes
  of total darkness. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,105001787,00.html

: What would you most like to do during the eclipse? Will your soul be taken
by darkness? Will mass alien abductions occur? Will mad cows go on rampage??

# Also: Total Solar Eclipse Coming August 11, 1999:
  http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/TSE1999/TSE1999.html
# Solar Eclipse Views From Cities:
  http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/TSE1999/T99lookNA.html
# Our Sun Has Its Own Seasons:
  http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast22jul99_1.htm

# A totality view of solar eclipses. (TheHindu) A total solar eclipse ranks
  among the most exciting of celestial phenomena. Much is known about how
  solar eclipses occur, the dazzling sights they present. But what about a
  historic perspective of these eclipses? In other words a totality view of
  eclipses. http://indiaserver.com/thehindu/1999/07/30/stories/023i.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# China offers cash for sect leader. BEIJING (AP) China has put out a reward
  for information leading to the capture of the head of a banned meditation
  sect, now living in the U.S. Li Hongzhi, leader of the banned Falun Gong
  sect, topped a list of wanted criminals put out by police, who will begin
  paying rewards of more than $6,000 for tips leading to their arrest. China
  issued an arrest warrant Thursday for Li. It also asked the international
  police agency Interpol to issue an arrest warrant against him, but the
  France-based agency refused, because of a lack of criminal evidence.
  See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560557448-617

: What cult leaders d'ya want to bust? Should/can/will your cult leaders be
busted? What gov't leaders should be caught? What'll you do with'em? Why??

# Also: The Mystery Of Falun Dafa - China's Newly-Banned Religion:
  http://www.sightings.com/politics4/bannedrel.htm
# FAR EASTERN ECONOMIC REVIEW REPORTS ON FALUN GONG:
  http://www.feer.com/Restricted/index_p1.html

# Interpol Rejects China's Falun Gong Request (Reuters)
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990803/07/international-china-interpol
# China Sets Reward For Arrest Of Falun Gong Leader (Reuters)
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990804/01/international-religion-china
# China Jails Two Dissidents For Subversion (Reuters)
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990802/05/international-rights-china

# China orders arrest of Falun Gong leader, destroys books (CNN) The 'enemy
  of civilization': http://cnn.com:80/WORLD/asiapcf/9907/29/falun.gong.02/
# China destroys books of Falun Gong group (Spokane.net)
  http://www.spokane.net:80/news-story-body.asp?Date=072999&ID=s614114

# U.S. won't extradite sect leader. Sect appeals to U.S. for help. (CNN)
  http://cnn.com:80/WORLD/asiapcf/9907/30/falun.gong.01/index.html
# Washington has been critical of Beijing's crackdown on Falun Gong.
  http://deseretnews.com:80/dn/view/1,1249,100013344,00.html?
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EXTRATERRESTRIALS MAY CAUSE REVOLUTION IN CHINA

SHANGHAI - The largest political group in China outside the Communist Party
is Falun Gong that attempts to improve a person's health through exercise,
mediation, and contac

[CTRL] New Flick Opens Today: "DICK"

1999-08-04 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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DICK, opens in theatres across
the country Wednesday, August 4th.


DICK

THE UNMAKING OF THE PRESIDENT
HE WAS TRICKY.  THEY WERE BETTER.

After taking a wrong turn on a White House tour, witless teens
Besty Jobs (Kirsten Dunst) and Arlene Lorenzo (Michelle Williams)
stumble across a room packed full of presidential secrets.  In an
effort to find out what exactly the girls know, the
Commander-in-Chief "Tricky Dick"  Nixon (Dan Hedaya) himself
appoints them as official White House dog walkers.  Suddenly and
accidentally, the two girls are swept up in the political
intrigue of the world's most famous break-in:  Watergate.  As the
clueless duo are plunged deeper into their Washington adventure,
not even all the president's men can stop Betsy and Arlene from
unwittingly changing the course of history forever.

"Kirsten Dunst and Michelle Williams are incredibly winning."
Glenn Kenny, PREMIERE MAGAZINE

"DICK is hilarious!  A wildly funny spin on Watergate.  A hip
irreverent take on one of the great political mysteries.  You'll
love Dick!  The funniest political farce in years." Sarah
Edwards, NBC NEWS

"A disarming clever spoof.  Nimble teamwork with Dunst and
Williams.  Williams is especially engaging." Peter Travers,
ROLLING STONE

DICK opens Wednesday, August 4th.  Moviegoers will want to see
this political satire starring Kirsten Dunst, Michelle Williams,
Dave Foley, Teri Garr and Dan Hedaya. To see where DICK is
playing near you, click here:
http://www.spe.sony.com/movies/dick/etickets.html

Break in to the official Web Site for DICK at:
http://www.sony.com/dick, and meet the costume designer Deborah
Everton with interview clips and wardrobe sketches.

Send Postcards!  Dress the Betsy and Arlene retro-Paper dolls in
the "FLAGulous" frocks that rewrote history with style.

Try to answer the 70's trivia stumpers using genuine DICK wit and
patriotic brainwaves.

Bake the Hello Dolly cookies and submit your own DICK dessert
recipes.

Enter the DICK Sweepstakes to win a trip to Washington D.C., a
tour of the White House, a hotel stay at The Watergate, a Sony
Handycam and other great prizes at:
http://www.sony.com/dick/sweepstakes.html

Enjoy the movie!

-- The Scoop Staff @ Sony Pictures Entertainment -

(C) 1999 Columbia TriStar Interactive.  All Rights Reserved.


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan

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This is a satire from Onion. It is not a true story.

Om
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In a message dated 8/4/99 12:38:25 AM, you wrote:

> >SPRINGFIELD, IL--With the state legislature's passage of a bill last
> >week allowing police officers to cite Led Zeppelin bumper stickers as
> >probable cause for a vehicular search for drugs, Illinois became the
> >13th state to recognize rock-and-roll-related decorations as sufficient
> >legal grounds for bypassing the need for a search warrant.

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[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Trains Death's Case

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan





From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Then I will be more than happy to mail a check for $25 tomorrow. I wish it
could be more.  These women deserve everything good. I can only offer
prayers, a couple of bucks and some words in the next issue of FTW.

Mike Ruppert

-Original Message-
From:   Mark Keesee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 04, 1999 1:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Trains Death's Case

From: Mark Keesee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mike,

DEFAMATION SUIT
Pat Matriciana is the only defendant but it is Jean Duffey
and Linda Ives that are on trial. They had total control of the
video - script and all. They have prepared the defense - totally.

TRAIN DEATHS SUIT
Linda and Jean were preparing to file a civil suit against
the killers of Kevin and Don when when Lane and Campbell filed
this liable suit against Pat. If Jean and Linda lose the defamation
suit, there will be no civil suit. In Jean's words, "they will never
let us recover."

DONATIONS
The Kevin Ives Civil Justice Foundation is Linda's account. If
you are going to send money, send it there. You are guaranteed
the money will go toward bringing the killers to justice. They
are adamantly opposed to making one penny profit from anything
associated with the story.

mark


Mike Ruppert wrote:
>
> From: "Mike Ruppert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Will somebody please give me a straight answer here. I can do an hour's
> worth or research myself but I think we all need to know. And if somebody
> knows off the top of their heads please inform the rest of us.
>
> I have been solicited for money to support, or so I thought, Jean Duffy
and
> the Ives family and the other victims of the train deaths case. Closer
> reading leads me to suspect that the money is going directly to
Matriciana.
>
> Leaving the debate aside that Matriciana should be vindicated for the half
> truths he did tell (leaving out Casey, North and Bush) it just ain't right
> to mislead people. Just who is the Kevin Ives Civil Justice Foundation? Is
> the Ives family on trial?
>
> Is it true that the only defendant is Pat Matriciana? If I write a check
for
> $25 bucks who's getting the money? Nobody has answered me on this. Are
there
> any other defendants in the case than Matriciana? I feel like I am being
> misled here and I get very unsociable when I am misled.
>
> Mike Ruppert
> www.copvcia.com
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[CTRL] Fwd: BIG BLUESBUSTER - A new Annex Research newsletter (Aug. 2, 1999)

1999-08-04 Thread Kris Millegan






FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA

As a Truth in Media reader, and thus obviously a "Cyber netizen," thought
you may be interested in the enclosed announcement intended for
INDIVIDUALS, not corporations, who follow the Big Blue...

Annex Research is pleased to announce a new research product - the BIG
BLUESBUSTER - a business Newsletter for IBM Watchers, written and edited by
the "Dean of IBM Watchers," as the Enterprise Systems Journal of New York
called the Annex Research president in a feature story on his career.

"This publication has been created in direct response to many requests
which we have been receiving from IBM employees, individual investors,
webmasters of various Internet sites which deal with Big Blue topics, and
other interested people - all asking us provide a business analysis of IBM
designed for specific needs of INDIVIDUALS, not corporations," said Bob
Djurdjevic, Annex Research president.  "Well, now we have done just that."

To find our more about the BIG BLUESBUSTER, or to check out some sample
issues, please visit our Web site: www.djurdjevic.com, where you can also
find other subsription and pricing details.

Media inquiries should be directed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
  August 2, 1999

  ANNOUNCING...  

  A Newsletter for IBM Watchers by the "Dean of
  IBM Watchers"

  BIG BLUESBUSTER
  Published by Annex Research
  -

  * Is Lou's Big Blue giving you the blues after years of
  toil and loyalty you've given the Armonk brass?

  * Armonk's creed has gone from Pride to Greed:
  Insiders sell millions of dollars of stock; IBM pension
  fund becomes a "Kill the Baby Boomers"-kitty.

  * Respect for the individual? What's that? A line from
  "The Way We Were" movie? 

  * A French king, Louis XIV (1638-1715), once
  declared: "L’état, c’est moi!" IBM's king, Louis XIX of
  Armonk, might as well have declared, "Le Big Bleu, c’est
  moi!"

  * The same French king (Louis XIV), was not satisfied
  with only one royal palace (the Louvre). So he had 
  another built for him (the Versailles).   So has Louis
  XIX of Armonk.

  * Are you "mad as hell and won't take it anymore? 

  ...Then learn how to fight back - subscribe to the
  new Annex Research's new newsletter: 

   The BIG BLUESBUSTER

  ...written by Bob Djurdjevic, the world's top IBM
 business analyst, whom the Enterprise Systems Journal, a
 magazine focusing on IBM, called "the dean of a select
 community of professionals called IBM Watchers."

  * Then, bust out of your blues and into action... 

  * Tell the Big Blue's "Louis XIX of Armonk" that you're
  seeing red: "Scrap Your Pension Declaration! No
  More Taxation Without Representation!" 

  * And then put a coat of red paint over the Big Blue
  boss: "Louis XIX, vous n'êtres pas le Big Bleu!
  You're just a bad mimic of the once great Big Blue."
  (check out the image at our Web site)

TO SUBSCRIBE - visit the Annex Research Web site: www.djurdjevic.com.
-

 ABOUT ANNEX RESEARCH AND BOB DJURDJEVIC

 Annex Research, publisher of the BIG BLUESBUSTER is one
 of the best recognized and most often quoted market intelligence
 and computer industry consulting firms in the world. Founded in
 1978, it serves a select clientele of senior IT executives,
 investors and IT lessors, and has helped to shape the
 competitive strategies of some of the industry’s most prominent
 companies. 

 Unlike many in the industry, the world's premier "IBM
 Watcher," Bob Djurdjevic, president of Annex Research, had
 the art of business practiced before starting to preach. He spent
 8 years with IBM in the early 1970s, and had also run his
 own computer trading company before starting Annex Research.

 What sets Djurdjevic apart from other IT analysts/consultants?
 A 21-year, PROVEN track record of excellence. The
 FORTUNE magazine, for example, described his analysis of
 IBM as "prescient," and Annex Research as a "respected
 consulting firm." The Computer Weekly of London called
 Djurdjevic "Father of Knowledge" in one personal profile, and
 the "Giant Killer" in another one (the latter was in reference to
 the role Djurdjevic's critical editorials played in the former
 IBM chairman's, John Akers', eventual dismissal).  The New
 York-based Information Week ran an article on him headlined
 "Watching Those Who Watch IBM." Last but not least, the late
 IBM chairman, Tom Watson, Jr., publicly acknowledged
 Djurdjevic's contribution to his 1990 bestseller.

 In short, Djurdjevic has been tracking, analyzing and consulting
 in this industry longer than most analysts have even been in the
 business. His keen business sense, developed through practical
 hands-on experience, accompanied with his extensive
 understanding of the global IT marketplace have made him a
 key resource for

[CTRL] Total Bannishment of Fire Arms Near (fwd)

1999-08-04 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

Many of us have long believed that the media's incessant push for
regulation of firearms was only a precursor to the real
objective, i.e., total banishment of guns.

Well, it was only a matter of time before the media began
demonstrating this posturing, as is evident in the below Time
editorial.

Anybody know what time it is???


From:

http://cgi.pathfinder.com:80/time/magazine/articles/0,3266,28831-1,00.html


Get Rid of the Damned Things

BY ROGER ROSENBLATT


As terrible as last week's shooting in atlanta was, as terrible
as all the gun killings of the past few months have been, one has
the almost satisfying feeling that the country is going through
the literal death throes of a barbaric era and that mercifully
soon, one of these monstrous episodes will be the last. High
time. My guess, in fact, is that the hour has come and gone--that
the great majority of Americans are saying they favor gun control
when they really mean gun banishment. Trigger locks, waiting
periods, purchase limitations, which may seem important
corrections at the moment, will soon be seen as mere tinkering
with a machine that is as good as obsolete. Marshall McLuhan said
that by the time one notices a cultural phenomenon, it has
already happened. I think the country has long been ready to
restrict the use of guns, except for hunting rifles and shotguns,
and now I think we're prepared to get rid of the damned things
entirely--the handguns, the semis and the automatics.

Those who claim otherwise tend to cite America's enduring love
affair with guns, but there never was one. The image of
shoot-'em-up America was mainly the invention of gunmaker Samuel
Colt, who managed to convince a malleable 19th century public
that no household was complete without a firearm--"an armed
society is a peaceful society." This ludicrous aphorism, says
historian Michael Bellesiles of Emory University, turned 200
years of Western tradition on its ear. Until 1850, fewer than 10%
of U.S. citizens had guns. Only 15% of violent deaths between
1800 and 1845 were caused by guns. Reputedly wide-open Western
towns, such as Dodge City and Tombstone, had strict gun-control
laws; guns were confiscated at the Dodge City limits.

If the myth of a gun-loving America is merely the product of gun
salesmen, dime-store novels, movies and the National Rifle
Association (NRA)--which, incidentally, was not opposed to gun
control until the 1960s, when gun buying sharply increased--it
would seem that creating a gun-free society would be fairly easy.
But the culture itself has retarded such progress by creating and
embellishing an absurd though appealing connection among guns,
personal power, freedom and beauty. The old western novels
established a cowboy corollary to the Declaration of Independence
by depicting the cowboy as a moral loner who preserves the peace
and his own honor by shooting faster and surer than the
competition. The old gangster movies gave us opposite versions of
the same character. Little Caesar is simply an illegal Lone
Ranger, with the added element of success in the free market. In
more recent movies, guns are displayed as art objects, people die
in balletic slow motion, and right prevails if you own "the most
powerful handgun in the world." I doubt that any of this nonsense
causes violence, but after decades of repetition, it does invoke
boredom. And while I can't prove it, I would bet that
gun-violence entertainment will soon pass too, because people
have had too much of it and because it is patently false.

Before one celebrates the prospect of disarmament, it should be
acknowledged that gun control is one of those issues that are
simultaneously both simpler and more complicated than it appears.
Advocates usually point to Britain, Australia and Japan as their
models, where guns are restricted and crime is reduced. They do
not point to Switzerland, where there is a gun in every home and
crime is practically nonexistent. Nor do they cite as sources
criminology professor Gary Kleck of Florida State University,
whose studies have shown that gun ownership reduces crime when
gun owners defend themselves, or Professor John R. Lott Jr. of
the University of Chicago Law School, whose research has
indicated that gun regulation actually encourages crime.

The constitutional questions raised by gun control are serious as
well. In a way, the anti-gun movement mirrors the humanitarian
movement in international politics. Bosnia, Kosovo and Rwanda
have suggested that the West, the U.S. in particular, is heading
toward a politics of human rights that supersedes the politics of
established frontiers and, in some cases, laws. Substitute
private property for frontiers and the Second Amendment for laws,
and one begins to see that the politics of humanitarianism
requires a trade-off involving the essential underpinnings of
American life. To tell Americans what they can or cannot own and
do in their homes is always a tricky business. As for the Second
Amend

[CTRL] Y2K and the FEMA Nightmare

1999-08-04 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

from http://www.heartsongs.org/FEMA.htm


 FEMA: THE SECRET GOVERNMENT
 by
 Harry V. Martin, with research assistance from David Caul


 Some people have referred to it as the "secret government"
of the United States.  It is not an elected body; it does not
involve itself in public disclosures; and it even has a
quasi-secret budget in the billions of dollars.
 This government organization has more power than the
President of the United States or the Congress.  It has the power
to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain
citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial.  It can
seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can
suspend the Constitution.
 Not only is it the most powerful entity in the United
States, but it was not even created under Constitutional law by
the Congress.  It was a product of a Presidential Executive
Order.
 No, it is not the U.S. military nor the Central
Intelligence Agency; they are subject to Congress.  The
organization is called FEMA, which stands for the Federal
Emrgency Management Agency.
 Originally conceived in the Nixon Administration, it was
refined by President Jimmy Carter and given teeth in the Ronald
Reagan and George Bush Administrations.
 FEMA had one original concept when it was created -- to
assure the survivability of the United States government in the
event of a nuclear attack on this nation.  It was also provided
with the task of being a federal coordinating body during times
of domestic disasters, such as earthquakes, floods and
hurricanes.
 Its awesome powers grew under the tutelage of people like
Lt. Col. Oliver North and General Richard Secord, the architects
on the Iran-Contra scandal and the looting of America's savings
and loan institutions.  FEMA has even been given control of the
State Defense Forces, a rag-tag, often considered neo-Nazi,
civilian army that will substitute for the National Guard, if the
Guard is called to duty overseas.
 Though it may be the most powerful organization in the
United States, many people don't know it even exists.  But it has
crept into our private lives.  Even mortgage papers contain
FEMA's name in small print if the property in question is near a
flood plain.
 FEMA was deeply involved in the Los Angeles riots and the
1989 Loma Prieta earthquake in the San Francisco Bay Area.
 Some of the black helicopter traffic reported throughout the
United States, but mainly in the West (California, Washington,
Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and Colorado), are flown by FEMA
personnel.
 FEMA has been given responsibility for many new disasters
including urban forest fires, home heating emergencies, refugee
situations, urban riots, and emergency planning for nuclear and
toxic incidents.  In the West, it works in conjunction with the
Sixth Army.
 FEMA was created in a series of Executive Orders.  A
Presidential Executive Order, whether Constitutional or not,
becomes law simply by its publication in the Federal Registry.
Congress is bypassed.
 Executive Order Number 12148 created the Federal Emergency
Management Agency that is to interface with the Department of
Defense for civil defense planning and funding.  An "emergency
czar" was appointed.
 FEMA has only spent about 6 percent of its budget on
national emergencies.  The bulk of their funding has been used
for the construction of secret underground facilities to assure
continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or
domestic.
 Executive Order Number 12656 appointed the National
Security Council as the principal body to consider emergency
powers.  This allows the government to increase domestic
intelligence and surveillance of U.S. citizens and would restrict
the freedom of movement within the United States and grant the
government the right to isolate large groups of civilians.  The
National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take
control of U.S. air space and all ports of entry.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in
every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of
FEMA's Civil Security Division, stated in a 1983 conference that
he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of
individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of
civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as
well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to
U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis."
FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to
incorporate: The National Security Act of 1947, which allows for
the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and
other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the
requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities;
the 1950 Defense Production Act, which gives the President
sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy; the Act of
August 29, 1916, which authorizes the Sec

[CTRL] Not What You Know but Who You Know

1999-08-04 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

 -Caveat Lector-

Back in April, the Justice Department declined to prosecute former CIA
Director John Deutch for keeping secret files on his unsecured personal
computer at home after he was no longer CIA Director.   He was just reckless,
not criminal.  In fact, Mr. Deutch was found to have 3l secret files in the
unsecured personal computer in his home.  After a full year of investigation,
it was decided no prosecution was necessary.

Good for Mr. Deutch.  No problem.

Now let's take a look at a really serious problem.  That's when a guy moves a
file from the secure computer to his desk computer to work on it.  He doesn't
take it home, but he follows a practice that has been going on in his
organization for donkeys' years.  Now this guy should be hung from a lamp
post.  You can see he is oriental.  That's the giveaway.  We're not friends
with China right now, so anyone with oriental features is obviously a threat
to Democracy.  I have a friend who was sent to Topaz (an internment camp for
those Japanese we just knew would aid our enemies during World War II).  I
believe she was nine years old at the time, but you never know when some
precocious child is going to sell us down the river.  Washington, D.C. is a
madhouse, and the inmates are in charge of our country.  Still logic
prevails.  Let's see now--Classified documents in home computer--that's okay.
 Classified documents at work station--Baaad.  I think I've got it.
Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment

1999-08-04 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 08/04/1999 4:38:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  >"We've known for years that there was a direct correlation between
  >the presence of a Led Zeppelin bumper sticker and the likelihood of
  >that vehicle containing a controlled substance like marijuana," said
  >DeKalb County Sheriff Ronald Bauer. "However, it wasn't until last
  >Thursday that it was within our power to act on this knowledge to
  >make a drug-possession arrest." >>

It probably isn't smart to put your likes, dislikes, political views,
religious affiliation or even favorite sports team on display anywhere on
your automobile.  Considering the number of certifiable, well armed kooks
running loose, you never know what might really set one of them off.  One
look at a "Honk if you love Jesus" bumper sticker might send a fanatical
athiest right over the edge.  As for our evaporating rights as citizens, the
courts that our founding fathers thought would be the protectors of our
constitutional rights are selling us out so fast one can only assume they
have found it enormously profitable to do so.   Prudy

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[CTRL] Mt Weather -- FEMA's Y2K "Bunker" ?

1999-08-04 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

 "In 1975, Sen. John Tunney (D-Calif.) charged that Mount Weather
held dossiers on 100,000 or more Americans.  A sophisticated computer
system gives the installation access to detailed information on the lives
of virtually every American citizen, Tunney claimed.
 "Mount Weather personnel stonewalled question after question in two
Senate hearings.
  "I don't understand what they're trying to hide out there," said
Douglas
Lea, staff director of the Senate Subcommittee on Constitutional Rights.
"Mount Weather remains closed to us."
  "Tunney complained, 'Mount Weather is out of control.' "


 MOUNT WEATHER:
 FALLOUT SHELTER OF THE RULING CLASS

 In the best-selling 1962 spy thriller SEVEN DAYS IN MAY, the
Joint Chiefs of Staff plot to overthrow the U.S. president. Their
conspiracy centers on a place called Mount Thunder, a secret
subterranean command post where government leaders would go in
the event of a nuclear attack.
 On December 1, 1974, a TWA Boeing 727 jet crashed into a
fog-shrouded mountain in northern Virginia and burned, killing
all 92 persons aboard. Near the wreckage was a fenced government
reserve identified as Mount Weather.
 Mount Weather is a real place; eighty-five acres located
forty-five miles west of Washington and 1,725 feet above sea
level, near the town of Bluemont, Virginia.  In the event of all-
out war, an elite of civilian and military leaders are to be
taken to Mount Weather's cavernous underground shelter to become
the nucleus of a postwar American society.  The government has a
secret list of those persons it plans to save.
 The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) runs Mount
Weather. When it has to talk about the place, which is rare, it
calls it the "special facility."  Its more common name comes from
a weather station that the U.S. Department of Agriculture had
maintained on the mountain.
 The authors of SEVEN DAYS IN MAY, Fletcher Knebel and
Charles W. Bailey II, were Washington journalists who learned a
lot about the then-quite-secret post.  Few readers of Knebel and
Bailey's fiction could have imagined how close to the truth it
was. The novel gives detailed highway directions from Washington:
"... the Chrysler wheeled onto Route 50, heading away from
Washington ... In the jungle of neon lights and access roads at
Seven Corners, Corwin saw Scott bear right onto Route 7, the main
road to Leesburg.  The two cars moved slowly through Falls Church
before the traffic began to thin out and speed up At the fork
west of Leesburg, Scott bore right on Route 9, heading toward
Charles Town They began to climb toward the Blue Ridge, the
eastern rim of the Shenandoah Valley West of Hillboro, where
the road crossed the Blue Ridge before dropping into the valley
Scott turned left. Corwin followed him onto a black macadam
road that ran straight along the spine of the ridge.
 "...Because of his White House job, Corwin knew something
about this road that few other Americans did.  Virginia 120
appeared to be nothing more than a better-than-average Blue Ridge
byway, but it ran past Mount Thunder, where an underground
installation provided one of the several bases from which the
President could run the nation in the event of a nuclear attack
on Washington."
 Knebel and Bailey disguised the directions slightly. You
continue on Route 7 west of Leesburg, turning left on Route 601
just west of Bluemont.  It's Virginia Route 601 that runs right
up to the gates of Mount Weather.  Residents have long known
there is something funny about that road; it is always the first
road cleared after a snowstorm.
 At one point, the government asked the local paper not to
print any articles about the facility. But it is all but
impossible to keep such a place secret. The Appalachian Trail
runs right by Mount Weather, and hikers can get close enough to
see signs and flashing lights.  One sign reads: "All persons and
vehicles entering hereon are liable to search. Potographing,
making notes, drawings, maps or graphic representations of this
area or its activities are prohibited."  In the late 1960s an
unidentified hippie is supposed to have stumbled upon the
facility and sketched it from a tree.  His drawing turned up in
the QUICKSILVER TIMES, an underground newspaper in Washington.
 Residents also tell of the time a hunt club chased a fox
onto the site and triggered an alarm.  The club had to go to the
main gate to get the dogs back.
 After the TWA crash, a spokesman "politely declined to
comment on what Mt. Weather was used for, how many people work
there, or how long it has been in its current use," the
WASHINGTON POST reported.  The POST published a picture of the
facility, citing far-fetched speculation that Mount Weather's
radio antennas may have interfered with the jet's radar and
caused the disaster.
 You don't get into Mount Weather without an invitation.  The
entrance is said to be like the door 

[CTRL] EX-IM BANK NOD TIED TO JOHN HUANG--Investor's Business Daily (fwd)

1999-08-04 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

NATIONAL ISSUE

EX-IM BANK NOD TIED TO JOHN
HUANG Weaver's Contacts With
Fund-Raiser Questioned

Date: 8/4/99
Author: Paul Sperry

President Clinton's appointee to a critical seat on the board of
the Export-Import Bank has close ties to a crooked fund-raiser
linked to China.

China is Ex-Im Bank's second-largest customer.

During the Clinton years, the bank has given more than $5.5
billion in loans to China to help it buy U.S. technology and
equipment for power plants and other projects. The loans were
OK'd despite proof that China sold nuclear-related equipment to
Pakistan and other countries that worry U.S. security experts.

The White House hopes the Senate will quickly confirm D. Vanessa
Weaver to fill one of three vacant seats on Ex-Im's five-member
board. The lack of quorum is holding up $2.3 billion in loans.

As a Clinton aide, Weaver often was in touch with Democratic
Party fund- raiser Jian-Nan ''John'' Huang when he worked at the
Commerce Department.

In May, Huang agreed to plead guilty to a fund-raising felony
charge in exchange for his help in an ongoing Justice Department
probe of 1996 campaign finance fraud. He has yet to enter a
guilty plea.

Weaver and Huang exchanged at least 26 phone calls over a
17-month period in 1994 and 1995, records show.

Weaver also reached out to Huang in October 1996 when he hid from
U.S. marshals for a week to avoid testifying in a lawsuit brought
by Judicial Watch Inc. The public-interest law firm claims that
Huang was involved in an illegal scheme at Commerce to sell seats
on trade trips for Democratic donations.

''She (Weaver) called my wife in California,'' Huang testified
after authorities finally caught up with him. ''As a courtesy, I
returned her call to her home.''

Huang explained that Weaver and he are just ''good friends.''
Asked about her again in another Judicial Watch deposition in
April, Huang took the Fifth.

Weaver, deputy White House director of presidential personnel,
declined repeated requests for an interview.

The Senate Banking Committee canceled a Friday hearing on Weaver
and other appointees. It hasn't reset a date. The Senate breaks
for a month starting next week.

Chairman Phil Gramm, R-Texas, isn't likely to quiz Weaver, a
former computer consultant, about her ties to Huang. ''I don't
expect it to be anything that Sen. Gramm brings up,'' spokeswoman
Christi Harlan said.

Ignoring the issue would be a mistake, one Hill investigator
says.

''We're going to reward someone who's all over John Huang's
call-back slips,'' he said.

The connection doesn't stop there, he says.

As often as three times a week, Huang would leave his Commerce
office carrying a folder or briefcase and walk across the street
to the Willard Hotel. There he'd visit the Washington office of
Stephens Inc., an Arkansas-based brokerage.

Weaver's father, Vernon Weaver, headed the branch. A fellow
Arkansan, he and Clinton go back more than 20 years.

The elder Weaver let Huang use an empty Stephens office to pick
up overnight packages, make phone calls and fax documents.

His secretary, Paula Greene, testified before the Senate in 1997
that Weaver gave her strict orders to hide the setup. For
instance, she says Weaver told her not to leave detailed phone
messages for Huang when she called to alert him to a package or
fax.

Phone records show Vernon Weaver made at least 27 calls to Huang
from July 1994 to November 1995. Over that same period, Vanessa
Weaver made at least 23 calls to Huang - two on the same day as
her father.

The congressional investigator, who wished to go unnamed,
suspects Vanessa Weaver was a White House ''go- between'' for her
father and Huang. Her White House office is just across 15th St.
from the Willard Hotel and the Commerce building.

Records show that at least 16 faxes sent in 1994 and 1995 from
the Stephens office went to Lippo Group units in Jakarta,
Indonesia; Hong Kong; and Los Angeles. Huang worked for the
foreign conglomerate before joining Commerce. Lippo has partnered
with Stephens on deals for more than a decade.

The government official appeared to still be conducting business
with his old firm - a possible breach of federal conflict rules.

But there's a more troubling aspect to his Willard activities.

Several months before Huang joined Commerce, China Resources
Holding Co., a front for Chinese military intelligence, bought a
large stake in a Lippo unit called Hongkong Chinese Bank.

That made Lippo equal partners with Beijing's communist regime.
''Huang himself may possibly have had a direct financial
relationship with the (Chinese) government,'' said the final
report of the so-called Thompson committee, headed by Sen. Fred
Thompson, R-Tenn., which probed foreign fund-raising in the 1996
Clinton-Gore campaign.

The CIA briefed China- born Huang (who got a security clearance
without a full background check) at least 37 times at Commerce.
He got hundreds of classified documents on topics such as
U.S.-China techno

[CTRL] Clinton's Energy Scandal (fwd)

1999-08-04 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

From:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_smith/19990803_xcsof_clintons_e.shtml

While Americans suffer through another hot summer, power
companies are struggling to keep up with the demand for
electricity.  Brown outs, cut backs and major rate hikes are
expected all across America as power demands reach an all time
high.

However, across the Pacific, Indonesians are struggling to pay
American power producers for electricity that is not needed, and
which they cannot afford.  According to newly released documents
from the U.S. Commerce Dept., 26 U.S. sponsored electric power
projects are on the block because the Indonesian state power
company, PLN, is bankrupt.

The crown jewel of electricity projects in Indonesia is the huge
Mission Energy/GE PAITON coal-fired electric plant in East Java.
In 1994, Mission Energy, part of the California Edison power
consortium, put great faith in the Clinton administration and Ron
Brown to reach Indonesian dictator Suharto.  Mission CEO John
Bryson even wrote Brown, thanking him for the overwhelming
efforts from 1994 through 1995 to get the Indonesians to buy
their Paiton bid.

Paiton was billed as the first "private" electric plant in
Indonesia.  However, "private" ownership in Indonesia means owned
and operated by the Suharto "First Family".  The Indonesian
company that owns, operates and fuels the Paiton plant under a 30
year, no cut, contract is PT Batu Hitam Perkasa, owned by
Suharto's daughter, Titek Prabowo and her brother-in-law, Hashim
Djojohadikusumo.

According to the Commerce Dept., ".75%" of the Paiton project was
reserved for Suharto's daughter Prabowo.  Prabowo's cut amounted
to an instant $15 million.  Her kick-back, along with a cut for
"brother-in-law" Hashim and various other Suharto relatives, was
provided up front, in cash, in the form of a $50 million loan.
The $50 million loan was to be paid back by the profits
(dividends) returned from the $2.6 billion Paiton project.

Since there are no profits, there is no pay back.

According to the 1994 Commerce Dept. documents, the Asian
Development Bank (ADB) was "skiddish" about providing a $50
million bribe to the Suharto family from the U.S. taxpayers. The
reluctance to participate in an illegal pay-off, led GE and
Mission Energy to seek Clinton help.

  "Although the ADB financing is only $50 million, GE views the
   ADB component to be important because it has a long-term
   interest in having a multinational bank support the project.
   Furthermore, if ADB rejected financing, EXIM and the
   commercial banks involved in the deal would ask questions."

Obviously asking questions would not be good for any project with
a built in $50 million kick-back for the local dictator.

In 1999, the entire $2.6 billion dollar project is on the brink
of failure.  The corrupt deals with the former dictator of
Indonesia are collapsing faster than the Indonesian economy. The
good citizens of Indonesia have learned of the "First Family"
take-over of their national resources and they do not approve.

PLN electric officials, fearing for their lives, are pointing
fingers at Suharto.  Ex-PLN President Djteng Marsudi has
repeatedly stated he was forced to sign unfairly priced
contracts, including Paiton.

In August 1998, the Indonesian melt-down caused Mission Energy to
panic and again seek aid from the Clinton administration. The
newly released documents include a briefing of current Secretary
of Commerce William Daley for a meeting with Mission Energy CEO
Edward Muller.

  "Mr. Muller will raise his concerns about developments in Asia
   in general and about the Paiton project in particular.  He
   will probably attempt to enlist your support for the Paiton
   project.  Given competing interest by other U.S. firms, we
   cannot commit to this particular project."

Translation:  Ron Brown is long dead and Bill Clinton is not
anxious to cuddle up to the Suharto family for fear of raising
questions about donations from Indonesian billionaire Moctar
Riady.

  "Ex-Im (Export Import Bank) is the guarantor for $540 million
   in the pre-completion phase.  OPIC is the senior lender
   (provides guarantees for banks to lend) and insurance provider
   for the post-completion phase ($200 million).  (Mission did
   not take out political risk insurance from OPIC or Ex-Im.)"

Translation:  Mission Energy's mistake in not seeking the
"political" insurance was a calculated risk that will cost
stock-holders and customers.  Corporate losses overseas will have
to be made up with lower profits at home and higher rates for
CalEdison customers.

In fact, according to the Commerce Dept., there are U.S.
companies with contracts inside Indonesia who have an interest in
the failure of the Paiton power plant:

  "Both Ex-Im and OPIC confirmed that if the 1200 MW Paiton
   project were to go on line, it would most likely wipe out any
   further GOI (Government of Indonesia) need for other power
   plants.  Thus, several other major 

[CTRL] Clinton coverup of laser attack - Lt Jack Daly on radio (fwd)

1999-08-04 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

From:

Lt Jack Daly's new web site:

www.ltjackdaly.com


US Navy Lt Jack Daly - a newsmaking interview with active duty US
Navy officer

Teusday on the Jerry Hughes radio show Lt Daly's incident is
reported in Chapter 2 of Bill Gertz's book, Betrayal.

___

"To sin by silence when we should protest makes cowards out of men."

by Ella Wheeler Wilcox



The White House, Department of State, Department of Defense (DOD)
and the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) have orchestrated a
cover-up of an Act of War in U.S. waters in which a U.S. Naval
Intelligence officer and a Canadian Air Force pilot were
permanently wounded.  As a result our National Security has been
compromised, and it continues to be on an almost daily basis,
with impunity.  Yet once again the Clinton Administration chose
to hide the truth, this time because the perpetrators were
Russian and the "Cold War" is over.  I know for a fact that this
is not entirely true, and I literally have the scars from this
hostile act committed in U.S. waters to prove it.  I firmly
believe that our National Security is in jeopardy as a result.
Considering the magnitude of this incident one would have to be
incapable of logical thought to conclude that the final decision
wasn't made by the President himself.  Therefore, it should come
as no surprise to those who have faithfully served in the
military of their country, that a man who failed to heed the call
himself, who is now called the "Commander-in-Chief," would
hesitate to abandon one of his own men.

My name is Lieutenant Jack Daly.  I am an active duty regular
U.S. Naval Intelligence Officer who, prior to my transfer to San
Diego last year, was stationed at the Canadian Pacific Maritime
Forces Command Base, Esquimalt, Victoria, British Columbia,
Canada.  My intelligence liaison assignment with the Canadian
Armed Forces was under the auspices of the Chief of Naval
Operations/Intelligence Directorate (CNO/N2) Foreign Intelligence
Liaison Officer (FILO) program, managed by the Office of Naval
Intelligence (ONI).  I was wounded along with a Canadian Air
Force pilot, Capt. Patrick Barnes, aboard a Canadian helicopter
on 4 April, 1997, when we were lased (shot/targeted) with a laser
by the Russians while on an ONI tasked surveillance flight over
the Russian merchant ship Kapitan Man just five nautical miles
north of Port Angeles, WA in the Strait of Juan de Fuca.  As
result of this surveillance, both Captain Barnes and I suffered
irreparable eye injuries resulting in permanent retinal damage.
Captain Barnes has been permanently grounded from this incident
and has lost all flight qualifications.  He will never fly again.
Both of us suffer constant agonizing pain in our eyes and our
vision continues to worsen from this incident with little
expected relief as there is no known effective medical treatment.
Pentagon spokesman, Ken Bacon, reported on 26 June 1997, that our
injuries were healed. This is absolutely false!

Capt. Barnes and I were victims of a an act of war, or an act of
terrorism and at a minimum a crime. The use of lasers to ward off
surveillance is a violation of the "Certain Conventional Weapons
Convention, Protocol - IV."  The intelligence community has
evidence that this vessel and others like her are associated with
the Russian military.  Therefore, this incident can be considered
an act of war. Since it has affected the policies of two nations
(Canada and the U.S.), by definition it could be considered a
terrorist act.  Under current federal law it is a felony to point
lasers at aircraft.  It is entirely possible that someone onboard
the Kapitan Man was using a laser designed to record the acoustic
signature of the propeller on the USS Ohio, which was outbound on
the surface at the time. When we over-flew the KAPITAN MAN it was
turned on us knowing that it would cause harm. This was the
tactic that the Russians had used numerous times in the past.

These claims are not without substantiation and there is
documentation to support the events as they have transpired.
The recent release of BETRAYAL How the Clinton Administration
Undermined American Security, by Bill Gertz of the Washington
Times, reveals the secret decisions made by White House and State
Department officials, that allowed the Russian crew of the
KAPITAN MAN to get away with committing a hostile act in U.S.
waters.  This website provides further evidence revealing how
CAPT Barnes and I were betrayed in the process by the Clinton
Administration.


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Re: [CTRL] Pound, Cake, & Eat It Too

1999-08-04 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

>> The Times disclosed that [Conservative Party leader] Ashcroft's
>> name appeared in a series of files kept by the US Drug Enforcement
>> Agency (DEA) as part of its investigations into drug trafficking
>> and money laundering in Belize. It later transpired that cocaine
>> was found on at least two ships sailing under the Belize “flag of
>> convenience” in 1994, under a shipping register in which Mr.
>> Ashcroft had a 50 percent stake until earlier this year.

Well, I suppose it may be good for SOME to know that the way things work
hasn't changed much there OR here since the "good old" Reagan-Bush/Thatcher
days.

As in the '20s and '30s, crime is king: "Goodbye A. Carnegie, hello A.
Capone."

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[CTRL] Fwd: Adios Fourth Amendment

1999-08-04 Thread Das GOAT

 >SPRINGFIELD, IL--With the state legislature's passage of a bill last
 >week allowing police officers to cite Led Zeppelin bumper stickers as
 >probable cause for a vehicular search for drugs, Illinois became the
 >13th state to recognize rock-and-roll-related decorations as sufficient
 >legal grounds for bypassing the need for a search warrant.



 >SPRINGFIELD, IL--With the state legislature's passage of a bill last
 >week allowing police officers to cite Led Zeppelin bumper stickers as
 >probable cause for a vehicular search, Illinois became the 13th state
 >to recognize classic-rock-related automobile decorations as grounds
 >for waiver of a warrant.
 >
 >"We've known for years that there was a direct correlation between
 >the presence of a Led Zeppelin bumper sticker and the likelihood of
 >that vehicle containing a controlled substance like marijuana," said
 >DeKalb County Sheriff Ronald Bauer. "However, it wasn't until last
 >Thursday that it was within our power to act on this knowledge to
 >make a drug-possession arrest."
 >
 >Illinois' action comes on the heels of the recent Supreme Court
 >decision that the Fourth Amendment guarantee against unreasonable
 >search and seizure does not require police to obtain a warrant if
 >there is sufficient cause to believe the vehicle contains contraband.
 >
 >Following the top court's ruling, a number of states, including Utah,
 >North Carolina and Wisconsin, moved to specifically name Led Zeppelin
 >bumper stickers as a factor in determining whether to conduct
 >searches.
 >
 >The decision, says Bauer, is supported by extensive data. Illinois
 >state records show that in 1998, there were 362 cases in which a
 >traffic-violation-related search of a Led Zeppelin-logo-adorned
 >vehicle was found to contain illegal drugs or such drug paraphernalia
 >as rolling papers, plastic baggies and metal pipes bearing a row of
 >four cryptic symbols.
 >
 >Yet before the passage of HB 1921, ill-defined definitions of
 >probable cause have meant that an officer acting on this knowledge
 >was entering risky legal territory.
 >
 >"This is exactly what policemen have been asking for for years," said
 >Bauer, who said the new law will precipitate a "considerable
 >increase" in the frequency of drug-related arrests of motorists by
 >Illinois police, especially in rural areas. "It used to be that if we
 >spotted a car with that crazy-looking wizard on it, we had to just
 >drive right past unless the longhairs inside were specifically doing
 >something illegal."
 >
 >Illinois Attorney General Jim Ryan applauded passage of the bill.
 >
 >"After the Supreme Court decision, it was just a matter of
 >fine-tuning our interpretation of 'probable cause,'" Ryan said.
 >"We've found that Led Zeppelin bumper stickers--or, for that matter,
 >just the sound of "The Immigrant Song" or "Livin' Lovin' Maid" coming
 >from an open window--is exactly the sort of smoking gun local
 >authorities needed to establish a baseline for assessing that
 >probable cause."
 >
 >Ryan continued: "When it comes right down to it, though, prudent
 >officers have always, to a great degree, relied on common sense. If a
 >vehicle, especially a late-'70s American-made sedan with a vinyl top
 >and some rust, also bears a Led Zeppelin sticker, what are the odds
 >the driver is not in frequent possession of drugs or alcohol?"
 >
 >Preliminary data seems to indicate that this logic is sound. In a
 >Monday-afternoon field test, state troopers detained 100 Peoria-area
 >motorists under the new Criminal Code 861.4/Section 8 (Probable
 >Cause/ZOSO).  Nearly 60 percent of the vehicles contained alcohol,
 >drugs or drug paraphernalia, and nearly all contained suspected
 >alcohol or drug abusers.
 >
 >Rockford resident Doug Wojcek, charged Tuesday with possession of a
 >quarter-ounce of marijuana, was among those arrested under the new
 >law.
 >
 >"I was minding my own business when some policeman pulls me over and
 >searches my glove compartment," said Wojcek, 36. "It was just like
 >when Robert Plant gets hassled by the cops in that one song 'Misty
 >Mountain Hop.'  Hey, what could I do?"
 >
 >"This is bullshit," he added. "What about the kids with those Nine
 >Inch Nails stickers? No one is going after them."
 >
 >Despite such complaints, Illinois Gov. George H. Ryan spoke out in
 >support of the law and advocated widening its scope.
 >
 >"We might have to add provisions for the search of vehicles bearing
 >the Pink Floyd rainbow-and-black-prism, the Blue Oyster Cult symbol,
 >or maybe even the word Ozzy," said Gov. Ryan, noting that many other
 >states had already made these changes. "We cannot allow this law to
 >become discriminatory in practice. It must serve everyone equally."




[CTRL] Butler blames death of UNSCOM on Russia, China and France

1999-08-04 Thread Steve Wingate

 -Caveat Lector-

Butler blames death of UNSCOM on Russia, China and France

Copyright © 1999 Nando Media
Copyright © 1999 Associated Press

By EDITH M. LEDERER

UNITED NATIONS (August 3, 1999 8:50 p.m. EDT
http://www.nandotimes.com) - Former chief U.N. weapons inspector
Richard Butler accused Russia, China and France on Tuesday of
deliberately lying about some VX nerve agent left in a U.N. laboratory in
Baghdad in order to finally "kill" the U.N. Special Commission.

"To me, it was a bit like one of those scenes in a B-Grade movie where
someone shoots someone. They're obviously dead, but they go on and
empty the further five bullets into their body," Butler said in an Associated
Press Television News interview.

France, China and Russia - Iraq's closest allies on the Security Council -
knew that tiny samples of VX and other chemical agents in the laboratory
were used to test Iraqi material and that the quantities were so minuscule
they posed no danger, he said.

"Sadly, I think what was going on was their attempt to absolutely, finally kill
UNSCOM," he said. "They wanted ... to demonstrate that UNSCOM was an
evil organization that misled the council."

In an article in the debut issue of Talk magazine and the subsequent APTN
interview, Butler spoke out for the first time since he stepped down as
UNSCOM's executive director on June 30.

He delivered the same message in both interviews: UNSCOM told the truth
and was destroyed by Iraq's Security Council allies, especially Russia, U.N.
Secretary-General Kofi Annan's "misguided decisions," and former
weapons inspector Scott Ritter's false allegations that the CIA was
somehow directing the organization's activities.

The result, he said, is that there have been no arms inspections in Iraq for
12 months and the country could be trying to make nuclear, biological and
chemical weapons again because Saddam Hussein is "addicted" to
weapons of mass destruction.

Butler used the VX controversy to illustrate how he believes Iraq's council
allies and the secretary-general tried to finally destroy UNSCOM.

The VX test samples and other chemical warfare agents were left in the
laboratory when Butler ordered UNSCOM inspectors to leave Baghdad in
mid-December on the eve of U.S. and British airstrikes. Iraq has banned
UNSCOM from returning.

Even though France, China and Russia knew the test standards were
harmless, he said they urged the Security Council to have the samples
analyzed, intimating that UNSCOM inspectors may have laced Iraqi
warheads with the agent.

Butler said Annan and his senior staff participated in the "falsehood" that
the VX was deadly - and agreed to Iraq's demand that UNSCOM experts
be banned from the team sent to Baghdad to investigate the laboratory,
"which set a terrible precedent for the future."

Butler accused the secretary-general of trying to destroy UNSCOM
because it was "too independent," and of trying to paper over Iraq's
cheating on its disarmament obligations with diplomacy.

"You may get a short-term diplomatic solution but the real problem - the
weapons - will still be there, and they will come back to bite us in the future,"
Butler said.


Steve Wingate

California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Aug 3

1999-08-04 Thread Das GOAT

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>NEW YORK POST: The Clinton scandals just keep on comin'. The latest oil
>slick to bubble to the surface comes directly from Judge Norma Holloway
>Johnson, the chief federal judge in Washington, D.C., who oversaw the Ken
>Starr investigation. It turns out that Johnson personally selected the
>judges who would hear two cases that were potentially harmful to Clinton.
>Normally judges for such cases are picked at random. But Holloway would have
>none of it, sending Webb Hubbell and Charlie Trie straight to judges who had
>connections to both the defendants and the president. Take for instance the
>case of Hubbell - which Holloway sent to Judge James Robertson, who was
>appointed by Clinton. The judge is an old buddy of Clinton confidant Vernon
>Jordan  Holloway also ditched the rules when she placed Charlie Trie's
>case in the gentle hands of Judge Paul Friedman, yet another Clinton
>appointee.


In America today, Justice may not be blind, but she's definitely disabled.

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