[Elecraft] WA3WSJ: WL2K rig wanted

2007-02-19 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

If anyone has a Yaesu FT-2600M 2m rig or other VHF/UHF rig with a DB-9
Pin port for packet on it and you want to sale it, please email me. I'm
looking for such a rig for a portable WL2K EmComm station.


72,
Ed,WA3WSJ



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[Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Chip Hood
I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to build a K-2 (w/SSB and tuner 
options) compared to a Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to complete, 
troubleshooting, etc.

My last kit was a good while back - an HW-9 with band pack.  I'd like to build 
the K-2 myself but don't want to bite off more than I can handle or have time 
to complete.

Thanks for any input.

73,  KM4AF -- Chip

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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Bayern

Well ... the K2 has a lot of parts, but it is built one part at a time.

Have you downloaded the K2 manual from the Elecraft website? Reading
the manual should give you a good feel for the difficulty in of
building the unit, and the troubleshooting information available.

Of course if you do have a problem that you can't solve, this list is
a great place to get additional troubleshooting help.

Time to build a basic K2? I wish I had spent longer building mine --
the thing is FUN to build!

Mark  AD5SS
K2 s/n 5340
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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread ron

much easier than the heathkit.

You will notice the parts are smaller, has no point to point wiring, 
and almost no mechanical assemblies involved like the tediuos 
assemblies in HW 9. The alignment (for K1) is easier too.


Many find it enjoyable to build and usually sell them so they can 
build another one!


Ron, wb1hga

Chip Hood wrote:

I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to build a K-2 (w/SSB and tuner 
options) compared to a Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to complete, 
troubleshooting, etc.

My last kit was a good while back - an HW-9 with band pack.  I'd like to build 
the K-2 myself but don't want to bite off more than I can handle or have time 
to complete.


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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread David Wilburn
I have not built a Heathkit.   I have a background in electronics, I 
have done plenty of soldering, but I have not built many kits.  The 
directions, the way the parts are stored, and the support makes a big 
difference with this kit.  Plugging components in, soldering them, and 
following the instructions is very simple.  I have been working on my 
kit, off and on since the end of January.  With a wife and three kids, I 
do not always get the time to focus on it that I would like.


There are resistance checks, and test steps along the way.  When 
readings and their suggested values did not completely make since, I 
pulled out the schematic and made sense out of them.


There are three boards in the basic kit, the control board, the front 
panel and the RF board.  The first two went together quickly and easily 
for me.  The only struggle was a back panel mod.  Something that is a 
weakness in my skill set.  I have gotten some great advice from Don and 
Ron on how I can make the task much simpler next time.


Toroids were a bit of a challenge for me.  I have VERY large hands, and 
I had NEVER done toroids before.  None the less I have gotten through 
the first 5 and learned quite a bit.  I get a little better at each one 
I do, thanks to a lot of good advice that has been imparted here.  I do 
not look forward to them, but I can get them done.  Sewing them and 
tinning the ones that stand upright, I have gotten a handle on.  Tinning 
the ones that lay down flat, are still a bit of a trial.


I have learned much in the short time I have worked on the kit.  It 
seems very daunting at first, but like so many tasks in life, when taken 
a bit at a time, all of a sudden you look back and think, wow, I'm 
almost done.


You shouldn't have any trouble with the kit.  Take your time.  If you 
run into troubles, or get confused or frustrated, sit it down and come 
back to it.  If it still gives you trouble ask for advice either 
publicly here on the list, or privately to specific folks.  There is a 
fountain of information here, just waiting for you to take a sip.  Good 
luck.


David Wilburn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K4DGW


Chip Hood wrote:

I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to build a K-2 (w/SSB and tuner 
options) compared to a Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to complete, 
troubleshooting, etc.

My last kit was a good while back - an HW-9 with band pack.  I'd like to build 
the K-2 myself but don't want to bite off more than I can handle or have time 
to complete.

Thanks for any input.

73,  KM4AF -- Chip

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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Tom Zeltwanger
Ron,

I just finished a basic K2. I built it a couple hours at a time over a couple 
months. I will make a wild guess that it took me about 20 hours. This is a real 
rough number, but should give you an idea. Lots of fun and only a couple 
difficult things to do.

The assembly instructions are fabulous, but do watch this list during your 
building, for late breaking issues/changes in the build process.

Good Luck,

Tom KG3V



Quoting ron [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 much easier than the heathkit.
 
 You will notice the parts are smaller, has no point to point wiring, 
 and almost no mechanical assemblies involved like the tediuos 
 assemblies in HW 9. The alignment (for K1) is easier too.
 
 Many find it enjoyable to build and usually sell them so they can 
 build another one!
 
 Ron, wb1hga
 
 Chip Hood wrote:
  I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to build a K-2 (w/SSB and
 tuner options) compared to a Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to complete,
 troubleshooting, etc.
  
  My last kit was a good while back - an HW-9 with band pack.  I'd like to
 build the K-2 myself but don't want to bite off more than I can handle or
 have time to complete.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Gil Stacy

Chris,
I have no experience with Heath Kits, but understand that they were an
important part of amateur radio and electronics history for the masses.
However, there is always one description of some of the Hkit projects,
perhaps an exaggeration , that has always stuck in my mind:  Grief Kits.
g  I have built a K2 and a KX1 and the worse thing about the kit
construction, to me, is finishing.  When done, you want to keep building.
The service and back up support is unrivaled in the industry.  Just this
weekend, Tom Rauch, W8JI, a well-known topband expert and ham electronics
guru, who I don't think is a K2 owner, commented on the Top Band reflector
about K2's.  He marveled at the front end design in one post and the company
support in another.  He had tested an earlier K2 on 160 meters and noticed
that the preamp did not increase sensitivity, but only gain, or something to
that effect.  He sent one email to Elecraft and within days, the problem was
solved and a bulletin went out to all owners and all of the radios were
corrected.  Tom said that would have never happened with  other
manufacturers.
73, Gil NN4CW
K2 3104; KX1 53
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 to antenna Power

2007-02-19 Thread Joe Wilkowski
It is called a Bias T and you will need two of them to accomplish your
goals.  One at the shack end and one at the antenna end.  A sample of a
commercial bias t can be seen here.
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/products.php?prodid=MFJ-4116

Hope this helps..

/joe

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Bob,

That technique is often done to switch relays, so yes it can be used in the
presence of transmit RF voltages.

Basically the way it is done is to capacitor couple the RF to the coax at
both ends (a series capacitor) and feed the DC to the coax through RF Chokes
sized to have at least 10 times the coax impedance at the lowest operating
frequency.  The capacitors must be large enough to have a low impedance at
the operating frequency and their voltage rating must be large enough to
withstand the peak RF voltages present - all with adequate safety factors (3
is usually good) considered.  Note that none of these parameters relate to
the control voltage or current - of course the RF chokes must be able to
handle whatever current is required for the control mechanism.

I do not have a handy reference to a schematic, but that is the 'jist' of
how it is accomplished - the capacitors keep the DC voltage off the
transmitter and the antenna and the RF Chokes keep the RF out of the control
signals.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-
 
 Good evening Elecrafters, may your Monday be a restfull one!

  I would like to send a low voltage limited current up the coax from 
 my K2 to the antenna for powering a small device. What would be the 
 best way to inject this voltage into the antenna feed (coax) at the K2 
 and recovering it up the stack? I was hoping to continue supplying 
 this voltage even while transmitting 100 watts.  I thought that the 
 transverter manuals might have some advice about powering preamps but, 
 not a word.

  Best regards, Bob K7HBG.
 K2# 2836 which Will only be pried from my cold dead fingers 
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[Elecraft] K1 Long Wire Antenna

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Wejcman
Hello to the group,

Sometime ago someone posted a specification for a long wire antenna for use 
with the K1, 80m to 15m.  I remember the length as being 110 feet, but do not 
remember what was stated for the counterpoises.
I have been looking at the elecraft mailing list, but have not found the thread 
I have been looking for.
I would entertain all suggestions for a long wire antenna.
Thank you for consideration of this request.

73,

Jim Wejcman, W0KWU
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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Vic K2VCO

Chip Hood wrote:

I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to build a K-2 (w/SSB
and tuner options) compared to a Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to
complete, troubleshooting, etc.

My last kit was a good while back - an HW-9 with band pack.  I'd like
to build the K-2 myself but don't want to bite off more than I can
handle or have time to complete.


It has more parts, but in many ways it's easier. You don't have to cut 
and strip many wires and almost all of it is stuffing components onto a 
board in precise locations and soldering them.


The technique of soldering is slightly different, but if you have or get 
a temperature-controlled soldering iron with the appropriate tip it will 
be easy to do a good job. You might want to build something smaller as 
practice if you don't have experience with this type of construction.


Winding toroids is easy and non-critical. You should learn how to tin 
the leads properly; this has been a common problem. You can buy the 
toroids pre-wound and tinned, but I would only do that if saving time 
were important.


Troubleshooting is aided greatly by this reflector! Other builders will 
hold your hand until you get it working.


The main thing is to take your time, follow the instructions, and when 
you are not sure of something -- ask.


Also I hope that this doesn't start another thread, but doing the 
inventory at the start as the instructions tell you to helps avoid the 
kind of mistake where you mix up parts; identifying parts can be tricky. 
It does not take extra time to do the inventory because then you don't 
have to search for each part as you need it!


I built mine a number of years ago so I've forgotten howlong it took!
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Bob Baxter

--- Chip Hood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to
 build a K-2 (w/SSB and tuner options) compared to a
 Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to complete,
 troubleshooting, etc.
 
It's been a while since I built an HW9 and the little
grey cells seem to be getting away from me in my
dotage, but I don't remember any greater degree of
difficulty building the K2 over the HW9.  It took me
about 40 hours to build the basic K2--I'm kinda slow. 
With the HW9 I had to find someone to borrow a freq
meter from to align it, the K2 only requires a DMM. 
Also, with the HW9, I didn't have an email list to
bail me out of my dumb mistakes.  All things
considered, I'd rather do a K2.

Bob Baxter aa7eq
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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Fred (FL)
Hi -
The beauty of building the Elecraft K2, as compared to
the many Heakkit kits they sold - there is no wires,
or point-to-point wiring and bundled cables - like one
often found in various places in Heathkits.  I think I
built 6 or more Heathkits.  They all worked - very
little if any alignment was possible.  The Elecraft
K2 is just beautifully layed out - everything in its
place.  You finish one board, and it naturally plugs
into the next, and the next.  Just a matter of
carefully soldering all the parts into the 4 or 5 pcb
boards.  

The only thing one must be careful with, on a K2, is
to carefully solder with the correct Kester solder,
and a good temperature soldering-station, and to
carefully read the manual instructions - as you go
along.  After 2 hours of building and soldering, it
is best to put it aside, for the next day.

What did I do wrong in my K2:  I soldered a main
dual-row jack, on the wrong side of the main RF board.
I dropped the LCD on a hard tile floor and
caused me to have to buy another.  And I mistakenly
folder-over 1 pin on a 14-pin dual-inline IC, where
1 pin was folder under the IC - not thru the hole.

In each case - Elecraft's parts department, and the
Elecraft email list of experts - lead me thru those
3 mistakes.  Oh yes - a inexpensive SOLDER SUCKER
tool - is an absolute tool to buy.  (like $10)

What I did do very well - was solder parts, a skill
I got quite good at - with all my previous Heathkit
experience.  And I built 3 boats in the past - because
of good mechanical skills I was born with.

Fred, N3CSY


 

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RE: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Chris,

I have built a HW8 (30 yrs ago), a K2 (2006) and several other kits and
projects during my ham life.
The K2 is just as easy to build as a HW8. Just follow the instructions
and take your time. As for engineering, I was most impressed by the K2
kit. No long wire cables atc. 
I loved building the K2 and it was just as easy to align as the HW8.

Building is smooth and I say it again, take your time, don't be hasty,
check every box on the page of the manual after you have done something.
Checking the box on the page will take your eyes off the K2 for a moment
and that really helped me to avoid mistakes. Also, if you have patience,
you will be rewarded. If you go to fast, you will make mistakes.

Good luck.

73
Arie PA3A



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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9


I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to build a K-2 (w/SSB and
tuner options) compared to a Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to
complete, troubleshooting, etc.

My last kit was a good while back - an HW-9 with band pack.  I'd like to
build the K-2 myself but don't want to bite off more than I can handle
or have time to complete.

Thanks for any input.

73,  KM4AF -- Chip

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[QRP-L] ANNOUNCEMENT: QRP-ARCI GRID SQUARE SPRINT

2007-02-19 Thread Jeff Hetherington
Hi everybody!
Wanted to give everybody some advance notice of our
next contest. This contest is BRAND NEW and a contest
format that was suggested by QRP-ARCI Members.

However, since it was new, it missed the deadline for
QST. Please feel free to publish it to any lists you
may be members of.

The exchange as printed in the QQ also featured a
small gremlin, and the correct rules including the
exchange is posted on the right hand side of the
QRP-ARCI homepage along with all of the other contests
for 2007. The correct rules are also posted below.

Good Luck!
73/72
Jeff - VA3JFF

-

Date/Time:

1500Z to 1800Z on 18 March 2007.

Mode:

HF CW only.

Exchange:

Members send: RST, Grid Square, ARCI member number
Non-Members send: RST, Grid Square, Power Out

QSO Points:

Member = 5 points
Non-Member, Different Continent = 4 points
Non-Member, Same Continent = 2 points

Multiplier:

Grid Square total for all bands. The same station may
be worked on multiple bands for QSO points and SPC
credit.

POWER MULTIPLIER: 

5 Watts = x1
1 - 5 Watts = x7
250 mW - 1 Watt = x10
55 mW - 250 mW = x15
55 mW or less = x20

SUGGESTED FREQUENCIES:

160m 1810 kHz
80m 3560 kHz
40m 7030 kHz (please listen at 7040 kHz for rock bound
participants)
20m 14060 kHz
15m 21060 kHz
10m 28060 kHz

BONUS POINTS:

If you are operating PORTABLE using battery power AND
a temporary antenna, add 5000 points to your final
score. (You can NOT be at your shack operating from
battery power using your home station antenna to
qualify for this bonus.) This is to help level the
playing field for contesters who work from the field
against contest stations with 5 element yagis at 70
ft.

Score:

Final Score = Points (total for all bands) x Grid
Squares (total for all bands) x Power Multiplier +
Bonus Points


Categories:

Entry may be All-Band, Single Band, High Bands
(10m-15m-20m) or Low Bands (40m-80m)

How to Participate:

Get on any of the HF bands except the WARC bands and
hang out near the QRP frequencies. Work as many
stations calling CQ QRP or CQ TEST as possible, or
call CQ QRP or CQ TEST yourself! You can work a
station for credit once on each band.

Email Log Submission:

Submit Logs in plain text format along with a summary
stating your Callsign, Entry Category, Actual Power
and Station Description along with score calculation
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] on or before 5 March 2006.

Snail mail Log Submission:

Submit Logs along with a summary stating your
Callsign, Entry Category, Actual Power and Station
Description along with score calculation to:

QRP-ARCI Grid Square Sprint
c/o Jeff Hetherington, VA3JFF
139 Elizabeth St. W.
Welland, Ontario
Canada L3C 4M3

Entries must be postmarked on or before 18 April 2007.

Results:

Will be published in QRP Quarterly and shown on the
QRP-ARCI website.

Certificates:

Will be awarded to the top scoring entrant in each
category. Certificates may be awarded for 2nd and 3rd
place if entries are sufficient in a category.


=
L. Jeffrey Hetherington - VA3JFF
  QRP-ARCI (sm) Contest Manager
QRP-ARCI (sm) #9223 / K2 #3375 / KX1 #631

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Re: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9

2007-02-19 Thread Jeff Kinzli

I agree with Arie, the K2 is not a technically challenging build. The
fact that the build is broken up into many smaller steps really helps
make it easy to sit down, work on it for a couple hours, then go and
do something else.

The engineering that went into this, and attention to detail, is superb.

Lastly, the support here on this reflector is second to none, everyone
is extremely helpful and there's a wide range of knowledge here.

The only thing you need to build this kit is a very elemental
electronics knowledge (identifying parts, mostly), some basic
soldering skills (a quality soldering station will help immensely, as
will decent fine tips), and attention to details.

You'll enjoy it!

Jeff KA6LAF

On 2/19/07, Arie Kleingeld PA3A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris,

I have built a HW8 (30 yrs ago), a K2 (2006) and several other kits and
projects during my ham life.
The K2 is just as easy to build as a HW8. Just follow the instructions
and take your time. As for engineering, I was most impressed by the K2
kit. No long wire cables atc.
I loved building the K2 and it was just as easy to align as the HW8.

Building is smooth and I say it again, take your time, don't be hasty,
check every box on the page of the manual after you have done something.
Checking the box on the page will take your eyes off the K2 for a moment
and that really helped me to avoid mistakes. Also, if you have patience,
you will be rewarded. If you go to fast, you will make mistakes.

Good luck.

73
Arie PA3A



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Chip Hood
Verzonden: maandag 19 februari 2007 14:33
Aan: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: [Elecraft] building a K-2 compared to HW-9


I am trying to get a feel for the difficulty to build a K-2 (w/SSB and
tuner options) compared to a Heathkit HW-9:  difficulty, time to
complete, troubleshooting, etc.

My last kit was a good while back - an HW-9 with band pack.  I'd like to
build the K-2 myself but don't want to bite off more than I can handle
or have time to complete.

Thanks for any input.

73,  KM4AF -- Chip

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[Elecraft] TR speed and receiver settling

2007-02-19 Thread Jeff Kinzli

I'm not quite sure how to ask this, and perhaps it's covered somewhere
else (again, not knowing how to ask leaves me having trouble finding
it in the archives) :)

Anyhow, in a fast paced contest such as this weekend's ARRL DX CW, I
found myself wishing that the time between finishing transmitting and
the time when the receiver settles to be faster.

I.e. I send my call, and before I the audio comes back to normal
levels, the other station is partially into repeating my call. I tried
changing the TR values in the menu, but that didn't really change
things. I also tried reducing sidetone volume significantly, thinking
that might help, but it didn't really help much.

Again, apologies for not knowing the technical jargon to describe
this, but hopefully I've given enough info to get the point across.

So, is there a knob somewhere, or something I could adjust to achieve
what I'm looking for?

Thanks for any thoughts,

Jeff KA6LAF

PS: Love this radio, the DSP was a life saver for weak signals this
last weekend. I worked stuff that I couldn't have copied without the
DSP. Bravo!
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[Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi All,

Just spent this past weekend in the ARRL International
DX Contest (CW) with my K2.  I haven't spent more than
a few minutes in front of it despite getting it back
in August '06 so this was a good opportunity to become
acquainted with it.

Previous transceivers I have owned were an HW-101,
Icom 706 MkIIG, Yaesu FT-857D, and a KX1.  As a
contest rig, in my limited experience my K2 leaves the
Icom and Yaesu far behind as an easy to use
transceiver.  However, the time spent with it this
weekend naturally leads to a list of likes and wish
list items for future products so here goes:

Filters - Absolutely lovely.  Better than the optional
filters I added to my Icom 706 and my Yaesu 857D.  I
only wish there were UP and DOWN buttons to select
them, like the Band select buttons.  Yeah, I know
there are only 4 filters!

DSP - I kept it on throughout the contest and loved
the way even weak signals popped up out of an
almost-silent background.  It eliminates the noise
from my notebook computer's charger and greatly
reduces listening fatigue.  However, I'm still
struggling with the controls and I've yet to find the
real time clock.

RIT - In my entire 33-year ham career I have never
felt the need for RIT (and XIT even less).  Not
exactly a complaint (it's probably just me) but to me
the RIT control takes up a lot of real estate on a
cramped front panel.  Make the RIT control an encoder
(if it isn’t already) and then you can have it do any
number of other cool adjustments at the press of a
button (I’d put the keyer speed control on there if it
was me and make some room on the front panel).

AF Gain/RF Gain/Speed/Power Controls - Way too close
together.  I found the best way to use them was to
push directly on the end of the knob with my fingertip
and turn it that way, rather than trying to grasp the
knob.  How about putting AF/RF Gain to the left of the
tuning knob and Speed  Power to the right?  (also see
the above RIT comment)

Display - OK, as far as it goes.  I'd take out the
bargraph S-Meter and expand the LCD display to fill
the space.  Use a dot matrix LCD and run a bargraph
S-meter along the bottom of the LCD display.  A dot
matrix LCD gives you tons of flexibility to show
additional information, like the status of many of the
controls such as DSP (if installed) and filter
selections.

Tune Button – How about making it so that hitting Tune
automatically reduces transmitter output to just a few
watts for the tune operation, then returns the K2 back
to it’s previously set output when tuning is complete?

I was using the N1MM Logger software and a MicroHam
Winkey-based keyer so hands-on control of the K2 was
limited to mostly tuning and filter selection.  N1MM
Logger and the K2 get along very well together.  I
can't comment on the K2's keyer.

Hope this is of some interest.

73,

Ken Alexander, VE3HLS

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Re: [Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Bayern

Tune Button – How about making it so that hitting Tune
automatically reduces transmitter output to just a few
watts for the tune operation, then returns the K2 back
to it's previously set output when tuning is complete?


Running an Elecraft tuner? The K2/100 drops down to 20 watts when
running the KAT100 tuner, and the K2 drops down to about 2 watts when
tuning with the KAT2.

If your K2 doesn't reduce power, you might need to check your firmware version.

Mark  AD5SS
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Re: [Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Mark and Leigh,

I'm using an Elecraft T-1 external tuner, which I also
use (less and less) with an FT-817.  It would still be
a nice feature for those who use an external tuner.  I
didn't know about its ability to reduce power for
internal tuner operation because I don't have one.  

I wonder if that's something the tuner instructs the
K2 to do?  If it's internal to the K2 then it would be
a neat fuction to be able to turn on and off for
external tuner use.

73 - Ken


--- Mark Bayern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Tune Button – How about making it so that hitting
 Tune
  automatically reduces transmitter output to just a
 few
  watts for the tune operation, then returns the K2
 back
  to it's previously set output when tuning is
 complete?
 
 Running an Elecraft tuner? The K2/100 drops down to
 20 watts when
 running the KAT100 tuner, and the K2 drops down to
 about 2 watts when
 tuning with the KAT2.
 
 If your K2 doesn't reduce power, you might need to
 check your firmware version.
 
 Mark  AD5SS
 

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Re: [Elecraft] TR speed and receiver settling

2007-02-19 Thread Ken Alexander
There must be, and somebody more knowledgeable than me
is bound to jump in and tell you how to set it up! 
8-)

I found that my K2 (without me doing anything) was set
up for what I would consider to be full break-in,
i.e., I could receive between each of the dits and
dahs I was sending!  It's a bit disconcerting at
first, but I appreciated having it so I could hit the
Escape key and stop sending my call a second time when
I could hear the DX station transmitting.

73 - Ken


--- Jeff Kinzli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not quite sure how to ask this, and perhaps it's
 covered somewhere
 else (again, not knowing how to ask leaves me having
 trouble finding
 it in the archives) :)
 
 Anyhow, in a fast paced contest such as this
 weekend's ARRL DX CW, I
 found myself wishing that the time between finishing
 transmitting and
 the time when the receiver settles to be faster.
 
 I.e. I send my call, and before I the audio comes
 back to normal
 levels, the other station is partially into
 repeating my call. I tried
 changing the TR values in the menu, but that didn't
 really change
 things. I also tried reducing sidetone volume
 significantly, thinking
 that might help, but it didn't really help much.
 
 Again, apologies for not knowing the technical
 jargon to describe
 this, but hopefully I've given enough info to get
 the point across.
 
 So, is there a knob somewhere, or something I could
 adjust to achieve
 what I'm looking for?
 
 Thanks for any thoughts,
 
 Jeff KA6LAF
 
 PS: Love this radio, the DSP was a life saver for
 weak signals this
 last weekend. I worked stuff that I couldn't have
 copied without the
 DSP. Bravo!
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[Elecraft] KX1 Morse Memories - Suggestion

2007-02-19 Thread Martin Gillen

Hi,

I've been finding that the keyer memories in the KX1 are a bit too
small for my basic CQ call when I'm pedestrian mobile.  I'd like to be
able to call CQ CQ CQ CQ CQ CQ DE VA3SIE/PM VA3SIE/PM K.  Sometimes
when conditions are poor maybe another 3 or 4 CQs too!  I have to
resort to loading the CQ calls in one memory and the DE VA3SIE part
in the other, which usually means there's a bit of a pause in my CQ
call.

I suggest that it would be a really nice and simple(?) feature to be
able to chain the two memories together so that the KX1 would send the
contents of the first memory and then the contents of the second, (and
repeat if so requested).

This could be signalled by the user by a double press of the memory button, eg.

Current behaviour:

Quickly Press 'A', 'B' - Send first memory.
Quickly Press 'A', 'C' - Send second memory.
Quickly Press 'A', Long press 'B' - Send first memory  repeat.
Quickly Press 'A', Long press 'C' - Send second memory  repeat.

Additional commands:

Quickly Press 'A', 'B', 'B' - Send first memory then second memory.
Quickly Press 'A', 'C', 'C' - Send second memory then first memory.
Quickly Press 'A', 'B', Long press 'B' - Send first memory then second
memory  repeat.
Quickly Press 'A', 'C', Long press 'C' - Send second memory then first
memory  repeat.

I expect the firmware is pretty cramped already though, but I can dream :)

Or maybe I just missed it in the instructions?  I must say I had
missed the beacon mode before and was that ever a nice surprise when
I stumbled on it!

73,
Martin.
VA3SIE.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Morse Memories - Suggestion

2007-02-19 Thread sergio t. ruiz

Martin Gillen wrote:

Hi,

I've been finding that the keyer memories in the KX1 are a bit too
small for my basic CQ call when I'm pedestrian mobile.  I'd like to be


i have to ask...

what kind of antenna do you use for pedestrian mobile?
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RE: [Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken,

The power reduction algorithm is in the K2 firmware, but it is not active
unless the KAT2, KAT100 or KPA100 are installed.  It would take a firmware
change to limit the power with all TUNE operations, and those of us who
repair and align K2s would miss the ability to dial in any power level with
those options removed, but I guess we could get along if TUNE limited the
power all the time.  To further complicate matters, several of the manual
Alignment and Test procedures and the Troubleshooting section would have to
be changed as well.

I do not believe Wayne Burdick has time available to change the firmware
right now, but he may be willing to add it to the 'wish list' for the next
firmware upgrade.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 Hi Mark and Leigh,

 I'm using an Elecraft T-1 external tuner, which I also
 use (less and less) with an FT-817.  It would still be
 a nice feature for those who use an external tuner.  I
 didn't know about its ability to reduce power for
 internal tuner operation because I don't have one.

 I wonder if that's something the tuner instructs the
 K2 to do?  If it's internal to the K2 then it would be
 a neat fuction to be able to turn on and off for
 external tuner use.

 73 - Ken


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RE: [Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Ken Alexander
Hi Don,

Yeah, it's strictly a wish list item...far from a deal
breaker.  I turned the power way down during the
contest when I was changing bands and didn't want any
Hi Current messages popping up.  I was also intersted
to see how little power was required for the T-1 to
work.  

Naturally, there were several occasions where I forgot
to turn the power back up to 5W, and on those
occasions I actually made a few contacts with 1 watt
or maybe even a little less!  I kicked myself for
forgetting, but I was also mightily impressed that I'd
managed to cross the Atlantic with so little!

73 - Ken

P.S.  If it requires one of the tuners to be
connected, do you think that a properly installed
jumper or a few components would trick the K2 into
thinking a tuner had been installed?  Just curious.




--- Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ken,
 
 The power reduction algorithm is in the K2 firmware,
 but it is not active
 unless the KAT2, KAT100 or KPA100 are installed.  It
 would take a firmware
 change to limit the power with all TUNE operations,
 and those of us who
 repair and align K2s would miss the ability to dial
 in any power level with
 those options removed, but I guess we could get
 along if TUNE limited the
 power all the time.  To further complicate matters,
 several of the manual
 Alignment and Test procedures and the
 Troubleshooting section would have to
 be changed as well.
 
 I do not believe Wayne Burdick has time available to
 change the firmware
 right now, but he may be willing to add it to the
 'wish list' for the next
 firmware upgrade.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
  -Original Message-
 
  Hi Mark and Leigh,
 
  I'm using an Elecraft T-1 external tuner, which I
 also
  use (less and less) with an FT-817.  It would
 still be
  a nice feature for those who use an external
 tuner.  I
  didn't know about its ability to reduce power for
  internal tuner operation because I don't have one.
 
  I wonder if that's something the tuner instructs
 the
  K2 to do?  If it's internal to the K2 then it
 would be
  a neat fuction to be able to turn on and off for
  external tuner use.
 
  73 - Ken
 
 
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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Feb 21 - Mar 22, 2007

2007-02-19 Thread Ken Newman


~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR
February 21 - March 22, 2007
~
80 METER FOXHUNT (QRP CW)
EST/EDST: EACH Tuesday 9 PM to 10:29 PM
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~
40 METER FOXHUNT (QRP CW)
EST/EDST: EACH Thursday 9 PM to 10:29 PM
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/
~~
North Carolina Road Kill Round Up (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
EST: Feb 21, 9:30PM - 11:00PM
UTC: Feb 22, 02:30z - 04:00z
Rules: http://ncroadkillroundup.homestead.com/index.html
~
CQ WW 160-Meter DX Contest (SSB) ... QRP Category
Feb 24, z to Feb 25, 2359z
Rules: http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
~
REF (French) SSB Contest
Feb 24, 0600z to Feb 25, 1800z
Rules: http://www.sk3bg.se/contest/refc.htm
~
UBA DX Contest - Belgium (CW) ... QRP Category
Feb 24, 1300z to Feb 25, 1300z
Rules: http://www.uba.be/hf_contests/pdf/ubatest_dx.pdf
~
Mississippi QSO Party (Ph/CW)
Feb 24, 1500z to Feb 25, 0300z
Rules: http://www.arrlmiss.org
~
Colorado QRP Club Winter QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... QRP Contest!
Feb 24, 2200z to Feb 25, 0359z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/months/feb.html
~
High Speed CW Club Contest ... QRP Category
Feb 25, 0900z to 1100z and 1500z to 1700z
Rules: http://www.dl3bzz.de/html/hscconte.html
~
North Carolina QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... 100W all QSOs
Feb 25, 1700z to Feb 26, 0300z
Rules: http://www.w4nc.com
~
ARRL International DX Contest (SSB) ... QRP Category
Mar 3, z to Mar 4, 2400z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2007
~
Wake-Up! QRP Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Mar 3, 0400z to 0600z
Rules: http://www.qrp.ru/sprint_e.htm
~
Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) ... QRP Contest!
Mar 6, 0200z to 0400z (First Monday 9 PM EST)
Rules: http://www.arsqrp.com/
~
Pesky Texan Armadillo Chase (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
CST: Mar 7, 2030 to 2200
UTC: Mar 8, 0230z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.w5usj.com/default.html
~
***
Daylight saving starts Mar 11 - 0200 AM
***
~
Idaho QSO Party (Ph/CW/Dig) ... QRP Category
Mar 10, 1300z to Mar 11, 0100z and
Mar 11, 1300z to Mar 12, 0100z
Rules: http://www.nt4tt.com/main_page_link/nt4tt.htm
~
Oklahoma QSO Party (CW/Digital/Phone) ... QRP Category
Mar 10, 1400z to Mar 11, 0200z and
Mar 11, 1400z to Mar 11, 2000z
Rules: http://okdxa.org
~
AGCW QRP Contest (CW) ... QRP/QRPp Category
Mar 10, 1400z to 2000z
Rules: http://www.agcw.org/agcw-con/2007/Englisch/agcw_qrp_e.htm
~
?Elecraft QSO Party (CW/SSB/Dig)  ...QRP Category
Mar 10, 1500z to Mar 11, 1500z
Rules: http://www.elecraft.com
~
?Second Class Operator's Club Marathon Sprint (CW) .. QRP Contest!
Mar 10, 1800z to 2400z
Rules: http://www.qsl.net/soc/contests.htm
~
North American Sprint (RTTY) ... QRP Category
Mar 11, z to 0400z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/sprintrules.php
~
UBA (Belgian) Spring Contest (CW-80m) ... QRP Category
Mar 11, 0700z to 1100z
Rules: http://www.uba.be/hf_contests/rules_en.html#
~
Wisconsin QSO Party (CW/SSB)...QRP Category
Mar 11, 1800z to Mar 12, 0100z
Rules: http://www.warac.org/index.htm
~
Ten-Ten Mobile QSO Party (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Mar 17, 0001z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.ten-ten.org/calendar.html
~
BARTG Spring RTTY Contest
Mar 17, 0200z to Mar 19, 0200z
Rules: http://www.bartg.demon.co.uk/Contests/07_rules.htm
~
Russian DX Contest (SSB/CW) ... QRP Category
Mar 17, 1200z to 

R: [Elecraft] Pedestrian Mobile Antenna

2007-02-19 Thread paolo gramigna
 Hi,
My KX-1 has the internal tuner option. What I have for antenna is a 24 feet
length of small wire, plus another 15 feet as a counterpoise. I attach a big
bolt (actually a nut) to the wire ant throw it up a tree, ten toss the
counterpoise in the opposite direction. I have a tiny paddle connected to
the right side of the KX-1 with a strip of Velcro, see :
http://www.mtechnologies.com/palm/index.htm and a pack of 8 L91 Lithium
batteries, giving me nearly 3AH at about 13V with a weight that's only 50%
than alkaline. My headset comes from an Ipod, and it's the kind that you put
inside your ears giving some acoustical insulation from the local noise. All
that stuff fits nicely on one of my vest's pockets.
After finishing my QSO, I pull down the wire and away we go. If the wire is
stuck in the tree I'll leave it there and it will be good again tomorrow...
And I have a spare one with me. I can easily connect all of Europe (from
Italy) since that kind of wire works as a NVIS antenna, if you keep it on a
slope, at least on 30 and 40 meters (I have that 3080 option too...)

Never got so much fun. The only drawback, if I fail to spread some QSL
around me, and maybe a copy or two of QST, usually after some little time a
Carabinieri Patrol pops up, politely asking me what I'm doing there with
black boxes and dangling wires Not a big problem, if it wasn't for the
couple of Snipers that usually I can see lurking from behind a black van,
targeting my brains on a Riflescope. I'm seriously considering to bring a
big flag with me, explaining what's my purpose in advance.

Cheers,
IK4YNG Paolo

 

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what kind of antenna do you use for pedestrian mobile?
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[Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread wsm
Hi
This is a little off topic, but I don't know of a better place to
find someone that would know the answer to my question.
Many years ago I used one coax to feed three different inverted V
antennas all for different bands. At the time I thought they worked
just fine. Worked all kinds of dx with the setup. I have been told
lately that the unused antennas on the setup would pick up additional
noise. 
Has anyone ever done any testing with multiple antennas on one
feedline to see if they really do pick up extra noise?
I'm thinking about putting up new inverted V antennas on 160, 80, and
40 meters and feeding them with one coax. Sure beats antenna
switching and it always seem to me that the signal would go to the 
resonate antenna. I always used a coaxial balun in the feedline.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks
Scott N5SM 

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[Elecraft] Re:Newbie question :160M module

2007-02-19 Thread lhw2
Hello everyone,
On the 160M module, toroid L1 .I managed to burn off just a little too much 
enamel insulator from 26ga. wire.Bare copper into the 1st 1/2 turn on 
the toroid.
Am I o.k.?   Or should I rewind?
Tnx 
from new guy ,just starting out.
W1EGJ
Larry Wright
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Re: R: [Elecraft] Pedestrian Mobile Antenna

2007-02-19 Thread Martin Gillen

Hi, Sergio/Paolo.

Sergio asked:


what kind of antenna do you use for pedestrian mobile?


You can find full details of my pedestrian mobile antenna here:

http://web.ncf.ca/fj620/contests/fybo2007/

Paolo Said:


What I have for antenna is a 24 feet length of small wire, plus another 15 feet 
as a counterpoise.


Yes, me too, that's always in my backpack... I use an elastic band
between the end of the wire and the weight because it's usually the
weight which gets caught when I try to pull the wire back out of the
tree.  I've had a lot of fun making contact with this simple Elecraft
Recommended antenna :)

You're right about those ipod-style headphones too, I use Sony
Fontopia earbuds which are the same design and I love them.

What kind of antenna do you use for the 80m option, Paolo?  I use a
135ft dipole with light twinlead feeder but it only works on 80m, no
40/30/20, so I'm going to try an OCF dipole for all KX1 bands soon.


if it wasn't for the couple of Snipers that usually I can see lurking from 
behind a black van,

targeting my brains on a Riflescope

Yikes!!  I never had THAT experience (yet?)  The closest I came was
sitting in a park around midnight, totally in the dark, using the
little white LED for logging, and a couple of police on bicycles
stopped by to see what I was up to.  I was really glad that my antenna
wire was almost vertical straight up from my camp chair to the tree,
so those police did not catch the wire in their bike wheels!

I hooked up a speaker and they were pleased to listen to me make a CW contact :)

73  Good luck with the brains targeting scope :(
Martin.
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Re: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread Ken Kopp

Yes, you CAN put multiple dipoles on one feedline.
It's commonly done in the government and/or commercial
world.  It's often referred to as a fan dipole.  The feedline
can be either coax or open wire/TV twinlead.

Picture two telephone poles (or towers) with the support
points for the individual dipoles several feet apart vertically
along the two poles/towers.

Such an arrangement is sometimes seen at a National Guard
armory or Civil Defense center.

The dipoles -DO- interact and will need length adjustment,
one at a time

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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RE: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread Craig Rairdin
I happen to have pictures of just such a beast at
http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=35. It's cut for
40/20/10 meters and works nicely on 15 of course. The KAT100 tuner makes it
work on the WARC bands and even on 80m though not very well. 

Craig
NZ0R
K2/100 #4941
K1 #1966
KX1 #1499

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Yes, you CAN put multiple dipoles on one feedline.
It's commonly done in the government and/or commercial
world.  It's often referred to as a fan dipole.  The feedline
can be either coax or open wire/TV twinlead.

Picture two telephone poles (or towers) with the support
points for the individual dipoles several feet apart vertically
along the two poles/towers.

Such an arrangement is sometimes seen at a National Guard
armory or Civil Defense center.

The dipoles -DO- interact and will need length adjustment,
one at a time

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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RE: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Scott,

I use 'fanned dipoles' fed with a common coax - yes a balun is highly
recommended.

The secret to fanned dipoles is to get the ends as far apart as possible so
they do not interact.  Expect some interaction in any case, and tune them
from the lowest band first.

I have tried 5 bands - in a word, DON'T, unless you are willing to drive
yourself crazy cutting and pruning due to the interaction.  3 bands is about
my limit.

One other point - do not try to combind bands that are close to the 3rd
harmonic of the lower one on the same coax - that too will drive you crazy
trying to tune them because the 3rd harminic frequency antenna will also
present a low impedance feedpoint.  In other words, stay away from combining
80 and 30 meters or 40 meter and 15 meters.

I successfully use an 80/40 meter combination, a 20/15/10 combination and a
30/17/12 combination - 3 feedlines to cover 8 bands.  Some are dipoles and
others are inverted VEE.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-


 Hi
 This is a little off topic, but I don't know of a better place to
 find someone that would know the answer to my question.
 Many years ago I used one coax to feed three different inverted V
 antennas all for different bands. At the time I thought they worked
 just fine. Worked all kinds of dx with the setup. I have been told
 lately that the unused antennas on the setup would pick up additional
 noise.
 Has anyone ever done any testing with multiple antennas on one
 feedline to see if they really do pick up extra noise?
 I'm thinking about putting up new inverted V antennas on 160, 80, and
 40 meters and feeding them with one coax. Sure beats antenna
 switching and it always seem to me that the signal would go to the
 resonate antenna. I always used a coaxial balun in the feedline.
 Any ideas would be appreciated.
 Thanks
 Scott N5SM

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RE: [Elecraft] Re:Newbie question :160M module

2007-02-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Larry,

The toroid cores are non-conductive, so if the bare wire of the end turn is
tinned it is not a problem, BUT if you also bared the wire of an adjacent
turn so you could have a one turn shorted to another on the winding, that is
not good and you will have to rewind.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 Hello everyone,
 On the 160M module, toroid L1 .I managed to burn off just a
 little too much enamel insulator from 26ga. wire.Bare
 copper into the 1st 1/2 turn on the toroid.
 Am I o.k.?   Or should I rewind?
 Tnx
 from new guy ,just starting out.
 W1EGJ
 Larry Wright
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[Elecraft] K2 Short while building

2007-02-19 Thread Timothy Vogan
Boy I got a problem know. While building #006013 at alignment and test, part 11 
i've had a problem with first step the counter changing rapidly. checked prob, 
and solder and parts . get a 4 MHz signal on a receiver at 4.000 MHz While 
checking VDC on control board Q1 - U7 I must have shorted out somthing. Now 
Ihave no light or any thing on LCD relays do not click when i push band or mode 
switches . Any thoughts on what i might have shorted out and how to check it?  
Thanks Tim


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[Elecraft] KX1 ATU low power indication

2007-02-19 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk

Hi all,

Does anyone have any idea about the possible cause of the low power 
reading by the KX1 ATU?


Thanks,

Frank


Hi,

After having been off the air for about a year (moving house; other
interests) I have recently fired up my KX1 again. When tuning up a
random length of wire, I noticed that the output power indicated by the
KX1 ATU was only 0.4 to 0.5 Watts (while SWR was good: 1:1.0 to 1:1.1).
I attached a 50 ohm dummy load and hooked up my oscilloscope and saw a
nice 24V peak-to-peak voltage on key down. That's 1.4 Watts and IIRC not
bad for a battery-powered KX1 (battery voltage indicated by the KX1:
8.5V on receive, 8.4V on transmit).

Why then the low power indication by the ATU?

I have already taken the unit apart and have resoldered all solder
joints on the ATU PCB, but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

73 de PA4N



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[Elecraft] K2 and Airmail2000

2007-02-19 Thread Steven Pituch
Hi all,
I love my K2, and need to use it for ecomm work if ever there is an
emgergency down here.  It is a good excuse to bring it to the EOC, so it
doesn't dissappear when the island I live on dissappears in the next
Katrina.  I have finally gotten on HF Pactor I with my K2.  This endeavor
has taken me a year to accomplish.  I have my notes below if anyone else is
interested.  It ends up being just like any other digital mode but the setup
is a little more complicated.
 
Pactor I on PK-232/mbx/vers.7.1 for Electraft K2:

1)  Com2 is Gold-x USB to serial converter on rear bottom USB slot.
This goes to the K2 for CAT support in Airmail.  In the PC, the parameters
should be: 8,N,2, 4800 (control panel, XP).

2)  In Airmail the parameters to communicate with K2 are: 8 data bits,
parity none, 2 stop bits, baud rate is 4800.

3)  Com1 is the Sakar International Iconcepts USB to serial converter
rear top USB slot.  This goes to the PK-232.  In the PC (control panel for
XP), the parameters should be 8,N,1,9600 (this is against the recommendation
in the PK-232 manual, which states 7,E,1).

4)  The PK-232 JP-1 pin should be removed so the unit will auto baud on
startup.  It is next to the battery.  On this model (ser. 20987) the cover
must be removed to access it.

5)  In Airmail set the Modem to PK-232, Port to Com1, and baud rate to
9600.  For radio connection choose “direct via Com port”, “Com2”, and baud
equal to 4800, and radio type equal Kenwood.  Also check “lock” radio.  For
audio tone check “LSB”.  The center frequency defaults to 2210, which can
not be changed for the PK-232.

6)  Set the K2 to 50 Watts (with external fan), put the meter in ALC
mode, and set the mode to RTTY.  This mode is LSB but there is no speech
compression.  The K2 IF filters for RTTY mode have been set up for Pactor I.
The filters are centered about 2210 Hz, which is what the PK-232 sends.  FL2
has been tested and works well (about 1290 Hz).

7)  The afsk setting at the rear of the PK-232 case should be set just
high enough to achieve proper output when connected to a dummy load.  No
more than two bars should show on the ALC.  This setting should only need to
be done once.

8)  To operate set AGC to fast, (AirMail should do this for you but
check).

9)  Airmail will default to LSB, so manually select RTTY mode, and then
select the second filter “FL2”.  Airmail will tune the K2 to the exact
frequency.

 Regards,
Steve, W2MY
Corpus Christi

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Re: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread Phil Kane
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 22:41:24 -, Ken Kopp wrote:

Picture two telephone poles (or towers) with the support
points for the individual dipoles several feet apart vertically
along the two poles/towers.

Such an arrangement is sometimes seen at a National Guard
armory or Civil Defense center.

  A lot of them have been replaced by the now-ubiquitous BW All
  Band Folded Dipole - the same antenna that I use in an open-V
  configuration.  It works equally flat over the HF (1.8-30 MHz)
  spectrum.

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Re: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread Vic K2VCO

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Has anyone ever done any testing with multiple antennas on one
feedline to see if they really do pick up extra noise?


Hm, nobody answered this. My feeling (and it's not based on experiments) 
is that it would normally not be a problem. For example, if you have an 
80 and 160 meter dipole on one feedline, then the unused antenna would 
be just as likely to pick up additional signals on the desired band as 
it would noise.  So while it might have a tiny bit more gain, the s/n 
ratio wouldn't change.


Having said that, the total signal and noise voltage delivered to the 
receiver front end would be greater, since the bandwidth of the 
combination of antennas would be wider. If the receiver's dynamic range 
characteristics were inadequate, there might be spurious signals 
generated in the receiver.


For example, if you lived in Europe where there are enormous SWBC 
signals around 40 meters at night, then you probably wouldn't want a 40 
meter dipole in parallel with your 80 meter one.

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RE: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU low power indication

2007-02-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Frank,

Yes, I have several ideas:

Check it first on a 50 ohm dummy load to see if the power output as measured
with your 'scope (or RF Probe) agrees with that displayed by the KX1.

Your antenna is connected to the output of the tuner, and the displayed SWR
is read at the input of the tuner.  What that means is the SWR looking into
the antenna itself can be a high SWR, but the tuner action matches it and
the SWR at the input to the tuner will be 1 (or close enough).  Since the
antenna itself may have a high impedance at the tuner output, the RF voltage
at that point by itself is meaningless for computing the power unless either
the RF current at that same point or the antenna feedpoint impedance is
known and used in the power computation.

After doing the check with a dummy load,and if it was indicating correctly
before, and now is found to be incorrect, look for a bad diode (1N5711) in
the wattmeter section of the KXAT1.  Then once you know the diodes are good,
readjust the balance capacitor and Forward and Reflected trimmer pots as
indicated in the KXAT1 manual.

If you find low power when operating into a 50 ohm dummy load, you should
look at the KX1 rather than the KXAT1 for the problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 Hi all,

 Does anyone have any idea about the possible cause of the low power
 reading by the KX1 ATU?

 Thanks,

 Frank

 Hi,
 
 After having been off the air for about a year (moving house; other
 interests) I have recently fired up my KX1 again. When tuning up a
 random length of wire, I noticed that the output power indicated by the
 KX1 ATU was only 0.4 to 0.5 Watts (while SWR was good: 1:1.0 to 1:1.1).
 I attached a 50 ohm dummy load and hooked up my oscilloscope and saw a
 nice 24V peak-to-peak voltage on key down. That's 1.4 Watts and IIRC not
 bad for a battery-powered KX1 (battery voltage indicated by the KX1:
 8.5V on receive, 8.4V on transmit).
 
 Why then the low power indication by the ATU?
 
 I have already taken the unit apart and have resoldered all solder
 joints on the ATU PCB, but to no avail. Does anyone have any ideas?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 73 de PA4N


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Re: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 2/19/07 4:45:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  have been told
 lately that the unused antennas on the setup would pick up additional
 noise. 

If so, it will also pick up additional signal.

 Has anyone ever done any testing with multiple antennas on one
 feedline to see if they really do pick up extra noise?

I haven't done any scientific testing, but in actual operation (FD), I have 
not
found any difference from a regular dipole.

The principle of multiple parallel dipoles is that the nonresonant dipoles 
present
a high impedance, so almost all of the power goes to the resonant dipole. 
That
principle works the other way, too, when receiving. 


 I'm thinking about putting up new inverted V antennas on 160, 80, and
 40 meters and feeding them with one coax. Sure beats antenna
 switching and it always seem to me that the signal would go to the 
 resonate antenna. I always used a coaxial balun in the feedline.
 

Works for me!

How high of a center support do you have? 

73 de Jim, N2EY
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[Elecraft] All-band folded dipoles

2007-02-19 Thread John H Gibson
Here is what L.B. Cebik says on the topic of all-band folded dipoles.

http://www.cebik.com/wire/wbfd.html

73,
John Gibson, no8v


 A lot of them have been replaced by the now-ubiquitous BW All
  Band Folded Dipole - the same antenna that I use in an open-V
  configuration.  It works equally flat over the HF (1.8-30 MHz)
  spectrum.

   73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
   Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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Re: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Scott:

I use several fan dipoles. Both use two elements. One operates on 40 
and 30 meters (and I get 15 meters, 3rd harmonic of 40,  free into 
the bargain, but the SWR is a bit above 2 on 15 m, and I must use 
tuner to match it to the K2. ). The other antenna operates on 80 and 
20 meters (and I get 17/12 meters, 3rd and 5th harmonic of 80 meters 
free into the bargain, but the SWR is a bit above 8 on 12/17 m. I 
must use tuner to match it to the K2 on 17/12. However, the line 
losses are acceptable, and the antenna is very effective on all four bands. )


Several gotchas. The elements do interact. The shorter element will 
be non-trivially off from the 468 formula. The longer element is 
pulled much less noticeably. However, if you're looking for low SWRs 
of both bands, be prepared to do a lot of tweaking.


I agree with other posted comments. If you use more than 2 elements, 
be prepared to do a very great deal of very frustrating of tweaking.


Very important: Construct your antenna in such a way that the short 
element cannot wrap around the long one. If it does wrap, it will 
pull your painstakingly tuned antenna way off the desired resonant frequency.


Other caution: Do not suppose that you can simulate a fan dipole on 
EZNEC. The condition of two parallel elements of unequal length very 
close together is one place where the computer model departs from reality.


I do not use baluns, and it does not seem to have caused me any trouble.

Good luck,
Steve
AA4AK


At 04:44 PM 2/19/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi
This is a little off topic, but I don't know of a better place to
find someone that would know the answer to my question.
Many years ago I used one coax to feed three different inverted V
antennas all for different bands. At the time I thought they worked
just fine. Worked all kinds of dx with the setup. I have been told
lately that the unused antennas on the setup would pick up additional
noise.
Has anyone ever done any testing with multiple antennas on one
feedline to see if they really do pick up extra noise?
I'm thinking about putting up new inverted V antennas on 160, 80, and
40 meters and feeding them with one coax. Sure beats antenna
switching and it always seem to me that the signal would go to the
resonate antenna. I always used a coaxial balun in the feedline.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks
Scott N5SM

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 and Feedback

2007-02-19 Thread Larry
I have a Heil Clearspeech speaker and it specifically recommends a 
separate power supply for the speaker, do not run off the same supply as 
the rig.
I didn't see the reason for that, so I hooked the speaker up to the same 
supply I used for the K2. It sounded pretty good a low volume, but when 
I cranked up the K2, I heard feedback. Figured it was time to listen to 
the manual and hooked up a separate 12vdc supply to the speaker, and 
sure enough, plenty of volume and no feedback.

I didn't notice an issue with grounding.
I realize this doesn't specifically answer your question, but I think 
you're on the right track using a separate supply.


73
Larry
WA2DGD



David Fleming wrote:
I have a significant feedback problem with my K2/KPA100.  When 
transmitting there feedback (sounds as clear and as loud as a PA system) 
through an attached external speaker.  The only partial solution I have 
found is to use a sea rate power supply for the K2 and NOT connect the 
power supply to ground. This makes a noticeable reduction in the 
feedback.However, as soon as I attach the power supply to ground the 
feedback returns.   It seems there should be a solution other than not 
connecting the power supply to ground. Suggestions and help will be 
gratefully appreciated.


Dave Fleming KB3HCL
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[Elecraft] test

2007-02-19 Thread peter gerba
just testing - . ... -

kn6bi
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[Elecraft] Clothes line dipole

2007-02-19 Thread David Cutter
For sheer inginuity, I just love the clothes line dipole in QST a few years 
ago.  If you have the facility to slide the feed point back and forth using 
a full loop (folded dipole), perhaps with a remote controlled motor, one 
feedline and one loop of wire will do a lot of multi-banding for you and be 
efficient.  Sloper mode is the easiest mechanically where one end is easily 
accessible nearer the ground.


David
G3UNA 


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[Elecraft] more noise from multiple wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

HI all:

K2VCO has come closest to answering the question actually asked.

I suspect that you heard this from contesters (like me) during
serious Multi-Op/Multi-transmitter operations.

Since these M/M stations operate all bands all the time, if a
multiband antenna is used anywhere, it will be better at picking
up signals transmitted on the other bands.  Things in this very tough
RF environment are often experienced in the shack as what we love to
call noise.

As Vic correctly indicated, it depends on the front end of the rig
(the band to band filtering).  Some older rigs used a common front
end filter for (say) both 10 and 15.  A big concern with these big KW
stations is blowing out the front end of any rigs hooked up to
multi-band antennas.  That's why they typically use coax filter to
cut off the frequencies for the bands that they are not operating on
(at a M/M station, you typicall have one full station for just one
band...never any band switching per rig).  Even if not noise from a
transmitted ham signal, those type of front end arrangements will pick
up more QRN type noise, which generally is not too frequency specific
(covers lots of frequencies).

Unless you're in a very high RF environment, I doubt that you'll ever
notice the extra noise transmitters.  I'll leave the technical
aspects of the front end of Elecraft radios to the Elecraft circuit
gurus here (not me!).

de Doug KR2Q
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[Elecraft] one more things (wires)

2007-02-19 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

What you are propsoing is the SAME as using a triband yagi or quad
with a common feed.  Nobody ever worries about 'extra noise due to
using tribander!

:-)

de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 and Feedback

2007-02-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

I would believe you are experiencing ground loop problems rather than
feedback - yes, groundloops can introduce feedback of a type, but here in
ham corcles we usually relate feedback to the RF type.  Check by operating
into a dummy load - if it persists, it is ground loop problems and not RF
feedback.

When you transmit (either keying or SSB speech), there is a varying load on
the power supply - that varying load translates into a small varying voltage
drop on the power supply leads which can couple into the external speaker
(which I figure is an amplified speaker).

Use a separate power supply for the speaker and things may tame down a bit.
Check the resistance of the entire power wiring to the KPA100 (including the
DC return (ground) lead) and make sure that resistance is very low (in the
milliohm range), and be certain the connections to the power supply are
tight and low resistance.

73,
Don W3FPR

 -Original Message-

 I have a significant feedback problem with my K2/KPA100.  When
 transmitting there feedback (sounds as clear and as loud as a PA system)
 through an attached external speaker.  The only partial solution I have
 found is to use a sea rate power supply for the K2 and NOT connect the
 power supply to ground. This makes a noticeable reduction in the
 feedback.However, as soon as I attach the power supply to ground the
 feedback returns.   It seems there should be a solution other than not
 connecting the power supply to ground.
 Suggestions and help will be gratefully appreciated.

 Dave Fleming KB3HCL

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Re: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 2/19/07 7:00:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 A fan dipole is a single-band affair. It's is a way of broadening the
 bandwidth of a single-band dipole by simulating a fat wire using multiple
 wires. Typically the wires join at an apex at the center and spread or fan
 out at the far end with cross-wires connecting the ends. That forms larger
 effective radiator diameter that reduces the Q of the antenna; hence the
 bandwidth is increased. 

That's what I think of when someone uses the term fan dipole. 
 
 It's  not a commonly-used antenna because a simple wire dipole usually has
 adequate bandwidth on 40 meters and up, and in practice even a large fan
 doesn't broaden the bandwidth all that much; not enough to cover the 3.5 - 4
 MHz range with a low SWR, for example. 
 

I disagree!

Way back in the 1980s, WA3UZI and I did some tests on an 80/75 meter fan 
dipole. 

We used four equal-length wires with spreaders at the ends, making a sort of 
giant bow tie. The far ends were not connected, they just terminated at the 
spreaders. The spreaders were horizontal and the whole thing was up about 50 
feet, fed with 50 ohm coax.

IIRC, if the ends were spread about six feet, the antenna had an SWR well 
under 2:1 from 3.5 to 4.0 MHz. The wires were a lot shorter than one would 
expect 
from the formula - about 57 feet or so. 

It was built so that one antenna could cover 80 CW and 75 phone on Field Day 
without need of a tuner, since the rigs we used could handle 2:1 SWR with no 
problem at all. 

It took a bit of pruning and testing to get the wire and spreader lengths 
right. It worked as well as a regular halfwave dipole. 

 However, like any fat radiator dipole, the resonant length is shortened a
 bit, which can be a help in limited space. 
 

Yup. 

Another approach is a cage dipole - multiple wires of the same length all in 
parallel, spaced around a circle throughout their lengths. I've not tried one 
because of the mechanical complexity compared to simple fan. Calculations 
(which I have not tried) predict that a cage of three feet in diameter is 
needed 
to get 2:1 SWR from 3.5 to 4.0 MHz.

The big problem with such antennas is that they are heavier, more 
mechanically complex, and have much more wind/ice loading than a regular single 
wire. We 
had good supports at the old FD site, and the antenna only had to last a 
weekend. Even so, we only used it one year.

 Cebik has a good write-up on fan dipoles and their close cousin, the bow 
 tie
 antenna, at www.cebik.com as part of his discussion of small beams. 
 


I suppose the best description of our antenna is a bow tie.

73 de Jim, N2EY


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[Elecraft] Bypassing and Filtering Measurements

2007-02-19 Thread Jack Smith
I've added a new page to my web site presenting measurements of the 
effectiveness of various capacitor and capacitor/ferrite bead bypassing 
strategies. The page may be viewed at 
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/bypassing.htm


Jack K8ZOA
K2 SN 5689
www.cliftonlaboratories.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
No, it stays low if your power is below 2W.  I turn the power down when 
I leave the RX on and leave the room (don't want to be a stuck ditter) 
but have fotgotten to turn it back up.  Tune doesn't work then.  Bit I 
have also had QSOs with it left all the way down.  I stuck the dummy 
load on it and mine is 375mw.

73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:04 pm, Mark Bayern wrote:
Does that mean that when I use the tune button the tx goes all the way 
up to

two watts?

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RE: [Elecraft] wire antennas

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:54:25 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:

3 bands is about my limit.

Yes -- beyond that, they get both electrically and mechanically unwieldy.

One other point - do not try to combind bands that are close to the 3rd
harmonic of the lower one on the same coax - that too will drive you crazy
trying to tune them because the 3rd harminic frequency antenna will also
present a low impedance feedpoint.  In other words, stay away from combining
80 and 30 meters or 40 meter and 15 meters.

This is also very good advice.  W2DU has an excellent discussion of this on 
his website. Google to find it. It's in one of the chapters of his book. 

I successfully use an 80/40 meter combination, a 20/15/10 combination 

Agreed. I also have an 80/40 fan that has loading coils at the ends of the 80 
meter element to allow it load on 160 (and, of course, the 40 meter element 
works fine on 15. That antenna also works quite well (and it's a 4-band 
antenna!). The loading coils are from HyPower Antenna Co. Google to find them 
-- they're a good solution for antennas on small lots. 

I also have a 40/30/20 that works, but is not as well behaved as the 
harmonically related ones, for the reasons noted. 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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RE: [Elecraft] Bypassing and Filtering Measurements

2007-02-19 Thread Craig D. Smith
A very nice piece of work Jack!   Thanks for sharing it.  I really like the
photos - kind of like I was right there.

I can confirm all of your conclusions based on my day job work.  One
additional thing to mention that some might not be aware of is that it is
also good to parallel multiple capacitors of the same type/value.  In a very
fortuitous way the capacitance adds while the equivalent series resistance
and inductance gets smaller and smaller   ;)

73
   ... Craig   AC0DS

 I've added a new page to my web site presenting measurements of the
 effectiveness of various capacitor and capacitor/ferrite bead bypassing
 strategies. The page may be viewed at
 http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/bypassing.htm
 
 Jack K8ZOA
 K2 SN 5689
 www.cliftonlaboratories.com


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: LPFM transmitter wanted

2007-02-19 Thread Rod Ai7NN

Thanks Jim,

On 2/19/07, Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:19:28 -0800, Rod Ai7NN wrote:

Anybody have a suggestion or two for a decent quality
rig that couples to an MP3/CD-player, stereo...etc. Only need to get
the signal 50-100ft or so.

A visit to places like Fry's Electronics or Best Buy will yield several



Ugh, no such critter where I now live.


VERY low power FM transmitters intended for use with personal devices like
IPOD's. I'm using one to take streaming jazz from my computer to a few FM
receivers around the house. These are good for about 100 ft. All work with


Precisely what I'm looking for. (not sure way some posters thought I
was after something illegal, I thought  my request was clear.)



non-defeatable antenna system. I paid $50 for the one I have, which
carries the Macally label and an FCC sticker of compliance.



I'll check this one out. Belkin's offering doesn't get good CNET
reviews. C Crane has a unit as well. All available on the net. (I shop
via internet mostly, see above, not sure why the early poster presumed
everything on the net was illegal))

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[Elecraft] KPA800 and KPA1500

2007-02-19 Thread Roy Morris
Does anyone know the status of the KPA800 and KPA1500 amplifiers?  When will 
they be available?
Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: LPFM transmitter wanted

2007-02-19 Thread Phil Kane
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:44:25 -0800, Rod Ai7NN wrote:

Precisely what I'm looking for. (not sure way some posters
thought I was after something illegal, I thought  my request was
clear.)

  With all due respect, Rod, you DID say LPFM.  That has a
  specific meaning to us regulatory and broadcast folks - an
  installation covering a local area with power anywhere between
  10 and 100 Watts, serving the public.

  What you really meant was a wireless FM adapter to which
  several here pointed you.  Have fun with it.

  I, for one, prefer working PSK on 40 meters, which hasn't been
  too successful for me lately g .

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RE: [Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
In CW mode, I hold MODE to put the K2 in TEST mode when I'm not operating.
That completely disables the TX in the event the key is bumped. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

No, it stays low if your power is below 2W.  I turn the power down when 
I leave the RX on and leave the room (don't want to be a stuck ditter) 
but have fotgotten to turn it back up.  Tune doesn't work then.  Bit I 
have also had QSOs with it left all the way down.  I stuck the dummy 
load on it and mine is 375mw.
73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:04 pm, Mark Bayern wrote:
 Does that mean that when I use the tune button the tx goes all the 
 way
 up to
 two watts?

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Re: [Elecraft] Contesting with my K2

2007-02-19 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.
That brings up a slight nit -- if you go into CW TEST mode the C blinks, 
but as you point out, you can't do that from another mode.  That's ok, 
but when you go to another mode, it doesn't blink anymore, and TUNE 
won't work, so it sometimes leads to a bit of headscratching.  (Plus, if 
you try to go into CW TEST mode when you're in one of the phone modes, 
it turns on VOX, which always gets me really excited and quiet until I 
can figure out how to turn it off).  But you're right, this is the 
better  approved way to temporarily disable TX.

73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

In CW mode, I hold MODE to put the K2 in TEST mode when I'm not operating.
That completely disables the TX in the event the key is bumped. 


Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

No, it stays low if your power is below 2W.  I turn the power down when 
I leave the RX on and leave the room (don't want to be a stuck ditter) 

  

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[Elecraft] steel shed and balanced feed

2007-02-19 Thread David
Hello All,

Here's another question for the antenna gurus.  I would like to use a balanced 
feeder feeder for a multiband dipole.  The problem is that my shack is in a 
steel shed and we all know running a balanced feedline near metal objects is 
a no-no.  So, is there a way of getting a balanced feedline from my antenna 
to my balanced antenna tuner through steel?  Also, my antenna is away from 
the shed so the feedline would not approach the shed at a perpendicular 
angle.

73 de David VK5DG
K2 S/N 5492
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