[Elecraft] wspr and k3

2008-05-04 Thread stephen pearce
wspr is a very low power beconing mode ... see k1jt .. it is a
derivitive of wsjt ..
I wonder if it is conceiveable that the k3 could incoporate wspr
decoding in its firmware ...
I should not imaging becon transmitting would be a problem ..

rational .. wspr beacons may become very common given the growth curve
on the wspr database ...
it could conceivably provide real time all band propogation
information .. somewhat similar to ale ..
cheers
de zl1any


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Whangarei
ph 021 390 997
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[Elecraft] K2 Input Voltage - We Live and Learn

2008-05-04 Thread Phil Kane
For the last few weeks and with the APP discussion, I was concerned that 
the DISPLAY on my K2/100 was showing 10.44 volts in receive mode whereas 
the DVM on my power distribution panel was showing a good 13.1 volts.


I was just about ready to tear this complex 12V power distribution 
system designed to commercial communications facility standards apart 
when I noticed that the LEFT side of the display was indicating 12.4! 
YupI was reading the divider and the current (0.44 A) as if it was 
10.44 volts !


55 years as a ham and 51 years as an electrical engineer 
notwithstanding


We all live and learn.  I had to share that with y'all!
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From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Ian J Maude

wayne burdick wrote:
We've just completed the most extensive K3 firmware update ever. The 
full list of changes is provided below.


Great stuff Wayne, thanks!
One point and a question.  Firstly, the RPT OFS menu entry is not in the
config menu, it is in the main one :-)

Secondly, what is the deviation set to in FM mode?  For example, I would
dearly love to use the rig on 2m for our local repeater via my XV-144
but in the UK, that means narrow deviation.  Could that be made
adjustable if needed?

Many thanks

Ian


*** NOTE ***  You must use the latest version of our firmware loader 
(K3 Utility rev 1.1.4.1) or else you won't be able to load all 
components of the upgrade. It's available on our K3 software page, 
along with release notes:


http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

As usual, if you have any difficulty with the firmware upgrade, send 
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Both Lyle, KK7P (DSP firmware) and 
myself (MCU firmware) will be closely monitoring your results in case 
further tweaking is required.


I'd also like to thank all of our K3 customers for their patience. 
This firmware release was delayed several times due to testing, 
engineering staff vacations, etc. Our field testers have been pounding 
on interim releases for weeks (thanks, guys). I hope you'll find it 
worth the wait!


73,
Wayne, N6KR

* * *

MCU 1.87 / DSP 1.69, 5-3-08

  This release includes improvements in all areas. Changes are 
categorized below.


  NEW FEATURES:

  * CW KEYING IN SSB MODES:  While in SSB modes, you can now send CW 
without
changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the 
signal at your CW pitch.
This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be 
copied.
To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until 
you see SSB +CW.


  * FM MODE ADDED: Requires FM filter installed in slot FL1. Those not 
needing
FM mode can set CONFIG:FM MODE to OFF. To set up a repeater 
offset: Use the
CONFIG:RPT OFS menu entry, then hold ALT to select -/+/simplex 
(-/+ appear under
the FM mode icon). To set up tone encode: hold PITCH, then rotate 
VFO B to select
PL TONE or PL OFF, and rotate VFO A to select the desired CTCSS 
tone. (When
PL TONE is on, a letter ‘T’ will appear near the FM mode icon.) 
Repeater offsets and

PL tones are stored per-band/per-memory.

  * VARIABLE AMP KEYING DELAY: Added CONFIG:TX DLY menu entry, which
sets the time from KEY OUT jack (active low) to first RF in 1-ms 
steps, from 8 to 20 ms.
To minimize loss of QSK speed, use the shortest delay that works 
with your amp.

Most will work with the default (minimum) setting of 8 ms.

  * LINE OUT ALLOWS RX/TX AUDIO RECORDING: Normally, CONFIG:LIN OUT 
sets a
fixed-level, receive-only output for main/sub (L/R), compatible 
with digital modes. Tapping
'1' switches LIN OUT to =PHONES, where the line outputs match 
headphone audio,
audio level controlled by AF/SUB gain controls, and both RX and TX 
audio available.


  * SIMULTANEOUS USE OF MIC AND LINE IN:  If the MAIN:MIC+LIN menu 
entry is set to
ON, and MIC SEL = FP or RP, the present mic OR line in can be used 
for transmit audio.
NOTE: Setting MIC SEL to LINE overrides the MIC+LIN menu entry 
(its parameter
becomes N-A).  When MIC+LIN is in effect, rotating the MIC 
control shows MIC GAIN.

The op has to set MIC SEL to LINE temporarily to set LINE IN gain.

  * S-METER ABSOLUTE MODE: Use the CONFIG:SMTR MD menu entry. Set to ABS
(absolute) to have S-meter stay constant with preamp/atten 
settings. Default is NOR (where
PRE/ATTN affect the S-meter). ABS mode requires recalibration 
(SMTR OF  SMTR SC).


  RECEIVE:

  * SSB RECEIVE PASSBAND EXTENDED AT LOW END (now 100 Hz; was 200 Hz).

  * AM RECEIVE WIDTH RANGE INCREASED:  The WIDTH control in AM mode 
now has
a range of 2.8 to 10.0 kHz. Wider settings provide outstanding 
fidelity for hi-fi speech
and other wide-band signals. This is the *IF* filter bandwidth -- 
the traditional way to show
bandwidth for AM, because the required IF bandwidth is twice the 
modulation bandwidth.
NORM selects an IF bandwidth of 6.0 kHz in this mode. WIDTH 
settings above 6.0 kHz
will not be useful unless you have an FM-bandwidth crystal filter 
installed (at FL1).


  * IF A 2.8 KHZ FILTER IS INSTALLED, SSB NORM BW is 2.8 kHz (was 
fixed at 2.7 kHz).


  * AUTO-SPOT (SPOT with CWT ON) now works with both very weak and 
very strong signals.


  * PSK AUTOTUNE ACCURACY improved. You may still need to use RIT 
(FINE steps) to
tune in signals for best built-in text decode. (Also see 
CW-to-DATA in the Owner’s Manual.)


  TRANSMIT:

  * TRANSVERTER POWER CONTROL: The value set in CONFIG:XVn PWR now 
correctly
sets a fixed power level on the associated transverter band 
(0-1.50 mW or 0-12W).


  * POWER ROLLBACK BASED ON REFLECTED POWER:  Power rollback begins at 
about
2.5:1 at 100 W (and of course 

Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Bob Cunnings
Does the advice for setting up soundcard digital modes given here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg53656.html

become effective when using this new version? Specifically:

If you try and trick the system and run with *zero* ALC bars in
PSK31, the ALC has to work hard to give you your requested power - or
maybe it will think there is insufficient signal to work with - and
your Tx S/N may suffer. So, *please* set it to 4 bars in soundcard
digital modes.

This sounds right given the description of the ALC changes.

Bob NW8L

   * SSB TX POWER CONTROL improved. Set ALC for about 5 bars (rarely 6+)
 using MIC gain
 control, then set CMP and POWER as desired. The RF power bargraph shows
 approx.
 peak power when you whistle or shout, but will typically show well below
 peak power
 during normal speech. If you're using an external peak-reading wattmeter
 or power
 amplifier, adjust POWER as required while observing the effect of speech
 peaks.
 If you find that an SSB power setting higher or lower than for CW is
 often required,
 you may wish to compensate for this using the CONFIG:TXG VCE menu entry.

 Technical Note: Our latest MCU and DSP code uses minimal amounts of ALC,
 consistent
 with analysis done by Leif Asbrink, SM5BSZ. (His findings and
 recommendations can be
 found on his web site, www.nitehawk.com/sm5bsz.) The general idea is to
 keep
 transmit drive just below where ALC can cause splatter on speech peaks,
 rather than
 apply ALC heavily to achieve additional compression.

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[Elecraft] from John K3JK

2008-05-04 Thread John Klokis
Guys, I need some advise.I wrote last night about the keyer problem I had 
with my K2.  That has been resolved. Now I have a new problem that surfaced 
late last night.  I was using the automatic antenna tuner and on 20 meters and 
it seemed it was laboring tryin to tune. It tuned alright. Then I went to 40 
meters and had no recieve but full power out.  I checked 20 meters again and 
only had 50 watts out at full power.  There must be a connection to these two 
bands operation and construction of the radio.  Hows that for basic theory, hi 
hi.  I am somewhat discussed since I have put this radio up for sale.  What I 
want to ask if recommendations for repair of my K2.  Is there a place in Pa.?  
I will also check on the reviews of repair sites.  Thanks for offerring advise. 
 John K3JK
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Re: [Elecraft] wspr and k3

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


stephen pearce wrote:
 
 wspr is a very low power beconing mode ... see k1jt .. it is a
 derivitive of wsjt ..
 I wonder if it is conceiveable that the k3 could incoporate wspr
 decoding in its firmware ...
 I should not imaging becon transmitting would be a problem ..
 
 rational .. wspr beacons may become very common given the growth curve
 on the wspr database ...
 it could conceivably provide real time all band propogation
 information .. somewhat similar to ale ..
 cheers
 de zl1any
 
 
Given the finite space available firmware it really only makes sense for the
K3 to support modes that are widely used. Hence it supports RTTY and PSK31
but not MFSK, Olivia and many other modes that would probably be used by a
greater number of operators if they were available than a beacon mode.

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[Elecraft] K3 Transverting

2008-05-04 Thread Ian J Maude

Hi all,
Having done the upgrade this morning I thought I would test via my XV144 
on FM.  It would appear that the transverter is shutting down for some 
reason after a short over.  I have to change bands back and forward 
again to switch the transverter back on.  My initial thought is heat but 
touching the area of the transverter PA, it is pleasantly warm but 
certainly not hot.  I have tried altering the XVn PWR setting to L0.5mW 
but the same thing happens.  It would also appear that I cannot vary the 
power output using the PWR control on the K3.  The menu info in the 
manual says I can but not how to do it.


Any ideas please as the transverter works really well otherwise and I 
get good audio reports through the repeater.


73 Ian

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Member RSGB, GQRP
K2 #4044 |K3 #455

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Re: [Elecraft] Getting to know K3-859

2008-05-04 Thread John H Gibson
Hi Dick,

You are absolutely right about quality, fit, and finish. I am building K3 SN 
820, 
and I agree that Ron's assembly instructions are thorough, clear, and complete. 

I had not thought about your assertion that building the radio would instill 
pride 
of ownership, but I must admit that I feel that way about my K3 as I watch it 
take form.

73,
John, no8v

 Original message 
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 04:58:02 -0400
From: Dick Roth KA1OZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: [Elecraft] Getting to know K3-859  
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net

It's 0444 EDT and I think it's time to go to bed.  I'm just short of the 
first power on test and I'm going to get some rest before taking that 
step.  Tomorrow is another day.

I didn't realize that items of this quality were available to 
consumers.  Fit and finish are remarkable.  There's quality in 
everything from button pushing feedback to structuring the assembly 
process.  I used to build some Heath and have written a few instruction 
manuals along the way and this instruction set is really excellent.

I have only hit one snag so far:  I received only 3 out of 4 #4 fiber 
washers and I was short 3 screws.  All but the washer were in the Spares 
Kit.  I'll be letting support know if or when I hit a road block.  So 
far...I'm having a whole lot of fun developing pride of ownership.

Good Night 
-- 
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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[Elecraft] Getting to know K3-859

2008-05-04 Thread Dick Roth KA1OZ
It's 0444 EDT and I think it's time to go to bed.  I'm just short of the 
first power on test and I'm going to get some rest before taking that 
step.  Tomorrow is another day.


I didn't realize that items of this quality were available to 
consumers.  Fit and finish are remarkable.  There's quality in 
everything from button pushing feedback to structuring the assembly 
process.  I used to build some Heath and have written a few instruction 
manuals along the way and this instruction set is really excellent.


I have only hit one snag so far:  I received only 3 out of 4 #4 fiber 
washers and I was short 3 screws.  All but the washer were in the Spares 
Kit.  I'll be letting support know if or when I hit a road block.  So 
far...I'm having a whole lot of fun developing pride of ownership.


Good Night 
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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[Elecraft] K3 build

2008-05-04 Thread Ian J Maude

Hi all,
Having built 3 K3's now just a little thought.  It would be much easier 
to put the serial number sticker on *before* you fit the SO239 
connectors.  A small thing I know but hopefully useful.


73 Ian

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Member RSGB, GQRP
K2 #4044 |K3 #455

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


Ian J Maude wrote:
 
 Great stuff Wayne, thanks!
 One point and a question.  Firstly, the RPT OFS menu entry is not in the
 config menu, it is in the main one :-)
 
 Secondly, what is the deviation set to in FM mode?  For example, I would
 dearly love to use the rig on 2m for our local repeater via my XV-144
 but in the UK, that means narrow deviation.  Could that be made
 adjustable if needed?
 
Agreed, this is a brilliant update. Well worth waiting for!

There is only one thing I'd like to see on FM that does not appear to be
there and that is a discriminator meter indication to allow accurate tuning
to the other station's frequency. I guess it could work the same way CWT
does. It probably doesn't matter on VHF/UHF or using repeaters where the
operation is channelized, but when working simplex on 10m there is no
guarantee that the station you are working will be on an exact frequency.

-
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread AD6XY - Mike

Yes - Great. Installed without problems. It does most of the things I have
been waiting for. Still not interfacing to the kettle but you can't have
everything

Is there a utility to allow me to upload a set of settings so I don't have
to go through all the config? I know I can backup and restore, but can I
edit the backup. It is rather tedious setting all the audio settings for
example when swapping between different configurations - contest vs not
contest.
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Re: [Elecraft] Getting to know K3-859

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


John H Gibson wrote:
 
 I had not thought about your assertion that building the radio would
 instill pride 
 of ownership, but I must admit that I feel that way about my K3 as I watch
 it 
 take form.
 
I'll never feel quite the same about my K3 as my K2, which I really did
build, but I know what you mean. Building a K3 from discrete components
would have been way beyond my ability anyway, but I did enjoy assembling it.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transverting

2008-05-04 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Ian J Maude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...

When working FM through the XV144, Ian, you will need to keep the power 
down as the XV144 will not support a 100% duty cycle very long.
I also find it a bit of a nuisance having to go into CONFIG:XV1 PWR to 
reduce the drive rather than being able to do it with the PWR knob. For 
that reason I have put that menu option into the PF2 preset.


I also had my first FM QSO on 2m this morning with my K3/XV144 but you 
need to keep overs very short or speak softly into the mike ;-)


I have had cut-out problems with the XV144 previously when driving it 
too hard on SSB. Perhaps a small fan might be worth considering.


73

David G4DMP

Having done the upgrade this morning I thought I would test via my 
XV144 on FM.  It would appear that the transverter is shutting down for 
some reason after a short over.  I have to change bands back and 
forward again to switch the transverter back on.  My initial thought is 
heat but touching the area of the transverter PA, it is pleasantly warm 
but certainly not hot.  I have tried altering the XVn PWR setting to 
L0.5mW but the same thing happens.  It would also appear that I cannot 
vary the power output using the PWR control on the K3.  The menu info 
in the manual says I can but not how to do it.


Any ideas please as the transverter works really well otherwise and I 
get good audio reports through the repeater.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


Ian J Maude wrote:
 
 Secondly, what is the deviation set to in FM mode?  For example, I would
 dearly love to use the rig on 2m for our local repeater via my XV-144
 but in the UK, that means narrow deviation.  Could that be made
 adjustable if needed?
 
I don't have a transverter, so I'm unable to find any FM stations to do
on-air tests with at the moment, but listening to the K3 on 29.600 FM via my
FT-817 the audio sounds a bit distorted or scratchy on voice peaks which
suggests that the deviation is too high. I'd like to be able to adjust this
to see if it is or not. I have CMP=0 and the scratchiness is detectable even
at low mic gain settings.

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[Elecraft] K3: K3 Utility v. 1.1.4.1 Question

2008-05-04 Thread Joel R. Hallas
Folks,

I just successfully uploaded the new firmware, and especially appreciate the
absolute S-meter option--makes perfect sense to me!

I just noticed something on the utility main page that puzzled me. Not sure
if this was on earlier versions, but there is a check box on the utility
main page that says Always load DSP data tables.

I have had it unchecked, must be the default, and it was this time as well.
There is nothing about it in the Help index (that I can find). Does anyone
know the correct setting? Under what conditions would I want to, or not want
to, load DSP tables?

Thanks much!

Regards, Joel
Joel R. Hallas, W1ZR


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-04 Thread Bill Coleman N2BC
Wayne, I'm curious about what seems to be an emphasis on non-powered 
speakers in your reply...   why?


My op bench was getting overrun with speakers for various rigs.  I picked up 
an 8 channel stereo line level mixer and now run everything through a single 
set of powered PC speakers.  The mixer (Behringer RX-1602) automatically 
mixes mono inputs as L+R and has a separate level adjustable stereo 
headphone output.  Each input can be individually switched on/off.


I did have to make a handful of isolation transformers to get rid of some 
ground loops but the mixer  powered speakers tolerate legal limit RF levels 
well.


73, Bill  N2BC
(checking every email now, waiting for my Katie-gram on a December K3 
order!)



- Original Message - 
From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Bruce Osterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:43 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Perfect K3 Speaker



Hi Bruce,

For communications bandwidths, a sturdy 4-ohm, 3 or 4 diameter mobile 
speaker (non-powered) does a great job. For a bit more fidelity and to 
take advantage of the K3's stereo speaker outputs, I use a pair of good 
quality bookshelf-style speakers (again, non-powered).


Right now I'm using Best Buy's Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround 
speakers, which sound quite good, although they're 8 ohms rather than 4 
so the available per-channel peak power will be lower. They're about 4W x 
8H.


I had been using just a single speaker, but having two allows me to get 
L/R separation of the main and subreceivers, as well as take advantage of 
the K3's AFX simulated stereo mode.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 3, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Bruce Osterberg wrote:


Good Evening:

If I was to add an external speaker to the K3 what would it be, looking 
for suggestions as Dayton is just around the corner.


73 Bruce N9BX

K3 # 775




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[Elecraft] firmware help

2008-05-04 Thread mark crossland
Please help., I've  just downloaded the latest
firmware and now my receiver is without any signal on
any band
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Wayne,

Your new firmware is vy much appreciated and I am very happy with many
features though not everything tested yet.
The update went without a problem, congrats - this is very well done.

I have a peculiar behaviour with SSB modulation that I have to report:

wayne burdick schrieb am 3 May 2008 um 17:29:

   * SSB TX POWER CONTROL improved. Set ALC for about 5 bars (rarely 6+)
 using MIC gain
  control, then set CMP and POWER as desired. The RF power bargraph
 shows approx.
  peak power when you whistle or shout, but will typically show well
 below peak power
  during normal speech. If you™re using an external peak-reading
 wattmeter or power
  amplifier, adjust POWER as required while observing the effect of
 speech peaks.
  If you find that an SSB power setting higher or lower than for CW is
 often required,
  you may wish to compensate for this using the CONFIG:TXG VCE menu
 entry.

  Technical Note: Our latest MCU and DSP code uses minimal amounts of
 ALC, consistent
  with analysis done by Leif Asbrink, SM5BSZ. (His findings and
 recommendations can be
  found on his web site, www.nitehawk.com/sm5bsz.) The general idea is
 to keep
  transmit drive just below where ALC can cause splatter on speech
 peaks, rather than
  apply ALC heavily to achieve additional compression.

when I transmit in SSB I am not able to get 100 % HF output.
peak power is around 40 Watts whatever I do, reading on the LP-100 peak
power meter. (using a Heil Proset with HC 5 Element)
RF display is about 40 % max.

But! when I key the transceiver with the CW paddle in SSB (new feature,
very welcome!)  I suddenly get full output also with normal speech.

If I twist the power a little up or down, I am back on 40 % output, with one Dit
in CW I can have the full power back.

I am curious, if I am the only one with this problem.
btw, modulation reports on the air are excellent. Loud and clear, vy good
readability.

73! de Werner OE9FWV

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[Elecraft] firmware help

2008-05-04 Thread mark crossland
A follow up on   firmware download, VFO 'A' reads
FPF LOAD-
VFO 'B' reads PENDING
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[Elecraft] K3: SSB output power

2008-05-04 Thread Ian J Maude
OK, I was waiting to see if the firmware sorted this but it has not.  If 
I hold tune or use a key, I get full output power on my external meter.  
On  SSB I get about 40-50W showing on peaks for a setting of 120W.  This 
is the same whether into my trusty old  Sommercamp YP-150Z or via the 
Bird into a Termaline.  It is also exactly the same into a tuned 
dipole.  This is also with the TXG VCE set to +3dB!
If I connect the 101Z or another radio into these meters, no problemo.  
So can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?  I use a Goldline  in the 
front connector and currently it is on front panel high with a mic gain 
of 10 and compression of 15.  That  kicks up the ALC just fine.
The K3 is #455 with the stock 2.7kHz filter with FRQ set to -0.91 as per 
the label on the filter and no gain.


Ideas please??

73 Ian

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[Elecraft] re: Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Scott
Bruce, 
I am using and happy with a pair of Radio Shack Optimus XTS25 bookshelf
speakers; I think this model is discontinued. 
I would think most bookshelf speakers would be good. My particular model is
8 ohms designed for 10 watts rms up to 20 watts max and I have room filling
sound if I choose, it has a single 4-inch speaker and stands 6 1/2 inches
tall. I normally run the AF gain at the 9 o-clock position. 

There are a lot of speakers out there that are specified for 100 watts or
more. I haven't tried one but I would be worried about sufficient audio
level being driven by the low wattage K3. Most PC speakers are low wattage.

eham has a section reviewing speakers for communication use.

http://www.eham.net/reviews/products/29


Mike Scott - AE6WA
Tarzana, CA (DM04 / near LA)
K3-100 #508/ KX1  #1311

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Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:05:52 -0500
From: Bruce Osterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] Perfect K3 Speaker
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Good Evening:

If I was to add an external speaker to the K3 what would it be, looking 
for suggestions as Dayton is just around the corner.

73 Bruce N9BX

K3 # 775

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RE: [Elecraft] K3: K3 Utility v. 1.1.4.1 Question

2008-05-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The K3 Utility Help describes this on the Firmware tab:

Always load DSP data tables

(Advanced Mode only, intended for firmware developers) DSP1 and DSP2
firmware consists of program instructions and some large data tables. Each
DSP firmware revision will change the program instructions, but the DSP data
tables are expected to change less frequently. DSP data tables are normally
sent to the K3 only when a new DSP data table version becomes available.
This reduces the DSP firmware load time. The Always load data tables check
box causes the DSP data table to be loaded whenever the DSP is loaded,
without regard to the currently installed DSP data table version. 

Users that aren't DSP firmware developers probably never need to select this
checkbox, but if you do, it will just take more time to load the DSP when
you select the Load checkbox on the DSP1 or DSP2 row. Nothing bad will
happen if you check the check box.

Dick, K6KR





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Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 4:21 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: K3 Utility v. 1.1.4.1 Question

Folks,

I just successfully uploaded the new firmware, and especially appreciate the
absolute S-meter option--makes perfect sense to me!

I just noticed something on the utility main page that puzzled me. Not sure
if this was on earlier versions, but there is a check box on the utility
main page that says Always load DSP data tables.

I have had it unchecked, must be the default, and it was this time as well.
There is nothing about it in the Help index (that I can find). Does anyone
know the correct setting? Under what conditions would I want to, or not want
to, load DSP tables?

Thanks much!

Regards, Joel
Joel R. Hallas, W1ZR


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Dick Dievendorff
You shouldn't directly edit the saved configuration file. However you may
save one configuration, then manipulate the K3's CONFIG menu to a second set
of settings and save THAT configuration. You may then restore either
configuration. 

CW and frequency memories are NOT part of the saved configuration.

Dick, K6KR


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Yes - Great. Installed without problems. It does most of the things I have
been waiting for. Still not interfacing to the kettle but you can't have
everything

Is there a utility to allow me to upload a set of settings so I don't have
to go through all the config? I know I can backup and restore, but can I
edit the backup. It is rather tedious setting all the audio settings for
example when swapping between different configurations - contest vs not
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[Elecraft] K3: Power on 50MHz

2008-05-04 Thread David Pratt

Apologies if this has been asked before.

On my K3/100, I find that the PWR control jumps from 8W to 13W on the 6 
metre band, but from 12W to 13W on all other bands.


Is this a feature or a fault?  I have looked through the FAQ and the 
Owner's Manual but am unable to find any reference to this.


73
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Re: [Elecraft] Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-04 Thread Tom Hammond

Bruce:

I'd suggest a 4 Ohm speaker!  Actually, I'm using two (2) of the old Motorola
UN-amplified mobile speakers available on EBay for $10 or so. They are either
3.2 or 4 Ohms and work GREAT!

73,

Tom   N0SS

At 21:05 05/03/2008, you wrote:

Good Evening:

If I was to add an external speaker to the K3 what would it be, 
looking for suggestions as Dayton is just around the corner.


73 Bruce N9BX

K3 # 775

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-04 Thread Paul Christensen
My pick is the RadioShack Optimus 8 or 11.  I believe these are long out of 
production but widely available used on the Internet.  I also second N4LQ's 
recommendation on the MFJ ClearTone for CW.


I think the audio fullness of the existing K3 speaker could be 
substantially improved with the simple addition of a baffle.  A few weeks 
ago, I looked at this and there appears to be just enough room to form a 
sealed square box around the speaker to form an infinite baffle.


The problem with 99% of the existing communications speakers is that the 
path from the back-wave of the speaker is far too short and results in 
low-frequency cancellation.  The baffle prevents back-wave and forward-wave 
cancellation.  The result is substantially improved low-end content below 
400 Hz.


Paul, W9AC

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To: Bruce Osterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:43 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Perfect K3 Speaker



Hi Bruce,

For communications bandwidths, a sturdy 4-ohm, 3 or 4 diameter mobile 
speaker (non-powered) does a great job. For a bit more fidelity and to 
take advantage of the K3's stereo speaker outputs, I use a pair of good 
quality bookshelf-style speakers (again, non-powered).


Right now I'm using Best Buy's Insignia, 4-inch, 3-way surround 
speakers, which sound quite good, although they're 8 ohms rather than 4 
so the available per-channel peak power will be lower. They're about 4W x 
8H.


I had been using just a single speaker, but having two allows me to get 
L/R separation of the main and subreceivers, as well as take advantage of 
the K3's AFX simulated stereo mode.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 3, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Bruce Osterberg wrote:


Good Evening:

If I was to add an external speaker to the K3 what would it be, looking 
for suggestions as Dayton is just around the corner.


73 Bruce N9BX

K3 # 775



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


Bob Cunnings wrote:
 
 Does the advice for setting up soundcard digital modes given here:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg53656.html
 
 become effective when using this new version? Specifically:
 
 If you try and trick the system and run with *zero* ALC bars in
 PSK31, the ALC has to work hard to give you your requested power - or
 maybe it will think there is insufficient signal to work with - and
 your Tx S/N may suffer. So, *please* set it to 4 bars in soundcard
 digital modes.
 
 This sounds right given the description of the ALC changes.
 
 Bob NW8L
 
I am observing that it is impossible to get the requested power output in
DATA A. If I set the PWR control of the K3/10 to 5W then no amount of audio
input will get the external power meter to read 5W output on a pure audio
tone. Instead the meter reads about 2.5W at the same LINE IN setting that
gave 5W out when the power was increased to max. Slowly increasing the audio
drive above this level with the K3 meter showing ALC shows the ALC pulsing
about twice a second. The amount of ALC shown during the pulses increases as
the drive level increases. The power meter (moving coil, average reading)
will only go up to about 3.0W and some slight pulsing of the meter needle is
also evident corresponding to the K3 ALC display.

Sending a PSK idle tone instead of a pure tuning tone the meter shows a
level a bit below half the level on the tuning tone, commensurate with the
K3 limiting the output to 2.5 or 3W PEP despite 5W being requested. The only
way to get a real 5W peak is to set the PWR control to 12W and then regulate
the power entirely using the audio drive, which is not a very accurate or
foolproof way of doing it.

In PSK D mode where the audio is generated internally by the K2 the power
does seem to be correctly regulated by the power control (the K3 does not
generate the short tail of pure carrier at the end of the transmission
like most sound card programs do.) However something is definitely not right
with the power level setting. If I transmit in DATA A, then select PSK D and
send something, I only get about 0.2W! I have to change mode to CW and then
back to SSB and then the power out in PSK D is correct.

Unlike someone else who reported low output on SSB my own aaallo testing
has found nothing amiss in this mode.

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Re: [Elecraft] firmware help

2008-05-04 Thread Mitch Wolfson DJØQN

Mark,

Did you remember to click on and install the FPF upload? It was not checked 
on mine by default, but you need it for this update.


73,
Mitch DJØQN

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A follow up on   firmware download, VFO 'A' reads
FPF LOAD-
VFO 'B' reads PENDING
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Re: [Elecraft] firmware help

2008-05-04 Thread Mike N8XPQ

Check to see if you have the updated USB to serial drivers, if in fact you
are using this avenue. Also possibly try to re-load the firmware again or
revert back to the last firmware that you had loaded into  
the rig. I loaded mine without issue last night using windows XP and a
USB/serial converter.

Good luck,

Mike N8XPQ


mark crossland wrote:
 
 Please help., I've  just downloaded the latest
 firmware and now my receiver is without any signal on
 any band
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[Elecraft] K3 Firmware Update

2008-05-04 Thread Mike N8XPQ

The latest update is great, however I am curious as to when some of the more
basic functions such as squelch, keypad beep, and ESSB TX will be enabled. I
have also noticed that after the update, I can only listen out 4 KHz wide
versus the prior 6 KHz with the AM filter installed. Also why not allow
RX/TX passband down to 50 or so Hz? My intent is not to poke a sleeping
bear, just curious. Also has anyone heard a whisper as to the availability
of the DVR by field day?

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Re: [Elecraft] Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-04 Thread Lee Buller


My 2 cents

I took Tom's (N0SS) suggestion and found two 4 Ohm com speakers.  They are not 
Motorolabut are Midland speakers boxes.  They were marvelously.  I tried 
the Radio Shack OPTIMUS but they sounded muddy.  They sound good on the two 
meter FM rig in the shack, but not HF.  I tried some nice computer speakers 
(two sets) and they sounded tinny.  The 4 Ohm Midland speakers, and I have 
two so I can use AFX, just sound marvelous.  I really am surprised.  

And...they were FREE!  A local ham had them in his junk box and gave them to 
me.  FREE!  Love FREE!

Lee - K0WA




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Re: [Elecraft] Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-04 Thread WA6OCP

I don't know if it's perect, but I like it.  If you can get over the fact
that it's a
mobile CB (gasp) speaker, you find that it is built like tank and has a
reasonable
communications type sound.  A nice change from the plastic and thin sheet
metal cabinets.  The cable has decent size conductors too.

The model is an SRA-168 from Ranger Communications:  www.rangerusa.com

I added an on-off switch to the back, because I have headphones and a
speaker
always plugged in.  I even made an Elecraft namepalte to cover up the
Texas Ranger logo on the front.  hi hi

Neal WA6OCP
K3 #305
on the 


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 If I was to add an external speaker to the K3 what would it be, looking 
 for suggestions as Dayton is just around the corner.
 
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[Elecraft] Katiegram for December K3 order

2008-05-04 Thread Paul Diane Zielinski
I received that long awaited Katiegram on 5/1 for my K3/100 kit ordered
12/03/07.  Looking forward to arrival within 2 weeks.

Paul
W2CEN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

Does the advice for setting up soundcard digital modes given here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg53656.html

become effective when using this new version? Specifically:

If you try and trick the system and run with *zero* ALC bars in
PSK31, the ALC has to work hard to give you your requested power - or
maybe it will think there is insufficient signal to work with - and
your Tx S/N may suffer. So, *please* set it to 4 bars in soundcard
digital modes.

This sounds right given the description of the ALC changes.


Yes, I wrote this when running a version of code that was the precursor 
to the latest release.  The downstream ALC works a bit differently 
now, but the message is correct.


The intent of the DSP code is that 4 bars are best for DATA A (and thus 
AFSK) modes.


Let me know if you have problems with this.  We're working hard to get 
it right!


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3--Keying suddenly stopped

2008-05-04 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Yes, that was it, Vic.
Apparently when I toggled the mode switch between ssb and cw
I must have also dropped the VOX selection.
I think this is an unfortunate control arrangement.  I'd rather see a
menu selection for this if it is necessary and get it off the button
where it can be changed by accident.
Thanks and 73
Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
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To: Robert Tellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3--Keying suddenly stopped


 Robert Tellefsen wrote:
  I was working the 7th District QSO Party, and doing fairly well
  at 5w on both cw and ssb.  Then, just after I logged my 103rd QSO,
  the keying stopped.
 
  Neither the paddles nor the computer coming through the key jack
  will cause a signal to go out in cw mode.  Keying the paddles does
  give cw sidetone and the red TX light over the headset jack lights
in
  time to the keying.  I've cycled through the TEST mode several
times,
  but to no effect.
 
  Holding the XMIT/TUNE button does cause a carrier at normal power.
  Using
  either VOX or PTT on ssb generates a normal signal

 Remember that VOX has to be ON in CW mode if you want closing the
key to
 put you into transmit mode.

 -- 
 73,
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 Fresno CA
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[Elecraft] Loss of CW Sidetone and Output

2008-05-04 Thread Roger Stimson

 Somehow in testing and setting up my XV144 with my K2 (#3478), I have
done something that removed the CW Sidetone and Output.  I'm fairly certain
it is a Menu issue since I have SSB output.  I am currently using a Down
East Microwave 903 transver with the K2.  I have moved the XV144 to the K3
(#280).
 What have a done?
  Roger K8RS
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)

Good day all,

I just uploaded the new firmware version which went smoothly.
After that I had to do some filter settings as I had my FM filter (yes, it
is in slot 1) already installed but it had to be enabled since the FM mode
is available now.

Normal procedure: go to Config, select a filter and tap the modes to set or
disable that particular filter. If you are for instance editing FL3 and tap
FM mode, it switches back to FL1. Be aware of that! I messed up the filter
settings. It would have been better not to be able to select FM mode when in
FL2-FL5 as the FM filter has to be in FL1 position, isn't it? 

Now the Q:
Can someone tell if and why listing in CW mode with roofing filter 2.7 Kc
and DSP set to 2.8 and centered sounds so different as when on SSB mode with
the 2,7 Kc roofing filter and the DSP at 2.8 Kc and centered? In this
particular situation (in CW mode) it is impossible to read an SSB or LSB
signal as if filters are totally different.  
  
I've got the feeling that this was not the case with the earlier version or
am I wrong?

When the roofing filter is 2.7 why does the DSP still have effect when
changed from 2.7 to 4.0 Kc (no, the roofing filter is not switched
automatically from 2.7 Kc (FL2) to 13.0 Kc (FL1)? At least the display still
says FL2. Are the slopes of the DSP so much steeper?

Is it possible to upload an earlier version?

Thanks, Evert PA2KW



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[Elecraft] K-3 6 Meter FM

2008-05-04 Thread Phillip Buckholdt

 Hi all

 Must be overlooking something. I am trying to get my K-3 to TX on a 6 
meter repeater. I have saved 53.170 to memory with a 1 mhz minus offset and 
I get a ERR TXF error. What am I missing?



Phil K8MBY  #609 



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[Elecraft] K2 6442 - Chasing zero on alignment.

2008-05-04 Thread MTcja

I have been working through the alignment prior to final assembly on my K2. 
Up through the receiver pre-alignment things seem ok.  However, I seem to
have some problems on the TX alignment on page 80.

To do this process I am using the integrated meter and the Elecraft Dummy
Load.  In addition, I do not have sufficient understanding to reason out
things that do not seem to work as expected.  I have done the procedure
several times and it seems that I have to make bigger than expected changes
each time.  Here is what has happened:

1.  Larger than expected changes;
2.  BAND +/- skips band and have to manually tune to frequency or remains on
same freq;
3.  When aligning 17m adjusting c32/4 does not change power indication. 
Indication will flicker up or down by .1 watt.

If anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it.  Is there a way
to get everything back to a default starting place and start over with the
whole part III process?  I am really hoping to get this resolved so I can do
the final assembly and install all the accessories.  I do not want to do
that until I am relatively confident that the alignment is ok.

Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Chris
K7CJA
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[Elecraft] Re: Perfect K3 Speaker

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick


On May 4, 2008, at 4:23 AM, Bill Coleman N2BC wrote:

Wayne, I'm curious about what seems to be an emphasis on non-powered 
speakers in your reply...   why?


Hi Bill,

Due to space limitations, I have a random wire antenna only 10' from 
the shack that I use on some band. Its RFI gets into powered computer 
speakers. So I turn them off when it's an issue, and use only unpowered 
speakers with the K3. The K3 can easily drive two good-size bookshelf 
speakers.


73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Firmware Update (SSB RX width limitation)

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Mike (N8XPQ) wrote:



The latest update is great, however I am curious as to when some of 
the more
basic functions such as squelch, keypad beep, and ESSB TX will be 
enabled.


We're working on all of these, Mike, along with the DVR and additional 
subreceiver-related firmware.


I have also noticed that after the update, I can only listen out 4 KHz 
wide

versus the prior 6 KHz with the AM filter installed.


I assume you're referring to SSB mode. Even though the WIDTH control 
went to 6 kHz in SSB modes before, the DSP was actually restricting the 
RX bandwidth to about 4 kHz. We'll revisit the possibility of extending 
the upper passband in the future.


In AM modes, the WIDTH control now shows the *I.F.* DSP bandwidth (up 
to 10 kHz), reflecting an AM RX passband that extends up to about 5 
kHz.




Also why not allow RX/TX passband down to 50 or so Hz?


We actually do process signals down to this level, but further 
improvement is possible. It's on the list.


73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] K3 firmware 1.87 update

2008-05-04 Thread Monty Shultes
Initial reactions - 
1) After solving the run home to momma loader message the firmware loaded 
easily.
(OT - In the movie Hunt for Red October a sonar analysis program plays a 
role.  It interprets sounds as humping whales if it cannot assign another 
source.  The savvy operator says the program runs home to momma when it's 
stumped.)  A destination directory for the firmware files didn't exist, so the 
loader gave me the missing files message.
2) Transmit audio processing seems smoother.  A dynamic mic is used so the wire 
added per the alert from Eric shouldn't matter. (s/n 699)  I still don't sound 
like Sean Connery...
3) Love the wider AM bandwidth.
Will try FM next.
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 6442 - Chasing zero on alignment.

2008-05-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Chris,

What exactly do you mean by #2.  If BAND+/- is 'skipping' a band, then 
that is an indication that you may have tuned WITH THE VFO to the next 
band.  The K2 will *not* change bands when you turn the VFO (even though 
the display may have the correct frequency indicated).


If you have created that condition by tuning from one band to the other 
with the VFO, then the way to get things back to normal is to do a 
Direct Frequency Entry for each band in question (or just do it for all 
bands to be certain they are all correct).


Such a situation *could* explain you bandpass filter tuning problems on 
80 meters and 17 meters too.


73,
Don W3FPR

MTcja wrote:

1.  Larger than expected changes;
2.  BAND +/- skips band and have to manually tune to frequency or remains on
same freq;
3.  When aligning 17m adjusting c32/4 does not change power indication. 
Indication will flicker up or down by .1 watt.


  


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[Elecraft] Re: K-3 6 Meter FM

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Phillip Buckholdt wrote:



 Must be overlooking something. I am trying to get my K-3 to TX on a 6 
meter repeater. I have saved 53.170 to memory with a 1 mhz minus 
offset and I get a ERR TXF error. What am I missing?


Hi Phil,

You must have, in the menu (while set to FM mode):

   FL1 BW = 13.0 kHz
   FL1 FRQ = 0.0
   FL1 ON = YES
   FLTX FM = FL1

Does this help?

tnx
Wayne
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[Elecraft] firmware help

2008-05-04 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
Please help., I've  just downloaded the latest firmware and now my receiver 
is without any signal on any band.  Mark N1rfb  K3--427


No problems here using 1.1.4.1, Windows XP, and the KUSB cable.  Have you 
tried re-loading?


Phil - AD5X
K3 SN308 


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[Elecraft] re: K3: SSB output power

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Ian,

We'll try to duplicate this exact scenario, and will get back to you 
shortly. My initial take on it is that you may need to do TUNE at 50 W 
to calibrate the power level (this must be done on all bands, at both 5 
and 50 W).


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 4, 2008, at 5:54 AM, Ian J Maude wrote:

OK, I was waiting to see if the firmware sorted this but it has not.  
If I hold tune or use a key, I get full output power on my external 
meter.  On  SSB I get about 40-50W showing on peaks for a setting of 
120W.  This is the same whether into my trusty old  Sommercamp YP-150Z 
or via the Bird into a Termaline.  It is also exactly the same into a 
tuned dipole.  This is also with the TXG VCE set to +3dB!


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[Elecraft] Re: K3: Power on 50MHz

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

David Pratt wrote:


Apologies if this has been asked before.

On my K3/100, I find that the PWR control jumps from 8W to 13W on the 
6 metre band, but from 12W to 13W on all other bands.


We only allow up to 8 W with the lower-power amplifier stage on 6 
meters to ensure plenty of headroom (i.e., low IMD). In an future 
firmware release we'll allow the high-power amplifier to cover the 
presently-missing range of 8-13 W.


73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K-3 6 Meter FM

2008-05-04 Thread NZ6D - Dave

I have been having the same problem all night with this same issue. I have
been through all the filter settings, placement, BW, etc...This fixed it for
me. I did notice the main tuning knob encoder had to be turned slowly to get
up to 13.00 khz. All is working well now.

Thanks,
Dave NZ6D


wayne burdick wrote:
 
 Phillip Buckholdt wrote:
 

  Must be overlooking something. I am trying to get my K-3 to TX on a 6 
 meter repeater. I have saved 53.170 to memory with a 1 mhz minus 
 offset and I get a ERR TXF error. What am I missing?
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 You must have, in the menu (while set to FM mode):
 
 FL1 BW = 13.0 kHz
 FL1 FRQ = 0.0
 FL1 ON = YES
 FLTX FM = FL1
 
 Does this help?
 
 tnx
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RE: [Elecraft] K3: K3 Utility v. 1.1.4.1 Question

2008-05-04 Thread AE4CW


Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 
 The K3 Utility Help describes this on the Firmware tab:
 
 Always load DSP data tables
 
 
Just, FYI, my K3 had a *very loud* noise on initial power-on and also when
filter bandwidth was reduced to 500 Hz.  After some discussion with tech
support, they suggested loading the DSP data tables which instantly fixed
the problem.  So, it seems that sometimes/somehow these table can become
corrupted or out of sync.  Since then I've left this box checked and haven't
noticed any significant difference in download time to the radio.

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[Elecraft] Re: 2.7 kHz filter centering in CW mode vs. SSB mode, etc.

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Evert Bakker ((PA2KW)) wrote:

Can someone tell if and why listing in CW mode with roofing filter 2.7 
Kc
and DSP set to 2.8 and centered sounds so different as when on SSB 
mode with

the 2,7 Kc roofing filter and the DSP at 2.8 Kc and centered? In this
particular situation (in CW mode) it is impossible to read an SSB or 
LSB

signal as if filters are totally different.


Hi Evert,

In CW mode, wider crystal filters are positioned such that they provide 
a rapid cutoff about about 1 kHz lower on the high end (roughly 1.9 
kHz, vs. 2.9 kHz for SSB modes). This seemed like the best choice for 
QRM reduction in CW modes. You can SHIFT the passband up a bit to 
improve copy of SSB stations in CW mode, if required.


However, with the latest firmware you can now send CW directly in SSB 
modes, which is a much more convenient way of making cross-mode QSOs. 
(Tap '1' in the CONFIG:CW WGHT menu entry to enable this feature; set 
it for SSB +CW.)



I've got the feeling that this was not the case with the earlier 
version or

am I wrong?


As far as I know this positioning of the crystal filters in CW mode has 
not changed.





When the roofing filter is 2.7 why does the DSP still have effect when
changed from 2.7 to 4.0 Kc (no, the roofing filter is not switched
automatically from 2.7 Kc (FL2) to 13.0 Kc (FL1)? At least the display 
still

says FL2. Are the slopes of the DSP so much steeper?


If you don't have a filter wider than 2.7 or 2.8 kHz enabled, the WIDTH 
control will still allow you to set WIDTH beyond this (all the way to 
4.0 kHz), but this may not be very effective since the crystal filter 
has steep skirts.


The 13 kHz filter will work in SSB modes if you have it enabled.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 SSB power setting

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:


when I transmit in SSB I am not able to get 100 % HF output.
peak power is around 40 Watts whatever I do, reading on the LP-100 peak
power meter. (using a Heil Proset with HC 5 Element)
RF display is about 40 % max.

But! when I key the transceiver with the CW paddle in SSB (new feature,
very welcome!)  I suddenly get full output also with normal speech.

If I twist the power a little up or down, I am back on 40 % output, 
with one Dit

in CW I can have the full power back.

I am curious, if I am the only one with this problem.
btw, modulation reports on the air are excellent. Loud and clear, vy 
good

readability.


Hi Werner,

Have you tried doing power calibration on all bands as described in the 
manual? You need to do TUNE on each band, into a dummy load, at both 5 
W and 50 W. This should get you reasonably close at 100 W.


However, for best initial power-setting accuracy in SSB modes and in 
DATA A and AFSK A, I'd recommend doing a quick TUNE. This is more 
accurate than setting the POWER control, which at present uses a lookup 
table to determine the approximate drive value required.


You can also use a non-zero value of CONFIG:TXG VCE to adjust the 
nominal drive level in voice modes vs. CW mode. You might try setting 
this to +1.0 or so.


73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] Re: losing FL5

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Hi Eric,

This should not have happened. You may need to re-set the filter's 
center frequency using the FL5 FRQ menu entry. Typically the 200-Hz 
filter has an offset of around -0.90 kHz.


Also make sure that FL5 BW is set to 0.20, and that you have REFCAL 
properly calibrated against a reference signal.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Eric wrote:

Seems I lost my 200 Hz filter after the update. In config the filter 
is ON, everything looks OK, but al sigs are lost when FL5 kicks in 
when turning WIDTH.


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[Elecraft] KIO3 Not Working

2008-05-04 Thread Don Wines
I started to download the new firmware and the computer wasn't talking to 
the K3. I have rebooted everything and still no communication. I have tried 
with two computers, one with the USB adapter and the other straight serial, 
still no luck.


Checked the K3 Config:KI03 and all I get is 'nor', no other options. The 
manual isn't very clear on what options will show with no transverter 
attached.


The ports on the both computers work with other devices.

The K3 (#123) has been flawess 'til now.

Any thoughts or other things to try?

Don
K5DW 



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RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 MCU 1.87 / DSP 1.69, 5-3-08

* AM RECEIVE WIDTH RANGE INCREASED:  The WIDTH control in AM 
 mode now has a range of 2.8 to 10.0 kHz. Wider settings provide 
 outstanding fidelity for hi-fi speech and other wide-band signals. 
 This is the *IF* filter bandwidth -- the traditional way to show
 bandwidth for AM, because the required IF bandwidth is twice the 
 modulation bandwidth. 
NORM selects an IF bandwidth of 6.0 kHz in this mode. WIDTH 
 settings above 6.0 kHz will not be useful unless you have an FM-
 bandwidth crystal filter installed (at FL1).

Audio response is limited to 4.2 KHz with either the FM filter (13 
KHz) or AM filter (6 KHz) at FL1.  With the AM filter, 4.2 KHz is 
wider than necessary.  With the FM filter, the 4.2 KHz high cut is 
less than the 10 KHZ of IF bandwidth.  Why is the IF bandwidth and 
audio response excessively restricted with the FM filter?  It should 
be possible to achieve at least 12 KHz of IF bandwidth and 6 KHz or 
more of audio bandwidth depending on the filter skirts. 

  * IF A 2.8 KHZ FILTER IS INSTALLED, SSB NORM BW is 2.8 kHz 
 (was fixed at 2.7 kHz).

Can this be extended to CW and Data?  It appears that NORM is 
currently fixed at 400 Hz regardless of mode and filter.  500 Hz 
would be more appropriate for CW with the 500 Hz crystal filter 
and even wider values might be appropriate for some DATA A modes 
with a 1000 Hz or 1.8 KHz filter. 

* AUTO-SPOT (SPOT with CWT ON) now works with both very 
 weak and very strong signals.

Auto-spot consistently tunes to a tone 50 Hz low (50 Hz below 
the value set for pitch). 

* SSB TRANSMIT BANDPASS EXTENDED AT LOW END. Improvement 
 is about 2 dB at 300 Hz, 3 dB at 200 Hz, and 6 dB at 100 Hz. 

Can this be made optional?  Excess LF response only wastes 
power at low frequencies and occupies excess bandwidth. 

 Additional improvement possible via TX EQ.

Will TX EQ be made mode and/or input dependent?  Setting TX EQ 
for voice screws up the audio response for digital mode (AFSK A 
and DATA A) operation.  The same is true for RX EQ. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

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[Elecraft] K3 Squelch problem

2008-05-04 Thread aa1o
Hi,
I am having a problem adjusting the squelch.
I made a 6 meter fm repeater contact this morning, but the other station was 
breaking up (he said my audio was fine). I thought the squelch threshold 
must be set too high. In trying to set that value in the config menu I 
get -- for a value and cannot seem to change it. How do I enable the squelch 
control?
-Bill AA1O  K3 287
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[Elecraft] Burdick watch!

2008-05-04 Thread Don Rasmussen
Welcome back from vacation Wayne, looks like you drew
email watch for a while. Maybe it's just becuase
you're keeping an eye on the firmware release, but
refreshing to see the firmware programmer the CEOs
watching the list. ;-)

Using a Drake MS4 here (4 ohms), gives good punch on
CW, good fidelity on phone modes. 

Love the new K3 firmware!


[Elecraft] Re: K3 Firmware Update (SSB RX width
limitation)
wayne burdick n6kr at elecraft.com 
Sun May 4 11:45:19 EDT 2008 

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Mike (N8XPQ) wrote:


 The latest update is great, however I am curious as
to when some of 
 the more
 basic functions such as squelch, keypad beep, and
ESSB TX will be 
 enabled.

We're working on all of these, Mike, along with the
DVR and additional 
subreceiver-related firmware.

 I have also noticed that after the update, I can
only listen out 4 KHz 
 wide
 versus the prior 6 KHz with the AM filter installed.

I assume you're referring to SSB mode. Even though the
WIDTH control 
went to 6 kHz in SSB modes before, the DSP was
actually restricting the 
RX bandwidth to about 4 kHz. We'll revisit the
possibility of extending 
the upper passband in the future.

In AM modes, the WIDTH control now shows the *I.F.*
DSP bandwidth (up 
to 10 kHz), reflecting an AM RX passband that extends
up to about 5 
kHz.


 Also why not allow RX/TX passband down to 50 or so
Hz?

We actually do process signals down to this level, but
further 
improvement is possible. It's on the list.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] transmitting FM

2008-05-04 Thread Monty Shultes
Discovered that if you use split mode for repeater offset, be sure that mode 
is FM on both VFOs.  I tried transmitting with mode CW on VFO B and nothing 
happened.  Doh.
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[Elecraft] K3: nice feature FM off

2008-05-04 Thread LY2IJ
Waiting for AM off and bands off to select.

73 Arunas, ly2ij, K3 s/n 500
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch problem

2008-05-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

...How do I enable the squelch control?


It is always enabled in FM mode, disabled in other modes at present. 
The squelch knob is the outer knob on the concentric pot you use for RF 
gain.


73,

Lyle kK7P

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[Elecraft] Re: K3: nice feature FM off

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick


On May 4, 2008, at 11:23 AM, LY2IJ wrote:


Waiting for AM off and bands off to select.

73 Arunas, ly2ij, K3 s/n 500


Band disable/enable is on the list. I suppose we could disable AM, too 
-- now that's on the list :)


73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] Band disabling

2008-05-04 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Has anyone found a way to disable certain bands
in the band switching list?
I'd like to be able to disable 60m and the WARC bands
when working contests, so I don't have to step through
them.
Maybe even come up with a way to directly address
any band with a button push.
73, Bob N6WG
The Little Station with Attitude
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

- Original Message - 
From: Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'wayne burdick' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Elecraft Reflector' 
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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)


| * AUTO-SPOT (SPOT with CWT ON) now works with both very
|  weak and very strong signals.
|
| Auto-spot consistently tunes to a tone 50 Hz low (50 Hz below
| the value set for pitch).

CW auto tuning to my XG1 on either low or high O/P setting auto tunes to 
my 650Hz pitch setting.  Confirmed by Spectrogram 16 display.

With BW set to 1000Hz the capture range, in my case with 650Hz pitch, 
is -220Hz to +195Hz at 1 microvolt I/P signal.  Outside those limits it 
can take two pushes of SPOT to auto spot, or much beyond those limits the 
auto spot will tune the wrong direction.  However I feel I'm not that tone 
deaf that I can't get to within +/-100Hz by ear.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO


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[Elecraft] Antenna Name

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

I've just noticed that with the latest firmware installed the previously 
enabled antenna name feature (HOLD ANT) has been cancelled.  I'm loathed 
to try setting it again 'cos I don't want it.  Is there a disable method 
just in case in the heat of something I accidentally turn it on again?

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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[Elecraft] Re: Antenna Name

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Mike,

I fixed this so that, if the antenna name is all blank -, it 
will not show up at all. As long as you don't assign a name, it'll stay 
that way.


For those like me who sometimes need reminding of which antenna is 
selected, the feature still exists. Hold ANT, then use VFO A and B to 
give it a name.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 4, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Mike Harris wrote:


G'day,

I've just noticed that with the latest firmware installed the 
previously
enabled antenna name feature (HOLD ANT) has been cancelled.  I'm 
loathed
to try setting it again 'cos I don't want it.  Is there a disable 
method

just in case in the heat of something I accidentally turn it on again?

Regards,

Mike VP8NO



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick



 * IF A 2.8 KHZ FILTER IS INSTALLED, SSB NORM BW is 2.8 kHz
(was fixed at 2.7 kHz).


Can this be extended to CW and Data?  It appears that NORM is
currently fixed at 400 Hz regardless of mode and filter.  500 Hz
would be more appropriate for CW with the 500 Hz crystal filter
and even wider values might be appropriate for some DATA A modes
with a 1000 Hz or 1.8 KHz filter.


Added to the list -- thanks.




   * AUTO-SPOT (SPOT with CWT ON) now works with both very
weak and very strong signals.


Auto-spot consistently tunes to a tone 50 Hz low (50 Hz below
the value set for pitch).


I can't duplicate this. I tried various sidetone pitches and found that 
auto-spot got to within a few Hz every time. What sidetone pitch are 
you using? I suppose some kind of band noise could interfere with the 
operation of CWT as well.






   * SSB TRANSMIT BANDPASS EXTENDED AT LOW END. Improvement
is about 2 dB at 300 Hz, 3 dB at 200 Hz, and 6 dB at 100 Hz.


Can this be made optional?  Excess LF response only wastes
power at low frequencies and occupies excess bandwidth.


We could add a menu entry for this -- it's on the list. Meanwhile, the 
low end is rolled off a bit in hardware, too, so in practice I don't 
think you'll have any problems with this.






Additional improvement possible via TX EQ.


Will TX EQ be made mode and/or input dependent?  Setting TX EQ
for voice screws up the audio response for digital mode (AFSK A
and DATA A) operation.  The same is true for RX EQ.


I believe both RX and TX EQ are bypassed in DATA modes. If not, they 
should be. I'll mention this to Lyle.


Per-mode settings are on the list, too.

tnx
Wayne
N6KR




73,

   ... Joe, W4TV






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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Lyle Johnson

...listening to the K3 on 29.600 FM via my
FT-817 the audio sounds a bit distorted or scratchy on voice peaks which
suggests that the deviation is too high. I'd like to be able to adjust this
to see if it is or not.


If you see a dull red glow to the west, it is my face turning beet red. 
 Reasons/excuses aside, the released code has deviation at about 6 kHz 
instead of 3 kHz.


This is now fixed in my development code.

Meanwhile, to set the deviation using K3 Utility:

Click on the Command Tester tab, in the edit line, type

!dd40;

and deviation should be right.  This only needs to be sent once per 
session. If you leave the K3 on, the deviation setting should not be 
changed when you change modes/bands/etc.


Sorry for missing this one, Julian.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch problem

2008-05-04 Thread aa1o
Thanks Lyle - now the squelch is working for me. I hope there is a note to 
the effect you describe.

I like the new firmware.
73,
-Bill AA1O
K2 1780
K3 287
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Squelch problem



...How do I enable the squelch control?


It is always enabled in FM mode, disabled in other modes at present. The 
squelch knob is the outer knob on the concentric pot you use for RF gain.


73,

Lyle kK7P



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[Elecraft] K3 AM power control indicated power level

2008-05-04 Thread Dave G4AON
The power control sets power in AM all the way up to 120 Watts 
indicated, but only actually outputs around a quarter of the set power, 
I appreciate the peak output will be the displayed power, but everyone 
else displays the actual carrier level. Example my faithful TS-480SAT 
only allows the AM power to be set between 5 and 25 Watts, which seems 
more sensible than a K3 which has an apparent power out adjustable from 
100 mW to 120 Watts.


Is this an error that has crept in or was it like that in earlier firmware?

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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[Elecraft] Re: losing FL5

2008-05-04 Thread Eric

At 19:06 4-5-2008, you wrote:


Hi Eric,

This should not have happened. You may need to re-set the filter's 
center frequency using the FL5 FRQ menu entry. Typically the 200-Hz 
filter has an offset of around -0.90 kHz.


Also make sure that FL5 BW is set to 0.20, and that you have REFCAL 
properly calibrated against a reference signal.



Hi Wayne,


After some filter swapping, it looks like the 200 Hz filter is dead. 
It wasn't during the ARRL CW test, last time I used it, so I guess 
it's a coincidence and has no connection with the software changes.


vy 73 Eric PA3CEV


PS: no visual problems on the 200 Hz board, all leads are clipped 
short etc. Anything I could do myself?










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Re: [Elecraft] K3: SSB output power

2008-05-04 Thread f5moo

hello ian and the list
i have the same probleme here with serial 153
set to 100w and ssb only 40 to 45 W
73 terry F5MOO
K3 #153





Ian J Maude a écrit :
OK, I was waiting to see if the firmware sorted this but it has not.  
If I hold tune or use a key, I get full output power on my external 
meter.  On  SSB I get about 40-50W showing on peaks for a setting of 
120W.  This is the same whether into my trusty old  Sommercamp YP-150Z 
or via the Bird into a Termaline.  It is also exactly the same into a 
tuned dipole.  This is also with the TXG VCE set to +3dB!
If I connect the 101Z or another radio into these meters, no 
problemo.  So can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong?  I use a 
Goldline  in the front connector and currently it is on front panel 
high with a mic gain of 10 and compression of 15.  That  kicks up the 
ALC just fine.
The K3 is #455 with the stock 2.7kHz filter with FRQ set to -0.91 as 
per the label on the filter and no gain.


Ideas please??

73 Ian



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[Elecraft] Re: K3 SSB power setting

2008-05-04 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
hi Wayne, 

to make a long story short - all ok now!!
explanation between the lines:

wayne burdick schrieb am 4 May 2008 um 10:04:

  when I transmit in SSB I am not able to get 100 % HF output.
  peak power is around 40 Watts whatever I do, reading on the LP-100 peak
  power meter. (using a Heil Proset with HC 5 Element) RF display is about
  40 % max.
 
  But! when I key the transceiver with the CW paddle in SSB (new feature,
  very welcome!)  I suddenly get full output also with normal speech.
 
  If I twist the power a little up or down, I am back on 40 % output, with
  one Dit in CW I can have the full power back.


 Have you tried doing power calibration on all bands as described in the
 manual? You need to do TUNE on each band, into a dummy load, at both 5 W
 and 50 W. This should get you reasonably close at 100 W.

no I did not - until now. In the manual I misunderstood the first sentence of 
this chapter:
is normally done at assembly time or by the factory. So I skiped this step :-(
I did it now - and it seemed to help.
 
 However, for best initial power-setting accuracy in SSB modes and in 
 DATA A and AFSK A, I'd recommend doing a quick TUNE. This is more 
 accurate than setting the POWER control, which at present uses a lookup
 table to determine the approximate drive value required.

I limited the tune power to 8 Watts - my automatic tuner does not need more 
to tune. When I set Tuner power to normal, the output power I see on the 
wattmeter corresponds very well with the K3 setting. 

Another observation: the ATU problem seems to be solved now.
I don't know how this is linked, but it seems to work now, when I set the 2.7 
filter frequency offset to its correct value of -.89

thank you vy much, 

73! de Werner OE9FWV

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[Elecraft] K3 S-Meter Calibration

2008-05-04 Thread William Shappley
In case anyone wants to compare, I just calibrated my K3's S-meter  
with an in-cal HP 8640B.The new firmware (Version 1.87/1.69)  
includes the magic
S-meter that reads the same no matter what (pre-amp, attenuator,  
etc.) and since the firmware documentation said recalibration is  
required, I decide to give it a whirl.


I calibrated at 14.100 MHz, and used the following levels:

S9 = 50 microvolts
S5 = 3.2 microvolts

The results:  SMTR SC = 16 (default is 14), SMTR OF = 20 (default is  
24).


The new absolute mode is amazing.  After calibration, I can put in 50  
microvolts and get S9 and 3.2 microvolts and get S5 in ATT, PRE or  
normal.


By the way, the power control IS much more stable in digital modes  
(RTTY in DATA A), and the average power on speech (using an LP-100  
vector wattmeter) is noticeably

higher.

Cool.

73,
Bill
K4DXU



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Paul Christensen
Can someone confirm the default file location for the K3 update utility when 
updating through the Internet?  Tnx!



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)



...listening to the K3 on 29.600 FM via my
FT-817 the audio sounds a bit distorted or scratchy on voice peaks 
which
suggests that the deviation is too high. I'd like to be able to adjust 
this

to see if it is or not.


If you see a dull red glow to the west, it is my face turning beet red. 
Reasons/excuses aside, the released code has deviation at about 6 kHz 
instead of 3 kHz.


This is now fixed in my development code.

Meanwhile, to set the deviation using K3 Utility:

Click on the Command Tester tab, in the edit line, type

!dd40;

and deviation should be right.  This only needs to be sent once per 
session. If you leave the K3 on, the deviation setting should not be 
changed when you change modes/bands/etc.


Sorry for missing this one, Julian.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] Losing FL5 SOLVED!

2008-05-04 Thread Eric

At 21:19 4-5-2008, you wrote:


Eric,

Do you have the proper offset for your 200-Hz filter dialed into the 
FL5 FRQ menu entry? It's typically -0.90 kHz.


$%!!


I didn't, I dialled 0,09. The right offset is actually written on a 
sticker on the filter with a pen.


Now the filter is back, so everything works fb again.

My bad.


Thanks a lot for your quick response!


vy 73 Eric PA3CEV







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[Elecraft] K3 FW Upload Crash

2008-05-04 Thread G3SJJ
Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and 
pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone 
extract me out of my mess??


- Upload has stopped
- Display unlit but I can see MCU LD
- Red TX LED flashing
- Fans on full
- Can't power off at the radio

A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ  !!
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 FW Upload Crash

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Chris,

Turn the K3 off at the power supply, then turn it back on. Next, hold 
the POWER switch in for about 10 seconds until you see MCU LD on the 
LCD. Then re-try your firmware load.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 4, 2008, at 12:32 PM, G3SJJ wrote:

Oh dear, I have done something really wrong!! Had a senior moment and 
pressed some keys whilst in process of the latest upgrade. Can anyone 
extract me out of my mess??


- Upload has stopped
- Display unlit but I can see MCU LD
- Red TX LED flashing
- Fans on full
- Can't power off at the radio

A most embarassed Chris G3SJJ  !!
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 AM power control indicated power level

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Dave,

This is the way it has always behaved. We wanted to see if AM operators 
would like it better this way (i.e., to know how much carrier power the 
transmitter was actually set for, which seems safer than displaying 
AM voice power, if not the traditional way). I haven't heard much about 
it one way or the other until now. It's on my list for review.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 4, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Dave G4AON wrote:

The power control sets power in AM all the way up to 120 Watts 
indicated, but only actually outputs around a quarter of the set 
power, I appreciate the peak output will be the displayed power, but 
everyone else displays the actual carrier level. Example my faithful 
TS-480SAT only allows the AM power to be set between 5 and 25 Watts, 
which seems more sensible than a K3 which has an apparent power out 
adjustable from 100 mW to 120 Watts.


Is this an error that has crept in or was it like that in earlier 
firmware?


73 Dave, G4AON
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Re: [Elecraft] Burdick watch!

2008-05-04 Thread Bill W4ZV



wb8yqj wrote:
 
 refreshing to see the firmware programmer the CEOs
 watching the list. ;-)
 

Elecraft brings new meaning to the phrase customer responsiveness!

AD6XY Q:  Sun May 4 06:42:20 EDT 2008
K6KR A:  May 4 09:11:35 EDT 2008

G4ILO Q:  Sun May 4 07:06:38 EDT 2008
KK7P A:  Sun May 4 14:47:18 EDT 2008

NW8L Q:  Sun May 4 02:39:45 EDT 2008
KK7P A:  Sun May 4 11:00:10 EDT 2008

OE9FWV Q:  Sun May 4 08:38:05 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 13:04:19 EDT 2008

N9BX Q:  Sat May 3 22:05:52 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sat May 3 23:43:26 EDT 2008

N2BC Q:  Sun May 4 07:23:53 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 11:34:10 EDT 2008

W1ZR Q:  Sun May 4 07:20:48 EDT 2008
K6KR: A:  Sun May 4 09:09:30 EDT 2008

G0VGS Q:  Sun May 4 08:54:00 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 12:02:53 EDT 2008

K8MBY Q:  Sun May 4 11:10:22 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 11:56:22 EDT 2008

AA1O Q:  Sun May 4 13:31:44 EDT 2008
KK7P A:  Sun May 4 14:03:55 EDT 2008

VP8NO Q:  Sun May 4 14:27:24 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 14:34:23 EDT 2008

LY2IJ Q:  Sun May 4 14:23:04 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 14:08:41 EDT 2008

G4AON Q:  Sun May 4 14:48:39 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 15:44:22 EDT 2008

G3SJJ Q:  Sun May 4 15:32:48 EDT 2008
N6KR A:  Sun May 4 15:37:33 EDT 2008

Wow!  Have you ever asked a question of competitors (on a weekend no less!)
and seen such responsiveness directly from the company management?  

This is why IMHO Elecraft will continue to gain market share in leaps and
bounds.  Competitors beware...you were warned!

73,  Bill  W4ZV




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[Elecraft] Re: Burdick watch!

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick
Thanks, Bill -- now my wife has written proof that I don't have a life  
:(  (At least not immediately after a new firmware release)


Lyle: it looks like we have to work on our turnaround times.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

Bill W4ZV wrote:





wb8yqj wrote:


refreshing to see the firmware programmer the CEOs
watching the list. ;-)



Elecraft brings new meaning to the phrase customer responsiveness!

AD6XY Q:  Sun May 4 06:42:20 EDT 2008
K6KR A:  May 4 09:11:35 EDT 2008



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[Elecraft] K3: New firmware will get a few corrections shortly

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Just a quick heads-up:

Now that the new firmware has been released to much wider distribution, 
we've been notified of some issues we hadn't discovered earlier. The 
following items will be addressed very shortly with another release:


1. FM deviation set too high.

2. Selecting AFX (BIN mode) for receive causes transmit distortion in 
SSB modes (AFX DELAYx settings are OK).


3. Transverter power level may be too high after a band change, and the 
level can't be controlled by the POWER control.


4. CONFIG:TXG VCE menu entry appears to be non-functional. This menu 
entry is needed to establish a higher drive level for voice vs. CW 
modes.


I'll do another posting as soon as revised firmware is ready. Thanks 
for all the quick feedback.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Burdick watch!

2008-05-04 Thread Peter G3MLO

At this rate Wayne you will need to book another vacation
Great customer service from a Great company

wayne burdick wrote:
 
 Thanks, Bill -- now my wife has written proof that I don't have a life  
 :(  (At least not immediately after a new firmware release)
 
 Lyle: it looks like we have to work on our turnaround times.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 Bill W4ZV wrote:
 



 wb8yqj wrote:

 refreshing to see the firmware programmer the CEOs
 watching the list. ;-)


 Elecraft brings new meaning to the phrase customer responsiveness!

 AD6XY Q:  Sun May 4 06:42:20 EDT 2008
 K6KR A:  May 4 09:11:35 EDT 2008
 
 
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[Elecraft] WBL V2L paddle owners: Looking for copy of 'data' sheet

2008-05-04 Thread Andrew Moore
Sorry to spam the lists with this but I figure there are lots of CW
ops here who might have what I'm looking for.

I picked up a set of V2L paddles (by Stan, W9WBL) but they didn't
include the page that describes the physics/forces behind the design.
I'd like to have a copy of this to stick with the other docs that came
with the paddles.

Would any V2L owners be kind enough to scan or photocopy the sheet for
me?  I think it was a single 8.5 x 11 page.

And in the way off chance someone has my original set (serial #044, I
think), I'd sure love to swap back, fore purely aesthetic reasons!  I
bought these ones (#123) from the original owner and they're
perfect

Thanks,
--Andrew, NV1B
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Re: [Elecraft] Burdick watch!

2008-05-04 Thread AD6XY - Mike

How come it does not say Elecraft on the display boot up?
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[Elecraft] K3 #679

2008-05-04 Thread Gary Gregory
G'Day from Down Under,

Well I did the download last night and I never ever thought that I could do
this without my fingers getting out of sync with what little grey matter I
had left. But, to my absolute surprise, it worked a treat. Thanks Elecraft
for sending me a superb radio even I can use.

Why anyone would sell one of these radios is a total mystery to me. The
receiver is unbelievable, the TX audio reports I am getting are nothing
short of amazing, again, many, many thanks Elecraft...this radio is going
with me after I am done in this world and I am sure I can TX from wherever I
go next.

73's from one very happy camper.

Gary
#679
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[Elecraft] K3 Second Receiver

2008-05-04 Thread Nick Henwood
It would be good to know how things are going please. Did the first batch get 
out on time (25 April?)
73 Nick G3RWF
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Second Receiver

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Nick Henwood wrote:


It would be good to know how things are going please.
Did the first batch get out on time (25 April?)
73 Nick G3RWF


No. Our sheet metal fabricator was sick for a week, and he didn't get a 
tool drawing to the tool maker in time (for adding a punched recess to 
the KRX3 bottom shield). By the time he discovered this -- and the 
toolmaker got back from *his* vacation -- the tool was two weeks past 
due. I just heard on Friday that the tool is due on Tuesday, which 
means the first batch of subreceivers will go out late next week. (Eric 
was too busy with the recent firmware release to update the status 
page, but I assume he'll be doing this on Monday.)


Lyle and I have been taking advantage of the delay in sheet metal to 
get farther along with subreceiver firmware. I've been doing a lot of 
testing. I'm pretty sure I'm biased, but I can state unequivocally that 
having a subreceiver in your K3 is extremely cool  :)


73,
Wayne
N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Second Receiver

2008-05-04 Thread Mike Harris
G'day,

- Original Message - 
From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nick Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Second Receiver


| No. Our sheet metal fabricator was sick for a week, and he didn't get a
| tool drawing to the tool maker in time (for adding a punched recess to
| the KRX3 bottom shield). By the time he discovered this -- and the
| toolmaker got back from *his* vacation -- the tool was two weeks past
| due. I just heard on Friday that the tool is due on Tuesday, which
| means the first batch of subreceivers will go out late next week. (Eric
| was too busy with the recent firmware release to update the status
| page, but I assume he'll be doing this on Monday.)

I look forward to reading the installation manual.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


Bob Cunnings wrote:
 
 I have set up for PSK31 operation with the new firmware and am getting
 exactly what I expect. I'm using a peak reading external meter and it
 agrees with the power commanded and the power indicated on the K3
 front panel RF meter. First I adjusted audio drive to get 4 bars on
 the ALC meter using a pure tone (Digpan tune mode), and could then
 adjust power at will with the power indicated on the external peak
 reading meter tracking the power control nicely.
 
 PSK31 idle average power is about 50% of the key down (single tone)
 power. Using Digipan tune mode I see commanded power equal to
 indicated power when the external meter is set to read either peak or
 average (of course).  When sending PSK31 idle I must have the meter
 set to read peak to get agreement with the front panel RF meter, which
 makes sense since the change notes state:
 
  The RF power bargraph shows approx. peak power...
 
  (in the SSB TX POWER CONTROL section).
 
 Are you adjusting audio drive to get 4 bars of ALC with a pure tone?
 
 Bob NW8L
 
 

I have PWR set to 5W. I'm sending a pure tone at 1KHz which is my preferred
center frequency for data modes. I increase the LINE level until I get 5
bars of ALC. If I stop when it gets to 4 the ALC display is flickering like
the bars keep on being redrawn. I'm getting 5 bars with LINE = 36. However,
the power meter reading stops increasing at about 2.8W, when LINE=32 which
gives 4 bars. I cannot get more than 2.8W with PWR=5W when sending a pure
tone. The meter reads exactly what PWR is set to in CW mode. When
transmitting an idle signal the meter reads a bit less than half the value
it showed on the pure tone. If I set PWR to 12W I'm currently getting about
6.5W on the pure tone.

Now if I set PWR to 12W, giving as I say about 6.5W out, and then back the
PWR control down, then the power starts to reduce once PWR gets to 6.5W, and
when I get to 5W the meter also shows 5W out. It holds that level on
subsequent transmits, and if I transmit an idle tone I get just over 2W
shown on my (non peak reading) meter, which is what you would expect at that
level. If I then press TUNE, and then try transmiting in DATA A again,
either a pure tone or an idle signal, the output reverts to the lower level
again.

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 * AUTO-SPOT (SPOT with CWT ON) now works with both very
  weak and very strong signals.
 
  Auto-spot consistently tunes to a tone 50 Hz low (50 Hz below
  the value set for pitch).
 
 I can't duplicate this. I tried various sidetone pitches and 
 found that auto-spot got to within a few Hz every time. What 
 sidetone pitch are you using? I suppose some kind of band noise 
 could interfere with the operation of CWT as well.

I first noticed it with a CW pitch of 600 Hz.  The auto spot will 
eventually zero in after three or four tries but my ear is more 
accurate than the auto-spot.  It may be band noise or simply timing 
out between CW characters because it is always accurate with a 
continuous tone (e.g. XG-2). 

 
  Additional improvement possible via TX EQ.
 
  Will TX EQ be made mode and/or input dependent?  Setting TX EQ
  for voice screws up the audio response for digital mode (AFSK A
  and DATA A) operation.  The same is true for RX EQ.
 
 I believe both RX and TX EQ are bypassed in DATA modes. If not, they 
 should be. I'll mention this to Lyle.

I would hope so but that does not seem to be the case with RX EQ.  
When I set up the RX EQ to help a little with the high end in AM 
(band 7 = +2, Band 8 = +4), I see the tilt in AFSK A and DATA A.  
It's obvious since EQ band 7 is just slightly higher than the 
standard 2295 Hz space in RTTY and results is an obvious level 
difference between mark and space tones. 
 
 Per-mode settings are on the list, too.
 
That will be helpful.  

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 

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[Elecraft] Re: K3: EQ in DATA modes

2008-05-04 Thread wayne burdick

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:



I believe both RX and TX EQ are bypassed in DATA modes. If not, they
should be. I'll mention this to Lyle.


I would hope so but that does not seem to be the case with RX EQ.
When I set up the RX EQ to help a little with the high end in AM
(band 7 = +2, Band 8 = +4), I see the tilt in AFSK A and DATA A.
It's obvious since EQ band 7 is just slightly higher than the
standard 2295 Hz space in RTTY and results is an obvious level
difference between mark and space tones.


I looked into this and, in fact, EQ still applies in DATA modes. I'll 
change this when I get a chance.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


Joe Subich, W4TV-3 wrote:
 
* SSB TRANSMIT BANDPASS EXTENDED AT LOW END. Improvement 
 is about 2 dB at 300 Hz, 3 dB at 200 Hz, and 6 dB at 100 Hz. 
 
 Can this be made optional?  Excess LF response only wastes 
 power at low frequencies and occupies excess bandwidth.
 
 Additional improvement possible via TX EQ.
 
 Will TX EQ be made mode and/or input dependent?  Setting TX EQ 
 for voice screws up the audio response for digital mode (AFSK A 
 and DATA A) operation.  The same is true for RX EQ. 
 
I second this suggestion. I personally did not like the extra bass in my
audio. I have compensated for this using the TX EQ. But as you say, doing
that is less than ideal for data modes.

I also find, apart from the excessive FM deviation that I mentioned before,
that the FM sounds a bit thin compared to SSB. I'm wondering if the FM
audio needs a bit more de-emphasis. If it's just a matter of personal
preference, then I can't use TX EQ to adjust it to my liking as long as
there is only one TX EQ setting for all modes.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: nice feature FM off

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


wayne burdick wrote:
 
 
 On May 4, 2008, at 11:23 AM, LY2IJ wrote:
 
 Waiting for AM off and bands off to select.

 73 Arunas, ly2ij, K3 s/n 500
 
 Band disable/enable is on the list. I suppose we could disable AM, too 
 -- now that's on the list :)
 
I only want FM OFF on 12m and below ... :)

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: losing FL5

2008-05-04 Thread Stan Rife

   Sorry Wayne, I meant to send this to the list.

   Has the method 3 been implemented for frequency calibration yet?

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
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K3 SN 0690



wayne burdick wrote:

Hi Eric,

This should not have happened. You may need to re-set the filter's 
center frequency using the FL5 FRQ menu entry. Typically the 200-Hz 
filter has an offset of around -0.90 kHz.


Also make sure that FL5 BW is set to 0.20, and that you have REFCAL 
properly calibrated against a reference signal.


73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Eric wrote:

Seems I lost my 200 Hz filter after the update. In config the filter 
is ON, everything looks OK, but al sigs are lost when FL5 kicks in 
when turning WIDTH.


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Re: [Elecraft] Burdick watch!

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO


Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 Elecraft brings new meaning to the phrase customer responsiveness!
 
 AD6XY Q:  Sun May 4 06:42:20 EDT 2008
 K6KR A:  May 4 09:11:35 EDT 2008
 
 G4ILO Q:  Sun May 4 07:06:38 EDT 2008
 KK7P A:  Sun May 4 14:47:18 EDT 2008
 
 NW8L Q:  Sun May 4 02:39:45 EDT 2008
 KK7P A:  Sun May 4 11:00:10 EDT 2008
 
 OE9FWV Q:  Sun May 4 08:38:05 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 13:04:19 EDT 2008
 
 N9BX Q:  Sat May 3 22:05:52 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sat May 3 23:43:26 EDT 2008
 
 N2BC Q:  Sun May 4 07:23:53 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 11:34:10 EDT 2008
 
 W1ZR Q:  Sun May 4 07:20:48 EDT 2008
 K6KR: A:  Sun May 4 09:09:30 EDT 2008
 
 G0VGS Q:  Sun May 4 08:54:00 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 12:02:53 EDT 2008
 
 K8MBY Q:  Sun May 4 11:10:22 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 11:56:22 EDT 2008
 
 AA1O Q:  Sun May 4 13:31:44 EDT 2008
 KK7P A:  Sun May 4 14:03:55 EDT 2008
 
 VP8NO Q:  Sun May 4 14:27:24 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 14:34:23 EDT 2008
 
 LY2IJ Q:  Sun May 4 14:23:04 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 14:08:41 EDT 2008
 
 G4AON Q:  Sun May 4 14:48:39 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 15:44:22 EDT 2008
 
 G3SJJ Q:  Sun May 4 15:32:48 EDT 2008
 N6KR A:  Sun May 4 15:37:33 EDT 2008
 
 Wow!  Have you ever asked a question of competitors (on a weekend no
 less!) and seen such responsiveness directly from the company management?  
 
 This is why IMHO Elecraft will continue to gain market share in leaps and
 bounds.  Competitors beware...you were warned!
 
 73,  Bill  W4ZV
 
That list misses out one reply from N6KR to me that didn't go to the list.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 #679

2008-05-04 Thread Bill W5WVO

Gary Gregory wrote:


... again, many, many thanks Elecraft...this
radio is going with me after I am done in this world
and I am sure I can TX from wherever I go next.


Um, better get an upgrade to the MIL-spec temperature range boards if you 
think you might have to take it to that... other place. :-)


(BTW, what's the prefix for that entity?)

Bill W5WVO

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread Bob Cunnings
I agree that auto-spot doesn't seem as reliable as in earlier
versions. When I inject a continuous tone,  it works fine, always
coming within a few Hz. For actual cw signals it now seems to be more
easily fooled, often tuning low - noticeably different to me, one who
uses the feature constantly. In previous versions I rarely needed to
press spot more than once, and repeated invocation of auto-spot
resulted in little change of frequency (a few Hz or so if the signal
was stable). Now, once tuned in, repeated pressing of spot often
results in the frequency jumping around some tens of Hz, rather than
the more repeatable performance in earlier versions.

I noticed it right away when operating cw today.

Bob NW8L

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   * AUTO-SPOT (SPOT with CWT ON) now works with both very
weak and very strong signals.
   
Auto-spot consistently tunes to a tone 50 Hz low (50 Hz below
the value set for pitch).
  
   I can't duplicate this. I tried various sidetone pitches and
   found that auto-spot got to within a few Hz every time. What
   sidetone pitch are you using? I suppose some kind of band noise
   could interfere with the operation of CWT as well.

  I first noticed it with a CW pitch of 600 Hz.  The auto spot will
  eventually zero in after three or four tries but my ear is more
  accurate than the auto-spot.  It may be band noise or simply timing
  out between CW characters because it is always accurate with a
  continuous tone (e.g. XG-2).



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[Elecraft] K3 FW 1.87 problem

2008-05-04 Thread John Reiser
Hi,

Since getting my K3 # 384 in mid February, I have become an avid fan of PSK31 
and RTTY.  In my 50 years as a ham, I never used the digital modes before I got 
the K3.

Everything worked fine for me until I updated to version 1.87 this morning.

As usual, I set the windows XP volume control (audio out) slider to half way.  
I set the line control on the K3 to 2.  For PSK31 I set the power out to 25 
watts.  I use the Digipan software and DATA  A for PSK31. For RTTY I use the 
MMTTY software and MFSK A.  

With that setup and FW v. 1.78 I would have no bars showing for ALC (as it 
should be for digital modes) and 3-4 bars showing for RF out (25-30 watts).  
For RTTY I had used 100 watts out with the same line level setting of 2.

I had been very successful in making over 200 digital QSOs in 86 countries in a 
little over two months.

Now with FW v. 1.87, I find that I get 5 bars of ALC with a line-in level 
setting of 2.  And, I get virtually no RF output (1 bar) unless I set the RF 
out asked-for to 50 watts.  At the 50 watt-asked  setting I get about 25 watts 
out (with more heat).  If I drop the line-in level to 1, I get no ALC bars and 
also I get no RF out at any power-asked setting.  I haven't tried RTTY yet with 
v. 1.87, but it is sure to be messed up too.

My conclusion is that while 1.87 contains a lot of good fixes, in the process 
the ALC behavior with respect to digital modes got broken.

Also, we really need more resolution for the line-in level control.  With 
v.1.87 it is essentially an on-off switch that goes from 0 to 5 bars on the ALC 
meter as one tunes between 1 an 2.

I'm just reporting my experiences with the new FW for what they are worth.  I 
know all these things will get fixed in time.  Meanwhile, I may have to fall 
back to 1.78.

Many thanks and 73,

John, W2GW

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 FIRMWARE UPDATE: MCU 1.87, DSP 1.69 (Finally!)

2008-05-04 Thread G4ILO

After posting about my problem with not getting the dialled up power output
in DATA A mode, it occurred to me that perhaps it might be a good idea to
run the Low-Power (5W) Wattmeter Calibration. When I assembled my K3 I never
had to touch this adjustment because it produced 5W as accurate as I could
measure it right out of the box.

Well, now I can't seem to get this to work.

I tuned to 20m (14.071 fwiw), put the ATU out of circuit and connected my
dummy load power meter to ANT1, which is selected. I set PWR=5.0. In the
CONFIG menu I located the WMTR LP menu entry, which has the value 100. When
I press TUNE the power meter reads 3W, which perhaps not coincidentally is
the power level I set for tuning using the TUN PWR menu entry. When I press
TUNE the SWR is displayed not the value of WMTR LP, and rotating the VFO A
knob seems to have no effect on the output power anyway.

I don't think there is anything wrong with the power meter calibration as
PWR=5.0 produces 5W on CW and FM, but how exactly is the low power wattmeter
calibration supposed to work?

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Re: [Elecraft] 80M on KX1

2008-05-04 Thread Paul - VE1DY
I Tom,

I use the antenna suggested by Bruce Prior (N7RR) on QRP-L, which is
67' - 9 with a counterpoise of 33'.

Please have a look at my KX1-Canso Causeway web page for further details.
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/ppike/csway.html


Good luck,

73, Paul   -ve1dy-



On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:40 AM, T W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Group,
  Can anyone tell me what length of end-fed line works best on 80M using a KX1
  with ATU?

  Cheers,
  Tom

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