Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[shu minari]

(B my dream in native-lang project:
(B 1.Open global langage extension,Clip art and templates site.
(B ex)
(B mozilla extension and theme site.
(B   
(B 
(B 
(B Minari-San, can you please elaborate on this point? We already have
(B http://marketing.openoffice.org/art and oootemplates,
(B What would you like to do in terms of clipart, art, etc?
(B
(Bthis page is good.
(Bbut not useful for user.
(B
(Buser need more automatic.
(B
(Bif you use mozilla firefox,
(B click "extension" - "new extension".
(Band go this page,
(B https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/?os=Windowsapplication=firefox
(B
(Band click extension and automatic install.
(B
(Bthis site have cycle:
(Bfirefox user to firefox community to creator .
(B
(Bi think,user hopes to use it more easily. 
(BAnd, the creator thinks that it wants more people to use it. 
(B
(Bthis page is good
(Bbut this page is not have cycle:
(Buser,ooo and creator .
(B
(B
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(B
(B
(B Regards,
(B 
(B Charles.
(B 
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(B "Charles-H. Schulz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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(B 
(B Hello,
(B 
(B My name is Charles-H. Schulz, I'm the lead of the Native-Lang 
(B Confederation of OpenOffice.org, of which the Japanese community is part of.
(B I would like to spend a few days on this list, in order to know you 
(B better. I will have questions for you, and please don't hesitate to ask 
(B questions for me.
(B You can ask your questions in Japanese and Minari-San or Khirano-San 
(B will translate back and forth.
(B 
(B I would like to thank you for greeting me in your community for these 
(B few days. My first question is rather simple: how are you doing? :-) 
(B How is the Japanese community doing? Well, I hope! Can I help you with 
(B anything?
(B 
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(B 
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Kohei Yoshida]

On Sunday 10 April 2005 08:32 am, shu minari wrote:
(B  my dream in native-lang project:
(B  1.Open global langage extension,Clip art and templates site.
(B  ex)
(B  mozilla extension and theme site.
(B 
(B  Minari-San, can you please elaborate on this point? We already have
(B  http://marketing.openoffice.org/art and oootemplates,
(B  What would you like to do in terms of clipart, art, etc?
(B
(BTranslation begins ---
(B
(BThat page is good, but is not very useful for the users.
(BThe users want more automation.
(B
(BIf you use Mozilla Firefox, try selecting Tools - Extensions and "Get more 
(Bextensions".  You'll be routed to the following page
(B
(Bhttps://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/?os=Windowsapplication=firefox
(B
(Band if you click the extension it will be installed automatically.
(B
(BThis site has a good circle of relationshiop between the users, community, and 
(Bthe creators (artists/developers).
(B
(BWhat the users want is ease of use, and the creators want more users to use 
(B[their creations].
(B
(BThe [OO.o art] page is good, but lacks a circle of relationship between the 
(Busers, OO.o [community], and the creators.
(B
(BOnce such circle of relationship is established, it will add more value to the 
(Bpage, it will attract more creators, and it will benefit the users.
(BTo realize this goal, I think we need more internationalization and 
(Bcentralization of "power" [resources].  The "power" of that page would be 
(Bhalved if we could not achieve a sufficient level of 
(B"internationalization" [international collaboration].
(B
(BTranslation ends ---
(B
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Charles-H.Schulz]

Hello,

On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 02:46 +0900, Hirano Kazunari wrote:
 Kohei Yoshida wrote:
 
  I have the feeling that Sun engineers are also frustrated by this just 
  as much
  as we do.
 
 I had the same feeling :)
 Now we, community and Sun engineers, can collaborate.
 Actually they are the part of the community.

yes, but don't forget Collabnet is actually paid for the hosting and the
platform they provide...

Regards,

Charles.
 Cheers,
 khirano
 
 
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Charles-H.Schulz]

Nakata-San,

it's good to see you here! How's the family doing?

I sincerely hope we can do something with Collabnet. BTW: I didn't
Collabnet was the author of Subversion, but this is indeed very
interesting.

Regards,
Charles.


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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
(B
(BNakata-San,
(B
(Bit's good to see you here! How's the family doing?
(B
(BI sincerely hope we can do something with Collabnet. BTW: I didn't
(BCollabnet was the author of Subversion, but this is indeed very
(Binteresting.
(B  
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Kohei Yoshida]

Quoting Charles-H.Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hello,
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 02:46 +0900, Hirano Kazunari wrote:
Kohei Yoshida wrote:
 I have the feeling that Sun engineers are also frustrated by this just
 as much
 as we do.
I had the same feeling :)
Now we, community and Sun engineers, can collaborate.
Actually they are the part of the community.
yes, but don't forget Collabnet is actually paid for the hosting and the
platform they provide...
In other words, pressure must come from Sun - the company that pays 
Collab.Net.

Kohei
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
Hello Ono-San,

Please forgive me, your name reminds me of the world famous
beagle. I apologize.
Yes, my name reminds a lot of people about that famous artist... ;-)
 


But when I use OpenOffice.org, I can't help admiring it.
Can we use this sentence on our marketing banners and logos? :-)
Sure!
haha! thanks!
 
I will go public when I finish my program.
Maybe at first, I'll ask Japanese OpenOffice.org project
to link my site.
I thank your offer very much.
Okay. I still think though that such a software deserves a translation
in English, then to other languages if possible.
 


Regards,
Charles.
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
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(BCollab.Net.
(B
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(BKohei-San understands politics very well... :-)
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[NAKATA Maho]

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 I'm afraid that the Japanese project (and other native-lang projects
 as well) will continue translating their own bug reports in english...
 The problem here is that the community, that means, you, I, others,
 can't do much about that. 

It seems, currenlty not so many Japanese specific issues are raised,
just talking/complaining only at MLs. Even they don't seem to know how to
report. This is expected: Bazaar model can gather a developer who
works in a very short period of time and OOo is too big. Filling out
IssueTracker appropreately is still a problem for me :)

apparently we are suffering from bottle neck.

Development speed, method doesn't scale linearly; it does mean
if # of participants doubled, speed doesn't double, this is a big
problem for OOo. As a small example, CVS doesn't scale.
http://ooo.ximian.com/ooo-build.html

Sun Microsystems pays Collabnet, editor and maintainer of SourceCast
for the OpenOffice.org web site, mailing lists, IssueZilla, etc... 
And if Collabnet doesn't decide to localize issuezilla, we can't do
much more than wait... :-(

I talked with person from 10-art ni about Japanese handling issues, etc,
at OSC2005. Newer version of SourceCast can handle Japanese better.
He was very interested in what is the problem for Japanese people. I was
told a very good news from Collab.net but
I'm not sure I can write in public.

All the best,
-- NAKATA, Maho ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Hi Maho,
CVS doesn't scale.
http://ooo.ximian.com/ooo-build.html
 

Oh, I didn't know this.
Thanks for the link.
Added me to CC:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=24771
:)
Cheers,
khirano
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Kohei Yoshida]

Quoting NAKATA Maho [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Development speed, method doesn't scale linearly; it does mean
if # of participants doubled, speed doesn't double, this is a big
problem for OOo. As a small example, CVS doesn't scale.
http://ooo.ximian.com/ooo-build.html
I have the feeling that Sun engineers are also frustrated by this just as 
much
as we do.  They don't say that out loud, but seeing comments from Martin H in
the issue Hirano-san posted, and one of his previous blog entires give me such
impression.
But when we ask ourselves what's the alternative?, the first thing 
that comes
to my mind is Subversion.  And the interesting thing is, it is no one other
than Collab.Net who develops Subversion.  Does that mean we will see us
switching to Subversion sometime in the future?  I don't know.  But that's a
possibility.

Just some random speculation...
Kohei
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Kohei Yoshida wrote:
I have the feeling that Sun engineers are also frustrated by this just 
as much
as we do.
I had the same feeling :)
Now we, community and Sun engineers, can collaborate.
Actually they are the part of the community.
Cheers,
khirano
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[mAkotoOno]

Hello Schulz-San,
(B
(B
(BCharles-H.Schulz wrote:
(B (Charles is blushing and very sad to have made such a mistake. He
(B thought "Ono" was a female name, like in "Yoko Ono". Apologies)
(B
(BDon't worry about it.
(BPlease forgive me, your name reminds me of the world famous
(Bbeagle. I apologize.
(BEntre nous, "Ono" is my/her family name.
(B(Yoko Ono is really good artist, I think. I like her art.)
(B
(B
(BBut when I use OpenOffice.org, I can't help admiring it.
(B 
(B Can we use this sentence on our marketing banners and logos? :-)
(B
(BSure!
(B
(B
(BI can write Java a little.
(BOOo will become good frontend of SQL client, I thought.
(BFinally I found, I might be able to help something or somebody.
(B
(BPlease visit my web site.
(BI put up some screenshots.
(Bhttp://seiza.dip.jp/machine/fio/screenshot.html
(B 
(B I think that what you're doing is very interesting and should be
(B advertised much more in the wider community. I think some people would
(B like to volunteer to this. What do you think? Should we "go public" and
(B ask for participation? Eventually a link allowing to download the client
(B should be put at several places on openoffice.org (Japanese project,
(B http://dba.openoffice.org and elsewhere)
(B
(BThank you. But there are some problems.
(B1. My coding has not finished yet.(Now it's beta version.)
(B2. This program is written for Japanese.
(B  (It's not difficult to make it  multilingual technically but...
(B   The code and documents are in Japanese.
(B   It's too difficult to translate them for me.)
(B3. I'm not good at English.
(B
(BI will "go public" when I finish my program.
(BMaybe at first, I'll ask Japanese OpenOffice.org project
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(BI thank your offer very much.
(B
(BRegards,
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Makoto-San (sorry, are you a woman?)
(B
(BmAkotoOno wrote:
(B
(BBonsoir, Good evening, Konbanwa(in Japanese),
(BSchulz-San,
(B
(BMy name is Makoto Ono, I'm just a user of OpenOffice.org.
(BTo tell the truth, I have no question to you now because I'm satisfied
(Bwith OOo and great works of Native-Lang Project members.
(B
(BI just felt that I should tell my thanks to lead of the NLC.
(B  
(B
(B
(BAlthough I'm deeply moved by your thanks, I have played but a very small
(Bpart in our success. You see, I don't code, I sometimes do some
(Bmarketing-related stuff but most of the time I do politics :-) . I am a
(Bbit like "Koffee Annan", the head of the UN... ;-)
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(B
(B  
(B
(Bhow are you doing? :-)
(B
(B
(BI'm writing add-on program for OOo Calc.
(B  
(B
(B
(BThat is interesting. What is it exactly?
(B
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(B
(BHow is the Japanese community doing?
(B
(B
(BWe enjoy to grow OOo. We are charmed with OOo deeply.
(B  
(B
(B
(BThank you very much.
(B
(BBest Regards,
(B
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(B
(BRegards.
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

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(BIt is rather unconfortable to be in this position but you know, it's
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[mAkotoOno]

Hello Schulz-San,
(B
(B Hello Makoto-San (sorry, are you a woman?)
(B
(BIt's a unique question.
(B20 years ago, I was a boy.
(B
(B
(B Although I'm deeply moved by your thanks, I have played but a very small
(B part in our success. You see, I don't code, I sometimes do some
(B marketing-related stuff but most of the time I do politics :-) . I am a
(B bit like "Koffee Annan", the head of the UN... ;-)
(B
(BI see.
(BBut when I use OpenOffice.org, I can't help admiring it.
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Hirano Kazunari]

Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
Hello Makoto-San,

mAkotoOno wrote:
20 years ago, I was a boy.
(Charles is blushing and very sad to have made such a mistake. He
thought Ono was a female name, like in Yoko Ono. Apologies)

  



But when I use OpenOffice.org, I can't help admiring it.
Can we use this sentence on our marketing banners and logos? :-)

 :-)
I'm writing a SQL client program.
.
ah, I see.

I think that what you're doing is very interesting and should be
advertised much more in the wider community. 


I think some people would
like to volunteer to this. 

What do you think? Should we go public and
ask for participation? 

Eventually a link allowing to download the client
should be put at several places on openoffice.org (Japanese project,
http://dba.openoffice.org and elsewhere)
 
dba.oo.o

Regards,
Charles.
.
translated by khirano
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[Kohei Yoshida]

On Tuesday 05 April 2005 12:27 am, Yutaka Kachi wrote:
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Re: [ja-discuss] introduction

[mAkotoOno]

Bonsoir, Good evening, Konbanwa(in Japanese),
(BSchulz-San,
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(BTo tell the truth, I have no question to you now because I'm satisfied
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(B how are you doing? :-)
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