Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Peter Junge

On 7/15/2013 10:30 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Regina Henschel
rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:


[...]



And my translation:
I have deleted two OO-Config Folder in AppData\Roaming which I missed in my
first attempt.
- AppData\Roaming\3 of the previously deinstalled AOO341
- AppData\Roaming\4 of the parallel installed AOO400-Snapshots.
- And the installation folders in \Program File(x86)
I had deinstalled/deleted AOO341 and AOO400-Snapshot already before
RC-Installation.
I assume, that an Average Joe user has not installed a snapshot previously
and therefore no config folder \4 exists.
Up to now I have always installed the full versions over my old versions,
and never got problems (or never notice some.)



I'll do some testing tonight.  I have two clean VM images, for
Windows 8 32-bit and Windows 7 64-bit, that I can install the AOO 4.0
RC on.  Since these are fresh images they don't have any residual
files from previous AOO installs.



I was not able to get a crash with AOO 4.0 RC on Windows 7 64-bit or
Windows 8 32-bit.

I tested Writer in a document with a mix of objects and formats, doing
a lot of editing, formatting, copy/paste and delete operations,
including formatting via the Sidepanel.

This was the en-US version.

So this doesn't look like a shallow crash that everyone will see.
But it would be good to narrow it down.For example, has anyone
seen it on a non-German version?  Is that a clue?  Is a particular
object involved?  I tried also with images, drawings, lists, tables,
etc.  Was anything more exotic involved?


While I was a QA engineer for OpenOffice at Sun, we had:
++ Crashes that were limited to a particular language
++ Crashes that happened only (exactly) once with every installation.
++ Crashes that happened only after the first start of an installation
++ Of course, crashes that were limited to a particular language
++ ...

Now imagine even a combination of two or more of those preconditions and 
you may prefer looking for a needle in a haystack.


Virtualbox for example has the great feature of taking snapshots. That 
should be extremely useful to be able to rollback preconditions.


Peter



Mine was a clean new install, not an update.  But it is hard to
imagine a scenario where copy or delete operations behave differently
depending on whether the install was an update or not.

-Rob



-Rob




Kind regards
Regina




Kind regards
Regina



   - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:


Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/14/13 10:05 AM, Michal Hriň wrote:
 Dňa Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:42:03 +0200 Juergen Schmidt
 jogischm...@gmail.com napísal:
 
 Am Sonntag, 14. Juli 2013 um 06:35 schrieb imacat:
 On 2013/07/13 20:52, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
  On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 12:20:32PM +0200, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
   Am 07/13/2013 05:14 AM, schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile:
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM,
 imacatima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 Sorry. I did not see Traditional Chinese version. Did I missed
 something on the Traditional Chinese version?

   
   
UI translation is not complete:
 https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/
  
   I can see that 97% is translated. Not that bad. Do we have an
   agreement that we need 100% for a release?
  
 
 
  http://markmail.org/message/pxgvjuw2j3ukqsom
 
  Concerns should have been risen at that time, it was discussed on the
  mailing list, and properly tagged (if it does not happen on the
 mailing
  list...).
 
 
   I'm asking because I really don't know it and in former OOo times we
   have done releases for languages with at least 80% translated UI
   [1]. So, maybe a change that I haven't seen in the last weeks.
  
 
 
  For this particular case, the translation of the main 4.0.0 feature is
  incomplete
 https://translate.apache.org/zh_TW/aoo40/svx/source/sidebar/
  How serious would it be to release this translation in such a
 state? The
  same applies to other languages released in 3.4.* but not in this
 4.0.0
  RC.
 


 Hmm... I see the problem with side bar translation. And I'm very
 sorry that I was in my research paper and did not notice the previous
 discussion. However, there are several issues of concern:

 1. I am going to give a talk in our largest local open source
 conference (COSCUP 2013, http://coscup.org/) on 8/3, and plan to
 announce OpenOffice 4.0. It is the first talk after the key notes. It
 would be very embarrassing to announce it without a local version
 released.

 2. There would be a large-scale deployment around August or September
 (6000-7000) in a government department, and they are planning to join
 our development force in order to fix some Chinese problems in
 governmental use. If OpenOffice 4.0 Traditional Chinese version is not
 available at that time, we could only give them 3.4.1, which their
 development could not be based on.

 I've asked our local community to help the translation in urgent.
 If we can finish the Traditional Chinese sidebar translation with
 certain amount, could it be OK to release it?

 let translate the UI First and then we can figure out what's possible.
 Hopefully some other languages can continue the translation as well
 and we can think about a language only release where I am a big fan of
 to support local communities.

 But in general we have discussed it and I would have not released
 German (my mother language) if the UI translation would have been not
 complete.
 Just to make sure that we need active local communities who
 participate in the project or at least in the translation part.

 
 Hi Juergen,
 
 Yust today German translation is done.

I know this, it was an example only. If not complete I would not have
released it

 I and French community made some
 changes
 in translations.
 Did you think about rebuilding some (sk, fr, de maybe cn) binaries ?
 

no, the whole process takes time and these of course useful improvements
will go in the next version.

I recommend to create a new issue for translation updates. Otherwise it
is hard to track that something has changed.

Juergen


 - Michal Hriň
 
 It would be even better if the help would be translated as well but
 that is a much higher burden and we are more flexible here.

 Juergen

 
 
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[DISCUSS] [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/14/13 11:31 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
 -1 We can't release a version with a potential crash in selection
 copy/paste on windows 64 bit versions.

it is your right to vote as you want and what your personal opinion is.
 But as I mentioned earlier it would help us if concerns are more
detailed and more qualified that we can take it serious.

I can only guess that you mean the problem regarding Windows 8 64 bit
and here several people tried to reproduce the issue but nobody was able
to reproduce.

For me there is no copy/paste problem at the moment with the RC.

Juergen



 
 Am 12.07.13 11:11, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.

 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot


 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

 UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
 [ ]  0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

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Re: [DISCUSS] New localization requirements policy needed for releases

2013-07-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 14/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

In this specific case, for AOO 4.0,  I'm suggesting we release any
additional languages that are 100% on September 16th.  This is similar
to what we did for AOO 3.4.1.  After that date I think we then wait
for AOO 4.1.


Releasing a new language should be rather easy and repeatable, so it is 
something that we can do once a month (but I can understand that August 
may be problematic due to holidays).


Ideally, we should have a monthly update, say around mid-month, where we:

1) Release new languages (of course, based on the same code revision as 
4.0, exactly as done for 3.4.1) that have reached 100% UI translation.


2) Formally unrelated to #1, we make (unreleased) dev snapshots 
available of languages that have UI at 75-99%.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [DISCUSS] New localization requirements policy needed for releases

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/15/13 9:04 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 On 14/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
 In this specific case, for AOO 4.0,  I'm suggesting we release any
 additional languages that are 100% on September 16th.  This is similar
 to what we did for AOO 3.4.1.  After that date I think we then wait
 for AOO 4.1.
 
 Releasing a new language should be rather easy and repeatable, so it is
 something that we can do once a month (but I can understand that August
 may be problematic due to holidays).
 
 Ideally, we should have a monthly update, say around mid-month, where we:
 
 1) Release new languages (of course, based on the same code revision as
 4.0, exactly as done for 3.4.1) that have reached 100% UI translation.
 
 2) Formally unrelated to #1, we make (unreleased) dev snapshots
 available of languages that have UI at 75-99%.

People should work on a reliable build bot infra structure that can
provide builds for all major platforms (Linux, Windows, MacOS). And then
we can configure more languages on demand.

I will be not the manual build bot ;-)

Proposing is fine but please think also about the realization.

Juergen

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Re: [DISCUSS] New localization requirements policy needed for releases

2013-07-15 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 15.07.2013 09:19, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 7/15/13 9:04 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 14/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

In this specific case, for AOO 4.0,  I'm suggesting we release any
additional languages that are 100% on September 16th.  This is similar
to what we did for AOO 3.4.1.  After that date I think we then wait
for AOO 4.1.


Releasing a new language should be rather easy and repeatable, so it is
something that we can do once a month (but I can understand that August
may be problematic due to holidays).

Ideally, we should have a monthly update, say around mid-month, where we:

1) Release new languages (of course, based on the same code revision as
4.0, exactly as done for 3.4.1) that have reached 100% UI translation.

2) Formally unrelated to #1, we make (unreleased) dev snapshots
available of languages that have UI at 75-99%.


People should work on a reliable build bot infra structure that can
provide builds for all major platforms (Linux, Windows, MacOS). And then
we can configure more languages on demand.


Currently the Windows buildbot of the SNAPSHOT tag does a weekly full 
build of all languages:

  http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#winsnap
Is any fully translated language missing from that list? Should 
semi-translated languages be built too?


Yes, we should build all languages on all other platforms too. But we 
don't have a Mac buildbot yet and until the build baseline is increased 
to XCode4 that will probably have to stay so. On the Linux64 things look 
much better but disk space on that buildbot used to be a problem. The 
Linux32 buildbot needs to be set up, but from a localization perspective 
its build result it is indistinguishable from the Linux64 build.


Also FreeBSD buildbot would be possible, but AFAIK Maho is working on a 
tinderbox build there, so setting up a buildbot would probably be wasted 
work. Also getting buildbots for OS/2 or Solaris X86 or Sparc just for 
the localized snapshot builds is probably wasted work unless there is a 
number of translators that only test on these platforms.


Herbert


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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.

-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer 
and then copy it.


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
Regina

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Mac release

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

Hi,

Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system 
complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the 
Apple app store.  As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release 
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.


I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release 
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible 
place, like the download button for the Mac version.  Does anybody know 
if that is possible?


-Andre


[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.


OK, that was not very clear :-)

The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.



-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer 
and then copy it.


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 12/07/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. ...
[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0

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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
continue the success of OpenOffice.

[..]


Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


There a some errors in the German translations (already fixed on 
Pootle), but not so severe to not release German version.


Nobody could reproduce the crash.

So all together my vote:
+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0

Kind regards
Regina


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4.0.0_release_blocker denied: [Bug 122733] Opening Hybrid PDF document fails, brings up ASCII filter options dialog

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has denied Rainer Bielefeld
rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de's request for
4.0.0_release_blocker:
Bug 122733: Opening Hybrid PDF document fails, brings up ASCII filter options
dialog
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122733


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
no showstopper, but a feature request to make the hybrid PDF reading
independent of the PDF import extensions

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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Shenfeng Liu
No release blocking issues found according to my testing in Windows 7.
Feel a little pity that 2 of my opened defects not fixed in 4.0. But I
believe it is more important to deliver 4.0 with so many valuable features
ASAP. And we can keep continuous delivery to have more enhancement step by
step after 4.0.
So:

+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0


- Shenfeng (Simon)



2013/7/12 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
 .
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:


 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
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[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

Hi,

I downloaded the source release candidate, verified the MD5 and SHA256 
checksums, and built it on Windows 7.  All without problems. Therefore:


+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0


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4.0.0_release_blocker denied: [Bug 121754] Build HSQLDB with JDK 7

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla
j...@apache.org has denied  4.0.0_release_blocker:
Bug 121754: Build HSQLDB with JDK 7
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121754


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
remove showstopper request because we currently build our release not with Java
7

For 4.1 I propose to switch completely to Java 7 and change our build
dependencies accordingly.

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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.
 
 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:
 
 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
 
 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues
 
 (3) 600 defects are fixed
 
 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
 
 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...
 
 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
 
 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
 
 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
 
 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
 
 The vote starts now and will be open until:
 
UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
 
 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.
 
[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 

+1 for releasing this RC as AOO 4.0

I have made many tests on my own, including a complete build of the src
release under MacOS and verifying the signature etc.

We can always do better and can fix more bugs but the overall situation
will not change. It will be always the same.

Please continue to verify translations and improve it, it's not wasted
time. These improvements will go in the next release. The same for the
new file type and application icons. We should continue the good work
and should integrate it asap on trunk.

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[RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



Thanks

Juergen



On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.
 
 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:
 
 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
 
 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues
 
 (3) 600 defects are fixed
 
 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
 
 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...
 
 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
 
 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
 
 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
 
 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
 
 The vote starts now and will be open until:
 
UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
 
 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.
 
[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 


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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
 
 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
 
 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
 
 Vote tally
 
 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
 +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
 +1 Shengfeng Liu
 +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
 +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
 +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
 
 0 Michal Hriň
 
 -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
 
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Juergen
 
 
 
 On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

 


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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
 of infra... I will keep you informed


Is this something special for AOO that we need to get permission from
Infra to upload?  Is this because of the size of the release?

-Rob


 Juergen

 On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

 Vote tally

 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
 +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
 +1 Shengfeng Liu
 +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
 +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
 +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

 0 Michal Hriň

 -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



 Thanks

 Juergen



 On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...




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Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
completed.  The release is approved.

However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
including:

1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution directories

2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
much as 24 hours)

3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.

4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
for translations.

5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.

The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
we have a few other items to do:

5. Update logos on social media sites

6. Enable update notification server

7. Follow up blog post +1 week.

I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
then.  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
to go.

Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
the press coverage.

We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these items:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/15/13 4:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
 of infra... I will keep you informed

 
 Is this something special for AOO that we need to get permission from
 Infra to upload?  Is this because of the size of the release?

They wanted to be informed that is at least what I learned from earlier
releases. And yes I believe it is the amount of 22 GB. I informed infra
on Friday that we are planning a release and that the vote will be
finished today. We will see.

Juergen

 
 -Rob
 
 
 Juergen

 On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

 Vote tally

 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
 +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
 +1 Shengfeng Liu
 +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
 +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
 +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

 0 Michal Hriň

 -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



 Thanks

 Juergen



 On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...




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Sidebar meta issue is closed

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

Hi,

the development of the sidebar is finished and the vote for our release 
is over.  Therefore I have closed the sidebar meta issue: bug 121420 now 
has status resolved/fixed.


I would like to thank everybody who has helped to make this happen.  A 
lot of people have contributed including, but not limited to, UX design, 
programming, testing, translation, documentation and discussion 
(providing new ideas).


I think that we did a great job.

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Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour
I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours ago.

The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)

Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
me.

Here is the bug I opened,
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752

Samer


Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/7/14 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
  Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
  OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
  continue the success of OpenOffice.
 
  This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
  to former OpenOffice releases:
 
  (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
  where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
  reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
  existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
  Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
 
  (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
  interoperability issues
 
  (3) 600 defects are fixed
 
  (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
 
  For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
  .
  But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
  updated and polished ...
 
  The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
  releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
  review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
 
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
 
  The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
 
  The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
 
  Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
 
  The vote starts now and will be open until:
 
 UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
 
  But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
  to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
  members.
 
 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
 [ ]  0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 

 +1

 good job!!


+1 well said





 
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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt
 From: The weird writer [mailto:weirdwriter9...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:41 AM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: autocorrect macro?
 
 that Macro does not work with windows. :(

I do not know why, because the macro is for all operating systems under which 
OO runs suitable (e.g. Windows, Linux, MacOS).

*What error message occurs?*



Greetings,
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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours ago.

 The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
 think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)

 Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
 using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
 me.


There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
content.

But you are saying it is cut not copy.  I can try that.

Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?

-Rob


 Here is the bug I opened,
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752

 Samer

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Re: Mac release

2013-07-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
 complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the Apple
 app store.  As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release notes for
 AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.


We should add this again to Release Notes for 4.0.0 and Install Guide.


 I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
 notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
 I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
 place, like the download button for the Mac version.  Does anybody know if
 that is possible?


I'm not sure about this one. This happens as soon as correct download is
identified by the Download page?



 -Andre


 [1] 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732

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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour
I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours
 ago.
 
  The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
  think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
 
  Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
  using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
  me.
 

 There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
 a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
 but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
 Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
 content.

 But you are saying it is cut not copy.  I can try that.

 Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?

 -Rob


  Here is the bug I opened,
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
 
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[Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
describing the problem, so I filled this one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

It seems quite serious. What do you think?

Regards
Ricardo


Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour
I have opened a new bug, with the version from about in the comments,
please let me know if this is still the same bug.
I did a upgrade from 3.4.1 to 4.0.0. Hiding the side panel did not affect
outcome.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote:

 On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

 On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


 Hello Dennis,

 it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click
 it and click copy, i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to copy
 by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't
 happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


 This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have introduced
 (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or removing
 selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for this bug
 introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in on July 8th):

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=121479https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122682https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

 And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.


 OK, that was not very clear :-)

 The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.



 -Andre


 Max


 Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

 I don't quite understand what this means: mark something in Writer and
 then copy it.

 Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
 clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

 I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

   - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
 To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: Regina Henschel
 Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

 Hi Regina,

 I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
 next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
 what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

 Max


 Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

 Hi all,

 there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
 something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
 The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
 then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

 Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
 Windows 8.

 Kind regards
 Regina

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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Reizinger Zoltán

2013.07.15. 16:55 keltezéssel, Ricardo Berlasso írta:

A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
describing the problem, so I filled this one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

Not attached the example file, which caused the problem.
Zoltan


It seems quite serious. What do you think?

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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/7/15 Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.hu

 2013.07.15. 16:55 keltezéssel, Ricardo Berlasso írta:

  A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
 candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
 pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
 describing the problem, so I filled this one:

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122753https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

 Not attached the example file, which caused the problem.
 Zoltan


Sorry, bugzilla stripped the file without warning when I sent the report...
I tried again and it seems too large so I uploaded it here:

http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/rotation.odg

I added the link on the report.

Regards
Ricardo





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Re: Mac release

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?

-Andre


[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732


It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of 
platform X. This would make the index.html more unreadable than it is 
already.


Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of 
course, it's still intermediate):


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.

Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Ricardo,

Ricardo Berlasso schrieb:

A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
describing the problem, so I filled this one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

It seems quite serious. What do you think?


That the Bitmap is not inserted is likely a problem with the cache. Set 
the value in Tools  Options  Memory to for example 12MB Memory per object.


The bad display of the rotated jpg-picture might be a moire effect. 
Please zoom in and see, whether it remains. You might test to switch 
on/off anti-aliasing in addition. I do not see such effect on my screen.


Kind regards
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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/7/15 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de

 Hi Ricardo,

 Ricardo Berlasso schrieb:

  A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
 candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
 pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
 describing the problem, so I filled this one:

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122753https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

 It seems quite serious. What do you think?


 That the Bitmap is not inserted is likely a problem with the cache. Set
 the value in Tools  Options  Memory to for example 12MB Memory per object.

 The bad display of the rotated jpg-picture might be a moire effect. Please
 zoom in and see, whether it remains. You might test to switch on/off
 anti-aliasing in addition. I do not see such effect on my screen.


It's not just a bad display: it is exported to pdf

http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/rotation.pdf

But I just see a weird behaviour: Reopening the document, rotation works
without problems on the fox picture, but if I copy the fox picture → paste
special as bitmap → get the empty box → rotation fails again on the
original picture.

Increasing the memory per object does not change this behaviour.

Regards
Ricardo



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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.

dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source- contains the src release +
signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  - contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  - contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen


On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
 of infra... I will keep you informed
 
 Juergen
 
 On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

 Vote tally

 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
 +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
 +1 Shengfeng Liu
 +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
 +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
 +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

 0 Michal Hriň

 -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



 Thanks

 Juergen



 On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


 


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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread The weird writer

when I try i get a weird error. extract faied 42

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Re: Mac release

2013-07-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:

 Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

  Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
 complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
 Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
 notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

 I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
 notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
 I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
 place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
 if that is possible?

 -Andre


 [1] 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732


 It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
 platform X. This would make the index.html more unreadable than it is
 already.

 Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
 course, it's still intermediate):

 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

 1) Directly in the main green box.
 2) In a second sub-green box.

 Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

 Marcus

 1) is better.


maybe change wording to Click here for known installation issues

I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
on highlighting installation.

 I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.


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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/15/13 4:54 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 Am 07/15/2013 04:11 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
 As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
 completed.  The release is approved.

 However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
 We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
 including:

 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
 directories

 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
 much as 24 hours)

 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.

 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
 for translations.

 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.

 The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
 we have a few other items to do:

 5. Update logos on social media sites

 6. Enable update notification server

 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.

 I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
 Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
 then.  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
 But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
 to go.
 
 When Juergen is allowed to upload the release until ~20:00 UTC today,
 then the files can be distributed around the mirrors and I should be
 able to update the DL websites tomorrow evening to be ready until
 Wednesday noon UTC.

files are uploaded, see my reply in the RESULT thread... I put Roberto in cc

Juergen

 
 For the moment it looks like as it could be possible.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
 Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
 is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
 at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
 the press coverage.

 We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
 items:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard


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 -Rob
 
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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
 completed.  The release is approved.

 However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
 We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
 including:

 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
 directories

 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
 much as 24 hours)

 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.

 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
 for translations.


Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?


 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.

 The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
 we have a few other items to do:

 5. Update logos on social media sites

 6. Enable update notification server

 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.

 I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
 Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
 then.


OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation


  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
 But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
 to go.

 Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
 is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
 at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
 the press coverage.

 We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
 items:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard

 Regards,

 -Rob

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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Donald Whytock
Will the new distributor page be opened up in conjunction with the new
release?

Don


Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
 completed.  The release is approved.

 However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
 We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
 including:

 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
 directories

 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
 much as 24 hours)

 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.

 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
 for translations.


 Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?


Personally, I think that is a pain in the ass to convert the wiki
Release Notes to HTML.  Remember, our goal has been to make the
Release Notes nicer, with more graphics, etc.  So this is going to
make conversion more difficult.  But if someone really wants to do
that, then I have no objections.

-Rob



 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.

 The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
 we have a few other items to do:

 5. Update logos on social media sites

 6. Enable update notification server

 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.

 I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
 Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
 then.


 OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation


  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
 But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
 to go.

 Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
 is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
 at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
 the press coverage.

 We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
 items:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard

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 -Rob

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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote:
 Will the new distributor page be opened up in conjunction with the new
 release?


We're not ready on the CD distributor thing, if that is what you are
referring to.  But good reminder that this is still an open task.

-Rob


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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 06:08 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

Hi,

the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.


is this due to the size of the release?


dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-  contains the src release +
signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -  contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  -  contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes


I think this will lead to a different URL than I've used for testing. 
Let's see what this will mean for the DL websites. Seems it's the best 
to wait and see what will happen on SourceForge to continue any testing.



A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt


The binaries are in www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/... 
and also in 
www.apache.org/dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/ Any 
reason for this duplication?


Marcus




rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen


On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



Thanks

Juergen



On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
continue the success of OpenOffice.

This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
to former OpenOffice releases:

(1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

(2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
interoperability issues

(3) 600 defects are fixed

(4) many more features and improvements are integrated

For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
updated and polished ...

The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...








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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/7/15 Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com

 2013/7/15 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de

 Hi Ricardo,

 Ricardo Berlasso schrieb:

  A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
 candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
 pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
 describing the problem, so I filled this one:

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122753https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

 It seems quite serious. What do you think?


 That the Bitmap is not inserted is likely a problem with the cache. Set
 the value in Tools  Options  Memory to for example 12MB Memory per object.

 The bad display of the rotated jpg-picture might be a moire effect.
 Please zoom in and see, whether it remains. You might test to switch on/off
 anti-aliasing in addition. I do not see such effect on my screen.


 It's not just a bad display: it is exported to pdf

 http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/rotation.pdf

 But I just see a weird behaviour: Reopening the document, rotation works
 without problems on the fox picture, but if I copy the fox picture → paste
 special as bitmap → get the empty box → rotation fails again on the
 original picture.

 Increasing the memory per object does not change this behaviour.


I added two new attachments to the issue, one an odg file with the
corrupted image and its source, the other the pdf export.

Regards
Ricardo




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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
 binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
 special directory for Sourceforge.



There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/)   But
the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.

Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?

Roberto



 dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source- contains the src release +
 signatures/checksum/hashes

 dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  - contains the
 signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
 the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

 dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  - contains all the
 binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

 A complete file list can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

 If you have further questions please let me know.

 Juergen


 On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
  of infra... I will keep you informed
 
  Juergen
 
  On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
  revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
 
  The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
  member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
  were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
 
  3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
  closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
 
  Vote tally
 
  +1 Sylvain Dennis
  +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
  +1 Fr web forum
  +1 V Stuart Foote
  +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
  +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
  +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
  +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
  +1 Rob Weir (binding)
  +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
  +1 Joost Andrae
  +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
  +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
  +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
  +1 Shengfeng Liu
  +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
  +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
  +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
 
  0 Michal Hriň
 
  -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
 
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Juergen
 
 
 
  On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
  Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
  OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
  continue the success of OpenOffice.
 
  This release candidate provides the following important changes
 compared
  to former OpenOffice releases:
 
  (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
  where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination
 of
  reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
  existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
  Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
 
  (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
  interoperability issues
 
  (3) 600 defects are fixed
 
  (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
 
  For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
 .
  But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
  updated and polished ...
 
  The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
  releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
  review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
 
  The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
 
  The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
 
  Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
 
  The vote starts now and will be open until:
 
 UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
 
  But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would
 like
  to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
  members.
 
 [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
 [ ]  0 Don't care
 [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
 
 
 


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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
  completed.  The release is approved.
 
  However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
  We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
  including:
 
  1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
  directories
 
  2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
  much as 24 hours)
 
  3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
 
  4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
  for translations.
 
 
  Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?
 

 Personally, I think that is a pain in the ass to convert the wiki
 Release Notes to HTML.  Remember, our goal has been to make the
 Release Notes nicer, with more graphics, etc.  So this is going to
 make conversion more difficult.  But if someone really wants to do
 that, then I have no objections.

 -Rob


Given our past thread on this, I didn't know what the decision was.

For now, we will link to the Community wiki area I guess, and deal with
other issues on this matter later.



 
  5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
 
  The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
  we have a few other items to do:
 
  5. Update logos on social media sites
 
  6. Enable update notification server
 
  7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
 
  I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
  Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
  then.
 
 
  OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation
 
 
   Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
  But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
  to go.
 
  Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
  is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
  at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
  the press coverage.
 
  We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
  items:
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
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Re: Mac release

2013-07-15 Thread Andre Fischer

On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:


Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

  Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system

complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?

-Andre


[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732


It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
platform X. This would make the index.html more unreadable than it is
already.

Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
course, it's still intermediate):

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.

Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

Marcus

1) is better.


I like 1 better, too.  But it still looks too prominent.  We don't want 
to scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem).  
Maybe an explanation in the release notes is enough.



maybe change wording to Click here for known installation issues

I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
on highlighting installation.

  I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.


Great thanks.





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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com


Hi,

the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.




There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/)   But
the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.


I've created them for testing purpose only.


Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?


I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the 
Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?


Marcus




dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-  contains the src release +
signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -  contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  -  contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen


On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



Thanks

Juergen



On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
continue the success of OpenOffice.

This release candidate provides the following important changes

compared

to former OpenOffice releases:

(1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination

of

reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

(2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
interoperability issues

(3) 600 defects are fixed

(4) many more features and improvements are integrated

For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
.

But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
updated and polished ...

The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:



https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot


The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would

like

to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
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Re: Mac release

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 06:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de  wrote:


Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

  Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system

complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?

-Andre


[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732



It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
platform X. This would make the index.html more unreadable than it is
already.

Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
course, it's still intermediate):

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.htmlhttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.

Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

Marcus

1) is better.



maybe change wording to Click here for known installation issues


Sure, the wording is always changeable.


I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
on highlighting installation.


Actually I wanted to create a TOC for the release notes. However, it's 
still locked by Herbert or Andre. Then we will have the headlines as 
links and I can use the Kniwn Issues as jump label in the URL.



  I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.


That's good.

Marcus

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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
  As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
  completed.  The release is approved.
 
  However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
  We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
  including:
 
  1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
  directories
 
  2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
  much as 24 hours)
 
  3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
 
  4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
  for translations.
 
 
  Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?
 

 Personally, I think that is a pain in the ass to convert the wiki
 Release Notes to HTML.  Remember, our goal has been to make the
 Release Notes nicer, with more graphics, etc.  So this is going to
 make conversion more difficult.  But if someone really wants to do
 that, then I have no objections.

 -Rob


 Given our past thread on this, I didn't know what the decision was.


My takeaway was there were concerns with having uncontrolled changes
to the Release Notes.   But if we like the wiki as a technology there
are ways of handling this.  For example, we could link to a specific
revision of the wiki page from the download page.  That allows us to
be constant by default, but preserves flexibility to update it later
if needed.

-Rob

 For now, we will link to the Community wiki area I guess, and deal with
 other issues on this matter later.



 
  5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
 
  The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
  we have a few other items to do:
 
  5. Update logos on social media sites
 
  6. Enable update notification server
 
  7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
 
  I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
  Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
  then.
 
 
  OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation
 
 
   Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
  But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
  to go.
 
  Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
  is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
  at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
  the press coverage.
 
  We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
  items:
 
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

  2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com

  Hi,

 the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
 binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
 special directory for Sourceforge.



 There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
 https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/)
   But
 the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
 https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
 Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.


 I've created them for testing purpose only.


  Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?


 I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
 Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?


Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.

Thanks





 Marcus




  dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-  contains the src release +
 signatures/checksum/hashes

 dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -  contains the
 signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
 the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

 dist/externaldist/openoffice/**4.0.0/binaries  -  contains all the
 binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

 A complete file list can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external

 If you have further questions please let me know.

 Juergen


 On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
 of infra... I will keep you informed

 Juergen

 On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

 Vote tally

 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
 +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
 +1 Shengfeng Liu
 +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
 +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
 +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

 0 Michal Hriň

 -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



 Thanks

 Juergen



 On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate
 as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes

 compared

 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination

 of

 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from
 the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under

  https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
 AOO+4.0+Release+Noteshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
 .

 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:


  https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
 Development+Snapshot+Builds#**DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-**AOOSnapshothttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot


 The related RAT scan for this RC can be 

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/7/15 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com




 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

  2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com

  Hi,

 the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
 binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
 special directory for Sourceforge.



 There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
 https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/)
   But
 the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
 https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
 Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.


 I've created them for testing purpose only.


  Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?


 I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
 Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?


 Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
 from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.


I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
(rsync.apache.org::apache-dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
and we can't rsync files from there.

Roberto




 Thanks





 Marcus




  dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-  contains the src release +
 signatures/checksum/hashes

 dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -  contains the
 signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
 the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

 dist/externaldist/openoffice/**4.0.0/binaries  -  contains all the
 binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

 A complete file list can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external

 If you have further questions please let me know.

 Juergen


 On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
 of infra... I will keep you informed

 Juergen

 On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
 ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

 Vote tally

 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
 +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
 +1 Shengfeng Liu
 +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
 +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
 +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

 0 Michal Hriň

 -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



 Thanks

 Juergen



 On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate
 as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes

 compared

  to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar
 concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination

 of

  reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from
 the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under

  https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
 AOO+4.0+Release+Noteshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
 .

  But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:


  https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
 

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Roberto Galoppiniroberto.galopp...@gmail.com





2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:


  2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com


  Hi,


the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.




There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/)
   But
the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.



I've created them for testing purpose only.


  Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?




I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?



Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.



I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
(rsync.apache.org::apache-dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
and we can't rsync files from there.


a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external

I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release 
Manager should have the last word.


Marcus




  dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-   contains the src release +

signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -   contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/**4.0.0/binaries  -   contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen


On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:


I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:


The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



Thanks

Juergen



On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:


Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate
as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
continue the success of OpenOffice.

This release candidate provides the following important changes


compared



  to former OpenOffice releases:


(1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar
concept
where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination


of



  reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the

existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from
the
Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

(2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
interoperability issues

(3) 600 defects are fixed

(4) many more features and improvements are integrated

For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under

  https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**

AOO+4.0+Release+Noteshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
.


  But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be

updated and polished ...

The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 23 languages) 

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

 2013/7/15 Roberto 
 Galoppiniroberto.galoppini@**gmail.comroberto.galopp...@gmail.com
 




 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:


   2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com


   Hi,


 the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate
 the
 binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
 special directory for Sourceforge.



 There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 **files/4.0.0/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/
 https://**sourceforge.net/projects/**openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**
 0.0/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/
 )

But
 the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https**://sourceforge.net/projects/**
 openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**0.0/binaries/de/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
 

 Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.


 I've created them for testing purpose only.


   Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?



 I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
 Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?


 Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
 from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.


 I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
 (rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
 and we can't rsync files from there.


 a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external


We get this error:
$ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
@ERROR: chroot failed
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
/SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]

Roberto




 I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release
 Manager should have the last word.

 Marcus



dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-   contains the src release +

 signatures/checksum/hashes

 dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -   contains the
 signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
 the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

 dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  -   contains all
 the

 binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

 A complete file list can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://**people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_**dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
 
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~**jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
 

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external


 If you have further questions please let me know.

 Juergen


 On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

  I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on
 confirmation
 of infra... I will keep you informed

 Juergen

 On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

  The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue
 that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
 ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

 Vote tally

 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
 +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
 +1 Shengfeng Liu
 +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
 +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
 +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

 0 Michal Hriň

 -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



 Thanks

 Juergen



 On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

  Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release
 candidate
 as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes

  compared


 

Contact message (from Gary Firestone)

2013-07-15 Thread Gary Firestone
I have Open Office 3.4 and I am wondering why I cannot do a mail merge?  It 
lets me go through up to step 3 but it will not let me continue.  How can I get 
this function to work to complete the task at hand?

It would be tremendous if I can get this feature to work.

Thanks

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[Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

2013-07-15 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having 
dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in 
the Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 
3.4.x but not available for 4.0.0.


My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a 
place to direct user with support questions to for a definitive 
statement, but I also recognize how controversial this topic can be.


Regards
Keith


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Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

2013-07-15 Thread Terje Ådland
Hei!
Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang. 
innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg lete!? 
Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter ordet øde 
dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er høyst irriterende! 
Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!?? Jeg liker absolutt ikke å 
bli overvåket når jeg skriver!!
Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!

Vennlig hilsen Terje Ådland  Bergen

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 08:02 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de


Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:


2013/7/15 Roberto 
Galoppiniroberto.galoppini@**gmail.comroberto.galopp...@gmail.com








2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:



   2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com



   Hi,



the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate
the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.




There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
**files/4.0.0/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/
https://**sourceforge.net/projects/**openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**
0.0/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/

)


But
the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https**://sourceforge.net/projects/**
openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**0.0/binaries/de/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/




Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.



I've created them for testing purpose only.


   Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?





I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?



Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.



I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
(rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
and we can't rsync files from there.



a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external



We get this error:
$ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
@ERROR: chroot failed
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
/SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]


If it's not a temporary problem, you can try to assemble the right URL 
from the content of this, maybe it's working:


http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

PS:
I don't know how much you are doing with rsync, so maybe this will help 
also:


http://www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress/rsync-error-5-may-be-exactly-what-it-says-165/

Otherwise Juergen should help out.

Sorry for the delay.

Marcus




I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release
Manager should have the last word.

Marcus



dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-contains the src release +



signatures/checksum/hashes


dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  -contains all
the

binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://**people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_**dist_files.txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt



http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~**jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txthttp://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt




rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external


If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen


On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

  I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on

confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

  The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,

revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue
that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr 

Re: [Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Keith N. McKenna
keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:
 Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having
 dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in the
 Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 3.4.x but
 not available for 4.0.0.


Negative press? Do you have a link?

Remember, we didn't drop anything.  For example, we had released no
translation of French 4.0 last week, because 4.0 was not done.   Now
that 4.0 is done and the translation is done, we can release both.
Does that mean we dropped French last week?  No it just means it was
not ready to release yet.

When the same conditions are met for other languages, we release them
as well.  So we're not dropping anything.  We're merely releasing the
translations that are done now rather than waiting longer for the ones
that are still in progress.

We did the exact same thing before with AOO 3.4.1.

 My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a place
 to direct user with support questions to for a definitive statement, but I
 also recognize how controversial this topic can be.


I added a statement to the release notes explaining that more
translations are coming and telling how interested parties can
volunteer to help.  Is that good enough?

-Rob


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Re: Contact message (from Gary Firestone)

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Gary Firestone garyfirest...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I have Open Office 3.4 and I am wondering why I cannot do a mail merge?  It 
 lets me go through up to step 3 but it will not let me continue.  How can I 
 get this function to work to complete the task at hand?

 It would be tremendous if I can get this feature to work.


The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki.  For
support questions please review your options here:

http://www.openoffice.org/support/

Regards,

-Rob


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Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
login problems.  For support questions please review your options
here:

http://www.openoffice.org/support/

Regards,

-Rob

2013/7/15 Terje Ådland jonjek...@yahoo.no:
 Hei!
 Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang. 
 innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg lete!? 
 Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter ordet øde 
 dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er høyst 
 irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!?? Jeg liker 
 absolutt ikke å bli overvåket når jeg skriver!!
 Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!

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Openoffice Base copy function

2013-07-15 Thread John 73 WA4GPS
In my club membership data base, I can use Filter by Selection to isolate a 
group of members that I want to send an E-mail to and, if I click on the 
E-mail Address field label, the entire column is highlighted but when I click 
on Copy and then try to Paste the block of E-mail Addresses in the Bcc 
field of on E-mail, I only get one E-mail address!  I need to be able to copy 
the entire block of E-mail Addresses.

John

Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

2013-07-15 Thread janI
2013/7/15 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
 login problems.  For support questions please review your options
 here:

 http://www.openoffice.org/support/

 Regards,

 -Rob


Just as information, the contact page was moved away from the top of wiki
sometime ago, and now has the following text at the top:

Please use the form below for technical help with wiki (questions about
openOffice is answered at http://forum.openoffice.org) 

So unless we remove contact completly, I dont see we can do much.

rgds
jan I.


 2013/7/15 Terje Ådland jonjek...@yahoo.no:
  Hei!
  Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang.
 innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg
 lete!? Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter
 ordet øde dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er
 høyst irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!??
 Jeg liker absolutt ikke å bli overvåket når jeg skriver!!
  Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!
 
  Vennlig hilsen Terje Ådland  Bergen
 
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Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

2013-07-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 10:22 PM, schrieb janI:

2013/7/15 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org


The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
login problems.  For support questions please review your options
here:

http://www.openoffice.org/support/

Regards,

-Rob



Just as information, the contact page was moved away from the top of wiki
sometime ago, and now has the following text at the top:

Please use the form below for technical help with wiki (questions about
openOffice is answered at http://forum.openoffice.org) 

So unless we remove contact completly, I dont see we can do much.


I'm optimistic, thanks for your help.

Marcus




2013/7/15 Terje Ådlandjonjek...@yahoo.no:

Hei!
Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang.

innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg
lete!? Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter
ordet øde dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er
høyst irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!??
Jeg liker absolutt ikke å bli overvåket når jeg skriver!!

Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 22:11 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
 Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:53 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
  Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:40 schrieb Marcus (OOo):
   Am 07/15/2013 08:02 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
 
 Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
  
  2013/7/15 Roberto 
  Galoppiniroberto.galoppini@**gmail.comroberto.galopp...@gmail.com

   
   
   


   2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

   Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

 
2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com
 
  
 Hi,
  
   
  the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to 
  separate
  the
  binaries from the src release and make the binaries 
  available in a
  special directory for Sourceforge.
   
  
 There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 **files/4.0.0/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/
 https://**sourceforge.net/projects/**openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**
 0.0/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/
  )
  
  
 But
 the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been 
 uploaded at
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https**://sourceforge.net/projects/**
 openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**0.0/binaries/de/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
   
  
  
 Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet 
 for 4.0.
I've created them for testing purpose only.
 
 
Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?
 
I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files 
from the
Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 
3.4.x?
 

   Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy 
   files
   from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a 
   lot.

   
  I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
  (rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
  and we can't rsync files from there.
   
  
  
 a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:
  
 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external
 
We get this error:
$ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
@ERROR: chroot failed
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
/SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]
 


   If it's not a temporary problem, you can try to assemble the right URL  
   from the content of this, maybe it's working:

   http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
   http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

   PS:
   I don't know how much you are doing with rsync, so maybe this will help  
   also:

   http://www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress/rsync-error-5-may-be-exactly-what-it-says-165/

   Otherwise Juergen should help out.

   Sorry for the delay.
  Roberto,
   
  I got the rsync URL from the infra team, if there is a problem we have to 
  figure it out with infra. I haven't used rsync and don't know what the 
  problem is.
  We just created a new directory that is not synchronized with the Apache 
  mirrors and is today mainly for you or other externals.
   
   
   
  
 just to make it even more clear, you have to rsync 
 dist/externaldist/openoffice only. There are the binaries and only the 
 signatures files, the checksum and hashes are duplicated. We want them on the 
 apache mirrors and I duplicate them for simplification only
  
Marcus told me that I send the reply to him only. Sometimes the mail client on 
my phone is driving me crazy...

Juergen
  
  
   
  Juergen

   Marcus



 I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release
 Manager should have the last word.
  
 Marcus
  
  
  
 dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source - contains the src release +
 
 signatures/checksum/hashes
   
  dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries - contains the
  signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we 
  keep them on
  the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in 
  the past.
   
  dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries - contains 
  all
  the
   
  

Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
 Am 07/15/2013 10:22 PM, schrieb janI:

 2013/7/15 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org

 The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
 login problems.  For support questions please review your options
 here:

 http://www.openoffice.org/support/

 Regards,

 -Rob


 Just as information, the contact page was moved away from the top of wiki
 sometime ago, and now has the following text at the top:

 Please use the form below for technical help with wiki (questions about
 openOffice is answered at http://forum.openoffice.org) 

 So unless we remove contact completly, I dont see we can do much.


 I'm optimistic, thanks for your help.


We see similar things with emails to the private and press mailing
lists.  We get a support question sent to these lists every few days.
 It is reasonable to believe that we have a similar fraction of wiki
users who just don't read the instructions.

However, in this case, I'm still waiting for the first real case of
someone using the form for its intended purpose.  Until that happens I
can't really calculate its success rate ;-)

It is essential a problem of scale.  It is hard to give individual
attention to 50 million users.  So we need to concentrate on self-help
via FAQ's, etc., and then direct users towards the best tools for
interactive help, e.g., the forums.  Anything that is confusing to
users, even at the 1% level, will lead to a flood of emails.

-Rob


 Marcus




 2013/7/15 Terje Ådlandjonjek...@yahoo.no:

 Hei!
 Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang.

 innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg
 lete!? Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe
 etter
 ordet øde dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er
 høyst irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!??
 Jeg liker absolutt ikke å bli overvåket når jeg skriver!!

 Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!

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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote:
 I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
 bug sorry if its a duplicate.

 It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
 affected.

 The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
 reproduce.


An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.

I realize this would be a Royal Pain of the First Order, but I wonder
if this defect is worth respinning the RC?

Regards,

-Rob



 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours
 ago.
 
  The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
  think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
 
  Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
  using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
  me.
 

 There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
 a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
 but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
 Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
 content.

 But you are saying it is cut not copy.  I can try that.

 Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?

 -Rob


  Here is the bug I opened,
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
 
  Samer

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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

I trust you tested the latest copy available here:

http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21t=7368

On 07/15/2013 12:08 PM, The weird writer wrote:

when I try i get a weird error. extract faied 42

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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread The weird writer
yes, I have, on the latest version of open office using windows 7 and 
that is how I got the error code 42 extraction failed. I am running the 
latest version of java to interact with the java access bridge so JAWS 
can work with open office, as well, if that helps.


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Re: [Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

2013-07-15 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Keith N. McKenna
keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:

Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having
dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in the
Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 3.4.x but
not available for 4.0.0.



Negative press? Do you have a link?


Was remembering a conversation from this list awhile back, mostly 
rumblings from the blogs.  Unfortunately a quick search of the archive 
wasn't able to uncover anything. May be just my memory is getting faulty 
with age.


Remember, we didn't drop anything.  For example, we had released no
translation of French 4.0 last week, because 4.0 was not done.   Now
that 4.0 is done and the translation is done, we can release both.
Does that mean we dropped French last week?  No it just means it was
not ready to release yet.


Rob I know we didn't drop anything and most of our users will know it 
also; however when we due a major release that does not include 
languages that where there before it will be noticed and commented on. 
The purpose of this post was not to rehash the minutia, but to solicit 
informed opinion as to whether an preemptive entry in the languages 
section of the release notes could help ward off some support requests 
and to give the people doing the support a place to point concerned 
people to.




When the same conditions are met for other languages, we release them
as well.  So we're not dropping anything.  We're merely releasing the
translations that are done now rather than waiting longer for the ones
that are still in progress.

We did the exact same thing before with AOO 3.4.1.


My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a place
to direct user with support questions to for a definitive statement, but I
also recognize how controversial this topic can be.



I added a statement to the release notes explaining that more
translations are coming and telling how interested parties can
volunteer to help.  Is that good enough?



Whether it is good enough is not for me to decide but it does accomplish 
the intent of the initial question.


Keith

-Rob



Regards
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2013/7/15 Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com

 Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 22:11 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

  Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:53 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:

  Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:40 schrieb Marcus (OOo):

 Am 07/15/2013 08:02 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

 2013/7/15 Roberto Galoppiniroberto.galoppini@**gmail.com
 roberto.galopp...@gmail.com





 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de

 Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:


 2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.com


 Hi,


 the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate
 the
 binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
 special directory for Sourceforge.

 There is a 4.0.0 staged folder set up which is good (
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 **files/4.0.0/
 https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/
 https://**sourceforge.net/projects/**openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**
 0.0/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/

 )


 But
 the only files uploaded are some de binaries have been uploaded at
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
 https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
 files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https**://sourceforge.net/projects/**
 openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**0.0/binaries/de/
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
 


 Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.

 I've created them for testing purpose only.


 Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?

 I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
 Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?

 Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
 from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.

 I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
 (rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
 and we can't rsync files from there.


 a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external


 We get this error:
 $ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
 @ERROR: chroot failed
 rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
 /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]


 If it's not a temporary problem, you can try to assemble the right URL
 from the content of this, maybe it's working:

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

 PS:
 I don't know how much you are doing with rsync, so maybe this will help
 also:


 http://www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress/rsync-error-5-may-be-exactly-what-it-says-165/

 Otherwise Juergen should help out.

 Sorry for the delay.

 Roberto,

 I got the rsync URL from the infra team, if there is a problem we have to
 figure it out with infra. I haven't used rsync and don't know what the
 problem is.
 We just created a new directory that is not synchronized with the Apache
 mirrors and is today mainly for you or other externals.

 just to make it even more clear, you have to rsync
 dist/externaldist/openoffice only. There are the binaries and only the
 signatures files, the checksum and hashes are duplicated. We want them on
 the apache mirrors and I duplicate them for simplification only

 Juergen,

You still need to fix the chroot error in the apache-dist-external rsync
module.
Either the path configured is wrong or there is a permission problem (by
default rsync accesses data using user nobody).

Can you please help this?

Second best if you know where are those files and you want to upload them
this would work too.

Let me know asap.

Thanks




 Marcus told me that I send the reply to him only. Sometimes the mail
 client on my phone is driving me crazy...

 Juergen



 Juergen


 Marcus



 I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release
 Manager should have the last word.

 Marcus



 dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source - contains the src release +


 signatures/checksum/hashes


 dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries - contains the
 signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
 the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

 dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries - contains all
 the

 binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

 A complete file list can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://**people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_**dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
 

Re: [DISCUSS] New localization requirements policy needed for releases

2013-07-15 Thread Andrew Rist


On 7/15/2013 12:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 7/15/13 9:04 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 14/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

In this specific case, for AOO 4.0,  I'm suggesting we release any
additional languages that are 100% on September 16th.  This is similar
to what we did for AOO 3.4.1.  After that date I think we then wait
for AOO 4.1.

Releasing a new language should be rather easy and repeatable, so it is
something that we can do once a month (but I can understand that August
may be problematic due to holidays).

Ideally, we should have a monthly update, say around mid-month, where we:

1) Release new languages (of course, based on the same code revision as
4.0, exactly as done for 3.4.1) that have reached 100% UI translation.

2) Formally unrelated to #1, we make (unreleased) dev snapshots
available of languages that have UI at 75-99%.

People should work on a reliable build bot infra structure that can
provide builds for all major platforms (Linux, Windows, MacOS). And then
we can configure more languages on demand.
While there are periodic complaints about the build bots (e.g.  when 
there are breaking changes made to the source tree), the main bots are 
pretty stable.  They mainly break when broken.  If you look at Windows 
Snapshot build http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-w7snap/ , the Windows 
nightly build http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/ , and the Linux 
64bit build http://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux64-nightly/ 
, you will notice that they are quite stable (esp. with the fix to the 
hanging process issue)


We can ask again at infra for our CentOS linux 32 bot and Mac hardware, 
and we have waited long enough on that front.  But, are there any issues 
we can identify with the current Windows snapshot build that make it 
unusable?
We can configure more languages on these bots on demand right now. Is 
there a technical reason you don't like them?


A.




I will be not the manual build bot ;-)

Proposing is fine but please think also about the realization.

Juergen

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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread The weird writer

sorry the error is BASIC runtime error object variable not set

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Re: [Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Keith N. McKenna
keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Keith N. McKenna
 keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote:

 Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having
 dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in the
 Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 3.4.x but
 not available for 4.0.0.


 Negative press? Do you have a link?


 Was remembering a conversation from this list awhile back, mostly rumblings
 from the blogs.  Unfortunately a quick search of the archive wasn't able to
 uncover anything. May be just my memory is getting faulty with age.


 Remember, we didn't drop anything.  For example, we had released no
 translation of French 4.0 last week, because 4.0 was not done.   Now
 that 4.0 is done and the translation is done, we can release both.
 Does that mean we dropped French last week?  No it just means it was
 not ready to release yet.


 Rob I know we didn't drop anything and most of our users will know it also;
 however when we due a major release that does not include languages that
 where there before it will be noticed and commented on. The purpose of this
 post was not to rehash the minutia, but to solicit informed opinion as to
 whether an preemptive entry in the languages section of the release notes
 could help ward off some support requests and to give the people doing the
 support a place to point concerned people to.


I think the important message for users is that languages can be added
incrementally, as the translations complete.  They are not tied to the
main release schedule in the same way other product features are.

It will probably be annoying to some users to see a language appear in
one release, then not be on the next release date, but then appear a
month later, etc.  But this is a self-correcting issue.  The more
users who are annoyed by this timing the more potential volunteers we
have to correct it.   The trick is to advertise that we need
volunteers on the NL page.  For example, we did this for Turkish and
we now see a new volunteer introducing themselves on the L10N list
every few days:

http://www.openoffice.org/tr/

Regards,

-Rob



 When the same conditions are met for other languages, we release them
 as well.  So we're not dropping anything.  We're merely releasing the
 translations that are done now rather than waiting longer for the ones
 that are still in progress.

 We did the exact same thing before with AOO 3.4.1.

 My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a
 place
 to direct user with support questions to for a definitive statement, but
 I
 also recognize how controversial this topic can be.


 I added a statement to the release notes explaining that more
 translations are coming and telling how interested parties can
 volunteer to help.  Is that good enough?


 Whether it is good enough is not for me to decide but it does accomplish the
 intent of the initial question.

 Keith

 -Rob


 Regards
 Keith


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