[CTRL] HC: THE REAL STORY BEHIND PUTIN'S RISE (fwd)
THE REAL STORY BEHIND PUTIN'S RISE Houston Chronicle April 9, 2000 Ewa M. Thompson, professor of Slavic Studies VLADIMIR Putin's spectacular rise to power since Jan. 1 has been crowned with the presidency of the Russian Federation. However, the road to Putin's success is shrouded in mystery. It is generally agreed that his successes are linked to the Chechnya war. The war was meant to wipe out terrorism, which last summer killed nearly 300 Russians in separate apartment bombings in Moscow and Volgodonsk. Let us follow the route to Putin's stardom in some detail. Ever since the ruble crash in August 1998, there have been rumors of powerful people profiting from it. In summer 1999, these rumors intensified as the Bank of New York stood accused of laundering billions of dollars for the as-yet-unnamed Russian legal entities to banks outside Russia. Last summer and fall were rife with speculation that major figures in Russian political and financial life, including Boris Berezovsky and other "oligarchs," were involved in these multibillion dollar scandals (that included the billions which the United States government gave the Russian government as aid and long-term loans). The violence in Dagestan last summer, and the apartment bombings in Moscow and Volgodonsk that followed it, turned Russian and international attention away from the financial scandal in which everyone of note in Russia, including then-President Boris Yeltsin, seemed to be mired. In September, the now-suspended prosecutor-general, Yury Skuratov, said in an interview with The Moscow Times that some 780 government officials were under investigation. The apartment bombings and violence in Dagestan happened at a convenient time. Headlines about the Moscow bombings replaced the headlines about money laundering of unimaginable proportions. The war in Chechnya that followed further removed tens of billions of dollars from public attention at home and abroad. It gets curiouser and curiouser. Barely a couple of weeks after the bombings, authorities plowed over the crime scenes in Moscow. The Guryanova Street bombing site was buried just 10 days after the explosion, and the Kashirskoye Shosse site was never secured before rubble clearance began the day of the blast. In other words, the Russian police (then under Putin) made it impossible fully to collect evidence from the disaster sites. Then came Yeltsin's resignation and the propelling of Putin to the position of power on Jan. 1. Shortly after that resignation, Mikhail Gorbachev told Italy's La Stampa that Yeltsin "did not want to resign" and "was deposed" by a trio of manipulators that included his own daughter, Tatiana Dyachenko, presidential chief of staff Aleksandr Voloshin and billionaire Boris Berezovsky. On Jan. 6, the London Independent newspaper's Moscow corespondent, Helen Womack, reported that videotape evidence pointed to FSK (former KGB) involvement in the Moscow apartment bombings. But other newspapers did not pick up the lead. Concurrently, the evidence that Chechens engineered the bombings has never been presented by the Russian government. More curious coincidences. Before the March 26 presidential election, there appeared a spate of statements by prominent Russians suggesting that the Chechnya war did not just happen because of terrorism. Last September, Literaturnaya Gazeta said that: "It is useless to look for the origin of `bombings' in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. ... The trail leads straight to one place -- the Kremlin." In January, Yelena Bonner, widow of the 1975 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Andrei Sakharov, minced no words when she affirmed that the war was planned to bring acting President Putin to power. She spoke of "genocide" in Chechnya: "I cannot understand why some people still think Russia has a place in the Council of Europe as long as it pounds on Chechnya. ... It seems to me unthinkable to free funds for Russia. ... It is as if the West were to grant loans to Nazi Germany just as they attacked Poland." Were the Chechen war and, what is even more perverse, the bombings in Russian cities, engineered by the FSK under Putin? Was the trio of Putin, Berezovsky and Voloshin responsible for ousting Yeltsin as a necessary step in burying the traces of financial scandals? Given the Russians' ability to destroy evidence, we may never know for certain, but strong circumstantial evidence suggests that Putin might have come to power as a result of a crime perpetuated on his own people, and then on a people whom Russians have tried to wipe out already three times in history, most recently under Josef Stalin: the Chechens. How has the weak Russian economy been able to pay for the war in Chechnya? The recent increases in the price of petroleum have brought additional tens of billions of dollars into the previously empty coffers of the Kremlin. America's allies, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, cut back production at just about the time when Russian financial scandals
[CTRL] Tyranny of Executive Orders
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html Subject: Tyranny of Executive Orders End presidential tyranny. Halt congressional dereliction. Stop judicial passiveness. During the recent presidential scandals, concluding with the impeachment of President Clinton, many people were heard to say that the investigations should end so that the president could get back to "the business of running the country." Under a constitution dedicated to individual liberty and limited government û which divides, separates, and limits power û how did we get to a point where so many Americans think of government as embodied in the president and then liken him to a man running a business? The answer rests in part with the growth of presidential rule through executive orders and national emergencies. Unfortunately, the Constitution defines presidential powers very generally; and nowhere does it define, much less limit, the power of a president to rule by executive order û except by reference to that general language and the larger structure and function of the Constitution. The issue is especially acute when presidents use executive orders to legislate, for then they usurp the powers of Congress or the states, raising fundamental concerns about the separation and division of powers. The problem of presidential usurpation of legislative power has been with us from the beginning, but it has grown exponentially with the expansion of government in the 20th century. In enacting program after program, Congress has delegated more and more power to the executive branch. Thus, Congress has not only failed to check but has actually abetted the expansion of presidential power. And the courts have been all but absent in restraining presidential lawmaking. Nevertheless, the courts have acted in two cases û in 1952 and 1996 û laying down the principles of the matter; the nationÆs governors have just forced President Clinton to rewrite a federalism executive order; and now there are two proposals in Congress that seek to limit presidential lawmaking. Those developments offer hope that constitutional limits û and the separation and division of powers, in particular û may eventually be restored. William J. Olson and Alan Woll Executive Orders and National Emergencies How Presidents Have Come to "Run the Country" by Usurping Legislative Power CATO Institute, Policy Analysis, No. 358, Oct. 28, 1999 To read Mr. Olson and Mr. Woll's 29-page policy analysis, please click here. The power of the national government has increased substantially over us during the last several decades. American presidents of both political parties; Congress regardless of its majority party; and the courts have failed to honor the American constitutional requirement of the separation of powers û the separation of powers our countryÆs founders knew to be necessary in order for them and for us to live in liberty. It is not possible for a constitutional republic to maintain itself. A great and noble system of government requires perpetual vigilance on the part of its citizenry if it is to survive. Sadly, within our own precious land, a subtle but virulent type of distortion has been taking place. The assault has been slow but persistent. It has occurred beyond the grasp and view of many Americans. Most alarming, though, is that we now find ourselves in a situation where the rudimentary mechanisms of our republic, the actual underpinnings of our representative structure, are in danger. At the superficial level, procedures appear to be routine in nature and government seems to be operating facilely. So by what means could so seemingly a solid and efficient system be threatened? The instrument of destruction that hangs over
Re: [CTRL] NYP: FIRST LADY CAN'T SEEM TO DITCH CARPETBAG SHE CARRIES (fwd)
In a message dated 04/10/2000 1:34:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Giuliani's advisers believe Clinton's carpetbagger status -- she never worked in New York and has only lived here since January -- remains her soft underbelly, ripe for attack later when they begin trying in earnest to tear down the first lady's popularity. Why should that make a difference? Is Giuliani a native New Yorker? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Diana and Blue Beam
NEW BOOK PROBES PRINCESS DIANA DEATH http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns0111 (CNNS, 01/11/99) -- "Ru Mills" (pseudonym) has authored a soon-to-be published book which probes the circumstances surrounding the death of Princess Diana in August 1997. The book, tentatively titled, "Diana, Queen of Heaven," is apparently the first to question whether the death of Lady Diana was truly a car accident. Information in the book strongly suggests that Lady Diana was murdered, as the result of a conspiracy against her. "Ru Mills" is well known to readers of Conspiracy Nation News Service and has an impressive background. Her deep-cover sources routinely provide her with inside information which has often proven to be prescient. Besides questioning whether Diana's death was really an "accident," Mills elaborates on how the revered image of the princess may be used to promote a "New World Religion." In a memo sent to CNNS, she discusses how holographic technology could be used to help foster a religious mania. Quoting from a political newsletter, Mills buttresses herargument: The 'Blue Beam' project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old; as major an event as that which took place 2000 years ago (the birth of Jesus, son of God). In principle, 'Blue Beam' will make use of the sky as a movie screen as spaced based laser generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet, in every language, in every dialect according to region. The 'Blue Beam' project deals with the religious aspect of the New World Order and is a large scale seduction. With computer animation and sound effects appearing to come from the depths of space, astonished followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messiah in spectacularly convincing life like realness. (Washington Report A monthly Washington Political Newsletter, February 1995, Volume 16) With "Millenium Madness" on the rise, secret forces pushing for a "New World Order" could well have an image of "Diana, Queen of Heaven," set to be "broadcast" on the biggest movie screen ever: the wide open sky. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + INFORMATION PLEASE: Conspiracy Nation News Service (CNNS) is a co-operative effort. Without the hints/rumors provided by many excellent sources, we could not exist. Have YOU heard anything lately that might be important? Pass it along to us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anonymity is guaranteed. If you prefer, send your news tip or clues on same to: Brian Redman, 310 S. Prairie (#202), Champaign, IL 61820. Or you can go to a pay phone and call in your news tip: 217-356-4418. THEY will never tell us the whole truth about what is going on. But we, the People, working together, can find out what is REALLYhappening. Brian Redman | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Editor-in-Chief| ---Phone: 217-356-4418 Conspiracy Nation | "The perfect slave thinks he's free." A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for sharing your grief with us. Let us all remember that we all have sinned and must throw ourselves on the mercy of God. We all have fallen natures and it is easy for us fall. Bernard Natanson who sent his girl friend off to Canada for an abortion was an atheistic Jewish intern. That statement not only smacks of anti-semitism, it makes no sense. If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa. What does the guy's religion, or lack thereof, have to do with anything? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not every abortion leads to the death of the mother. That is logical, isn't it? Only to you. To some people, an abortion is just getting rid of some fecal tissue, not 'the death of something sacred to God'... June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would say that her choice to abuse alcohol ruined her life, not the fact that she had an abortion. AA says that something causes people to drink excessively, in this case it does seem that her having an abortion was the cause. If AA says that, they're nuts. Nothing 'causes' anyone to drink or to abuse drugs. There are any number of reasons a person may give as a COP OUT for becoming addicted, but it still comes down to the person's choice. I suspect your friend would have become an alcoholic even if she'd never had an abortion, the abortion is her convenient 'justification' for her decision to abuse alcohol. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
June, Doyou think of yourself in your mother's womb as fecal tissue? Terry - Original Message - From: Ynr Chyldz Wyld To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not every abortion leads to the death of the mother. That is logical, isn't it?Only to you. To some people, an abortion is just getting rid of some fecal tissue, not 'the death of something sacred to God'...JuneA
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, we do live in a Republic, where a mob like the Cubans encamped outside the home where Elian Gonzalez is staying have no right to ram their ideology down the throats of others... Then you are saying that it is OK for those of your ilk to ram your political agenda down the throats of others? No, I'm saying NO mob, no matter what their political leanings, have the right to ram their political ideology down the throats of others. And just whom is my 'ilk', Bob? ;-) How can we 'prove' that the majority and the laws are against them? Proving the laws is simple. If it is so simple, how come no one has stated what that laws is? Let's start with the anti-loitering laws in Miami... I'd hazard a guess that if you and I decided to loiter on any street in Miami, we'd soon have cops telling us to move along. If we didn't, we'd find ourselves arrested. For some reason this simple anti-loitering statute is NOT being applied in this case. I'm sure you're right about that, maybe not arrested, but asked to move along, then if we didn't, we probably would be arrested. That is exactly what I said. Any state in the union would recognize a biological father's right to have custody of his own son, over the claims of a maternal grand-uncle, unless it could be proven that for some reason the father was an unfit parent. This should be international law, what does that say? I don't know what 'international law' says, nor what international governing body you are going by. _I_ go by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and the laws of the individual states of the Union. Maybe the fact that his Mother died trying to get him out of a Communist country says something. It says nothing. If you bend the law when it's someone escaping from a country you don't like, then how can you uphold the law when it's someone escaping from a country who's an ally, or perhaps escaping from your own country. If the tables were turned, and this kid's mother died as she was trying to escape the U.S. and enter Cuba, what would your argument be if relatives in Havana claimed to have a better right to have custody of the kid than the father back in the U.S.? What if a mother who brought her child to visit relatives in Iraq suddenly died, and the Iraqi relatives took custody of the child, and claimed they had a superior claim to custody? Would you argue as vehemently for THEIR right to custody over the custody of the American father back in the States? And if we decide that Elian Gonzalez is deserving of political asylum, why then are we turning away thousands of Haitians, many of whom are also children, who are also seeking political asylum? What I hear around this neck of the woods (Colorado) is that the Mother was trying to give her son a better life here in the US. Is her death for nothing? In my neck of the woods, coworkers and people talking about it while waiting in line at the store all say the father should have custody. We have no idea what was in the mother's mind; according to her own mother, she had a good life in Cuba, and according to her mother was not unhappy and was not political. Her mother has been quoted as saying she suspects the new husband was behind the decision to leave Cuba, and she believes her daughter was pressured into going. Hardly the description of someone seeking political asylum. They have the same rights as all citizens, no less, but certainly no more. One has to wonder why the Cuban mob parked in permanent encampment outside the home where Elian is staying are being given special treatment. One wonders why this Cuban child should get any more special treatment from the INS and the Justice Department than a child escaping from Haiti. The last statement makes me wonder what is happening while people are paying attention to this "pony show" that is going on, what are the elites/government doing behind the scenes now that they have a good smoke screen? I'm not so sure it's government elites we should be looking for, but other 'elites' Speaking only for myself, it is quite common to use a nickname on the Internet, in fact it is more common than not. In my case I use the nickname, and only sign with my first name, to avoid stalking. I can understand that, there are many perverts in this world and I think the US has more than our share, but why would a man hide his identity? A man can be stalked as easily as a woman can be... I believe this is a matter of international law since he is not a US citizen. Sure it's a case of U.S. law. It is applied every day to illegal immigrants from countries other than Cuba. It is applied to Haitians and Mexicans. There is no reason for 'international law' to become involved. It is solely the province of U.S. immigration law. And since when did 'international law' take precedence over the Constitution of the United
Re: [CTRL] DARE Indoctrination Fails
DARE plus RITALIN equals MIXED MESSAGE equals HYPOCRISY. Tenorlove who has DARE on her list of reasons why she home-schools __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
From: "Foxter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you think of yourself in your mother's womb as fecal tissue? What I think doesn't matter. What matters is what each woman contemplating abortion thinks, and that each woman has a choice. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
June: He wasn't Catholic. More importantly he was an atheist then, but be- cause the abortion cost him his first love there was something about a- bortion that was to him against human reason. Are you Jewish? Beware of the Jewish persecution complex. I think it is significant that be is a Christian now and, I believe, is now Catholic. Sincerely, Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Dear June: Life human in origin is tissue that is the same as excrement? Sincerely, Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] He wasn't Catholic. More importantly he was an atheist then, but be- cause the abortion cost him his first love there was something about a- bortion that was to him against human reason. Are you Jewish? Beware of the Jewish persecution complex. You think that only Jews can perceive blatant antisemitism? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: How Clinton Betrays Americans
Note: forwarded message attached. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com PHYLLIS SCHLAFLY REPORT -- March 2000 How Clinton Betrays Americans The Anthrax Vaccine Scandals It wasn't just idle words when Bill Clinton said he "loathed" the military. He has damaged U.S. Armed Services in so many ways that it's no wonder morale, recruitment and retention levels are at all-time lows. Clinton has used the military to indulge in social experimentation to appease the feminists and gays, and in interventionist experimentation to please his globalist friends. He has also ordered medical experimentation through compulsory anthrax vaccination. It adds up to a shocking betrayal of the men and women in the U.S. Armed Services. Since the Pentagon is in denial and coverup, we can thank CBS 60 Minutes for its February 6th exposé of the case of Major Sonnie Bates and thank Rep. Christopher Shays' (R-CT) Subcommittee on National Security of the House Government Reform Committee for its scathing report on the vaccine released February 17th. (www.house.gov/reform/ns/ and reported in New York Times, 2-18-00) Clinton responded to Congressional hearings by issuing Executive Order 13139 on September 30, 1999. It denies servicemen the right to refuse experimental vaccines that are "not yet approved by the FDA for its intended use," language that obviously covers the anthrax vaccine. The 60 Minutes segment was a sympathetic portrayal of Major Bates, a 14-year decorated pilot and the highest ranking of some 300 servicemen who have been punished for refusing the vaccine, with penalties from prison to bad-conduct discharge to "correctional custody." The Pentagon then reduced the threat to court-martial Bates to a lesser punishment. More than 1,000 servicemen with exemplary records are awaiting trial on a felony charge of refusing to take the anthrax shot. Hundreds more, including dozens of pilots described as "the cream of the crop," have left the services. Congressional testimony indicated that, for every one who reported vaccine reactions, three others did not report them because they feared that would be a career killer. The lengthy report of the Shays Subcommittee concludes that the anthrax policy "lacks an essential element in a medical program: trust." The Pentagon's "absolutist declarations, heavy-handed propaganda, and ad hominem attacks" against those who question the policy are seen as another chapter in a long history of "military medical malfeasance" that includes lies about nuclear testing, Agent Orange, and Gulf War drugs and vaccines. The long-term effects of the anthrax vaccine have never been studied, but the immediate reactions include autoimmune disorders, lesions, rashes, memory lapses, thyroid problems, blurred vision, inability to drive or read, crippling bone-joint pain, loss of concentration and chronic fatigue. The military has reacted by calling those affected liars, whiners, hypochondriacs, malingerers, hysterical, depressed, or in need of counseling. The Shays report states that the anthrax vaccine is based on old (1950s-era) medical technology, a "dangerously narrow scientific and medical foundation." Currently, the "safety of the vaccine is not being monitored adequately." A newly built anthrax vaccine plant failed its FDA safety inspection on December 13, 1999. (Washington Post, 12-14-99) According to the Shays report, even the "efficacy of the vaccine against biological warfare is uncertain. The vaccine was approved for protection against cutaneous (under the skin) infection in an occupational setting, not for use as mass protection against weaponized, aerosolized anthrax," which is how any enemy would use anthrax. The sole and exclusive manufacturer of the anthrax vaccine, BioPort of Lansing, Michigan, has been cited repeatedly by the FDA for quality deficiencies. It not only has a checkered safety record, but also a checkered financial history. The anthrax vaccine was originally produced by Michigan Biologics Products Institute. It was taken over in September 1998 by BioPort Corporation, a new company created by Intervac L.L.C., in which former Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral William J. Crowe owned 22.5 percent of the stock even though he hadn't invested a penny. (ABCNEWS.com, 3-12-99) The very next month, BioPort was awarded a Department of Defense (DOD) contract valued at $25.7 million to produce anthrax vaccine. Crowe will be remembered as the former Joint Chiefs Chairman who endorsed Bill Clinton for President in 1992 and gave Clinton "cover" when his draft record was under attack. On August 5, 1999, DOD agreed to pay BioPort nearly double the price specified in the contract: $49.8 million instead of $25.7 million, including advance payments of $18.7 million. DOD also indemnified MBPI/BioPort against all liability from adverse reactions because,
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
June: Dr.Nathanson in his book: The Aborting of America, saw fit to share the fact the he was an atheitic Jew. Am I miss quoting him? Sincerely, Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are talking about objective truth versus subjective truth. If I do violece to you; I can say you had it coming. But the law could say: June did nothing to you but say you were wrong and you beat her up. Put your hands behind your back... There are absolutes created by God and they are not open to revision. Whose God? Are the absolutes of your God more absolute than the absolutes of the god/gods/goddesses of some other religion? All religion is subjective. Why should your superstition be imposed on the majority, rather than another flavor of superstition? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
June: Is this logical: I want to cut my arm off so I can be a successful beg- gar. It my arm and... Besides, I want you to pay for the operation so I can exercise my right to choose. Why can't I exercise my right to choose to own you as my slave? It's in the bible. What is truth,? Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Whiteout, the press, mind control and the role of cia-drugs list
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type META content="MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY DIV- Original Message - DIVFrom: "Thomas Mountain" lt;A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt;/DIV DIVTo: lt;A href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Agt;/DIV/DIV DIVgt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; The strength of Whiteout by Alex Cockburn is in the analysis of the roleBRof the press. Many, including members of this list, have made majorBRcontributions toward documenting the role of the US government in the drugBRtrade. Whiteout is the first work I have seen taking an in depth look at theBRrole of the press in covering up the crimes of the US government.BRParticularly around Gary Webb's Dark Alliance series.BRnbsp; Who else "white" has written on "black paranoia"?BRThe most organized and effective part of this society is amongst AfricanBRgt; Americans and the Nation of Islam, which is not mainly a politicalBRgt; resistance movement. The nature of the attacks on "black paranoia" followingBRgt; Gary Webbs series demonstrates the leading role black folk play in theBRgt; resistance movement. It also explains why black folk were consciouslyBRgt; targeted for the crack pandemic by CIA./DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVFONT face=Palatino size=3FONT face=Palatino size=3 P align=justifyCockburn is pharmacophobic - knows virtually no pharmacology - and very little anthropology - and has absolutely none of either in Whiteout.nbsp; His discussion of CIA-Drugs is all CIA - and Press - about which he is sophisticated - and nothing whatever about Drugs - about which he is utterly pharmacophobic.nbsp; Webb is equally one-sided, but more pharmacologically sophisticated - for my money a better reporter.nbsp; /P P align=justifyAnd the conformist Black leaders, often spearheaded by the Nation of Islam, "role models" who stupidly blame the symptoms for the disease, just like they#8217;re supposed to, support the massive arrest and imprisonment of their own people. They buy into the fascist line that "values" have to be enforced by law. Whose values? General Dynamics#8217;? /P P align=justifyJesse Jackson commiserated with General McCaffrey on CNN, 1/25/98: "Somehow it seems that our own appetite, maybe our society is so wealthy or so egregious, some kind of values crisis here is driving the demand. But what about the supply? It seems that in a couple of countries that there is some slowing down of the drug supply. But Mexico, it seems to be 70 percent of the drug flow. How can we stop it coming from the greatest source?" This was McCaffrey#8217;s cue to explain that victory is just around the corner if we#8217;ll just keep beefing up the Mexican army and expanding the police function of the military./P PCharming Charlie Rangel, the D.A., made a career of throwing FONT face=Palatino size=3"my people" into prison before he became the Black Richmond P. Hobson. Jackson, at least, consistently uses the word "fascist" to describe the dope dealers, but, since he is an unempirical theocrat, has absolutely nothing original to offer in the way of policy. He quite rightly calls for "an urban policy" while, at the same time, in the same sentence, calling for "a real War on Drugs."/FONTFONT face=Palatino size=126/FONTFONT face=Palatino size=3nbsp; If he were a baseball player, his nickname would be "Clueless." Is this not also the Nation of Islam's position?FONT face=Palatino size=3/P PJackson, and for that matter the Nation of Islam, consistently portray African-American culture as if it were composed entirely of middle-class Baptists, or Moslems. I never hear the Rastafarians I smoked with in the back of so many subway cars mentioned. The largest mass-movement in African -American history was overtly shamanic, overtly tribal African. Marcus Garvey#8217;s Universal FONT face=Palatino size=3Negro Improvement Association was an awesome force throughout the Caribbean, North and South America in the 1920#8217;s. Those Africans revered their ancient tribal sacramentalism. /P P align=justifyThe criminalization of African sacraments was a basic part of the of the cultural genocide necessary for enslavement. The Rastafarian memory of history is simply photographic. This memory is very much alive on the Mau Mau streets. Thanks to the ruthless cultural genocide directed at them, many young African-American shamans would rather go down fighting with their local posse. /P PBut, since Jackson and Rangel - and the Nation of Islam - are adamantly amnesiac about their own tribal roots, they can only peck around the edges of policy. By not fighting the militarization of American culture, the conformist Black politicos collaborate in the diversion of billions that should be going into structural sweat-equity antipoverty programs, to which they pay only lip service. Instead,
[CTRL] Fwd: Weekly Analysis April 10, 2000
STRATFOR.COM's Weekly Global Intelligence Update - 10 April 2000 __ By The Internet's Most Intelligent Source of International News Analysis http://www.stratfor.com/ __ Have you visited our web site recently? We've made some new changes that make using the site more efficient, allowing greater access to thousands of reports. Visit http://www.stratfor.com today. __ OTHER FEATURES ON STRATFOR.COM U.S. and Pakistan Take Aim at Osama bin Laden http://www.stratfor.com/MEAF/commentary/0004072300.htm U.S. Forces Realign in Persian Gulf http://www.stratfor.com/meaf/commentary/0004072350.htm Putin Promotes Russian Nationalism http://www.stratfor.com/cis/commentary/0004072242.htm __ STRATFOR.COM Weekly Global Intelligence Update 10 April 2000 The Geopolitics of Fidel Summary Last week Stratfor.com's Weekly Analysis focused on the interface between the isolated "rogue" states of the 1990s and the emerging great power geopolitics of the 21st century. This week we consider in some detail the case of a single rogue power, Cuba, and the manner in which it has sustained itself and flourished as a globally visible actor. It is a case where geopolitics mingles with the craftsmanship of a master political operator, Fidel Castro. Forget about the turmoil in Miami, and consider why Castro - weak, isolated and economically destitute - can so skillfully confound the United States. Analysis What is extraordinary about Fidel Castro is that he is here at all. More than 40 years after coming to power, he survives. He survives in the face of the unremitting hostility of a superpower only 90 miles away. He survives in spite of these facts: his main patron, the Soviet Union, has disappeared, his ideology, Marxist-Leninism, is discredited, and his economy is in shambles. Despite the fact that an extraordinary number of ordinary citizens prefer to chance death at sea rather than remain in his nation, Fidel survives. Not only does his survival require explanation but it begs a serious, strategic question: What does the survival of Cuba mean to the international system? As important, what does Castro want it to mean? He is a man of intentions, many of them admittedly failed. But unlike others who have clung to power because they did not know how to let go, Castro portrays himself as a man for whom power is a means to an end, not an end itself. After all, there have been easier paths for him to take. Therefore, understanding Fidel - and what he means in a larger sense - means understanding his intentions. From the beginning, Castro has shown an extraordinary understanding of how to shape public opinion. It is difficult to think of any world leader, let alone the leader of a minor Third World country, who has been more successful not only at drawing attention to himself, but in generating a positive global image. His 1953 attack on the army barracks at Moncada led only to his arrest and trial; but his "The World Will Absolve Me" speech at the trial sparked a movement. Even today, in the face of failure, human rights violations and isolation, he continues to generate support and admiration. That skill is not incidental to his understanding of how the world works. Consider the latest affair. A small group of ordinary citizens, clearly driven by despair and desperate for an alternative, choose to escape. These people are so desperate to leave that they risk their lives in a rickety boat unsuited for the high seas. This is far from an isolated event. Men, women and children bear this risk regularly. In this particular case, a woman falls overboard and drowns, leaving behind a small son, who is taken to live with relatives. In almost any other country, what would be considered shocking is the misery and hopelessness that led to the escape - and the moral character of a regime that holds its citizens as prisoners. Had this event involved Iraq or Serbia, the focus of the media would have been on the regime that generated the refugees. But Castro spun the situation brilliantly, turning the United States into the victimizer and Cuba into the victim. He did so by understanding the structure of international public opinion brilliantly, and with it, the dynamics of power. Castro did not allow the world's attention to linger on the causes of the voyage. Instead, he fixated on the outcome of the voyage and the fact that the little boy had a father in Cuba to whom he should be returned. Now, there was certainly justice in that claim. A child's father surely has the right to a child when the mother is dead. The hesitancy of the United States in returning the child was based largely on political concerns in the Cuban-American community, as well as other, humanitarian concerns. Castro seized on Washington's hesitation as an assault on paternal rights and he achieved two
[CTRL] [newsucanuse] Heads Up
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Doug Fiedor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newsucanuse] Heads Up Date: Saturday, April 01, 2000 6:38 PM Heads Up A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia April 02, 2000 #177 by: Doug Fiedor[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Previous Editions at: http://www.uhuh.com/reports/headsup/list-hu.htm - IMPEACHMENT TIME AGAIN Let the impeachments begin. And yes, that was written plural intentionally. Congress should stop all other work and handle multiple impeachments simultaneously. The Reno Justice Department, and everyone in it, should be forever banished from both government and the practice of law. They are not just dishonest, they are actually using the power of the Justice Department to obstruct justice -- in an ever expanding number of cases. The Senate Finance Committee has enough information on Clinton and Gore to start impeachment hearings. The Thompson Committee on Government Affairs does, too. There is still that outstanding matter concerning the $1.7-million "Centralized White House Computer System." And there is the Cox Committee. When is enough enough? And, Henry Hyde and his House Judiciary Committee surely cannot be done yet. For them to quit amounts to total negligence and would be a blatant affront to the law they expect the American people to respect. We are about to hear a lot more on that in a few weeks, too. David Schippers, Rep. Hyde's hand picked chief investigative counsel, was a bit upset that the Committee refused to do its job properly and promises to shine a little light on the subject in a book to be released soon. There are also a number of newly exposed crimes that are worthy of impeachment hearings. At least two of these are known as a direct result of the good works of Judicial Watch and the legal tenacity of Larry Klayman. Last week, Judicial Watch (http://www.judicialwatch.org) reported: "The finding of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia that President Bill Clinton committed a crime in violating the privacy rights of Kathleen Willey, will go down as a first in American history. The landmark decision by the Court surpasses the decision by Judge Susan Webber Wright, who never found criminal wrongdoing by the president in Paula Jones' lawsuit. Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman says the criminal ruling bolsters Judicial Watch's $90 million class action lawsuit on Filegate by showing a pattern of similar misconduct. 'It raises an evidentiary inference that Filegate really occurred,' Klayman said." Also last week, Rep. Dan Burton and his House Government Reform Committee got an earful when White House counsel Beth Nolan did everything but stand up and confess that there is an ongoing conspiracy among the upper echelon at the White House to withhold information subpoenaed by Congressional committees, the independent counsel and others. Nolan, an attorney, said her predecessor did not recognize that a computer glitch failed to capture and record hundreds of thousands of e-mails. That's a bald- faced lie, of course. But, let's examine what she said anyway: The White House probably has as many lawyers per square foot as anyplace else in the world. All these lawyers are there for one reason and one reason alone: they want enough power to be able to control the lives of the American people. Anyway, there sits Nolan telling the House Government Reform committee that lawyers like White House Counsel Charles Ruff, and a dozen others, were so stupid they did not realize that hundreds of thousands of subpoenaed e-mails that were wanted by investigators probing the Lewinsky and campaign finance scandals were missing. Sure. So, who is totally stupid here, most of the White House staff because the story is true, or us for even considering it could be true? Because, either way, it's impeachment time again. Making matters worse, Nolan told the committee that the White House just hired an independent contractor to go through backup tapes of the e-mails and restore them to a searchable format so they can respond to subpoena requests. She said that will take about 170 days to reconstruct e-mail back-up tapes and conduct a thorough search. We have a better idea: Contact a high school computer club and offer them two thousand bucks to get it done and double if it's done next week. They will have the completely searchable database ready within days. On top of all this comes the Justice
[CTRL] Fwd: electronic eyes
The Times April 9 2000 BRITAIN Hi-tech sensor sinks the navy's periscopes Adam Nathan IT IS time up, periscope. The Royal Navy's new generation of attack submarines will be the world's first to abandon the traditional naval periscope in favour of sophisticated "electronic eyes". No longer will submarine captains have to squint up a tube to see what is happening on the surface. Instead, they will use stealth imaging equipment that may not even need to break the surface of the sea to get a picture. The "optronic mast" uses television cameras, thermal imagers and sensors to transmit a 360-degree picture to the sub's commander. The pictures can also be transmitted to everyone who needs to see them by CCTV. They can be frozen, enlarged or replayed frame by frame. Thermal imaging will provide full vision at night. Most radically, the new equipment will make a snooping submarine almost impossible for any enemy to see. "It can do what's called a 'quick look round', where it pops up above the water, spins around for a few seconds and then gets back down again," said Tim Orr, of Pilkington Optronics, which makes the mast. "You don't need to have it sticking up on the surface while you try to find what you're looking for." The "quick look" produces a snapshot picture that can be analysed at leisure. The head - or the "eye" - of a conventional periscope has to be fairly large. The optronic mast, however, uses miniaturised cameras and sensors to make its head almost invisible to observers on the surface. "The head is shaped to reduce its wake in the water so a helicopter or whatever cannot see it," said Orr. "Also, the head is designed to be stealthy - it will not produce a large radar return." Orr added that the navy had been working on a capability to use the new mast without needing to break the surface at all. Further developments could see the eye of a submarine detached from the vessel altogether. Unmanned underwater vehicles transmitting images back to the mother ship and cameras launched out of the submarine's torpedo tubes have both been tested by the United States Navy. "Conventional 'clanky' periscopes take up a sizeable swathe of space in the submarine's control room. Non-penetrating masts change all that," said Rupert Pengelly, of Jane's Information Group. Pilkington, whose subsidiary, Barr Stroud, has been making periscopes for 80 years, won a £20m contract for the masts after beating off foreign competition. Made in Scotland, the masts underwent testing on one of the navy's Trafalgar-class submarines and are being fitted to the new Astute-class hunter-killer subs, due to enter service from 2005. These submarines include extra-silent engines, a 50% higher weapon load and a "dry-deck shelter" for frogmen. "The submarine service is very pleased," said Commander Hugh Edleston, the navy's director of communications. "This mast is right at the cutting edge of technology and represents a key part of the Astute class's tactical system."
[CTRL] Fwd: RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Whiteout, the press, mind control and the role of cia-drugs list
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN" HTML HEAD META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type META content='"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY DIVSPAN class=940173512-10042000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2Also, Dan, if my intuition is right, they are making money by issuing mortgages supposedly secured by properties in these areas, for which no properties exist. It is just another Samp;L type scam. The due dilligence contractors used to tell me that on RTC auctions..that they would go to look at the property and there was none there/FONT/SPAN/DIV BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" DIV class=OutlookMessageHeaderFONT face="Times New Roman" size=2-Original Message-SPAN class=940173512-10042000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2nbsp; /FONT/SPANBRBFrom:/B Catherine Austin Fitts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]BRBSent:/B Monday, April 10, 2000 8:29 AMBRBTo:/B [EMAIL PROTECTED]BRBSubject:/B RE: [CIA-DRUGS] Whiteout, the press, mind control and the role of cia-drugs list BRBR/FONT/DIV BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px" DIVFONT face=Palatino size=3 P align=justifySPAN class=340212512-10042000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2Dan:BRBRThere was a little blurb in the Wall Street Journal last week about a recent study that showed that pain killers were less available in Afro-American or minority neighborhoods.Fit right into what you have been saying and another reminder of the opportunity behind locally controlled place based data colllection and feedback loops around the Popsicle Index./FONT/SPAN/P P align=justifySPAN class=340212512-10042000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2/FONT/SPANnbsp;/P P align=justifySPAN class=340212512-10042000FONT color=#ff face=Arial size=2nbsp;/FONT/SPANOne of the obvious things Catherine Fitts' lsquo;geo-codedrsquo; data base was able to demonstrate was that defaulted HUD mortgages were concentrated in areas of structural poverty, and that those were precisely the quot;drug areasquot; the Prohibitionists were most up in arms about. quot;Freewayquot; Ricky Rossrsquo; Harbor Freeway, running right through the center of South Central L.A., was a concentrated mass of defaulted HUD/FHA single family loans. Fittsrsquo; map of defaults looks quite like a pollution-induced disease cluster centered around the Harbor Freeway. /P P align=justifyFailure to address neighborhood structural poverty results in a pain-filled neighborhood dependent on the default painkiller economy. The resultant anarchic poverty and violence collapses neighborhood property values. Why pay off an apparently worthless mortgage when it makes more sense to move? Prime urban real estate can then be bought for pennies on the dollar. /P PAnd who was buying this prime real estate? The HUD contractors -indistinguishable from the intelligence community and the Republican establishment. The same quot;liquidatorsquot; that had made the neighborhood ripe for a quot;drug epidemicquot; in the first place, the same military intelligence operatives dealing the drugs, were using their drug money to buy the now devalued neighborhoods for a pittance - FONT face=Palatino size=3for cheap conversion into condos, malls and industrial parks. These were the very same radical Prohibitionists demonizing those using the pain killers and then vying for the resultant prison contracts./P/FONTFONT face=Palatino size=3 P align=justifySure, the drug profiteering is there, but quot;Crackquot; is a fascist red herring, a way of demonizing the symptom rather than the disease. The problem is structural poverty, not too few incarcerated poor. Crack is nothing but a symptom of massive systemic pain. Given the criminalization of the safe herbal painkillers and euphoriants, and the Prohibition-created default economy, crack may have become the euphoriant/painkiller of choice, but the problem is the pain, not the painkiller. /P P align=justifyquot;Crack pandemicquot; is an updated George Creel concept (quot;The Cocaine Nigger of Ashevillequot;).nbsp; Let's throw them all in jail, for their own good.nbsp; The Bloods, the Crips, the Cobra Stones, and especially the Gangster Disciples, repeatedly stress that they have the inalienable right to participate in the only economy open to them, rather than rotting in abject poverty in the concrete jungle. The Disciples call
[CTRL] tabloid trash . . FBI FILES REVEAL HILLARY'S S
from: http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a38efe9f015ad.htm Click Here: A HREF="http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a38efe9f015ad.htm"tabl oid trash . . FBI FILES REVEAL HILLARY'S S /A - FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum" [ Last | Latest Posts | Latest Articles | Self Search | Add Bookmark | Post | Abuse | Help! ] Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. tabloid trash . . FBI FILES REVEAL HILLARY'S SECRET AFFAIR . . .and . . . MONICA TURNS TO WOMEN . . Crime/Corruption Breaking News Humor Keywords: LIKES DIKES Source: STAR - THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER Published: APRIL 18, 2000 Author: TOM KUNCLE ROBERT BLACKMON TONY BRENNA Posted on 04/08/2000 19:24:48 PDT by Socks C. Star April 18, 2000 -TOM KUNCLFBI FILES REVEAL: HILLARY'S SECRET AFFAIR! THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER -ROBERT BLACKMON and TONY BRENNA MONICA DISGUSTED WITH MEN -SHE TURNS TO WOMEN DISGUSTED with men, Monica Lewinsky is turning to women as she settles into a new lifestyle in New York City. The 26-vear-old former White House intern has turned to female companionship after a string of' embarrassing dating disasters with men, The ENQUIRER has learned. "Monica is a cute girl!" one new galpal, trendy Manhattan hat designer Ivy Supersonic, told The ENQUIRER. "Like a lot of women, Monica can change her mind about men. Nowadays, bisexuality is more than acceptable - it's chic! "I'm sure her sexual preference in men hasn't been damaged, but if she wants to be around more women, hey, that's great!" Ivy, 32, met Monica recently when the Zippergate girl unveiled her line of handbags in New York. Now Monica is helping Ivy market her line of high-fashion hats. "I'm hoping I can be a partner with her," said Ivy. "She's very comfortable to be round." On March 20, Monica turned heads by showing up at a party at the nightspot Serena's with pretty AIDS activist Victoria Leacock, a filmmaker and author of the book "Signature Flowers." Two nights later, Monica and Victoria, 36, were out on the town again, this time sharing an intimate dinner at the restaurant Pastis in New York's ..meat-packing district," a neighborhood that comes alive at night with transvestites, drag queens and bisexual sex clubs According to a patron at Pastis, Victoria was sporting a red satin handbag that Monica had specially made for her. "Victoria lives a pretty freewheeling kind of life," reveals an insider. "She makes no bones about her sexual exploits. And now she fights for gay and lesbian causes. She and Monica have become fast friends. "Monica told me, 'I am loving my newfound freedom in New York and I'm loving hanging out with Victoria. "'She makes me laugh and she's not afraid to say what's on her mind. I need that kind of positive influence in my life right now."' Monica has also been seen around New York with another galpal, a blonde with short-cropped hair. The ENQUIRER revealed in February that Monica's friends feared she was at the end of her rope. Lonely and depressed, she was under the care of a new psychiatrist and telling pals she couldn't find a boyfriend who doesn't "just want sex." Her romance with New York attorney Jonathan Marshall had lasted several months, but she finally drove him off by . pestering him with phone calls and unwanted gifts - even though he was trying to ditch her. Then unlucky-in-love Monica played the field until she hooked up with wacky MTV comedian, Tom Green, earlier this year. But the friendship hit the skids after Green brought her to his native Canada and publicly humiliated her by making her take part in a self-promoting press event. Monica later found out Green wasn't interested in her romantically - in fact, he'd been secretly dating Drew Barrymore! Following the Green fiasco, Monica tried a last-ditch effort to get back together with first love Andy Bleiler, the married high school drama teacher she had an affair with. Monica attempted to contact a relative of Bleiler and "when told Andy was in love with someone else after leaving his wife, it came as another crushing blow to Monica," said a source. When The ENQUIRER contacted Andy Bleiler, he said: "I don't want anything to do with her." In search of a new lease on life, ,,Monica moved from Los Angeles to New York in early March, settling into a $3,000-a-month studio apartment in Greenwich Village. -And now she's spending her time with women. "It's only when I'm with my girlfriends that I get any real friendship, any sincerity," she told a close friend. Even before her move to New York, Monica had
[CTRL] TRACKING Drug Suspects
from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:607893"TRACKING Drug Suspects/A - Subject: TRACKING Drug Suspects From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2000 3:46 AM Message-id: 3NlI4.2557$[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Office of National Drug Control Policy and the Counterdrug Technology Assessment Center (C.T.A.C. of Washington, D.C.) has intrusively arranged to provide at least 37 statewide and local global police-state agencies in America with G.P.S. Beast-Tracking equipment to supposedly TRACK and MONITOR suspects of crime (anybody who doesn't follow world mandates). The Minnesota State patrol has recently tested the tracking technology, much to their satisfaction. The various law enforcement agencies covertly sneak up and secretly place the beast tracking units on any vehicle they want, but for now they reportedly are using the tracking technology on "drug suspects." After the secret spying technology is placed on a potential suspects automobile, the law enforcement officers will fly around in surveillance aircraft where the supposed suspects automobile tracking units will send tracking signals to the aircraft's onboard computer system. The tracking system is further uplinked to G.P.S. tracking satellites for global tracking abilities. The software capabilites of the tracking entities allows continuous tracking of multiple automobiles, or any vehicle, on a moving map display or "so that airborne officers can keep track of all players." Reportedly the Minnesota State patrol's helicopter surveillance units have reduced the needed amount of manpower time needed to spy on people using the Beast-Tracking technology. Reportedly a pilot of the Minnesota State Patrol recently stated "observing and tracking a vehicle from the air can be a difficult task. You must constantly watch the target vehicle so as not to lose it, you must be knowledgeable of the roadways you are over, and you must stay far enough away from the suspect to not be noticed." The problem is all anybody has to say is you are on drugs, you are involved in a drug-related group in some way, are you are a pusher. Whether this is accurate or not, this is all it takes to make you a "drug suspect." Verbal confirmation alone is enough to have a person sentenced to life in a harsh Federal prison under the newer Federal Drug Sentencing Guidelines of the 1990's. People have actually been given 50+ years in a Federal prison because some other convicted and sentenced member of a drug group testified that a person was involved in some way or another in a drug group, without any other further proof or evidence whatsoever. No I don't think this is a good idea. I can't see where the United States Constitution gives law enforcement authorities the ability to Beast Track and Monitor anybody they desire. In fact it doesn't. This is "undue process," but they will legally reclassify this as normal police surveillance. Besides as we've been told during the duration of the Clinton Regime, "The United States Constitution is old-fashioned and out-dated." This is what the peoples of the United States and the rest of the world can expect without the legal stipulations and the forceful implementations that allow them to have freedoms and liberties. As usual, if they give a dictatorship the abilities to spy on you, they will. That's they way it's historically always been and there's no indication whatsoever that will ever change with the present state of humanity. The peoples who founded America weren't stupid. They knew how to implement the most successful and prosperous form of government this world has ever known because of the proven atrocities they had experienced and the history of the world's atrocities in general. The knew exactly what they were doing. This present generation isn't going to respect their freedoms and liberties until they lose them and then it's going to be too late! - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A
[CTRL] beatniks+secret agents+LSD+aliens=conspiracy
from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:607402"beatniks+secret agents+LSD+aliens=conspiracy/A - Subject: beatniks+secret agents+LSD+aliens=conspiracy From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (Scarien) Date: Sat, Apr 8, 2000 8:10 AM Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scarien Nation Now Be One written by Dr. D. Sturbin A HREF="http://members.aol.com/scarien/book.htm"http://members.aol.com/scari en/book.htm/A - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
You can turn any new city/new village project into a demonstration of your cultural ideals. FWP. On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: I'm Canadian, and I've never heard of it, so don't feel to badly :) Tara (near Ottawa, Ontario) -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Don Huffman Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] [ChristianPatriot] Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites Dear FWP: Sorry but you must understand that few Americans know anything about what is going on in the great country of Canada. Culture of Life on Vancouver Island? Please define as I was ignorant. We get little news about Canada here. Sincerely, a former Canadian from Kennedy, Sask. Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Christianity/Pro-Life as Conspiracy, was Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites.
Tara: I have suffered the persecution and hatred of the so-called "Christian" community in this country since I published Life-Gazette in the late 80's and early 90's. The early issues of this tabloid were dictributed in some churches here and printed at Trinity Western University. After about 200,000 copies were turned out, the "Christian" community decided to pull its support out from Life-Gazette. So my Life-Gazette journalism went online and now I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want the details sub to that list as it is off-topic here. Later today I will post to Life-Gazette the latest round in my litigation against Missions Fest Vancouver. I'll post just the summary to CTRL. This case is before the Ombudsman of BC and BC Human Rights Commission. It will go to the Canadian Human Rights Commission next if I don't get through to people at this level. You see, Life-Gazette was from the very beginning dedicated to articulating a "Godly Society" in accordance with the preamble to the Charter/Canadian Constitution: "Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law". That preamble was printed in every issue. THAT IS WHAT THE BOGUS CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT articulated. If Life-Gazette had been dedicated to more "schlock", to pious platitudes, metaphysical mumbo jumbo and lame liturgy all would have been well for it. But Jesus Christ never, ever lied. Our Lord said, "You will be hated of all people". This community of churchocrats will hate and persecute those of us who stand for a "Culture of Truth" or "Culture of Christ" or "Culture of Life" or whatever you want to call it. And this community of persecutors calls itself "Christian" and "Pro-life". So the BLIND PHARISEES hated by Christ have changed their names and they now call themselves Christians and Pro-Lifers. FWP. On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Tara wrote: clipped above And I'm not going to discuss abortion anymore. People become very cruel when they find out you're pro-life or Christian. This list has pointed that out to me very clearly. The only reasonable responses against my position have come from Bill Shannon. At least he hasn't insisted on name-calling. But tough. It's what I believe and you're not going to change that. Tara nessie wrote: Are you equally active against the blockade of Iraq which has killed over a half million people so far, almost all of them women and children? If not, you're a hypocrite. Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: Maybe I'll retract and call you simple deceivers (more polite than liars). So all you want to do is protect people in the sense of keep the vital signs going. NO WONDER THE ABORTION RATE IS SO HIGH!! Who would want to bring a child into your world with no notion of QUALITY of Life. YOU are the cause of the abortion industry. Hanoi Jane was right. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence
[CTRL] Political Internet Sites Studied (fwd)
From: Committee of Concerned Journalists 1150 18th Street, N.W., Suite 775 Washington, D.C. 20036 http://www.journalism.org/concern.html CCJ has released ePolitics: A Study of the 2000 Presidential Campaign on the Internet. This first-ever study of online political coverage examined and evaluated how twelve popular news sites covered the primary campaign. For the 6 Page Study go to: http://www.journalism.org/epolitics.html Political Internet Sites Studied By Deb Riechmann Associated Press Writer Monday, April 10, 2000; 10:35 a.m. EDT WASHINGTON More and more Americans are going online to get information about this year's presidential election, according to a study that details shortcomings about political sites but discounts concern that they contain mostly "rumor and innuendo." Some World Wide Web sites offer all the content of a good newspaper plus other political information, such as biographies of candidates and video of debates, said Tom Rosenstiel, vice chairman of the Committee of Concerned Journalists, which released the study Sunday. Other sites are managed by people with little news judgment and are updated frequently but for no particular reason, he said. Some political Web sites do not offer links to related Internet sites featuring unfiltered information such as transcripts of politicians' speeches, for instance, as opposed to reporters' stories about them. And some are just hard to find. "Scroll, click, scroll, click, scroll, click. Whew," the study said, detailing the steps needed to reach them. Once accessed, political news was plentiful. Two-thirds of all the "front pages" of the Web sites examined had at least 16 stories related to the campaign, the study said. Yet substance was sparse. Only 2 percent of the lead stories dealt with the candidates' policy positions, their records or core beliefs. Still, the top political stories found on the Internet were well-sourced, according to the study, which monitored two national newspapers and 12 Internet sites on six days of the primary season between late February and Super Tuesday, March 7. "Contrary to the idea that the net is full of opinionated argument or unsubstantiated innuendo, campaign sourcing on the Internet was strong," the study said. "More than one in five of all lead stories had more than seven sources. And overall, more than half had at least five sources." Almost one-quarter of Americans say they now get some election information from the Internet, the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press reported in a survey released in February. And in a study last month, the Annenberg Public Policy Center reported that more Americans were surfing the Internet for political news at a time when the three major television network newscasts averaged just 36 seconds a night about presidential candidates. "I think that it's pretty clear that the potential of the Internet has not been fully tapped," said Rosenstiel, director of the committee's Project for Excellence in Journalism. "The sites that are mixing video, audio, newspaper and wire service stories and making it easy to find, they're the ones that are tapping the potential of the Web." Committee of Concerned Journalists: http://www.journalism.org/concern.html © Copyright 2000 The Associated Press = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory
[CTRL] Christopolis
"Christopolis" was a title I found when I did a search on the planning of model societies throughout the history of Christendom. From ca. 300 AD onward when the Arenas of Rome were closed as Eusebius tells us in "Historia Ecclesiastica" scores of complete Christian nations were spawned. Today you will be subjected to hatred, persecution, ridicule and ostracization by the "Christian" community for trying to rekindle such planning. These "Christians" and "Pro-Lifers" will make your life pretty damned hellish as they have mine for the effort. Any ideas as to why? FWP. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:14:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], q [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FUTURE-CITIES] Jerusalem and the Planning of Future World Cities. I noticed that a couple of people from India just subscribed so I thought I'd post a reminder on Navi Mumbai or New Bombay. Navi Mumbai was a city-built-anew for 250,000 in the 1970's. Today it is over 1,000,000. There is a book in the Vancouver library by Chief Architect Charles Correa on Navi Mumbai called "The New Landscape". The issue is not whether Navi Mumbai was a great success or not. It solved some problems and didn't solve others. Likewise "International Village" in Vancouver has just been completed and it solved some problems and didn't solve others. The issue has to do with putting a city or village (or individual home) under the microscope so to speak and PERFECTING IT. With this new blessing of the Internet and with world population increasing at 100,000,000/year I think we will have many opportunities in years to come to perfect human habitat at all levels. It has long struck me that those who offer an ideology to humankind, whether it is Hindu, Buddhist, Christian, Atheist or whatever also have an obligation to spell out a real, in-this-world way of life which "makes sense". Charles Correa gives a sketch of a "MANDALA" for a city in Ancient India. This was a preliminary "architectural drawing" for the proposed new city and it was said to be INSPIRED BY THE IDEOLOGY of those people. That is what is significant. Prime Minister Chretien of Canada is now in the Middle East on a trade and peace-keeping tour. If Israel-Palestine go back to UN-proposed borders from 1947, Jerusalem would be neither Isreali nor Palestinian. It would be an International City. Why not then have Jerusalem serve as that "light unto the nations" which will plan Future Cities and Future Villages the world over? FWP. http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2646/7/_/529939/_/955382251/ *** Space has unlimited carrying capacity *** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1
SkeptiNews 000410a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/09_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No telepathic virus was channeled during production of this bulletin... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Choose A Monument: http://home.sunrise.ch/hermi/monument/monument.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Bright Green Light/Orb/UFO Over Arlington TX: http://caus.org/mu041000.htm # Spectacular Yukon Fireball Mystery Continues - coincidences, secrets, and ominous speculation: http://www.whitehorsestar.com/News.lasso?r=33262 # THERE! During the 1991 solar eclipse, Mexico City's skies were filled with UFOs. http://ufos.about.com/culture/ufos/library/weekly/aa040300a.htm @ Extraterrestrials in Biblical Prophecy. Since the public uproar of the late 1940's over innumerable sightings and possible govt conspiracies to cover-up the truth; which has persisted for over fifty years; religious significance has been attributed to these "visitors'. Their celestial origins becomes a significant associative factor between their deliver- ance of extraterrestrial messages, and those historical harbingers of God's word, the angels. http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/ufology/23701 : Have you been visited by aliens/angels/deities/demons/robots/me lately? Do they cast fiery fragments across the firmament? Do they glow/flash/sizzle? Have govt/corporate/church agents conspired in coverups? What do they mean? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New Cydonia Images - Preliminary Data Analysis. 2 years after MGS reimaged the Face on April 5, 1998 MSSS/JPL released a handful of new images over Cydonia. Two cover the Fort in its entirety and one captured most of the Tholus. http://www.psrw.com/~markc/Articles/April_2000/April2000.html # Malin Space Sciences Releases New Mars Cydonia Images - behold and wonder: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/4_5_00_cydonia/index.html # SPACEVIEWS 2000.15: Cosmonauts Reoccupy Mir - Mir's New Challenge: Finding Customers - Rudder Bug May Delay Shuttle Launch - Ejected Protoplanet Most Likely Star - ESA Delays Shipment of Cluster Sats - JPL Names Mars Honcho - Ulysses Finds Extremely Long Comet Tail - Analysts Count 2,147 Sats to Launch This Decade - Poll Finds Americans Continue to Support NASA - SETI: Still Searching after 40 Years - NEOs, Planetary Defense and Government: A View from the Pentagon: http://www.spaceviews.com/2000/0410/ : Have you seen anything mysterious/perplexing/impossible in space lately? Did you report/analyze/market your discovery? How are you being received? Do you have a favorite satellite? D'ya have to share it with anyone? Greedily? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Cultists chased deadly dream. KANUNGU, Uganda (AP) They came to this quiet village over the luxuriant green hills of SW Uganda,some seeking something to believe in,others the comfort of a home and still others the shared joy of speeding to Heaven when Earth stopped. Most were Roman Catholics grown dissatisfied with their church or simply drawn to the movement by ties of blood. But all became dupes of swindlers who pried loose their possessions with assurances of a place in Paradise. The promise of happiness proved deadly in the hands of what Uganda's veep called "diabolic, malevolent criminals masquerading as holy and religious people."For at least 924 cult followers burned,choked or stabbed to death, it was all just a counterfeit dream. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565549709-da6 : Have you chased any deadly/lively/indeterminate dreams lately? D'ya regret your chase? Are dreams better than reality? Can you distinguish between gen- uine and counterfeit dreams? How? When you wake up, where are you? Really?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MCCAIN SAYS HE MAY CAMPAIGN WITH BUSH SOON - can be bought for the right price - http://CNN.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/04/09/mccain.bush/ # PRESIDENTIAL HELICOPTER PILOTS AMONG MARINE CRASH VICTIMS - Clinton body count rises - deliberate? http://CNN.com/2000/US/04/09/plane.crash.02/ # The 509th Bomb Wing's History - From Flying Disks To Flying Wings - Gustatus Similis Pullus: http://www.sightings.com/general/509th.htm # IMF protesters gather at Capitol - destroy international capitalism: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565580675-c1f # Washington braces for IMF protests - water cannon, teargas stockpiled: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565549611-1c5 # The NAFTA Corridors And The Panama Canal Connection - subverting America for fun and profits: http://www.sightings.com/general/naftacanal.htm # MIT Readies Net-Generation Bar Code - Mark of the Beast to be cybernated, mandatory:
[CTRL] 'The Skull n' Bones' - Insider Secrets
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:35:55 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:SNET: 'The Skull n' Bones' - Insider Secrets To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'The Skulls' - Insider Secrets Of The New World Orderlies Review By Uri Dowbenko http://www.steamshovelpress.com/ 4-5-00 What if you were tapped -- invited to join the world's most powerful secret society -- the Order of Skull and Bones -- a membership so exclusive that it virtually guarantees success in the material world? What if you could join the ranks of global movers and shakers like George Herbert Walker Bush (Director of CIA, US Ambassador to the UN, and President of the United States), George W. Bush (party animal and cokehead screw-up, Governor of Texas and future President of the United States), and other members of the Power Elite of industry, education, banking and media? Would you do it? And what would be the consequences? Written by John Pogue (US Marshalls) and directed by Rob Cohen (Dragonheart, Daylight), "The Skulls" is an entertaining albeit cursory look at the hidden world of secret societies. Luke McNamara (Joshua Jackson, "Dawson's Creek") is a working class guy, who happens to be the varsity crew team captain at an Ivy League school, obviously Yale University. His best friends are Will (Hill Harper), a student journalist, and the rich and blonde Chloe (Leslie Bibb). Invited to join a super-secret society called the Skulls, Luke's priorities and friendships start to change. His soul-mate -- he's bonded to a Skulls' chum by revealing his most intimate secrets -- is Caleb Mandrake (Paul Walker), a rich kid with a strong track record for getting into trouble and getting bailed out by his father, Litten (Craig T. Nelson). It's really hard not to think of Bush Jr. and Bush Sr. Senator Leveritt (William Petersen) is Litten's own soul-mate, who is blackmailed when he doesn't want to play ball with Mandrake anymore. When his friend Will is killed, Luke's world is turned completely upside down. The real life analogue of the Skulls is the Order of Skull and Bones, a Yale-based secret society which has spread its tentacles throughout the highest echelons of government, finance and industry. America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones (Liberty House Press, Box 80650, Billings, MT 59108) by former Hoover Institution historian Antony C. Sutton remains the classic must-read history of this group and its inordinate influence in global affairs. "Those on the inside know it as the Order," Sutton begins. "Others have known it for more than 150 years as Chapter 322 of a German secret society. More formally for legal purposes, The Order was incorporated as The Russell Trust in 1856. It was also known as the Brotherhood of Death. Those who make light of it, or want to make fun of it, call it Skull and Bones, or just plain Bones." "The American chapter of this German order was founded in 1833 at Yale University by General William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft who in 1876 became Secretary of War in the Grant Administration. Alphonso Taft was the father of William Howard Taft, the only man to be both President and Chief Justice of the United States." "The Order is not just another campus Greek letter fraternal society with passwords and handgrips, common to most campuses," Sutton continues. "Chapter 322 is a secret society whose members are sworn to silence. It only exists on the Yale campus. It has rules. It has ceremonial rites. It is not at all happy with prying probing citizens known among inititiates as outsiders or vandals. Its members always deny membership... Above all the Order is powerful, unbelievably powerful. If the reader will persist and examine the evidence to be presented [in the book] which is overwhelming, there is no doubt his view of the world will suddenly come sharply into focus with almost frightening clarity." In real life, The Order meets on Deer Island in the St. Lawrence River and "the most likely potential member is from a Bones family who is energetic, resourceful, political and probably an amoral team player. A man who understands that to get along you have to go along. A man who will sacrifice himself for the good of the team." According to Sutton, who in 1983, received an eight-inch batch of documents including the membership list, the Order is a secret society dominated by old line American families and new wealth which has existed from 1833 to the present. These families include: Lord (1635, Cambridge, Mass), Bundy (1635, Boston, Mass) Phelps (1630, Dorchester, Mass), Whitney (1635, Watertown, Mass), Perkins (1631, Boston, Mass), Stimson (1635, Watertown, Mass), Taft (1679, Braintree, Mass) Wadsworth (1632, Newtown, Mass), Gilman (1638, Hingham, Mass), Payne (Standard Oil), Davison (JP Morgan), Pillsbury (Flour Milling),
Re: [CTRL] Christopolis
Dear FWP, the "Christian" church has been subverted and misrepresented since before Paul the apostle died. Now, before I`m critcized for getting off topic I`d like to point out their is an enormous amount of evidence that shows how much effort the new age movement has put into invading organized Christian religon and changing key words in modern translations of the bible. The parallels betweem some Mormon rituals and what the Masons do is startling to say the least. I believe the powers trying to bring about one world government will do anything and everything to divide, rather than allow people to agree. America wa founded o the concept of religous freedom. Now the religon that brought this idea to fruition is narrow minded and prejudice. Quite a change. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Australian gun control/crime stats
Please help me out a little. I'm writig an article. In it I point out that since Australia's recent draconian gun grab crime levels have shot up across the board. I would like to site a couple references on this. It would be nice if they were Austrailian in origin, but it's not necessary. Thanks in advance. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: [wtpatltotrtf] VIRUS ALERT WARNING: Someone Inserted a WS SCRIPT kak.worm as kak.htm on List Emails:
From: Mike [U.A.I.C.-VT.] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Receipant List Suppressed: Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 12:03 AM Subject: [wtpatltotrtf] VIRUS ALERT WARNING: Someone Inserted a WS SCRIPT kak.worm as kak.htm on List Emails: Friday,April 7, 2K 11:45 PM.ET.*This is a SPECIAL MESSAGE TO THE LIST OWNER/MEMBERS* I have not been able to Respond to the SIT- REP LIST and Reply to Normal Emails for Several Days Now.Just so happens I went to STAPLES Office Supply and bought a NORTON ANTI VIRUS 2000 Version 6.0 Program. I Bought this after Emails That I had Received started to grind my computer Outlook Express 5.0 Email Program, and then the Computer to a Hault. After I loaded the NORTON 2000 ANTIVIRUS Program, I "Discovered" a BAD VIRUS that "Someone unknown to me" had Sent over the Email that I do Believe Inflected this List or [CRTL]Lists.I Received the Following Alert For This Virus: W S SCRIPT kakworm, FOUND IN: Windows\kak.htm I Notified My ISP Provider After the "NORTON AntiVirus 2000" had Notified me of the "kak.worm" Virus. The Technician said this one is 4 months old, Is Derived From FRANCE! And it ATTACHES It self to the Receipant's Email, Address Book Names/Email List. When you Open the Email, The Virus Causes the Email/Computer To Lock Up, causing a virtual freese. The ISP Provider Ran Me Thru "AntiVirus Steps" to Delete it off the Email, Address Book and off the Computer. After following the Procedure, I was able to CLEAN my Email and Computer. The ISP Tech. Said this "Worm" attached itself without my knowledge to my computer. As well as they had to have formal computer skills to Write this; i.e. a Hacker With the Intent of Disrupting the List and Members own Computers. And also suggested to Contact the List Moderator and Members TO OBTAIN NORTON ANITVIRUS AND RUN IT TO CLEAN YOUR SERVER AND MEMBERS LIST ADDRESS's. After I Cleaned the Virus Out of my computer; I Was Able to Start Receiving the Emails and Web Sites. I have a "Few Minor Glitches" to resolve. Thanks, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Please Follow Thru on This Idea.] Own a large list that is hosted on another service? Move it to eGroups and earn $500 http://click.egroups.com/1/2979/5/_/415976/_/955172983/ To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Inside Cover Story (http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/4/7/85
Title: NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 7:12 AM Subject: Inside Cover Story (http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/4/7/85 FYI Jack ThompsonFormer Reno Loyalist Part of Elians Legal Team Advertise Your Banner Here With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Friday April 7, 2000; 9:58 AM EDT Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth The Clinton administration wants Cuban raft boy Elian Gonzalez returned to his rightful father. But Juan Miguel Gonzalez's legal claim to that title may not be as strong as once thought. Six-year-old Elian, it turns out, was actually born more than two years after Gonzalez divorced the boy's late mother Elisabeth Brotons in 1991, undermining claims that the Cuban hotel worker has an unquestionable right to the boy's custody. "Juan Miguel and Elisabeth met in junior high and were together, by his estimate, a total of 15 years," reported The Miami Herald on Friday. "They were married in 1985, then divorced in 1991, a decision prompted, according to relatives, by Elisabeth's miscarriages and resulting depression." Seven of Brotons' earlier pregnancies ended in miscarriage, which apparently caused Juan Miguel to seek an end to his marriage. But Gonzalez claimed to United States immigration officials that he and his ex-wife decided to continue to try for children two years after their marriage broke up. Gonzalez has offered no explanation for the strange decision. Despite Elisabeth's successful pregnancy and Elian's healthy birth, Juan Miguel declined to reconcile the split with his ex-wife, and instead took a new wife who bore him a son last year. Cuba's state newspaper Granma claims that the divorced couple went to a specialized obstetrics hospital in Havana and, after faithfully following doctor's orders, Elisabeth conceived Elian. But the boy's paternity has never been established scientifically. Further weakening Juan Miguel's claim on the boy; Brotons had sole legal custody over Elian -- though neighbors in Castro's Cuba say the boy often spent time with his biological father. Inside Cover Stories Judicial Watch Sues Reno on FALN Pardons Hundreds of Florida Police to Sieze Elian Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth Elian Protestors Plan Civil Disobediance Reno's Heavy Hand in Elian Case Could Lead to Civil Unrest Justice Dept. to be Sued Over Clinton's Terrorist Pardons Elian Spotted at Home Elian Gonzalez Reported Missing More Inside Cover Stories Home · Search · Free E-mail News
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I've never heard of anyone who died trying to get out of a non-communist country. Have you forgotten Nazi Germany? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Let us not forget that when a women dies by any kind of an abortion her innocent child dies too. It's NOT a child. It's part of her body. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
- Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I've never heard of anyone who died trying to get out of a non-communist country. Have you forgotten Nazi Germany? And how about crossing the Mexican border? What was it, 16 in the last couple of weeks? People are killed in illegal border crossings all the time whether communism is involved or not. This is now a custody dispute. Amelia A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: I'm certain your are right. America did keep Sadaam in power. The Brits pulled us off him. That I'm sure. Britain is our pimp. See? We agree on something. We probably agree on most things; we human. We all need to not let hot button issues like abortion, the death penalty, and religion in general distract us from our common enemies. We don't even have to like each other to unite against common enemies. let's talk about them instead. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Every abortion leads to the death of something sacred to God; but not every abortion leads to the death of the mother. That is logical, isn't it? This statement is predicated on the a priori assumption that there is such a thing as "God." Belief in God is not a product of logic but of faith. Belief in ANYTHING is a product of faith. Doubt is what is logical. I counted the times I believed and was later proven correct. I counted the times I doubted and was later proven correct. Doubt wins hands down. That's logic. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa. Jews are an ethnic group. Some Jews are religious. Some aren't. Practicing the religion doesn't make one a Jew. Having a Jewish mother does. Really. Ask one. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: There are any number of reasons a person may give as a COP OUT for becoming addicted, but it still comes down to the person's choice I choose to be addicted to caffiene because it makes me more productive, MUCH more productive. That's not a cop out. That's a logical choice. It's not a crutch; it's a stilt. If my personal drug of choice was made illegal in just as arbitrary manner as were other people's drugs of choice, I would not feel or act one bit differently. It's my body and nobody else's damn business. Sometimes addiction is a VERY logical choice. Even when it's not, it's still a personal matter and none of society's business. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Clinton needs to defect
Let Elian Gonzales go back to his father. BUT let's persuade Clinton to defect to China A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
I write: AA says that something causes people to drink excessively, in this case it does seem that her having an abortion was the cause. June writes: If AA says that, they're nuts. Nothing 'causes' anyone to drink or to abuse drugs. There are any number of reasons a person may give as a COP OUT for becoming addicted, but it still comes down to the person's choice. I suspect your friend would have become an alcoholic even if she'd never had an abortion, the abortion is her convenient 'justification' for her decision to abuse alcohol. I tend to agree with you that a person makes a decision to overindulge in drinking, drugs, etc. I also think that sometimes something causes one to drink etc. excessively. This person may be weak, or just can't deal with guilt, pressure, or perceived inadequacies. Everyone deals with bad things in life differently. Some people overeat or nearly starve themselves because of things that happen to them. If you've ever talked to a psychiatrist, they seem to think that all unordinary behavior stems from childhood, at least that is what they investigate first. I have a distrust for psychiatry in general, but sometimes they may have a point. It is psychiatrists associated with AA that think excessive drinking is motivated by something other than a desire to get drunk (personal problems). Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
In a message dated 00-04-10 08:25:43 EDT, June writes: No, I'm saying NO mob, no matter what their political leanings, have the right to ram their political ideology down the throats of others. And just whom is my 'ilk', Bob? ;-) Unfortunately many "mobs" have rammed their political ideology down our throats, including the rich, the Brits, the socialists, the facists, nazis, government, corporations, the list is endless and there seems to be little we can do about it, even other countries such as Red China can buy our representatives. I was wondering just who are people of my "ilk" as well, since you mentioned that in a reply ô¿~ Let's start with the anti-loitering laws in Miami... If you were mayor, I'm certain loitering would not be permitted. I don't know what 'international law' says, nor what international governing body you are going by. _I_ go by the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and the laws of the individual states of the Union. Since this has been blown up to a case of two sovereign nations arguing about a child, I would think that some sort of international body (UN?) cringe may be able to solve this problem. I wish our government would play by the rules and govern by the Constitution, but when someone like Clinton says "The Constitution is what I say it is" then we have become lawless. Maybe the fact that his Mother died trying to get him out of a Communist country says something. It says nothing. If you bend the law when it's someone escaping from a country you don't like, then how can you uphold the law when it's someone escaping from a country who's an ally, or perhaps escaping from your own country. If the tables were turned, and this kid's mother died as she was trying to escape the U.S. and enter Cuba, what would your argument be if relatives in Havana claimed to have a better right to have custody of the kid than the father back in the U.S.? What if a mother who brought her child to visit relatives in Iraq suddenly died, and the Iraqi relatives took custody of the child, and claimed they had a superior claim to custody? Would you argue as vehemently for THEIR right to custody over the custody of the American father back in the States? And if we decide that Elian Gonzalez is deserving of political asylum, why then are we turning away thousands of Haitians, many of whom are also children, who are also seeking political asylum? Very good points. I've never looked at this situation that way, but it does make sense to me. We have no idea what was in the mother's mind; according to her own mother, she had a good life in Cuba, and according to her mother was not unhappy and was not political. Her mother has been quoted as saying she suspects the new husband was behind the decision to leave Cuba, and she believes her daughter was pressured into going. Hardly the description of someone seeking political asylum. I didn't hear this, but I wonder if her Mother was pressured into saying that. I have no trust of Castro. I still remember the Cuban Missle Crisis when I was 11 years old and living in Houston, which was a probable target of those missles. I'm not so sure it's government elites we should be looking for, but other 'elites' Could you be more specific, speculate a little. A man can be stalked as easily as a woman can be... Anyone who knew me, wouldn't stalk me ... they would know I have a 12 gauge. I couldn't imagine being stalked by a woman. Sure it's a case of U.S. law. It is applied every day to illegal immigrants from countries other than Cuba. It is applied to Haitians and Mexicans. There is no reason for 'international law' to become involved. It is solely the province of U.S. immigration law. And since when did 'international law' take precedence over the Constitution of the United States, and the laws of the sovereign states of the Union? You have again made a very valid point when you mention the immigration laws. You are absolutely right about that, and I'm wrong. Unfortunately many of our freedoms are in jeopardy by treaties with the UN. Treaties are the only "laws" that can take precedence over the Constitution. Clinton has been pressing treaties having to do with UN environmental issues. (Parks and Rivers) Regards, Bob Stokes/PRE/HTML A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Dear Reader: Is a baby a part of mother in the womb? Seems this concept is double- think to me. Any women out there agree with that? Sincerely, Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Dear Nessie: I'm never going to stop crying out against injustice as human reason so directs. Abortion is the greatest injustice in the world today. Yes, we can agree on many things but I'm not going to ostritch size the pro- lem in the sands of denial. Very truly yours, Don Huffman -- [Mode Selection] ForceExisting=no ExistingSRFile= ForceNew=no IntlMode=no [New Acct Mode] AskSaveAcctInfo=yes SavePasswords=yes AskPersonalInfo=yes AskSurvey=yes AskShareInfo=yes AskBillingInfo=yes RegServer=RegServ.SR [Existing Acct Mode] RegPodURL=http://home.netscape.com/comprod/upgrades/index.html ShowIntro2=yes ShowPhones=no AskName=yes AskLogin=yes AskTTY=no AskEmail=yes AskPhone=yes AskDNS=yes AskHosts=yes AskRegister=yes [General] CardTypes="AX,MC,VI,DC" A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
AFTER "LISTENING TO YOUR OPINIONS ON SEVERAL OTHER LISTS, A FEW I AM SURE YOU WERE THROWN OFF OF, MANY OF US ARE DAMN TIRED OF YOUR SELF INDULGENT PONTIFICATION WITHOUT REAL RESEARCH. BOY ARE YOU A LIBERAL BONEHEAD? OR WHAT? NO COMMON SENSE. WHY DON'T YOU GO TAKE A NAP. THEIR CALLING YOU BACK AT THE HOME. DID YOU TAKE YOUR LUVOX TODAY DEAR ??? OR FORGET YOUR PMS [Pretty Mean Syndrome] Medication ??? YOU SUFFER FROM EXCESSIVE INTELLECTIAL FLATULENCE. AND DON'T KNOW WHEN TO SHUT OFF THE COMPUTER AND LEAVE OTHERS BE. OR ARE YOU A INTELLECTUAL SADIST? IF YOU ARE SO DAMN "FONDA JANE" WHY DON'T YOU LIVE WITH HER. AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT - PLEASE DO SO. HAVE A NICE DAY. The Silent Majority on this List Feel the Same Way. !!! ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
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Re: [CTRL] Christopolis
"Let One Hundred Flowers Bloom" I say. But I wish they would come right out with what their WAY OF LIFE is and stop hiding behind a lot of crap. That goes for the whole bunch from Mormons to Muslims, although I think with the Muslims you have 50 "officially" Muslim countries and they could just say, Look at Nation X and you will see what we are talking about. Ditto for Joos. And Buddhists etc. Can Christians point to a model of Christian Culture? FWP. On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Jeff Sandlin wrote: Dear FWP, the "Christian" church has been subverted and misrepresented since before Paul the apostle died. Now, before I`m critcized for getting off topic I`d like to point out their is an enormous amount of evidence that shows how much effort the new age movement has put into invading organized Christian religon and changing key words in modern translations of the bible. The parallels betweem some Mormon rituals and what the Masons do is startling to say the least. I believe the powers trying to bring about one world government will do anything and everything to divide, rather than allow people to agree. America wa founded o the concept of religous freedom. Now the religon that brought this idea to fruition is narrow minded and prejudice. Quite a change. http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/Jeffsonceandfuture http://community.webtv.net/oldschool2/JeffSandlins A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2
SkeptiNews 000410b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/09_04_2000.html * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh? * Site of latest notices, excuses, news/views: http://skeptilog.pitas.com * No creationists were vindicated during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Geologic Ages and Events: http://www.moonboy.com/sms/tables.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Rwanda probe studies gorillas - Reptilioid probe studies humans: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565561747-ff8 # Reading Gorillas' Future: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9653725 @ WHAT IS HUMAN NATURE? To Christians, human beings are easy to identify. We are merely the fallen children of God, out of favour with our creator, and trying to find our way home. To Darwinists we're unique as the only hair- less species of ape. http://www.arthurchappell.clara.net/humannature.htm @ THE MAN-MACHINE AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. For thousands of years humans have wrestled with the question of their "human" nature. In particular, they've attempted to define themselves in relation to the animal kingdom. Arrogant twits... http://www.stanford.edu/group/SHR/4-2/text/mazlish.html : Are you human, special, half-divine, animalistic, clones? Do you have some inherent nature? Is it identifiable? Is "human nature" oxymoronic? Have you probed any primates lately? Have primates probed you? Was it stimulating?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Beyond Dolly: Patient, Heal Thyself. IT BEGAN, like many great endeavors, with a little curiosity and a lot of nerve. A couple of scientists playing around in a lab. What they found could transform medicine. Stem cells and immortality: http://theage.com.au/news/2408/A55511-2000Apr7.html # Human Genome Claim Disputed: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9653721 # Caution urged over genome hype: http://newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9652933 # For Cloning Pioneer, Biotechnology Holds Promise of Medical Gains - not to mention a nice bit of $$$: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?9649479 @ Suppose pig and potato DNA are combined to create self-fattened French fries. Are they kosher? There are two ways to answer this question. At least. http://www.philosophynews.com/philosopheye/PE2331.htm : What are the greatest prospects and problems associated with cloning? Do they encompass technology, ethics, religion, sex, politics, money, art? How far should/can/will you be cloned? Have you promoted cloning lately? Where? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # If God Is Suddenly So Popular, Why Are The Churches Empty? UK theatres are filled with Jesus-toon viewers, but polls find the Church one of the least respected institutions in Britain -- only the police are held in lower regard. http://www.lineone.net/express/00/04/02/news/n1820church-d.html # Goat doctor credits God - claims formula for AIDS serum came in a dream: http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/2000-04/09/095l-040900-idx.html # Jesus tops bunny - Chosen by majority polled as symbol of Easter - except for swim-suit competition: http://www.denverpost.com/news/news0408g.htm # Politico pulls painting - calls image of pope with eye patch 'anti-Chris- tian' -- http://www.oklahoman.com/cgi-bin/shart?ID=472041TP=getarticle # Pope beatifies 2 priests, 3 nuns, 15 horses a Russian bear - rite called 'bizarre': http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2565559578-920 : Have you seen any god(ling)s lately? Which deity d'ya most like to watch? Are they buff? Do they inspire you? Do they most often appear on the beach; in church/theatre/court/dreams; at cocktail/hashish/crack parties? Fuzzily? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Frakes to Guide 'Roswell' Toward Older Generation. 'Star Trek' star hopes an emphasis on science fiction will attract more adults to WB series about ET teens. "We really want to deal now with the mythology of the aliens." http://www.latimes.com/news/science/science/2410/t33760.html # Yukon UFOs: http://broadcast.com/shows/endoftheline/00archives.html # Vermont UFO report: http://playlist.broadcast.com/makeram.asp?id=365839 @ Sightings: http://ufos.about.com/culture/ufos/library/bldata/blsight2.htm @ Cold Fusion Real? http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion.html : What's your favorite ET/UFO/paranormal/religious myth? Are massive propa- ganda/disinformation/conditioning campaigns underway to program us to accept specific belief systems? Do the producers believe in aliens, gods, profits? @ Chips: http://209.145.38.129/psychops/Bio-Chip_Photos/bio-chip_photos.html @ Gas: http://209.145.38.129/psychops/Chemtrail_Photos/chemtrail_photos.html @ Crisis: http://209.145.38.129/psychops/New_Millennium/new_millennium.html @ MK-ULTRA: http://209.145.38.129/psychops/MK_ULTRA/mk_ultra.html _ _
[CTRL] easy mark and soft touch
Another sign that U.S. is being taken over. It is sad to witness our permissive federal and state governments collaborate with a Third World country to destroy the last vestiges of American culture and sovereignty ["Mexican politics come to L.A.," News, April 6] by allowing advisers for Mexican presidential candidates to campaign in California for election. No self-respecting country on the planet would permit -- and encourage -- foreign nationals to campaign within its borders. Our state and country is seen by foreigners as an "easy mark" and "soft touch" with laws to be exploited, not obeyed. Any who complain about this and those who play the time-worn, but effective, ploys of "freedom" and "human rights" are quickly labeled bigots or racists by our government and media. Bill Lawson Westminster, The Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of California http://www.ocregister.com/liberty/letters.shtml Bard If the Demo/Repub socialist thugs are returned to D.C. this Fall, this takeover will accelerate; mark my word. You have the Power to reverse these treasonous acts. I know there is a God and I know he hates injustice. I see the storm coming and I know His hand is in it. But if there is a place and a part for me, I believe that I am ready. -- Patrick J. Buchanan Reform Party News http://www.reformparty.org A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] asset-forfeiture
Drug war toll April 5, 2000 Not everyone will count the $5 million of taxpayers' money just awarded to the family of Donald P. Scott of Malibu as part of the cost of the war on drugs. But it should be included as part of the price society pays for keeping prohibitionist policies in place - and the money could be viewed as only a small part of the cost. Mr. Scott, who was 61 at the time, was shot to death by a Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy in October 1992. The deputies, along with officers from other local and federal law enforcement agencies, raided Mr. Scott's 200-acre ranch in hopes of finding evidence of marijuana cultivation. When Mr. Scott emerged sleepily from his bedroom carrying a pistol during a forced entry by officers, deputies opened fire. No drugs were found on the property. A later report by the Ventura County District Attorney noted that although Mr. Scott's property was in Ventura County, Ventura law enforcement officials had not been notified about the raid. The report concluded that the raid was almost certainly a coordinated multi-jurisdictional effort to seize Mr. Scott's property under federal asset-forfeiture laws. That kind of abuse of laws that allow the property of those accused of violating drug laws to be seized without a conviction (or in some cases even formal charges being filed) was not uncommon in the early 1990s. Mr. Scott's case and others led, after several years, to the passage of asset-forfeiture reform in the House this year. But reform cannot bring Mr. Scott back to his wife and four children. The award to his family - $4 million from Los Angeles County and $1 million from the federal government - will cost taxpayers money. But the real cost is the loss of trust in law enforcement and the concept of the rule of law that cases like this have helped to feed. http://www.ocregister.com/liberty/editorial3.shtml Bard The Demo/Repubs are two wings of the same bird of prey. Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe . . . inspecting the global underbelly: privacy, money laundering, espionage. http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ I know there is a God and I know he hates injustice. I see the storm coming and I know His hand is in it. But if there is a place and a part for me, I believe that I am ready. -- Patrick J. Buchanan Reform Party News http://www.reformparty.org A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] TEN REMARKABLE STEPS TO HUMAN LIBERTY
TEN REMARKABLE STEPS TO HUMAN LIBERTY 1. Three related developments put early limits on government. Beginning in the 11th century, people in Western Europe began to develop ways to limit the power of the state and to divide authority among different sections of society. First and foremost, the autonomy of church and state. In most societies throughout history, the government closely controlled or used religion for its own purposes. The "investiture controversy" in Europe began in the late 11th century when the Catholic Church began insisting that it, not the monarchs, ought to appoint all bishops. At the famous meeting at the castle of Canossa in Italy, German Emperor Henry IV gave in to the demands of Pope Gregory VII that government not interfere in church business. By limiting the state and breaking up power this way, an avenue was paved for the independence of the individual conscience. In America, our First Amendment codifies this right of the freedom of religion from government control. The struggle isn't over. In places like China, the government still tries to control churches, setting up "patriotic" churches loyal to the Beijing regime and forcing underground independent churches. The development of autonomous universities. Although schools for advanced study existed in some parts of the world in earlier times, in the early Middle Ages the first truly independent universities grew up separate from governments. The first true university was founded at Bologna late in the 11th century, according to Encyclopedia Britannica. "It became a widely respected school of canon and civil law. The first university to arise in northern Europe was the University of Paris, founded between 1150 and 1170." Soon, universities were sprouting up all over Europe, notably at Oxford and Cambridge in England. This precipitated a flourishing of learning, including the development of such things as eyeglasses and firearms (from gunpowder, an idea imported from China), and the beginnings of scientific inquiries. The institution of parliaments. Developing from the feudal counselors who advised the king -- and whose cooperation the king needed for major actions -- in the 13th century, parliaments grew into more representative bodies. Although their membership still included only the rich and powerful, the principle was established that people other than the king should have some control over government. This set the stage for such later beliefs as those outlined in the Declaration of Independence, that government derives its "just powers from the consent of the governed." When the founders attacked King George III "For suspending our own Legislatures...", they meant he had revoked rights to self-representation going back 500 years (or 700 years today). 2. Invention of the printing press and ... 3. the Internet. Freedom of speech is a wonderful concept, but it's of limited usefulness without the means to reach other people with one's ideas. The development of the modern printing process is credited to Gutenberg in 1452, whose idea for movable type didn't instantaneously change the world. But, accompanied by related developments in book-making, it allowed for the mass production of written materials, thereby sparking intellectual developments as well as the Protestant Reformation. More than 500 years later, the development of the Internet -- with or without the contributions of its self-described inventor, Al Gore! -- already is revolutionizing the way ideas are transmitted around the world. Previously, people were dependent on media gatekeepers to find out what's happening or to disseminate their ideas to others. Now, an abundance of information -- some accurate, some less so -- and opinions are available to anyone with a low-cost computer. And it's surprisingly inexpensive for even a novice to use e-mail or start a Web site. The changes are just starting to be felt, but this technological revolution is sure to be as meaningful in the next millennium as Gutenberg's invention was in this one. 4. The Scientific Method. Few developments of this millennium were as important to human progress and freedom as the development of the scientific method of open-ended experimentation (rather then reference to authority) designed not just to express natural phenomena in the precise language of mathematics but to test hypotheses objectively. Ideally, scientific experiments should be designed not just to prove a favorite theory but to have the potential to falsify them as well, and to be replicated by other scientists to determine if a consensus emerges from repeated experiments. Perhaps appropriately, the scientific method didn't emerge full-blown from some genius's speculations but evolved over centuries. And it was far from a sure thing that it would happen. If a few brilliant Islamic caliphs in Baghdad (who turned out to be atypical of Islamic rulers) hadn't sought out and translated Greek
[CTRL] Bush, GOP Gays [homos] to Meet...
Bush, GOP Gays to Meet... Salon.com Apr 8 2000 Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee who has made a point of not meeting with the Log Cabin Republicans -- the nation's leading Republican gay and lesbian organization -- has finally scheduled a meeting with gay Republicans for Thursday, in Austin, Texas. Bard BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth
http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.shtml?a=2000/4/7/85827
Elian ('Eli'zabeth Ju'an') will have had three 'Mothers' in the space of five months.
WOW!
Talk about a candidate for being dsyfunctional.
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Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth
The Clinton administration wants Cuban raft boy Elian Gonzalez returned to his rightful father. But Juan Miguel Gonzalez's legal claim to that title may not be as strong as once thought.
Six-year-old Elian, it turns out, was actually born more than two years after Gonzalez divorced the boy's late mother Elisabeth Brotons in 1991, undermining claims that the Cuban hotel worker has an unquestionable right to the boy's custody.
Juan Miguel and Elisabeth met in junior high and were together, by his estimate, a total of 15 years, reported The Miami Herald on Friday. They were married in 1985, then divorced in 1991, a decision prompted, according to relatives, by Elisabeth's miscarriages and resulting depression.
Seven of Brotons' earlier pregnancies ended in miscarriage, which apparently caused Juan Miguel to seek an end to his marriage. But Gonzalez claimed to United States immigration officials that he and his ex-wife decided to continue to try for children two years after their marriage broke up. Gonzalez has offered no explanation for the strange decision.
Despite Elisabeth's successful pregnancy and Elian's healthy birth, Juan Miguel declined to reconcile the split with his ex-wife, and instead took a new wife who bore him a son last year.
Cuba's state newspaper Granma claims that the divorced couple went to a specialized obstetrics hospital in Havana and, after faithfully following doctor's orders, Elisabeth conceived Elian. But the boy's paternity has never been established scientifically.
Further weakening Juan Miguel's claim on the boy; Brotons had sole legal custody over Elian -- though neighbors in Castro's Cuba say the boy often spent time with his biological father.
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[CTRL] VOTE.COM Decriminalize hospital drop-offs of unwanted babies?
http://www.vote.com/vote/6760465/ One-in-three babies abandoned in non-hospital environments are found dead Do your Duty and Vote Now!! Bard "Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything." --Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin Truth will come to light; murder cannot be hid long. Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice BUCHANAN-Reform http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Human Genometry
From www.wsws.org WSWS : News Analysis : North America : US Economy Wall Street and the commercial exploitation of the human genome By Frank Gaglioti 10 April 2000 Back to screen version Last month, after a huge rise of 81 percent in the previous two months, the NASDAQ biotechnology index went on a roller coaster ride. The decline began on March 6. But then on March 14, following a much publicised joint statement by US President Bill Clinton and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, biotechnology stocks went into a tailspin, declining by 12.5 percent in one day. The overall NASDAQ index, which is heavily weighted with technology stocks, fell by 4 percent, its second greatest one-day fall ever. The stock market reaction to the Clinton/Blair statement, which called for information about the human genome or genetic code to be made publicly available, is very revealing. First, it indicates the degree to which the price of technology stocks in general, based on hype and overblown expectations, are susceptible to anything perceived to be a threat to future profits. Second, given the centrality of the rising NASDAQ to Wall Street and thus the US economy, it underscores the huge pressures at work to ensure the commercial exploitation of the astonishing advances in genetics even if it cuts across the needs of science and medicine and their potential applications in eradicating disease. For over a decade, scientific researchers using more and more sophisticated techniques have been engaged in unravelling the vast and complex code of the human genomethe totality of genetic information to be found in the DNA sequences on the chromosomes in human cells. The sequencing, as it is known, is being done by the publicly funded Human Genome Project (HGP) and by various private competitors. HGP, the oldest organisation in the human genetics field founded in 1989, is mainly based in the US and Britain. Its policy has been to publish DNA sequences on the Internet within 24 hours so that the information is freely available to other research scientists. Most of the private biotechnology companies have been formed in the last couple of years in the expectation of making enormous profits from the manufacture of a new generation of drugs and other medical treatments based on the newly available data. They have sought to keep their information secret or to keep exclusive rights over their data by obtaining a patent. The biggest individual losers on the stock market were the companies most closely associated with the genetic discoveries. The stocks of Celera Genomics Corporation, one of the leading biotech companies and a direct competitor with HGP, fell by 22 percent. Incyte Pharmaceuticals lost 28 percent. The initial fall in stock values on March 6 began after HGP suddenly broke off negotiations with Celera aimed at collaborating in the sequencing of the human genome. The talks broke down because Celera insisted that it retain exclusive rights to the data until 2005, thus enabling it to effectively block competitors. The stock market reacted when HGP published the details of the talks. Celera has been able to gain a substantial lead on HGP by using the publicly available data from HGP to verify its own sequences. The Clinton/Blair statement on March 14 was interpreted as preventing the private companies from filing patents on their raw data. To realise the full promise of this research, they stated, raw fundamental data on the human genome, including the human DNA sequence and its variations, should be made freely available to scientists everywhere Intellectual property protection for gene-based inventions will also play an important role in stimulating the development of important new health care projects." But this was little more than a motherhood statement, which committed neither government to anything and proposed no changes to the existing patent laws. White House spokesman Jake Siewert was quick to reassure the markets that the Clinton/Blair statement would not affect the operations of biotechnology corporations. The whole point of this is to make raw data available so private companies can innovate, create new medicine and treatment and make a profit. It's meant to foster competition," he said. His remarks were reinforced by the spokesmen for leading biotechnology companies who said that their patents would not be affected. The Clinton/Blair statement was a result of ongoing high-level discussions on gene patents between the US and Britain, the two countries where most of the biotechnology industry is based. On September 20 last year the Guardian newspaper released details of discussions between Lord Sainsbury, Blair's science advisor, and Neal Lane, Clinton's science and technology advisor, held in Kyoto in Japan and in Williamsburg in the US during the Carnegie group summits of G-8 science ministers. The two advisors agreed to work towards an inter-government agreement to release all genetic information
[CTRL] SNET: F. Y. I. (fwd)
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[CTRL] Harvest
From http://www.independent.co.uk/news/World/Europe/2000-04/kosovo080400.shtml
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Children reap Kosovo's spring harvest
Legacy of war - As the snow melts, more young lives are shattered by the
thousands of cluster bombs which Nato left behind
By Christian Jennings in Grmija
8 April 2000
Kosovo's bleak winter has finally begun to lift, giving way to a tremulous
spring. And in the last three weeks, three children have been killed and 13
seriously injured after they accidentally detonated some of the thousands of
unexploded Nato cluster-bombs strewn about the woods, hills and villages.
"Everyone recognises that with the advent of spring there is an increased
danger of incidents involving mines and unexploded ordnance," says Leonie
Barnes, chief information officer at the United Nations' mine action co-
ordination centre (Macc) in Pristina, the outfit that organises all mine-
clearing and mine-awareness activities throughout Kosovo.
Above the public swimming pool at the Grmija recreation ground, west of
Pristina, the snow is melting, revealing a car park littered with syringes,
tangles of hastily discarded underwear, empty bottles of Montenegrin red wine,
and dozens of used condoms. Next to one puddle lie six shiny brass cartridge
cases, ejected from a 9mm automatic handgun. But as the daytime temperatures
start to rise, more is being brought to the surface than the detritus of
nocturnal lust.
"During the air-war, the hills around Grmija had concentrations of Serbian
troops dug in," says a Macc official. "And there were 22 recorded Nato cluster-
bomb strikes on this area alone." The swimming pool and picnic area, as well as
the woods in Grmija, are being made safe by battle area clearance teams from
Bac-Tec, a British organisation which employs former Army and Navy bomb
disposal experts.
Twenty-two cluster-bomb strikes means 22 aerially launched bomb canisters, each
containing 147 bomblets. Each of the 3,234 bomblets dropped on Grmija would
normally explode on contact with the ground, in the air, or with a tank or
armoured vehicle, depending on how it is fused. But there is a 10 per cent
failure rate, which means that more than 300 bomblets, each the size of a baked-
bean tin, capable of killing anybody within 15 metres, probably lie in the
undergrowth.
"People in Kosovo haven't been able to see their fields since last year," says
Dr Merkur Dobroshi, in the orthopaedic ward of Pristina University Hospital.
"They haven't been able to move about, and now it's spring, and they will go
out and discover what is waiting for them."
Lying in the beds in front of him, badly injured and disfigured, are Albert
Bagraktari, aged 10, and his cousin, fromKlina, in central Kosovo. "At first I
thought that there had been a power-surge and the TV had blown up," says
Albert's mother as her son paws in agony at the bandages covering his eyes.
"Then I realised it was the children, who had been playing with something."
The only person who knows exactly what they were playing with is in the
hospital's intensive care unit. Gasmend, aged 11, was holding the device when
it exploded, and doctors are trying to save his arms and legs.
Ms Barnes, of Macc, who was an ammunition technical officer in the Australian
Army for 10 years, and later worked on mine clearance in Bosnia and Mozambique,
said: "The problem now is the movement of the population over the countryside.
People are impatient, they want to go out and see their fields, go to the
forest to collect firewood.
"They don't see sometimes that they may have to wait another year before it is
safe, before we've cleared."
Although Macc knows thelocation of more than 300 Nato cluster-bomb strike
areas, involving some 3,000 cluster-bombs, the failure rate of 10 per cent
means there are thousands of unexploded bomblets in a province half the size of
Wales, as well as anti-tank and anti-personnel mines, booby-traps and other
devices.
The population of Kosovo is lucky, however. So well co-ordinated is the mine-
clearance operation, so ample the donor funding for demining organisations, and
so well recorded the Serb minefields and Nato bomb-sites, that Ms Barnes sees
an end to the problem.
"We could feasibly clear Kosovo in two to three years," she says. And by the
end of this year, she hopes it will be possible for the people of Grmija to
venture out for their walks and picnics without the risk of stepping on the
legacy of last year's war.
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
nessie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa. Jews are an ethnic group. Some Jews are religious. Some aren't. Practicing the religion doesn't make one a Jew. Having a Jewish mother does. Really. Ask one. Hey, I'm one. Actually I'm both. And you are right of course. But just to clarify a bit further... One is a Jew if one is born to a Jewish mother and practices the religion, or self identifies voluntarily, or converts voluntarily. One is NOT a Jew if one believes in human deities even if one is born to a Jewish mother and takes on traditional trappings. For example - William Cohen is not a Jew because his father converted and he became a Christian and grew up as on. Mad Albright is not a Jew because her parents converted to Catholicism when she was a child and she denies ever having been one. Then she converted to Episcopalianism because that's the brand of choice for the elites in this country. Hymie Goldberg is not a Jew even though he speaks with Jewish intonations, wears a taleth, blows the shofar ( not chauffeur )on special occasions, and sings ditzy little Jewish tunes about the return of Jesus. I, on the other hand am a Jew because I was born of a Jewish mother and choose to identify as one even though I don't practice the religion, am not Liberal, am not a professional, and hate Barbara Streisand. I hope that helps. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What Liberals have wrought.
"[to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: -Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/" /A -Cui Bono?- Let's see, I think it started when Madeline Murray O'Hare complained she didn't want any prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school, the Bible that says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor yourself. And we said, OK. Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem. And we said, an expert should know what he's talking about so we won't spank them anymore. Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. And the school administrators said no faculty member in our school can touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued. And we accepted their reasoning. Then someone said, "Our daughters have the right to have abortions if they want, and they shouldn't have to tell their parents." And we said, it's their right. Then some wise school board member said, since kids are kids (and they're going to do it anyway), let's give our children all the birth control they want, so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got it at school. And we said, that's another great idea. Then some school administrators said, we need to teach children that homosexuality is just an alternate lifestyle and that is just as good and acceptable a lifestyle as any other. We need to help our young people "get in touch with their own feelings" and even encourage them to explore this alternate lifestyle. And we were afraid that if we objected to this we would be labeled as "homophobes" and "haters" and "religious bigots".so we quietly said"OK". And the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promotes profanity, violence, and illicit sex. And let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, and nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead. Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. And agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good. So, now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with... "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." Regards to All Nakano If you really don't like it, you could always move. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] SNET: F. Y. I. (fwd)
William, What are your sources for the Russian story? Thanks. Foxter - Original Message - From: William Bacon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 7:23 PM Subject: [CTRL] SNET: F. Y. I. (fwd) visit my web site at www.voicenet.com/~wbacon-- Forwarded message --Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:10:19 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: SNET: F. Y. I.- SNETNEWS Mailing ListSay, did you know that there will be a signing in San Francisco June 26,2000 of the United Religions, called the UR, uniting all religions andintolerant of any religion that does not join? It will be signed on thesame day the UN document was signed in San Francisco, June 26,55 years ago.Also, on a recent campaign trip Gore goofed when he said his favorite Bibleverse is John 16:3. No one noticed and corrected the error, he and hisspeech writers know so little about the Bible. John 16:3 says, "And thesethings they will do unto you, because they have not known the father, nor me."Also, all Russians are to be given a personal 666 bar code. It is a hotissue in Russian. The leaders of the Russian Orthodox Church are protestingthat it contains the fiendish number 666. All Russians are to be given aplastic card with their 666 bar code number assignment on it. If theyrefuse, all government benefits and medical aid will be denied. The RussianOrthodox Church has announced that anyone who accepts the card will berefused holy communion.___- To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]_Enlighten your in-box. http://www.topica.com/t/15A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These are sordidmattersand 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds-is used politically by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial andnazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.htmlA HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
[CTRL] Media loves that Criminal Clinton
Forwarded message From: "info" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 Subj: FROM THE "TARNISHED CITY" TO THE "SHINING CITY ON A HILL" April 10, 2000 FROM THE "TARNISHED CITY" TO THE "SHINING CITY ON A HILL" One Federal Judge Has the Authority and Power to Realize President Reagan's Dream By Larry Klayman For the first time in American history, the President of the United States has been found by a federal judge to have committed a crime. But, the President, Bill Clinton, is hardly ashamed by the Court's finding that he illegally released government file information on Kathleen Willey, the woman he abused and groped in the Oval Office pantry. Nor is his wife, Hillary Rodham Clinton, who in sworn written testimony of the White House itself, is shown to have assisted him in committing this crime. Rather than expressing any regret for admittedly destroying Ms. Willey's reputation, the President instead attacked the judge, musing about the "mystery" of his having made a number of strong rulings against the corrupt Clinton White House. Neither the President nor his enablers in the liberal elite media are prone to dwell on this sad milestone of history. With hardly a mention on any of the so-called major networks, the nightly news shows of NBC, CBS and ABC essentially glossed over the story. CNN "graced me" with a rare appearance on Crossfire, only to attack me through Bill Press the following day, on CNN's website, as a right-wing crazy. I was in good company however, since Press' article also characteristically attacked the judge. Press is a good "boy;" he was following the talking points faxed to him by the Clinton White House. Clearly, Washington and its pliant "Big Media" know no shame, not unlike the inhabitants of the ancient city of Jerusalem. Indeed, our nation's capital is like the "tarnished city" of Isaiah, where prostitutes and interns, money changers, drug dealers, users, and arms merchants have occupied 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue for the last seven years. And, the scandal does not stop at the Clinton-Gore White House door. The President's and Mrs. Clinton's allies -- such as James Carville, George Stephanopoulos, and Lanny Davis -- all contributed to the culture of deceit and dishonesty which is so pervasive in American society today. But while Judicial Watch brings one lawsuit after another to try to obtain justice, the Republican Party continues to sit on the sidelines, with few exceptions, such as Congressman Bob Barr. Americans who care about Judeo-Christian ethics, and respect for the law, have been left without representation, but for one Court, and one judge; the Honorable Royce C. Lamberth of the federal court in the District of Columbia. Fortunately, Judge Lamberth was randomly assigned crucial Judicial Watch cases in both the Filegate and Chinagate scandals. And, in both of these controversies, he now has the power -- particularly given the recent revelations that the Clinton-Gore White House has obstructed justice by hiding perhaps as many as one million incriminating e-mails, over 457 hard drives, and a zip disk -- to return the "Rule of Law" to this country, and hold the "guilty" responsible. Not only was this computer evidence hidden, but ordinary White House workers who discovered the problem were threatened illegally with jail time if they talked. These "whistleblowers" swear, under oath, that the missing e-mails are so damning that if they had been available during the 1998 impeachment proceedings, the President would surely have been convicted, even by a cowardly Senate. When Judicial Watch first brought this cover-up to the attention of the Clinton-Gore Justice Department, which represents The White House in the Filegate case, in the winter of 1999, rather than look into the problem and produce the "lost evidence," submitted a false affidavit to Judge Lamberth, claiming that there was no e-mail problem. When two White House whistleblowers approached Judicial Watch in the last few months and confirmed the cover-up, Judicial Watch again put the Court and the Clinton-Gore Justice Department on notice of the e-mail problem. Again, rather than come clean, the Clinton-Gore Justice Department, on behalf of The White House, continued to prevaricate and instead attacked Judicial Watch. As a result, Judicial Watch was forced to file, just last Thursday, a motion requesting that not only the Clinton-Gore White House, but also its taxpayer-funded White House lawyers (who one of the whistleblowers has testified admitted to trying to delay Judicial Watch's case until after the 2000 elections) and Justice Department lawyers, be held in criminal contempt for their role in the matter. If Judge Lamberth grants Judicial Watch's request, he has the power to commence criminal proceedings on his own without the permission of Attorney General Janet Reno --
[CTRL] Environmental war weather modification
This article on environmental war weather modification is posted courtesy of Dr. Bernard Eastlund. Many thanks, Alfred Webre _ http://www.earthradioTV.com Alternative News Portal for Ecology, Politics, Consciousness = Activate Cloud Shield! Zap a Twister! Starting now, lightning strikes - on demand. By Tom Standage If the US Air Force is to be believed, illegal drugs aren't going away anytime soon. In fact, in the future they'll only cause more problems, because the distributing cartels will have consolidated. They'll have wealth, political power, and, instead of a few guys with submachine guns, entire armies. Picture, then, a South American cartel of the mid-2090's. It maintains hundreds of fighter planes, thwarting attacks by launching a dozen Russian- and Chinese-made aircraft for every one of ours. Our sole advantage comes from a piece of military intelligence: Cartel pilots won't fly in harsh weather. But this doesn't mean waiting around for the skies to turn - because by then, thunderstorms will be made to order. First we launch uninhabited aerospace vehicles (UAVs), which, through advanced cloud-generation technology, disseminate cirrus clouds to block enemy surveillance. Next we seed any one of the daily rain showers passing through the region, intensifying it precisely over the target. Then we snuff out our blinded enemy. Over the course of the next century, the weather will be our most powerful weapon. So says Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025, part of a 1996 Air Force-commissioned report forecasting the technology required to maintain US air and space leadership into the next century. "Current technologies that will mature over the next 30 years will offer anyone who has the necessary resources the ability to modify weather patterns, at least on the local scale," the study says. "Weather modification can provide battlespace dominance to a degree never before imagined. By 2025 it will be within the realm of possibility." Sound like hyperbole? Ironically, three years after the report was issued, that's what Air Force officials would have you think. "We have no plans to try and modify the weather. It's just too much of a crapshoot in terms of the complex dynamics and huge energy involved," says Brigadier General Fred P. Lewis, the Air Force's director of weather. "How will you guarantee the outcome? How will you create what you want yet avoid kicking off an undesirable or even dangerous weather system?" Made-to-order thunderstorms, says the military, "can provide battlespace dominance to a degree never before imagined." Whatever the truth about the military's attitude toward weather modification, the private sector won't wait for Lewis to answer his own questions. One sign of real-world progress has come in a rather ancient-sounding technology: cloud seeding. Introduced in the 1940s, the tactic has made huge leaps of late thanks to a new method known as hydroscopic seeding. In the early '90s, South African researchers began using flares shot from planes to inject water-attracting salts into clouds. In these and other tests, hydroscopic seeding has shown evidence of increasing not only the amount of rainfall, but also the duration and vertical concentration of individual storms. The most extensive hydroscopic test to date, being conducted in Mexico by scientists from the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, has been running for three years. So far, 99 seeding missions have shown rainfall increases of as much as 40 percent, according to head researcher Brant Foote. Another 50 tests with the same results, Foote says, and he'll consider the evidence conclusive. While Foote and the military talk of weather enhancement, some of the most important developments are coming in weather suppression. One factor pushing those developments is the ever increasing density of Earth's population. Not only does it amplify the need to move water to drought-afflicted areas, it also intensifies the amount of damage natural disasters wreak. Weather-related catastrophes caused $92 billion in damage worldwide during 1998 and displaced more than 300 million people from their homes, according to the Worldwatch Institute in Washington, DC. Top priority: Mother Nature's ultimate terror, the hurricane. Hurricanes are fueled by the evaporation of warm ocean water. One way to kill a storm would be to cool the ocean. Given the huge energy investment of, say, towing icebergs, however, researchers have made little progress in this regard. Pushing a hurricane toward land would also kill the storm by eliminating its energy source - but also threaten people and property. That's not an option, of course. But can we make a hurricane think it's over land? A team of MIT scientists believes so. Led by professor Kerry Emanuel, the scientists are hoping that by applying a chemical coat one molecule thick to the ocean's surface, they can retard the natural heat-transfer
[CTRL] SPECIAL: - Elites uber alles. A fly on the wall.
Progressive Review,[EMAIL PROTECTED],inet writes: AN ACTIVIST AMONGST THE ROBBER BARONS [Bruce Silverglade of the Center for Science in the Public Interest managed to get himself invited to a day-long high-level seminar on "After Seattle: Restoring Momentum to the WTO." Speakers included Clayton Yeutter (former Secretary of Agriculture), Robert Litan (former Associate Director of the White House Office of Management and Budget), Lawrence Eagleburger (former Secretary of State), and Luiz Felipe Lamreia, the foreign Minster of Brazil. His fly-on-the-wall report is worth quoting at some length]: I was disappointed that only one representative like myself from a non-profit organization concerned about the impact of the WTO on food safety regulation was invited. But I was pleased that the door had been opened and I looked forward to [it]. . . . As it turned out, I got a lot more than I bargained for. The= seminar ~ turned out to be a strategy session on how to defeat those opposed to the current WTO system. Apparently, no one knew who I was (perhaps my graying temples and dark suit helped me blend in with the overwhelming older male group of attendees) and I did not speak up until the end of the meeting. The meeting was kicked off by a gentleman named Lord Patterson who was Margaret Thatcher's Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. He began by stating that our number one job is to restore confidence in the WTO before embarking on any new rounds of trade negotiations. So far, so good, I= thought. But he then proclaimed that non-profit groups have no right to criticize the WTO as undemocratic because the groups themselves do not represent the general public. (I wondered which groups he was talking about because organizations that are gravely concerned about the impact of the WTO on environmental and consumer protection, like the Sierra Club and Public Citizen, have hundreds of thousands of members). He then stated that we must never have another WTO meeting on US soil because it was too easy for advocacy groups to organize here and security could not be assured . . . He added that President Clinton's speech during the WTO meeting in Seattle, in which the president acknowledged the protesters' concerns, was "disgraceful" and stated that it was also disgraceful that delegates to the WTO meeting in Seattle had to survive on sandwiches and couldn't get a decent meal during three days of social protest. The Lord finished his speech by recalling better times having tea with Maggie, and stating that the staff of the WTO Secretariat ~ should not be balanced with people from developing countries just because of the color of their skin. After a few words with the chairman of the meeting, Lord Patterson added "Oh, I hope I have not offended anyone." . . . The largely American audience of trade officials and policy wonks took the Lord's pronouncements seriously. The first comment by an American, picked up on the criticisms and asked 'How can we de-legitimize the NGOs?' The questioner claimed that these groups are usually supported by just a few charitable foundations and if the foundations could be convinced to cut off funding, the groups would be forced to cease operations. Mr. Litan, the former White House budget official, had another approach. He [asked] can't we give the NGOs other sandboxes to play in and have them take their concerns to groups like the International Labor Organization (a toothless United Nations sponsored-group). The representative from the US Trade Representative's office said nothing. . . . Under the banner of rebuilding public confidence in the WTO, [former Agriculture Secretary] Yeutter concurred with his British colleague's suggestion that the next WTO meeting be held in some place other than the US where security can be assured. He further suggested that the WTO give the public little advance notice of where the meeting would be held to keep the protesters off balance. He said that the protesters' demands for greater transparency in WTO proceedings was a misnomer because the protesters didn't really want to participate in WTO proceedings -- all they wanted was to get TV coverage and raise money for their organizations. . . . The day ended with the usual Washington reception . . . During desert, the foreign minister of Brazil lamented that if the next WTO meeting had to be held in an out of the way place, he preferred that it be held on a cruise ship instead of in the middle of the desert. He then gave an impassioned speech in which he opposed writing core labor standards into the WTO agreement and defended child labor by describing how in one region of Brazil, more than 5,000 children "help their families earn a little extra money" by hauling bags of coal from a dump yard to a steel mill. He stressed, however, that the children do not work directly in the steel mill. He was greeted by a hearty round of applause. INSTITUTE FOR AGRICULTURE AND TRADE POLICY
Re: [CTRL] Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth
Bard wrote:
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Elian ('Eli'zabeth Ju'an') will have had three 'Mothers' in the space of five
months. WOW!
Talk about a candidate for being dsyfunctional.
Bard
It could be worse. He could be raised by YOU.
J2
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Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth
The Clinton administration wants Cuban raft boy Elian Gonzalez
returned to his rightful father. But Juan Miguel Gonzalez's legal
claim to that title may not be as strong as once thought.
Six-year-old Elian, it turns out, was actually born more than two
years after Gonzalez divorced the boy's late mother Elisabeth
Brotons in 1991, undermining claims that the Cuban hotel worker
has an unquestionable right to the boy's custody.
"Juan Miguel and Elisabeth met in junior high and were together,
by his estimate, a total of 15 years," reported The Miami Herald
on Friday. "They were married in 1985, then divorced in 1991, a
decision prompted, according to relatives, by Elisabeth's
miscarriages and resulting depression."
Seven of Brotons' earlier pregnancies ended in miscarriage, which
apparently caused Juan Miguel to seek an end to his marriage. But
Gonzalez claimed to United States immigration officials that he
and his ex-wife decided to continue to try for children two years
after their marriage broke up. Gonzalez has offered no explanation
for the strange decision.
Despite Elisabeth's successful pregnancy and Elian's healthy
birth, Juan Miguel declined to reconcile the split with his
ex-wife, and instead took a new wife who bore him a son last year.
Cuba's state newspaper Granma claims that the divorced couple went
to a specialized obstetrics hospital in Havana and, after
faithfully following doctor's orders, Elisabeth conceived Elian.
But the boy's paternity has never been established scientifically.
Further weakening Juan Miguel's claim on the boy; Brotons had sole
legal custody over Elian -- though neighbors in Castro's Cuba say
the boy often spent time with his biological father.
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[CTRL] AF News 11 Apr 00
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! 000549. EAF On-Line offers electronic gateway for AEF deployments by Capt. Wilson Camelo Air Combat Command Public Affairs LANGLEY AIR FORCE BASE, Va. (AFPN) -- The Aerospace Expeditionary Force Center is unveiling the first version of an electronic one-stop shop for AEF deployments April 15 to help ensure people deploying as part of the Expeditionary Aerospace Force concept are fully prepared for their arrival in theater. Called EAF On-Line, the Web site will feature training templates airmen can access to obtain information and actions they need to complete -- specific to their Air Force Specialty Code -- prior to deploying, said Lt. Col. Gordon Bennett, the initiative's project officer. The restricted Web site can be accessed via military computers at http://aefcenter.acc.af.mil/eafonline. The April 15 version will feature training templates for communications, legal, and maintenance AFSCs deploying for Operation Southern Watch. The full-up version with training templates for all AFSCs deploying to support any steady state deployment will be available on line by October, Bennett said. "The goal is to have EAF On-Line serve as the backbone for all AEF actions for people deploying to support Air Force worldwide operations," he said. "We want everyone identified for an AEF deployment to go to this site first to obtain the information and actions they need to complete so they are ready to hit the ground running when they arrive at their deployed location." That information includes listings of what kind of training, shots, and qualifications are required for each AFSC and location. Once logged onto EAF On-Line -- accomplished by entering a career field, AEF number, deployment location and home base -- people can access the requirements and training needed for the deployment, such as weapons, chemical warfare and air base ground defense. In addition, the site will feature force protection and geopolitical issues, lessons learned from previous rotations and links to related news articles. "We want to make people smart and do as much training as we can on this side of the ocean. This will benefit the people on the other side of the ocean when they receive a fully-trained, fully-briefed airman," Bennett said. As the site is developed other aspects such as Right Start briefings, travel arrangements, and issues such as orders, pay and outprocessing actions will be added. Bennett stressed that EAF On-line's success is reliant on feedback from airmen in the field. This will be accomplished through a button on the Web site that allows users to provide feedback directly to the AEF Center. "We hope people of all specialties will visit the site and suggest ways to improve our information. The site is for the deploying troop. We are trying to present information they will need, and consider valuable. Feedback is essential for our success." The October 2000 upgrade to EAF On-line will also benefit commanders by allowing them to track the readiness status of their unit and people. More importantly, it will also help them manage people's operations tempo. This is because commanders will have all their assigned people entered in databases that can be sorted in various fields, including number of days already spent on temporary duty assignments. Conducting briefings and training on this side of the ocean also has positive implications for a large portion of the force -- reservists. "Giving reservists the ability to obtain their training and complete their requirements at home will pay off big down the line, and make this critical portion of our Air Force even more effective in a deployed environment," he said. Air National Guard and Reserve people and units are filling approximately 10 percent of the AEF taskings, Bennett said. The AEF Center is a centralized, cross-functional, total force team designed to facilitate Expeditionary Aerospace Force operations. Its mission is to assist EAF operations by assisting in the sourcing of Aerospace Expeditionary Force assets, identifying and refining training requirements, monitoring readiness, and guiding deployment and redeployment planning. 000546. United States will not cut troop levels in Saudi Arabia by Jim Garamone American Forces Press Service JEDDAH, Saudi Arabia (AFPN) -- Contrary to news reports, U.S. troop levels in the area will not be reduced. An April 9 story quotes an anonymous U.S. military official as saying that Defense Secretary William S. Cohen and Saudi Defense and Aviation Minister Prince Sultan agreed to reduce troop levels at Prince Sultan Air Base. "The story is complete hogwash," said Pentagon spokesman Ken Bacon. "We have no plans to reduce the number of airmen or planes at Prince Sultan Air Base, and the topic of reducing airmen in Saudi Arabia was not discussed tonight between Secretary Cohen and Prince Sultan. In fact, Prince Sultan
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Don Huffman wrote: Dear June: Life human in origin is tissue that is the same as excrement? Sincerely, Don Huffman You are an insane fool. You beliefs have not only made you nuts, but also quite stupid. Pick up a biology book or a medical journal. The bible doesn't cut it on this subject. It was written 2k years ago, and they didn't have a clue about how the body and reproduction works. Joshua2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Is A.A. A Cult?
1. Religious Orientation, Supernatural Beliefs As predicted in [my 1980s book] The Small Book, the federal courts now refer to AA doctrinal literature, the steps themselves, as "Exhibit A" showing that AA is "unequivocally religious." AA is intensely religious; what religion would call for 90 meetings in 90 days? What's going on here? "The Big Book" [AA's text Alcoholics Anonymous] is regarded as divinely revealed, sacred scripture within the step-cult; all disagreements are settled by citing passages from it. Gaetano Salomone's extensive, ongoing analysis in JRR [The Journal of Rational Recovery] shows the purely religious identity and origins of AA. One of his unique contributions is his comparison of the surface structure and the deep structure (what you see and what you get) of the 12-step religious conversion program. Families split apart based on AA membership, just as religious conflict often disrupts family ties. At least one Methodist church has gone belly-up to "those people who meet in the basement," who arose to conduct Sunday services with a teddy bear affixed over the altar where the image of Christ had been. The Church of Serenity, as they called themselves, worship using a special Bible written for alcoholics. [A woman] called two days after reading The New Cure, excited that she would never return to AA, of which she said, "Now I know why I always felt uncomfortable at the meetings. They say that the step program is not religious, but spiritual, but they place no value on religious worship whatsoever. They claim to respect all religions, but believe that no religion is adequate to solve problems of alcohol or drug addiction. To me, this means that AA believes itself to be superior to Christianity when addictive 'disease' exists within the family. They diagnosed my entire family as codependents or enablers who must enter their plan of salvation, as if they were sick. This was extremely disruptive, but I continued meetings and gradually replaced church connections with the recovery fellowship. Although they claim there is no conflict between churches and the program, in reality it is impossible to maintain both. From AA, I learned to look at God differently from the teachings of my church. After attending step meetings, I was spiritually self-conscious while worshiping at my church, because my perception of Jesus Christ in church was radically different from the Higher Power I was, in effect, worshiping at recovery meetings. I could not express this problem at meetings or at church, but Rational Recovery has reunited me with my religion by showing that drinking is not a disease; it is sin, and AVRT is the nuts and bolts of Christian repentance." 2. Irrationality, Rigidity, Anti-Intellectualism To AA believers, AA doctrine must be correct, as it is written. No one may speak of the incoherence of AA doctrine, and group interaction is designed to prevent or contain skepticism. "Your best thinking got you here." "There's no one too dumb to get this program, but many are too intelligent." "Expect a miracle." 3. A Charismatic Leader Few would disagree that [AA co-founder] Bill W. has become a folk saint, revered and idolized by the 12-step community. His home has become a shrine, and his personal memorabilia have become sacred artifacts. He is regarded by some as the reincarnation of Christ, guiding the world into the Age of Sobriety, a millennium comparable to the Kingdom of God spoken of in the Bible. AA lifers trace their lineage back to Bill W. through a genealogy of sponsors, and speak with great pride to say, "Bill W. was my sponsor's great-gransponsor." Core members of AA are referred to as "Trusted Servants," despite disclaimers that AA has no leaders. This image-making label endows such individuals with enormous moral authority, for they are, in fact, representing AA's lineage to Bill W. and ultimately to the Loving God AA obediently serves. 4. A Hierarchical, Authoritarian Structure While AA appears to the casual observer as a nonprofit corporation that sponsors autonomous, community-level cell groups, it has evolved far beyond that level of organization. Its members, shielded by anonymity and presenting themselves as concerned addictions experts, have infiltrated federal and state bureaucracies, where they manipulate social policies and funding patterns affecting America's social service system. Hundreds of nonprofit organizations exist purely for the purpose disseminating disease-treatment propaganda and networking within communities to create political support for the 12-step agendas described in AA doctrinal literature. Now in possession of the American social service system, including the prisons and courts, the professional disciplinary and licensing boards, the medicaid and social welfare programs, and the military health care system, AA can be seen as a powerful hierarchy of professional AA'ers employed in positions of social responsibility. AA is a cult which has
[CTRL] Follows Pattern of Obstruction by the DOJ
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! The Washington Weekly Follows Pattern of Obstruction by the DOJ By MARVIN LEE An Assistant U.S. Attorney in Los Angeles was in 1998 denied permission by the Clinton Justice Department to seek espionage charges against Chinese spy Peter Lee, who confessed to two very serious charges of espionage. In 1985, Dr. Peter Lee provided to the scientists of the People's Republic of China information about nuclear energy. In 1997, Dr. Lee again provided to scientists of the People's Republic of China information about detecting submarines. Yet the Clinton Justice Department told the prosecuting attorney that he could only file a criminal complaint under section 1001 of 18 U.S.C. (false statement), according to Senator Arlen Specter who has interviewed the prosecuting attorney. Senator Arlen Specter of the Judiciary subcommittee on oversight on the Department of Justice has issued subpoenas to the former assistant U.S. attorney for the Central District of California and to a current employee at the Department of Justice in Washington, DC. Senator Specter is investigating the interference by the Clinton administration in this Chinese espionage case that follows the pattern of the investigation of Dr. Wen Ho Lee, where the DOJ denied investigators permission to seek a wiretap to detect the scope of Wen Ho Lee's transfer of nuclear weapons technology from Los Alamos to the People's Republic of China. It also follows the pattern of the Gore Buddhist temple fund-raising scandal, where the U.S. Attorney in L.A., Stephen Mansfield, was told by Reno's assistant Lee Radek to shut down his investigation. "Your office should take no steps to investigate these matters," Radek wrote to Mansfield. It also follows the pattern of the comfortable plea bargains reached by Chinese spy John Huang and Chinese agents Maria Hsia and Charlie Trie with the Justice Department. It also follows the pattern of Hillary Clinton helping Chinese spy John Huang get a security clearance without a background check and helping him hide from federal Marshals when he was wanted for a Judicial Watch civil suit against the Commerce Department. Curiously, when Senator Specter took to the floor of the Senate last week to explain this serious travesty of justice, and the attempts of Attorney General Janet Reno to stonewall his investigation, Senator Barbara Boxer tried to interfere and prevent him from speaking. "I thought we were supposed to be discussing the budget," she said, interrupting Senator Specter. But the Senate President told her to shut up and let Senator Specter speak. It was Barbara Boxer who saw to it that Charles LaBella's career as a federal prosecutor in California ended after he recommended to Janet Reno that she seek an independent counsel to investigate the quid pro quo between the Chinese campaign donations to the Clinton White House and the Democratic Party and the illegal transfer of military technology and intelligence to China. The inescapable conclusion of this pattern is that the Clinton Administration has done everything in its power -- and beyond -- to protect Chinese spies and agents in the U.S. from exposure as well as prosecution. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Don Huffman wrote: June: He wasn't Catholic. More importantly he was an atheist then, but be- cause the abortion cost him his first love there was something about a- bortion that was to him against human reason. Are you Jewish? Beware of the Jewish persecution complex. I think it is significant that be is a Christian now and, I believe, is now Catholic. I guess that explains it huh? By the way Don. Did you know that Pope Pius XII pressured the American Military to remove the Black soldiers from the push on Germany? He didn't want his beloved Reich defiled by black untermetchen. He also tried to keep the Americans from sending Black soldiers with the armies that were moving on Rome. Hey, I know what, lets make this guy a saint. Victem of a Jewish persecution complex ( and not Vatican persecution.) Joshua2 Sincerely, Don Huffman -- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] RED TROJAN HORSE : The NAFTA Corridors and the Panama Canal Connection
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! March 4, 2000 RED TROJAN HORSE : The NAFTA Corridors and the Panama Canal Connection By: Tim Shaw Reform Party U.S. Constitution Sub-Committee Team Leader [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Indeed, the great sucking sound that was so feared during the negotiations for the passage of NAFTA in late 1993 is being heard and cheered today...for it is the sound of corporate America gravitating toward this international trade corridor. It is the surge of products moving to market and the sound of money filling coffers. It is the free enterprise system at work." North American Superhighway Coalition (NASCO) "They'll want to demonstrate to a distant part of the world that they can be a responsible partner...And I would be very surprised if any adverse consequences flowed from the Chinese running the [ Panama ] Canal." President Bill Clinton Oval Office interview November 31, 1999 "Seen from the changes in the world situation and the United States' hegemonic strategy for creating monopolarity, war is inevitable...We cannot avoid it. The issue is that the Chinese armed forces must control the initiative in this warWe must be prepared to fight for one year, two years, three years or even longer." Chi Haotian, Chinese Defense Minister Cheng Ming, Hong Kong's newspaper January 11, 2000 INTRODUCTION: What you are about to read will shock you. While the Reform Party has been embattled in a bitter fight for control of our party, NAFTA's expansion is about to get a boost beyond anything we have ever envisioned. The following began with a phone call from a Reformer in Kansas City, Missouri named Dennis Carriger to myself a few weeks ago. He explained to me that there were plans to build a "NAFTA Corridor" between the United States, Canada, and Mexico and that this Corridor would be I-35. The NAFTA Corridor would run from the southern border at Loredo, TX right to Kansas City, MO where an international hub would be built on the Richard-Gebaur AFB. From this hub, the rest of our nation would be serviced. Dennis was quite concerned about this but was not online. He asked me to research it for him and what I discovered was astounding. This is truly the "mother of all issues" and spells out a not only a free trade disaster for our nation, but a incredible threat to our country by the communist Chinese. As you will see, when the pieces are put together, the puzzle begins to make sense. NAFTA expansion, defense cutbacks, campaign finance violations, the Panama Canal transfer, and a hostel threat from the Chinese are all rolled into one hereincluding perhaps the reason the Reform Party is in a fight to the death over our very principles. This information below will be posted on the National Reform Party's U.S. Constitution Sub-Committee page at http://issues.reformparty.org/iss_const.htm as well as sent by e-mail to whoever will take the time to read it. While we will continually update you on this issue, the following is intended for use as a convenient format for handout or mailout. OVERVIEW 1.THERE WILL BE 43 NAFTA CORRIDORS ALL THROUGHOUT THE U.S. Dennis had stumbled upon the "main Corridor" which was indeed I-35. What I discovered is that there are 42 other NAFTA Corridors in the works all over our nation. From east to west, north to south they have us covered and Kansas City will be the homebase hub for the project. From San Diego to Maine and Seattle to Florida, goods will be shipped duty free out of Mexico. You may view a map of them here: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/hep10/nhs/map.html or on the attached page if this is a printed copy. The Corridors have received $700 million in federal funding from the Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (TEA-21) which was lobbied heavily by such pro-NAFTA organizations as the North American Superhighway Coalition (NASCO). TEA-21 is split into two funding categories: The National Corridor Planning and Development program and Coordinated Border Infrastructure program. These programs use highway improvement and traffic relief as a cover for more convent passage for NAFTA transport. 2. THE ORIGIN OF THE CORRIDORS WILL NOT BE MEXICO BUT THE PANAMA CANAL WHICH IS NOW CONTROLLED BY THE COMMUNIST CHINESE. On December 31st 1999, the Panama Canal was signed over to the country of Panama. Panama has in turn leased the Canal to the Chinese company Hutchison-Whampoa, a subsidiary of COSCO (The Chinese Overseas Shipping Corporation). Both COSCO and Hutchison-Whampoa are front organization for the communist Chinese. We will now have Chinese made goods (as well as drugs and perhaps bombs or terrorists) being shipped duty free all throughout our nation. Fewer then 1% of the trucks crossing the border at Loredo, TX are searched. Kansas City Southern Railroad, who will run the Kansas City NAFTA hub when completed, is entering a joint venture with Mi-Jack Products Inc to begin construction of a rail line parallel to
[CTRL] Gun maker stands up to Clinton
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! SUNDAY QA Gun maker stands up to Clinton Geoff Metcalf interviews Bob Morrison, Executive VP of Taurus International -- -- By Geoff Metcalf © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Unable to push its hard-core gun control agenda through Congress, the Clinton administration has taken to using the threat of massive lawsuits to force gun manufacturers to do its bidding. Smith and Wesson recently gave in to the administration's demands to avoid legal harassment. But not all manufacturers are caving in. Among those standing firm is Miami-based Taurus International, which makes pistols, revolvers and rifles. WorldNetDaily reporter Geoff Metcalf interviewed Taurus Executive Vice President / Chief Operating Officer Bob Morrison about threats and offers of bribery Morrison claims his company has received from public officials. Morrison further describes the extraordinary means government personnel have employed in attempting to punish gun manufacturers that hold their ground. Question: Bob, you were incorrectly quoted in the Wall Street Journal on March 21, 2000. What did the Journal say you said? Answer: They said we were going to go along with the same thing that Smith and Wesson had signed, and that we were ready to sign on and that we echoed their concerns. That was a complete misquote. Q: So what did you do? A: We came back with a statement that said they had really gotten it wrong and we restated our position: We sell only to federally licensed distributors who sell only to federally licensed dealers and we couldn't find any reason for us to make any more prohibitions on their sales after all that has already been placed there by the federal government. Q: One thing I was not aware of until I checked out your website was this locking device deal. You offered your locking device to Smith and Wesson, didn't you? A: Yes we did. In fact, we have had an integral locking device on all our firearms since 1997. Over a year ago, we sent the entire industry a letter, including Smith and Wesson, in which we offered to sell them those locks for their firearms -- which would be perfectly acceptable and become integral to their firearms -- at our cost. There would be no profit to us. We re-reminded Smith and Wesson of that offer in a letter (in late March) offering them the same devices. This is what they promised the government they would develop within the next two years. Q: What was their response to you? A: We have had no response. Q: So what they are telling the government they will develop within two years, you are willing to give them at your cost? A: That is exactly correct. We don't understand it. We have been putting gun locks on all our firearms since 1998. We just simply didn't understand why Smith and Wesson would have done that. In addition, they have said they would start shipping all their guns with locks within 60 days, but they have been doing that for over a year. Q: Now the government is talking antitrust because, apparently you, Glock, Browning and some others have said, "No, we don't want to do what you want us to do." A: That is absolutely correct. We made an independent decision when we found out we had been offered the same deal as Smith and Wesson. We independently said we wouldn't be interested. Q: And then the phone rang. Who called? A: Strangely enough, I got a call from HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo in which he furthered this conspiracy by offering to bribe us. If we would come with SW, he would absolutely make us favored with lush government contracts to buy more firearms from us. Q: Hold on a moment. If you as the chief operating officer of Taurus were to offer a similar kind of coercive deal to someone else, you'd get in trouble, wouldn't you? A: I think it's called a bribe. And, that is certainly illegal. Q: What was kid Cuomo's response when you said, "Thanks, but no thanks."? A: He was frustrated that we wouldn't go along with it. He even offered to tailor the deal to our particular needs. When we said we would never abrogate the fiduciary responsibility of a branch of a publicly owned company to a committee of five people -- only one of those being from our company -- he seemed perplexed and wondered why we wouldn't want to do that. Q: I try not to laugh, because this is serious. However, this is abuse of power under the color of authority. A: I have a letter from New York Attorney General Elliot Spitzer, addressed to the Honorable Bill Pryor, attorney general of the state of Alabama. I believe Pryor is the president of the Attorneys General Association. The letter, dated March 16, 2000, starts out, "Dear Attorney General Pryor: I would like to request your participation in a nationwide coalition of state and local governments using the power of their purse strings to encourage gun manufacturers to
[CTRL] Week Ending: 8 April 2000 / 3 Nisan 5760
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Tzemach News Service ~ A weekly update of news and events regarding the nation and people of Israel Week Ending: 8 April 2000 / 3 Nisan 5760 "My help comes from the L-rd, who made heaven and earth. He will not allow your foot to slip; He who keeps you will not slumber. Behold, He who keeps Israel will neither slumber nor sleep." (Psalm 121.2-4) SYRIAN TALKS BACK ON TRACK? Talks with Syria appear to be heading toward resumption, after the US said Saturday it had received answers from Syrian President Hafez Assad to Israeli peace proposals. In another apparent sign of progress, the US also announced a surprise meeting between President Bill Clinton and Prime Minister Ehud Barak in Washington on Tuesday. "We have received orally a response from Assad through our embassy in Damascus," White House spokesman Mike Hammer told THE JERUSALEM POST. "But that is not what's driving this meeting with Prime Minister Barak. It's fair to say the gaps have not been narrowed on the Syrian track." He refused to comment on the content of Assad's response. In another surprise development that seemed to suggest a change in the Syrian position, Foreign Minister Farouk Shara Saturday in Cairo publicly welcomed for the first time Israel's decision to withdraw from south Lebanon by July. Shara said that Israel had been deceiving the world by saying Syria is opposed to an unconditional Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon. UN TO COORDINATE LEBANON WITHDRAWAL: Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak received a commitment on Tuesday from UN Secretary General Kofi Annan that the United Nations will coordinate plans with Israel in connection with an expected IDF withdrawal from Lebanon by July under the provisions of Security Council Resolution 425 [the Resolution can be found thru the "Suggested Links" page at our web site. ed]. In a meeting with Israeli Foreign Minister David Levy in Geneva, Annan said the UN will use its "mandate" to implement Resolution 425 to assist Israel in evacuating the Security Zone in south Lebanon. The current contingent of UNIFIL troops in southern Lebanon would work to maintain quiet when Israel redeploys to the international border, Annan indicated, although it might be necessary to bolster the strength of UN forces there. "I will have to discuss this matter with the [Security] Council," he said. Meanwhile, Lebanon on Wednesday announced conditions for its cooperation with Israel's troop pullout from the country's south - demands that could hamper efforts for a peaceful withdrawal by summer. In a letter to UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud said UN troops would need to help in disarming Palestinian terrorists and that the UN must guarantee his nation's territorial sovereignty. Israel's deputy defense minister rejected the new conditions and warned Thursday that without an understanding further fighting could erupt. BORDER WARS A POSSIBILITY: Continual Palestinian attacks are a real possibility if Israel withdraws from Lebanon without a wider peace agreement, Lebanese President Emile Lahoud warned Wednesday. "If Palestinian groups tried to launch cross-border attacks in the framework of their right to return home, do you think that the international forces will be able to prevent daily little wars on the borders?" Lahoud's letter asked. A group of Middle East analysts in Washington, meanwhile, offered a sobering assessment of an increasingly likely unilateral Israeli withdrawal from south Lebanon this summer. "Violence is possible if not likely," said Michael Eisenstadt, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. While since the 1980's Lebanon has been perceived by US policymakers as a "sideshow" to the Arab-Israeli conflict, it is bound to move to center stage come this summer, he said. Lahoud indicated Lebanon would not move quickly to deploy its own forces in the area near the border vacated by Israel and take responsibility for security. BARAK BROKE PROMISES TO YESHA COUNCIL: The Council of Jewish Settlements in Judea, Samaria and Gaza (Yesha) has concluded that Barak has breached the accord he negotiated with them immediately after his election concerning his government's policies on settlement growth. As a result, the Council decided on Monday to establish new outposts and demonstrate at road junctions in protest of the "drying up" of Yesha settlements, Barak's land concessions to the Palestinian Authority and the PA/PLO's continued violation of signed commitments. After the meeting, settlers organized teams in various communities to recruit help for these activities in hopes of kick-starting demonstrations within a few days. A statement issued by the Council stated: "The council was ready to take responsibility for the dismantling of [specific] encampments, which led to certain confrontation with the settlers, only because it was understood that
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Bard wrote: The subject women have an addiction of power over the male. They use their sexual attractiveness to snare, then seduce the male. A woman who becomes an alcoholic has learned that alcohol is a means to attract the male; especially if the woman is not physically attractive. If, in the act intercourse, the woman becomes pregnant, it is of no consequence to her to have an abortion; but merely an inconvenient cost of fulfilling her warped desire/addiction to power over the male. This type of female would have been most definitely brought up in a dysfunctional family; either a single mom, or a two parent family where the female has turned the male into a wimp, with the consequence that the offspring has no respect for the Father figure; the young daughter learning how her Mother wraps her Father around her little finger. In cases where the parents are not dysfunctional it is more than likely the subject woman would have sustained sexual abuse by an outsider at an early age; sometime the 'loving' Father will sexually abuse the young daughter. Bard http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.html Is this guy a classic or what??? The world in your head is over Bard. It's been over for quite a while. If you feel like an anachronism, it's because you are. Good riddance. J2 A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Reno's Heavy Hand in Elian Case Could Lead to Civil Unrest
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Friday April 7, 2000; 8:01 AM EDT Reno's Heavy Hand in Elian Case Could Lead to Civil Unrest Jack Thompson says there's one person involved in the Elian Gonzalez tragedy who continues to enjoy the media's failure to scrutinize her central, hurtful role -- Attorney General Janet Reno. Now a prominent Miami attorney, Thompson last took on Reno in 1988 when he ran against her for state attorney in Dade County. But with Elian's case coming to a head, he thinks there are a few details America ought to know about Ms. Reno before she turns Little Havana into Waco II. In fact, Reno has a long history of causing civil disturbances, riots, and loss of life and property through bone-headed prosecutorial decisions. In the early 1980s, the woman now in charge of bringing about a peaceful resolution in the Gonzales case caused Miami's "Liberty City Riots" through a botched prosecution of police officers charged with killing an African American insurance man, Miamian Arthur McDuffie. Worse still, relations between Reno and Florida's Hispanic community soured years before little Elian was even born. Cuban-Americans now guarding the home of his Miami relatives well remember Reno's rush to prosecute a Miami police officer, William Lozano, a few years after "Liberty City." That led to the next disaster on Reno's watch -- the Overtown riots. Miami police never forgave Reno for her trumped up Lozano prosecution, which likely contributed to last week's announcement by local law enforcement that if violence broke out over Elian, the feds were on their own. A few years after Lozano, the entire nation watched as Reno incinerated innocent women and children in the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, because of alleged child sexual abuse which she later had to admit was not occurring. The Butcher of Waco is now poised to become the Butcher of Little Havana, warns Thompson. And all of South Florida is convulsed by Janet Reno's latest installment of "Damn due process, damn the facts, full speed ahead toward civil unrest." Reno is already the worst, bloodiest, most corrupt Attorney General in our nation's history. She's now setting the stage for a massive loss of life in Miami, this time in defense of the specious legal claims by a communist dictator, through her wholesale denial of due process and flouting of the state's judicial process. To date, Janet Reno has gotten a free ride from the mainstream media who have refused to look at her checkered history of deceit, incompetence, and mayhem. At this crucial juncture, this free ride must stop. The public safety of Miami demands it. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Reno's Heavy Hand in Elian Case Could Lead to Civil Unrest
In a message dated 4/10/00 8:07:22 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Butcher of Waco is now poised to become the Butcher of Little Havana, warns Thompson. And all of South Florida is convulsed by Janet Reno's latest installment of "Damn due process, damn the facts, full speed ahead toward civil unrest." More bollocks from the fringe! If these thugs...these Miami Cubans follow the law and do the right thing there will be no problems...if they decide to ignore the rule of law in their new country they will be subject to arrest...and hopefully deportation! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Hey Bill, exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath ?? well? barley William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/10/00 3:42:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm never going to stop crying out against injustice as human reason so directs. Abortion is the greatest injustice in the world today. What hyperbolic drivel! Get another hobby man, it's not your fight...and none of your buisness! Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Bill, exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business! These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya' tell? If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no? But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is anti-American at best... Peace, Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
From: "Don Huffman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why can't I exercise my right to choose to own you as my slave? It's in the bible. Because the law of land says you can't own slaves here. Just as the law of the land ratified a woman's right to choose to have an abortion or not. And BTW, those who are TRUE believers spell the holy book with a captital "B"... June __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
SEXIST!!! On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Bill, exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business! These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya' tell? If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no? But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is anti-American at best... Peace, Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have no idea what was in the mother's mind; according to her own mother, she had a good life in Cuba, and according to her mother was not unhappy and was not political. Her mother has been quoted as saying she suspects the new husband was behind the decision to leave Cuba, and she believes her daughter was pressured into going. Hardly the description of someone seeking political asylum. I didn't hear this, but I wonder if her Mother was pressured into saying that. I'm sure there was at least subliminal pressure, if not overt pressure. The mother isn't going to come right out and say her daughter hated Castro, is she? But there was something in her account that rang true...she really seems to feel her daughter was apolitical, and was happy in her job. So if the daughter, Elian's mother, really was apolitical, then one does have to ask what prompted her to get on that boat? I have no trust of Castro. I still remember the Cuban Missle Crisis when I was 11 years old and living in Houston, which was a probable target of those missles. As was the NYC metro area where I live...and I well remember the 'duck and cover' A-bomb drills we were put thru in school, because my hometown, being the site of two major military contractors, was considered a prime target, too. Do I 'trust' Castro? No. But I don't trust most of our own politicians, either. But that matters not a whit in this case. What matters is returning a child to his father, irregardless of the politician we don't trust who's in charge. I'm not so sure it's government elites we should be looking for, but other 'elites' Could you be more specific, speculate a little. Cui bono? A man can be stalked as easily as a woman can be... Anyone who knew me, wouldn't stalk me ... they would know I have a 12 gauge. I couldn't imagine being stalked by a woman. Your 12-gauge would be worthless against a cyberstalker, someone who you probably don't even have the correct name for, let alone know where they live... Sure it's a case of U.S. law. It is applied every day to illegal immigrants from countries other than Cuba. It is applied to Haitians and Mexicans. There is no reason for 'international law' to become involved. It is solely the province of U.S. immigration law. And since when did 'international law' take precedence over the Constitution of the United States, and the laws of the sovereign states of the Union? You have again made a very valid point when you mention the immigration laws. You are absolutely right about that, and I'm wrong. FYI, listening to the Rivera show on CNBC as I type this, lawyer Gerry Spence just said that international law states that the child should be given back to the father... June __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
I have to agree, after all the woman can't get pregnant all by herself, there are 2 parties involved here billy boy! barley Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: SEXIST!!! On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, William Shannon wrote: In a message dated 4/10/00 9:18:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Bill, exactly whose business is it? Do tell...I shall await w/ bated breath Well "Barley" I say it's a woman's issue...it's their business! These anti-choice men, mostly with bad facial hair and a suspicious amount of freetime and no discernable source of income, the type of goofs who picket,bomb and harrass outside clinics...they really get my goat...can ya' tell? If you don't like abortion...don't have one...pretty simple really, no? But to insert oneself into other people's VERY PRIVATE business is anti-American at best... Peace, Bill. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send
Re: [CTRL] Juan Miguel Divorced Elian's Mom Years Before Boy's Birth
When I see Juan Miguel on TV, it seems to me that Elian is the spitting image of him. I don't know what the deal was with their marriage, but it seems to me any competant person can tell just by looking that Juan Miguel is Elian's biological father. But of course, since he's obviously not an unfit parent, the only other ploy those who wish to separate this child from his father can fall back on is to claim he isn't actually the father at all. I predict a round of demands for DNA samples will now ensue... June __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote: nessie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: If one is a Jew, one can't be an atheist, and vice-versa. Jews are an ethnic group. Some Jews are religious. Some aren't. Practicing the religion doesn't make one a Jew. Having a Jewish mother does. Really. Ask one. Hey, I'm one. One what? A Moron? FWP. --- http://www.vcn.bc.ca/culturex/The-Question-Nobody-Will-Answer.htm --- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [prj] Fwd: MIND CONTROL TRICKERY
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html From: Mary Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [prj] Fwd: MIND CONTROL TRICKERY Date: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 9:09 PM Rare Book Searches - Ruling Class/Conspiracy Experts: http://a-albionic.com/search.html * Conspiracy Shopping Cart: http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html*Shop for Autos On-Line http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html* Forwarded message... Forum: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Mind Control Mayhem :Tucson, AZ (1998) Date: 04/06/2000 Author: Tory Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds like a mind control victim to me. Why is it that all these "schizophrenics" complain about being controlled by "satellites" or a "microchip in the brain" when this is patently untrue?? In truth, these people ARE being mind controlled, it's just that they are deceived into thinking the mind control emissions emanate from "satellites" or "microchips". This is a commonly used ploy by the intelligence operatives to confuse the mind control victim (and make them appear mad to others) and to prevent the subject from suspecting the operatives are really operating nearby. Audio "hallucinations" providing a running commentary on the subject's thoughts and behaviour implies that the mind control operatives must be CLOSE TO THE SUBJECT and that they have line of sight. If the victim complains of "satellites" or "microchips in the brain" then this is just a deliberate DECEPTION on the part of mind control operatives to prevent the subject from discovering the real source of the mind control emissions. Experience has shown that whenever a "schizophrenic" specifically complains about "satellites" or "microchips" controlling his brain, then this is a clear cut mind control case where the subject has been deliberately duped by the responsible operatives. Mind control operatives the world over are trained in more or less the same tactics... Abemarf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Once again, a victim of mind control is labeled "mentally ill" ! = No, once again a paranoid schizophrenic goes untreated with tragic consequences. Shooting Spree Suspect Says "Transmitter" Controls Her Associated Press - The Yuma Daily Sun, May 24, 1998 TUCSON - The 35 year old woman accused of going on a shooting rampage here said she did it because there is a transmitter in her ear and "people on satellites" told her to kill, a newspaper reported Saturday. Gracie M. Verduzco is charged with first degree murder and four counts of attempted murder in connection with a shooting rampage Thursday that left one man dead and four wounded. She has a history of mental illness }Sounds like severe schizophrenia to me. }tim gueguen 101867 __ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup A-albionic's Books Can Be Browsed and Purchased Conveniently in the Shopping Cart at http://a-albionic.com/shopping.html Shop For Cars On-Line http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html * Shop for Cars On-Line: http://a-albionic.com/ads/srch.html Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let
Re: [CTRL] The Secrets Of The Mojave By Branton available
Nice Idea for a Book. BUT, What about the REAL Threat we have with Foreign Troops in bases on U.S. soil. How about the 25,000 Russian Special shock Troops training inside AREA 51, with manuals in Russian on Training in the Urban Assault technique to Confiscate all Civilian owned Firearms in the U.S. according to State Dept. Paper # 7277 dated in 1961, which explains the U.N. Orders from the Security Council. How about the ChiComms who had taken over the U.S. Navy Base at Long Beach, CA the ONLY deep water port in the Western U.S. Where they have been smuggling in weapons, ammo, drugs and biological warfare materials. The ChiComms Take over of the Panama Canal. With ChiComm soldiers at both ends of the Panama Canal. Again using COSCO shipping as a Front, just like in CA. Not to Mention the "Illegal Aliens" that Cross the Boarder every day, the Mexican Army that crossed over shooting at U.S. Boarder Patrol Agents because the Drug Cartel put a $250,.000 Bounty on our Officers !!! Someone made a "prediction" last year, just before Christmas, that in 2000 there will be a revelation from the Govt. that the UFO's and Alien's are True and came to America to Help us defend our World against Communism. Remember the story: If It Is Too Good To Be True Then It is. Well, It is Already April, Where is the Breakthrough? If All those People Who Think the Aliens Have Landed, Would Fight against the Take Over of our Republic From Our "Human" Enemies - Then We would have "Them" on the run. And Take Back America. Mike Balog U,A.I.C.- VT. ** A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Mr. Poley; Whose Side Are You On Anyway? The Feminazi Liberals, who push their lesbian - Marxist Propaganda or the with the Silent Majority who Like me are Damn sick and Tired of all this Waste of Taxpayers Money; [Illegally collected] All their damn Whinning. As someone who has delivered a baby in the back of an ambulance and in the back of a patrol car, I can see the Difference between Murder and Abortion. Murder is Murder, Abortion is the same no matter how you "justify" it with Pontification by Intellectual Flatulence. IT's Still Murder for Convince. Look at all the Lists of People Waiting for Adoption? NO EXCUSE. The Rich Liberal windbags like Hanoi Jane, Rosie "O", Queen Fatifia and the rest are selling our countrymen and countrywomen Liberal Propaganda that tries to "Justify" their excuses for their pet causes. They along with the "Clinics" are making money hand over fist. The Looser's are the decent people in America, the Sheeple who "watch" those programs put on by the Liberal Shill Mindless Propaganda Machine who are Not Unbiased and Will Not Allow Opposing Views to "spoil" their Propaganda Machine. How would they like it if Someone years ago decided they would be the Excess Human Baggage, they would be the "Cannon Fodder" for the Camps and Next War. I am not a Hypocrite and will stand shoulder to shoulder to Fight for Real Justice, Defend America from All enemies both Foreign and Domestic. If All the Nay Saying Sob Sisters who didn't like it here Really Saw What Life is like in Communist Countries, The Slavery, the Hardships, Starvation, Political Murders, etc. They would Swear their Alligence to America and Stop Pushing Us Into the New World Order. But alot of them are Intellectual Morons, They cannot see that if the NWO Subversives Took Over; they would be the First to Go to the Camps, be targeted for Extermination, Because the NWO would have no further use for them. If You don't Believe me Look in History, Stalin had 50 Million executed for the State. And the "Pol Pot Regimue in Cambodia - Or do You Forget the Killing Fields in which 3 million People were "execuated" by AK47 Toting Communist Propaganda Brainwashed "Teenagers". Read Huxleys "Brave New World" and Orwell's "1984". I don't expect Liberal shills and fellow Disruptor's to Understand. As they Have Allready Sold Us Out for a Few Pieces of Silver. Save us all the heart ache. Why don't they All go to Cuba, the Slave Nation State that everyone Tries to escape if they want to follow the Propaganda there so much. Mike [U.A,.I.C. - VT.] A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Elian Gozales' Father Needs to Defect
Oh. Is That A Fact Really? June "Fonda". Oh, Lacky of Marxist Propaganda? International Law in Reference to Picking Up someone from a Sinking Refugee Vessal - by Our Coast Guard within our Shore - Doesn't Apply. Especially when the Parent Who Fled a Communist County Was the Legal Guardian. BTW Oh Great One. The Boy was Born 2 yrs. After She had been divorced by "Elian's Father". How about that? How About a DNA TEST ? Let Reno the INS Chase the Mexican Drug Scum Back to Mexico and Leave the Boy Alone. The Man with the Plan in Havana Has NO LEGAL Custody. Further, He remarried and has a Child by the New Wife. All this is a Political Game for "El Producto" to Save face. Kennedy Would NOT give in !!! I Remember the Cuban Missle Crisis, My Father was Connected' with Civil Defense then, And I was Later on. And my family fought their way out of Communist Hungry in 1956 too. Does that mean that when they swam across the river to Freedom under machine gun fire from "Friendly Russian T-54 Tanks" that People like you would tell them, Oh , the International Lawyers say you all have to return to the Oppression you fought to leave? I don't think so. And I suppose you were with your "girlfriends" Protesting Vietnam, while our class trip was a one way ticket for many of us. And those of us that returned were spat on and called "Baby Killers" by your friends? Once a Commie Always A Commie Liberal Shill. Looks to me they grew up still fighting the Liberal Cause and Continued to Sell us Out. We're NO FONDA JANE Here, JUNE. Hasta La Viesta Baby. ~ Mike ~ De Oppresso Liber ** Title 10 USC. -- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites
Wow! I didn't think that I'd ever agree with you on anything, but this is way out of hand. I sent in a news article, people called me names. I got mad. Kris asked ME to stop. I DID! Things like this can destroy a list, and I don't blame Kris for that. I'm sick of all of the name calling and insulting of religious beliefs. It's wrong. I didn't do anything wrong in sending that email, and I won't apologise for that. I feel like not contributing and just leaving this list. I send one thing and get days of insults and I'm the only one who gets told to stop. And I'm the only one who does. And people wonder why others only lurk. Gee... To the pro-lifers, you're not going to change the mind of someone til their heart is changed. To the "pro-choicers" (gagging on the name), you are certainly not going to change ours. So stop this crap, please. Tara -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of nessie Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Jane Fonda Says Pro-Life People are Hypocrites See? We agree on something. We probably agree on most things; we human. We all need to not let hot button issues like abortion, the death penalty, and religion in general distract us from our common enemies. We don't even have to like each other to unite against common enemies. let's talk about them instead. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
