Re: Windows build woes

2017-08-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Regardless of anything else you do, retry the full build, without 
cleaning but also without specifying starting from the failure.


Sometimes the windows builds don't seem to get all the dependency 
ordering right. If that is the cause of the failure, repeating the build 
can resolve it. For example, my last windows build of 4.1.4 took three 
tries.



On 8/8/2017 8:16 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Getting errors when building under Win7:

[ build RES ] apr-util/default
[ build RES ]
R=c:/cygwin/home/jim/src/asf/aoo-414 && O=$R/main/solver/414/wntmsci12 && 
W=$R/main/solver/414/wntmsci12/workdir && S=$R/main &&  $O/bin/makedepend.exe -I. 
-IC:/cygwin$O/inc/stl -IC:/cygwin$O/inc/external -IC:/cygwin$O/inc -IC:/cygwin$S/solenv/wntmsci12/inc 
-IC:/cygwin$S/solenv/inc -IC:/cygwin$S/res -IC:/AOO41X~1/OPENJD~1.0_U/include/win32 
-IC:/AOO41X~1/OPENJD~1.0_U/include -IC:/MICROS~1/Windows/v7.0/include -IC:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC/include 
-IC:/AOO41X~1/dxsdk/include -IC:/AOO41X~1/dxsdk/include  -DWINVER=0x0400 -DWIN32  -DADDITIONAL_VERINFO1 
-DADDITIONAL_VERINFO2 -DADDITIONAL_VERINFO3  $W/Dep/WinResTarget/apr-util/default.d -f - | awk -f 
C:/cygwin$S/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk -v OBJECTFILE=$W/WinResTarget/apr-util/default.res -v OUTDIR=$O/ -v 
WORKDIR=$W/ -v SRCDIR=$S/ -v REPODIR=$R/ > $W/Dep/WinResTarget/apr-util/default.d
awk: fatal: can't open source file 
`C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/home/jim/src/asf/aoo-414/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk'
 for reading (No such file or directory)
make: *** 
[C:/cygwin/home/jim/src/asf/aoo-414/main/solenv/gbuild/WinResTarget.mk:60: 
/home/jim/src/asf/aoo-414/main/solver/414/wntmsci12/workdir/WinResTarget/apr-util/default.res]
 Error 2
dmake:  Error code 2, while making './wntmsci12/misc/build/so_built_aprutil'

1 module(s):
 apr-util
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/home/jim/src/asf/aoo-414/ext_libraries/apr-util

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by 
running:

 build --from apr-util

awk is gawk as required... The filename 
'C:/cygwinc:/cygwin/home/jim/src/asf/aoo-414/main/solenv/gbuild/processdeps.awk'
look wonky as crud.
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Release process

2017-08-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Reminder: Please add the steps that were taken to get Jim able to grant 
release blocker for 4.1.4 to the "How to Cook a Release" page at 
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Re: Save process and files turned to hashes

2017-07-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
This issue is my current focus, so the analysis is very valuable and 
timely. It seems likely that there is a common problem, applying to both 
documents and profiles, of AOO believing it has finished writing 
something too early.


Unfortunately, I don't think we have any developers who are familiar 
with AOO's file write code. I am trying to learn my way around it, but 
that may take some time.


It would be useful to have a survey of the configurations in which these 
problems happen. Are they associated with specific operating systems? 
More prevalent with network drives?


Would it be useful for me to read the original thread, or is this an 
effective summary?


On 7/31/2017 9:39 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

John_Ha, a valued contributor to the OO User Forum, has asked me to post this 
to the developer list.  It is a continuation of a previous thread with the same 
title at
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg15177.html

---
John_Ha writes

I think that the hashtags are misleading.

The problem is that occasionally Writer creates a flat ASCII file which is full 
of NULL characters and saves the file as a .odt file.

This .odt file is NOT a zipped file and it does NOT have any of the usual (content.xml or 
styles.xml) files. This .odt file is just a flat ASCII file, often very large (the same 
size as the original document?), but completely full of NULL characters. Go to 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?i=pm=view=0=11590 for an 
example file - crappyfile.odt is 24 kBytes of NULL characters.

Go to [Hint] How did I fix my ODT file at 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=1532. The thread has 
been viewed 194,820 times suggesting this is a serious problem of considerable 
interest to users. No other thread in the forum has been read as often.

When the user attempts to open what is effectively a flat ASCII file, Writer 
recognises it is an ASCII file and opens it as if it was a .txt file, and 
offers the filter pop-up. The NULL characters are then displayed as hashtags.

I think that the questions the developers ought to be asking include:

1 At what point in the save process is space on the disk reserved to write the 
.odt file?

2 Why is this space full of NULL characters - why isn't it random junk from the 
disk? How are the NULL characters written?

3 What happens to prevent the genuine file being written?

4 Why is the file full of NULL characters saved as a .odt file?

5 How can Writer save a file as a .odt file which is not a ZIP file? Why was 
the ZIP process not activated before the file was saved?

6 Note that Writer continues to write to the disk long after (as much as 30 
seconds after on a slow network installation) the blue dotted bar crossing the 
bottom of the screen has stopped. Does this have an effect? What happens if 
something interrupts Writer while it is doing these silent writes?

7 There are many, many problems seen on the forum (e.g. spell check stops 
working) which are fixed by creating a new User Profile. As parts of the User 
Profile (eg registrymodifications.xcu and others) seem to get written AFTER the 
.odt file has been written, is a corrupted User Profile a manifestation of the 
same, or similar, problem?

8 Can the .odt file be written as an atomic process such that either "the file as it was when 
it opened for editing" is saved; or "the file as it is now" is saved. Note that the 
temporary file C:\Users\my_name\AppData\Local\Temp\svftc2x7.tmp\svftdera.tmp (or similar random 
name) is a copy of the .odt file as it was opened; and is only deleted when the file is saved. Can 
a check be made and this temporary file not be deleted until it is known that the proper .odt file 
has been successfully saved?

9 It is only GUESSING which suggests that over hasty shutting of a laptop lid could be 
the cause of this. I struggle to see how this could cause it because I understood that 
hibernation / shutting a laptop lid causes a graceful shut down, and not one where data 
might be lost. If this is the problem, then is the long delay after the blue bar has 
ceased causing the problem, and any data waiting to be written is lost? Does Writer 
handle the "graceful shutdown" instruction from Windows properly?

10 I also think that USB sticks are a red-herring. Later versions of Windows 
come with the default setting of not using cacheing (the user has to switch it 
on) so USB sticks can be withdrawn very soon.

In conclusion: I think it needs an analysis of what happens during a Save to 
understand

a) at what point is a large, flat ASCII file full of NULL characters created?

b) how can this file be saved as a .odt file when .odt files are ZIPped files?

I think that this analysis will lead to a better understanding of where the 
problem lies.

John_Ha
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Re: Building OO

2017-07-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Apache Ant(TM) version 1.9.6 compiled on June 29 2015

On 7/20/2017 9:20 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Patricia, could you tell me which version of Apache Ant you are using?

Matthias

Am 20.07.2017 um 16:02 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

As another data point, I just did a clean checkout of the trunk and
built it on Windows 8.1. Here are my configure parameters:

SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure \
  --enable-symbols \
  --disable-strip-solver \
 --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
 --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
 --with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
 --disable-directx \
 --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant" \

--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
\

--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz;
\
 --disable-pch \
 --disable-atl \
 --disable-activex \
 --without-junit \
 --with-package-format="archive installed" \
 --with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_79"

Two lines, --enable-symbols and --disable-strip-solver, are related to
doing debug builds.


On 7/20/2017 3:35 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi Matthias

As I posted earlier in this thread, this is how I build it:
32 bit VirtualBox VM
Windows XP
SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH"
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin"
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.6"
--with-dmake-url="http://dmake.apache-extras.org.
codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" --with-epm-url="http://www.
msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz" --enable-pch
--disable-atl
--disable-activex --with-junit="/cygdrive/c/source/junit.jar"
--with-hamcrest-core="/cygdrive/c/source/hamcrest.jar"
--with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio
9.0/VC"
--with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5"
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Java/jdk1.7.0"
--disable-directx
--with-package-format="installed" --enable-wiki-publisher

Please let us know what you find.

Regards
Damjan

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Matthias Seidel <
matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:


Hi Damjan,

Since I am not the only one with these errors, wouldn't it be easier if
you tell us your configuration and let us see what is different?
I know the Windows buildbot could build from trunk (when it was
functional) , but I see no real difference in the configuration.

I think we are all following the steps described here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_
Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10

If you do something different, could you update the Wiki?

Regards, Matthias


Am 20.07.2017 um 12:13 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Since I am the main gbuild developer and Windows always builds for me,

and

I cannot reproduce your problem, I only see the following solution.

svn log -v > /path/to/log.txt
(so you have an offline log.txt for easy future reference)
Look through log.txt, go to early 2015 or so.
Find a revision you want to try, and switch to it and try build it. I

think

it was:
svn update -r 
then clean the tree and try build.

When you find a revision that builds that way, do the equivalent of
"git
bisect" between that revision and the latest revision, ie. go to a

revision

about halfway between then and now, "svn update -r ..." and build, and

keep

bisecting until you find the last working revision, then post the

details.


It will probably take a long time, and a dozen or so attempted builds,

but

once you find it, it should allow us to narrow down the problem and

figure

out what went wrong.

Damjan

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Matthias Seidel <
matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:


Hi,

When building trunk (on Windows) I get exactly the same errors...

Branch 414 builds just fine (with Java 7):
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-414-Test/

Regards, Matthias


Am 20.07.2017 um 04:56 schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor:

I’ve took another try to build OO on W7 x32
But got same errors, as on W8 x64
May be I missed some prerequisites?

Errors are in modules gtest, xml2cmp, salhelper, udm
Cygwin seems to have bug on Windows as it only  shows full error
text

when resized to some size… So path to missed file is not full.

The gtest.h is in place, why gb_Deliver_deliver cannot find it?

$ build --all:gtest
build -- version: 1775979


=
Building module gtest
=

Entering /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/ext_libraries/gtest

mkdir: cannot create directory './wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/

gtest-1.7.0/':

File exists

C:/source/aoo-trunk/main/sol

Re: Building OO

2017-07-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan
As another data point, I just did a clean checkout of the trunk and 
built it on Windows 8.1. Here are my configure parameters:


SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure \
 --enable-symbols \
 --disable-strip-solver \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--disable-directx \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant" \

--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2; 
\


--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz; 
\

--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--without-junit \
--with-package-format="archive installed" \
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_79"

Two lines, --enable-symbols and --disable-strip-solver, are related to 
doing debug builds.



On 7/20/2017 3:35 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi Matthias

As I posted earlier in this thread, this is how I build it:
32 bit VirtualBox VM
Windows XP
SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure --with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" --with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH"
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" --with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/apache-ant-1.9.6"
--with-dmake-url="http://dmake.apache-extras.org.
codespot.com/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2" --with-epm-url="http://www.
msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz" --enable-pch --disable-atl
--disable-activex --with-junit="/cygdrive/c/source/junit.jar"
--with-hamcrest-core="/cygdrive/c/source/hamcrest.jar"
--with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC"
--with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5"
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Java/jdk1.7.0" --disable-directx
--with-package-format="installed" --enable-wiki-publisher

Please let us know what you find.

Regards
Damjan

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Matthias Seidel <
matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:


Hi Damjan,

Since I am not the only one with these errors, wouldn't it be easier if
you tell us your configuration and let us see what is different?
I know the Windows buildbot could build from trunk (when it was
functional) , but I see no real difference in the configuration.

I think we are all following the steps described here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_
Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10

If you do something different, could you update the Wiki?

Regards, Matthias


Am 20.07.2017 um 12:13 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

Since I am the main gbuild developer and Windows always builds for me,

and

I cannot reproduce your problem, I only see the following solution.

svn log -v > /path/to/log.txt
(so you have an offline log.txt for easy future reference)
Look through log.txt, go to early 2015 or so.
Find a revision you want to try, and switch to it and try build it. I

think

it was:
svn update -r 
then clean the tree and try build.

When you find a revision that builds that way, do the equivalent of "git
bisect" between that revision and the latest revision, ie. go to a

revision

about halfway between then and now, "svn update -r ..." and build, and

keep

bisecting until you find the last working revision, then post the

details.


It will probably take a long time, and a dozen or so attempted builds,

but

once you find it, it should allow us to narrow down the problem and

figure

out what went wrong.

Damjan

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Matthias Seidel <
matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:


Hi,

When building trunk (on Windows) I get exactly the same errors...

Branch 414 builds just fine (with Java 7):
https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-414-Test/

Regards, Matthias


Am 20.07.2017 um 04:56 schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor:

I’ve took another try to build OO on W7 x32
But got same errors, as on W8 x64
May be I missed some prerequisites?

Errors are in modules gtest, xml2cmp, salhelper, udm
Cygwin seems to have bug on Windows as it only  shows full error text

when resized to some size… So path to missed file is not full.

The gtest.h is in place, why gb_Deliver_deliver cannot find it?

$ build --all:gtest
build -- version: 1775979


=
Building module gtest
=

Entering /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/ext_libraries/gtest

mkdir: cannot create directory './wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/

gtest-1.7.0/':

File exists

C:/source/aoo-trunk/main/solenv/gbuild/Package.mk:28: ***

gb_Deliver_deliver: file does not exist in solver, and cannot be deli.
Stop.nk/main/solver/420/wntmsci12.pro/inc/gtest/gtest.h

dmake:  Error code 2, while making './wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/

so_built_oo_gtest'

1 module(s):
 gtest
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/

ext_libraries/gtest

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build

by running:

 

Re: Ide for Open Office (was Building OO)

2017-07-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I use Visual Studio as a debug tool, and sometimes as an editor. I do my 
builds in a Cygwin shell, following 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10 
instructions.


I edit using either gvim or Visual Studio depending on which is more 
convenient.


On 7/18/2017 11:18 PM, Peter kovacs wrote:

There is no uniform answer, since one works as he like. I don't think we change 
the policy.
However we have a guide for Eclipse on wiki. Which will give you a very basic 
IDE support.
I would like to use intelliJ, but the IDE does not support java and C/C++ at 
the same time. However a feature request has been made, and the creator company 
plans the support somewhere in the future.
You could try qtcreator, but I do not know how much the IDE can be extended 
towards our needs.

So I decided to hopp at Eclipse, since it has the best support today. I am 
thinking about a special IDE plugin. But I have not made much progress. Still 
bound to vi and command-line.

Patricia is using Visual Studio on Windows I think. How is it helping?

All the best
Peter

Am 19. Juli 2017 07:35:42 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor 
:

Yes, sure, I mean IDE

-- Исходное сообщение --
От: "Peter Kovacs" 
Кому: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Отправлено: 19.07.2017 14:51:57
Тема: Re: Re[5]: Building OO


Hello,

Do you mean by dev environment an IDE?

All the best
Peter

Am 19. Juli 2017 02:50:48 MESZ schrieb Yemelyanenko Fyodor
:

Hello!

I've switched to Ubuntu 14.04 mini with xubuntu-desktop and xrdp
installed
And OO built successfully! :-)

Now trying to do the same on W7 x32.

As Id like to deep dive into OO development, could you please share
what dev environment do you use on Ubuntu and on W7 (I believe, that
I'll finally success in building OO on Windows).
Any thoughts on establishing dev environment will be appreciated.

--
Fyodor

-- Исходное сообщение --
От: "Емельяненко Федор"
>
Кому: "Damjan Jovanovic"

>

Копия: "Apache OO"
>
Отправлено: 04.07.2017 12:57:52
Тема: Re[4]: Building OO

I use following config script

./configure \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant110/apache-ant-1.10.1" \
--with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_1" \
--with-csc-path="C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5" \
--with-cl-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC" \
--with-asm-home="C:/PROGRA~2/MICROS~1.0/VC/bin" \
--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
\
--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz;
\
--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--disable-nss-module \
--without-junit \
--disable-directx

On Windows 8.1 64 bit Hyper-v VM

Full jdk path C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.8.0_131
CL home C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC
Asm home C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC\bin

I've tried to rebuild with following script (full path) with no
success

./configure \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant110/apache-ant-1.10.1" \
   --with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files

(x86)/Java/jdk1.8.0_131"

\
   

--with-csc-path="/cygdrive/c/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v3.5"

\
--with-cl-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
Studio
9.0/VC" \
--with-asm-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
Studio 9.0/VC/bin" \
--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
\
--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz;
\
--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--disable-nss-module \
--without-junit \
--disable-directx

Now I have error on module gtest...

dmake: Error code 2, while making
'./wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so_built_oo_gtest'

1 module(s):
gtest
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/cygdrive/c/source/aoo-trunk/ext_libraries/gtest

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the

build

by running:

build --all:gtest

-- Исходное сообщение --
От: "Damjan Jovanovic" >
Кому: "Yemelyanenko Fyodor"
>
Копия: "Apache OO"
>
Отправлено: 02.07.2017 16:46:09
Тема: Re: Re[2]: Building OO

I just succeeded in building trunk with:

32 bit VirtualBox VM
Windows XP
SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft 

Re: AOO 4.1.4 Cannot access to Options Security macros

2017-06-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Would it make sense to put the "official" configuration options in "How 
to Cook a Release"? It would make it more of a one-stop shop for the 
release construction information.



On 6/23/2017 8:14 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Am 23.06.2017 um 16:44 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:

You don't need the whole of Mozilla, just NSS. Leaving out
--disable-nss-module should be enough.


With simply leaving it out I get this error message:

checking whether to build the internal NSS module... yes
checking for Mozilla build tooling... configure: error:
Mozilla build tooling not found!
   It is required for NSS that is needed for AOO's security facilities.
   Either disable NSS using the option --disable-nss-module
   or use the --with-mozilla-build option after installing the tool obtained
   from http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mozilla/libraries/win32

Thinking of it, that was the reason why I disabled it first... ;-)

Matthias



On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Matthias Seidel "Security">  the button "macros security " has not
effect.

Tested under windows 10 (1607) family.

Regards.









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Re: AOO 4.1.4 Cannot access to Options Security macros

2017-06-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have reproduced the problem in my US English 4.1.4, and also a debug 
build based on the trunk but with additional 4.1.4 changes.


On 6/23/2017 7:01 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi!

Confirmed on Windows 7.

These builds are primarily meant for testing the build process and the
different configure options.
And I know, that they do not upgrade dictionaries via extension manager...

Next try... ;-)

Regards, Matthias


Am 23.06.2017 um 10:07 schrieb Didier Lamare:

Hello,


I am testing the french version of AOO 414 dowloaded from here
:https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/ version : test

In the menu "Options">"Security">  the button "macros security " has
not effect.

Tested under windows 10 (1607) family.

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Re: A refactoring proposal

2017-06-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan


On 6/18/2017 5:51 AM, Carl Marcum wrote:

On 06/17/2017 01:52 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

Without going into details here, some recently fixed security issues
have related to the use of fixed size arrays without bounds checks.

In general, that is not a very robust programming practice. It depends
on careful checking in the source code to prevent array overflow.

I suggest a project to replace raw arrays with Standard Template Library
classes as appropriate. All accesses should be through safe functions
such as std::array::at. In some cases we could replace a limited size
but large array with e.g. a std::vector that can start small and grow
only as needed.

This matches nicely with my observations of volunteers. We are not
getting many people with the skills and experience to dive into a
very large body of code and debug it. We are getting students and
early career programmers who could work on something like this. It
might also be a viable Google Summer of Code project.


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That sounds like a good idea.

Do you think the calls may be common enough to find with a search to get 
a list of files to look in?


Array access, including unchecked index access to STL array-like
structures, can be identified by the use of '[.*]' bracketed
expressions. STL access with bounds checking uses function call syntax
instead of overloaded array access syntax.

That is going to get a lot of hits so some prioritization is needed.

I suggest working first on files that have been culprits in
array-related security problems we have fixed. We know those use fixed
size arrays and were written or edited by people who did not always
check the bounds. I would then work out to other files in the same
modules, and then anything involved in building internal structures from
input files.

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Re: A refactoring proposal

2017-06-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan

In that case, we are talking about the same class. std::array is
defined in header . See 
http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/container/array


On 6/17/2017 9:58 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

The book says it is in .
The book is about C++11, providing a quick reference on C++.
I cam across when I saw this youtube video: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86xWVb4XIyE
And since I learned C++ in the 90ies, but never used it I thought it is 
a good invest.


Am 18.06.2017 um 01:06 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I don't know. I have not read that particular book. If the code
snippet includes "using namespace std" then "array" means "std::array".

I have a time gap in my C++ experience - I used it professionally in the
1980's, and now I'm coming back to it for AOO. I don't think the
Standard Template Library came into wide use until the 1990's.

At this point I think we should use the STL for the next layer of data
structures above raw arrays, including arrays with bounds checking. I
have not heard of a competing library and I do not like to roll my own
if I can possibly avoid it.


On 6/17/2017 3:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

+1

I have a question thought. In Tour of C++ (Bjarn Stroustrup) its 
recommended to use array instead of buildin arrays and only to use 
Arrays if we know the amount of elements (constexpr).


buildin arrays example:  Circle myarray[10]
array example: array<Circle,10> myarray

so std::array::at is equal to the arrayexample?
sorry if the question is dumb. I am not sure if what I know is the 
same what you talk about.

I am in the "early carrier" category. lol.

All the best
Peter

Am 17.06.2017 um 19:52 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Without going into details here, some recently fixed security issues
have related to the use of fixed size arrays without bounds checks.

In general, that is not a very robust programming practice. It depends
on careful checking in the source code to prevent array overflow.

I suggest a project to replace raw arrays with Standard Template 
Library

classes as appropriate. All accesses should be through safe functions
such as std::array::at. In some cases we could replace a limited size
but large array with e.g. a std::vector that can start small and grow
only as needed.

This matches nicely with my observations of volunteers. We are not
getting many people with the skills and experience to dive into a
very large body of code and debug it. We are getting students and
early career programmers who could work on something like this. It
might also be a viable Google Summer of Code project.


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Re: A refactoring proposal

2017-06-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan

I don't know. I have not read that particular book. If the code
snippet includes "using namespace std" then "array" means "std::array".

I have a time gap in my C++ experience - I used it professionally in the
1980's, and now I'm coming back to it for AOO. I don't think the
Standard Template Library came into wide use until the 1990's.

At this point I think we should use the STL for the next layer of data
structures above raw arrays, including arrays with bounds checking. I
have not heard of a competing library and I do not like to roll my own
if I can possibly avoid it.


On 6/17/2017 3:50 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

+1

I have a question thought. In Tour of C++ (Bjarn Stroustrup) its 
recommended to use array instead of buildin arrays and only to use 
Arrays if we know the amount of elements (constexpr).


buildin arrays example:  Circle myarray[10]
array example: array<Circle,10> myarray

so std::array::at is equal to the arrayexample?
sorry if the question is dumb. I am not sure if what I know is the same 
what you talk about.

I am in the "early carrier" category. lol.

All the best
Peter

Am 17.06.2017 um 19:52 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Without going into details here, some recently fixed security issues
have related to the use of fixed size arrays without bounds checks.

In general, that is not a very robust programming practice. It depends
on careful checking in the source code to prevent array overflow.

I suggest a project to replace raw arrays with Standard Template Library
classes as appropriate. All accesses should be through safe functions
such as std::array::at. In some cases we could replace a limited size
but large array with e.g. a std::vector that can start small and grow
only as needed.

This matches nicely with my observations of volunteers. We are not
getting many people with the skills and experience to dive into a
very large body of code and debug it. We are getting students and
early career programmers who could work on something like this. It
might also be a viable Google Summer of Code project.


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Re: A refactoring proposal

2017-06-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Another useful project would indeed be warning removal. The reason for
putting bounds checking ahead of it is that I have not yet seen a
security bug that would have been fixed by warning removal.

On 6/17/2017 3:01 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Patricia,

I am not a programmer, but looking at the screen when building AOO I see
a lot of messages that make me think that the code could need a review...

Your suggestion sounds very reasonable to me!

Kind regards, Matthias


Am 17.06.2017 um 19:52 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Without going into details here, some recently fixed security issues
have related to the use of fixed size arrays without bounds checks.

In general, that is not a very robust programming practice. It depends
on careful checking in the source code to prevent array overflow.

I suggest a project to replace raw arrays with Standard Template Library
classes as appropriate. All accesses should be through safe functions
such as std::array::at. In some cases we could replace a limited size
but large array with e.g. a std::vector that can start small and grow
only as needed.

This matches nicely with my observations of volunteers. We are not
getting many people with the skills and experience to dive into a
very large body of code and debug it. We are getting students and
early career programmers who could work on something like this. It
might also be a viable Google Summer of Code project.


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A refactoring proposal

2017-06-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Without going into details here, some recently fixed security issues
have related to the use of fixed size arrays without bounds checks.

In general, that is not a very robust programming practice. It depends
on careful checking in the source code to prevent array overflow.

I suggest a project to replace raw arrays with Standard Template Library
classes as appropriate. All accesses should be through safe functions
such as std::array::at. In some cases we could replace a limited size
but large array with e.g. a std::vector that can start small and grow
only as needed.

This matches nicely with my observations of volunteers. We are not
getting many people with the skills and experience to dive into a
very large body of code and debug it. We are getting students and
early career programmers who could work on something like this. It
might also be a viable Google Summer of Code project.


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Re: Failing to build 4.1.4

2017-06-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The new build, done clean and incorporating Matthias' suggested change, 
completed successfully. Thanks again for the suggestions.


On 6/2/2017 11:20 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions.

I am doing a clean build, but it takes a while on Windows 8.1. I have
441 GB of free space on the disk, so I don't think that is the problem.

On 6/2/2017 11:02 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 02.06.2017 um 18:51 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I checked out 4.1.4, and tried to build it, Windows 8.1. The build
fails right at the end. I'm attaching my configure parameters. Any
tips for how to fix this?


no real "hacker" solutions but some general questions:

- It's failing quit at the end (building the install files), so maybe
  the build options are no longer a problem.
- The same problem again after starting a complete new build?
- Also after you have cleaned-up everything?
- Enough disk space?

HTH

Marcus

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Re: Failing to build 4.1.4

2017-06-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Thanks for the suggestions.

I am doing a clean build, but it takes a while on Windows 8.1. I have 
441 GB of free space on the disk, so I don't think that is the problem.


On 6/2/2017 11:02 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 02.06.2017 um 18:51 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I checked out 4.1.4, and tried to build it, Windows 8.1. The build
fails right at the end. I'm attaching my configure parameters. Any
tips for how to fix this?


no real "hacker" solutions but some general questions:

- It's failing quit at the end (building the install files), so maybe
  the build options are no longer a problem.
- The same problem again after starting a complete new build?
- Also after you have cleaned-up everything?
- Enough disk space?

HTH

Marcus

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Re: Failing to build 4.1.4

2017-06-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Thanks. I'll make that change and try again. Fixing any anomaly may help.

On 6/2/2017 10:22 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hi Patricia,

Although I can not help with this specific error I wonder that you can
build with:

--with-epm-url="http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz;

That source is not existent any more and I had to change to:

--with-epm-url=https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz

(See:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
)

Regards, Matthias


Am 02.06.2017 um 18:51 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I checked out 4.1.4, and tried to build it, Windows 8.1. The build
fails right at the end. I'm attaching my configure parameters. Any
tips for how to fix this?

... unopkg.exe sync --verbose -env:UNO_JAVA_JFW_ENV_JREHOME=true 2>&1
| ...
... creating archive file ...
... cleaning the output tree ...
... removing directory /tmp/ooopackaging/i_553641496418124 ...
Error: ERROR: Could not move directory from /tmp/80p1ud64RK to
/tmp/80p1ud64RK_temp.55364

**
ERROR: ERROR: Could not move directory from /tmp/80p1ud64RK to
/tmp/80p1ud64RK_temp.55364
in function: rename_directory
**
in function: rename_directorystopping log at Fri Jun  2 08:45:53 2017
dmake:  Error code 255, while making 'openoffice_en-US.archive'

1 module(s):
instsetoo_native
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/AOO414/main/instsetoo_native/util

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build
by running:

build --all:instsetoo_native


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Failing to build 4.1.4

2017-06-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I checked out 4.1.4, and tried to build it, Windows 8.1. The build fails 
right at the end. I'm attaching my configure parameters. Any tips for 
how to fix this?


... unopkg.exe sync --verbose -env:UNO_JAVA_JFW_ENV_JREHOME=true 2>&1 | ...
... creating archive file ...
... cleaning the output tree ...
... removing directory /tmp/ooopackaging/i_553641496418124 ...
Error: ERROR: Could not move directory from /tmp/80p1ud64RK to 
/tmp/80p1ud64RK_temp.55364


**
ERROR: ERROR: Could not move directory from /tmp/80p1ud64RK to 
/tmp/80p1ud64RK_temp.55364

in function: rename_directory
**
in function: rename_directorystopping log at Fri Jun  2 08:45:53 2017
dmake:  Error code 255, while making 'openoffice_en-US.archive'

1 module(s):
instsetoo_native
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/AOO414/main/instsetoo_native/util


When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build 
by running:


build --all:instsetoo_native
SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--disable-directx \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant" \

--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
 \
--with-epm-url="http://www.msweet.org/files/project2/epm-3.7-source.tar.gz; 
\
--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--without-junit \
--with-package-format="archive installed" \
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_79"


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Re: Security (was bugzilla)

2017-05-22 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Since this is getting into specifics of security issues, I think it 
should be moved to the security list.


On 5/22/2017 1:22 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Well, I see only 2 attack path for us.
Ssh interface and the macro/scripting interface.

SSH or web we need to update libs, so wee need a flexible way to reference both.

Scripting I don't know, not my area of expertise. Anyone with insights?

Please note I start splitting because we get more and more OT.

Am 21. Mai 2017 17:10:16 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher :



Sent from my iPhone


On May 21, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Jörg Schmidt 

wrote:




From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]



Here are some of mine. I am sure others differ.

(1) investigate and fix security holes.


+1


(2) frequent releases.


+-0 or -1

In practice, a time interval of 12-15 months would be sufficient.


More frequent releases are needed for two reasons.

- security fixes
- making sure we have several people who can be release manager.

Feature releases can be on an interval you describe.



Note: the release cycle of LO is much too short, even if this is

always presented as an advantage.

I could write "imho", but the truth is that the one is a tangible

practice problem for professional office users. Because I offer
commercial support for OO and LO, I know what I'm talking about.



(3) near one to one conversion to and from Microsoft Office.


+-0

Do you know the story of the hare and the hedgehog?

http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm187.html



Yes, the users want that, but would not it be right and honest to

tell the users:

'if you want MS Office, then use MS Office and not OO'


Users want to convert to AOO but cannot easily. Users want to share
with friends on MSFT. Having a great divide is not tenable. Perhaps
this is an extension.




(4) deconflicted feature requests.


I do not know what you mean specifically with "deconflicted".


Raphael mentioned that feature requests bite each other. In
prioritizing these we should pick which way.




What do people think?


I think _in the present situation_ it is better to work more and to

discuss less.

Agreed, but I'd still like to know what others think.



I am unfortunately not a programmer of OO, but I support the project

with user support, as a member of the project www.prooo-box.org and as
a moderator in the forum http://openoffice.org.

I have regularly supported the project through translations of the

release notes into the German language.

Thank you.

Regards,
Dave




greetings,
Jörg


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Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 5/20/2017 1:43 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi Patricia

Am .05.2017, 22:04 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org>:

...

A retired Sun or StarOffice person who understands how the code is
put together could save me a lot of time. My current low level
objective is to find where to put a break point to intercept a
double click on OLE substitute text. A few minutes of e-mail
response from someone who knows, or knows how to find out, might
save me hours or days. The same would apply to the professional
developers you want.

I don't think, that this people are already retired, they are not
old enough. And people from the pre SUN time bring not a load of
benefit. Most of the code has changed since 1998. AFAIK one of the
oldest part is the build in file picker (not the native one) He goes
back to 199x.


Hmmm. I distinctly remember Sun picking up StarOffice, and I was working
for Sun as a large server performance architect at the time. I retired
in 2002. I was able to retire early because of Sun stock options I sold
in 2000, something that happened to a lot of senior developers at Sun.
Even without that, I would be retired by now, age 68.


But what I want to say, we should not waste the time and try to
restore the old project. OpenOffice is old, in the IT world very old.
Things change from time to time. I don't say to scrap the old model
immediately. Maybe we should invite people from the whole ASF to
discuss how a modern Office Suite looks like. I believe we are to
strong focused on the old concept. Sometimes this blocks new ideas
and scares also companies with new ideas away.


That sounds sufficiently different that it should be run as a separate
project.

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Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 5/20/2017 9:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi all

Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb esh1907 :


Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during
Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project?


I think this is the wrong way to go. We can't get the good old time
back. What we need is fresh business blood. Not companies who use
OpenOffice, Companies who help develop the project. Without this we will
face a slow dead. A project in this size need professional developers.

But companies don't com just to put money in, they want something back
(normally). SUN and IBM was a big exception. The point is, we are not
attractive for Companies at the moment. There is no room to make money.
We should start getting attractive for companies.


We may need both. If a company got interested in AOO today, they would 
be presented with the same problem as I'm fighting: a large, complicated 
body of code that seems to have been modified by separate departments - 
just because I find out how something works in writer, it does not mean 
I know how it works in calc.


A retired Sun or StarOffice person who understands how the code is put 
together could save me a lot of time. My current low level objective is 
to find where to put a break point to intercept a double click on OLE 
substitute text. A few minutes of e-mail response from someone who 
knows, or knows how to find out, might save me hours or days. The same 
would apply to the professional developers you want.


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Re: Bugzilla

2017-05-20 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 5/20/2017 7:32 AM, esh1907 wrote:

Maybe we should try to locate and convince people who used to work during
Star and Sun Microsystems to rejoin the project?


If you can see a way to make this happen, it would be very helpful. Even 
having someone familiar with the source code available as a consultant 
would help.


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Re: OpenOffice

2017-05-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The OpenOffice name is probably the best asset we have for attracting 
volunteers.


On 5/15/2017 11:26 AM, esh1907 wrote:

But for releases and interesting stuff, people are needed ("chicken or the
egg")...

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Peter Kovacs 
wrote:


Nah. That will not attract people.
Releases and interesting stuff going on will.

Names are sound and smoke...
Old truth in IT.
Big Data Buzzword has been invented in 1990...

All the Best
Peter


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Re: Apache OpenOffice NG

2017-05-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 5/2/2017 8:42 AM, Jorg Schmidt wrote:



From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com]



The issue that I see is that our end-user community is not the same
as, for example, subversion... I would hazard that the vast majority
of AOO users have no idea what "open source" means and the distinction
between being a source-only project and
"source-only-but-we-also-provide-
community-builds" would be lost on them...


+1

Jorg


Currently, if someone finds advertising or malware in their AOO 
installation we can tell them to download AOO only through our download 
link. What would we do in that situation if we did not provide 
downloadable binaries?


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Re: [GitHub] Missing tag for 4.1.3 release

2017-04-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan

If it needs to be done early, put it early in the document.

In general, what needs doing should drive the form of the "How to Cook a 
Release" document. If the current form does not accommodate a necessary 
step, change it. The objective is to have a complete recipe.


We currently have two sections, "Initiating a Release" and "Planning" 
that discuss things that happen before the first build. My feeling is 
that this issue belongs in "Initiating a Release", probably as a Release 
Manager responsibility, but I would have no objection to a new section 
on pre-build preparations if that would fit better.


On 4/5/2017 3:01 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 05.04.2017 um 15:16 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I have seen on GitHub:

https://github.com/apache/openoffice/releases

that 4.1.3 (zip/tar.gz) is missing. This seems to be a manual process on
SVN [1], so this step should be added to our cWiki:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release



at the moment I don't see where this piece could fit. The release tag
has to be done long, long before a release build has to be started.

In general, there is no description what and how something in AOO code
has to be done in SVN as it is too special.

Or do you have an idea?


@Andrea: I see you did it for 4.1.1 and 4.1.2. Can this "tag" still be
done for 4.1.3?

[1] https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/tags/?pathrev=1754537


Yes, please.

Marcus


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Taking a month off

2017-02-28 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have a lot of non-Apache activities over the next month, so I'm taking 
a break from OpenOffice. I've made some progress towards learning my way 
around the code and data structures, but it is taking time.


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Re: Documentation needs

2017-02-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 2/14/2017 10:40 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

Hello,


From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org]



I'm sure our documentation needs work, and there is someone with
writing, editing, and copyediting skills hoping to help. The
doc@ list
seems to be dead, except for one message posted this year.

What would be the best way to get started on improving our website or
documentation?


I think the easiest way is to use the wiki and coordinate the work. Start here:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation

Previously, much was coordinated by odf-autors:
http://www.odfauthors.org/

At the moment, I do not know how to create an account in the Wiki, _maybe 
someone else can help_?

Editing the web pages is done with cms, you have to have an account, which you 
get when you are committer:


The German language documentation is _actively_ maintained by the team of the 
ProOO-Box, see:
http://prooo-box.org/live/seiten/dokumentation.html
(see also the site: https://www.openoffice.org/de/doc/index.html but the 
documents there are not up-to-date)


Maybe one place to start on the English documentation would be to pick 
up German changes, machine translate, and then polish the result, if the 
licensing permits?



Perhaps one can say more precisely, documentation is not my particular 
workspace.


I think the real problem is that currently documentation is not in 
anybody's workspace. We have at least one volunteer who is interested, 
but needs help getting started.




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Documentation needs

2017-02-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I'm sure our documentation needs work, and there is someone with 
writing, editing, and copyediting skills hoping to help. The doc@ list 
seems to be dead, except for one message posted this year.


What would be the best way to get started on improving our website or 
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Re: Increase the number of tables in Calc

2017-02-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
In looking at AOO source code, I'm finding lots of uses of fixed size 
arrays. As far as I can tell, there is little use of the STL data 
structures. I assume this reflects conditions when StarOffice was designed.



On 2/5/2017 7:42 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:



From: Damjan Jovanovic [mailto:dam...@apache.org]



Hopefully, to increase number of sheets, it's just this one-line patch
below that I am busy compiling now. Will let you know if it
works soon.


That would be good if it worked.


But please let us consider:
Are 1024 a reasonable value?
What would be possible at most _in the short_ term?

We have to keep in mind that MS Excel and LO Calc do not have a limit for 
tables anymore and that must be our goal in the long term. (Of course gladly 
synonymous in the short term, but I think this will not be possible)


Greetings,
Jörg


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Re: AOO debugging revamp

2017-01-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I did some more testing, and it seems to be a Visual Studio weirdness. 
It was showing my breakpoint as "no symbols loaded". However, when I ran 
a test case that I know goes through that breakpoint, it turned red and 
worked.


On 1/30/2017 8:28 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

That's unusual. It should either fix it for all gbuild modules, or none of
them. In the build log for main/sw, is "-DEBUG" passed to the linker?
Please send it through if unsure.

I haven't had a chance to test it myself as debugging is currently broken
with precompiled headers, and my Windows VM doesn't have disk space for a
debug build anyway...

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:


Applying the patch fixed the vcl case, but not the one I really care
about, main/sw


On 1/29/2017 6:51 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:




On 1/29/2017 5:59 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:


I am trying a Windows rebuild now. In the meanwhile, what debugger are
you using? Can you debug any other modules, eg. vcl which uses gbuild,
or sal which uses dmake?



I'm using Visual Studio Community 2013.

sal: Yes, at least the breakpoint stays red in the breakpoints display.
vcl: No, "No symbols have been loaded for this document".




It's possible that Windows also needs gb_LinkTarget_LDFLAGS += -DEBUG to
enable debugging, as per the "ifeq ($(gb_DEBUGLEVEL),2)" part of
solenv/gbuild/platform/windows.mk <http://windows.mk>. If so, please try
the attached patch which should do that.



I'll try it.






On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org
<mailto:p...@acm.org>> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 9:35 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi

For a while I've noticed how gbuild modules don't have debug
symbols unless
built with the maximum debug level ("./configure --enable-debug"
globally
or "build debug=true" per module) which also produces oceans
of log
messages we usually don't want.

In r1780246, I've finally changed debugging in gbuild to match
how dmake
works: --enable-symbols and --enable-crashdump now also add
debug symbols
to gbuild modules like they do to dmake modules, and the
--enable-symbols=small option is also implemented for GCC and
Clang (sorry
Windows developers, MSVC doesn't seem to have it). The only
extra benefit
of --enable-debug on top of this now, is that it disables
compiler
optimizations - should we disable them for --enable-symbols too?

In r1780248 I've also made Java's .class files get full
debugging info
whenever C++ does.

This should vastly improve running AOO under a debugger, as we
get nice
line numbers and variable names for absolutely everything :-).


I compiled with the attached configure parameters, and breakpoints
are not working in main/sw/source/ui/app/docsh.cx
<http://docsh.cx>x, "No symbols have been loaded for this document".
What should I change?



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Re: AOO debugging revamp

2017-01-30 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Applying the patch fixed the vcl case, but not the one I really care 
about, main/sw


On 1/29/2017 6:51 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:



On 1/29/2017 5:59 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

I am trying a Windows rebuild now. In the meanwhile, what debugger are
you using? Can you debug any other modules, eg. vcl which uses gbuild,
or sal which uses dmake?


I'm using Visual Studio Community 2013.

sal: Yes, at least the breakpoint stays red in the breakpoints display.
vcl: No, "No symbols have been loaded for this document".




It's possible that Windows also needs gb_LinkTarget_LDFLAGS += -DEBUG to
enable debugging, as per the "ifeq ($(gb_DEBUGLEVEL),2)" part of
solenv/gbuild/platform/windows.mk <http://windows.mk>. If so, please try
the attached patch which should do that.


I'll try it.






On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org
<mailto:p...@acm.org>> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 9:35 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi

For a while I've noticed how gbuild modules don't have debug
symbols unless
built with the maximum debug level ("./configure --enable-debug"
globally
or "build debug=true" per module) which also produces oceans
of log
messages we usually don't want.

In r1780246, I've finally changed debugging in gbuild to match
how dmake
works: --enable-symbols and --enable-crashdump now also add
debug symbols
to gbuild modules like they do to dmake modules, and the
--enable-symbols=small option is also implemented for GCC and
Clang (sorry
Windows developers, MSVC doesn't seem to have it). The only
extra benefit
of --enable-debug on top of this now, is that it disables
compiler
optimizations - should we disable them for --enable-symbols too?

In r1780248 I've also made Java's .class files get full
debugging info
whenever C++ does.

This should vastly improve running AOO under a debugger, as we
get nice
line numbers and variable names for absolutely everything :-).


I compiled with the attached configure parameters, and breakpoints
are not working in main/sw/source/ui/app/docsh.cx
<http://docsh.cx>x, "No symbols have been loaded for this document".
What should I change?


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Re: AOO debugging revamp

2017-01-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 1/29/2017 5:59 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

I am trying a Windows rebuild now. In the meanwhile, what debugger are
you using? Can you debug any other modules, eg. vcl which uses gbuild,
or sal which uses dmake?


I'm using Visual Studio Community 2013.

sal: Yes, at least the breakpoint stays red in the breakpoints display.
vcl: No, "No symbols have been loaded for this document".




It's possible that Windows also needs gb_LinkTarget_LDFLAGS += -DEBUG to
enable debugging, as per the "ifeq ($(gb_DEBUGLEVEL),2)" part of
solenv/gbuild/platform/windows.mk <http://windows.mk>. If so, please try
the attached patch which should do that.


I'll try it.






On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org
<mailto:p...@acm.org>> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 9:35 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi

For a while I've noticed how gbuild modules don't have debug
symbols unless
built with the maximum debug level ("./configure --enable-debug"
globally
or "build debug=true" per module) which also produces oceans of log
messages we usually don't want.

In r1780246, I've finally changed debugging in gbuild to match
how dmake
works: --enable-symbols and --enable-crashdump now also add
debug symbols
to gbuild modules like they do to dmake modules, and the
--enable-symbols=small option is also implemented for GCC and
Clang (sorry
Windows developers, MSVC doesn't seem to have it). The only
extra benefit
of --enable-debug on top of this now, is that it disables compiler
optimizations - should we disable them for --enable-symbols too?

In r1780248 I've also made Java's .class files get full
debugging info
whenever C++ does.

This should vastly improve running AOO under a debugger, as we
get nice
line numbers and variable names for absolutely everything :-).


I compiled with the attached configure parameters, and breakpoints
are not working in main/sw/source/ui/app/docsh.cx
<http://docsh.cx>x, "No symbols have been loaded for this document".
What should I change?


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Re: AOO debugging revamp

2017-01-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 1/25/2017 9:35 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi

For a while I've noticed how gbuild modules don't have debug symbols unless
built with the maximum debug level ("./configure --enable-debug" globally
or "build debug=true" per module) which also produces oceans of log
messages we usually don't want.

In r1780246, I've finally changed debugging in gbuild to match how dmake
works: --enable-symbols and --enable-crashdump now also add debug symbols
to gbuild modules like they do to dmake modules, and the
--enable-symbols=small option is also implemented for GCC and Clang (sorry
Windows developers, MSVC doesn't seem to have it). The only extra benefit
of --enable-debug on top of this now, is that it disables compiler
optimizations - should we disable them for --enable-symbols too?

In r1780248 I've also made Java's .class files get full debugging info
whenever C++ does.

This should vastly improve running AOO under a debugger, as we get nice
line numbers and variable names for absolutely everything :-).


I compiled with the attached configure parameters, and breakpoints are 
not working in main/sw/source/ui/app/docsh.cxx, "No symbols have been 
loaded for this document". What should I change?
SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure \
 --enable-dbgutil \
 --enable-symbols \
 --disable-strip-solver \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--disable-directx \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant" \

--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
 \

--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz;
 \
--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--without-junit \
--with-package-format="archive installed" \
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_79"


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Re: Difficulty with dmake

2017-01-25 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Thanks. That worked.

The step-by-step puts winenv.set.sh after ./bootstrap, and that used to 
work. Do you expect it to work again, or do we need to edit the 
instructions?


On 1/25/2017 8:25 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Try "source winenv.set.sh" between ./configure and ./bootstrap.

Damjan

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 2:20 AM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:


I am trying to set up a new debug environment, incorporating the recent
changes to how debug works. Unfortunately, my configure-and-bootstrap
cannot find dmake. It looks for it in a different URL from the one
specified as DMAKE_URL from configure.

run_configure.sh contains my configure parameters. wk_log.txt is the
output from an attempt to configure and bootstrap.


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Difficulty with dmake

2017-01-25 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am trying to set up a new debug environment, incorporating the recent 
changes to how debug works. Unfortunately, my configure-and-bootstrap 
cannot find dmake. It looks for it in a different URL from the one 
specified as DMAKE_URL from configure.


run_configure.sh contains my configure parameters. wk_log.txt is the 
output from an attempt to configure and bootstrap.
SDK_PATH="/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Microsoft SDKs/Windows/v7.0"
./configure \
 --enable-dbgutil \
 --enable-symbols \
 --disable-strip-solver \
--with-frame-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-psdk-home="$SDK_PATH" \
--with-midl-path="$SDK_PATH/bin" \
--disable-directx \
--with-ant-home="/cygdrive/c/ant" \

--with-dmake-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
 \

--with-epm-url="https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz;
 \
--disable-pch \
--disable-atl \
--disable-activex \
--without-junit \
--with-package-format="archive installed" \
--with-jdk-home="/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Java/jdk1.7.0_79"

Patricia@Jan2014Desktop /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/new_debug/main
$ source run_configure.sh
checking whether configure is up-to-date... yes

*  *
*   Apache OpenOffice build configuration. *
*  *
*   The configure process checks your platform to see whether  *
*   you can build Apache OpenOffice on it. *
*   This process checks all pre-requisites and generates a file*
*   containing the necessary environment variables.*
*   Source this file after configure has ended successfully.   *
*  *
*   Warnings that are generated during the configure process   *
*   must be taken into account since it can be a reason for*
*   an unsuccessful build of Apache OpenOffice.*
*  *



*  *
*   Checking the platform pre-requisites.  *
*  *


checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... C:/cygwin32/bin/grep.exe
checking for egrep... C:/cygwin32/bin/grep.exe -E
checking for gawk... gawk
checking for gawk... /usr/bin/gawk
checking for sed... /usr/bin/sed
checking for solenv environment... default
checking for custom pack.lst... no
checking build system type... i686-pc-cygwin
checking host system type... i686-pc-cygwin
checking target system type... i686-pc-cygwin
cygwin
checking Cygwin version... 2.4.1(0.293/5/3)
head: cannot open '/etc/*-release' for reading: No such file or directory
CYGWIN_NT-6.3-WOW Jan2014Desktop 2.4.1(0.293/5/3) 2016-01-24 11:24 i686 Cygwin
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking whether to enable crashdump feature... no
checking whether to use the standard non-optimizing compiler... no
checking whether to build/use the Windows 64bit shell extensions... no
checking whether to turn warnings to errors... no
checking whether to do a debug build... no
checking whether to build with additional debug utilities... yes
checking whether to include symbols into final build... yes
checking whether to strip the solver or not no
checking whether to enable category B components... no: disabled modules nss, 
hunspell, hyphen, saxon, rhino, graphite, coinmp
checking whether to enable the Online Update support... yes
checking whether to enable unit tests... yes
checking whether to enable native CUPS support... no
checking whether to enable fontconfig support... no
checking whether to use DirectX... no
checking whether to use ActiveX... no
checking whether to use ATL... no
checking whether to use RPATH in shared libraries... yes
checking whether to use dicts from external paths... no
checking Windows build environment sanity... ok
checking for cygwin gcc/g++... found
checking for bash... /usr/bin/bash
checking gcc home... /usr
checking whether to enable pch feature... no
checking for GNU make... make
checking the GNU make version... make 4.1
3+:
checking for dmake... configure: no system or user-provided dmake found
dmake will be downloaded and compiled in bootstrap
checking for GNU or compatible BSD tar... tar
checking for perl... C:/cygwin32/bin/perl
checking the Perl version... checked (perl 5)
checking for required Perl modules... all modules found
checking for 

Re: buildbot failure in on openoffice-linux32-nightly

2017-01-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan

I am being held up by a similar failure on Windows 8.1:

checking if C:/ant/bin/ant works... Ant works
checking Ant lib directory... Ant lib directory found.
checking whether ant is >= 1.6.0... yes, 1.9.6
./configure: line 22505: syntax error near unexpected token `else'
./configure: line 22505: `else'


On 1/18/2017 6:23 PM, build...@apache.org wrote:

The Buildbot has detected a new failure on builder openoffice-linux32-nightly 
while building . Full details are available at:
https://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly/builds/481

Buildbot URL: https://ci.apache.org/

Buildslave for this Build: bb_slave5_ubuntu

Build Reason: The Nightly scheduler named 'openoffice-linux32-nightly' 
triggered this build
Build Source Stamp: [branch openoffice/trunk] HEAD
Blamelist:

BUILD FAILED: failed configure bootstrap

Sincerely,
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Re: Generating symbols for setup_native

2017-01-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 1/16/2017 1:32 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Try --enable-dbgutil or as a last resort --enable-debug.


I already have --enable-dbgutil. I'll try --enable-debug overnight.



"DEBUG=true build" in the module directory could also work.


I'll try this first, because I only have to rebuild the module I need 
right now.


Thanks for the suggestions.




On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 10:32 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:


I built with --enable-symbols in the configure parameters.

For several modules, I can get symbols generated using:

 make clean; make debug=3Dtrue

and copying the updated .dll files.

I just tried this for main/setup_native and there does not seem to be a
suitable makefile.

Is there any way to get symbols for that module?

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Generating symbols for setup_native

2017-01-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan

I built with --enable-symbols in the configure parameters.

For several modules, I can get symbols generated using:

 make clean; make debug=3Dtrue

and copying the updated .dll files.

I just tried this for main/setup_native and there does not seem to be a 
suitable makefile.


Is there any way to get symbols for that module?

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Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
We also need to split tasks out into those that primarily need 
OpenOffice user skills, and those that require digging deeply into the 
implementation code.


In the long term, I think I may be on the leading edge of a major future 
source of open software developers - retirees.




On 1/14/2017 12:24 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

We see in Star citizen how mighty crowd can be.

Maybe a platform would be great where people can pledge money for something
they need.
If the needed budget is reached, payed developers implement it.
Or we could do it as a bonus system. You pledge money on a bug/enhancement,
if the bug gets included in the release the developers get a payout.

This is just an idea. I am not sure if we can do business within the ASF or
if we have to found a 3rd party entity for this.
If we have to go 3rd party I prefer a cooperative society as a legal form.
https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/social-economy/cooperatives/european-cooperative-society_de

All the best
Peter

Raphael Bircher  schrieb am Sa., 14. Jan. 2017,
06:32:


Hi at all

If we compare AOO to day with the good old OpenOffice.org Project in 2006,
we have now a tiny community. Well, we will be able to maintain the
project, make some bugfix and maybe some features too. But we will never
track down the work who is in our issue tracker.

But surprisingly we have still a very height download number. If you read
comments on social media you see, that many are really happy with the
programm. The problem is, tat this user simply are looked out from the
product development. The Enduser can only watch and pray.

While most bigger Apache Projects has a well working business model
behind, OpenOffice has nothing. In fact we never cared about it. I believe
it's rely time to change this. There are maybe at the moment no big
investors, but maybe more individuals who love the idea.

I know, we have to stick within the Apache rules, but this should be
possible. So let's collect ideas here.

Regards, Raphael

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Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-12 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Thanks for the correction.

On 1/12/2017 7:38 AM, Nagy Ákos wrote:

https://www.openoffice.org/licenses/lgpl_license.html
Based on this page, OpenOffice change the license from LGPLv3 to Apache
2.0 only when Oracle donate the code to Apache Foundation in june 2011,
but LibreOffice was forked from OOo in september 2010.

An article about this:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/what-the-heck-is-happening-with-openoffice-update/

2017. 01. 12. 15:25 keltezéssel, Tsutomu Uchino írta:

See this mail: http://legal-discuss.markmail.org/thread/mleqsm636zf5fqia

2017-01-12 6:18 GMT+09:00 Dave <nore...@tasit.net>:


On 11.01.2017 09:44, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

On 1/10/2017 11:29 PM, Nagy �kos wrote:

Hi,

it is impossible, because the LO license is LGPL+MPL, that can't be
merged in OpenOffice.

That choice of license was very unfortunate, and a regrettable barrier
to cooperation between the projects. When LO split off they could have
kept the Apache license and the potential for future cooperation.

The first release of OOo v3 was under LGPLv3 per Louis Suarez-Potts:
https://lwn.net/Articles/272202/

In September 2010 LO forked from OOo and released LO 3.3 in January 2011
under the same license.

Around 6 months later in June 2011 Oracle donated the LGPLv3 code to the
ASF and AOO 3.4 was released in May 2012 under ALv2.

In spite of a seemingly contradictory statement on the license page of
the LO website, the above dates clearly show that LO code was forked
from the original OOo code, not from the AOO code.

Please let's not try to rewrite history.

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Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 1/10/2017 11:29 PM, Nagy Ákos wrote:

Hi,

it is impossible, because the LO license is LGPL+MPL, that can't be
merged in OpenOffice.


That choice of license was very unfortunate, and a regrettable barrier 
to cooperation between the projects. When LO split off they could have 
kept the Apache license and the potential for future cooperation.


For most of my career, the only way I had of earning a living was 
writing software. The FSF's basic philosophy is that programmers should 
have no right to own and control the products of their labor. That does 
not seem very free to me. For that reason, I'll never donate my labor to 
anything that uses their licenses.


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Re: Error on enum statement. Can sombody take a little time and explain the enum and the error?

2017-01-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
If this is the 4.1.3 source, it has been compiled many times. I would 
look for a configuration problem affecting the the value of bits_per_pixel.



On 01/02/2017 06:07 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:



-Original Message-
From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:legi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 17:07
To: dev 
Subject: Error on enum statement. Can sombody take a little time and
explain the enum and the error?

Hello all,


I tried to compile the source again. since I had again missing
definition on trunc I wanted to know if I can build at least the 4.1.3
release. I checked out the branch and started all over.

And I ran into following Issue:

../inc/basebmp/packedpixeliterator.hxx:80:10: error: enumerator value
for 'bit_mask' is not an integer constant

The corresponding code is:

enum {
  /** The number of pixel within a single value_type value
   */
num_intraword_positions=sizeof(value_type)*8/bits_per_pixel,
  /** Bit mask for one pixel (least significant bits)
   */
  bit_mask=~(~0 << bits_per_pixel)

[orcmid]


Try a couple of things:

  1. Put spaces in the "=~" to be something like " = ~" in the definition of 
bit_mask.

  2. If that makes no difference, try

   bit_mask = ~ ((value_type)(~0 << bits_per_pixel))

 and if that doesn't work, see if

   bit_mask = ~ ((int)(~0 << bits_per_pixel))

 or even

   bit_mask = (int) (~(~0 << bits_per_pixel))

 get the job done.

It seems strange for an enum being used this way.  It is a clumsy way to define 
two numeric constants that are not involved in an enumeration at all.


  };


An explanation would be great. I found [1] on the net, but I am realy
unsure if this is the same. And I do not understand the code in
packedpixeliterator at all.

All the best and thanks for your time.

Peter


[1]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18090541/how-to-set-the-value-of-an-
enumeration-constant-outside-the-range-of-int#18090940




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Fwd: access grant

2016-12-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am confused about this. I believe Zsolt is now a member of our 
"committers" group. Is there another step I need to do to give svn 
access? If so,  what is it?



 Forwarded Message 
Subject: access grant
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 18:19:33 +0100
From: Zsolt Kúti 
Reply-To: priv...@river.apache.org
To: priv...@river.apache.org

Good day,

After getting my account I need access grant to the repo according to the
notification mail:

"Please note that until the Project Management Committee responsible
for the project to which you were given group membership actually grants
you access to the relevant source code modules, you won't be able to
commit anything"


A question to svn management:
I checked out "site" dir using http url as offered for non-committers.
Now I will have to use https for commits. Should I use svn 'relocate' to be
able to do so?

Thanks
Zsolt


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Re: [discussion] Roadmap for Open Office

2016-12-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 12/5/2016 12:35 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
...

# Concerning 12h period. (did not find who brought this up :) )
What I mean is that it would be great if we could devide all activities
in good estimate able chunks. Agile methology claims everything that an
experienced developer estimates beyond 24h h (3 working days) of effort
is inaccurate and there is a high propability that something has been
forgotten.

...

There are important, even essential, tasks that cannot be handled in
neat, tidy, estimatable chunks.

I am trying to simultaneously learn AOO internals and analyze a bug.
Debug on a very large body of unfamiliar, long-maintained code is a
messy process. I have done it intermittently for decades, and still
don't know a way to make it clean and tidy. I usually know what to do
for the current step, but the next step will depend on its results.

It is less a matter of "something has been forgotten" than of "most of
the necessary knowledge is not yet known".

It would be great if we could divide **some** activities in good
estimatable chunks. I just don't think aiming for "all" makes sense. On
the other hand, the tasks that can be handled in tidy pieces are exactly
the ones relatively inexperienced contributors should be starting on.

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Re: Is there still someone who build for Solaris/Openindiana

2016-12-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 12/6/2016 1:55 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi all

I'm going to the configure script and I recognize that there are still
parts for solaris. As far as I know, the last version who build with
solaris was the AOO 3.4.x. My question is, if we should ride off the
Solaris stuff or we should keep it. Well it won't hurt to keep it, but
it makes also no sense to keep a platform no one build.


I did make some moves towards Solaris building, but I feel at this time 
that learning AOO internals and working on debug is a better use of my 
AOO time.


I tend to assume that anything that is not being actively maintained and 
tested does not work. We need to simplify the build process. I suggest 
getting rid of the Solaris stuff, as a separate commit with "Solaris" in 
the log message. That way, if anyone decides to pick it up they will be 
able to find the last state easily.



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Re: [discussion] Roadmap for Open Office

2016-12-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I think there is something that comes before this. Developers need to be 
able to build AOO. I think we still need more work on the step-by-step 
instructions, making sure they are complete and work for all systems.


On 12/3/2016 4:21 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hello all,

I thought a little. There were some people claiming that they want to
help. But then wrote nothing more. I think if you come here, with the
will to fight alone through all the mess, you will give up fast because
you have no Idea what your next step is. I personally do not have the
Problem, since I have a plan what I want to do. However I think this is
not true for a lot of people.
I would like to get us a bit organized. Get people work to do, while
giving everyone the freedom the need / claim in order to advance.

So I suggest to keep Bugzilla as Bugtracker, and use Jira as a Todo
backlog List type. I love Agile methology. Never came to use it thought,
because companies can not deal well if there is no timeframe. But I
think for us its perfect.

This is something that might be small sounding, but there are lots of
tasks involved. We collect all the necessary tasks List them up, and
offer them on the TODO Bazar (The Backlog).
Volunteers can take the task from there, and solve it. It gets
introduced into our trunc. If task is fullfilled, we generate a release
out of it.

I do not have an example ready. But maybe just roughly the signing issue:
# EPIC: Signing in MAC
## Extend build tool with sign task
## build Online certificate vault plus client
## Test system

Some thing like this. Maybe a bit more detailed, best Idea would be that
no task takes more then estimated 12h to accomplish.
If we manage to chop tasks into small pieces like this It is easy to wor
through the tasks.

What do you think? Is this nuts? What are your thoughts?
I think if we have such a roadmap, we can go also on public and have
something to talk about. I think it would make our Project a lot more
lovely.

All the best
Peter

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Re: Hash values of downloaded files

2016-11-26 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 11/26/2016 4:22 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
...

As I explained, the user quite properly derived the hash value of the
installation file. He then - understandably but wrongly - performed the
same process to derive the hash value *of* the hash file - instead of
inspecting the value provided in that file. Not surprisingly, these
values never matched, whatever version he tried or mirror source he used.

You and I will think that this misunderstanding is unlikely, but that is
because we already understand how hashes are used to confirm the
integrity of files in this way. As I mentioned, the web site - at
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html - uses expressions
such as "If both hash values do not match" and "When both hash values
match", and the use of the word "match" is asking the users to seek
similarity. The values to be compared are not "hash values" in the same
way. It is surely not surprising that this user therefore believed hat
he was being asked to do similar things with both files? In any case,
whatever you and I think, that is what he did. I'm suggesting that we
should believe the evidence.


Can you suggest an alternative wording that would be clearer?


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Re: svn commit: r1770427 - /openoffice/trunk/main/sfx2/source/appl/linkmgr2.cxx

2016-11-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Thanks.

On 11/18/2016 11:25 AM, mar...@apache.org wrote:

Author: marcus
Date: Fri Nov 18 19:25:19 2016
New Revision: 1770427

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1770427=rev
Log:
Translated comments from German to English

Modified:
openoffice/trunk/main/sfx2/source/appl/linkmgr2.cxx

Modified: openoffice/trunk/main/sfx2/source/appl/linkmgr2.cxx
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/sfx2/source/appl/linkmgr2.cxx?rev=1770427=1770426=1770427=diff
==
--- openoffice/trunk/main/sfx2/source/appl/linkmgr2.cxx (original)
+++ openoffice/trunk/main/sfx2/source/appl/linkmgr2.cxx Fri Nov 18 19:25:19 2016
@@ -88,12 +88,12 @@ LinkManager::~LinkManager()
 /
 |*LinkManager::Remove()
 |*
-|*Beschreibung
+|*Description
 */

 void LinkManager::Remove( SvBaseLink *pLink )
 {
-   // keine Links doppelt einfuegen
+   // do not insert links double
int bFound = sal_False;
SvBaseLinkRef** ppRef = (SvBaseLinkRef**)aLinkTbl.GetData();
for( sal_uInt16 n = aLinkTbl.Count(); n; --n, ++ppRef )
@@ -106,7 +106,7 @@ void LinkManager::Remove( SvBaseLink *pL
bFound = sal_True;
}

-   // falls noch leere rum stehen sollten, weg damit
+   // if there are still some empty ones, get rid of them
if( !(*ppRef)->Is() )
{
delete *ppRef;
@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@ void LinkManager::Remove( sal_uInt16 nPo

 sal_Bool LinkManager::Insert( SvBaseLink* pLink )
 {
-   // keine Links doppelt einfuegen
+   // do not insert links double
for( sal_uInt16 n = 0; n < aLinkTbl.Count(); ++n )
{
SvBaseLinkRef* pTmp = aLinkTbl[ n ];
@@ -166,7 +166,7 @@ sal_Bool LinkManager::InsertLink( SvBase
sal_uInt16 
nUpdateMode,
const String* 
pName )
 {
-   // unbedingt zuerst
+   // in any case: do this first
pLink->SetObjType( nObjType );
if( pName )
pLink->SetName( *pName );
@@ -205,7 +205,7 @@ sal_Bool LinkManager::InsertDDELink( SvB
 }


-// erfrage die Strings fuer den Dialog
+// ask for the strings to be used in the dialog
 sal_Bool LinkManager::GetDisplayNames( const SvBaseLink * pLink,

String* pType,

String* pFile,
@@ -278,8 +278,7 @@ void LinkManager::UpdateAllLinks(
SvStringsDtor aApps, aTopics, aItems;
String sApp, sTopic, sItem;

-   // erstmal eine Kopie vom Array machen, damit sich updatende Links in
-   // Links in ... nicht dazwischen funken!!
+   // first create a copy of the array, so that updated links to not 
interfere with ... in between!!
SvPtrarr aTmpArr( 255, 50 );
sal_uInt16 n;
for( n = 0; n < aLinkTbl.Count(); ++n )
@@ -297,7 +296,7 @@ void LinkManager::UpdateAllLinks(
{
SvBaseLink* pLink = (SvBaseLink*)aTmpArr[ n ];

-   // suche erstmal im Array nach dem Eintrag
+   // first search the entry in the array
sal_uInt16 nFndPos = USHRT_MAX;
for( sal_uInt16 i = 0; i < aLinkTbl.Count(); ++i )
if( pLink == *aLinkTbl[ i ] )
@@ -307,9 +306,9 @@ void LinkManager::UpdateAllLinks(
}

if( USHRT_MAX == nFndPos )
-   continue;   // war 
noch nicht vorhanden!
+   continue;   // was 
not already existing!

-   // Graphic-Links noch nicht updaten
+   // do not update graphic links yet
if( !pLink->IsVisible() ||
( !bUpdateGrfLinks && OBJECT_CLIENT_GRF == 
pLink->GetObjType() ))
continue;
@@ -327,9 +326,9 @@ void LinkManager::UpdateAllLinks(
 rEmbeddedObjectContainer.setUserAllowsLinkUpdate(false);
 }

-   return ;// es soll nichts 
geupdatet werden
+   return ;// nothing should be 
updated
 }
-   bAskUpdate = sal_False; // einmal reicht
+   bAskUpdate = sal_False; // one time is OK
}

pLink->Update();
@@ -339,7 +338,7 @@ void LinkManager::UpdateAllLinks(
 /
 |*SvBaseLink::CreateObject()
 |*
-|*Beschreibung
+|*

Re: [Issue 39199] Translate German comments in source codes into English

2016-11-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks, Marcus. I just updated and reread doc.cxx, the file I'm trying 
to understand today. Several of the German comments contained useful 
information that I had not been able to guess from automatic translation.


I think we have a good process now.

On 11/10/2016 6:14 AM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=39199

--- Comment #9 from Marcus  ---
Finished



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Re: Comments in German

2016-11-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan

See https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=39199

There was an existing, closed, issue for doing it on an undirected basis 
for the whole source base, which did not prove practical. I have 
reopened it, and modified in the direction of having people request 
translation for specific file they are reading.


On 11/9/2016 5:17 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

That sounds like a good idea!

At the times, when StarOffice was a German product no one imagined, that
the code would be open-sourced... ;-)


Am 09.11.2016 um 14:01 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

As a compromise between doing individual comments and doing them all,
I suggest some process for nominating files. As part of an effort to
turn myself into an AOO code expert, I am trying to read certain files.

One possibility is to create a Bugzilla entry "Source code contains
comments in German". Those who are able and willing to translate would
put themselves on the mailing list for that bug. People like me who
could add a comment listing files whose comments we would like
translated.

On 11/9/2016 2:59 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

I can also help with this. I had no issues in understanding most of
them. :)
Maybe we should make a list with files that contain German comments?
Then we can work through them and add a English translation.
I thought that they are so many that no one bothered anymore.

All the best.
Peter

Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> schrieb am Di., 8. Nov. 2016, 21:22:


Am 11/08/2016 07:50 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Wouldn't it be better to translate the comments step by step and put
them back in the source code (while preserving the original comment)?


when the translation is good then there is no reason to keep it. I
think
Mechtilde has the knowledge to know what the comments mean.

But it would be also OK to post them here. We translate it and Patricia
can put the English comments back to the code. Whatever works best.

Marcus




Am 08.11.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Mechtilde:

Hello Patricia,

you can send it to me

I will try to translate it

Regards

Mechtilde

Am 08.11.2016 um 19:35 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I trying to read some AOO source code. There are few comments, and
several of the ones I have found are in German, which I don't
know. I
have tried running some through Google Translate, but the results do

not

make much sense.

Is there a translation tool that works better on source code
comments?

If not, would it be OK to post some here and request translations
from
humans who know both German and English?


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Re: Comments in German

2016-11-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
As a compromise between doing individual comments and doing them all, I 
suggest some process for nominating files. As part of an effort to turn 
myself into an AOO code expert, I am trying to read certain files.


One possibility is to create a Bugzilla entry "Source code contains 
comments in German". Those who are able and willing to translate would 
put themselves on the mailing list for that bug. People like me who 
could add a comment listing files whose comments we would like translated.


On 11/9/2016 2:59 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

I can also help with this. I had no issues in understanding most of them. :)
Maybe we should make a list with files that contain German comments?
Then we can work through them and add a English translation.
I thought that they are so many that no one bothered anymore.

All the best.
Peter

Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> schrieb am Di., 8. Nov. 2016, 21:22:


Am 11/08/2016 07:50 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Wouldn't it be better to translate the comments step by step and put
them back in the source code (while preserving the original comment)?


when the translation is good then there is no reason to keep it. I think
Mechtilde has the knowledge to know what the comments mean.

But it would be also OK to post them here. We translate it and Patricia
can put the English comments back to the code. Whatever works best.

Marcus




Am 08.11.2016 um 19:41 schrieb Mechtilde:

Hello Patricia,

you can send it to me

I will try to translate it

Regards

Mechtilde

Am 08.11.2016 um 19:35 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I trying to read some AOO source code. There are few comments, and
several of the ones I have found are in German, which I don't know. I
have tried running some through Google Translate, but the results do

not

make much sense.

Is there a translation tool that works better on source code comments?

If not, would it be OK to post some here and request translations from
humans who know both German and English?


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Comments in German

2016-11-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I trying to read some AOO source code. There are few comments, and 
several of the ones I have found are in German, which I don't know. I 
have tried running some through Google Translate, but the results do not 
make much sense.


Is there a translation tool that works better on source code comments?

If not, would it be OK to post some here and request translations from 
humans who know both German and English?


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Re: [Issue 127176] Java not recognized after update to AOO 4.1.3

2016-10-25 Thread Patricia Shanahan
If this was a known issue before 4.1.3,  please list it under the prior 
bug report, not 127176. 127176 was created after 4.1.3 was released, and 
describes the problem as a regression relative to 4.1.2.


On 10/25/2016 9:23 AM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127176

--- Comment #14 from Keith N. McKenna  ---
As an over-site the entry for this Known Issue was omitted from the 4.1.2 and
4.1.3 Release Notes. I have added it back to the 4.1.3 Release Notes. My
question is is this a regression that should be Release Blocker for 4.1.4?



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Re: recruitment@

2016-10-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/21/2016 5:30 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

Methinks that the creation of recruitment@ was ill-advised...
Most new people are joining dev@ which makes recruitment@ look
like a dismal failure.


With 20/20 hindsight, it does not seem to have been useful. The question 
was whether dev@'s high traffic level and mixture of issues was a 
barrier to joining.


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Re: Failure to build on Windows 10

2016-10-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Thanks. I'll try that next.

On 10/18/2016 7:30 PM, John D'Orazio wrote:

Not sure if this will fix but I myself found that avoiding paths with
spaces can fix a number of errors. So I had the Windows SDK installed to a
custom path where I substituted spaces with underscores. Then in my
configure script I have:

SDK_PATH="D:\Microsoft_SDKs\Windows\v7.0"

As for the JDK home path, I was not able to customize the installation path
but you can get the short form of the path using the cygpath tool. For
example:

cygpath -m -s "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.8.0_73"

will give you "C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7", so in my configure script I
use:

--with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7"

Same with NSIS, I installed it to a custom path with no spaces and in my
configure script I have:

--with-nsis-path="D:/NSIS"

For dmake and epm I am using the sourceforge mirrors as suggested by Andrea
Pescetti:

--with-dmake-url="
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
--with-epm-url="
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz;

Maybe give this a try and see if it helps any?

John R. D'Orazio

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:


I tried to build AOO413 on Windows 10, and got a failure:

/MAP /OPT:NOREF -safeseh -nxcompat -dynamicbase -NODEFAULTLIB -RELEASE
-DEBUG -INCREMENTAL:NO /SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE /BASE:0x1b00
-out:../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.exe
-map:../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/create_sRGB_profile.map
../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/obj/create_sRGB_profile.obj
../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/slb/proflib.lib ../../../../../../../
wntmsci12.pro/slb/icutil.lib msvcrt.lib msvcprt.lib kernel32.lib
user32.lib oldnames.lib
linking ../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.e
xe.manifest ...
dmake:  Error code 31, while making '../../../../../../../wntmsci1
2.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.exe'
dmake:  '../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.exe'
removed.
dmake:  Error code 255, while making 'Contrib/CmdLine/create_sRGB_p
rofile/create_sRGB_profile.exe'
dmake:  Error code 255, while making './wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so
_built_icc'

1 module(s):
icc
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/AOO4
13/main/icc


I've attached the complete log, zipped, and the script containing my
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Re: BSD/Mac-only crash on throwing unspecified exceptions?

2016-10-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/18/2016 11:41 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

Hi

On FreeBSD, and (according to 1 bug reporter) MacOS X, throwing an
exception from a method which isn't specified by that method's exception
specifier, eg. "throw Exception();" when the specifier was
"throw(RuntimeException)",  ends up calling unexpected() and crashing.

I've fixed 2 bugs with this problem (125868 and 127165), but it doesn't
happen on Linux or Windows. Any ideas why?


Could it be a matter of compiler options and defaults?

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Re: [RELEASE COOKBOOK] Adding and structuring the content

2016-10-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan


On 10/15/2016 1:43 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/14/2016 12:11 AM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Marcus wrote:

Am 10/13/2016 09:34 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release


You just need to add some text. Don't care about formatting or
order. We
will do this later when everything (hopefully ;-) ) is there.

Hey, it's a great idea when you would coordinate the creation of this
cookbook. Then you learn more about the whole process, can add
opinions
from your point of view, etc.

What do you think?

Great. Thanks Marcus.


just to let you know:
I've added a lot of stuff and added also some structure and formatting.
But just to not loose the overview. ;-)

Of course this doesn't mean that this structure has to be used. We are
still free to change where it is necessary or looks better.


I'm doing a little editing right now, and it looks good to me at least 
as an interim structure.



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Re: This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/12/2016 11:55 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

Hello Apache, Hello OpenOffice-PMC, Hello Community,

I am absolutely horrified that in a situation where we have to overcome 
problems together, no reasonable planning takes place.


I have started a Wiki page on "How to Cook a Release", 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release, 
so that we will know everything that needs to be done and how to do it. 
That should reduce the risk of something important getting missed. I'm 
adding a section on Translations.


What documents, other than the release notes and the press release, 
should be translated?





How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the translation*, a 
press release is simply published in English without coordinating 
internationally?

How could appear the following article (which is supposed to be a press 
release) without waiting for possible translations?

https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces



I disagree with this approach.


Jörg


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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-12 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/12/2016 2:55 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/12/2016 11:49 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

First, congratulations to everyone on releasing 4.1.3. If this were a
conventional, co-located project I'd like to take you all out for a
drink after work.

Now back to work :-)

At this moment, I hope everyone remembers exactly what they did, what
karma and tools they used, to make the release happen. I would like to
get that written up now, before steps get forgotten. That way, future
release managers will be not be as helpless and confused as I was.

I'm thinking of creating "How to cook a release" as a child page under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases, but given
my inability to delete pages I would like to get opinions first.


JFDI ;-)


Done. 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release


If anyone has material but cannot edit the page, just e-mail me your 
notes and I'll add it.





My general idea is to keep it initially free-form. Just add what you
did, and how you did it, before you forget anything. I can organize it
later, or maybe a technical writer will organize it?


Yes, no big formatting for the start. Just write down what you all did.
Even the chronological and/or logical order can be done afterwards. The
most important part are really the working steps itself.


We can use the 4.1.4 release to verify and fix any omissions in the
recipe.


I think we have to. ;-)

Marcus


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Writing up the release process

2016-10-12 Thread Patricia Shanahan
First, congratulations to everyone on releasing 4.1.3. If this were a 
conventional, co-located project I'd like to take you all out for a 
drink after work.


Now back to work :-)

At this moment, I hope everyone remembers exactly what they did, what 
karma and tools they used, to make the release happen. I would like to 
get that written up now, before steps get forgotten. That way, future 
release managers will be not be as helpless and confused as I was.


I'm thinking of creating "How to cook a release" as a child page under 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases, but given 
my inability to delete pages I would like to get opinions first.


My general idea is to keep it initially free-form. Just add what you 
did, and how you did it, before you forget anything. I can organize it 
later, or maybe a technical writer will organize it?


We can use the 4.1.4 release to verify and fix any omissions in the recipe.

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Re: Need urgent Confluence help

2016-10-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/11/2016 9:23 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I need to delete a page, and do not have the karma to do it.

I either need an addition to my confluence permissions, or for someone
who can do so to delete
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Alternative+AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes


I have mitigated the problem by moving the page that should be deleted 
to under the test page. I would still like to be able to get rid of it 
completely.


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Need urgent Confluence help

2016-10-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan

I need to delete a page, and do not have the karma to do it.

I either need an addition to my confluence permissions, or for someone 
who can do so to delete 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Alternative+AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes


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Re: Two release notes?

2016-10-10 Thread Patricia Shanahan
It's an artifact of editing the release notes page - I wanted to be able 
to compare two slightly different approaches. At this point, the 
"Alternative" should have been deleted, but I have not yet found out how 
to do it, or maybe don't have the Confluence karma to do so.


It will be fixed before the release.

On 10/10/2016 6:19 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

Hello,

What is the meaning of the two almost identical Wiki pages:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Alternative+AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes

and:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes

?



Gretings,
Jörg


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Re: Post vote release actions

2016-10-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/9/2016 8:56 PM, Don Lewis wrote:

On  9 Oct, Patricia Shanahan wrote:



On 10/9/2016 10:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Marcus wrote:

- Change the RC1 into the real release


This one takes a few seconds and is best done close to the release.


- Uploading to the Sourceforge mirrors


This one takes a few hours. I've already prepared a full svn export of
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1/ and I'll be
using it for uploading to SourceForge shortly - I've just verified all
hashes. So the rename above can happen at any time: I'll be using my
local copy and not SVN for the rsync to SourceForge.


Rename done.


I see the binaries under http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.3/
but not the source tarballs.


From my phone, I saw the source tarballs, but only some of the language 
subdirectories. From the computer I used to do the move, I see both.


I think we may be seeing a propagation issue, and should let things 
settle for a few hours.


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Re: Post vote release actions

2016-10-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 10/9/2016 10:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Marcus wrote:

- Change the RC1 into the real release


This one takes a few seconds and is best done close to the release.


- Uploading to the Sourceforge mirrors


This one takes a few hours. I've already prepared a full svn export of
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1/ and I'll be
using it for uploading to SourceForge shortly - I've just verified all
hashes. So the rename above can happen at any time: I'll be using my
local copy and not SVN for the rsync to SourceForge.


Rename done.



Just for information, the svn export from dist took hours. I expected it
to be much faster again, but we have to consider that it's still a huge
amount of data (dozens of GBytes).

Do we want the SourceForge files to be "staged"? This can be done after
the upload and will make Sourceforge files temporarily invisible to
visitors, even though most visitors will simply download from the
official site.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Post vote release actions

2016-10-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/5/2016 8:26 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I plan to start the 4.1.3 vote today. This is a draft of the action list
assuming the vote passes. Please help by correcting, expanding, and
adding anything missing.


Just in case anyone missed it, the vote passed so it is time to execute 
the post vote actions.


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Re: New AOO414 branch?

2016-10-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/9/2016 5:13 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 11:37:38PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Can we open the AOO414 branch? Everything seems to show that 4.1.3 will be
coming in a week or so and for sure there is no further code work to do on
it. So I'd like to have an AOO414 branch where (once they are approved) we
can start merging changes. OpenOffice 4.1.4 is not going to take another
year, so better start early.


If the "4.1.4 Release Manager?" thread ended with me as RM for 4.1.4,
I'll be branching aoo-4.1.4 on Tuesday (right now I'm on travel).


At some point we should formalize the process for selecting an RM. 
Currently, it seems to be someone volunteers, some more people express 
support, nobody opposes, and you are it. By that process, you are the 
4.1.4 RM.



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Vote status

2016-10-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
With about three hours to go on the vote, I've prepared a spreadsheet 
based on the [VOTE] thread.


The current situation is 10 votes, one [0], nine [+1]. Of the +1 votes, 
five are binding. The comments indicate a range of different approaches 
to testing, which is good.


Please check the attached spreadsheet, reply to this message if you see 
any errors. Post to the [VOTE] thread if you wish to change or add a vote.


vote_results.ods
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet

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Re: Signature verification for 4.1.3-RC1

2016-10-08 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I had to make a change in the key preferences to meet the release 
signing requirements. I uploaded to a couple of servers, including MIT, 
and waited a few days.


I didn't think we were supposed to update KEYS directly?

On 10/8/2016 6:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

This is not a blocker for the release (and moreover signature files are
explicitly allowed to be updated during the release vote if needed), but
I couldn't verify signatures in a straightforward way for source packages.

One of the signatures is mine; no problem with that, and that itself is
enough to prove integrity for release approval purposes.

Patricia's one, according to my GPG, is done with a key having a short
ID of 02703386; I couldn't find the public key in the usual places, so I
couldn't verify this one.

Again, this is not a blocker issue since one key is enough, but public
keys used for signing releases are expected to be found at:
http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/KEYS
or (secondary resource) at
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/

The former contains my key and another key by Patricia (short ID
A57935C5); the latter contains the same key by Patricia - it doesn't
contain mine since I never bothered uploading it again to enforce the
long IDs and I now see that someone decided to remove the keys that only
had a short ID, I'll fix it later today.

Where can I find the matching public key by Patricia? It should be added
in SVN to
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/KEYS
which (I believe) maps to the first URL I listed. There is surely a way
to do it without a full checkout, but I didn't check details.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: 4.1.3_release_blocker granted: [Issue 127045] Enforce Polygon API contracts at run-time

2016-10-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 10/7/2016 4:06 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/07/2016 01:03 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I would not have granted a release blocker request for this one, because
it was already fixed in source in the previous release, 4.1.2-patch1.
All 4.1.3 does for it is include it in a binary distribution, worth
indicating in the release notes, but not a reason to revive the bug.


sorry for doing this without your involvement. I thought we have seen
this also as blocker. I would like to have it in the BZ list of all
issues as it is an important part of the release.

So, should I delete the flag or can we keep it in there?


I would delete the flag and treat it as fixed in 4.1.2-patch1. Perhaps 
modify the comment about it to include a link to the bugzilla issue as 
well as the existing CVE link?


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Re: Post vote release actions

2016-10-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/7/2016 3:55 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/07/2016 12:43 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

...

Thanks. Would you like to be the point person working with Sally on the
press release? It would be smooth to coordinate themes between press
release and blog post.


I don't see a problem to create a press release and then to point to it
from every announcement regardless of the communication channel.
Therefore I see it more as convenient to have it in the same person's
hand. ;-)

OK, I'll speak with Sally.


I have already given her a heads-up on this, in the private thread 
"Available to help with any communications needs as you discuss future 
of AOO".


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Re: 4.1.3_release_blocker granted: [Issue 127045] Enforce Polygon API contracts at run-time

2016-10-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I would not have granted a release blocker request for this one, because 
it was already fixed in source in the previous release, 4.1.2-patch1. 
All 4.1.3 does for it is include it in a binary distribution, worth 
indicating in the release notes, but not a reason to revive the bug.


On 10/7/2016 3:03 AM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

Marcus  has granted Marcus 's request for
4.1.3_release_blocker:
Issue 127045: Enforce Polygon API contracts at run-time
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127045



--- Comment #8 from Marcus  ---
Fixed

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Re: Post vote release actions

2016-10-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 10/6/2016 5:42 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/05/2016 06:27 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Patricia Shanahan wrote:

RM: Update
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3 to show
vote result etc.


The only important thing to update is that the release is available,
since the page stays archived.


RM: Edit
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes


release notes to delete "DRAFT" note. - RM


Someone will also have to call for translations and coordinate
translations.


RM: Use svn to move
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1/ to
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.3/. See
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0b3416c973088efdf60056d2aae7f6cee0bd125be4370f3c0ff5324b@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E


for Ariel's tip on how to do this without a full checkout.


SVN moves by URL. So you never need a full checkout for the mv (Ariel
was addressing another issue, i.e., how to add a file to a directory
without a full checkout). For moving, this command will work from any
directory (one line):

$ svn mv https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.3


Someone with SourceForge access: Upload to SourceForge using rsync.


This does need a full checkout (a full export to be precise). I have
access, as several other PMC members; I can take care of this.


Modify OpenOffice web pages to reflect the new release.
Press release and announcement on apache.org home page.


I'll take care about the website updates ...


...and for the post on https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ I have access, but
I thinks others do too, so I'd leave this to someone else - even though
it may be a simple copy/paste from the announcement.


... and could also do a blog post if nobody else want to do this.


Thanks. Would you like to be the point person working with Sally on the 
press release? It would be smooth to coordinate themes between press 
release and blog post.


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Re: {Dicuss] [Vote]

2016-10-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan

No problem. I won't close the vote early.

On 10/6/2016 2:45 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi,

I can only make some time for testing on the 8th Okt.  Is that okay if I
take my vote on this last moment?

Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net> schrieb am Do., 6. Okt. 2016,
19:48:


Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 08:10:40PM -0700, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

Ariel;

In all the builds that I have been involved in with AOO we have

included

a link to a Bugzilla query for all bugs fixed by that release.My

concern

was 2 fold. One that it would give a wrong impression to anyone that
followed the link and the second was to try to keep Bugzilla up to

date.


If it is possible we should construct a query that excludes anything in
Product = Build Tools for the Release Notes.


I think calling out the important stuff directly in the release notes

but

providing a Bugzilla link that shows everything, including tools, is a
reasonable compromise. However, I am very open to suggestions for

improving

the release notes.


IMO yes, there should be a link to the bugzilla query, but it does not
make sense to mention those build-related bugs individually.


Regards


I agree there is no need to highlight those types of bugs individually.
I will remove the individual mention of them from the 4.1.3 Release Notes.

Keith

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Re: {Dicuss] [Vote] Summary

2016-10-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan
This thread has morphed a bit, and I think a summary may be useful at 
this time.


It started with Keith pointing out, correctly, that I was taking a short 
cut by starting the vote before all the relevant bugs had been marked 
"Fixed", although after I was sure they were all fixed in reality. That 
aspect was quickly resolved by Ariel updating the bugs in question. All 
4.1.3 release blocker bugs are now marked as fixed.


It then shifted into a discussion of what should be in the release 
notes. There are three classes of Bugzilla issues involved:


1. Fixes affecting the behavior of binaries. Listing these in the 
release notes is non-controversial.


2. Administrative changes, changing the release number in various places.

3. Fixes to the build systems. Because of the year time lapse since 
4.1.2, there was an accumulation of issues that affect building in 
various environments.


The question was how to handle the second and third classes. They are 
uninteresting, and in some cases incomprehensible, to the vast majority 
of AOO users. The plan is to only mention "interesting" bugs directly in 
the release notes, but include the URL for a Bugzilla query that shows 
all the fixes.



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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - release notes

2016-10-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 10/6/2016 5:29 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/05/2016 12:23 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Could people working on the bugzilla entries check the status and update
as appropriate?


I've seen now all issues as "Resolved - Fixed" - or "Verified - Fixed".


Note that I did not include the Mac Tables and Queries issue,
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622, in the release notes
because I did not see enough confirmation that it is fixed. I have now


IMHO this has changed in the meantime. I've added this also to the
release notes.


denied it 4.1.3 release blocker, but added a request for 4.1.4.


I hope you don't mind that I've deleted the 4.1.4 blocker request.


No problem. I only filed the request to make sure it did not get lost.
Fixed by choice of build environment is much better.

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Re: {Dicuss] [Vote]

2016-10-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/6/2016 5:21 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/06/2016 01:52 PM, schrieb Marcus:

...

I'll take a look into the issue list, update the release notes with
interesting issues for the average user and keep the full details to the
link of BZ issues.


done.

I've also added a line for the BZ issue 126622 "Base 4.1.2 does not open
Tables and Queries in Mac OSX" that it is no longer occurring.


I hate marking things fixed when they mysteriously disappear, because 
anything that mysteriously disappears can reappear, probably at the 
least convenient possible time.


I think, based on Ariel's comment #28 on 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622, that we no longer have 
a mysterious disappearance,  but an actual fix:


It is fixed by switching from building on Mac OS X El Capitan with Xcode 
7 to building on 4.1.3 on macOS Sierra with Xcode 8.


I am going to be offline for several hours starting in about an hour. 
Can you update the release notes to show this?


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Re: {Dicuss] [Vote]

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 10/5/2016 5:51 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 07:17:27PM -0400, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I believe, based on my tracking and testing, that the release blockers
are all fixed. I was hoping the people working on the bugs, especially
those who requested release_blocker, will update them ASAP.


I have no doubt that they have been fixed, but they need to be updated
as we link to a query for them from the Release Notes and what message
does it give to the world if the Release Notes show Release Blockers as
still open?


Most of these bugs don't make any sense in the release notes, they are
too aoo-build specific.


Regards


Ariel;

In all the builds that I have been involved in with AOO we have included
a link to a Bugzilla query for all bugs fixed by that release.My concern
was 2 fold. One that it would give a wrong impression to anyone that
followed the link and the second was to try to keep Bugzilla up to date.

If it is possible we should construct a query that excludes anything in
Product = Build Tools for the Release Notes.


I think calling out the important stuff directly in the release notes 
but providing a Bugzilla link that shows everything, including tools, is 
a reasonable compromise. However, I am very open to suggestions for 
improving the release notes.


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Re: {Dicuss] [Vote]

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan

They are now marked as fixed.

On 10/5/2016 3:28 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I believe, based on my tracking and testing, that the release blockers
are all fixed. I was hoping the people working on the bugs, especially
those who requested release_blocker, will update them ASAP.

On 10/5/2016 2:35 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Just a procedural Question. How can we be calling for a vote when there
are items in Bugzilla marked as release blockers that are not marked as
fixed?

Regards
Keith



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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/5/2016 2:52 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 04/10/2016 Mechtilde wrote:

Apache OpenOffice is a project with a wide user base, who only use the
binaries. So it is important to release well defined and tested binaries.


Yes, this is important. As we did for 4.1.2, I would leave PMC members
free to vote and specify what they have done. Nobody will go to jail for
not building from source and "only" testing the binaries that we are
going to make available for download by one million users per week.

We will not be in the situation where we should count votes and, if
needed (and it happened in the past) a release vote can be canceled by
the Release Manager if a blocker bug is found.

So it is more helpful for us to receive an honest +1 from someone who
specifies he only tested binaries than total silence from the same
person because she understood that you can be useful to the project only
if you build from source. It is clear that we will satisfy the mandatory
requirements anyway and with no need for counting votes. So the more
feedback we get, the better.


+1

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Re: {Dicuss] [Vote]

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I believe, based on my tracking and testing, that the release blockers 
are all fixed. I was hoping the people working on the bugs, especially 
those who requested release_blocker, will update them ASAP.


On 10/5/2016 2:35 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Just a procedural Question. How can we be calling for a vote when there
are items in Bugzilla marked as release blockers that are not marked as
fixed?

Regards
Keith



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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 RC1

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan

+1 Binding

Source testing: Checked signature and hashes. Checked that the three 
source formats contain identical files. Built and tested en-US on 
Windows 8.1


Binary testing: Tested en-GB binary on Windows 7, Windows 8.1, Windows 
10, and Ubuntu 16.04. Also tested fr binary on Windows 8.1


On 10/5/2016 2:07 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

The Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 source and binaries,
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1/, contain
several bug fixes. See the draft release notes at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes


Please vote on releasing it as 4.1.3 by replying to this thread

[ ] +1 Approve, with description of any testing you have done
[ ] 0 Abstain
[ ] -1 Disapprove, with explanation.

In addition, if you are a PMC member please indicate "Binding" if you
intend to cast a binding vote, which requires a build and test from source.

Please tag any discussion, rather than votes, with [DISCUSS][VOTE].

The vote will conclude no sooner than 10 p.m UTC on Saturday, October
8th, 2016.

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[VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 RC1

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The Apache OpenOffice 4.1.3 source and binaries, 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1/, contain 
several bug fixes. See the draft release notes at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes


Please vote on releasing it as 4.1.3 by replying to this thread

[ ] +1 Approve, with description of any testing you have done
[ ] 0 Abstain
[ ] -1 Disapprove, with explanation.

In addition, if you are a PMC member please indicate "Binding" if you 
intend to cast a binding vote, which requires a build and test from source.


Please tag any discussion, rather than votes, with [DISCUSS][VOTE].

The vote will conclude no sooner than 10 p.m UTC on Saturday, October 
8th, 2016.


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Post vote release actions

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I plan to start the 4.1.3 vote today. This is a draft of the action list 
assuming the vote passes. Please help by correcting, expanding, and 
adding anything missing.


RM: Update 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3 to show 
vote result etc.


RM: Edit 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes 
release notes to delete "DRAFT" note. - RM


RM: Use svn to move 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1/ to 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.3/. See 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0b3416c973088efdf60056d2aae7f6cee0bd125be4370f3c0ff5324b@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E 
for Ariel's tip on how to do this without a full checkout.


Someone with SourceForge access: Upload to SourceForge using rsync.

Modify OpenOffice web pages to reflect the new release.

Press release and announcement on apache.org home page.

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Re: 4.1.3_release_blocker denied: [Issue 126622] Base 4.1.2 does not open Tables and Queries in Mac OSX

2016-10-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/5/2016 2:32 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2016-10-05, 12:48 AM Andrea Pescetti wrote:


Larry Gusaas wrote:

Is this approved or not approved as a release blocker???
I thought there was a fix for this.
It is essential that this is fixed for Mac users.


As I understand it, the reason is lack of testing and, as explained by
Ariel, system changes in the latest 2 versions of MacOS X that require
build changes for this to work. But testing is easy: just download a
4.1.3-RC1 build from
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.3-rc1/ and give
your feedback in the issue. If this doesn't make it for 4.1.3, it is a
clear candidate for 4.1.4 (which is surely not going to take one year!).

Regards,
  Andrea.


Base works in 4.1.3-RC1. I worked in the build that Ariel posted on the
issue for this bug. Apparently it doesn't require build changes to work,
or have those changes been made. Or was Ariel referring to the bug that
means the legacy Java 6 is required for Java to work on AOO???


I tried to find out what was going on in the thread

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/0e96354facb4683435be70f428f8381636b2becaa89b34ab7b5f3ef0@%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E

Subject: Status of "Base 4.1.2 does not open Tables and Queries in Mac OSX"

I could not get a clear consensus that it has been fixed in 4.1.3, so I 
could not include it in the release notes as a fixed bug. There is still 
time to change that.



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Ready to Vote on 4.1.3?

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Please post only objections to calling a vote on 4.1.3 tomorrow. I will 
treat silence as consent.


As far as I can tell, we are ready to go.

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Testing 4.1.3

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I have done some basic testing for the following environments and 
language versions:


Windows 7 en_GB
Windows 8.1 en_GB, fr
Windows 10 en_GB
Ubuntu 16.04 en_GB

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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - release notes

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Could people working on the bugzilla entries check the status and update 
as appropriate?


Note that I did not include the Mac Tables and Queries issue, 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622, in the release notes 
because I did not see enough confirmation that it is fixed. I have now 
denied it 4.1.3 release blocker, but added a request for 4.1.4.


On 10/4/2016 2:47 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/04/2016 10:31 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Release+Notes



ah, thanks. I've updated some text (e.g., separated the sec issue into
an own paragraph) and updated the link for the BZ issue list as it still
points to 4.0.1.

I'm a bit worried about the many issues that are not fixed, resolved,
closed [1].

But besides this it's OK. So, we are also done here.

[1]
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=flagtypes.name=equals=Importance_format=advanced=4.1.3_release_blocker%2B


Marcus




On 10/4/2016 1:29 PM, Marcus wrote:

OK, binary and source code testing is on a good way.

What about the release notes. Are these somewhere reachable/readable
already?


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Re: Question about spell check

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 10/4/2016 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I downloaded and installed
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
"colour" (English spelling).

I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
has never run any OpenOffice before.

It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
language.

What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?


it's the language from the underlying system.

The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".

However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.

*IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
installation file. However, for the default spell check it's
discuss-worthy.


I'll check that it is not a regression. If it isn't, we can put it aside 
for now. It does seem strange that I need to do more to get en-GB 
spelling after installing an en-GB AOO.



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Question about spell check

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I downloaded and installed 
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when 
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected 
"colour" (English spelling).


I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile, 
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that 
has never run any OpenOffice before.


It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but 
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation 
language.


What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?

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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan



On 10/4/2016 4:24 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:



On Oct 3, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:


On 10/3/2016 12:45 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/03/2016 09:40 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Testing seems to be going well, but there is a very specific requirement
for a release.

A PMC member, to cast a binding +1 vote approving a relese, needs to
have built the software from source and tested it on a machine under the
PMC member's control. See
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval

PMC members please indicate when they have done that test, to help me
decide when to start a vote.


I've build today that branch with release options. Is this sufficient or
do I need to build from the [zip|gz|bzip] file?


I believe it does have to be from the zip etc. but I am not sure. The actual 
wording is:

"Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED to download all signed 
source code packages onto their own hardware, verify that they meet all requirements of 
ASF policy on releases as described below, validate all cryptographic signatures, compile 
as provided, and test the result on their own platform."



The release is the tarball/zip itself and not the "tag". So it (the
build) needs to be from the zip/tarball.


I have built and run from the zip. I have also decompressed and
extracted each of the tarballs, and used "diff -r" to confirm they are
each identical to the zip. I do plan to do the signature and hash checks
for each of the three files.

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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On some of my Windows builds, I get a failure, but doing a new "build 
--all", without cleaning, works. That may be worth trying while you are 
waiting for more expert advice.


I think there may be problems in whatever is supposed to be enforcing 
dependency order, so that a module gets built too soon, while things on 
which it depends have not all been built.


On the comparisons between trees, "diff -r A B" does not take that long 
and gives full confirmation that A and B are paths to directory trees 
with the same files and identical file content.


On 10/4/2016 9:11 AM, Marcus wrote:



Am 04.10.2016 um 00:30 schrieb Marcus:

Am 10/03/2016 11:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

On 10/3/2016 2:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Marcus wrote:

wow, *all signed source code packages* ?


I assume that this does not literally mean that you must test the .bz2,
the .gz and the .zip. They are equivalent. This sentence is for when a
project makes a release composed of different parts. For the record,
trunk is already set to avoid duplication of packages, but AOO413 still
uses the old convention of 3 source packages. (If it helps, I've used
the .bz2 for my tests!).


For my testing, I'm assuming that it is enough to be sure a package is
identical to one I've tested. In particular, the .bz2 and .gz decompress
to the same .tar file, so I don't even plan to extract one of the tar
files for further checks.


ah, great hint.

I've uncompressed all 3 files, diff'ed the .tar.bz2 and .tar.gz files,
and finally uncompressed all files until the actual dirs/files. All 3
dirs had the same total file size of 1,541,414,704 bytes. This has to
be enough when it comes to "you have to check all source files".

Tomorrow I'll build the release from a package file.


I've uncompressed the ZIP file and started a clean build. Unfortunately,
I get the following error:

[...]
/share/linux2/aoo-4.1.3/main/solver/413/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/CxxObject/svx/source/fmcomp/fmgridif.o:
In function
`FmXGridControl::createPeer(com::sun::star::uno::Reference
const&, com::sun::star::uno::Reference
const&)':
fmgridif.cxx:(.text+0x68b2): undefined reference to `non-virtual thunk
to WindowListenerMultiplexer::acquire()'
/usr/bin/ld:
/share/linux2/aoo-4.1.3/main/solver/413/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/CxxObject/svx/source/fmcomp/fmgridif.o:
relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol
`_ZThn48_N25WindowListenerMultiplexer7acquireEv' can not be used when
making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
/usr/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
/share/linux2/aoo-4.1.3/main/solenv/gbuild/LinkTarget.mk:259: recipe for
target
'/share/linux2/aoo-4.1.3/main/solver/413/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/LinkTarget/Library/libsvxcore.so'
failed
make: ***
[/share/linux2/aoo-4.1.3/main/solver/413/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/LinkTarget/Library/libsvxcore.so]
Error 1
dmake:  Error code 2, while making 'all'

1 module(s):
svx
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/share/linux2/aoo-4.1.3/main/svx/prj

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build
by running:

build --from svx


Marcus


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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Testing the reference builds is indeed extremely important, and should 
be most of the testing.


The significance of the builds from source is that a PMC member can only 
cast a binding +1 vote if they have done one, and we need at least three 
binding +1 votes to release. They also need to have a general opinion 
that the release should go out, and all the non-binding votes and 
testing reports may influence that.




On 10/3/2016 10:45 PM, Mechtilde wrote:

Hello,

for my understanding, beside doing a good build it is necessary to have
and totest defined reference builds.

The way I see it, it is not easy to do a good build if you didn't have
enough practice doing it.

I didn't myself any C/C++ build before. So IHMO I will waste time to
improve my build environment instead of testing a reference build

My results of testing belong to the reference builds published as RC1 at
dist.apache.org.

Apache OpenOffice is a project with a wide user base, who only use the
binaries. So it is important to release well defined and tested binaries.

Otherwise support becomes hell.

Kind regards

Am 04.10.2016 um 01:58 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

On 10/3/2016 3:30 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/03/2016 11:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

On 10/3/2016 2:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Marcus wrote:




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Apache OpenOffice release notification

2016-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
The Apache OpenOffice project is currently preparing and testing a 
release candidate, 4.1.3-rc1. The total size of the artifacts, including 
the binary files, exceeds a gigabyte, so the release policy calls for 
notifying Infrastructure.


I do not expect significant Infrastructure impact because AOO is 
normally downloaded from SourceForge, not ASF or its mirrors.


Please contact me or post to dev@openoffice.apache.org if you need more 
details.


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Infra notification?

2016-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
According to http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#heads-up, 
infra needs to be notified in advance of releases of more than 1GB.


What is the total size of our binaries?

Do our releases really count for this, because most downloading will be 
from SourceForge, not ASF mirrors.


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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/3/2016 3:30 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/03/2016 11:26 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

On 10/3/2016 2:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Marcus wrote:

wow, *all signed source code packages* ?


I assume that this does not literally mean that you must test the .bz2,
the .gz and the .zip. They are equivalent. This sentence is for when a
project makes a release composed of different parts. For the record,
trunk is already set to avoid duplication of packages, but AOO413 still
uses the old convention of 3 source packages. (If it helps, I've used
the .bz2 for my tests!).


For my testing, I'm assuming that it is enough to be sure a package is
identical to one I've tested. In particular, the .bz2 and .gz decompress
to the same .tar file, so I don't even plan to extract one of the tar
files for further checks.


ah, great hint.

I've uncompressed all 3 files, diff'ed the .tar.bz2 and .tar.gz files,
and finally uncompressed all files until the actual dirs/files. All 3
dirs had the same total file size of 1,541,414,704 bytes. This has to be
enough when it comes to "you have to check all source files".

Tomorrow I'll build the release from a package file.

@Andrea:
Can you please check the
"apache-openoffice-4.1.3-r1761381-src.tar.gz.sha256" file? It's in
binary mode and not useable for checksum comparsion.


I am doing a build directly from the source distribution, but I've also 
done a "diff -r" between it and the svn, and only found the expected 
differences.



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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 10/3/2016 2:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Marcus wrote:

wow, *all signed source code packages* ?


I assume that this does not literally mean that you must test the .bz2,
the .gz and the .zip. They are equivalent. This sentence is for when a
project makes a release composed of different parts. For the record,
trunk is already set to avoid duplication of packages, but AOO413 still
uses the old convention of 3 source packages. (If it helps, I've used
the .bz2 for my tests!).


For my testing, I'm assuming that it is enough to be sure a package is 
identical to one I've tested. In particular, the .bz2 and .gz decompress 
to the same .tar file, so I don't even plan to extract one of the tar 
files for further checks.



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Re: Testing 4.1.3

2016-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
There were German dictionary changes. Can you tell the difference 
between de, de_AT, and de_CH? If so, could you perhaps do a test in each 
of the other dialects?


On 10/3/2016 12:19 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Hello,

I installed and tested the german version (de) on:

 - Ubuntu 16.04.1 (64bit)
 - Xubuntu 16.04.1 (32bit)

Everything is working as expected.

regards

Matthias


Am 03.10.2016 um 13:29 schrieb Mechtilde:

Hello,

I did the same tests for Linux x86-64 deb de.

I did also some work with it without problems

Regards

Mechtilde

Am 03.10.2016 um 12:57 schrieb Marcus:

Am 09/25/2016 08:33 PM, schrieb Marcus:

Am 09/25/2016 04:33 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

I suggest that people start downloading and testing 4.1.3 as soon as
there are binaries they can run. I can't start the formal vote period
until we have a complete release candidate.

thanks for the pointer, I'll wait for the Linux 64-bit and Windows
builds.

I've done the following for testing:

Installation


Windows 10
--
Windows deOK
Windows de langpackOK
Windows en-USOK
Windows en-US langpackOK

Fedora 21 64-bit

Linux x86-64 rpm deOK
Linux x86-64 rpm de langpackOK
Linux x86-64 rpm en-USOK
Linux x86-64 rpm en-US langpackOK

Quick test
==
Starting, creating files, saving, copy & pasting and quittingOK

Release data

Version number, "About" dialogOK

Of course not a full QA test round. However, as the fixes are small,
this quick test should be good enough.

Marcus


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Re: Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan


On 10/3/2016 12:45 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/03/2016 09:40 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Testing seems to be going well, but there is a very specific requirement
for a release.

A PMC member, to cast a binding +1 vote approving a relese, needs to
have built the software from source and tested it on a machine under the
PMC member's control. See
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval

PMC members please indicate when they have done that test, to help me
decide when to start a vote.


I've build today that branch with release options. Is this sufficient or
do I need to build from the [zip|gz|bzip] file?


I believe it does have to be from the zip etc. but I am not sure. The 
actual wording is:


"Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED to download 
all signed source code packages onto their own hardware, verify that 
they meet all requirements of ASF policy on releases as described below, 
validate all cryptographic signatures, compile as provided, and test the 
result on their own platform."



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Testing 4.1.3 - source builds

2016-10-03 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Testing seems to be going well, but there is a very specific requirement 
for a release.


A PMC member, to cast a binding +1 vote approving a relese, needs to 
have built the software from source and tested it on a machine under the 
PMC member's control. See 
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval


PMC members please indicate when they have done that test, to help me 
decide when to start a vote.


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Re: [Noob] Code question

2016-10-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan

Here's an answer to part of your question.

On 10/2/2016 9:49 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
...

What does SAL NO VTABLE mean? Is it macro code?

...

It's time to start using the OpenOffice OpenGrok at 
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/


(Or use find and grep in combination, but that takes longer).

Searching for SAL_NO_VTABLE as a Definition in the trunk shows that it 
is a #define in main/sal/inc/sal/types.h


Viewing the code in types.h:

314/** Use this for pure virtual classes, e.g. class SAL_NO_VTABLE Foo { ...
315This hinders the compiler from setting a generic vtable stating that
316a pure virtual function was called and thus slightly reduces code 
size.

317*/
318#ifdef _MSC_VER
319#   define SAL_NO_VTABLE __declspec(novtable)
320#else
321#   define SAL_NO_VTABLE
322#endif




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