[CTRL] NM: Condit: The Noose Tightens

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/10/72227.shtml


Condit: The Noose Tightens
John LeBoutillier
Tuesday July 10, 2001


It should be getting harder for Gary Condit to swallow this morning.
The Feds are clearly circling him - and getting ready to escalate the
pressure.

1) The 'Flight Attendant - Anne Marie Smith - and her lawyer are jetting
into Ronald Reagan National Airport today to sit down with the US Attorney.
That means that this will ultimately be a Federal case.

It also means that the US Attorney may be eyeing an indictment for
obstruction of justice. That indictment would enable authorities to really
get a total look at Condit: phone records, bank records, search his car and
any cars he may have borrowed and search his apartment.

Even though Abbe Lowell says that Condit will turn over anything the
cops/Feds ask for, you can bet your bippy that he will fight hard not to
turn over anything incriminating.

For example, we now learn that right up to last week Condit has been on the
phone to Anne Marie urging/begging/threatening her not to cooperate with
authorities. Does this sound like someone ready to cooperate fully with
the investigation?

2) Her latest revelation that Condit is into deviant, auto erotic sex
only
makes him more likely to be involved in Chandra Levy's disappearance.

3) Which brings us to the case of Joyce Chang. You may recall that in May,
when Chandra's disappearance first made the news, there were stories about
Chang's disappearance from the same neighborhood two years ago. Her brother
led a candle light vigil for his late sister, whose body was found months
after her disappearance floating in the Potomac River. No one has ever been
arrested in this case.

This case was briefly mentioned on Meet The Press on Sunday. But, it turns,
out Chang was also an intern. She worked for Congressman Howard Berman -
also a Democrat from California.

Could it be that Condit knew Chang?

Could there be a serial killer in the House?

Are the Feds trying to link these two cases?

4) Despite the TV chatter about the so-called ineptitude of the DC cops on
this case, there is now so much media attention that the investigating
authorities are totally focused on this case.

5) And, if the Bush/Ashcroft Justice Department has its act in gear, they
should smell blood in the water here. If the truth forces Condit to resign
his seat, the GOP can win it in a special election. That district has a
conservative bent and has been Condit's only because of his long career
there. But in a House with a tiny majority for the Republicans, every seat
counts. Picking up that seat - in a state now completely dominated by the
Democrats - would be a great coup for the Republicans.

6) The Chandra Levy Case also is a marvelous example of the power of the
media - especially the three all-news cable networks. Led by the Fox News
Channel, the cable nets have propelled this case into the hearts and minds
of millions of Americans who otherwise would never have heard of Chandra or
Condit. Even the three broadcast networks - slow to get going on this
story - have lately joined the fray.

If this case is ever to be solved, it will be because the media forced it
down the throats of a reluctant, lazy, diffident and indifferent law
enforcement establishment in Washington.

Let us all pray for Chandra - and for the truth.

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[CTRL] NM: Chinese Navy preparing to invade Taiwan

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/7/9/171703.shtml

General Ding's letter and PLA Defense Industry Directory

http://www.softwar.net/pladir.html

Chinese Navy preparing to invade Taiwan

PLA Navy build-up feared as preluded to war

By Charles R. Smith


The PLA Navy is currently designed not to win at sea but to enable the
Chinese Army to take Taiwan. The PLA Navy is intended to neutralize a U.S.
fleet deployed in distant waters, while supporting a PLA war on Asian soil.

All they have to do is go 100 miles, not 10,000 miles, stated one
intelligence official that asked not to be identified.

In support of the land-based strategy, the PLA Navy recently acquired two
Russian made Soveremennyy Destroyers armed with nuclear tipped SS-N-22
Sunburn cruise missiles. In addition, China has added two newly built Luhu
and two Luhai destroyers, both armed with C-801 cruise missiles.

However, U.S. Intelligence officials all agree that the future Chinese
threat will come from under the sea. In May, a PLA Navy Ming-class attack
submarine conducted secret underwater operations for more than a month
without being detected by U.S.
forces.

The Ming submarine left the port of Qingdao on the Yellow Sea, opposite
South Korea, and was observed by satellite returning 31 days later. The
diesel-electric Ming class boat is equipped with anti-ship cruise missiles
and can lay advanced torpedo homing mines.

PLA SUBS THREATEN U.S. HOMELAND

More disturbing is the fact that the Ming-class subs will soon be replaced
by a new generation of Chinese nuclear attack submarines designated Type
093. Chinese Type 093 atomic subs could easily prowl off the Pacific and
the Atlantic coasts of the United States. Intelligence officials confirmed
the first Type 093 nuclear attack submarine becomes operational in 2002.

Looks like the (Type) 093 is an 02 operation, stated the intelligence
official. The (Type) 094 might be an 04 job.

The 093 will be a potent attack sub, noted the Pentagon source. Armed wi
th LACMs (Land Attack Cruise Missiles) the 093 will also be capable of
limited power projection.

The PLA Navy is also building a new class of Type 094 ballistic-missile
submarines. These much larger submarines are similar to the Russian Delta
class missile boats that patrolled off the U.S. coasts during the Cold War.
Each Type 094 is armed with sixteen long-range DF-31 missiles, capable of
showering any city inside the United States with nuclear bombs.

They will be potent platforms when they emerge, asserted the Pentagon
source.

The 094 SSBNs will likely be designed to operate from the Yellow Sea area,
which will force the PLAN to focus on the surface ships and aircraft to
defend a 'Bastion' in the Soviet sense as developed by the late Admiral
Sergei Gorshkov.

PLA NAVY INC.

The Chinese military is not the only sea borne force being upgraded by
Beijing. China is also seeking to dominate the commercial waves globally.
China currently has nearly 20% of all export orders for new ships. By 2010,
the China State Shipbuilding Company, or CSSC, will triple yard output and
claim over 50% of global ship commercial construction orders.

Yet, CSSC is owned and operated by the People's Liberation Army Navy. There
is no question that western technical and financing assistance given to
CSSC commercial yards directly improved Chinese warship production.

Since 1990, ten of China's largest yards have acquired western computer
aided design and manufacture software. CSSC is currently using western
built TRIBON software to design and produce new warships. Since 1990,
CSSC has introduced a whole new generation of capable Chinese warships
including the Luhu and Luhai class destroyers.

CSSC reports to directly to the PLA unit known as COSTIND or the Commission
on Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense. It is worth
noting that in 2000, COSTIND declared shipbuilding a strategic industry.

COSTIND acquired advanced technology from Europe for the PLA Navy such as
French anti-aircraft systems and German engines for warships. In fact,
German designed diesel MTU-EV493 engines currently power all PLA Navy Song
class submarines. The engines are being built and installed on the advanced
Chinese submarines without license by CSSC.

ADVANCED U.S. SHIP TECHNOLOGY

COSTIND intelligence operations during the 1990s also included access to
advanced ship technology from the United States.
According to 1995 Chinese military documents, signed by COSTIND commanding
General Ding Henggao, China sought to import a vast array of amphibious
U.S. ship building technology.

The documents were obtained by Federal Court order from the U.S.
Commerce Dept. The PLA documents were distributed through General Ding's
personal contact inside the Clinton White House then U.S. Defense Secretary
William Perry.

According to the COSTIND documents, China wanted to buy a large scale
ocean air cushion vessel with side walls in sea (about 400 passengers), a

[CTRL] NM: Condit Girlfriend Saw Evidence of Sadomasochistic Sex

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/7/9/224338


NewsMax
Monday July 9, 2001; 11:43 p.m. EDT


Condit Girlfriend Saw Evidence of Sadomasochistic Sex

A lawyer for a former girlfriend of California Congressman Gary Condit said
late Monday that she saw evidence in Condit's apartment suggesting he
indulged in sadomasochistic sex practices that could be linked to the
disappearance of 24-year-old Washington, D.C. intern Chandra Levy.

Appearing on Fox News Channel's The Edge with Paula Zahn, attorney Jim
Robinson -- whose client Anne Marie Smith sent the Levy case into overdrive
a week ago with her bombshell allegation that Condit tried to get her to
lie about their affair -- told Zahn that what she saw frightened her into
thinking she might suffer the same fate as the missing intern.

ZAHN: What was your client so afraid of?

ROBINSON: There's already a missing girl. She didn't want to be the second
one.

ZAHN: Is there something Mr. Condit had said to her that made her feel
threatened about her own personal safety?

ROBINSON: Near the end of their relationship things started to really
disturb Anne Marie. She found what she believed to be Chandra's hair in his
bathroom. She saw other things of a sexual nature that she had nothing to
do with and was wondering what the -- what in the world is going on. And
then this woman disappears. She was terrified.

ZAHN: Can you elaborate for us when you say she discovered things of a
sexual nature that made her nervous? What do you mean by that?

ROBINSON: Apparently there were ties -- neckties tied together, tied
underneath the bed -- as if someone had been tied up in bed. And that had
never happened to my client before. And, apparently, Mr. Condit made a joke
about it, just brushed it off. And (Smith) told me that she was very afraid
for her life at that point.

ZAHN: Just seeing these ties wrapped around the bedpost? Or was there
something else that happened at night that made her nervous?

ROBINSON: She was very concerned about Mr. Condit's veracity near the end
of the relationship.

ZAHN: Now, did the relationship solely end because she suspected he was
involved with another woman? Or was there something else involved here?

ROBINSON: Well, the last time they saw each other was actually in April.
She didn't actually stop talking to Congressman Condit until about a week
and a half ago.

Zahn asked Robinson about his client's charges that Condit had coaxed her
to sign a false affidavit, which she refused to do, then returned to the
sadomasochistic sex shocker.

ZAHN: All right, let's come back to the last time your client described
that she was in Mr. Condit's apartment. She said she discovered what was
long hair and then what appeared to be some sort of -- ah -- perhaps
something indicative of something sadomasochistic that had happened in is
apartment. Ah -- what else did Anne Marie tell you about that?

ROBINSON: She found a new bottle of massage oil that had been used, which
he never used around her. She also knew that the congressman's wife had not
been around for quite some time. And all kinds of different things.

ZAHN: All right. So is she -- and I gotta make sure I understand this this
evening. I mean, other than -- people probably have all kinds of sexual
practices. This obviously was something that she wasn't comfortable with.
Was there something else that she described about his behavior that she
found intimidating or threatening in some way? Or whether it was his
veracity or what you describe as a lack of veracity that was exposed here?

ROBINSON: Ah -- I really don't want to get into it specifically as I've
been asked by criminal investigators not to. But apparently Congressman
Condit had some peculiar sexual fantasies that a normal heterosexual man
does not have. That's her testimony, not mine. And we've been asked not to
talk about that specifically. Um -- you know.

ZAHN: All right. And Jim, I'm obviously not in a position where I can
verify this at this point. There are people who are out there, as you know,
who are out there saying, OK, Mr. Robinson just left his law practice.
He's trying to get himself some new clients here. What can you say to them
tonight that proves you're not just fishing for some publicity here and
what you're saying isn't true.

ROBINSON: Paula, you know, I went back to law school after being an
investment banker, being a very successful investment banker for 20 years.
I went back for a specific case. That case is now taken care of.
I'm now going back into investment banking. I'm taking on this case for
Anne Marie and it's my only case right now. I'm pro-bono on it. I don't
want to do this for a living. But I've been around the block. I've been on
Wall Street. I was an officer in the Marine Corps.

And I was talking to Anne Marie last night and I said, Did you call me
because of the fact that I'm a good attorney or I'm an ex-Marine? And she
said, I think ex-Marine would be more accurate.


Re: [CTRL] Chinese Navy Prepares to Invade Taiwan

2001-07-11 Thread Michael Pugliese

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   Re: Chinese Navy Prepares to Invade Taiwan, Tue, 10 Jul 2001

Dr Byron Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I believe they will also devastate several cities along our West Coast.


   Did not happen then, either...
Michael Pugliese

- Original Message -
From: Byron Weeks
To: Bond
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 10:20 AM
Subject: IS WAR IMMINENT?



ISRAEL HAS JUST WARNED THE PA THAT IF THE TERRORISM DOES NOT STOP IN A FEW
DAYS, THEY WILL BEGIN A MASSIVE OFFENSIVE!!!


I believe that if and when it begins, [probably before the end of March] the
following is a likely scenario:


Israel will attack the well circumscribed Palestinian settlements and use
weapons that kill instantly, such as fuel-air bombs.
or beam weapons that have minimal side scatter, to avoid killing Jews
nearby. A suitcase nuke will explode in old Jerusalem, destroying the Al
Aqsa Mosque.


This will bring on retaliatory moves by Iraq and the other Moslem States,
including Iran. Israel will resort to nuclear weapons, especially neutron
bombs. Gog and Magog suffer heavy casualties.


Russia and China will join the attacks on Israel, and while the US is
pondering what to do, the coastal areas of North America will be bombed,
probably mainly with neutron bombs. Washington and New York will be hit with
either suitcase nukes or something worse. Our President and much of his
cabinet will be killed. The Pentagon, a Satanic symbol, will make an ideal
target. Congress will hide in the underground bunkers such as Greenbriar.


War will break out in Europe as Russia invades. Germany will try to take
over again. The Nazis will dominate German policies again.


More earthquakes and volcanic eruptions will be precipitated by the nuclear
bombs and continued use of HAARP.


Swarms of refugees will try to leave New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco
and they will die on the freeways by nerve gas and neutron bombs by the
thousands and millions... Las Vegas will be destroyed.


Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico, and China will invade the US through
Canada and Mexico, and from the Bahamas through the Gulf and Florida.
Foreign troops already within the country will begin to blow up the
infrastructure, and to poison the water reservoirs with botulism toxin.


US nuclear subs will devastate Eastern China,and... etc.


Since the exit routes will be jammed, it may be prudent to make plans to
leave the large coastal cities as or before it begins


btw

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[CTRL] UPI: Nightmares plague Republicans [more than Democrats], says study

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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Nightmares plague Republicans, says study

Monday, 9 July 2001 18:14 (ET)

BERKELEY, Calif., July 9 (UPI) -- Republicans have scarier and more
frequent nightmares than Democrats concludes one prominent dream
researcher.

Republicans are nearly three times as likely as Democrats to experience
nightmares when they dream, Kelly Bulkeley, who teaches at the Graduate
Theological Union in Berkeley, Calif., claims in findings to be released
Wednesday at the 18th Annual International Conference of the Association
for the Study of Dreams in Santa Cruz.

Half of the dreams of Republicans in my study were classified as
nightmares, compared to only about 18 percent of the dreams of Democrats,
Bulkeley reports.

While Republicans and Democrats may agree with the survey's results, they
are divided on the causes of the GOP's troubled sleep. Both parties,
however, blame the man at the top.

What do you expect after eight years of William Jefferson Clinton? Kevin
Sheridan, Republican National Committee deputy press secretary, told United
Press International from Washington.

If George W. Bush were the leader of my party, I'd have trouble sleeping
at night, too, Terry McAuliffe, Democratic National Committee chairman,
told UPI.

Sleeping Republicans also inhabit scarier dreamlands, according to Bulkeley
who is former president of the Association for the Study of Dreams and
author of The Wilderness of Dreams, An Introduction to the Psychology of
Dreaming.

Aggression, misfortune, and physical threats characterize Republican
nightmares, while familiar settings and friendly characters populate the
kinder, gentler bad dreams of Democrats.

Bulkeley also claims Democratic nightmares are tempered by the very
principals Democrats claim to espouse -- hope, power, and positive action.


My speculation is that people on the right are very attuned to the dangers
in the world, and they're seeking ways to defend themselves against those
threats, Bulkeley said in his paper. They're drawn to a political
ideology that favors things like a strong military and traditional moral
values. People on the left tend to be more utopian and open to the
possibility of going beyond the way things are now to how things could be
made better.

Terry McAuliffe told UPI his dreams of a better tomorrow come with a
fulfillment date certain:

On Election Day, 2004, we're going to elect a Democratic President and our
long national nightmare will be over.

For Republicans, according to Sheridan, the nightmares have finally passed:

Rest assured that with President George W. Bush in office, Republicans and
Democrats are both resting a lot easier.

Bulkeley said he was drawn to the subject of his latest study by what he
terms a different national nightmare -- the 2000 presidential election.

His paper, aptly entitled Nightmares and the 2000 Presidential Election,
focuses on the dreams of Republicans and Democrats during and after the
election and discusses new data on the differences in their dream content.

The dreams reflect, in both humorous and disturbing ways, the emotional
turmoil people experienced in response to the election, Bulkeley
explained.


While the election nightmare has long passed with favorable results for
Republicans, dreams populated by unfriendly faces still show up for them
now and again, according to Sheridan. We've always suspected Terry
McAuliffe was off in a dream land, he quipped

(Reported by UPI Science Correspondent Mike Martin in Washington.)

Copyright 2001 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.


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[CTRL] Chronicle Review: The Meta-Monica Mythology

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://chronicle.com/free/v47/i44/44b01101.htm

The Chronicle Review
(The Chronicle of Higher Education)
July 13, 2001 Issue
Section: The Chronicle Review
Page: B11

The Meta-Monica Mythology

By ELAINE SHOWALTER


Early in April, HBO invited professors and students from the New York area
to participate in taped interviews with Monica Lewinsky that will be the
basis for a documentary to be televised next January. While Lewinsky
herself had pitched the idea of a program about her recent years of
intense growth and perspective, Sheila Nevins, head of HBO's documentary
unit, had the idea of organizing it around academic discussions with
students of constitutional law, women's history, psychology, and American
history. It may be her journey, Nevins told The New York Times. But for
us, it's an investigative report. It's not just Monica: It's Monica in
history; it's Monica in privacy; it's Monica in trauma.

I had written about Lewinsky's trauma in an opinion piece in the Los
Angeles Times, and so I was among those contacted by HBO. On a warm spring
evening, I accompanied 23 Princeton undergraduates to one of the taped Q 
A sessions at Cooper Union, where Abraham Lincoln once spoke.

The Princeton students, most in my seminar on Conspiracy Theory, joined
about 150 law students who represented every kind of aspiring attorney --
from clones of Alan Dershowitz to My Cousin Vinny wannabes -- in asking
Lewinsky about her experiences since her affair with President Clinton.

Before the taping, we all signed confidentiality agreements barring any
public discussion of the content of the interview until the program airs,
and we had to go through metal detectors before we could begin.

But during the two-hour session, Lewinsky spoke without intermediaries,
moderators, or lawyers, and called on questioners herself. Sitting on the
edge of the stage like Liza Minnelli, tossing her thick black hair,
answering at length, laughing and crying, she mesmerized the audience.

As one of my students, Anne Griffin, later observed, It was a cross
between a Barbara Walters special, a Jerry Springer script, and a
sleepover -- a semi-lit room, a determination to tell all, one semi-diva at
the center of attention.

I was initially skeptical about the academic trappings of the program,
because Lewinsky's journey did not seem to require scholarly analysis.

But now, having read the recently published Our Monica, Ourselves: The
Clinton Affair and the National Interest (New York University Press), I see
that the staging was inevitable. As the book jacket notes, the affair
between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky now stands as the seminal cultural
event of the 90's.

Our Monica, Ourselves is a collection of essays edited by Lauren Berlant, a
professor of English and director of the Center for Gender Studies at the
University of Chicago, and Lisa Duggan, an associate professor of American
studies and history at N.Y.U. Not surprisingly, the Lewinsky affair has
produced diverse -- and sometimes conflicting -- analyses from the broad
spectrum of feminist and queer writers, progressive journalists and
activists, leftist scholars and cultural critics whom the editors asked to
contribute.

The book's title harks back to the feminist health guidebook Our Bodies,
Ourselves: A Book by and for Women, and links the Lewinsky case to the
history of American sexuality. But like previous cultural-studies
anthologies on the O. J. and Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas cases (and like
cultural studies itself), it also ranges widely, offering a field day of
critical ingenuity. Lewinsky herself gets the full Monica, the soup-to-nuts
cultural-studies treatment of the creation and reception of a
quintessential cultural icon. There are also essays on Linda Tripp, the
Starr report, porn parodies of the scandal (like Swallow the Leader), the
presidential penis, and the hypocrisy of television news.

Key issues include our culture's heteronormativity (a simultaneous
fascination with and aversion to explicit public descriptions of sex,
particularly sex other than married heterosexual intercourse); race,
ethnicity, and class; conspiracy theories; sexual politics; and ethics.

Several contributors stress Clinton's shape-shifting image in the affair,
the way he seemed to take on the attributes of various racial and sexual
minorities. His ability to be all things to all people, they suggest,
accounted both for his popularity and for the inchoate hate he attracted.
Toni Morrison was among the first to suggest (in The New Yorker) that
Clinton was metaphorically the first African-American president; here Tyler
Curtain, who teaches English and queer theory at the University of North
Carolina at Chapel Hill, adds that Clinton was also metaphorically the
first queer president, a lover of oral and anal sex who, significantly, was
compulsive about bestowing on friends and acquaintances that iconic queer
text, Leaves of Grass.

By contrast, Micki McElya, a doctoral 

[CTRL] NM: Whitewater Hero David Hale's Long Ordeal Ends

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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Whitewater Hero David Hale's Long Ordeal Ends

NewsMax.com Monday, July 9, 2001


David Hale is a free man today thanks to NewsMax.com readers and Arkansas
governor Mike Huckabee, who stood firm against pressure from Bill Clinton's
many cronies in Arkansas who did not want him to commute Hale's sentence.

In 1993 Hale, then an Arkansas businessman, set off the Whitewater
investigation by swearing that then-Gov. Clinton pressured him to make an
improper loan to help bail out the infamous Whitewater real estate project
in which Bill and Hillary Clinton were in partnership with James and Susan
McDougal.

Hale's testimony sparked pressure from Congress for the appointment of an
independent counsel to investigate the Clintons' personal and political
finances. The investigation, first headed by independent counsel Robert
Fiske and later by Kenneth Starr, began during Clinton's first year as
president and continued throughout the eight years of his presidency.

Hale's accusations brought down the full power of the Clinton White House
and his cronies in the so-called Arkansas mafia.

Despite promises from federal prosecutors to protect him from retaliation,
Hale ended up being indicted on charges of financial misdeeds and served a
21-month sentence in a federal prison. Ken Starr, who once met Hale at the
Little Rock courthouse, assured him that he would not serve jail time in
state prison, but later did nothing for him.

Though Hale was the only fully cooperating witness in the so-called
Whitewater probe, he ended up with one of the most severe sentences -
having to serve longer than Clinton pal Webster Hubbell and co-conspirator
Jim Guy Tucker, the former governor of Arkansas.

After being freed from federal prison, in 1999 Hale was convicted on state
charges involving insurance fraud - charges legal observers insisted were
retaliation for Hale's stubborn determination to tell the truth about the
Clintons no matter what the cost to him.

He was sentenced to 21 days in a state prison but he did not begin serving
that sentence while his case was appealed.

Earlier last month, Gov. Huckabee announced he was planning to grant a
commutation to Hale, and initiated a 30-day comment period required by
state law.

On July 5, thanks largely to NewsMax.com readers who flooded his office
with appeals for clemency for Hale, Gov. Huckabee commuted Hale's sentence
to time already served.

Gov. Huckabee cited Hale's medical condition. Hale, who suffers from a
heart condition, survives on life-sustaining medication.

NewsMax.com and its editor, Christopher Ruddy, came under harsh criticism
from the Arkansas press. Gene Lyons, a Clinton supporter who writes a
column for the Arkansas Gazette, insinuated that Gov. Huckabee had received
money to grant the clemency.

We're glad it's over, David Bowden, Hale's attorney, told the New York
Times. Bowden has always claimed that the prosecution of Hale was in
retaliation for his role in the Whitewater case.

It's kind of a political end to a political prosecution, Bowden said.



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[CTRL] Chamish: Reply To Michael Hesemann (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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From: Barry Chamish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Hesemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 11:03 PM
Subject: Reply To Michael Hesemann


Michael Hello,

Please reread my article. It was written entirely as an appeal by a worried
friend. I could not have been more complimentary to you. There is not a
hint of attack, just deep anxiety. I truly believe your goodness is being
exploited. Look carefully at my thesis: NO ONE is under personal attack
from me. My thesis is that really bad people are using really good people
for their own purposes. That is what I said: you don't realize it when
you're being used, and you're far from alone. The UFO debate is flying off
into the realms of the ridiculous and if our study is to be saved, we have
to be more rigid.

I saw an expose of the alien autopsy film here on tv. The surgeon came on
screen, pointed himself out in the film and confessed to his role in the
fraud. What more is there to say? The issue is over.

I was in LA at the Kiviat Studios last April taping a show, a good show.
The Diaz films were shown and one after another; Bruce Maccabee, Jim
Courier, Michael Lindemann (I heard, I missed meeting him) slaughtered
their authenticity. I felt rotten for you. Millions of people saw that show
prime time on Fox, millions more saw it prime time on BBC. You were lucky
only Maccabee's portion was aired or it would have been far worse. Jim
Courier (hope I have it spelled right) said outright that Diaz was a
professional photographer who rigged the shots. It was as bad a fraud
expose as you can get in the limited UFO world. The only worse one I saw
was the trashing of the alien autopsy film on something called Frauds
Exposed.

What is going on with you? You're risking all your splendid work on Diaz
and the alien autopsy. Why are you sticking your neck out for these
causes?? I'm guessing your credibility and those of others mentioned
are being deliberately manipulated. Whether you accept money from him or
not, any association with a Rockefeller is DANGEROUS. That family's
expertise is disinformation and confusion. Look what that wretched lot and
their political organizations are doing to my country. We're being murdered
by the hundreds because of them.

Look, Michael, my message couldn't have been clearer. There are forces
sowing dissension out there. I suppose, you are too decent and believing to
accept it. But the field needs you intact. Listen to what others are
saying. The alien autopsy film was debunked too powerfully for you to
defend it. Too many people, experts and laymen alike, are debunking Diaz.
You're getting burned badly and I'm deeply disappointed.

My hope is you'll reply publicly in the following way: My research is
widespread. My track record is as good as anyone's. My judgement is not
perfect but it has been proven to be astute. I will do some soul searching
and re-examine the alien autopsy and Diaz cases. I would appreciate
receiving as many views as possible on their merits or deficiencies before
I make my future choices.

My thesis was straightforward: Top talent isn't allowed to write about UFOs
because it is a defamed field. The defamation has a source. It must be
identified and the disinformation weeded out. Those used to promote shoddy
cases are mostly innocent victims. We will put an end to their
exploitation.

Reread what I wrote. Every word about you was sincere. You are one of my
favorite people and I said so. You are being hurt and I feel bad about it.
But you have to step back a few feet and look what's happening to you and
the UFO field. We're all in it for the truth. Don't be afraid to admit if
you were wrong here and there. No one will hold it against you; least of
all me.

Best, Barry


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[CTRL] FR: Chandra Levy [and Monica Lewinsky] a Mossad Agent?

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b468d514d5d.htm


MEDIUM RARE
By Jim Rarey

July 6, 2001

CHANDRA LEVY A MOSSAD AGENT?


Sherman Skolnick, the Chicago nemesis of crooked judges, has an interesting
theory about Chandra Levy and Monica Lewinski (you remember Monica don't
you)? He thinks both may be agents of the Israeli spy agency Mossad.

Before rejecting the theories out of hand, let's take a look. The thing
about a valid theory is that it must account for all the known facts. In
both cases there are a lot of unanswered questions that could knock the
theories into a cocked hat. On the other hand, some of the reported facts
might make more sense within the spy theory.

We know that Monica got her intern assignment because of her mother's
influence, but how did she get a top secret security clearance. Even more
puzzling is how did she keep it and get such a sensitive assignment at the
Pentagon when she was exiled from the White House?

Who at the Pentagon did she seduce and become pregnant with requiring an
abortion? Did Mossad really stumble onto Bill and Monica's phone sex
while bugging Bob Dole, or were they already plugged in? What were the
papers she lifted from Ken Bacon's office?

There are other questions but these few make you wonder who her real
sponsor was.

As for Chandra, let's start with the similarities. Her father, as is
Monica' s, is a wealthy Jewish ontologist. Both fathers are significant
donors to Democrat causes. However we don't know who sponsored Chandra to
get her internship nor how she ended up at the Bureau of Prisons.

It seems to be a recurring phenomenon in major stories that facts
reported early on are never mentioned again (at least by the major
media), e.g. the other bombs at OKC that everyone saw and heard reported on
live TV but now are non-existent.

First reports were that Chandra had a boyfriend in the FBI. We are now
deluged with information about her affair with Congressman Gary Condit but
no further mention of the FBI. Isn't it possible that both reports are
true?

Another fact the media shies away from is Condit's membership on the House
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. This is not a routine
assignment. Members of that committee are carefully selected. Many of its
members, while now members of congress, come from the CIA or one of the
other organizations in the intelligence community.

While Condit has no reported ties to intelligence, other than his committee
membership, it would seem reasonable to believe that the CIA/FBI has some
kind of hold over him to keep him in line. Perhaps it would be something
like his ties to the Hell's Angels. He reportedly helped celebrate the
birthday of one gang member who is a cop killer.

It is also reasonable to believe the intelligence community would have a
watchdog monitoring activities of committee members. Someone like say Terry
Lenzner, Bill Clinton's private eye charged with investigating impeachment
committee members.

Lenzner himself has an interesting background. In a deposition before Larry
Klaman's Judicial Watch, Lenzner admitted when a private attorney he had
defended Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, even suing the U. S. Senate in Gottlieb's
behalf. Gottlieb, of course, was the mastermind and director of the CIA's
MK-Ultra mind control program.

But is (was?) Chandra a Mossad spy who set out to insinuate herself into
the confidence of a FBI official and a member of the House Intelligence
Committee? If so, what happened to cause her to lose her job and Condit to
break off the relationship in approximately the same time frame?

One could theorize that somehow her Mossad connection was exposed resulting
in immediately being fired from her intern job and instructions to Condit
to break off the relationship and start a cover-up. The excuse that she had
earned her degree several months earlier making her ineligible for an
internship seems weak at best. She may have earned the degree but it had
not yet been awarded. That's the reason she was getting ready to go to
California before she was fired.

Alternatively, obtaining the internship and winding up at the Bureau of
Prisons could be entirely innocent. However, one supposition would fit
either scenario. Chandra could very well have learned something that made
her dangerous to the establishment.

What major event was unfolding during Chandra's tenure at the Bureau of
Prisons? The answer, the on again, off again, on again dance over the
execution of Timothy McVeigh.

One of the tantalizing facts that appeared once and once only to this
writer's knowledge was a report that a Dr. Louis Jolyn West had visited
McVeigh several times in prison. If true, this could be significant.

Dr. West is alleged to have CIA ties and is deeply involved in mind control
experiments. He is on the faculty at UCLA where he tried to establish a
center for the study of violence in the 1970's. The center's specialty
would have been psychosurgery, a melting of brain connections, 

Re: [CTRL] NM: Condit: The Noose Tightens

2001-07-11 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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2) Her latest revelation that Condit is into deviant, auto erotic sex
only makes him more likely to be involved in Chandra Levy's
disappearance.

Why?

Autoerotic implies he was into activities of a sexual nature which one
does alone...so unless what he was REALLY into was WATCHING someone
else perform acts of autoeroticism, and such acts were potentially
harmful to the person performing the act, it's hard to see the connection
between Condit's supposed interest in autoeroticism and Levy's
disappearance...


3) Which brings us to the case of Joyce Chang. You may recall that in May,
when Chandra's disappearance first made the news, there were stories about
Chang's disappearance from the same neighborhood two years ago. Her brother
led a candle light vigil for his late sister, whose body was found months
after her disappearance floating in the Potomac River. No one has ever been
arrested in this case.

If Chang's body was found floating in the Potomac months after she
disappeared, it implies that she was alive for some time after her
disappearance, else the body would have been found in the Potomac much
sooner, or it would have rotted enough to sink...

Bloated dead bodies only float in water for a few weeks at most, unless
they are in freezing cold water which preserves the body...as the body
rots and is nibbled on by fish, the internal gasses which kept the body
afloat would be released, and what is left of the remains would sink to
the bottom...


5) And, if the Bush/Ashcroft Justice Department has its act in gear, they
should smell blood in the water here. If the truth forces Condit to resign
his seat, the GOP can win it in a special election. That district has a
conservative bent and has been Condit's only because of his long career
there. But in a House with a tiny majority for the Republicans, every seat
counts. Picking up that seat - in a state now completely dominated by the
Democrats - would be a great coup for the Republicans.

A premise that goes as much to support the theory that Condit's been set
up, as to support that he is somehow guiltily involved in Levy's
disappearance...



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[CTRL] Fwd: Water Water Everywhere and not a drop to drink

2001-07-11 Thread Aleisha Saba




So the Israel water is muddy and not fit for even the Israelis to drink?

Well maybe they can empty a few swimming pools for there are many

Like out west the attempt to drive people off their land and destroy
their crops to save some fish - the people armed and dangerous now,
loosed up the damned water (forgive the pun) and I imagine when it comes
now to Henry Kissinger's dream being applied - water as a weapon here we
go?

Strange - we see evidence of Gay Pride being sponsored by ADL and
communist party over the world and now we see organized efforts to
control the water?So Kissinger will have his dream come true and
this big hog (he has matured in these past years) now has finally
accomplished his dream - cornering market on food and water - and even
the air we breathe?

Keep your powder dry, as George W. Bush said - and if you have the means
getta Panzer Tank.

Lamentations in the bible about the water - for all in the bible for
this is the Master Plan for Murder - when in the wrong hands.

We are to worry about AIDS?   One very simple solution re AIDS - stop
endorsiong sodomy  and the next time Gay Pride comes after the boy
scouts start filing a big muotiillion dollar law suit against this
communist ADL connected secret society - for Defamation of Character.

So many different lawsuits could be filed here - for instance the boy
scouts walking in to a trap at the Democrat Convention and then
orchestrated boos - psychological damage?   After all they were invited
were they not?

Do we see sodomy being taught in the synagogues  Does the ADL appeal
to the synagogues to teach their chilren sodomy?   And oh the mixing of
white and black marriages?Even Farrakhan knows what a big piece of
crap that is.

Note they try to blackmail the boy scouts by cutting off monies -
something like the Israelis now will cut off water to Palestinians.

Things are changing.Tony Blair sits at Number 10 Downing Street - as
they say they know where he lives.

All orchestrated by whom?   All singing out of same song book - and yet
Clinton goes on and on as though he were a world leader?

His days without a doubt are numbered - he too is expendable?

Saba

SABA NOTE:  Kind of reminds you of the poisoned bread?   Shaking pipes
and fire plugs stirs a mess with the water..so don't drink the water
or eat the bread?


  Israelis Warned Not to Drink Tap Water
The Associated Press

Monday, July 9, 2001; 11:22 p.m. EDT
JERUSALEM ?? Two million Israelis in the Tel Aviv area received a stern
warning Monday ? don't drink the water.

Breaking into a prime-time TV newscast with the sudden announcement, the
Health Ministry said the water had turned murky, and boiling it would
not purify it. Therefore, officials said, people should not drink tap
water until further notice.

Dr. Alex Leventhal, head of the ministry's public health service, said
the ban was a precaution.

He told Israel television that the source of the discoloration was
unknown, and it was not certain that it was dangerous to health.

Asked if it might have been an attempt by militants to poison the water
supply, Leventhal said, In my humble professional opinion it's
impossible to sabotage the water over such a wide area. It's something
to do with the water itself and the management of the water.

This comes as Israel faces one of its worst water shortages because of a
three-year drought. The Sea of Galilee, Israel's main freshwater
reservoir, is far below what scientists regard as the danger level, and
the coastal aquifer is fast becoming polluted with sea water.

© Copyright 2001 The Associated Press
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Re: [CTRL] NM: Condit Girlfriend Saw Evidence of Sadomasochistic Sex

2001-07-11 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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A lawyer for a former girlfriend of California Congressman Gary Condit said
late Monday that she saw evidence in Condit's apartment suggesting he
indulged in sadomasochistic sex practices that could be linked to the
disappearance of 24-year-old Washington, D.C. intern Chandra Levy.

Sadomasochistic is not necessarily the same as autoerotic as was
stated in another post...


ROBINSON: Near the end of their relationship things started to really
disturb Anne Marie. She found what she believed to be Chandra's hair in his
bathroom. She saw other things of a sexual nature that she had nothing to
do with and was wondering what the -- what in the world is going on. And
then this woman disappears. She was terrified.

This statement sounds somewhat suspect, when you keep in mind that Smith
up until now claims she knew nothing about Levy before the intern's
disappearance, and only claimed a vague feeling that Condit had someone
else on the side besides the stewardess...

Now Smith says she found Levy's hair in Condit's bathroom and saw some
kinky sex toys...which implies she knew that Condit was having a
relationship with someone other than Smith and Condit's wife long
before Levy went missing...which makes Smith a potential suspect, as she
could have been jealous of the woman she felt was a real rival...


ROBINSON: Apparently there were ties -- neckties tied together, tied
underneath the bed -- as if someone had been tied up in bed. And that had
never happened to my client before. And, apparently, Mr. Condit made a joke
about it, just brushed it off. And (Smith) told me that she was very afraid
for her life at that point.

Lots of people enjoy being tied up during sex, and for most people it
doesn't go beyond that point.  We aren't told WHAT Condit joked about,
there is just as much reason to conjecture that CONDIT was the one who
allowed himself to be tied up, Levy playing a dominatrix role, as to
conjecture that Levy was somehow a victim in these 'games'...


ZAHN: Now, did the relationship solely end because she suspected he was
involved with another woman? Or was there something else involved here?

ROBINSON: Well, the last time they saw each other was actually in April.

Some weeks before Levy disappeared; one can assume that it was on this
April visit that Smith found Levy's hair in Condit's bathroom and the
fit-to-be-tied ties...and yet again it must be pointed out that until
this time, Smith was claiming to have known nothing about Levy, that she
(Smith) only had a 'vague feeling' that Condit was seeing someone else...

Now she admits she was at Condit's in April, and found the hair of
another woman in his bathroom and obvious signs of Condit having a sexual
relationship with another woman.

To put it plainly, Anna Marie Smith has lied.



ROBINSON: She found a new bottle of massage oil that had been used, which
he never used around her. She also knew that the congressman's wife had not
been around for quite some time. And all kinds of different things.

More evidence that Smith had PROOF of Condit's relationship with another
woman, rather than just a 'vague feeling'...



ROBINSON: Ah -- I really don't want to get into it specifically as I've
been asked by criminal investigators not to. But apparently Congressman
Condit had some peculiar sexual fantasies that a normal heterosexual man
does not have.

Oh, I think Ms. Smith and her attorney might be surprised at the wide
range of sexual fantasies that normal, heterosexual men have...

But again, there's nothing in Smith's statement to imply that Condit
played the dominant role in these 'fantasies' or actual 'games'...he
could have just as likely fantasized about being dominated as have
fantasized about dominating a partner...


That's her testimony, not mine. And we've been asked not to
talk about that specifically. Um -- you know.

But it's perfectly okay for Smith and her attorney to spread innuendo...


ROBINSON: His wife was in Washington, D.C., she's normally not. I think
that may have been a ploy to keep Chandra away from his apartment so that
whatever happened could happen.

This statement implies that MRS. Condit was involved in some manner...she
at least had to agree to come to D.C. when she normally didn't go
there...



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[CTRL] FOXNews: Libel Judgment Against Anti-Clinton Filmmaker Rejected by Appeals Court

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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http://foxnews.com/story/0,2933,29250,00.html


Libel Judgment Against Anti-Clinton Filmmaker Rejected by Appeals Court

Tuesday, July 10, 2001


LITTLE ROCK - A federal appeals court Tuesday threw out a defamation
judgment against an anti-Clinton filmmaker, saying that while one of his
conspiracy-laden videos blurred the line between fact and fiction, two
sheriff's deputies mentioned in the film had no standing to sue.

While dismissing a $598,750 judgment against Patrick Matrisciana, the 8th
U.S.
Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis wrote that it was not saying he was
ethical or fair in his documentary about the railroad track deaths of two
Saline County teen-agers.

The record in this case reads like a John Grisham novel, the court wrote.

However, unlike The Pelican Brief or The Firm, here the lines between
fact and fiction are blurred.

The video, Obstruction of Justice: the Mena Connection, focused on the
unsolved deaths of Kevin Ives and Don Henry. In the documentary, Pulaski
County sheriff's Lts. Jay Campbell and Kirk Lane were listed among six law
enforcement officers that alleged eyewitnesses said could be implicated in
the murders and the subsequent cover-up.

The 8th Circuit said the sheriff's lieutenants were public figures and had
to prove Matrisciana knew the information was false or that he was reckless
in weighing information presented in the film. The judges said their ruling
was not a condemnation of the officers or their job performance.

Matrisciana, who also produced The Clinton Chronicles, which took a highly
critical view of then-President Clinton, said in a telephone interview from
Los Angeles that justice had been served despite the fight over the Mena
documentary.

Our right to criticize public officials has been upheld, Matrisciana
said.

If we had lost, it would have been very dangerous for the media.

I think the good part of this was payback for the sins that I committed
against the president, Matrisciana said.

Ives and Henry were found dead in 1987 after being hit by a train while
laying on the tracks. Their deaths were initially ruled accidental due to
marijuana intoxication, but after a second autopsy and a lawsuit filed by
Ives' parents, the deaths were ruled homicides.

As the theory goes, they were first killed and their bodies then laid on
the tracks to make their deaths appear accidental, the court wrote.

Matrisciana's defense at his trial centered on his right to freedom of
expression.

He said that, according to his research, the boys were walking down the
train tracks about 4 a.m. on Aug. 23, 1987, when they came upon a small
plane dropping a cargo of illegal drugs as it flew without lights 100 feet
from the ground. A witness reported seeing the boys seized by two men, and
their bodies were found after they had been run over by a train.

Various conspiracy theories floated during the Clinton administration
suggested that illegal drugs were routinely flown into the airport at Mena
in western Arkansas during the 1980s and that Clinton, then Arkansas'
governor, knew about it but did nothing to combat it.

The 8th Circuit said Tuesday that Clinton ... as near as we can tell, was
tossed into the video that is the subject of this appeal just for flavor.

U.S. District Judge Warren K. Urbom of Lincoln, Neb., who presided at the
trial at Little Rock in 1999, had ruled the deputies proved that
Matrisciana had serious doubts about a statement connecting the pair to the
boys' deaths.

After Tuesday's ruling, Matrisciana said he stood by the film's content.

Justice has not prevailed in Arkansas in the death of these two boys, he
said.

The jurors had awarded $200,000 each in punitive damages to Campbell and
Lane, $109,750 in compensatory damages to Campbell and $89,000 in
compensatory damages to Lane. The initial ruling went against Matrisciana
and companies of which he is listed as chairman and president: Citizens for
an Honest Government, doing business as Integrity Films; and Jeremiah Films
Inc.


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[CTRL] Plot to Assassination Bush - Consider the Source here and Note Date

2001-07-11 Thread Aleisha Saba

-Caveat Lector-

So straight out of KGB Headquarters and no doubt Kissinger Headquarters
maintained by CFR:   Plot to Assassinate Bush by Osama bin Laden.

Note the date of this article - July 9, 2001.

Now July 9, 1969 was when Walter Lippman, who was CFR and Rhodes Round
Table (like Clinton) - it was then that Walter Lippman wrote
surely the democrats will be punished and THEIR OFFICES TAKEN AWAY'

And then they tried to take out Teddy,  the 2nd attempt which failed to
kill him physically but destroyed him politically - but he still holds
fast as US Senator out of respect to JFK, no doubt.

Now Lippman when this article was printed a UPI reported mailed me a
copy of same for this was written in the Pittsburg Gazette - he had my
bible calendar and the beginning of my manuscript showing how the
murders of JFK and RFK and MLK were timed to this bible, and the
ritualistic murder was being used by someone well acquainted with
religion, astrology, murder for hire, and this is real Mafia stuff -
using the bible as a code and communications.

At the time I thought Walter Lippman, for I had discounted this man from
being involved in anything because he was such an important man in the
field of journalism and at the time I had never heard of the CFR or
Rhodes Round  Table  for to me all police were perfect.

Might add KGB was connected to murder of Marilyn Monroe and Elvis
Presley - secrets all in the bible timed to murder.

So here is this ritual murder - the vendetta and look at the Kennedy
Brothers, the Sons of Job as Jean Dixon wrote, who was considerble
cats paw for her masters - this Rosicrucian pig -
note the date of July 9 which is significant that this story was
released.

Now this is how propaganda works.plant the seeds for murder like
Jean Dixon did, she marked JFK for murder over and over and over
again.now I know why a Grand Dragon of the KKK told me, the John
Birch Society was a cats paw for the ADL and KGB?   Think he was right
for how far right can you go to get to the KKK unless of course you
consider the KGB had organized different KKK organizations over here for
the Walker Navy spies -

Show of might and force?   KGB once again starts the ball moving - and
wash their hands of it all.

I accuse the KGB aided by Meyer Lansky of murdering our President John
F. Kennedy and Robert F. Kennedyas for Martin Luther King he was a
pawn for the Communist Party who followed not only party line but this
curious little Gideon Bible calendar,  until he reached the top of Mt
Nebo and saw the promised land as did Moses, and was knocked off.

George Bush is no fool  for he is way ahead of this bunch..Putin has
cast personally the seeds of death rather than a Jean Dixon, for I say
when I got through with that old bat she lost her divine status and the
scientists warned that the astrologers had gone too far for heaven
forbid, they had even marked Gerald Ford for murder - and Manson thorugh
his little agent Squaky Fromme enforced (or tried to enforce) the kiss
of death, to Fordlittle red riding hood - in a red cape with a gun
was permitted to get within 10 feet of the President?   None Dare Call
this Premeditated Murder by Prophecy.

So here is the nice story straight out of Russia and note the July 9
date, for as Walter Lippmen marked the democrats for punishment and
Gideon you know, believed in severe punishment for this is what the
name means in one translation - so here is this nice little story
marking George W  Bush for murder and be advised if he is murdered it
will not be the work of Osama bin Laden, but the KGB and Mossad in
combined effort?

Remember the USS Liberty.

Saba



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Plot to assassinate Bush - reports
July 9, 2001 Posted: 9:23 AM EDT (1323 GMT)
  Bin Laden: Believed to have a network of guerrillas

MOSCOW, Russia -- Osama bin Laden has threatened to assassinate U.S.
President George W. Bush at a G8 meeting in Italy, the head of Russia's
Federal Bodyguard Service has said, according to reports.

The Associated Press said Yevgeny Murov was quoted by Itar-Tass news
agency as saying:

Bin Laden is threatening the American president, but we know what
international terrorism is today and therefore all the bodyguard units
concerned are preparing for this.  [SABA NOTE:   Remember how the Pope
was gunned down and he knows who really did what   

[CTRL] They Sure Want Those IRA and Sinn Fein Guns - Sound Familiar?

2001-07-11 Thread Aleisha Saba




 Adams speech on peace process crisis


 -
 The following is the full text of the keynote address by Sinn
 Fein President Gerry Adams MP at a public meeting in Westminster,
 London yesterday evening.
 -


 KEEPING AN EYE ON THE PRIZE


 The initial intention of this speech was to set the context, from
 an Irish republican and Sinn Fein perspective, of the current
 crisis in the Irish peace process.

 I use the term peace process in its widest meaning and I will
 return to this later.

 As to the initial intention behind these remarks, that has been
 overtaken by the current talks.

 That makes this occasion no less important. On the contrary the
 events of this past few days give my remarks greater import
 because they are about a crisis in the peace process. And that
 crisis continues despite the current talks.

 Indeed it continues not least because of the way the British
 government approaches these talks. That approach has been
 characterised as making all other issues secondary to the issue
 of IRA arms.

 In other words, the issue of IRA weapons has been made a
 pre-condition for progress on all other issues. This is in direct
 breach of the Good Friday Agreement. The British government may
 protest that this is not the case or in so far as it is the case,
 that this arises from David Trimble's resignation and from the
 price which Mr. Trimble has put on the future stability of the
 political institutions.

 Resisting Change


 For this reason the bulk of my remarks are on the arms issue, and
 although I think it is a pity that this has to be so, it is also
 indicative of where this process is. Why is this so? It is
 because there is resistance to change in the north of Ireland,
 not only within unionism but from within the British system also.

 This goes back much further than the current crisis. Indeed, it
 has been an historic factor in every effort to deliver equality,
 justice, and peace. In this phase it goes back to the private
 assurances in the side-letter that Tony Blair gave to David
 Trimble hours after they had endorsed the Good Friday Agreement.

 In the Good Friday Agreement all parties reaffirmed 'their
 commitment to the total disarmament of all paramilitary
 organisations.' They also confirmed 'their intention to continue
 to work constructively and in good faith with the Independent
 Commission, and to use any influence they may have, to achieve
 the decommissioning of all paramilitary arms within two years
 following endorsement in referendums, north and south, of the
 agreement and in the context of the implementation of the overall
 settlement'.

 This is the agreement on decommissioning which the UUP and Sinn
 Fein, and the other parties, including the British and Irish
 governments, negotiated and agreed upon over three years ago.
 This is an agreement which Sinn Fein is wedded to.

 But the unionists sought further commitments from the British
 government. Hence the letter from Mr.. Blair - which is no more
 than that - a letter from Mr.. Blair which is outside the scope
 or the terms of the Good Friday Agreement.

 In similar vein, those officials within the British system who
 have continued to seek the defeat of the IRA, in drafting the
 enabling legislation which set up the Independent International
 Commission on Decommissioning, ensured that this would have the
 effect of strangling the work of that body even before it began.
 In other words, the political imperative and the conflict
 resolution ethos which underpinned the decommissioning section of
 the Good Friday Agreement was diluted and made subject to the old
 unionist and securocrat agenda.


 Whether Tony Blair directed or was advised in this matter is
 immaterial. He was responsible, even if it can be argued by him
 that this was for good tactical reasons in order to keep the
 unionists engaged. His government is responsible for permitting a
 virus to remain at the heart of the agreement.

 The fault line in the Agreement and of every crisis in it can be
 traced to that point. That letter showed a willingness on the
 part of the British government to pander to unionism and to
 create the space for Mr.. Trimble to commence his effort to
 hollow out the Agreement. The target has been the range of
 political, constitutional, institutional, justice, human rights
 and equality issues contained in the Agreement. This is
 understandable from Mr. Trimble's perspective. His is a unionist
 perspective. He cannot be blamed for coming at the Agreement from
 that perspective.

 But of course the issue of decommissioning is not only a unionist
 preoccupation. It was not introduced into the process by
 unionists.

 That responsibility rests with John Major's government whose
 handling of the process can hardly be held up as a model of good
 management and good faith. The issue was also 

Re: [CTRL] FOXNews: Libel Judgment Against Anti-Clinton Filmmaker Rejected by Appeals Court

2001-07-11 Thread Aleisha Saba

-Caveat Lector-

While there is talk of many lawsuits - more I think of it the Boy Scouts
of America can sue the hell out of some of these people and they have
Supreme Court decison to back them up.

Hope the kids sue individually and collectively for they are trying to
terrorize the kids - and look at Paula Poundstone now hiding in Alcholic
Rehab for drinking caused her to molest or perform lewd acts upon her
children?  Left them in harms way?

The harm began when they let that sick pig take these kids into her
home..like this sick homosexual who was murdered in our town, oh he
lavished these little kids with gifts and fed them so well - like the
witch in Hansel and Gretal and then went in for the kill - three little
kids, one 5, 6 and 8 years of age - an alcoholic father had virtually
given his kids to this pervert, who ran with the pack in and tried for
murder.involved with Meyer Lansky.

So now the boy scouts are being vilified and they turn these perverts
loose upon them in an attempt to bring them down to their level?

Think sodomy will ever be accepted in this cuontry - well with AIDS
running its course, in a few years the problem will have solved itself.

This man who had the litle children here, the last time I saw him before
he was murdered, he was dead man walking - turning into an old man, for
he had lost this plump face an looked like he had something terribly
wrong with him - and maybe this is why his male paramour murdered him.

Saba

PROTECT THE CHILDRENand remember the words of Paula Poundstone
that Gay Pride is supporting now - Poundstone said she always checked
out the sodomy laws before he went into any state and in particular was
ready to go to Georgia and fight for Sodomy Rights and Gay Pride?

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[CTRL] Chammsh: LIES, LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES, LIES, LIES (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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From: Barry Chamish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:06 AM
Subject: more lies


 LIES, LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES, LIES, LIES by Barry Chamish


The Tel Aviv region's water supply is poisoned with ammonia. At the height
of the panic, the national water inspector tells Channel Two evening news
that he is not ruling out sabotage. An hour later, a security guard working
at the National Water Carrier's pumping station south of Modiin is murdered
and his weapon stolen. The murder is not seen as worthy of note by the
Israeli media. A story is disseminated that agricultural runoff somehow
entered a small pipe whose one direction flow valve failed. And that
somehow tainted the water supply of two million people.

Lies, lies and more lies.

Two months ago, the families of the three soldiers kidnapped by Hizbullah
are at Ben Gurion Airport on the way to meet UN big chief Kofi Annan.
Coincidentally, so am I. I tell them, don't believe a word from Annan. On a
40 km. road, your sons were kidnapped outside a UN outpost by terrorists
wearing UN uniforms and driving a UN vehicle. This was a UN operation,
probably coordinated with Syria. A few of the family members have read Who
Murdered Yitzhak Rabin and listen closely. They vow to investigate further.
In New York they tell the media the UN was responsible for the kidnappings.
This week a film emerges proving it.

For the past 25 years. Shimon Peres has written and stated that he had a
personal talk with Yoni Netanyahu before he flew off to lead the Entebbe
rescue. At the anniversary celebration this week, another officer says that
Peres was lying. Peres admits he was mistaken and never actually spoke to
Yoni Netanyahu.

More bald-faced lies from Peres and the Israeli media drops the issue like
a hot falafel... Just like they never followed up on an expose by Hebron
leader David Wilder published on the Arutz Sheva website.

Please, listen to this carefully, because otherwise you will not believe
what you hear. The date is Friday, July 14, 1995 several months before the
assassination of then Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. Rabin's Foreign
Minister was none other than the present Foreign Minister, Shimon Peres.

I was in the middle of writing an article when I heard an interview on Kol
Yisrael radio with Rabbi Nahum Rabinovitch, from Ma'ale Adumim. Rabbi
Rabinovitch had spoken to a reporter who interviewed Peres a short time
before. The reporter asked Peres, 'Aren't your worried about what will
happen to the 'settlers' in Judea and Samaria after the army pulls out?'
Peres' answer was, and I quote from that 1995 article 'I have no problem
with what will happen in Yesha. We will withdraw the army and then let's
see what happens. They (the Jews) will either run away immediately, or the
Arabs will massacre some, and then we'll see what happens.'

You are undoubtedly asking yourselves, what did he say?

So, I repeat, and again, please listen carefully. Shimon Peres: 'I have no
problem with what will happen in Yesha. We will withdraw the army and then
let's see what happens. They (the Jews) will either run away immediately,
or the Arabs will massacre some, and then we'll see what happens.' That was
Foreign minister Shimon Peres of 1995.

This time, Peres did not lie. That is an oddity as you'll see if you visit:

www.afsi.org/shimon.htm

Nothing makes sense about the Dolphinarium explosion, which killed 23 young
revellers in a line outside a disco. Israel blamed Hamas or Islamic Jihad
for the bomb yet neither accepted responsibility or had filmed the bomber
before his mission, as is always their modus operandi. Disinformation
spreads throughout Israel that the bomber was sent by Osama bin Laden. His
original target was the American Embassy but it was too heavily guarded. So
he set his sights on the disco instead.

Now why would the bomber want to explode his device outside a completely
deserted embassy on a Friday night? Why would he choose an alternative
target half a mile away, when the most crowded cafes were a few steps away
from the embassy? The bomber is a Jordanian residing in Israel on a
government visa. He would have been under heavy Shabak surveillance. Now
look at this detail, not surprisingly, unreported in the Israeli media:

From the Sunday Times of London:

* * *

Disco bomber used Israeli mole as driver By Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv

A PALESTINIAN with links to Israeli intelligence unwittingly acted as a
driver for the suicide bomber responsible for the devastating explosion
that killed 22 people outside a Tel Aviv discotheque, it was claimed last
week.

A senior Palestinian intelligence official told The Sunday Times that the
driver, Mahmoud Dahshat Rashid Al-Nadi, who made his living ferrying
Palestinians from the West Bank to Israel, was an informant for Israeli
police intelligence.

Al-Nadi, who is in his twenties, was arrested on June 2, the day after he

[CTRL] WT: To Kill a Lie: Florida's Black Voter Turnout Grossly Overstated

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

-Caveat Lector-

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20010711-92389405.htm

THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 11, 2001

Florida's black voter turnout grossly overstated

By Frank J. Murray


Widely quoted assertions that black voters cast 15 percent of Florida's
ballots in the 2000 presidential election are wrong far beyond any
acceptable margin of error, The Washington Times has learned.

Official computerized reports obtained by The Times, identifying each voter
by name and race, contradict claims that turnout by blacks has increased by
more than 50 percent since 1996.

Contrary to all reports, black voters on Nov. 7 constituted 10 percent of
Florida's turnout -- 610,616 by actual count, as opposed to estimates that
routinely top 900,000.

Simply achieving the widely reported 15 percent share of the turnout of
6,086,109 would require that an unheard of 97.7 percent of all black
registered voters had gone to the polls.

People just throw out statistics. Where do they get this stuff? It's
basically a guess, Clayton Roberts, who heads the Florida Division of
Elections, told The Times before the full file was assembled.

The actual 10 percent black share of the votes cast on Nov. 7 rose only
slightly from 1996's official record, when blacks cast 9.5 percent of the
5.4 million votes.

Among other serious consequences, the mistaken 15 percent estimate helped
lead to the inaccurate televised declarations that Al Gore had won the
state, narrowing the race by discouraging some George W. Bush supporters
from voting in parts of Florida where polls still were open. The narrowness
of Mr. Bush's lead nourished hopes that the Florida result could be
reversed by recounts in precincts dominated by minorities.

The precise count of who voted is derived from Florida's active voter
file, a public record compiled by Mr. Roberts' office. It contains the
names, addresses and political affiliations of active voters with their
voting records for each election since 1992.

States such as Florida that are subject to the federal Voting Rights Act
also must include racial data in voter files.

The mistaken 15 percent estimates originated on Election Day with Voter
News Service (VNS), a media cooperative. It quickly was adopted as doctrine
by reporters and by voting analyst David Bositis at the Joint Center for
Political and Economic Studies even though VNS national numbers never
showed a broad surge in black turnout.

Our Florida estimate was at 15 percent of the turnout. In 1996, it was 10
percent. It wouldn't surprise me if they were both actually at 12.5
percent, VNS statistician Murray Edelman said in an interview before The
Times obtained precise data.

Once the numbers get out, they have a life all their own. People who have
an agenda can use them in ways that serve them or to make a point, said
Mr. Edelman, who is editorial director for VNS.

VNS conducted exit polls in every state. It based Florida estimates on
1,785 interviews, including 352 with black voters. Mr. Edelman said the
other key VNS finding, that only 7 percent of Florida blacks voted for Mr.
Bush, was an estimate and that his personal view is that the figure may
range from 3 percent to 10 percent.

Seven percent is our best estimate of preference, Mr. Edelman said.

When The Times reviewed final outcomes from five Miami area precincts where
93 percent of the 6,008 registered voters were black, Mr. Gore consistently
drew 86 percent to 88 percent of the vote.

Mr. Edelman said VNS did not use the available racial data to choose a
racially representative sample of precincts for interviews and said the
data also may have been tainted by clustering interviews at big-city
precincts where many blacks live.

That's a good idea, he replied when asked why he didn't use racial data
in states required to compile it.

In Florida, the black share of the vote grew from 10 to 15 percent of the
total, a 50 percent increase, Mr. Bositis wrote in a scholarly paper
published and distributed by his organization, a widely quoted source for
many political writers and analysts who perpetuated that mistake in
virtually every news report and commentary, including two commentaries in
this newspaper since July 1.

Mr. Bositis said he lifted numbers selectively from the New York Times, a
VNS subscriber that published exit interview data in its election review
issue Nov. 12. He reacted testily when asked why he would base sweeping
conclusions on partial figures without all the data, which he said his
organization couldn't afford to buy.

It's my choice. I can do whatever I want. I'm the foremost authority on
black voting in the country. I don't work for the Census Bureau, Mr.
Bositis said.

John Allen Poulos, a Temple University mathematics professor who
specializes in probability and statistics, criticized such methods, saying
that using exit polls to detect the minute gap between Mr. Gore and Mr.
Bush in Florida was like trying to measure the difference between two
bacteria with a yardstick

[CTRL] FC: Australian university shuts web site critical of health minister (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread Yardbird

-Caveat Lector-

*

From: geert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LaTrobe pharmaceutical web site shutdown


From: Danny Yee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: [LINK] LaTrobe pharmaceutical web site shutdown
 
   Lecturer charged over uni website
   AN academic website protesting against Federal Health Minister
   Michael Wooldridge's allegedly close relationship with the
   pharmaceutical industry has been shut down by La Trobe University.
  
  
http://australianit.news.com.au/common/storyPage/0,3811,2304103%5E442,00.htm
l
http://users.bigpond.net.au/Medreach/
 
  That bigpond URL has gone, but try
  http://www.google.com/search?q=%22minister+for+pfizer%22
  and the cache of the first result from that.
 
  This isn't an academic wacko on some esoteric crusade. This is part
  of a serious site (the Health Equity Coalition, apparently a joint
  venture between LaTrobe RMIT and Monash staff) providing really
  important information, and I can't see how shutting the entire site
  down (rather than asking for allegedly libellous wording to be changed)
  could possibly be justified.
 
  If this has happened as a result of Federal government intervention,
  heads should roll.  The NTEU should FOI LaTrobe pronto.
 
  Some excerpts from the site follow.  (I hope this doesn't get you
  into trouble over the web archives, Tony, but I really can't see how
  referring to Wooldridge as Minister for Pfizer can be actionable.)
 
  From the page that used to be at
  http://www-sph.health.latrobe.edu.au/PBAC/
  | This site collates published and unpublished material about the
  | Australian Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), initially stimulated
  | by the controversy over changes to the membership of its Pharmaceutical
  | Benefits Advisory Committee (PBAC). The aim was to explore the claim
  | that these changes represent a hijack of the PBAC by the multinational
  | pharmaceutical industry, aided and abetted by  the current Federal
  | Health Minister: Dr. Michael Wooldridge (Minister for Pfizer).
  |
  | Subsequently, we have added material about the unsustainable growth of
  | the PBS (14%-16% per annum) costing the Australian taxpayer A$3.45
  | billion in 1999/2000).
  |
  | In addition, we collect material about relevant international policy
  | aimed at improving equity of access to necessary drugs.
  |
  | We trust this resource will assist an informed public policy debate
  | about the PBS and related pharmaceutical policy matters. Many thanks to
  | the numerous colleagues who have submitted material to help this
  | process. Please keep it coming.
 
  And from the page that used to be at
  http://www-sph.health.latrobe.edu.au/HEC/pharmaceuticals.htm
 
  | Background
  |
  | This section of the site collates published and unpublished material
  | about the Australian Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS), especially
  | the current controversy over changes to the membership of its
  | Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee (PBAC).
  |
  | It does not pretend to do justice to the media coverage, which has
  | been extensive.
  |
  | The aim is to explore the claim that these changes represent a hijack
  | of the PBAC by the multinational pharmaceutical industry, aided and
  | abetted by the current Federal Health Minister: Dr. Michael Wooldridge
  | (Minister for Pfizer).
  |
  | We trust this resource will assist an informed public policy debate
  | about this matter. Many thanks to the numerous colleagues who have
  | submitted material to help this process. Please keep it coming.
  |
  | Resource material
  |
  |
  | The Australian Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (PBS) Background Paper
  |
  | ABC-TV  Radio Coverage
  |
  | Articles in medical and lay press
  |
  | Letters to the press, listservers, this forum, etc.
  |
  | Organisation positions
  |
  | Other material (on AIDS drug availability, patents, the pharmaceutical
  | industry, TRIPS, WTO, NGOs and essential drugs)
  |
  | Pharmaceutical policy documents and suggestions  (Government and other
sites)
  |
  | Cartoons
  |
  |
  | Educational Material for Download
  |
  |
  | Consumer /or Patient PBS Primer leaflet  (MS WORD DOC, 28K)
  |
  | Consumer /or Patient PBS Question  Answer leaflet (MS WORD DOC, 30K)
  |
  | Letter for physicians /or pharmacists to give to drug reps (MS WORD
DOC, 22K)
  |
  |
  | There is concern that these changes to the PBAC will result in
  | more costly drugs (with more marginal benefits) being added to
  | the PBS. This, in turn, will lead to a PBS cost blow-out which the
  | government will then pass on to consumers via higher co-payments or
  | other strategies. The end result will be that poorer Australians will
  | no longer have access to necessary drugs.
 
  Danny.
---
http://dannyreviews.com/ - more than five hundred book reviews
http://www.caa.org.au/ - working for an 

[CTRL] FC: Are underskirt cams video voyeurism or free speech? (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread Yardbird

-Caveat Lector-

This line from the opinion is particularly memorable:
Up-skirt video voyeurism is apparently a thriving internet business, with
about a hundred web sites devoted to up-skirt and other candid body shots
of unsuspecting female victims in public places.

-Declan



http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=wavol=2001_app/19111-7invol=3

Filed July 5, 2001

Washington's voyeurism statute, RCW 9A.44.115, prohibits the photographing
of a person without that person's knowledge and consent in a place where
he or she would have a reasonable expectation of privacy. The statute then
defines one such place as [a] place where one may reasonably expect to be
safe from . . . hostile intrusion . . . . RCW 9A.44.115(1)(b)(ii). Sean T.
Glas was caught photographing up women's skirts at a public shopping mall
in Union Gap, Washington. The State charged him with violating the
voyeurism statute. He claims the statute is constitutionally defective
because it is vague (what is a hostile intrusion). He also argues that,
looked at facially (not as applied to him), it is overbroad. We conclude
that the statute passes constitutional muster. It is neither vague nor
overbroad as applied here or facially. We therefore affirm Mr. Glas's
conviction for violation of Washington's voyeurism statute.

...

Sean T. Glas took photographs under the skirts of two women. Both were
employees at the Valley Mall in Union Gap. The State charged him with two
counts of voyeurism. The pertinent statute defines voyeurism as taking
photographs for the sexual gratification of any person in a place where the
subject has a reasonable expectation of privacy and without the subject's
consent. RCW 9A.44.115(2). Mr. Glas argued that the women had no reasonable
expectation of privacy in a public mall, and there was no evidence he was
sexually aroused or gratified by his conduct. He moved to dismiss the
prosecution. The court denied his motion.

After a bench trial, the court found that Mr. Glas took photographs up each
woman's skirt without her consent or knowledge. Each woman had a
reasonable expectation of privacy while at her workplace to be free from
non-consensual photographing up underneath her skirt. Clerk's Papers (CP)
at 47, 48. The court found the photographs were hostile intrusions that
violated the privacy interest and expectation of the women and that the
pictures were taken to arouse or gratify sexual desire on an internet web
site.

Mr. Glas was convicted of two counts of voyeurism. He appealed. Our
commissioner refused to affirm on the merits based on the absence of prior
judicial interpretation of the voyeurism statute and Mr. Glas's
constitutional challenge.

...

The Statute A person commits the crime of voyeurism if, for the purpose of
arousing or gratifying the sexual desire of any person, he or she knowingly
views, photographs, or films another person, without that person's
knowledge and consent, while the person being viewed, photographed, or
filmed is in a place where he or she would have a reasonable expectation of
privacy.

...

Up-skirt video voyeurism is apparently a thriving internet business, with
about a hundred web sites devoted to up-skirt and other candid body shots
of unsuspecting female victims in public places. Professionals employed by
these sites and amateur contributors are part of a cottage industry of
stalking and secretly filming victims and disseminating the images on the
internet. David D. Kremenetsky, Insatiable Up-Skirt Voyeurs Force
California Lawmakers to Expand Privacy Protection in Public Places, 31
McGeorge L. Rev. 285, 287 (2000).

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[CTRL] FC: American Family Association continues porn attack on Yahoo (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread Yardbird

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[This is what Yahoo gets for caving in to pressure earlier this year. Now
anti-porn groups can come back every week (Patrick has sent me at least two
very similar press releases recently), identify discussion groups that are
purportedly offensive, and compel Yahoo to take action. Since discussion
areas can be created without human intervention, it's an infinite loop. And
even if Patrick is successful, he'll merely succeed in driving the
participants back to Usenet. Finally, if child porn exists, that's one
thing -- but fantasies that Patrick finds distasteful are still protected
by the First Amendment and perhaps even Yahoo's terms of service. --Declan]

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From: ptrueman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Yahoo porn
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:14:40 -0400

AMERICAN
FAMILY
ASSOCIATION  
   Washington,
D.C. Office
 PRESS RELEASE
 Contact:
Patrick Trueman
 (202)
544-0061

For Immediate ReleaseJuly 10, 2001


YAHOO! STILL HAS RAPE, ORGY, CHILD PORN CLUBS OPEN TO ALL
AMERICAN FAMILY ASSOC. SAYS

Yahoo!'s Rape Stories Fantasy Club should be shut down immediately,
said Patrick Trueman of American Family Association.  The club contains
photos titled Raped and Group Rape showing scared-looking, naked women
handcuffed, bound, held down and raped.  The club is described on Yahoo! as
a great place to exchange rape stories and fantasies.  Here is a portion
of one story: I stand in the bushes and watch you fumble with you keys…
You should know better than to not have them ready when you go into the
house …  I throw your lifeless body over my shoulder and carry you into
the house. I tie your four limbs securely to the bed.  I grab my knife…
Why do Yahoo! executives encourage such despicable material by providing
resources to the perverted people who enjoy the thought of raping women, 
asked Trueman.  Yahoo! also has many orgy clubs including teen orgy clubs,
complete with group sex photos, solicitations for new members and dates and
locations of upcoming orgies.

Child pornography can still be found on Yahoo!  It appears that Yahoo! is
providing free space in its clubs and GeoCities sites for many for-profit
child pornography web sites, said Trueman. Pictures of children in
sexually explicit poses are provided in some and all have links to sites
outside of Yahoo! that offer child pornography.

Yahoo! must choose whether it wants to be a family friendly business or
not, Trueman said.  If it does, it should eliminate all pornographic
clubs and GeoCities sites on its servers. Yahoo!'s current policy
encourages users to post every variety of pornography, including photos of
rape, orgy and child pornography, he added.

  Yahoo! should not be allowed to profit from the sexual exploitation of
children and women.   Trueman said.  It is not only offensive but it is
often illegal, he added.  He is AFA's director of governmental affairs,
and was chief of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section, Criminal
Division, U.S. Department of Justice, from 1988 to 1992.   AFA has written
to Attorney General Ashcroft to ask that Yahoo! be prosecuted for child
pornography and obscenity violations.

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[CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton

2001-07-11 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 09:56 AM 7/10/01 -0400, Samantha L. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Then show a source that Gore used Horton. I showed a source that Gore used
the furough program and that Bush people made it racial by specifically
drawing in Horton.

Samantha

My source is Prudy. She graciously conceded the point that Gore used the
Willie
Horton issue in his campaign against Dukakis.
When Bush used the Willie Horton issue in the SUBSEQUENT campaign against
Dukakis, the liberals-in-denial suddenly noticed that Horton was -- er,
well -- BLACK!

News flash to liberals-in-denial: Horton was likewise very much BLACK when
Gore  threw up the issue against Dukakis.

Gore was covertly appealing to the white Democrat blue collar workers in
South Boston.

If you didn't notice that, how can anyone have any confidence that you
would notice
ANYTHING?

Gore is no friend of Blacks. He merely exploits blacks for photo-ops and
racialist morality tales for consumption by sanctimonious airheads. Go read
up on his
insulting and demeaning treatment of the Black family who rented a house on
the Gore homestead in Tennessee.

DBC

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[CTRL] Socialized medicine in America

2001-07-11 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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These drug users are imprisoned and used as slave labor. The US is a
socialist society, eh? Then why don't we have socialized medicine and why
have all the social programs been gutted?

Samantha


Oh, but we DO have socialized medicine! Medicare! State programs like MediCal.
County hospitals. City hospitals.

Hospital emergency rooms MUST treat anyone that shows up for treatment. It's
the law. Have you visited an emergency room recently. They are the primary
medical care facilities for the underclass.

And if all the social programs have been gutted (which is absurd) then it
must have happened under the regime of Bill and Hillary Clinton because Bush
hasn't passed a budget yet.

DBC

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[CTRL] George Bush Hires Psychics

2001-07-11 Thread Aleisha Saba

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It is alleged in THE SUN.

Well why not, for a friend just dropped this paper off to me and wanted
to know, what I thought.

Well his predictions which some will call prophecies it is all Good
Newspositive propaganda.

Remember the Tokyo Rose of Washington Square, Jean Dixon who prophecied
only evil to the Kennedys and oh such nice things for those that paid
for her services?

I kept her out of Columbus, Ohio for over 10 years, which was one of her
big tromping grounds but little did she know that the person who really
did her astrology column, called upon me to tell the true story about
that one for when she left Columbus, Ohio that day when the soothsaying
charge was filed (by me) she screamed at reporters and TV newsmen at the
airport - I Am Not An Astrologer - ask your Columbus Dispatch about
that..

So two can play at the game, right?   For Jean Dixon was NOT on the
Republican Payroll; she worked for the KGB without a doubt and the one
big giveaway was RUSSIA WILL BEAT US TO THE MOON.now her other
connections were as plain as the nose on her peasant face.

As the old King said in the Old Testament

Did I not tell you he would prophecy only evil to me and no good?

Propaganda equates to prophecy - and wouldn't you know some of these
fascist pigs still hang onto every word of Nostradamus..all his work
is subject to translation and is like two edged sword, cuts both
ways.

Sample of the works of Nostradamus?]

first he said world would end in 1666 - and boy when it did not and he
was still alive to avoid being called a phoney prophet he said - oh no I
meant the world would end in 1999 and he turned the six upside
down...

So the world did not end in 1999 and there are some so disappointed.

Reminded me of this guy who lived in 20th century who got all these
people to first give him their money, an he dressed them in little white
robes, and took them to the mountain top for the world was to end.
Well, the world did not end - and these people almost killed him.

So much for divine prophetess - those who spread seeds of death and
destruction for you see today the KGB marking Bush for
murder...Osama is going to get him?

Better someone let that stupid bastard Putin know it won't work this
time.once was enough in Dallas.

Saba

So George Bush is a very positive man - like Gerald Ford in his own
simple way wanted people to WIN..who the hell wants a bunch of born
again losers permeating the air we breathe with doom and gloom.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [smashthestate] Fw: Drug Trafficking by the US National Security Council

2001-07-11 Thread Kris Millegan





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From: joe6pk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: joesHotmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: Drug Trafficking by the US National Security Council


Let's figure this out. The government brings the drugs into the country.
Then our state Governor's create a Joint Task Force that includes the
following: A STATE Drug Czar who wears two hats; National Guard AND active
duty Military, YOUR Sheriff Officers ( active and reserve) , STATE Bureau's
of Investigation, Federal AGENTS etc.
 Today they trample OUR RIGHTS to get those evil drugs they brought in, off
the streets. ( checkpoints, traffic stops and searches ). Tomorrow the same
gangs will be used to get those evil guns out of OUR hands.

Citizen joe 6pk Amer I CAN/ smell Joint Task Force stench
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Costa Rica, Past  Present
Part 1: Drug Trafficking by the US National Security Council
by Zola
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/lfctimes/cr_drugs1.htm

We call it the Ollie North International Airport. I have flown in and out of
it many times. It lies out on the Pacific coast of Costa Rica, near Nosara.
It is a tiny airstrip for small planes, originally constructed for training
(touch-and-go exercises) and for refueling.

It is one of about eight airstrips built by Oliver North in Costa Rica for
support of the Contras. And, as it turns out, it is one of the reasons that
three individuals working for the US National Security Council, along with
the US ambassador and the local CIA Chief of Station, were barred from Costa
Rica for narcotrafficking.

I had heard rumors about this on the Internet. One hears many things on the
Internet-some of them true, some of them not. It is not always easy to get
the facts. This has been the case especially since a CIA-drugs research
industry emerged. Some of the kingpins of this research group are into
exposure for the same reason that Elmer Gantry was into religion, or that
Christine Keeler was into politicians: namely, it's way to make a buck. So
they deliver fire and brimstone, and then pass the collection plate. They
aren't very concerned whether their information is accurate-only that it
supports their thesis.

So I went digging for verification, and found it in the archives of the
Costa Rican legislative assembly (Asamblea Legislativa). A special
commission had been appointed to investigate the facts concerning
narcotrafficking in Costa Rica (Comision Especial Nombrada para Investigar
los Hechos Denunciados Sobre Narcotrafico), and it issued its final report
on July 20, 1989 in San Jose (Expediente 10.684, Informe Final, San Jose, 20
de Julio de 1989). It wasn't easy to find: they had buried the report down
here also.

Recommendation number 13 reads:


13. Que el señor Lewis Tambs, Joe Fernández, Oliver North, John M.
Poindexter, Richard V. Secord, no se les permita la entrada al pais. [p. 74]
Here we have three individuals associated with the US National Security
Council-John M. Poindexter, Oliver North, Richard V. Secord-as well as the
local CIA Chief of Station, Joe Fernández, and the US Ambassador to Costa
Rica, Lewis Tambs, all barred from the country. Fifty members of the
legislative assembly voted to approve the report with its recommendations.
Two members did not. One of these two-Leonel Salazar Villalobos-is now
himself in prison for narcotrafficking.

General Manuel Noriega of Panama is important to the story. Noriega was the
key to drug transport through Central America during the early to mid-1980s.
My story, however, will not stop with the Costa Rican legislative report of
July 1989. Rather, it will be brought forward to the present day, to the
year 2001. For there is a new drug kingpin in town, a new General Noriega,
a new man who is key to the Central American transport and distribution
zone. In due course in this series I will name him, and I will back up my
assertions with documented facts.

But first things first. Let's begin in the 1980s when Oliver North opened up
a narcotrafficking pipeline through Costa Rica. The pipeline is still here,
and Ollie North is still persona non grata.


The Southern Front, Noriega, and North
It is a simple fact of geography that Costa Rica lies between Panama, to the
south, and Nicaragua, to the north. The Southern Front were the Contras
under Eden Pastora on the southern border of Nicaragua-in the northern
frontier of Costa Rica. North's objective was to supply them with arms,
food, fuel, and whatever else was needed to fight the Sandanistas. In this
respect, there was already remnants of a network in place-one that had been
used previously to supply the Sandanistas themselves against the Nicaraguan
government of Somoza. This group was already experienced in dealing with the
logistic problems.

A key person used by North in organizing the Southern Front was John Floyd
Hull Clark (John Hull), who had lived in Costa Rica for about 20 years at
the time he applied for Costa Rican citizenship in 1983. Sometime in the

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] A Personal Plea For Help From Mike Ruppert

2001-07-11 Thread Kris Millegan





July 10, 2001

Dear Friend of From The Wilderness:

This letter is sent to those friends, supporters and subscribers who have
been with me from the beginning. It is not intended to be an indiscriminate
mass mailing but you may forward it as you see fit.

I regret to advise you that, barring a miracle, From The Wilderness, the
newsletter, and my web site are on their last legs. This emergency is the
result of a business venture gone sour and has a second equally tragic set
of circumstances attached to it.

For more than 18 months I have worked hard to fulfill the plan to make
Suppressed Writers a reality. Our first venture was to have been the
republication of a classic and little known work by Professor Peter Dale
Scott, PhD. of UC Berkeley called The War Conspiracy (TWC). That 1972 book
contained more detailed information on the manufacture of the Vietnam War
than most of us have ever seen. It contains awesome research on CIA
connections to the drug trade from the 1950s through the early 70s. It has
been out of print for almost 30 years now, having been quickly shuffled
aside after it was published.

Eighteen months ago, a partner and cherished friend began the arduous task
of scanning and reformatting the text of TWC. As he did, Peter Dale Scott
began making, what were at first, small improvements to the original text
and some comparisons with present-day Colombia. That process eventually
produced a powerful and indispensable new book entitled Colombia and
Vietnam: Deep Politics and the War Conspiracy. This new book is worthy of a
major publisher but in this day and age - much as in the Vietnam era - there
are none, it seems, to be found with the will to tell the truth.

Approximately nine months ago an investor came forward. He was a man with
whom I had gone to high school. He agreed to finance the project, secure a
competent project manager, provide funding for advertising and see FTW
incorporated as a real publishing house. Over the course of the next five
months, as a show of sincerity, he purchased FTW a computer, donated a
laptop, assisted in cover design, and put forth more than $3,000.00 in cash.
Yet, after four dates certain for him to produce a lawyer, finish the
incorporation and then secure FTW lines of credit, he suddenly withdrew
citing personal reasons. This was about two months ago. I have not heard
from him since.

The tragedy is that I had, based upon the belief that my friend would come
through, invested everything I had, going deeply into debt and laying aside
any other plans for expansion or increased sales.  I put all I had in the
pot for this one project. The result is that we have produced a finished,
world-class book at a critical moment in history and FTW is now totally
unable to publish it. What's worse, our entire operation is now in jeopardy.

This is not about asking for money so that I or FTW can publish Peter's
magnificent work. The book is far too important to place in the hands of an
operation where there is only me and one assistant and it would be an insult
to the work to try to e-publish the book on a shoestring. No one would know
of it. As a result of the investor withdrawing I am now consumed with the
chores of keeping a roof over my head, over the head of my mother and
staving off bankruptcy and the end of FTW. Accordingly, I have released
Peter from his contract and he is now free to take the new book anywhere he
chooses. I will derive no financial benefit from that deal, if and when it
takes place. Mike L, my cherished friend - who put in hundreds of hours to
layout and proofread the book - and Peter both deserve the money. Perhaps
most importantly the people of Colombia desperately deserve for the book to
be released - NOW.

Again, I must stress that I do not want to be contacted with ideas about how
I can publish this book. The task is beyond me. I will welcome any contacts
with major publishers and any doors that might be knocked on that I can
forward to Peter. I am no longer able to consider publishing the book.

My problem is the simplest. All I need is money. Without it I will have to
go silent.

FTW has begun a major three-part series on AIG, ADFA, Goldman Sachs and
Carlos Lehder. Our ability to complete this important work is now in
question. The survival of FTW is, in fact, in question. We may not even have
the necessary money to mail next month. Our second computer is down. We are
past due on a $660 quarterly lease payment for our mailing machine. The
credit card payments are now, as a result of our investment in the
Suppressed Writers project, more than $900 a month. I have no medical
insurance. I cannot afford to pay my assistant. The phone bills are over
$500 and I have been working 100 hour weeks lately to hold it together and
research the critical three-part series, Hostages. My health is suffering
as a result.

Also, my ailing mother has invested in this project and I must now look to
my responsibilities to her in the wake of these tragic 

[CTRL] Fwd: MENA VIDEO boys on the tracks case [Judgment reversed]

2001-07-11 Thread Kris Millegan




Title: Blank



Wednesday, July 11, 2001 

THE BOYS ON THE TRACKS CASE Libel judgment reversed on appeal Court 
rules Arkansas deputies public figures without standing 

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com 

A federal appeals court yesterday threw out a defamation judgment against a 
filmmaker critical of former President Clintons alleged role in the infamous 
Arkansas "boys on the tracks" case, ruling two sheriff's deputies mentioned in 
the documentary had no standing to sue. 

In dismissing a $598,750 judgment against Patrick Matrisciana, president of 
Jeremiah Films, the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis concluded the 
deputies were indeed public figures and failed to prove the documentary was 
reckless in its portrayal of them as law enforcement officers implicated in the 
murders of two young boys and a subsequent cover-up of their deaths. 

The video, "Obstruction of Justice: the Mena Connection,'' focused on the 
unsolved deaths of Kevin Ives and Don Henry. In the documentary, Pulaski County 
sheriff's Lts. Jay Campbell and Kirk Lane were listed among six law enforcement 
officers that alleged eyewitnesses said could be implicated "in the murders and 
the subsequent cover-up.'' 

The court said the sheriff's lieutenants were public figures and had to 
prove Matrisciana knew the information was false or that he was reckless in 
weighing information presented in the film. 

Ives and Henry were found dead in 1987 after being hit by a train while 
laying on the tracks. Their deaths were initially ruled accidental due to 
marijuana intoxication, but after a second autopsy a lawsuit filed by Ives' 
parents suggested the boys were murdered and their bodies laid on the tracks. 


"As the theory goes, they were first killed and their bodies then laid on 
the tracks to make their deaths appear accidental,'' the court wrote. 

Matrisciana's defense at his trial centered on his right to freedom of 
expression. 

He said that, according to his research, the boys were walking down the 
train tracks about 4 a.m. Aug. 23, 1987, when they came upon a small plane 
dropping a cargo of illegal drugs as it flew without lights 100 feet from the 
ground. A witness reported seeing the boys seized by two men, and their bodies 
were found after they had been run over by a train. 

The documentary alleged that illegal drugs were routinely flown into the 
airport at Mena in western Arkansas during the 1980s and that Clinton, then 
Arkansas' governor, knew about it but did nothing to combat it. 

Matrisciana, who also produced "The Clinton Chronicles,'' which took a 
highly critical view of the former president, said in a telephone interview from 
Los Angeles that justice had been served. 

WND Editor Joseph Farah, who served as an expert witness on journalistic 
standards and practices for the defense in the 1999 case, characterized the 
verdict as a victory for the First Amendment. 

There was a big problem with the jury verdict from the start, said Farah. 
For starters, the cops were indeed investigated by law enforcement officials in 
Arkansas. An eyewitness placed them at the scene for Jean Duffey, a former 
Saline County prosecutor herself, and Linda Ives, the mother of one of the boys, 
both of whom participated in the making of the video. Furthermore, even if the 
cops were innocent of any involvement in the case, they were not libeled by the 
video, because there was no reckless disregard for the truth by the 
filmmakers, as I testified in the trial. 

Farah also said the case has some striking parallels to a $165 million 
defamation suit pending against WorldNetDaily over an 18-part investigative 
series into political corruption in Tennessee involving former Vice President Al 
Gore. A legal defense fund has been established on behalf of WorldNetDaily. 

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[CTRL] Liberty Lobby goes under, ends Spotlight publication

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Liberty Lobby goes under, ends Spotlight publication
By Andrea Billups
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

 Liberty Lobby has closed its doors and its weekly newspaper, the
Spotlight, has published its last edition after a federal bankruptcy judge
last week dismissed the group's latest claim for Chapter 11 protection.

 The most recent ruling by U.S. bankruptcy Judge S. Martin Teel Jr. puts
an end to a complicated eight-year battle between Liberty Lobby founder
Willis A. Carto and his former associates at the California-based Institute
for Historical Review (IHR).

 IHR sued and won a multimillion-dollar judgment on claims that Mr. Carto
illegally diverted funds from the institute's Texas parent company, the
Legion for the Survival of Freedom.

 Mr. Carto, a resident of Escondido, Calif., founded the Washington-based
Liberty Lobby in 1955. The nonprofit outfit and its publication, the
Spotlight, funded by outside donations and subscriptions, claimed to be
America's key defender of patriotism and a hub for grass-roots conservative
activism. But they also have been criticized as a fertile breeding ground for
the views of anti-government extremists, conspiracists and racists.

 Yesterday, as about 25 employees gathered personal belongings and
wrapped up last-minute business at the Liberty Lobby offices, located at 300
Independence Ave., a spokesman defended Mr. Carto and vowed to fight on.

 Nobody is really that sad, but everybody is mad, said spokesman
William Francis. While Liberty Lobby may be dissolved, nobody has given up
here. We know that we did nothing wrong as an institution. Everybody has
complete faith in Mr. Carto and how he administered the funds.
 While offering few specifics, Mr. Francis hinted that a new incarnation
of the Spotlight was already in the works.

 They may come in and shut us down, but the staff are fully committed to
make new efforts to get something going. Over the last several days, we've
had hundreds of phone calls to the office, pledges of hundreds of thousands
of dollars to set up a new newspaper, he said. We have a citizens army
behind us.

 Mark Weber, director of IHR, said the ruling may signal the end of
Liberty Lobby, but he predicts Mr. Carto will endure with some other venture.

 This is a welcome culmination of an exhausting, costly, bitter legal
and public relations dispute, said Mr. Weber, who has been assailed in the
pages of the Spotlight as a rat, weasel, toilet bowl, cockroach and
devil.

 Mr. Francis yesterday reiterated his claims that IHR plans to sell one
of the Liberty Lobby's final assets, its subscriber mailing list, to such
watchdog organizations as the Southern Poverty Law Center and the
Anti-Defamation League, which have been critical of both feuding groups.

 It's a lie, Mr. Weber said of those claims.

 Liberty Lobby once sued the Wall Street Journal for having called the
organization anti-Semitic. But Judge Robert Bork dismissed the suit in
1984, declaring, If anti-Semitism has a core, factual meaning, it was
demonstrated here.

 Mr. Carto, a 74-year-old native of Fort Wayne, Ind., has been called
the most influential anti-Semite in the United States. About 90,000 people
are paid subscribers to the Spotlight, which in 1981 had an estimated
readership of more than 300,000.

 The weekly's favorite political targets included the Rockefellers, the
Rothschilds, Henry Kissinger, the Council on Foreign Relations and the
'Zionist entity' in Palestine, according to author Dennis King.

 Mr. Carto played a key role in co-founding IHR in 1978. The
Anti-Defamation League has called IHR the world's single most important
outlet for Holocaust-denial propaganda

 Mr. Carto was ousted by IHR's board of directors in September 1993 after
the staff complained, among other things, of Mr. Carto's interference in
editorial decisions for the Journal of Historical Review, an IHR publication.





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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: MENA VIDEO boys on the tracks case [Judgment reversed]

2001-07-11 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Boy this is a good story and good news;  those two kids in Mena will not
be shuffled behind the door - as Shakespeare wrote I am sent with broom
before, to sweep the dust behind the door - it won't work 

And if the person who typed that story will learn how to hit the quote
key instead of that question mark for that has become his trademark (or
possibly her tradement.

Anyway - trail of body bags gets longer and longer and always drugs -
one can see why Barry Seal was silenced gangland fashion - they had so
much power did not even try to cover the deed with an accident?

Keep in mind to this Lasater involved down in  Little Rock meeting with
Gary Condit night before little Chandra Levy disappeared?

To see Gary Condit on TV - he looks like one scared fellow..little
twerp.

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Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton

2001-07-11 Thread Nessie

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My source is Prudy. She graciously conceded the point that Gore used
the Willie Horton issue in his campaign against Dukakis.


No she didn't. She said that Gore used the furlough issue and that later
Bush seized on this issue and made it racial by introducing the case of
Horton.

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[CTRL] Hispanics Must be Liberals?

2001-07-11 Thread Yardbird

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A no-good conservative
 Here's today's political diversity quiz: When is an Hispanic-American
not really Hispanic?
 Answer: When he's one of President Bush's potential nominees to the
U.S. Supreme Court, the Wall Street Journal says.
 We're referring to 39-year-old Miguel Estrada, who immigrated from
Honduras at age 17, taught himself English, graduated from Harvard Law,
argued cases before the Supreme Court as a deputy in the U.S. Solicitor
General's office and is now a private attorney. Mr. Bush has nominated him
for a seat on the prestigious D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, the newspaper
said in an editorial.
 This sounds like an American success story to us. But to some Hispanic
liberals, ideology is thicker than skin pigment. You see, Mr. Estrada is a
judicial conservative, which means he's the wrong kind of diversity hire.
 Juan Figueroa, president of the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education
Fund, has denounced Mr. Estrada as one of those no-good conservative
Hispanics. He made his complaint in a letter to Sen. Patrick J. Leahy,
Vermont Democrat and chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
 The Journal editorial page phoned Mr. Figueroa, who told them that Mr.
Estrada is a member of the conservative Federalist Society and I don't think
Latinos have been generally known to be conservative.
 The Journal commented: So there it is. The only real Latino is a
liberal Latino.

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Re: [CTRL] Socialized medicine in America

2001-07-11 Thread Nessie

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Have you visited an emergency room recently. They are the primary
medical care facilities for the underclass.


If America had socialized medicine, emergency rooms wouldn’t be the
primary care facilities for the underclass because there wouldn’t be
forty million people without coverage. You throw the word “socialist”
around as if you knew what it meant. Go buy a dictionary.

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[CTRL] Whittaker Chambers: Compassionate Conservative

2001-07-11 Thread Yardbird

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G.O.P. Devotees Pay Honor to Whittaker Chambers

By ELAINE SCIOLINO

WASHINGTON, July 9 — The passion for Whittaker Chambers burns brightly in the
Bush White House.

On the 40th anniversary of his death, Mr. Chambers, the onetime Communist spy
who denounced Alger Hiss as a fellow member of an elite Washington espionage
cell, was lionized today as a compassionate conservative and loyal
Republican. He was remembered at a private event in the Old Executive Office
Building organized by a White House aide and prominent Republicans and
conservatives.

Sam Tanenhaus, author of the biography Whittaker Chambers, (Random House,
1998) and one of four speakers at the event, said in an interview: Chambers
was not just the witness against Alger Hiss, but was also one of the
articulators of the modern conservative philosophy, a philosophy that has
something to do with restoring the spiritual values of politics.

During the 90-minute private commemoration of Mr. Chambers, which was closed
to the news media, William F. Buckley Jr., the founder of National Review,
recalled Mr. Chambers's days as an editor there. He described Mr. Chambers as
a man whose worldview was constantly in motion and who eventually settled
on an activist politics of the right, according to a copy of Mr. Buckley's
remarks.

I am not a conservative, Mr. Buckley quoted Mr. Chambers as writing in his
letter of resignation from National Review in 1959. I am a man of the Right.
I shall vote the straight Republican ticket for as long as I live.

Neither President Bush nor Vice President Dick Cheney was at today's event,
which was attended by about 100 invited guests.

The genesis of the event was a conversation between Mr. Buckley and his old
sailing partner, Timothy S. Goeglein, a former aide to the religious
conservative Gary L. Bauer who serves as White House liaison to conservative
leaders.

Mr. Goeglein was among the most senior White House officials present at the
event. The White House declined to release the names of other staff or guests
in attendance.

There are folks here in the White House who are fans and devotees who were
profoundly affected by `Witness,'  said one White House official involved in
the event, referring to Mr. Chambers's best-selling memoir of his
anti-Communist conversion. So he permeates our philosophy in a broader
sense.

Mr. Chambers's implication of Mr. Hiss — and himself — as former Soviet
agents before the House Un- American Activities Committee in August 1948, led
to a slander suit by Mr. Hiss, who was convicted of perjury after two trials
and imprisoned.

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[CTRL] Enviros wil find it harder to stick property owners with the bill

2001-07-11 Thread Yardbird

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Enviros will find it harder to stick property owners with the bill.

Tuesday, July 10, 2001 12:01 a.m. EDT

As the Supreme Court closed shop for the term, it issued an opinion that
strongly reaffirmed property rights. That alone was cause for cheer. But the
court's ruling in Palazzolo v. Rhode Island also had an important side
effect: It sent a message that all of society--not just a few unlucky
landowners--must be prepared to bear the cost of environmental regulation.

Anthony Palazzolo, an 80-year-old retired auto wrecker, wanted to build on
coastal property in Rhode Island that he'd owned for 40 years. The problem?
At some point in his tenure the land had been designated protected wetlands.
Mr. Palazzolo's many requests for building permits were denied; he finally
sued for compensation. The state courts said he had no case. The U.S. Supreme
Court disagreed, and ordered Rhode Island's courts to revisit the question of
whether he is owed just compensation for the lost value of his property.

What happened to Mr. Palazzolo is an increasingly common and nefarious
practice known as a regulatory taking. The Constitution prohibits the
government from taking a citizen's land for public use, such as bridges or
roads, without just compensation. But regulatory takings are trickier: The
state doesn't actually grab your land; it just bars you from doing anything
with it. Politicians and activist groups figured out that regulatory takings
were a speedy--and extremely cheap--way of delivering on environmental
promises.

And so in Virginia, retired contractor John Taylor is unable to build a house
on a lot he owns (in the middle of a development) because it might disturb a
nearby bald eagle. In Oregon, Alvin and Marsha Seiber were made to set aside
37 acres of their 200-acre commercially harvestable forest land to protect
the northern spotted owl. And in California, vintners and farmers have found
themselves effectively barred from activity because it might hurt the
emergency-listed tiger salamander.

The difficulty here isn't necessarily that society passed laws to save the
environment. Rather, it's that one group of people--individual property
owners--are footing the bill for everyone else. Owners who have the bad
fortune of landing in the (protected) silver rice rat's natural habitat
find themselves barred from commercial enterprise and watch their land values
plummet. Property-rights groups estimate that owners have shouldered hundreds
of billions of dollars' worth of the nation's environmental good.
Property owners who fight back run into a steely opposition. Florida passed
the Bert Harris Property Act in 1995, allowing owners compensation when
restrictions cause property values to decline. Environmental groups have
vowed to overturn the law. Last year, Oregon citizens passed Measure 7, an
initiative that would provide similar financial relief. Within weeks, several
of Oregon's largest cities and counties had a lawsuit seeking to have the
measure declared unconstitutional. Politicians in the state have complained
(without irony) that the government could never afford to compensate
landowners for all the property it takes each year (by the state's own
reckoning, $5.4 billion annually).

But at least one part of government seems to be catching on to all this
rights-trampling: the courts. In addition to Palazzolo, a key precedent in
environmental law was just set in California, where farmers and ranchers in
the Tulare Lake Basin sued the state after being cut off from water between
1992 and 1994 because of endangered fish. In April, the U.S. Court of Federal
Claims held that the loss of water constituted a clear government taking of
property, and that the farmers must be compensated. The court hit the mark in
noting that the Fifth Amendment is intended to bar government from forcing
some people alone to bear public burdens which, in all fairness and justice,
should be borne by the public as a whole.

What the claims court has potentially done is to set the stage for a new era
of environmental responsibility. The key problem in America's environmental
debate is that most people have no concept of how much it costs to protect
natural resources, and so feel there's nothing to lose from more regulations.
This might start to change. The Tulare farmers say the damages for the loss
of water come to $25 million. Mr. Palazzolo--should he now win in Rhode
Island--says his lost economic opportunity is more than $3 million. Up to
now, everyone has gotten a free ride on the backs of individuals whose
property happened to be standing in the middle of the latest set-aside whim
of the local bureaucrats or activists.

In the future we may have to set some environmental priorities. The specter
of spiraling tax bills to compensate innocent property owners may cause some
long overdue second thoughts about environmentalist overreaching. That in
turn could instill some common sense into that famous phrase, earth in the

Re: [CTRL] Hispanics Must be Liberals?

2001-07-11 Thread Aleisha Saba

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Well I say this the only Latinos I have ever known have been moral men,
Catholic, and detest communists?

This Hispanic vote is going to give the NAACP and Gay Pride Sodomists
fits?

A Latino family moved into our neighbornhood in a rental house - I
reserved judgment;  at Christmas time, their house was lit up in 10,000
lights an was beautiful - it seems they are so alone, for they are a
young famly and may two famlies in same house, but these homes have 2
baths, and nice big garage.

Today I see they have put out a lot of flowers and these are good
neighbors.

Without a doubt, they are Catholic - and worked hard to afford the
$1,000 per month rent, plus utilities.

Latinos Yes,  Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton - NO WAY, Jose.

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[CTRL] Fw: Kansan, did you see the new Carl's Jr. commercial?

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Subject: Kansan, did you see the new Carl's Jr. commercial?


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 Subject: Kansan, did you see the new Carl's Jr. commercial?
 From: Anonymous Onion@my-deja.com
 Date: 7/11/01 1:10 AM Central Standard Time
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 There's a pretty lady eating a burger in a university library.
 For a brief moment, the camera shows the back of a man's athletic
 jersey.  The number?  555.
 
 What do you think that means, Kansan?
 
 Gotta go, the CLuMs are after me...again.
 
 - (Anonymous)
 

   First of all, Carl, or Karl, is a Germanic name meaning
Freeman,
 i.e., a freed slave.  This is related to Free Masons and to the
Phrygian
 cap worn by the French revolutionaries.  (In Roman antiquity freed slaves
used
 to wear a Phrygian cap.)

   If Carl is a Freeman, i.e., a Freemason, then Carl, Jr., his
son, is
 a Lewis, according to Masonic rules.  (A Lewis, the son of a
Freemason, is
 entitled to special treatment when applying for Masonic membership.)

   The name Lewis, of course, is another common form of Levi, or
Levy.

   The number 555, the height of the Washington Monument in feet,
encrypts
 the formula:

   555:  5 * 55 = 275, the number of days from March 25, the
Annunciation of
 the Virgin Mary by the Archangel Gabriel (the Conception of Jesus Christ)
to
 December 25 (the Birth of Jesus Christ).

   This period of 275 days is broken down in the Church calendar as
follows:

   From March 25 to July 13:  110 days, and a feast day of the
Archangel
 Gabriel.

   From July 13 to September 6:  55 days, and a feast day of Archangel
 Michael.

   From September 6 to October 31:  55 days, and the feast of All
Hallows
 Eve, Halloween.

   From October 31 to December 25, from Halloween to Christmas Day, 55
days:

   110 + 55 + 55 + 55 = 275

   CLuMs take these symbols of the Birth of Jesus Christ and apply them
to
 their Messiah, the Antichrist.


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[CTRL] Boycott everything

2001-07-11 Thread radman

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07-09-01

Boycott everything

By William Rivers Pitt
www.onlinejournal.com

The so-called consumer society and the politics of corporate capitalism
have created a second nature of man which ties him libidinally and
aggressively to the commodity form. The need for possessing, consuming,
handling and constantly renewing the gadgets, devices, instruments,
engines, offered to and imposed upon the people, for using these wares even
at the danger of one's own destruction, has become a 'biological' need. -
Herbert Marcuse

July 11, 2001-I am not Robert Kennedy. I was not born to a family of
American political royalty, guaranteeing that my voice be heard when I
choose to speak. I have to spend a good deal of my time working, or
sleeping in preparation for work, in order to keep the lights on and have
food. I have very little in the way of disposable income.

Robert Kennedy said that one person could make a difference. From his
Olympian height, he looked down upon all of us and saw individuals who
could cut a swath through the injustice in the world, if only we would
rouse ourselves. Down here on the ground, I stare up at Robert's marble
bust on that mountain and think, Easy for you to say, kid.

There is so very much I want to do, and I am mortally sure that this nation
is literally teeming with those who share my desire for action. But we
work. We raise kids. We take care of aging parents. Speaking bluntly, we
bust our asses all week long for that paycheck and for the few precious
weekend hours that more often than not are spent sleeping, drinking,
shopping or watching sports on the television.

It takes a massive amount of one's mental capacities to do the mundane
day-to-day activities that are required of the average American, if that
American wishes to eat, be clothed, and live inside of doors. It is
exhausting. There is that great line from the head of the Trade Services
Union about the 'boom' years of Clinton's administration: There have been
8 million new jobs created, and I've got three of them.

Where, then, do we find that space and time and energy needed to heal the
wounds we see gaping in the body and soul of our nation? They are right
there in front of us, red and bleeding, crying out for someone to do
something. Too many of us, sadly, shoulder our various burdens and turn
away with a prayer on our lips that somebody with the time will come along
and address things.

I know a way for all of us to climb up on that Olympian perch with fallen
Robert. I know a way we can make that difference. It requires sacrifice
from each of us, and thus is worthy of being called a Movement. It can be
something you do every moment of the day if you do it right. If enough of
us do this thing, and do it well, and do it faithfully, and turn others
towards it, we will bring about such a massive change as has not been seen
in this nation since the shot heard 'round the world.

Like so many great ideas and Movements, this one is simplicity itself.

Just boycott everything.

Take public transportation to work, or walk to the corner store, or figure
out a way to leave your car in the garage for the weekend. If you own an
SUV, sell it. If you are in the market for a car, look into the
gas/electric hybrids that are available. Thus, you boycott the petroleum
companies that rape our planet and soil our air.

Make your own coffee, or buy your morning cup of brew from the mom 'n pop
joint you always walk by on your way to Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts. Sure,
it's crummy brew. But you are boycotting corporate hegemony.

Turn off the God damned television. While it is on you are a vapid
receptacle for all of the invasive nonsense that is our sad and deranged
estate. By simply boycotting television, you are saying 'NO' to all the
advertisers and corporate hucksters who have sold us all down the river. If
you are a news junkie, satisfy yourself with a couple of newspapers or the
Internet. CNN hasn't told you anything that you need to know for a long,
long time.

Go out this weekend without makeup, and do not purchase any. The cosmetics
industry has perpetuated a massive crime against women, by selling to them
a destructive myth of beauty that is utterly unattainable for 99% of human
females. The vicious cycle of self-hatred begins at a very young age for
women, brought on by images proffered by the cosmetics industry in the
pages of glossy magazines. Do not allow one of your hard-earned dollars to
line the pockets of those who profit by telling you that you are not
beautiful enough.

Be aware of your purchases in the grocery store. Buy locally grown foods
whenever possible. Using the remarkable research tools of the internet,
find out which agribusinesses are selling what, and where. If you do not
like what those massive corporations are doing, do not buy their products.

Turn off the lights. Live without air conditioning whenever you can. Make a
project out of trimming your electricity bill as much as you can.

You are 

[CTRL] Secret Genetic Testing Done On Workers?

2001-07-11 Thread radman

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 From WEWS via Yahoo!,
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/wews/20010710/lo/852857_1.html

Tuesday July 10

Secret Genetic Testing Done On Workers?

CLEVELAND, July 9, 2001 -- What does your boss really
know about you? It may be more much more than you think.

In Monday's Special Assignment, NewsChannel5's Ron Regan reports that your
boss may secretly be gathering medical information that's being used to deny
you a promotion -- or even your job.

A huge corporation secretly collects blood from its workers, quietly looking
for genetic flaws. Although it sounds like the latest Michael Crichton book,
it's not.

It's real -- it's not science fiction. They are doing it, genetic-testing
target Gary Avary said.

For 27 years, Avary has worked for the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway.
But what happened to him in his small Midwestern town is sending shock waves
all the way to Washington.

It began when he had surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome. Soon, Burlington
Northern sent him and 34 others who had the surgery a letter asking for a
mysterious follow-up exam.

They were looking much deeper than carpal tunnel, Avary said. This was
just their way into our blood.

The lab took a lot of blood -- seven vials of it. Avary's wife, Janice, said
that she was suspicious before he even went for the exam.

Seven vials of blood for routine laboratory work? she said.

Janice investigated and found out that the railroad was doing genetic tests
on the workers -- and no one knew.

They never asked for any permission, Gary said.

The Avarys, along with a growing number of privacy and consumer advocates,
fear that companies could use genetic test results to cancel insurance
benefits or determine who gets a promotion.

Because if they have that information that I potentially will get cancer or
Reyes disease or ASL, they're going to use it against me, Gary said.

Burlington Northern insisted that the test was appropriate because their
workers' contracts state that the company can determine when medical
examinations are necessary. The company claims that it was looking for a
genetic predisposition to carpal tunnel syndrome. But there is no carpal
tunnel gene, WEWS reports.

When it comes to the most private of medical information, your genetic
makeup and what diseases you may be predisposed to, no one has a right to
that information except your doctor, U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich (news -
bio - voting record) said.

Kucinich said that Americans have very little protection for medical
privacy, and he's co-sponsoring a bill to change that. Medical ethicist Dr.
George Agich of the Cleveland Clinic said that in some instances, such
testing can be appropriate.

Employers certainly have some reason to engage in medical examinations, to
require employees to undergo medical examinations for safety reasons for
themselves and others, but they're not allowed to engage in fishing
expeditions, he said.

No one knows how many more companies might be doing covert testing. For the
Avarys, once was enough.

It's happening right now, Gary said.

Burlington Northern agreed to stop genetic testing after being sued by the
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. (Read more about lawsuit here)

Right now, 32 states have laws on the books protecting employees from
genetic testing -- Ohio does not.

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[CTRL] Missiles to protect summit leaders

2001-07-11 Thread radman

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Missiles to protect summit leaders

http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,7369,519925,00.html

Rory Carroll in Rome
Wednesday July 11, 2001
The Guardian

Italy has installed a missile defence system at Genoa's airport to deter
airborne attacks during next week's G8 summit, fuelling hysteria about
looming violence.
A land-based battery of rockets with a range of nine miles and an altitude
of 5,000 feet has been positioned in the latest security measure against
perceived threats from terrorists and protesters.

Unidentified planes, helicopters and balloons risk being shot down should
they drift too close to the heads of state from the group of seven leading
industrialised nations and Russia.

Colonel Alberto Battaglini, of the ministry of defence, said the precaution
was not exces sive. The measure, which was planned by the previous
government, may seem open to criticism, but in reality it is merely to act
as a deterrent against any aerial incursion during the summit.

They are little missiles ... which only have a deterrent function to
discourage any aerial-led attack and they do not present any danger to the
residents of the city, he said.

The missile system, dubbed Spada, was erected along Italy's Adriatic coast
during Nato's 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia.

More than 100,000 anti-globalisation demonstrators are expected to converge
on the northern port city during the July 20-22 summit.

Keen to avoid the chaos of Gothenburg, Prague and Seattle, the Italians will
strive for maximum control by deploying thousands of riot police, snipers
and bomb disposal teams.

Yesterday Otto Schilly, Germany's interior minister, said Italy would
resurrect internal European Union border controls to block protesters from
entering the country. I presume Italy will abandon the Schengen accord
during the G8 summit to prevent the arrival of troublemakers.

Authorities have reportedly ordered 200 body bags, established a temporary
morgue at a hospital and arranged counselling for potentially traumatised
police officers.

The airport, port and access roads will be sealed off and some leaders will
be hosted on ships in case street battles threaten their safety.

Most of the groups of activists - whose causes include environment and debt
forgiveness for poor countries - have pledged peaceful tactics but the
authorities are nervous. Fringe groups have pledged violence and street
clashes appear inevitable.

Unsourced stories of terrorist weapon hoards and sachets of HIV-infected
blood have appeared in the Italian media, stoking an atmosphere of doom.

The millionaire terrorist, Osama bin Laden, has been linked to an alleged
plot to assassinate the US president, George Bush.

Italy's prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, has inspected Genoa twice and
declared himself satisfied with the security.

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[CTRL] Slobodamnation

2001-07-11 Thread kl

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Le Maitre
Taki
Slobodamnation

The dictionary defines hypocrisy as a semblance of having publicly
approved attitudes or principles that one does not actually possess. If
you’re looking for a synonym, it’s the chorus of self-congratulations that
greeted the news of Slobodan Milosevic’s extradition two weeks ago.
Milosevic has been made out to be as nasty a tyrant and schemer as
there is, but it’s all a creation of the International Criminal Tribunal for
the former Yugoslavia—i.e., it’s pure unadulterated bullshit. In fact, I’ll
go even further. Milosevic deserves respect and admiration for his
defiant demeanor before the kangaroo court in the Hague.

Slobo is right not to recognize such a court. The Hague court is nothing
more than an arbitrary creation of the bogus international community,
which is a precursor to Big Brother, the One World Government of the
future. Make no mistake about it, dear readers, this is just the beginning
of a plan for powerful governments such as that of the United States and
its satellites to kidnap and bring to trial anyone thought to be an
impediment. The most bitter joke of all is that Milosevic’s arrest was
achieved by bribery, one billion greenbacks worth of aid to repair the
damage done to Serbia by the so-called international community’s
own war machine.

For the last decade we were fed a litany of lies by the crooks that led us
on about the causes of the savage ethnic bloodletting in the Balkans.
These are ancient hatreds based on different religions and cultures. The
conflicts started in Croatia and Slovenia in 1991, spread to Bosnia in
1992, and to Kosovo in 1998 and 1999. Now they’re threatening
Macedonia. The total number of dead after 10 years of war stands at up
to 300,000, fewer than the Rwandans managed to kill in a year and a
little more than one tenth of the Vietnamese the United States managed
to kill in 10 years. Milosevic was demonized early on by a know-nothing
media because he was a Serb-Orthodox nationalist who believed in
continuing Tito’s creation of a Serb-led Yugoslavian federation. Of
course, he didn’t do what they said he did single-handedly. Franjo
Tudjman of Croatia was more ruthless by far. So were a variety of
warlords and black marketeers who ruled by the gun and exploited the
people they pretended to protect. The Albanian gangster organization
which goes by the name of the KLA was originally financed and
protected by the United States, the short-sightedness of Uncle Sam
here reminiscent of that other conflict in Afghanistan. The biggest single
ethnic cleansing of the Balkan wars was suffered by the Serbs in the
Krajina region of Croatia, but no one is about to be arrested for that one.
Which brings me to the point I’m trying to make.

Selective justice—like justice delayed—is victor’s justice. To the media
and the public, Slobodan Milosevic is a man with blood on his hands.
He has been refused the presumption of innocence to which he’s
entitled. The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia
was set up by the United Nations, as corrupt an institution as there is,
and because it’s an expensive undertaking, the UN demands a return on
its investment. An acquittal simply won’t do.   A busybody like Kenneth
Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch—read selective human
rights watch—claims that the arrest of Milosevic is a momentous
occasion for Milosevic’s victims to see justice done. What bullshit.
Tragically, it is too late for Milosevic’s victims. Nothing will bring them
back, so why not stop the bullshit. And what about Serb victims?   In
Kosovo, for example, Serbian forces were undoubtedly guilty of sporadic
attrocities in 1998, but it was the KLA’s original violence that had
provoked them.   No KLA murderer has been or will be brought to
justice. Above all, it was NATO’s  attack on Serbia on March 24,1999
that sparked the real violence against the Albanians.

During the bombing campaign about 500 civilians were killed by NATO.
Some were killed when Serbian television in Belgrade was targeted,
others died when a Belgrade hospital was hit. These acts amount to war
crimes because NATO did not secure UN approval for its actions. Or is
it that a Croat’s life, or an Albanian’s or a Muslim Bosnian’s is worth
much more than a Serb’s? Slobo’s trial is the best political theater the
West can produce. Everybody knows that NATO will not do to Moscow
what it did to Belgrade because Moscow has a few nuclear weapons up
its sleeve. Beijing tortures Falun Gong members to death,  executes
petty criminals and sells their vital organs, shoots down student
protesters.   Is NATO about to do to Beijing what it did to Belgrade?
Robert Mugabe, the Zimbabwean dictator, instructed a battalion of
troops trained by North Korea to murder and pillage in Matabeleland in
the mid-80s. Is the Hague court about to arrest him and try him? And
what about Ariel Sharon? He was as involved in the Sabra and Shatila
massacre of Palestinian women 

Re: [CTRL] Conspiracist Jim Marrs Revealed

2001-07-11 Thread Yardbird

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 This mirrors my reactions to these books exactly. Alien Agenda was
 coherently impressive; it pulls together many alien experiences into an
 intelligible pattern. Rule by Secrecy, on the other hand, was so rife with
 misreadings of the original texts (which as an academic historian I have
 first-hand familiarity with), that most of its assertions are based on
 falsity, at least mistaken understanding. I would steer people away from
 Rule by Secrecy, and would advise them to read Alien Agenda, esp if they
 need an intro to the alien phenomenon.
 Jenny Decker
 UCLA English dept.
 Los Angeles, CA

Why should you need to steer anyone to or from a particular book? Is it
not permissable for the individual to chart their own course bookwise?
What other books do you suggest the public not read? Perhaps the notion of
a self-taught populace induces terror in your tenured heart?

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[CTRL] The Bunker

2001-07-11 Thread kl

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http://www.nypress.com/14/28/taki/bunker.cfm

The Bunker
George Szamuely
Stalin   Wasn’t Stallin’
In one of   his conversations with one-time Yugoslav Communist
leader Milovan Djilas, Stalin   observed: Churchill is the kind who, if
you don’t watch him, will slip   a kopeck out of your pocket…
Roosevelt is not like that. He dips in his   hand only for bigger coins.
But Churchill? Churchill—even for a kopeck.

As usual,   Stalin was right on the money, particularly on the nature of
the Anglo-American   special relationship. While the British act as
the brutish street enforcers,   the Americans are the big-time
mobsters who buy off courts, judges and politicians.   It was entirely in
character, therefore, that the British should have been assigned   the
task of kidnapping Slobodan Milosevic and denying him the due process
that   any citizen of a law-governed state is entitled to.

The coming   show trial in the Hague, on the other hand, with its
preordained verdict, falls   within the jurisdiction of the Americans. It is
so heartwarming to see the Anglo-Americans—those   supposed
champions of freedom under law and the sanctity of contracts—trash
every law, treaty and convention on the books as they pursue their
insane globalist   dreams. Here is what the International Covenant on
Civil and Political Rights   (ratified by both the British and the
Americans) says: Anyone who is deprived   of his liberty by arrest or
detention shall be entitled to take proceedings   before a court, in
order that court may decide without delay on the lawfulness   of his
detention and order his release if the detention is not lawful. That
went straight into the wastepaper basket as the Anglo-Americans
abducted Milosevic   before the Yugoslav courts had had a chance to
decide on the legality of his transfer. But then what is one to expect of
governments that establish kangaroo   courts like the International
Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in   flagrant violation of the
United Nations Charter?

The UN Security   Council, under relentless U.S. pressure, created
the Tribunal in 1993. It was   imposed on the countries of the former
Yugoslavia by the very powers that had   instigated the wars there.
According to the UN Charter, the Security Council   has the power to
take action only in response to a threat to peace. The Charter   does
not permit the Security Council to establish international courts of law,
  to try individuals or to circumvent the national courts of UN members.

Since   as a matter of logic the Security Council cannot delegate to
another body more   powers than it has itself, Carla del Ponte’s little
Tribunal has no legal standing whatsoever, just as Milosevic has said.
The Tribunal   has never been anything more than just another weapon
deployed by the United   States to impose its will on the Balkans. Its
creation violated every precedent   in international law. And its day-to-
day conduct violates every principle of jurisprudence and common
decency. Defendants are seized and held in detention   almost
indefinitely—thousands of miles away from friends, family and
home—before   their cases come to trial, if they ever do. Bail is hardly
ever granted. Prison   authorities read all their mail, which is often
censored, withheld or confiscated. Telephone calls are recorded. There
is no protection against self-incrimination:   A witness may object to
making any statement which might tend to incriminate   the witness.
The Chamber may, however, compel the witness to answer the
question.   There is no protection against double-jeopardy.
Prosecutors can appeal an acquittal   and can insist on the continued
detention of a defendant who has been acquitted.

Prosecutor   and court is one and the same body. There is no jury.
There is no independent   appeals body. Presumption of guilt is
automatic. Article 1 of the Tribunal’s   statute declares: The
International Tribunal shall have the power to prosecute   persons
responsible for serious violations of international humanitarian law
committed in the territory of the former Yugoslavia since 1991. Any
halfway   responsible judicial body would at least have said something
like to put on   trial persons accused of serious violations of
international humanitarian law.   The Tribunal has the right to set its
own rules on procedure and evidence. Since February 1994 its rules
have been amended no less than 20 times. The court—the
prosecutor, in other words—can reject defense counsel if it decides that
  conduct of that counsel is offensive, abusive or otherwise obstructs
the proper   conduct of the proceedings. Defense counsel, needless
to say, cannot reject prosecutors. Prosecutors can withhold vital
information from the defense.

Defendants   have virtually no right to confront their accusers.
Prosecution witnesses, for   example, have the right not to answer
questions they do not want to answer:   If the Prosecutor calls a
witness to introduce in 

[CTRL] Chomsky's proof

2001-07-11 Thread kl

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http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/Pitt062501/pitt062501.html

By William Rivers Pitt

The United States is unusual among the industrial democracies in the
rigidity of the system of ideological control—'indoctrination,' we might
say—exercised through the mass media. —Noam Chomsky

June 25, 2001—In the early morning hours of Thursday, June 22, 2001,
a man named Jared T. Bozydaj took to the streets of New Paltz, New
York, with an Intrac Arms 7.62 semi-automatic assault rifle. He fired
pointedly at police officers, wounding one officer named Jeffery Quiepo
in the arm. The shooting went on for several hours before Bozydaj was
disarmed and arrested.

Bozydaj was described as being highly upset by the execution of
Timothy McVeigh. He apparently had decided to take revenge in
McVeigh's name on the police, whom Bozydaj referred to as control
mechanisms for the government. Weapons and literature in his
apartment indicated that Bozydaj had been planning this attack for
some time.

New Paltz is a small community near the Hudson River about an hour
north of New York City. The downtown district is filled with small stores,
as well as a number of bars that cater to the students of the State
University of New York (SUNY) New Paltz, the campus of which is only
a few blocks away from where this shooting occurred. The best word to
describe the place is 'quaint.'

My girlfriend was born and raised near this town. I have spent many
drunken hours with her in the bars that now bear the bullet holes from
Bozydaj's rampage. My girlfriend's parents report that much of
downtown New Paltz is roped off with yellow police tape today. One can
see quite clearly the damage done by Bozydaj's assault rifle, and the
police believe it is a miracle that no one was killed.

One SUNY student reported that eight bullets passed through her
bedroom wall, and said that she would have been shot in the head if her
radiator had not deflected the rounds.

I discovered this story on the forums of DemocraticUnderground.com,
where someone had posted it as a topic for discussion about McVeigh-
oriented violence. I forwarded the link, a story from the Zwire news
service, to my girlfriend, for obvious reasons. She called her parents and
got the story from the ground. The local New Paltz paper, the Times-
Herald Record, covered the shooting in detail, and she sent me the link
to their story.

The next day, my girlfriend called me.I haven't seen this story in any of
the newspapers, she said. It wasn't on CNN or Peter Jennings last
night. Why do you think they aren't reporting this? Some guy shot up
my town, and shot a cop. That's news, isn't it?

I am a news junkie, and had myself noticed that this interesting and
disturbing story had not appeared anywhere in the national news media.
Using the words New Paltz and Bozydaj, I searched The New York
Times, an obvious place for this story to appear, and came up empty. I
did the same at CNN.com, The Washington Post, ABCNews.com and
several other news outlets, and found nothing.

A man, motivated by the execution of Timothy McVeigh, had gone on
an hours-long shooting rampage directed exclusively at cops in a small
New York town with a sophisticated assault rifle. He blew a hole in a
cop, and shot hell out of every storefront in the vicinity. He nearly put a
bullet through the head of a sleeping college student. Somehow, this
was not deemed newsworthy by virtually every major news outlet in
America, including the Times of New York, the state where this
shooting took place.

Why?

An immediate explanation is that the editors of these news sources
were acting out of a sense of responsibility. For most Americans, the
name Timothy McVeigh is synonymous with pure evil. It is likely that a
decision was reached among the purveyors of our information that
nothing should be published or broadcast that will give ear to those who
consider McVeigh a martyred hero. The fear, I suppose, is that if
enough of these kinds of stories get out, some of our militia-oriented
citizenry will think the Revolution is finally at hand, and take to the
streets of their own small burgs with rifles at the ready.

This kind of quiet censorship, however, raises some disturbing
questions. If unreported McVeigh-motivated shootings like this are
happening in New Paltz, where I am lucky enough to have eyes on the
ground, where else are they happening, and going unreported? I have no
friends in Akron, Butte, Silver Springs, Kissimmee, El Paso, or
Needles. Where else in America is violence like this breaking loose?
Why are we not being told of it? What else is being withheld?

Noted linguist Noam Chomsky has observed many times that the
national media is not the information-disbursing entity created by our
love for the First Amendment of the Constitution. Rather, the national
media is the propaganda wing of the status quo. The national media
tells us things in a certain way to keep our eyes on the ground, and to
keep us from 

Re: [CTRL] Slobodamnation

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Le Maitre
Taki
Slobodamnation

The dictionary defines hypocrisy as a semblance of having publicly

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Re: [CTRL] Conspiracist Jim Marrs missing link

2001-07-11 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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  Marrs' book Alien Agenda was rather good, but Rule By Secrecy was so
  disjointed I couldn't get through it. No such large number of groups
over
  such long periods of time could possibly communicate and execute such a
 vast
  conspiracy even if they could agree on an agenda, which they could never
 do.

I don't think that assertion is true.
assume telepathy - assume evil telepaths - assume non-human evil telepaths
their agenda would be to survive, use the humans to accumulate stockpiles,
destroy the humans - fight the opposition that keeps them here.

An antihuman telepathic species aka reptoids can easily squeeze any
human non-telepath out of every game in town - forever.
Thats the missing key that gels every conspiracy because at that point
the confusing multitude of groups and organisations are irrelevant -
the one consistent key is that the telepaths are above human values and
organisations.
Any human getting near the truth can be heard thinking by these beings,
and then steered away or otherwise despatched - no BIG secret ever gets out,
the Reptoids run the Animal Farm.

So I wouldn't discard Jim Marrs research discovery out of hand.
the reptoids agenda is to last till the next 'last'  battle, and divide and
conquer the dumb human herd so that it cannot determine its self.
I think the protocols of zion were written not by Jews but by telepath
Reptoids.
they were cast down here, the fallen and they have had plenty time to
confuse
and dismay the dumb dense crap DNA humanity that they hate so much.
[The protocols of zion I have found to contain an esoteric general systems
theory
taught in illuminati schools. I must also say for obvious reasons that I do
not subscribe
to holocaust denial and am not anti jewish - I believe that the human race
was never allowed
to find out that the esoteric definition of a jew and aryan are the same -
Gods noble elect,
also that there is a great war underway between two
jewish/aryan/noble/reptoid house
1. the House of Jacob  [good guys]
2. The House of Esau/Joseph]   [bad guys]

anyway thats part of my theory - the general systems theory in the protocols
is valid
it is not taught in any human university - and as far as I'm concerned - of
Reptoid origin.
If you were a bunch of elite telepaths - and you kept inbreeding the ability
in your
blueblood - then technically you could rule without hindrance until the day
that
your Power Elite faced another Power Elite that was pro-human

andrew hennessey


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Re: [CTRL] Slobodamnation

2001-07-11 Thread kl

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Re: [CTRL] Conspiracist Jim Marrs missing link

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 [The protocols of zion I have found to contain an esoteric general systems
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 taught in illuminati schools


oh simply *do* tell what you found in the protocols of zion, andrew. still
on the icke then? two weeks believing the same paradigm. well done, it is
the most consistent you have been so far.

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[CTRL] The hidden treasures of King Arthur [numerological-golden ratio-codes]

2001-07-11 Thread c.



 The 
Times TUESDAY JULY 10 2001 The 
hidden treasures of King Arthur BY ROBERT 
COCKBURN A middle-aged housewife's interpretation of 
Camelot has caused controversy in the world of medieval 
literature An Australian grandmother has made a 
sensational discovery about the legends of King Arthur and his 
court. Joan Helm, 64, believes that she has unearthed a secret 
subtext that has remained hidden for 800 years. It seems as if 
this unassuming, intensely private and shy woman has scooped the 
academic world. The original Arthurian romances, the tales 
of Camelot, King Arthur, his Queen Guinevere, Lancelot and The 
Story of the Grail, were written by a Frenchman called Chrétien de 
Troyes in the 12th century. Scholars have always been 
baffled by some of the more bizarre episodes described in the 
stories: de Troyes's heroes' fits of madness, for instance, 
strange number puzzles or the Arthurian coronation robes 
emblazoned with symbols of geometry, arithmetic, music and 
astronomy. But for eight centuries no manuscript analyst 
had been able to work out what they all meant. Enter a 
down-to-earth housewife from a Brisbane suburb. Like many people 
when they reach midlife and their children have left home, Helm 
wanted an intellectual challenge. She enrolled in an English 
literature course at Queensland University, and one of her course 
books happened to be the Arthurian Romances, translated into 
English. "As I read them I became irritated by the way 
Lancelot and others swooned into madness at the sight of 
Guinevere's golden hair," she says. "I am a mum and a grandma and 
I know what teenage boys are like. Lancelot is so excessive that I 
knew there had to be another explanation. 
"There had to be some deeper meaning to this ridiculous behaviour. 
I suspected that de Troyes was trying to convey something else but 
for some reason was disguising his meaning." 
Like a latter-day Miss Marple, Helm began a quest that was to take 
her along an academic road that was as exciting as it was fraught. 
First of all she taught herself old French so she could follow the 
legends in the original. Then she applied her mathematical brain 
(a phenomenal aptitude for numbers of which she was virtually 
unaware until she began this investigation) to the words and 
discovered a remarkable sequence of numbers that provided a key to 
unlocking some of the legends' mysteries. 
Like all good detective stories, the clue that was to unravel the 
secret treasures lay in a small detail. Sorting out photocopies of 
the manuscript's pages on her living room floor, Helm saw a huge 
grid system unfolding in its precisely numbered lines. Unexplained 
ornate capitals and events are written at line numbers that 
correspond to Greek mathematical ratios. The 
two most famous legends are Lancelot and The Story of the Grail 
(not called Holy Grail in the original). Lancelot is the tale of a 
knight torn between his love and his honour. As King Arthur's most 
trusted warrior, he falls in love with Queen Guinevere. Choosing 
love over honour, Lancelot descends into madness and becomes an 
outcast - a parallel with those who defied the Church to follow 
Platonic philosophy. Following de Troyes's 
clues, Helm found examples of classical structural and narrative 
patterns inspired by the Greek, Arab and Jewish learning being 
rediscovered by Christian Europe at the time. De Troyes was 
writing for Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine in an age of 
crusades and tumultuous change. His tales mirror their 
passions and power games but also, according to Helm, the 
scientific and philosophical discoveries that would shape the 
Western world. Such learning was condemned as heresy by the 
Church, which was swift to excommunicate overt writers such as 
Abelard (of Abelard and Héloïse fame). Does 
Helm's discovery suggest that de Troyes was being deliberately 
covert in order to avoid the Christian Church's threat of eternal 
damnation? Academics will probably argue about it for the next 
eight centuries. One of Helm's theories 
concerns an ornate, painted capital letter "E" which appears for 
no particular reason in the middle of the manuscript telling the 
story of Lancelot, or The Knight of the Cart. (No one, including 
Helm, has a theory as to why it is an E as opposed to any other 
letter.) She argues that the "E" is at line 4,401. By dividing the 
total line count of the story, 7,118, by 4,401, you arrive at the 
Greek golden ratio, 1.618 or Phi. This is the sacred geometry 
Plato said the Gods used to create the Universe. It shapes the 
spiral of the nautilus shell and the face of the sunflower and 
gives the proportions of the Parthenon and Europe's Gothic 
cathedrals. "It sounds strange today but the medieval mind 
was obsessed with the mystical power of Greek numbers and 
geometry," says Helm. "These new numerals were thought of as 
something evil because they had come from the pagan world - this 
was enough to get them banned. "When I saw 

[CTRL] THE SHOCKING MENACE OF SATELLITE SURVEILLANCE

2001-07-11 Thread c.

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From Pravda,
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/07/11/9825.html
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Pravda.RU:Main:More in detail

14:18 2001-07-11

JOHN FLEMING: THE SHOCKING MENACE OF SATELLITE SURVEILLANCE

Unknown to most of the world, satellites can perform astonishing and often
menacing feats. This should come as no surprise when one reflects on the
massive effort poured into satellite technology since the Soviet satellite
Sputnik, launched in 1957, caused panic in the U.S. A spy satellite can
monitor a person's every movement, even when the target is indoors or deep
in the interior of a building or travelling rapidly down the highway in a
car, in any kind of weather (cloudy, rainy, stormy). There is no place to
hide on the face of the earth. It takes just three satellites to blanket the
world with detection capacity. Besides tracking a person's every action and
relaying the data to a computer screen on earth, amazing powers of
satellites include reading a person's mind, monitoring conversations,
manipulating electronic instruments and physically assaulting someone with a
laser beam. Remote reading of someone's mind through satellite technology is
quite bizarre, yet it is being done; it is a reality at present, not a
chimera from a futuristic dystopia! To those who might disbelieve my
description of satellite surveillance, I'd simply cite a tried-and-true
Roman proverb: Time reveals all things (tempus omnia revelat).

Probably the most sinister aspect of satellite surveillance, certainly its
most stunning, is mind-reading. As early as 1981, G. Harry Stine (in his
book Confrontation in Space), could write that computers have read human
minds by means of deciphering the outputs of electroencephalographs (EEGs).
Early work in this area was reported by the Defense Advanced Research
Projects Agency (DARPA) in 1978. EEG's are now known to be crude sensors of
neural activity in the human brain, depending as they do upon induced
electrical currents in the skin.

Magnetoencephalographs (MEGs) have since been developed using highly
sensitive electromagnetic sensors that can directly map brain neural
activity even through even through the bones of the skull. The responses of
the visual areas of the brain have now been mapped by Kaufman and others at
Vanderbilt University. Work may already be under way in mapping the neural
activity of other portions of the human brain using the new MEG techniques.
It does not require a great deal of prognostication to forecast that the
neural electromagnetic activity of the human brain will be totally mapped
within a decade or so and that crystalline computers can be programmed to
decipher the electromagnetic neural signals.

In 1992, Newsweek reported that with powerful new devices that peer through
the skull and see the brain at work, neuroscientists seek the wellsprings of
thoughts and emotions, the genesis of intelligence and language. They hope,
in short, to read your mind. In 1994, a scientist noted that current
imaging techniques can depict physiological events in the brain which
accompany sensory perception and motor activity, as well as cognition and
speech. In order to give a satellite mind-reading capability, it only
remains to put some type of EEG-like-device on a satellite and link it with
a computer that has a data bank of brain-mapping research. I believe that
surveillance satellites began reading minds--or rather, began allowing the
minds of targets to be read--sometime in the early 1990s. Some satellites in
fact can read a person's mind from space.

JOHN FLEMING
USA

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Re: [CTRL] The hidden treasures of King Arthur [numerological-golden ratio-codes]

2001-07-11 Thread Bill Howard

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C— Where do you find this, this stuff!

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[CTRL] Another U.N. gun grab? (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread William Bacon

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http://wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=23566

Another U.N. gun grab?

By Jon Dougherty

© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Americans concerned about the preservation of the Second Amendment's
right of individuals to keep and bear arms are closely watching the
machinations of a new U.N.-sponsored arms conference that opened
yesterday in New York City.

According to U.N. propaganda, the world body wants all 189 member
nations to sign a new agreement that would obligate governments to
pass laws controlling the legal manufacture, transfer and possession of
small arms. That includes pistols, assault weapons, machine guns and
other light weapons.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but this is already being done
here in the U.S. For better or worse, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms oversees this process; one thing Americans don't need,
therefore, is another hapless bureaucracy – especially one the size of
the U.N. – to try to do the same thing.

Let's be honest about what is going on in New York City. What is really
at play here is just another attempt by the manic socialists at the
United Nations to disarm American citizens or, at a minimum, negate the
Constitution's Second Amendment.

Consider the language of the U.N.'s small arms proposals. Under the
guise of eliminating illegal small arms trafficking, the U.N. wants all
nations to basically manage every firearm on earth, from production to
sale to delivery to ownership. And, it wants governments to have the
final say as to whether or not those weapons can be owned by
individuals.

One of the measures seeks to prohibit the trade and private ownership
of small arms designed for military use, according to Fox News. Well,
gee whiz – any gun can be considered designed for military use if some
idiot in charge says it was.

So much for U.S.-owned military weapon semi-automatic rifle look-alikes,
among other guns popular with Americans.

Why does the world's foremost promoter of individualism and democracy so
fear a world full of armed citizens? Why would these leaders prefer a
world of potential victims, instead of a world full of people empowered
to protect themselves?

Because such a world would not need the meddling little Napoleons that
make up the bureaucracy of the United Nations.

The thing is, Americans don't need the U.N. to manage illegal weapons
trafficking in the United States. We have more law enforcement agencies
than we can shake a stick at as it is, and they do as good a job as can
be expected.

Also, Americans are not in need of such U.N. protection. Our Founders
wrote the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution so we could protect
ourselves instead of having to rely on our own government or, worse,
some global entity, to provide such protection.

Though they will deny it, U.N. bureaucrats have, for years, tried to
figure out a way to disarm the freest society in existence. Just look at
the U.N.'s track record when it comes to American gun ownership; you'd
be hard-pressed to find any major U.N. leader that believes Americans
should own guns at all – and especially the kinds of guns we own.

There is little chance that this small arms conference will produce an
agreement that will ultimately be used to strip Americans of their guns.
But what is troubling is that the U.N. continues to look for a way to
make that happen while far too many American leaders tolerate and assist
the effort.

  

Jon E. Dougherty is a staff reporter and columnist for WorldNetDaily,
and author of the special report, Election 2000: How the Military Vote
Was Suppressed.

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[CTRL] California mother battles system over marijuana muffins for sick child

2001-07-11 Thread Steve

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California mother battles system over marijuana muffins for sick child

Copyright © 2001 Nando Media
Copyright © 2001 Scripps Howard News Service

By WAYNE WILSON, Scripps Howard News Service

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (July 11, 2001 11:12 a.m. EDT) - A 7-year-old suffering from a
brain disorder that has wracked his body with extreme changes in mood, energy and
behavior is now at the center of a controversy that pits a caring parent against a
protective bureaucracy on the emotionally charged battlefield of medical marijuana.

It's a war being conducted behind closed doors because it involves a child who
officials want to take away from a mother who says the cannabis muffins she feeds her
son have improved his life.

For more than four years, the child had been a terror at home, unmanageable at school
and a challenge to doctors and nurses who had ministered to him during three
psychiatric hospitalizations.

And according to a Web site published by his mother, she has tried everything to
stabilize his illness, administering 19 drugs prescribed by 16 doctors over a span of
four years.

When all failed, the homepage revealed, the mother turned to a home remedy
approved by her son's pediatrician: muffins flavored by a pinch of marijuana.

Five weeks later, the results were in:

My son for the first time in his life is laughing and loving life, the 30-year-old 
Rocklin,
Calif., woman wrote. He has very little to no angry outbursts, he is compliant, is 
doing
great in school, and actually is making friends.

Not everyone is enamored of the woman's approach to her son's affliction, however.
Placer County's Child Protective Services has taken me to court, she said on the
Web site, with accusations of me abusing my son.

Authorities have filed a petition that, under Welfare and Institutions Code Section 
300,
could result in the boy's removal from his home and placement elsewhere as a
dependent of the court.

Because such proceedings are confidential under state law, neither the mother nor her
attorney would discuss the matter. County spokeswoman Anita Yoder said that the
nature of the case precluded the county from commenting.

A hearing Tuesday was just one step in a series of Juvenile Court proceedings that will
examine whether the boy is being harmed by the treatment. Neither side would say
when the next hearing would be.

Proponents of medical marijuana have picked up on the controversy and are criticizing
the county for overreaching in its war against Proposition 215, the Compassionate Use
Act of 1996. They suggest that the county apparently has taken the position that
Proposition 215 does not apply to children.

The law permits Californians with a physician's approval to use marijuana for medical
purposes.

Use of medical marijuana by children has never been studied, according to Drew
Mattison, co-director of the Center for Cannabis Research at the University of
California, San Diego.

According to the Web site, which was posted before the Juvenile Court hearing
Tuesday, the boy's mother says he has bipolar disorder and also has been diagnosed
with intermittent explosive disorder, conduct disorder, impulsive disorder, 
oppositional-
defiant disorder and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, but none of the drugs
prescribed ever worked.

I have supported doctors and government agencies attempting anything to help my
son, the mother said. The adverse reactions these medications have had on him, not
to mention the unknown of what they are doing to his system, is heart-wrenching to a
mother.


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Re: [CTRL] Conspiracist Jim Marrs Revealed

2001-07-11 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 7/11/01 12:37:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
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Rule by Secrecy, on the other hand, was so rife with
misreadings of the original texts (which as an academic historian I have
first-hand familiarity with), that most of its assertions are based on
falsity, at least mistaken understanding. 

Well if you go by the traditional history books I suppose this would be
correct, his deal is digging deeper and seeking alternative sources for the
hidden history of our planet and in that regard I think Rule By Secrecy is a
good, if rudimentary introduction to conspiracy theory and parahistory.

Bill.


[CTRL] The Secret Service,Big Brother Those Prying Eyes

2001-07-11 Thread William Shannon
http://www.toogoodreports.com/column/general/dean/071001.htm



The U.S. Secret Service, Big Brother And Those Secretive Prying Eyes

By
Lisa S. Dean

Toogood Reports [Tuesday, July 10, 2001; 12:01 a.m. EST]

Every now and again something startles us, forcing us out of the narrow, 
sheltered worlds in which we live and we wonder how that something got there. 
Usually that "something" is not good and it forces us into action to either 
stop it or prevent it from getting worse.

Such is the case in Denver, Colorado where citizens are up in arms over a new 
traffic light surveillance system that not only captures the picture of their 
vehicles on camera — but their faces as well.

The system is part of a new Department of Motor Vehicles initiative designed 
to stop identity theft and drivers license fraud. When the motorist is 
stopped at a traffic light, the camera takes his picture and the face 
recognition software maps out a three-dimensional image of the driver´s face, 
matching that record to the one in the DMV database, to come up with a 
positive identification of the individual driving the car. But the system is 
not just restricted to motorists. Last week, the city of Tampa, Florida 
became the first city in the US to install a similar system on street corners 
in an effort by law enforcement to identify criminals walking along the city 
streets.

But how did this happen, you might ask? How did we get to this point where 
what was once science fiction is now reality? Well, cast your minds back, if 
you will to three years ago when Image Data, a US company, received a grant 
totaling $1.5 million from the US Secret Service to develop a database 
containing every motorist´s photo ID. Image Data had entered in to agreement 
with a number of states to buy their citizens´ driver´s license photos to 
enter into the database. The Secret Service wanted a complete database 
containing the picture ID of every US motorist for the purpose of catching 
criminals.

There was a bit of a scuffle over a government agency selling private 
information to a business but very few saw the potential danger in doing so. 
While Image Data was busy building its database for federal law enforcement, 
states were passing laws requiring the installation of cameras on city 
streets and intersections, allegedly to "monitor traffic flow". Many privacy 
advocates both here in Washington and across the country saw the big picture 
and were alarmed at the potential abuse of our privacy that this system could 
cause. The combination of street cameras monitoring pedestrians and motorists 
and face recognition software that would identify pedestrians and motorists 
was a lethal one.

Needless to say, their concerns were ignored and even dismissed as paranoid 
or anti-government. Well, you can call them "paranoid" or whatever other name 
you like. I call them "correct".

I predict that the next step for Big Brother is for law enforcement to 
combine our personal information that government agencies have been 
collecting — with the face recognition software. That way they will not only 
know where we are, but who we are and everything about our lives, how much 
money we have in our bank accounts, what medication we might be taking or 
what illnesses we´re being treated for, whether we paid our taxes, and so 
forth, just because we happened to walk in front of a camera on the way to 
the store or the doctor´s office.

Total strangers don´t know this information, but the government will because 
it claims to have the right to know it and there´s no one telling them they 
don´t because the citizens who can object aren´t doing so. We Americans need 
to open our eyes and watch where we´re going or like the people in Denver and 
Tampa, we´re going to wake up and wonder how we got to where we are and 
realize that there´s no way to turn back.





[CTRL] Excellent Rothschild Site- Linkage

2001-07-11 Thread William Shannon
http://www.light1998.com/Rothschilds-Book/Rothschilds-Book.htm


[CTRL] Skolnick On Robert Mueller

2001-07-11 Thread William Shannon
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/spoliticalp.html




NEW CHIEF OF SECRET POLITICAL POLICE
by Sherman H. Skolnick 07/08/01

A unit of America's secret political police has a new Chief Terrorist. Robert
Swan Mueller 3rd is the perfect choice to head the Federal Bureau of
Investigation. When you realize what THEY and HE have been into, calling him
the new head of a sinister entity will be an acceptable description.

A few items from the memory hole

[1] In the late 1920s and 30s, the FBI was in the forefront of subverting
Freedom of the Press when it came to the new medium RADIO. The Bureau, under
dictator J. Edgar Hoover, saw to it that no one critical of the government or
harboring dissident views ever was allowed to have a broadcast license. [This
fact somehow does not find its way into books and articles critical of FBI
yet is known as an established fact by old-timers in the broadcast field.
Chicago's WCFL, call letters for Chicago Federation of Labor, always was a
joke. It was never allowed to be pro-labor or to speak out forcefully in
favor of unions and the working person.]

[2] To attempt to beat down the formation of labor unions as an opposition to
corporate greed, the FBI used provocateurs to bomb certain offices and
warehouses and such, using the monopoly press to falsely blame it on labor
violence and union organizers. The FBI had as their adjunct the "Red Squads",
falsely labeling all dissidents as "Reds". [See, for example, "Protectors of
Privilege Red Squads and Police Repression in America", by Frank Donner,
University of California Press, 1990.]

[3] Through movie-making fakers, the FBI was given the false image of
grabbing bank robbers. Such as in the 1930s. Years later, a retired key agent
of the Bureau, with nineteen years of direct experience and knowledge, dared
relate to me the Bureau's sordid past. That FBI boss Hoover, in important
instances, took bribes from certain bank robbers given a pass. The FBI Chief
connived with big-time criminals who owned race tracks and were whiskey
manufacturers. To feed his ego, they allowed him to corruptly win at horse
racing, his favorite pastime. One booze baron, Rosenstiel, actually set up a
crooked foundation named for J. Edgar Hoover. The FBI denied there was a
mafia in America. Simple reason the criminal cartel used blackmail against
Hoover; they had undercover pictures of Hoover's homosexual activities.
[Plenty of details in "Official and Confidential The Secret Life of J.Edgar
Hoover" by Anthony Summers, Putnam, N.Y., 1993.]

[4] The offices of the Bureau in the southern states were well aware of the
Ku Klux Klan and lynchings of blacks, and bombings of Jewish businesses, and
outrages against some Catholics. An FBI undercover operative, Gary Rowe, was
given immunity and not punished for murdering a civil rights activist, Viola
Liuzzo, in the turmoil in Alabama. The FBI, in fact, gave Rowe a reward.
[See, for example, "J.Edgar Hoover The Man and The Secrets", Curt Gentry,
W.W. Norton, 1991.]

The Bureau, through their COINTEL Program sought to snuff out the Anti-Viet
Nam War Movement of the 1960s and early 1970s. The FBI played a key role in
"Operation Garden Plot", that is, to put peaceniks in the cemetery, by
various bloody dirty tricks; plainly, murder. ["The 1960s and COINTELPRO In
Defense of Paranoia", NameBase Newsline, No. 10, July-September, 1995.]

[5] The Bureau played a key role in covering up airplane sabotage. Such as in
the Watergate Plane crash in Chicago, one month after Nixon was re-elected
President, in 1972. Twelve Watergate figures died in the crash, such as
Dorothy Hunt, wife of the Watergate burglar, E. Howard Hunt. Together they
had blackmailed two million dollars out of the Nixon White House. They had
documents of Nixon's role in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
The details of the aircrash, supported by 1300 pages suppressed government
documents, were in a book written by me and stopped in the press cycle by the
Rockefellers, major owners at the time of United Air Lines. [Alas! there are
no copies of my book from 1973 available, "The Secret History of Airplane
Sabotage". I hope to update it someday and post it, at least in part, on my
website.]

[6] Books by assassination researchers document the dirty, bloody role of the
FBI in covering up the high-level plot to assassinate President Kennedy.
[See, for example, a huge heavily-documented book, "Act of Treason", by Mark
North, Carroll  Graf, N.Y., 1991. detailing the role of J. Edgar Hoover.] A
former FBI official, later Mayor of Memphis, Tennessee, covered up the role
of the FBI in the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. [See, "Orders to
Kill", by William F. Pepper, Carroll  Graf, N.Y., 1995.]

As part of this pattern of cover-up and bloodshed, is Robert Swan Mueller
3rd.

===Mueller was a key official in the Criminal Division of the Justice
Department during the administration of George Herbert Walker Bush. Mueller
supervised the supposed investigation 

Re: [CTRL] Utah man claims free expression in sodomy case

2001-07-11 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

-Caveat Lector-

In Utah, a 16-year-old may have consensual sex with a person who is no more
than four
years older.

What a strange law...

Why is it okay for a 16 y.o. to have sex with another 16 y.o. or a 19 y.o.,
but not with someone who is 21 or 41.  If it's wrong to have consensual sex
at 16 it's wrong, or should be, irregardless of the age of the other party..



Sodomy was outlawed in Utah even for married couples until 1977, when the
law was
changed to apply only to unmarried people. It is punishable by up to six
months in jail
and a $1,000 fine.

Another strange law...

Talk about the Sex Police...



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[CTRL] Weird Doings In Hartsville Tennessee

2001-07-11 Thread William Shannon
http://www.1090wjkm.com/



At about 10:45 AM Friday, radio station WJKM and CMR (Country Music Radio),
with studios in Hartsville, Tennessee was knocked off the air by a very
powerful strange energy blast! There was a crystal clear blue sky, no clouds
or rain. It was not lightning!

1.All the radio station's lines were knocked out.

2. Several power transformers were blown several blocks away from the studios
(smoke seen billowing out of one)

3. All phone lines at the newspaper (The Hartsville Vidette), the local farm
co-op and all other phones in this small radius were knocked out!

4. Radio station transmitter lost all MOSFETS and the output - tuning network.

5. All computers at WJKM lost motherboards, network cards etc.

6. ISDN was knocked out.

7. Most all the equipment Zephyr codec and EAS all knocked out.

THERE WAS NOT A CLOUD IN THE SKY! This was not lightning!

In the back of the radio station were DEAD FRIED BIRDS! Their wings, tails
and feet severely burned.Station secretary Jennifer and sales manager Steve
found a small bird still alive hopping around with its wings and tail
feathers burned off. Many of the birds were still alive but badly burned.

These are smaller birds. The wingspan is not large enough for them to get
fried from getting across a powerline to ground. This was not just one bird.

Steve (sales manager) told me he heard a loud electrical overload sound then
the power went out. He told me he has never heard anything like this ever in
his life. There was no blown transformer near the radio station. The closest
burned transformer was at least three city blocks from the building.

The editor of the Vidette said she was sitting with her back to the window.
She heard a loud roaring sound like an overload and something came through
the window and a flash of light went through the entire building. The Vidette
is next door to the radio station.

The Power Company, Tri County Electric and Bell South seem to be at a loss to
explain the situation.

This is not the first time WJKM has had strange power surge problems. It has
been difficult to keep computers up and running at the Hartsville studios and
transmitter site.

We have called the local power company and complained to no avail. They seem
to be as puzzled by the problem as we are. They have placed monitoring
equipment on the lines and have seen nothing unusual.

Yet in this outage the editor of the Vidette told me she keeps all the
computers in the building unplugged. The newspaper publishes once a week so
they only plug the computers into power once a week. Friday the Editors
calculator was plugged into the wall outlet and it was destroyed by the
surge.

These surges are not just coming into the power lines. They are also entering
the radio station through phone lines and the antenna system. This is evident
in blown telephone equipment. Sometimes the equipment is not destroyed but
the program settings are scrambled or wiped out.


We have been at a loss to make a determination as to the cause of these
surges.The only clue as to what the cause may be has been suggested by our
listeners.

Many of the callers to the radio station seem to think that there is some
sort of activity at the old Hartsville nuclear power plant site. My first
trip to the site left me a bit cold as the place looks like an abandoned
ghost town. With heaps of things lying around, it looks like a good set for a
futuristic movie.

The nuclear power plant is a site that cost the general public millions of
dollars that was supposedly never finished. The construction of the plant
came to an abrupt halt some years back leaving the community devastated. TVA
(Federal Government) will tell you it is being used as a storage area only.
Yet I have calls at the radio station from listeners who claim to hear
strange humming sounds coming from the location. Listeners have seen strange
objects overhead. Listeners have claimed to see triangular shaped craft
overhead. Silent black helicopters at all hours of the night. Huge military
C-130's heading in as if to land or leaving the area nose up as if they have
just taken off.

There are no visible places for a C-130 to land or take off. We have searched
the area as well as we could.

Listeners from the area have called talking about a strange humming sound.
Comments like "you can feel it" "It makes the hair stand up on your neck" are
common. We also hear that you can't locate the source of the humming it seems
to be coming from everywhere. This has been mentioned only by people who live
near the nuclear power plant site. . A rural elderly listener called my
morning show extremely upset. He told us he had lost several beagle puppies
in the area. A friend of his told him that he thought that he had seen the
pups in the area near the cooling tower. He reported to us in a phone call
that he had driven his truck to the area. He thought he was hearing the
beagles out in the wooded area so he climbed over the fence and started
calling 

[CTRL] Pentagon Sex Slaves?

2001-07-11 Thread William Shannon
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0128/ridgeway.shtml#Mechanic



Mechanic Claims He Was Fired for Alerting Authorities

Pentagon Sex Slaves?

Ben Johnston, a Texas aircraft mechanic working in Bosnia for a Pentagon
contractor, is charging in Texas federal district court that he was fired
because he ratted out fellow workers who were swapping underage girls as
maids and sex slaves, and dealing in illegal firearms as well. The employer,
DynCorp, denies the charges, which are being made under RICO, federal
racketeering laws.

Johnston claims that when he alerted his DynCorp supervisor, the manager told
him "to mind his own business." He says his three-year contract was abruptly
cancelled and he was fired without notice after reporting these activities to
the Army Criminal Investigation Command in March 2000.

The suit alleges that DynCorp employees purchased the passports of women and
girls from Serbian Mafia members, who brought them into Bosnia from other
Eastern European countries.





[CTRL] Ethnic Cleansing Tourism

2001-07-11 Thread William Shannon
http://www.mediamonitors.net/index.html



Ethnic Cleansing and Tourism  

by Jeff Halper 


Barely a month after the spiritual leader of Shas called for exterminating   
 Arabs, Israel's tourism minister proposed getting rid of 'illegal'   
 Palestinians. Speaking on Israeli Army Radio, Rehavam Zeevi said that  ``We 
 should get rid of the ones who are not Israeli citizens the same way you get 
 rid of lice. We have to stop this cancer from spreading within us.'' Zeevi 
is  the leader of the far-right National Union party that advocates the 
expulsion of Arabs living under Israeli rule. This  extremist bigot, a vocal 
advocate of ethnic cleansing, sits in the Knesset. He even has a full 
ministerial portfolio in the 'unity' government led by Ariel Sharon, a 
notorious war criminal. Rehavam Zeevi is the guy responsible for bringing in 
the tourist dollars. So the same guy responsible for promoting foreign 
visitors is taking an active role in advocating the expulsion of the native 
people. What is the Israeli travel slogan? "Visit Israel and help us exile 
the native Palestinians"?   

One need only recall the measures taken by Europe and America to isolate 
Haider of Austria for remarks that were considered anti-Semitic.  The 
xenophobic Haider advocated reducing the number of immigrants coming into 
Austria in language that was quite mild compared to the regular outbursts of 
hate speech coming out of the Knesset.  All this talk of 'expulsion' and 
'transfer' should not be considered idle conversation.  The destruction of 
Palestinian homes in Jerusalem and Gaza is just the most recent example of 
intensifying the violence of the occupation.  Sharon and Zeevi and others are 
openly declaring their intent  to deal with the demographic Palestinian 
'problem'  in a manner similar to what happened in 1948.  The vast majority 
of  Israelis, across a wide political spectrum, from zealous settlers to the 
self-appointed 'left',  insist that any final solution must include a limit 
the number of native Palestinians allowed to live within the borders of the 
'Jewish' state.  Indeed, Israelis abandoned the Oslo agreement when they 
realized that the Palestinians were not going to just forget about their 
right of return.

Talk of mass expulsion has always been considered polite conversation in 
Israel.  Most Israelis are quite comfortable with a military regime that 
restricts the Palestinians to a few tiny pockets of their ancestral homeland. 
From the Jordan River to the Mediterranean sea,  four million Palestinians 
are densely packed into tiny urban islands completely under Israeli siege or 
military occupation.  As far as the Israeli public is concerned, they are out 
of sight and out of mind.

History was not supposed to be this difficult for the Zionists.  In their 
dogma, the Palestinians should never have been hanging around the Holy Land 
in the first place.  They had no 'historical ties' to the land. Besides, if 
they were not so stubborn they could have just disappeared and melted into 
the surrounding Arab world.  It was an act of anti-Semitism for a Palestinian 
to simply aspire to live in the land of his birth, since this kind of 
defiance pre-empted the 'ingathering of the ancient Hebrew people'  who had a 
land deed registered in the Torah.

When a Palestinian encounters another Palestinian for the first time, the 
first thing they ask is for your address.  They want to know from which 
'house'  you came.   Such is their intimacy with their homeland.  Even as 
exiles, they are a provincial people who ascribe certain traits to those who 
grew up in a Haifa house as opposed to those stubborn folks from El-Khalil or 
the urbane Jeruslamite.   The Ramallah Palestinians have their own clubs, 
even in their north American exile. To the Israelis, Palestinians are bundles 
of flesh that can be 'transferred' here or exiled there.  They see the 
Palestinians as people without memories who should just 'move on' and find 
some other country;  become an Egyptian or a Syrian or a Greek.

It is a rare Israeli who acknowledges the great harm inflicted on this 
innocent nation.  Demonizing the Palestinians is a Zionist imperative. The 
arrogant Israeli contempt for the natives was an essential component of 
 'making a Sabra'.  And  of making the Shatilas and the Qibyas. If the 
majority of Israelis ever abandon their Euro-centric racist contempt for the 
ancient natives of Palestine, they would finally become aware that the 
Zionist narrative is a historical fraud.  The whole Zionist creed  is based 
on historic fiction combined with a bizarre notion of exceptionalism. Zionism 
is the last surviving 19th century ideology;  a  wicked bit of social 
experimentation that has produced a twenty-first century legacy of a nuclear 
theocracy led by a war criminal.  They have created a 'Jewish' state that is 
now experiencing a collective dementia that allows them to ignore half the 
people  living under Israeli rule.  

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Kansan, did you see the new Carl's Jr. commercial?

2001-07-11 Thread Tenorlove

-Caveat Lector-

So that means that Olympic Sprinter Carl Lewis is a super CLuM brother!
WOW!

Tenorlove
who would love to hear Kansan describe the CLuM connections of the
Three Tenors..


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 Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 12:05 PM
 Subject: Kansan, did you see the new Carl's Jr. commercial?


Anonymous Onion wrote:
 
  Subject: Kansan, did you see the new Carl's Jr. commercial?
  From: Anonymous Onion@my-deja.com
  Date: 7/11/01 1:10 AM Central Standard Time
  Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  There's a pretty lady eating a burger in a university library.
  For a brief moment, the camera shows the back of a man's athletic
  jersey.  The number?  555.
  
  What do you think that means, Kansan?
  
  Gotta go, the CLuMs are after me...again.
  
  - (Anonymous)
  
 
First of all, Carl, or Karl, is a Germanic name meaning
 Freeman,
  i.e., a freed slave.  This is related to Free Masons and to the
 Phrygian
  cap worn by the French revolutionaries.  (In Roman antiquity freed
 slaves
 used
  to wear a Phrygian cap.)
 
If Carl is a Freeman, i.e., a Freemason, then Carl, Jr.,
 his
 son, is
  a Lewis, according to Masonic rules.  (A Lewis, the son of a
 Freemason, is
  entitled to special treatment when applying for Masonic
 membership.)
 
The name Lewis, of course, is another common form of
 Levi, or
 Levy.
 
The number 555, the height of the Washington Monument in
 feet,
 encrypts
  the formula:
 
555:  5 * 55 = 275, the number of days from March 25, the
 Annunciation of
  the Virgin Mary by the Archangel Gabriel (the Conception of Jesus
 Christ)
 to
  December 25 (the Birth of Jesus Christ).
 
This period of 275 days is broken down in the Church calendar
 as
 follows:
 
From March 25 to July 13:  110 days, and a feast day of the
 Archangel
  Gabriel.
 
From July 13 to September 6:  55 days, and a feast day of
 Archangel
  Michael.
 
From September 6 to October 31:  55 days, and the feast of
 All
 Hallows
  Eve, Halloween.
 
From October 31 to December 25, from Halloween to Christmas
 Day, 55
 days:
 
110 + 55 + 55 + 55 = 275
 
CLuMs take these symbols of the Birth of Jesus Christ and
 apply them
 to
  their Messiah, the Antichrist.
 

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Re: [CTRL] FC: Are underskirt cams video voyeurism or free speech? (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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Up-skirt video voyeurism is apparently a thriving internet business, with
about a hundred web sites devoted to up-skirt and other candid body shots
of unsuspecting female victims in public places. Professionals employed by
these sites and amateur contributors are part of a cottage industry of
stalking and secretly filming victims and disseminating the images on the
internet.

Gee...I wonder how many of these sites there would be if women started
turning the tables and doing the same thing to males...

Let's start seeing some voyeuristic videos of men's privates taken when they
thought they were in private...



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[CTRL] Protocols are Illiminati [was jim marrs]

2001-07-11 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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  [The protocols of zion I have found to contain an esoteric general
systems
  theory   taught in illuminati schools

 oh simply *do* tell what you found in the protocols of zion, andrew.
still
 on the icke then? two weeks believing the same paradigm. well done, it
is
 the most consistent you have been so far.

I like Icke - I'm a big fan - but he doesn't have the same picture as me.
[before I go into this please bear in mind that when I say 'jewish'
I'm NOT referring to ANY definition currently published - AND
I give no credence whatsoever to holocaust denial or other ideological
tools of bloodshed]
I believe that the definition of Aryan AND Jew CO-INCIDE and are in fact
referring to a particular Reptoid House - the House of Esau/Joseph
and that those Reptoids have had it in for the Human race Big Time since
the war in Eden - where the hated non-telepathic humans 'defiled' their DNA
with
imperfections.

I researched General Systems Theory over 10 years and discovered that
I had re-invented Teslas Theory of Environmental Energy.
some stuff was peer reviewed as part of a government research programme
into knowledge representation and data warehousing.

However - the basic 'knowledge' that made all this possible is the simplest
of all stuff - people build computer chips out of the arithmetic of 3'ness,
and there are only 8 combinations of three and this leads to wave theory
and harmonics [it also looks like the trigrams in the I CHING but the
computer industry knows it as Boolean Arithmetic and they use it to
design silicon chip circuits]
details of my theory of threeness www.zeroparadoxuniversity.com
It wasn't just the 3 ness - a natural/universal and logical aspect of three
dimensions of space but a certain way of seeing the world that was part
of this recipe for relativity.
there was a way of seeing an object - in three parts - example CAR/AUTO
1. its context and ingredients   eg. highways, petrol industry, capital,
social
2. its internal structure and mechanics eg. the components of the car
3. its qualitative aspectseg. whether a mercedes or whether a
Lada

for detailed examples see my paper on mind-machine interphase at the above
URL

This was a relativity all about the way things worked - a relativity of
function -

gee I thought I was pretty smart - that is until one night at the Edinburgh
theosophical
centre, the archivist handed me a bundle of yellow papers - and in faded ink
at the top
it said - [dated 1921] - 'in the event of my death - please destroy'
I looked through this stuff and it was a Secret School Illuminati Degree
with the same
theory of threeness that I thought I had invented - written out in Hindu
jargon.
Reference to this knowledge can be found in volume 1 of the secret doctrine
by
blavatsky where she refers to LOGOS-OUTPOURING-VEHICLES but no examples
are given.

This functional relativity does not depend on labels ie. we have this
object -
and we can call it what we want in any language - and there are endless
names
we can call it - but what it does and how it operates is one relative truth.
eg. an Auto can be called millions of designer names - but at the end of the
day
it is TRANSPORT
eg. there are billions of lifeforms, billions of labels - but they all
survive by
PROCESSING ENERGY
eg. there are millions of house types/names shack, skyscraper -
but they are all SHELTER etc

This way of seeing how things function is directly related to this system of
relativity - this system ONLY works by using this way of seeing things.

This system of relativity is evident in the Protocols of .. Zion where it
refers to the body politic - where it says that there are hundreds? of
government
offices and that they all behave variously but they must be viewed as
simply being a body - with organs, arms, legs etc
This is the relativity of function described in the Illuminati degree.

I therefore propose that the protocols are an Illuminati [and reptoid] work

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2001-07-11 Thread Tenorlove

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I'm doubly surprised this wasn't splattered all over the media --
apparently it is more important to censor McVeigh sympathizers than it
is to give the gun grabbers another reason to gloat.

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Re: [CTRL] Conspiracist Jim Marrs missing link

2001-07-11 Thread Nessie

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 assume telepathy - assume evil telepaths - assume non-human evil
telepaths


You mean a priori? Why?

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Re: [CTRL] The hidden treasures of King Arthur [numerological-goldenratio-codes]

2001-07-11 Thread Mark McHugh

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Bill Howard wrote:

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 Where do you find this, this stuff!

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,7-2001232997,00.html

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Re: [CTRL] FOXNews: Libel Judgment Against Anti-Clinton Filmmaker Rejected by Appeals Court

2001-07-11 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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From: Aleisha Saba
like this sick homosexual who was murdered in our town, oh he
lavished these little kids with gifts and fed them so well - like the
witch in Hansel and Gretal

The witch in Hansel and Gretel was gay?


Think sodomy will ever be accepted in this cuontry

Most heterosexual couples practice some form of sodomy, so it is obviously
already accepted here...


PROTECT THE CHILDRENand remember the words of Paula Poundstone
that Gay Pride is supporting now - Poundstone said she always checked
out the sodomy laws before he went into any state and in particular was
ready to go to Georgia and fight for Sodomy Rights and Gay Pride?

I've asked for your DOCUMENTATION of this allegation many times...I and
others are still waiting for your PROOF that Poundstone ever said this...



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Re: [CTRL] Conspiracist Jim Marrs missing link

2001-07-11 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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 assume telepathy - assume evil telepaths - assume non-human evil
telepaths


You mean a priori? Why?

because I say so - its a theory - In sentential calculus the language [L] of
Logic we can make assumptions
All good or bad theories start with certain assumptions -
Karl Popper 'Conjectures and Refutations' will show you that the beginning
of all good and bad models start with assumptions -
its called Conjecture or modelling.

I have ethnological evidence to support it. I have a posteriori experience
that I feel fits. and also I do not feel like presenting it formally at this
time -

I also believe most strongly that the classical definition of 'a priori'
with classical reference to its place in mathematics, logic etc is false -
and should be redesignated synthetic a priori,
the only real a priori system being the logically complete set of essences
that i rediscovered 1991 and have a formal completeness proof for - this
same set of essences and the truth about the free energy it enables has been
known to the illuminti for tens of thousands of years.

I only use academic babble or babel because you wish to open up a debate
with me about the status of knowledge -
ie. your academic question was referring to the epistemology

feel free to discontinue because I don't intend writing time consuming
formal and pragmatic scripts [unless I get paid :)]

best wishes,

andrew
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Re: [CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-11 Thread tenebroust

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I believe you.  My point in what I posted was to say that such camps may in fact exist 
BUT that anything people see is not going to be such camps in actuality.  The camps if 
they exist would not be observable and would not be in any area where they could be 
scrutinized.  Such a thing would have to be hidden very well, as such reports of same 
are probably all bogus.



On Wed, 11 July 2001, Bill Howard wrote:


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   Though I don't doubt they exist somewhere in some capacity. 

 Several years ago I went out checked on three camps in my area.  They didn't
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[CTRL] Fwd: Info on the Sheeple getting fleeced sheared

2001-07-11 Thread Kris Millegan





UPDATE ON THE SPRINGMEIERS, THEY JOIN THE GROWING NUMBER OF LOOTED AMERICANS
by Fritz Springmeier

I promised people I would provide updates on how Patty and I are doing after
the military assault on our property by the FBI, ATF, Sheriff, and SWAT team
on March 1, 2001.
What Patty and I are experiencing is really a sad story that is being
repeated all across the United States. The DEA and other “law enforcement”
agencies are simply out on the take looting from hapless victims. We are no
longer safe to travel, or even safe in our own homes because the
uncontrollable power that our government/police have delegated to themselves.
It has been four and half months now, and we have never been charged with
anything, and yet our possessions and money and projects that were looted from
us are in government hands. The government seized personal property that in no
way could have anything to do with a search warrant for marijuana. How does my
reporter’s credentials have anything to do with marijuana?  How do the books I
was working on have anything to do with illegal drugs?  And yet the government
has stonewalled our attorney’s attempts to get our personal possessions back.
In looting our property and then stonewalling our efforts to get our personal
property back, they have clearly shown that their raid was not about drugs,
but was for other reasons, which should be obvious to the casual observer.
They (or someone in the raid) also pocketed money that was not recorded on the
sheets they left us. Granted, it wasn’t much money, but it is just the idea
that someone can come into the sanctity of your home and legally loot it for
their own gain.
This kind of thing is happening all over America. Even ex-policemen are
becoming victims of this looting. (Maybe things have a way of coming around
eventually.  It would be nice if some of these policemen could wake up and
realize that they and their families are not going to enjoy living in an out
of control police state any more than you and I.  Should anyone want, I will
provide them with the titles of books they can read, with the personal stories
of Nazis in Germany who came to regret the police state they themselves had
created.)
Beware of having cash where it can be found. A woman named Ethel Hylton had
cash from an insurance settlement and from her life savings ($39,110), when
she went she went through Houston TX’s Hobby Airport. Even though she could
document where her money came from, and they could find no drugs on her, and
never charged her with anything, the police still looted her money. This is
one reason they came out with the new money with the strips, so they can
electronically detect your cash and then loot it. Once her money was gone, she
had nothing with which to fight back.  That has been part of our situation.
The raid cost us lots of time and money, and since we will have to continue
legally trying to get our possessions returned it will continue to drain us.
Under civil asset forfeiture, a person’s property is charged with a crime.  
Examples of this are “United States vs. one 1998 Mercedes Benz” and
“California vs. 1711 Main St….” Once the property is charged with a crime, the
police seize it and divide the loot up with the courts. The police in some
cases personally get 25%. The courts take their percentage kickback, and the
police/DEA/etc. get their percentage to keep financing the looting of more
sheeple. We are merely sheep to be shorn and bullied around.
One case with which I can identify with took place in Montgomery, AL.  Gussie
Mae Gantt had been calling the police complaining about drug-dealers using her
neighborhood. To protect her property she had posted no-trespassing signs. She
had done all she could to stop these activities. The police response was to
send in an informant who bought drugs on her property (which was videotaped),
and then to seize her home. Easy money for these crooks with badges. I’ve
noticed that the police have never been interested when I report my car being
stolen, assaults on my physical body, or other crimes against my person.  They
only seem interested as far as I can detect in bullying people, and figuring
out how to loot. (If this seems harsh, unfortunately it’s the only picture
I’ve seen of police now days.) If they had any real interest in fighting
drugs, they would be trying to stop the government from handing out cocaine
(oops—they renamed it Ritalin) to half of our school children.  
The establishment newspapers have said that America and Russia are growing
closer together—well, yes, both are run by criminals; they both have
evilarcies in power, and the common people are increasingly aware of this.
With over $1 billion in property being seized each year WITHOUT trial from
innocent Americans, its getting harder to hide the looting, even though the
looting is under reported by the establishment media, who repeatedly try to
build up the image of the police. That $1 billion plus 

[CTRL] Fwd: Thai/Burma eugenic Phoenix missionaries Re: big wigs

2001-07-11 Thread Kris Millegan





You have to check out this website.
http://www.geocities.com/edavis.geo/Udorn.html
The following text doesn't do it service.  You need the graphics and music
to go with it.

Udorn was Asian Headquarters for Air America
Air America provided essential resources for the Secret War in Laos and
elsewhere.
The public and covert activities of Air America and 'associates' contributed
greatly to challenging and reversing the Domino effects of agressive global
Communism by lessening national security threats of the Cold War, that
otherwise were esculating into World War Three.
Air America's roles supportive of covert and overt situations related to
hostilities in Asia and elsewhere worldwide provided buffers and solutions
to problems too sensative for our political leaders in Washington to openly
tend to, ...problems and situations that otherwise could have resulted with
gravely higher losses of lives and assured detrimental effects upon our
uniformed comrads-in-arms, and subsciquently adversly our present society,
freedoms and way of life in America.
CAT and Air America's 'quiet', often routinely heroic expressions, in later
years more openly assisted our nations military, and other contributing
eliments, who forever changed the course of world history in our nations
favor, . while doing so with secrets kept for over 30 years by those who
served our nation with such profound accomplishments, yet never to be read
about in our nations school History books,  and to the extent of such
secrecy that the details of their roles remain still unknown to our
countrymen, even unknown to our very own military, and not even our highest
elected officials of the same era who were not privileged to such
completeness of sensative details.
During the 1970's, details about the 'secret wars' was leaked, by a News
Reporter, to elected officials in Washington. Then Air America became the
'accessable' sacrifical 'scape goat' for various UNaccessable cliant
organizations / agencies.


Before the birth of Air America
In 1937 the Japanese began bombing Chinese cities and infrastructure
targets, to include the American Navy U.S.S. Panay, a gunboat the Japanese
had also destroyed during a bombing raid.
The hostilities continued, and via an agreement with Chinese President
Chiang Kai-shek, American 'volunteers' responded as Pilots to fly old
Chinese aircraft to wage a Secret Air War against the Japanese.


Then in 1938 a retired U.S. Army Air Corps Captain, Claire Lee Chennault,
was sent to Kunming, China as the American Air Advisir. Soon afterwards he
was to hire American technicians to train Chinese Ground Crew Airmen and to
train better Chinese Pilots.


During 1939 Washington did NOT want to appear they were supporting China in
the war with Japan, so American military supplies could not be shipped
directly to China. Instead, limited amounts of much needed military supplies
continued to reach China from the Brittish in Burma and from the French in
Viet-Nam, as well as from American military supplies sent to the French. But
better Pilots and Planes were urgently needed for China.


In 1940 Chennault was instrumental in securing 100 American made Curtus
P-40C Fighter aircraft, that had been earmarked for the Brittish, hence
laundering their origin as non-American aid.
100 More Pilots and 200 more Ground Crewmen were needed.
The operation had to keep a safe 'identification distance' from our
military, as to not create a response from the international community, so
an organization named Intercontinent fronted the recruitment end of things
for Central Aircraft Manufacturing Company (CAMCO) who became the actual
employer contracting stateside recruited Pilots and Ground Crews for jobs in
China, where Chennault headed the American Volunteer Group (AVG) Squadrons
and men who would become known as the Flying Tiger's
Although American Pilots were recruited (some from the military, who retired
to get the high paying jobs) they arrived as volunteers in China and NOT
in any capisity attached to the U.S. military in any 'official' American
support in China's war with Japan.


In 1941 U.S. President Roosevelt approved China to immeadiatly recieve
shipments of five hundred American made aircraft, to include Bombers capable
of reaching Japan with bombing missions launched from China, and many were
in route.
Also the Brittish were shipping two squadrons of Fighter aircraft to
Chennault's American Volunteer Group (AVG).
7 December 1941 many of those aircraft were in route or arrived, after being
refueled in Hawaii.. when the Japanese ships and aircraft attacked U.S.
military bases Pearl Harbour in Hawaii, and those bases and towns of the
Asian based French, Dutch East Indies and Brittish who had been providing
military aid to the Chinese, and those who survived capture were made
prisoners.
The term Flying Tiger's resulted from a Time Magazine article written in
late December 1941, describing Chennault's agressive combat AVG Pilots
behaving 

[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Gold rises on Bank of England auction results

2001-07-11 Thread Kris Millegan





By Myra P. Saefong
www.CBS.MarketWatch.com
July 11, 2001

NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- Shares of most metals companies
and gold futures prices shined Wednesday, reflecting
strong demand for the precious metal that surfaced
at the Bank of England's gold auction.

Earlier Wednesday, the Bank of England held its
second auction in a series of six that began in May.
It sold 643,600 ounces, or about 20 metric tons of
gold, at a price of $267.25. Bidders applied for
2.6 million ounces -- an over-subscription rate of
4.1 times.

This was taken well by the market, as most
expectations were for a rate of under 3, said David
Meger, Alaron.com's senior metals analyst. The
auction price underscored good demand and willing
buyers, he added.

Bidders at the last auction, held on May 15, applied
for 2.4 million ounces of gold at a price $268 an
ounce, with the over-subscription rate at 3.7 times.

Following the auction results, the CBOE Gold Index
climbed by 3.4 percent to stand at 40.66, while the
Philadelphia Gold and Silver Index rose 3.8 percent
to 54.74.

Among individual stocks, shares of Anglogold tacked
on 60 cents to trade at $18.85, Agnico-Eagle Mines
gained 29 cents to $9.18, and Barrick Gold added 71
cents to $15.36.

On the futures market, gold for August delivery traded
at $268.50 an ounce, up $1.80 on the session.

As of late Tuesday, inventories of gold on the
Commodities Exchange were up 16,646 to 903,750
ounces.

September silver gained 0.2 cent to $4.265 an ounce.
Comex inventories of the precious metal were flat at
99,267,073.

In other metals action, September palladium climbed
by 50 cents to $564.50 an ounce. October platinum
added $8.70 to $560 an ounce.


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[CTRL] AIDS threat stalks Ukrainian youth

2001-07-11 Thread Carl Amedio
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AIDS threat stalks Ukrainian youth

By Tara FitzGerald

 
KIEV, July 12 (Reuters) - Don't use drugs, use condoms, lead a normal
lifestyle. A simple motto aimed by AIDS campaigners at the youth of Ukraine
but the message is failing to get through.

Long the scourge of African countries, the United Nations estimates that
ex-Soviet Ukraine has the fastest growing rate of HIV infection in Europe --
and has said that 1.5 million of its 49 million people could be affected by
the disease by 2010.

Since Ukraine's first HIV case was reported in 1987, the United Nations says
"the virus has risen to near epidemic proportions mainly within the injecting
drug-using community."

And aid workers believe it is not only the runaway rate at which the virus is
spreading but the fact that it is overwhelmingly attacking young people that
is of mounting concern.

"Approximately 90 percent of infection (in Ukraine) occurs in the 15-24 age
group," said Andrej Cima, Intercountry Programme Advisor for the United
Nations Joint Programme on HIV/AIDS, adding that it was no longer confined to
drug users.

"In Ukraine the epidemic is being driven by injecting drug users, and our
experience is that when it gets into the drug-using community it spreads very
fast," Cima said.

"We are now seeing an increase in non-drug users...so we are seeing a
spillover into the general community."

He said poppies growing in western Ukraine made access to drugs relatively
cheap and easy, and the fact that surveys show a large percentage of drug
users have casual sexual partners and practise unprotected sex was
compounding the problem.

The explosion in sex workers in the post-Communist era was also exposing more
and more people to HIV/AIDS.

TIP OF THE ICEBERG

Cima said that according to sero-monitoring data, as of May 1, 2001 there
were 67,844 reported cases of HIV in Ukraine and just 38,632 officially
reported cases -- 28,265 of those were injecting drug users.

The officially reported cases are those people who come back for treatment
after testing positive in sero-monitoring.

And these are just the people who have come forward for testing. Experts
believe the real number of Ukrainians affected could be as much as 10 times
higher.

"Some people want to put it out of their minds as they know they can live for
six to seven years without treatment," Cima said, explaining the discrepancy
in the figures.

Between January and April this year 2,032 new cases of HIV were reported.

The human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), which destroys the immune system and
leaves victims vulnerable to an array of opportunistic infections and
aggressive cancers, is the fourth leading cause of death globally. HIV causes
AIDS.

June 5 this year marked the 20th anniversary of the first public disclosure
of cases of the mysterious disease that became known as acquired immune
deficiency syndrome -- AIDS.

Walid Harfouch, the U.N. goodwill ambassador to Ukraine, says the fact that
there is not enough information available about HIV/AIDS and it is still a
taboo topic in Ukraine, are major contributing factors to its spread.

BREAKING TABOOS

"One of the biggest problems is that people don't want to report (possible
HIV) because they think they might be rejected by society, lose their jobs
and so on," Harfouch said.

"I know of cases where people were fired from their jobs after they found out
they were HIV positive and they now believe it was a big mistake to ever have
reported it."

His campaign focuses on spreading awareness among young people through pop
concerts, radio and television advertising, as well as supplying free condoms
at special events.

"Because I know that often young people, if they have the choice, will be
more likely to spend their two hryvnias (40 cents) on a beer rather than a
condom," Harfouch said.

"This is one of the direct ways in which we can prevent the spread of AIDS
among young people."

Cima also noted a lack of safe sex education in schools which he said the
government and aid groups were tackling.

But campaigners said they were cheered by the fact that Ukraine was one of
the four countries which had called for a special U.N. AIDS summit, which was
held in New York last month.

"This shows the government has taken a big step towards acknowledging the
existence of the problem," Harfouch said.

COSTLY TREATMENT

Another issue that Ukrainians have to face is the prohibitive cost of
treatment and its lack of availability for those who do come forward after
testing HIV positive.

The Institute of Epidemiology and Infectious Diseases of the Academy of
Medical Science of Ukraine -- the country's first dedicated HIV/AIDS clinic
-- is based in the capital Kiev and has around 20 residential places, as well
seeing a further 10-15 out-patients each day.

Housed in a beautiful old, if slightly shabby, building near the Pechersk
Lavra monastery, the clinic is 

[CTRL] Boylan: UFO Public Disclosure Comes to San Francisco

2001-07-11 Thread Steve

-Caveat Lector-

--- Forwarded message follows ---
Date sent:  Wed, 11 Jul 2001 20:55:58 -0400
From:   David Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:IUFO: Boylan: UFO Public Disclosure Comes to San Francisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


If you have an evening to spend, click on over to

http://www.connectlive.com/events/disclosureproject/disclosureproject-050901-28k.ram

for the first hour and half of the Disclosure Press Conference.

Then grab a cold one and settle down at:

http://www.connectlive.com/events/disclosureproject/disclosureproject-050901-28k-2.ram

for the second hour and a half. Keep a pencil and paper handy,
you may want to make a lot of notes. My first reaction- I have
heard of most of the cases before. There seemed to be no cases
mentioned I'd call current. Just that these guys and gals are
coming forward to testify they happened is a breakthrough. What's
needed to clinch their efforts- if the  time is right- is for one
of the off-worlders to make an appearance.

Some of my sceptic friends who thought the whole UFO scene was
bunk, sat through the entire conference. They are now asking if
they can see some of my UFO files and investigations. Never can
tell what kind of wedge it takes to crack minds open.

I wish the Disclosure Project success in their efforts.

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Re: [CTRL] Russia/Chinese Navy Prepares to Invade Taiwan

2001-07-11 Thread Michael Pugliese

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Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...In fact, we are the nation that engages in dozens of
agressive wars outside North America...
We have 50 percent of the world's wealth, but only 6.3 percent of its
population. . . In this situation we cannot fail to be the object of envy
and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of
relationships which will allow us to maintain this position of disparity. We
should cease to talk about the raising of the living standards, human
rights, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to
have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by
idealistic slogans, the better.
George Kennan, Director of Policy Planning of the U.S. Dept. of State, 1948
http://www.neravt.com/left/invade.htm
Let the Bloody Truth Be Told: A Chronology of U.S. Imperialism
One Hundred Years of Intervention
by Zoltan Grossman

   The following is a partial list of U.S. military interventions from 1890
to 1999. This guide does not include:

mobilizations of the National Guard
offshore shows of naval strength
reinforcements of embassy personnel
the use of non-Defense Department personnel (such as the Drug Enforcement
Administration)
military exercises
non-combat mobilizations (such as replacing postal strikers)
the permanent stationing of armed forces
covert actions where the U.S. did not play a command and control role
the use of small hostage rescue units
most uses of proxy troops
U.S. piloting of foreign warplanes
foreign disaster assistance
military training and advisory programs not involving direct combat
civic action programs
and many other military activities.
Among sources used, beside news reports, are the Congressional Record
(23 June 1969), 180 Landings by the U.S. Marine Corp History Division, Ege 
Makhijani in Counterspy (July-Aug, 1982), Instances of Use of United States
Forces Abroad, 1798-1993 by Ellen C. Collier of the Library of Congress
Congressional Research Service, and Ellsberg in Protest  Survive .
SOUTH DAKOTA  1890 (-?)  Troops  300 Lakota Indians massacred at Wounded
Knee.
ARGENTINA  1890  Troops  Buenos Aires interests protected.
CHILE  1891  Troops  Marines clash with nationalist rebels.
HAITI  1891  Troops  Black revolt on Navassa defeated.
IDAHO  1892  Troops  Army suppresses silver miners' strike.
HAWAII  1893 (-?)  Naval, troops  Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.
CHICAGO  1894  Troops  Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.
NICARAGUA  1894  Troops  Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
CHINA  1894-95  Naval, troops  Marines land in Sino-Japanese War
KOREA  1894-96  Troops  Marines kept in Seoul during war.
PANAMA  1895  Troops, naval  Marines land in Colombian province.
NICARAGUA  1896  Troops  Marines land in port of Corinto.
CHINA  1898-1900  Troops  Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.
PHILIPPINES  1898-1910 (-?)  Naval, troops  Seized from Spain, killed
600,000 Filipinos
CUBA  1898-1902 (-?)  Naval, troops  Seized from Spain, still hold Navy
base.
PUERTO RICO  1898 (-?)  Naval, troops  Seized from Spain, occupation
continues.
GUAM  1898 (-?)  Naval, troops  Seized from Spain, still use as base.
MINNESOTA  1898 (-?)  Troops  Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake.
NICARAGUA  1898  Troops  Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.
SAMOA  1899 (-?)  Troops  Battle over succession to throne.
NICARAGUA  1899  Troops  Marines land at port of Bluefields.
IDAHO  1899-1901  Troops  Army occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region.
OKLAHOMA  1901  Troops  Army battles Creek Indian revolt.
PANAMA  1901-14  Naval, troops  Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal
Zone 1914.
HONDURAS  1903  Troops  Marines intervene in revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC  1903-04  Troops  U.S. interests protected in Revolution.
KOREA  1904-05  Troops  Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.
CUBA  1906-09  Troops  Marines land in democratic election.
NICARAGUA  1907  Troops  Dollar Diplomacy protectorate set up.
HONDURAS  1907  Troops  Marines land during war with Nicaragua
PANAMA  1908  Troops  Marines intervene in election contest.
NICARAGUA  1910  Troops  Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.
HONDURAS  1911  Troops  U.S. interests protected in civil war.
CHINA  1911-41  Naval, troops  Continuous occupation with flare-ups.
CUBA  1912  Troops  U.S. interests protected in civil war.
PANAMA  1912  Troops  Marines land during heated election.
HONDURAS  1912  Troops  Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
NICARAGUA  1912-33  Troops, bombing  10-year occupation, fought guerillas
MEXICO  1913  Naval  Americans evacuated during revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC  1914  Naval  Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
COLORADO  1914  Troops  Breaking of miners' strike by Army.
MEXICO  1914-18  Naval, troops  Series of interventions against
nationalists.
HAITI  1914-34  Troops, bombing  19-year occupation after revolts.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC  1916-24  Troops  8-year Marine occupation.
CUBA  1917-33  Troops  Military occupation, economic 

[CTRL] MB: He has this mysterious phone number that he gives out to all the girls

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

-Caveat Lector-

[It might be interesting to check the phone records to see if Joyce Chang
had called the mysterious number before her disappearance, or if Condit
had called her.  And, remember that Noose Tightens... article (excerpt
below) as you're reading the following Bee article.  The woman provided The
Bee with two of the numbers that she said Condit gave her about five years
ago; messages left at those numbers were not returned. --MS]

Excerpt from The Noose Tightens... :

3) Which brings us to the case of Joyce Chang. You may recall that in May,
when Chandra's disappearance first made the news, there were stories about
Chang's disappearance from the same neighborhood two years ago. Her brother
led a candle light vigil for his late sister, whose body was found months
after her disappearance floating in the Potomac River. No one has ever been
arrested in this case.



http://www.modbee.com/metro/story/0,1113,281331,00.html


A 31-year-old woman, who grew up in the valley and formerly worked for two
California congressional offices, told The Bee over the course of several
interviews that she, too, had been given special phone numbers. This woman,
speaking on condition of anonymity, recalled how Condit continued to flirt
with me and basically proposition me over the course of several weeks.

He has this mysterious phone number that he gives out to all the girls,
the woman said, speaking before Zamsky's and Smith's accounts became
public. When you call this number you just hear music playing and then a
beep. That is when you are supposed to leave a message.



Modesto Bee Wednesday Jul. 11, 2001

Authorities search Condit's home in D.C.

By MICHAEL DOYLE
BEE WASHINGTON BUREAU


WASHINGTON -- Police following Chandra Levy's trail searched Gary Condit's
condominium Tuesday and early today, and want him to undergo a lie-detector
test and take a sample of his DNA.

Investigators announced the three approaches Tuesday, while insisting that
Condit is not a suspect in Levy's disappearance.

I think it's time that once and for all we find out exactly where we are
in this case, Police Chief Charles Ramsey told reporters late Tuesday
afternoon. We need to have some finality.

The Police Department's moves come after Condit admitted, according to
widespread reports that neither Condit nor his attorneys have disputed
lately, to having an affair with the 24-year-old Levy. The Modesto woman
disappeared more than 11 weeks ago, after completing an internship at the
U.S. Bureau of Prisons.

Local television stations showed police officers entering Condit's
apartment through the back door at about 11:30 p.m. EDT. Police left a
little before 3 a.m.

Executive Assistant Police Chief Terrance Gainer said he did not know
whether Condit was present when the search began. Asked if police intended
to do the entire search at one time, the official said: At the moment,
that's what they've agreed to.

As early as today, the U.S. attorney's office in Washington hopes to
interview a flight attendant who claims that she and Condit had an affair
and that he asked her to lie about it.

And as police probe Condit's behavior, a San Joaquin Valley woman has told
The Bee about encounters that she says she had with Condit -- encounters
that bear notable similarities to reports about Condit's alleged dealings
with the missing intern and the flight attendant.

Condit's attorney, Abbe Lowell, broached the idea of having the congressman
voluntarily submit to police searches, and even a lie-detector test, in a
Monday news conference.

Lowell's point was that Condit would fully cooperate with police and that a
separate call for a lie-detector test by the Levy family's Washington
attorney was unnecessary.


No subpoenas or warrants

The Police Department quickly accepted Lowell's idea, meaning that there
was no need for police to obtain subpoenas or search warrants.

I think it's a good idea, since he raised the issue, Ramsey said, adding,
that's not saying he's a suspect, and that's not saying we expect to find
something.

Lowell was in New York City handling another case Tuesday, and Condit
continued his long public silence. But his public relations consultant,
Marina Ein, indicated a willingness to work out the details with police.

What you're looking for could involve blood, hair, telltale signs of a
struggle, said Gainer, Washington's second-ranking police official.

Why else do you think we'd search?

He said authorities would conduct an open-ended search, and probably
would use a chemical and ultraviolet light process that allows blood to be
seen even on surfaces that have been cleaned or painted.

Police say they have no evidence of foul play, and still classify the
investigation as a missing person case.

Washington police want FBI agents to conduct the polygraph exam, asking
Condit about the details of his relationship with Levy, the last time he
saw her, and what he knew of her state of mind.

Those same questions were answered 

[CTRL] CONGRESSMAN TRAFFICANT SUPPORTS GRAVES' DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE REVIEW OF SECRET U.S. SPECIAL VIRUS PROGRAM

2001-07-11 Thread Steve

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REVIEW OF
SECRET U.S. SPECIAL VIRUS PROGRAM
To: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

http://www.boydgraves.com/press/071101.html

JULY 11, 2001

CONTACTS Boyd E. Graves, J.D. 330-744-5955
Congressman J. Trafficant 330-743-1914 ATT: Anthony
Zygote Media / N.O.A.H. 785-263-1871 ATT: Joel

CONGRESSMAN TRAFFICANT SUPPORTS GRAVES' DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE
REVIEW OF SECRET U.S. SPECIAL VIRUS PROGRAM

(Youngstown, OH) Ohio Congressman James Trafficant's office is scheduled to make
a live radio announcement Thursday morning with Buckeye Review editor Mike McNair
to support Boyd E. Graves' demand for the immediate Congressional review of the
mostly secret United States Special Virus Cancer Program (1962-1978).

According to the evidence Graves recently presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, the
secret virus program spent 15 years and $550 million dollars to create and mass
produce a human immune suppressing virus which is known today as HIV/AIDS. While
Dr. Graves has consistently solicited the support of Congressional members from
around the country, Trafficant will be the first to openly and publicly support the 
peoples'
call for immediate program review.

Boyd E. Graves, J.D., lead plaintiff for global AIDS apology, has doggedly pursued the
immediate review of this stealth federal virus development program in federal courts
since 1998. On June 4, 2001 the United States Supreme Court expeditiously denied
the peoples' petition for program review without comment.

Graves is considered the discoverer of the secret virus program's 1971 Research
Logic Flow Chart which is a blue print detailing the creation and mass production of 
the
new virus from start to finish. The Flow Chart, his petition drive, and volumes of
HIV/AIDS research materials is available on his web archives at www.boydgraves.com
http://www.boydgraves.com

The McNair Report can be heard on live on WGFT radio at 9:30 AM EST Thursday
morning. Listners are encouraged to call into the station to speak with Dr. Graves and
Mr. McNair at 330-744-5117.

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Re: [CTRL] Dubious Reports of U.S. Concentration Camps

2001-07-11 Thread Steve

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On 11 Jul 01, at 18:39, tenebroust wrote:

 I believe you.  My point in what I posted was to say that such camps may in fact 
exist BUT that anything people see is not going
 to be such camps in actuality.  The camps if they exist would not be observable and 
would not be in any area where they could be
 scrutinized.  Such a thing would have to be hidden very well, as such reports of 
same are probably all bogus.

Concentration camps would be underground, not on the surface where they are easily
photographed by planes or satellites.

I suspect that there is currrently slave labor consisting of cloned humanoids in bases
underground. But that is too much for most to take so just think of 'Heaven and Hell' 
as
we have been programmed to do for millinia.

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Re: [CTRL] Prudy, Gore, and Willie Horton

2001-07-11 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 09:28 AM 7/11/01 -0700, Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My source is Prudy. She graciously conceded the point that Gore used
the Willie Horton issue in his campaign against Dukakis.


No she didn't. She said that Gore used the furlough issue and that later
Bush seized on this issue and made it racial by introducing the case of
Horton.


And who was the furlough-ee about whom Gore was making an issue?
Answer:  Willie Horton

And, what was the race of the furlough-ee about whom Gore was making
an issue?
Answer: Black

And, why was Gore making an issue of a Black furlough-ee let loose
by Dukakis?
Answer:  To send a message to blue-collar white Democrat voters in south
Boston that Dukakis coddled black criminals and didn't care about black
criminals
lusting after and raping white women and murdering old white people.

Does anyone seriously believe that people in Massachusetts and in
South Boston in particular DID NOT KNOW which furlough case and which
furlough-ee Gore was talking about?  It was an infamous case, all over
the newspapers, for heaven's sake!


I don't make up the news, I just report it.

The reality is that Gore is a devious, deceitful, manipulative racist , and
liberals-in-denial can't accept that reality.   The Gore estate in Tennessee
is a page out of the antebellum South:  the white land owners lived in
the fancy big house, and the poor black tenents lived in the run-down
shack with the stopped up toilets.

Reality notwithstanding, I fully expect the Gore bitter-enders to cling to
their denial:
Gore in 2004!  The Nice People's Racist!

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Re: [CTRL] Socialized medicine in America

2001-07-11 Thread Damian B. Cooper

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At 09:33 AM 7/11/01 -0700, Nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Have you visited an emergency room recently. They are the primary
medical care facilities for the underclass.


If America had socialized medicine, emergency rooms wouldn’t be the
primary care facilities for the underclass because there wouldn’t be
forty million people without coverage.

Under Cuban or U.K. style socialism, there would be 300 million people in
America without
coverage, assuming that coverage is supposed to mean the availability of
real medical services and treatments that people actually need when they
actually need them.

You throw the word “socialist”
around as if you knew what it meant. Go buy a dictionary.




As you thoughtfully suggested, I did buy a dictionary!  It says right here:
 Socialism, n.
a failed, harebrained social and political theory, often likened to an
economic flat earth theory;
long since  discredited, yet still ardently adhered to by a small number of
persons who
themselves were raised by socialist or communist parents, or who were
dropped on their
heads or deprived of oxygen as infants.

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[CTRL] FR: Condit asked Levy to forego ID

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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One theory that has gained little attention, but that is being pursued
by authorities, according to police sources, is the possibility that
enemies of Condit may have sought to set him up by abducting the young
women.


http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b4c6dba2ca8.htm



Condit asked Levy to forego ID

The Hill (Page 14)
7-11-01
By Betsy Rothstein


Rep. Gary Condit (D-Calif.) instructed Chandra Levy, the missing
24-year-old intern, not to carry any personal identification when they were
together, according to police sources.

Levy, a former Federal Bureau of Prisons intern, was last seen on April 30
in Dupont Circle when she canceled her gym membership. Her disappearance
has gained international attention because she was romantically involved
with her hometown congressman.

The true nature of their relationship came to light only after Condit's top
aides had repeatedly insisted that Levy was only a great person and a
good friend.

In searching Levy's apartment, police noted that the only items that were
missing were her keys and a check for $54, a birthday gift from her
godparents. All her other personal items, including credit cards,
identification and cash, were left behind.

On Monday, Condit's Washington attonrey, Abbe D. Lowell, the high-profile
lawyer who represented the Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee
during President Bill Clinton's 1999 impeachment proceedings, said Condit
would consider taking a lie detector test in line with a request from
Levy's parents.

Police planned to search Condit's Adams Morgan condo Tuesday. Lowell said
he would give authorities any further information that they might request,
including DNA samples, cell phone records and access to Condit's aides.

As the media has relentlessly bombarded Condit, seeking answers to
still-unanswered questions, the once popular seven-term lawmaker has been
forced to be more forthcoming to the police.

According to published accounts, the day after Levy disappeared, Condit met
at Tryst, a local cafe, with an off-air reporter for ABC News. The reporter
has alledgedly also dated the lawmaker and maintained a longstanding
friendship with him.

Police are pursing various theories as to what may have happened to Levy,
who is still officially listed as a missing person. They range from
kidnapping and suicide to foul play.

One theory that has gained little attention, but that is being pursued by
authorities, according to police sources, is the possibility that enemies
of Condit may have sought to set him up by abducting the young women.

And who might that be? asked an incredulous Joseph DiGenova, a promient
local attorney and former U.S. attorney. Is this the spin that the
Democrats are putting out? If the police are pursuing that theory, then
they really are wasting their time. Who knew about this relationship? No
one, apparently, except him and her aunt -- and that's a rather bizarre
story.

DiGenova told The Hill: Searching his apartment now may be a fruitless
effort because of the 10 weeks that have passed. He has confirmed in
essence she has been there. Her DNA would be there. D.C. Police Chief
Charles H. Ramsey and Executive Assistant Police Chief Terrance Gainer
turned down requests for interviews Tuesday.

Condit's Modesto and Washington offices have not returned messages in the
past week. Before Levy's aunt, Linda Zamsky, revealed that Levy and Condit
had an affair, Condit aides readily returned phone calls to The Hill.


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[CTRL] On Condit: JW FILES [Derelection of Duty and Preferential Treatment] COMPLAINT AGAINST D.C. POLICE CHIEF RAMSEY

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
7/11/2001
Press Office
202-646-5172


JUDICIAL WATCH FILES COMPLAINT AGAINST D.C. POLICE CHIEF RAMSEY

Charges Dereliction of Duty and Preferential Treatment Toward Politician
Condit

Asks Internal Affairs Unit to Investigate


(Washington, DC) Today, Judicial Watch, the public interest law firm that
investigates and prosecutes government abuse and corruption, will file a
complaint against D.C. Police Chief Charles Ramsey and his Police

Department for dereliction of duty and political favoritism toward
Congressman Gary Condit.

It is apparent that Chief Ramsey and his D.C. Police Department, after
failing to declare Congressman Condit a suspect and waiting 11 weeks to
conduct a search of his condominium, among other matters, laid off
Congressman Condit based upon a fear that thoroughly investigating a
politician who serves in the House of Representatives - which not
coincidently funds the D.C. Police Department - is not good for one's
career, stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman.

It is also obvious that Chandra Levy was abducted, most likely by
professionals. Her complete disappearance underscores why swift action was
needed early on in the case.

Judicial Watch's motto is that 'No one is above the law!' However,
particularly in D.C., the privileged class of political elite get special
treatment. The conduct of Police Chief Ramsey and the D.C. Police
Department is just one example. What is more egregious is the D.C.
Police Department, by its inaction, has increased the likelihood that
Chandra Levy, if she is ever found, will be found dead, added Klayman.

Outrageously, not one U.S. Congressman has called for an investigation
into the Condit matter, much more for any disciplinary action by the House
of Representatives. As a result, Judicial Watch filed a complaint against
Congressman Condit yesterday with the House Ethics Committee, stated
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.


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[CTRL] Novak: The Hanssen Mystery

2001-07-11 Thread MIKE SPITZER

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From: Editorial Columns at:

www.Intellivu.com


Thursday July 12 03:00 AM EDT

The Hanssen Mystery

By Robert Novak


WASHINGTON -- Three and half-years ago, I reported that a veteran FBI agent
resigned and retired after refusing a demand by Attorney General Janet Reno
to give the Justice Department the names of top secret sources in China. My
primary source was FBI agent Robert Hanssen.

Disclosing confidential sources is unthinkable for a reporter seeking to
probe behind the scenes in official Washington, but the circumstances here
are obviously extraordinary. The same traitor who delivered American spies
into the Kremlin's hands was expressing concern about the fate of
intelligence assets in China.

When my source was revealed as a spy, my first fear was that I had been the
victim of disinformation by a truly evil man. I wrote my column of Nov. 24,
1997 only after other officials confirmed Hanssen's account. Nevertheless,
I now wanted to make doubly sure and rechecked my report's validity. I did
so, and several sources -- including one FBI agent who would not speak to
me in 1997 -- totally confirmed what I had written. I am absolutely
convinced that Hanssen told me the truth.

Then, why break a reporter's responsibility to keep his sources secret? I
wrestled with this question for months and finally decided that my
experience with Hanssen contributes to the portrait of this most
contradictory of all spies. Furthermore, to be honest to my readers, I must
reveal it.

In mid-November 1997, critics were accusing the Justice Department of
covering up 1996 campaign scandals. I was informed by Hanssen that Ray
Wickman, head of the FBI's intelligence unit monitoring Chinese operations,
was ordered in Reno's name to turn over secret sources in his Chinese
account. Wickman refused to surrender this information, resigned from the
FBI and retired from the government in September 1997. Wickman declined to
discuss this with me then and more recently, when I again approached him.

I never met Hanssen but talked to him three times over the telephone, the
first at length and twice more briefly to check out information I received
from other officials. He seemed to be well organized and deeply concerned
about the possible compromise of secret assets in a Communist-ruled
country.

Hanssen told me Wickman's sources were of the highest caliber and among the
FBI's most sensitive. All unattributed quotes in my column came from
Hanssen.

It was an insult, I quoted Hanssen in describing the demand made of
Wickman. He added: The purpose of the FBI is to safeguard sources. The
whole idea is to keep sources secret from the Justice Department. If
Justice is going to have full access to our files, we have no purpose.

I now have rechecked these quotes with another FBI source familiar with the
Wickman situation. He agreed completely with these sentiments and attested
to their accuracy.

My encounter with Hanssen came during what the government alleges was his
sabbatical from spying for over eight years from the fall of the Soviet
Union in 1991 until 1999, when KGB alumnus Vladimir Putin became Russia's
prime minister en route to the presidency.

Unanswerable questions are pondered. During the lengthy interim when he was
not betraying his country, could Hanssen have felt some genuine concern
about the security of U.S. assets in China if they fell into the hands of
the attorney general? Could he have experienced a sudden change of heart
after disclosing the identity of U.S. assets in Russia?

Or, was he merely using me to undermine Reno -- and his boss, FBI Director
Louis Freeh, as well? When I informed Hanssen that Freeh had told a member
of Congress that he had heard nothing about Wickman's resignation, he
replied disdainfully: Of course, he heard about it.

The accuracy of that assertion also has been newly verified to me by an
additional source.

Robert Hanssen is an enigma and will remain so at least until he reveals
himself. The speculation that he is purely the embodiment of evil tends to
be undermined by the validity of his report about Ray Wickman. He really
may have been living a double-life, one as a patriotic, religious American
and the other as spy of the century. That sounds fanciful, but any other
explanation fails.


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