Re: documentation?
On Sat, 5 May 2001, Aaron Trevena wrote: > just curious where the peeps who were going to do some more documentation > have got to.. any news? urls? agendas? Its ok - I'll reply to myself... :) its a saturday and it sunny outside but dial up is chaper weekends than weekdays sooo.. > I am just working on a guide to creating, parsing and manipulating Dia's > XML format - if you are very very lucky I might even do an annotated > version of the DTD, but don't hold your breath and somebody who created it > or works with it more than me might be better at it. Anybody who knows teh > DTD or is involved in how Dia mucks about with its XML can you conact me > on or off list? pH33R my '13et Go0gL3 5k1Llz!! back in november Bryan J. Smith posted this to a different list that I may have to slurp into Mail::Audit for data mining later: http://www.matrixlist.com/pipermail/leaplist/2000-November/007909.html included in his mail is this url about GNOME/Dia and XML. http://linux.inrialpes.fr/veillard/XML/xml.html also check out http://togaware.com/linuxbook/dia.pdf - the dia chapter from toga's linux book and our very own James' page on xml-sax giving you agood idea on Dia does its XML. http://www.daa.com.au/~james/gnome/xml-sax/xml-sax.html anybody now if these urls are less relevent than they seem. anyways I'll use them as a starting point for my k-rad guide to doing bad voodoo with Dia's xml. cheers, A. (TheBlueJackal on Freshmeat, Mojo Jojo on any unreal tournament server) -- .sig is currently undergoing engineering works, please change at piccadilly circus.
documentation?
just curious where the peeps who were going to do some more documentation have got to.. any news? urls? agendas? I am just working on a guide to creating, parsing and manipulating Dia's XML format - if you are very very lucky I might even do an annotated version of the DTD, but don't hold your breath and somebody who created it or works with it more than me might be better at it. Anybody who knows teh DTD or is involved in how Dia mucks about with its XML can you conact me on or off list? The guide will consist mostly of recycled AutoDIAL (http://www.droogs.org/autodial/) code and documentation although I'm reading up on various bits of Dia so expect to see some of the FAQ in there and some pointers to IBM deverloperworks research papers on using xml and perl. Also the tutorial will be perl oriented because thats how I parse XML because nothing else has teh sheer power and versatility of perl. Anybody interested in contributing to it please respond on or off list. in case you're wondering several friends have asked me to explain how to do some stuff with Dia XML and rather than work out their problems I'm just doing this guide to keep them off my back *grin*. regards, A. P.S. AutoDIAL is now at version 0.04, it finds some attributes and most methods and handles most perl code. version 0.05 will be mostly optimisations and bug fixes (although nobody has sent me any bugs on it yet) and will the beta before I release version 1.0. from there I plan to add support for multiple languages and also provide a way of choosing whether to output to dia or graphviz. -- .sig is currently undergoing engineering works, please change at piccadilly circus.
Re: dia documentation
> if you are building out of CVS (and even then, it may compile and install > okay without docs (haven't tested this though)). It does for me (With the not-so-nice HTML). Steffen _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: dia documentation
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, Steffen Macke wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having problems building the dia documentation: > * The note/tip icons don't show up in the HTML. > * The screenshot images have the extension *.gif in the HTML instead of *.png > > Could this problem be related to a wrong stylesheet? Yes. Docs written by the GDP use a variant of Docbook that allows PNG images (this was done as a temporary measure until an updated DTD is released that could use PNGs). It can be grabbed from the GDP website (somewhere on http://developer.gnome.org/). I don't know about the first problem though. Note that an HTML version of the docs will be included in the tarball, so db2html will only be required if you are building out of CVS (and even then, it may compile and install okay without docs (haven't tested this though)). James.
dia documentation
Hi, I'm having problems building the dia documentation: * The note/tip icons don't show up in the HTML. * The screenshot images have the extension *.gif in the HTML instead of *.png Could this problem be related to a wrong stylesheet? Steffen _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: documentation effort
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Scott Harrison wrote: > Looks like we have a team based on the four responses. > (Thank you Gustavo, James, Harry, Aaron, and Ben.) > > And, YES, this is NOT user documentation. This > is developer documentation. > > Dia documentation should (of course) use markup. > I guess there are two things needed for quick development: > * code needs internal documentation notes which can be > parsed into graphical/textual documentation > * graphical documentation should be not be just read-only; > alterations to graphical/textual documentation should seamlessly > pass back into the code [snip] To get some immediately useful documentation, it may be better to look at documenting things relating to specific tasks rather than deciding to document everything (this was my "what documentation to people want?" question). Some stuff is probably better to not document too much, as it is subject to change, but other stuff stays more constant. Here are some tasks people may want to do (and the parts of dia they would need to know about for that): - How do I write a new object type for dia? - knowledge of dia object system and how to create new objects - overview of properties interface - dia rendering model - info on load/save - I want to do something with the XML files dia creates, or write new files for dia to read - Info on the basic layout of dia files (dtd, etc) - common attributes of objects - maybe more detailed info on specific objects - I want to write a .shape file - This is mostly taken care of in the doc/custom-shapes file. There are probably other interesting tasks. Documenting something that ism't of interest or is likely to change from version to version is probably not the best use of your time. James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/
documentation effort
Looks like we have a team based on the four responses. (Thank you Gustavo, James, Harry, Aaron, and Ben.) And, YES, this is NOT user documentation. This is developer documentation. Dia documentation should (of course) use markup. I guess there are two things needed for quick development: * code needs internal documentation notes which can be parsed into graphical/textual documentation * graphical documentation should be not be just read-only; alterations to graphical/textual documentation should seamlessly pass back into the code Basically, some people need to be doing top-->down (graphical into internal code comments) and others need to go bottom-->up (internal code comments into graphical). Here are some initial questions. * What is dia? (System-view documentation) Summary information of the 1825 files in my dia tree directory and their interrelationships. (I volunteer to do this since wrapping and burning application/system specifications is what I often do.) * What tool(s) should be used? Dia-UML primarily of course. Others mentioned were gtk-doc and doxygen. The docbook sgml stuff looks good, and since Gustavo swears by it, let's probably move in that path? I like what it does with templates. * What pieces of code should we comment up, work up first? Here is a line-of-code listing of some of the code pieces: 1078 ./objects/custom/shape_info.c 1109 ./app/layer_dialog.c 1114 ./lib/beziershape.c 1115 ./objects/UML/association.c 1117 ./app/interface.c 1185 ./lib/properties.c 1205 ./objects/UML/class.c 1206 ./app/render_eps.c 1209 ./plug-ins/wpg/wpg.c 1280 ./plug-ins/cgm/cgm.c 1379 ./objects/custom/custom_object.c 1459 ./plug-ins/xfig/xfig-import.c 1615 ./app/render_libart.c 2694 ./objects/UML/class_dialog.c I will set up a read-write CVS server and web page by the end of the week for the four of you to use, as well as anonymous access. James, I'm a newbie, so feel free to provide better guidance to any of this. Everybody else, I'm a newbie, so feel free to laugh or something. :) -Scott
Re: OPEN REQUEST FOR RESURRECTING DOCUMENTATION
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Scott Harrison wrote: > Fine with me. Nice set of pages you have there. So I guess the next > big > question is, > > WHO WANTS TO HELP DOCUMENT THINGS? I'd love to help if you're referring to devel docs. May I suggest the use of gtk-doc? I've recently learned how to use it and I love it. I should warn though that I don't know the internals of Dia code, but would love to, and so will be asking lots of questions. > > If volunteers send me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) their e-mail addresses, > we can begin to set up a new effort at documentation. As soon (within > a week) as there is some reasonable understanding as to how to proceed, > we can begin communicating through dia-list as to what is going on. > > I do offer my site as a mirror site for dia to support redundancy. > > -Scott > > Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > > > Scott Harrison écrit: > > > > > I have a stable machine on a gigabyte network. I enjoy documentation > > > AND am good at it, typically using XML (via Python). > > > I love Dia. I am developing a number of things with Dia. Any chance > > > I could host the documentation? Is there access to the original > > > software documentation? Should we start from scratch? > > > > Perhaps Doxygen (http://www.doxygen.org/) could be used as it allow to write > > code and doc at the same time ? > > > > Hub > > -- Gustavo J. A. M. Carneiro [http://linuxdeec.fe.up.pt/~ee96090]
Re: OPEN REQUEST FOR RESURRECTING DOCUMENTATION
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Scott Harrison wrote: > Fine with me. Nice set of pages you have there. So I guess the next > big > question is, > > WHO WANTS TO HELP DOCUMENT THINGS? > > If volunteers send me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) their e-mail addresses, > we can begin to set up a new effort at documentation. As soon (within > a week) as there is some reasonable understanding as to how to proceed, > we can begin communicating through dia-list as to what is going on. > > I do offer my site as a mirror site for dia to support redundancy. Are you talking about user documentation or developer documentation? Note that we now have user documentation (one of the great new features of dia 0.87, provided by the GNOME documentation project). This is being distributed with the application. If you want to contribute to this documentation, contact the GDP. There is not much developer documentation at present however. What sort of info do you want? James.
Re: Re: OPEN REQUEST FOR RESURRECTING DOCUMENTATION
I'm interested in documentation, but know nothing about the internals (yet). Longer term I want to be able to use Dia functionality inother programs, esp. called from python, and that requires better understanding of the internals and the modularization. On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Ben A. Hetland wrote: > Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 20:51:01 +0100 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Ben A. Hetland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: OPEN REQUEST FOR RESURRECTING DOCUMENTATION > > > Scott Harrison wrote: > > > > Fine with me. Nice set of pages you have there. So I guess the > next > > big > > question is, > > > > WHO WANTS TO HELP DOCUMENT THINGS? > > > > If volunteers send me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) their e-mail addresses, > > Well, I kinda already volunteered, so I'd like to contribute... > although for the next month or so my first priority will be what is > needed solely for my [payed] project. > > > > we can begin to set up a new effort at documentation. As soon > (within > > a week) as there is some reasonable understanding as to how to > proceed, > > we can begin communicating through dia-list as to what is going > on. > > However, please note that the purpose of my original question was > to > locate > documentation & ideas that were already "there somewhere"... and to > avoid the > more tedious (and time-consuming) task of reverse-engineering. > > (Yes, I know that we programmer's tend to be sloppy about > documenting > for > others what we make... gotta have some trade secrets... ;-) > > > > > > > Hubert Figuiere wrote: > [...snip...] > > > > > > Perhaps Doxygen (http://www.doxygen.org/) could be used as it > allow to write > > > code and doc at the same time ? > > That's an idea. But besides that, Doxygen might (?) have a problem > identifying > the classes buried in the Dia design, since after all it's C not > C++ or > Java... > > In my view, one of the problems with such automated tools to > "resurrect > and/or > reverse engineer" existing code is that they're too accurate -- > they > include > all the details and any patological interdependencies that might > have > grown > into the source over the years, thereby obscuring the basic ideas & > structure. > (It cannot distinguish between important and unimportant design > features, > ending up showing just a lot of "noise".) > > IMHO, merely converting code comments into HTML/RTF/whatever > doesn't > improve > _that_ much over just reading the source files directly... It > doesn't > always > reveal the structure. > > But that's just me, though... :-) > > > Actually, I made a very tiny start using Dia itself (why not!?!!) > and > the UML > elements, creating a class diagram based on header files and the > README > file. > ...until I found that this was very time-consuming since I had not > gained any > familiarity with the source beforehand. > > > -+-Ben-+- > > > -- Harry George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OPEN REQUEST FOR RESURRECTING DOCUMENTATION
Scott Harrison wrote: > > Fine with me. Nice set of pages you have there. So I guess the next > big > question is, > > WHO WANTS TO HELP DOCUMENT THINGS? > > If volunteers send me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) their e-mail addresses, Well, I kinda already volunteered, so I'd like to contribute... although for the next month or so my first priority will be what is needed solely for my [payed] project. > we can begin to set up a new effort at documentation. As soon (within > a week) as there is some reasonable understanding as to how to proceed, > we can begin communicating through dia-list as to what is going on. However, please note that the purpose of my original question was to locate documentation & ideas that were already "there somewhere"... and to avoid the more tedious (and time-consuming) task of reverse-engineering. (Yes, I know that we programmer's tend to be sloppy about documenting for others what we make... gotta have some trade secrets... ;-) > > Hubert Figuiere wrote: [...snip...] > > > > Perhaps Doxygen (http://www.doxygen.org/) could be used as it allow to write > > code and doc at the same time ? That's an idea. But besides that, Doxygen might (?) have a problem identifying the classes buried in the Dia design, since after all it's C not C++ or Java... In my view, one of the problems with such automated tools to "resurrect and/or reverse engineer" existing code is that they're too accurate -- they include all the details and any patological interdependencies that might have grown into the source over the years, thereby obscuring the basic ideas & structure. (It cannot distinguish between important and unimportant design features, ending up showing just a lot of "noise".) IMHO, merely converting code comments into HTML/RTF/whatever doesn't improve _that_ much over just reading the source files directly... It doesn't always reveal the structure. But that's just me, though... :-) Actually, I made a very tiny start using Dia itself (why not!?!!) and the UML elements, creating a class diagram based on header files and the README file. ...until I found that this was very time-consuming since I had not gained any familiarity with the source beforehand. -+-Ben-+-
Re: OPEN REQUEST FOR RESURRECTING DOCUMENTATION
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Scott Harrison wrote: > Fine with me. Nice set of pages you have there. So I guess the next > big > question is, > > WHO WANTS TO HELP DOCUMENT THINGS? I'm more interested in the xml side - ie creating tools to work with the xml or plugins to work with dia. I'd be able to provide a little about the xml from my own reverse engineering hopefully one of the dev team can provide more info (DTD isn't documentation enough). A.
OPEN REQUEST FOR RESURRECTING DOCUMENTATION
Fine with me. Nice set of pages you have there. So I guess the next big question is, WHO WANTS TO HELP DOCUMENT THINGS? If volunteers send me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) their e-mail addresses, we can begin to set up a new effort at documentation. As soon (within a week) as there is some reasonable understanding as to how to proceed, we can begin communicating through dia-list as to what is going on. I do offer my site as a mirror site for dia to support redundancy. -Scott Hubert Figuiere wrote: > > Scott Harrison écrit: > > > I have a stable machine on a gigabyte network. I enjoy documentation > > AND am good at it, typically using XML (via Python). > > I love Dia. I am developing a number of things with Dia. Any chance > > I could host the documentation? Is there access to the original > > software documentation? Should we start from scratch? > > Perhaps Doxygen (http://www.doxygen.org/) could be used as it allow to write > code and doc at the same time ? > > Hub
Re: Source Documentation
Scott Harrison écrit: > I have a stable machine on a gigabyte network. I enjoy documentation > AND am good at it, typically using XML (via Python). > I love Dia. I am developing a number of things with Dia. Any chance > I could host the documentation? Is there access to the original > software documentation? Should we start from scratch? Perhaps Doxygen (http://www.doxygen.org/) could be used as it allow to write code and doc at the same time ? Hub
Re: Source Documentation
I have a stable machine on a gigabyte network. I enjoy documentation AND am good at it, typically using XML (via Python). I love Dia. I am developing a number of things with Dia. Any chance I could host the documentation? Is there access to the original software documentation? Should we start from scratch? -Scott "Ben A. Hetland" wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm looking into embedding parts of the Dia code into one of my own > applications (mainly for drawing very simple diagrams with predefined > symbols), and if it can contribute to the improvement of Dia itself > that's just a bonus for everyone... > > However, in this context of doing this, and extracting the components > I need (and as little as possible in excess of this), I'm looking for > any sources of documentation of the code structure (design), to help > me perhaps save some time getting to know the basic design ideas and > philosophy... > > Judging from the home page and the CVS tree, such documentation (at > the programming level -- not the end-user level) seems to be scarce > at the moment. (Basically the README file and a fair amount of source > code comments.) Does any such doc exist (available) that I'm not > aware of? Some class diagrams, for instance? > > I could of course "reverse-engineer" the source myself, but that seems > a bit waste of time and pointless since somebody obviously have done > some "engineering" to design the product in the first place... > > (And the Dia Documentation Project's web page seems to have been down > "forever" now...) > > Any pointers here? > I'm of course willing to contribute myself... > > (For other reasons, not related to the Dia inclusions, I will mainly > be working under Win32 on this project, and with MFC as well...) > > Regards, > -+-Ben-+-
Source Documentation
Hello, I'm looking into embedding parts of the Dia code into one of my own applications (mainly for drawing very simple diagrams with predefined symbols), and if it can contribute to the improvement of Dia itself that's just a bonus for everyone... However, in this context of doing this, and extracting the components I need (and as little as possible in excess of this), I'm looking for any sources of documentation of the code structure (design), to help me perhaps save some time getting to know the basic design ideas and philosophy... Judging from the home page and the CVS tree, such documentation (at the programming level -- not the end-user level) seems to be scarce at the moment. (Basically the README file and a fair amount of source code comments.) Does any such doc exist (available) that I'm not aware of? Some class diagrams, for instance? I could of course "reverse-engineer" the source myself, but that seems a bit waste of time and pointless since somebody obviously have done some "engineering" to design the product in the first place... (And the Dia Documentation Project's web page seems to have been down "forever" now...) Any pointers here? I'm of course willing to contribute myself... (For other reasons, not related to the Dia inclusions, I will mainly be working under Win32 on this project, and with MFC as well...) Regards, -+-Ben-+-
Re: documentation
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Harry George wrote: > > Try the (unofficial) Dia tutorial at: > > http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/index.html Since it's actually a quite decent tutorial, I'll include it in the dia-web as a piece of documentation. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne
Re: Re: documentation
Try the (unofficial) Dia tutorial at: http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/index.html On 11 Sep 2000, Lars Clausen wrote: > Date: 11 Sep 2000 22:13:49 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: documentation > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Dalbir Singh wrote: > > > hai, > > I am a college student and interested with DIa which run on LInux. > > i would to learn more about DIa biut there is no documentation . > > how can i get the dicumentation > > pls mail me the link or the documenation to me. > > i really nedd it and i am seroius. > > pls help me men. > > bye > > The documentation is terribly scarce. We had some a long time ago, but > it > disappeared, and somehow nobody has made a new set. Partly because most > of > it can be figured out once you know to use the right and middle mouse > button menus and double-clicking for changing properties. > > -Lars > > -- > Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor > "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg > will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield > --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of > Khorne > > > -- Harry George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: documentation
Hi, Just so you all know: The tutorial was created by Harry George ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ). I just posted the link... cya mark Lars Clausen wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Mark Besner wrote: > > > Hi, > > You may want to look at : > > http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/index.html > > > > hope it helps :) > > Nice tutorial, we needed that. Thanks! > > A couple notes: > > When making the lines initially, they snap to connection points (and in the > newest CVS, they snap at both ends). You don't have to make the line, then > correct with the pointer. > > You can change the attributes (like font, line width) for a group of > objects at the same time (have to group them first). > > Aligning is not as confusing if you think of it as aligning their > horizontal positions. It's also very useful for centering text in boxes > (except that they somehow don't quite work right now... *growl*). > > The check boxes in the Select menu controls how the set of selected objects > is determined. Normal select is replace. The rest are most interesting when > you drag-select. Think of the original selection as one set of objects and > the dragged-select as another set. The check boxes then determines the > set operation used to combine the two: > > Previously selected: A, B, C > Drag-selected: B, C, D > > The selection becomes: > Select/Replace: B, C, D > Select/Union: A, B, C, D > Select/Intersect: B, C > Select/Remove: A > Select/Invert: A, D (seems broken, though). > > -Lars > > -- > Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor > "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg > will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield > --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne
Re: documentation
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Mark Besner wrote: > Hi, > You may want to look at : > http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/index.html > > hope it helps :) Nice tutorial, we needed that. Thanks! A couple notes: When making the lines initially, they snap to connection points (and in the newest CVS, they snap at both ends). You don't have to make the line, then correct with the pointer. You can change the attributes (like font, line width) for a group of objects at the same time (have to group them first). Aligning is not as confusing if you think of it as aligning their horizontal positions. It's also very useful for centering text in boxes (except that they somehow don't quite work right now... *growl*). The check boxes in the Select menu controls how the set of selected objects is determined. Normal select is replace. The rest are most interesting when you drag-select. Think of the original selection as one set of objects and the dragged-select as another set. The check boxes then determines the set operation used to combine the two: Previously selected: A, B, C Drag-selected: B, C, D The selection becomes: Select/Replace: B, C, D Select/Union: A, B, C, D Select/Intersect: B, C Select/Remove: A Select/Invert: A, D (seems broken, though). -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne
Re: documentation
Hi, You may want to look at : http://www.seanet.com/~hgg9140/comp/index.html hope it helps :) Mark > Dalbir Singh wrote: > > hai, > I am a college student and interested with DIa which run on LInux. > i would to learn more about DIa biut there is no documentation . > how can i get the dicumentation > pls mail me the link or the documenation to me. > i really nedd it and i am seroius. > pls help me men. > bye
Re: documentation
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Dalbir Singh wrote: > hai, > I am a college student and interested with DIa which run on LInux. > i would to learn more about DIa biut there is no documentation . > how can i get the dicumentation > pls mail me the link or the documenation to me. > i really nedd it and i am seroius. > pls help me men. > bye The documentation is terribly scarce. We had some a long time ago, but it disappeared, and somehow nobody has made a new set. Partly because most of it can be figured out once you know to use the right and middle mouse button menus and double-clicking for changing properties. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne
documentation
hai, I am a college student and interested with DIa which run on LInux. i would to learn more about DIa biut there is no documentation . how can i get the dicumentation pls mail me the link or the documenation to me. i really nedd it and i am seroius. pls help me men. bye
Documentation and objects
Hi, I'm new subscriber of this list and would like to say hi to you all. I have the feeling the Dia is much more useful than Xfig, when I'm doing some network documentation. Especially when I prefer to work on my Linux box instead of be forced to use a Windows tool like Visio... First of all I wonder where I can find any documentation for Dia. I also have a question of how I can modify and create own objects to the object library? Thanks! _\\|//_ (-0-0-) /---ooO-(_)-Ooo--\ | Magnus SandbergEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Network Engineer, BlueLabs AB http://www.bluelabs.se/ | | Phone: +46-8-470 2155(FAX: +46-8-470 2199)GSM: +46-708-225 805 | \/ || || ooO Ooo
Documentation?
Can anyone point me to any documentation for Dia? I'm
thinking stuff like "double click on a class icon to change the name
of the class", which I only discovered by accident.
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Re: Dia Documentation Project?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, James Henstridge wrote: > I just need Alex to update the copy on the web server for this. Done. / Alex
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
James Henstridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we are going to do new documentation for dia, it is probably best to do > it in XML compatible docbook format, as it can be converted easily to html > or postscript, and the gnome 2.0 help browser will probably support it > natively. > > There are some RPMS for tools to work with docbook available at: > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/docbook-tools/ O'Reilly publishes docbook - the definitive guide under an open publication license online: you can find it from http://www.ora.com -- Felix Natter
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
Lars Clausen wrote: > I say we put it up as soon as at all possible, ready or not. A slightly > buggy FAQ is better than no FAQ, esp. as it will answer all the trivial > 'use right mouse button' questions. All in the spirit of 'release early, > release often'. Can it go into CVS under dia-web, maybe? I'll second that suggestion. Code is information. Documentation is information. Early and often applies equally well to both. The CVS tree is the proper place for it. Thats my $0.02 Ron ./.
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Fabrice Lorrain wrote: > >> Justin Couch wrote: >> > Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could >> > contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) >> >> I've started some work on it. I will try to sent a first draft for this >> we. > > When it is ready we can put it up on the web site. I say we put it up as soon as at all possible, ready or not. A slightly buggy FAQ is better than no FAQ, esp. as it will answer all the trivial 'use right mouse button' questions. All in the spirit of 'release early, release often'. Can it go into CVS under dia-web, maybe? -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
G'day I haven't got allot of time until atleast next week, preferably easter break. I'm running 95 with the GTK+ libs to run Dia. I'm downloading Xeena from IBM alphaworks web site. Paul James Henstridge wrote: > > If we are going to do new documentation for dia, it is probably best to do > it in XML compatible docbook format, as it can be converted easily to html > or postscript, and the gnome 2.0 help browser will probably support it > natively. > > There are some RPMS for tools to work with docbook available at: > http://sourceware.cygnus.com/docbook-tools/ > > James. > > -- > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Paul Fuller wrote: > > > I'm up for some basic documentation. Do a few pages here and there as > > practice for my uni subjects [technical documentation, etc. :)] > > > > Purpose > > few sentences > > Contents > > 1..n sections > > Introduction > > few paragraphs > > Actions(how to) > > As much as possible. > > Index > > Links to words throughout the document > > > > Can you do this in an editor then port/save it as a link html document? > > > > Anyone else? easter break is coming up?.. > > > > I speak english only! > > > > Paul > > > > > > Lars Clausen wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > Justin Couch wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Just went looking for more documentation about how to use Dia (even > > > >> Dia-Hacking-Howto:) and got 404'd on the link. What is the state of > > > >> this area? > > > > Down for quite sometime now, might be nice to remove it definitely from > > > > the web pages ?? > > > > > > Yeah, it's not going to come back, it seems, so I'd rather see some new > > > stuff come in ASAP. > > > > > > >> Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could > > > >> contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) > > > > > > > > I've started some work on it. I will try to sent a first draft for this > > > > we. > > > > > > Good! Anything is better than a 404. > > > > > > -Lars > > > > > > -- > > > Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor > > > "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg > > > will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield > > > --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne > > > > -- > > Paul Fuller + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Undergraduate > > B.Sc(CompSci) > > -- > > -- Paul Fuller + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Undergraduate B.Sc(CompSci) --
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
If we are going to do new documentation for dia, it is probably best to do it in XML compatible docbook format, as it can be converted easily to html or postscript, and the gnome 2.0 help browser will probably support it natively. There are some RPMS for tools to work with docbook available at: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/docbook-tools/ James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Paul Fuller wrote: > I'm up for some basic documentation. Do a few pages here and there as > practice for my uni subjects [technical documentation, etc. :)] > > Purpose > few sentences > Contents > 1..n sections > Introduction > few paragraphs > Actions(how to) > As much as possible. > Index > Links to words throughout the document > > Can you do this in an editor then port/save it as a link html document? > > Anyone else? easter break is coming up?.. > > I speak english only! > > Paul > > > Lars Clausen wrote: > > > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Justin Couch wrote: > > >> > > >> Just went looking for more documentation about how to use Dia (even > > >> Dia-Hacking-Howto:) and got 404'd on the link. What is the state of > > >> this area? > > > Down for quite sometime now, might be nice to remove it definitely from > > > the web pages ?? > > > > Yeah, it's not going to come back, it seems, so I'd rather see some new > > stuff come in ASAP. > > > > >> Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could > > >> contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) > > > > > > I've started some work on it. I will try to sent a first draft for this > > > we. > > > > Good! Anything is better than a 404. > > > > -Lars > > > > -- > > Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor > > "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg > > will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield > > --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne > > -- > Paul Fuller + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Undergraduate > B.Sc(CompSci) > -- >
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Fabrice Lorrain wrote: > Justin Couch wrote: > > > > Just went looking for more documentation about how to use Dia (even > > Dia-Hacking-Howto:) and got 404'd on the link. What is the state of > > this area? > Down for quite sometime now, might be nice to remove it definitely from > the web pages ?? I have added a comment to the link noting that it is down. I doubt that it is comming back though. I also updated the link to the gyve and diacanvas sites, and changed the contact link in the menu to point to a page explaining about that you won't get any responses from the mailing list if you aren't subscribed. I just need Alex to update the copy on the web server for this. > > > > > Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could > > contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) > > I've started some work on it. I will try to sent a first draft for this > we. When it is ready we can put it up on the web site. > > Fab > James.
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
I'm up for some basic documentation. Do a few pages here and there as practice for my uni subjects [technical documentation, etc. :)] Purpose few sentences Contents 1..n sections Introduction few paragraphs Actions(how to) As much as possible. Index Links to words throughout the document Can you do this in an editor then port/save it as a link html document? Anyone else? easter break is coming up?.. I speak english only! Paul Lars Clausen wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Justin Couch wrote: > >> > >> Just went looking for more documentation about how to use Dia (even > >> Dia-Hacking-Howto:) and got 404'd on the link. What is the state of > >> this area? > > Down for quite sometime now, might be nice to remove it definitely from > > the web pages ?? > > Yeah, it's not going to come back, it seems, so I'd rather see some new > stuff come in ASAP. > > >> Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could > >> contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) > > > > I've started some work on it. I will try to sent a first draft for this > > we. > > Good! Anything is better than a 404. > > -Lars > > -- > Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor > "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg > will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield > --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne -- Paul Fuller + [EMAIL PROTECTED] + Undergraduate B.Sc(CompSci) --
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Justin Couch wrote: >> >> Just went looking for more documentation about how to use Dia (even >> Dia-Hacking-Howto:) and got 404'd on the link. What is the state of >> this area? > Down for quite sometime now, might be nice to remove it definitely from > the web pages ?? Yeah, it's not going to come back, it seems, so I'd rather see some new stuff come in ASAP. >> Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could >> contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) > > I've started some work on it. I will try to sent a first draft for this > we. Good! Anything is better than a 404. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) | Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I| Retainer of Sir Kegg will defend to the death your right to say it."| of Westfield --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | Chaos Berserker of Khorne
Re: Dia Documentation Project?
Justin Couch wrote: > > Just went looking for more documentation about how to use Dia (even > Dia-Hacking-Howto:) and got 404'd on the link. What is the state of > this area? Down for quite sometime now, might be nice to remove it definitely from the web pages ?? > > Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could > contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) I've started some work on it. I will try to sent a first draft for this we. Fab
Dia Documentation Project?
Just went looking for more documentation about how to use Dia (even Dia-Hacking-Howto:) and got 404'd on the link. What is the state of this area? Has someone put together a FAQ for the project? (I reckon I could contribute at least 5 questions just from 2 days of fulltime usage!) -- Justin Couch Author, Java Hacker Snr Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] rbuzz.net http://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/ Java3D FAQ http://www.j3d.org/faq/ --- "Look through the lens, and the light breaks down into many lights. Turn it or move it, and a new set of arrangements appears... is it a single light or many lights, lights that one must know how to distinguish, recognise and appreciate? Is it one light with many frames or one frame for many lights?" -Subcomandante Marcos ---
Re: critical bug / documentation
Volker Schoech wrote: > > Hi folks, > I have no idea if this email reaches anybody -- last time I sent a > message to this address, I got no response. :-( > > Anyway, here's my problem: I'm using dia 0.80 (because I like > rpm-format). I created a small diagram (less than 50 Elements > alltogether) and saved it to a file. But when I want to open that > particular file in dia again, dia consumes all the available > memory and swap space until my entire X-Windows system crashes. > Boff! I attached the file in question. No pb with dia 0.84 (debian package). I guess that it would be better to upgrade to that version (lot's of bugs smashed ;-). You can grabe a rpm version at : ftp://ftp.fl.priv.at/pub/dia/current/dia-0.84-1.i386.rpm Rem : it's a rpm for Suse 6.3. Otherwise you can install alien and convert the debian package : ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/graphics/dia_0.84-1.deb Have a look at the archives for dependencies problems (libxml and other) : http://www.mail-archive.com/dia-list@lysator.liu.se/ A+, Fab
Re: critical bug / documentation
-On [2322 17:50], Volker Schoech ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Anyway, here's my problem: I'm using dia 0.80 (because I like >rpm-format). I created a small diagram (less than 50 Elements >alltogether) and saved it to a file. But when I want to open that >particular file in dia again, dia consumes all the available >memory and swap space until my entire X-Windows system crashes. >Boff! I attached the file in question. Get 0.84 and see if that solves your problem. >Another thing worth mentioning is the fact that the dia >documentation project either moved or collapsed. All I can say is >that the link in the dia site leads to a 404. We know, working on it. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl Yet each man kills the thing he loves...
critical bug / documentation
Hi folks, I have no idea if this email reaches anybody -- last time I sent a message to this address, I got no response. :-( Anyway, here's my problem: I'm using dia 0.80 (because I like rpm-format). I created a small diagram (less than 50 Elements alltogether) and saved it to a file. But when I want to open that particular file in dia again, dia consumes all the available memory and swap space until my entire X-Windows system crashes. Boff! I attached the file in question. Another thing worth mentioning is the fact that the dia documentation project either moved or collapsed. All I can say is that the link in the dia site leads to a 404. Greetings, V. -- Volker Schoech // http://www.Tau-web.de Windows? Gesehen... gelacht... geloescht! HTML-components.dia
Re: broken links on the web and documentation
Cool. Do it in whatever format is easiest for you. If we decide to change the format later, it is not much work to add markup. Feel free to ask for answers on the list :) James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Fabrice Lorrain (home) wrote: > Ok, I will start the FAQ this weekend unless someone else wants to do > it. > > I grabed the pages of the Dia Documentation Project from google, there > is not much there. But if anyone wants them ... > > To me the documentation should be on the DIA web site. > > As of the format, I was thinking to start with a plain text FAQ but if > you want sth more elaborate, I can give a try to sgmltools/docbook or > use the gdp. > My first idea was to have the FAQ done more than the "howto do it" > stuff. > > CVS access is a bit early for now unless there is more than the FAQ to > do. > > Fab >
Re: broken links on the web and documentation
Ok, I will start the FAQ this weekend unless someone else wants to do it. I grabed the pages of the Dia Documentation Project from google, there is not much there. But if anyone wants them ... To me the documentation should be on the DIA web site. As of the format, I was thinking to start with a plain text FAQ but if you want sth more elaborate, I can give a try to sgmltools/docbook or use the gdp. My first idea was to have the FAQ done more than the "howto do it" stuff. CVS access is a bit early for now unless there is more than the FAQ to do. Fab
RE: broken links on the web and documentation
My first thought on reading all the posts about docs was: "Well, duh, why not get 'em into GDP?" Dia is, after all, supposed to be a component of GNOME Office, no? My vote is to move what little you've got into GDP and point all the users who want to work on docs to the GNOME site to sign up and work on them. William F. Helke -Original Message- From: James Henstridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: broken links on the web and documentation I don't think we have heard from the original dia documentation maintainers for a while and the old web site seems out of commission. I think it would be fairly safe to start it up again with new maintainers. A few questions that we should think about: - should the documentation be on a web site or included with dia or both? - what format should it be in? The old stuff looks like hand coded HTML. Another option is docbook format. It can be translated into a number of useful formats, and if you make it XML compliant mozilla (and probably internet explorer) can render it directly with the appropriate stylesheets. - Do we want to develop the documentation under the GNOME documentation project. They already have a bit of infrastructure set up to help write docs. More info is available from http://www.gnome.org/gdp/ - Where should the master copy be stored? The old docs were on a web site, and when the web site went down we lost the documentation. I think using CVS for this would probably be a good idea, and it gives us revision control for free. It is probably a good idea to have non dia hackers working on the documentation, as they will have a better idea of what needs to be included (I know where most buttons are in the software, as I wrote it :) If you want to keep the docs on CVS, I can organise CVS access for one or two people who want to do this. And a note for Lars -- if you want CVS access, just ask. James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Firstly, for all the idiots out there (like me), why is the documentation > not on the same server as the DIA web site? Does anyone know who the > current maintainers of the documentation project are? Lets say we can't > find them, do we need a server to host the documentation on? If so, I can > provide one. Does anyone want to be the new maintainer? If not, I will > volunteer, as user requests for documentation seem to be appearing on the > list quite often these days, and lets face it - not everyone who uses DIA > is bright enough to figure out how it works on their own. > > I think we just need a little clarity here so a decision can be made, and > we can move forward on this. > > Dennis
Re: broken links on the web and documentation
On 09 March 2000, James Henstridge said: > - should the documentation be on a web site or included with dia or > both? Both, unless it gets *really* big (say, more than 1.5 times the size of the code). At the absolute, very, minimum, the README should say, "Documentation for Dia is available at http://". If that's a URL under the Dia home page, good -- less worry about it going away. BTW, I've only been using Dia for a couple of days, and I would have got absolutely *nowhere* with it without the old docs in the Google cache. Obviously, this is *not* a good place to send new users for documentation. > - what format should it be in? The old stuff looks like hand coded > HTML. Another option is docbook format. It can be translated into a > number of useful formats, and if you make it XML compliant mozilla > (and probably internet explorer) can render it directly with the > appropriate stylesheets. Someone should resurrect the old stuff *immediately* -- who knows how long before it expires from the Google cache? Also, images in it need to be recreated -- from the text, it sounds like they're all Dia screenshots, so shouldn't be too hard. If anyone has resurrected the HTML docs from the Google cache and wants help recreating screenshots, let me know -- I'd be happy to lend a hand. It couldn't hurt to drop a line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to ask them what the heck happened to /diadocs on their server. Or, for that matter, what happened to their server? http://www.bionode.com/ returns "403 Forbidden". OK, there, that's done. Quick, lay your wagers down now: how much you wanna bet the mail bounces sky-high? Anyways, the old docs should be made available ASAP via a "Documentation" link from the Dia home page. I know nothing about the GNOME doc infrastructure, but since Dia *is* part of the GNOME project in some sense, it makes sense to use those tools. Unless they suck, of course. ;-) Absolutely positively the docs should be in CVS. And I'm in favour of apple pie and motherhood, too. Greg -- Greg Ward - software developer[EMAIL PROTECTED] Corporation for National Research Initiatives 1895 Preston White Drive voice: +1-703-620-8990 Reston, Virginia, USA 20191-5434fax: +1-703-620-0913
Re: broken links on the web and documentation
I don't think we have heard from the original dia documentation maintainers for a while and the old web site seems out of commission. I think it would be fairly safe to start it up again with new maintainers. A few questions that we should think about: - should the documentation be on a web site or included with dia or both? - what format should it be in? The old stuff looks like hand coded HTML. Another option is docbook format. It can be translated into a number of useful formats, and if you make it XML compliant mozilla (and probably internet explorer) can render it directly with the appropriate stylesheets. - Do we want to develop the documentation under the GNOME documentation project. They already have a bit of infrastructure set up to help write docs. More info is available from http://www.gnome.org/gdp/ - Where should the master copy be stored? The old docs were on a web site, and when the web site went down we lost the documentation. I think using CVS for this would probably be a good idea, and it gives us revision control for free. It is probably a good idea to have non dia hackers working on the documentation, as they will have a better idea of what needs to be included (I know where most buttons are in the software, as I wrote it :) If you want to keep the docs on CVS, I can organise CVS access for one or two people who want to do this. And a note for Lars -- if you want CVS access, just ask. James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Firstly, for all the idiots out there (like me), why is the documentation > not on the same server as the DIA web site? Does anyone know who the > current maintainers of the documentation project are? Lets say we can't > find them, do we need a server to host the documentation on? If so, I can > provide one. Does anyone want to be the new maintainer? If not, I will > volunteer, as user requests for documentation seem to be appearing on the > list quite often these days, and lets face it - not everyone who uses DIA > is bright enough to figure out how it works on their own. > > I think we just need a little clarity here so a decision can be made, and > we can move forward on this. > > Dennis
Re: broken links on the web and documentation
> Firstly, for all the idiots out there (like me), why is the documentation > not on the same server as the DIA web site? Does anyone know who the > current maintainers of the documentation project are? Lets say we can't > find them, do we need a server to host the documentation on? If so, I can > provide one. Does anyone want to be the new maintainer? If not, I will > volunteer, as user requests for documentation seem to be appearing on the > list quite often these days, and lets face it - not everyone who uses DIA > is bright enough to figure out how it works on their own. > I think we just need a little clarity here so a decision can be made, and > we can move forward on this. My $0.02 worth: A documentation project would be more than welcome. Especially a FAQ. For example i keep postponing reading _carefully_ my own spooled mails from the dia list that (AFAIR) contain quite a number of useful hints like: how to apply the properties from one object to another, ruler units/scaling problems, how to create new objects and put them into sheets,etc. And, as i am not using dia on a daily basis after i "discover" how to do something i forget 'till next time i have use it, curse why the hell didn't I wrote down how i did that "something" and I end up "rediscovering" it after greping the mail archives. In these case severe case of laziness (and i am sure there are a lot of them out there) having a FAQ/documentation project would be a bliss. Also IMHO it will help the developers from not having to ask the same questions over and over again when "Jhonny come lately" joins the party. I am sure that a couple of hours of browsing the mailing list archives will provide enough material. > Dennis Cheers, Florian.
Re: broken links on the web and documentation
Firstly, for all the idiots out there (like me), why is the documentation not on the same server as the DIA web site? Does anyone know who the current maintainers of the documentation project are? Lets say we can't find them, do we need a server to host the documentation on? If so, I can provide one. Does anyone want to be the new maintainer? If not, I will volunteer, as user requests for documentation seem to be appearing on the list quite often these days, and lets face it - not everyone who uses DIA is bright enough to figure out how it works on their own. I think we just need a little clarity here so a decision can be made, and we can move forward on this. Dennis James Henstridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: m.au>Subject: Re: broken links on the web and documentation 09-03-2000 01:58 AM Please respond to dia-list I don't know what the status of the web server where the documentation project is -- whether it is a temporary problem or a permanent one. Some of the old project is cached in google (not all of it), if someone wants to take over maintainership (assuming the previous maintainers can't be found). Just go to www.google.com and search for dia documentation project and click on the links. Note that you can't get any of the images this way. James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Fabrice Lorrain wrote: > As stated by others, the links to the "Dia Documentation Project" and to > the "UML Tutoriel" are broken (at least since saturday). > > Does someone know the state of the Documentation Project (dead, > temporary problems, other) ?? And what they have done as of > documentation ?? > > Fab >
Re: broken links on the web and documentation
I don't know what the status of the web server where the documentation project is -- whether it is a temporary problem or a permanent one. Some of the old project is cached in google (not all of it), if someone wants to take over maintainership (assuming the previous maintainers can't be found). Just go to www.google.com and search for dia documentation project and click on the links. Note that you can't get any of the images this way. James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ On Wed, 8 Mar 2000, Fabrice Lorrain wrote: > As stated by others, the links to the "Dia Documentation Project" and to > the "UML Tutoriel" are broken (at least since saturday). > > Does someone know the state of the Documentation Project (dead, > temporary problems, other) ?? And what they have done as of > documentation ?? > > Fab >
broken links on the web and documentation
As stated by others, the links to the "Dia Documentation Project" and to the "UML Tutoriel" are broken (at least since saturday). Does someone know the state of the Documentation Project (dead, temporary problems, other) ?? And what they have done as of documentation ?? Fab
Re: documentation for dia
-On [2306 11:50], T. Tam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >I'd like to volunteer documentation skills as well. As well as (mediocre) >HTML skills). (My webpage is at students.washington.edu/ttstam/ you may >check it out as a example of what I'm limited to 8-) ) Cool. For documentation I prefer to use DocBook and then convert it through teTeX/jade and dsssl to HTML or other formats... Btw, I am part of the FreeBSD documentation project committers as well as doing the BSD Programmer's Documentation Project at my site: http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai Is there anyone who is actively doing documentation for Dia at the moment? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 http://www.via-net-works.com
Re: documentation for dia
I'd like to volunteer documentation skills as well. As well as (mediocre) HTML skills). (My webpage is at students.washington.edu/ttstam/ you may check it out as a example of what I'm limited to 8-) ) Also: Is there anyway to have Dia preload only a specific set of templates, much like Visio? -=- Terence On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: > -On [2305 16:10], dave frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >Great program ! > > Indeed. > > >Though you documentation link(in the links page) is out of date and > >can't be accessed. > > Yeah unfortunately... > > >I think it would also be nice if there was an option to draw in a > >single page at a time, not having page breaks. > > A single page would definately be the default for my work, another thing > which `bothers me' is that the default sizes for the single pages are > way too big... > > I would even volunteer my documentation skills for the cause of the > project if people would help me with documenting bu telling what is > possible and all that. > > -- > Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands > BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl > Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 http://www.via-net-works.com > >
Re: documentation for dia
-On [2305 16:10], dave frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >Great program ! Indeed. >Though you documentation link(in the links page) is out of date and >can't be accessed. Yeah unfortunately... >I think it would also be nice if there was an option to draw in a >single page at a time, not having page breaks. A single page would definately be the default for my work, another thing which `bothers me' is that the default sizes for the single pages are way too big... I would even volunteer my documentation skills for the cause of the project if people would help me with documenting bu telling what is possible and all that. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Network- and systemadministrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> VIA NET.WORKS The Netherlands BSD: Technical excellence at its best http://www.bart.nl Tel: +31 - (0) 10 - 240 39 70 http://www.via-net-works.com
documentation for dia
Hi, Great program ! Though you documentation link(in the links page) is out of date and can't be accessed. I think it would also be nice if there was an option to draw in a single page at a time, not having page breaks. This may already be possible buut the documentation isn't available so Thanks Dave Frost
Dia documentation project URL not found
There is a broken link in the links page. It is to the "Dia Documentation Project" Thank You for your work.
Re: Documentation
> Hello, > I have just downloaded and installed DIA on redhat 6 on a intel box . > Thank you for making DIA available. I was wondering though... where > are the help files? For instance, how do I change font for the text > on the diagrams? Double click on the text or choose Object->Properties. There you have the font and its size. > many thanks, > Ben Cheers, Florian.
Re: Documentation
You can double click on the text button in the toolbox to bring up the defaults for that tool. This will affect any future text objects you place. Double clicking on a placed text object will bring up its properties window, from which you can set the font. As far as documentation, there was/is a dia documentation project, but their web site seems to be down at the moment. James. -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.daa.com.au/~james/ On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Ben Lawrence wrote: > Hello, > I have just downloaded and installed DIA on redhat 6 on a intel box . > Thank you for making DIA available. I was wondering though... where > are the help files? For instance, how do I change font for the text > on the diagrams? > many thanks, > Ben > -- > (Dr) Ben Lawrence > Centre for Magnetic Resonance, > University of Queensland, > St Lucia, 4072, > Brisbane, Australia. > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: +61 7 3365 6176 > Fax: +61 7 3365 3833 > >
Documentation
Hello, I have just downloaded and installed DIA on redhat 6 on a intel box . Thank you for making DIA available. I was wondering though... where are the help files? For instance, how do I change font for the text on the diagrams? many thanks, Ben -- (Dr) Ben Lawrence Centre for Magnetic Resonance, University of Queensland, St Lucia, 4072, Brisbane, Australia. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +61 7 3365 6176 Fax: +61 7 3365 3833
Broken Link to Dia Documentation
Hello, the link to the documentation in section Links is broken. If this is only temporary, never mind. Bernhard Rietzl begin:vcard n:Rietzl;Bernhard x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] org;quoted-printable:Beim Herstenhof 36=3B 72076 T=FCbingen note:Tel. 0171/6856135 x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Bernhard Rietzl end:vcard
Re: Link to the Dia Documentation Project
Hi Ronald, I was hoping to get a look at what's been done to date. If anything was ever produced, where would I find it? If not, I've got a bit to learn before being in the position to pen anything . Steve Steven N. Hirsch tie-line: 446-6557 ext: 802-769-6557 Development Engineer Methodology Integration Team ASIC Products GroupIBM Microelectronics On Tue, 18 Jan 2000, Ronald L. Chichester wrote: > Hi: > > The link to the Dia Documentation Project > (http://www.bionode.com/diadocs/index.html) is broken. If you need some > place to store the documents, please contact me and I may be able to > help. > > Best wishes, > > Ronald Chichester > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >
Link to the Dia Documentation Project
Hi: The link to the Dia Documentation Project (http://www.bionode.com/diadocs/index.html) is broken. If you need some place to store the documents, please contact me and I may be able to help. Best wishes, Ronald Chichester [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dia Documentation Project
On 06 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> I tried to follow the link to the Dia Documentation Project, but it >> seems to be dead. Is the project still in existence? I've just started >> using Dia, and I'm finding it really neat, so I was thinking of >> contributing some documentation. > > Absolutely alive. Take down the latest CVS version and look at the > neatness. Some documentation would be *wonderful*, especially of the use > of the program. What format(s) are you planning on using? D'oh! I didn't notice you were talking about the Dia *Documentation* Project. Silly me. I have no clue what became of that, but I'm sure we'll all be happy if you pick it up. -Lars -- Lars R. Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) Hårdgrim of Westfield "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." --Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Re: Dia Documentation Project
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All > > I tried to follow the link to the Dia Documentation Project, but it seems > to be dead. Is the project still in existence? I've just started using > Dia, and I'm finding it really neat, so I was thinking of contributing > some documentation. Absolutely alive. Take down the latest CVS version and look at the neatness. Some documentation would be *wonderful*, especially of the use of the program. What format(s) are you planning on using? Kindly, -Lars -- Lars R. Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause) Hårdgrim of Westfield "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." --Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Dia Documentation Project
Hi All I tried to follow the link to the Dia Documentation Project, but it seems to be dead. Is the project still in existence? I've just started using Dia, and I'm finding it really neat, so I was thinking of contributing some documentation. Peter -- Peter van Heusden : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : PGP key available Criticism has torn up the imaginary flowers from the chain not so that man shall wear the unadorned, bleak chain but so that he will shake off the chain and pluck the living flower. - Karl Marx NOTE: I do not speak for the HGMP or the MRC.
