[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4081) Form widget improvements

2011-01-06 Thread Bruno Busco (JIRA)

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Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-4081:


Looking at other open source ERP systems I found that many of the improvement 
proposed here as sub-tasks are implemented in openCRX (http://demo.opencrx.org).
I put here this reference because it could be usefull in our design.

 Form widget improvements
 

 Key: OFBIZ-4081
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4081
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Reporter: Bruno Busco
Priority: Minor

 I have a list of ideas about improvements that could be done on the frame 
 widget.
 I think that creating jiras for these could be a good starting point to 
 discuss, and eventually design and implement them.
 This issue is an umbrella task for them.

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4092) Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Bruno Busco (JIRA)

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Bruno Busco commented on OFBIZ-4092:


I have an idea for the tab bar.
We all agree that it does not show well when it comes to two or three rows.
Well, we could only show the tabs that fit in one row and add a  tab as 
last tab.
When hovering on the  tab the remaining tabs appear like a pull down menu 
allowing the user to select one of them.
The actually selected tab should always be showed as the fist element on the 
left.

What do you think? Could it be done with some jquery script?

 Update The Flat Grey Visual Theme
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 Key: OFBIZ-4092
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Adrian Crum
Assignee: Adrian Crum
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: accounting800x600.png, catalog800x600.png, 
 catalogManager.png, content800x600.png, contentManager.png, flatgrey.patch, 
 flatgrey.patch, images.zip, ofbiz_logo.gif, partyDetail.png, 
 partyManager.png, screenshot.gif, timeSheet.png


 Update the Flat Grey visual theme. Design objectives:
 1. Floating, flexible layout - screen can be resized.
 2. Sight impaired accessible - users can change font size in their browser.
 3. Supports RTL layout.

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Re: svn commit: r1055790 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: config/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/ webapp/catalog/category/ widget/catalog/

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Sorry Hans,

I think we should discuss this change. It seems we lost many information. At 
first glance:

Lookups buttons for category and product
By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by 
Product which means less
No distinction between catalog and categories
Only Id for tree nodes, no names

What were the reasons that push you to change? I can't see the plus!

Thanks

Jacques


Author: hansbak
Date: Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
New Revision: 1055790

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev
Log:
In the catalog manager, replace the category and catalog tree by a single jquery tree, add a category option to list and search on 
categories similar to the new product option


Added:
   
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/category/CategoryTree.ftl
Modified:
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/controller.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CatalogMenus.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryForms.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryScreens.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CommonScreens.xml

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml?rev=1055790r1=1055789r2=1055790view=diff

==
--- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml Thu Jan  6 
08:36:23 2011
@@ -7459,6 +7459,10 @@
property key=PageTitleFacilityGeoLocation
value xml:lang=enFacility Geo Location/value
/property
+property key=PageTitleFindCategory
+value xml:lang=enFind Category/value
+value xml:lang=thค้นหาหมวดหมู่/value
+/property
property key=PageTitleFindConfigItems
value xml:lang=deKonfigurationsposition suchen/value
value xml:lang=enFind Config Items/value
@@ -7479,7 +7483,7 @@
value xml:lang=itRicerca Stabilimento/value
value xml:lang=roCauta Compartimento/value
value xml:lang=ruПоиск объекта/value
-value xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้/value
+value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้า/value
value xml:lang=zh查找场所/value
value xml:lang=zh_TWæŸ¥æ‰¾å ´æ‰€/value
/property

Added: 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy?rev=1055790view=auto

==
--- 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
 (added)
+++ 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
 Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
@@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
+/*
+ * Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
+ * or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
+ * distributed with this work for additional information
+ * regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
+ * to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
+ * License); you may not use this file except in compliance
+ * with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
+ *
+ * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
+ *
+ * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
+ * software distributed under the License is distributed on an
+ * AS IS BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
+ * KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
+ * specific language governing permissions and limitations
+ * under the License.
+ */
+
+import org.ofbiz.base.util.*;
+import org.ofbiz.product.catalog.*;
+import org.ofbiz.product.category.*;
+import org.ofbiz.entity.GenericValue;
+import javolution.util.FastMap;
+import javolution.util.FastList;
+import org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilMisc;
+import org.ofbiz.base.util.UtilValidate;
+import org.ofbiz.entity.GenericValue;
+import org.ofbiz.entity.util.EntityUtil;
+import javax.servlet.http.HttpSession;
+
+prodCatalogList = FastList.newInstance();
+prodCatalogs = delegator.findByAnd(ProdCatalog);
+if (prodCatalogs.size()  0) {
+for (i = 0; i  prodCatalogs.size(); i++) {
+
+prodCatalogMap = FastMap.newInstance();
+prodCatalog = prodCatalogs[i];
+prodCatalogId = prodCatalog.getString(prodCatalogId);
+prodCatalogMap.put(prodCatalogId, prodCatalogId);
+prodCatalogMap.put(catalogName, 
prodCatalog.getString(catalogName));
+

Re: svn commit: r1055790 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: config/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/ webapp/catalog/category/ widget/catalog/

2011-01-06 Thread Hans Bakker
Jacques,

see inline

On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 Sorry Hans,
 
 I think we should discuss this change. It seems we lost many information. At 
 first glance:

We just added an option, existing screens were not changed only the
catalog/category tree is now using jquery which is working much better.

 
 Lookups buttons for category and product
 By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by 
 Product which means less
 No distinction between catalog and categories

if you think we need 2 trees displaying the same info...sure w can add a
jquey version for itdoesn;t ever catalog entry have the word
'catalog' in it?

 Only Id for tree nodes, no names
 

do not understand that.

 What were the reasons that push you to change? I can't see the plus!
 

to be able to have a better catalog tree and search functions in
categories.we have a customer with many categories with often
duplicates which are difficult to spot without a findAlso they think
the magento interface is much better as ours, so we went a bit in that
direction.

 Thanks
 
 Jacques
 
  Author: hansbak
  Date: Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
  New Revision: 1055790
 
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev
  Log:
  In the catalog manager, replace the category and catalog tree by a single 
  jquery tree, add a category option to list and search on 
  categories similar to the new product option
 
  Added:
 
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/category/CategoryTree.ftl
  Modified:
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/controller.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CatalogMenus.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryForms.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryScreens.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CommonScreens.xml
 
  Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
  URL: 
  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml?rev=1055790r1=1055789r2=1055790view=diff
  ==
  --- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml (original)
  +++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml Thu Jan  6 
  08:36:23 2011
  @@ -7459,6 +7459,10 @@
  property key=PageTitleFacilityGeoLocation
  value xml:lang=enFacility Geo Location/value
  /property
  +property key=PageTitleFindCategory
  +value xml:lang=enFind Category/value
  +value 
  xml:lang=thค้นหาหมวดหมู่/value
  +/property
  property key=PageTitleFindConfigItems
  value xml:lang=deKonfigurationsposition suchen/value
  value xml:lang=enFind Config Items/value
  @@ -7479,7 +7483,7 @@
  value xml:lang=itRicerca Stabilimento/value
  value xml:lang=roCauta Compartimento/value
  value xml:lang=ruПоиск объекта/value
  -value 
  xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้/value
  +value 
  xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้า/value
  value xml:lang=zh查找场所/value
  value xml:lang=zh_TWæŸ¥æ‰¾å ´æ‰€/value
  /property
 
  Added: 
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
  URL: 
  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy?rev=1055790view=auto
  ==
  --- 
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
   (added)
  +++ 
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
   Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
  @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
  +/*
  + * Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
  + * or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
  + * distributed with this work for additional information
  + * regarding copyright ownership.  The ASF licenses this file
  + * to you under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the
  + * License); you may not use this file except in compliance
  + * with the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
  + *
  + * http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
  + *
  + * Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing,
  + * software distributed under the License is distributed on an
  + * AS IS BASIS, WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY
  + * KIND, either express or implied.  See the License for the
  + * specific language governing permissions and limitations
  + * under the License.
  + */
  +
  +import org.ofbiz.base.util.*;
  

Re: svn commit: r1055790 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: config/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/ webapp/catalog/category/ widget/catalog/

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Hans,

Inline, but what about the 2 points below?

Lookups buttons for category and product have been removed?
By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by Product which means less. I mean, the 1st instanceof the 
dropdown was actually telling us its purpose, now it's less obvious, why have you changed it?


From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com

Jacques,

see inline

On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Sorry Hans,

I think we should discuss this change. It seems we lost many information. At 
first glance:


We just added an option, existing screens were not changed only the
catalog/category tree is now using jquery which is working much better.



Lookups buttons for category and product
By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by 
Product which means less
No distinction between catalog and categories


if you think we need 2 trees displaying the same info...sure w can add a
jquey version for itdoesn;t ever catalog entry have the word
'catalog' in it?


Yes I can agree on this point. But what if a catalog has no the catalog word in 
it, how the distinction can be made. I'd suggest to
have different node icons for catalog and categories. And what about changing the title 
to Browse Catalogs/Categories?


Only Id for tree nodes, no names



do not understand that.


Before you had the Id of the category and its name( like Gizmos [100]), now 
only the Id, ie 100


What were the reasons that push you to change? I can't see the plus!



to be able to have a better catalog tree and search functions in
categories.we have a customer with many categories with often
duplicates which are difficult to spot without a findAlso they think
the magento interface is much better as ours, so we went a bit in that
direction.


I see, with the minor changes it needs it should be ok...

Jacques


Thanks

Jacques

 Author: hansbak
 Date: Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
 New Revision: 1055790

 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev
 Log:
 In the catalog manager, replace the category and catalog tree by a single 
jquery tree, add a category option to list and search
 on
 categories similar to the new product option

 Added:

ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/category/CategoryTree.ftl
 Modified:
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/controller.xml
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CatalogMenus.xml
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryForms.xml
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryScreens.xml
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CommonScreens.xml

 Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
 URL:
 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml?rev=1055790r1=1055789r2=1055790view=diff
 ==
 --- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml (original)
 +++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml Thu Jan  6 
08:36:23 2011
 @@ -7459,6 +7459,10 @@
 property key=PageTitleFacilityGeoLocation
 value xml:lang=enFacility Geo Location/value
 /property
 +property key=PageTitleFindCategory
 +value xml:lang=enFind Category/value
 +value xml:lang=thค้นหาหมวดหมู่/value
 +/property
 property key=PageTitleFindConfigItems
 value xml:lang=deKonfigurationsposition suchen/value
 value xml:lang=enFind Config Items/value
 @@ -7479,7 +7483,7 @@
 value xml:lang=itRicerca Stabilimento/value
 value xml:lang=roCauta Compartimento/value
 value xml:lang=ruПоиск объекта/value
 -value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้/value
 +value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้า/value
 value xml:lang=zh查找场所/value
 value xml:lang=zh_TWæŸ¥æ‰¾å ´æ‰€/value
 /property

 Added: 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
 URL:
 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy?rev=1055790view=auto
 ==
 --- 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
 (added)
 +++ 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
 Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
 @@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
 +/*
 + * Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
 + * or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
 + * distributed with this work for 

Re: svn commit: r1055790 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: config/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/ webapp/catalog/category/ widget/catalog/

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com

On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 12:06 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hans,

Inline, but what about the 2 points below?

Lookups buttons for category and product have been removed?


can you tell me which url? i still see them on the main screen?


I have just updated the trunk demo (no need to load data no to compile for r1055790 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev )

and cleared the cache (labels). It's the same than locally there...
https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/login/main?USERNAME=adminPASSWORD=ofbiz


By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by 
Product which means less. I mean, the 1st instanceof
the
dropdown was actually telling us its purpose, now it's less obvious, why have 
you changed it?


can you give a url o sceendump, i do not see it is changed?


Right, only locally, not sure why...

Jacques



From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com
 Jacques,

 see inline

 On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 Sorry Hans,

 I think we should discuss this change. It seems we lost many information. At 
first glance:

 We just added an option, existing screens were not changed only the
 catalog/category tree is now using jquery which is working much better.


 Lookups buttons for category and product
 By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by 
Product which means less
 No distinction between catalog and categories

 if you think we need 2 trees displaying the same info...sure w can add a
 jquey version for itdoesn;t ever catalog entry have the word
 'catalog' in it?

Yes I can agree on this point. But what if a catalog has no the catalog word in 
it, how the distinction can be made. I'd suggest
to
have different node icons for catalog and categories. And what about changing the title 
to Browse Catalogs/Categories?

 Only Id for tree nodes, no names


 do not understand that.

Before you had the Id of the category and its name( like Gizmos [100]), now 
only the Id, ie 100

 What were the reasons that push you to change? I can't see the plus!


 to be able to have a better catalog tree and search functions in
 categories.we have a customer with many categories with often
 duplicates which are difficult to spot without a findAlso they think
 the magento interface is much better as ours, so we went a bit in that
 direction.

I see, with the minor changes it needs it should be ok...

Jacques

 Thanks

 Jacques

  Author: hansbak
  Date: Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
  New Revision: 1055790
 
  URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev
  Log:
  In the catalog manager, replace the category and catalog tree by a single 
jquery tree, add a category option to list and
  search
  on
  categories similar to the new product option
 
  Added:
 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/category/CategoryTree.ftl
  Modified:
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/controller.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CatalogMenus.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryForms.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryScreens.xml
 ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CommonScreens.xml
 
  Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
  URL:
  
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml?rev=1055790r1=1055789r2=1055790view=diff
  
==
  --- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml (original)
  +++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml Thu Jan  6 
08:36:23 2011
  @@ -7459,6 +7459,10 @@
  property key=PageTitleFacilityGeoLocation
  value xml:lang=enFacility Geo Location/value
  /property
  +property key=PageTitleFindCategory
  +value xml:lang=enFind Category/value
  +value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาหมวดหมู่/value
  +/property
  property key=PageTitleFindConfigItems
  value xml:lang=deKonfigurationsposition suchen/value
  value xml:lang=enFind Config Items/value
  @@ -7479,7 +7483,7 @@
  value xml:lang=itRicerca Stabilimento/value
  value xml:lang=roCauta Compartimento/value
  value xml:lang=ruПоиск объекта/value
  -value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้/value
  +value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาคลังสินค้า/value
  value xml:lang=zh查找场所/value
  value xml:lang=zh_TWæŸ¥æ‰¾å ´æ‰€/value
  /property
 
  Added: 
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
  URL:
  

Re: svn commit: r1055790 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: config/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/ webapp/catalog/category/ widget/catalog/

2011-01-06 Thread Hans Bakker
ok, i looked in he tomahawk theme, 

we will correct it in the blue-gray theme

no problem to get upset?

Regardsm'
Hans


On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 12:53 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com
  On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 12:06 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
  Hans,
 
  Inline, but what about the 2 points below?
 
  Lookups buttons for category and product have been removed?
 
  can you tell me which url? i still see them on the main screen?
 
 I have just updated the trunk demo (no need to load data no to compile for 
 r1055790 
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev )
 and cleared the cache (labels). It's the same than locally there...
 https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/login/main?USERNAME=adminPASSWORD=ofbiz
 
  By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by 
  Product which means less. I mean, the 1st instanceof
  the
  dropdown was actually telling us its purpose, now it's less obvious, why 
  have you changed it?
 
  can you give a url o sceendump, i do not see it is changed?
 
 Right, only locally, not sure why...
 
 Jacques
 
 
  From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com
   Jacques,
  
   see inline
  
   On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
   Sorry Hans,
  
   I think we should discuss this change. It seems we lost many 
   information. At first glance:
  
   We just added an option, existing screens were not changed only the
   catalog/category tree is now using jquery which is working much better.
  
  
   Lookups buttons for category and product
   By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced 
   by Product which means less
   No distinction between catalog and categories
  
   if you think we need 2 trees displaying the same info...sure w can add a
   jquey version for itdoesn;t ever catalog entry have the word
   'catalog' in it?
 
  Yes I can agree on this point. But what if a catalog has no the catalog 
  word in it, how the distinction can be made. I'd suggest
  to
  have different node icons for catalog and categories. And what about 
  changing the title to Browse Catalogs/Categories?
 
   Only Id for tree nodes, no names
  
  
   do not understand that.
 
  Before you had the Id of the category and its name( like Gizmos [100]), 
  now only the Id, ie 100
 
   What were the reasons that push you to change? I can't see the plus!
  
  
   to be able to have a better catalog tree and search functions in
   categories.we have a customer with many categories with often
   duplicates which are difficult to spot without a findAlso they think
   the magento interface is much better as ours, so we went a bit in that
   direction.
 
  I see, with the minor changes it needs it should be ok...
 
  Jacques
 
   Thanks
  
   Jacques
  
Author: hansbak
Date: Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
New Revision: 1055790
   
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev
Log:
In the catalog manager, replace the category and catalog tree by a 
single jquery tree, add a category option to list and
search
on
categories similar to the new product option
   
Added:
   
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
   
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/category/CategoryTree.ftl
Modified:
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
   
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/controller.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CatalogMenus.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryForms.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryScreens.xml
   ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CommonScreens.xml
   
Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml?rev=1055790r1=1055789r2=1055790view=diff
==
--- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml 
(original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml Thu 
Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
@@ -7459,6 +7459,10 @@
property key=PageTitleFacilityGeoLocation
value xml:lang=enFacility Geo Location/value
/property
+property key=PageTitleFindCategory
+value xml:lang=enFind Category/value
+value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาหมวดหมู่/value
+/property
property key=PageTitleFindConfigItems
value xml:lang=deKonfigurationsposition suchen/value
value xml:lang=enFind Config Items/value
@@ -7479,7 +7483,7 @@
value xml:lang=itRicerca Stabilimento/value
value xml:lang=roCauta Compartimento/value
  

Re: svn commit: r1055790 - in /ofbiz/trunk/applications/product: config/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/ webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/ webapp/catalog/category/ widget/catalog/

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com

ok, i looked in he tomahawk theme, 

we will correct it in the blue-gray theme

no problem to get upset?

Regardsm'
Hans


FYI:  I saw the same with Tomahawk, did not look at others themes, could you 
please check?

Thanks

Jacques



On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 12:53 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com
 On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 12:06 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 Hans,

 Inline, but what about the 2 points below?

 Lookups buttons for category and product have been removed?

 can you tell me which url? i still see them on the main screen?

I have just updated the trunk demo (no need to load data no to compile for 
r1055790
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev )
and cleared the cache (labels). It's the same than locally there...
https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/catalog/control/login/main?USERNAME=adminPASSWORD=ofbiz

 By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by Product which means less. I mean, the 1st 
 instanceof

 the
 dropdown was actually telling us its purpose, now it's less obvious, why 
have you changed it?

 can you give a url o sceendump, i do not see it is changed?

Right, only locally, not sure why...

Jacques


 From: Hans Bakker mailingl...@antwebsystems.com
  Jacques,
 
  see inline
 
  On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:47 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
  Sorry Hans,
 
  I think we should discuss this change. It seems we lost many information. 
At first glance:
 
  We just added an option, existing screens were not changed only the
  catalog/category tree is now using jquery which is working much better.
 
 
  Lookups buttons for category and product
  By default in the quick access dropdown, -Product Jump- is replaced by 
Product which means less
  No distinction between catalog and categories
 
  if you think we need 2 trees displaying the same info...sure w can add a
  jquey version for itdoesn;t ever catalog entry have the word
  'catalog' in it?

 Yes I can agree on this point. But what if a catalog has no the catalog word in it, how the distinction can be made. I'd 
 suggest

 to
 have different node icons for catalog and categories. And what about changing the 
title to Browse Catalogs/Categories?

  Only Id for tree nodes, no names
 
 
  do not understand that.

 Before you had the Id of the category and its name( like Gizmos [100]), now 
only the Id, ie 100

  What were the reasons that push you to change? I can't see the plus!
 
 
  to be able to have a better catalog tree and search functions in
  categories.we have a customer with many categories with often
  duplicates which are difficult to spot without a findAlso they think
  the magento interface is much better as ours, so we went a bit in that
  direction.

 I see, with the minor changes it needs it should be ok...

 Jacques

  Thanks
 
  Jacques
 
   Author: hansbak
   Date: Thu Jan  6 08:36:23 2011
   New Revision: 1055790
  
   URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1055790view=rev
   Log:
   In the catalog manager, replace the category and catalog tree by a 
single jquery tree, add a category option to list and
   search
   on
   categories similar to the new product option
  
   Added:
  
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/actions/category/CategoryTree.groovy
  
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/category/CategoryTree.ftl
   Modified:
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
  
ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/webapp/catalog/WEB-INF/controller.xml
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CatalogMenus.xml
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryForms.xml
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CategoryScreens.xml
  ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/widget/catalog/CommonScreens.xml
  
   Modified: ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml
   URL:
   
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml?rev=1055790r1=1055789r2=1055790view=diff
   
==
   --- ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml 
(original)
   +++ ofbiz/trunk/applications/product/config/ProductUiLabels.xml Thu Jan 
 6 08:36:23 2011
   @@ -7459,6 +7459,10 @@
   property key=PageTitleFacilityGeoLocation
   value xml:lang=enFacility Geo Location/value
   /property
   +property key=PageTitleFindCategory
   +value xml:lang=enFind Category/value
   +value 
xml:lang=thค้นหาหมวดหมู่/value
   +/property
   property key=PageTitleFindConfigItems
   value xml:lang=deKonfigurationsposition suchen/value
   value xml:lang=enFind Config Items/value
   @@ -7479,7 +7483,7 @@
   value xml:lang=itRicerca Stabilimento/value
   value xml:lang=roCauta Compartimento/value
 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Ryan,

Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092 looks 
really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what 
happened to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.


Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having 
more themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some (rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines 
or synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7 
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)


There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by 
Adrian. Just choice the name!


Thanks

Jacques

Ryan Foster wrote:

IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme.  Adrian is right, 
the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
years and it looks very dated.  It needs some love.  Let's not add another 
improved version, let's just improve the version we
have now.  I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the long run.

As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like navigation 
without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.   Adrian, I 
would be happy to collaborate with you on this.  I
think I have some ideas that could help.  Email me directly if you want to hash 
out some ideas outside of this mailing list
discussion.

Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as an 
opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme
I have been working on already for some time now that I honestly hope will 
become the go-to theme for scalability and
customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey theme altogether. 
 The new theme scales down very well to 800x600
and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.  Stay tuned 
for more details in the next few days...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces of Chiclets 
chewing gum. They look terrible when they are
displayed in two rows.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com wrote:

By chiclet main navigation style,
you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
it is (because there are advantages
to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo

and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
the chiclet

main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a

collapsible left column.


-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com

wrote:



From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,

Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
I really would appreciate to keep the
Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
few visual improvements.
Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to

my mind

. :-)

Cheers

2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com


IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES to keep it, of course.
I have no ideas though :/

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.


The current version of the theme is based on the original look and feel of
OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in 2004. Around the Spring of
2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the original style a little more
interesting.

After that, the visual theme was converted to a floating flexible layout
(to fit any size screen), it was made

sight-impaired accessible (font size

can be changed), and it added support for bi-directional layout (for rtl
languages). Those design decisions were made by the OFBiz community and, in
my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme the fallback theme when all
else fails. It just works.

Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would like to update it to make
it more modern, but maintain its advantages over the other themes. I'm
thinking it only needs css and gif file updates. The current templates and
javascripts would be maintained.

If anyone is interested, they are welcome to help out. I would also
appreciate any suggestions or comments.

Let me know what you think.

-Adrian








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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Adrian Crum
From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual 
theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will get the 
attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can fix 
it. If I'm not available, someone else could fix it, etc.


-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Ryan,

Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.

Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some
(rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or
synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)

There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st
modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just
choice the name!

Thanks

Jacques

Ryan Foster wrote:

IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme. Adrian is
right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add
another improved version, let's just improve the version we
have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the
long run.

As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like
navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.
Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I
think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want
to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
discussion.

Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as
an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme
I have been working on already for some time now that I honestly hope
will become the go-to theme for scalability and
customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey theme
altogether. The new theme scales down very well to 800x600
and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.
Stay tuned for more details in the next few days...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces
of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are
displayed in two rows.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:

By chiclet main navigation style,
you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
it is (because there are advantages
to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo

and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
the chiclet

main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a

collapsible left column.


-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp
sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com

wrote:



From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,

Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
I really would appreciate to keep the
Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
few visual improvements.
Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to

my mind

. :-)

Cheers

2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com


IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES to keep it,
of course.
I have no ideas though :/

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.


The current version of the theme is based on the original look
and feel of
OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in 2004. Around
the Spring of
2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the original style a
little more
interesting.

After that, the visual theme was converted to a floating
flexible layout
(to fit any size screen), it was made

sight-impaired accessible (font size

can be changed), and it added support for bi-directional layout
(for rtl
languages). Those design decisions were made by the OFBiz
community and, in
my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme the fallback
theme when all
else fails. It just works.

Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would like to update
it to make
it more modern, but maintain its advantages over the other
themes. I'm
thinking it only needs css and gif file updates. The current
templates and
javascripts would be maintained.

If anyone is interested, they are welcome to help out. I would also
appreciate any 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ryan Foster
Jacques,

I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the themes has 
some valid points.  However, in regards to the BizznessTime theme, I never 
really intended for that to be my theme anyway.  I always viewed it as a 
community theme as that was it's original intent and it was truly a 
collaborative effort to build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, 
BrainFood, and other members of the the OFBiz community.

At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over the last 
few months as I have left HotWax and gone into independent consulting and 
freelance development.  I plan on taking a much more active role in the 
community in the months and years ahead.

As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good idea to 
have a theme repo outside of the trunk that individuals could commit to?  The 
problem with theme maintenance once a new theme has been added to the trunk is 
that not everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process 
of maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual contributors as they 
have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration, etc, rather than just 
monitoring and maintaining their own code. 

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

 From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual theme 
 being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will get the attention it 
 needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can fix it. If I'm not 
 available, someone else could fix it, etc.
 
 -Adrian
 
 On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 Ryan,
 
 Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...
 
 My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
 up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
 to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.
 
 Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
 taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
 themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some
 (rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or
 synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7
 http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)
 
 There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st
 modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just
 choice the name!
 
 Thanks
 
 Jacques
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme. Adrian is
 right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
 years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add
 another improved version, let's just improve the version we
 have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the
 long run.
 
 As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like
 navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
 Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.
 Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I
 think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want
 to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
 discussion.
 
 Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as
 an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme
 I have been working on already for some time now that I honestly hope
 will become the go-to theme for scalability and
 customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey theme
 altogether. The new theme scales down very well to 800x600
 and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.
 Stay tuned for more details in the next few days...
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
 Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces
 of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are
 displayed in two rows.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 wrote:
 By chiclet main navigation style,
 you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
 it is (because there are advantages
 to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo
 and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
 the chiclet
 main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a
 collapsible left column.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp
 sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
 To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
 I really 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Yes, but why not create an evolution and keep the old one? Is it so bad that Ryan and you want to remove it? I like plurality, and 
especially I'm sure it will be easier for some of our users to have it at hand...


Any other opinions?

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adri...@hlmksw.com

From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual
theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will get the
attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can fix
it. If I'm not available, someone else could fix it, etc.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Ryan,

Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.

Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some
(rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or
synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)

There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st
modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just
choice the name!

Thanks

Jacques

Ryan Foster wrote:

IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme. Adrian is
right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add
another improved version, let's just improve the version we
have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the
long run.

As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like
navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.
Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I
think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want
to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
discussion.

Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as
an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme
I have been working on already for some time now that I honestly hope
will become the go-to theme for scalability and
customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey theme
altogether. The new theme scales down very well to 800x600
and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.
Stay tuned for more details in the next few days...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces
of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are
displayed in two rows.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:

By chiclet main navigation style,
you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
it is (because there are advantages
to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo

and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
the chiclet

main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a

collapsible left column.


-Adrian

--- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp
sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com

wrote:



From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,

Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
I really would appreciate to keep the
Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
few visual improvements.
Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to

my mind

. :-)

Cheers

2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com


IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES to keep it,
of course.
I have no ideas though :/

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.


The current version of the theme is based on the original look
and feel of
OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in 2004. Around
the Spring of
2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the original style a
little more
interesting.

After that, the visual theme was converted to a floating
flexible layout
(to fit any size screen), it was made

sight-impaired accessible (font size

can be changed), and it added support for bi-directional layout
(for rtl
languages). Those design decisions were made by the OFBiz
community and, in
my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme the fallback
theme when all
else fails. It just works.

Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would like to 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Ryan Foster wrote:

Jacques,

I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the themes has 
some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme anyway.  
I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to build it 
between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.


Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the 
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much at
the beginning, my apologies.


At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over the last 
few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a much more 
active role in the community in the months and
years ahead.


That's really a good, very good news!


As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good idea to 
have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a new 
theme has been added to the trunk is that not
everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of 
maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration, etc, 
rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
code.


This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long as *at least 
one works perfectly* (another way is to
become committer), opinions?

Jacques



Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual theme 
being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can fix 
it. If I'm not available, someone else could fix
it, etc.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Ryan,

Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.

Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some
(rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or
synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)

There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st
modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just
choice the name!

Thanks

Jacques

Ryan Foster wrote:

IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme. Adrian is
right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add
another improved version, let's just improve the version we
have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the
long run.

As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like
navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.
Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I
think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want
to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
discussion.

Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as
an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme
I have been working on already for some time now that I honestly hope
will become the go-to theme for scalability and
customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey theme
altogether. The new theme scales down very well to 800x600
and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.
Stay tuned for more details in the next few days...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces
of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are
displayed in two rows.

-Adrian

--- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:

By chiclet main navigation style,
you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
it is (because there are advantages
to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...

Jacques

From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com

I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo

and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
the chiclet

main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a

collapsible left column.


-Adrian

--- On Sun, 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ryan Foster
inline...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

 Ryan Foster wrote:
 Jacques,
 
 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the themes 
 has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme 
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to build it 
 between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.
 
 Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the 
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much at
 the beginning, my apologies.
 
 At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over the 
 last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a much 
 more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.
 
 That's really a good, very good news!
 
 As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good idea 
 to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a new 
 theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of 
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration, etc, 
 rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.
 
 This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long as 
 *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?

I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With 
Wordpress, there is one official theme that is included with the install, but 
there are literally thousands of themes that are not maintained by Wordpress 
that they list on there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with 
the 3.0 release you can even search for new themes and install them 
automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way fosters 
wider community support by delegating maintenance of these themes to individual 
contributors rather than forcing it on a handful of committers and also allows 
developers to monetize there contributions by offering premium themes and 
plugins.  In fact, there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress 
community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.  This 
furthers solidifies the base of support for the project by offering a mid-tier 
option for someone who wants something more than OOTB but can't necessarily 
afford custom development.

 
 Jacques
 
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
 From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual theme 
 being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
 get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can 
 fix it. If I'm not available, someone else could fix
 it, etc.
 
 -Adrian
 
 On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 Ryan,
 
 Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...
 
 My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
 up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
 to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.
 
 Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
 taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
 themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some
 (rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or
 synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7
 http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)
 
 There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st
 modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just
 choice the name!
 
 Thanks
 
 Jacques
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme. Adrian is
 right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
 years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add
 another improved version, let's just improve the version we
 have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the
 long run.
 
 As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like
 navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
 Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.
 Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I
 think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want
 to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
 discussion.
 
 Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I 

DockBook anchors

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman

been adding anchors in the docbooks
anchor xml:id=CreateMaintainProductFeatures/
 the lets us use #CreateMaintainProductFeatures in URLS.
so this will allow using these in the mailing list.

would like to use it as the way to sync to the help
for instance the features has many section that are individual help but 
it is one file about features.

have not looked into what it takes yet.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man



Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ryan Foster
I'm all for plurality as well.  In fact, I have at least 10 more front-end and 
backend themes that I am working on or planning.  I'm just not sure I want to 
maintain 10 more themes in the trunk.  What if Bruno, Ean or anyone else 
creates more themes as well?  Do we really want to constantly maintain 10, 20, 
30 different themes?...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

 Yes, but why not create an evolution and keep the old one? Is it so bad that 
 Ryan and you want to remove it? I like plurality, and especially I'm sure it 
 will be easier for some of our users to have it at hand...
 
 Any other opinions?
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adri...@hlmksw.com
 From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual
 theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will get the
 attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can fix
 it. If I'm not available, someone else could fix it, etc.
 
 -Adrian
 
 On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 Ryan,
 
 Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...
 
 My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
 up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
 to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.
 
 Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
 taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
 themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some
 (rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or
 synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7
 http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)
 
 There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st
 modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just
 choice the name!
 
 Thanks
 
 Jacques
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme. Adrian is
 right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
 years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add
 another improved version, let's just improve the version we
 have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the
 long run.
 
 As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like
 navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
 Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.
 Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I
 think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want
 to hash out some ideas outside of this mailing list
 discussion.
 
 Consequently, as far as new admin themes go, I guess I can use this as
 an opportunity as well to drop a teaser about a new theme
 I have been working on already for some time now that I honestly hope
 will become the go-to theme for scalability and
 customization, and that will eventually replace the Flat Grey theme
 altogether. The new theme scales down very well to 800x600
 and has minimal styling for maximum flexibility and customization.
 Stay tuned for more details in the next few days...
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
 Chiclet refers to a brand of chewing gum. The tabs look like pieces
 of Chiclets chewing gum. They look terrible when they are
 displayed in two rows.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Mon, 1/3/11, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 wrote:
 By chiclet main navigation style,
 you mean the tabs? Then I think we should keep Flat Grey as
 it is (because there are advantages
 to have tabs) and create a Flat Grey evolution...
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 I was thinking we could use colors from the Apache logo
 and the BizznessTime theme. I would also like to get rid of
 the chiclet
 main navigation style, and maybe have that menu in a
 collapsible left column.
 
 -Adrian
 
 --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Sascha Rodekamp
 sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Sascha Rodekamp sascha.rodekamp.lynx...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme
 To: dev@ofbiz.apache.org,
 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 2:27 AM
 I really would appreciate to keep the
 Flat Gray. But you're right it needs a
 few visual improvements.
 Let me think about this, maybe somethink comes to
 my mind
 . :-)
 
 Cheers
 
 2010/12/29 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
 IIRW, it's the only really RTL capable. So a big YES to keep it,
 of course.
 I have no ideas though :/
 
 Jacques
 
 From: Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com
 
 The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.
 
 The current version of the theme is based on the original look
 and feel of
 OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in 2004. Around
 the 

[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-4095) Catalog Help docbook files

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman (JIRA)
Catalog Help docbook files
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 Key: OFBIZ-4095
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4095
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: product
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: BJ Freeman
Priority: Minor


top sub task for products component.

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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Adrian Crum

On 1/6/2011 11:11 AM, Ryan Foster wrote:
I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With Wordpress, there is one official theme that is included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0 release you can even search for new themes and install them automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact, there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.  This furthers solidifies the base of support for the project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more than OOTB but can't 

necessarily afford custom development.

This was discussed when we first added visual theme capability. There is 
nothing blocking third-party visual themes being offered on other sites. 
It was suggested that OFBiz have only one theme, but the decision was 
made to have more than one so that visual theme selection could be 
demonstrated.


-Adrian


[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-2361) Category URL conflicts with product URL

2011-01-06 Thread Wickersheimer Jeremy (JIRA)

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2361?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12978472#action_12978472
 ] 

Wickersheimer Jeremy commented on OFBIZ-2361:
-

Just noticed the same problem, it is confusing and it will probably hit a lot 
of people since the default IDs (when creating categories and products from the 
catalog) are sure to conflict. As a result the category navigation menu (left 
column) in ecommerce is broken.

Perhaps a quick fix is for the `CatalogUrlServlet` to only consider products 
when using the p_ prefix syntax ? Anyway there seems to be no way to be 
''smart'' since /ecommerce/products/1/10001 could be either sub category 
10001 in category 1 or product 10001 in category 1.

 Category URL conflicts with product URL
 ---

 Key: OFBIZ-2361
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2361
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
 Environment: red hat, postgres
Reporter: Rohit Sureka

 Hi, 
 I just found out a potential bug in the new URL structure for category links 
 in the ecommerce page. 
 The new URL's for a category link reads as 
 http://demo.ofbiz.org/ecommerce/products/100/100
 here 100 is the category ID, this URL should ideally list all products in the 
 category with ID 100. However if we create a product with ID 100 ie. 
 product_id=100, there arise the bug. Instead of all item being shown in the 
 category, the product page for product_id 100 is displayed, irrespective of 
 the category/catalog/store that product ID belongs to. 
 I think this is a unusual behavior, and may cause problems for people wanting 
 to move on to newer code. 
 Please let me know if should open a jira issue for it. 
 Rohit

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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Ryan Foster wrote:

inline...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Ryan Foster wrote:

Jacques,

I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the themes has 
some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme anyway.  
I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to build it 
between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.


Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the 
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
at the beginning, my apologies.


At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over the last 
few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a much more 
active role in the community in the months and
years ahead.


That's really a good, very good news!


As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good idea to 
have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a new 
theme has been added to the trunk is that not
everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of 
maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration, etc, 
rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
code.


This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long as *at least 
one works perfectly* (another way is to
become committer), opinions?


I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With Wordpress, 
there is one official theme that is
included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes that are 
not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0 release 
you can even search for new themes and install them
automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way fosters 
wider community support by delegating maintenance of
these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a handful of 
committers and also allows developers to monetize
there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact, there 
are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.  This 
furthers solidifies the base of support for the
project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more than 
OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom
development.


This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean that we 
should not try...


Jacques



Jacques



Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual theme 
being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I can fix 
it. If I'm not available, someone else could
fix it, etc.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Ryan,

Your screen copies at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.

Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
themes. The more we have the better, I like to have the choice. Some
(rare) people prefer to use old things, see games machines or
synthesizers for instance (I still love the DX-7 sound
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7
http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx7.php)

There are any evolved version of Flat Grey yet. So this could be the 1st
modern one still using the RTL mechanism introduced by Adrian. Just
choice the name!

Thanks

Jacques

Ryan Foster wrote:

IMO I see no reason to have a Flat Grey Evolution theme. Adrian is
right, the Flat Grey theme hasn't had a visual update in
years and it looks very dated. It needs some love. Let's not add
another improved version, let's just improve the version we
have now. I think that is more efficient and more beneficial in the
long run.

As far as the tabs go, we can still keep a horizontal, tab-like
navigation without actually having the tabs look like tabs.
Because, the absolutely do look terrible displayed in two rows.
Adrian, I would be happy to collaborate with you on this. I
think I have some ideas that could help. Email me directly if you want
to hash out some ideas 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Adrian Crum wrote:

On 1/6/2011 11:11 AM, Ryan Foster wrote:

I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With Wordpress, 
there is one official theme that is
included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes that are 
not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0 release 
you can even search for new themes and install them
automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way fosters 
wider community support by delegating maintenance
of these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a handful 
of committers and also allows developers to
monetize there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In 
fact, there are many individuals and companies in the
Wordpress community that make their living solely by selling themes and 
plugins.  This furthers solidifies the base of support
for the project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more than OOTB but can't   

necessarily afford custom development.

This was discussed when we first added visual theme capability. There is
nothing blocking third-party visual themes being offered on other sites.
It was suggested that OFBiz have only one theme, but the decision was
made to have more than one so that visual theme selection could be
demonstrated.
-Adrian


I guess Ryan would hope to have a mechanism to handle it graciously

Jacques



[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-4096) Error in order email confirmation template

2011-01-06 Thread Wickersheimer Jeremy (JIRA)
Error in order email confirmation template
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 Key: OFBIZ-4096
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4096
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
Affects Versions: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
Reporter: Wickersheimer Jeremy
 Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk


In :

{code:title=specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/order/orderheader.ftl:123|borderStyle=solid}
#assign pmBillingAddress = creditCard.getRelatedOne(PostalAddress)
{code}

is missing the ?if_exists causing errors in some cases.

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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Bruno Busco
Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

 Ryan Foster wrote:

 inline...

 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:

 Jacques,

 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.


 Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over
 the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.


 That's really a good, very good news!

  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good
 idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a
 new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration,
 etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.


 This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long
 as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?


 I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With
 Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
 included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
 that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
 there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
 release you can even search for new themes and install them
 automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
 fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
 these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
 handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
 there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact,
 there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
 community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.
  This furthers solidifies the base of support for the
 project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more
 than OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom
 development.


 This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is
 unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean that we should
 not try...

 Jacques



 Jacques


  Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

  From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual
 theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
 get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I
 can fix it. If I'm not available, someone else could
 fix it, etc.

 -Adrian

 On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

 Ryan,

 Your screen copies at
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

 My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
 up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
 to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.

 Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
 taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
 themes. The more we have the 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: Bruno Busco bruno.bu...@gmail.com

Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

-Bruno


Sounds like a plan!

Jacques




2011/1/6 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com


Ryan Foster wrote:


inline...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

 Ryan Foster wrote:



Jacques,

I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme
anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.



Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
at the beginning, my apologies.

 At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over

the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a
much more active role in the community in the months and
years ahead.



That's really a good, very good news!

 As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good

idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a
new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of
maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration,
etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
code.



This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long
as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
become committer), opinions?



I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With
Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
release you can even search for new themes and install them
automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact,
there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.
 This furthers solidifies the base of support for the
project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more
than OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom
development.



This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is
unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean that we should
not try...

Jacques




Jacques


 Ryan L. Foster

801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

 From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual

theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I
can fix it. If I'm not available, someone else could
fix it, etc.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Ryan,

Your screen copies at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.

Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
taking any risks with it? Also I can't see any issues with having more
themes. The more we 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ryan Foster
+1.  I think that is a good start.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

 From: Bruno Busco bruno.bu...@gmail.com
 Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
 order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
 Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution of
 the other.
 Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
 existing just to avoid problems to users.
 My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime from
 the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by Ryan.
 Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in the
 themes repository.
 Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are doing.
 In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
 FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
 Multiflex).
 In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
 BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
 It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.
 -Bruno
 
 Sounds like a plan!
 
 Jacques
 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 inline...
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 Jacques,
 
 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.
 
 
 Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.
 
 At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over
 the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.
 
 
 That's really a good, very good news!
 
 As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good
 idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a
 new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration,
 etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.
 
 
 This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long
 as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?
 
 
 I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With
 Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
 included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
 that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
 there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
 release you can even search for new themes and install them
 automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
 fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
 these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
 handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
 there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact,
 there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
 community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.
 This furthers solidifies the base of support for the
 project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more
 than OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom
 development.
 
 
 This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is
 unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean that we should
 not try...
 
 Jacques
 
 
 
 Jacques
 
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:
 
 From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual
 theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
 get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I
 can fix it. If I'm not available, someone else could
 fix it, etc.
 
 -Adrian
 
 On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 
 Ryan,
 
 Your screen copies at
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
 looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...
 
 My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
 up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman

is there any thought to production servers.
or is this just a developers paradise


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Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
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Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com


Ryan Foster wrote:


inline...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:



Jacques,

I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme
anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.



Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over

the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a
much more active role in the community in the months and
years ahead.



That's really a good, very good news!

  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good

idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a
new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of
maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration,
etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
code.



This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long
as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
become committer), opinions?



I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With
Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
release you can even search for new themes and install them
automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact,
there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.
  This furthers solidifies the base of support for the
project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more
than OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom
development.



This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is
unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean that we should
not try...

Jacques




Jacques


  Ryan L. Foster

801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

  From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual

theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I
can fix it. If I'm not available, someone else could
fix it, etc.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Ryan,

Your screen copies at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman
how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes 
for their clients.



Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com


Ryan Foster wrote:


inline...

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:



Jacques,

I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme
anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.



Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of  the
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over

the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a
much more active role in the community in the months and
years ahead.



That's really a good, very good news!

  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good

idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once a
new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process of
maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration,
etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
code.



This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as long
as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
become committer), opinions?



I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.  With
Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
release you can even search for new themes and install them
automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact,
there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.
  This furthers solidifies the base of support for the
project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something more
than OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom
development.



This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is
unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean that we should
not try...

Jacques




Jacques


  Ryan L. Foster

801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

  From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual

theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something, I
can fix it. If I'm not available, someone else could
fix it, etc.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 6:02 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Ryan,

Your screen copies at
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4092
looks really great! Looking forward for the implementation...

My concerns are that maybe you will not have enough time later to keep
up with possible bugs or other issues. Look for instance what happened
to Bizzness Time https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2398.

Even if it looks a bit old, we have a theme which works great. Why
taking any 

[jira] Closed: (OFBIZ-4096) Error in order email confirmation template

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)

 [ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4096?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

Jacques Le Roux closed OFBIZ-4096.
--

Resolution: Fixed
  Assignee: Jacques Le Roux

Thanks Jeremy,

Your suggested change is in trunk at r1056072, R10.04 at r1056077.

I fixed the same at line 164

 Error in order email confirmation template
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 Key: OFBIZ-4096
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4096
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: specialpurpose/ecommerce
Affects Versions: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk
Reporter: Wickersheimer Jeremy
Assignee: Jacques Le Roux
 Fix For: Release Branch 10.04, SVN trunk


 In :
 {code:title=specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/order/orderheader.ftl:123|borderStyle=solid}
 #assign pmBillingAddress = creditCard.getRelatedOne(PostalAddress)
 {code}
 is missing the ?if_exists causing errors in some cases.

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2011-01-06 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a new failure of ofbiz-trunk on ASF Buildbot.
Full details are available at:
 http://ci.apache.org/builders/ofbiz-trunk/builds/1007

Buildbot URL: http://ci.apache.org/

Buildslave for this Build: isis_ubuntu

Build Reason: 
Build Source Stamp: [branch ofbiz/trunk] 1056092
Blamelist: mrisaliti

BUILD FAILED: failed compile

sincerely,
 -The Buildbot



Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Bruno Busco
I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.

What could be the issue?
We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey, Tomahawk,
Default and Multiflex).
We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes in
the Themes Gallery.

Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net

 how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes for
 their clients.



 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

 Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in

 order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
 Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution of
 the other.
 Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
 existing just to avoid problems to users.

 My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime from
 the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
 Ryan.
 Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
 the
 themes repository.
 Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are doing.

 In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
 FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
 Multiflex).
 In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
 BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
 It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

 -Bruno



 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

  Ryan Foster wrote:

  inline...

 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:


  Jacques,

 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.


 Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of
  the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over

 the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.


 That's really a good, very good news!

  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good

 idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once
 a
 new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process
 of
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration,
 etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.


 This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as
 long
 as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?


 I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.
  With
 Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
 included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
 that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
 there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
 release you can even search for new themes and install them
 automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
 fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
 these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
 handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
 there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact,
 there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
 community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.
  This furthers solidifies the base of support for the
 project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something
 more
 than OOTB but can't necessarily afford custom
 development.


 This makes good sense indeed. The only difference, I guess, is
 unfortunately the width of the audience. This does not mean that we
 should
 not try...

 Jacques



  Jacques


  Ryan L. Foster

 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

  From my perspective, I don't see much chance in the Flat Grey visual

 theme being abandoned. Enough people use it that it will
 get the attention it needs. If Ryan isn't available to fix something,
 I
 can fix it. If 

[jira] Created: (OFBIZ-4097) Removal of duplicates between pt and pt_BR labels in framework/common/config

2011-01-06 Thread JIRA
Removal of duplicates between pt and pt_BR labels in framework/common/config


 Key: OFBIZ-4097
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4097
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: ALL COMPONENTS
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
 Environment: Revision 1056083
Reporter: Luís Alfredo Harriss Maranesi
Priority: Trivial
 Fix For: SVN trunk


Removal of duplicates between pt and pt_BR labels in framework/common/config

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[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-4097) Removal of duplicates between pt and pt_BR labels in framework/common/config

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Luís Alfredo Harriss Maranesi updated OFBIZ-4097:
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Attachment: OFBIZ-4097_Common-duplicates-removal-pt-pt_BR.patch

Removal of duplicates between pt and pt_BR labels in framework/common/config

 Removal of duplicates between pt and pt_BR labels in framework/common/config
 

 Key: OFBIZ-4097
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4097
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: ALL COMPONENTS
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
 Environment: Revision 1056083
Reporter: Luís Alfredo Harriss Maranesi
Priority: Trivial
 Fix For: SVN trunk

 Attachments: OFBIZ-4097_Common-duplicates-removal-pt-pt_BR.patch


 Removal of duplicates between pt and pt_BR labels in framework/common/config

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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman

I have one that uses the flat grey as default
so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my 
customization disappear.


my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

those are just a few examples.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.

What could be the issue?
We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey, Tomahawk,
Default and Multiflex).
We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes in
the Themes Gallery.

Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net


how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes for
their clients.



Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:


Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in

order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

  Ryan Foster wrote:


  inline...


Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:



  Jacques,


I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my theme
anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.



Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one of
  the
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly over


the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking a
much more active role in the community in the months and
years ahead.



That's really a good, very good news!

  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a good


idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance once
a
new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process
of
maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates, collaboration,
etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
code.



This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts as
long
as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
become committer), opinions?



I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.
  With
Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
release you can even search for new themes and install them
automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In fact,
there are many individuals and companies in the Wordpress
community that make their living solely by selling themes and plugins.
  This furthers solidifies the base of support for the
project by offering a mid-tier option for someone who wants something
more
than OOTB but can't 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Bruno Busco
The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
No production servers should rely on trunk.

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net

 I have one that uses the flat grey as default
 so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my customization
 disappear.

 my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
 they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

 those are just a few examples.


 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

  I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.

 What could be the issue?
 We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
 Tomahawk,
 Default and Multiflex).
 We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes
 in
 the Themes Gallery.

 Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
 one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

 -Bruno

 2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net

  how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes
 for
 their clients.



 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

  Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in

 order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
 Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution
 of
 the other.
 Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
 existing just to avoid problems to users.

 My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime
 from
 the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
 Ryan.
 Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
 the
 themes repository.
 Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
 doing.

 In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
 FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
 Multiflex).
 In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
 BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
 It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

 -Bruno



 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

  Ryan Foster wrote:


  inline...


 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:


  Jacques,


 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
 theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.


  Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one
 of
  the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly
 over

  the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking
 a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.


  That's really a good, very good news!

  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a
 good

  idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance
 once
 a
 new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process
 of
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates,
 collaboration,
 etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.


  This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts
 as
 long
 as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?


  I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.
  With
 Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
 included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
 that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
 there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
 release you can even search for new themes and install them
 automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this way
 fosters wider community support by delegating maintenance of
 these themes to individual contributors rather than forcing it on a
 handful of committers and also allows developers to monetize
 there contributions by offering premium themes and plugins.  In
 fact,
 there are many individuals and 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ryan Foster
Agreed.  I don't know anyone that updates a production server directly from a 
development trunk, especially not a community driven open-source development 
trunk.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:

 The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
 No production servers should rely on trunk.
 
 -Bruno
 
 2011/1/6 BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net
 
 I have one that uses the flat grey as default
 so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my customization
 disappear.
 
 my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
 they will be removed. when the svn update is run.
 
 those are just a few examples.
 
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:
 
 I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.
 
 What could be the issue?
 We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
 Tomahawk,
 Default and Multiflex).
 We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes
 in
 the Themes Gallery.
 
 Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
 one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).
 
 -Bruno
 
 2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net
 
 how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes
 for
 their clients.
 
 
 
 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:
 
 Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
 
 order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
 Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution
 of
 the other.
 Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
 existing just to avoid problems to users.
 
 My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime
 from
 the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
 Ryan.
 Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
 the
 themes repository.
 Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
 doing.
 
 In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
 FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
 Multiflex).
 In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
 BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
 It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.
 
 -Bruno
 
 
 
 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 
 inline...
 
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 
 Jacques,
 
 
 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
 theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.
 
 
 Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one
 of
 the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.
 
 At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly
 over
 
 the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking
 a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.
 
 
 That's really a good, very good news!
 
 As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a
 good
 
 idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance
 once
 a
 new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process
 of
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates,
 collaboration,
 etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.
 
 
 This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts
 as
 long
 as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?
 
 
 I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.
 With
 Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
 included with the install, but there are literally thousands of themes
 that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
 there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
 release you can even search for new themes and install them
 automatically from inside your Wordpress install.  Doing it this 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Bruno Busco
As I said before, there are so many themes in the trunk right now just to
avoid troubles to users.
But we have seen that this is not a good way to manage themes in the long
time.
We need to break this chain now or we will have too many themes in the
trunk.

-Bruno

2011/1/6 Bruno Busco bruno.bu...@gmail.com

 The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
 No production servers should rely on trunk.


 -Bruno

 2011/1/6 BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net

 I have one that uses the flat grey as default
 so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my customization
 disappear.

 my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
 they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

 those are just a few examples.


 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

  I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.

 What could be the issue?
 We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
 Tomahawk,
 Default and Multiflex).
 We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes
 in
 the Themes Gallery.

 Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the
 OOTB,
 one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

 -Bruno

 2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net

  how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes
 for
 their clients.



 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

  Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in

 order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
 Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution
 of
 the other.
 Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
 existing just to avoid problems to users.

 My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime
 from
 the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
 Ryan.
 Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
 the
 themes repository.
 Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
 doing.

 In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend
 (Actual
 FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
 Multiflex).
 In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
 BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
 It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

 -Bruno



 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

  Ryan Foster wrote:


  inline...


 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:


  Jacques,


 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
 theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.


  Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one
 of
  the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly
 over

  the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking
 a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.


  That's really a good, very good news!

  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a
 good

  idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance
 once
 a
 new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the
 process
 of
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates,
 collaboration,
 etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.


  This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts
 as
 long
 as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?


  I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.
  With
 Wordpress, there is one official theme that is
 included with the install, but there are literally thousands of
 themes
 that are not maintained by Wordpress that they list on
 there site http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/, and now with the 3.0
 release you can even search for new themes and install them
 automatically from inside your Wordpress 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman

so there will not be any more releases based on the trunk?
I was speaking in the future when 11.04 or 12.04 happen.

it is the disregard of those that actually use this software instead of 
just enjoy developing it.


I am a developer second and a business man first.

basically you can add all you want but when you want to remove you must 
consider those that have counted on what was provided.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:33 PM:

The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
No production servers should rely on trunk.

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net


I have one that uses the flat grey as default
so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my customization
disappear.

my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

those are just a few examples.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

  I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.


What could be the issue?
We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
Tomahawk,
Default and Multiflex).
We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes
in
the Themes Gallery.

Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net

  how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes

for
their clients.



Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

  Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in


order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution
of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime
from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

  Ryan Foster wrote:



  inline...



Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:



  Jacques,



I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
theme
anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.


  Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one

of
  the
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly
over

  the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into

independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking
a
much more active role in the community in the months and
years ahead.


  That's really a good, very good news!


  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a
good

  idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that

individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance
once
a
new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process
of
maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates,
collaboration,
etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
code.


  This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts

as
long
as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
become committer), opinions?


  I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.

  With
Wordpress, there is one 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ryan Foster
Sorry, my last response sounded a bit arrogant after I re-read it.  My 
apologies to anyone who might actually be doing this.  I just personally feel 
like that is not a good idea.  Way too many unknown variables on a day to day 
basis.
 
Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Ryan Foster wrote:

 Agreed.  I don't know anyone that updates a production server directly from a 
 development trunk, especially not a community driven open-source development 
 trunk.
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Bruno Busco wrote:
 
 The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
 No production servers should rely on trunk.
 
 -Bruno
 
 2011/1/6 BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net
 
 I have one that uses the flat grey as default
 so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my customization
 disappear.
 
 my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
 they will be removed. when the svn update is run.
 
 those are just a few examples.
 
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:
 
 I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.
 
 What could be the issue?
 We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
 Tomahawk,
 Default and Multiflex).
 We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes
 in
 the Themes Gallery.
 
 Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
 one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).
 
 -Bruno
 
 2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net
 
 how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes
 for
 their clients.
 
 
 
 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:
 
 Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
 
 order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
 Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution
 of
 the other.
 Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
 existing just to avoid problems to users.
 
 My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime
 from
 the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
 Ryan.
 Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
 the
 themes repository.
 Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
 doing.
 
 In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
 FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
 Multiflex).
 In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
 BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
 It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.
 
 -Bruno
 
 
 
 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 
 inline...
 
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 
 Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 
 Jacques,
 
 
 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
 theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.
 
 
 Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one
 of
 the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.
 
 At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly
 over
 
 the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking
 a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.
 
 
 That's really a good, very good news!
 
 As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe it would be a
 good
 
 idea to have a theme repo outside of the trunk that
 individuals could commit to?  The problem with theme maintenance
 once
 a
 new theme has been added to the trunk is that not
 everyone has commit privileges to the trunk.  This makes the process
 of
 maintenance a lot more time consuming for individual
 contributors as they have to rely on patches, updates,
 collaboration,
 etc, rather than just monitoring and maintaining their own
 code.
 
 
 This could certainly be discussed as themes are no blocking parts
 as
 long
 as *at least one works perfectly* (another way is to
 become committer), opinions?
 
 
 I think the way that Magento and Wordpress do it are good examples.
 With
 Wordpress, there is 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ryan Foster
I completely agree with you BJ.  Considerations definitely have to be made when 
things are removed, especially if they are tied to the framework.  What is 
being discussed is whether to remove themes, which can be hot-deployed from 
being maintained in the trunk.  For future releases, all you would need to do 
is manually add your themes, custom or otherwise, to your production instance.  
If they are no longer tied in svn to the trunk, they would not be effected by 
any updates or releases.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:40 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

 so there will not be any more releases based on the trunk?
 I was speaking in the future when 11.04 or 12.04 happen.
 
 it is the disregard of those that actually use this software instead of just 
 enjoy developing it.
 
 I am a developer second and a business man first.
 
 basically you can add all you want but when you want to remove you must 
 consider those that have counted on what was provided.
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:33 PM:
 The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
 No production servers should rely on trunk.
 
 -Bruno
 
 2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net
 
 I have one that uses the flat grey as default
 so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my customization
 disappear.
 
 my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
 they will be removed. when the svn update is run.
 
 those are just a few examples.
 
 
 =
 BJ Freeman
 Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
 http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
 Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
 Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist
 
 Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man
 
 
 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:
 
  I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.
 
 What could be the issue?
 We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
 Tomahawk,
 Default and Multiflex).
 We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes
 in
 the Themes Gallery.
 
 Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
 one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).
 
 -Bruno
 
 2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net
 
  how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes
 for
 their clients.
 
 
 
 Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:
 
  Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in
 
 order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
 Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution
 of
 the other.
 Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
 existing just to avoid problems to users.
 
 My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime
 from
 the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
 Ryan.
 Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
 the
 themes repository.
 Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
 doing.
 
 In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
 FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
 Multiflex).
 In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
 BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
 It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.
 
 -Bruno
 
 
 
 2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
 
  Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 
  inline...
 
 
 Ryan L. Foster
 801.671.0769
 cont...@ryanlfoster.com
 
 On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
 
  Ryan Foster wrote:
 
 
  Jacques,
 
 
 I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
 themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
 BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
 theme
 anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
 was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
 build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
 and other members of the the OFBiz community.
 
 
  Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one
 of
  the
 fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
 at the beginning, my apologies.
 
  At any rate, my time issues and focus have shifted significantly
 over
 
  the last few months as I have left HotWax and gone into
 independent consulting and freelance development.  I plan on taking
 a
 much more active role in the community in the months and
 years ahead.
 
 
  That's really a good, very good news!
 
  As far as theme contributions go, I wonder if maybe 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman

so you will be glad to fund the effort to do that.
Time is money. and anything the effects the ROI needs to be considered, 
if the software is to be widely accepted.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:51 PM:

I completely agree with you BJ.  Considerations definitely have to be made when 
things are removed, especially if they are tied to the framework.  What is 
being discussed is whether to remove themes, which can be hot-deployed from 
being maintained in the trunk.  For future releases, all you would need to do 
is manually add your themes, custom or otherwise, to your production instance.  
If they are no longer tied in svn to the trunk, they would not be effected by 
any updates or releases.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:40 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


so there will not be any more releases based on the trunk?
I was speaking in the future when 11.04 or 12.04 happen.

it is the disregard of those that actually use this software instead of just 
enjoy developing it.

I am a developer second and a business man first.

basically you can add all you want but when you want to remove you must 
consider those that have counted on what was provided.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier 
Automationhttp://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:33 PM:

The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
No production servers should rely on trunk.

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net


I have one that uses the flat grey as default
so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my customization
disappear.

my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

those are just a few examples.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

  I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.


What could be the issue?
We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
Tomahawk,
Default and Multiflex).
We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional themes
in
the Themes Gallery.

Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of the OOTB,
one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net

  how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many themes

for
their clients.



Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

  Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally accepted in


order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the evolution
of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and BizznessTime
from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as suggested by
Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and put it in
the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend (Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery) start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

  Ryan Foster wrote:



  inline...



Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

  Ryan Foster wrote:



  Jacques,



I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts on the
themes has some valid points.  However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
theme
anyway.  I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative effort to
build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.


  Right, sorry for that Ryan. It's only because I know you were one

of
  the
fathers (the most important I guess) and helped much
at the beginning, my apologies.

  At any 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Adrian Crum
That can go both ways. If your deployments depends upon the visual 
themes being in the trunk, then perhaps you should fund their upkeep.


-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 2:58 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

so you will be glad to fund the effort to do that.
Time is money. and anything the effects the ROI needs to be considered,
if the software is to be widely accepted.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:51 PM:

I completely agree with you BJ. Considerations definitely have to be
made when things are removed, especially if they are tied to the
framework. What is being discussed is whether to remove themes, which
can be hot-deployed from being maintained in the trunk. For future
releases, all you would need to do is manually add your themes, custom
or otherwise, to your production instance. If they are no longer tied
in svn to the trunk, they would not be effected by any updates or
releases.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:40 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


so there will not be any more releases based on the trunk?
I was speaking in the future when 11.04 or 12.04 happen.

it is the disregard of those that actually use this software instead
of just enjoy developing it.

I am a developer second and a business man first.

basically you can add all you want but when you want to remove you
must consider those that have counted on what was provided.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier
Automationhttp://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52

Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:33 PM:

The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
No production servers should rely on trunk.

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net


I have one that uses the flat grey as default
so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my
customization
disappear.

my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

those are just a few examples.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.


What could be the issue?
We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
Tomahawk,
Default and Multiflex).
We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional
themes
in
the Themes Gallery.

Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of
the OOTB,
one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net

how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many
themes

for
their clients.



Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally
accepted in


order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the
evolution
of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing
the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and
BizznessTime
from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as
suggested by
Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and
put it in
the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys are
doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend
(Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default
and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery)
start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

Ryan Foster wrote:



inline...



Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Ryan Foster wrote:



Jacques,



I understand your concerns about support, and your thoughts
on the
themes has some valid points. However, in regards to the
BizznessTime theme, I never really intended for that to be my
theme
anyway. I always viewed it as a community theme as that
was it's original intent and it was truly a collaborative
effort to
build it between myself, my colleagues at HotWax, BrainFood,
and other members of the the OFBiz community.


Right, sorry for that 

Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman
Adrian i am sure as a business man you understand if it ain't broke 
don't fix it.
Now if you talking about new themes I can agree, but no one has proposed 
any or give an price.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation  
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com  http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat  Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/6/2011 3:23 PM:

That can go both ways. If your deployments depends upon the visual
themes being in the trunk, then perhaps you should fund their upkeep.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 2:58 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

so you will be glad to fund the effort to do that.
Time is money. and anything the effects the ROI needs to be considered,
if the software is to be widely accepted.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.com http://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:51 PM:

I completely agree with you BJ. Considerations definitely have to be
made when things are removed, especially if they are tied to the
framework. What is being discussed is whether to remove themes, which
can be hot-deployed from being maintained in the trunk. For future
releases, all you would need to do is manually add your themes, custom
or otherwise, to your production instance. If they are no longer tied
in svn to the trunk, they would not be effected by any updates or
releases.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:40 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


so there will not be any more releases based on the trunk?
I was speaking in the future when 11.04 or 12.04 happen.

it is the disregard of those that actually use this software instead
of just enjoy developing it.

I am a developer second and a business man first.

basically you can add all you want but when you want to remove you
must consider those that have counted on what was provided.

=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier
Automationhttp://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52


Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:33 PM:

The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
No production servers should rely on trunk.

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net


I have one that uses the flat grey as default
so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my
customization
disappear.

my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

those are just a few examples.


=
BJ Freeman
Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation
http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=52
Specialtymarket.comhttp://www.specialtymarket.com/
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist

Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man


Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.


What could be the issue?
We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
Tomahawk,
Default and Multiflex).
We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional
themes
in
the Themes Gallery.

Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of
the OOTB,
one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net

how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many
themes

for
their clients.



Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally
accepted in


order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the
evolution
of
the other.
Each time we decided to create a new theme instead of replacing
the one
existing just to avoid problems to users.

My proposal is to remove Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and
BizznessTime
from
the trunk and put them in a separate themes repository as
suggested by
Ryan.
Remove the actual version of the Flat Grey from the trunk and
put it in
the
themes repository.
Improve the Flat Grey theme in the trunk with the work you guys
are
doing.

In this way we will have in the trunk two themes for the backend
(Actual
FlatGrey and Tomahawk) and two themes for the ecommerce (Default
and
Multiflex).
In the themes repository there will be Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs,
BizznessTime and the actual FlatGrey.
It could be a nice start for the theme repository (and gallery)
start.

-Bruno



2011/1/6 Jacques Le Rouxjacques.le.r...@les7arts.com

Ryan Foster wrote:



inline...



Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:38 AM, 

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4090) Add Support For Compound Screen Widget XML Files

2011-01-06 Thread Paul Foxworthy (JIRA)

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 ] 

Paul Foxworthy commented on OFBIZ-4090:
---

Is it easy for you to post a screenshot showing the problem? I don't use 
Eclipse, so I can't see what you're seeing.

 Add Support For Compound Screen Widget XML Files
 

 Key: OFBIZ-4090
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4090
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Improvement
  Components: framework
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: Adrian Crum
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: CompoundWidgetFiles.patch, CompoundWidgetFiles.patch


 Add the ability to include screen widgets, form widgets, menu widgets, and 
 simple methods in a single XML file. This approach could be used in 
 situations where the widgets share a logical grouping - so they can be kept 
 in one place.

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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Ajay Lashkari
I think we should work on some animations and gif files. It should be added
in the existing theme. Because it will improve look and feel of the theme.
Also we should update our themes regularly so that we can compete with other
framework applications. I know it would not be easy but by using animations
we can express our ideas in effective manner.


Thanks  Regards,
Ajay Lashkari



On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The Flat Grey visual theme is getting old.

 The current version of the theme is based on the original look and feel of
 OFBiz when I first joined the community - back in 2004. Around the Spring of
 2007 I added some gradient gifs to make the original style a little more
 interesting.

 After that, the visual theme was converted to a floating flexible layout
 (to fit any size screen), it was made sight-impaired accessible (font size
 can be changed), and it added support for bi-directional layout (for rtl
 languages). Those design decisions were made by the OFBiz community and, in
 my opinion, continue to make the Flat Grey theme the fallback theme when all
 else fails. It just works.

 Despite its advantages, it looks dated. I would like to update it to make
 it more modern, but maintain its advantages over the other themes. I'm
 thinking it only needs css and gif file updates. The current templates and
 javascripts would be maintained.

 If anyone is interested, they are welcome to help out. I would also
 appreciate any suggestions or comments.

 Let me know what you think.

 -Adrian







[jira] Updated: (OFBIZ-4095) Catalog Help docbook files

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman (JIRA)

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https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4095?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 ]

BJ Freeman updated OFBIZ-4095:
--

Attachment: OFBIZ-4095porduct1.patch

first installment of help files for full documents.

 Catalog Help docbook files
 --

 Key: OFBIZ-4095
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4095
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: product
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: BJ Freeman
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: OFBIZ-4095porduct1.patch


 top sub task for products component.

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[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4095) Catalog Help docbook files

2011-01-06 Thread BJ Freeman (JIRA)

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BJ Freeman commented on OFBIZ-4095:
---

you can view
http://demo-trunk.businessesnetwork.com/cmssite/cms/APACHE_OFBIZ_HTML#ProductCatalogComponent


 Catalog Help docbook files
 --

 Key: OFBIZ-4095
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4095
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: product
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: BJ Freeman
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: OFBIZ-4095porduct1.patch


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Re: Discussion: Flat Grey Visual Theme

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux

OK, that was the reason I had some concerns. Let's discuss it seriously...

I think there are 2 ways to create a new themes from an existing one (a brand 
new one is not a problem).

Duplicate an OOTB existing one and peek an poke there (resourceValues in ThemeNameThemeData.xml are all refering to locations in 
this theme)

pros: independent from changes in the original theme (no pb if the theme 
dissapears, is changed for any reasons, etc.)
cons: independent from changes in the original theme (you can't benefit from 
bug fixes, improvements, enhancements, etc.)

Create a new theme by keeping references to an OOTB existing (some resourceValues in ThemeNameThemeData.xml are still refering to 
locations in this original theme)

As (almost) ever there are 2 faces to the coin, the pros and cons are reversed 
from above.

Which one are you using BJ? I guess the second. Else you would not have any 
concerns

Jacques

From: BJ Freeman bjf...@free-man.net

Adrian i am sure as a business man you understand if it ain't broke don't fix 
it.
Now if you talking about new themes I can agree, but no one has proposed any or 
give an price.

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Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/6/2011 3:23 PM:

That can go both ways. If your deployments depends upon the visual
themes being in the trunk, then perhaps you should fund their upkeep.

-Adrian

On 1/6/2011 2:58 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:

so you will be glad to fund the effort to do that.
Time is money. and anything the effects the ROI needs to be considered,
if the software is to be widely accepted.

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Ryan Foster sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:51 PM:

I completely agree with you BJ. Considerations definitely have to be
made when things are removed, especially if they are tied to the
framework. What is being discussed is whether to remove themes, which
can be hot-deployed from being maintained in the trunk. For future
releases, all you would need to do is manually add your themes, custom
or otherwise, to your production instance. If they are no longer tied
in svn to the trunk, they would not be effected by any updates or
releases.

Ryan L. Foster
801.671.0769
cont...@ryanlfoster.com

On Jan 6, 2011, at 3:40 PM, BJ Freeman wrote:


so there will not be any more releases based on the trunk?
I was speaking in the future when 11.04 or 12.04 happen.

it is the disregard of those that actually use this software instead
of just enjoy developing it.

I am a developer second and a business man first.

basically you can add all you want but when you want to remove you
must consider those that have counted on what was provided.

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Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:33 PM:

The theme will still be present in the 10.04 releases.
No production servers should rely on trunk.

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net


I have one that uses the flat grey as default
so if I do an update from the svn the flat grey will and my
customization
disappear.

my sas uses all those in the themes, with my modification.
they will be removed. when the svn update is run.

those are just a few examples.


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Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 2:00 PM:

I am sorry, BJ, I do not see your point.


What could be the issue?
We will have less themes to maintain in the trunk (just Flat Grey,
Tomahawk,
Default and Multiflex).
We will have more people that will be able to maintain additional
themes
in
the Themes Gallery.

Production servers will have each one its selected theme (one of
the OOTB,
one of the Themes Gallery or a customized version of them).

-Bruno

2011/1/6 BJ Freemanbjf...@free-man.net

how about those that are using ofbiz for SAS and will have many
themes

for
their clients.



Bruno Busco sent the following on 1/6/2011 12:51 PM:

Yes, having more than one theme in the trunk was originally
accepted in


order to use and show the visual theme selection feature OOTB.
Actually Bluelight, Dropping Crumbs and Tomahawk are one the
evolution

[jira] Commented: (OFBIZ-4095) Catalog Help docbook files

2011-01-06 Thread Jacques Le Roux (JIRA)

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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-4095:


Thanks BJ,

Your patch is in trunk at r1056212  

Fill free to close if you have no more patches for this issue

 Catalog Help docbook files
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 Key: OFBIZ-4095
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4095
 Project: OFBiz
  Issue Type: Sub-task
  Components: product
Affects Versions: SVN trunk
Reporter: BJ Freeman
Priority: Minor
 Attachments: OFBIZ-4095porduct1.patch


 top sub task for products component.

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