Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums
Doesn't the removed albums and tracks appear again when you use Music Folder browsing ? I thought the SBS scanner rescanned automatically when browsing a folder with the browse Music Folder mechanism. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74288 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
The iPad is not for everyone. It is not a be all, do all machine. It won't cook you your breakfast. That being said, it is basically a larger screen iPod Touch. The large screen benefits for visual features: reading email, tweets, blogs, webpages, books, magazines and newspapers; watching videos and movies. You have access to youtube and can buy or rent movies and television shows. As for multitasking, it can access your own music files for listening to songs on your iTunes library while you use any other program (called apps). I know it can do this because I can do this now on my iPod Touch. There are thousands of apps in many different categories. You need to browse the iTunes app store to see if any fit your own interests. E.g. if you like games, they should be more enjoyable on a bigger screen. It can't fit in your pocket. So you are going to have to think twice before taking it out of your house. It can't do what a real laptop or desktop can do, namely access flash based websites (although I understand that within a very short time, a new web standard known as html5 will replace flash and be accessible by the iphone, ipad and touch). It can't run photoshop or other sophisticated programs. It probably can't do file and print sharing on the local network. It's not clear if it can even connect to a networked printer. But, it does fit a niche for many. On the couch or a lounge chair or in bed, if your focus is reading or watching or listening rather than typing, then the iPad will be much more comfortable than a laptop. Less bulky, lighter, easier to move around with and easier to see than a small scren Touch. I look forward to it. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
havoc1;59 Wrote:
> As for no multi-tasking - I nearly fell off my chair.
No multitasking, no webcam, and I can only run App Store titles, even
if I buy the $829 version? How much money do you have to give Apple
before you get a computer you can actually control? I think a lot of us
hoped for a nice glass-screen multi-touch MacOS tablet that could also
maybe run iPhone apps, but this is just a supersized locked-down iPhone
that can't make phone calls or take pictures. Bleh.
I miss the old Apple [Computer] Inc. that built general purpose
computers catered to the creative set. If any electronic device was
tailored to the consumer-gullet notion ('\"a consumer was no more than
'a gullet whose only purpose in life is to gulp products and crap
cash.'\"' (http://cluetrain.com/book/markets.html)), it's this
silly-looking new thing.
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Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
Apple has produced a lot of innovative products over the years. That momentum, and their understanding of how to create buzz, have made Ipods and iphones huge hits that buried the competition. Ipad may be more likely to be a yawner. The reports I've seen so far suggest many view it as under-spec'ed and over-priced. Time will tell. -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
audiomuze;511140 Wrote: > Can anyone point me to decent pictures of the device that show its > actual size? The dimensions are posted here: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ > > > Height: > 9.56 inches (242.8 mm) > Width: > 7.47 inches (189.7 mm) > Depth: > 0.5 inch (13.4 mm) > Weight: > 1.5 pounds (.68 kg) Wi-Fi model; > 1.6 pounds (.73 kg) Wi-Fi + 3G model > > Seems about the size of a hardcover book, but thinner, of course. > On the surface of it I'd think it'd be a great device to have lying > around in the lounge/ TV room for general surfing, email and, of course, > controlling Squeezeboxen with iPeng. That's exactly what I use my iTouch for, AND it fits in my pocket! :) -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio | 1 Touch (beta) | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Squeezebox Server 7.4 | iPod Touch w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
MeSue;511133 Wrote: > I agree... it's too honking big!Can anyone point me to decent pictures of the > device that show its actual size? On the surface of it I'd think it'd be a great device to have lying around in the lounge/ TV room for general surfing, email and, of course, controlling Squeezeboxen. Pity about the lack of multitasking though, I'd have to jailbreak it for it to be truly useful. Perhaps, as always, it'd be better to wait for the 2nd generation. Another thing that's really beginning to irk me is the way Apple completely ignores the Linux community - it's bad enough that iTunes is the crappy front-end for the all things i, but being forced to keep a copy of Windows around just to be able to load apps, OS updates etc. is getting a little bloody tired. -- audiomuze IF YOU WANT CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR CUSTOMSCAN AND CUSTOMBROWSE PLUGINS, VOTE FOR 'BUG #6023 - NEW PLUGIN HOOKS TO IMPLEMENT SCANNING FUNCTIONS' (HTTPS://BUGS.SLIMDEVICES.COM/SHOW_BUG.CGI?ID=6023) AND LET PLUGIN DEVELOPERS DO WHAT LOGITECH WON'T. '*last.fm*' (http://www.last.fm/user/audiomuze) audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums
i appreciate that some of you are trying to be helpful.
let me clarify the requirements again:
- the filesystem must remain unmodified. no symlinks. no changing whats
there. it is a correct set of collections of collections. it is
correctly tagged.
- users want to be able to use the "browse music folder" and see
everything, as would be natural per point 1.
- some number of items are duplicates. these should not show up in a
browse or search, but should continue to show up in a directory browse.
- lets leave it to me to decide what should be hidden or not. i've
already done that as shown below. i do understand the logic applied to
determine album alignment, and i do not consider this a difficult
problem. in fact, i believe application of the following logic will be
generally useful for some people, and not harmful for others. its
alright if you think that my requirements are a corner case. i find this
hard to believe, but lets not belabor that now.
- once items are tagged to be hidden, they should not show up in any
search or browse views, except when viewing the real directory
structure.
i've written the following code to do what i want, albeit in a very
messy and expensive way:
Code:
#!/usr/bin/python
# presentation layer album dedupe
import sys
import MySQLdb
from collections import defaultdict
try:
conn = MySQLdb.connect (host = "127.0.0.1",
user = "root",
passwd = "",
port = 9092,
db = "slimserver")
except MySQLdb.Error, e:
print "Error %d: %s" % (e.args[0], e.args[1])
sys.exit (1)
cursor = conn.cursor ()
#AND (c1.year = c2.year OR c1.year = 0 OR c2.year = 0) \
cursor.execute ("select C2.id, C2.titlesort, C2.contributor, C2.year,
SUM(tracks.filesize) \
FROM albums as C1, albums as C2 \
JOIN tracks WHERE C1.titlesort = C2.titlesort AND C1.contributor =
C2.contributor \
AND (c1.year = c2.year OR c2.year = 0) \
AND C1.id != C2.id AND tracks.album = c2.id \
group by tracks.album order by titlesort")
d = defaultdict(list)
hidelist = []
while (1):
row = cursor.fetchone ()
if row == None:
break
d[row[1]].append((row[4],row[0]))
for k, v in d.items():
if len(v) > 1:
print "%s:" % k
largest = 0
selected = 0
# first pass gets largest value
for l, i in v:
if largest < l:
largest = l
# next pass determines rows to hide
for l, i in v:
if l != largest:
if not l:
print "hide: %d" % (i);
else:
print "hide: %d %d" % (l, i)
hidelist.append(i)
else:
if selected:
# duplicate size, arbitrary selection
print "hide: %d %d" % (l, i)
hidelist.append(i)
else:
selected+=1
print "keep: %d %d" % (l, i)
print "hiding %d duplicate albums" % (len(hidelist))
for i in hidelist:
updatestr = "UPDATE albums SET invisible = 1 WHERE id = " + str(i)
cursor.execute (updatestr)
# hacky, but works for now: just blow away records of bad dupes in the db
# everything above this line is fine. everything below this line should be
# replaced by a server side SELECT exception rather than this expensive
# set of deletes
cursor.execute ("delete tracks.* from tracks LEFT JOIN albums on tracks.album
= albums.id \
where albums.invisible = 1");
cursor.execute ("delete from albums where albums.invisible = 1");
cursor.close ()
conn.commit ()
conn.close ()
As I have an intermediate step wherein I flag each album as invisible
by adding a column to the table for albums i don't want, and could
easily add that column to tracks as well, it seems much more reasonable
to just select those out when doing searches/browses. That way I'm not
in a race with the scanner, and don't have to run expensive deletes.
I tried to add this logic in Slim::Control::Queries.pm in the following
places, but don't see it reflected in the SQL queries being passed to
the server, so I apparently have misplaced my strategy somewhat:
in albumsQuery:
$where->{'me.invisible'} = {'!=' => '1'};
in artistsQuery:
$where->{'me.invisible'} = {'!=' => '1'};
$where_va->{'me.invisible'} = {'!=' => '1'};
in titlesQuery:
$where->{'album.invisible'} = {'!=' => '1'};
push @{$attr->{'join'}}, 'album';
So, without any more of the telling me why I don't know what I actually
want, can someone kindly help me figure out where I should place
modifications with this intent so that my searches and browses run
against the db select out rows flagged as invisible?
Thanks.
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[slim] Squeezebox Duet will play for 3 seconds then buffer
Hi All, I am trying to diagnose an issue that I am having. Squeezebox duet will play for a few seconds then cut out, saying its buffering. It will then say it times out and cannot connect to the library any more. The firewall is off on my computer. My computer is about 2 years old. There internet on occasion goes in and out (I have to refresh pages to load them every once in a while). I also live in an apartment in NYC with several wifi networks. I have tried hardwiring my laptop to my router and just connecting the receiver wirelessly. This does not seem to help. I thought maybe I need a new laptop, maybe getting a dedicated netbook for music. Any suggestions? -- mikeemman mikeemman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33888 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
pippin;511061 Wrote: > > But honestly: _I_ find it too big. But that may be just me. I agree... it's too honking big! I was resistant to the iTouch for a long time, but now that I have one, I love it. It's the perfect size. (As I wrote in my blog today, I don't buy clothes without pockets anymore because I have to have my iPod on me at all times.) Everyone is going on about what a great eBook reader the iPad will be. Huh? Even for that it's too big, IMO. Time will tell... -- MeSue SUE 1 Duet | 2 Booms | 1 Radio | 1 Touch (beta) | 1 SB2 HP MediaSmart EX470 | Squeezebox Server 7.4 | iPod Touch w/ iPeng Find me on 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue) | 'Twitter' (http://twitter.com/suechastain) MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox V2 name in SB Server
Thats a good point. I haven't checked that. Thanks. -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74571 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
I'll start paying attention to these competitors when a) the price comes down below $1k for a multi-room setup, and b) they come up with software that approaches the genius of Erland's suite of plugins...the closest thing to the perfection I'm seeking in combining the dynamic nature of a commercial jukebox-style playlist and the ability to customize that playlist through a simple rating system (including the ability to automatically rate tracks). So far I haven't seen it. -- GeeJay GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
I find web ui performance fine too, although I do use Chrome for it. The iPad is a rather bizarre looking thing, like they thought they'd just supersize an iPhone. Not too sure if that's the right way forward. As for no multi-tasking - I nearly fell off my chair. Agree with Pipin that not multitasking has helped the iPhone succeed (although i have a jailbroken one and use the Backgrounder app regularly), but if I buy an iPad I would be reaching for it instead of the laptop as I sit on the couch and if it can't multitask it is much less useful than it could be. -- havoc1 havoc1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
iPhone;511001 Wrote: > WHY would it cost to much? And are you telling us that you use "every" > available feature on your current Squeezeboxes? I understand you use the > main one, Audio. Would you not use Video if it were available? > > There are two devices for under $250 that do just what SB does for > audio that do the same for video as well as they both also play audio. > The 'cheaper one' > (http://www.hdtvsupply.com/1080p-high-definition-media-server.html) > appears not to support FLAC. The only real drawback I see is that they > use an external video display and that is probably because they were > designed for Video so it is assumed that one will hook it up to a video > display. > > It would be extremely easy to build/include the same video > engine/decoder in a device just slightly larger then a Touch so that it > would have a display for when using just audio IE a Touch that does both > Audio and Video. So if this was designed the cost would not be the cost > of both devices added together due to the shared nature of the device > doing basically the same thing. Would I pay $379 for a Touch that did > streamed 1080P HDMI and 24/96 FLAC? I would. No, I don't use every feature (although I use most). But there is a line, in my mind anyway. It would just feel pointless having a video capable player in all the room which don't even have a TV. So know, for the most part I would never use a video feature. But I agree, a touch with HDMI and 1080p output would be nice. But I would not want it to be a compromise. But I would still want audio only devices for each room. Maybe I am looking at this from the wrong angle. I was wrong before about a touch screen on the player and USB until I got a touch! -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox touch, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox radio *car:* ipod classic 80gb *portable:* iphone 3gs 32gb (+ipeng) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
aubuti;511091 Wrote: > Note that after getting one Olive 4/4HD as your server ($1500 - 2000), > for the other rooms you could use the Olive 2 players, which are "only" > $600 each. Yeah, that's steep. I sort of like the Olive 2 thingy, but I'd never buy the Olive 4/4hd. I want to get rid of boxes, not adding yet another "hi fi" sized box. The Olive solution reminds me of the Beosound 5/Beomaster 5-setup: It's a step back to separates (and in the case of the BS5 you don't even get wireless, and there is no remote feedback on screen when using the remote), utterly defeating the benefits of digital audio (well, in my book). -- Danione Danione's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
toby10;511084 Wrote: > But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my home? Note that after getting one Olive 4/4HD as your server ($1500 - 2000), for the other rooms you could use the Olive 2 players, which are "only" $600 each. Yeah, that's steep. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
toby10;511084 Wrote: > I like three olives with my martini's. > But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my > home? > > I'll stick to SB players and put the difference into my IRA, thank you. > :) +1 And a better return on your investment also! And you must have a huge Martini Glass if you can get three Olives in one! ;=} -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
pippin;511068 Wrote: > Maybe if you have some weird Hi-Speed server. On my machines the Web UI > is simply way too slow. My server setup is somewhat good (Linux, 2.2Ghz dual-core mobile cpu, 3GB RAM, however it is connected via wireless), but that's only half the story: good Javascript performance is also essential, and by all accounts the CPU in the iPad is pretty remarkable. I've got an 8 year old laptop that I sometimes use to access SBS, and it's eminently usable. It's a Pentium III-M with 512MB RAM, and I've got it loaded with Knoppix and Chrome. If I had it loaded with a fully patched XP and tried to load the Web UI in IE, I know I would have the same complaints as you. -- cooppw02 cooppw02's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
erland;511070 Wrote: > Agreed, half the size would be better for a Squeezebox remote. > Still, I'll be standing in line to buy iPeng (or something similar) for > iPad. No standing in line necessary, their all Apps that are downloaded from iTunes! Now the iPad itself is a different story, if one doesn't order it online, then I would think for the first few weeks one will be standing in line to get one. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
I watched/listened to the whole launch event and iPeng was the first thing that went through my mind when they started talking about third-party apps. When iPeng finally gets the update to allow it to act as a player, I can see putting the iPad into a dock that's connected to some speakers, and having a nice big iPeng display that lets everyone see what's playing. I wonder what the best size will be for artwork? As I've been going through my CDs to rip into FLAC, I've been getting the cover art into 500x500. I hope that's big enough because it's hard finding it bigger than that on the internet. -- DoomWolf DoomWolf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I like three olives with my martini's. But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my home? I'll stick to SB players and put the difference into my IRA, thank you. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
I always want a 10" device for hi-res cover browsing. A UI similar to AEON on XBMC would make a fantastic touch screen remote for squeezebox.(http://www.aeonproject.com/) I wish iPeng could someday support backdrop with horizontal text based menu bar. +---+ |Filename: aeon.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9151| +---+ -- lymzy lymzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
pippin;511061 Wrote: > > But honestly: _I_ find it too big. But that may be just me. Will try to > play around with the SDK, download servers are pretty down right now and > I have to find out which computer to spare since as usual you can't > develop for both versions on one machine :urgh: I think it would be neat if you put this in a dock someplace in your listening area as a giant stationary controller with big buttons and playback status that easily readable from far away. One problem though is that I think a landscape orientation would be better suited for that. >From what I saw, the docks hold the iPad in a portait orientation only. This brings to my mind those gigantic oversized universal remotes you see in drug stores here in the US. Probably not the image that Apple was shooting for :-). I don't see how this thing would be advantageous over an iPod Touch or iPhone as a portable controlling device. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 30,015 songs, 2,448 albums, 451 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
mherger;511073 Wrote: > > I don't see why a server application should run on a portable device? > Oh, _I_ would find streaming from iPod to SB not too bad an idea. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
> In addition to iPeng on the iPad, what about Logitech porting the entire > SqueezeCenter software to the iPad? I don't see why a server application should run on a portable device? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
pippin;511068 Wrote: > On my machines the Web UI is simply way too slow. And not a very good at playlist building,. but it is green in parts Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
pippin;511061 Wrote: > > But honestly: _I_ find it too big. But that may be just me. > Agreed, half the size would be better for a Squeezebox remote. Still, I'll be standing in line to buy iPeng (or something similar) for iPad. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
epoch1970;511046 Wrote: > Really, I don't know. Engadget says so in their hands-on. For me this > means limited prowess when connected to a LAN, and no VPN when on the > move, that's disappointing. > Read through the SDK summary: It's correct, no multitasking mortslim;511049 Wrote: > In addition to iPeng on the iPad, what about Logitech porting the entire > SqueezeCenter software to the iPad? No-Gos: LUA, Perl, Performance, Plugins Probably not. cooppw02;511059 Wrote: > Is a specialized app really necessary for something this size? Wouldn't > it be easier just to load up the normal web UI in Safari? I'm genuinely > curious; I've never even held an iPhone. > Maybe if you have some weird Hi-Speed server. On my machines the Web UI is simply way too slow. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music Library - spanning more than one Disc volume
snarlydwarf;510731 Wrote: > What I would do: > > Create a new directory somewhere convenient to you. > > In that new directory, create a shortcut to "D:\music1" and another > to "e:\music2". > > Tell SBS that new directory is your library. > > Or you could have a shortcut on D:\music1 that points to E:\music2... > > How you do it is really up to you. I think the first method is a bit > prettier (all shortcuts in the same spot, and nothing but shortcuts > there), but that's just taste. > > The radio has no clue about paths to files or anything: the server does > it all. As Snarly said this is the well-documented (on this forum) way to do it. No restrictions, no constraints. Simples. Takes 5 minutes, lasts a lifetime! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74542 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
iPhone;511042 Wrote: > According to some of the Tech Gadget Sites, all iPhone apps will work on > the iPad and work perfectly if the author does some simple display > changes to take advantage of the larger display. That is good news. Everything is supposed to run but will then likely just look like on the iPhone. There are a few things you HAVE to do differently on iPad (orientation change support, iPeng 1.3 should have that anyway). But there are a lot of things you WANT to do differently. Hey, what about those ~50 tickets in iPeng track that talk about showing certain stuff permanently that I stubbornly ignored so far. With the big screen there should be quite a bit of stuff that can be much better on that thing. But honestly: _I_ find it too big. But that may be just me. Will try to play around with the SDK, download servers are pretty down right now and I have to find out which computer to spare since as usual you can't develop for both versions on one machine :urgh: -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
Is a specialized app really necessary for something this size? Wouldn't it be easier just to load up the normal web UI in Safari? I'm genuinely curious; I've never even held an iPhone. I'm a Duet owner, and I've found that when I have a laptop and the Controller in the same room, I generally prefer to use the laptop to control my Squeezeboxen. I find it easier to conduct searches and manage playlists via the web UI. -- cooppw02 cooppw02's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
iPeng on iPad my first thoughts when I saw the announcement. I came here KNOWING there would be a forum topic about it and it's already 2 pages. You guys don't disappoint! Jeff -- jtf jtf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1549 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
In addition to iPeng on the iPad, what about Logitech porting the entire SqueezeCenter software to the iPad? -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
pippin;511038 Wrote: > Really? > While I still insist that NOT multitasking is one of the success > factors for iPhone (after working a bit with WinMobile again over the > weekend I am reassured about that) I think for THIS thing it should > be... Really, I don't know. Engadget says so in their hands-on. For me this means limited prowess when connected to a LAN, and no VPN when on the move, that's disappointing. But, I am sure you can use that real estate to create yet another smashing front-end to the players. -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
Quoting iPhone (iphone.45gsxz1264624...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com): > > pippin;511037 Wrote: > > I've said it over and over again: get the biggest artwork you can find, > > 600x600 is not the end of all screens. > > > > No idea about iPad, yet. It's obviously iPhone OS but I have to dig > > through the doc to find out how it's different. > > According to some of the Tech Gadget Sites, all iPhone apps will work > on the iPad and work perfectly if the author does some simple display > changes to take advantage of the larger display. That is good news. I'm sure they'll WORK, but I'll bet a lot of them will need to be optimized for the larger display. Having a giant iPeng remote is really the only compelling reason I see to buy this thing, and I'm an Apple gadget fanboy. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
pippin;511037 Wrote: > I've said it over and over again: get the biggest artwork you can find, > 600x600 is not the end of all screens. > > No idea about iPad, yet. It's obviously iPhone OS but I have to dig > through the doc to find out how it's different. According to some of the Tech Gadget Sites, all iPhone apps will work on the iPad and work perfectly if the author does some simple display changes to take advantage of the larger display. That is good news. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
arubaluba;511022 Wrote: > Hello, > > today I tried ACC version 3.0.1 but unfortunately i got the following > error. See screenshot. It's partly in Dutch but I think you'll > understand, Frank. I have to say that ACC version 2.1 runs fine, so I > don't understand the ODBC-driver error. Does anybody have a clue? Thanks > in advance. > > Best regards, Rene. Please send me the acc.log file by mail. -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for SqueezeCenter '_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl) SlimServer. 2xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
Now this may finalise the decision that I don't need a touch to treat my addiction - with my existing players and an iPad/iPeng combination the only realimportant capability the touch might provide is higher audio resoltion - and my transporter provides this beautifully for serious listening and my present server set up works beautifully (and efficiently) so I don't need the USB or built-in server capabilities. The bigger display on the iPad and the ability to use the best user interface I've found for squeezeboxes is really attractive when will it be available, will they beat Logitech to a shipping product I wonder? -- linvale Squeezcenter running on ACER R1600 Windows XP Fileserver ReadyNAS Duo Main Listening Transporter / Controller Kitchen : SB3 Bedroom : Boom Bath : SBRadio Study: Duo linvale's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22828 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
"epoch1970" Wrote: > I read the damn thing still isn't multitasking :( Really? While I still insist that NOT multitasking is one of the success factors for iPhone (after working a bit with WinMobile again over the weekend I am reassured about that) I think for THIS thing it should be... -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
I've said it over and over again: get the biggest artwork you can find, 600x600 is not the end of all screens. No idea about iPad, yet. It's obviously iPhone OS but I have to dig through the doc to find out how it's different. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
I read the damn thing still isn't multitasking :( -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
I've always known a day would come when I would regret sizing all my cover artwork to 300x300. It's today. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
Thanks Nathan for your reply. But according to the website ODBC v5.1 is required for ACC v2.0 and up. Since ACC 2.1 is running fine here I think the ODBC driver v5.1 is installed correctly on my PC. There must be something else wrong. Regards, Rene. -- arubaluba arubaluba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
Heh, Rhapsody is still 170x170, even after I have bugged them for YEARS about this. :( -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
Funny, I was just checking in to see if any iPad threads had started yet. Would the album artwork scale appropriately? Seems like a potential issue, especially Pandora or Rhapsody sourced stuff. -- ajkidle 2x SBR, Boom, Radio, iPeng ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
Version 3.x uses a different ODBC driver than version 2.x. Details on the web site. I don't know whether this is the problem BUT if you didn't install the newer ODBC driver, give that a try. -- nathan_h nathan_h's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
Hello, today I tried ACC version 3.0.1 but unfortunately i got the following error. See screenshot. It's partly in Dutch but I think you'll understand, Frank. I have to say that ACC version 2.1 runs fine, so I don't understand the ODBC-driver error. Does anybody have a clue? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Rene. +---+ |Filename: ACC error.PNG| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9150| +---+ -- arubaluba arubaluba's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] iPeng on iPad?
Any chance for an iPad optimized version of iPeng? That would be so cool. -- yoyoma yoyoma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9170 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: New Squeezeslave 0.9 Release available on sourceforge
bobkoure;510655 Wrote: > You might just read the 'notes' > (http://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/source/list)... thanks. I've been round and round the wiki but I've obviously been looking in the wrong place :) -- indifference_engine indifference_engine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20698 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63966 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
autopilot;510888 Wrote: > > There is a cost element too. Surely a video capable device would cost > more to develop and produce the an audio. I would not want to pay for > features I never use. > > WHY would it cost to much? And are you telling us that you use "every" available feature on your current Squeezeboxes? I understand you use the main one, Audio. Would you not use Video if it were available? There are two devices for under $250 that do just what SB does for audio that do the same for video as well as they both also play audio. The 'cheaper one' (http://www.hdtvsupply.com/1080p-high-definition-media-server.html) appears not to support FLAC. The only real drawback I see is that they use an external video display and that is probably because they were designed for Video so it is assumed that one will hook it up to a video display. It would be extremely easy to build/include the same video engine/decoder in a device just slightly larger then a Touch so that it would have a display for when using just audio IE a Touch that does both Audio and Video. So if this was designed the cost would not be the cost of both devices added together due to the shared nature of the device doing basically the same thing. Would I pay $379 for a Touch that did streamed 1080P HDMI and 24/96 FLAC? I would. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox V2 name in SB Server
Did he removed it from his mysqueezebox.com (aka squeezenetwork) account ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBRto be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to controll this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74571 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
snarlydwarf;510953 Wrote: > That and the usage model of video is entirely different than music. > > There are very few movies that I have watched more than a dozen times. > I have many many albums that I have listened to dozens of times, and > will listen to dozens of times more. > > Regardless of how cheap disk space is, and how fast bandwidth gets, I > really don't see a need to rip a DVD so I can stream it around the > house. It's easier to carry the DVD to the player I want to use. > Kids on the other hand will gladly watch the same Bob the Builder movie a gazillion times (not only that, they often insist to do so), and kids aren't exactly kind to DVDs so having a rip stored on a server could make sense. Maybe I'm a kid too, since there are a few movies I enjoy having instant access to. Of course the database for video would need to have a different structure than the music database, but it seems to me that designing a video catalog should be a doddle compared to music. Most of the cheap media players pouring out these days are almost entirely intended for video with very poor support for music. They may handle a bunch of audio file formats just fine, but browsing, building play lists, listening to online services is severely limited or non existant. All the stuff that makes SB stand out is missing. To at least briefly touch the topic of this thread, with added support for video in the SB range it could probably compete pretty well with those boxes based just on superior support for music. My reason for thinking video could be a useful addition is that I think the SB architecture is pretty damn clever. The SBS is a formidable backend and I think a similar concept would prove to be a good solution for video also. And I'm guessing some of the chipsets used by late model media players could run SqueezeOS which I think would provide a nice and practical UI. I just don't see the conflict here. Why would the sky fall down and the world come to an end if SBS was extended to support video files and a video player was added to the line of boxes? -- alfista alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeBox V2 name in SB Server
I have purchased a used V2 SqueezeBox with 130 firmware. It works great except for the name. The previous owner had it named "Family Room". I go in SqueezeBox Server and change the name and for a while it remembers the name, but after a while (maybe after a power cycle? ) it reverts back to "Family Room". Is this normal? I don't know if this is the correct forum because there doesn't seem to be a forum for SqueezeBox Classics or V2. -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74571 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
mherger;510816 Wrote: > Even MS had to learn this lesson and therefore published "Mommy, Why is > There a Server in the House?" > > http://gizmodo.com/342499/microsofts-brainwashing-childrens-book-mommy-where-do-servers-come-from > -- > Michael As a brief aside, I thought this was a joke when I saw it when it came out. It is hysterical. If you haven't read it, you should just for the entertainment value. It's modeled against the educational pamphlets you see in hospitals and doctors offices. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.3.3, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 30,015 songs, 2,448 albums, 451 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion
Well incompetence, frankly with the investment in portfolio development, somebody should get sacked for the whole communications / market experience. It's not the developer's jobs to inform and educate. -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
aubuti: Indeed, and I somewhat agree with you in that there, for all practical intents and purposes, currently are several market-segments for these things. However at the end of the day I don't think they are that different. I'm a computer scientist, and I do have a server doing various things. But I must admit that I would happily bin it if I could get the job done by plug'n play devices. Though this is not going to happen tomorrow, there is no reason it can/will not become reality in the forseeable future. Of course, this excludes the segment of those that likes tinkering for the sake of tinkering. But there are plenty offerings for those already. IMO. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I'd Like to Listen to Television Audio on my Boom
this may be heretical, but at least it's simple: Take a smartphone with wifi, tune in the desired program via hulu.com, nbc.com, or other site, and then put the phone face down on the bedside table. I can understand the OP's point that -It seems to me with all we can access, Television Audio shouldn't be that big of a deal.- But even if it's technologically trivial, I doubt there's a big market, and I certainly don't see any of the providers falling over each other to separate the audio stream from the video. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
bhaagensen;510959 Wrote: > Sorry, but I don't think this argument holds water. It is assuming > everyone can be bothered to: buy, own, maintain, pay for, allocate space > for, have some remote interest in - a server. I doubt that is the case > for the general public - at least not to an extent where it makes sense > to rule out the option. Obviously there are several markets, or at least market segments. For my own use, I feel pretty much the same way as Pablo, and I imagine that's true of a lot of current SB users. But a lot of people balk at "having a computer on" to play music, ignoring the fact that NASs or some of the devices in the OP *are* computers. As a glimpse of one of the other market segments, last week I went to a friend's housewarming party. A brand new, big, $2m house. And among the technological items that impressed people was a little recess in the kitchen wall where you could stick an iPod and it would play through the in-ceiling speakers. I didn't notice if they were in other rooms of the house, but they probably are. I asked my friend what brand the system was, and he said "I have no idea. Whatever the contractor installed." He and his wife are both computer savvy (though their PhDs are in economics, so they lose a few points for that...), but they just wanted an easy solution. As for the $1k-and-up market that are in the OP, I think that Logitech is choosing not to compete in this market. They'll keep selling the TP for a while, but I don't see any successor to the TP under Logitech's ownership. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I'd Like to Listen to Television Audio on my Boom
PequaFrog;510760 Wrote: > That's nuts! > There's a LOT of people who used to buy these old television band > radios so they can listen to a few stations at least. There HAS to be a > better way!!! perhaps in the US, I've never heard of them before though :) -- funkstar my collection: *1*x squeezebox radio *1*x squeezebox touch *1*x squeezebox boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver) *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
pablolie;510951 Wrote: > > so i think the basic architecture of some systems is flawed by trying > to be some sort of new appliance that replicates functionality that is > available elsewhere, and includes areas of expertise that are alien to > audio vendors (why on earth should they design a better computer than > established computer vendors)? > Sorry, but I don't think this argument holds water. It is assuming everyone can be bothered to: buy, own, maintain, pay for, allocate space for, have some remote interest in - a server. I doubt that is the case for the general public - at least not to an extent where it makes sense to rule out the option. -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mysqueezebox.com - passwird issue, cant use iPeng now
I assume your issue is fixed now? Anyway, for others running into the same thing: The "password" entry field on the MySB login page is NOT tagged as a "password" field. This results in the password being shown AND (and this can be an issue) the first letter is automatically capitalized. So be careful not to enter "Abcde" when you really mean "abcde"! You have to manually turn "shift" off. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73683 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion
snarlydwarf;510956 Wrote: > > Some things are better done by small groups. > Don't blame this on size. Amazon does a fine job of selling stuff. This is an issue of competence. -- bruce bruce's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion
aubuti;510942 Wrote: > Looks more to me like a 2 person shop, with each one out to undermine > the other Actually I think it -was- a one or two person job for slimdevices.com.. it's when Logitech corporate took the ordering on theselves that it got screwed up. A combination of 'one size fits all' web design, lack of communication with the product managers, chaos in their committees, etc. I don't think even basic 'shopping cart' functionality like in stock status works. Some things are better done by small groups. Ordering from the old site was a pleasure, and had speedy shipping: if I ordered something on Monday morning, it would be on the UPS truck that afternoon and at my door in a day or two. I don't think the 'improved' ordering process can do that at all. (And my real fear is that it is just as chaotic for distributors trying to order. Incomplete catalogs, invalid inventory status, etc.) -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
usch;510837 Wrote: > Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I > start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current > state of my hard- and software and stop updating. > > Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have > the typical artist / album / track relationship. Or would anybody want a > random mix of their favorite movie scenes? > That and the usage model of video is entirely different than music. There are very few movies that I have watched more than a dozen times. I have many many albums that I have listened to dozens of times, and will listen to dozens of times more. Regardless of how cheap disk space is, and how fast bandwidth gets, I really don't see a need to rip a DVD so I can stream it around the house. It's easier to carry the DVD to the player I want to use. Not to mention that I -do- watch 'extras' on DVD's, and on several CD's (Icky Flix, or The Commercial DVD), the navigation is an integral part of the experience. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
what i don't get about many of these other offerings is that they want me to replace my CD player with a new box - a server/player-combo-box that stroes my music there. err, i have a perfectly good server in the house, and i don't want a music server as a replacement for my CD player - i want a very lightweight client. the storage and computing is better done where it belongs - on a computer. at better cost points, with better service- and upgrade-ability. so i think the basic architecture of some systems is flawed by trying to be some sort of new appliance that replicates functionality that is available elsewhere, and includes areas of expertise that are alien to audio vendors (why on earth should they design a better computer than established computer vendors)? i think the SB fundamental architecture is the smart way to go. especially since now with the Touch i get all the functionality of these high end boxes in a better priced, more compact, and most likely equally well sounding package (get an external DAC if you don't like the built in DA conversion). i think the flaw of the SB system for the regular user is still the CD ripping process (but that will probably matter less and less as people just download music), and the temperamental nature that SBS has developed at times. since software seems to be the weak link (for rips and troublefree operation) perhaps it means that Logitech needs to find a way to monetize software some more so they get (a) some return on development and (b) more customer lock in. but then the software *has* to work in utterly reliable form, and upgrade fiascos and lapses in operation then are no longer acceptable. and the linux version should still be free. :-D the Touch in my opinion is genius and points the way to the future. i think the client had to become smarter from an interface point of view, yet remains lightweight from a music path point of view. it is the best of all worlds. Logitech has this nearly won: the interface is pretty, the box very flexible, the cost point just right. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27D - Ubuntu 8.04LTS - SBS 7.4.1 Sources: SB3 (3), SB Boom (3), Duet (1), Accuphase DP65v CD Amplifier: Accuphase E306v - Creek OBH21/22 Loudspeakers: Ceeroy 3-way tower (tuned) - Audioengine 5/S8 - Acoustic Energy Aego M Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.5 Release Date
Word is that 7.5 will be released when the SB Touch is released, and there are lots of wild rumors and speculation flying around these forums and elsewhere on the net about the release date of the SB Touch. The best answer is "when it is ready". -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74565 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion
HeavyB;510928 Wrote: > it is almost as if the sales/marketing department and the web site are a > 1 person shop. Looks more to me like a 2 person shop, with each one out to undermine the other -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
Rick B.;510931 Wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone has raised this situation: You've printed a > beautiful color catalog of 100 or 200 pages long - great - but now I've > bought a few new albums. I don't really want to print a whole new > catalog just to include a handful of new albums. > > Instead, I think I'd want to print a separate catalog of albums created > after a certain date - sort of like an addendum. Can the app do this > using any of the available options or is this something new? Any other > way of handling? I guess I could use a Genre or Comment of "New" and use > that condition? > > Thanks. That is actually a brilliant Idea! It is a new option but I think adding a new filter that will allow one to enter a date that is used as 'from' date would do the trick. I'll do some research on it and get back on this. Frank -- SilverRS8 Author of -'AlbumCatalogCreator' (http://acc.vanholt.nl)- for SqueezeCenter '_' (http://www.badkamerpech.nl) SlimServer. 2xSB3, 1xDuet, 1xRadio, 1xiPhone iPeng, Ubuntu NAS + SBS SilverRS8's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Mysqueezebox.com - passwird issue, cant use iPeng now
Hi. I'm having trouble accessing my squeezebox account through ipeng. I enter the correct email and password, but it says "invalid email/password". It's definitely the correct information as I've verified it multiple times on mysqueezebox.com. I do not have my own server running--I just want to access MySqueezebox.com Thanks for your help. -- tomaltenk tomaltenk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22966 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73683 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 7.5 Release Date
Does anyone know or have a sense for when we can expect the official release of 7.5? -- jwagner010 jwagner010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74565 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3
I'm not sure if anyone has raised this situation: You've printed a beautiful color catalog of 100 or 200 pages long - great - but now I've bought a few new albums. I don't really want to print a whole new catalog just to include a handful of new albums. Instead, I think I'd want to print a separate catalog of albums created after a certain date - sort of like an addendum. Can the app do this using any of the available options or is this something new? Any other way of handling? I guess I could use a Genre or Comment of "New" and use that condition? Thanks. -- Rick B. Rick B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion
I concur with the frustration expressed here. I love my Squeezebox but it is almost as if the sales/marketing department and the web site are a 1 person shop. -- HeavyB HeavyB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74502 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
usch;510837 Wrote: > Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I > start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current > state of my hard- and software and stop updating. > > Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have > the typical artist / album / track relationship. Or would anybody want a > random mix of their favorite movie scenes? > > The biggest drawback of all video-capable players I have come across is > that you -have to- hook them up to a TV, otherwise you don't even get a > menu to operate them because they have no display of their own. And I > surely don't want TV screens all over my flat. > > IMHO the step away from the large text display to tiny graphics > displays was already a step in the wrong direction. Instead of enjoying > the cover art on the screen, people are asking "Why can't the Radio play > YouTube videos?" - the customer is never satisfied. :rolleyes: Well you can always imagine a squeezebox 3 with an hdmi output, which would act exactly like a SB3 when you play music, and be able to send video through hdmi (and display menus and stuff on the TV) when you want to watch a movie. it would just need another item in the menu, something like "my movies" right next to "my music". -- BlueScreenJunky BlueScreenJunky's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22725 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
usch;510837 Wrote: > Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I > start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current > state of my hard- and software and stop updating. > > Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have > the typical artist / album / track relationship. Or would anybody want a > random mix of their favorite movie scenes? > > The biggest drawback of all video-capable players I have come across is > that you -have to- hook them up to a TV, otherwise you don't even get a > menu to operate them because they have no display of their own. And I > surely don't want TV screens all over my flat. > > IMHO the step away from the large text display to tiny graphics > displays was already a step in the wrong direction. Instead of enjoying > the cover art on the screen, people are asking "Why can't the Radio play > YouTube videos?" - the customer is never satisfied. :rolleyes: I agree with this. I'm not sure how I would put a popcorn in my bathroom, bedroom and kitchen. Even in my main living/listening room i would hate to have to turn my plasma on just to change track. In fact for a while I did with my HTPC, which I ditched in favour of the more elegant Squeezebox 3. None of the the 'jack of all trades' streamers I have used, while great, come close to being as competent an audio player as the Squeezebox. That said, I would not be adverse to a SqueezeVideo(tm) as long as the video capable device complimented the current range and focus on continuing to make the best music devices was not lost. But it would sit next to my existng SB. -- autopilot Cheers, auto. *lounge:* squeezebox 3, squeezebox controller, cambridge audio 640a, mission 701's *kitchen:* squeezebox touch, trends ta-10.1, kef cresta 1's. *bedroom:* squeezebox boom *bathroom/garden:* squeezebox radio *car:* ipod classic 80gb *portable:* iphone 3gs 32gb (+ipeng) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
+1 Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!
Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current state of my hard- and software and stop updating. Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have the typical artist / album / track relationship. Or would anybody want a random mix of their favorite movie scenes? The biggest drawback of all video-capable players I have come across is that you -have to- hook them up to a TV, otherwise you don't even get a menu to operate them because they have no display of their own. And I surely don't want TV screens all over my flat. IMHO the step away from the large text display to tiny graphics displays was already a step in the wrong direction. Instead of enjoying the cover art on the screen, people are asking "Why can't the Radio play YouTube videos?" - the customer is never satisfied. :rolleyes: -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I'd Like to Listen to Television Audio on my Boom
Is there analog TV anywhere these days ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_transition -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBRto be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to controll this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74476 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
