SCSI CD-PD correction

[F. L. Szot/Dr. Lightning]

Dear Debian Mavens,


I identified the controller card for my CD-PD in my Compaq 9240
incorrectly!


It is an Adaptec 7850 PCI SCSI


Sorry.

Dr. L


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Re: Debian + AfterStep= no color (fwd)

[Philippe Troin]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:39:22 MDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
> I have no problems with the Slackware setup - Afterstep works beautifully
> and is very appealing visually.  Under Debian however, I have almost NO
> color.  Upon exit I see the message:
> 
> Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for [color]
> 
> My XF86Config is the same in both cases, as is my .steprc.  My root window
> has a simple grey background, I am running at 8bpp, nothing special loaded
> except the wharf and Afterstep icons.
[snip]

Afterstep in its default configuration is very color greedy. You 
might want to get rid of some icons and/or some gradients. There's a 
file called something.8bit in /usr/doc/afterstep, you'd better have a 
look at it.

Phil.




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Re: man pages, etc.

[Philippe Troin]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:54:07 CDT larry ives ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 wrote:

> I just used the Debian installation for linux and it was a pleasure =
> compared to slackware! There are a couple of things that don't work =
> however.
> I can't seem to execute a man page session. When I look for the man =
> executable I can't find it, all though I do have some gziped man pages.
> The "file" command doesn't seem to be present either. Can anyone help =
> me?

Err, did you install the mandb and file packages ?
If you've just got the base system, it's likely they're not here...

Phil.



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Re: staroffice / netscape debian packages?

[Igor Grobman]

> 
> Hi!
> 
> It may have been asked before but I didnt find it in my messagebase
> (must have been flushed out already.):
> 
> 1) is there a staroffice debian package? if yes, where?


There is a staroffice installer package just uploaded to Incoming.  We are not 
allowed to distribute staroffice itself.
> 
> 2) is there a netscape debian package? if yes, where? does not have to
> be the newest version, more important is wether is runs stable

there is a netscape installer package for 3.01 in contrib, communicator is 
being worked on.

> 
> 3) does the dosemu supports Windows?

Not really.  There are a couple of win emulators available: wine and twin.  
Twin hasn't been packaged yet, but is being worked on, and wine is available 
in project/experimental.


> Is there a debian ppc in development? I look forward to buy a ppc
> based machine next year, either a CHRP or a Amiga successor ;-)


Yes there is.  AFAIK, they are  just getting started.
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Re: Dual Pentium Machines

[Kevin M. Bealer]

Greg Vence wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Its time to upgrade...  What dual Pentium machines do people like and
>what have known problems?  I looked in LDP and didn't see anything
>regarding this topic.
>
>Thanx -- Greg.
>

I would suggest subscribing to linux-smp, and look at the archives for
the list, too.  I asked this question a week or two ago and then
decided that the Cyrix 200+ with a Gigabyte 586S board was the best
for the money(*).

Look at http://www.linux.org.uk/SMP/title.html for SMP Linux info, or
look at http://www.linuxhq.com/lnxlists/linux-smp/ for mailing list
archives.

If you ask for general information on motherboards, you will probably
be asked to look on the web for information.  The place I was refered
and re-refered to was http://sysdoc.pair.com/mainboard.html, but chop
off the filename for lots of general hardware information.

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(*): the board seems to have trouble with serial mice, and probably
serial anything.  It has two PCI devices that are "unknown PCI
devices" to linux.  The board has support for the Cyrix 200+ which
means it can generate a 75 MHz bus clock, without which the 200+
becomes a 160+ to 170+ or thereabouts.

Also, the board and CPU segfault without the Cyrix patch, and also
sometimes with it.  I have been playing with the RAM settings to see
if I can get it more stable; so far it seems good, but I haven't
tested it much yet.  You might want to email me before you buy one of
these, I am going to do some more testing tonight.  Also see the other
sources above of course.


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SCSI CD-PD problem

[F. L. Szot/Dr. Lightning]

Dear Debian Mavens,

I am brand new to Linux, being a Windows/Mac guy. No, make that a
Mac/Windows guy. I prefer the Mac. I want Linux to rid me of any contact
with Microsoft.


Anyway, my Compaq 9240 came with a combination CD-Rom/Optical drive.
It's made by Mitsubishi/Panasonic, Model #LF-1094D. It uses both cd's
and 650 Mb optical cartridges. Stick in a CD, and it works like a CD
device. Put in an optical cartridge, and it self-conforms as the door
closes to work with that. I like it a lot, but I have not been able to
get it to work with Linux.

I have installed Debian 1.2 from a CD, up to a point. I created the
install diskettes and went through the configuration process. The
installation of the "generic SCSI" driver was successful. The process
was uneventful. ;-)

But, when I try to mount the CD so I can install a software package from
the CD, the CD-PD is not recognized. 

Here are my questions:

1) Should the CD-PD work with the generic SCSI driver?

[Earlier, when Win'95 was installing itself on the same equipment, it
identified the controller card in my box that the device is connected to
as an Adeptec 785 PCI SCSI Controller. The CD FAQ does not mention a
CD-PD device.]

2) If not, what driver do I need, and where can I get it?

3) Am I asking the right questions?


I tried to e-mail Compaq to affirm which controller card I had, but they
have not answered my question. The machine came with no usable
documentation, neither on disk, nor online, nor written. (Actually, I
did get a simplistic answer, but the answer was to a question that I did
not ask. I made a second attempt, asking the same question again, but it
has been ignored.)

Also, Compaq does not stoop to answer *any* questions re. Linux running
on their machines, I have discovered. At least, that has been my
experience.


Thank you for the chance to post my problem here.

Dr. Lightning


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Re: NSLOOKUP don't work

[Michele Dalla Silvestra]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Tony Koehn wrote:

> After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this
> message:
> 
> *** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent host.domain
> *** Default servers are not available.
> 
> What did I do wrong?

You have to enable localhost entry.

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Re: NSLOOKUP don't work

[John F]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Tony Koehn wrote:

> Thomas,
> 
> My /etc/hosts file does have 127.0.0.1 localhost in it.
> My /etc/host.conf has "order hosts,bind" in it.
> 
> Tony
<> 
> > Tony Koehn wrote:
> > :After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this
> > :message:
> > :
> > :*** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent
> host.domain
> > :*** Default servers are not available.
> > :
> > :What did I do wrong?
> > 
> > See wether there's a line "127.0.0.1 localhost" in /etc/hosts.
> > See wether /etc/host.conf has "order hosts,bind" or "order bind,hosts"
> > in it. The first one will query /etc/hosts before going to the nameserver
> > configured in /etc/resolv.conf, while the other will do it in the reverse
> > order.

Check that you are primary-ing the localhost in /var/named/named.local
and named.boot.

see the DNS HOWTO.

John Foster


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Re: NSLOOKUP don't work

[Alex Yukhimets]

> Thomas,
> 
> My /etc/hosts file does have 127.0.0.1 localhost in it.
> My /etc/host.conf has "order hosts,bind" in it.
> 
> Tony

Tony,

do you have a nameserver line in /etc/resolv.conf?
It must be in the form:

nameserver 122.122.122.122

Of course, you would have to substitute 122.122.122.122 for the address of
your nameserver (127.0.0.1 if you are running it on your machine).

Alex Y.

> 
> 
> 
> --
> > From: Thomas Baetzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Tony Koehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP don't work
> > Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 10:01 AM
> > 
> > Tony Koehn wrote:
> > :After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this
> > :message:
> > :
> > :*** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent
> host.domain
> > :*** Default servers are not available.
> > :
> > :What did I do wrong?
> > 
> > See wether there's a line "127.0.0.1 localhost" in /etc/hosts.
> > See wether /etc/host.conf has "order hosts,bind" or "order bind,hosts"
> > in it. The first one will query /etc/hosts before going to the nameserver
> > configured in /etc/resolv.conf, while the other will do it in the reverse
> > order.
> > 
> > Ciao,
> > -- 
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> > http://www.fh-karlsruhe.de/~bath0011/>Visit my Homepage!
> > "The cowards never came, and the weaklings died on the way" - R.A.H.
> > 

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xdm login

[Victor Torrico]

Hello,

When logging into X using xdm, after I enter my login name and password, I get a
big white box in the upper left hand corner of the screen with a message that
boot is still in progress.  I depress the OK button in this box , it goes away
and all works fine in X.  This is kind of a pain to do on each login.  The box
is there whether xbanner is installed or uninstalled.  It never used to be there
but now it is and I've tried various purging and reinstalling of the main x
packages with no luck.

What must one do to get rid of this box?

Thanks,

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Re: Enlightment packaging

[Shaya Potter]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote:

> Amos Shapira wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager
> >(http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at
> >http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in
> >hamm's Packages list.
> >
> >Does anyone know anything about this?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >--Amos
> >
> >--Amos Shapira| "Of course Australia was marked for
> >133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st.  |  glory, for its people had been chosen
> >Jerusalem 93 805  |  by the finest judges in England."
> >ISRAEL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | -- Anonymous
> 
> (as I heard it...)
> 
> Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain
> operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which
> makes it not "free software".  It could be packaged into non-free
> however, as I understand it.
> 
> This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there
> may still be someone doing it.
> 

Actually, the part of the license which restricts it's use on Win95, might
not be valid w/ the GPL.  In talking with one of the people with Cygnus,
the reason they couldn't release the GNU-WIN stuff under the LGPL for most
people and everyone else could use the GPL, is because the [L]GPL doesn't
allow you to modify it.  So who knows, that might mean that it's under the
GPL only.

Shaya


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Re: Enlightment packaging

[Kevin M. Bealer]

Amos Shapira wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I though I saw that someone was packaging the Enlightment window manager
>(http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2154962/enlightenment, US mirror at
>http://www.kickit.org/enlightenment/), but I can't find it in
>hamm's Packages list.
>
>Does anyone know anything about this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>--Amos
>
>--Amos Shapira| "Of course Australia was marked for
>133 Shlomo Ben-Yosef st.  |  glory, for its people had been chosen
>Jerusalem 93 805  |  by the finest judges in England."
>ISRAEL   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | -- Anonymous

(as I heard it...)

Enlightenment has a license that prevents it's migration to certain
operating systems, which is a restriction on derived works, which
makes it not "free software".  It could be packaged into non-free
however, as I understand it.

This would discourage people from doing the packaging, however, there
may still be someone doing it.

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Re: Motif v lesstif - was Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 ...

[Alex Yukhimets]

> > > > What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible?
> > > > You must have OSF source for that :)
> 
> I know that if someone want to sell Motif, he needs to buy the source
> from OSF and compile it. And if he wants to use the name "Motif" to
> sell their compilation, he needs to pay extra royalties.
> 
> So, I think: US$ 70,00 is really *much* money for only one or two 
> files. 

There are many more Motif applications, Debian just doesn't "promote"
them into the distribution due to its "non-free" nature.

> I don't want to program with Motif, nor use the Motif Window 
> Manager for X (I use Afterstep) so, why not someone sells only the 
> libraries? Or even best: why Linux users don't join to buy the 
> source, compile these libraries, and distribute them for free?

$40,000 was the cost of the Motif source license ...

Alex Y.

> 
> Maybe I'm crazy, but who knows? It's an idea... ;-)
> 
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> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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> 
> There will be a time in which *all* the computers
>  in the Earth will be using Linux! Amen!

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Re: NSLOOKUP don't work

[Tony Koehn]

Thomas,

My /etc/hosts file does have 127.0.0.1 localhost in it.
My /etc/host.conf has "order hosts,bind" in it.

Tony



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> To: Tony Koehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: NSLOOKUP don't work
> Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 10:01 AM
> 
> Tony Koehn wrote:
> :After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this
> :message:
> :
> :*** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent
host.domain
> :*** Default servers are not available.
> :
> :What did I do wrong?
> 
> See wether there's a line "127.0.0.1 localhost" in /etc/hosts.
> See wether /etc/host.conf has "order hosts,bind" or "order bind,hosts"
> in it. The first one will query /etc/hosts before going to the nameserver
> configured in /etc/resolv.conf, while the other will do it in the reverse
> order.
> 
> Ciao,
> -- 
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> http://www.fh-karlsruhe.de/~bath0011/>Visit my Homepage!
> "The cowards never came, and the weaklings died on the way" - R.A.H.
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Re: XF86 3.3-3

[Kevin M. Bealer]

Christopher Jason Morrone wrote:
(clip)
>
>In any case, the XF86 3.3 packages are definitely broken.  I'd fill out a
>bug report, but unfortunately, I can't be any more specific than that
>right now.
>
(clip)
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I found my keyboard/screen, and possibly the whole thing (don't
remember) would lock up when I had an S3, but adding the "nolinear"
option fixed the problem.  This was with the older version, i.e. it
happened with 3.1 or 3.2.  However, other things changed with my
config at 3.3, so maybe you might want to try turning options like
this on and off.

Video was an S3 on the mainboard, now I have upgraded both and
"xf86config" got me a fairly good config, although my old compaq
monitor can't keep up to the new video card frequency wise.

(I know this post is a little light on the solution side, but noone
seems to have "definitely hit the nail" yet, so.)

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Debian + AfterStep= no color (fwd)

[vanryn]

Hi all,

My specs: 486 DX-2 66mhz
  20 megs RAM
  STB Horizon video card w/ 1 meg RAM

I currently have Slackware with XFree 3.1.2 installed on HDA5 and I
recently decided to try Debian 1.3 with XFree 3.3, which is now installed
on HDA3.  Afterstep is my window manager in both cases.

I have no problems with the Slackware setup - Afterstep works beautifully
and is very appealing visually.  Under Debian however, I have almost NO
color.  Upon exit I see the message:

Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for [color]

My XF86Config is the same in both cases, as is my .steprc.  My root window
has a simple grey background, I am running at 8bpp, nothing special loaded
except the wharf and Afterstep icons.

I have shutdown everything I can prior to starting X, I have plenty of
swap space allocated.  The results are the same whether I start X as root
or user.

I have been RTFM but cannot find anything that refrences this particular
problem.  RGB.txt is in the proper place and path set.

Suggestions?  Did I forget to install / configure something?  Do I
need to downgrade to 3.1.2?  The window manager is FUNCTIONAL but it
certainly does not look as good.  The thing that really confounds me is
that the same setup works so well with Slackware.

TIA

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cp command

[Syd Alsobrook]

Really easy

The best way to copy a directory tree from one drive to another is 

cp -pr /usr /hd

Thanks

Syd

http://www.uc.edu/~alsobrsp

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Re: Motif v lesstif - was Re: Netscape Communicator 4.01b6 ...

[Alexander Gieg]

> > > What do you mean? Making Lesstif and Motif binary compatible?
> > > You must have OSF source for that :)

I know that if someone want to sell Motif, he needs to buy the source
from OSF and compile it. And if he wants to use the name "Motif" to
sell their compilation, he needs to pay extra royalties.

Well, when someone buy a compiled Motif (for about US$ 70,00), he 
receives a great amount of tools to develop applications with it, 
plus the libraries binaries. But there are *many* guys, like me, who 
won't use these tools. I, for example, would buy it only for the 
shared libraries, because with them many applications (like 
StarOffice) could work faster and with less memory.

So, I think: US$ 70,00 is really *much* money for only one or two 
files. I don't want to program with Motif, nor use the Motif Window 
Manager for X (I use Afterstep) so, why not someone sells only the 
libraries? Or even best: why Linux users don't join to buy the 
source, compile these libraries, and distribute them for free?

Maybe I'm crazy, but who knows? It's an idea... ;-)

[]'s Alexander Gieg
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man pages, etc.

[larry ives]

I just used the Debian installation for linux and it was a pleasure =
compared to slackware! There are a couple of things that don't work =
however.
I can't seem to execute a man page session. When I look for the man =
executable I can't find it, all though I do have some gziped man pages.
The "file" command doesn't seem to be present either. Can anyone help =
me?


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Re: Problems with Debian 1.3 new installation and ThinkPad 365XD

[Timothy J. Miller]

Paul Rightley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I thought that the consensus was that the 365XD cannot boot bzImages.
> I went the route of installing Debian 1.1 (with boot disks using
> zImages) and then upgrading.  The most direct solution is to compile
> an appropriate zImage on a working Linux machine and add that to the
> boot floppy.

I've gone and created an appropriate zImage (at least, it boots
the ThinkPad 760LD) and I'd like to use it in place of the bzImage on the
rescue disk.

The root.bin image loads, my replacement kernel loads off disk,
uncompresses, and boots up to the point of mounting the root FS, where it
failes utterly.  Last set of output from the boot is:

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
VFS: Mounted root (minix filesystem)
[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
[me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0]
Transaction block size = 512
[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 0,check=n,conv=b,uid=0,gid=0,umask=022,bmap]
[me=0x0,cs=0,#f=0,fs=0,fl=0,ds=0,de=0,data=0,se=0,ts=0,ls=0]
Transaction block size = 512
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:01

Everything the readme.txt file asks for is compiled in: ramdisk,
initrd, msdos, fat, minix, elf, ext2fs, procfs.  The rdev.sh script on
the rescue disk sets the boot device to /dev/ram0; I've a /dev/ram, but
no /dev/ram0.  Setting /dev/ram in place of /dev/ram0 doesn't work.  

The new image is built from the current debian kernel sources
(2.0.27); the bzimage on the rescue disk is 2.0.29 IIRC.

What am I missing?

(BTW-- XFree86 3.3 SVGA server on a Trident Cyber9320
[a.k.a. tgui9320lcd] sucks large rocks through small straws.  It works,
and it's usable, but any moving object creates "static" lines, similar to
another report.)

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Re: Newbie Question

[Karlheinz Nolte]

Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, David Wilde wrote:
> 
> > Firstly let me say that I have never used Linux and I am learning as I go
> > along.
> >
> > I have installed debian ver 1.2 on a second hard drive on my PC. I didn't
> > encounter any real problems during installation so I assume everything is 
> > OK.
> > Now I would like to install a GUI (fvwm) and I have downloaded a copy of
> > the same from the Web. I copied the file onto a floppy but I cannot access
> > my A:/ drive.
> 
> If you configure Linux for networking, you will be able to access the
> Internet directly via your ISP.  You can then use dselect to retrieve and
> install Debian packages directly from ftp.debian.org or its mirrors.
> 
> >
> > During startup I have established the following:
> >
> >   hda1  is my DOS drive containing Win95
> >   hdb   is my CDROM
> >   hdc1  is my Linux Swap
> >   hdc2  is my Linux Native
> >   fd0   is my 1.44M Floppy
> >
> > I used the command  "df" and all it shows is:
> >
> >   /dev/hdc2
> >
> > Why can I not see/access my other drives? Have I not done something? Any
> > help would be much appreciated.
> 
> You have to mount the partitions before Linux can access them.  See the
> man pages on mount and fstab.  ('man mount' and 'man fstab')
> 
> To mount your floppy drive, you should use something like:
> 
> mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt,
> 
> where this drive will show up in your file system as /mnt.
> 
>[some stuff deleted...]
>

Hi David,

all what Bob sayed is OK. But I never mount a floppy disk. I prefer to
access it either with the "tar" commmand or - if I want to transfer
files to a DOS/WIN-PC - with the "mtools". "tar" should always be
installed on your system and the "mtools" package you may found in the
section misc. If you have knowlege of DOS, the use of the mtools
commands is very easy:

DOS   mtools
--
dir a:mdir a:
copy *.* a:   mcopy * a:
cd \my.dirmcd /my.dir

and so on. But don't forget to "protect" the asterisk, if you specify it
on the floppy part of the command:

mcopy "a:*" .

otherwise the shell wants to replace it with all filenames in the
current directory (see man bash - or whatever shell you use).

Hope that helps.

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Re: Smail configuration

[Robert D. Hilliard]

 In smailconfig, you must choose option (1), then after several
more questions, you give your ISP's mail server's name in response to:

"Do you have a smarthost available (and accessible via SMTP) ?

A smarthost is a system to which you forward mail you don't want to
deliver yourself; it presumably has better connectivity or routing
information than you do.  Commercial providers usually provide a
smarthost for their customers, and large organisations will often have
a site mail switch which can be used.  Use of a smarthost is strongly
recommended (you'll be able to specify exactly when to use it soon).

If a smarthost is available please enter its name (otherwise, `none').
Enter value (`x' to restart):"

 Then choose (1) to the following:

"Do you wish to use the smarthost for:
 (1) All outbound mail.  This is good if your system is poorly
connected, eg via dialup SLIP, as you don't have to talk
to distant machines yourself, and it allows you to send out
just one copy of a message for all its the remote recipients.
 (2) Mail that you have failed to find a way to route.  This
means that mail for any unknown hosts or domains will be
sent to the smarthost in the hope that it will know better;
if it doesn't the smarthost should bounce it back to you.
This is recommended for most situations, and usually results
in faster end-to-end delivery than always using the smarthost.
 (3) Only mail to the `awkward' UUCP and BITNET domains.
These domains don't appear in the Internet routing tables,
and how to reach them varies depending on your location.
Use this if your smarthost's admin has asked you to avoid using
the smarthost unnecessarily, or if it is unreliable or very slow.
Select a number from 1 to 3, from the list above."

 This will give the results that I think the original poster was
looking for.

Bob

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:02:05 Martin Schulze wrote:
> 
> Bob Nielsen writes:
> 
> > I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from
> > smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1):
> > 
> > You must choose one of the options below:
> >  (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this
> > machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP.
> >  (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site):
> > You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your
> > smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery.
> 
> This should be easily changable to use a smtp smarthost instead
> of uucp smart host.
> 
> >  (3) Satellite system:
> > No mail is to be delivered or routed here.  Any mail generated
> > on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP.
> 
> Have you tried this?
> 
> >  (4) Local delivery only:
> > You are not on a network.  Mail for local users is delivered.
> >  (5) No configuration:
> > No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and
> > should not be used.  You must then do the configuration yourself later 
> > or
> > run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root.
> 
> Umh I see, smailconfig lacks this special option.  I'll send you
> my configuration in a separate mail.
> 
> Regards
> 
>   Joey
> 
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md5sum failure update

[Chris Smith]

Thanks to those who wrote.
The suggestion was that I had ftp set to ascii mode but was not the case. 
My ftp program is fairly reliable in auto mode and the files were all the 
correct size.
What I have since done is add the -b (binary mode) switch in running 
md5sum.exe instead of blindly following the instructions with only the -cv 
switches set. With -b set I receive an OK for all 85 files. Now once I 
figure out how to concatenate these files with whatever is in my NT box, 
and write a CD, I may be on my way to more wonderful Linux thrills.

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Anacron/Cron

[Robert D. Hilliard]

 I have finally installed anacron.  Since my machine doesn't run
24 hours a day, no cron scripts have ever run, so my log files are
getting out of hand.

 The package description for anacron says "It's also a good
replacement for cron on systems, that don't run continuously 24 hours a
day but are powered on and shut down several times a day."

 Now that anacron is taking over the daily, weekly and monthly
cron jobs, can I safely remove cron, or is it required for other
system functions? 

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staroffice / netscape debian packages?

[Martin Steigerwald]

Hi!

It may have been asked before but I didnt find it in my messagebase
(must have been flushed out already.):

1) is there a staroffice debian package? if yes, where?

2) is there a netscape debian package? if yes, where? does not have to
be the newest version, more important is wether is runs stable

3) does the dosemu supports Windows?

Appart from that the Debian installation on a 486 worked like a charm.
I installed from the base disc I made out from a CD with Debian 1.2
and then installed everything else via network (since the machine I
installed debian on did not have a working cd rom drive at the
moment.). Have to upgrade to kernel 2.0.29 tough.

I certainly can recommend the debian distribution to everyone who
wants to install Linux and will do that. Hope that debian m68k will
sooner or later get into this mature state.

Is there a debian ppc in development? I look forward to buy a ppc
based machine next year, either a CHRP or a Amiga successor ;-)

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Re:Netscape Mail 3.x

[Curt Howland]

>From: Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> Anyway, it won't send mail. I get "FCC file not found".
>That is a problem with the mail dir not existing.  Create the dir that is 
>listed
>in the mail properties.

Sure enough, that was exactly the problem. Thank you
for pointing out something obvious that I'd completely
missed.

After installing this at other times and having the 
same problem, you'd think I might remember. It was the
"FCC File Not Found" that threw me. Why FCC of all the
words they could have used...

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Re: Smail configuration

[Martin Schulze]

Bob Nielsen writes:

> I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from
> smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1):
> 
> You must choose one of the options below:
>  (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this
> machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP.
>  (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site):
> You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your
> smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery.

This should be easily changable to use a smtp smarthost instead
of uucp smart host.

>  (3) Satellite system:
> No mail is to be delivered or routed here.  Any mail generated
> on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP.

Have you tried this?

>  (4) Local delivery only:
> You are not on a network.  Mail for local users is delivered.
>  (5) No configuration:
> No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and
> should not be used.  You must then do the configuration yourself later or
> run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root.

Umh I see, smailconfig lacks this special option.  I'll send you
my configuration in a separate mail.

Regards

Joey

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xserver-svga 3.3-3 on an lcd

[Lukas Eppler]

There were a lot of problems I saw... hopefully solved now. My problem is
different: I manage to get into X as before, but the server seems to add
noise to the image when something changes on the screen. It begins with
some stars (single pixels) before even the grey pattern appears,
continuously pattering the screen while moving the cursor, like an old tv
without an antenna.

This happens with several Chipset entries. After some tries even the
normal text font begins to show some strange pixels. (My t's showing up
here are quite ugly...)

What can I do to get my screen back?

my old Device config in xf86config: (I used the best match)

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Trident TGUI9420DGi (generic)"
VendorName  "Unknown"
BoardName   "Unknown"
#VideoRam1024
Ramdac  "sc15025"
Clockchip   "sc11412"
EndSection

this is my new try which shows the same snow:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Trident TGUI9420DGi (generic)"
VendorName  "IBM"
BoardName   "Laptop card"
VideoRam1024
ChipSet "tgui9320lcd"
EndSection

this shows up when starting the server:

XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: disabled
(**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings)
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200,
   3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms)
(**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "Trident TGUI9420DGi (generic)"
(**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "My Monitor"
(--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
(--) SVGA: PCI: Trident TGUI 9320 rev 227, Memory @ 0x0800, 0x0820
(--) SVGA: Revision 3.
(--) SVGA: Using Trident programmable clocks
(**) SVGA: chipset:  tgui9320lcd
(**) SVGA: videoram: 1024k
(**) SVGA: Using 8 bpp, Depth 8, Color weight: 666
(--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 80.000 MHz
(**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock =  40.000
(**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock =  31.500
(--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 800x600
(--) SVGA: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
(--) SVGA: Using Linear Frame Buffer at 0x0800, Size 1MB
(--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture)
(--) SVGA: XAA: No acceleration primitives defined.

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Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority

[Dima]

>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 >George Bonser writes:
 >> Ok, then why not adopt some default standard (Say PAP like windows does)
 >> that you MAY CHANGE but for newbies, asks them what the phone number is,
 >> what their password is and username and then sets the darned thing up to
 >> act like Win95 does on a PPP login so that any ISP that supports Windows
 >> DUN by default...
 >
 >Good idea. 

ditto

 >I also still think that the install script should offer "Dial up
 >an ISP and use dynamic IP" as a separate menu item.  Selecting this would
 >bring up a menu in which "Would you like to set PPP up like Win95 DUN"
 >would be one of the choices.
 
No, you're assuming that "a user" knows what dynamic IP is.  They should
be separate entries at top-level.

 >> ...this is about 100% of US providers...
 >
 >There are still plenty of ISP's out here using screwball arrangements.

Well, even if only 50% of ISP's are Win'95-oriented this will still
make ppp config easier for 50% of new users -- and that's about 50%
better then what we have now.

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Re: Smail configuration

[Bob Nielsen]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Martin Schulze wrote:

> Alex Monaghan writes:
> > Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ?
> > 
> > Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, 
> > under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. 
> > 
> > I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the 
> > non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally.
> 
> run smailconfig (run from postinst) and configure as internet
> leaf site/ with smarthost.
 
I'd like to do the same thing, but I don't get that option from
smailconfig (smail_3.2-3 from 1.3.1):

You must choose one of the options below:
 (1) Internet site: you send and receive Internet mail on this
machine, using SMTP over TCP/IP.
 (2) UUCP to smarthost (upstream site):
You send and receive mail via UUCP; outbound mail is sent to your
smarthost (probably your service provider) for routing and delivery.
 (3) Satellite system:
No mail is to be delivered or routed here.  Any mail generated
on this system is sent to a central mail switch using SMTP.
 (4) Local delivery only:
You are not on a network.  Mail for local users is delivered.
 (5) No configuration:
No configuration will be done now; your mail system will be broken and
should not be used.  You must then do the configuration yourself later or
run this script, /usr/sbin/smailconfig, as root.

Bob


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Re: PPP script working at last.

[Adrian Bridgett]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
David Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: 

> David Densmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I _can_ believe it and I don't think it's your fault -- after there is a
> directory /etc/ppp all the files _should_ be there, IMO. As it is now, the
> configuration of ppp is not easy to understand.

IIRC the new PPP (version 2.3?) has all its scripts in /etc/ppp.

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Re: Smail configuration

[Martin Schulze]

Alex Monaghan writes:
> Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ?
> 
> Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, 
> under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. 
> 
> I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the 
> non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] & [EMAIL PROTECTED] locally.

run smailconfig (run from postinst) and configure as internet
leaf site/ with smarthost.

Regards

Joey

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Re: mailing list archives needs updated..

[sacampbe]

>Although I found the information I was looking for, it would be nice to
> have archives updated.  Isn't this done automagically?

The maintainer of the archive is returning from vacation today. For some
unknown reason, the web pages stopped being updated just before he left
(although the archives are functioning properly).
Expect them to be fixed within the next few days.

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Re: ? missing files... ?

[joost witteveen]

> > i still do not appear to have the make program
> > or stdio.h for that matter. 
> > 
> > does anyone know what package these utilities come
> > in, either one of the basic ones, or a development
> > package? 
> 
> The library file stdio.h comes in libc5-dev.  There should be a package
> for make.  I would go to www.debian.org/packages.html if you can't find
> it.  A handy tip for when you can't find a file you think you might have:
> dpkg -S filename  

dpkg -S filename is _very_ useful, execpt when you're looking for
a package that contains a file that is not on your system:
"-S" only finds packages that are on your system.

For files that are not on your system, I recomment looking at the 
Contents-i386.gz, on your local mirror.

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Re: Netscape 3.x mail

[Shigeru IKEDA]

> Anyway, it won't send mail. I get "FCC file not found".
> 
> Not being one to believe too seriously in every conspiricy theory
> I run accross in alt.conspiricy.black-helocopters, do tell what
> is this "FCC file"?

Check the setting of Netscape.

Open the dialog from Options -> Mail & News Preferences -> Compose,
and make sure the file you set in the input box following the label
'by default copy outgoing messages to:' is exist.

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Re: Netscape 3.x mail

[Randy Edwards]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Curt Howland wrote:

> Downloaded and installed Netscape, excelent install, I commend
> the writer of that package.
> Anyway, it won't send mail. I get "FCC file not found".

   Did you catch the little blurb at the end of dselect's Netscape install
which explains what you need to modify in order to make Netscape do mail?

   I can't remember what it was exactly, but recall that it had something to
do with changing Netscape's default mail settings and chmod'ing the system's
mail.

   As an aside, I wish there was a way for dselect to force a "press ENTER"
after displaying those types of comments; they flash by far too quickly.

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Re: Netscape 3.x mail

[Shaleh]

> Anyway, it won't send mail. I get "FCC file not found".
That is a problem with the mail dir not existing.  Create the dir that
is listed in the mail properties.


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Netscape 3.x mail

[Curt Howland]

Good morning, all.

Downloaded and installed Netscape, excelent install, I commend
the writer of that package.

Anyway, it won't send mail. I get "FCC file not found".

Not being one to believe too seriously in every conspiricy theory
I run accross in alt.conspiricy.black-helocopters, do tell what
is this "FCC file"?

Netscape 3.02, Debian 2.0.3

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Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble

[Brian K Servis]

H Huang writes:
>
>On 13 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> 
>> > I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3.
>> > 
>> > When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys:
>> > 
>> > F1 gives P
>> > F2 gives Q 
>> > F3 gives R 
>> > F4 gives S
>> > 
>> > F5 - F10 work just fine.
>> > 
>> > When I start mc in a rxvt, all F-Keys work just fine.
>> > 
>> > Has someone else encountered this problem ?
>> > 
>> So i'm not alone with this! :-( The only difference is that F1 does

I get the same behavior with Matlab.  So it is not an mc related issue.
It must be an XFree86 3.3 issue.

My $.02


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Re: ? missing files... ?

[dpk]

> hello. i' am looking for a little help
> form anyone with a little more experience
> with the debian distribution.
> 
> i have installed debian 1.3 over the net
> (yes it was slow) and i have it up and running
> including xfree86. however i do not appear to
> have a complete development environment. although
> i have installed gcc and other development pkgs
> i still do not appear to have the make program
> or stdio.h for that matter. 
> 
> does anyone know what package these utilities come
> in, either one of the basic ones, or a development
> package? 

The library file stdio.h comes in libc5-dev.  There should be a package
for make.  I would go to www.debian.org/packages.html if you can't find
it.  A handy tip for when you can't find a file you think you might have:
dpkg -S filename  

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Re: X-Windows...

[Dave Cinege]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:50:26 -0500, Tony Koehn wrote:

>Can anyone tell me why I would want X-Windows???
>
>Is this just a cheesy windows look a like or is there some advantages.  I

Well all the networking things, IE running remote clients, etc

>did install it once ( a long time ago) but didn't think it even compared to
>Windows 3.0...

X-windows doesn't have any user interface. That is good. But there 
really isn't much of a selection of GUI's for Xthis is the problem.

The problem with Windows is the peice of shit GUI it has, you're stuck 
with.

Right now I live in OS/2 and pray that somebody will port the WPS to X soon.

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Re: Help transfering data....

[Frank Barknecht]

Kevin J Poorman hat gesagt: // Kevin J Poorman wrote: ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Hi.
> 
> I just got a new hard drive and wish to transfer my root fs to this new
> drive as it is larger
> 
> now to the hard part ...
> 
> I Tryed to do a cp -a * /mnt (where the new hd was mounted)
> 
> but it sat there cp'ing files for an hour and never got past the proc
> directory  did I do something wrong ...
> 
> 
> I know that before on this list some published a way to do this with tar
> I would like to do it that way if posible 
> 
> 

I don't like all this tar-tricks people normally suggest, 
because I am to stupid to remember them ;)

A simple solution is the "-x"-switch to cp (Try "man cp").
"copy -ax" copies everything only out of the one filesystem where you started.

/proc is another `filesystem` so it won't get copied to your "/mnt"-directory.

I think that is what you wanted to do in the first place.

After you're done you will have to create a /proc directory in /mnt and edit 
the mount table in /etc/fstab.

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Re: ? missing files... ?

[Alex Yukhimets]

> hello. i' am looking for a little help
> form anyone with a little more experience
> with the debian distribution.
> 
> i have installed debian 1.3 over the net
> (yes it was slow) and i have it up and running
> including xfree86. however i do not appear to
> have a complete development environment. although
> i have installed gcc and other development pkgs
> i still do not appear to have the make program
> or stdio.h for that matter. 
> 
> does anyone know what package these utilities come
> in, either one of the basic ones, or a development
> package? 

You have to download and install "libc5-dev" and "make"
packages from bo/binary/devel

Alex Y.
> 
> you help is much appreciated.
> 
> //daryl
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Re: dosemu and lredir problem redirecting drives

[Ben Gertzfield]

> "Paul" == Paul Kirschner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Paul> I installed Debian 1.3.1 with DOSEMU.  Mapping drives
Paul> according to the documentation didn't work for me...

FreeDOS unfortunately does not work with lredir. Try Caldera's OpenDOS
or (shudder) Billy's Ms. dos.

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? missing files... ?

[Daryl Williams]

hello. i' am looking for a little help
form anyone with a little more experience
with the debian distribution.

i have installed debian 1.3 over the net
(yes it was slow) and i have it up and running
including xfree86. however i do not appear to
have a complete development environment. although
i have installed gcc and other development pkgs
i still do not appear to have the make program
or stdio.h for that matter. 

does anyone know what package these utilities come
in, either one of the basic ones, or a development
package? 

you help is much appreciated.

//daryl


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NSLOOKUP don't work

[Tony Koehn]

After getting debian installed I tried to do a nslookup and I get this
message:

*** Can't find server name for address 127.0.0.1: Non-existent host.domain
*** Default servers are not available.

What did I do wrong?

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dosemu and lredir problem redirecting drives

[Paul Kirschner]

I installed Debian 1.3.1 with DOSEMU.  Mapping drives according to the
documentation didn't work for me...

"Welcome to dosemu 0.66!"
C:\> lredir e: \linux\fs\tmp
Error 3e redirecting drive E: to \LINUX\FS\TMP
C:\> lredir e: \linux\fs/msdos
Error 40 redirecting drive E: to \LINUX\FS/MSDOS 

(BTW /msdos does exist and mounted to /dev/hda1)

C:\> lredir help
Usage: LREDIR [drive: LINUX\FS\path [R]  HELP]
Redirect a drive to the Linux file system.

LREDIR X: LINUX\FS\tmp
  Redirect drive X: to /tmp of Linux file system for read/write
  If R is specified, the drive will be read-only
  ${home} represents user's home directory 


This is the syntax according to the notes.  What am I doing wrong?



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X-Windows...

[Tony Koehn]

Can anyone tell me why I would want X-Windows???

Is this just a cheesy windows look a like or is there some advantages.  I
did install it once ( a long time ago) but didn't think it even compared to
Windows 3.0...

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Smail configuration

[Alex Monaghan]

Is there a simple way to get smail to forward mail to my ISP ?

Currently it appears to do it's own name resolution and delivery, 
under Win 95 all mail got sent to the ISP to do this. 

I am currently getting some delivery timeouts. I'd rather pass the 
non-local delivery to my ISP. I still want to be able to deliver 
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Re: 1.3.1 upgrade: getting rid of the package base 1.1.0-13 -- dselect and downgrading dosemu

[Eloy A. Paris]

Hi,

At 04:45 PM 7/11/97 PDT, Bruce Perens wrote:

>However, edit /var/lib/dpkg/status and remove the paragraph
>about the "base" package, and that will effectively purge it.
>Forcing dpkg to remove the package removes all of the files in /dev.
>It's my error, sorry.

But removing this paragraph by hand will still leave the files

base.conffiles
base.list
base.postinst

in /var/lib/dpkg/info, right?

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RE: Problems with Debian 1.3 new installation and ThinkPad 365XD

[Paul Rightley]

On 11-Jul-97 Timothy J. Miller wrote:
>   I'm attempting a new install on the ThinkPad 365XD w/800x600
>display, 40Mb RAM, CDROM and external floppy; at boot, the system reports
>root.bin loaded, then linux, then it simply halts.

I thought that the consensus was that the 365XD cannot boot bzImages.
I went the route of installing Debian 1.1 (with boot disks using
zImages) and then upgrading.  The most direct solution is to compile
an appropriate zImage on a working Linux machine and add that to the
boot floppy.

>   The ThinkPad 760LD is running an upgrade from Debian 1.2.  I
>didn't have any boot problems with the initial Debian 1.1 installation on
>the 760LD, *or* with the complete reinstall I did with Debian 1.2.  The
>linux-2.0.30 without modifications; in the past it has also booted the
>2.0.27, 28, and 29.
>
>From messages on this list, the 760LD works fine with the boot floppies.  I
would be interested in your experience with the 365XD if you get Debian
installed.  I have had troubles with sporadic kernel panics and other errors. 
Although I followed the instructions for upgrading from 1.2 to 1.3, I have ended
up with a bad ldso package (probably through a kernel panic or other error that
went unnoticed by me).  Now I cannot use dpkg to successfully perform any act to
rescue my system.  So far, nobody on the debian-users list has been able to
suggest a way to rescue the system.  Maybe I will just have to reinstall from
scratch - so much for the power of Debian on my Thinkpad.

Paul Rightley
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Re: PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)

[xenub]

At 21:50 13/07/97 -0500, you wrote:
>The truly knowledgeable person shares his knowledge.  Why should we not
>share our knowledge of how to configure ppp with new users?  Do you want to
>force them to go through some sort of silly rite of passage?

No it`s not what I meant. I didn't seen it this way. When I first
installed Linux two weeks ago, I had troubles with my ISP. I called the
Tech support line, explained my problem. The guy said he knew what my
problem was but don't remember what to do to fix. He said he has a book at
home on Linux that explained that but he didn't remember the command. I
just said ok. And searched on Linux and Debian documentations that was
online. I finnally found what was my problem on my own. While I was
searching on the documantation, I found a lot of other things that was
interresting. If my ISP had gave me the answer when I called him, I would
be at the same level as I was before to call him. I had just do what he
told me to do. That's it that's all. And now? If another problem appears.
What will I do? Call my ISP begging for help? No. I learned how to fix my
problems on my own. By taking the time to read the man pages, and
documentations. If you give every answers to every problems that a new user
encounter, how will he learn? Why should he learn to read man pages? He
don't need to, he just have to call his ISP, ask how to do that, vomit the
command the ISP told him to do without even know what the command mean, and
that's it. "Give food to someone, and when he'll be hungry, he will always
ask you for food. Show him how to go fishing, and when he'll be hungry,
he'll go fishing on his own and will be self-sufficient." (Excuse my
english) Sure there are problems that are a lot more important than setting
up a ppp connection. But every new user, have to sit down, take some hours
to read some man pages and HOW-TOs, and just learn by themself how to set
up their PPP. They have to realize that Linux is not Win95. It's not
"Idiot-Proof". As a new user, I can tell you that setting up my ppp
connection was hard. Really. But now that I know, it was simple. And it is
now simple because I understood what I did to make it work. The point is
not to force new user to pass through silly rite of passage. It's just to
let them learn. Not without sharing our knowledge. As soon as I will have
more knowledge, I'll write some texts about things that hadn't been
documented before. Giving material to discover how to do things is not
(IMHO) like calling an ISP, asking how to do that, the ISP gives you the
command and hang up. You type in the command like a dumb and don't know
what you're doing, you just type in. I don't think an ISP will take the
time to explain everything in details on why do this, what this command is,
etc.


This is nothing more then my opinion.

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Re: Weekly log reporting system for apache?

[Chad D. Zimmerman]

There is Analog that is a .deb package under net or web on the ftp sites.
It does an OK job, personally, I use a perl script program called
Accesswatch as far as I know it is not a .deb package.  It is at
http://accesswatch.com/ next to nothing in configuration is needed and it
runs without a cgi-bin (I have it set in the cron to run at 11:45 every
night).  That is it's one drawback, it is a daily program, it doesn't do
it weekly or monthly ... maybe ask the author for a version to do that
next release.

Chad


On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

> Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice 
> readable reports from accesses to users pages?
> 
> My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me  : <
> 
> If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be 
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Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

[Pann McCuaig]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> > The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured
> > in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and
> > make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine.
> 
> From: Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install
> > kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear
> > after powering down, but linux comes back just fine.
> 
> Try "cat /proc/apm". If it is there, APM _is_ in the kernel and my information
> was out of date. If not, you really should be running a kernel with it before
> you hit the suspend button.

"No such file or directory" -- your information is _not_ out of date.

I have a small (40mb) partition on this laptop that I must use primarily
for work-related DOS/Windows development -- I need (want) linux available,
but normally boot in from DOS which keeps my modem alive, and neither the
APM or PCMCIA features are important to me at this point.

I just wanted to point out that, at least on this model, suspend/resume
doesn't require APM (at least not if you're not using or don't need to
access PCMCIA cards).

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Serious problem with adduser_3.4

[Pedro I. Sanchez]

I have the following problem with this version of adduser. Here's what I
get when I try to add a user to my system:

# adduser adams
Adding user adams...
Selecting from 1000 2
(0,0,1,1,2,2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,6,7,7,8,8,9,9,10,10,11,11,13,13,15,20,21,21,22,24,25,26,29,30,30,31,31,32,33,33,34,34,35,35,36,36,37,37,40,42,50,60,100,101,102,102,103,104,105,1000,1000,1001,1001,1002,1002,1003,1003,1004,1004,1005,1005,1006,1006,1007,1007,1008,1008,1009,1009,1010,1010,1011,1011,1012,1012,1013,1013,1014,1014,1015,1015,1016,1016,1017,1017,1018,1018,1019,1020,1020,1021,1021,1022,1022,1023,1023,1024,1024,1025,1025,1026,1026,1027,1027,1028,1028,1029,1029,1030,1030,1031,1031,1032,1032,1033,1033,1034,1034,1035,1035,1036,1036,65534,65534).
Adding new group adams (1037).
groupadd -g 1037 adams
Adding new user adams (1037) with group adams.
useradd -d /home/adams -g adams -s /bin/bash -u 1037 adams
useradd: unknown group adams
adduser: `useradd -d /home/adams -g adams -s /bin/bash -u 1037 adams'
returned error. Aborting. 

# tail -2 /etc/group
+:::
adams:x:1037: 

As you can see, "adams" is added after the NIS entry and then "useradd"
can't see it. Is this a bug?

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Re: Weekly log reporting system for apache?

[Dave Cinege]

On 14 Jul 1997 13:13:42 +0200, Ingo Fischenich wrote:

>"Dave Cinege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice 
>> readable reports from accesses to users pages?
>> 
>> My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me  : <
>> 
>> If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be 
>> better used.
>
>Not debianized, but quite useful :
>
>http://www.unimelb.edu.au/pwebstats/pwebstats.html

Holy Hell! I was just looking for something to come up with an ASCII listing
of domain/MB  to email to users. This sucker gives color bar, pie, and plot  
graphs!!! Wow!! (Glad I didn't get the junk my ISP had!! ; > )

>Hope this helps

Yes... Thank you. I think this may be worthly of a deb package


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Re: gdb dependencies

[Shaya Potter]

No, those packages are still in Incoming on master.

Shaya

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
>  I installed gdb_4.16-10 from unstable. It depends on ncurses-3.4 and
>  libreadlineg2. However, there are no such packages.
>  Is this a bug or are these packages missing at the moment?
> 
>  Thanks,
> 
>   Ulf
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Re: Thanks (was Future debian user)

[Shaya Potter]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Shaleh wrote:

> Well looks like I am going to gve Deban a try.  Thanks for all the
> suggestions and offers.  I received 30 some odd mail on my first day --
> I am impressed. And most of it was civil help and questions. One last
> question --> where is the best and most inexpensive place to get a
> Debian CD distribution.  I have seen Debian's list, I just wanted some
> personal opinions.

It depends, if you have a fast ethernet connetion, you can download the
base disks, rawrite them, and ftp the rest over.  Otherwise you can buy
the official or (oficial [sic]) CD from CheapBytes or LSL for just a few
bucks.

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Re: Weekly log reporting system for apache?

[Ingo Fischenich]

"Dave Cinege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice 
> readable reports from accesses to users pages?
> 
> My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me  : <
> 
> If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be 
> better used.

Not debianized, but quite useful :

http://www.unimelb.edu.au/pwebstats/pwebstats.html

Hope this helps

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Weekly log reporting system for apache?

[Dave Cinege]

Are their any (hopfully debianized) reporting systems that will create nice 
readable reports from accesses to users pages?

My last ISP had something he made but you won't give them to me  : <

If there is nothing out there I will write something, but my time could be 
better used.

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question on emacs and xterm under XFree 3.3-3

[G. Kapetanios]

Hi,
 
I have just upgraded to XFree 3.3-3 . All went smoothly but I have two
questions
Firstly when I start emacs I get the following warning

Warning: Cannot convert string "%s" to type %s

Can anyone tell me what this is ?

Secondly I used to have xterm-color as my default xterm Now I get the
standard xterm. How can I get xterm color back?


  Thanks for any help
   George 


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Re: [gtk-list] Re: sane problems

[Alex Yukhimets]

> > > > these are the errors i received:
> > > > 
> > > > gdk.c:31: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
> > > 
> > >   This sounds to me like you need to install the XFree86
> > > developement package. For RedHat systems, this is the XFree86-devel rpm,
> > > but I don't know what it would be for your Debian system (although I'm
> > > sure there is one). Install it and try again.
> > 
> > Yep, xlib6-dev.  I think you need the xpm and xpm-dev packages as well,
> > but I could be wrong.
> > 
> > Ian
> ok, here's what i went and got:
> 
> getting: stable/binary-i386/libs/tk40_4.0p3-5.deb (486302)
> getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xpm4.7-dev_3.4g-9.deb (29020)
> getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xlib6-dev_3.3-3.deb (614682)
> getting: stable/binary-i386/devel/tcl76-dev_7.6p2-4.deb (630164)
> 
> ...and after i did a ./configure, i did make, and got these errors:
> 
> ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUngrabPointer'
> ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XPutImage'
> ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreatePixmap'
> ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUnmapWindow'
> ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XSetFillStyle'
> ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreateGC'
> ../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'

You surely missed libX11.so.6 which is in plain xlib6 package.
And,  there is possibility that loader line in Makefile had incorrect
order of libraries specified.

Alex Y.

> 
> ...actually, there were *way* too many of these to list, these were just
> the last ones. 
> 
> what else should i get???
> 
> thanks,
> matty
> 
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Re: dosemu lredir don't redir :-(

[Mike]

Brent Hendricks wrote:
>But OpenDOS from Caldera uses lredir just fine.  I haven't had any
>problems using OpenDOS with DOSEMU.  No more MS operating systems on my
>computer!  Now if only we could redistribute OpenDOS with DOSEMU.

The second best thing would be to have an .deb package that would
automatically download OpenDOS from the Caldera ftp site and install it
under DosEmu. Or does such a package already exist?

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Linux Router Project -- About to get working and need more people!

[Dave Cinege]

Linux Router Project -- About to get working and need more people!

The Linux Router Project is about to begin work on our minimal root fs.
Very crucial to this are people that truely understand the dependencies of 
networking functions and utilities. I'm looking to use Debian 1.3.1 as the 
base to get working so guru's that know the Deb system will be of the most 
help.

Base root size can be no more then 1mb compressed (about 2.5mb uncompressed)
so all 100% unessential parts must go. (Please don't send me mail saying
it can't be done. At least 3 of us on the list have done it, and we just 
want a complete base for the project to work with.)

If you're interested visit the LRP webpage @
http://www.psychosis.com/linux-router/

and join the mailing list.

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Any AMD users ? troubles with direct mount

[Oliver Landsmann]

Hi there !

I tried to direct mount some filesystems like descriped in the 
reference - No success :(

Mounting under a toplvl works fine but no direct access like the /usr/man
or the rwho example ...

Any hints or maps for me ?

b.t.w. i am using debian 1.3 and 
amd 5.2.2.2 of 1992/05/31 16:53:21 bsd44-beta #0: Wed Apr 16 12:11:08 CEST 1997
Built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for an i386 running linux version 2.0.

thanxs


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Re: [gtk-list] Re: sane problems

[Matthew C. Thompson]

> > > these are the errors i received:
> > > 
> > > gdk.c:31: X11/Xatom.h: No such file or directory
> > 
> > This sounds to me like you need to install the XFree86
> > developement package. For RedHat systems, this is the XFree86-devel rpm,
> > but I don't know what it would be for your Debian system (although I'm
> > sure there is one). Install it and try again.
> 
> Yep, xlib6-dev.  I think you need the xpm and xpm-dev packages as well,
> but I could be wrong.
> 
> Ian
ok, here's what i went and got:

getting: stable/binary-i386/libs/tk40_4.0p3-5.deb (486302)
getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xpm4.7-dev_3.4g-9.deb (29020)
getting: stable/binary-i386/x11/xlib6-dev_3.3-3.deb (614682)
getting: stable/binary-i386/devel/tcl76-dev_7.6p2-4.deb (630164)

...and after i did a ./configure, i did make, and got these errors:

../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUngrabPointer'
../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XPutImage'
../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreatePixmap'
../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XUnmapWindow'
../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XSetFillStyle'
../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XCreateGC'
../gdk/.libs/libgdk.so.1.0: undefined reference to `XOpenDisplay'

...actually, there were *way* too many of these to list, these were just
the last ones. 

what else should i get???

thanks,
matty



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Re: gdb dependencies

[joost witteveen]

> 
> Hi,
> 
>  I installed gdb_4.16-10 from unstable. It depends on ncurses-3.4 and
>  libreadlineg2. However, there are no such packages.
>  Is this a bug or are these packages missing at the moment?

neighter. They are just still sitting in "incoming".

I've put those packages in 
  ftp://rulcmc.leidenuniv.nl/debian/incoming

for those that cannot access master's incoming. However, there are
many other (better) incoming mirrors, that I keep forgeting to
save a pointer to.

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Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble

[Paul Seelig]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Huang) writes:

> On 13 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > > I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3.
> > > 
> > > When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys:
[...]
> This problem is addressed in file README.xterm that came with the mc
> source distribution.
> 
> I built my own mc debian package. README.xterm is located in
> /usr/local/lib/mc/term/. I'm not sure if the official mc debian package
> includes this file.
>
Yes, i know this document but this really makes me wonder why it
actually worked flawlessly up to XFree-3.2 but no more since upgrading
to XFree-3.3?  It worked ok with xterm without any special tweaking as
described in README.xterm but the switch to XFree-3.3 obviously broke
something for MC and i'd like to know what it is!?

Well, i'll send another message to the MC mailing list.

   Cheers, P. *8^)
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gdb dependencies

[Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler]

Hi,

 I installed gdb_4.16-10 from unstable. It depends on ncurses-3.4 and
 libreadlineg2. However, there are no such packages.
 Is this a bug or are these packages missing at the moment?

 Thanks,

  Ulf

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Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

[Philippe Troin]

Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux
Philippe Troin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$Id: packages.sgml,v 1.48 1997/07/14 05:59:38 phil Exp $

1.  Note

I've taken over the maintenance of the "Work-Needing and Prospective
Packages for Debian GNU/Linux" from Sven Rudolph starting version 1.44
of this document.  I've incorporated a lot of changes since. Please
notify me of any errors.

2.  General Questions

2.1.  Before reading this document

You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ
.

2.2.  Purpose of this document

This document is intended to identify areas that need your
contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite
often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ.

2.3.  Getting newer versions of this document

Newer versions of this document will be available via FTP and HTTP:

o  

o  

2.4.  Feedback

Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Philippe
Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Please mention to which version of this document
your comments refer.

3.  Orphaned packages

(An orphaned package is a package that has no current maintainer.)

Please inform me via e-mail:

o  when you find that you need to orphan a package

o  when you believe that the following list is incomplete

o  when you would like to maintain one of these packages.

Orn E. Hansen :

o  dialdcost

o  hextype

o  speak-freely

o  xega

o  xmailtool

o  xspread

Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  compress-package

o  ppd-adobe-common, ppd-adobe-extra, ppd-adobe-misc, ppd-gs

o  psptools

llucius [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  dialog

Dominik Kubla [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  arpd

o  cflow

o  csh

o  lsof

o  open

o  ptx

o  spell

o  vlock

Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  zyxel

Raul D. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  j1 (in old source format)

o  sam (in old source format)

o  ucbmpeg (in old source format)

o  ucbmpegplay (in old source format)

Michael Nonweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  ipx

o  nas

o  ncpfs

Jim Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  mh-papers

o  term

o  witalian

o  pari, paridoc

o  wnorwegian

Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  xosview (probably to be abandonned)

Doug Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  apsfilter

Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  elisp-manual

o  emacs-lisp-intro

o  giftrans

o  idutch

o  mathpad

o  mfbasfnt

o  wdutch

o  wenglish

Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  statserial

o  xarchie

o  bibindex

J.A.vanderMost [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  dmalloc

Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  opie

Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  fsp

Patrick Weemeeuw [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  tripwire

Larry 'Daffy' Daffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  xscreensaver

Guy R. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  dld (do we still need this ?)

Patrick J Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  mailpgp

Dermot Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  radiusd-merit

Fabien Ninoles [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  vrweb

Volker Ossenkopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  workman

Others:

o  xcompat (should we drop it ?)

o  libc4 (a.out compatibility)

4.  Packages needing a new maintainer

Please inform me via e-mail:

o  when you find that you'd like to discontinue maintaining a package

Please inform the mainatiner of the package:

o  when you would like to maintain one of the packages.

Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  chimera (should be upgraded to v1.70)

o  enscript

o  seyon

o  lpr

o  xonix

o  xpat2

o  xsok

Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  xarclock

o  lha

o  dosfstools

o  sendfile

Joe Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  lxtools

Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  ncsa

o  genromfs

o  bridge/bridgex (Bridging Tools for Kernel 2.0.X/2.1.X)

o  berolist

o  adbbs (needs a better setup of pre-customized files)

o  gpc

o  libgpc2

o  gpc-doc

o  verse

o  freefont

o  fdos

o  sharefont

o  newsx

o  syslinux

o  pash

o  zmailer

o  isite

o  knfs

o  poppassd

o  transproxy

o  loadlin

o  freetype

o  omir

o  komirr

o  worklog

o  mserver

Karl Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  sysutils

Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  dvi2tty

o  hyperlatex

o  info2www

o  latex2rtf

o  mysql

Vincent Renardias [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  ftplib

o  lde

o  libdnd1

o  libdnd1-dev

o  macutils

o  mcvert

o  offix-clipboard

o  offix-editor

o  offix-execute

o  offix-files

o  offix-trash

o  xabacus

o  xfishtank

o  xgalaga

o  xmcpustate

o  xodo

Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  html2latex

o  icmake

o  ntfs

o  xftp

Joost Witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

o  bin86

o  libpaper

o  axe

o  es

o  pixmap

5.  Packages that someone is working on

Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian
packages, but someone is working on providing a package.

If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the
responsible person listed below.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) :

o  sw

Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

[Bruce Perens]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured
> in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and
> make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine.

From: Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install
> kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear
> after powering down, but linux comes back just fine.

Try "cat /proc/apm". If it is there, APM _is_ in the kernel and my information
was out of date. If not, you really should be running a kernel with it before
you hit the suspend button.

Thanks

Bruce


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Re: adduser

[Bob Nielsen]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:41:04 -0700 (MST), Bob Nielsen wrote:
> 
> >The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me.
> 
> No it does not.
> 
> Check the files it copies from /etc/skell. Yep, it only copies the first 
> line.

Sorry, I didn't even realize that it was supposed to copy those files.
I've only added a couple of users and set them up by hand.

Is there a command to delete a user and remove the passwd and group
entries?

Bob


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Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble

[H Huang]

On 13 Jul 1997, Paul Seelig wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3.
> > 
> > When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys:
> > 
> > F1 gives P
> > F2 gives Q 
> > F3 gives R 
> > F4 gives S
> > 
> > F5 - F10 work just fine.
> > 
> > When I start mc in a rxvt, all F-Keys work just fine.
> > 
> > Has someone else encountered this problem ?
> > 
> So i'm not alone with this! :-( The only difference is that F1 does
> nothing at all, that F2 invokes the help screen which should have been
> invoked by the former function key, etc.  The 'Learn keys' dialog
> doesn't change this behaviour at all. :-(
> 
> Please submit a bug report as soon as possible.
> 
> Is there any other means than switching back to XFree-3.2 to resolve
> this problem?
> Cheers, P. *8^)

This problem is addressed in file README.xterm that came with the mc
source distribution.

I built my own mc debian package. README.xterm is located in
/usr/local/lib/mc/term/. I'm not sure if the official mc debian package
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Re: adduser

[Dave Cinege]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:41:04 -0700 (MST), Bob Nielsen wrote:

>The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me.

No it does not.

Check the files it copies from /etc/skell. Yep, it only copies the first 
line.

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Re: XTerm on XFree86 3.3-3 trouble

[Paul Seelig]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I have a strange XTerm behaviour after upgrading to XFree 3.3-3.
> 
> When I start mc in a xterm I have trouble with the F-Keys:
> 
> F1 gives P
> F2 gives Q 
> F3 gives R 
> F4 gives S
> 
> F5 - F10 work just fine.
> 
> When I start mc in a rxvt, all F-Keys work just fine.
> 
> Has someone else encountered this problem ?
> 
So i'm not alone with this! :-( The only difference is that F1 does
nothing at all, that F2 invokes the help screen which should have been
invoked by the former function key, etc.  The 'Learn keys' dialog
doesn't change this behaviour at all. :-(

Please submit a bug report as soon as possible.

Is there any other means than switching back to XFree-3.2 to resolve
this problem?
Cheers, P. *8^)
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Re: Toshiba laptop resume mode

[Pann McCuaig]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> The kernel we distribute doesn't have Advanced Power Management configured
> in because it crashes some systems. Install the kernel-source package and
> make a custom kernel, with APM enabled. That should handle resume just fine.

FWIW my 2105 handles resume just fine with the stock debian install
kernel, either 2.0.27 or 2.0.29. Of course, the PCMCIA cards disappear
after powering down, but linux comes back just fine.

Cheers,
 Pann


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Re: Thanks (was Future debian user)

[Randy Edwards]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Shaleh wrote:

> I am impressed. And most of it was civil help and questions.

   Don't worry, the hostile and rude answers are given to you later. 

> One last question --> where is the best and most inexpensive place to get
> a Debian CD distribution.

   Check out http://www.lsl.com and/or http://www.cheapbytes.com.  They both
have the official Debian 2-CD set for sale for less than $5.

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Thanks (was Future debian user)

[Shaleh]

Well looks like I am going to gve Deban a try.  Thanks for all the
suggestions and offers.  I received 30 some odd mail on my first day --
I am impressed. And most of it was civil help and questions. One last
question --> where is the best and most inexpensive place to get a
Debian CD distribution.  I have seen Debian's list, I just wanted some
personal opinions.


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Re: PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)

[jghasler]

A. M. Varon writes:
> Righto! linux treats you as a knowledgeable person, not some idiot who
> does'nt know how to use an OS.

The truly knowledgeable person shares his knowledge.  Why should we not
share our knowledge of how to configure ppp with new users?  Do you want to
force them to go through some sort of silly rite of passage?
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Re: adduser

[Bob Nielsen]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me.

Oops, let me rephrase that.  It automatically created an unknown default
password.  I had to remove the password field from /etc/passwd as root and
then add the password with passwd. 

Bob


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Re: adduser

[George Bonser]

It works but installs only the first line of the dot-files in the home
directories.


On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Bob Nielsen wrote:

> The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me.
> 
> On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, George Bonser wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I manually ftp'd the one from hamm and installed it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote:
> > 
> > > greetings,
> > > 
> > > so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am
> > > running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect).
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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Re: adduser

[Bob Nielsen]

The version in 1.3.1 (adduser_3.2.deb) works for me.

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, George Bonser wrote:

> 
> I manually ftp'd the one from hamm and installed it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote:
> 
> > greetings,
> > 
> > so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am
> > running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect).

Bob


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Re: PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)

[jghasler]

Louis-Philippe Alain writes:
> You want to know why I switched to Linux?  Because Win95 was boring. I
> think what makes Linux be Linux is the fact that it's not very user
> friendly if you compare it to Win95. The nore it's hard to make a Linux
> box running as you want, the more you learn.

There is nothing more boring than a simple task made needlessly complex.
Do you program in machine code?  I once did.  Learned a lot.  Never want to
do it again, and see no reason why anyone else have to should do it.

> I love to read HOW-TOs and Documents to LEARN how to make what I want to
> make. I don't want it to be easier.

Nobody is threatening to prevent you from making things as difficult for
yourself as you wish.  We just want to allow people to apply their talents
to new problems, instead of solving the same old ones over and over.
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Re: Newbie Question

[Bob Nielsen]

On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, David Wilde wrote:

> Firstly let me say that I have never used Linux and I am learning as I go
> along.
> 
> I have installed debian ver 1.2 on a second hard drive on my PC. I didn't
> encounter any real problems during installation so I assume everything is OK.
> Now I would like to install a GUI (fvwm) and I have downloaded a copy of
> the same from the Web. I copied the file onto a floppy but I cannot access
> my A:/ drive.

If you configure Linux for networking, you will be able to access the
Internet directly via your ISP.  You can then use dselect to retrieve and
install Debian packages directly from ftp.debian.org or its mirrors. 

> 
> During startup I have established the following:
> 
>   hda1  is my DOS drive containing Win95
>   hdb   is my CDROM
>   hdc1  is my Linux Swap
>   hdc2  is my Linux Native
>   fd0   is my 1.44M Floppy
> 
> I used the command  "df" and all it shows is:
> 
>   /dev/hdc2
> 
> Why can I not see/access my other drives? Have I not done something? Any
> help would be much appreciated.

You have to mount the partitions before Linux can access them.  See the
man pages on mount and fstab.  ('man mount' and 'man fstab')

To mount your floppy drive, you should use something like:

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt,

where this drive will show up in your file system as /mnt.

fstab is a file which describes which partitions you want to mount when
the system boots, or at least preconfigure so that you can mount them
later with a simplified version of the mount command.  For instance, here
is a portion of my /etc/fstab file:

/dev/hda7 / ext2   defaults 1 1
/dev/hda6 /usr  ext2   defaults 1 1
/dev/hda5 /dos  vfat   defaults,umask=000 0 0
/dev/hdc  /cdromiso9660 defaults,noauto,user 0 0
/dev/fd0  /floppy   ext2   defaults,noauto,user 0 0
/proc /proc proc   defaults
/dev/hda8 none  swap   sw


/dev/hda6 and /dev/hda7 are Linux ext2 partitions.  You probably already
have something like this in your /etc/fstab.  I have added /dev/hda5,
which is a Win 95 partition and /hdc, my cdrom.

If your kernel doesn't support vfat, you can use type msdos for 8.3
filenames on the dos drive.  


> 
> Lastly, can anyone point me to a good Newbie FAQ?
> 

I'd recommend a good book, such as 'Running Linux' by Matt Welsh and Lar
Kaufmann, published by O'Reilly and Associates.

Bob


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Re: adduser

[Randy Edwards]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote:

> so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am
> running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect).

   As far as I know, the adduser in 1.3.1 hasn't been fixed for some strange
reason.  However, if you grab the adduser package out of hamm (unstable)
it'll work fine.

   Just download the hamm adduser, stick it into /tmp, and then go to /tmp as
root and do a dpkg -i adduser*.  The adduser package is a script so there's 
no worries about lib6 libraries or anything.

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Re:PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)

[A. M. Varon]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Louis-Philippe Alain wrote:

> I disagree... Why make it easier? I use Linux for 2 weeks now. I used Dos
> and windows for 8 years before. You want to know why I switched to Linux?
> Because Win95 was boring. I think what makes Linux be Linux is the fact
> that it's not very user friendly if you compare it to Win95. The nore it's
> hard to make a Linux box running as you want, the more you learn.
> Personnally I love to learn. I love to read HOW-TOs and Documents to LEARN
> how to make what I want to make. I don't want it to be easier. I want to
> continue to work hard to do what I want to... It's the beauty of OSs like
> Linux.

Righto! linux treats you as a knowledgeable person, not some idiot who
does'nt know how to use an OS.

my $ 0.02.

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Re: adduser

[George Bonser]

I manually ftp'd the one from hamm and installed it.



On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Matthew C. Thompson wrote:

> greetings,
> 
> so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am
> running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect).
> 
> thanks,
> matty
> 
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adduser

[Matthew C. Thompson]

greetings,

so what's the fix for adduser? it's not working for me at all. i am
running 1.3.1 (installed 1.3 and update on a daily basis with dselect).

thanks,
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Re:PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)

[George Bonser]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Louis-Philippe Alain wrote:

> 
> > On 13 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >Yes, I agree that a dynamic IP install configuration would be a boon to
> > newbies getting PPP up and working smoothly (at least it would've for me:-).
> > 
> >However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning
> > Win95) than your suggestion...  :-)
> 
> I disagree... Why make it easier? 

Because ISP's can not afford to train their tech support staff on how to
set up systems running Linux.


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Newbie Question

[David Wilde]

Firstly let me say that I have never used Linux and I am learning as I go
along.

I have installed debian ver 1.2 on a second hard drive on my PC. I didn't
encounter any real problems during installation so I assume everything is OK.
Now I would like to install a GUI (fvwm) and I have downloaded a copy of
the same from the Web. I copied the file onto a floppy but I cannot access
my A:/ drive.

During startup I have established the following:

hda1  is my DOS drive containing Win95
hdb   is my CDROM
hdc1  is my Linux Swap
hdc2  is my Linux Native
fd0   is my 1.44M Floppy

I used the command  "df" and all it shows is:

/dev/hdc2

Why can I not see/access my other drives? Have I not done something? Any
help would be much appreciated.

Lastly, can anyone point me to a good Newbie FAQ?

Thanks in advance
David


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Re:PPP install (was:nobody is running find at too high a priority)

[Louis-Philippe Alain]

> On 13 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>Yes, I agree that a dynamic IP install configuration would be a boon to
> newbies getting PPP up and working smoothly (at least it would've for me:-).
> 
>However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning
> Win95) than your suggestion...  :-)

I disagree... Why make it easier? I use Linux for 2 weeks now. I used Dos
and windows for 8 years before. You want to know why I switched to Linux?
Because Win95 was boring. I think what makes Linux be Linux is the fact
that it's not very user friendly if you compare it to Win95. The nore it's
hard to make a Linux box running as you want, the more you learn.
Personnally I love to learn. I love to read HOW-TOs and Documents to LEARN
how to make what I want to make. I don't want it to be easier. I want to
continue to work hard to do what I want to... It's the beauty of OSs like
Linux.

As you can notice, english is not my mother language so, please, be
indulgent.

This was my 0.02$

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ignorance" - Carmen Martin
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Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority

[George Bonser]

On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Randy Edwards wrote:

>However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning
> Win95) than your suggestion...  :-)

Why? Think of it this way, linux is so darned configurable that it can be
made to act like nearly anything.  Since the consumer internet service
providers bent over backwards to serve Win95, why not use that as
leverage. They go to all that trouble and expense to service Windows and
we simply hop on for the ride.  The message to the ISP's is "Linux is no
more difficult to support than Win95".  Then the ISP can say "Cool, we
work with Linux!".  Shoot, we can even make a simply tk front end that
looks JUST like DUN if we wanted to and the customer support tech at the
ISP can use the SAME scripts they use with Win95 to talk a newbie through
configuration,

In other words, make Win95 look like it caused the ISP to lay out a lot in
equipment, software, and training and Debian can just go right along for
the ride  for free.


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Re: nobody is running find at too high a priority

[Randy Edwards]

On 13 Jul 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Good idea. I also still think that the install script should offer "Dial up
> an ISP and use dynamic IP" as a separate menu item.  Selecting this would
> bring up a menu in which "Would you like to set PPP up like Win95 DUN"
> would be one of the choices.

   Yes, I agree that a dynamic IP install configuration would be a boon to
newbies getting PPP up and working smoothly (at least it would've for me:-).

   However, I think it could be worked better (read: without mentioning
Win95) than your suggestion...  :-)

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POP2 and POP3 servers?

[Tim Bell]

Hi,

I've just installed Debian 1.3.1 on a server which used to run
Redhat 4.1. The Redhat installation had an RPM package called
imap, which provided ipop2 and ipop3, POP servers. I haven't
been able to find anything comparable in Debian, the closest I've
come is cucipop and qpopper which both provide just POP3 servers.
I've had to install the Redhat package using alien.

So, is there a Debian package with a POP2 and POP3 server?

Thanks,

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mailing list archives needs updated..

[David Puryear]

Hi,

Although I found the information I was looking for, it would be nice to
have archives updated.  Isn't this done automagically? 

Cheers,
David


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