[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
I think the Lifedrive is a great PDA, but some users have complained of stability problems. The TX seems to have been better received, but lacks the 4GB hard drive and is only slightly cheaper than the Lifedrive now. Best to read the forums at Brighthand and decide for yourself... http://forum.brighthand.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12 Adam -- Adam_F Adam_F's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4617 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem: Can't open file for:
This happens to me on two different cases: 1. One of the cases I could not isolate the types of files that got that error. But somehow, the solution was to run Slim.exe from a DOS command line, as opposed to start from the Windows Start Menu. 2. More recently I had problems with Tags with accented characters (e.g. German characters). I replaced the accented character and it worlked. Note that I am running MusicMagic Mixer on the PC side. -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22252 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's the story on accented file names and tag?
tom permutt Wrote: I wonder if you might have downloaded different versions of Perl to the two computers. I found the ActiveState website a little confusing that way. I'm glad you got what you needed. Anyway, this has been fun. I've learned some things about how to write this robustly as production code (thanks, radish) if I were ever going to do such a thing. Of course, all I really meant was to share my discovery that renaming a lot of files needn't be as daunting as it had seemed both to you and to me. In fact, what I originally did was write a program just to find them all and print them out, so I could rename them by hand. In the middle of that I got bored enough to realize I didn't care what they were named and to look up how to script the renaming. That is entirely possible. I was utterly confused by he ActiveState web site. You script is very cool, I wish I could do something like that. is there a dummies guide online where I can at least attempt to learn how to do simple scripts? -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22689 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Where is the log file?
kdf Wrote: Quoting James M mikelis8 (AT) charter (DOT) net: I just tried doing a fresh install of the latest beta 6.2.2 or 6.5? Where is the log file I can look at to find out what is going wrong? that would depend on the OS. Windows: look in the event viewer Linux: /tmp/slimserver.log OSX: Library/somewhere If nothing shows up, run command-line. That would be c:\program files\slimserver\server\slim.exe for windows, slimserver.pl for the others. -k For completeness, as it may help others, on my Mac, the log is in ~/Library/Logs. I installed SlimServer for one user. If it is installed for all users, the log may be in /Library/Logs. It can be read using the Console. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22755 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Imerge M1000 - need info - Slimserver compatiable?
Hi all, I can buy an imerge m1000 Sound server at a very good price, but damned if the seller can tell me anything about it, and there is very little info on the web. Has anyone owned one of these? I am actually looking at it more as a music server for the squeezebox, it can do it's own ripping to mp3 and wav files too. But i can not find out if it supports lossless codecs. I would like to know if people think the Squeezebox will see it in the network. And if anyone knows if you can put slimserver on to it? I read somewhere that it is linux based. Here are a couple of links ; http://tinyurl.com/g7xxl http://tinyurl.com/n9eyt -- dlite dlite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22758 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Qnap TS-101 Slimserver
Not sure if I am missing something obvious, but here goes: Bought my Qnap TS-101 (from Scan) advertised as Slimserver ready. But after installing and initiating the drive I see no mention of Slimserver anywhere - nor in the documentation or the Qnap website. Am I supposed to install Slimserver myself onto the unit? If so, does anyone have instructions to do so. I look forward to your comments, Tony -- TonyCharman TonyCharman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4886 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22760 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Media Center version of Softsqueeze?
If you are already using MCE this probably won't help, but someone posted that there is a Meedio slimserver plugin: http://tinyurl.com/fn5yw http://www.meedio.com/index.html -- NWP NWP's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3730 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22735 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Freeze the Display
Is it my imagination, or did I read somewhere about a button sequence on the remote that will allow you to freeze it for the purpose of photographing it? -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22761 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] WEP problems
I have switched my network from WPA to WEP so that I can use a bridge as in my new home the signals don't travel too well. All 3 of my Windows XP SP2 PCs can connect to the internet OK, but my 2 squeezeboxes are showing problems - they end up with odd IP addresses (not the usual 192.168.11.x etc) and cannot find the slimserver on the right PC. Removing all encryption (yikes) solves the problem. Before I switched to WPA everything was fine. I am using Windows XP zero wireless config set to shared and 64-bit WEP. I am using a 5-digit code as the key. It has occurred to me that I might be entering the WEP in the squeezebox incorrectly due to confusion between hex and decimal. If my WEP key is 1 in the Windows XP setup screen, how do I enter this into the setup screen of the squeezebox - is 0101010101 the right approach? Any help much appreciated. Dan -- dlucas dlucas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22763 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Slimserver
Yes. I think you are in un-charted territory - see the main Qnap thread, as I posted this very question about using a bare bones Qnap from Scan, and the chap from Progressive responded saying that it has to be vendor installed - of course he is no doubt protecting his own interests, but I suspect it is field installable with a little know how. Do let us know how you get on - I would be keen to buy a bare Qnap and move the 2nd disk from my PC to it. -- mortod mortod's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22760 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Freeze the Display
Is it my imagination, or did I read somewhere about a button sequence on
the remote that will allow you to freeze it for the purpose of
photographing it?
grep -ir photo Slim/*
will bring up Slim/Player/Player.pm line 1569. But I doubt that comment is
still valid. It needs some change (make $line1 = ... $parts-{line1} =
...).
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[slim] Incorrect display of tags
OK, so I've just started tagging files, and may have done so incorrectly. In particular I seem to have both ID3 v1.1 and ID3 v2.3 tags on the same file. I have one mp3 file, artist Alan Lomax, album Alan Lomax Chrsitmas, title Christmas, and I have other files with artist Terry Pratchett, album Small Gods. When I do Search for Artists on SoftSqueeze, using AL as search item, I get Alan Lomax. Moving to the right on this displays Alan Lomax (on first line), Small Gods (on second line), and moving right again gives Alan Lomax/Small Gods (on first line), Christmas (on second line). I then play the item, which is Christmas, as it should be. But why the mixup about the relevant album? -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22764 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Incorrect display of tags
But why the mixup about the relevant album? If you only did a rescan for new or changed songs, try a full scan instead. Or shut down slimserver, remove slimserversql.db and restart. This will recreate the database from scratch. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP problems
On 4/6/06, dlucas wrote: I am using Windows XP zero wireless config set to shared and 64-bit WEP. I am using a 5-digit code as the key. From what I know, and from my own WEP setup, 64-bit keys should be 10 characters in length. If I enter 1234512345 in Windows, that exact same string goes into the SB. Cheers Geoff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Imerge M1000 - need info - Slimserver compatiable?
I think that box was designed with something different in mind. It's designed to be a music player on its own, with its own soundcard and everything, and it doesn't need (and I think can't use) a Squeezebox. A Squeezebox works off Ethernet or wireless networking. This device does not appear to have an Ethernet port - in fact, the first link you provided indicates it includes a modem port (!) It does have a USB port but then you'd have to keep it permanently connected to a networked PC and keep the networked PC on at all times, which defeats the purpose of the whole thing. It can apparently rip to uncompressed formats, but you lose the bit-perfect error correction you can get with EAC. Finally, in order to load SlimServer on it, you'd have to find hacked 3rd party firmware that will allow loading of other applications. You'd be much better off to get a NAS device that can support SlimServer. The only one possibly available in Australia that can support SlimServer easily is the Infrant ReadyNAS. It's expensive, but probably the same price as that pricey Imerge box. You can load SlimServer on others, like Kurobox and Linksys NSLU2, but those require some Linux knowledge and hacking skills. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22758 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Incorrect display of tags
Watch out - ID3 v1.1 tags are limited to 30 characters. Also by having two tag types in the same file you may have different or obsolete data in one set of the tags. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22764 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: More SB2 Problems!!!
Oli, FYI: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22765 rtitmuss Wrote: I am please to say that firmware 37 is now available in the latest nightly builds for slimserver 6.2.2 and 6.5. This version fixes a problem with DHCP when using wireless WPA encryption where a strange (169.254...) address was allocated. It also includes fixes for WPA and WPA2 connections on several routers. Please note that some WPA compatibility issues remain. A small number of people are reporting stuttering when using firmware 28. This is also not fixed in this release, but it is now at the top of my list! Regards, Richard -- abdomen abdomen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22740 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: One piece of artwork missing
Finally got this one figured out. Flopperman was right. This album was listed under both Eva Cassidy and Cassidy, Eva. When I eliminated the second folder, everything worked fine. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22593 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's the story on accented file names and tag?
I think you'll find all the documentation you could want at perldoc.perl.org. I also found the book Programming Perl both useful and enjoyable, but it is quite dense. Learning Perl is also good and more discursive. I'm a Perl novice myself though an experienced programmer. I took it up just a couple of months ago to solve another Slim-related problem ( http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22079 ). -- tom permutt tom permutt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1893 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22689 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Plugin support on nokia770 skin
I was also wondering about Music Magic support - I love the 770 and the skin, but use Music Magic a lot. Ben, is Music Magic support feasible in the near future? -- neilcoburn neilcoburn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=653 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22380 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Encryption
I've never used it because I haven't wanted to screw up a good, working situation. I know I should probably try it. I use a Belkin pre-N router, which supports several types of encryption. I'm not too worried about my neighbors as I don't live in an apartment building, but of course you never know. Which method should I try. Is it hard? Do I just make up my own encryption code? Is it difficult to enter into SB3? -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Plugin support on nokia770 skin
all I can tell you is that's on my list. I'm focused on ajax support right now, so I can't tell you when I'll get to it. I don't use Music Magic, so will likely be calling for help testing when I get to it. http://mcstayinskool.tadalist.com/lists/public/170297 -- bklaas bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22380 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 Skin
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19369 Question: Do you have a 770? - Got it - Want it - Need it - Forget it dth122 Wrote: I've been using the 770 extensively as my exclusive SB3 interface - thanks Ben for the hard work. It really transforms the experience of the SB3. It seems that the Now Playing screen doesn't update automatically. If the screen turns off and the song changes, when I tap the screen for it to turn back on, the old song is still displayed even after waiting over a minute or through another song change. This song will stay there until I change screens to something else then back to Now Playing. Is this correct, or should the Now Playing screen update automatically? - Dave Dave, I've run into this as well. I think what's happening is that when the 770 goes to power save mode (screen dims or turns off), an additional step it takes is to break the network connection. It's a pity that it does this, but the 770 consumes a lot more power when WiFi is active. When the network connection breaks, it also stops the browser from attempting to refresh. Sorry that's not a solution (which I don't have), but I believe that's what's happening. My best solution is to tap the screen to bring it back to life, then top on the musical note icon to do a hard refresh of the screen. If anyone has a better workaround for this behavior, please post. cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19369 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
mherger Wrote: or at http://www.herger.net/SlimRemote/ ;-) Michael, any chance EWE will ever support Palm's OS? Your project looks great, but I can't use it. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Results with SMCWBR14g router
BTW this problem is resolved 100% with the latest SB firmware, firmware 37. Works with no encryption and WPA-TKIP. I didn't test WEP. It even works with g nitro enabled! Thanks Richard! -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20047 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
My wife has T|X, but I haven't tried using it to control the server yet. The screen is great, and battery life seems to be more than adequate. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] A big thank-you for a fantastic pluggin
I have recently installed the GrabPlayList pluggin by Eric Koldinger ( http://www.koldware.com/SlimStuff/ ) - it is fantatsic. The WAF (Wife Approval Factor) has shot through the roof - it was quite high to start with. Having 2 x Slimp3, 1 x SB2 and 2 SoftSqueezes running through the house makes the GrabPlaylist a very useful addition to the server. Our use of the system was already quite high but has moved on even further. I know the Slimp3s are old - but they still look good and perform very well. In fact the SB2 is used least of all because it is in the lounge and we spend most of our time in the office or kitchen. Slim Devices - could this one make it into the core build? Eric - wherever you are, thanks. Gavin MAN FINANCIAL LIMITED E-MAIL DISCLAIMER This electronic mail message was sent by Man Financial Limited (MFL) of Sugar Quay, Lower Thames Street, London, EC3R 6DU, a Company registered in England no. 1600658. MFL is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority in the UK and is a member of the Man Group. MFL appear on the UK Financial Services Authority register under no. 106052. MFL is a member of the London Stock Exchange. This electronic mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not that person, you are not authorised to view, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or any part of it without our consent; and you are requested to return this message to the sender immediately and delete all copies from your system. The value of investments and foreign exchange can go up as well as down and involve the risk of loss. You may lose more than the amount originally invested and, in respect of products traded on margin, you may have to pay more later. Opinions, conclusions and other information expressed in this message are not given or endorsed by MFL unless otherwise indicated by an authorised representative. Due to the electronic nature of e-mails, there is a risk that the information contained in this message has been modified. Consequently MFL can accept no responsibility or liability as to the completeness or accuracy of the information. Whilst efforts are made to safeguard messages and attachments, MFL cannot guarantee that messages or attachments are virus free, do not contain malicious code or are compatible with your electronic systems and does not accept liability in respect of viruses, malicious code or any related problems that you may experience. MFL's e-mail system is for business purposes only. All e-mail may be reviewed by authorised personnel, and may be provided to regulatory authorities or others with a legal right to access such information. If you would like to find out more information about Man Financial Limited please click on the following hyperlink to our web site. Web site : http://www.manfinancial.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver behind reverse proxy
Hi, Since i only want port 80 open to the outside world (and easy of configuration) i wanted to reverse proxy the slimserver inside my apache. I've adjusted the apache: snip ProxyRequests Off ProxyPass /slim http://localhost:9000/ ProxyHTMLURLMap http://localhost:9000/ /slim Location /slim ProxyPassReverse http://localhost:9000/ SetOutputFilter proxy-html ProxyHTMLURLMap / /slim/ ProxyHTMLURLMap /slim/ /slim/ /Location - snip This should work, however (ofcourse) it doesn't. Sometimes i can see a website.. with other options on, i cant. So far i managed to get the website but no pictures are normal. Also i cant click on the server configuration which then panics. What am i doing wrong or is the slimserver html not reverse proxable? Thanks in advance, Erik -- riemers riemers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22768 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver behind reverse proxy
Fixed it allready :) Some wrong / and not /'es (or in other words, i didn't use the search function in the messageboard) Location /slimserver/ RequestHeader set Referer http://localhost:9000/ ProxyPass http://localhost:9000/ ProxyPassReverse http://localhost:9000/ ProxyHTMLURLMap http://localhost:9000 /slimserver SetOutputFilter proxy-html ProxyHTMLURLMap / /slimserver/ ProxyHTMLURLMap /slimserver /slimserver /Location Works like a charm (from other post) -- riemers riemers's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22768 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
Michael, any chance EWE will ever support Palm's OS? No idea. It has been asked before in the Ewe forums and answers were always pretty short: Ewe is not supported on Palm. Strangely enough Ewe has a skin called Palm... -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Naxos Music Library
It is possible to make an album selection and replay it on a PC which could be your server and redirect this to Slimserver and your Squeezebox. I am redirecting Naxos Radio like this at the moment. You would need to have soemthing like an IceCast Server runing on the PC together with a source client which will redirect a feed from your soundcard into IceCast. You then need to feed the URL of your IceCast feed into the Internet radio tune selection of your Squeezebox and possible save it as a playlist for later. So how do you feed your sound card feed back into IceCast. Well if your PC is Unix then you use a product called Ices2, if it is Windows then the easiest way is to use Winamp with the latest Oddcast plugin. This will allow you to direct the Wav/Mp3 feed from your soundcast mixer into your IceCast Server and onto your Squeezebox. There are other products but I am assuming you want to do this for free! The good news is you can try this all out now with SoftSqueeze before you buy to make sure it suits your needs. The Naxos Music Library will allow you about a 15 minute trial period and this period is renewed each time you reload your browser so it is possible to try this out on a recording with multiple tracks although the trial version will only give you a 64KB rate. It should be possible to write a plugin for SlimServer to do the authenticating and even browse the library but this is not very practical since browsing an 8700 CD library could take you weeks to find the item you need. You will soon find out that the only way to use Naxos Library is to use the search facility to find your CD and then it becomes easy but how you write a Plugin to interface to the search facility is beyond me at the moment. Give it a try and have fun. -- MrStan MrStan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1771 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22728 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Encryption
The only method you should try is WPA-TKIP. WEP is easily crackable in seconds and will deter only accidental connections. And WPA is as easy to use as WEP, it requires no extra effort. Yes, make up your own passphrase, although there are several random passphrase generators out there on the Internet. Don't use anything that would be in a dictionary - the only WPA cracking scheme enters words from a dictionary as passphrases. So make up stuff, misspell, capitalize in the middle of words, add numbers and punctuation. The more characters you enter, the better the security. The limit is 63 characters. Unfortunately entering it into the SB is tedious - it's entered one character at a time using the number buttons like on a cell phone. Also if you get one character wrong, and this is very easy to do, it won't connect without telling you why. Be on the lookout for leading and trailing spaces as well. But the good news is you only have to do this once. The entry survives a power-cycling and is only wiped out on a reset. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22767 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
Really, I'm curious to know. My computer is a new and quite powerful XP desktop (3.3 ghz I think) -- and Slimserver scanning is the slowest thing I've seen it do. I mean, yes I have 1300+ tracks but it's not like mapping the human genone! Is this being worked on for future software updates? Just curious. -- abr88 abr88's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wpa-aes
Firmware 37 now supports WPA2 perfectly with my Linksys WRT54G router. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19793 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 not connecting with WPA and AES
This new firmware has not only made WPA2 work perfectly with my Linksys WRT54G, but it also made my old SMC2804WBRP-G router work with the SB2/3. So ironically, although I can go back to the SMC, I may stick with the Linksys as the SMC will probably never support WPA2. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=16900 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
In case you haven't seen my fairly excited posts yet, this fixed two pretty fundamental issues for me: 1. My old SMC2804WBRP-G wireless router now works perfectly with the SB2/3. No encryption and WPA-TKIP. The router does not support WPA2 and probably never will. I didn't try WEP but since WPA works fine, why bother... 2. My newer Linksys WRT54G running DD-WRT firmware 2.3 works perfectly in WPA2/AES mode with the SB. So ironically, I'll stick with the Linksys even though the SMC is working fine! It's Richard's 4th day at Slim Devices. Already a great accomplishment! A round of virtual applause is in order, I think. Just think what he'll accomplish there in a year... I'm hopeful that this resolves other people's problems as well. But all the same, I officially dub firmware 37 The Black Magic Firmware (tm). ;-) -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22774 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
On 4/6/06, abr88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really, I'm curious to know.My computer is a new and quite powerful XPdesktop (3.3 ghz I think) -- and Slimserver scanning is the slowestthing I've seen it do.I mean, yes I have 1300+ tracks but it's notlike mapping the human genone!Is this being worked on for futuresoftware updates? Just curious. In my experience, speed has improved dramatically on the 6.5 trunk. Work is definitely being done.Ben ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
Well, how slow is slow? Does it finish? I have 2259 tracks and have just recently started adding artwork. A clear library and rescan everything rescan takes me about 90 seconds. A look for new and changed music rescan takes me about 20 seconds. This is with a P4 2.8 GHz processor running Windows XP SP2. Yes, it is the slowest thing SlimServer does, but reading 1000+ artist, title and genre tags is not going to be fast. Other programs like Mp3tag and foobar2000 choke on this task as well. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WEP problems
dlucas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: showing problems - they end up with odd IP addresses (not the usual 192.168.11.x etc) and cannot find the slimserver on the right PC. That sound like something that might be fixed by last night's release of firmware 37. greg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Error Starting Server on WinXP with 4/2 beta
I just tried doing a fresh install of the latest beta (SlimServer_v2006-04-02.exe) and the server won 't start. Here is the WinXP application event log error. It makes no sense: - The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( Application ) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this description; see Help and Support for details. The following information is part of the event: G:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache: No such file or directory at /PerlApp/Slim/Utils/Misc.pm line 334 -- Line 334 is: return Cwd::abs_path(canonpath($path)); ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error Starting Server on WinXP with 4/2 beta
On 6-Apr-06, at 9:13 AM, James M wrote: G:\Program Files\SlimServer\server\Cache create the new folder for above and that should get you going for now. if it already exists, check permissions (mapped drives, for eg aren't open to services) -kdf -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
What format are your tracks in - if MP3, what bitrate and VBR / CBR ? Is your music on the same box as slimserver is running on, or is it a network share ? What other plugins do you use (Trackstat, MusicMagic, Moodlogic) ? All of these factors may affect the time it takes to scan a particular library. A look for new scan still needs to look at every track in the library as I understand it. However, it glosses over the old ones and does a proper scan of the news ones (hence why look for new is faster than full rescan. 5 minutes for an update rescan of a 2259 library is pretty normal IMHO. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Custom Cases for Squeezebox3?
Robin Bowes Wrote: doundounba wrote:[color=blue] I have a Platinum Wireless SB2 which I would be happy to trade for a black wireless SB3. Let me know if you're interested. Maybe I would be - if only I had an SB3! ;) Thanks for the offer though. -- doundounba doundounba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4558 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22618 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Incorrect display of tags
Not sure where the problem was, but removing the v1 tags and deleting the database seems to have solved it. Thanks. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22764 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Replaygain question???
JJZolx: I came to that conclusion too after someone else reminded me. The SB2 upsamples to 24 bits right?? So how does the volume scale (0-40) correlate to DB's? Say if the SB2 volume is set at 30 - how many bits of resolution is being removed from the 24bit? Would I be around 20 bits?? Thanks! Tony -- mantis007 mantis007's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=491 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22744 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
Siduhe Wrote: What format are your tracks in - if MP3, what bitrate and VBR / CBR ? Is your music on the same box as slimserver is running on, or is it a network share ? What other plugins do you use (Trackstat, MusicMagic, Moodlogic) ? All of these factors may affect the time it takes to scan a particular library. A look for new scan still needs to look at every track in the library as I understand it. However, it glosses over the old ones and does a proper scan of the news ones (hence why look for new is faster than full rescan. 5 minutes for an update rescan of a 2259 library is pretty normal IMHO. I think I'm between 25-35 minutes for 62k songs which are a mix of MP3/FLAC and WAV. The SS is running on the same server and the disk controller is RAID 5 and CPU is and AMD64. I have lots of CPU cycles, and I would expect the RAID to help the read time. How are other peoples full rescan times? -- sfraser sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
Kyle Wrote: I use a Sony Clie, which has a Palm OS, although Sony doesn't make it anymore. The screen is pretty large -- not much smaller than the Nokia. It works fine with the built-in browser and the handheld interface. Kyle, which Clie do you have? I have an NX70 and was nevery able to get a NIC to work with it. Thanks -- rcrh rcrh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4374 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wifi routerer address appears in SS
Anyone have any idea why my wifi router (Linksys WRT54G with sveasoft Alchemy code) LAn address appears as my SB2 IP address within Slimserver? -- sfraser sfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2026 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22778 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
10-12 minutes for a full rescan of 6,500+ songs (mix of everything from 128mp3 to FLAC, but mostly 320mp3) on a dedicated PC running XP Lite and only Slimserver, MusicIP and related music programs(1gb RAM). Use MusicMagic enabled, but integrating MM and SS libraries (it seems a lot quicker if I just use MM and don't enter a path for the Music Library in Server Settings). -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] sox/lame
Hi I've just set up SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - trunk, on a Debian Sarge machine. I'm trying to enable Ogg Vorbis MP3 sox/lame support but I'm just getting this error [sox] -t ogg $FILE$ -t raw -r 44100 -c 2 -w -s - | [lame] --resample 44100 --silent -q $QUALITY$ --abr $BITRATE$ -r - - Can any one help? Thank in advance. James -- jamesho jamesho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=847 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22780 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
sfraser Wrote: I think I'm between 25-35 minutes for 62k songs which are a mix of MP3/FLAC and WAV. The SS is running on the same server and the disk controller is RAID 5 and CPU is and AMD64. I have lots of CPU cycles, and I would expect the RAID to help the read time. How are other peoples full rescan times? OK, well this got me curious, and those figures were off the top of my head, so I timed it: Look for new and changed music: 1:06 Clear library and rescan everything: 2:39 (so I was a little optimistic!) But still, based on what it's doing, scanning 2259 items looking for artist, album, title, genre, ReplayGain data, artwork, etc. I don't think this is bad at all. Again, just try Mp3tag or foobar2000 and those take a while to load all this data too. You can see what's going on if you look at your processor load. A Look for new must scan the library looking for recently modified files. It loads my processor up 50-60%. A Clear library scan first conducts a very disk-intensive operation, obviously looking at every file. This loads the processor up 40-50%. Then after a time the disk access ends and the processor loads up 50-60% like in a Look for new scan. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
abr88 Wrote: Yes it finishes, but it takes about 5 minutes (and that's for look for new, not a complete rescan!)! I wonder why that might be if yours takes only 90 seconds for a full Five minutes! And you're complaining?! I'd kill for five minutes! I'm runnning Windows 2K on an ancient Athlon XP and my 5000 tracks takes about a half hour! Actually, I just click the button to rescan, and then go drink beer. And of course this process beats the crap out of your hard drive. I think those folks that do it daily are nuts. They're just asking for metal filings. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Replaygain question???
mantis007 Wrote: JJZolx: I came to that conclusion too after someone else reminded me. The SB2 upsamples to 24 bits right?? So how does the volume scale (0-40) correlate to DB's? Say if the SB2 volume is set at 30 - how many bits of resolution is being removed from the 24bit? Would I be around 20 bits?? Thanks! Tony Here is some light reading on the subject of the SB2/3 volume math. :) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=75489postcount=10 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=87078postcount=62 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2557 -- abdomen abdomen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22744 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Qnap TS-101 Slimserver
Give it a go, it will be interesting to see how long it takes you :) We charge £25 to install SlimServer on a TS-101 that hasn't been purchased from us. Payment covers time and effort. Paul Progressive Consumer Electronics Ltd -- ultra238a ultra238a's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=626 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22760 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
I've got a TH-55 with built-in wifi. It's got a great display. A used one would make a good SB remote. Too bad Sony quit making them. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can a SqueezeBox control volume of another SB
I would like to know if one SqueezeBox3 can control the volume on another SqueezeBox3. I have a central amplifier in my basement connected to multiple sets of speakers throughout the house. Each set of speakers has an in-wall volume control, but the volume control is limited in its range. I have two issues I would like to solve: (A) I have to go to the basement to change or select music. (B) To completely control volume I need to adjust the room volumes AND either the amplifiers volume or the source to the amplifier. Often the room volume control alone is adequate, but not always. I think I can solve (A) with two SqueezeBox3 devices: one upstairs working with the infrared remote control; and the second attached to the Amplifier (in the basement). The first SqueezeBox3 would only control the second one. Usually I would not have anything attached to the audio outputs of the first SqueezeBox3; it would act as my User Interface. QUESTION: Can I solve issue (B) with this configuration? I think it comes down to this: can one SqueezeBox3 control the volume output of another SqueezeBox3? I dont need to actually control the Amplifiers volume if I can control the SqueezeBox3 output volume remotely from the first SqueezeBox3. Has anyone tried this and been successful? Please let me know. Also, if Ive made any wrong assumptions Id appreciate knowing that too. (Im very technical so I dont think Id have any setup issues if someone told me what needed to be done. I should be able to figure the details.) -- LarryD LarryD's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22781 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
mherger Wrote: No idea. It has been asked before in the Ewe forums and answers were always pretty short: Ewe is not supported on Palm. If they do, I hope you'll post an announcement here. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can a SqueezeBox control volume of another SB
Why couldn't you just control the SB3 in the basement through a computer on your network? -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22781 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
On 4/6/06, jonheal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: abr88 Wrote: Yes it finishes, but it takes about 5 minutes (and that's for look for new, not a complete rescan!)! I wonder why that might be if yours takes only 90 seconds for a fullFive minutes! And you're complaining?! I'd kill for five minutes! I'mrunnning Windows 2K on an ancient Athlon XP and my 5000 tracks takes about a half hour!Actually, I just click the button to rescan, and then go drink beer.And of course this process beats the crap out of your hard drive. Ithink those folks that do it daily are nuts. They're just asking for metal filings.All of these times are mostly meaningless unless they also include the server version (and date for non-final releases like 6.2.2 and 6.5).Ben ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can a SqueezeBox control volume of another SB
I think the 'ShadowPlay' (http://www.gwendesign.com/slimserver/dev_software.htm#shadowplay) plugin can do this. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22781 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can a SqueezeBox control volume of another SB
Quoting LarryD [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would like to know if one SqueezeBox3 can control the volume on another SqueezeBox3. Look into ShadowPlay: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?PluginRemoteControls Or, you can simply sync the players and set the prefs to sync volume as well. see player settings. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Snap Server 2200
Has anyone installed slimserver on a Snap Server 2200 NAS device (now owned by Adaptec)? Nick ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Plugin support on nokia770 skin
Quoting bklaas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: all I can tell you is that's on my list. I'm focused on ajax support right now, so I can't tell you when I'll get to it. I don't use Music Magic, so will likely be calling for help testing when I get to it. http://mcstayinskool.tadalist.com/lists/public/170297 it is fairly simple to add the mixer support. Just come up with a couple graphics for mlmix.gif and mmmix.gif, and the rest is cut and paste of 3 or 4 lines of code. bring it up on the dev list when you get to it. This reminds me that I need to make a more generic template for those links anyway. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can a SqueezeBox control volume of another SB
On 4/6/06, LarryD wrote: I think I can solve (A) with two SqueezeBox3 devices: one upstairs working with the infrared remote control; and the second attached to the Amplifier (in the basement). The first SqueezeBox3 would only control the second one. Usually I would not have anything attached to the audio outputs of the first SqueezeBox3; it would act as my User Interface. You could save yourself one SqueezeBox if you used a PC in it's place, in the basement (running SoftSqueeze). Since you need a PC anyway, it's not like you're buying an extra piece of equipment. On the other hand, you would then have to go to the basement to use the PC :) That said, the basement seems to be an uncommonly popular place to put the music server, and you may already have it there if it's connected to your amp directly. Cheers Geoff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Effect of standby/hibernate on Slim?
Hi, Does anyone know where I can look to see how standby/hibernate effect Slim? I've dug around and I can't seem to find any doco on it. If Slim is streaming music, will this prevent a PC from going into standby? And if not, will Slim stop playing if the computer does go into standby? I've seen some references to wake-on LAN, but that is for waking up a PC so that Slim can play? Thanks! -- tomj tomj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2243 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22783 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: A big thank-you for a fantastic pluggin
Thank you, we aim to please Eric -- kolding kolding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22769 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
Have you tried to set priority to background processes? -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] WAV Tags Slowing Slimserver
I tried to diagnose my slow SlimServer problem in a separate thread. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22351. Based on one of the comments, I think it is possible that the problem is caused by WAV tags. I ripped most of my collection with Musicmatch jukebox as uncompressed WAVs. Although I understand that you cannot tag WAV files, I did tag them with artwork, artist, album, track title, etc. SlimServer recognizes these tags and the artwork. When a song is played, the album cover appears in the now playing information. I also don't think SlimServer is reading the directory structure for tag information because in some cases the artist or track information is different from the directory structure The Beatles appears as Beatles and some of the song titles are different. Does anyone have any experience with this or know how I can strip those tags without re-ripping my collection? -- frankL frankL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22784 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slow Response From SlimServer
Note: I continued this thread as http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=100224#post100224 because I think the problem has something to do with tagging. -- frankL frankL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22351 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
Siduhe Wrote: What format are your tracks in - if MP3, what bitrate and VBR / CBR ? - FLAC Is your music on the same box as slimserver is running on, or is it a network share ? - Same box What other plugins do you use (Trackstat, MusicMagic, Moodlogic) ? - None All of these factors may affect the time it takes to scan a particular library. A look for new scan still needs to look at every track in the library as I understand it. However, it glosses over the old ones and does a proper scan of the new ones (hence why look for new is faster than full rescan). 5 minutes for an update rescan of a 2259 library is pretty normal IMHO. - I'm wondering something along these lines (from FAQ) might help - haven't tried it yet... (Question was: I'm using the SlimServer as a Windows service but the performance isn't good. The music sometimes is choppy and the menus aren't very responsive, especially when it's scanning my music library. What can I do?) Answer: By default, Windows doesn't give high priority to services and the SlimServer software sometimes needs a fair amount of CPU. To work around this, open your Control Panels, and then open the System control panel. On the Advanced tab, find the Performance section and click on Settings. On the Advanced tab, choose Backround Services under Processor Scheduling. Click OK and the SlimServer software will now get more CPU cycles and perform better. -- abr88 abr88's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
Siduhe Wrote: What format are your tracks in - if MP3, what bitrate and VBR / CBR ? - FLAC Is your music on the same box as slimserver is running on, or is it a network share ? - Same box What other plugins do you use (Trackstat, MusicMagic, Moodlogic) ? - None All of these factors may affect the time it takes to scan a particular library. A look for new scan still needs to look at every track in the library as I understand it. However, it glosses over the old ones and does a proper scan of the new ones (hence why look for new is faster than full rescan). 5 minutes for an update rescan of a 2259 library is pretty normal IMHO. - I'm wondering something along these lines (from FAQ) might help - haven't tried it yet... (Question was: I'm using the SlimServer as a Windows service but the performance isn't good. The music sometimes is choppy and the menus aren't very responsive, especially when it's scanning my music library. What can I do?) Answer: By default, Windows doesn't give high priority to services and the SlimServer software sometimes needs a fair amount of CPU. To work around this, open your Control Panels, and then open the System control panel. On the Advanced tab, find the Performance section and click on Settings. On the Advanced tab, choose Backround Services under Processor Scheduling. Click OK and the SlimServer software will now get more CPU cycles and perform better. -- abr88 abr88's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Results with SMCWBR14g router
Thanks, Mark, I'll update tonight and try it out (if the boss lets me have a free minute - she's having a girls-weekend, so guess who has a whack of chores to do!) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20047 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WAV Tags Slowing Slimserver
dBpowerAMP Music Converter can convert WAV files to FLAC. It's also designed to carry over the tags, but since WAV tags are non-standard, I'm not sure if it will do it. Why are you using WAV instead of FLAC or another lossless format that supports tags? -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22784 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WAV Tags Slowing Slimserver
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: dBpowerAMP Music Converter can convert WAV files to FLAC. It's also designed to carry over the tags, but since WAV tags are non-standard, I'm not sure if it will do it. Do you think that will solve the problem? Why are you using WAV instead of FLAC or another lossless format that supports tags? I guess because I haven't run out of room on my hard drive yet. -- frankL frankL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22784 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Why is scanning so slo-o-o-o-w?
One big problem people can have is that DMA is not turned on. This will dramatically slow down any disk intensive tasks. Win2K has a bug where it sometimes will turn this off for you. Not sure about XP. I had this happen to me after I installed a SATA drive into a Win2K machine, and none of the audio would play well. Found out what it was, enabled DMA, and no more skipping. That said, the rescan function will never be very quick. Every song in your library needs to be accessed by your hard drive. If your disk is fragmented, each fragment of the tag data needs to be accessed. Random Seek Times for hard drives are roughly 10ms, and that's just to position the read head above the data to be read. Reading the data takes time too. The seek overhead for every 100 songs works out to be about a second. So we will never see a 5000 song library rescanned in less than a minute. If you get real bad rescan times, I'd recommend defragging your library with something like Norton's defrag utility (SpeedDisk?) HTH Tom -- b1gcountry b1gcountry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22772 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WAV Tags Slowing Slimserver
If you decide to rip to flac, you can use a tagging program to use the file names to generate the tags, or simply replace all the tag data with blanks, so even if it doesn't work, there's easy ways to get there. There might be some program out there that deals with wav headers, but I'm not aware of any. The .wav standard can be found online, and isn't too hard to understand, so I'm sure someone has written something. T -- b1gcountry b1gcountry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22784 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Results with SMCWBR14g router
nicketynick Wrote: Thanks, Mark, I'll update tonight and try it out (if the boss lets me have a free minute - she's having a girls-weekend, so guess who has a whack of chores to do!) Ah - whoops! I got my models of router confused. It works fine with the SMC2804WBRP-G router now. I don't have the SMCWBR14G, but it's worth a try. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20047 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remove Silence at Beginning/End of Track
Currently I'm using Winamp in my home media system, but I'm thinking about switching over to a Slim setup. Winamp, when using the DirectSound output, will remove silence at the beginning/end of tracks. A user can select the db cutoff point for this to kick-in. Is there any way to do this in Slimserver/SoftSqueeze/SB? If it matters, my collection is ripped to WMAL. TIA. - Jeff -- JSonnabend JSonnabend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22786 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Effect of standby/hibernate on Slim?
Tom, Try reading this thread for preventing Slimserver from going into standby while streaming (did you search the forums?? always first port of call). http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22625 It contains a plugin to prevent PC going into standby while streaming. The plugin has been incorporated into the 6.2.2 and 6.5 builds (so you can just download the latest nightly build to fix this if it is a problem for you). Of course no content can be streamed to your squeezebox if the computer running slimserver is in standby or suspend.. Your squeezebox does have a buffer, so it can continue to play while the slimserver pc is off (or in standby) until it has emptied its internal buffer. -- bigjules bigjules's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4805 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22783 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
Richard is without a doubt, amazing! Those of us in support are VERY impressed! Cheers, -- Ross L Ross Levine Slim Devices Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.510.743.1152 ext. 3 Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22774 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
Noticed something else with this firmware. It's a minor thing, but a nice touch nonetheless. The Now Playing buffer capacity mode shows not only the percentage, but a bar as well. This makes it very easy to see from across the room. It might have been introduced in one of the intermediate firmware releases - I think I went from firmware 33 or 34. Nice touch. BTW it's been playing for almost two hours now without a glitch. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22774 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
The SB3 finally works with my 2wire router! I am noticing a bit of unusual behavior (lots of interface lag, it didn't pay attention to track numbers sometimes... these both worked fine in firmware 29 when I had it hooked up via ethernet to test it out) but, well, at least it's making sound. -- MMackie MMackie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22774 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Effect of standby/hibernate on Slim?
Thank you, sir! -- tomj tomj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2243 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22783 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
I have been using the T|X for about 6 months as my all-purpose PDA and also use it sometimes as a remote for my SBs. It works fine using the Handheld skin and displays artwork, etc in a fairly snappy way. My only criticism would be the way it handles reconnects to the wireless network. In order to save power it will disconnect from wifi after a period (perhaps 1 minute) of inactivity. This is fine and as it should be. However when you then pick it up and tap on something in the slimserver skin it attempts to reconnect to the wireless but always fails. The work around is to remember to manually initiate a new connection before using the slimserver and although easy to do this is a bit of pain as I often forget and have to sit through a timeout before I can intervene again. My memory is actually that when I first had it this behaviour was different and it would successfully reconnect automatically but I can't be sure. In any case it won't do it now. Myself I am waiting to get my hands on a Nokia 770 to use as a remote. davep -- davep davep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB2 = dead
I bought my sbabout 3-4 months back and it's been great. I had a power outage a couple of days back, and the sb's been pretty much dead since then (same symptoms as descibed in previous posts). I did have the sb connected to a very good surge protector and none of my other, more expensive components on the surge protector were affected by this. I spoke to tech. support, who was very helpful. Made me try a few idiot steps, but was very polite. Finally gave up and suggested that I send in an RMA request. Hopefully, I'll get my new sb soon...I've gotten so used to this wonderful device, it sucks not to have it. One thing the tech. support guy had me try that I hadn't already: Hold down the + button (Add button) and see if that does anything. -- karthik karthik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4893 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22463 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Network Activity
Is there a server setting that would slow down the massive amount of network activity between my four squeezeboxes and the server. The activity seems to be there whether the squeezeboxes are on or off. It is really bogging down the rest of my network -- paulrusnak paulrusnak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22789 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Network Activity
There's normally not a lot of traffic to/from a SB when it's not playing music. How are you determining that there is a lot of SB/slimserver traffic? Can you be more specific about what you're seeing? -- rudholm rudholm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22789 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Brushed Aliminium Panel coming loose.
I have to say that my Squeezebox 3 has let me rediscover albums that I'd completely forgotten I owned. And I never have to go hunting through my CDs. All in all, one of the best purchases I've made in the last year.. Thanks Slim Devices. But the brushed aluminium panel on the device keeps coming loose. It pulls away from the unit in the top right, and bottom left (kind of looks a bit warped).. how is it attached? looks like its glued on to me.. Any advice on reattaching it properly? I dont really want to send it back, cause I use it all day every day. Also.. the dark display cover (plastic bitty at the top) had a few scratches at the bottom (near the brushed aluminium bitty) when I purchased it.. Not that I care about things like that much.. just thought I'd mention it. -- bigjules bigjules's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4805 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22790 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
The 4/6/06 build of SlimServer 6.2.2 with firmware v37 also enabled me to use my SB3 with WPA2-AES security on my Linksys WRT54Gv5 router with the Linksys v1.00.6 firmware. Sweet. -- tejas gordo tejas gordo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22774 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Brushed Aliminium Panel coming loose.
The problem with the faceplate is a known fabrication problem that has been corrected. If you contact Slim Devices support they'll mail you a replacement faceplate that has slightly more clearance around the edges and thus won't come off. -- rudholm rudholm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2980 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22790 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
Does this mean maybe we're finally going to see a 6.2.2 official release??! Here's hoping! -- bossanova808 bossanova808's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22774 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
Well sorry to put a wet blanket on all the revelry... It has done NOTHING to fix my SB2 player from only playing one song and then 'playing' it over and over and over without sound output. BUT a downgrade to firware version 28 (with the 04062006 nightly) DID fix the problem, so it is still not all Beer and Skittles! Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Brushed Aliminium Panel coming loose.
Thanks. Will do. -- bigjules bigjules's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4805 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22790 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
On 4/6/06, depeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well sorry to put a wet blanket on all the revelry...It has done NOTHING to fix my SB2 player from only playing one song and then'playing' it over and over and over without sound output.BUT a downgrade to firware version 28 (withthe 04062006 nightly) DID fix the problem, so it is still not all Beer and Skittles!Was the firmware supposed to fix that issue? I didn't see it in the release notes.Ben ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Stuttering at the biginning of songs, and delay in display updating
I'm wondering if these are known bugs, and what information I need to look at to determine where the problem is, some help with troubleshooting this. I love the whole Slim system, but it's not quite working well enough for me to be completely satisfied. The specific problem that most disrupts my enjoyment of the music is that especially in Random Songs mode, at the beginning of many but not all songs, I'll hear a few seconds, then there will be a few seconds of silence then the rest of the song will play fine. Also I note that the display has a delay in updating to the title of the current track of as long as 15 seconds, this on all songs. Some specifics about my sytem: Server is a Mac G4 400 MHz processor with 704 MB of RAM (Whether this 6 year old computer is too under-powered to Slimserve music and do anything else at the same time is one of my concerns) Mac OS 10.3.9 Slimserver v. 6.2.1 Sqeezebox 3, Firmware v. 28 Server has a wired connection to the wireless access point, and the Squeezebox is connecting wirelessly to the access point about 4 meters away. I live next to a large apartment building, so the WiFi environment is pretty congested, but none of them on the same WiFi channel as me. No encryption currently, though that may change soon. I play mostly flac but some mp3, shn, and ape files. My libray currently has about 19,000 songs, in various folders on various external drives with symbolic links in the music folder pointing to them. I don't really understand anything about interpreting the debugging data, or what particular data I should be looking at. I guess I'm mainly wondering if these are known bugs that have maybe been fixed in the beta versions, or how to determine whether the problem is in my CPU or my network or what. Thanks for any help. Folks on this forum have been really helpful in the past. -- bephillips The chaos on this planet is due to the music that musicians are playing that they are forced to play by some who just think of money and don't realize that music is a spiritual language, and it represents the people of Earth. When musicians are compelled to play anything, it goes straight to the throne of the Creator of the universe, and that is how He sees you: according to your music... It's what goes to the Creator as your personal ambassador - and your personal nemesis. -Sun Ra bephillips's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22792 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37
That is part of the point... Tech support was ZERO help. They issued an RMA for this issue, and all I really had to do was use old code. They offered no assistance, I was the one trying new nightlies, I was the one digging forr an answer, I was the one who GUESSED that it might be firmware They have not even decided that my issue is a problem! I do Tech Support for a living and that is just a ploy to put off the fixing of a problem, not a fix. Andrew - Original Message - From: Ben Sandee To: Slim Devices Discussion Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [slim] Black Magic Firmware: firmware 37 On 4/6/06, depeche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well sorry to put a wet blanket on all the revelry...It has done NOTHING to fix my SB2 player from only playing one song and then'playing' it over and over and over without sound output.BUT a downgrade to firware version 28 (withthe 04062006 nightly) DID fix the problem, so it is still not all Beer and Skittles! Was the firmware supposed to fix that issue? I didn't see it in the release notes.Ben ___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] i think my display is broken or defective
picture is worth 1000 words it starts up ok but then changes to what is pictured here - what is my next move oh great support gurus? +---+ |Filename: funny_display.JPG| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1174| +---+ -- jackaninny jackaninny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=273 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22793 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Consistent Crash with MIP 1.6b3 and 6.2.2 nightly
Attached is my latest log... I've left it unedited, so it's a bit long. I used the debug version of Trackstat to generate it. Hope it's useful. At a glance, it does seem like something wierd is occuring around unicode characters... The crash was triggered in Fishbone, by clicking on the play entire playlist arrow at the top of the left hand playlist area. +---+ |Filename: log2.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1176| +---+ -- Yannzola Yannzola's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=874 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22677 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's the story on accented file names and tag?
tom permutt Wrote: I think you'll find all the documentation you could want at perldoc.perl.org. I also found the book Programming Perl both useful and enjoyable, but it is quite dense. Learning Perl is also good and more discursive. I'm a Perl novice myself though an experienced programmer. I took it up just a couple of months ago to solve another Slim-related problem ( http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22079 ). Saw the other solution. You are a clever dude! I havent really programmed since my first job after college. So I think there will be a really steep learning curve for me. -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22689 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Palm or Pocket PC
duhaas Wrote: What would you guys suggest for a PDA/REMOTE for the Squeezbox 2? Looking @ the Nokia 770, looks nice, but would rather have a more dual purpose. Been looking @ the Palm T|X, great looking screen, just wanted to know if anyone had experience using that as their remote? Any suggestions on a model of pocket pc that works well? I have owned several Palm OS PDAs over the years. I have always preferred their simplicity and performance over the Pocket PC. That said, I basically abandoned the Palm once they announced Windows Mobile running on their hardware. Palm may claim that Palm OS isn't dead (though Palm Source was sold off), it is just a matter of time before Microsoft paints Palm OS into a phone OS. IMHO. For that reason, I would go with a Windows Mobile 5 device. Which one? Not sure. I have an i-Mate JasJar which is overkill (and the clamshell design is probably not convenient). -- Robert W. Anderson Robert W. Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4791 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22742 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
