date:20130715

We couldn't find a valid top-level dir to even begin to look for the 4.0
files.
Until we get precise instructions how to locate those files we can't
populate our system and eventually our mirrors.

Please help with this issue asap.

thanks,

Roberto

Contact message (from Deborah Skelton)

2013-07-15 Thread Deborah Skelton

I opened an accout a couple of years ago butdon't remember my username or 
password. Can you retrieve it?  
Deborah Skelton

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Re: [Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Keith N. McKenna
 wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Keith N. McKenna
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having
>>> dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in the
>>> Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 3.4.x but
>>> not available for 4.0.0.
>>>
>>
>> Negative press? Do you have a link?
>
>
> Was remembering a conversation from this list awhile back, mostly rumblings
> from the blogs.  Unfortunately a quick search of the archive wasn't able to
> uncover anything. May be just my memory is getting faulty with age.
>
>>
>> Remember, we didn't drop anything.  For example, we had released no
>> translation of French 4.0 last week, because 4.0 was not done.   Now
>> that 4.0 is done and the translation is done, we can release both.
>> Does that mean we dropped French last week?  No it just means it was
>> not ready to release yet.
>
>
> Rob I know we didn't drop anything and most of our users will know it also;
> however when we due a major release that does not include languages that
> where there before it will be noticed and commented on. The purpose of this
> post was not to rehash the minutia, but to solicit informed opinion as to
> whether an preemptive entry in the languages section of the release notes
> could help ward off some support requests and to give the people doing the
> support a place to point concerned people to.
>

I think the important message for users is that languages can be added
incrementally, as the translations complete.  They are not tied to the
main release schedule in the same way other product features are.

It will probably be annoying to some users to see a language appear in
one release, then not be on the next release date, but then appear a
month later, etc.  But this is a self-correcting issue.  The more
users who are annoyed by this timing the more potential volunteers we
have to correct it.   The trick is to advertise that we need
volunteers on the NL page.  For example, we did this for Turkish and
we now see a new volunteer introducing themselves on the L10N list
every few days:

http://www.openoffice.org/tr/

Regards,

-Rob

>
>>
>> When the same conditions are met for other languages, we release them
>> as well.  So we're not dropping anything.  We're merely releasing the
>> translations that are done now rather than waiting longer for the ones
>> that are still in progress.
>>
>> We did the exact same thing before with AOO 3.4.1.
>>
>>> My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a
>>> place
>>> to direct user with support questions to for a definitive statement, but
>>> I
>>> also recognize how controversial this topic can be.
>>>
>>
>> I added a statement to the release notes explaining that more
>> translations are coming and telling how interested parties can
>> volunteer to help.  Is that good enough?
>>
>
> Whether it is good enough is not for me to decide but it does accomplish the
> intent of the initial question.
>
> Keith
>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
>>>
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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread The weird writer


sorry the error is BASIC runtime error object variable not set

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Re: [DISCUSS] New localization requirements policy needed for releases

2013-07-15 Thread Andrew Rist



On 7/15/2013 12:19 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 7/15/13 9:04 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 14/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

In this specific case, for AOO 4.0,  I'm suggesting we release any
additional languages that are 100% on September 16th.  This is similar
to what we did for AOO 3.4.1.  After that date I think we then wait
for AOO 4.1.

Releasing a new language should be rather easy and repeatable, so it is
something that we can do once a month (but I can understand that August
may be problematic due to holidays).

Ideally, we should have a monthly update, say around mid-month, where we:

1) Release new languages (of course, based on the same code revision as
4.0, exactly as done for 3.4.1) that have reached 100% UI translation.

2) Formally unrelated to #1, we make (unreleased) dev snapshots
available of languages that have UI at 75-99%.

People should work on a reliable build bot infra structure that can
provide builds for all major platforms (Linux, Windows, MacOS). And then
we can configure more languages on demand.
While there are periodic complaints about the build bots (e.g.  when 
there are breaking changes made to the source tree), the main bots are 
pretty stable.  They mainly break when broken.  If you look at Windows 
Snapshot build  , the Windows 
nightly build  , and the Linux 
64bit build  
, you will notice that they are quite stable (esp. with the fix to the 
hanging process issue)


We can ask again at infra for our CentOS linux 32 bot and Mac hardware, 
and we have waited long enough on that front.  But, are there any issues 
we can identify with the current Windows snapshot build that make it 
unusable?
We can configure more languages on these bots on demand right now. Is 
there a technical reason you don't like them?


A.




I will be not the manual build bot ;-)

Proposing is fine but please think also about the realization.

Juergen

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013/7/15 Juergen Schmidt 

> Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 22:11 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
>
>  Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:53 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
>
>  Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:40 schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>
> Am 07/15/2013 08:02 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>
> 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)
>
> Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>
> 2013/7/15 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)
>
> Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>
>
> 2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate
> the
> binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
> special directory for Sourceforge.
>
> There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
> **files/4.0.0/<
> https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/>
>  0.0/
>
> )
>
>
> But
> the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/<
> https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**>
> files/4.0.0/binaries/de/ openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**0.0/binaries/de/<
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
> >
>
>
> Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.
>
> I've created them for testing purpose only.
>
>
> Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?
>
> I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
> Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?
>
> Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
> from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.
>
> I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
> (rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
> and we can't rsync files from there.
>
>
> a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:
>
> rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external
>
>
> We get this error:
> $ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
> @ERROR: chroot failed
> rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
> /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]
>
>
> If it's not a temporary problem, you can try to assemble the right URL
> from the content of this, maybe it's working:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
>
> PS:
> I don't know how much you are doing with rsync, so maybe this will help
> also:
>
>
> http://www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress/rsync-error-5-may-be-exactly-what-it-says-165/
>
> Otherwise Juergen should help out.
>
> Sorry for the delay.
>
> Roberto,
>
> I got the rsync URL from the infra team, if there is a problem we have to
> figure it out with infra. I haven't used rsync and don't know what the
> problem is.
> We just created a new directory that is not synchronized with the Apache
> mirrors and is today mainly for you or other externals.
>
> just to make it even more clear, you have to rsync
> dist/externaldist/openoffice only. There are the binaries and only the
> signatures files, the checksum and hashes are duplicated. We want them on
> the apache mirrors and I duplicate them for simplification only
>
> Juergen,

You still need to fix the chroot error in the apache-dist-external rsync
module.
Either the path configured is wrong or there is a permission problem (by
default rsync accesses data using user "nobody").

Can you please help this?

Second best if you know where are those files and you want to upload them
this would work too.

Let me know asap.

Thanks



>
> Marcus told me that I send the reply to him only. Sometimes the mail
> client on my phone is driving me crazy...
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
> Juergen
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release
> Manager should have the last word.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source -> contains the src release +
>
>
> signatures/checksum/hashes
>
>
> dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries -> contains the
> signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
> the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.
>
> dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries -> contains all
> the
>
> binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes
>
> A complete file list can be found under
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt<
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txt>
>  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt>
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txt<
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_e

Re: [Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

2013-07-15 Thread Keith N. McKenna


Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Keith N. McKenna
 wrote:

Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having
dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in the
Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 3.4.x but
not available for 4.0.0.



Negative press? Do you have a link?


Was remembering a conversation from this list awhile back, mostly 
rumblings from the blogs.  Unfortunately a quick search of the archive 
wasn't able to uncover anything. May be just my memory is getting faulty 
with age.


Remember, we didn't drop anything.  For example, we had released no
translation of French 4.0 last week, because 4.0 was not done.   Now
that 4.0 is done and the translation is done, we can release both.
Does that mean we dropped French last week?  No it just means it was
not ready to release yet.


Rob I know we didn't drop anything and most of our users will know it 
also; however when we due a major release that does not include 
languages that where there before it will be noticed and commented on. 
The purpose of this post was not to rehash the minutia, but to solicit 
informed opinion as to whether an preemptive entry in the languages 
section of the release notes could help ward off some support requests 
and to give the people doing the support a place to point concerned 
people to.




When the same conditions are met for other languages, we release them
as well.  So we're not dropping anything.  We're merely releasing the
translations that are done now rather than waiting longer for the ones
that are still in progress.

We did the exact same thing before with AOO 3.4.1.


My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a place
to direct user with support questions to for a definitive statement, but I
also recognize how controversial this topic can be.



I added a statement to the release notes explaining that more
translations are coming and telling how interested parties can
volunteer to help.  Is that good enough?



Whether it is good enough is not for me to decide but it does accomplish 
the intent of the initial question.


Keith

-Rob



Regards
Keith


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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread The weird writer

yes, I have, on the latest version of open office using windows 7 and 
that is how I got the error code 42 extraction failed. I am running the 
latest version of java to interact with the java access bridge so JAWS 
can work with open office, as well, if that helps.


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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk 
> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
> >> >> completed.  The release is approved.
> >> >>
> >> >> However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
> >> >> We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
> >> >> including:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
> >> >> directories
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
> >> >> much as 24 hours)
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
> >> >> for translations.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Personally, I think that is a pain in the ass to convert the wiki
> >> Release Notes to HTML.  Remember, our goal has been to make the
> >> Release Notes nicer, with more graphics, etc.  So this is going to
> >> make conversion more difficult.  But if someone really wants to do
> >> that, then I have no objections.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >
> > Given our past thread on this, I didn't know what the "decision" was.
> >
>
> My takeaway was there were concerns with having uncontrolled changes
> to the Release Notes.   But if we like the wiki as a technology there
> are ways of handling this.  For example, we could link to a specific
> revision of the wiki page from the download page.  That allows us to
> be constant by default, but preserves flexibility to update it later
> if needed.
>
> -Rob
>

Ok. this would be a useful option. I tried this just now and it seemed to
work fine.



>
> > For now, we will link to the Community wiki area I guess, and deal with
> > other issues on this matter later.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
> >> >>
> >> >> The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
> >> >> we have a few other items to do:
> >> >>
> >> >> 5. Update logos on social media sites
> >> >>
> >> >> 6. Enable update notification server
> >> >>
> >> >> 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
> >> >> Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
> >> >> then.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
> >> >> But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items
> ready
> >> >> to go.
> >> >>
> >> >> Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
> >> >> is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
> >> >> at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
> >> >> the press coverage.
> >> >>
> >> >> We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
> >> >> items:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> -Rob
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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt

Hello, 

> -Original Message-
> From: The weird writer [mailto:weirdwriter9...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:09 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: autocorrect macro?
> 
> when I try i get a weird error. extract faied 42

I do not know what should be "weird error".

In addition, you are rude and uncooperative. No "thank you", no evidence of 
your operating system, etc.

This code works fine for me (OOo 3.3.0, Windows 7). 

global gWriterDoc as object
global gCalcDoc as object
global autoCorrDbDatFileWithPath as string
global autoCorrFileXmlWithPath as string


sub ImportACLfromWord   
   ' ImportACLfromWord - 23/06/2006 by Pat B
   ' Modifications 25/06/2006 by Zarius (refactored & generalised)
   
   ' ** Back up your //.openoffice.org2/user/autocorr/acor_xx-xx.dat before you 
start.

   ' Use MS Word to back up your Word autocorrect list using the macro at
   '   http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Customization/ExportAutocorrect.htm
   ' Then open that document in Writer, run this macro then restart OpenOffice.

   ' Tested on OOo 2.0.2 on Linux (Ubuntu 6.0.6) - locale en-AU
   ' Tested on StarOffice 7.0 on Linux (RHEL 4)  - locale en-AU
   ' "Should" be general enough to work on any OS that OO works on.

   ' Before running, uncomment the appropriate version below and
   ' replace the locale (OO1.x: 1033, OO2.x: en-AU) with your locale.
   ' New: the macro should automatically detect the locale on OO2.x

   ' **
   '  EDIT ME *
   ' SO7/OO1.x
   'locale = "1033" ' SO7, OO1.x - other locales have different numbers (eg 
1031)
   'autoCorrDbDatFile = "acor"+locale+".dat" ' this probably wont change   

   ' OO2.x
   'locale = "en-AU"   ' en-AU = Australian English (change to your own locale)
   locale = detectSetupSystemLocale() ' automatic detection - only for OO2.x
   autoCorrDbDatFile = "acor_"+locale+".dat" ' this probably wont change
   '  END: EDIT ME 
   ' **

   ' The macro selects the unformatted entries (ie RTF='False' elements) in MS
   '   Word's AutoCorrect Backup Document and transposes these to a text 
document
   '   called DocumentList.xml which is then zipped into
   '   //.openoffice.org2/user/autocorr/acor_en-AU.dat.

   ' It does not transpose formatted entries.  I suggest you do this manually.

   ' Good luck!  No Warranty!

   dim oWriterDocFrame, oCalcDocFrame as object
   dim dispatcher as object
   dim vcursor, txtype as object
   dim msg, seln as string
   Dim CalcDoc As Object
   Dim CalcUrl As String
   Dim OpenDummy()
   dim GoRLUD(1) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
   dim gotoCell(1) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
   dim TypeText(0) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue

   autoCorrFileXml = "DocumentList.xml" ' this probably wont change

   ' setup the path and filenames for the AutoCorrect database and the xml file
   oPaths = CreateUnoService( "com.sun.star.util.PathSettings" )
   sofficeConfigPathUrl = oPaths.UserConfig
   sofficeConfigPath = ConvertFromURL(sofficeConfigPathUrl) ' strip the 
file:/// from the front
   autoCorrDbDatFileWithPath = sofficeConfigPathUrl + "/../autocorr/" + 
autoCorrDbDatFile
   autoCorrFileXmlWithPath   = sofficeConfigPathUrl + "/../autocorr/" + 
autoCorrFileXml

   ' setup the dispatcher (note: trying to phase out the dispatcher commands,
   'though probably need it for the copy & paste at the least)
   dispatcher = createUnoService("com.sun.star.frame.DispatchHelper")

   '  writer section

   ' grab the current document
   gWriterDoc = ThisComponent
   oWriterDocFrame = gWriterDoc.CurrentController.Frame
   
   ' If the table is large, these steps can take minutes.  Pls be patient.
   
   ' TODO: work out a way of doing this (deleting top two lines) using the
   '   API whilst not leaving one paragraph hanging at the top of the document.

   ' make sure we're right at the top of doc, need all three of these
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:GoToStartOfDoc", "", 0, 
Array())
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:GoToStartOfDoc", "", 0, 
Array())
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:GoToStartOfDoc", "", 0, 
Array())

   ' del first two lines then go to top again
   GoRLUD(0).Name = "Count"
   GoRLUD(0).Value = 1
   GoRLUD(1).Name = "Select"
   GoRLUD(1).Value = true
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:GoDown", "", 0, GoRLUD())
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:Delete", "", 0, Array())
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:Delete", "", 0, Array())
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:GoToStartOfDoc", "", 0, 
Array())
   dispatcher.executeDispatch(oWriterDocFrame, ".uno:GoToStartOfDoc", "", 0, 
Array())
   di

Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


I trust you tested the latest copy available here:

http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=7368

On 07/15/2013 12:08 PM, The weird writer wrote:

when I try i get a weird error. extract faied 42

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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
> bug sorry if its a duplicate.
>
> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
> affected.
>
> The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
> reproduce.
>

An update on this crash.  I was eventually able to reproduce it on
Windows 8, 64-bit.  This was an initial install, not an upgrade.
Samer saw it on an upgrade install.

I worked on the stack trace with Herbert (fortunately my Windows 8
machine had a debugger installed).  Herbert gave me a patch to test.
It appears to work on my machine.  We're waiting to hear back from
Samer on whether it worked for him.

I realize this would be a Royal Pain of the First Order, but I wonder
if this defect is worth respinning the RC?

Regards,

-Rob


>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour 
>> wrote:
>> > I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours
>> ago.
>> >
>> > The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
>> > think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
>> >
>> > Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
>> > using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
>> > me.
>> >
>>
>> There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
>> a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
>> but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
>> Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
>> content.
>>
>> But you are saying it is "cut" not copy.  I can try that.
>>
>> Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > Here is the bug I opened,
>> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
>> >
>> > Samer
>>
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Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:
> Am 07/15/2013 10:22 PM, schrieb janI:
>
>> 2013/7/15 Rob Weir
>>
>>> The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
>>> login problems.  For support questions please review your options
>>> here:
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/support/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>
>> Just as information, the contact page was moved away from the top of wiki
>> sometime ago, and now has the following text at the top:
>>
>> "Please use the form below for technical help with wiki (questions about
>> openOffice is answered at http://forum.openoffice.org) "
>>
>> So unless we remove contact completly, I dont see we can do much.
>
>
> I'm optimistic, thanks for your help.
>

We see similar things with emails to the private and press mailing
lists.  We get a support question sent to these lists every few days.
 It is reasonable to believe that we have a similar fraction of wiki
users who just don't read the instructions.

However, in this case, I'm still waiting for the first real case of
someone using the form for its intended purpose.  Until that happens I
can't really calculate its success rate ;-)

It is essential a problem of scale.  It is hard to give individual
attention to 50 million users.  So we need to concentrate on self-help
via FAQ's, etc., and then direct users towards the best tools for
interactive help, e.g., the forums.  Anything that is confusing to
users, even at the 1% level, will lead to a flood of emails.

-Rob

> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>>> 2013/7/15 Terje Ådland:

 Hei!
 Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang.
>>>
>>> innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg
>>> lete!? Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe
>>> etter
>>> ordet øde dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er
>>> høyst irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!??
>>> Jeg liker absolutt ikke å bli "overvåket" når jeg skriver!!

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Juergen Schmidt

Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 22:11 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
> Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:53 schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
> > Am Montag, 15. Juli 2013 um 21:40 schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> > > Am 07/15/2013 08:02 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
> > > > 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)
> > > >  
> > > > > Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
> > > > >  
> > > > > > 2013/7/15 Roberto 
> > > > > > Galoppini
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to 
> > > > > > > > > > separate
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > binaries from the src release and make the binaries 
> > > > > > > > > > available in a
> > > > > > > > > > special directory for Sourceforge.
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
> > > > > > > > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
> > > > > > > > > **files/4.0.0/
> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > 0.0/
> > > > > > > > > > )
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > But
> > > > > > > > > the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been 
> > > > > > > > > uploaded at
> > > > > > > > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> > > > > > > > > files/4.0.0/binaries/de/ > > > > > > > > openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**0.0/binaries/de/
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet 
> > > > > > > > > for 4.0.
> > > > > > > > I've created them for testing purpose only.
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files 
> > > > > > > > from the
> > > > > > > > Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 
> > > > > > > > 3.4.x?
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy 
> > > > > > > files
> > > > > > > from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a 
> > > > > > > lot.
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
> > > > > > (rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
> > > > > > and we can't rsync files from there.
> > > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > > a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:
> > > > >  
> > > > > rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external
> > > >  
> > > > We get this error:
> > > > $ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
> > > > @ERROR: chroot failed
> > > > rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
> > > > /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]
> > > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > If it's not a temporary problem, you can try to assemble the right URL  
> > > from the content of this, maybe it's working:
> > >  
> > > http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
> > > http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
> > >  
> > > PS:
> > > I don't know how much you are doing with rsync, so maybe this will help  
> > > also:
> > >  
> > > http://www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress/rsync-error-5-may-be-exactly-what-it-says-165/
> > >  
> > > Otherwise Juergen should help out.
> > >  
> > > Sorry for the delay.
> > Roberto,
> >  
> > I got the rsync URL from the infra team, if there is a problem we have to 
> > figure it out with infra. I haven't used rsync and don't know what the 
> > problem is.
> > We just created a new directory that is not synchronized with the Apache 
> > mirrors and is today mainly for you or other externals.
> >  
> >  
> >  
>  
> just to make it even more clear, you have to rsync 
> dist/externaldist/openoffice only. There are the binaries and only the 
> signatures files, the checksum and hashes are duplicated. We want them on the 
> apache mirrors and I duplicate them for simplification only
>  
Marcus told me that I send the reply to him only. Sometimes the mail client on 
my phone is driving me crazy...

Juergen
  
>  
> >  
> > Juergen
> > >  
> > > Marcus
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > > > I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen a

Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)


Am 07/15/2013 10:22 PM, schrieb janI:

2013/7/15 Rob Weir


The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
login problems.  For support questions please review your options
here:

http://www.openoffice.org/support/

Regards,

-Rob



Just as information, the contact page was moved away from the top of wiki
sometime ago, and now has the following text at the top:

"Please use the form below for technical help with wiki (questions about
openOffice is answered at http://forum.openoffice.org) "

So unless we remove contact completly, I dont see we can do much.


I'm optimistic, thanks for your help.

Marcus




2013/7/15 Terje Ådland:

Hei!
Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang.

innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg
lete!? Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter
ordet øde dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er
høyst irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!??
Jeg liker absolutt ikke å bli "overvåket" når jeg skriver!!

Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!

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Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

2013-07-15 Thread janI

2013/7/15 Rob Weir 

> The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
> login problems.  For support questions please review your options
> here:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/support/
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>

Just as information, the contact page was moved away from the top of wiki
sometime ago, and now has the following text at the top:

"Please use the form below for technical help with wiki (questions about
openOffice is answered at http://forum.openoffice.org) "

So unless we remove contact completly, I dont see we can do much.

rgds
jan I.


> 2013/7/15 Terje Ådland :
> > Hei!
> > Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang.
> innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg
> lete!? Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter
> ordet øde dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er
> høyst irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!??
> Jeg liker absolutt ikke å bli "overvåket" når jeg skriver!!
> > Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!
> >
> > Vennlig hilsen Terje Ådland  Bergen
> >
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Openoffice Base copy function

2013-07-15 Thread John 73 WA4GPS

In my club membership data base, I can use "Filter by Selection" to isolate a 
group of members that I want to send an E-mail to and, if I click on the 
"E-mail Address" field label, the entire column is highlighted but when I click 
on "Copy" and then try to "Paste" the block of E-mail Addresses in the Bcc 
field of on E-mail, I only get one E-mail address!  I need to be able to copy 
the entire block of E-mail Addresses.

John

Re: Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki, e.g.,
login problems.  For support questions please review your options
here:

http://www.openoffice.org/support/

Regards,

-Rob

2013/7/15 Terje Ådland :
> Hei!
> Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang. 
> innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg lete!? 
> Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter ordet øde 
> dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er høyst 
> irriterende! Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!?? Jeg liker 
> absolutt ikke å bli "overvåket" når jeg skriver!!
> Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!
>
> Vennlig hilsen Terje Ådland  Bergen
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Re: Contact message (from Gary Firestone)

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Gary Firestone  wrote:
> I have Open Office 3.4 and I am wondering why I cannot do a mail merge?  It 
> lets me go through up to step 3 but it will not let me continue.  How can I 
> get this function to work to complete the task at hand?
>
> It would be tremendous if I can get this feature to work.
>

The help form on the wiki is for reporting issues with the wiki.  For
support questions please review your options here:

http://www.openoffice.org/support/

Regards,

-Rob


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Re: [Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Keith N. McKenna
 wrote:
> Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having
> dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in the
> Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 3.4.x but
> not available for 4.0.0.
>

Negative press? Do you have a link?

Remember, we didn't drop anything.  For example, we had released no
translation of French 4.0 last week, because 4.0 was not done.   Now
that 4.0 is done and the translation is done, we can release both.
Does that mean we dropped French last week?  No it just means it was
not ready to release yet.

When the same conditions are met for other languages, we release them
as well.  So we're not dropping anything.  We're merely releasing the
translations that are done now rather than waiting longer for the ones
that are still in progress.

We did the exact same thing before with AOO 3.4.1.

> My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a place
> to direct user with support questions to for a definitive statement, but I
> also recognize how controversial this topic can be.
>

I added a statement to the release notes explaining that more
translations are coming and telling how interested parties can
volunteer to help.  Is that good enough?

-Rob

> Regards
> Keith
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

Am 07/15/2013 08:02 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Roberto
Galoppini

2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt

Hi,

the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate
the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.

There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
**files/4.0.0/

)

But
the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
files/4.0.0/binaries/de/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/>

Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.

I've created them for testing purpose only.

Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?

I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?

Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.

I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
(rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
and we can't rsync files from there.

a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

We get this error:
$ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
@ERROR: chroot failed
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
/SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]

If it's not a temporary problem, you can try to assemble the right URL
from the content of this, maybe it's working:

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

PS:
I don't know how much you are doing with rsync, so maybe this will help
also:

http://www.2rosenthals.net/wordpress/rsync-error-5-may-be-exactly-what-it-says-165/

Otherwise Juergen should help out.

Sorry for the delay.

Marcus

I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release
Manager should have the last word.

Marcus

dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source->contains the src release +

signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries ->contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries ->contains all
the

binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txt

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on

confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,

revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue
that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)

Thanks

Juergen

On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following r

Contact message (from Terje Ådland)

2013-07-15 Thread Terje Ådland

Hei!
Jeg bruker mitt open office org. writer skriveprogram mye, og ang. 
innstillinger av div. funksjoner har jeg litt problemer. Hvor skal jeg lete!? 
Et eksempel: skriver f.eks. ordet ødemarking. Skriver jeg noe etter ordet øde 
dukker ødemarking opp, med marking markert i blått. Dette er høyst irriterende! 
Hva kan jeg gjøre for å bli kvitt dette problemet!!?? Jeg liker absolutt ikke å 
bli "overvåket" når jeg skriver!!
Ville satt stor pris på en tilbakemelding og hjelpe meg ut av dette!

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[Discuss}{Release Notes 4.0.0]

2013-07-15 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Given the negative press we have received in some quarters about having 
dropped language translations, would it make sense to add a notice in 
the Release Notes for 4.0.0 about languages that were available for 
3.4.x but not available for 4.0.0.


My personal feeling is that it would be good since it would give us a 
place to direct user with support questions to for a definitive 
statement, but I also recognize how controversial this topic can be.


Regards
Keith


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Contact message (from Gary Firestone)

2013-07-15 Thread Gary Firestone

I have Open Office 3.4 and I am wondering why I cannot do a mail merge?  It 
lets me go through up to step 3 but it will not let me continue.  How can I get 
this function to work to complete the task at hand?

It would be tremendous if I can get this feature to work.

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo) 

> Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>
>> 2013/7/15 Roberto 
>> Galoppini
>> >
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)
>>>
>>> Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>>>

   2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt

>
>   Hi,
>
>>
>> the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate
>> the
>> binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
>> special directory for Sourceforge.
>>
>>
>>
> There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
> **files/4.0.0/
>  0.0/
> >)
>
>But
> the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> files/4.0.0/binaries/de/ openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.**0.0/binaries/de/
> >
>
> Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.
>
>
 I've created them for testing purpose only.


   Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?

>
>
 I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
 Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?


>>> Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
>>> from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.
>>>
>>>
>> I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
>> (rsync.apache.org::apache-**dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
>> and we can't rsync files from there.
>>
>
> a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:
>
> rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external
>

We get this error:
$ rsync rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external .
@ERROR: chroot failed
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at
/SourceCache/rsync/rsync-42/rsync/main.c(1398) [receiver=2.6.9]

Roberto



>
> I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release
> Manager should have the last word.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source->   contains the src release +

> signatures/checksum/hashes
>>
>> dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  ->   contains the
>> signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
>> the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.
>>
>> dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  ->   contains all
>> the
>>
>> binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes
>>
>> A complete file list can be found under
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
>> 
>> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.**txt
>> 
>> >
>>
>> rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external
>>
>>
>> If you have further questions please let me know.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>> On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>  I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on
>>> confirmation
>>> of infra... I will keep you informed
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>> On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>  The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
 revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

 The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
 member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue
 that
 were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
 ballot
 closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

 Vote tally

 +1 Sylvain Dennis
 +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
 +1 Fr web forum
 +1 V Stuart Foote
 +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
 +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
 +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
 +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
 +1 Rob Weir (binding)
 +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
 +1 Joost Andrae
 +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
 +1 Andrea Pescetti (bin

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)


Am 07/15/2013 07:44 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Roberto Galoppini





2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:


  2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt


  Hi,


the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.




There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/)
   But
the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.



I've created them for testing purpose only.


  Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?




I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?



Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.



I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
(rsync.apache.org::apache-dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
and we can't rsync files from there.


a bit lower in this mail thread Juergen stated this:

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external

I can imagine that this is the way to go. However, Juergen as Release 
Manager should have the last word.


Marcus




  dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source->   contains the src release +

signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  ->   contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/**4.0.0/binaries  ->   contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen


On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:


I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:


The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



Thanks

Juergen



On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:


Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate
as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
continue the success of OpenOffice.

This release candidate provides the following important changes


compared



  to former OpenOffice releases:


(1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar
concept
where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination


of



  reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the

existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from
the
Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

(2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
interoperability issues

(3) 600 defects are fixed

(4) many more features and improvements are integrated

For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under

  https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**

AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
.


  But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be

updated and polished ...

The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apac

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013/7/15 Roberto Galoppini 

>
>
>
> 2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo) 
>
> Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>>
>>  2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt
>>>
>>>  Hi,

 the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
 binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
 special directory for Sourceforge.


>>>
>>> There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
>>> https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/)
>>>   But
>>> the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
>>> https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
>>> files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
>>> Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.
>>>
>>
>> I've created them for testing purpose only.
>>
>>
>>  Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?
>>>
>>
>> I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
>> Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?
>>
>
> Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
> from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.
>

I ask that because the old location doesn't have 4.x
(rsync.apache.org::apache-dist/incubator/ooo/files/)
and we can't rsync files from there.

Roberto



>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source->  contains the src release +
 signatures/checksum/hashes

 dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  ->  contains the
 signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
 the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

 dist/externaldist/openoffice/**4.0.0/binaries  ->  contains all the
 binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

 A complete file list can be found under

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txt
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external

 If you have further questions please let me know.

 Juergen


 On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
> of infra... I will keep you informed
>
> Juergen
>
> On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
>> revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
>>
>> The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
>> member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
>> were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
>>
>> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the
>> ballot
>> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
>>
>> Vote tally
>>
>> +1 Sylvain Dennis
>> +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
>> +1 Fr web forum
>> +1 V Stuart Foote
>> +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
>> +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
>> +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
>> +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
>> +1 Rob Weir (binding)
>> +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
>> +1 Joost Andrae
>> +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
>> +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
>> +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
>> +1 Shengfeng Liu
>> +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
>> +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
>> +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
>>
>> 0 Michal Hriň
>>
>> -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate
>>> as
>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
>>> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
>>> continue the success of OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> This release candidate provides the following important changes
>>>
>> compared

>  to former OpenOffice releases:
>>>
>>> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar
>>> concept
>>> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination
>>>
>> of

>  reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
>>> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from
>>> the
>>> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
>>> interoperability issues
>>>
>>> (3) 600 defects are fixed
>>>
>>>

Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013/7/15 Marcus (OOo) 

> Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>
>  2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
>>> binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
>>> special directory for Sourceforge.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
>> https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**files/4.0.0/)
>>   But
>> the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
>> https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
>> files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
>> Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.
>>
>
> I've created them for testing purpose only.
>
>
>  Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?
>>
>
> I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
> Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?
>

Ok, if we need to do that I need to know where can we rsync copy files
from. Please communicate is ASAP because updating mirrors takes a lot.

Thanks




>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>  dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source->  contains the src release +
>>> signatures/checksum/hashes
>>>
>>> dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  ->  contains the
>>> signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
>>> the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.
>>>
>>> dist/externaldist/openoffice/**4.0.0/binaries  ->  contains all the
>>> binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes
>>>
>>> A complete file list can be found under
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_dist_files.txt
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
>>>
>>> rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-**external
>>>
>>> If you have further questions please let me know.
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>>
 I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
 of infra... I will keep you informed

 Juergen

 On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
> revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
>
> The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
> member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
> were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
>
> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
>
> Vote tally
>
> +1 Sylvain Dennis
> +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
> +1 Fr web forum
> +1 V Stuart Foote
> +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
> +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
> +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
> +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
> +1 Rob Weir (binding)
> +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
> +1 Joost Andrae
> +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
> +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
> +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
> +1 Shengfeng Liu
> +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
> +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
> +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
>
> 0 Michal Hriň
>
> -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Juergen
>
>
>
> On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate
>> as
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
>> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
>> continue the success of OpenOffice.
>>
>> This release candidate provides the following important changes
>>
> compared
>>>
 to former OpenOffice releases:
>>
>> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
>> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination
>>
> of
>>>
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
>> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from
>> the
>> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
>>
>> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
>> interoperability issues
>>
>> (3) 600 defects are fixed
>>
>> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
>>
>> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
>>
>>  https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>> AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
>>> .
>>>
 But keep in mind that the release no

Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> >
>> >> As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
>> >> completed.  The release is approved.
>> >>
>> >> However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
>> >> We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
>> >> including:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
>> >> directories
>> >>
>> >> 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
>> >> much as 24 hours)
>> >>
>> >> 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
>> >>
>> >> 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
>> >> for translations.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?
>> >
>>
>> Personally, I think that is a pain in the ass to convert the wiki
>> Release Notes to HTML.  Remember, our goal has been to make the
>> Release Notes nicer, with more graphics, etc.  So this is going to
>> make conversion more difficult.  But if someone really wants to do
>> that, then I have no objections.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
> Given our past thread on this, I didn't know what the "decision" was.
>

My takeaway was there were concerns with having uncontrolled changes
to the Release Notes.   But if we like the wiki as a technology there
are ways of handling this.  For example, we could link to a specific
revision of the wiki page from the download page.  That allows us to
be constant by default, but preserves flexibility to update it later
if needed.

-Rob

> For now, we will link to the Community wiki area I guess, and deal with
> other issues on this matter later.
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >> 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
>> >>
>> >> The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
>> >> we have a few other items to do:
>> >>
>> >> 5. Update logos on social media sites
>> >>
>> >> 6. Enable update notification server
>> >>
>> >> 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
>> >> Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
>> >> then.
>> >
>> >
>> > OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation
>> >
>> >
>> >>  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
>> >> But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
>> >> to go.
>> >>
>> >> Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
>> >> is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
>> >> at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
>> >> the press coverage.
>> >>
>> >> We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
>> >> items:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >> -
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >  -- Jon Bon Jovi
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Re: Mac release


Am 07/15/2013 06:57 PM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo) 
wrote:


Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system

complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?

-Andre


[1]
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732



It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
already.

Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
course, it's still intermediate):

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html


1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.

Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

Marcus

1) is better.


I like 1 better, too. But it still looks too prominent. We don't want to
scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem). Maybe
an explanation in the release notes is enough.


I've decreased the font size a bit. And remember only 1) or 2) will 
survive at the end. Currently it's duplicated which maybe supports the 
too prominent look & feel.


Marcus




maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"

I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should
focus
on highlighting "installation".

I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.


Great thanks.


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Re: Mac release


Am 07/15/2013 06:08 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:


Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

  Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system

complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?

-Andre


[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732



It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
already.

Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
course, it's still intermediate):

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html

1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.

Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

Marcus

1) is better.



maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"


Sure, the wording is always changeable.


I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
on highlighting "installation".


Actually I wanted to create a TOC for the release notes. However, it's 
still locked by Herbert or Andre. Then we will have the headlines as 
links and I can use the "Kniwn Issues" as jump label in the URL.



  I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.


That's good.

Marcus

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

Am 07/15/2013 06:48 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt

Hi,

the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.

There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/) But
the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.

I've created them for testing purpose only.

Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?

I would expect that there is an automatism to grep the files from the
Apache Dist folder(s). Was this not the way how it was done for 3.4.x?

Marcus

dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-> contains the src release +
signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries -> contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries -> contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)

Thanks

Juergen

On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
continue the success of OpenOffice.

This release candidate provides the following important changes

compared

to former OpenOffice releases:

(1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination

reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

(2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
interoperability issues

(3) 600 defects are fixed

(4) many more features and improvements are integrated

For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
.

But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
updated and polished ...

The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would

to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ] 0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

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Re: Mac release


On 15.07.2013 18:08, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:


Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

  Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system

complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?

-Andre


[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732


It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
already.

Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
course, it's still intermediate):

http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html

1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.

Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

Marcus

1) is better.


I like 1 better, too.  But it still looks too prominent.  We don't want 
to scare our users (when only a minority will run into this problem).  
Maybe an explanation in the release notes is enough.



maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"

I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
on highlighting "installation".

  I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.


Great thanks.





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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> >> As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
> >> completed.  The release is approved.
> >>
> >> However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
> >> We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
> >> including:
> >>
> >> 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
> >> directories
> >>
> >> 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
> >> much as 24 hours)
> >>
> >> 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
> >>
> >> 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
> >> for translations.
> >>
> >
> > Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?
> >
>
> Personally, I think that is a pain in the ass to convert the wiki
> Release Notes to HTML.  Remember, our goal has been to make the
> Release Notes nicer, with more graphics, etc.  So this is going to
> make conversion more difficult.  But if someone really wants to do
> that, then I have no objections.
>
> -Rob
>

Given our past thread on this, I didn't know what the "decision" was.

For now, we will link to the Community wiki area I guess, and deal with
other issues on this matter later.


>
> >
> >> 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
> >>
> >> The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
> >> we have a few other items to do:
> >>
> >> 5. Update logos on social media sites
> >>
> >> 6. Enable update notification server
> >>
> >> 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
> >>
> >> I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
> >> Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
> >> then.
> >
> >
> > OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation
> >
> >
> >>  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
> >> But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
> >> to go.
> >>
> >> Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
> >> is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
> >> at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
> >> the press coverage.
> >>
> >> We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
> >> items:
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013/7/15 Jürgen Schmidt 

> Hi,
>
> the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
> binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
> special directory for Sourceforge.
>


There is a 4.0.0 "staged" folder set up which is good (
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/)   But
the only files uploaded are some "de" binaries have been uploaded at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/de/
Those are ok, but there are no other files uploaded to SF yet for 4.0.

Is anyone working on uploading all the reaming files?

Roberto


>
> dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-> contains the src release +
> signatures/checksum/hashes
>
> dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -> contains the
> signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
> the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.
>
> dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  -> contains all the
> binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes
>
> A complete file list can be found under
>
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt
>
> rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external
>
> If you have further questions please let me know.
>
> Juergen
>
>
> On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
> > of infra... I will keep you informed
> >
> > Juergen
> >
> > On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >> The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
> >> revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
> >>
> >> The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
> >> member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
> >> were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
> >>
> >> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
> >> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
> >>
> >> Vote tally
> >>
> >> +1 Sylvain Dennis
> >> +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
> >> +1 Fr web forum
> >> +1 V Stuart Foote
> >> +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
> >> +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
> >> +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
> >> +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
> >> +1 Rob Weir (binding)
> >> +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
> >> +1 Joost Andrae
> >> +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
> >> +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
> >> +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
> >> +1 Shengfeng Liu
> >> +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
> >> +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
> >> +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
> >>
> >> 0 Michal Hriň
> >>
> >> -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
> >>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
> >>> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
> >>> continue the success of OpenOffice.
> >>>
> >>> This release candidate provides the following important changes
> compared
> >>> to former OpenOffice releases:
> >>>
> >>> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
> >>> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination
> of
> >>> reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
> >>> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
> >>> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
> >>>
> >>> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
> >>> interoperability issues
> >>>
> >>> (3) 600 defects are fixed
> >>>
> >>> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
> >>>
> >>> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
> .
> >>> But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
> >>> updated and polished ...
> >>>
> >>> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> >>> releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
> >>> review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
> >>>
> >>> The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
> >>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
> >>>
> >>> The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
> >>>
> >>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
> >>>
> >>> The vote starts now and will be open until:
> >>>
> >>>UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
> >>>
> >>> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would
> like
> >>> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> >>> members.
> >>>
> >>>[ ] +1

Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013/7/15 Ricardo Berlasso 

> 2013/7/15 Regina Henschel 
>
>> Hi Ricardo,
>>
>> Ricardo Berlasso schrieb:
>>
>>  A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
>>> candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
>>> pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
>>> describing the problem, so I filled this one:
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122753
>>>
>>> It seems quite serious. What do you think?
>>>
>>
>> That the Bitmap is not inserted is likely a problem with the cache. Set
>> the value in Tools > Options > Memory to for example 12MB Memory per object.
>>
>> The bad display of the rotated jpg-picture might be a moire effect.
>> Please zoom in and see, whether it remains. You might test to switch on/off
>> anti-aliasing in addition. I do not see such effect on my screen.
>>
>
> It's not just a bad display: it is exported to pdf
>
> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/rotation.pdf
>
> But I just see a weird behaviour: Reopening the document, rotation works
> without problems on the fox picture, but if I copy the fox picture → paste
> special as bitmap → get the empty box → rotation fails again on the
> original picture.
>
> Increasing the memory per object does not change this behaviour.
>

I added two new attachments to the issue, one an odg file with the
corrupted image and its source, the other the pdf export.

Regards
Ricardo



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> Ricardo
>
>
>>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

Am 07/15/2013 06:08 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

Hi,

the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.

is this due to the size of the release?

dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-> contains the src release +
signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries -> contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries -> contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

I think this will lead to a different URL than I've used for testing.
Let's see what this will mean for the DL websites. Seems it's the best
to wait and see what will happen on SourceForge to continue any testing.

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

The binaries are in "www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/..."
and also in
"www.apache.org/dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/...". Any
reason for this duplication?

Marcus

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)

Thanks

Juergen

On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi all,

This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
to former OpenOffice releases:

(1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

(2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
interoperability issues

(3) 600 defects are fixed

(4) many more features and improvements are integrated

For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
updated and polished ...

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ] 0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Donald Whytock  wrote:
> Will the new distributor page be opened up in conjunction with the new
> release?
>

We're not ready on the CD distributor thing, if that is what you are
referring to.  But good reminder that this is still an open task.

-Rob

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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
>> completed.  The release is approved.
>>
>> However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
>> We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
>> including:
>>
>> 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
>> directories
>>
>> 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
>> much as 24 hours)
>>
>> 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
>>
>> 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
>> for translations.
>>
>
> Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?
>

Personally, I think that is a pain in the ass to convert the wiki
Release Notes to HTML.  Remember, our goal has been to make the
Release Notes nicer, with more graphics, etc.  So this is going to
make conversion more difficult.  But if someone really wants to do
that, then I have no objections.

-Rob


>
>> 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
>>
>> The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
>> we have a few other items to do:
>>
>> 5. Update logos on social media sites
>>
>> 6. Enable update notification server
>>
>> 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
>>
>> I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
>> Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
>> then.
>
>
> OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation
>
>
>>  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
>> But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
>> to go.
>>
>> Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
>> is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
>> at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
>> the press coverage.
>>
>> We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
>> items:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

2013-07-15 Thread Donald Whytock

Will the new distributor page be opened up in conjunction with the new
release?

Don

Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
> completed.  The release is approved.
>
> However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
> We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
> including:
>
> 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
> directories
>
> 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
> much as 24 hours)
>
> 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
>
> 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
> for translations.
>

Does this mean we'll move English  Release Notes to web as always?


> 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
>
> The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
> we have a few other items to do:
>
> 5. Update logos on social media sites
>
> 6. Enable update notification server
>
> 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
>
> I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
> Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
> then.


OK  - a lot depends on uploads and mirror situation


>  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
> But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
> to go.
>
> Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
> is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
> at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
> the press coverage.
>
> We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
> items:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

On 7/15/13 4:54 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 07/15/2013 04:11 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
>> completed.  The release is approved.
>>
>> However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
>> We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
>> including:
>>
>> 1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution
>> directories
>>
>> 2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
>> much as 24 hours)
>>
>> 3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.
>>
>> 4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
>> for translations.
>>
>> 5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.
>>
>> The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
>> we have a few other items to do:
>>
>> 5. Update logos on social media sites
>>
>> 6. Enable update notification server
>>
>> 7. Follow up blog post +1 week.
>>
>> I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
>> Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
>> then.  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
>> But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
>> to go.
> 
> When Juergen is allowed to upload the release until ~20:00 UTC today,
> then the files can be distributed around the mirrors and I should be
> able to update the DL websites tomorrow evening to be ready until
> Wednesday noon UTC.

files are uploaded, see my reply in the RESULT thread... I put Roberto in cc

Juergen

> 
> For the moment it looks like as it could be possible.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>> Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
>> is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
>> at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
>> the press coverage.
>>
>> We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these
>> items:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread The weird writer


when I try i get a weird error. extract faied 42

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Re: Mac release

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Marcus (OOo)  wrote:

> Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:
>
>  Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
>> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
>> Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
>> notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>>
>> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
>> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
>> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
>> place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
>> if that is possible?
>>
>> -Andre
>>
>>
>> [1] 
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732
>>
>
> It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of
> platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is
> already.
>
> Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of
> course, it's still intermediate):
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index.html
>
> 1) Directly in the main green box.
> 2) In a second sub-green box.
>
> Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.
>
> Marcus
>
> 1) is better.
>

maybe change wording to "Click here for known installation issues"

I know this is going to the Release Notes page...but maybe we should focus
on highlighting "installation".

 I just edited Release Notes to duplicate the Mac OS X info in the
Upgrading/Installing section. Left it in Known Issues as well.


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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

Hi,

the upload is finished already. We agreed on a structure to separate the
binaries from the src release and make the binaries available in a
special directory for Sourceforge.

dist/openoffice/4.0.0/source-> contains the src release +
signatures/checksum/hashes

dist/openoffoce/4.0.0/binaries  -> contains the
signatures/checksum/hashes only. For security reasons we keep them on
the Apache dist folder and provide them from there as in the past.

dist/externaldist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries  -> contains all the
binaries (SDK, full install, lang packs) + signatures/checkssum/hashes

A complete file list can be found under

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_dist_files.txt
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo40_external_dist_files.txt

rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external

If you have further questions please let me know.

Juergen


On 7/15/13 3:55 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
> of infra... I will keep you informed
> 
> Juergen
> 
> On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
>> revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
>>
>> The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
>> member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
>> were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
>>
>> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
>> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
>>
>> Vote tally
>>
>> +1 Sylvain Dennis
>> +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
>> +1 Fr web forum
>> +1 V Stuart Foote
>> +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
>> +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
>> +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
>> +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
>> +1 Rob Weir (binding)
>> +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
>> +1 Joost Andrae
>> +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
>> +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
>> +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
>> +1 Shengfeng Liu
>> +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
>> +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
>> +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
>>
>> 0 Michal Hriň
>>
>> -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
>>> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
>>> continue the success of OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
>>> to former OpenOffice releases:
>>>
>>> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
>>> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
>>> reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
>>> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
>>> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
>>> interoperability issues
>>>
>>> (3) 600 defects are fixed
>>>
>>> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
>>>
>>> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
>>> But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
>>> updated and polished ...
>>>
>>> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
>>> releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
>>> review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
>>>
>>> The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
>>>
>>> The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
>>>
>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
>>>
>>> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>>>
>>>UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
>>> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
>>> members.
>>>
>>>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
>>>[ ]  0 Don't care
>>>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>>>
>>
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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013/7/15 Regina Henschel 

> Hi Ricardo,
>
> Ricardo Berlasso schrieb:
>
>  A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
>> candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
>> pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
>> describing the problem, so I filled this one:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122753
>>
>> It seems quite serious. What do you think?
>>
>
> That the Bitmap is not inserted is likely a problem with the cache. Set
> the value in Tools > Options > Memory to for example 12MB Memory per object.
>
> The bad display of the rotated jpg-picture might be a moire effect. Please
> zoom in and see, whether it remains. You might test to switch on/off
> anti-aliasing in addition. I do not see such effect on my screen.
>

It's not just a bad display: it is exported to pdf

http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/rotation.pdf

But I just see a weird behaviour: Reopening the document, rotation works
without problems on the fox picture, but if I copy the fox picture → paste
special as bitmap → get the empty box → rotation fails again on the
original picture.

Increasing the memory per object does not change this behaviour.

Regards
Ricardo


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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi Ricardo,

Ricardo Berlasso schrieb:

A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
describing the problem, so I filled this one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

It seems quite serious. What do you think?


That the Bitmap is not inserted is likely a problem with the cache. Set 
the value in Tools > Options > Memory to for example 12MB Memory per object.


The bad display of the rotated jpg-picture might be a moire effect. 
Please zoom in and see, whether it remains. You might test to switch 
on/off anti-aliasing in addition. I do not see such effect on my screen.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: Mac release


Am 07/15/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Andre Fischer:

Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the
Apple app store. As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.

I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
place, like the download button for the Mac version. Does anybody know
if that is possible?

-Andre


[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732


It is possible. However I don't like to have an exception for users of 
platform X. This would make the "index.html" more unreadable than it is 
already.


Therefore I've created a general text and link to the release notes (of 
course, it's still intermediate):


http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index.html

1) Directly in the main green box.
2) In a second sub-green box.

Please have a look and tell what you think. IMHO 1) is better.

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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013/7/15 Reizinger Zoltán 

> 2013.07.15. 16:55 keltezéssel, Ricardo Berlasso írta:
>
>  A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
>> candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
>> pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
>> describing the problem, so I filled this one:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122753
>>
> Not attached the example file, which caused the problem.
> Zoltan


Sorry, bugzilla stripped the file without warning when I sent the report...
I tried again and it seems too large so I uploaded it here:

http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/rotation.odg

I added the link on the report.

Regards
Ricardo



>
>
>> It seems quite serious. What do you think?
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
>>
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Re: [Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

2013-07-15 Thread Reizinger Zoltán


2013.07.15. 16:55 keltezéssel, Ricardo Berlasso írta:

A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
describing the problem, so I filled this one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

Not attached the example file, which caused the problem.
Zoltan


It seems quite serious. What do you think?

Regards
Ricardo




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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour

I have opened a new bug, with the version from about in the comments,
please let me know if this is still the same bug.
I did a upgrade from 3.4.1 to 4.0.0. Hiding the side panel did not affect
outcome.

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:21 AM, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
>
>> On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello Dennis,
>>>
>>> it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you right-click
>>> it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I was trying to copy
>>> by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks ago and it hasn't
>>> happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.
>>>
>>
>> This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have introduced
>> (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or removing
>> selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for this bug
>> introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in on July 8th):
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=121479
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122682
>>
>> And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.
>>
>
> OK, that was not very clear :-)
>
> The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.
>
>
>
>> -Andre
>>
>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
>>>
 I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer and
 then copy it."

 Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the
 clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this situation.

 I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

   - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
 Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
 To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Cc: Regina Henschel
 Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

 Hi Regina,

 I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
 next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
 what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

 Max


 Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

> Hi all,
>
> there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
> something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
> The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
> then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.
>
> Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
> Windows 8.
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
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Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement


Am 07/15/2013 04:11 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
completed.  The release is approved.

However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
including:

1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution directories

2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
much as 24 hours)

3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.

4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
for translations.

5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.

The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
we have a few other items to do:

5. Update logos on social media sites

6. Enable update notification server

7. Follow up blog post +1 week.

I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
then.  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
to go.


When Juergen is allowed to upload the release until ~20:00 UTC today, 
then the files can be distributed around the mirrors and I should be 
able to update the DL websites tomorrow evening to be ready until 
Wednesday noon UTC.


For the moment it looks like as it could be possible.

Marcus




Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
the press coverage.

We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these items:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard

Regards,

-Rob


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[Bug 122753]Pictures gets corrupted after rotation on AOO 4.0

A forum user found a problem, not present on 3.4.1, with the release
candidate on Impress. Investigating a bit I reproduced it on Draw too:
pictures get corrupted when rotating them. I did not find any report
describing the problem, so I filled this one:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122753

It seems quite serious. What do you think?

Regards
Ricardo

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour

I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new
bug sorry if its a duplicate.

It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut.  Paste seems to not be
affected.

The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to
reproduce.


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour 
> wrote:
> > I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours
> ago.
> >
> > The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
> > think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
> >
> > Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
> > using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
> > me.
> >
>
> There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
> a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
> but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
> Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
> content.
>
> But you are saying it is "cut" not copy.  I can try that.
>
> Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Here is the bug I opened,
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
> >
> > Samer
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Re: Mac release

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Andre Fischer  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system
> complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the Apple
> app store.  As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release notes for
> AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.
>

We should add this again to Release Notes for 4.0.0 and Install Guide.

>
> I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release
> notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
> I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible
> place, like the download button for the Mac version.  Does anybody know if
> that is possible?
>

I'm not sure about this one. This happens as soon as correct download is
identified by the Download page?


>
> -Andre
>
>
> [1] 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122732
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Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour  wrote:
> I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours ago.
>
> The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
> think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)
>
> Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
> using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
> me.
>

There was some discussion of this on another thread.  Someone reported
a clipboard crash on Windows 8 with an earlier snapshot (not the RC)
but was not able to reproduce it.  I tried yesterday on a clean
Windows 8 install and could not get a crash, copying, pasting, etc.,
content.

But you are saying it is "cut" not copy.  I can try that.

Also, are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 8?

-Rob

> Here is the bug I opened,
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752
>
> Samer

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Re: autocorrect macro?

2013-07-15 Thread Jörg Schmidt

> From: The weird writer [mailto:weirdwriter9...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:41 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: autocorrect macro?
> 
> that Macro does not work with windows. :(

I do not know why, because the macro is for all operating systems under which 
OO runs suitable (e.g. Windows, Linux, MacOS).

*What error message occurs?*



Greetings,
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Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour

I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours ago.

The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I
think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible)

Can anyone copy or cut contents to their system clipboard in windows 8
using the 4.0.0 RC snapshot?  It causes an immediate crash every time for
me.

Here is the bug I opened,
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122752

Samer

Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013/7/14 Kay Schenk 

> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  >wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
> > Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
> > OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
> > continue the success of OpenOffice.
> >
> > This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
> > to former OpenOffice releases:
> >
> > (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
> > where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
> > reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
> > existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
> > Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
> >
> > (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
> > interoperability issues
> >
> > (3) 600 defects are fixed
> >
> > (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
> >
> > For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
> > .
> > But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
> > updated and polished ...
> >
> > The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> > releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
> > review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
> >
> > The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
> > http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
> >
> > The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
> >
> > Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
> >
> > The vote starts now and will be open until:
> >
> >UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
> >
> > But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> > to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> > members.
> >
> >[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
> >[ ]  0 Don't care
> >[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >
>
> +1
>
> good job!!
>

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Re: AOO 4.0 Logo: We're not done yet!

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Kevin Grignon
>  wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I saved the file in Illustrator. Odd it is not loading.
>>
>
> Still no luck getting your version to load.  I tried fixing it in an
> XML editor but I'm still getting validation errors.
>
> I'm using the latest Illustrator (the new Creative Cloud version).
> Also tried latest Inkscape.  Both on Windows.
>
> If you did you work in Illustrator, could you send me the AI file?
> Their native format might be more portable.  I can then try exporting
> to SVG on my machine.
>

Hi Kevin,  We need to move on this now, to update Twitter, Facebook
and Google+ pages with the new logo.  As mentioned before I have not
been able to get your SVG to load.  Please, could you send me the
original AI file?

Thanks!

-Rob


> Thanks!
>
> -Rob
>
>
>> I've prepare all the remaining graphics. See:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Product+Logo+Use for
>> updated owner and status.
>>
>> From what I can tell, all relevant graphics are done.
>>
>> I'm at the airport right now, and won't have time to upload the files.
>> Actually, I don't know where to put them, either on the wiki or in the
>> source control.
>>
>> I'll send them to Rob ;)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:48 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Armin Le Grand 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi Rob,
>>> >
>>> > On 26.06.2013 17:41, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> >
>>> > [stuff deleted]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Kevin sent me an updated SVG file, but I'm having problems opening it in
>>> >> Inkscape or Illustrator.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tried with AOO already...?
>>> >
>>>
>>> No.  It is missing XML name space declarations, so it is not even
>>> well-formed XML..
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> >> But I have posted the PNG of the result to the wiki:
>>> >>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+3+Logo+Refinement
>>> >> Once we have a working SVG file we can move ahead.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2) Alexandro said something about adjusting the colors.  But I'm not
>>> >>> certain I understood that correctly.
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> > [stuff deleted]
>>> >
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Sidebar meta issue is closed


Hi,

the development of the sidebar is finished and the vote for our release 
is over.  Therefore I have closed the sidebar meta issue: bug 121420 now 
has status resolved/fixed.


I would like to thank everybody who has helped to make this happen.  A 
lot of people have contributed including, but not limited to, UX design, 
programming, testing, translation, documentation and discussion 
(providing new ideas).


I think that we did a great job.

Andre

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

On 7/15/13 4:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
>> I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
>> of infra... I will keep you informed
>>
> 
> Is this something special for AOO that we need to get permission from
> Infra to upload?  Is this because of the size of the release?

They wanted to be informed that is at least what I learned from earlier
releases. And yes I believe it is the amount of 22 GB. I informed infra
on Friday that we are planning a release and that the vote will be
finished today. We will see.

Juergen

> 
> -Rob
> 
> 
>> Juergen
>>
>> On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
>>> revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
>>>
>>> The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
>>> member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
>>> were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
>>>
>>> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
>>> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
>>>
>>> Vote tally
>>>
>>> +1 Sylvain Dennis
>>> +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
>>> +1 Fr web forum
>>> +1 V Stuart Foote
>>> +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
>>> +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
>>> +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
>>> +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
>>> +1 Rob Weir (binding)
>>> +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
>>> +1 Joost Andrae
>>> +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
>>> +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
>>> +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
>>> +1 Shengfeng Liu
>>> +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
>>> +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
>>> +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
>>>
>>> 0 Michal Hriň
>>>
>>> -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi all,

 this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
 Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
 OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
 continue the success of OpenOffice.

 This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
 to former OpenOffice releases:

 (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
 where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
 reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
 existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
 Symphony grant in OpenOffice.

 (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
 interoperability issues

 (3) 600 defects are fixed

 (4) many more features and improvements are integrated

 For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
 But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
 updated and polished ...

 The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
 releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
 review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot

 The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html

 The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!

 Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

 The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

 But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
 to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
 members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...

>>>
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Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement

As Juergen pointed out, the AOO 4.0 release vote has successfully
completed.  The release is approved.

However, please *do not* go out and start announcing the release yet.
We need to coordinate a few final steps before this is done,
including:

1. Provisioning the files to the Apache and SourceForge distribution directories

2. Waiting for the files to replicate within the mirror network (as
much as 24 hours)

3. Verify download scripts against actual AOO 4.0 files.

4. Complete the release notes.  Convert them to HTML.  Give some time
for translations.

5. Prepare announcement emails and blog post and webpage.

The above should all be done before we announce.   After we announce,
we have a few other items to do:

5. Update logos on social media sites

6. Enable update notification server

7. Follow up blog post +1 week.

I'd like to recommend that we aim for a noon UTC announcement on
Wednesday, if possible.  That would mean that items 1-5 are complete
then.  Release notes translations can roll in over time if needed.
But we should have the English Release Notes and the other items ready
to go.

Does this make sense?  Am I missing anything?  Anyone think that Wed.
is not possible?  It is better not to make an important announcement
at the end of the week (Thursday or Friday) since that tends to mute
the press coverage.

We should use the Release Dashboard to coordinate the status of these items:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/4.0+Release+Dashboard

Regards,

-Rob

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Jürgen Schmidt  wrote:
> I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
> of infra... I will keep you informed
>

Is this something special for AOO that we need to get permission from
Infra to upload?  Is this because of the size of the release?

-Rob


> Juergen
>
> On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
>> revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
>>
>> The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
>> member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
>> were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
>>
>> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
>> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
>>
>> Vote tally
>>
>> +1 Sylvain Dennis
>> +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
>> +1 Fr web forum
>> +1 V Stuart Foote
>> +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
>> +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
>> +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
>> +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
>> +1 Rob Weir (binding)
>> +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
>> +1 Joost Andrae
>> +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
>> +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
>> +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
>> +1 Shengfeng Liu
>> +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
>> +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
>> +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
>>
>> 0 Michal Hriň
>>
>> -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
>>> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
>>> continue the success of OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
>>> to former OpenOffice releases:
>>>
>>> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
>>> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
>>> reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
>>> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
>>> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
>>>
>>> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
>>> interoperability issues
>>>
>>> (3) 600 defects are fixed
>>>
>>> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
>>>
>>> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
>>> But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
>>> updated and polished ...
>>>
>>> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
>>> releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
>>> review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
>>>
>>> The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
>>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
>>>
>>> The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
>>>
>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
>>>
>>> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>>>
>>>UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
>>>
>>> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
>>> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
>>> members.
>>>
>>>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
>>>[ ]  0 Don't care
>>>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>>>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

I can't start the upload on dist because I have to wait on confirmation
of infra... I will keep you informed

Juergen

On 7/15/13 3:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
> revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.
> 
> The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
> member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
> were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.
> 
> 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
> closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0
> 
> Vote tally
> 
> +1 Sylvain Dennis
> +1 Marco A.G. Pinto
> +1 Fr web forum
> +1 V Stuart Foote
> +1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
> +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
> +1 Kay Schenk (binding)
> +1 Jan Iversen (binding)
> +1 Rob Weir (binding)
> +1 Marcus Lange (binding)
> +1 Joost Andrae
> +1 Donald Harbison (binding)
> +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
> +1 Regina Henschel (binding)
> +1 Shengfeng Liu
> +1 Andre Fischer (binding)
> +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
> +1 Herbert Duerr (binding)
> 
> 0 Michal Hriň
> 
> -1 Raphael Bircher (binding)
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Juergen
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
>> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
>> continue the success of OpenOffice.
>>
>> This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
>> to former OpenOffice releases:
>>
>> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
>> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
>> reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
>> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
>> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
>>
>> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
>> interoperability issues
>>
>> (3) 600 defects are fixed
>>
>> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
>>
>> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
>> But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
>> updated and polished ...
>>
>> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
>> releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
>> review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
>>
>> The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
>> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
>>
>> The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
>>
>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
>>
>> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>>
>>UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
>>
>> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
>> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
>> members.
>>
>>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
>>[ ]  0 Don't care
>>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>>
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[RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

The vote period to release the RC (based on release branch AOO40,
revison 1502185) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended.

The ballot result in 20 votes, 18 +1 votes including 12 binding PMC
member votes. One abstain vote and one -1 vote based on an issue that
were not clear. Nobody was able to reproduce the problem.

3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot
closed successful to release the RC as AOO 4.0

Vote tally

+1 Sylvain Dennis
+1 Marco A.G. Pinto
+1 Fr web forum
+1 V Stuart Foote
+1 Armin Le Grand (binding)
+1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding)
+1 Kay Schenk (binding)
+1 Jan Iversen (binding)
+1 Rob Weir (binding)
+1 Marcus Lange (binding)
+1 Joost Andrae
+1 Donald Harbison (binding)
+1 Andrea Pescetti (binding)
+1 Regina Henschel (binding)
+1 Shengfeng Liu
+1 Andre Fischer (binding)
+1 Juergen Schmidt (binding)
+1 Herbert Duerr (binding)

0 Michal Hriň

-1 Raphael Bircher (binding)



Thanks

Juergen



On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
> continue the success of OpenOffice.
> 
> This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
> to former OpenOffice releases:
> 
> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
> reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
> 
> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
> interoperability issues
> 
> (3) 600 defects are fixed
> 
> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
> 
> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
> But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
> updated and polished ...
> 
> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
> review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
> 
> The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
> 
> The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
> 
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
> 
> The vote starts now and will be open until:
> 
>UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
> 
> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> members.
> 
>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
>[ ]  0 Don't care
>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> 


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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Herbert Duerr


On 12.07.2013 11:11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


+1 release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0

Herbert

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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

On 7/12/13 11:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
> continue the success of OpenOffice.
> 
> This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
> to former OpenOffice releases:
> 
> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
> reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
> 
> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
> interoperability issues
> 
> (3) 600 defects are fixed
> 
> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
> 
> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes.
> But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
> updated and polished ...
> 
> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
> review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
> 
> The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
> 
> The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
> 
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
> 
> The vote starts now and will be open until:
> 
>UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
> 
> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> members.
> 
>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
>[ ]  0 Don't care
>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> 

+1 for releasing this RC as AOO 4.0

I have made many tests on my own, including a complete build of the src
release under MacOS and verifying the signature etc.

We can always do better and can fix more bugs but the overall situation
will not change. It will be always the same.

Please continue to verify translations and improve it, it's not wasted
time. These improvements will go in the next release. The same for the
new file type and application icons. We should continue the good work
and should integrate it asap on trunk.

Juergen



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4.0.0_release_blocker denied: [Bug 121754] Build HSQLDB with JDK 7

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla

j...@apache.org has denied  4.0.0_release_blocker:
Bug 121754: Build HSQLDB with JDK 7
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121754


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
remove showstopper request because we currently build our release not with Java
7

For 4.1 I propose to switch completely to Java 7 and change our build
dependencies accordingly.

But for now this is no stopper issue for me.

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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)


Hi,

I downloaded the source release candidate, verified the MD5 and SHA256 
checksums, and built it on Windows 7.  All without problems. Therefore:


+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0


Regards,
Andre



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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Shenfeng Liu

No release blocking issues found according to my testing in Windows 7.
Feel a little pity that 2 of my opened defects not fixed in 4.0. But I
believe it is more important to deliver 4.0 with so many valuable features
ASAP. And we can keep continuous delivery to have more enhancement step by
step after 4.0.
So:

+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0


- Shenfeng (Simon)



2013/7/12 Jürgen Schmidt 

> Hi all,
>
> this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
> Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
> OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
> continue the success of OpenOffice.
>
> This release candidate provides the following important changes compared
> to former OpenOffice releases:
>
> (1) a major UI change/improvement by introducing a new sidebar concept
> where the idea is the comes from IBM's Symphony. It's the combination of
> reimplementing a complete new framework for sidebars and merging the
> existing sidebar in impress and code of various content panels from the
> Symphony grant in OpenOffice.
>
> (2) 190 fixes from Symphony are merged and integrated, mainly
> interoperability issues
>
> (3) 600 defects are fixed
>
> (4) many more features and improvements are integrated
>
> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes
> .
> But keep in mind that the release notes are not yet final and will be
> updated and polished ...
>
> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
> releases for 23 languages) and further information how to verify and
> review Apache OpenOffice 4.0 can be found on the following wiki page:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshot
>
> The related RAT scan for this RC can be found under
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo-4.0.0_rat/aoo-4.0.0_rat-output.html
>
> The RC is based on the release branch AOO400, revision 1502185!
>
> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.
>
> The vote starts now and will be open until:
>
>UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.
>
> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
> members.
>
>[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
>[ ]  0 Don't care
>[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
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4.0.0_release_blocker denied: [Bug 122733] Opening Hybrid PDF document fails, brings up ASCII filter options dialog

2013-07-15 Thread bugzilla

j...@apache.org has denied Rainer Bielefeld
's request for
4.0.0_release_blocker:
Bug 122733: Opening Hybrid PDF document fails, brings up ASCII filter options
dialog
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122733


--- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org
no showstopper, but a feature request to make the hybrid PDF reading
independent of the PDF import extensions

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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi,

Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:

Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. This will be an important release for Apache
OpenOffice with bigger visible UI changes. It is a key milestone to
continue the success of OpenOffice.

[..]


Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0.

The vote starts now and will be open until:

UTC at noon on Monday, 15 July: 2013-07-15 12:00 UTC.

But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


There a some errors in the German translations (already fixed on 
Pootle), but not so severe to not release German version.


Nobody could reproduce the crash.

So all together my vote:
+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0

Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC)

2013-07-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 12/07/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

this is a call for vote on releasing the following release candidate as
Apache OpenOffice 4.0. ...
[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


+1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 4.0

Andrea

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit


On 15.07.2013 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.


OK, that was not very clear :-)

The bug *fix* is in the release and therefore the bug is not.



-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer 
and then copy it."


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
Regina

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Mac release


Hi,

Issue 122732 [1]reminded me of the problem on Mac where the system 
complains that the AOO installation packaged does not come from the 
Apple app store.  As Ariel pointed out, this is covered in the release 
notes for AOO 3.4.0 and 3.4.1.


I am not sure that that many users would find the note in the release 
notes, follow the link to the solution and fix it.
I wonder if it would be a good idea to explain this at a more visible 
place, like the download button for the Mac version.  Does anybody know 
if that is possible?


-Andre


[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122732

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Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit


On 14.07.2013 22:34, Max Merbald wrote:


Hello Dennis,

it's as you said, you select a part in the text and then you 
right-click it and click "copy", i. e. in my case it happened when I 
was trying to copy by mouse. But as I said it happened several weeks 
ago and it hasn't happened again since. My OS is Win8 64 bit too.


This may very well have been caused by a regression bug I have 
introduced (and later fixed).  It was usually triggered by copying or 
removing selected text in Writer.  The issues are 121479 (the fix for 
this bug introduced the regression) and 122682 (fix for it, checked in 
on July 8th):


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121479
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122682

And just to be clear, this has been fixed and is not in the release.

-Andre



Max


Am 14.07.2013 22:14, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
I don't quite understand what this means: "mark something in Writer 
and then copy it."


Is this about selecting something in Writer and copying it to the 
clip-board?  Or is there some other action that reproduces this 
situation.


I can test this in Windows 8 x64.

  - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Max Merbald [mailto:max.merb...@gmx.de]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:01 AM
To:dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Regina Henschel
Subject: Re: Installation on Windows 8, 64bit

Hi Regina,

I reported the same thing on June 22, but I couldn't reproduce it the
next day. That was not the RC of course but build 9701. I have no idea
what caused it. It doesn't happen right now either, I just tried again.

Max


Am 14.07.2013 19:36, schrieb Regina Henschel:

Hi all,

there is a mail on the German list, which describes a crash when mark
something in Writer and then copy it. (Which would be a show-stopper.)
The poster has deinstalled OOo3.4.1 and all previous snapshots and
then installed the RC. OS is Windows 8, 64 bit.

Can someone test it with this conditions? Unfortunately I haven't got
Windows 8.

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [DISCUSS] New localization requirements policy needed for releases

2013-07-15 Thread Herbert Duerr


On 15.07.2013 09:19, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 7/15/13 9:04 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 14/07/2013 Rob Weir wrote:

In this specific case, for AOO 4.0,  I'm suggesting we release any
additional languages that are 100% on September 16th.  This is similar
to what we did for AOO 3.4.1.  After that date I think we then wait
for AOO 4.1.


Releasing a new language should be rather easy and repeatable, so it is
something that we can do once a month (but I can understand that August
may be problematic due to holidays).

Ideally, we should have a monthly update, say around mid-month, where we:

1) Release new languages (of course, based on the same code revision as
4.0, exactly as done for 3.4.1) that have reached 100% UI translation.

2) Formally unrelated to #1, we make (unreleased) dev snapshots
available of languages that have UI at 75-99%.


People should work on a reliable build bot infra structure that can
provide builds for all major platforms (Linux, Windows, MacOS). And then
we can configure more languages on demand.


Currently the Windows buildbot of the SNAPSHOT tag does a weekly full 
build of all languages:

  http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#winsnap
Is any fully translated language missing from that list? Should 
semi-translated languages be built too?


Yes, we should build all languages on all other platforms too. But we 
don't have a Mac buildbot yet and until the build baseline is increased 
to XCode4 that will probably have to stay so. On the Linux64 things look 
much better but disk space on that buildbot used to be a problem. The 
Linux32 buildbot needs to be set up, but from a localization perspective 
its build result it is indistinguishable from the Linux64 build.


Also FreeBSD buildbot would be possible, but AFAIK Maho is working on a 
tinderbox build there, so setting up a buildbot would probably be wasted 
work. Also getting buildbots for OS/2 or Solaris X86 or Sparc just for 
the localized snapshot builds is probably wasted work unless there is a 
number of translators that only test on these platforms.


Herbert


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