[CTRL] Check out Social Security

[Tito Hammond]

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 http://www.justfacts.com/socialsecurity.htm";>Click here: Social
Security

>From justfacts.com

Interesting reading

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: At Arraignment, Milosevic Mocks His U.N. Accusers

[Aleisha Saba]

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I do not believe their census figures, for who takes the census in
Africa?   People in America give the Census takes a lot of problems, as
did I once and this obnoxious woman threatend to have charges filed
against me - oh so officious.  They hire these people off the streets.

So the say now 6 billoin people was the magic number to start the
genocide - legal genocide for those in charge evidently do not call it
all murder, it is legal execution whether it be death by chocolate or
death by AIDS, is the same.

How many babies have been slaughtered and some for body parts?

A woman murders 5 of her children and all they can talk about is "post
partum depresion".walked like a zombie, which is a symptom of
someone over medicated who has lost touch with reality and inasmuch as
she had an aggressive personality one or two of her drugs enhanced this
condition - more sympathy shown for mother than the children?

Did she genocide her children?   Maybe was reading along in the bible
and God told her to sacrifice them?   And her husband looked like a
brain dead moron.

Littleton - kids murdering kids?  Did they genocide these kids for they
were somewhat selective?

Every day now there is a show where zero population is mentioned in
shows designed for children and teenagers; Littleton had classes in
death which they hold oh so secret now - kids being taught to be
homosexuals and lesbians as part of UN project - leading to AIDS which
is just another genocide, but you are given a choice?

It is really very simple - somebody is after the natural resources - the
diamonds, the gold, and the uranium in Africa - King Solomons mines, the
Golden Buddahs and treasures and natural soures of all the world.

Consider the diamonds now the Russians paid their spy in the FBI and
where does Israel get all those billions of dollars in diamonds each
year?   Clinton was to receive 8 million dollar a year as a broker -
investment broker?   Whats he selling now, he travels the world and
maybe cuts a few deals?

So a census is ordered and the bible is the master plan, of course, and
I am so sick of that crap God so loved the world he gave his only
begotten son to die for it - when interpretted this means Yankee Doodle
goes to war and lays himself doon and dee for people not fit to shine
his tattered shoes.

Look at the head Monster William Jefferson Clinton and say this man is
not a serial killer from Waco to Canada to the Balkans.

So anyone who is bit by the snake will live?   And all those who avoid
homosexuality will live?

  For it does seem this is Premeditated Murder by Prophecy in my book.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: At Arraignment, Milosevic Mocks His U.N. Accusers

[Schmidt]

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><<  it is not a war against
>
>AIDS it is a war against childrenUN sponsored. >>
>
>No, Saba. It's a drive to reduce the population on a world wide scale. The
>UN, etc does not want a surplus population, these are unmanageable. They want
>just enough units to keep the society running smoothly so that the lights,
>A/C and water are on in their manions.
>Just enough to keep the infastructure up and running. The children in the
>words of that infamious terrorist, are just collateral damage.
>

The problem with this theory (and I'm sure the illuminati or whoever would have 
figured it out by now) is that the worse condtions in 3rd world countries get, the 
worse the wars and famines and diseases get, the more their population booms. It's a 
form of survival mechanism. If Aids is so terrible, why is the population of Africa 
higher than ever? Pakistan has one of the poorest economies in the world, with 
diseases and conflict etc., yet one of the highest rate of population increase.

The worse conditons get, the more the popution increases. The better and rich er the 
societies, the lower the population increase.


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Re: [CTRL] The Secret GOP War On Tom Daschle

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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<< The producers who brought you http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/23/mooney-c.html";>Doggygate and
the brouhaha over Al Gore's
 alleged claim that he invented the Internet are at work on a brand new
 project: the destruction of Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle. >>

I can't get too excited.  The Republicans are addicted to smear tactics, and
they have to have some target or other for their scatological comments.  I
think Daschle is a competent enough politician to handle their crude
inferences.  Any Democrat who doesn't comprehend that he is being held to a
higher standard of conduct than any Republican has to meet has a taller
problem than Mount Rushmore.  Daschle will be fine.  Prudy

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[CTRL] England turning into a surveillance state

[Bill Richer]

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Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War!

England turning into a surveillance state

http://www0.mercurycenter.com/business/top/031893.htm

BY DAN GILLMOR
Mercury News Technology Columnist

LONDON -- It's always a bit weird to celebrate Independence Day in the
nation from which my country rebelled. The British who note it take the
occasion in good humor.

But I wonder how many think at all about the degree to which they are giving
up fundamental rights, some of which they adopted from their former
colonies. At the dawn of the Information Age, the nation that gave us the
Magna Carta -- one of the seminal documents of liberty -- seems poised to
become a surveillance state.

I'm a fan of the British people and their culture, but today I'm especially
glad to be an American.

The Magna Carta's basic principle, that not even the king was above the law,
hasn't been repealed. But law in the United Kingdom has become a blunt
instrument, a sledgehammer against liberty.

 >From pervasive video cameras in public places to Draconian laws giving
authorities almost unlimited ability to spy on citizens, the British
government flouts basic notions of individual privacy. Yet there's
surprisingly little outcry as encroachments on liberty grow more pronounced.

It doesn't seem to matter which political party is in power. Labor and
Conservative governments alike have enacted laws that would send American
liberty watchers into apoplectic diatribes.

Walk down a street here and cameras follow your moves. At last count, more
than 300,000 video cameras were keeping tabs on public places, including
streets, housing developments, shopping districts and parking lots. It's all
in the name of curbing crime.

I was here a year ago, when Parliament was debating the notorious Regulation
of Investigatory Powers Act, or RIP, proposed by Prime Minister Tony Blair's
Labor government. It passed, to the dismay of an array of civil
libertarians.

RIP gives the government unprecedented power to tap people's communications.
Among its worst features, the law threatens the security of encrypted
information, with jail time for anyone who refuses to turn over an
encryption ``key'' when authorities demand it.

Most recently, the Blair government has been leading the charge for a
European Union proposal that would allow individual governments to order
telecommunications providers to store seven years worth of customer voice
and data communications -- and give police access to those records. Again,
it's all to reduce crime, say apologists for this over-the-top idea.

Fighting crime also is behind the government's plan for a massive expansion
of a national database of DNA samples. It would include not only DNA from
criminals, but also DNA from people who volunteer to give genetic
information during police investigations. One legislator has suggested
taking DNA samples from all newborn babies.

As the Independent newspaper reported in May, however, half of the police
asked to give samples -- to distinguish their DNA from other people's DNA
found at crime scenes -- refused on privacy grounds.

There's some other dissent, largely from editorial writers and civil
liberties groups, but it doesn't seem to have made much of a dent. The
British people seem to have accepted the idea that they will be pervasively
spied upon. Sadly, they seem to have happily traded liberty for temporary
safety.

None of this is to suggest that the United States is a consistent paragon of
respect for individual rights. The recently departed Clinton administration
was the most hostile to civil liberties since Richard Nixon and his thugs
ran the government, and the Bush administration isn't looking appreciably
better in most respects.

Yet the U.S. Supreme Court, in a decision that will reverberate for years,
said last month that police were not entitled to use new technology --
heat-sensing devices in this case -- to effectively spy inside people's
homes without court order. Those of us who'd almost given up on the court --
strongly pro-government on almost every other key ``law and order'' issue
recently -- found new hope that the justices had begun to recognize how far
out of balance things had gotten.

In coming years, we will need to confront new threats to liberty.

Corporations are gaining power over our lives in unprecedented ways, and the
traditional remedy -- voting with one's wallet -- has limited value when
monopolists and oligopolists rule a cartel economy, sometimes in concert
with corrupt governments. Politicians who either fail to recognize this, or
who tacitly (or overtly) support such vast corporate authority, are enemies
of our rights, too.

Defending liberty is not a sometime job. We have to keep at it, because the
forces that threaten our rights are well-organized, well-funded and
committed.

Tonight, I'll join a group of American journalists -- we're here to speak at
a conference on new media -- at the Savoy 

Re: [CTRL] Judge, Jury and Executioner

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 07/04/2001 10:16:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
 Chicago - July 4, 2001 (IAP NEWS) - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
 and his closest advisers, known as the "kitchen cabinet",  said on Tuesday
 that Israel would not only stick to its policy of tracking down and
 assassinating Palestinian civilians who are actively involved in resisting
 the illegal occupation of their ancestral land, but be given an even
 broader license to do so. The new act would be directed at Palestinians
 whom the Israelis thought were on the verge of committing an attack, and
 not after the fact. >>


Whoopee!  At last something to do when the bars close.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Running on Empty j2

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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<< The CIA and German backed KLA was charged with creating a civil war between
 Kosovars and Serbs in Kosovo. >>

The problem between the Kosovars and Serbs was a bit late in the game.  Think
of the early war between the Croations and the Serbs with Bosnia thrown in
for better catalyst.  Think of beautiful Sarajevo reduced to scrap.  Remember
when they shot the lovers who had permission to pass into Serbia.  Never mind
my liberal sieve.  Think about George Bush Sr. saying nothing, doing nothing
to stop the mess.  Years later Eagleburger said it was because he had
business interests there.  Seems all our international movement during
Republican administrations have to do with Bush family business interests.
Prudy

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[CTRL] FoxNews: Condit Talked of Being 'In Trouble', Says Flight Attendant

[MIKE SPITZER]

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[I wonder why any other outlet isn't reporting this "in trouble"
tory???  --MS]


Condit Talked of Being 'In Trouble', Says Flight Attendant

Wednesday, July 04, 2001

By Rita Cosby
Respond to Editor
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WASHINGTON - Rep. Gary Condit said he might be "in trouble" and have to
"disappear for a while" shortly after Chandra Levy vanished, says the woman
who also told Fox News she was asked to lie about her year-long affair with
the California congressman.

"He called me approximately May 5 or 6 saying, 'I'm going to have to
disappear for a while, don't call me,'" flight attendant Anne Marie Smith
said in an exclusive interview on Monday.

"I said, 'Well, are you in trouble? Is it your job? Is it your family?' And
he said, 'No, none of that, but I think I may be in some trouble.'"

Smith said that when she finally got in touch with Condit, to tell him that
she had been contacted by the FBI, he did not respond well.

"I said, I have been contacted by this agency, and I want you to know and I
said, you know, it was just a routine questioning, they said they would
keep my name confidential,"
she said.

"He was really upset with me, he said, 'Oh, I see how you are, I see what
you're doing.' And I said, 'No, you know, I've never been in a situation
like this.' ... He said 'You don't have to talk to the media, you don't
have to talk to anybody. You don't even have to talk to the FBI.'"

Condit's office on Tuesday issued a two-sentence statement denying he told
anyone not to discuss the Levy case with investigators.

"I have repeatedly urged anyone who has any information that could help
police find Chandra Levy to come forward, tell all they know, and be as
forthcoming as possible," the statement read.

I have not asked anyone to refrain from discussing this matter with
authorities, nor have I suggested anyone mislead the authorities."

Smith reportedly told the FBI she ended the romantic relationship with
Condit when she saw press reports about Levy, a source close to the woman
told Fox News.

Smith also said Condit told her he was "lonely in Washington," with his
chronically ill wife spending 99 percent of her time in California.

In the same interview, first reported on the Fox News Channel Monday night,
Smith also said the congressman asked her to sign a declaration denying
their relationship, and told her she did not need to talk to the FBI
following Levy's disappearance.

Smith told Fox News she refused to sign the draft of a declaration that was
submitted by Condit attorneys to her lawyers, and insisted the California
Democrat knew the document was a lie.

"Mr. Condit knew it was false and he was asking me to sign it and, I
personally could never have signed it," Smith said in an interview on
Monday. "I would never have signed it. And he was urging me to sign it, he
said you don't want anything, this could be personally embarrassing for
both of us."

Smith's lawyers on Monday evening supplied Fox News with a copy of what
they said was a draft of the declaration. They said the document contained
a note written by Don Thornton, an investigator who works with Condit's
West Coast attorney.

Jim Robinson, Smith's attorney, claims to have had a phone conversation
with Thornton in which the latter referred to the form as an "affidavit."
Robinson says the document is indeed an affidavit, as opposed to a
declaration, since it is composed of the specialized vocabulary of the
legal profession called legalese.

In a statement released Tuesday, Condit lawyer Joseph W. Cotchett said it
was Robinson who had requested the "draft statement" to set the record
straight about Condit and Smith's relationship. Later, Smith declined to
sign the statement, saying it was a "personal matter" that "she didn't want
to get involved in any further," he said.

And while he didn't outright deny an affair between Condit and Smith,
Cotchett said that he had spoken with her, and she'd said the relationship
had been exaggerated.

"She indicated it was totally out of proportion and that her roomates were
paid by the Star to talk about her," the statement read. "She was very
cordial, but also very, very embarrassed."

Smith, 39, also said she knew the California Democrat was married and
suspected he might be seeing someone else, but she didn't know for sure.

Levy, a 24-year-old California native who had just finished an internship
at the Bureau of Prisons, was last seen on April 30. She came from Modesto,
Calif., Condit's congressional district.

Condit, 53 and married, has repeatedly said through public statements he
and Levy were only good friends. In an interview with D.C. police
investigating her disappearance, he strongly hinted the two had been
lovers, sources have told Fox News.

Condit told investigators be broke off the friendship only two days before
she disappeared, according to Fox News police sources.

When Condit broke with Levy with the explanation she was moving back to
California, she was distra

Re: [CTRL] articles on Proctor - LSD prison experimentation and Cameron

[Smart News]

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Dear list,

Forwarded with permission.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

PS These may be heavy for survivors of ra/mc to read.


LSD "guinea pig" wins key court victories

By JIM BRONSKILL and MIKE BLANCHFIELD
Southam Newspapers
OTTAWA - The federal government and a former prison psychologist have
confessed to battery and negligence for giving LSD to a teenaged inmate in
the 1960s.
The admission by the government and psychologist Mark Eveson in Ontario's
Superior Court of Justice is a key victory for former prisoner Dorothy
Proctor in her three-year battle for compensation.
A total of 23 female inmates were administered LSD as part of a 1961 study
at the now-defunct federal Prison for Women in Kingston, Ont.
At 18 and serving a three-year robbery sentence, Proctor received at least
one dose of the powerful hallucinogen in a 1.5-metre-by-2.5-metre windowless
basement segregation cell, lit by a single bulb with only a mattress and a
hole in which to pass bodily waste.
In 1998, Proctor sued the government and former Correctional Service of
Canada (CSC) officials for giving her the drug, saying it has caused brain
damage and terrifying hallucinations.
The lawsuit touched off a protracted court fight over the nature of the LSD
tests, the ethics of using prisoners in the drug program and whether
officials breached a duty of care to the prisoners in their charge.
The case focuses on events during the early history of the fabled
psychedelic drug, a pre-hippie era when LSD was known primarily to academic
researchers and scientists, including some who investigated the drug for the
U.S. Central Intelligence Agency as part of its quest to explore the human
mind.
Among the correspondence filed with the court by Proctor's lawyers is a 1953
letter to the federal prison service from Dr. Ewen Cameron of Montreal, who
would later undertake mind-control research funded by the CIA.
The Canadian government argues LSD was administered to female prisoners with
the aim of "promoting the health of individuals" - not for experimental
reasons.
However, the government concedes there is no record of Proctor having
consented to receiving the hallucinogen among the thousands of pages of
prison documents that have surfaced in the case during the past three years.
The government and Eveson admitted April 30 to assault and negligence,
declarations that were accepted by the court in early May.
Proctor is suing for $5 million, though the court has not yet addressed the
issue of damages.
A primary point of contention in Proctor's suit remains unsettled because
the government does not allow that officials were responsible for a
fundamental lapse in care toward her.
In an amended statement of claim filed in May, Proctor has asked Master
Robert Beaudoin, the court official presiding over the case, to rule in her
favour Aug. 28 on the final point, without a trial, on the weight of the
evidence presented to date.
She argues the defendants owed her a duty, "as a vulnerable minor and as an
inmate," to protect her from harm and safeguard her well-being.
In particular, she contends that Eveson, who ran the LSD program, and Dr.
George Scott, the prison psychiatrist who oversaw the tests, were "placed in
a position of trust" with her, to the point where she "saw them as father
figures."
Proctor claims the men, in counselling her to take the drug, were primarily
motivated by their desire to use her for experimental purposes, as opposed
to promotion of health and wellness.
In early 1998, a Correctional Service board of inquiry recommended that
Proctor receive compensation and a formal apology.
However, the government referred the matter to the McGill University Centre
for Medicine, Ethics and Law. Proctor, who had run out of patience, went to
court.
A subsequent investigation by the Ottawa Citizen and Southam News showed
that hundreds of federal inmates were used as test subjects in scientific
experiments during the 1960s and '70s. Prisoners took part in trials of
untested pharmaceuticals such as penicillin and anti-stress pills, spent
days in dark cells during sensory-deprivation research and received painful
shocks in studies of cigarette smokers.
In a report released in May of last year, the McGill centre recommended the
government stop stalling and agree to compensate prisoners who were
subjected to "unethical" experiments behind bars.
The authors suggested the prison service establish an independent committee
to review the claims of federal inmates used as scientific guinea pigs in
research.
However, the prison service seems unprepared to deal with the
recommendations while Proctor's suit is before the courts, indicates a
briefing note obtained under the Access to Information Act. "Because of
current litigation (Proctor), CSC cannot make specific comments with respect
to the observations that pertain to compensation of inmates in the report."


(Southam News and Ottawa Citizen)


Lawsuit paints LSD experiment as journey to the mind's

[CTRL] MB: Condit faces new allegations

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.modbee.com/metro/story/0,1113,279636,00.html

Condit faces new allegations

By JEFF JARDINE
BEE STAFF WRITER
(Published: Wednesday, July 04, 2001)

" One day about a year ago, Vince Flammini picked up Gary Condit at San
Francisco International Airport and drove the congressman into the city.

"On the way, he said we were going to go shopping to get his grandson a
baseball glove," said Flammini, 62, Condit's driver for nearly a decade.
"When we got to the shopping center, he said, 'You wait here. I need to
meet someone.' I said, 'Who?' He said, 'A stewardess.' It was the same
stewardess I saw on TV."

That flight attendant, Anne Marie Smith, in a Fox News interview first
broadcast Monday night, claimed that she had a relationship with Condit.

Flammini said that a few months after seeing Smith and Condit meet in the
mall, the congressman told him to find another line of work.

"I think I knew too much," Flammini said. "I wasn't in the room when they
were making love, but she's telling the truth (about the relationship)."

Indeed, Flammini knows enough about Condit to be interviewed by the FBI
last month as part of the investigation into the disappearance of Chandra
Levy.
Levy, a 24-year-old Modestan, was last seen April 30 in Washington.

Condit's relationship with Levy -- in a statement soon after she
disappeared, he called her a "good friend" -- has been a focus of the
investigation. Washington, D.C., police still classify the Levy inquiry as
a missing person case, not a criminal investigation.

Flammini said he met Condit nearly 30 years ago through people who were
helping Condit in his run for Ceres City Council -- an election he won.

He said he and Condit lifted weights at a gym that Flammini ran in Modesto.

He began working as a field representative for Condit in Modesto about 10
years ago, after they had become "hangout buddies," as Flammini put it.

Flammini said he never met Levy, since his duties with Condit were all in
California. Nor did Condit ever mention Levy to him by name, Flammini said.

And he said he does not believe that Condit could have been responsible for
her disappearance.

"He would never hurt anyone," Flammini said. "He's not physical."

Condit is, however, capable of inflicting emotional damage, Flammini said.
He said he learned that after last summer's Democratic National Convention
in Los Angeles. After returning to Ceres, Flammini said, Condit dismissed
him during a short telephone call a day or two later.

"I still don't understand what I did to upset him," Flammini said. "It's
like he has a split personality. He can break you mentally. That's
something he has that hurts you. He broke my heart."

Flammini said he is not speaking out to hurt Condit.

"It's just that it makes me sick to my stomach that a beautiful young girl
is missing," Flammini said. "That's one of the reasons I think Gary should
open up. During the Lewinsky thing, Gary told me the president was an idiot
for not coming forward with the truth."



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[CTRL] ZDNet: Hitachi weaves chip into paper money

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A tiny identity chip could have massive implications for security - and
also for your privacy

Hitachi has developed a chip that could be woven into paper money to help
identify counterfeits, and which could also have wide ramifications for
identification and surveillance technologies.

The chip, called Mew, measures just 0.4mm on a side, and stores information
such as identification and security code. It includes 128 bits of read-only
memory (ROM) and RF wireless circuitry that allows it to transmit over a
distance of about 30cm. If inserted in money, a reader unit would be able
to instantly detect authentic bills.

Most identity chips are currently several millimetres on a side.

While the chip currently requires a reader unit to work, its size carries
big implications for the future of identity technology. For example, future
chips could be implanted into all paper money and be connected wirelessly
to the Internet, so that authorities would be able to monitor the movement
of all cash.

Such chips could also be embedded in other consumer products to track them
in the event of theft.

Hitachi says it is considering adding rewritable memory to the device, but
for the moment is using ROM to prevent data falsification.

The chip will begin sampling this autumn and Hitachi will begin marketing
it next spring. Mew Solutions, the venture formed by Hitachi to promote the
chip, expects sales of $145m (about £98m) by 2005.

See Chips Central for the latest on processors and the semiconductor
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[CTRL] Lord, Please have mercy . . .

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Can we please can these infernal flame wars. Saba aka...aka... doesn't care
for June and the feeling seems to be mutual either you two get a handle on
it. start your own flame list, Pull in the claws, let it go or get gone.

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[CTRL] Hemp vs. Marijuana

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http://www.poppiespleasure.com/hemp.html

Hemp vs. Marijuana

The flowering tops and to a lesser extent, the leaves of the Cannabis Sativa plant
contain delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). This chemical substance gives marijuana
its psychoactive properties. Generally Cannabis Sativa strains with a THC
concentration of less than 0.3 % are classified as low-THC or fiber hemp. At this low
concentration, the psychoactive properties of the hemp plant are nonexistent.
Marijuana, on the other hand has an average potency of 5-15% THC.  In any Cannabis
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[CTRL] Common Misperceptions About Hemp and Easy Answers

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(Maybe if the potheads on this list would sober up for a while they will actually be 
able
to read something, instead of continuing to demonstrate their ignorance. --SW)

Common Misperceptions About Hemp and Easy Answers

Want to know the difference between hemp and marijuana? Ask an expert. Dr. Dave
West holds a Ph.D. in Plant Breeding from the University of Minnesota and has spent
18 years as a commercial corn breeder. Since 1993 he has served as an advisor to
the emerging hemp industry regarding industrial hemp germplasm. His document
Hemp and Marijuana- Myths and Realities provides straight facts about industrial hemp
and dispels some of the myths surrounding it. To view a copy, click here.   (PDF file
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[CTRL] Cannabis was once held in high esteem

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Dec. 21, 2000, 10:51PM

Cannabis was once held in high esteem

By THOM MARSHALL
The Houston Chronicle

Our next president, George W. Bush, struck a chord with his acceptance speech
references to Thomas Jefferson and the plans he has to focus upon that forefather's
ideals.

Certainly, the nation owes much to Jefferson for his key role in getting us started. 
And a
funny thing is, if today's drug war tactics had applied back in his time, and if he had
been busted with all those cannabis plants at Monticello, Jefferson may well have been
a convicted criminal instead of an elected president.

The same is true of most everyone involved in agriculture back in those times, 
including
George Washington. That is because practically everything they needed was produced
on their own farms. And they needed those cannabis plants.

Not to inhale. They valued the crop for its fiber more than its fumes. It makes a 
sturdy
cloth. As a matter of fact, when prehistoric man invented weaving, he likely used
strands from the cannabis plant, judging from remnants discovered by archaeologists.

It makes strong ropes, too. So, from the same crop, our forebears could harvest both
the sails needed to move their ships and the lines needed to rig them. It was
considered such an important resource, in fact, that the first law regarding the 
cannabis
plant in the New World required colonial farmers to grow it.

When the Revolutionary War came along, the famous battleship Old Ironsides was
fitted out with just such sails and rope. Betsy Ross turned out the original Old Glory
using canvas made from the cannabis plant.

It also provides handy raw materials for making paper, the stalks being much faster
growing and easier to cut than trees. Would you care to guess what kind of paper was
used for the original drafts of both the Declaration of Independence and the
Constitution?

Hemp vs. marijuana

Cannabis grown for industrial uses is called hemp. Cannabis grown for smoking is
called marijuana. The folks who would like to grow hemp or who would like to make
products from hemp grown in the United States, say the two are different.

They point out that hemp plants are selected and planted and cultivated to produce tall
stalks, whereas the emphasis in marijuana production is on the leaves and blooms of
plants that spread out more.

Hemp fans say their cannabis plants don't contain nearly as much THC (the active
ingredient prized by pot smokers) as marijuana plants. They say it would benefit
American farmers to grow hemp, and point to the many thousands of products that can
be made from the plant, everything from wall board and other building materials to
biofuels that we could use in place of fossil fuels and nuclear power.

However, officials in charge of the drug war make no distinction between hemp and
marijuana. They say if growing hemp were allowed, it would be too difficult to prevent
people from growing marijuana.

`Ditchweed' growing wild

Of course, hemp can be found growing wild in parts of the country. The government
drug warriors spend millions of dollars a year to eradicate patches of it that come to
their attention.

Commonly called "ditchweed," some of it may have descended from the vast fields of
hemp grown during World War II. Just five years after the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 put
an end to hemp crops on U.S. farms, the nation's supply of fiber for many military uses
was cut off when Japan took the Philippines. So the government encouraged patriotic
farmers to resume growing "Hemp for Victory."

The U.S.-grown hemp fibers were used in uniforms, boots and a wide variety of military
items. I even read somewhere that the parachute that saved the life of George Bush,
the elder, when he had to bail out of his airplane over the Pacific Ocean during the 
war,
had some hemp in it.

Somewhere else I read that a U.S. farmer up near the northern border of our country
made on his grain crops only about one-tenth as much an acre as a Canadian farmer
only a few miles away made by growing hemp.

Canadian farmers are free to grow hemp and U.S. farmers are not. Don't you wonder
what Thomas Jefferson would have to say about this, if there were some way to ask
him?

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[CTRL] Happy Immigration Day! (fwd)

[Yardbird]

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Vdare - http://www.vdare.com

At least, that's what Wall Street Journal Editor Bob Bartley thinks it
should be called. James Fulford thinks it's about, well, independence
http://www.vdare.com/fulford/independence_day.htm Paul Gottfried comments
on the Great Goldberg Wars
http://www.vdare.com/gottfried/first_universal_goldberg.htm ; National
Review humorist and ideology commissar J. Goldberg concedes his point
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_070201.htm Peter Brimelow's Arizona
Tribune response to immigration thug Raoul Lowery Contreras latest attack
on us http://www.vdare.com/pb/contreras.htm Sam Francis on the Duluth
Guiltfest, the emptying-out of Mexico, the attack on the U.S.!!! [it was
just a matter of time] flag http://www.vdare.com/sam_francis.htm James
Fulford finds that Americans are a Protected Class - in Britain!
http://www.vdare.com/fulford/scenes_from_britain.htm COMING SOON: Chilton
Wiliamson on Safire on July 4 vs. Independence Day.
FORWARD TO FRIENDS AND, ESPECIALLY, ENEMIES!
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SIGHTINGS

[Aleisha Saba]

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Once again June my husband would not given you the time of day, a fat
frump like you.

Assuming of course everything I have heard of you is true..such a
big lie June - you do believe I am someone from your past that maybe
knows too much about you - like the lady who said the dog catchers were
charing $75.00 to adopt a dog and most people could not afford this -
you response if you cannot afford the $75.00 you cannot afford the dog?

Real rip off she said  and was she disgusted to think her tax dollars
had been contributing in even a remote way, with you.

Go you said, donate some time to the dog pound.

Now I have seen this stuff too  -  people sitting on their big fat asses
with volunteers doing their work for them.

They could live off their own fat for a year 

I will say this, there is nothing that disgusts me more than someone
saying "oh she thinks she is so much better than anyone else" - well
June anyone who makes statements like this, nine times out of ten the
individual accused of such an offense, usually is much better than the
accuser.

If becomes more obvious every day,  the highest mountain you will ever
climb is a mole hill you sure has hell do not have much to show for
your life June.

So go back to your HUD apartment and continue to give advice to those
who probably do not need it anyway.

And do continue to knock the ones who have struggled to improve
themselves - say the fatherless children who have dined with Princes and
sat with Presidents - and mingled with people you only know about from a
history book.

Cream always comes to the top, June;  for every poor man in his own
castle who fought for a piece of land, knows that - but then your
pedigree is someone in doubt.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?

[Rachel Manning]

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Now who am I June - RachelIV or am I Saba, Colleen Agent Prov, or one of
your many, many "friends" who just plain think you are ridiculous.

Do not respond to this address for it is being discontinued.

Now this is an old trick you used to play - and Hotmail is so full of
your accounts - well things change and they are eliminating people like
you June.

Saba

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Re: [CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?

[Rachel Manning]

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You say  you knew my husband Rev. Donna Logan aka June -

Tell me, how do you communicate with the dead???

Or do you have a direct line to God?   Does he call you collect June?

Love that "cainine control"

Tell me do you wear a license?

Do you believe I am someone else June?  You said you knew my husband and
infer perhaps you went out with him?

My husband was a gentleman June, and would never have looked at the
likes of you -

If there is some problem as to where I live June it is in Ohio - ask
Kris for I sent him a check with my name and address on it June.

So unless you are also involved in necromancy, or the raising of the
dead - and even at that, I doubt very much my husband would be
interested in you ..

Tell me did he put your Gay Pride Flag over your face and do it for -
whatever?

Bet you walk with your left arm,  like Janet Reno perhaps?

Saba

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[CTRL] Cyber-crime justifies world government

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Cyber-crime justifies world government
By Thomas C Greene in Washington
Posted: 31/05/2001 at 03:06 GMT


The Council of Europe, enthused by considerable American guidance and
support, has issued a proposed final draft for an international cybercrime
treaty to harmonize statutes related to electronic criminal activity,
cross-border police cooperation, and judicial policy throughout Europe and
North America, more or less along lines preferred by the United States.

Organized gangsters, terrorists and sexually-exploited children loom large
in the document, as they always do when the natural rights of innocent
adults are to be sacrificed to law-enforcement expedience.

We're accustomed to that much; what's special about this item is the
banana-republic-style contempt it exhibits towards accepted standards of
political accountability, legislative procedure and state sovereignty.

A number of crimes have got to be made both uniform and reciprocal among all
signatory countries for the scheme to work properly; thus national
legislatures will have to be made compliant.

Or, as the document puts it, signatories shall cooperate "on the basis of
uniform or reciprocal legislation and domestic laws to the widest extent
possible."

Legislative Blackmail
Call us naive, but we always imagined that legislative bodies were meant,
ideally, anyway, to be independent of national bureaucracies and responsive
to the will of the people.

The COE dispels this quaint myth. "Each Party shall adopt such legislative
and other measures as may be necessary to establish as criminal offences
under its domestic law" a shopping list of naughty on-line behavior, the
document announces coolly.

Just like that, national and state legislatures will be expected to bring
their laws in line with approved 'international' standards; but by what
mechanism, the document's authors don't quite say.

Perhaps a combination of back-channel horse trading, political blackmail and
PR sound-bite brutality, if not an outright administrative decree, is
presumed.

The list of items the COE insists must be made illegal includes unauthorized
access to a computer system; the interception of private communications (by
players other than by Big Brother, naturally); damaging, deleting or
altering computer data; producing, distributing or possessing child
pornography; and data forgery.

Signatories will be graciously permitted to require that actual harm be
demonstrated in order for sketchy computer activity to be made criminal, or
not as they see fit.

As for kiddie porn, signatories have the option of not criminalizing mere
possession, and of adjusting the definition of a minor to somewhere between
eighteen and sixteen years of age, but no lower.

Of course, the legal age of consent in some jurisdictions is as low as
fourteen. We've often wondered how it is that an individual can be old
enough to consent to engage in sexual activity but not old enough to consent
to be photographed whilst going about it. It's another of life's mysteries,
apparently.

Snooping Sanctified
Now for the scary part. The COE decrees that all signatories rig their
legislative agenda to empower law-enforcement bodies to monitor, intercept,
search and seize computer data and packet traffic pretty much according to
their convenience.

When the Feds suspect that a crime may have been committed, or may be
imminent, they should be allowed to order the storage and preservation of
any data or packet traffic until they make up their minds whether or not
they have enough evidence to proceed with a criminal case.

Parties to the new scheme "shall adopt such legislative and other measures
as may be necessary to oblige [anyone in control of computer data] to
preserve and maintain the integrity of that computer data for a period of
time as long as necessary, up to a maximum of 90 days, to enable the
competent authorities to seek its disclosure."

And of course the data custodians -- an ISP, say, or a network
administrator -- must keep their mouths shut under penalty of criminal
liability.

"Each Party shall adopt such legislative or other measures as may be
necessary to oblige the custodian or other person who is to preserve the
computer data to keep confidential the undertaking of such procedures,"
we're told.

It appears that the treaty would also do an end-run around the normal
practice of obtaining a warrant before snooping.

"Each Party shall adopt such legislative and other measures as may be
necessary to empower its competent authorities to order: a person in its
territory to submit specified computer data in that person's possession or
control, which is stored in a computer system or a computer-data storage
medium; and a service provider offering its services in the territory of the
Party to submit subscriber information relating to such services in that
service provider's possession or control."

'Subscriber information' can involve "the subscriber's identity, postal or
geogra

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SIGHTINGS

[YnrChyldzWyld]

-Caveat Lector-

On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
>You seem to always try to get others removed from lists but this one
>which I ran acrosss, they gave you the big boot for you were a very
>disruptive element which they found they could no longer tolerate?
>
>So you write to Amelia and ask her for a copy;  I do not have time to
>fool around with ou any further.

As I said, no one holds a candle to you when it comes to lying,
COLLEEN...

Name one list I've been removed from.


>It has been let us say quite a bore - from green tea to the dog catchers
>daughter - to Plum Island which obviously you know nothing about other
>than what you glean from the work of others.

I never claimed I knew anything about Plum Island, other than what I've
posted, which quite succinctly stated that I'd READ about it in a local
paper.

You, OTOH, continue to make extraordinary claims, COLLEEN, for which you
consistently refuse to provide proof or any sort of substantiantion.


>Forgive me for as they say I laughed my tiny behind off

Watch it, COLLEEN...that was one of the things your ex-hubby said caused
him to leave you, that he couldn't stand your bony ass...you laugh what
little you have off, then you'll just have sharp bones...

Your hubby told me being in bed with you was like sleeping in a bed full
of wire hangers...


June

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Re: [CTRL] Greenpeace Protests But Media Very Quiet

[c.]

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it was well covered in the tv news in the uk today- lots of interviews and
good film of people dressed as missiles running around the base, security
men kinda floundering after them. one guy was still up a mast this morning-
the voice over gave a bnit of background about how he was a well know
daredevil climber- sent in on a mission to stay i the base after most of
them had been rounded up. and he did. but it is so cool to hear the
journalist commenting so sympathetically about it. the authorities came
across all surly like.  :)
and it is like footie, the post match interview- asking if they had achieved
their objective and the woman is nodding her head and saying , like, yeah it
went very well, better than expected etc etc.

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Subject: [CTRL] Greenpeace Protests But Media Very Quiet


> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Although this seems like quite an issue, there is only one reference to it
in
> the British press, and the NYTimes doesn't mention it at all.  Seems the
> liberal media is letting us down again.  Prudy
>
>
> Protesters still at large in UK 'Star Wars' base
>

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[CTRL] England turning into a surveillance state

[radman]

-Caveat Lector-

England turning into a surveillance state

http://www0.mercurycenter.com/business/top/031893.htm

BY DAN GILLMOR
Mercury News Technology Columnist

LONDON -- It's always a bit weird to celebrate Independence Day in the
nation from which my country rebelled. The British who note it take the
occasion in good humor.

But I wonder how many think at all about the degree to which they are giving
up fundamental rights, some of which they adopted from their former
colonies. At the dawn of the Information Age, the nation that gave us the
Magna Carta -- one of the seminal documents of liberty -- seems poised to
become a surveillance state.

I'm a fan of the British people and their culture, but today I'm especially
glad to be an American.

The Magna Carta's basic principle, that not even the king was above the law,
hasn't been repealed. But law in the United Kingdom has become a blunt
instrument, a sledgehammer against liberty.

 >From pervasive video cameras in public places to Draconian laws giving
authorities almost unlimited ability to spy on citizens, the British
government flouts basic notions of individual privacy. Yet there's
surprisingly little outcry as encroachments on liberty grow more pronounced.

It doesn't seem to matter which political party is in power. Labor and
Conservative governments alike have enacted laws that would send American
liberty watchers into apoplectic diatribes.

Walk down a street here and cameras follow your moves. At last count, more
than 300,000 video cameras were keeping tabs on public places, including
streets, housing developments, shopping districts and parking lots. It's all
in the name of curbing crime.

I was here a year ago, when Parliament was debating the notorious Regulation
of Investigatory Powers Act, or RIP, proposed by Prime Minister Tony Blair's
Labor government. It passed, to the dismay of an array of civil
libertarians.

RIP gives the government unprecedented power to tap people's communications.
Among its worst features, the law threatens the security of encrypted
information, with jail time for anyone who refuses to turn over an
encryption ``key'' when authorities demand it.

Most recently, the Blair government has been leading the charge for a
European Union proposal that would allow individual governments to order
telecommunications providers to store seven years worth of customer voice
and data communications -- and give police access to those records. Again,
it's all to reduce crime, say apologists for this over-the-top idea.

Fighting crime also is behind the government's plan for a massive expansion
of a national database of DNA samples. It would include not only DNA from
criminals, but also DNA from people who volunteer to give genetic
information during police investigations. One legislator has suggested
taking DNA samples from all newborn babies.

As the Independent newspaper reported in May, however, half of the police
asked to give samples -- to distinguish their DNA from other people's DNA
found at crime scenes -- refused on privacy grounds.

There's some other dissent, largely from editorial writers and civil
liberties groups, but it doesn't seem to have made much of a dent. The
British people seem to have accepted the idea that they will be pervasively
spied upon. Sadly, they seem to have happily traded liberty for temporary
safety.

None of this is to suggest that the United States is a consistent paragon of
respect for individual rights. The recently departed Clinton administration
was the most hostile to civil liberties since Richard Nixon and his thugs
ran the government, and the Bush administration isn't looking appreciably
better in most respects.

Yet the U.S. Supreme Court, in a decision that will reverberate for years,
said last month that police were not entitled to use new technology --
heat-sensing devices in this case -- to effectively spy inside people's
homes without court order. Those of us who'd almost given up on the court --
strongly pro-government on almost every other key ``law and order'' issue
recently -- found new hope that the justices had begun to recognize how far
out of balance things had gotten.

In coming years, we will need to confront new threats to liberty.

Corporations are gaining power over our lives in unprecedented ways, and the
traditional remedy -- voting with one's wallet -- has limited value when
monopolists and oligopolists rule a cartel economy, sometimes in concert
with corrupt governments. Politicians who either fail to recognize this, or
who tacitly (or overtly) support such vast corporate authority, are enemies
of our rights, too.

Defending liberty is not a sometime job. We have to keep at it, because the
forces that threaten our rights are well-organized, well-funded and
committed.

Tonight, I'll join a group of American journalists -- we're here to speak at
a conference on new media -- at the Savoy Hotel's American Bar. I plan to
raise a glass to liberty. Wherever you are today

Re: [CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?

[YnrChyldzWyld]

-Caveat Lector-

On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
>So the dog catcher's daughter is a liar . the not so reverend Donna
>J. Logan, aka Rev. Coal, aka June, aka whatever ..

I've never lied about any aspect of my life, COLLEEN...I have always been
most open about my name and how legitimate (or otherwise) my 'Rev'
credentials are...I have never claimed otherwise.

No one holds a candle to you when it comes to lying, COLLEEN...



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[CTRL] "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?"

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"What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?"

Frederick Douglass, 5 July 1852

"Fellow-citizens, pardon me, allow me to ask, why am I called upon to
speak here to-day?  What have I, or those I represent, to do with
your national independence?  Are the great principles of political
freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of
Independence, extended to us? And am I, therefore, called upon to
bring our humble offering to the national altar, and to confess the
benefits and express devout gratitude for the blessings resulting
from your independence to us?"

"...I am not included within the pale of this glorious anniversary!
Your high independence only reveals the immeasurable distance between
us.  The blessings in which you, this day, rejoice, are not enjoyed
in common.  The rich inheritance of justice, liberty, prosperity and
independence, bequeathed by your fathers, is shared by you, not by
me.  The sunlight that brought life and healing to you, has brought
stripes and death to me.  This Fourth of July is yours, not mine.
You may rejoice, I must mourn.  To drag a man in fetters into the
grand illuminated temple of liberty, and call upon him to join you in
joyous anthems, were inhuman mockery and sacrilegious irony.  Do you
mean, citizens, to mock me, by asking me to speak to-day?  If so,
there is a parallel to your conduct. And let me warn you that it is
dangerous to copy the example of a nation whose crimes, lowering up
to heaven, were thrown down by the breath of the Almighty, burying
that nation in irrecoverable ruin!  I can to-day take up the
plaintive lament of a peeled and woe-smitten people!"

"Fellow-citizens; above your national, tumultous joy, I hear the
mournful wail of millions! Whose chains, heavy and grievous
yesterday, are, to-day, rendered more intolerable by the jubilee
shouts that reach them.  If I do forget, if I do not faithfully
remember those bleeding children of sorrow this day, "may my right
hand forget her cunning, and may my tongue cleave to the roof of my
mouth!" To forget them, to pass lightly over their wrongs, and to
chime in with the popular theme, would be treason most scandalous and
shocking, and would make me a reproach before God and the world.  My
subject, then fellow-citizens, is AMERICAN SLAVERY.  I shall see,
this day, and its popular characteristics, from the slave's point of
view.  Standing, there, identified with the American bondman, making
his wrongs mine, I do not hesitate to declare, with all my soul, that
the character and conduct of this nation never looked blacker to me
than on this 4th of July!  Whether we turn to the declarations of the
past, or to the professions of the present, the conduct of the nation
seems equally hideous and revolting.  America is false to the past,
false to the present, and solemnly binds herself to be false to the
future.  Standing with God and the crushed and bleeding slave on this
occasion, I will, in the name of humanity which is outraged, in the
name of liberty which is fettered, in the name of the constitution
and the Bible, which are disregarded and trampled upon, dare to call
in question and to denounce, with all the emphasis I can command,
everything that serves to perpetuate slavery-the great sin and shame
of America!  "I will not equivocate; I will not excuse;" I will use
the severest language I can command; and yet not one word shall
escape me that any man, whose judgement is not blinded by prejudice,
or who is not at heart a slaveholder, shall not confess to be fight
and just"

"What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July?  I answer: a day
that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross
injustice and cruelly to which he is the constant victim.  To him,
your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license;
your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing
are empty and heartless; your denunciations of tyrants, brass fronted
impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your
prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your
religious parade, and solemnity, are, to him, mere bombast, fraud,
deception, impiety, and hypocrisy a thin veil to cover up crimes
which would disgrace a nation of savages.  There is not a nation on
the earth guilty of practices, more shocking and bloody, than are the
people of these United States, at this very hour.

Go where you may, search where you will, roam through all the
monarchies and despotisms of the old world, travel through South
America, search out every abuse, and when you have found the last,
lay your facts by the side of the everyday practices of this nation,
and you will say with me, that, for revolting barbarity and shameless
hypocrisy, America reigns without a rival."

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[CTRL] Springmeier- Making Sense Of Solstice Deaths

[William Shannon]

http://www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol25/



MAKING SENSE OF SOLSTICE DEATHS



By Fritz Springmeier





Summer Solstice brought us headlines from the CIA controlled ABC Houston
channel named ABC13 about a shocking murder (or sacrifice?) of 5 children by
their mother Andrea Pia Yates.

On June 20, 2001, a thin woman with glasses and long brown hair at the
tree-filled 900 block of Beachcomber Lane, in Clear Lake, TX called the
Houston police to her nice upper middle class Spanish-style home so that she
could show them that she had just murdered her five children. Three years
previous to this almost to the day (June18, 1999), this same mother had
attempted suicide with an overdose. She was an ex-nurse and a mother in her
late 30_s who home-schooled her children and took them on excursions. Her
children were named after major biblical figures Mary (mother of Jesus),
Noah, John, Paul and Luke.

Andrea's husband Russell worked nearby at NASA's Johnson Space Center. He
rushed home, but was blocked by police from going into his home. Soon
psychologists from NASA arrived to deal with the father of the dead children.

Andrea's mother A.D. Kennedy and her brother Pat Kennedy are supportive of
her after her arrest. Her husband is supportive of her too. He is quoted as
saying while pointing to Andrea's picture, "The woman here is not the woman
who killed my children." The explanation for this bizarre new moon crime is
that she was suffering from postpartum depression.

Flowers or donations for the memorial can be dropped off at 907 El Dorado,
Clear Lake Flowers. Oh, compassionate Heavenly Father, there are many who
mourn and hurt from this difficult event, receive the pain and confusion of
those who need help. Help us to gain some wisdom from this sad event.

The world is again confronted with a bizarre tragedy, this time a loving
peaceful mother killing her sweet children. The neighbors are shocked. Her
family is shocked. They are quoted as continuing to say that Andrea is a
beautiful person. The world is shocked. And we are told that this is the
result of postpartum depression. Her lawyer is rumored to want to protect her
using "insanity" as a defense. He stated on a show that Andrea thought her
neighbor was an alien.

The only one who seems to be saying "I told you so" is a well known occult
psychic and Cabalist named Sollog. Sollog has been predicting "lines of
tragedy". His earlier line of tragedy was locations just south of the 35th
degree of latitude, and included the school stabbings near Osaka, Japan, the
disco bombing in Tel Aviv, and the multiple school shootings in San Diego, CA.

His more recent line of tragedy was to be tragedies just south of the 30th
degree of latitude, and in line with this prediction have come the bizarre
mass murder of the Nepalese royal family in Katmandu, Dale Earnhardt's death
at Daytona Beach, FL, the 31 Allison, TX flood victims, and now the 5 child
murders in Clear Lake. Of course, skeptics says Sollog's repeatedly accurate
predictions are an unlucky coincidence. Viewers of Fritz Lang's diabolical
1960 German movie "1,000 Eyes of Dr. Mabuse" might conclude that there might
be something more sinister behind the accuracy of Sollog's predictions. It is
fair to ask, is there something more sinister to the murder of these
children? Certainly, the police in Lang's movie did when confronted with
bizarre murders.

The deaths of these five children certainly fits in well with several agendas
that are currently being openly pushed by Big Brother. There are going to be
two conflicting theories arising. One is that our governing authorities would
never be behind something so heinous. The other is that the murder of these
children fits in perfectly with Big Brother's campaign to enact current
legislation that would give states custody of the majority of children within
their jurisdictions. There have been a flood of stories recently that raise
serious questions as to whether any parents are fit to raise their own
children.

Fine, even if we are to admit that the murder helps the current campaign to
strip parents of their legal rights in regards to children, that doesn't mean
that our government would have the means to be involved in this murder. The
idea of our government being involved seems far-fetched to those who haven't
kept up with learning about the mind-control capabilities of our government.

However, for those who have studied the mind-control of our government
(especially what is documented and exposed in the three books that this
reporter has written), they will see that the murder of five children by a
mother is a classic example of mind-control. All the clues point to an
occult-tainted mind-controlled murder. NASA is involved in mind-control. The
behavior of the mother smacks of mind-control. Her confession was described
as 'zombie-like'.

There have certainly been Yates that have been prominent in the occult world.
Francis A. Yates is an occult authority. Giles Fonda Yates

[CTRL] The Secret GOP War On Tom Daschle

[William Shannon]

http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2001/07/mooney-c-07-02.html



The Secret War on Tom Daschle 
7.2.01
by Chris Mooney


The producers who brought you Doggygate and the brouhaha over Al Gore's 
alleged claim that he invented the Internet are at work on a brand new 
project: the destruction of Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle. 

Comments from a recent discussion thread on the right wing website 
FreeRepublic.com demonstrate the budding smear efforts: "Please help me flesh 
out various scandals that Daschle is involved in," writes one contributor. 
"There is something about his wife's employment I think that might be a 
conflict of interest. Maybe not," suggests another. (Daschle's wife, Linda, 
is a transportation lobbyist for the firm Baker, Donelson, Bearman & 
Caldwell.) 

The website Spinsanity.com, which tracks and critiques political rhetoric, 
has been monitoring Daschle-bashing, recently noting a Washington Times 
article that mentions a "coordinated" attack on the senator by right-wingers. 
Thanks in part to Spinsanity, it's possible to trace many of the key motifs 
and rhetorical techniques in this spin war -- a project that reveals striking 
continuities across a range of different conservative media outlets. 

Here is a short list of some burgeoning Daschle-bashing techniques:

 "Puff Daschle" 

This is Rush Limbaugh's moniker for the South Dakota senator; Limbaugh, wit 
that he is, also came up with "'Little Dick' Gephardt." From a spin 
perspective, Limbaugh's coinage is brilliant, equating Daschle with "Puff 
Daddy," the singer recently acquitted on weapons charges relating to a 1999 
nightclub shooting. Not surprisingly considering its ad hominem nature, this 
nickname doesn't appear to have made its way into the mainstream media. But 
below the surface, on right wing websites like FreeRepublic and Newsmax.com, 
"Puff Daschle" has become a standard way of referring to the Senate majority 
leader -- not unlike "Slick Willy" as a nickname for Bill Clinton, or the 
venomous "Hillabitch" for Hillary Clinton. 

Mt. Rushmore: Tom Daschle's Buddhist Temple 

But the right doesn't just have nicknames for Daschle; it has scandal 
narratives-in-progress, stories that can be made out to seem shady when told 
the right way -- thus giving the impression that the Senate majority leader 
has an inclination for dirty dealings. So far, the most prominent of these 
involves a 1997 trip to the top of Mt. Rushmore for roughly 100 Daschle 
friends, supporters and campaign contributors. Regular tourists aren't 
allowed to make the climb, but the park's superintendent escorted Daschle's 
gang -- suggesting a special favor for donors. 

In 1997 The Washington Post ran a story on the affair, and the paper's 
editorial page rebuked Daschle, though it also observed that "As such things 
go, the Daschle event may not have been any worse than the many similar 
festivities put on by his colleagues to raise money from people who want 
their ear." And then, at least for the moment, that was it for Rushmore-Gate. 
But on NBC's Meet the Press last May, shortly after Jim Jeffords' defection 
from the Republican Party, Tim Russert asked Daschle about the trip. He 
responded, "Well, I haven't done it since. And I'm disappointed that it was 
interpreted [as a reward for donors]. But to avoid interpretation, you're 
right. I've made mistakes. I admit them. I'll go on and try not to make them 
again." 

This admission wasn't enough for the National Review Online, however. On June 
1st, the site posted an anonymous note titled "Daschle's Rushmore Problem," 
which began: "Did Tom Daschle lie to Tim Russert on Meet the Press last 
Sunday? It certainly looks that way." The short article seized on Daschle's 
comment to Russert that "You can go to the top of Mt. Rushmore regularly. 
People do that almost every week. I'm sure they're doing it today." According 
to both The Washington Post and the National Review Online, this is not 
actually the case. Whether Daschle was lying to Russert about it is another 
matter, and the National Review Online's commentary doesn't come within miles 
of proving it. 

Tom Daschle Wants to Poison Your Children 

As early as last April, when Tom Daschle was the most visible elected 
Democrat but not yet Senate majority leader, Rush Limbaugh and the National 
Review's Rich Lowry also hit on another attack strategy. Last October, they 
noted, Daschle joined 18 other Democratic senators in voting to delay the 
Environmental Protection Agency's implementation of Clinton's proposed rules 
lowering arsenic levels in drinking water. But when the Bush administration 
suggested doing basically the same thing, Daschle upbraided the president. 

It's certainly fair game to point out this contradiction. But the way Rich 
Lowry highlighted Daschle's re-positioning on arsenic was designed for 
maximum smear-effect: His National Review Online article was titled 
"Daschle's Love Affair With Arsenic," and s

[CTRL] Menwith Hill Security Easily Breeched...

[William Shannon]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,516563,00.html



Dogged defence is no match for walking missiles 

Greenpeace stroll onto base that is vital link in £100bn star wars system

 

John Vidal at RAF Menwith Hill
Wednesday July 4, 2001
The Guardian 

When you plan for months to invade the US base with the world's most 
sophisticated communications system, capable of intercepting and monitoring 
up to 2m emails and phone calls an hour, you expect to be apprehended before 
you even get there. 

When you actually launch a pre-emptive strike on the base which could shortly 
become the eyes and ears of the proposed $100bn star wars system, you expect 
more than two men and a dog guarding the front door. 

In fact the dog was sleepy and only turned up about 20 minutes after more 
than 120 volunteers and staff members of Greenpeace UK arrived at RAF Menwith 
Hill, near Harrogate, at precisely 5.15am yesterday morning. 

The military policeman in his gate house blinked as the first bus arrived, 
followed by a van full of fancy dress, aluminium ladders and equipment. But 
he only reached for his phone when 20 people breezed past him to the theme 
tune from Mission: Impossible. 

More followed. Within three minutes, 30 walking missiles and others were 
running around the base. Three guards and a colleague waved their arms and 
held a few activists. 

As 80 more activists easily scaled the maximum security razor wire, the first 
group was running down First Avenue, past Menwith Hill's chapel and the 
pretty red-painted bungalows, towards the 20,000 gallon water tower. 

Not a dog barked or a siren wailed. Crows wheeled overhead and a skylark 
sang. "It's surreal", said one Lancashire-based missile to another. "This is 
easier than getting into a public library. Call this security? This is a 
laugh." 

The water tower team, having reached the top of the tower and waved their 
flags, waited. And waited. Nothing happened. 

Down below, one "missile" was wandering around lost and had to be rescued. 

Jo, from Norwich decided to put Greenpeace leaflets through letter boxes. A 
GI opened his front door 50 yards away. "I'll approach him slowly. We don't 
want to frighten him", she said. "Hello, good morning!" she called cheerily, 
but he went back indoors. 

A jogger came past. "Ma'am, do you know you are being invaded?" she was 
asked. She didn't. 

We wander around in the dawn mists. Nice place, Menwith Hill, even if it 
appears on no official maps. Mostly it is very ordinary. The mysteriously 
named Building 19 is, disappointingly, no more than a child development 
centre. 

But 500 yards away, behind more security fences, are the 37 white "radomes" , 
or golf balls, which look like button mushrooms and hide sophisticated radar 
systems which can spot missiles coming from thousands of miles away. 

New on the base, a little whiter, are two satellite-linked infrared systems 
designed to track missile launches around the world. These, critics say, are 
the first step to the US militarisation of space, or Star Wars. 

If Britain agrees, Menwith Hill will become the front line in President 
George Bush's missile defence system, which will act as an offensive shield 
for the US. 

"Without Britain, it cannot happen," said Steven Tindale, the former CND 
activist who now heads Greenpeace UK. 

"But the British government has muzzled debate on the subject. Mr Blair is 
hiding behind the technicality that the US has not made a formal request to 
Britain. It's pathetically craven." 

Greenpeace is convinced that Star Wars will speed up a new arms race. For 
once, it may have a sizeable chunk of the British and European political 
establishment on its side. 

Many Labour ministers and senior military commanders are known to be 
sceptical about the project and 235 MPs, mostly Labour, have signed an early 
day motion condemning it. Feeling also runs high in Denmark and Germany. 

Meanwhile half a mile away, two more Greenpeace teams of about 45 each had 
dashed across 400 metres of open ground. In five minutes one group of 20 had 
got over the second fence and was scaling the third, the last line of defence 
before the radomes and underground bunkers where the surveillance is thought 
to take place. 

Five got over and ran for the radomes. The second group headed for a low 
building and got on its roof. "It was very tempting to to jump through the 
domes," Paul, a protester, said. "They are made of fabric." 

Finally the base woke up, with dozens of alarms going off from every corner. 
Out came the the US military, without guns but steamed up. One GI went 
ballistic, screaming and shaking ladders as the activists climbed. A British 
military policeman took out a gun but put it back. 

However, most were calm, according to the Greenpeace volunteers. "We're here 
to protect you lot" said one GI. 

"They wanted to know if we were male or female missiles. Some took our 
invasion a bit personally, but they were mostly calm," s

[CTRL] Straw condemns riot at Cyprus base

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RIOT AT BRITISH ARMY BASE ON CYPRUS
An attack on a British military base in Cyprus was today condemned as
"completely unacceptable" by the British foreign secretary, Jack
Straw. British soldiers and military police clashed with angry
protesters who had stormed the Akrotiri base last night, setting fire
to vehicles and destroying equipment. Over 40 police officers and 29
Cypriot nationals are reported to have been injured in the incident.
The trouble was sparked by a demonstration against the construction
of new communication antennae in an environmentally sensitive area.

Full story - Guardian Unlimited
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,516651,00.html)
The issue explained: Cyprus - Guardian Unlimited
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/theissues/article/0,6512,516724,00.html)

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[CTRL] Spy base invaded again

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MENWITH HILL PROTESTS CONTINUE FOR SECOND DAY
Protests against the US's proposed stars war system continued for the
second day today, as six further Greenpeace activists infiltrated the
high-security Menwith Hill spy base. Around 20 broke in this morning
but most were captured and ejected. Those who evaded the police
climbed up high masts, some up to 60ft high, and joined a lone
survivor from yesterday's demonstration. The Ministry of Defence has
refused to comment on the ease with which large numbers of Greenpeace
activists entered the base.

Full story - Guardian Unlimited
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,516776,00.html)
Interactive guide: National missile defence - Guardian Unlimited
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/bush/flash/0,7365,434805,00.html)
Campaign: Close Menwith Hill - CND Yorkshire
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[CTRL] DIRT Software- Big Brother And Your Computer

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http://cryptome.org/DIRT-bags.htm



THE DIRT ON BIG BROTHER
HE CAN USE YOUR NET SERVICE TO SPY ON YOU 

Spies can bust into your computer without leaving their office. 

By Alex Roslin 

NOW | JUN 8 – JUL 4, 2001 | VOL. 20 NO. 43 

Is your computer watching you? The spectre of Big Brother just got a giant 
step closer thanks to a controversial piece of software called DIRT. 

Sold only to police, military and intelligence agencies, DIRT is causing a 
small furor in civil liberties circles. It offers government operatives a 
powerful tool to break into your home through the Internet and read 
everything on your computer, without ever leaving their offices. 

The brainchild of former NYPD cop Frank Jones, DIRT stands for Data 
Interception by Remote Transmission. Depending on the model, it reportedly 
costs anywhere from a few thousand dollars to over $200,000. 

Even a well-secured computer is vulnerable. The software is said to be 
powerful enough to penetrate many common security tools, including firewalls. 
No anti-virus program on the market can detect it. 

Reached at his company, New York-based Codex Data Systems, Jones was 
tight-lipped about the software's capabilities and which governments he's 
sold it to, calling that "proprietary information." 

An ad for DIRT says even the technically challenged can use it to break into 
a computer halfway around the globe. "Imagine being able to remotely monitor 
any PC in the world any time you want," says the ad, posted earlier this 
month on the intelligence Web site cryptome.org. "Suppose you could read 
every keystroke… access and retrieve any file from the hard drive... No more 
secrets..." 

No police or intelligence agency in Canada or the U.S. has acknowledged that 
it hacks. In fact, computer hacking by governments is one of the most 
sensitive and highly classified government secrets anywhere in the world. 

It goes by innocent-sounding terms like "computer network exploitation" and 
"information operations." 

But even military and intelligence officials acknowledge hacking is highly 
dubious in the eyes of both domestic and international law. 

"If you get caught mapping out the critical infrastructure of a power grid, 
people might view it as an act of war," said one U.S. intelligence expert who 
advises the Pentagon on information operations. 

A renowned U.S. computer scientist who has testified before Congress and 
advised the U.S. government on computer security tells NOW that hacking by 
western military and intelligence services is an explosive issue. 

"There are a lot of folks here who don't want to admit this is going on," he 
says, adding a warning: "You're on the tip of the iceberg here. You want to 
be a little bit careful."

Canadian and U.S. police, for their part, are also interested in hacking to 
get evidence for criminal cases. But here too, the legalities are extremely 
questionable. 

"There is no case law on it at all," says RCMP Inspector Peter McAughley, 
head of the force's high-tech crime forensics unit. Yet he says that with a 
little "tweaking," existing legislation in Canada does allow cops to hack for 
evidence. "If it's an investigative avenue and it can be done legally, it's 
something else we can throw in the tool box." 

Already, Australia and New Zealand have adopted legislation to allow security 
agencies to hack into citizens' computers and alter data to hide traces of 
intrusions. 

All this has civil libertarians aghast. "These are the worst kinds of 
searches," says Barry Steinhardt, associate director of the American Civil 
Liberties Union. "We do not think intelligence agencies or law enforcement 
should be engaging in these black bag operations, especially without close 
supervision from courts." 

Canadian interest in hacking technology was revealed during a New York trial 
in which DIRT vendor Frank Jones was charged with possession and distribution 
of illegal wiretap equipment. Jones was convicted of a single count of 
possessing illegal bugs, and sentenced in 1999 to 300 hours of community 
service and five years of probation. 

The court file includes letters from Jones's attorney, seeking permission for 
Jones to travel to Canada three times during the trial to meet RCMP, local 
and regional police, Interpol, Canadian government and military officials to 
discuss software he had developed. 

Michael Richardson, a former Canadian intelligence officer who was the 
Canadian distributor for DIRT at the time, tells NOW the meetings were 
arranged to discuss DIRT. 

Richardson says he quit Codex after he learned of Jones's criminal conviction 
and that Jones had secretly been selling DIRT to governments like Peru and 
South Africa that have lax laws covering the use of evidence in court. 

"It's a very dangerous product. It can take control of a machine and download 
what's on it," says Richardson. 

Eric Schneider, the computer programmer who wrote DIRT, also doesn't have 
much nice to say about Jones.

[CTRL] Pentagon Role in Africa May End

[radman]

-Caveat Lector-

Pentagon Role in Africa May End

Training Program Put Under Review

  By Douglas Farah
  Washington Post Foreign Service
  Tuesday, July 3, 2001; Page A16

  BUNDASE TRAINING CAMP, Ghana -- U.S. Special Forces
  trainers strode up and down the firing line here one
  recent morning, barking instructions and encouragement
  as Ghanaian troops struggled to get a feel for the new
  American-supplied M-60 machine guns they will take
  with them to nearby Sierra Leone on a U.N.
  peacekeeping mission.

  Earlier in the morning, some of the 100 Americans from
  the 3rd Special Forces Group trained the Ghanaians on
  M-16 rifles. During the 10-week training program, the
  troops also will learn to use mortars and
  sophisticated communications equipment.

  "We are trying to make sure these people will operate
  under live fire," Lt. Col. Jay Glover said as he sat
  in the camp's U.S.-style mess tent built for the
  training. "If they can't, people will get killed when
  they turn around and go into combat."

  Glover and his team are part of Operation Focus
  Relief, the most visible and costly of the myriad
  programs the Pentagon has been conducting in 22
  countries of sub-Saharan Africa. They include training
  elite battalions like this one for peacekeeping
  duties, readying other soldiers for disaster relief,
  AIDS prevention, and other smaller programs.

  But many of the programs, which together cost $130
  million a year, may be short-lived. Most were
  initiated by former president Bill Clinton as a
  compromise between sending U.S. troops into war-torn
  African countries and doing nothing. They are now
  under review by the Bush administration, which is
  divided over what military commitments to make on this
  continent.

  The White House must assess whether the programs are
  "misguided, inadequately resourced or simply need more
  time to bear fruition," according to a working paper
  published last month co-written by Jendayi E. Frazer,
  director of African affairs at the National Security
  Council. Despite the programs, the paper said, "there
  was no noticeable change in any of Africa's wars."

  During a visit to Africa last month, Secretary of
  State Colin L. Powell acknowledged that he disagrees
  with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld over funding
  military missions here.

  The United States, Powell said, should remain
  committed to equipping and training African
  peacekeepers, but Rumsfeld "is always looking for
  opportunities to back off on some of the overseas
  commitments we have. It is just trying to find the
  right balance between getting too committed and not
  getting committed enough."

  So far, two 800-man Nigerian battalions have been
  trained, equipped and deployed to Sierra Leone under
  the $90 million Focus Relief program. The Ghanaian
  battalion, along with one from Senegal and three from
  Nigeria, are to be deployed by the end of the year.

  The program was rushed into existence last year after
  the rebel Revolutionary United Front in Sierra Leone
  took 500 U.N. peacekeepers hostage. With the U.N.
  operation in disarray and Britain, the former colonial
  power there, rushing in troops, Clinton was under
  pressure to do something to help fight a rebel force
  renowned for hacking off the arms and legs of women
  and children.

  He was unwilling to commit troops and opted instead to
  provide training and equipment for seven West African
  battalions to step into the breach. "Certainly the
  motivation was to get troops on the ground that were
  not U.S. troops," said a senior Pentagon official.

  According to U.N. sources and observers in Sierra
  Leone, the two Nigerian battalions are a marked
  improvement over other African forces deployed there,
  but have not yet faced any serious challenges in
  combat.

  A broader U.S. program is the $20 million-a-year
  African Crisis Response Initiative, started in 1996 to
  create a pan-African force for peacekeeping and
  disaster relief. U.S. Special Forces provide training,
  uniforms and communications equipment but no weapons.

  With State Department funding, the ACRI program has
  trained 8,000 troops since 1997, and plans to train a
  total of 12,000, U.S. officials said.

  It began when the Clinton administration feared
  Burundi would implode on the heels of the 1994 Rwanda
  genocide crisis. A U.S. official familiar with the
  program said it was initially "ill thought-out and
  rushed" through the policy-approval process.

  None of Africa's major armies took part, either
  because they declined or could not qualify because of
  rules that limited participation to countries with
  democratic governments. Nigeria was initially
  ineligible and later chose, along with South Africa,
  not to participate. Uganda, Ethiopia and Ivory Coast
  all joined but were suspended because of military
  coups, political unrest or involvement in wars. Only
  smaller countries such as Benin, M

[CTRL] Israel Expands Hit List

[William Shannon]

http://www3.haaretz.co.il/eng/scripts/article.asp?mador=14&datee=7/4/01&
id=123394



Kitchen cabinet okays expansion of liquidation list

IDF warns of rise in violence shortly

By Amos Harel and Aluf Benn
Ha'aretz Correspondents

The IDF will from now on be given a broader license to liquidate Palestinian
terrorists, the kitchen cabinet decided yesterday.

Formerly, the IDF was only permitted to assassinate "ticking bombs," meaning
terrorists actually en route to commit a major attack. The new guidelines
allow it to act against known terrorists even if they are not on the verge of
committing a major attack. A security source explained: "In places where we
have asked the Palestinian Authority to work to foil attacks and it is not
doing so, we will have to act in its stead."

In other respects, however, the kitchen cabinet agreed to continue the policy
of restraint.

A dispute erupted on this subject between Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and
Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, with the former advocating more vigorous
action against the Palestinian Authority in response to Monday's violence -
the worst in a month - and Peres arguing that "even if we need to do
something, this is not the time."

But in the end, Peres won out: The cabinet agreed that Israel will continue
to refrain from striking at official PA targets, and that the IDF will in the
main continue to be limited to "low-profile" actions that do not attract wide
media coverage. In addition, the relatively strict rules of engagement
instituted after the cease-fire was declared will remain in force.

However, the cabinet adopted Defense Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer's
recommendation that the IDF be given greater freedom to deploy its forces in
Areas B and C, under Israeli security control, and even to destroy houses
that constitute security risks in these areas. It also decided to increase
the IDF presence on roads in the territorries.

Finally, it agreed that because of the continued violence, Israel will
continue to postpone implementing some of its obligations under the
cease-fire agreement: Restrictions on Palestinian traffic, for instance, will
remain in place throughout much of the West Bank.

In addition to Sharon, Peres and Ben-Eliezer, Finance Minister Silvan Shalom
and Deputy Defense Minister Dalia Rabin-Pelosoff were present at the meeting.
All of the kitchen cabinet's decisions will be brought to the full cabinet
for approval this morning.

Meanwhile, senior IDF officers predicted yesterday that the violence in the
territories is likely to ratchet up again as of tomorrow.

The IDF believes that recent statements by Palestinian leaders are meant to
prepare the ground for a new wave of violence. For instance, the head of the
Palestinian General Intelligence Service, Amin al-Hindi, declared yesterday
that "tomorrow [i.e. today] the quiet period will end," apparently referring
to the week-long period of absolute quiet Sharon has demanded before the
start of the cooling-off period called for in the Mitchell report. Similarly,
PA Chairman Yasser Arafat charged that Israel was trying to destroy the
cease-fire through its assassination of three Islamic Jihad activists on
Sunday.

The officers told Ha'aretz that the PA continues to insist that it is
fulfilling its obligations under the cease-fire accord, completely ignoring
the fact that attacks on Israeli targets are continuing. Monday was the worst
day of violence in a month, with two Israelis killed - one in Sussya and one
in Baka al-Garbiyeh - and 27 shooting and bombing incidents, most of them in
the West Bank. Also noteworthy was the resumption of shooting attacks from
Area A, under full Palestinian control (at Psagot from El Bireh and at Mount
Ebal from Nablus). Yesterday, however, was relatively quiet.

Intelligence officers also told the kitchen cabinet yesterday that Arafat had
given a "green light" both for the recent attacks and for future attacks, for
instance, by telling his men that "this is a long-term war." According to
security sources, Arafat's Fatah movement has become increasingly involved in
attacks over the last few days.

Undersecretary of State William Burns is due to come to the region next week
in an effort to rescue the cease-fire. But Israeli officials said they were
disappointed with the most recent American effort in this direction, at the
three-way security meeting in Tel Aviv Monday night. No agreements were
achieved, and participants said the most of meeting consisted of mutual
recriminations by the Israeli and Palestinian delegates.

Security sources said that CIA officials - the American representatives at
the security meetings - seem unable to cope with the wide gap between Israeli
and Palestinian versions of events, though they seem to give somewhat more
credence to the Israeli version. Israel is also concerned by the fact that
the Americans have been downplaying the PA's failure to arrest terrorists -
an issue to which Israel attaches great importance.

On another i

[CTRL] Hitachi weaves chip into paper money

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-Caveat Lector-

 >From ZDNet,
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,s2090580,00.html

Hitachi weaves chip into paper money

3rd July 2001
by Matthew Broersma

A tiny identity chip could have massive implications for security - and also
for your privacy

Hitachi has developed a chip that could be woven into paper money to help
identify counterfeits, and which could also have wide ramifications for
identification and surveillance technologies.

The chip, called Mew, measures just 0.4mm on a side, and stores information
such as identification and security code. It includes 128 bits of read-only
memory (ROM) and RF wireless circuitry that allows it to transmit over a
distance of about 30cm. If inserted in money, a reader unit would be able to
instantly detect authentic bills.

Most identity chips are currently several millimetres on a side.

While the chip currently requires a reader unit to work, its size carries
big implications for the future of identity technology. For example, future
chips could be implanted into all paper money and be connected wirelessly to
the Internet, so that authorities would be able to monitor the movement of
all cash.

Such chips could also be embedded in other consumer products to track them
in the event of theft.

Hitachi says it is considering adding rewritable memory to the device, but
for the moment is using ROM to prevent data falsification.

The chip will begin sampling this autumn and Hitachi will begin marketing it
next spring. Mew Solutions, the venture formed by Hitachi to promote the
chip, expects sales of $145m (about £98m) by 2005.

See Chips Central for the latest on processors and the semiconductor
industry.

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[CTRL] White House Manufactures News...Proof

[William Shannon]

http://www.buzzflash.com/BuzzScripts/Buzz.dll/Content



AP RELEASES WHAT MAY BE A "CLAIRVOYANT" ACCOUNT OF CHENEY'S WHITE HOUSE 
"MORNING"

 
PLEASE NOTE: A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE ASSOCIATED PRESS TOLD BUZZFLASH THAT THE 
WASHINGTON POST GOT THE TIME WRONG FOR THE POSTING ON THE ARTICLE DISCUSSED 
BELOW, BUT IT ALSO APPEARS ON YAHOO and NEWSDAY WITH THE SAME TIME POSTING of 
1:26 EDT.
(see http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010702/pl/cheney_38.html and 
http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/washington) PERHAPS THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION 
ABOUT THE STORY, SO BUZZFLASH.COM SENT AN E-MAIL TO THE WASHINGTON,D.C., AP 
OFFICE TO CLARIFY THE ISSUE. WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET. IT MAY BE THAT THE 
STORY WAS "PRE-WRITTEN" AND ACCIDENTALLY RELEASED EARLY. ONE CAN ONLY 
SPECULATE.

July 2nd (11:00 AM), from BuzzFlash.com -- In an unbelievable indication of 
how the White House manufactures news, the AP apparently ran a story that 
detailed Dick Cheney's Monday morning activities in the White House, in the 
past tense, more than six hours before a later story indicated that he 
actually arrived at the White House. BuzzFlash was alerted to this 
inexplicable reflection of the White House spin machine by a BuzzFlash reader 
who read it a bit after midnight on Sunday.

In short, in a 1:26 am EDT release, the AP reporter Scott Lindlaw wrote: 
"After meeting with President Bush on Monday morning, Cheney was fielding 
energy questions from reporters in at least three radio interviews and 
sitting down with staff members to discuss a range of policy issues, said 
spokeswoman Juleanna Glover Weiss. "It's a typical day," she said."


(see 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010702/aponline012613_000.htm)

A Reuters story, written later, indicates that Cheney didn't allegedly arrive 
at the White House until 7:45 am. (see 
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010702/ts/bush_cheney_tests_dc_25.html)



By Scott Lindlaw
Associated Press Writer
Monday, July 2, 2001; 1:26 a.m. EDTWASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney 
is returning to work with a new heart pacemaker in his chest, promoting the 
energy strategy he assembled for the administration and attending his usual 
series of White House meetings. After meeting with President Bush on Monday 
morning, Cheney was fielding energy questions from reporters in at least 
three radio interviews and sitting down with staff members to discuss a range 
of policy issues, said spokeswoman Juleanna Glover Weiss. "It's a typical 
day," she said. 

Cheney planned no public appearances, and was not headed to Capitol Hill, she 
said. Cheney is a key contact between the administration and lawmakers, but 
Congress is in recess this week. A dual-purpose pacemaker was implanted in 
Cheney's chest in an hourlong procedure Saturday at George Washington 
University Hospital. He was home a few hours later. 

It works like any other pacemaker by assuring that his heart does not beat 
too slowly. When it detects the beat slowing below a certain level, it sends 
a mild electric charge to pace the beat at a minimum level. More 
dramatically, if the heart suddenly surges to a dangerous, high-speed beat, 
the defibrillator kicks in. It sends an electrical jolt to the lower chamber 
of the heart and causes it to slow down. Sometimes this will cause the heart 
to slow too much, and that is when the pacemaker turns on and adjusts the 
rhythm. That jolt could be jarring for Cheney, said Dr. Douglas Zipes, 
president of the American College of Cardiology and an authority on irregular 
heart rhythms who has consulted with the vice president's doctors. 

"That is something he will feel, and patients describe it anywhere from a 
giant hiccup to a mule kick in the chest," Zipes said on "Fox News Sunday." 
"With an electric shock, it contracts all of the muscles, not just the heart 
but the chest muscles, too," Zipes said. "Yes, it's recognizable." 

Cheney's personal cardiologist has said there was less than a 10 percent 
chance that the defibrillator will be needed to calm Cheney's heart. Asked 
how the device will affect Cheney's daily life, Zipes said, "Probably not at 
all." Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said he had no doubts about 
Cheney's ability to serve in his job. 

"Obviously this has been a matter that the vice president's had to contend 
with for many years," Daschle said on ABC's "This Week." "He's done it 
successfully, and I have every expectation he'll continue to do so." House 
Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., told CBS' "Face the Nation" that Cheney has 
been "very, very vigorous in carrying out his office, and I expect him to 
continue to do so." 

© Copyright 2001 The Associated Press (END OF AP STORY)

This story ran on AP throughout the early am hours, well in advance of 
Cheney's apparent 7:45 am arrival.

How in the world can the AP explain this one?

See http://www.buzzflash.com/BuzzScripts/Buzz.dll/Content for original of 
this article. 

[CTRL] U.N. Seeks Power To Tax

[William Shannon]

http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3G2O4UIOC&
live=true&tagid=IXLMS1QTICC&subheading=global%20economy



UN calls for reforms to aid
By Alan Beattie in London and Andrew Hill in New York
Published: June 28 2001 18:23GMT | Last Updated: June 29 2001 01:11GMT


A blue-ribbon United Nations panel on Thursday recommended radical reforms to
international aid and a new global carbon tax to fund development.

The high-level panel on financing for development, chaired by Ernesto
Zedillo, the former Mexican president also includes Robert Rubin, the former
US treasury secretary, and Manmohan Singh, the reformist Indian finance
minister during the early 1990s.

In a report released on Thursday, the group called for "a global council at
the highest political level", comprising selected heads of state, to address
the main challenges of globalisation.

It suggested an international tax organisation to monitor unfair tax
competition and combat money laundering.
Its proposals will form the basis of discussion for a summit on development
finance to be held in Mexico next March.
John Williamson, the project director, said the report was intended to
"inject some ideas outside the normal range of thinking".

The report backed the United Nations target for rich countries of giving 0.7
per cent of gross domestic product in aid.

It also recommended that donors stop imposing their own conditions on the use
of aid, and instead place all aid into a common pool which would be disbursed
to individual countries according to plans drawn up before donations are
made.

This could lead to reductions in aid if donor countries were not prepared to
take plans on trust, the panel said.

"But a part of ownership is the right to make mistakes," it said. "A new
relationship with Africa will never be established if donors put safety
first."

Mr Rubin's endorsement of the report - though he expressed reservations about
the practicalities of the proposed global carbon tax - may cause some
surprise among development experts, given the US's past failure to adopt the
policies the report proposes.

The US has relatively low levels of overseas aid and has traditionally tied
some of its aid to purchases from US suppliers.

Mr Rubin defended his record, saying that Congress had prevented any increase
in aid as a percentage of GDP and other countries had opposed untying aid,
even though the Clinton administration had tried to advance the issue.

The former US treasury secretary conceded that it would be a struggle to
convince the public in industrial countries that it was in their own
self-interest to increase overseas development aid.

"It may be very difficult politically but I think it's so much the right
thing to do and so much in our self-interest, that it's a struggle worth
engaging in, even if the politics is very difficult," he said.

Mr Rubin also drew attention to trade liberalisation as an important tool for
banishing poverty, pointing out that "there was nobody who disagreed with
that on the panel".

Re: [CTRL] Jacques Cousteau, Environmental Liar? (fwd)

[Damian B. Cooper]

-Caveat Lector-

At 12:42 AM 7/4/01 -0400, : "Prudence L. Kuhn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
>-Caveat Lector-
>
>In a message dated 07/03/2001 12:41:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
><< Who shall write the curriculum?  Who will implement the curriculum?  Should
> the curriculum be targeted at specific populations? >>
>
>I can see that you believe in handling society's problems by rigid rules with
>rigid enforcement--a kind of sociological Nazism.

I respectfully asked you for an explanation of your point of view.
I didn't tell you what I believed.
I didn't tell you what you should believe.
I didn't ask to be called a Nazi by you.


>  Common sense is the only curriculum needed.
>needs fulfilled.   No group of people are stupid.

If "common sense" is the only curriculum needed, then why hasn't
"common sense" long since prevailed?

Are there not population groups whose "common sense" on world
population limitation is profoundly different from yours?

Roman Catholics?  Orthodox Jews?  Mormons?  Traditionally
agricultural societies where children are wealth?


>They can learn very
>quickly when the choices are laid out for them.  Prudy

Which "they" are you talking about?  Roman Catholics?
Orthodox Jews? Mormons? Bangladeshis? Arabs? The whole world?

What is it that "they" have to learn that you think they don't already know?

Who will define the choices that will be "laid out for them"?

Who will lay out the choices for "them"? The Roman Catholic Church?
The U.N.? The IMF? The Arab League? OPEC? The Council on Foreign
Relations?

What do you propose be done to "them" if the "common sense"
that guides "their" family planning decisions does not lead to
world population control?

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[CTRL] Fwd: how.to.make.hash.txt

[Aleisha Saba]

Well it is cool and raining as we await the sun for its back to the
lake; however, I did want to forward this for the making of hash can be
very deadly if not done in a proper manner - not that anyone on list
would ever consider attempting this.

Remember many years back the Sultan in Morocco as I recall he was a
Sultan, outlawed hash and nearly had a revolution as if things were not
already bad enough..no more hash also in this Casbah..

Strange in countries where Hash was not against the law, no big deal;
the moment people are forbidden to smoke free hash and marijuana - boy
that Mafia moves in on it and plae great value.

In USA the big stuff started when it ws reported the kids were giving
the Dons a run for their money in making their own drugs, peddling pot,
etcand suddenly in Columbus a young kid who was giving them some
trouble, ws found murdered for this territory was then controlled by
Meyer Lansky's henchman an a hit man named Ralph DeLeo who murdered many
people but the Sicilian CFR Govenor, whom Clinton appointed Ambassador
to India later after he was voted out in Ohio - this man pardoned the
bum an set him free...wonder how much that cost someone.

So my son grew a little plant in his bedroom which I found out later to
be pot - I used to waer it and he thought it was funny when I would tell
him the littlei plant, was dyingguess it has to die first to be born
again pot plant.

So what barnyard alchemist wrote this one up?

Saba

Maybe this explains explosive nature of Hashand I do not mean the
corned beef kind.

%%%
%%How to make hash%%
%%%%
%%  By: Mr. Crue  %%
%%%
   The most amazing thing about hashish is the price on the black
market. An ounce of hash usually sells for anywhere between $60 and $100
(old book). I say the price is amazing because with one kilo (2.2 lbs)
of grass, a person can easily make seven or eight ounces of hash.In
other words, you
   can basicly increase your money sharply br doing this.
   ^% The process %^

   The process for extracting the essence of marijuana is a simple one,
but it requires the utmost care. You need a kilo of grass to begin with
(woohh), and a screen to sift it through.

1) A kilo of grass usually comes in a block, compressed together, so
break down the block and gently put it through the screen.

2) Remove all dirt and foreign objects, but don't take out the stems.
The seeds should also be taken out, as they are much to greasy for good
hash.

3) Now that you have seperated the kilo and sifted it, place it in a
large pot and cover with rubbing alcohol (about one and a half gallons
per kilo).

4) Now boil the mixture for about three hours. Be sure to use a hot
plate or electric stove rather than gas as alcohol is highly inflammable
and should never be exposed to a naked flame.
5) After three hours, strain liquids out of the pot, and store in a
plastic container labeled "Solution 1." Now take the mush you have left
and repeat the boiling with fresh alcohol for another three hours.

6) After two alcohol extractions, each time using fresh alcohol, follow
the same procedure, but substitue water for alcohol. The water must be
boiled at a higher temperature than the alcohol, but only for an hour.
This boiling procedure with water should be performed twice.

7) Once these procedures have been performed, strain off the liquids
again and store in another container, and label "Solution 2". Now reduce
volumes of both solutions by boiling in seperate pots, turn down the
heat as each solution begins to thicken.

8) When each solution is reasonably thickened, combine them and boil a
little more on the hot plate. At this point the solution should have the
consistency of modeling clay.

9) Now heat a cupful of terpentine, and add to the mush. Be extra
careful with the terpentine, as even the vapors are inflammable. Add 2
ozs. of pine resin and stir pot for ten minutes, under low heat.

10) Now pour mush into a baking tin, two or three inches deep, and heat
in the oven for 15 minutes at 350 degrees. After this, you should have
some really good hash but, if the hash doesn't dry up after this step,
just leave it in
the oven a few more minutes or until it dries out.

* Hash can be smoked either in a pipe or with tobbaco in a cigarette.
Traditionally, hash is smoked in a hookah or water pipe. But it's your
choice...  Have fun!
 
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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

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> Since it is mostly the leaves that people smoke, some growers ' top ' the
> flowers to send more THC to the plant's leaves.
>
> I know that this is done, but I am not sure how scientific it really is.

this is news to me- mosst growers will not do the above- why would they?
no-one smokes the leaves, unless they are new to growing. leaves from the
female (apart from the resin encrusted ones around the flowers) and
everything from the male plant is best just used for baking! you can get a
tumbler (like a stone polishing machine) and make your own hash out of them
too. topping the plant will, as nessie mentioned, incresae the amount of
flowerheads on the female plant, it will not force thc anywhere. and it is
tricky to know whether to top them or not- some strains will be bushy from
the word go and not need topping - but some do need it. one plant will only
produce a certain amount of thc- if you leave the plant to grow without
pruning you will have a lesser amount of fruit- but the fruit will be
stronger. if you top it then lots of fruit but less strong. that is a theory
anyway- not so sure that it is correct- there is contrasting evidence (that
i have seen anyway) about that argument.. so don't flame me if you read
something else somewhere! ;)



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[CTRL] Fwd: Vest in The Nation: DynCorp Drug Smuggling?

[Kris Millegan]

 
 DynCorp's Drug Problem 
 (www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=special&s=vest20010703)    FEATURE STORY | Special 
Report 
 
   DynCorp's Drug 
Problem
 
   by JASON 
VEST  
 
   Could the State Department's 
antidrug contractors in South America possibly 
be   dabbling in narcotics trafficking? A 
key part of the US's $1.3 billion contribution to   Plan 
Colombia--the scheme that will supposedly expedite the end of Colombia's 
civil   war--calls for the use of private contractors (as opposed 
to actual US military assets) to fly   airborne missions against 
both the fields that grow coca and poppy and the labs that   
process them. While some contractors, like Aviation Development Corporation 
of   Montgomery, Alabama, fly surveillance missions for the CIA, 
those that fly on retainer for   other US government agencies are 
a bit more expansive in their 
missions. 
 
   Consulting giant 
DynCorp's private pilots in the   Andes fly everything from 
fixed-wing fumigation runs   to helicopter-borne interdiction 
missions ferrying   troops into hot spots. If you take DynCorp's 
word   for it, any notion of the organization's being 
involved   in drug trafficking is ludicrous. "Whether or not 
you   believe this, we are a very ethical company," said 
a   senior DynCorp official, who insisted on being   
quoted off the record. "We take steps to make sure   the people we 
hire are ethical." 
 
   Yet the existence of a 
document that The Nation   recently obtained (under the Freedom of 
Information   Act) from the Drug Enforcement   
Administration--combined with the unwillingness of   virtually any 
US or Colombian government agency to elaborate on the 
document--has   some in Washington and elsewhere wondering if, 
like virtually every other entity charged   with fighting the drug 
war, DynCorp might have a bad apple or two in its barrel. 
According   to a monthly DEA intelligence report from last year, 
officers of Colombia's National Police   force intercepted and 
opened, on May 12, 2000, a US-bound Federal Express package   at 
Bogota's El Dorado International Airport. The parcel "contained two (2) small 
bottles of   a thick liquid" that "had the same consistency as 
motor oil." The communiqu?oes on to   report that the liquid 
substance "tested positive for heroin" and that the "alleged 
heroin   laced liquid weighed approximately 250 grams." (Freebase 
heroin, it bears noting, is   soluble in motor oil, and can 
therefore be extracted without much 
trouble.) 
 
   But perhaps the most 
intriguing piece of information in the DEA document is the 
individual   to whom it reports that the package belonged:an 
unnamed employee of DynCorp, who   was sending the parcel to the 
company's Andean operations headquarters at Patrick Air   Force 
Base, Florida. More interesting still is the reluctance of DynCorp and 
the   government to provide substantial details in 
su
 
   pport of their 
contention that this situation isn't really what it seems. According to 
DynCorp   spokeswoman Janet Wineriter,the viscous liquid that the 
Colombians tested was not, in   fact, laced with heroin; it was 
simply "oil samples of major aircraft components" that   DynCorp 
technicians are required to take and send to the US "on a periodic 
basis."   Explaining that the drug test was conducted "with 
apparently faulty equipment" that   produced "an incorrect 
reading," Wineriter could not specify what testing procedures or   
equipment were used. She identified her source for the explanation as Charlene 
A.   Wheeless, DynCorp's Vice President for Corporate 
Communications. 
 
   Unable to cite any 
source other than Wheeless ("I'm assuming when someone passes 
along   this information that it's accurate"), Wineriter told The 
Nation to call the Colombian   National Police and the State 
Department for further details. The State Department liaison   
with DynCorp did not return phone calls, and when the Colombian National Police 
in   Bogota were contacted, an official informed The Nation that 
the CNP would not comment   on the matter, referring all queries 
to the DEA. A DEA spokesman in Washington said the   matter was 
not a DEA case, and referred calls to the US Embassy in 
Bogota. 
 
   It took six days for 
the embassy to produce a terse, 143-word response to The 
Nation's   queries--a response that echoed, but did not 
mirror,DynCorp's account. The embassy did   confirm that the vials 
of oil are "routinely shipped to DynCorp facilities at Patrick AFB 
for   analysis related to proper maintenance" of aircraft, and 
confirmed that "several aircraft   motor oil samples" were 
confiscated by Colombian police who used "NARCOTEX   equipment 
[and] detected the presence of heroin in unspecified amounts." Unlike 
Dyncorp,   the embassy did not blame the test results on a false 
positive caused by faulty equipment;   what's odd is that the 
embassy has no idea what ultimately became of the seized oil. 
"The   samples seiz

[CTRL] Fwd: The Trading World of Asia and the English East India Company, 1660-1760

[Kris Millegan]

http://www.eh.net/bookreviews/library/hejeebu.shtml


Project 2001: Significant Works in Twentieth-Century Economic History
The Trading World of Asia and the English East India Company, 1660-1760

Project 2000: Significant Works in Twentieth-Century Economic History

K. N. Chaudhuri, The Trading World of Asia and the English East India
Company, 1660-1760. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1978.

Review essay by Santhi Hejeebu, Department of Economics, University of Iowa.

Asia in the Making of the K. N. Chaudhuri's East India Company, 1660-1760

The Trading World of Asia and the English East India Company reveals the
monumental importance a single, long-lived organization can have on world
history. Between 1600 and 1858 the East India Company operated mostly as a
commercial enterprise, but in its last century it also became a territorial
ruler. Chaudhuri's book covers the long era of the Company's commercial
maturity, 1660-1760. The East India Company's goals were simple: buy low in
the East and sell high in the West. At its most basic level the Company was
a great shipping concern that rented its fleets and owned its cargos of
pepper, textiles, coffee, and tea. The Company straddled the major trading
centers of Asia and the British capital, bringing together the talents of
artisan-cultivators and the tastes of final consumers.

Mainstream economic history is still coming to grips with the importance of
Asia and the history of economic growth outside of European frames of
references. Through the lens of a single organization one sees the effects
of monetary expansion (American silver) on trade flows and the development
of bureaucratic multinational machinery. One also observes the unfolding of
colonial conquest and the peculiar results that emerge when market power is
wedded with political power. The Honourable Company has beguiled writers
since the eighteenth century and the secondary literature alone would
constitute a considerable library. But no future investigator of the East
India Company or its complicated legacy will be able to progress far without
engaging Chaudhuri's "magisterial" (Raychaudhuri 1980, 433) Trading World of
Asia.

Chaudhuri was the first to analyze the Company as a principally commercial
enterprise. He first trained as a classicist and commands Sanskrit, Latin,
and Greek, plus four European and at least two South Asian languages. His
linguistic prowess made accessible to him the records of all the major
European groups who traded with South Asia. In shifting to the early modern
period, Chaudhuri displayed his distinct mathematical bent and brought a new
formalism to the topic.

Trading World of Asia places Chaudhuri in the tradition of W.R. Scott
(1910), the distinguished analyst of English chartered companies of the
seventeenth century (1). It has been said that Chaudhuri did for the East
India Company what Kristoff Glamann did for the Dutch East India Company
(VOC), Ralph Davies for the Royal African Company, and E.E. Rich for the
Hudson's Bay Company -- that he performed the role of Company historian,
defender and critic. Chaudhuri's authority, like those of the other Company
historians, rests on his command of the source material. The sheer magnitude
of the East India Company materials makes its comprehensive history
extraordinarily difficult to achieve. Furthermore Chaudhuri brings to the
subject an intimate knowledge of the regions in which the trade goods were
acquired. He understood his Asian input markets -- their language, history,
and customs -- better than historians of other chartered companies
understood their overseas markets. His analytic approach, his enormous
devotion to the sources, and his understanding of the very different
societies joined by trade make the Trading World of Asia a most remarkable
achievement.

The book's objectives are threefold: 1. to reconstruct "the Company's own
history for the period from 1660-1760" 2. to analyze "the economic life of
those countries in Asia where the Company had established trading relations"
and 3. "to discover through the records and the activities of the East India
Company the general problems of long-distance trade in pre-Industrial
Revolution societies" (p. xv-xvi).

As Company history, Trading World of Asia provided a fresh perspective. In
contrast to earlier treatments that emphasized the Company's role as a
vehicle for British imperial aims (2), Trading World of Asia gazed
unflinchingly at the structure of the Company's organization and its
decision-making process -- at home and abroad. Using a systems analysis
approach, Chaudhuri tells how the firm worked. Tasks were divided among
seven committees that reported to the Court of Directors. The Court was made
up of 24 directors who were elected annually by the General Court of
Proprietors. He explains the specialized duties of the committees in London
and the Presidency-factory system in place across Asia.

For each institutional unit within the firm, C

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

[Kris Millegan]

-Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 7/3/01 10:27:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from
>hemp
>
>fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you
>high no matter what
>
>the growing conditions.

 Again if you are speaking of truth as an absolute, this is not true. Again
there is only one genus and that is cannabis with two distinct species. The
plant has been around humankind so much that there are no wild varieties and
the plants DNA has been modified by the relationship. The plant grows in male
and female separate plants, yes plants may exhibit both sexes also. And even
in the wild, pollination may take place from other variants and increase and
change the plant dramatically. Also like I have said there ARE age-old
growing, pruning and other newer technological innovations that allow one to
increase THC production.

Hemp and cannibas are the same plant. And yes one may get a Great Dane from a
Chihuahua, 'twould be painful and unlikely but not impossible.  It's called
zoology.

Om
K

PS. It is still legal (it may be unwise) to grow hemp for fiber the laws
against are unconstitutional and are held in place by reticentia and "colour
of law".

There is no legislative jurisdiction for prohibitory  possesional statues.
Marijuana is a plant given
to humankind by Nature's God. There is no legislative jurisdiction concerning
a personal relationship with one of nature's plants. Marijuana may be
regulated. Marijuana may be excise taxed. Marijuana prohibitory laws are void
'ab initio'.

To make alcohol illegal, which takes a manufacturing process, it took a
constitutional amendment to the US Constitution.

Om
K
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
All My Relations.
Omnia Bona Bonis,
Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
Amen.
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[CTRL] MiamaNewTimes: On "The Drudge Retort"

[MIKE SPITZER]

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Miami New Times
June 28, 2001, Thursday

The Drudge Retort


Democrats hate him. Journalists scorn him. Most Americans ignore him. Which
is fine with Matt Drudge. He's taking it to the bank.

BYLINE: Brett Sokol


Miami Beach appears to be treating Matt Drudge well. The man who fearfully
barricaded himself inside his Hollywood, California, apartment for five
days as his Drudge Report Website helped unleash the Monica Lewinsky affair
upon the world hardly looks like a reclusive shut-in. Instead 34-year-old
Drudge, as he enters Nirvana, a South Beach Indian restaurant, appears tan,
rested, and just a hair short of buff. His trademark hard-boiled fashion
affectations, which nodded to Twenties gossip reporter Walter Winchell --
vintage fedora, button-down shirt, loosened tie -- have been replaced by a
faded T-shirt, a Guatemalan peasant-chic necklace, shorts, and sneakers. He
still spends the bulk of his day hunched in front of his computer screen,
surfing newspaper sites and wire services, sifting through thousands of
e-mails. But now these online sessions are broken up by frequent dips in
the Atlantic Ocean -- just steps from the $352,000 high-rise Beach condo he
rents."I've been avoiding you," he says with a mischievous smirk, referring
to the previous two weeks' worth of unanswered phone calls and e-mail
requests for an interview. Settling in at a corner table, he remains wary.

After a few questions about his new life in Miami Beach, he begins wagging
his finger sternly: "I know your angle. I can see where you're going with
this. Drudge the conservative rebel'; the conservative who's not really
that conservative.'"


He continues sharply: "That's not true. I am a conservative. I'm very much
pro-life. If you go down the list of what makes up a conservative, I'm
there almost all the way. So just because I like Junior Vasquez doesn't
mean I can't believe this country was built on life, not on a death
culture."

Hold on. Junior Vasquez? Junior Vasquez, the reigning DJ king of gay
circuit parties?

"Oh yeah, last year Vasquez did some of his best stuff ever," Drudge
enthuses, launching into an informed rundown of house music's leading
lights, praising Peter Rauhoffer and Hex Hector but deeming a recent
all-night set from Danny Tenaglia at Club Space "a bit overrated." He's
even more displeased with Thunderpuss, the duo who have moved from sweaty
club faves such as "If It Don't Fit, Don't Force It" and the less oblique
"Fuck Me Harder" to remixing chart hits from the likes of Madonna and
Enrique Iglesias. "Thunderpuss is gone, completely finished," he declares.
"Their past three or four records have been a debacle."

So meet Matt Drudge, staunch conservative, self-described soldier in the
fight against the louche Clintonistas, passionate devotee of circuit house,
and -- he notes with his spoon poised in the air -- a big fan of Nirvana's
mulligatawny soup."This is all you're gonna get," Drudge admonishes New
Times photographer Steve Satterwhite, instructing him to snap only head
shots. It's nothing personal, he explains from behind a pair of dark
sunglasses, posing inside his 27th-floor apartment as a breathtaking view
of the Atlantic unfolds through the floor-to-ceiling windows around him. "I
just feel really left alone in Miami," he says, which is the way he'd like
to keep it. So no unmasked eyes, no identifying full-body photos, and
definitely no mentioning his exact street address. Drudge's apartment emits
the vibe of a bachelor stockbroker's pad, someone with plenty of money but
little free time to bask in it. The living room is largely empty and
undecorated except for a massive television set. Personal effects are few:
a Larry King videotape, a boom box for listening to tapes of talk-radio
prankster Phil Hendrie, and scattered copies of his own best-selling book,
Drudge Manifesto. Despite having lived here for two years, unpacked moving
boxes still sit stacked against a wall.

Initial speculation surrounding Drudge's move to Miami had him covering his
assets. Looming large was a $30 million libel lawsuit brought by Clinton
White House aide Sidney Blumenthal after Drudge posted on his Website
allegations that Blumenthal "has a spousal-abuse past that has been
effectively covered up."

A Florida law exempts one's home from most legal judgments or bankruptcy
settlements -- the apparent lure for fellow California refugee O.J.
Simpson.
But Drudge insists (and Miami-Dade County records confirm) that he owns no
property beyond the Mustang convertible that has replaced his old Geo
Metro. Forget about Blumenthal, says Drudge. "It was the tax-free zone --
there's no state income tax here. I started making seven digits last year,
and my $600-a-month apartment would end up costing me $90,000 in California
if I would've stayed. It didn't make any sense to pay nine percent income
tax. To then have blackouts on top of it is ridiculous!"

Besides, the lawsuit was settled in May, with Blumenthal not only 

[CTRL] Rediscovering Independence Day

[The Extremist]

-Caveat Lector-

Rediscovering Independence Day
http://www.afa.net/church/rjr070401.asp
Rev. R. J. Rooney Senior Pastor, Verona (MS) UMC July 4, 2001

Every year around Independence Day I pull out many of my old college texts
pertaining to the American Revolution just to keep the facts fresh in my
mind. With all the lamenting and wailing the humanists and atheists and
religious pluralists do every time we have a national holiday (like the
Fourth of July, Thanksgiving, and Christmas) I want to make sure that I
remember what the facts really are.

Despite their best efforts to revise and rewrite American history
(everybody was a Deist and everyone came to America to escape religion)
there is a pleasant revival of interest in American history. As a matter of
fact it may be because of their ceaseless efforts to change history that
millions of Americans are rediscovering our heritage as a Christian nation.

A Christian nation. That is the phrase that drives the liberals mad. That
is the concept that infuriates them all. It is infuriating because it is true.

Primary source documents will simply not allow humanists or atheists to
declare with any kind of intellectual integrity that our Founding Fathers
were either unreligious or irreligious. I will concede, however, that it is
up for debate as to whether or not America shall remain a Christian nation.

Liberals have just as much an opportunity to change the course of the
American way of life as Conservatives and Evangelicals have of preserving
it. Thus, we really are engaged in an all out "culture war." It is a battle
for ideological supremacy. And there is a reason why accurately presenting
American history has become and shall remain the principle battlefield.

If all history amounted to was a depiction of events and persons as they
occurred then there would be no problem. Opponents of our Christian
heritage would simply acknowledge the facts but claim they have no bearing
on the present or the future. History would become a moot subject and the
ideological confrontations would converge solely on issues of economics and
politics. But it is not and a majority of Americans are rediscovering what
history really is. In his classic work "The Idea of History", R.G.
Collingwood correctly defines what history is and what it does:

Historical knowledge is the knowledge of what mind has done in the past,
and at the same time it is the redoing of this, the perpetuation of past
acts in the present...To the historian, the activities whose history he is
studying are not spectacles to be watched, but experiences to be lived
through his own mind (p. 218).

That is exactly why proponents for a religious-free America are hell-bent
on revising American history. History is not about memorizing important
dates, events, and people. It is about reliving and reexperiencing not just
the events themselves but the atmosphere of the times and in particular the
major role Christianity played shaping the individuals and events who made
history.

What the average American citizen is discovering is not only the truth
about American history but the reality that organizations like Americans
United for Separation of Church and State and People for the American Way
and the National Organization for Women and so on and so forth are not only
wrong but are fraudulent, misleading, dishonorable, and unprincipled.

For years preceding the American Revolution the heart of colonial debate
was not simply a purely political discussion over parliamentary procedures
and taxation without representation. All anyone has to do is study the
primary source material to discover that the debate focused upon whether or
not the King of England had abrogated his God-given authority to rule over
the colonists.

That Christian churches played a primary role in eighteenth century
colonial life is documented fact. In the years immediately preceding the
Revolution loyalist ministers preached again and again from Paul's text in
Romans 13 concerning obedience to those in authority. However, the many
more who favored independence called upon texts like 2 Samuel 23:3, "He
that rules over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God."

Even reigning monarchs were viewed as being under a greater authority and
responsible for and answerable to the people. When they behaved as James II
they were to be declared as renegades and tyrants. The point is that the
heart of colonial debate was Christian theology. When a majority of
colonists embraced the view that when the King of England had imposed both
the Sugar Act and Stamp Act upon them without their consent and without
being fairly represented in Parliament and threatened to impose the Church
of England upon them they believed he had abandoned the Biblical principles
that gave him authority and revolted against him.

It may very well be the case that today's liberals are afraid that if and
when a majority of Americans rediscover and relive the truth of our history
they too will ris

Re: [CTRL] The Contradictions of Capitalism

[M.A. Johnson]

-Caveat Lector-

Nessie Chanted
   Capitalism and free markets are inherently contradictory.
MJ
Bullshit.
These two concepts are inherently linked.

Nessie Chanted
   Capitalism  can't exist in a free market because
   capitalism requires the state.
MJ
Bullshit.
Once the STATE sticks it's nose into Capitalism -- by
DEFINITION -- it ceases.  Learn the difference between
PRIVATE and GOVERNMENT.

Nessie
   Without the armed might of the state to protect
   them, corporations can't exist.
MJ
Sure.  Corporations are a product of the State ... but
they have NOTHING to do with Capitalism.

Regard$,
--MJ

There is simply no other choice than this: either
abstain from interference in the free play of the
market, or to delegate the entire management of
production and distribution to the government.
Either capitalism or socialism: there exists no
middle way.  —Ludwig von Mises

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Re: [CTRL] Did You Know That...

[Tito Hammond]

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In a message dated 7/4/01 9:04:22 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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<<
 > •  Studies have shown that the more guns honest citizens own, the lower
the
 > crime rate – with violent crime dropping about 4 percent for each 1
percent
 > rise in gun ownership?

 Who is an " honest citizen?" And who gets to make that judgment? No one.
 Instead, guns are available to all. Honest or not.>>


Guns should not be legally available to known criminals.  Known criminals are
not honest citizens.




<< >
 > • The most dramatic reductions in crime have occurred in states passing
laws
 > that allow honest citizens to carry concealed weapons?

 Maybe yes, maybe no.>>


Look at the facts, I'm sure they have been posted to this list before, but
you as a gun confiscator do not believe facts, only the myths that say guns
are "bad."  Do you live in a big city?  Surely you were not raised in a less
populated area where guns are more common.

 <<
 > • You are far more likely to get mugged, raped, burglarized or shot in
 > America’s big cities today – where gun laws are strict – than on
the old
 > western frontier, where virtually everyone carried a gun?

 This is pure bullshit. It has nothing to do with gun laws and everything to
 do with population and density.>>

If what you have stated is true, then gun deaths in smaller populated areas
should be proportional to larger populated areas.  Explain and provide proof
that population and density are as you say.



 <<
 > • During the frontier era, the combined murder rate in Dodge City,
Abilene,
 > Ellsworth, Wichita, and Caldwell – all wide-open cattle towns – was
less
 > than two murders per year for all five towns combined?

 So?>>

So, there is less gun violence when everyone is armed ... the "wild west"
wasn't so wild, just free.


 <<
 > • Violent crime today is concentrated overwhelmingly among inner-city
 > minorities – with African-Americans committing murder at 8 times the
rate of
 > whites?

 So everyone should be allowed to own guns but Blacks?>>

No, foolish one.  Law abiding black citizens should be allowed their
Constitutional right to own a weapon to protect themselves.  If more law
abiding blacks owned guns in the ghettos of America the ghettos would be a
safer place for everyone except the criminals.

 <<
 > • The rate of gun murders among white U.S. teenagers is roughly the same
as
 > among teenagers in Canada?
 >
 > • The most heavily armed nation in the world, per capita, is Switzerland?
 >
 > • Switzerland also has one of the lowest crime rates in the world?

 Americans are not sane and civilized and cohesive as are the Swiss. You are
 comparing apples and oranges.>>

Please explain and provide proof that Americans are not sane-civilized-and
cohesive as the Swiss.  Please only the facts and not the false thinking of a
gun confiscator.



 <<
 > • England and Australia both experienced dramatic increases in violent
crime
 > after confiscating guns from honest citizens?

 That was stupid. They should have confiscated the guns from the dishonest
 citizen too. Duh!>>

The criminals are not going to willingly give up their weapons.  Have you
devised a method to remove guns from the criminal element?  That is exactly
what the gun confiscators want to do in America ... disarm the American
public and you have people who have to be slaves.  'Tis not the left or the
right that wants gun confiscation, but the rich and powerful elite.  The
elite want to own you and are doing everything in their power to confiscate
your weapons so you cannot resist the takeover by the UN.



 <<
 > • Australia and England were ranked the first and second worst countries
in
 > the industrialized world – in that order – in terms of violent crime,
 > according to the February 2001 International Crime Victims Survey, released
 > by Leiden University in Holland?
 >
 > • The United States did not even make the top 10 list of Leiden
University’s
 > International Crime Victims Survey?

 Ergo, the US doesn't have a crime/gun problem.>>

Can you not read?  Do we have a disability?  Australia and England
confiscated guns from honest citizens, now the criminals have nothing to fear
for they hold the upper hand, they have guns.  If guns are confiscated from
the American public, then we shall be as defenseless as people in Australia
and England.




 <<
 > A recent study by the Media Research Center shows that television news
 > stories calling for stricter gun laws outnumber those opposing such laws
by a
 > ratio of ten to one. When it comes to guns and gun laws, we are hearing
only
 > one side of the story.
 >
 > To hear the other side, read The Seven Myths of Gun Control by Richard Poe.

 If it's more bullshit like this...
 No thanks. >>

Spoken like a true gun confiscator.  Never listen to facts, ignore them.
Always follow the reli

Re: [CTRL] Did You Know That...

[Nessie]

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> They should have confiscated the guns from the dishonest citizen too


It can't be done. By definition, only law abiding citizens obey the law.

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Re: [CTRL] CNN: Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case

[Jenny Decker]

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If she disappeared without being traced, then she left the building some
other way than upright on her feet. Rolled up in a rug, etc. Or in pieces in
boxes. It would be possible to dismember a body in a bathtub (if you brought
the right tools), and then neatly wash away all the blood.

I'd be looking for service people who came in to the building that day:
painters, plumbers, UPS, etc. etc. Four people carrying paintbuckets, for
example, could deal with the problem invisibly.

Jenny

> Somehow this girl disappeared from a highly secured apartment building,
> with no trace recorded on the 24-hour video recording system in the
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> possible for someone else to enter and leave the apartment without
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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

[Nessie]

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> know that this is done


How do you know?

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[CTRL] WT: 6 women talk to police in Levy case

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.washtimes.com/metro/20010704-50114360.htm


THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 4, 2001

6 women talk to police in Levy case

By John Drake and Jim Keary


Detectives investigating the disappearance of Chandra Ann Levy have
interviewed six women who said they have had romantic relationships with
Rep. Gary A. Condit, who has said he is a "friend" of the missing intern's,
a law enforcement source said.

Top Stories

The women came forward after Miss Levy was reported missing in early May,
the law enforcement source said. They included a United Airlines flight
attendant who said in a television interview Monday that Mr. Condit
pressured her to deny their yearlong affair in a written statement.

Flight attendant Anne Marie Smith, 39, of San Francisco said in her
interview on Fox News that she refused to sign the statement. Miss Smith,
speaking in Seattle, also said Mr. Condit told her not to cooperate with
the FBI, which had contacted her in the Levy investigation.

"We've talked to five other women other than the flight attendant,"
the law enforcement source said. "They are all types and ages."

Chris Murray, a spokesman for the FBI's Washington Field Office, yesterday
said the agency has interviewed Miss Smith. He declined to comment further
on the Levy case or the Smith interview.

Police have said publicly that Mr. Condit, who represents Miss Levy's
hometown of Modesto, Calif., is not a suspect in her disappearance, which
is being investigated as a missing persons case.
In a written statement yesterday, Mr. Condit denied telling Miss Smith to
mislead investigators or not talk to the FBI. "I have not asked anyone to
refrain from discussing this matter with authorities, nor have I suggested
anyone mislead the authorities," the California Democrat's statement reads.

In addition, Mr. Condit's office in California issued a statement from the
law firm representing him that disputes Miss Smith's account.
Cotchett, Pitre and Simon said it e-mailed a "draft" statement to Jim
Robinson, Miss Smith's attorney in Seattle, to clarify her relationship
with the congressman following a tabloid magazine report about the matter.

Mr. Robinson was to review the draft statement and "edit, cut, suggest"
changes before having Miss Smith sign it, the law firm statement reads. One
part of the statement would have Miss Smith, under penalty of perjury, deny
having had a "relationship with Congressman Condit other than being
acquainted with him. I do not and have not had a romantic relationship with
Congressman Condit."

Miss Levy, 24, a former intern at the Bureau of Prisons, was last seen in
the District on April 30, when she canceled a gym membership near her
apartment in the Dupont Circle area. Police, citing bank, phone and
computer records, said this week she may have spent part of the next day in
her apartment.

Detectives found no signs of a struggle in her apartment, and her money,
credit cards and her driver's license were with her packed luggage.

Police twice have interviewed Mr. Condit, saying he provided useful
information. Privately, law enforcement sources said he provided few
details and little more than what was outlined in written statements to the
media.

Authorities are trying to interview Mr. Condit's wife, Carolyn, in
California. Mrs. Condit, who is reportedly critically ill, has been
uncooperative in working out ground rules for talks, sources said.
The law enforcement source said Metropolitan Police detectives are
coordinating with FBI agents in California to see if other women have
acknowledged having affairs with Mr. Condit, 53.

In her televised interview Monday, Miss Smith did not say Mr.
Condit and Miss Levy were having an affair, but she suspected he was seeing
someone else, though she did not know for sure. She said she had not spoken
to Mr. Condit since one or two weeks before Miss Levy vanished.

Law enforcement officials yesterday refused to say if they were
investigating Mr. Condit for obstruction of justice in the wake of Miss
Smith's televised statement.

"We are continuing our investigation and won't respond to rumors, innuendos
or comments made by others," said Sgt. Joe Gentile, spokesman for the
Metropolitan Police Department. "Our focus is the disappearance of Miss
Levy. We are trying to determine what happened. That is the focus of our
investigation."

Spokesmen for the U.S. Attorney's Offices in the District, California and
Seattle have refused to comment on the case, saying they can neither
confirm nor deny a federal probe into whether Mr. Condit has interfered
with the investigation.

"If you've got someone encouraging a potential witness to not be truthful
about any information that could be regarded as important ...
to the investigation, that could qualify as obstruction of justice,"
said former fed

Re: [CTRL] The Contradictions of Capitalism

[Nessie]

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Capitalism and free markets are inherently contradictory. Capitalism
can't exist in a free market because capitalism requires the state.
Without the armed might of the state to protect them, corporations can't
exist.

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[CTRL] WT: Cisneros probe to continue

[MIKE SPITZER]

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http://www.washtimes.com/national/20010704-66595132.htm


THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 4, 2001

Cisneros probe to continue

By Jerry Seper


A federal appeals court panel has ruled that the independent counsel
investigation of former Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros can continue
despite his last-minute pardon by President Clinton.

Top Stories

Saying it is "not currently appropriate" to end the 6-year-old, $15 million
probe, the three-judge panel unanimously gave independent counsel David
Barrett the go-ahead to continue his investigation of Mr. Cisneros' hush
payments to a former mistress.

The ruling was issued June 15, but was made public yesterday.

Mr. Barrett, the last remaining special prosecutor under the now-defunct
Independent Counsel Statute, was appointed in May 1995 to investigate
accusations that Mr. Cisneros gave false statements to the FBI about
payments he made to Linda Medlar, the former mistress.

Mr. Cisneros pleaded guilty on Sept. 9, 1999, to a misdemeanor count of
lying to the FBI and paid a $10,000 fine. Mr. Clinton granted him a pardon
with less than two hours remaining in his presidency.

The Barrett investigation, which initially focused on obstruction of
justice and other related crimes, has since been expanded to include
accusations of income-tax evasion and has focused on others involved in the
suspected conspiracy.

The court panel consists of Judges David B. Sentelle, appointed by
President Reagan; Peter T. Fay, named by President Nixon; and Richard D.
Cudahy, appointed by President Carter.

Judge Cudahy, in a separate concurring opinion, said the question of
whether it was appropriate to end Mr. Barrett's investigation was
"difficult and perplexing." He said Mr. Cisneros' 1999 guilty plea "seems
to have completed the proceedings" against the former Clinton Cabinet
official.

"Presumably, any involvement of Mr. Cisneros himself in related offenses
such as obstruction of justice would have been known at the time of the
plea bargain," Judge Cudahy said.

"However, since then, Mr. Barrett has continued an apparently wide-ranging
probe of government officials who might, in his view, have sought to shield
Mr. Cisneros.

"Some press accounts suggest that these continuing inquiries have met with
diminishing returns, but describe Mr. Barrett as maintaining an active
grand jury process, which, in his view, is making unspecified but
'substantial' progress," he said.

Judge Cudahy questioned Mr. Barrett's expenditure of $15 million for the
investigation and ongoing costs of $1 million every six months.

"Whether a cost-benefit analysis at this point would support Mr. Barrett's
efforts is a question to which I have no answer," he said. "In any event,
such an inquiry by this panel is apparently precluded under the now-expired
Independent Counsel Statute."

Judge Cudahy said the statute allows termination of an investigation only
when it has been completed, noting that Mr. Barrett still was presenting
the case to a grand jury.

"The law literally construed may be that Mr. Barrett can go on forever so
long as he claims or shows active grand jury activity, no matter how
unpromising," the judge said. "Who is to contradict his evaluation that
what he is doing is full of promise?

"The continuation of Mr. Barrett's efforts may indeed justify these lavish
expenditures. ... At this juncture,... we apparently have little choice but
to accept representations of productive activity at face value despite
persuasive reasons for doubt," the judge said.

copyright © 2001 News World Communications, Inc.


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Re: [CTRL] Cooper cracks Chandra Levy case!

[Jenny Decker]

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Another demonstration of his guilt:

Flight attendant Ann Marie Smith called Condit on "June 5th or 6th," at
which time he told her he had to disappear because he was in trouble.
Exactly what time did she make this call?

Chandra's mother called Condit on the 6th, pretty late in the day, when she
left the message saying her daughter had disappeared, and asking Condit for
information about her daughter. Since according to Condit he was not
answering Chandra's calls, and believed she was going back to California
right away,  he would have no way of knowing that Chandra was missing until
Susan Levy's phone message informed him. So, how would he know to tell Anne
Marie Smith that he was "in trouble," if she called BEFORE Susan Levy? Only
if he was involved with Chandra's disappearance.

Jenny
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>
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:
> ><< Fact:  Congressman Condit was married and had a wife, far, far away in
> > Modesto, California, >>
> >
> >Yes, but strangely, that wife was right there in River City on the day in
> >question.  Makes for an interesting possibility.  Prudy
>
> Indeed it does.  Which is why, in a previous post, I mentioned the wife
> as a possible suspect.
>
>
> June

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Re: [CTRL] Running on Empty

[Alamaine]

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> < Slobo inherited a lot of problems.  >>
>
> What he really inherited was a country on the verge of an old fashioned
> American style success.

The problems to which I refer include having had a number of people who were guest
workers in Western Europe, much like the Turks were, who sent a portion of their
earnings back to Yugoslavia and helped bolster their economy.  When the recessions
hit in the late 70-ies or early 80ies, this source of revenue dried up.  On top of
the exportation of labour (and resultant importation of revenue), the larger issue
of actual goods exportation for revenue also dwindled.  Subsequent to this series of
events, the economy faltered, "requiring" the IMF to step in and "restructure" the
economy.  Thus, down the slippery slope of foreign intervention.  Then the central
government tried to keep the whole thing going by taking the taxation from the more
productive (i.e., wealthier) states and supporting the least capable (i.e.,
Kosovaria).  This upset the productive states and then they decided they didn't want
to be part of the union no mo'.  Somewhere in all of this we see Slobo arriving on
the scene.  Then we have the separatist causes of Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, and
others.  Et cetera, et cetera.

A good source for material on this is *Balkan Tragedy*, by Susan L. Woodward.

There are many good charts in the book, among them rates of unemployment from 1979
to 1991 (13.9% to 16.5%, respectively, the largest jump occurring between 1981 to
1986, Reaganomics years); Croatia had about 6%, Slovenia about 2%, Kosovaria 39% to
59% (!), and Bosnia between 17% and 22% (all numbers approximate as I'm reading off
the charts).  The others hover in the late teens for percentage except Macedonia
which is in the upper 20%.  Find the Albanian concentration.  This is to point out
their resistance to the government.

Inflation for the whole of the country went from near 0% to around 200% in 1988 then
to 1200 (twelve hundred)% in 1989 then back down to a balmy 100+%.  I think Slobo's
real rise to power came along around 1989-90.  GDP went from + 5% in 1979 down to +/-
 0% until 1989 then plummeted to -15% in 1991.  More resistance to Belgrade?

This was about the time the separatist movements cranked up.  And Slobo was the
President of Serbia.  The end result was due to an overdependence on the West for
revenue (Yugoslavia had always been able to trade with the West) then an
overdependence on rescues.  Thus, the squeeze play resulting in the 1999 "war".

A little something on Slobo from
http://suc.org/politics/papers/history/vujacic.html

}}>Begin

SERBIAN NATIONALISM, SLOBODAN MILOSEVIC
AND THE ORIGINS OF THE YUGOSLAV WAR
Dr. Veljko Vujacic
The Harriman Review, Vol.8, No.4, December 1995
Much of the current Yugoslav crisis has revolved around the mysterious figure of
Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic. Milosevic has been blamed for fanning the
flames of Serbian nationalism, destroying the Yugoslav state, provoking civil war by
organizing hate campaigns in the state-controlled media (especially television),
arming "rebel Serbs" in the Krajna (Croatia), "ethnic cleansing" in Bosnia, and
plotting to create "Greater Serbia." He has been called a "Communist apparatchik," a
"ruthless nationalist populist," a "Balkan butcher," a "fascist," and "the most
odious statesman in Europe since World War II." Probably no other president of a
European country has been so vilified in the postwar Western press.

In December 1992, Lawrence Eagleburger, an erstwhile acquaintance of Mr. Milosevic
(at the time of his ambassadorship in Belgrade) declared the Serbian President a
"war criminal." Eagleburger made this statement on the very eve of the fateful
election which pitted the Californian-Serbian businessman Milan Panic against
Milosevic. Intentionally or unintentionally, the statement fortified Milosevic's
image as a "national hero" reelection (remember the re-election of Kurt Waldheim?)
and weakened the chances of Mr. Panic whom the regime desperately attempted to
portray as a CIA agent bent on destroying Serbia.

It is all the more ironic, in view of all this, that Milosevic has recently become
"our man in Belgrade." The current American negotiator in the Balkans, Richard
Holbroke, is full of praise for Milosevic the peace-broker, undoubtedly because of
his willingness to give up the Krajina region to Croatia and cede a huge territory
in Western Bosnia to the Croat-Muslim federation. For better or for worse, Milosevic
is still the man in charge of Serbia and the one who has greater leverage on Bosnian
 Serbs than any other Serbian politician in his place could possibly have. Moreover,
it is almost certain that no other major Serbian politician could watch the stream
of more than 250,000 Serbian refugees escaping the combined attack of Croatian and
Bosnian forces in Krajina and Western Bosnia with the same august and cynical
indifference as Milosevic. For all these reasons, and in a truly 

Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico

[Nurev Ind.]

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Bill Howard wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 7/3/01 9:23:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << AHHH. You've finally come to your senses. You've become an
> anti-capitalist. It's about time. >>
>
> Anti-capitalist? You have been smoking too much of that sh*t steve and c have
> been discussing. Don't look over your sholder, THEY are watching you!
>

Too bad. You ALMOST had it there for a minute.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Running on Empty j2

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"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> In a message dated 07/03/2001 12:42:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Slobo inherited a lot of problems.  >>
>
> What he really inherited was a country on the verge of an old fashioned
> American style success.  Yugoslavia had a diverse population (both in ethnic
> background and religion) that spoke a common language and which had learned
> to get along together, mainly because Tito insisted on it and it had become a
> way of life.  Yugoslavia had rich natural resources which, if judiciously
> used, could have brought a good income.  Yugoslavia had a fine sea coast with
> islands for fishing and swimming, and some really great places to ski.
> Affluent tourists were beginning to go there. There were lovely cities,
> lovely food and wonderful music.  Unfortunately Yugoslavia had a big military
> presence and a lot of armament.  It was all in Beograd.   Of course, there
> were the old rancors too, and with a bit of luck, these could escalate.
> Divide and conquer has always worked.  That was the only inheritance "Slobo"
> cared about.  So by wallowing in the mire of the past, Yugoslavia lost her
> chance at a glorious future.  Slobo was a short sighted bum.  Prudy
>

You got most of it right, but as soon as you filtered it through you Liberal
sieve, you turned it into drivel.

Yugoslavia was intentionally divided and broken up by Germany and the USA.
They funded the MOST nationalist elements in EVERY Yugo province starting
with Slovenia and Croatia. Germany recognized the minority breakaway elements,
and it all came down to a scramble for land based on ethnicity. Slobo was not
a racist. But he was a Communist, and Yugo's socialist economy was WORKING
quite nicely. This was unacceptable to the Elites pushing for a United States
of Europe, and a Corporate Capitalist economy.

The CIA and German backed KLA was charged with creating a civil war between
Kosovars and Serbs in Kosovo. They did exactly that, and created a phony
situation of " ethnic cleansing " which appealed to Liberal morons who backed
an aggressive war by the USA and NATO against a country which did not commit
aggression against anyone.

Joshua2

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[CTRL] The DEA's Dirty Deeds

[Martin F. Abernathy]

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To date there has been *no* mention of Charles Schlund's lawsuit against the 
government in the 'mainstream', [i.e. corporate-controlled], media. I guess that some 
subjects are just too HOT to handle!




From: chuck ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Subject: CIA Drugs
Newsgroups: alt.politics.greens, alt.politics.media,
alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.reform, alt.military,
alt.news.macedonia, alt.news-media
Date: 1999/06/17


My name is Charles A. Schlund I'm an electrical contractor in Phoenix Arizona. I'm 52 
years old 6 ft 230 lb. I was involved with out my consent in the DEA's operations of 
manufacturing and distributing drugs to the inner cities of the US. I worked from the 
early 1990's with the FBI against the CIA, DEA and others under their direction or 
control. The information I supplied the FBI cost the CIA, DEA and others
billions of dollars in lost drugs profits. I was also able to stop many of the 
assassinations under their direction and control.

The DEA obtained a court order under perjury and fabricated or created evidence to 
inject two CIA designed torture devices in my neck to torture me in an act of control 
and revenge to stop the information I
have. I have filed a federal lawsuit against the DEA for the use of torture and other 
things. My case is filed in the District of Arizona Federal Court Case Number 
CIV98-1875PHXROS. All federal agencies are
aware of this case and have been before it was filed.

My lawsuit is real and is not a normal complaint or lawsuit. The issues addressed in 
this lawsuit may be what you might call unbelievable but they are also very real and 
true.

Congress wouldn't allow my testimony. When the CIA did their investigation they also 
wouldn't allow my testimony. My testimony is far too damaging and provable to allow me 
to testify against them.

The CIA did smuggle drugs into the US and the DEA did protect and distribute these 
drugs. Is there anything you are looking for in the way of information. The 
information I have is much worse than just this.

Chuck.


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Mr. Schlund's lawsuit was recently [May 2001] rejected by the U.S.  Supreme Court. Are 
they trying to sweep the issues of CIA/DEA drug trafficking and the *torture* of 
American dissidents under the rug?

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Re: [CTRL] Did You Know That...

[Nurev Ind.]

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Tito Hammond wrote:
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>
> Did You Know That…
>
> •  Americans use guns in self-defense up to 3.6 million times each year?

This is good.

>
> •  In 98 percent of those cases, the criminal flees at the mere sight of the
> gun?

This is great.
>
> • The criminal succeeds in taking the gun from his intended victim in only
> one percent of those cases?

That's 36,000 people.

>
> •  Studies have shown that the more guns honest citizens own, the lower the
> crime rate – with violent crime dropping about 4 percent for each 1 percent
> rise in gun ownership?

Who is an " honest citizen?" And who gets to make that judgment? No one.
Instead, guns are available to all. Honest or not.

>
> • The most dramatic reductions in crime have occurred in states passing laws
> that allow honest citizens to carry concealed weapons?

Maybe yes, maybe no.

>
> • You are far more likely to get mugged, raped, burglarized or shot in
> America’s big cities today – where gun laws are strict – than on the old
> western frontier, where virtually everyone carried a gun?

This is pure bullshit. It has nothing to do with gun laws and everything to
do with population and density.

>
> • During the frontier era, the combined murder rate in Dodge City, Abilene,
> Ellsworth, Wichita, and Caldwell – all wide-open cattle towns – was less
> than two murders per year for all five towns combined?

So?

>
> • Violent crime today is concentrated overwhelmingly among inner-city
> minorities – with African-Americans committing murder at 8 times the rate of
> whites?

So everyone should be allowed to own guns but Blacks?

>
> • The rate of gun murders among white U.S. teenagers is roughly the same as
> among teenagers in Canada?
>
> • The most heavily armed nation in the world, per capita, is Switzerland?
>
> • Switzerland also has one of the lowest crime rates in the world?

Americans are not sane and civilized and cohesive as are the Swiss. You are
comparing apples and oranges.

>
> • England and Australia both experienced dramatic increases in violent crime
> after confiscating guns from honest citizens?

That was stupid. They should have confiscated the guns from the dishonest
citizen too. Duh!

>
> • Australia and England were ranked the first and second worst countries in
> the industrialized world – in that order – in terms of violent crime,
> according to the February 2001 International Crime Victims Survey, released
> by Leiden University in Holland?
>
> • The United States did not even make the top 10 list of Leiden University’s
> International Crime Victims Survey?

Ergo, the US doesn't have a crime/gun problem.

>
> Of course you didn’t know these things. How could you?

I knew these things.

>
> A recent study by the Media Research Center shows that television news
> stories calling for stricter gun laws outnumber those opposing such laws by a
> ratio of ten to one. When it comes to guns and gun laws, we are hearing only
> one side of the story.
>
> To hear the other side, read The Seven Myths of Gun Control by Richard Poe.

If it's more bullshit like this...
No thanks.

J2

>
> Richard Poe is editor of David Horowitz’s Web site FrontPageMagazine.com and
> SlapHillary.com.
>

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SIGHTINGS

[Aleisha Saba]

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Well June why don't you contact Amelia for I forwarded copy of the list
and everything in it for a laugh.

You seem to always try to get others removed from lists but this one
which I ran acrosss, they gave you the big boot for you were a very
disruptive element which they found they could no longer tolerate?

So you write to Amelia and ask her for a copy;  I do not have time to
fool around with ou any further.

It has been let us say quite a bore - from green tea to the dog catchers
daughter - to Plum Island which obviously you know nothing about other
than what you glean from the work of others.

Forgive me for as they say I laughed my tiny behind off on that one and
so did Amelia and others to whom we sent this crapola about the Reverend
Donna J. Logan, at Revcoal and then it was Rev. Coal but really June -
what shall I call you - Pastor Logan or Pastor Coal -  so  Donna I do
not intend to respond further to any of your ridiculous comments..

Go back to your HUD apartment and listen to the many landlord complaints
but if I had been some of those people I would have rather consulted an
attorney for we all know HUD is the biggest piece of crap to come down
the pike since multicultural housing?

Saba

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[CTRL] Check out AOL News: 14 Sect Members Die in Chinese Labor Camp

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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Wow, and we think our FDA is nasty about any medical procedure they haven't
blessed.  Prudy

 Click here:  AOL News: 14
Sect Members Die in Chinese Labor Camp

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Re: [CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?

[Aleisha Saba]

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Well the last of the big spenders bought you a license June to be a
preacher - they cost $2.00wow, he must have thought the world of
you.

Now I am registered with Secretary of State and I could marry people if
I wanted to; however, I save this for a tax dodge someday if I really
need to but as it is, do not have to stoop to that level.

My friend in MI6 once sent me a check for $10,000 for servies rendered -
and you get a two dollar license?

Excuse me, I must go now - the Rev. June.she addresses herself as
Rev. June - now June, this is how you address a preacher - it is like
signing a name:

The Reverend Donna J. Logan - or a Judge signing his name The Honorable
Judge Jones

This June is how you are to address in a proper manner a bonafide
preacher - but you seem to fit in Jesse Jackson's class, the not so
reverend Jesse Jackson

And by the way June this story of a boy from Jordan, this was not
written by me; and further my husband when he died, for I still called
him my husband even though I had him removed from the premises,  he left
me a little life insurance policy of $50,000 which I gave in part to two
of my children for downpayment on a house, and they were in their early
20's then.

So such a gift as a preachers license for services rendered - boy two
bucks...you were overpaid.

So the dog catcher's daughter is a liar . the not so reverend Donna
J. Logan, aka Rev. Coal, aka June, aka whatever ..

Saba

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[CTRL] Greenpeace Protests But Media Very Quiet

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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Although this seems like quite an issue, there is only one reference to it in
the British press, and the NYTimes doesn't mention it at all.  Seems the
liberal media is letting us down again.  Prudy


Protesters still at large in UK 'Star Wars' base

By Karen Matusic


LONDON, July 4 (Reuters) - Two demonstrators kept up a protest on Wednesday
inside a British radar base that could play a key role in the U.S. "Son of
Star Wars" missile defence system, officials said.

Overnight, military police had managed to remove a dozen protesters from
buildings to which they had chained themselves at the Menwith Hill base in
Yorkshire, northern England.

One New Zealand activist escaped to a radio mast, however, where he was
joined by three other protesters -- part of a group of 20-25 who tried to
storm the base on Wednesday morning, Greenpeace said. Two of the four had
come down from the masts by midday due to illness and lack of supplies.

Waving flags proclaiming "Star Wars Starts Wars," and blasting the theme
tunes of "Mission Impossible" and the "Thunderbirds" over a sound system,
some 100 Greenpeace activists entered the front gate of the base on Tuesday,
demanding Britain reject U.S. President George W. Bush's proposed missile
plan.

The ease with which the protesters entered the sensitive installation set off
alarm bells within the British government.

A Defence Ministry official said Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon "was very
concerned at what is a breach of security."

Most of the activists were expelled from the site on Tuesday and seven
arrests were made, a Defence Ministry spokeswoman said.

"The arrests have been mainly for causing damage but the protesters have not
been particularly offensive," she said.

Prime Minister Tony Blair's spokesman slammed the protest as a "publicity
stunt" and said demonstrators should remember that the base is a key NATO
base and has an important role in "defending this country from missile
attack."

Bush's proposed shield system is intended to protect the United States and
its allies from long-range missile attack.

Blair has said he has not yet decided whether to back the project but his
spokesman has signalled broad support.

Many Europeans are sceptical about the proposed missile shield's capability
after some test failures. They are also concerned that the United States
should not tear up key arms control treaties with Russia that limit such
defences.

Blair's spokesman said on Wednesday that Britain recognised the concerns of
the U.S administration regarding the threat from countries who have the
potential to develop weapons of mass destruction, but said no firm plans had
yet been proposed.

"The U.S. have said that they will consult with their allies (on national
missile defence). U.S. thinking on this is still in the developmental stage,"
he said.

Greenpeace spokesman William Peden told Reuters the group intended to keep up
the protests until Britain abandons Star Wars.

The demonstrators, who included Britons, Danes and Americans, painted "Stop
Star Wars" on the base's water tower.

Greenpeace said that if Britain gave the go-ahead, Menwith Hill would be used
as a ground relay station to transmit information on missile location and
trajectory back to the United States to help with targeting of interceptor
missiles.

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Thomas Jefferson Forever

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 07/04/2001 8:41:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
  How sad it is to that the current occupant of the White House bears the
  middle name "Jefferson" -- even though the real Jefferson taught his nephew
  Peter Carr: "Nothing is so mistaken as the supposition that a person is to
  extricate himself from a difficulty, by intrigue, by chicanery, by
  dissimulation, by trimming an untruth, by an injustice. It is of great
  importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an
untruth." >>

Huh???  Well, okay, I'm sad about the current occupant of the White
House.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Who is AGENT PROVOCATEUR?

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
>So we know this individual does not fly the Gay Pride Flag and that
>leaves out June;

Where do you get off saying I fly a gay pride flag?

Closest thing I have is a 'rainbow trout' windsock which is sold by most
kite and windsock/flag outfits, but which someone on Ebay now touts as a
'gay' symbol, which I think is a hoot.


>however, June (aka Donna J. Logan, and the Rev. Donna,
>etc, etc, etc) passed herself off as a bonafide Preacher numerous times
>on other lists.

As bona fide as any of the mailorder churches are...

The credentials state that I supposedly have the legal right to conduct
marriages, funerals, etc., but I've never tested it.  And I've always
been honest about my credentials, which were bought for me as a gift for
'services rendered' as it were


>No doubt she was associated with Anton LaVey's Church of Satan

No, the name is Rev. COAL..."COAL" is the church, I'll let you try to
figure it out...


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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

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Nessie wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> >If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions have little
> effect on the amount of THC.
>
> The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that
> it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will
> go up.
>

The THC is concentrated in the flowers, but also in the leaves to a much.
lesser extent. This is why you get hi smoking the leaves.  If you
put the plants under certain conditions, the leaves will produce more THC
too.

Since it is mostly the leaves that people smoke, some growers ' top ' the
flowers to send more THC to the plant's leaves.

I know that this is done, but I am not sure how scientific it really is.

J2

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SIGHTINGS

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On Wed, 4 Jul 2001, Aleisha Saba wrote:
>Well Donna J. Logan aka June aka the Rev. Coal - you had claimed your
>father was the local dog catcher and this was when you were kicked off
>this one list for being such a trouble maker and so obnoxious.

What list do you claim I was kicked off of?  I have quit many lists, but
never been kicked off of any.

You have consistently displayed an inability to keep simple facts
straight.

The simple fact is, my father at one time (mid- to late-1950s) was the
canine control officer for our town.  He applied, and was subsequently
hired, for the position of Canine Control Officer with the state
Department of Agriculture, a position he filled until his death in 1971;
at the time my father became an employee of the state, our town asked my
mother to take over my father's position, which she did, and which she
filled until the mid-1960s.

Both parents were written about many times in local papers, and my father
had quite a nice article written about him in the Bridgeport Post
(now the Connecticut Post) when he died, so it is all very verifiable,
Aleisha


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[CTRL] Judge, Jury and Executioner

[Yardbird]

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Israel's Palestinian Liquidation Policy Is Nothing Short Of State
Sponsored Terrorism

Chicago - July 4, 2001 (IAP NEWS) - Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
and his closest advisers, known as the "kitchen cabinet",  said on Tuesday
that Israel would not only stick to its policy of tracking down and
assassinating Palestinian civilians who are actively involved in resisting
the illegal occupation of their ancestral land, but be given an even
broader license to do so. The new act would be directed at Palestinians
whom the Israelis thought were on the verge of committing an attack, and
not after the fact.

In commenting on the policy, an Israeli  security source stated: "In
places where we have asked the Palestinian Authority to work to foil
attacks and it is not doing so, we will have to act in its stead." In
addition, Sharon's spokesman, Raanan Gissin, said the number of killings
depends on Palestinian efforts to stop attacks. "The less they do, the
more we have to do,'' he said.

In other words, if the PA does not arrest Palestinians whom Israel
considers to be terrorist under Israeli definitions of the word, then
Israel will just shoot them.

In seeking to justify these draconian measures, Israeli Science Minister
Matan Vilnai scoffed at U.S. criticism of this policy by saying on Israeli
radio: "I'm not sure they (American officials) really understand the rules
of the game."

"I would like to see how the Americans would react if a car packed with
explosives blew up in the middle of Manhattan,"  Vilnai further stated.

American citizens reading this commentary can judge for themselves if they
would be willing to accept their government adopting an official policy of
assassinating suspects and circumventing due process in the courts of law.

By Israel implementing such a law the Israeli government, who will order
either Israeli police or the IDF to carry out these assassinations,  is
setting itself up as judge, jury and executioner without following any due
process of law. In legal language such a practice is referred to as
"extra-judicial killings."

Article 10 of the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights states:

"Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an
independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and
obligations and of any criminal charge against him."

And Article 11(1) states:

"Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed
innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which
he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence."

In addition, this assassination policy constitutes willful killing and is
is a grave breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Article 32 of that
convention states:

"The High Contracting Parties specifically agree that each of them is
prohibited from taking any measure of such a character as to cause the
physical suffering or extermination of protected persons in their hands.
This prohibition applies not only to murder, torture, corporal punishment,
mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the
medical treatment of a protected person but also to any other measures of
brutality whether applied by civilian or by military agents."

Moreover, it gravely breaches Article 75 of Protocol Additional to the
Fourth Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (Protocol 1) especially
Paragraph 2, which states,

"The following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any
place whatsoever, whether committed by civilian or by military agents: a.
Violence to the life, health, or physical or mental well-being of persons,
in particular: i. Murder; ii. Torture of all kinds, whether physical or
mental; iii. Corporal punishment; and iv. Mutilation"

and Paragraph 3 of Article 85 of the same Protocol, which stipulates

"In addition to the grave breaches defined in Article 11, the following
acts shall be regarded as grave breaches of this Protocol, when committed
willfully, in violation of the relevant provisions of this Protocol, and
causing death or serious injury to body or health: a. Making the civilian
population or individual civilians the object of attack."

In spite of this, since the beginning of the al Aqsa Intifada in
September, at least 15 Palestinians were victims of Israels policy of
extra-judicial execution.

The fact of the matter is that extra-judicial killings constitute a war
crime and is nothing short of state sponsored terrorism against a civilian
population. Under Israeli rules everyone becomes guilty and is thus a
potential target of the next assassination.

Given these facts, it is incumbent on the international community to
intervene and punish those responsible for both ordering and of carrying
out these acts of state sanctioned murder and try them in international
courts. The international community can no longer remain silent in the
face of  these hideous Israeli crimes,  and must intervene immediately to
protect Pale

[CTRL] The Contradictions of Capitalism

[Tito Hammond]

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The Contradictions of Capitalism
The Dearth of Rational Discussion
by Jim Peron
We can’t win. We advocates of individual rights, free markets and limited
government simply can’t win the intellectual debate with the Left. And the
reason for it is that there is no intellectual debate with them. And there
can’t be such a debate since the Left is simply not open to rational
discussion. They know that capitalism is inherently evil and nothing that is
said, no evidence that is presented, no facts that are marshaled will
convince them otherwise.
Fabians
Consider this example. The Fabian socialists were founded in 1883, the same
year that Karl Marx died, when a small group of “intellectuals” gathered at
17 Osnaburgh Street in London to hear some lectures on the promised new world
order of socialism. From this meeting was formed the Fabian Society,
dedicated to the willfully slow evolution of a socialist society in England.

The Society was named after the Roman general and dictator Quintus Fabius
Maximus who fought, and laid the groundwork for the defeat of, Hannibal. In
Fabian Tract No.1 the Society explained its strategy:

“For the right moment you must wait, as Fabius did most patiently when
warring against Hannibal, though many censured his delays; but when the time
comes you must strike hard, as Fabius did, or your waiting will be in vain
and fruitless.”

The credo of the Fabians said that the society “consists of Socialists” who
will work to destroy private property, free markets and individualism.

Fabians were a strong, if not the strongest, influence on the British Labour
Party and used the likes of George Bernard Shaw and Sidney and Beatrice Webb
to spout its propaganda on the virtues of Stalinism and Soviet Communism. Its
list of members read like the Who’s Who of British intellectualism and
included RH Tawney, GDH Cole, Harold Wilson, Harold Laski, Oswald Mosley (the
founder of British fascism), Bertrand Russell, Clement Attlee, John Strachey,
Stephen Spender, George Orwell, and others.

For over a century the Fabian Society has continued to promote a Marxist
agenda for the various countries of the world. At the turn of the last
century the Fabians would wax eloquently on the virtues of socialism and the
vices of capitalism. They never tired of telling anyone who would listen how
capitalism would lead to poverty and misery for the bulk of England's
workers. They promised that only a socialist, centrally planned society,
could achieve wealth and prosperity. The workers, noted the socialists, could
never find happiness and self-satisfaction as long as they were entrenched in
the poverty of a capitalist economy.

One hundred years later the Fabian Society stills exists. And not long ago,
on BBC World, I watched a documentary series entitled “Big Ideas”. It was
billed as an antidote to the pessimism of the politically correct. In truth
it was hardly that at all. Instead the entire show concentrated on an
“economist” who represents the Fabian Society. So what do the Fabians have
to say 100 years later? Will they continue with their rhetoric of the last
century and castigate capitalism for leading millions into poverty? Of course
not. The laughter from the millions of “workers” viewing the show on their
color televisions would drown out their rhetoric.

Capitalism Causes Too Much Prosperity
Instead this Fabian went on about how the wealth of capitalism doesn’t lead
to happiness. This “economist” lamented the luxuries of the average worker.
He ridiculed those who work hard to get ahead in the world. And he said that
this problem was clearly the fault of capitalism. It seems that capitalism
leads to prosperity. In fact it leads to too much prosperity. People start
seeking out luxuries, and status symbol consumer goods, as a result.

When it was pointed out to him that individuals who didn’t want to work hard
didn’t have to do so, he was unpersuaded. The problem with the wealth of
consumer capitalism is that the system itself forces people to compete. The
individual who wants to drop out, perhaps to read the works of Marx, can’t do
so because of the structure of the system. He is a victim of capitalism.
People should, instead, be free to concentrate on the “important” things, by
which he means things which he thinks are important.

And, of course, the solution to this structural problem was the “social
ownership” of the means of production. He wanted regulations and laws to
prevent rampant competition and wealth-gathering.

Now just about one century ago his forerunners in the Fabian Society were
saying that capitalism leads to poverty and that only socialism can create
wealth for the workers. Turning a blind eye to a century of rhetoric, today’s
Fabians are attacking capitalism for creating too much wealth. A century ago
the worker, living in poverty, would never find happiness. Today the Fabians
argue that happiness is illusive because of

Re: [CTRL] Cooper cracks Chandra Levy case!

[YnrChyldzWyld]

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On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote:
><< Fact:  Congressman Condit was married and had a wife, far, far away in
> Modesto, California, >>
>
>Yes, but strangely, that wife was right there in River City on the day in
>question.  Makes for an interesting possibility.  Prudy

Indeed it does.  Which is why, in a previous post, I mentioned the wife
as a possible suspect.


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[CTRL] Know Your ABCs

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http://www.pulsetc.com/V5I13/news.html
Palestine/Israel: Do you know your ABCs?

I just finished reading letters to the editor in response to Jennifer
Gulbrandson's cover story "Just Another Day Under Israeli Occupation."  Like
some letter writers, I am so upset I do not know where to start. But I will
try to be calm. Rather than escalate the debate, I mean to open it. I
challenge and support the editor to keep this discussion ongoing, despite
the backlash he is receiving.

I am a Jewish woman with family who lived in Haifa from 10 generations ago,
prior to the Zionist project. I just returned from living in Ramallah, the
West Bank, Occupied Palestine for eight months. I was involved there in
nonviolent demonstrations and acts of grassroots international intervention
and solidarity. In the nonviolent demonstrations in which I participated -
such as dismantling with our bare hands the roadblocks that prevent
thousands of people from accessing vocation, trade, basic services and even
emergency medical treatment - I cannot tell you how many people I saw shot,
wounded and killed. I lost count.

After the first murder I witnessed of the man standing in front of me, I
grew numb. Then it was just a stream of bodies - the guy with his head blown
off, the little boys so small you don't even need a stretcher for them, and
old women - carried off into ambulances which every single time were shot at
by the Israelis directly on the driver's side of the windshield. Ambulances
turned back at checkpoints.

Throughout this Intifada/Israeli Siege, what I witnessed was an
overwhelmingly nonviolent struggle within civil society for justice. Every
one of the endless demonstrations I attended began as marches with signs,
banners and chants. The Israelis shot first every single time before any
rocks were thrown. Rocks - thrown at armored jeeps' seldom hit fenders -
stones that are a symbolic way of saying, "We will resist our oppression,
even if you have a tank and I have a rock."

In fact, the Israeli soldiers even shot at some of our demonstrations when
we were singing "we shall overcome" and no stones were thrown even after the
Israeli soldiers began and continued to shoot us! Every night I went to
sleep to the sound of shells falling on the nearby school for blind
children. I walked to do my shopping past 10-year-old boys with patches over
their eyes. How come all of them in the eye? Accident? That's quite a
sharp-shooting accident.

The death toll for the Israelis is about 100, the death toll for the
Palestinians about 600. Numbers cannot reflect the losses. The Pales-tinians
also have about 20,000 wounded civilians, some in critical condition and
many permanently disabled while hospitals are being attacked and medical
clinics destroyed. I had to walk through streets of crippled people, through
the human traffic of funerals, which become demonstrations, which become
more funerals, just to get a can of soda.

And that's just Area A.

Area A is like a vacation. Don't know what that is?
Learn your ABCs. I'll be happy to help you. Then maybe we can have a
conversation. In Areas B and C - where the majority of people live in
villages completely surrounded by clusters of Israeli settlements such as
Ariel, which even within Barak's generous offer were set to remain
permanently, in order to maintain permanent military bases - life is much
worse. The children cannot breathe. The tear gas day and night being thrown
at their windows has damaged their respiratory systems, maybe irrevocably at
this point. I have even tried to scream at the soldiers pleading, "the
children are being taken to the hospital." But then they shot at me so I ran
back inside the house I was visiting.

Night and day there are settlers attacking, backed up by soldiers, shooting
into the villages and screaming "Death to the Arabs," burning down property,
even marching into schools in broad daylight and shooting the kids. The
soldiers shot my friend in the middle of the day while he was standing
outside his house bringing the kids inside as the troops stomped through the
village. They threw a stun grenade into his brother's face and then pointed
an M-16 at his head and threatened to shoot anyone who would try to bring my
friend to an emergency medical vehicle. It took 30 minutes before he was
permitted to be taken to a hospital. Now he is paralyzed.

This is only a partial list of what I have witnessed in the past eight
months. What is happening is called ethnic cleansing. The death toll in
baseball terms may be 100 to 600, but this isn't baseball. The figures do
not describe the conditions of life the Palestinians are living under, which
is a fabric torn from the seams of hell that you cannot imagine without
knowing it firsthand. One side goes out dancing in nightclubs when it gets
dark (a nightclub right next to the Russian compound where Palestinian
detainees are being interrogated and tortured while listening to people
laughing and drinking an

[CTRL] Gay Conspiracy Against Muslims?

[Yardbird]

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Dear Brothers and Sisters in Islam,

A time of great calamity is dawning upon us.  This time it is not from the
Serbs but from our own ranks.  Like the Jews of Turkey who converted to
Islam during the latter part of the Ottoman rule, to gain positions of
power and destroy Islam from within, a certain group of people have joined
ranks to discredit Islam.  This group of Munafiqeens are openly saying
that homosexuality is not haram.  They are going to launch their campaign
in Los Angeles in the United States during a Gay Festival.  They are also
launching a video and will start a publicity campaign shortly.

For some, after the demise of Communism, Islam is the greatest threat.
All the forces that brought about the fall of Communism are now positioned
against Islam.

The punishment prescribed in Islam for anyone who openly professes to be a
homosexual is clear to all believers.  In Islam 'Hadd' or publicly
ordained punishments are for sins committed openly.  When a person openly
commits a sin for which Allah (swt) has ordained a public punishment it
becomes the duty of the Muslim ruler to punish him.  But any sin done in
private is a matter that the doer has to resolve with Allah(swt) through
repentance.

We are well aware who is behind this group of people.  Anonymous
contributions are swelling their coffers.  Like the Ahmadis (Qadianis)
they have powerful backers.

This is a great test for the Ummah and for those who are inclined to
accept Islam as their way of life in the future.

How can we stop this calamity?

Firstly let us make regular dua to save us from the Munafiqeens.

Secondly let us tell all believers that the followers of the great Munafiq
Abdullah Ibn Saba who brought death and destruction during the Caliphate
of Othman (RA) are in action again.  Abdullah Ibn Saba the great Munafiq
succeeded in breaking the Muslims into groups and eventually brought about
the division of the Muslims into Sunnis and Shias.  But this group in the
USA has a much greater mission: that of destroying Islam and disgracing
the Muslims in the eyes of the non believers.  AND THIS THEY THINK IS THE
ONLY WAY TO STOP THE SPEED AT WHICH ISLAM IS SPREADING IN THE WEST.

Thirdly let us mount a publicity campaign, individually and in groups, to
expose these bogus "Muslims".  This is our Jihad.  Let us not take it
lightly.

Let us protect the honour of our Deen.

Salams

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Re: [CTRL] July 4th! The Birthday of America

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>John Adams believed that the Fourth of July should become a religious
>holiday

Actually, he believed that July 2nd would become the day we celebrated
independence...


>In 1837, when he was 69 years old,

That would have made him 18 years old in 1776...

I believe Adams would have been EIGHTY-nine years old in 1837, not
SIXTY-nine...


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Re: [CTRL] Palast: Why the Lights Went Out All Over California

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

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In a message dated 07/03/2001 4:22:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Or had it? It's true that in December, lights went out all over
  California. Power plants there run on natural gas and the price of
  the stuff had mysteriously risen by 1,000 per cent in a single
  week. This is odd given that over the state border at a pipeline
  switching center called the Henry Hub, there was natural gas
  aplenty at a fragment of the price. >>

It is really interesting.  Try reading Alexander Cockburn's article "The
People's Power" in the 16 July copy of The Nation.   Prudy

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[CTRL] Did You Know That...

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Did You Know That…

•  Americans use guns in self-defense up to 3.6 million times each year?


•  In 98 percent of those cases, the criminal flees at the mere sight of the
gun?

• The criminal succeeds in taking the gun from his intended victim in only
one percent of those cases?

•  Studies have shown that the more guns honest citizens own, the lower the
crime rate – with violent crime dropping about 4 percent for each 1 percent
rise in gun ownership?

• The most dramatic reductions in crime have occurred in states passing laws
that allow honest citizens to carry concealed weapons?

• You are far more likely to get mugged, raped, burglarized or shot in
America’s big cities today – where gun laws are strict – than on the old
western frontier, where virtually everyone carried a gun?

• During the frontier era, the combined murder rate in Dodge City, Abilene,
Ellsworth, Wichita, and Caldwell – all wide-open cattle towns – was less
than two murders per year for all five towns combined?

• Violent crime today is concentrated overwhelmingly among inner-city
minorities – with African-Americans committing murder at 8 times the rate of
whites?

• The rate of gun murders among white U.S. teenagers is roughly the same as
among teenagers in Canada?

• The most heavily armed nation in the world, per capita, is Switzerland?

• Switzerland also has one of the lowest crime rates in the world?

• England and Australia both experienced dramatic increases in violent crime
after confiscating guns from honest citizens?

• Australia and England were ranked the first and second worst countries in
the industrialized world – in that order – in terms of violent crime,
according to the February 2001 International Crime Victims Survey, released
by Leiden University in Holland?

• The United States did not even make the top 10 list of Leiden University’s
International Crime Victims Survey?

Of course you didn’t know these things. How could you?

A recent study by the Media Research Center shows that television news
stories calling for stricter gun laws outnumber those opposing such laws by a
ratio of ten to one. When it comes to guns and gun laws, we are hearing only
one side of the story.

To hear the other side, read The Seven Myths of Gun Control by Richard Poe.


Richard Poe is editor of David Horowitz’s Web site FrontPageMagazine.com and
SlapHillary.com.



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Re: [CTRL] Running on Empty

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<< Slobo inherited a lot of problems.  >>

What he really inherited was a country on the verge of an old fashioned
American style success.  Yugoslavia had a diverse population (both in ethnic
background and religion) that spoke a common language and which had learned
to get along together, mainly because Tito insisted on it and it had become a
way of life.  Yugoslavia had rich natural resources which, if judiciously
used, could have brought a good income.  Yugoslavia had a fine sea coast with
islands for fishing and swimming, and some really great places to ski.
Affluent tourists were beginning to go there. There were lovely cities,
lovely food and wonderful music.  Unfortunately Yugoslavia had a big military
presence and a lot of armament.  It was all in Beograd.   Of course, there
were the old rancors too, and with a bit of luck, these could escalate.
Divide and conquer has always worked.  That was the only inheritance "Slobo"
cared about.  So by wallowing in the mire of the past, Yugoslavia lost her
chance at a glorious future.  Slobo was a short sighted bum.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Israeli's blow up homes..leave 500 homeless

[flw]

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JULY 04, 06:09 EST

Israel Ignores U.S. Criticism
http://wire.ap.org/?SLUG=ISRAEL%2dPALESTINIANS

By MARK LAVIE
Associated Press Writer
---
  JERUSALEM (AP) - Pleading self-defense, Israeli officials said they plan
to continue singling out Palestinian militants for killing despite criticism
from the U.S. State Department.

Israel's security Cabinet, a body of 16 senior ministers, were to meet
Wednesday to discuss Israel's response to violence that has not been
stopped by a cease-fire worked out three weeks ago by CIA director
George Tenet.

(SNIP)

Since the Tenet agreement was concluded June 13, 16 Palestinians
have been killed.

``The Israelis are the ones who violate it,'' Palestinian leader Yasser
Arafat said during a brief visit to Cairo, Egypt. ``We are passing
through a very dangerous period.''

Foreign Minister Shimon Peres said the cease-fire is in ``a profound
crisis and everything has to be done to save it.'' He also called for
immediate dismantling of illegal settlement outposts in the West Bank.
Refusing would be a ``first-class political mistake. It focuses attention
on an issue on which the world is united against us,'' he said.

A report by an international commission aimed at restarting peace
talks calls on Israel to freeze all settlement construction after violence
is halted. Israel has accepted the plan, but Sharon has not committed
to the freeze or to dismantling the outposts.

An Israeli shepherd killed late Monday in an isolated part of the West
Bank was buried Tuesday. Israeli forces closed off the area where
he was killed. Human rights groups charged that the Israeli military
blew up caves where 500 Palestinians live, leaving them homeless.

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Re: [CTRL] CNN: Condit denies urging anyone to mislead in Levy case

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>Police originally said she disappeared April 30, but an analysis of the
>laptop computer in Levy's apartment found she sent an e-mail message on May
>1, the source said. She was last reported seen April 30 at her Washington
>gym.

As I mentioned in a previous post, the only thing this shows is that an
email was sent from the computer on that date...it doesn't show WHO was
sitting at the computer sending the message purporting to be from Levy.

Somehow this girl disappeared from a highly secured apartment building,
with no trace recorded on the 24-hour video recording system in the
building.  If it was possible to remove Levy with no trace, it is just as
possible for someone else to enter and leave the apartment without
leaving a trace...


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: At Arraignment, Milosevic Mocks His U.N. Accusers

[Bill Howard]

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In a message dated 7/4/01 6:14:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  it is not a war against

AIDS it is a war against childrenUN sponsored. >>

No, Saba. It's a drive to reduce the population on a world wide scale. The
UN, etc does not want a surplus population, these are unmanageable. They want
just enough units to keep the society running smoothly so that the lights,
A/C and water are on in their manions.
Just enough to keep the infastructure up and running. The children in the
words of that infamious terrorist, are just collateral damage.

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[CTRL] Fwd: At Arraignment, Milosevic Mocks His U.N. Accusers

[Aleisha Saba]

Hey what about Clinton and his war against humanity and  his war against
Waco  = it would  seem that the sale of HIV/AIDS blood which ended up
around the world at the time of the advent of AIDS speaks for itself.

GAY PRIDE now marches the streets having assumed the pose of a Gay Moses
march to their promised land and they meet in communist heaquarters
around the world, and Paula Poundstone - what is this lesbian or
whatever she is, is she not a symbol of the UN attempt to slaughter the
innocents by corrupting their bodies with AIDS - it is not a war against
AIDS it is a war against childrenUN sponsored.

Note the Serbs pretty upset about queers running the streets but take a
good look at the USA and see your future - UN started the War against
the Children.   Rosie O'Donnell and Paula Poundstone on PBS?

Paul wasn't laughing yesterday for her crimes against the children - War
Crimes against the chilren.

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July 4, 2001
THE OVERVIEW
At Arraignment, Milosevic Mocks His U.N. Accusers
By ROGER COHEN with MARLISE SIMONS

 Reuters Slobodan Milosevic at the war crimes tribunal on Tuesday in The
Hague, flanked by United Nations guards.
  Milosevic Rejects Court
Albanians Say Trying Top Leaders Isn't Enough (July 4, 2001)
The Briton in Charge: Sober, Polite, and Tough (July 4, 2001)
Text: Milosevic Brings Air of Scorn to Tribunal (July 4, 2001)
Case Against Milosevic Is Not Simple to Prove (July 2, 2001)
Milosevic Is Given to U.N. for Trial in War-Crime Case (June 29, 2001)
Join a Discussion on Instability in the Balkans
HE HAGUE, July 3 — Slobodan Milosevic appeared today before an
international tribunal that has accused him of crimes against humanity,
and he dismissed the court with disdain as an "illegal organ."
Jutting chin raised contemptuously, Mr. Milosevic sat flanked by two
guards before seven empty chairs intended for his lawyers. The former
Serbian leader, who plunged the Balkans into four brutal ethnic wars,
chose to appear without counsel and to deliver his own rebuttal, in
English: "I consider this tribunal false tribunal and indictments false
indictments." [Text, Page A7.]
Mr. Milosevic's isolation today, 12 years after the wave of Serbian
nationalist sentiment that he had ignited swept him to power, gave added
drama to the courtroom confrontation as he sat facing a black-robed
prosecution team led by Carla Del Ponte. The battle between the West and
its longtime Balkan nemesis was stripped to its essentials.
On one side was Mrs. Del Ponte, a Swiss lawyer who has accused Mr.
Milosevic of three counts of crimes against humanity, including murder;
on the other, the bristling Serbian nationalist mocking "this so- called
tribunal." Between them sat a British judge, Richard May, seeking to
remind the accused of procedure.
For a long time, Mr. Milosevic bent Serbia to his whim. Today, largely
rejected by a country he impoverished and led into wars that left
200,000 people dead, he stood as the first head of state indicted before
an international court for crimes committed while he was in office.
Outright contempt greeted all the requests from Judge May for answers to
his questions. Asked if he wanted to exercise his right to have the
54-page indictment read to him, Mr. Milosevic shot back, "That's your
problem." The indictment was not read.
When asked if he would enter a plea of guilty or not guilty to the
charges of crimes against humanity in Kosovo in 1999, Mr. Milosevic
switched to Serbian from his heavily accented English and replied, "This
trial's aim is to produce false justification for the war crimes of
NATO," a reference to the bombing of Kosovo and Serbia in 1999.
After repeating the question, Judge May declared, "We treat your
response as a failure to enter a plea and we shall enter a plea of not
guilty on each count on your behalf."
In this way, the 12-minute proceedings, held in a small gray-carpeted
room behind bulletproof glass, moved toward their conclusion. Three
times, Judge May cut off Mr. Milosevic, the former president of both
Yugoslavia and Serbia, its largest republic, in midsentence, once
commenting, "Mr. Milosevic, this is not the time for speeches."
Today's action, while intense, seemed to frustrate the dark-suited Mr.
Milosevic by its brevity. Looking at his watch 

Re: [CTRL] Worldwide Recession Now Hits Mexico

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<< AHHH. You've finally come to your senses. You've become an
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[CTRL] Toward Real Federalism

[Tito Hammond]

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The Free Market

August 1995
Volume 13, Number 8



Toward Real Federalism
Clyde N. Wilson


Just a few years ago we had a bicentennial celebration of the Constitution.
Republicanism and federalism, the two most salient features of the
Constitution, were never mentioned. Instead we had a glorification of
multiculturalism and the central state.

Federalism is one of the least understood, both theoretically and
practically, of all political forms. Today we hear talk of restoring
federalism and decentralized government. But we must beware of phony forms of
top-down federalism that will be invented by cornered politicians.

Federalism is not when the central government graciously allows the states to
do this or that. That is just another form of administration. True federalism
is when the people of the states set limits to the central government.

Fundamentally, federalism means states rights. The cause of states rights is
the cause of liberty. They rise or fall together. If we had been able to
maintain the real union of sovereign states founded by our forefathers, then
there would not be, could not be, the imperial central state that we suffer
under today.

The loss of states rights is coterminous with the rise of the American
empire, where a vast proportion of the citizens' wealth is engrossed by
bureaucracy; where our personal and local affairs are ever more minutely and
inflexibly managed by a remote power; where our resources are squandered
meddling in the affairs of distant peoples.

That happy old Union was a friendly contract--the states managing their own
affairs, joined together in matters of defense, and enjoying free trade among
themselves. Indeed, enjoying free trade with the world, because the
Constitution, as is sometimes forgotten, required all taxes to be uniform
throughout the Union and absolutely forbade taxation of the exports of any
state. The federal government was empowered to lay a modest customs duty to
raise revenue for its limited tasks, but otherwise had no power to restrict
or assist enterprises.

That is what the States United meant to our Founders, a union of mutual
consent and support. It did not mean a government that dictated the
arrangement of every parking lot in every public and private building in
every town, and the kind of grass that a citizen must plant around his boat
dock.

It did not mean the incineration of women and children who might have aroused
the ire of a rogue federal police force, unknown to the Constitution and
armed as for a foreign enemy. It did not mean that billions would be spent
restoring oriental despots to their thrones in distant lands. Had George
Washington been confronted with any of these things, he would have reached
for his sword.

We know the problems. Where should we look for solutions? Thomas Jefferson
gives us the answer: our most ancient and best tradition, states rights. In
his first inaugural Jefferson remarked that in most ways Americans were very
happily situated, and then asked, "What more is necessary to make us a happy
and prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow citizens---a wise and
frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which
shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits." This
government "shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread that it has
earned. This is the sum of good government."

But how to preserve this form of government? What should we do, or not do?
Jefferson answered: preserve elections (not the party system), maintain equal
justice under the law, rely on the militia, avoid debt, maintain the freedom
of speech, religion, and trial by jury, avoid entangling alliances. And most
important: "the support of the state governments in all their rights, as the
most competent administrations for our domestic concerns and the surest
bulwarks against anti-republican tendencies."

There is a large sophistical literature which tells us that states rights was
for Jefferson just a temporary expedient for other goals. This is false. For
his own generation and several following, it was understood that the state
sovereignty of the Kentucky resolutions was Jefferson's primary platform as
an American leader.

John C. Calhoun, speaking in exactly the same tradition a generation later,
said: "We contend, that the great conservative principle of our system is in
the people of the States, as parties to the Constitutional compact." Without
"a full practical recognition of the rights and sovereignty of the States,
our union and liberty must perish."

Why are states rights the last best bulwark of our liberties? It is a
question of the sovereignty of the people---in which we all profess to
believe. Every political community has a sovereign, an ultimate authority.
The sovereign may delegate functions (as the states did to the federal
government) though not alienate authority. It may not always rule from day to
day, but it is that place in the society that has the l

[CTRL] Bowdlerizing C.S.Lewis

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Bowdlerizing C.S. Lewis
by Joseph Sobran
During the Victorian era, the prevailing delicacy of the age inspired Dr.
Thomas Bowdler and his sister to edit Shakespeare’s plays to make them
suitable for "family reading." All off-color jokes and sexual matter were
removed. The word "bowdlerize" entered the language as a synonym for militant
prudery.

Today it appears that a new species of bowdlerization is afoot. It seems that
HarperCollins has acquired the right to republish C.S. Lewis’s seven classic
children’s books about the land of Narnia – and to edit out their Christian
content. Apparently the idea is to reshape the stories on the model of the
hugely successful (non-Christian) Harry Potter stories, and to market toys
based on the Narnia characters, also on the Potter model.

In a leaked HarperCollins memo, a corporation executive offers "emphatic
assurances that no attempt will be made to correlate the stories to Christian
imagery/theology."

It’s almost unbelievable. De-Christianizing the works of one of the greatest
Christian authors of the twentieth century? The Narnia stories owe their
artistry and power to Lewis’s way of infusing the Christian message into
simple tales about children and a lion named Aslan. The lion, an awesome and
thrilling character, represents Christ.

How Aslan can be suitably watered down for secularized "family reading"
remains to be seen. Any such attempt is bound to destroy the point and energy
of the Narnia books. You might as well try to edit God and Satan out of
Paradise Lost.

Usually we revere a great author’s intentions and artistic integrity; but
when it comes to Christianity, such considerations may be sacrificed to
higher values, such as "multiculturalism" and – oh yes – money.

Lewis would be outraged and sickened by this compromise of his work. Are the
keepers of his estate willing to sell him out to the very secularist forces
he fought with all his genius? Can they betray his trust so shamelessly?

Maybe editing Aslan down to modern scale is a job for the Jesus Seminar,
which is devoted to editing the Gospels by deleting any sayings that sound
too Christian. One excellent reason for believing in Christ is that after
2,000 years he is still as troubling to the conscience as he was in his own
time. If he can be reduced to a bland moral teacher, whose doctrine is
indistinguishable from modern political platforms, he becomes much safer and
easier to sell. Whole denominations are based on adapting Jesus to the Latest
Thinking.

Lewis’s fictional adaptation of Christ is another matter. Aslan is not a
watered-down substitute for Christ, but a spiritually challenging figure who
conveys, even to adult readers, some of the wonder of the Original. He seems
to be more than the flesh of HarperCollins can bear.

Lewis always insisted that a good children’s story can’t be just a
dumbed-down version of a story for adults. It has to be a good read for
adults too. He liked the analogy of a string quartet, which uses fewer of the
orchestra’s resources than the symphony, but is just as demanding in its own
way. Children, in fact, are more apt than adults to stop reading a story when
they find it dull.

This respect for children made Lewis a great children’s author, as well as a
great author for adults. I never read the Narnia stories until I was in my
20s, and I was overwhelmed by their inherent power. I still reread them, as I
reread Lewis’s other works. They are all of a piece.

The notion that any editor can "improve" Lewis’s works is a presumption
worthy of the Bowdlers. But in an age that regards nothing as obscene, the
energies of censorship are turned against unseemly expressions of
Christianity. One wonders whether the unexpurgated Narnia stories will remain
available. Perhaps there will be an adults-only edition?

Aslan’s message to children (and adults) is a stern but loving one: You must
change. This sets the Narnia stories apart from all the children’s books that
are merely adventures, with merely external foes and monsters, however
dangerous or malevolent or spooky. In Narnia, no enemy can truly threaten a
child without the child’s spiritual cooperation.

Has this profoundly Christian message been lost on the Lewis estate?

July 4, 2001

Joe Sobran is a nationally syndicated columnist. He also writes "Washington
Watch" for The Wanderer, a weekly Catholic newspaper, and edits SOBRAN'S, a
monthly newsletter of his essays and columns.

Get a free copy of Joe Sobran's lecture, "How Tyranny Came to America" by
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[CTRL] Independence Day in Perspective

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Independence Day in Perspective
by Thomas J. DiLorenzo

To many Americans the Fourth of July is just another day off, a picnic, and
some fireworks. It is my favorite holiday because, unlike so many Americans,
I haven’t forgotten what we’re celebrating: independence from tyrannical
government. The July 4, 1776 Declaration of Independence, one of the defining
documents of our nation’s existence, is better thought of as a Declaration of
Secession, since the Revolutionary War that it started was a war of secession
from the government of England. America was born with an act of secession
which, until 1865, was considered to be one our most cherished freedoms.

Perhaps the most famous section of the Declaration, authored by Thomas
Jefferson, is the list of the "train of abuses" perpetrated by King George
III on the colonists. This very same train of abuse was heaped upon the
citizens of the Southern states from 1861 until the end of "Reconstruction"
in 1877, and applies to some degree more or less universally today. Consider
the words of the Declaration:

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly
firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long
time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected.

Lincoln imposed military rule on those parts of the South that were conquered
territory during the war, and the Southern states were governed by Republican
party-appointed military dictatorships for twelve years after the war.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone.

By suspending the writ of habeas corpus, ignoring U.S. Supreme Court Chief
Justice Roger B. Taney’s ruling that only Congress could constitutionally
suspend habeas corpus, and threatening to prosecute state judges who
permitted criminal prosecutions of federal government officials to go
forward, Lincoln effectively trumped the judiciary.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers
to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

Myriad new bureaucracies were created to run the militarily-occupied states
during and after the War for Southern Independence. General Benjamin Butler
famously harassed the people of New Orleans by hanging a man for merely
taking down a U.S. flag and declaring that any woman who did not display
proper respect for federal soldiers would be considered a prostitute. Other
military officers were just as harassing. Federal armies pillaged, plundered,
and sacked their way through the southern states for four years, and Lincoln
supported several "confiscation" bills that allowed them to plunder private
property (but not slaves).

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent
of our legislatures.

The federal army occupied Maryland in 1861 so that the legislature (most of
which was thrown into military prison) could not meet to discuss secession.
The other border states were under military occupation for the duration of
the war, as was the entire South for twelve years after the war.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the
Civil Power.

By suspending habeas corpus, Lincoln ordered the military to arrest and
imprison virtually all opposition newspaper editors, supported an "indemnity
act" that prohibited state judges from allowing the prosecution of military
officers for criminal acts, and effectively nationalized the judiciary at
gunpoint.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our
constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws, giving his Assent to their Acts
of pretended legislation.

Lincoln suspended constitutional liberty in the North for the duration of his
presidency. He launched a military invasion without congressional consent;
declared martial law; blockaded the Southern ports; suspended habeas corpus;
imprisoned without trial thousands of Northern citizens for favoring peace
over war; imprisoned newspaper publishers and editors who criticized him;
censored all telegraph communication; nationalized the railroads; created
several new states without the consent of the citizens of those states;
ordered federal troops to interfere in elections by intimidating Democratic
voters; deported an opposition member of Congress, Clement L. Vallandigham of
Ohio; confiscated private property, including firearms; and essentially
gutted the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Constitution. This was all
indeed "foreign" to Thomas Jefferson’s constitution.

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us.

Federal troops were quartered in the border states and in various parts of
the South during the war and the twelve years of "Reconstruction."

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world.

The Constitution prohibits blockades except for in wartime and against a
foreign power. But Lincoln never conceded that the Southern states were a
"foreign power" or the war as anything but a "rebellion."

Fo

[CTRL] Fwd: Thomas Jefferson Forever

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 By Dave Kopel
 
 The greatest writer of the early American republic, and the greatest
 exponent of natural rights and the dangers of government power was Thomas
 Jefferson. It is no wonder then, that Jefferson has been so aggressively
 vilified by the partisans of political correctness. Jefferson was likewise
 disdained by many in the 19th and early 20th century who, quite correctly,
 saw his ideas as an obstacle to the large national regime they wished to
 build.
 
 How sad it is to that the current occupant of the White House bears the
 middle name "Jefferson" -- even though the real Jefferson taught his nephew
 Peter Carr: "Nothing is so mistaken as the supposition that a person is to
 extricate himself from a difficulty, by intrigue, by chicanery, by
 dissimulation, by trimming an untruth, by an injustice. It is of great
 importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth."
 
 Thomas Jefferson would not be surprised at the degenerate character of the
 childish man who currently disgraces the Jefferson name. For "There is no
 vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible and he who permits himself to tell
 a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at
 length it becomes habitual, he tells lies without attending to it. This
 falsehood of tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its
 good dispositions."
 
 But this column is about another Jeffersonian virtue which William Jefferson
 Clinton has attempted to destroy: the virtue of arms, and all that it
 entails about the relationship between the people and their government.
 
 In the same 1785 letter to nephew Peter Carr (who was also Jefferson's
 ward), Jefferson advised the fifteen-year-old about building character
 through the shooting sports: "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the
 species exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to
 the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independence to the mind. Games
 played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body
 and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore by the constant
 companion of your walks."
 
 Jefferson's views on the importance of arms for youth remained strong two
 decades later, as expressed in his 1818 Report of the Commissioners of the
 University of Virginia: "the manual exercise, military maneuvers, and
 tactics generally, should be the frequent exercise of the students, in their
 hours of recreation."
 
 It might not have surprised Jefferson to learn that a people who never
 learned to hunt while growing up, and whose main connection with sports was
 watching them as passive spectators through a passive medium (television),
 might not develop the boldness and independence of mind to want real
 independence and responsibility in their own lives. Instead, they would
 prefer the comfortable servitude of a nanny state run by people like the
 Clintons.
 
 Of course the benefits of early training in arms extended to more than good
 character. As Jefferson pointed out to Giovanni Fabbroni in 1778, the
 Americans had a lower  casualty rate than the Redcoats. "This difference is
 ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our
 army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
 
 Even so, Americans were not as well-armed as Jefferson wished. The only book
 Jefferson ever wrote was Notes on the State of Virginia (1782), in which he
 explained the arms shortage that had developed during the Revolutionary War:
 
 "The law requires every militia-man to provide himself with arms usual in
 the regular service. But this injunction was always indifferently complied
 with, and the arms they had have been so frequently called to arm the
 regulars, that in the lower parts of the country they are 

Re: [CTRL] 2nd Amendment haiku

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<< buy meat from market
gun is for shooting tyrant
housebreaker eat lead >>

Not bad. Not bat at all.

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Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

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<< Stop smoking so much though, you're starting to sound paranoid and nasty.
It tends to
do that if you smoke too much, but you cannot accept that because your
favorite drug is
perfect and the more you smoke to excess. the more deranged you become. But
it is
natural so it must be good. >>

The Answer is simple, don't do those things that make you paranoid and
otherwise crazy.

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