date:20010302

also sprach will trillich (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:50:16AM -0600):
 when you enter the linux world, you'll be amazed at the uptime
 (167 days for my server downstairs) and perplexed at how much
 there is that can be done, and how much there is to learn in
 order to do it. you're about to enter a Kahuna Bigtime learning
 experience that makes college finals look like pop quizzes. when
 you begin to 'see the light' you'll wanna back up and start over
 on occasion... i certainly have!

exactly.

   I would like advice about keeping W95.
  
  no! why?
 
 only for legacy stuff that linux doesn't run. but if there's
 nothing there you need, ditch it. (tho a 40+gb drive will have
 room even for windows 98 plus debian, i'd think.)

this is where vmware comes in. you wouldn't want billy boy to affect
your uptime, would you??? and if you are into linux and still feel the
need to play windoze games, then buy another computer, install linux
on it too, and start playing with pvm! or anything else.

martin

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Re: 3c905/network problems

2001-03-02 Thread Ron Peterson

Pete Meyer wrote:
 
 Hi all...I'm having difficulty getting my network card (3c905c) work under 
 debian.  I've tried using the 3c59x driver (I was using the wrong one 
 before).  It installs ok, but then DHCP won't configure the network.  I know 
 that there's a server present, because that's how windows is configured.  
 I've also tried the 3c90x driver, but can't get it to compile.

I was recently trying to get a 3c905cx-txm working.  I compiled the
module as

gcc -c 3c90x.c -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer \
   -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 \
   -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=486 \
   -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ \
   -DMODVERSIONS \
   -I/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.18pre21/include

That compiled with no errors.  I installed the module, updated
/etc/modutils/aliases, did update-mdules and depmod -a.  No errors. 
Still didn't work.  You have a different card, though, so maybe you'll
have better luck.  (You might not need the -DMODVERSIONS, I can't
remember.)

You should have a line like the following in /etc/network/interfaces. 
You probably know that, but thought I'd mention it.

iface eth0 inet dhcp

Also make sure your BIOS setting for Plug-and-Pray OS is turned off.

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Re: ghost for linux?

On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:36:24PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
 also sprach Alvin Oga (on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 06:25:31PM -0800):
  donno...not everybody makes a bootable cdrom for their backups...
  i think its nuts...to make a cdrom backup... but..oh well...
 
 a bootable cdrom is quite hard to make... rockridge extensions and all
 that jazz. no, you cannot just dd your harddisk onto the cd (if you
 could dd to cdr), and expect it to boot. you'd need ramdisks et al.

Nah, dead simple:) using cdrecord/mkisofs/xcdroast from woody (sources)

   mkdir /tmp/cd
   ncftp some-debian-mirror
 get debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-2.88/rescue.bin
 into /etc/cd/rescue.bin
   cp whatever /tmp/cd
   mkdir /tmp/cdboot.catalog

   xcdroast
 set it up
 choose Create CD
choose Master Track
   choose master source
  select /tmp/cd
   choose boot options
  enter rescue.bin and boot.catalog
   choose create session/image
  calculate size
  build image
 and burn it

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Re: [OT] mutt colors vs. TERM types

2001-03-02 Thread Christopher Mosley



On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, will trillich wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 09:15:17PM -0500, Christopher Mosley wrote:
  
  
  On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, will trillich wrote:
  
   when using mutt under termtype 'linux' (i.e. `setenv TERM linux`)
   mutt's headers and 'active selection' bars flash, driving me
   nuts. when i change to `setenv TERM vt220-color` it's a nice,
   calm green and blue, with no flash.
  
  Since vt220-color is not a real term type. Is this
  the terminfo I (cmosley) gave you or someone quite a while ago for an
  apple vt220 emulation - the problem being that you could not get color
  using the standard vt220 ? Or maybe something you put together yourself?
 
 i'm trying 'xterm-color' and it's working pretty well in most
 instances. the most aggravating thing is when exiting LESS or
 VIM the screen is cleared. sometimes it's nice to ^Z out and
 still have some on-screen reference to refer to as i diddle
 around with a grep or locate or find, before hopping back in.
 with 'xterm-color' the scren is reset, all text erased.
 using 'vt220-color' vim and less don't reset the screen...
 and with 'linux' TERM, i get the flashing headers, without
 the screen-reset... which FM amd i looking for?

Well as you know it likely has nothing to do with your .muttrc which
was your original idea. I assume, since I have no problem 
with mutt on linux console or in X using xterm,linux etc termtype,
that these problems exist using this mac emulator when telneting or something.
It must have something to do with the idiosyncrasies of this mac emulator.

I cannot tell you what specific attributes to compile in or leave out
of your terminfo, inorder to get both a non-blinking, non-clearing 
screen when you shell out, or even if this is do-able - in light of the 
mysteries of this particular emulator.  I can only suggest you putz around
trying various term types. So look in /usr/share/terminfo/*/* there are
are a gazillion term types to setenv TERM gazillion. Of Course focus
the vt* and xterm types. You can always add the ansi color strings if you
find a black and white term that works. 


 If you would like to try a non random approach, finding the particular
terminfo strings that might effect these particular attributes and edit,
compile your own terminfo, there is a terminal usenet group.
  
Be forwarned there is no guarantee that either of these
approaches will have a successful outcome - but they well might.

  

   

  
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RE: debian on laptops

2001-03-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry


On 01-Mar-2001 joe willson wrote:
 i have my laptop finally running fine but there are still a few things that's
 annoying me.  first off everyday i start up, debian keeps on reading my 
 harddrive, i do a top and see that the program find is using like 16% of my 
 cpu!  i think this is cause by cron loading up, so how can i turn this off.
 
 second thing is since i don't have suspend working plus i have to boot into 
 windows sometimes i have to boot linux a few times a day.  the problem is 
 fsck starts scanning the entire partition when it reaches max mount count
 so is it a good idea to turn this off? 
 

Hi, let's get you to a happier place (-:

a) apt-get install task-laptop
   this will give you most of the tools needed to have a happy laptop
   this includes APM support (power management), anacron, and a few other tools

b) join debian-laptop.  Just like debian-user, but only for laptop people

c) grab the laptop howto by Werner Heuser.  Great read and discusses Debian
   issues as well.

Re: ghost for linux?

also sprach Carel Fellinger (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:52:31PM +0100):
 Nah, dead simple:) using cdrecord/mkisofs/xcdroast from woody (sources)

sure thing, but what about files in /var? what's /? what's from boot
to prompt?

martin

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can i740 work in accelerate mode?[math]

2001-03-02 Thread maths

helloe everybody

my vedio card is i740, could display 800X600, 16bp (or higher, but i only use 
this mode). the color is beautiful but very slowly. i tty, i could see this 
message:

(**) SVGA: Chipset: i740
(**) Option noaccel

.
(**) (SVGA) Acceleration disabled

can i config it to work in acceleration mode?(and how).


maths
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Re: Mirroring only potato/woody but not sid?

2001-03-02 Thread Tibor D.


Lars Knudsen wrote:




Have you tried adding

sid/

to your exclude file ? I am mirroring the i386 part of the debian tree
in a single rsync run using a relatively long exclude file. This seems
perfectly possible on a 64k link.

Happy hacking,

\Gandalf


Hmm.. sorry, that won't help me, since the deb-packages are all mixed up 
in the .../pool/... directory, in the ../sid/.., there are only the 
Packages files. There isn't any tool that greps the Packages-files and 
defines, which files belong to which distro, and will only mirror these, 
is there?

What a pity.

Re: Getting rid of Vim's startup screen

2001-03-02 Thread Jonathan Gift

Glyn Millington wrote:
  
  set nocompatible
  
  which was stopping it. That removed and shm=I worked fine.
  
  A vi thing. I don't know why.
 
 Tread carefully, this isn't the only thing it effects!  
 

Thanks. I had it off before. I had actually just turned it on earlier in
the day so I'm used to having it off.

Jonathan

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Re: ghost for linux?

2001-03-02 Thread Known Human Nick Rusnov


Hmm, I would think the old 'tar' trick is safer than using dd (unless the disks 
are completly
identical):

Mount from disk and the to disk in under a booted linux, so like from/ and to/
then

(cd from; tar -cpf - .) | (cd ../to; tar -xpf -)

There are probably some arguments I'm forgetting to make sure that links and 
such go correctly and
permissions are maintained.

I suspect it wouldn't be that hard to make a rescue disk or a version of a one 
disk linux that would
automate this and or do it via a network, either by streaming tar over a socket 
somehow or using
NFS.

HTH
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hi ya...

i assume oyu have a second disk...

( make sure its the same sized disks to keep things simple )
dd if=/dev/hda  of=/dev/hdb

-- problem with ghost and dd is that it will also copy bad block info
   from the source to the 2nd disk...
   - disks now days are good enough that bad blocks is not an issue

if you do NOT have a 2nd disk...but have lots of disk space left over...

   ( make sure its the same sized partitions to keep things simple )
   dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hda11
   dd if=/dev/hda2 of=/dev/hda12

c ya
alvin

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Ankit Jain wrote:

 Is there ne open-source clone or equivalent of Norton Ghost ? I want to
 ghost my debian box before fiddlin around with it..
 
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Re: Printer not printing

2001-03-02 Thread Brian S Enyart

On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 12:44:22PM -0600, Keith G. Murphy wrote:
 
 Also, are you dual-booting?  I've found that Win95 bollixes up the
 printer, such that nothing but a hard reset (unplug/plug in) can get it
 working under Linux again.

As strange as it seems, none of the advice I was able to garner from
this list or from linuxprinting.org was more useful than this.  The
printer is now working.

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OT: How can I change my elm configs on a commercial webserver?

2001-03-02 Thread Jason Price

I have a site hosted on a commercial webserver running RH 6.2. I use 
elm (Elm 2.5 PL3, of January 11, 200) to read my mail during the day, 
but being as it's on a commercial webserver, my settings are incorrect. 
The biggest problem is the hostname. Because my domain name does not 
match the hostname of the box, all my mail is sent out from elm with 
the return address of jprice@hostname, rather than jprice@mydomain. 
In reading through some documentation, I can't seem to find a way to 
change this. Anyone know how to do this?

The other problem is that my name is not set. I tried creating 
a .elm/elmrc file and adding the fullname line, but that didn't seem 
to do the trick. So, how can I do this?

Someone had mentioned a config tool here, but that is not installed and 
I don't know if I could get it installed.  I'd like to do this via 
config files and such if possible...

Any help/input would be appreciated...

Re: Help geting hP jetdirect printer to work with Debian

2001-03-02 Thread Known Human Nick Rusnov

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]it was written:
I;m integrating a Debian testing machine inot a network with lot's of
FreeBSD machines, and some HP-UX, and Sun machines.

I'm having a hard time geting the Debian box to print to our networked
(JetDirect) printer. Can anyone give me a pointer to some docs.

Ahh, this is easy as pie.

JetDirect has a builtin lpr compatible server.

Install lprng package and configure your /etc/printcap like:

lp|HPLJ5p
 :lp=
 :rm=192.168.0.12
 :rp=lp
 :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote
 :mx#0
 :sh

Where you replace the value of rm= with the IP address of the printer.
(you can also replace the name of the printer with whatever you like).

Simply restart lprng (/etc/init.d/lprng restart), and then pipe some
postscript to lpr and wammo. ;)

JetDirect is quite nice, I'm very impressed by the quality of it.

as always,
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Re: libwine will not upgrade (unstable)

2001-03-02 Thread Francois Gouget

On 1 Mar 2001, Pollywog wrote:

 Did anyone else have trouble upgrading WINE today?
 libwine gives the following error on my machine:
 
 
 Preconfiguring packages ..
 /var/lib/debconf/config.175203: null: command not found
 libwine failed to configure, with exit code 127
 (Reading database ... E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited
 unexpectedly

   I forwarded your question to Ove and here's his answer:

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Ove Kaaven wrote:

 No. See my changelog; I moved the config out of libwine - there simply
 *is* no config control file in libwine anymore. It seems maybe apt have
 problems upgrading if config is removed from a package? Removing and
 reinstalling libwine might help, but the user should probably file a bug
 against apt.

   Did you try that and did it solve the problem?


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Newbie struggling with Windows rsync to make Debian install CD

2001-03-02 Thread Barry Tuber

I am trying to get a first time debian install going, and concluded I needed
a copy of the latest stable potato. I am using the pseudo image kit for
windows (from http://cdimage.debian.org/~costar/pseudo-image-kit/) to get
the stuff for the CD image, since the linux box is not connected to the
network yet. The download of the packages into the pseudo image went fine.
However, when I try to transform it to the official image, I cannot get
rsync to do anything other than give me a message: 

failed to connect to (whichever site I try) - The descriptor is a file, not
a socket

When I try to see a directory of the rsync server to see if I have the right
path, I get the same error. Can't find any documentation for the Windows
version that would help, or even tell me if it is a syntax problem or some
other kind.

The exact command I am using is as follows:

rsync --verbose --progress --stats --block-size=8192
saens.debian.org::debian-cd/2.2_rev2/i386/binary-i386-1.iso .   

which as far as I can tell is what the readme file says to do, substituting
a real site for the sample given. I have tried many variations on the site
name and path, all with the same result.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Barry
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Re: wall question

2001-03-02 Thread Bastian Bowe

Hi,

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:12:03AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 The problem is that everything is fine if I call pon from a regular
 Xterm, but no message appears if I call pon from a Gnome terminal...

Try to start your Gnome Terminal as a loginshell. I'm not sure if this
has got anything to do with your problem.

CU
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Re: USB Printer Setup

2001-03-02 Thread Bastian Bowe

Hello,

what happens if you send some peace of text directly (as root) to the device?
eg. $ echo This is a test  /dev/usb/lp0

Bye
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Re: Testing: xfree86 calamity

2001-03-02 Thread Martin WHEELER

On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Mircea Luca wrote:

 would guess
 that a dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq xpm4g will help here.

(It didn't, actually.)
But thanks for giving me the hint where to look -- I fixed all but one
dependency problem by copying all my archive .debs into /tmp, and doing
a: dpkg -i --force-conflicts ./*deb
on the lot of them together, and let them fight it out amongst
themselves.

This then left me with dependency problems with only one package --
xbase-clients -- which I *think* I've solved by a simultaneous forced
apt-get install of xbase-clients and xserver-xfree86.
(At least the install process didn't bitch about anything and exited
cleanly.)
Unfortunately, by this time I'd uninstalled most of my xfonts -- so
I'll let the list know if it worked when I've got them back in place.


 only dpkg --force-help will get you out of this.

Very true. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

msw
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RE: Help geting hP jetdirect printer to work with Debian

2001-03-02 Thread Lewis, James M.

 -Original Message-
 From: Known Human Nick Rusnov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:44 PM
 To: Stan Brown
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Help geting hP jetdirect printer to work with Debian 

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]it was written:
 I;m integrating a Debian testing machine inot a network 
 with lot's of
 FreeBSD machines, and some HP-UX, and Sun machines.

 I'm having a hard time geting the Debian box to print to our 
 networked
 (JetDirect) printer. Can anyone give me a pointer to some docs.

 Ahh, this is easy as pie.

 JetDirect has a builtin lpr compatible server.

 Install lprng package and configure your /etc/printcap like:

 lp|HPLJ5p
  :lp=
  :rm=192.168.0.12
  :rp=lp
  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/remote
  :mx#0
  :sh

 Where you replace the value of rm= with the IP address of the printer.
 (you can also replace the name of the printer with whatever you like).

 Simply restart lprng (/etc/init.d/lprng restart), and then pipe some
 postscript to lpr and wammo. ;)

 JetDirect is quite nice, I'm very impressed by the quality of it.

I like them too.  Instead of using lpd protocol, you can go direct using
a line like :lp=printername-or-ip%9100 and leave out the rm and rp
entries.  If you ever need a filter, you don't have to use the lpr_bounce
stuff.  This is with lprng only.  If you use a name instead of ip-addr, then
you have to put that into /etc/hosts or dns.  Ours all get put into dns so
it's easy to use names.  If one breaks, they replace it and fix up the dns
entry and everything works...

jim

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Re: Reconstructing Var?

2001-03-02 Thread Matthew Sackman

On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:35:23PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 07:29:21AM +, Matthew Sackman wrote:
   
   /usr/bin/yes make backups\!\!\!
  
  I'm a student = have no money for backup devices. Plus I'm still really
  pissed off that I bought a 10gig 7200 rpm seagate about 3 days before a big
  thread in here on how unreliable seagates are. Agh!
  
  Plus I have no IDE slots left so would have to buy a SCSI = very expensive.
  poo :-(
 
 well in this case you should split off your partitions, create
 seperate / /tmp /usr /var and /home partitions.  then backup /var (or
 just /var/lib/dpkg) to /home/backup/  *usually* filesystem corruption
 does not end up wrecking all your filesystems at the same time, so if
 only /var gets trashed (in this case) you still have a backup in
 /home/backup.  
 
 if the disk dies your screwed, but this method protects you from
 filesystem corruption fairly well.  

Well yes: currently I use eight partitions, including one /misc which I
can use for backups of non-really-big stuff:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df
Filesystem   1k-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb8  1542156326000   1216156  22% /
/dev/hdb515522  2674 12047  19% /boot
/dev/hdb7  1028092110340917752  11% /misc
/dev/hdb9  4883556   1128692   3754864  24% /usr
/dev/hdd5   10148529 96216   1% /tmp
/dev/hdd6   512012116200395812  23% /root
/dev/hdd7   717636486296231340  68% /var
/dev/hdd8  1552236993120559116  64% /home

When /var went down, I was able to tar and bzip2 up /home /etc /root
and drop them into a windows partition which meant that I lost no real
work - only work done on setting up debian was lost - no school work
or such like. Unfortunately, I did have to let go to my mp3 collection:
bzip2 couldn't handle a tar file that big!
But yes, I suppose the only precaution I can take is to back up the
very important stuff to /misc. I guess I really should write a script
to do that and then fire it off from cron every couple of days

Any ideas about an effective scipt to do this? Any recommended programs?

Matthew

PS: One other advantage of partitioning this heavily is that when I was
writing some web perl scripts a couple of months ago and made a recursive
error, /var rapidly filled as apache got screwed with firing out error
messages. But the machine didn't crash: I suspect things would have got
a lot nastier if I hadn't got /var on a seperate partition.

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Re: It's MY computer, not Bill's!

also sprach Robert Tucker (on Thu, 01 Mar 2001 10:14:44PM -0800):
 Ok... Now, what is vmware? And pvm? I see I have a lot of memorization to do. 
 I
 have two other computers (both 486's) and I plan to initially net them and 
 leave
 them W95. What is the general outline of using a Linux machine to run Windows
 games?

vmware allows you to run windoze on top of linux. or any operating
system as a matter of fact. and pvm is distributed processing, i
really just threw it in to emphasize that i don't see a place for
computer games in the life of any person who is enthusiastic about
linux.

martin

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mutt editor

2001-03-02 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini

Dear colleages of list,

how can I change the default editor of MUTT. I want to change it from vi to 
ee. I looked in the man pages and it seems that exist an enviroment variable 
EDITOR for this, but I cannot find it.
Ani help will be very welcome

Marcelo

Re: mutt editor

also sprach Marcelo Chiapparini (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 04:05:40PM -0300):
 how can I change the default editor of MUTT. I want to change it from vi to 
 ee. I looked in the man pages and it seems that exist an enviroment variable 
 EDITOR for this, but I cannot find it.
 Ani help will be very welcome

add the following line to ~/.bashrc (i am assuming you run bash):

export EDITOR=ee

martin

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Re: mutt editor

2001-03-02 Thread Peter Kovacs

Add this line to your .muttrc file:

set editor='ee'

Peter

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 04:05:40PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 Dear colleages of list,
 
 how can I change the default editor of MUTT. I want to change it from vi to 
 ee. I looked in the man pages and it seems that exist an enviroment variable 
 EDITOR for this, but I cannot find it.
 Ani help will be very welcome
 
 Marcelo
 
 
 
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Re: mutt editor

2001-03-02 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:11:14PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
 also sprach Marcelo Chiapparini (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 04:05:40PM -0300):
  how can I change the default editor of MUTT. I want to change it from vi to 
  ee. I looked in the man pages and it seems that exist an enviroment 
  variable 
  EDITOR for this, but I cannot find it.
  Ani help will be very welcome
 
 add the following line to ~/.bashrc (i am assuming you run bash):
 
 export EDITOR=ee
 

Martin,

it worked fine, thank you very much!

Marcelo

Re: mutt editor

2001-03-02 Thread Ben Collins

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 04:05:40PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
 Dear colleages of list,
 
 how can I change the default editor of MUTT. I want to change it from vi to 
 ee. I looked in the man pages and it seems that exist an enviroment variable 
 EDITOR for this, but I cannot find it.
 Ani help will be very welcome

In ~/.muttrc put

set editor=ee

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Re: mutt editor

2001-03-02 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:03:17PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 04:05:40PM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
  Dear colleages of list,
  
  how can I change the default editor of MUTT. I want to change it from vi to 
  ee. I looked in the man pages and it seems that exist an enviroment 
  variable 
  EDITOR for this, but I cannot find it.
  Ani help will be very welcome
 
 In ~/.muttrc put
 
 set editor=ee

Thank you, this option worked too. I will remain stick with this one...
Thanks again,

Marcelo

HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-02 Thread robhr

I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I
have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to it,
but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured and
running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in
the diagnostic info I can print out.  I probably need to reconfigure
it, but HP's tools don't detect it.  It appears to want to use ipx,
and I can see it sending stuff out on the network.  I figured it was a
dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it.  Anyone know how to
reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of things to try?  HP
has been less than helpful.  TIA.

Rob

Re: ghost for linux?

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 12:12:29PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
 also sprach Carel Fellinger (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:52:31PM +0100):
  Nah, dead simple:) using cdrecord/mkisofs/xcdroast from woody (sources)
 
 sure thing, but what about files in /var? what's /? what's from boot
 to prompt?

/var:  copy it to /tmp first? 
   or add rescue.bin and boot.catalog to /var?

/?:sorry but you lost me here.

from boot to prompt?: I must be stupid, but I/ve no idea what you're at.

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have you seen this driver?

2001-03-02 Thread D. Hoyem

I downloaded a driver for the Aureal Sound Card, to a
windows drive, from somewhere and I'll be  if I
can find it again.  When I tried to install it, it
complained about the added junk.. It was named
au88xx-kernel-source-1.1.2_i386.deb  has anyone
seen this driver??
  Also the Debian based Corel Linux says that it uses
the Creative Sound Blaster AWE64 does the potato
distro   have access to that?
TIA
Don

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Re: Mirroring only potato/woody but not sid?

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:22:03PM +0100, Tibor D. wrote:
...
 Hmm.. sorry, that won't help me, since the deb-packages are all mixed up 
 in the .../pool/... directory, in the ../sid/.., there are only the 
 Packages files. There isn't any tool that greps the Packages-files and 
 defines, which files belong to which distro, and will only mirror these, 
 is there?
 What a pity.

search for debmirror in debian.dev and/or
read the debian-cd pages very thoroughly

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What kernel module for Sound Max Digital Audio?

2001-03-02 Thread Kent West

I just got blessed with a Gateway E-3400 933MHz PIII box; sweet machine. 
I've recompiled a new 2.4.2 kernel and everything's working well except 
for sound and vmware (I'll worry about vmware later).


The only info I've found so far on the sound, which is integrated, is 
that it is Sound Max Digital Audio; Gateway's web site mentions that 
it's SB compatible, but that kernel module didn't work (perhaps IRQ, etc 
problem). Here's the results of lspci:


westek:~# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 1130 (rev 02)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 1131 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset PCI 
(rev 02)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset ISA 
Bridge (ICH2) (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset 
IDE U100 (rev 02)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset 
USB (Hub A) (rev 02)

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82820 820 (Camino 2) Chipset SMBus (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation: Unknown device 
2445 (rev 02)

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF
02:0f.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX [Fast Etherlink] 
(rev 78)


Anyone have any idea what I need to do to get my sound working? Thanks!

Kent

Re: mutt editor

also sprach Marcelo Chiapparini (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 04:29:11PM -0300):
 Thank you, this option worked too. I will remain stick with this one...

if you prefer ee over vi in general, then my approach will be the
better one. if you only want ee in mutt, use the .muttrc approach.

martin

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Re: ghost for linux?

also sprach Carel Fellinger (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:30:56PM +0100):
 /var:  copy it to /tmp first? 
or add rescue.bin and boot.catalog to /var?

thing is: the boot process needs scratch space. log files, utmp/wtmp,
pid files and all that jazz. these reside in /var, and a bootable
cdrom must initialize a ramdisk which it mounts as /var. this is not
always an easy process.

 /?:sorry but you lost me here.

the root partition. where will the root partition be? init won't
accept /dev/cdrom because that's a drive, not a partition.

 from boot to prompt?: I must be stupid, but I/ve no idea what you're at.

what happens between loading the boot image off the cdrom until you
logged in with the cdrom? where is stuff read from and where is it
written to?

martin 

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Re: ghost for linux?

2001-03-02 Thread Peter Jay Salzman

On Fri 02 Mar 01,  2:59 PM, MaD dUCK said: 
 also sprach Carel Fellinger (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:30:56PM +0100):
  /var:  copy it to /tmp first? 
 or add rescue.bin and boot.catalog to /var?
 
 thing is: the boot process needs scratch space.

true.  it's called initrd.   rd for ramdisk. 

 utmp/wtmp,

what does the kernel have to do with utmp and wtmp?   why would the kernel
care about who is logging into your system?

 pid files

like which ones?   we are talking about the boot process, right?

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heh.

pete


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X 4.0 Upgrade /etc/X11/X ?

2001-03-02 Thread Terry Hancock

Well, I needed a bunch of library packages from the
unstable (Woody) release, so I tried using apt-get
to do it, and it decided I needed to upgrade the X
packages as well.  So okay, I wanted 4.0 anyway, but
here's the problem (after eliminating some intervening
steps):

$ X  /tmp/x.out 21
X: Cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory),
aborting

(This test was recommended by the Xfree86 HOWTO -- the
same thing happens with startx, and xdm, while it
doesn't visibly complain, also doesn't work -- no
errors, but no visible effects either, after a few
minutes it shuts down again).

Indeed, there is no /etc/X11/X, but I don't know what
should be there.  Is it a symlink?  If so, to what?

I believe xf86config was run during the install
process, as I had to answer some questions about my
video card, mouse, and monitor. Of course, I was
previously using XF86Setup, so the interface has
changed visibly from what I was used to -- but it
appeared to be pretty much the same information.

Now, of course, I did not force all of packages to
upgrade to Woody, just the ones following the
dependencies I needed, but I think I have all the
new X packages despite the changes (but something
could've fallen through the cracks).

Please CC me -- I'm using a Yahoo mailer because my
usually mail system is down too.  Fortunately Lynx
still works! :D

Thanks!
Terry Hancock
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Re: X 4.0 Upgrade /etc/X11/X ?

2001-03-02 Thread Kent West


Terry Hancock wrote:


snip



Indeed, there is no /etc/X11/X, but I don't know what
should be there.  Is it a symlink?  If so, to what?



snip


Yes.
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   20 Mar  1 01:50 /etc/X11/X - 
/usr/bin/X11/XFree86

Re: X 4.0 Upgrade /etc/X11/X ?

2001-03-02 Thread Aaron Brashears

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 12:25:36PM -0800, Terry Hancock wrote:
 $ X  /tmp/x.out 21
 X: Cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory),
 aborting

 Indeed, there is no /etc/X11/X, but I don't know what
 should be there.  Is it a symlink?  If so, to what?


This file should be a symlink to your xserver. Under xfree86 4, it
should look like this:

X - /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86

If you're running xfree86 3, it will point to XF86_driver such as
XF86_SVGA for a generic video card.

Re: USB Printer Setup

2001-03-02 Thread Tom George


Bastian Bowe wrote:


Hello,

what happens if you send some peace of text directly (as root) to the device?
eg. $ echo This is a test  /dev/usb/lp0

Bye


Interesting.   I get a message No such device.

ram tests

so i got a couple of pc100 sdram dimms sitting 'round and i don't know
if they work. i have this linux box sitting here which i want to use
to test the things, but i don't know what software to use.

do you know of any hardcore ram test software for linux which will do
read and write tests on the ram of a machine?

thanks,
martin

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Re: X 4.0 Upgrade /etc/X11/X ?

2001-03-02 Thread Erik Steffl

Terry Hancock wrote:
 
 Well, I needed a bunch of library packages from the
 unstable (Woody) release, so I tried using apt-get
 to do it, and it decided I needed to upgrade the X
 packages as well.  So okay, I wanted 4.0 anyway, but
 here's the problem (after eliminating some intervening
 steps):
 
 $ X  /tmp/x.out 21
 X: Cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory),
 aborting
 
 (This test was recommended by the Xfree86 HOWTO -- the
 same thing happens with startx, and xdm, while it
 doesn't visibly complain, also doesn't work -- no
 errors, but no visible effects either, after a few
 minutes it shuts down again).
 
 Indeed, there is no /etc/X11/X, but I don't know what
 should be there.  Is it a symlink?  If so, to what?

  it's a symlink (see other posts), you might need to install
xserver-xfree86

erik

ram tests

http://reality.sgi.com/cbrady/memtest86

looks nice.

martin

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AGP Card SiS 6326

2001-03-02 Thread Marcelo Luiz de Laia


Hi,

Please, how do I can configure (set) my Video Card SiS 6326 8MB AGP Ver 2.2 
on my Debian? I don't run X on my card video!!!


Thanks Very Much!
Marcelo

Mocada, como faco para configurar minha placa de video SiS 6326 8MB AGP Ver 
2.2 no Debian para poder executar o X??


Muito obrigado.

Marcelo

Re: Garbage for Text

on Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 08:19:23PM -0500, Robert Mosher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 I just got XFree 3.3.6 running on Debian 2.1r2, unfortunately the text is
 unreadable. It appears as a whole bunch of vertical lines, or random
 blocks. It appears this way at every resolution. However when I bring
 up a menu the text is fine until I high-light it with my cursor. The text
 remains this way even after the menu is closed and reopened. Everything
 else appears fine.
 
 If you know of any solutions please let me know, thanks.

What fonts are you using?

'xlsfonts  fontlist' from a terminal window (even if you can't read
what's being printed) should then be accessible from a console.

I suspect you're getting a barcode or wingdings type font displayed.  Is
there a font selection menu in any of your applications?  Have you tried
setting a global X resource for fonts, say:

*font:fixed

...which should set a default, and possibly readable, font for all apps.

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Re: ghost for linux?

also sprach Peter Jay Salzman (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 12:14:36PM -0800):
 true.  it's called initrd.   rd for ramdisk. 
 
  utmp/wtmp,
 
 what does the kernel have to do with utmp and wtmp?   why would the kernel
 care about who is logging into your system?

okay, i see where you are coming from. from the initial discussion, i
thought someone wanted to create a cdrom that is bootable and the root
file system all at once. it is possible to do this, in fact, i run a
couple of firewalls that aren't anything but a mounted cdrom (or a r/o
floppy in some cases). but let me tell you this: making a cd bootable
given a harddisk with a valid root partition may be easy. creating a
rescue cd that is all in one and doesn't need a harddrive takes a
lot of time and many many cdr's!

martin

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might be very useful.
but now it is gone

Re: i18n and fonts

on Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 10:30:55PM -0500, Glenn Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 
 This is in the way of a partial followup to an earlier query of mine about
 locales and locale definitions ...
 
 I managed to change LC_ALL back to what I understand to be the default
 value, C ... 
 
 HOWEVER, I'm experiencing some weird substitutions in Netscape. Simple-ish
 international characters from languages like French and Spanish are being
 replaced by Chinese characters.
 
 A good example is the This page is also available in the following
 languages row at the bottom of the http://www.debian.org page. If C is
 understood to represent a Chinese character, what I see on my screen
 instead of Espanol is EspaCl ... and what I see instead of
 Francais is FranCis. 
 
 This even appears when I view source for the page. It seems that pairs of
 characters are being interpreted as Chinese, which makes sense when you
 realize that Asian character sets are double-byte. But why is this
 replacement happening, and how can I keep it from happening?
 
 Thanks in advance for any enlightenment. I will cross post on some of the
 i18n lists.
 
 Glenn Becker Online Producer, Community
 SCIFI.COM

What's the output of the following:

$ locale

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Re: AGP Card SiS 6326

2001-03-02 Thread Alexander Hvostov

Marcelo,

Do *not* crosspost this to irrelevant lists. You *will* get flamed (or
worse).

Regards,

Alex.

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On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Please, how do I can configure (set) my Video Card SiS 6326 8MB AGP Ver 2.2 
 on my Debian? I don't run X on my card video!!!
 
 Thanks Very Much!
 Marcelo
 
 Mocada, como faco para configurar minha placa de video SiS 6326 8MB AGP Ver 
 2.2 no Debian para poder executar o X??
 
 Muito obrigado.
 
 Marcelo
 
 
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Re: [PLUG] ram tests

2001-03-02 Thread Michael Leone

- Original Message -
From: MaD dUCK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian users debian-user@lists.debian.org; plug
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 3:37 PM
Subject: [PLUG] ram tests

 so i got a couple of pc100 sdram dimms sitting 'round and i don't know
 if they work. i have this linux box sitting here which i want to use
 to test the things, but i don't know what software to use.

 do you know of any hardcore ram test software for linux which will do
 read and write tests on the ram of a machine?

There is memtest86. You might do better to bring them to a local computer
shop, and ask them to leave it in their RAM tester overnight. I know PCM, on
Walnut St. in Philadelphia, will do this for you.

Re: [PLUG] ram tests

also sprach Michael Leone (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 04:00:38PM -0500):
 There is memtest86. You might do better to bring them to a local computer
 shop, and ask them to leave it in their RAM tester overnight. I know PCM, on
 Walnut St. in Philadelphia, will do this for you.

found memtest86. i think it'll do. college students don't have time to
seek out professionals ;

martin

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Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-03-02 Thread Felix E. Klee

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stan Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I'd highly recommend against using the Helix packages. I've found
that they have conflicts with other packages on a recurring basis.

I have installed them on three computers with different configurations
and had no problems so far. Of course I removed most Debian Gnome
packages before installing Ximian. I even might try downloading the 1.4
test release next sunday.


   Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work
   using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment.

You can download the packages with wget and add a line pointing
to their location on your harddisk to sources.list (that's what I did).

Felix

How can I get top to show both cpus?

2001-03-02 Thread Jason Price

I am running a dual cpu box and would like to get top to display the 
load on each cpu seperately.  When I briefly had Mandrake 7.2 
installed, top showed each cpu individually, so it obviously can be 
done.  How can I configure it to do so?

Re: Problems with mail local to Debian machine

on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 10:27:38AM -0500, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I have set up a stable machine that I plan on using for, among other
 things, and Amanda tapehost.
 
 Amanada mails you a report after every run. Problem is, I'm not getting
 that report. Further if I fire up elm and send mail to the amanda user, it
 just disapears!
 
 I suspect I have a problem with the llocal mail configuration. How can I
 check this out, and correct it?

What's your local mail transport utility?  Debian uses exim by default.
To re-run the configuration utility, run as root:

$ /usr/sbin/eximconfig

...you'll be walked through a set of menus asking how you want to
configure your mail subsystem.

You can also check to see if mail *has* been getting stashed someplace
by looking under /var/spool/exim/*.  You may have been generating
outbound messages which aren't being delivered.

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Re: AGP Card SiS 6326

2001-03-02 Thread Marcelo Luiz de Laia


Sorry!!

This went my first e-mail to the lists.

I was trying to solve my problem quickly.

Do you have a suggestion of which lists to participate?

Or do you suggest that I don't send messages using vary lists at the same 
time? Is this?


Marcelo



At 13:24 02/03/01 -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote:

Marcelo,

Do *not* crosspost this to irrelevant lists. You *will* get flamed (or
worse).

Regards,

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On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote:

 Hi,

 Please, how do I can configure (set) my Video Card SiS 6326 8MB AGP Ver 
2.2

 on my Debian? I don't run X on my card video!!!

 Thanks Very Much!
 Marcelo

 Mocada, como faco para configurar minha placa de video SiS 6326 8MB AGP 
Ver

 2.2 no Debian para poder executar o X??

 Muito obrigado.

 Marcelo


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Re: Getting Helix-Gnome

2001-03-02 Thread Pollywog


  
  Is there an ftp equivalent? I am having trouble getting apt-get to work
  using http, and am limited to using the ftp method at teh moment.
  
  You can download the packages with wget and add a line pointing
  to their location on your harddisk to sources.list (that's what I did).

Is the original poster aware that the name has been changed from
helix to ximian?
Change helixgnome.com to ximian.com in your apt sources list and it
should work.

--
Andrew

Re: Setting Up Partitions

on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:09:56AM -0800, Ian Thomas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I have a copy of Debian 2.1 Slink that I am trying
 to install to a second harddrive.
 
 I just recently found out on a website that cfdisk
 cannot create extended partitions.  I attempted to do
 this when I was installing by changing the partition
 type to extended, but when it wrote the table it still
 had them listed as linux native.  This is what I want
 to do..
 
 hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition)
 hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition)
 hdb3 (extended partition containing logical slices)
 hdb5 / 
 hdb6 /var 
 hdb7 /tmp
 hdb8 /home
 hdb9 /usr 
 
 My swap space will go on my third drive.  I
 thought about just doing Alt-Ctrl-F2 to get a prompt,
 run fdisk and create the partition table that way,
 then continue with the curses based install.  Is that
 correct?  Also I have read that linux cannot boot from
 an extended partition, is this true?  If not I can put
 all of the slices in one exteneded partition.  If I am
 using the wrong terminology it is because I have only
 really used BSD's and am used to disklabel.

There are several HOWTOs addressing partitioning issues, including some
thoughts on arranging partitions across one or more disks for optimal
performance (unless you're doing high-end processing you'll likely not
notice).

I've compiled my own notes at

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html

...regarding suggested sizes.

Your thoughts on switching to a shell during the install process and
creating your partitions is a good method.  I believe recent Debian
installs also provide the option to run a partitioning utility during
the installation process.

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Re: Napster Block Ipchains Debian 2.2

2001-03-02 Thread Mike Dresser

 Well, my method wasn't perfect, but it would probably get the napster
 traffic down 75% (depending on the knowledge of the userbase in
 question).

Never underestimate the power of free music =)


 I don't think you can get around the opennap problem, since you wouldn't
 know where it is located.

 How would the proxy servers work?  Wouldn't the user have to set
 it up outside the firewall somewhere?


More likely, find an open one out there.  It's not too terribly difficult to 
find
someone's misconfigured proxy, and use that. Sure, you're likely going to limit 
your
bandwidth since their proxy might not be as fast as your connection, but it's 
better
than cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp =)

Mike Dresser

RE: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-02 Thread Lewis, James M.


 
 I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I
 have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to it,
 but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured and
 running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in
 the diagnostic info I can print out.  I probably need to reconfigure
 it, but HP's tools don't detect it.  It appears to want to use ipx,
 and I can see it sending stuff out on the network.  I figured it was a
 dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it.  Anyone know how to
 reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of things to try?  HP
 has been less than helpful.  TIA.
 
 Rob
 
If you can configure it to talk tcp you have a chance.  I think some of
those things would only talk ipx or appletalk.  Try to configure it from
the front panel of the printer.  (maybe io menu or mio 1 or mio 2 menu?)
I have done this with a slightly newer printer but it should work with
the lj3.  Ummm... I guess I need to ask is it an internal card or
external box with a parallel cable?  The internal card can usually be
configured from the printer front panel.  If it is an external box, you
have to do a special power up reset that clears it.  Then use arp to
set up the mac addr to an ip addr and telnet to it.

Assuming you can get into it to make it talk tcp...  Here is a printcap
entry that works for me (lprng):

tnp077|Accounting lj3(pcl)
  :lp=tnp077%2501
  :sd=/var/spool/lpd/tnp077
  :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter
  :mx#0
:sf
:sh

You will have to change the %2501 to %9100.  Put the ip-addr of the
jetdirect
or a name that is in /etc/hosts or dns in place of tnp077.  Alter the
spool
directory entry accordingly.  Install magicfilter.  You can let it make
the printcap and edit it or just do it by hand to start with.
Use ljet4l-filter.  It works better for me than the lj3 filter.  If you
have problems with it, drop back and use ljet3-filter.

hope you have one that speaks tcp...

hth
jim

 
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Re: AGP Card SiS 6326

2001-03-02 Thread Willi Dyck

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 05:53:42PM -0300, Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Please, how do I can configure (set) my Video Card SiS 6326 8MB AGP Ver 2.2 
 on my Debian? I don't run X on my card video!!!
What kind of problem do you have?
I had the same video card and didn't have problems with it
as long as I didn't run X.
If you are working at the console only, then you shouldn't
have to configure this card. It just works.

 
 Thanks Very Much!
 Marcelo
 
 Mocada, como faco para configurar minha placa de video SiS 6326 8MB AGP Ver 
 2.2 no Debian para poder executar o X??
 
 Muito obrigado.
 
 Marcelo
 
 
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Re: waiting for x server to begin...

on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 03:33:35PM -0800, michael young ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 recently installed xfree86-4. now when I try to
 start x I get:
 
 waiting for X server to begin accepting connections
 
 ..
 ...
 .
 
 and so on...What else do I need to do?

Check your networking configuration -- does your host resolve?  X is a
_networked_ windowing system, and requires properly configured
networking in order to operate.  This doesn't mean you need a network
card; it _does_ mean you need your hostname resolving to where it is --
even if it's just 127.0.0.1 (loopback device).

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Re: Printer recommendations

on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:26:36PM -0500, Alec Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I'm faced with recommending a new printer for my parents as their old unit
 is starting to show its age. The goal is to find something for $350 or
 less which is Linux friendly since I'll also be using it. The printer will
 be connected to the LAN through an old HP JetDirect EX. Right now we're
 looking more towards a laser but I'd also be interested in inkjet
 recommendations as well.
 
 I had in mind to recommend the Lexmark Optra E312L as Egghead is offering
 it for $300. There is a straight E312 model which offers PostScript
 emulation, however its roughly $370 which may prove to be slightly over
 budget. Does anyone have experience with the E312L?
 
 As far as inkjets go, I generally like HPs. However, after finding out
 that a DeskJet 895Cse doesn't always work properly I'm not sure which are
 safe bets. I'm not looking for the ultra-cheap models as there's plenty of
 money to pay for a higher end model.

My recommendation is for a laserjet.  Inkjets are slow, expensive to
run, and tend to be maintenance-happy.

I just purchased a used HPLJ4m for about $380.  The footprint's about
twice what the HPDJ6xxC was, but it prints about ten times faster,
literally, native postscript.  If you have the space, an HPLJIIIx is
even less expensive, though I suspect you'll make up the difference on
power bills if it's on all the time.  Ideal would be to rig up something
to power on the printer automajikally when needed.  More modern LJs have
a built-in powersave option, the IIIs and 4s I looked at did not.

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Re: potato and kernel 2.4


This is more appropriate on debian-user, redirected.  BTW, it's a FAQ,
look in the archives:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0102/msg02154.html

Just out of curiosity, what prompted you to use -project to ask?  There
has been a rash of -user type questions on -project as of late, and I'm
wondering if there's some resource directing people to -project for user
questions.

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Justin Hibbits wrote:

Hello,

Is Debian Potato kernel 2.4 ready?  What updates do I need to make to
upgrade to 2.4?

Justin Hibbits


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Re: Help geting hP jetdirect printer to work with Debian

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Stan Brown wrote:

I;m integrating a Debian testing machine inot a network with lot's of
FreeBSD machines, and some HP-UX, and Sun machines.

I'm having a hard time geting the Debian box to print to our networked
(JetDirect) printer. Can anyone give me a pointer to some docs.

http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO/network.html#NETWORKED-PRINTER

It uses a JetDirect as its example...



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Re: Eek! X won't go away!

on Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 04:55:51PM -0500, MaD dUCK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 also sprach Glenn Becker (on Tue, 27 Feb 2001 04:14:48PM -0500):
  I don't really know what the purpose of xdm is. There are packages to
  'prettify' it, but I just object to the whole thing. :-)
 
 well, do consider a console login and a 'startx', xlock running and
 you out on lunch break, while i come into your office, hit
 ctrl-alt-del, and scp all your confidential docs to me so that i can
 then exploit all this knowledge... sure you'd find out, but then it's
 too late.
 
 so if you dislike xdm, at least set NoZap in XF86Config!

Um.  How about:

$ startx args; exit

...from console.  I've even written a bash function to do this sanely
from my laptop, posted here recently.

Yes, launching X from a console w/o securing (or exiting) the console
session is a security hole.  However, securing or exiting the console
session is trivial.

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Re: is there a way to probe a sound card's settings to see if it broken


cat /dev/sndstat

would be the first thing I tried.  Today seems to be my day to refer to
howtos...:)

http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO.html

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Walter Tautz wrote:

I have recently suffered a mysterious failure in my sound
card that was working perfectly (es1371) and the modules
are still being loaded and I am in the audio group and
the permissions are writable etc and YET the damn thing
does not work...I should point out i am doing this with
a head set and not a amplified speaker system. mpeg123 claims
it is playing the files. I did test the headset on my radio..and
they work. Maybe pulling the sound card out and putting it in
again (possibly into another slot would work)...


ARe there any tools that can probe the card to see whether certain
settings have somehow been turned off??? How does a sound card actually
work...

-walter

ps. Annoyed that sound doesn't work Any references would be
appreciated.




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Themes don't install on gnome/potato

2001-03-02 Thread hanasaki

I downloaded a theme from and used control center to install it.  The
theme seems to be in ~/.themes but is not available under themeselector.

correct files

2001-03-02 Thread Robert Tucker

Ok... I admit it. I seem to be a simpleton. I've been through the dirs
and read all the docs and instructions and I've looked at all the files,
etc. and I'm still not sure which files I use to create the disks I need
to put Debian on my machine. I want to do as little disk generation as
possable (if possable) and install from the Debian site. Anyone want to
take pity on me and name that file?

Robert

Re: Eek! X won't go away!

also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 02:28:39PM -0800):
 $ startx args; exit

... which you can probably suspend... even more dangerous because now
the user doesn't even notice that the system has been accessed over
lunch. i think you can suspend. i am not sure.

martin

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apt-get breakage

2001-03-02 Thread Chris Brown

AAA!  apt-get dist-upgrade hosed my system yesterday!

Well, hosed is a bit rough... everything works but it seems 'su' is 
busted.  It says:
su: Unrecognized Linux-PAM error
Sorry.

I've tried reinstalling all packages related to login, libpam, libpam-
modules, etc.  I've tried pwconv'ing and pwuconv'ing.  No dice.  I 
was very surprised to see this, since a) I'm running stable, and b) 
I've been using apt-get for a few weeks to keep this system current. 
 Anyone have any advice as to how to fix this?

Thanks,
C Brown



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Re: Switching between two file systems.

on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:03:02PM -0500, Fu-Dong Chiou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a problem.  I have RedHat on /dev/hd1, and Debian on /dev/hd5 (that I 
 just transferred from another HD).  The problem is, when I boot into Debian, 
 the system.map of RedHat is still being used, and I got a lot of warning 
 messages.  Is there a way that I get around this problem?  Thanks!

Post your /etc/lilo.conf file, and possibly, your disk partitioning
scheme.

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Re: Napster Block Ipchains Debian 2.2


I'm thinking you could use a snort ruleset to do the trick...

They have a policy ruleset that covers it at

http://www.snort.org/Files/03012001/policy.rules

Looks like about a dozen or so rules for napster, and another half dozen
or so gnutella


On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Martin Marconcini wrote:

Hello:

   My firewall is using Debian and my damn boss asked me to block napster.

   i have eth0 internal and eth1 external.
   eth0 = 10.0.0.0/255.255.0.0
   eth1 = x.x.x.x

   I can't find a damn way to do it.

   ipchains -A input -j DENY -p tcp -s 0/0 -d 0/0  -l   Will not 
 work!
:(

   Thanks!

   Martin.





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startx not starting X and mouse wheel not wheeling

2001-03-02 Thread Charles Lewis

I had X (XFree86 4.0.2)working fine until I started trying to get my
IntelliMouse wheel to work. I even tried running xf86config again. When I
startx it attempts to load but fails with no error messages. The last few
lines after it attempts:

...
(**) Mouse1: Protocol: IMPS/2
(**) Mouse1: Core Pointer
(==) Mouse1: Buttons: 3
(II) Keyboard Keyboard1 handled by legacy driver
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse1 9type: MOUSE)
#

And that's it no errors but no X either.

Incidentally, how do you get the (IntelliMouse) wheel to work? (mouse is
currently working under gpm)

In gpm.conf I have:
  device=/dev/psaux
  responsiveness=
  repeat_type=
  type=imps2
  append=
  sample_rate=

In the mouse section of XF86Config-4 I have:
  Identifier Mouse1
  Driver mouse
  Option Protocol  IMPS/2
  Option Device/dev/gpmdata
  
Before I ran xf86config, I had added the lines:
  Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
  Option Buttons  5

And I may have been using the IntelliMouse protocol as well. I can't
remember, I tried too many things. What should it be?

Inquiring minds wish there was an XFree86 4 HOW-TO for debian.

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Re: Lost linux partition

on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 12:12:11AM +0800, #KUNDAN KUMAR# ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 I boot from boot floppy only, no lilo... and the boot floppy stratightaway
 loads the kernel without any lilo prompt.. and then gets stuck at Kernel
 Panic: No root file system.
 I do have debian rescue disk under the c: and I try to boot from there I
 get a consolebut running lilo has no meaning here
 I am afraid its lost for ever... does NAV back up the partition table before
 repairing?
 Kundan

You probably have to reconstruct your partition table(s) from hand.

This is why I make a practice of printing my partition tables and
placing them in a prominant location within my (hardcopy) system
logbook.

I'll also occasionally post them online, frequently in the guise of a
partitioning howto g.

Yes, I've had to reconstruct my own partition tables from hand.

And, if you haven't taken this preperatory step, you'll find proceeding
to be somewhat more difficult.

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Re: Newbie struggling with Windows rsync to make Debian install CD

2001-03-02 Thread mike polniak

 The exact command I am using is as follows:
 
 rsync --verbose --progress --stats --block-size=8192
 saens.debian.org::debian-cd/2.2_rev2/i386/binary-i386-1.iso . 
 
 which as far as I can tell is what the readme file says to do, substituting
 a real site for the sample given. I have tried many variations on the site
 name and path, all with the same result.

I could'nt get this to work untill i removed block-size.


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Re: pppd wanted

2001-03-02 Thread Adrian Bunk

On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Sebastiaan wrote:

 Hi,
 I am trying to set up a network connection between two computers which are
 connected with a serial cable (null modem).
 One computer is an i386 with 2.4.0, the other is an Macintosh Quadra 610
 ^^^
 with 2.2.10, both running stable.
   ^^^
...
 Am I forgetting something?

You need to upgrade the ppp package on your i386 to run kernel 2.4.x . See
[1] for more information.

 Thanks in advance,
 Sebastiaan

cu
Adrian

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Re: correct files

2001-03-02 Thread ktb

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:34:20AM -0800, Robert Tucker wrote:
 Ok... I admit it. I seem to be a simpleton. I've been through the dirs
 and read all the docs and instructions and I've looked at all the files,
 etc. and I'm still not sure which files I use to create the disks I need
 to put Debian on my machine. I want to do as little disk generation as
 possable (if possable) and install from the Debian site. Anyone want to
 take pity on me and name that file?
 

Assuming i386 and your going to do an install off the Internet -
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/

Snag, at minimum -
rescue.bin
root.bin

Read this section again -
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html
hth,
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Re: Switching between two file systems.

2001-03-02 Thread Fu-Dong Chiou

Sorry, I should have done that.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~#more /etc/lilo.conf 
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=30
message=/boot/message
linear
default=RedHat7

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-22
label=RedHat7
read-only
root=/dev/hda1

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=Debian
read-only
root=/dev/hda5

Disk /dev/hda: 240 heads, 63 sectors, 662 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 bytes

   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   * 1   271   2048728+  83  Linux
/dev/hda2   272   661   29484005  Extended
/dev/hda5   *   272   542   2048728+  83  Linux
/dev/hda6   543   650816448+  83  Linux
/dev/hda7   651   661 83128+  82  Linux swap


Chip

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 
 on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 12:03:02PM -0500, Fu-Dong Chiou ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
 edu) wrote:
  Hi,
 =20
  I have a problem.  I have RedHat on /dev/hd1, and Debian on /dev/hd5 (tha=
 t I=20
  just transferred from another HD).  The problem is, when I boot into Debi=
 an,=20
  the system.map of RedHat is still being used, and I got a lot of warning=
 =20
  messages.  Is there a way that I get around this problem?  Thanks!
 
 Post your /etc/lilo.conf file, and possibly, your disk partitioning
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Re: Mirroring only potato/woody but not sid?

2001-03-02 Thread csj

On Saturday 03 March 2001 01:22, Tibor D. wrote:
Lars Knudsen wrote:
Have you tried adding

sid/

to your exclude file ? I am mirroring the i386 part of the debian
tree in a single rsync run using a relatively long exclude file.
This seems perfectly possible on a 64k link.

Happy hacking,

\Gandalf

Hmm.. sorry, that won't help me, since the deb-packages are all
mixed up in the .../pool/... directory, in the ../sid/.., there are
only the Packages files. There isn't any tool that greps the
Packages-files and defines, which files belong to which distro, and
will only mirror these, is there?
What a pity.

Sorry I didn't catch the start of the thread. But just one curious
question. Why do you need to mirror the entire i386 directory? Why
not just download the files you need to install?

My bogus mirror, for instance, contains only .debs which are
installed or have been installed (some purged) in my system. The
basic trick is to setup the Packages file internally such that
apt-get points to a local file.

Stage one then would be to sync your internal Packages files with
those in http.us.debian.org (or whatever site you apt from).

Stage two would be to apt-get. You then get the following output.
Note that the .deb in question is not found. You then download the
file mentioned in the error message, after passing it through a text
processor or editor.

Not quite automatic as a simple rsync. But it works for me.

debian:/mirror# apt-get install icewm-gnome
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
icewm-gnome
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 0B/319kB of archives. After unpacking 1018kB will be used.
Err file: woody/main icewm-gnome 1.0.1-1
File not found
Failed to fetch
file:/mirror/http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386/x11/icewm-gnome_1.0.1-1.deb
File not found
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe try with --fix-missing?

Re: startx not starting X and mouse wheel not wheeling

2001-03-02 Thread Simon Hepburn

I don't have an intellimouse so this is an educated guess  :-)

I think you may have a conflict between X and gpm. Try disabling gpm and 
setting your device to /dev/psaux in XF86Config-4:

Option Device/dev/psaux

Good luck, Simon.

On Saturday 03 March 2001  1:07 am, Charles Lewis wrote:
 I had X (XFree86 4.0.2)working fine until I started trying to get my
 IntelliMouse wheel to work. I even tried running xf86config again. When I
 startx it attempts to load but fails with no error messages. The last few
 lines after it attempts:

 ...
 (**) Mouse1: Protocol: IMPS/2
 (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer
 (==) Mouse1: Buttons: 3
 (II) Keyboard Keyboard1 handled by legacy driver
 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse1 9type: MOUSE)
 #

 And that's it no errors but no X either.

 Incidentally, how do you get the (IntelliMouse) wheel to work? (mouse is
 currently working under gpm)

 In gpm.conf I have:
   device=/dev/psaux
   responsiveness=
   repeat_type=
   type=imps2
   append=
   sample_rate=

 In the mouse section of XF86Config-4 I have:
   Identifier Mouse1
   Driver mouse
   Option Protocol  IMPS/2
   Option Device/dev/gpmdata

 Before I ran xf86config, I had added the lines:
   Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
   Option Buttons  5

 And I may have been using the IntelliMouse protocol as well. I can't
 remember, I tried too many things. What should it be?

 Inquiring minds wish there was an XFree86 4 HOW-TO for debian.

Re: debian command list

on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 08:40:19AM -0800, Mike Egglestone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi all...
 I'm looking for a web site that would have 
 a nice list and basic description of debian commands.
 Anyone know of such a place?
 
 or even just linux commands for that matter...

O'Reilly's _Linux in a Nutshell_ provides pretty much just this,
alphabetically oriented.  Not a whole mess of use for learning, but good
as a quick reference.

For putting the bits together, _UNIX Power Tools_, also by O'Reilly.

See also:  http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/linux-books.html

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Laptops: QLITech aquires TuxTops line (was Re: GPS)

on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 02:41:29PM -0500, Glenn Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 
 Even more, does anyone on list know of a good source for 'Linux laptops'
 now that both linuxlaptops.com and tuxtops.com seem to have suspended
 production?
 
 Glenn Becker
 Online Producer, Community
 SCIFI.COM

As per subject, QLITech has aquired TuxTops line of laptops, most (all?)
of which are Compal OEMed.  I've been using the TT Amethyst 20U for the
past six weeks, liking it markedly.

Info:  http://www.qlitech.net/

Note:  no affiliation, just a TuxTops customer.

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Re: Reconstructing Var?

2001-03-02 Thread Ethan Benson

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:52:17PM +, Matthew Sackman wrote:
 
 When /var went down, I was able to tar and bzip2 up /home /etc /root
 and drop them into a windows partition which meant that I lost no real

why did you do that? if you have seperate partitions there is no need
to back them up, just don't initialize them in the debian installer.
mount them instead.  

debian does not blindly erase every partition, it lets you choose what
to mkfs and what to just mount.  

-- 
Ethan Benson
http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/


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Re: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux

2001-03-02 Thread Rob Rati

Lewis, James M. wrote:
 
 
  I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I
  have purchaed used.  I have to use the parallel port to print to it,
  but would like to use the network card instead.  It was configured and
  running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in
  the diagnostic info I can print out.  I probably need to reconfigure
  it, but HP's tools don't detect it.  It appears to want to use ipx,
  and I can see it sending stuff out on the network.  I figured it was a
  dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it.  Anyone know how to
  reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of things to try?  HP
  has been less than helpful.  TIA.
 
  Rob
 
 If you can configure it to talk tcp you have a chance.  I think some of
 those things would only talk ipx or appletalk.  Try to configure it from
 the front panel of the printer.  (maybe io menu or mio 1 or mio 2 menu?)
 I have done this with a slightly newer printer but it should work with
 the lj3.  Ummm... I guess I need to ask is it an internal card or
 external box with a parallel cable?  The internal card can usually be
 configured from the printer front panel.  If it is an external box, you
 have to do a special power up reset that clears it.  Then use arp to
 set up the mac addr to an ip addr and telnet to it.
 
 Assuming you can get into it to make it talk tcp...  Here is a printcap
 entry that works for me (lprng):
 
 tnp077|Accounting lj3(pcl)
   :lp=tnp077%2501
   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/tnp077
   :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter
   :mx#0
 :sf
 :sh
 
 You will have to change the %2501 to %9100.  Put the ip-addr of the
 jetdirect
 or a name that is in /etc/hosts or dns in place of tnp077.  Alter the
 spool
 directory entry accordingly.  Install magicfilter.  You can let it make
 the printcap and edit it or just do it by hand to start with.
 Use ljet4l-filter.  It works better for me than the lj3 filter.  If you
 have problems with it, drop back and use ljet3-filter.
 
 hope you have one that speaks tcp...

I don't know if it can talk TCP or not.  It's an internal card, and I
can set which io port to use from the panel menu (Parallel, Serial,
optional), but I haven't found out how to get to any kind of
configuration menu for the card.  I don't have any manuals for the card,
but I do have one for the printer.  Do you know how to get to more
configuration options besides holding down the menu button for 5
seconds?  That's how I get to configure which IO device to use.

Rob

Re: Question re. AbiWord

on Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:36:13PM -0800, Ross Boylan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Is there a way to give root (or anyone else) permission so this error
 doesn't come up?  I login to a non-root account (gdm), but sometimes I
 open a terminal as root and want to run a graphical application.  I
 always get the error message that kicked this thread off.

Don't run apps as root.

If you need to run a graphical admin utility (say, printtool), man xauth
and/or search for my prior posts on the subject here.

-- 
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/
 What part of Gestalt don't you understand?   There is no K5 cabal
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Re: Eek! X won't go away!

2001-03-02 Thread Erik Steffl

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
...
  so if you dislike xdm, at least set NoZap in XF86Config!
 
 Um.  How about:
 
 $ startx args; exit

  I think better option is to use nohup and actually exit. that way you
are sure. or use virtual console lock:-) if such a beast exists.

erik

Re: Rebooting is foolish ....

on Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:27:55AM -0800, Nate Amsden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 SamBozo Debian User wrote:
  
  Hello to the group,
  Recently there were comments made as to the foolishness of
  rebooting just to reset an edited config file. How about a list of
  the cli entrys
 
 try avoid rebooting whenever possible. i had a bad experience with
 rebooting not too long ago. a sun ultra 10..up for about 130
 days..shut it down to move a UPS, it never came back up. spent the
 next 15-20 hours rebuilding it.

This isn't a fault of rebooting, it's a latent hardware issue that was
exposed by rebooting.

While uptimes are great, there's no need to senselessly pursue uptime
records.  PGE locally pretty much assures I can't, even with a UPS.

Running through a boot sequence after major system reconfigurations, or
just on a periodic or scheduled basis can be _very_ good practice -- it
allows you to identify issues at a time you're prepared to deal with
them, rather than when the problem finds it convenient (and you, most
assuredly, will not).

GNU/Linux provides the luxury of letting you choose your own reboot
frequency, and on a stable, unmodified box, uptimes of months or years
are possible.

One of my favorite anecdotes along this line:  after one phone switch
failure -- not sure if it was the Chicago area fire, or the rolling
failure that hit in the late 1980s or early 90s, ATT was faced with the
prospect of having to restart a system _that had never been shut down
since it went operational_.  The switch had been upgraded -- SW _and_ HW
-- in place, over the years.

Provide service guarantees through redundancy, not through pushing HW
past its limits.

-- 
Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/
 What part of Gestalt don't you understand?   There is no K5 cabal
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Re: Latest Lyx for 'Potato'?

2001-03-02 Thread Kenward Vaughan

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:39:59AM +0200, Hannu Virtanen wrote:
 Does anyone know, if there is available any debian ('stable, 'potato') 
 package of the latest version (1.1.6fix1-1) of Lyx?
...

Not that I am aware of... I DL'd that version from www.lyx.org and compiled
it myself, getting it installed in /usr/local.

Seems to work well.  Don't know why it hasn't been updated for Debian.  Be
aware that there are changes to the configuration files.

I'm running Sid.

Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein

Error message from dpkg

2001-03-02 Thread Poe-Min Oliver Wu


This is the message thrown back when I run apt-get:
==
(Reading database ... dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/apache-doc_1.3.9-13.2_all.deb (--unpack):
 files list file for package `doc-linux-zh' contains empty filename
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-doc_1.3.9-13.2_all.deb
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
==

And this happens for everything that works through dpkg. 
It seems to be a broken file since the power down
not long ago, but I still can't find a way to fix it.
Any suggestion?  Thanks.

pm5

error with python/sgmltools in sid

2001-03-02 Thread Kenward Vaughan

I'm running Lyx 1.1.16fix1, using sgmltools under the DocBook class to
translate my sgml class document to other formats.  Regardless of what I do
to view or export the text, I get an error stating:

File /usr/lib/sgml/misc/sgmltools/python/utils.py, 
 line 250, in _searchInCat

(I put in the return to keep things within normal column limits.)  

Does anyone know what the problem is with this?  Is there more information I
could provide to help?

Kenward
-- 
It is not so very important for a person to learn facts.  For that he
doesn't really need a college education, for he can learn them from
books.  The value of an education in a liberal arts college is not the
learning of many facts but the training of the mind to thinking--something
that cannot be learned from books. Albert Einstein

Re: correct files

also sprach ktb (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:42:20PM -0600):
 Snag, at minimum -
 rescue.bin
 root.bin

... except the last time that i tried root.bin from like 5 different
locations, dd'ing and loop mounting it several times, it never turned
out to be a valid filesystem and i could never use it. maybe this is
fixed by now. i'd be interested to know.

martin

[greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@@@.net
-- 
i'd rather be riding a high speed tractor
with a beer on my lap,
and a six pack of girls next to me.

an awful mutt thing just happened

2001-03-02 Thread Peter Jay Salzman

dear all,

you know how you hit c to open other mailboxes and it says:

   Open mailbox ('?' for list):

well, i can no longer use '?' to see the list of mailboxes.  it does
nothing; it simply drops me back to the main mailbox index.

the only thing i can think of is that i *just* updated woody using apt-get.
i don't know if mutt was one of the packages that got updated.

does some kind soul have any ideas what might be going on?

now that i can't access my mailboxes, can you cc this account with a reply?
debian-user goes to a folder (via procmail), and the only way i have to read
my debian mail is by using vi on the mailbox it gets sent to.


a second wierd mutt thing.  as root, when i run mutt, it says:

   /var/spool/mail/root: Permission denied (errno = 13)

even though

   # ll /var/spool/mail/root
   -rw-rw1 root mail  0 Oct 20 08:05 /var/spool/mail/root

this *just* happened at the same time the other mutt problem began, just a
few minutes ago after running apt-get.   any ideas about this problem?

mail problems suck.  any help would be GREATLY appreciated.

thanks!
pete


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[OT] OpenGL Experiance

2001-03-02 Thread Christopher W. Aiken

Anyone have OpenGL experience?  I'm porting my companies
engineering software from HP/IBM/SGI UNIX systems to Linux.
Our graphics take advantage of OpenGL.  From what I can see
OpenGL is a set of graphics libraries that need a special
graphics card to run.  I found the OpenGL libraries (actually
Mesa libraries) but I need some recommendations for a graphics
card that is OpenGL capable and also Linux supported.

I need to be able to tell our customers that we tested and
certified card A, card B, etc. that our software works
and works correctly with OpenGL.

Recommendations please?  Any special drivers for these cards
or is XFree86 all that is needed?

--
Christopher W. Aiken
Scenery Hill, Pa, USA
chris at cwaiken dot com
www.cwaiken.com
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2_r2

Re: ghost for linux?

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 02:59:25PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:

reading your reaction gives me the eery feeling I've missed what
this thread was about.  To me that's the single most horrible thing
that comes from mailing-lists instead of plain good old netnews,
you loose context easily.  I know I should delve into mutt's
capacity to filter messages for me, but I've never found how I can
have mutt toggle display af read messages, which is easy in any
decent newsreader.

 also sprach Carel Fellinger (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:30:56PM +0100):
  /var:  copy it to /tmp first? 
 or add rescue.bin and boot.catalog to /var?
 
 thing is: the boot process needs scratch space. log files, utmp/wtmp,
 pid files and all that jazz. these reside in /var, and a bootable
 cdrom must initialize a ramdisk which it mounts as /var. this is not
 always an easy process.

Ah, that's why I used the debian rescue discs, that one does all of this:)
But that's not what you're after. You want to mount the cdrom as /.
Well, have a look at Gibraltar or at bblcd.

  /?:sorry but you lost me here.
 
 the root partition. where will the root partition be? init won't
 accept /dev/cdrom because that's a drive, not a partition.

I doubt this is the real problem, e.g. Gibraltar ( a Debian based firewall
running from a cdrom ) works.

  from boot to prompt?: I must be stupid, but I/ve no idea what you're at.
 
 what happens between loading the boot image off the cdrom until you
 logged in with the cdrom? where is stuff read from and where is it
 written to?

Still not sure I read you right, but...
Booting from CD is often accomplished by having a complete image-file
of a bootable floppy of up to 2.44Meg at a special place on the CD.
The BIOS then treats that special file as if it were floppy drive A.

So we are back to booting from flop, with no writable harddisk.
Let's use ramdisks then:), fill here up with a minimal filesystem
and when all is fine change the root device.

-- 
groetjes, carel

RE: Samba problem

2001-03-02 Thread toolus muleus



 [2001/02/26 22:26:25, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216)
 file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 1014 are
available.

This is common in my log file as well.  Is it a problem?  Can it be fixed?


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