Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?
Thanks for all of the responses so far. I've got some good starting points for research and experimentation. It seems we're all in the same boat together--thanks to all who has the time and knowledge to scope out this path a bit before me. Seems quite a needless shame that no commercial product really fills the gap left by the Squeezebox line. CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?
tcutting wrote: > I've got an RPi running squeezelite and jivelite (using SqueezeOnArch). > jivelite responds to keyboard commands to navigate, and use FLIRC and a > media center remote to generate the psuedo key-presses from an IR > remote. I have an LCD screen (same resolution as Joggler, so can use the > Joggler skin in jivelite) connected via HDMI. HiFiBerryPi AMP+ to some > passive speakers - almost a "Boom2". Haven't figured out how to add > visualizations, but the menus work OK, and Now Playing screen. Wow... that is... wow, it sounds like exactly what I want. Thanks for the pointers. Okay, so I've never done any of this before though. I'm certainly game to try, but it's all new, so bear with my newbness. The Raspberry Pi--it's always just a board, no enclosure, right? Are there multiple versions? Are there people who make enclosures that would be applicable to this sort of use? One of my locations is not remotely safe for exposed circuits, the others may be able to handle it. How do you, you know, keep it safe? Small LCD screens seem to be tough to locate. I really only need 4-7", what do you suggest, and how do you connect it up to the Pi? HiFiBerry.com seems unresponsive at the moment, I'm assuming you'd only need the DAC+ to feed to a receiver or active speakers, correct? I figured visualizations would be the hardest part. If SoftSqueeze could be made to work, I suppose I could run that, or maybe even a second, silent, synced player showing nothing but a visualization. And, squeezelite is the player app and jivelite is the remote app, right? Can't squeezelite be controlled directly by keypresses? Maybe I'm confused about what these things do. CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?
Man in a van wrote: > Are you in the former commonwealth, or the UK? Former colonies, I'm afraid. I'm looking up various Raspberry Pi projects ATM, but having a Joggler or two shipped over wouldn't be out of the question. CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?
castalla wrote: > Joggler with sqpOS - a cheap Touch replacement. Never used SqueezePlay--how does sqpOS/SqueezePlay handle playback controls? i.e. does it have its own controls, or does it rely on your using a separate control interface via something like a web browser? What about Now Playing info? Screenshots may be a better way to show me how it works, but I haven't really found any good ones. Like the touchscreen integration, though. Not usable from a distance like an IR remote, but pretty cool nevertheless. FWIW, I'm very comfortable with software hacks, hardware hacks much less so--so I was leaning toward a Tablet running SqueezePlay and attempting to get an external IR receiver to function over USB or somesuch. CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Status of various Squeezebox replacement projects/products?
So, lucky me, every Squeezebox I own is still 100% functional. But I know eventually something's going to break, and dammit I really like these things. So to prepare myself for that dreadful day, I wanted to write out my personal feature wishlist (sort of prioritized), and see what's out there that best matches what I want. 1. Ogg Vorbis support. Yeah, let's start with a curveball, shall we? 100% of my music is in Ogg Vorbis format, so good support is a must, but on-the-fly transcoding is fine. 2. Gapless playback 3. Multi-device sync (without breaking gapless playback!) 4. Multi-tagging + ALBUMARTIST support 5. Replaygain support 6. Ability to play Internet streams (i.e. radio stations) 7. Ability to control playback from and show Now Playing info/visualizations on that device 8. IR remote support As far as what's out there: for packaged products, we have Sonos, Olive, and various DLNA implementations (anything else?). Then, for projects, we have, AFAICT, various ways to run SqueezeLite--on a Raspberry Pi, on an HTPC, on a tablet, etc. First off, did I miss anything? Secondly, how well do each of these replacements stack up, relative to an actual Squeezebox? If I understand correctly, #2, #3, and #4 are hard to come by in packaged products, and #7 and #8 might be hard to accomplish via SqueezeLite. I probably handle #7 and #8 via the SlimServer web interface (or some other interface) on a phone or tablet, although I really do strongly prefer using the IR remote control over the web interface. CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Listening breaks up when copying large files
rbl;565618 Wrote: > I actually have a NAS server. Buffalo Linkstation Pro LS-500GL, prob 3 > years old or so. I never used it as a server since I always assumed it > would be even more unreliable / painful than running SBS on Windows > (and also I used to use Inguz EQ but have pretty much given up on that > now, and try to use softsqueeze / squeezeplay too). > > A 100ft backup cat6 is a good idea, but frankly in this day and age is > rather disappointing that these wireless things don't work better! Sounds like the NAS solution is not for you. Still, you can pick up a used P3 desktop with a gig or RAM or so for $50, and it plus a wired connection would behave better than the NAS or any combination of wireless. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Listening breaks up when copying large files
G to N may move some of the data traffic out of the way, but the SB3 is stuck at G (unless you get yet another N router and set it up as a client bridge...). As others have mentioned, you're actually doing two hops over wireless just to play music, doubling the music traffic. G to N may improve things, but I'm dubious it would make things completely fixed. Two routers with two non-overlapping channels is definitely doable, and you'd need a wireless dongle for you laptop to support it. Dual-homing is what it's called when you set up a single machine for two networks. But I'm of the opinion that the ultimate problem is that, the way your network is currently designed, your laptop is a major choke point. You're already asking it to do too much, and I'm not sure creating a whole new network topology is a good idea if your laptop is still the chokepoint in that new setup. Instead of looking at wireless access points, look at NAS devices that support Squeezebox Server. You can offload the work onto that, wire that to your network so there's only one wireless hop, and you'll be much happier. Just double-check that your music format is playing back natively and isn't transcoded (NAS devices don't have much CPU power to transcode). Or even skip the NAS device and get a real low-end PC to act as a server--there's no limits then. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Listening breaks up when copying large files
Generally speaking, if you're running out of network capacity, your solutions are to use less or get more. Ethernet is the cheapest, fastest, and easiest fix. Otherwise you're looking at creating segregated wireless networks for data and music, or some sort of QoS setup. This will probably require purchasing one or more new access points, voiding the warranies with custom firmware, and/or taking a crash course in advanced networking. There's also the much smaller possibility that it's some other sort of I/O getting overloaded. If the server is the source or dest of those file transfers, the playback is being transcoded, AND the disk is also slow or otherwise busy, I suppose is could be disk I/O. But even that would be pretty unlikely. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80802 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can you still purchase IR remotes?
Okay the Touch remote is probably the best match for an old SB3 remote. Support seems like an odd place to hide products you can purchase, but at least now I know! -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can you still purchase IR remotes?
...and if so, where? I can't find them on the website anymore. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players
jimzak;443331 Wrote: > Cowon is a nice piece of kit but the battery change issues on all their > devices holds me back. FYI--if you still have your X5, the Rockbox bootloader supports solid-state drives (the Cowon firmware does not). Replacing the mechanical drive with a solid state drive should help with battery consumption enormously, even if the battery is old and won't take much of a charge. That's certainly my long-term maintenance plan. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] synchronization problems - and getting worse
When I say noticeable drift, I mean it'd be correct one day, 10 minutes slow the next day, 20 minutes slow two days later, etc. A little normal clock drift, that you wouldn't notice except over very long periods of time, should be perfectly fine. I think your best bet is to set up a test server on a full-powered PC. If the problem goes away, we know it's something with the QNAP. If it DOESN'T go away, one of your SB3's may have a hardware problem, and you could call support. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65870 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] synchronization problems - and getting worse
Sounds like you've already done much of the troubleshooting, so I'm not left with many good suggestions. Have you checked to see if the server clock has noticeable drift from correct time? Have you noticed any difference in behavior on transcoded vs non-transcoded tracks? If you set up a test server on a regular PC and do the same thing, does the problem go away? If the answer to the last question is yes, then it's something about the NAS. Maybe I/O if CPU utilization is low. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65870 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players
tommyz;442770 Wrote: > Don't use Cowon - they don't support gapless playback (and probably > never will). > Unless you are willing to wait for a working rockbox port... > > > TommyZ Only time travellers need to wait. Rockbox has been working on my Cowon player for about four years now. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Portable FLAC Players
Rockbox does indeed support gapless playback, AFAICT regardless of the hardware target you install it on. I have an iAudio X5 myself, with Rockbox firmware. The X5 sounds nice for a portable (it's reputedly one of the best), but not good enough that lossless really makes a difference. If you have the time, you may as well transcode to a lossy format and fit more songs on your player. In addition to this, I also apply some volume normalization since I tend to use my portable in noisy, non-ideal listening environments. Speaking of which, Rockbox also includes an equalizer which has been a godsend for me. My terrible car stereo can be made listenable. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65861 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problems with player pausing.
7.3.3 fixed a few corner cases where playback would very rarely stop for me on long web streams. Certainly can't hurt to update to the most recent version and find out if it helps you. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64554 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] some mp3s don't work
Possible bug in the native MP3 (firmware) decoder? Try turning off native decoding for MP3 in SqueezeCenter (stream as FLAC), and see if it plays okay. If so, then that's your workaround for the time being, and I'm sure the dev team would love you to open a bug on this, including an example of a problem MP3. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64687 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sync a split second off between SB2 and Boom
JannikDK;421577 Wrote: > I also have sync problems. I have had my Duet for one month now and have > tried to sync it to my controller and with SoftSqueeze. Non of it > works. > > After abouts 10 seconds it's out of sync. > I've planned to buy a Boom and one more Reciever, but if the > syncronisation doens't work I must give up that plan. > > Can anobody give me a quaranty for that it will work perfect with > another Reciever, or is it a well known issue? If you buy another receiver and a boom, you can sync them with your existing receiver and controller and everything will work great. The second Softsqueeze enters the mix, things will break. This is all pretty much well-known. Hardware players sync great. Software players don't. If you manage to get a software player syncing right now, it's just luck. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63048 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Firmare Update??
Peter314;405619 Wrote: > There are already a scary number of posts about minor new versions along > the lines of "since installing 7.x.y music sounds worse/server keeps > rebooting/toaster caught fire/wife left me" kind of thing. Two things to remember: - Unless you need a new feature or bugfix in a new release, there's really no reason to upgrade. If you have a system that's working flawlessly, why change it? - Any given (non-beta) upgrade will work fine for >99% of users and break something for <1% of users. However, 100% of that <1% of users will complain about (as they should), making it appear to an outside observer that upgrades never go smoothly. On the contrary, upgrades almost always go smoothly. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61181 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is gapless synching a reality?
Yes* * There may be issues with certain players types or music formats, or combinations thereof. But generally speaking, it works. I can be less broad in my answer if you're more specific in your question. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61171 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] General Dissatisfaction
drs;402781 Wrote: > Knowing that the vast majority of people don't have issues like this > means that they should be solvable. If, however, that solution is hand > editing 1 tags, it is clearly not going to get done :) Hand-editing would only be necessary if you wanted perfect tags. Something like Tag&Rename could be used to search-and-replace common mistags, and that could yield "good enough". But it'll still take some time and effort, there's no getting around that. But yes, take comfort in the fact that your server is vastly overpowered and is the envy of much of the forum. The performance issues you're seeing are not from lack of muscle, not even close. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60755 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.3.2 Stable?
Disable antivirus (temporarily) during the scan. If that helps, search for the AV exceptions that sometimes need to be made for SqueezeCenter. I'd run NetStumbler to figure out exactly which channels your neighbors are using. Trial and error will just make you tired, especially if your neighbors are sitting all over the spectrum. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59234 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.3.2 Stable?
Sounds to me like your wireless network is getting clobbered. In my experience 7.3.2 is quite stable on my 2 SB3s (both wireless). Try it wired and see if things improve. Your neighbor may have just bought a new router... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59234 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DLNA Compliance?
wildgoose;390803 Wrote: > Think about it, 5 years from now, when all TVs or receivers or game > consoles or whatever starts to support DLNA, and DLNA server software > on computers becomes better and better and NAS and receivers > universally supports it. Who's gonna buy SB? Me, and anyone else who needs something better than DLNA. Or was that one of those rhetorical questions? ;) -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FFW in Squeezebox - Version: 7.3.2 - 24695
FWIW, given that the problem seems to be one of patents and licensing, it may be considerably faster to convert your library to FLAC (or something else) than to hang your hopes on this bug. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58733 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sync delay between tracks
To elaborate: it looks like the bugs that have been mentioned are specific to transcoded streams (e.g. ALAC) where the transcoding process is slow (perhaps on a NAS install). Most other use cases seem to be already much better behaved in the 7.3 series, and the bugs that have been identified are either being worked on or are already fixed in beta. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58459 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.3.3 bugs galore
Seconding the "just you" vote. I can verify it works without any significant issues on Linux. I can't speak for SoftSqueeze but the rest sounds like something's gone wonky on either the server or the network. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?
mvordeme;384425 Wrote: > If the client will use the key only if required, the attack could still > be successful in encrypted networks. That's correct. Clients would, in an attempt to "fail gracefully", see that their SSID suddenly no longer required a WPA key and they'd just connect to it anyway. It would absolutely be more secure if the client saw that the AP didn't require WPA and refused to connect. That would make this attack impossible even against WEP protected networks. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29499 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?
Here's a simple illustration of what's being done now, and how a much more subtle variant is possible against those who don't broadcast their SSID: There have already been reported cases of less-sophisticated "hostile access points" in public places. i.e. you go to an airport or hotel and there's some access point somewhere with the SSID FreeWiFi (or something similar). You either assume it's run by the establishment or you don't care as long as it can get you on the Internet. You connect to it, do some work, and then move on. Most if not all of the Internet traffic to and from your computer passed in plaintext through this hacker's access point. At the very least, he would have an automated process that scans for usernames and passwords. He could also poison your DNS, so that you go to websites under his control instead of the ones you intend to go to. This could be as simple as a malware injection or as complicated as a man-in-the-middle e-commerce or e-banking impersonation attack. The problems with this attack are that the user must choose to connect to this access point, and the access point must broadcast its SSID, which could cause the hacker, or at least the access point, to be physically located. Luckily for this type of hacker, most places do not normally scan for rogue access points, and many users are easy to fool. However, if your laptop announces "I'd like to connect to MyWiFi" whenever it's turned on, a particularly clever hacker could modify his access point so that its SSID was MyWiFi, and they don't even need to broadcast it. Your computer will connect to it without asking you, and by the time you ask yourself "Wait a sec...how am I even connected to the Internet?" you've already given them a lot to play with. And that's the attack vector. Now the attacker's rogue hidden SSID can be discovered just like your home's hidden SSID (an SSID is never hidden if the network is being used at all), so they're not invulnerable. But as I said, most places do not scan for rogue access points at all, let alone know how to scan for a hidden SSID, and it's even less likely they'd choose to scan at the exact moment you're using the rogue access point, which is the only time it would be visible. Whew. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29499 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?
mvordeme;383574 Wrote: > Thanks for being pedantic ;). If it has been spelled out clearly before, > I have not come across it. I am interested in learning more about the > nature of the vulnerability introduced by hiding the SSID. If that > would lead too far in the current context, could you please hint me at > some documentation? > > Thanks and regards, > -- mvordeme Here you go: http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2007/030507-wireless-security.html It's what the article refers to as the KARMA attack. Basically because the access point doesn't have a beacon, your devices constantly check for the presence of this SSID (and in effect become SSID beacons in their own right). Then an attacker knows your SSID and that your device will automatically connect to that SSID, and they can impersonate your WAP and at that point they can do all kinds of nasty things--DNS poisoning and password sniffing being the most obvious. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29499 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is SSID broadcast required to be on?
Please excuse me for being pedantic if you already know this, but I'm not sure this has been spelled out clearly: Disabling SSID broadcast is WORSE than ineffective. It actually reduces the security of your mobile wireless devices. If you disable SSID broadcast, you are INTRODUCING a vulnerability into your systems that wasn't there before, and not getting anything in return. Also, the relevant wireless specs state that a wireless device may refuse to connect to an access point that does not broadcast its SSID. In practice, they tend to connect initially and then fail to periodically reconnect under various circumstances. This is NEVER A BUG and if the device manufacturer actually "fixes" this issue, they are simply doing you a favor, nothing more. That said, you may do whatever you like with your own networks. I simply hope that you don't do anything based on all-too-common misconceptions about wireless security. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29499 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DLNA Compliance?
thomsens;382299 Wrote: > My problem is that I've spent over $3K with them and I don't want bricks > on my hands. There is zero risk of that. If Mountain View gets struck by a comet and every trace of SlimDevices is burnt to a crisp, SqueezeCenter would still be actively updated with new capabilities because it's open source (currently there's no need for decentralized development, but there's absolutely nothing stopping it). Your devices will only become bricks if the hardware fails. Heck, DLNA proxies could be added by the community in the post-Mountain View apocalypse too, if there was enough demand and a coder willing and able to do it. That's one of the reasons why I went with Slim over the other solutions. Slim devices are actually LESS likely to become bricks than their competition, not more. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18295 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices
bgriffis;377323 Wrote: > Everything I've read indicates that current hardware will be firmware > upgradeable to be compliant with the final 802.11n spec Everything I've read says this too. But the spec is being written by those who stand to profit more if the final spec is NOT firmware upgradable from existing products (because they can sell us another one!). Consumer electronics has a long, ugly history of completely unneccessary incompatibilities being foisted on consumers to shore up profit margins. 802.11n may be an exception, maybe not. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57042 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Working around bugs in native ogg streaming?
bpa;376953 Wrote: > As I understand it, not so much a bug as some encoding of OGG streams > result in a requirement for large decoding table which the SB does not > have enough memory so native decoding is needed as PC has the memory. That's one bug (or whatever terminology applies), but it's not the one I run into. The other one is bug#6442, and that's definitely just a plain old bug, and it's the reason I've never used native Ogg playback. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57228 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Working around bugs in native ogg streaming?
JJZolx;376263 Wrote: > What a bassackwards thing to have to do to address a problem with > streaming radio. Then you also disable native streaming of local Ogg > content. This is not necessarily a problem. There are bugs in streaming local Ogg content that are also fixed by disabling native decoding. And as of the new streaming code, AFAICT transcoded streams have complete feature parity with native streams (seeking, etc), so there's no downside to doing this unless you have a low-powered NAS that can't keep up. My local collection is 100% Ogg Vorbis, and I haven't been able to use native playback for one reason or another for the past several years. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for 7.3.2 though... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57228 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices
iPhone;375006 Wrote: > Most importantly, its not really needed for what the Squeezeboxes do at > this time. I disagree here. Sure, if bandwidth were the only consideration, they don't even need to use 802.11g. But there's range considerations too. Considering that they've got new portable devices (Controller, Boom) and users are already fighting with range issues within the confines of their own houses (see comments in bug#6085), it would be an improvement, at least in some cases. And it'd probably be a noticeable improvement for the original poster too. Maybe not enough to justify the per-unit cost, but it'd be an improvement. If I were SlimDevices it certainly wouldn't be my biggest priority, but it'd still be on the list. If the list included technologies that do not yet exist, such as 802.11n... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57042 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 802.11n Devices
You'll need to wait 11 months or so before it's even possible to make an 802.11n device, and that's if the ratification process stays on schedule. However if you start shopping 18 months from now, I'd say you're likely to find 802.11n devices on the market, possibly even some from SlimDevices. I sincerely hope SlimDevices doesn't join the crowd of manufacturers claiming to support 802.11n before it's possible to truthfully make such a statement. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57042 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Syncing problems with 7.3
Those reporting SBC/Transporter sync issues should keep an eye on this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6442 -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56942 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A Bit Of Tongue-In-Cheekiness
Dogberry2;371640 Wrote: > Oh great! Thanks for planting that in my subconscious! Now tonight I'll > probably have a nightmare about some $5000/foot cables strangling me > because I'm using FLAC instead of WAV. . . . Don't worry about it. WAV cables have a wider turn radius because they're solid rather than stranded (so it'd be nearly impossible to stangle someone with them), FLAC cables wouldn't strangle you for using FLAC, and AIFF cables cost $6000/foot. But just in case, you can tell the difference between the three types by both the presence and authority of the cable. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware
y360;371574 Wrote: > The wish for more encoding formats, support for additional DRM schemes > and integration with new music services will probably be forthcoming in > a new SB4 platform with improved hardware I can't see how new hardware can fix what is essentially a legal problem. Unless it's a robot lawyer. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware
ian_heys;371533 Wrote: > That doesn't preclude the original premise that others may chose a > different set of codecs. I didn't mean to sound overly dismissive of the idea. I actually like it (and I've suggested it before: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40412). I just wanted to point out that since licensing adds cost/complexity, and transcoding these days (mostly) removes the need, we're talking about a high cost/benefit ratio. For example, thinking about per-player licensing, let's say you can buy an optional AAC codec pack for your SB3 that includes the licensing cost of the codec. But wait a sec...you have three SB3's. So if the codec is licensed per device, you actually need to be charged for three codec packs, right? How would Logitech enforce this to the satisfaction of the vendor? Invent their own DRM scheme? Etc, etc. That's the sort of question that may help explain why Ogg Vorbis is supported in the firmware even though it's a fairly uncommon format. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware
Steve Bernard, Jr;371521 Wrote: > AAC licensing is fairly straightforward with a per-unit fee Ah, I should say "vendor refusal to license codecs according to terms that are acceptable to Logitech". Frankly I'd balk at licensing AAC for every device sold if my marketing demographics indicated only 8% of my user base needs it (generous guess of people who use AAC/AAC+ AND run SqueezeCenter on their NAS). -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware
aubuti;371522 Wrote: > I would think that native playback is still an advantage when running SC > on underpowered hardware, like a lot of NAS units or ancient PCs that > are "put out to pasture" as music servers. Ah I hadn't considered the NAS angle, thanks. I think that must be the only advantage of native playback anymore, then. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware
If space in the firmware were the only limiting factor, that would be a decent solution--but as Robin points out, vendors refusing to license codecs is a much more serious issue. But I have to ask: what's wrong with server-side transcoding? I mean, if it plays, it plays, right? As of SqueezeCenter 7.3, you can FFWD/REW within transcoded tracks, so I can no longer think of anything you actually lose by transcoding. I'm curious--is there any advantage anymore to native playback? -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56588 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Positive ReplayGain and Clipping
For those not tracking this bug closely, it looks like a server-side solution has been implemented, which is certainly a big improvement. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Positive ReplayGain and Clipping
Oops I guess I wasn't clear. Let's say you have three albums. One with -2 album gain, one with -4 album gain, and one with +2 album gain. The +2 album gain needs to be trimmed back to +1 to avoid clipping. Why can't we also trim back the other albums to -3 and -5 respectively? i.e. we're changing the reference level to below 89dB... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Positive ReplayGain and Clipping
Not to throw a monkeywrench into this whole discussion, but couldn't SqueezeCenter quickly scan its entire database for the maximum amount it will need to scale back positive ReplayGain values, and then apply the same adjustment to *ALL* tracks? Upside: all tracks/albums would again have the same volume, and you wouldn't have to worry about one album seeming quieter than the rest because of clipping-avoidance. Downside: everything could get very quiet, perhaps so quiet that some small powered speakers wouldn't be able to compensate and achieve the same volume. Sounds like a desirable user option to me, though. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30316 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Compilations and "album artist" tag
The whole discussion boils down to the fact that the various tagging specifications are all somewhat inadequate by a number of measures, and that many applications implement those specifications in quirky, nonstandard ways. As a result, many people have collections that, while technically mistagged, happen to work quite well in whatever music management software they've been using. When they start using SqueezeCenter, which in my opinion stays pretty close to the defined tagging specs, their tagging quirks are revealed, sometimes unpleasantly. The rest is just an argument over whose fault this is and who should make the effort to fix it. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55878 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wiki entry on "various artists" or Compilations
Philip Meyer;366946 Wrote: > Perhaps an alternative solution to your situation would be to add Diana > Krall as an additional album artist for that one track No, you'd need to make Diana Krall the album artist for all tracks on the album. I run into this problem all the time in my collection and it's pretty easy to fix this way. As far as I'm concerned it's not a problem in SqueezeCenter, which simply doesn't have enough information to work with until you do this. The downside is that ALBUMARTISTSORT is currently unsupported, so unless you have another track in your collection with both ARTIST and ARTISTSORT (but NOT ALBUMARTIST) defined for the particular artist, it will sort wrong. Argh. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55941 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wiki entry on "various artists" or Compilations
I'd go at it like this: The COMPILATION tag is used to determine whether an album is a compilation (various artists) or not. If the COMPILATION tag is not available, SqueezeCenter uses the following logic to guess whether or not an album is a compilation: If all of the tracks on an album share the same ARTIST or ALBUMARTIST tag, then that album is considered to be a non-compilation. Every album that does not meet this requirement is considered to be a compilation. I think there are also some exceptions for albums where all the tracks aren't stored in the same folder, but all of the exceptions to the above logic are pretty fringe cases, and you'd have to ask someone other than me. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55941 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transporter/SB3 Display Life
>From what I've read, VFDs tend to dim with age rather than fail catastrophically, and they are favored by consumer electronics manufacturers for devices with long real-world lifetimes (10 years and longer). However, I don't know specific longevity figures for these particular displays, so I can't say. Personally, I use the PowerSave plugin to make sure the displays are turned off when not in use. It just doesn't feel right to leave it on all the time. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55942 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness
pablolie;362561 Wrote: > Am I the only one observing random, but serious, performance issues on > 7.2.1? I'm certainly not seeing any of this. Except for the SqueezeCenter web interface, this all sounds like normal wireless network flakiness. Do any/all of the problems go away when you connect wired? -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward
Random Lurker;362243 Wrote: > It is just frustrating because I have other existing setups that provide > exactly the behavior I want based on tags I have carefully scrubbed - > and I can't even achieve that behavior in SC even by adding tags. I think the CustomScan and CustomBrowse plugins mentioned above will likely help you quite a bit. If no standard tag exists for the data you'd like to track, creating your own custom tag is much less likely to create conflicts than repurposing an existing standard tag--because when you repurpose an existing tag, you are relying on the quirks of a particular implementation, which can change at any time. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55335 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward
FWIW I have compilations with ARTISTSORT tags defined for the artists, and I have other non-compilation albums by the same artist, and do not see these issues. I think it's a red herring. It may matter of two ARTISTSORT tags for the same ARTIST don't match, perhaps. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55335 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward
I'd file a bug then. This should work, and I'd go so far as to say this DOES work for almost everyone, so the good news is that it's probably something very very simple that's not going to come out until someone asks the right question. You're likely going to need to provide some scanner logs to the SlimDevices support team so they can figure out why the scanner's not reading your tags right. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55335 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward
Random Lurker;361933 Wrote: > other albums I have in my library by U2 do not appear under the letter U > - rather they are randomly displayed in the Various Artist section. Let's stop right there, one thing at a time. As far as I know, there is NOTHING in the various artists logic that would cause an album to show up under "Various Artists" when every track on that album is tagged with the exact same artist. So let's start there and once that's solved work towards the rest. So find an example album and verify that the ARTIST tag for every track on that album is exactly the same. If you spot a problem in the tagging, then it's a tagging problem. If your tagging is right, then we're looking at a SqueezeCenter bug. I have to say that I'm inclined to believe the former, as what you're trying to do is very simple and I've been doing it for years through multiple versions with no problems. But maybe there's something else very unique about your setup that's causing bugs just for you and nobody else. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55335 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WPS support, what is that
Dang, my RockBox experience led me to think WPS meant "What's Playing Screen". A sort of markup language for a completely user-customizable Now Playing interface. Poo! -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??
Goodsounds;361238 Wrote: > something more than 25 percent of home wifi installations are > unencrypted... I'd honestly be surprised if it's not higher. Technically, a wide-open network isn't necessarily unsecure (you can use captive portal-style authentication, for example, and not allow access from the WLAN to the LAN, but that's how a hotel or business might set it up, not your typical home user) Goodsounds;361238 Wrote: > at some point the intrusion protection becomes more of an inconvenience > than it's worth Absolutely. And with wireless tech, you even have to work hard to set up completely ineffective security. To carry the house analogy way too far, WEP isn't easy and it's like never bothering to lock your doors. Hiding your SSID isn't easy and it's like assuming nobody can see your green house as long as you water your lawn. The shame is that wired security is easy because it's tied to physical security, but wireless security is hard. And it's wireless tech that's popular with the general public, and wired tech that the techies use. No clear solution in sight. Goodsounds;361238 Wrote: > If someone wants to break into my system to listen to Jethro Tull, I'm > ok with that. If that were the only risk, you should be okay with that. You always need to assess your personal risk. Some people live several miles from any other dwelling or road. Do they need to secure their wireless? Probably not. Some people live in apartment buildings with several people they don't even know within range. Probably a wise choice. For what it's worth, the primary risk isn't to the data on your computer--it's to your potential legal liability and/or violation of the terms of service with your ISP for things other people do using your network. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??
toby10;361203 Wrote: > but I'm curious as to why this would also (possibly) make a WiFi > more "flaky"? The 802.11i specification amendment states that a computer can refuse to communicate with an access point that doesn't broadcast its SSID. This clearly isn't done very commonly, but there are many scenarios where this could come into play and may trip over driver-or-hardware-specific variations. My guess is that the machine tries to do a periodic reconnect, or tries to roam due to signal fluctuation, and suddenly decides to be strict and not associate with the access point (which is a perfectly acceptable response according to the specs so nobody would consider this a bug). It would appear like you were just working fine and then it suddenly stops. It's probably fixed by a reboot, or turning wireless off and on. Or broadcasting your SSID ;) -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??
aubuti;361153 Wrote: > SSID hiding doesn't make your computer any less secure. Actually it does. When you've got a computer configured to connect to a hidden SSID, your computer essentially broadcasts the SSID it would like to connect to, in an attempt to connect. Now if you take that computer to another location, it's still broadcasting the hidden SSID it would like to use. Someone in the know could sniff that SSID and quickly set up an access point using the same SSID, your computer would automatically connect, and then they could sniff unencrypted traffic, redirect DNS, all sorts of things. It's not too different from the sort of malicious wireless networks that have already been seen in some airports and hotels. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] better way to enter wireless key??
rov;361138 Wrote: > well i recently upgraded my router to draft-n, so practically the entire > neighborhood can see our wireless network. i have several pcs on the > wireless side and all are locked down as tight as i know how - mac > filtering, no ssid broadcast, and wpa2-aes wireless key. which means i > either have to do the same for the sb3s or connect them over ethernet, > but that's really not an option. > > so, i guess the answer is i don't really want to share my internet > connection or my personal files :-) FWIW, I think this would make a good feature request. I agree long passwords are no fun to enter via the remote. A randomly-generated 63-character WPA2/AES setup is as good as you can get with your typical home setup (the only improvement would be periodic password rotation, which is more of an enterprise feature). MAC filtering and SSID hiding do not actually improve security, and in the case of SSID hiding can actually make your computer less secure. In the best-case scenario, they are useless. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] enough "election" off topic discussions
As the most recent offender, I apologize and promise to keep it to myself. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54835 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What an election.
MrSinatra;357815 Wrote: > tell me, whats a "legal" war? That was probably a hypothetical question, but here's a real although greatly simplified answer. "International law" is comprised of treaties signed by various countries around the world. Basically if a country signs a treaty promising not do perform action X, and then they perform action X anyway, then action X is a violation of the treaty, and illegal. I don't like the term "international law" myself because it creates the impression that this law is being imposed on nations from some outside entity like the UN, and that's not really true. The UN Charter, for example, is actually a treaty (which the US has signed), and part of that treaty is that member states agree not to engage in military aggression without first getting UN approval. So to answer your questions, defensive wars are one sort of legal war. If Iraq attacked the US, the US would be totally within their rights to fight back. So US military action in that hypothetical war would be legal and Iraqi military action would be illegal, because the Iraqis were the aggressors. Now, if Iraq managed to convince the UN Security Council that the US posed a threat to the world community, or presented some sort of looming humanitarian disaster, they could attack the US once they had a UN resolution authorizing the attack, and that would also be legal. There are some other cases involving coming to the aid of an ally that's been attacked, etc, but that's the general gist of it. So with regard to the most recent war between the US and Iraq, only half of that war was truly illegal. The US attack was not authorized by the UN, and therefore violated a treaty and was illegal. The Iraqis, however, were (and still are) fully within their rights to defend their country against the country that invaded them. This if why Kofi Annan, the current US-backed Secretary General of the UN, considered the invasion to be illegal. Hope that helps. Now, there are some other angles on this, such as the complete lack of any consistent enforcement mechanism--which leads to justifiable accusations of case-by-case hypocrisy. We've also gotten UN approval in the past (for the Korean War) when it wasn't necessary, creating an impression that UN approval is needed for all wars (it isn't). There are also many conservatives who think the US should withdraw from the UN, and if that were the case then maybe we could attack whoever we wanted legally (I doubt it--there are still lots of treaties out there). So in simplified terms, the US broke a treaty. News at 11 ;) -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54678 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why do I need the SqueezeCenter server to play my MP3 files?
RudolfJan;355615 Wrote: > What I would like: use the Squeezecenter software to configure playlists > and album info files. Store these on the NAS, make the Squeezebox > connect to the NAS to retrieve these info, just like my simple cheap > MP3 player can do. > > Why would this be difficult to achieve? Here's why it will never happen--SqueezeCenter does more than store a database of your tags, and far more than any cheap (or even expensive) MP3 player could do. For example, it draws every pixel on all of your units' displays. If SqueezeCenter was stripped down to a tags database, among other things, you wouldn't be able to see what was playing. Or synchronize multiple players. That sort of thing. The SlimDevices units are "thin clients", designed to have something smart at the other end of the network or they're more-or-less useless. Big advantages of this design are simplicity, longevity, and upgradability. The disadvantage is when someone doesn't want something smart at the other end of the network, there's not enough power in the end-units themselves to do what you want. Sorry, that's all there is to it. As others have suggested, you may be able to accomplish something like this with SqueezeNetwork or Internet services like MP3Tunes now or someday in the future. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54504 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dissapointed - 7.2.1
Is there any chance your neighbors decided to buy a new wireless-N router around the same day you installed 7.2.1? As far as I can tell, 7.2.1 was the most trivial upgrade ever released. Not a lot of changes, so not a lot is there to break. Your symptoms sound like your wireless network is getting clobbered. The fact that you were getting hiccups and crashes before indicates this problem may have been slowly brewing for a while...SqueezeCenter is as stable as your network. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54187 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Access Point / Router Compatability - Duet update plse !
I'd think it'd be better to maintain a list of routers that DON'T work well than a list of those that do. I mean, what are we really talking about here? Five routers that don't work very well until you turn off the vendor-proprietary MIMO features? Any list of working routers is bound to be woefully outdated and incomplete. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51837 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hard drive storage suggestions
dlsdo;352676 Wrote: > Alright. Help me out here please. What are symlinks? Could you talk > me through the steps necessary to direct SC to scan more than one HD? > > Sorry for the lack of understanding. A symlink is just a filesystem shortcut to another location. Note that it is NOT the same thing as a GUI-style shortcut you'd create on your desktop. I only know for sure about how to do this in Linux, but I'm pretty sure the syntax is the same on a Mac. In Linux, you type "ln -s ". For example, if your SC music folder is at /home/username/music and you want to add a drive at /dev/sdb, you type "ln -s /dev/sdb /home/username/music/sdb" I believe Vista recently added symlink-ish capabilities to Windows, but I'm not sure how to use them. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hard drive storage suggestions
ModelCitizen;352667 Wrote: > I imagine it might something to do with the cross-platform nature of the > server I'm guessing it's not anything so exciting. I imagine the only big roadblock is they'd have to rewrite the "Browse Music Folder" UI to accomodate multiple paths. It currently seems designed for navigating a single directory tree. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hard drive storage suggestions
ModelCitizen;352612 Wrote: > What is reason that SqueezeCenter only allows the user to select one > folder? Can't you just set up some symlinks within the folder pointing to all of the drives? -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54110 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] IPv6 Support
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53800 Question: Should IPv6 be supported? - Yes - No - I Don't Really Care - What Is IPv6 Anyway? IMO IPv6 suffers from "nobody wants to be the first penguin off the iceberg" syndrome. Everyone's just peering over the precipice waiting for everyone else to go first. I have a hard enough time entering a 63-random-character WPA key into my devices. Imagine entering an IPv6 SqueezeCenter address. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53800 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wied Squeezebox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53785 Question: Wired only Squeezebox is a good product? - Yes - No SlimDevices originally sold wired-only SB3's, and you're correct that they cost US $50 less. However, I think the advantages of producing only one flavor of device for all users outweighed any other considerations, and they killed off the wired-only line. Someone may be willing to sell you a used one though! -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53785 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem with accented characters in playlists
You're likely experiencing this bug: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4578 -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48623 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Looks like it's up to you
The clock doesn't actually have to be accurate, it just needs to progress at a rate of one second per second. A quick test would be to use a trusted clock, and record the system time at the start of the test and then one day later (by the trusted clock). Then see how much time has elapsed during that day according to the computer, and you know your drift. It's normal for clocks to drift a little bit. Ultimately you'd need to talk to Logitech to figure out if your clock drift was outside tolerances. This may also very well be a red herring. What format is your music, and what are the specs of your server? -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53732 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Looks like it's up to you
My first suggestion is a follow-up support request to Logitech. Occasionally things that should not get dropped do--mistakes happen. I don't imagine they are singling you out and only providing excellent customer service to everyone else. As for the drift, I'm wondering if you have clock drift on the machine running SqueezeCenter. If that's the case, take a look through the notes on this bug here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8018 for some suggestions. Please note that when your server has a problem maintaining reasonably correct time, that's not something SqueezeCenter can fix. I'd also try going back to all default settings in SqueezeCenter, and doing a factory reset on both players. This should just work out of the box, no tweaking required. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53732 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WPA encryption
At least on the IR controllers for the other products, you can mix upper and lower case. You just need to hit the button more times to get to the lowercase options. You even have full punctuation options. Not absolutely sure this applies to the Controller, but I'm pretty sure. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53676 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapless playback
WMA supports gapless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapless_playback However, I'd believe that proprietary formats tend to be poorly documented, and therefore there are more likely to be mistakes in encoders and decoders not written specifically by the vendor. Also, there may be factors where a perfect decoder would require more resources than small devices have, so space-saving compromises may lead to imperfect decoding. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapless playback
MikeekiM;348725 Wrote: > OK... so gapless is only supported when transcoding is not involved, > and when you are not synching with other players... is that correct? Actually, no. Gapless has worked fine with transcoded Ogg->FLAC since I bought my first SB3 in the SlimServer 6.x days. I always transcode my Ogg's because there's a sync bug with native Ogg decoding. You are correct that gapless sync doesn't work unless you're using the 7.3 nightlies though. If there's a problem with gapless and transcoding, it's limited to specific formats like WMA, but I can't say why that would be. MikeekiM;348725 Wrote: > And the gapless play is by default (i.e., there is no software "switch" > that I need to set to get gapless playback)... Correct. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53590 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 suddenly stops connecting after 2 years
If you can reset your router back to factory defaults and then set it up again, this may help. Some setting like MAC filtering may have gotten accidentally turned on and may be getting in the way. Agree WPA is the way to go unless you really need to run a low-security WEP network for some other device. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Interference - Channel Change not had impact, any other ideas?
radish;347950 Wrote: > That's entirely expected, if you run more than one AP in the same area > they really must be on different channels or they'll stomp all over > each other. I'm not sure what the SBR firmware has to do with it... Agreed. The whole point of channels (originally) was to allow multiple access points to provide continuous coverage over a wide area, by using non-overlapping spectrum. If they overlap, you'll run into problems, even if they're on the same network. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Interference - Channel Change not had impact, any other ideas?
In addition to changing channels, there's: - Router placement. Generally, put it up high with few dense materials between it and the SB3. Brick walls, tile, and metal things (ventilation ducts, appliances) are barriers. Some plaster walls have a nice wire mesh in them, pray you don't have that. - Look for other interfering items other than WAPs. That'd be microwave ovens, old 2.4GHz cordless phones, Bluetooth devices. Get them out of the way. Buy new phones for your neighbor if you have to. - Antenna positioning & replacement. Try another antenna orientation, or if you feel like it, get a different antenna for your router. Directional antennas really help if your SB3 is in a fixed location, but may not help with your Boom. - Bitrate limiting. This should probably be suggestion #2, right after using a wired connection. I know your music is in FLAC format but you may just have to go with 192k MP3, or maybe lower. It's a per-player setting so you don't have to do this everywhere. Despite the rumors, lossy encoding is not the devil. - Wireless repeater/bridge/other creative range extender ideas. Hey, if you have the money... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 suddenly stops connecting after 2 years
Doesn't sound good but I wouldn't give up hope yet. I'd do all my testing using the least complicated possible scenario. In this case, a crossover cable directly from the SB3 to the SqueezeCenter. (Don't use a normal patch cable!) Set both the server and client to static IP's on the same subnet (sounds like you've already done this but bear with me). If you can't get it working like that, you may have yourself a paperweight. If you can, just work your way backwards until you find the problem. Switch your wireless network to an open network, and then try it wireless. Then add the WEP key (or, honestly, switch to WPA if you can...). -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's "FairPlay" DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?
Goodsounds;347814 Wrote: > Maybe we're on the same side of the fence. > > I have no preference for DRM, but I have less affinity for the current > state of affairs. I'd like to see a healthier music business, most of > all for the artists, and I don't care much how it's done. So long as I > can keep that fish off my head. (I have no connection with the music > business whatever, I'm just a lifelong fan). > > Fighting DRM and grousing about it is like shooting the messenger. It's > not the problem, it was simply the first effort to fix the problem. A > poor first effort, for now, for many other reasons we are all familiar > with. > > As I said in an earlier post, come up with an answer and you will > deserve the fame and fortune you will receive. Fair enough. I've already expressed my preference for the legal system, so I'd honestly say I PREFER the **AA's "sue everyone" legal campaign over DRM, because: 1) Unlike DRM, it could theoretically actually stop an act of piracy 2) Unlike DRM, it could have a deterrent effect on future piracy 3) Unlike DRM, it theoretically allows the full range of fair use So basically my answer would be a modification to the "sue everyone" campaign but with some basic preliminary fact-checking before the suit is filed. Now I bet it's my turn to be flamed ;) -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's "FairPlay" DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?
Goodsounds;347811 Wrote: > But we all know what the problem is. What percentage of people's music > collections, and new music acquisitions, are purchased? This percentage > is too low, and this is what needs to be fixed. Sure, but how does DRM solve this problem? Not at all. Seriously, if studio execs started wearing fish on their heads it would have an equal impact on this problem. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's "FairPlay" DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?
Goodsounds;347804 Wrote: > Hey Nick - Baloney. If I pay, everyone else should too, I don't mind > what needs to be done to keep things fair. Maybe what I should learn > from your comment is that mine is a minority view? That's a false choice. Everyone should pay (if that's what the artist/label wants, that is). Nobody's arguing that point. The disagreement is about DRM, which is totally unrelated to the subject of paying. I think the "minority view" that you hold is that you believe DRM is more effective at stopping piracy than wearing a fish on your head. Everyone else thinks they are equally effective against piracy (as in: they aren't), but at least the fish doesn't piss off your legitimate customers. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's "FairPlay" DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?
Goodsounds;347793 Wrote: > We have strong copyright laws now - they have been ineffective against > music piracy. Everyone knows that. Weird. I keep reading stuff like this that makes me think the law is being used to fight piracy in countries with strong copyright laws. Maybe these news articles are wrong? http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5434/is_200804/ai_n25420961 http://www.ifpi.org/content/section_news/20080429.html http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/13516.cfm But I was unable to find any articles indicating that DRM had prevented a single act of piracy from happening somewhere. So when I say that the law fights piracy and DRM does not, I am not saying that the law is a PERFECTLY effective tool--I am just stating that it's the ONLY effective tool. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 suddenly stops connecting after 2 years
Could be limited to wireless. Try it wired and see what happens. If it's just wireless, try your standard channel/placement shuffle to see if maybe something changed in your environment (ie your neighbor's new wireless-N router is clobbering your SB3). If the wireless is truly dead, and you truly need wireless, then you can still buy a wireless bridge and not have to throw the SB3 away. Seriously if it works wired and you want to throw it away, I'll pay the shipping for you to send it to me instead ;) -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53530 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's "FairPlay" DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?
toby10;347729 Wrote: > I completely agree with protecting the artist and record labelI'll > gladly support a DRM scheme to protect the artists and labels as long > as it is not specifically tied to one manufacturer or one source or one > service. But, the thing is, DRM does not protect the artist or record label, strong copyright laws do. Pirates can and will circumvent every DRM scheme created, but you can still prosecute them. That's how the law, not DRM, protects content owners. And because human judges are involved, all sorts of fair use exceptions are protected too...theoretically at least... So as long as we're hypothesizing about the perfect DRM, we have to come to terms with two uncomfortable facts: DRM will always be broken, and DRM doesn't ever actually protect artists and labels. Other than that, though, I don't have a problem with it either ;) -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple's "FairPlay" DRM - Songbird can play it. Why not SqueezeCenter?
andyg;347512 Wrote: > Nothing is stopping anyone from writing a plugin though. Writing a plugin, no. Telling anyone where they can get that plugin, or how to write their own...yes. It's DeCSS T-shirts all over again. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53460 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How many boxes do you have?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53394 Question: How many boxes do you have? - 1 - 2-4 - 6-8 - 8-10 - >10 Jonnio;346631 Wrote: > I am curious how many receivers people have run before they started > running into sync or bandwidth issues. I imagine everyone would run out of useful places to put the boxes long before they started running into bandwidth issues. I have 3 and honestly can't imagine where I'd even put more than 5. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53394 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet with Two Boxes, won't sync properly..?
You may actually be seeing this: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6442 This bug is highly dependent on the format of the music being decoded, so I am currently working around a similar situation in my setup by disabling native decoding and configuring SqueezeCenter to transcode everything to FLAC. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53331 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] If I had bought the SB3 first....
ModelCitizen;346074 Wrote: > The duet took me less than three minutes to set up. It takes me three minutes just to type in my WPA key... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53312 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?
Nonreality;340869 Wrote: > Why run it as a service instead of a login? Just wondering. I use > Spicefly's loader for SC and MusicIp to load it in the right order and > it has always worked perfect. If you use musicip you might want to > give it a try. By the sound of the OP, he (like me) has SC running on a headless server off in a closet somewhere. Having to log in to launch SC is much more of a pain than having it "just work". -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?
pski;340799 Wrote: > So I should choose: music or AV? No, you should just be able to exempt certain filetypes from AV scanning. *.MYI and *.MYD I believe. Certain firewall software has been known to interfere as well. You could disable it temporarily to see the impact. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?
Wow, that's an interesting choice (and not in a good way). You may already know this, but when UAC is enabled, even when you're logged in as an admin, you don't actually have admin access until you go through this "elevation" process (typically via a UAC prompt). If you're trying to run the SqueezeCenter service as an admin account, it may actually be running as a non-elevated admin, which actually has no special privileges at all. So for testing purposes, you could disable UAC (Control Panel/Admin Tasks/Local Security Policy...uhh, I forget...and disable the policy that says "Run all administrators in admin approval mode". If it suddenly works, you have your answer--SqueezeCenter and UAC don't get along. Which is too bad, because I'm one of those freaks who thinks UAC isn't all bad. Anyway, try it out and see. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?
Ahh, sorry. I'm working with Linux here but I have some non-SqueezeCenter Vista experience that may be applicable. Why aren't you running the service with the Local System account (this should be the default)? Do you need a specific set of credentials to access your library? -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] why can't logitech hire someone who can get SC running as a service?
It's been working here for every version since 6.5, including 7.2. Can you provide some more details about your setup? -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52667 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezecenter interface painfully slow... alternatives?
pfarrell;340625 Wrote: > Linux is huge in embedded systems, for example every > Tivo, every Linksys WRT54G router, etc. > > Its simple, the "computer as toaster" folks will never knowingly > install > Linux. They will never choose Linux. To summarize, quite a large section of the population uses Linux without even knowing it every day, and likes it. But they'd never install it. I'd even go so far as to say they'd never install Windows or OSX either. They buy a box, and if that box comes with Windows, Linux, or OSX is pretty much irrelevant. If you are comfortable installing Windows, then I'd say you're already in the minority that's comfortable installing Linux. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
pfarrell;337192 Wrote: > ModelCitizen wrote: > > This could be frightening stuff. > > I'm still not entirely comfortable with a house full of wifi and > little > > children (with associated growing brains). My wife much less so. > > WiFi is microwave. Same stuff. With enough power, it can cook raw > meat. > Its supposed to be safe in low dosages. > > As I said upthread, there is tons of stuff in the 2.4gHz range, from > microwave ovens, WiFi, Bluetooth, ZigBee and others When considering environmental hazards, please always remember that toxicity is a function of dosage, ALWAYS. At a high enough dosage, water is toxic. At a low enough dosage, certain poisons actually have medicinal value. People get excited about wifi because it's "radiation". But remember that the color blue is radiation too. That said, I'm pretty sure my very first microwave magnetized all the knives in the drawer next to it. But that was the kind with the hand dial for setting the time, like a washing machine, and it weighed about 100 pounds. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337064 Wrote: > Yeah, that is always a problem here... we have wood floors, wood walls, > and wood ceiling (no attic). Hubby hates to put new holes in the wood, > so it is very difficult to run cables. Some people here have had luck with power line networking. I have no experience with it so I can't say. Sounds like a plausible solution for you though. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The Microwave effect
MeSue;337035 Wrote: > Has anyone here been able to overcome the problem of microwave ovens > interfering with the wireless signal? Changing channels won't do anything--they interfere all over the spectrum. The ONLY thing you can do is shielding and placement. Newer microwave ovens are better shielded, so simply getting a new oven may help. If you happen to have a nice dense brick wall anywhere, you may be able to contain the EM pollution from the microwave a bit. If you can, move the microwave, player, or router in such a manner that the microwave is nowhere near either wireless device. Or maybe consider a toaster oven. You could also get some Cat5 cable and fix your wireless problems permanently... -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52027 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
