Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters and TX IMD

2009-01-25 Thread Jay Bromley
Hi Jan,
I don't think the K3/100's -29 dB for TX IMD is all that far out of line 
with today's 100 watt class rig.  In fact most 100 watt 13.8 volt rigs are a 
dB or two from this.  I think the K3 QRP rig wasn't this good on bands above 
17m @ higher power, but still measured -27 dB.  Although it would be nice to 
have it much better (mid 30s or even in the 40s), even my Icom 7700 is was 
only measured @ -28dB with MRF150 final with 48 volts on them.  Seems very 
rare for a current rig to be in the high -30s and -40s.

So I am not sure what the bench mark would be on TX IMD these days or if  we 
could afford it?

Question, can you hear IMD off the air or just the artifacts?

As Wayne said earlier everything is a trade off.

73 de jay/w5jay..


- Original Message - 
From: "Jan Erik Holm" 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] 6 Meters and TX IMD


Elecraft K3 is sold as a "High Performance Radio",
this is in print clearly stated on the web page.

The 6m RX in K3 can not be called high performance.
With a NF of above 10 and MDS as it is.

The transmitter on SSB has so poor IMD that it can
not be called high performance. ARRL and many others
has measured poor TX IMD. I hear K3´s on the air
every day with poor SSB TX IMD. People do have
problems with PSK and other digital modes due to
poor TX performance.

IMO 6m is fixed with the preamp, no big issue anymore.
However it should be stated in advertisement that for
high performance on 6m K3 needs a preamp.

Then we have the transmitter, what to do?? The problem
has been swept under the carpet and it doesn´t go
away by itself, it is stil there, under the carpet.

73 Jim SM2EKM
--
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> I can't speak for the engineering or product decisions that went into
> offering 6 meters with the K3, but for an excellent low-noise 6 meter
> capability Elecraft does offer the XV50 transverter which is well 
> integrated
> into the K3 and K2 rigs offering direct frequency readout, all of the
> capabilities of the base K3 (or K2), and the 6 meter band becomes part of
> the band selection just like the HF bands.
>
> The XV144, 222 and 432 round out the same capability, letting you cycle
> through bands using the K2 or K3 bandswitch from 160 through 70 cm with 
> one
> rig, and each of the VHF/UHF transverters has a low-noise high-performance
> receive front end designed specifically for that band.
>
> As Wayne's often mentioned here, the advanced up-conversion design of the 
> K3
> is superior for HF but makes incorporating VHF a real challenge. Using an 
> XV
> transverter specifically designed for each VHF band keeps the K3 (or K2)
> operating as a tunable I.F. in the HF (28 MHz) range.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:34:03 -0500
>   "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:
>> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other bands
> with
>> the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are screaming from the
> FT
>> 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna switch.  Guess I better
> get
>> a Preamp in line quickly.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> Philip LaMarche
>> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>>  www.instantgourmetspices.com
>>
>> www.w9dvm.com 
>> 800-395-7795 pin 02
>> 727-944-3226
>> FAX 727-937-8834
>> NASFT 30210
>> W9DVM
> 
> *
>
> Phil,
>
> You're right about the 6mtr. band being practically deaf in the K3!!!  I 
> did
> order the 6m. preamp
> because of
> that short-coming! But you would have thought that the BOYZ @ Elecraft
> would'nt have short-changed
> 6m sensitivity as ALL THE OTHER BANDS HEAR WELL!!!
>
> Why build a quality rig if one-band is only added as a "after-thought"???
>
> Jim/nn6ee
> S/N 2406
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in 160 contest

2009-01-25 Thread Gary NL7Y


I've found that with the 200Hz filter enabled in both of my receivers via
diversity reception mode, BW set to 150 or less, that weak sigs pop out of
my high S5 city noise floor like the best audio APF enabled rigs I've owned
(many). Elecraft has a Genie of sorts helping us on CW, and no filter
ringing that I care to mention.

Amazing, and thank you Elecraft for my fun in the 160M CQ test.

73 Gary NL7Y
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[Elecraft] 6 Meters and TX IMD

2009-01-25 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Elecraft K3 is sold as a "High Performance Radio",
this is in print clearly stated on the web page.

The 6m RX in K3 can not be called high performance.
With a NF of above 10 and MDS as it is.

The transmitter on SSB has so poor IMD that it can
not be called high performance. ARRL and many others
has measured poor TX IMD. I hear K3´s on the air
every day with poor SSB TX IMD. People do have
problems with PSK and other digital modes due to
poor TX performance.

IMO 6m is fixed with the preamp, no big issue anymore.
However it should be stated in advertisement that for
high performance on 6m K3 needs a preamp.

Then we have the transmitter, what to do?? The problem
has been swept under the carpet and it doesn´t go
away by itself, it is stil there, under the carpet.

73 Jim SM2EKM
--
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> I can't speak for the engineering or product decisions that went into
> offering 6 meters with the K3, but for an excellent low-noise 6 meter
> capability Elecraft does offer the XV50 transverter which is well integrated
> into the K3 and K2 rigs offering direct frequency readout, all of the
> capabilities of the base K3 (or K2), and the 6 meter band becomes part of
> the band selection just like the HF bands.
> 
> The XV144, 222 and 432 round out the same capability, letting you cycle
> through bands using the K2 or K3 bandswitch from 160 through 70 cm with one
> rig, and each of the VHF/UHF transverters has a low-noise high-performance
> receive front end designed specifically for that band. 
> 
> As Wayne's often mentioned here, the advanced up-conversion design of the K3
> is superior for HF but makes incorporating VHF a real challenge. Using an XV
> transverter specifically designed for each VHF band keeps the K3 (or K2)
> operating as a tunable I.F. in the HF (28 MHz) range. 
> 
> Ron AC7AC
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:34:03 -0500
>   "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:
>> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other bands
> with
>> the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are screaming from the
> FT
>> 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna switch.  Guess I better
> get
>> a Preamp in line quickly.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> Philip LaMarche 
>> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>>  www.instantgourmetspices.com
>>
>> www.w9dvm.com   
>> 800-395-7795 pin 02 
>> 727-944-3226 
>> FAX 727-937-8834 
>> NASFT 30210 
>> W9DVM 
> 
> *
> 
> Phil,
> 
> You're right about the 6mtr. band being practically deaf in the K3!!!  I did
> order the 6m. preamp 
> because of
> that short-coming! But you would have thought that the BOYZ @ Elecraft
> would'nt have short-changed
> 6m sensitivity as ALL THE OTHER BANDS HEAR WELL!!!
> 
> Why build a quality rig if one-band is only added as a "after-thought"???
> 
> Jim/nn6ee
> S/N 2406
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature

2009-01-25 Thread wayne burdick
> Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot
> warmer, even on receive with the sub receiver turned off.

The aux DSP adds around 100 mA even when the sub receiver is turned 
off, as I recall, so some increase in temperature is normal. The KRX3 
module itself adds nearly zero current when turned off, and I don't 
believe it could cause any increase in temperature since just due to 
its location above the RF board. When turned on, the KRX3 adds about 
150-200 mA.

All of the components are rated to handle much higher temperatures than 
you normally encounter (typically 70 C). However, I've never seen an FP 
temperature of higher than 41C, so if you're seeing 44C, you might 
check your FP temp calibration.

Even 44C is very unlikely to be a problem.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature

2009-01-25 Thread Frank R. Oppedijk
Hi Barry,

I have noticed the same. Here also, the FP temp settles at roughly 
36C, receive only. This is much warmer than before I fitted the KRX3. 
Ambient temperature here is about 20C. I have not investigated this 
phenomenon any further yet. I do consider it to be a bit warmer than 
normal operating temperatures...

73,

Frank PA4N


At 05:42 26/01/2009, Barry Simpson wrote:
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> boundary="=_NextPart_000_0193_01C97F70.804F5FC0"
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>
>Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot 
>warmer, even on receive with the sub receiver turned off.
>
>In particular the front half of the right hand side panel is almost 
>hot and the front right hand corner of the top cover is also very warm.
>
>Before the second receiver installation the PA and FP temperatures 
>ran about the same, in the high 20's if I remember. Just now the FP 
>temperature is nudging 44 degrees C and the PA is 36 C. This is 
>after the rig has been on for several hours, receive only, although 
>it quickly heats up to these temperatures when it is switched on.
>
>I am guessing that the air flow and thus the cooling ability of the 
>rig has been significantly impaired by the KRX3 and this is causing 
>the very high temperatures. I wonder if this has any long term 
>reliability implications ?
>
>I also wonder if others are experiencing similar temperature issues 
>with KRX3's installed as I do not recall seeing any postings on the subject.
>
>Barry Simpson  VK2BJ
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Main vs. Config Menus

2009-01-25 Thread Tony Fegan VE3QF
Mike,
I thought about this some time ago but as I got used to the present 
arrangement subsequently forgot about it. I can never remember which 
items are in the MENU, which were in the CONFIG and which require TECH MD.

Would it be possible to start out with everything in the CONFIG and 
have an option to move your personal choice of items, you regularly 
change while operating, to the MENU.
By saving your settings you could even have different MENU items for 
SSB, for CW and for DATA. The appropriate settings could be loaded 
before a contest. The list of MENU items could be very small for fast 
access. Perhaps items could be sent to the MENU by MODE or even 
operation type (contest, DX chasing, 160M, 6M)?

If its just a couple of items then the PF keys can be used but you have 
to set that up.
I don't know whether many K3 owners would be interested in such a 
feature. How many times do you use MENU/CONFIG during normal operation? 
It seems that we never stop asking for changes to the firmware but a 
healthy discussion usually produces better ways of getting the most out 
of the K3 which may, or may not, require a firmware change. (We are 
always thinking of you Wayne... Lyle...!)

73
Tony Fegan VE3QF
K3 #137




Mike Scott wrote:
> I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t understand the K3 Main vs. 
> Config menus. The Main menu is supposedly the menu of items that one 
> would need to select the most often. Well for me, I almost never visit 
> the main menu. I will visit the Config menu almost every day. It seems 
> that my experience is just the opposite of what was planned for the 
> menus. Maybe someone should take a statistical measure of the menu items 
> most needed and place the top ten items in the Main menu. I would bet 
> that the top ten items are not in the current Main Menu at all.
> 
>  
> 
> Mike Scott
> 
> AE6WA Tarzana, CA
> 
> K3/100 SN508
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 temperature

2009-01-25 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Barry,

I installed the KRX3 in #24 here last week.  My experience with temps
is different from yours.

Ambient temp:  22C
FP temp: 23C
PA temp 34C
(this is right now - in the middle of NA winter)

Chassis exterior doesn't have temps any different from before the KRX3
went in here.  At least not so far.

This was after the K3 had been sitting on for most of the afternoon.
Now, it's possible that your ambient temp is different, given that you
are set right in the middle of Summer there.  However, I recorded FP
and PA temps no higher than 36/48 here last summer.  This was due to
the fact that I was running a lot of high duty cycle PSK31 QSO's at
the time.  The ambient open-house temp was 35C, which is a little
warm.  And believe me, the fans were running!  We were open-house
because of a power outage, and with solar power the only inconvience
was sweat.

You might want to look at how your cables are dressed, esp. the one at
the back from ANT receptacle to the KRX3.  If your fans can't get
started, this might explain the high-temp problem.  If the cable is
laying across the fan(s)

Also - make sure the KRX3 shield box isn't contacting anything on the
RF Board.  Check your DC power supply's metering to see if it pulls
appreciably more current with the KRX3 installed.

It seems unlikely that the KRX3 is the problem.  But I'm not in your
shoes.

73,
matt, W6NIA

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:42:30 +, you wrote:

>Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot warmer,
>even on receive with the sub receiver turned off.
>
> 
>
>In particular the front half of the right hand side panel is almost hot and
>the front right hand corner of the top cover is also very warm.
>
> 
>
>Before the second receiver installation the PA and FP temperatures ran about
>the same, in the high 20's if I remember. Just now the FP temperature is
>nudging 44 degrees C and the PA is 36 C. This is after the rig has been on
>for several hours, receive only, although it quickly heats up to these
>temperatures when it is switched on.
>
> 
>
>I am guessing that the air flow and thus the cooling ability of the rig has
>been significantly impaired by the KRX3 and this is causing the very high
>temperatures. I wonder if this has any long term reliability implications ?
>
> 
>
>I also wonder if others are experiencing similar temperature issues with
>KRX3's installed as I do not recall seeing any postings on the subject.
>
> 
>
>Barry Simpson  VK2BJ
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[Elecraft] K3 temperature

2009-01-25 Thread Ken Kopp
Mine (S/N 56) with a 2nd receiver has been turned on
all day, and I see the PA @ 23C and the FP @ 29C.
The room ambient is 63F

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3 temperature

2009-01-25 Thread Barry Simpson
Since I fitted the second receiver, my K3 is running a whole lot warmer,
even on receive with the sub receiver turned off.

 

In particular the front half of the right hand side panel is almost hot and
the front right hand corner of the top cover is also very warm.

 

Before the second receiver installation the PA and FP temperatures ran about
the same, in the high 20's if I remember. Just now the FP temperature is
nudging 44 degrees C and the PA is 36 C. This is after the rig has been on
for several hours, receive only, although it quickly heats up to these
temperatures when it is switched on.

 

I am guessing that the air flow and thus the cooling ability of the rig has
been significantly impaired by the KRX3 and this is causing the very high
temperatures. I wonder if this has any long term reliability implications ?

 

I also wonder if others are experiencing similar temperature issues with
KRX3's installed as I do not recall seeing any postings on the subject.

 

Barry Simpson  VK2BJ

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: W7FG a Silent Key

2009-01-25 Thread Jennifer Gompf Berryman

http://sites.google.com/site/w7fgsilentkey/Home

Above is a web site that I put together for my dad. I hope it works, and if
not please let me know. 
Thank you. 






Ken Kopp-3 wrote:
> 
> Long-time friend Gary Gompf, W7FG became a Silent Key on 
> the evening of January 22nd.  He was the owner of W7FG Antennas 
> and W7FG Manuals.  
> 
> He and Karolina visited us just a few weeks ago.
> 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for January 25th, 2009

2009-01-25 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   The band was quite happy today!  So much so that I was having problems 
discerning separate signals ;)  More than once I had to call again to attempt 
to get one character out of the howl.  Stations checked in from Connecticut to 
Southern California and from Georgia to Oregon.  Only a couple had QSB so then 
they too jumped up to at least S5.  It was very nice after some of the problems 
we have been having with propagation lately.  I took a flakey tuner out of the 
antenna path which made some improvement and did a little work on the higher of 
my two antennas.  A good spring day will be required to do all the work 
necessary to unwrap the lower antenna from its trapped location amoungst the 
branches.  A couple raising and lowering operations with some pulling in 
between will get it free but that means I will be up and down the ladder a lot. 
 
   From the reports I heard winter is back; in force for some and in a pleasant 
way for others.  The California stations spoke of rain.  I know my southern 
neighbors would like to fill their reservoirs and water their lawns before 
summer returns.  I would gladly send the clouds down there to get some sun now 
and then.  There are times during the winter months when the sun is only a fond 
memory.  Waysides east of Hood River, Oregon are filled with RVs of folks 
trying to find a day or two of sun in their vacation from between the Cascades 
and the Coast Range.  However spring is only a month or so away if you follow 
the calendar of the hummingbirds.  They start flitting in during the late part 
of February.  Since there are not many flowers then they must survive on the 
tiny insects which hatch around that time.  
   On to the list =>

   On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820  QNI #55!!!
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K3 - 642   * QNI #115 *
K9ZTV - Kent - MO - K3 - 21 
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
W0JFR - John - CO - K3 - 994
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K1 - 553
K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686
NS7P - Phil - OR - K3 - 1826
W0NTA - Dick - CO - K2 - 4141 
WS7L - Carl - OR - K3 - 486

   Hopefully next week will have similar or even better conditions.  The sun is 
definitely on its way back.  During my morning sked I track when the sun pops 
up over the mountain on the clear or hazy days.  There is one anomaly when it 
rises in a notch in the mountain but that is only for a day or two and then it 
is back to its normal progression until it clears the mountain entirely from 
daybreak until sunset.  Soon we will read if the ground hog in Wisconsin 
foresees an early or a later spring for those in the Midwest.  It is time to 
get in the last month or two of iceboating and ice fishing before the breakup.  
And then, in a matter of a day or two, the lakes will be clear and the 
sailboats will appear.  At the ARES meeting last week I had a discussion with 
another operator about the fall colors so I am feeling a little homesick.  
Maybe one day I will move back home.
   Until next week I hope you stay warm and stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class)

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[Elecraft] K1 rigs for sale

2009-01-25 Thread jde1033

#1. K1-2 with KNB1. s/n 13XX
  For 80 & 40M QRP frequencies.
   Price $260 US $, plus shipping & insurance.
 
#2. K1-4 with KAT1 antenna tuner.  s/n 19XX
  For 40-30-20 & 15M QRP frequencies.
   Price, $375 US $, plus shipping & insurance.
  Reason for selling, Vision loss (AMD)
   Prices are firm, do not wish to haggle or trade.
    Please contact me at my e-mail address.
    Jack,  VE3BHW



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[Elecraft] [K3] Main vs. Config Menus

2009-01-25 Thread Mike Scott
I don't know about anyone else but I don't understand the K3 Main vs. Config
menus. The Main menu is supposedly the menu of items that one would need to
select the most often. Well for me, I almost never visit the main menu. I
will visit the Config menu almost every day. It seems that my experience is
just the opposite of what was planned for the menus. Maybe someone should
take a statistical measure of the menu items most needed and place the top
ten items in the Main menu. I would bet that the top ten items are not in
the current Main Menu at all.

 

Mike Scott

AE6WA Tarzana, CA

K3/100 SN508

 

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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

2009-01-25 Thread Jay Bromley
Hi Jim,
No worries on this.

Yes I am blessed thank you and probably my K3 is as well if you knew the 
full story.  The serial number of this one is # 791 and the one I used last 
summer on 6m was #850.

I think anyone that knows me, including Wayne and Eric, would not classified 
me as a person that thinks Elecraft can do "no wrong".  Eric I am sure will 
tell you different.  However they and their staff sure do a lot that is 
right.  They do try their best to make it right with you if something is 
wrong!  Jim, I trust me I wasn't judging you or others having a problem with 
6m sensitivity from the front roll of the Elecraft Church.

Without getting emotional I was making a statement as to maybe the cause.  I 
was not implying that you or others don't have a problem.  I am sure there 
is something going on, I wish we were closer so I could offer a hand in 
running down the problem.

Here is the run down of my station that I don't usually give as it changes 
almost daily.  During the month of June 2008 the shack consisted of serial # 
850 K3, TS-480, IC-756 Pro 3, and a IC 7700.  Again my antenna setup was a 
meager for 6m, just a 3 element mono-bander with almost no feedline going to 
it.  At no time did I find the K3 lacking in sensitivity on 6m compared to 
the other rigs and yes I did switch them in and out.  I did wonder why some 
other K3's seem to be deaf on 6m compared to TS-2000 or 746 Pro's as 
reported here on the reflector.  At  my station the result was not the same 
as some report here and so I kept the K3 on the 6m beam, while using the 
other rigs for HF.  Later postings from Wayne explain things on the design 
of the K3 and then the new 6m pre-amp, so I quit wondering so much.

Having said the above, I can also say the same thing in reverse.  I chase a 
lot of weak signal work with wire only antennas and at no time is there a 
distinct advantage between the K3 and say the Pro 3 or even the 7700.  All 
rigs have their pluses and minuses, plus I am pretty good at wheeling the 
knobs on the various rigs.  I am not running a contest station here with 
mega power, multiple antennas, SO2R, etc.  If I was running SO2R or similar 
setup I might be more biased towards the K3 and move up to the front pew of 
the church.  I will say this, under strong RF conditions I have never seen a 
rig hold up better than the Elecrafts.  The kind of RF levels most shacks 
will never have to deal with.  This has nothing to do with 6 meters or your 
problem, but the above was to let you know I am far from being an Elecraft 
groupie.  Not that being a groupie would be all that bad either.

Jim I do wish you luck with your problem and I meant no offense in my 
posting to you or others on this list.

73 de jay/w5jay..


> Jay,
>
> Maybe you're blessed or you don't think that "Elecraft" can do no wrong! 
> What I and others are
> saying is that in OUR SITUATIONS the 6mtr. section sucks! That's why we're 
> procuring the 6m.
> PREAMP, in that we still have faith in the "K3" overall!!!
>
> Jim/nn6ee
> S/N 2406  (even this high # 6m. LACKS HUGELY!!!
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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread wayne burdick
Ian,

Much forethought was put into this (at the design stage). We knew ahead 
of time that the 6-m MDS was going to be in the -135 dBm  range with 
the internal preamp, due to the losses in the T-R switching and narrow 
band-pass filtering. Both were required for this design.

A separate 6-m preamp would only have boosted 6-m MDS by a couple of dB 
because it follows the other front-end losses. Thus we elected -- from 
the start -- to provide for an *external* 6-m preamp, patched between 
RX ANT IN/OUT. With this solution, we get a world-class 6-m MDS in the 
-144 dBm range, and you don't pay for it unless you need it.

Every rig has tradeoffs. This was one of ours.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

Ian White GM3SEK wrote:

>> As Wayne's often mentioned here, the advanced up-conversion design of
>> the K3 is superior for HF but makes incorporating VHF a real 
>> challenge.
>
> No challenge at all... had it been thought about at the design stage.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft ssb net today

2009-01-25 Thread Phil and Christina
Hi John,

Sorry that you missed the QSY.  I thought that the previous QSOs were
wrapping up by 1800Z on 14316.  The same basic group had gone QRT at that
time on previous weeks.  Unfortunately, they didn't, and I could barely hear
those remaining.  We did a quick look around and found 14319 open.  We then
announced that and QSYed.  I will look for a more elegant approach next
week, including asking any non-Elecrafter if they would like to join us on
14316.  I am new to the NCS thing.  We will refine it as we go.  Thank you
for your patience.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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I was able to pick up the beginning of the net at 1800z and got a light but
workable signal here in Marathon, FL.  Another net or maybe a 3 party-qso
was
already in progress on 14316 and I had to listen between their louder
conversation - an interesting one too.  I didn't get the qsy to  14319.  too
bad.  I
don't know how other cross country nets operate,  but would it be a good
idea
if the first order of business was to ascertain if  the frequency was in use
anywhere there were Elecrafters and then QSY  accordingly?

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - RF Board part 2

2009-01-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
At this point of construction, the 40 meter receiver should be as good 
as it gets - the following assembly only adds the other bands and the 
transmit section.

You do have a problem somewhere that should be investigated.

The easiest first step is to try the "Quick and Dirty Signal Tracing" 
technique that is in the Builder's Resource page at the Elecraft 
website.  If that does not reveal the area of failure, then one can 
resort to the Receiver Signal Tracing steps in Appendix E of the manual.

73,
Don W3FPR

David J. Wallace wrote:
> Hello Elecraft(ers)!
>
> I just wrapped up part II of the RF board assembly, test, and alignment. 
> I was elated to discover that all the VCO values were in range and that 
> I could hear my KX1 screaming in the headphones attached to the K2. But 
> I have a question - I brought the K2 upstairs and attached it to my 
> outdoor dipole... verified that there was plenty of activity on 40m with 
> my FT840... but didn't hear a THING in the K2. Didn't even hear a blip 
> when I removed/re-attached the antenna cable. I am guessing that the 
> circuitry isn't built up enough to bring in signals generated more than 
> a few feet away, but I don't know... I don't feel that I have the RF 
> electronics background necessary to build this thing, but I'm darn good 
> at soldering and construction :) Should I be concerned or should I move 
> on and finish this thing??
>
> I completed the KX1 this past fall... only made one contact (due to 
> time/effort constraints) but it was a good 300 miles away or so... so 
> I'm really excited to get this rig on the air!!
>
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[Elecraft] Elecraft ssb net today

2009-01-25 Thread Jferg977
I was able to pick up the beginning of the net at 1800z and got a light but  
workable signal here in Marathon, FL.  Another net or maybe a 3 party-qso  was 
already in progress on 14316 and I had to listen between their louder  
conversation - an interesting one too.  I didn't get the qsy to  14319.  too 
bad.  I 
don't know how other cross country nets operate,  but would it be a good idea 
if the first order of business was to ascertain if  the frequency was in use 
anywhere there were Elecrafters and then QSY  accordingly?
 
John Ferguson
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 in 160 contest

2009-01-25 Thread Barry N1EU


Bob Evans-6 wrote:
> 
> I generally stayed below 350 hz BW for most of the weekend.  I
> like my 500 hz filter, but I may actually have talked myself into getting
> the 250 hz filter to fill my remaining slot.  
Up until now I thought the 500hz filter was all anybody really needed in
tough contest conditions.  This was partly based on 4 years of experience
with an Orion/600hz roofing filter.  But I have finally become a "believer"
in the narrow cw roofing filter (I've got 500hz and 200hz in my K3 main/sub)
after this weekend's contest.  I left my K3 at 200hz for a large part of the
contest.  

The K3 performed phenomenally, although QSK subrx audio was a bit noisy due
to protection relay switching on/off (Beverage ants are 100-200ft away from
tx antenna).  

73,
Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>
>As Wayne's often mentioned here, the advanced up-conversion design of 
>the K3 is superior for HF but makes incorporating VHF a real challenge.

No challenge at all... had it been thought about at the design stage.

Since the K3 is top-of-the-line in so many other respects, it rankles 
that the 6m sensitivity is poorer than that of many 'inferior' 
transceivers. Even my old IC746 has a built-in alternative preamp for 6m 
which makes it easily capable of hearing antenna noise, which my K3 
cannot (and yes, it does meet the published sensitivity specification). 
Phil just discovered something very similar with his old FT100.

I'm not shouting or getting angry, but do remain quietly insistent that 
the inferior 6m sensitivity is a blemish on the K3's otherwise excellent 
performance. With great respect, it doesn't matter whether 6m is a 
minority interest or not; this is about excellence and what's needed to 
achieve it.

All the K3 does need for 6m is an alternative preamp with slightly more 
gain and a lower noise figure than the existing preamp (which was 
optimized mainly for strong signal handling). That's all it takes to 
shift the K3's window of dynamic range downward by several dB, which 
will make it capable of hearing antenna noise on 50MHz at a quiet site; 
which presently it isn't [1].

Although a preamp can improve the sensitivity by a few dB, the penalty 
is that a greater number of decibels must always be lost at the 
strong-signal end of the dynamic range. However, the K3 is better placed 
than any other transceiver to trade off a little of its dynamic range 
for a marked improvement in weak-signal performance.

The PR6 and many alternative preamps have proved those points. But the 
point that many people are making is that an adequate 6m preamp did not 
*have* to be an external accessory. Much of the size and complexity of 
the PR6 is due to its being an external unit. With forethought, 
something similar but *much* smaller and simpler could have been 
designed as an integral part of the KXV3 assembly - there's plenty of 
space in there. A selectable internal preamp is still possible as a 
modification involving a few track cuts (watch this space).

All the above can be expressed in more technical detail, in terms of 
antenna  noise temperatures and signal/noise ratio on weak signals, but 
that's the Sunday evening version... oops, Monday morning.



[1]  if anyone can distinctly hear 6m antenna noise on a bare K3, yours 
is not a "quiet" site. If you can't hear antenna noise but still claim 
to be able to hear "all the weak signals"... are you sure you've heard 
them *all*?


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[Elecraft] K2 - RF Board part 2

2009-01-25 Thread David J. Wallace
Hello Elecraft(ers)!

I just wrapped up part II of the RF board assembly, test, and alignment. 
I was elated to discover that all the VCO values were in range and that 
I could hear my KX1 screaming in the headphones attached to the K2. But 
I have a question - I brought the K2 upstairs and attached it to my 
outdoor dipole... verified that there was plenty of activity on 40m with 
my FT840... but didn't hear a THING in the K2. Didn't even hear a blip 
when I removed/re-attached the antenna cable. I am guessing that the 
circuitry isn't built up enough to bring in signals generated more than 
a few feet away, but I don't know... I don't feel that I have the RF 
electronics background necessary to build this thing, but I'm darn good 
at soldering and construction :) Should I be concerned or should I move 
on and finish this thing??

I completed the KX1 this past fall... only made one contact (due to 
time/effort constraints) but it was a good 300 miles away or so... so 
I'm really excited to get this rig on the air!!


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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

2009-01-25 Thread Lance Collister
JIM DAVIS wrote:
> Jay,
> 
> Maybe you're blessed or you don't think that "Elecraft" can do no wrong!  What
> I and others are saying is that in OUR SITUATIONS the 6mtr. section sucks!
> That's why we're procuring the 6m. PREAMP, in that we still have faith in the
> "K3" overall!!!
> 
> Jim/nn6ee S/N 2406  (even this high # 6m. LACKS HUGELY!!! 
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Howdy Jim,

The PR6 is really a neat contraption ;-)  The way it can be automatically 
switched 
on when you just move to the 6m band is quite clever.

Most commercial 6m radios have a front end noise figure around 6 dB and lack 
sensitivity on 6m in deference to better large signal handling capability.  As 
I 
recall, the stock K3 is somewhere around 12 or 13 dB.  You won't notice the 
lack 
of sensitivity when you have strong signals on 6m such as Es during June and 
July 
(or yesterday from the East Coast to Europe).  However, if you live in a quiet 
location, you will DEFINITELY gain some critical dB sensitivity when you try to 
copy very weak signals at the noise level (or BELOW the audible noise level, if 
you use the weak signal digital mode of JT65A).

With the addition of the PR6, you will have the hottest 6m receiver available 
anywhere in the world ;-)  Enjoy your new piece of equipment!  GL and VY 73, 
Lance

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: W7FG a Silent Key

2009-01-25 Thread Jennifer Gompf Berryman

I am Gary Gompf's Daughter, Jennifer. I just wanted to thank everyone for
remembering him. I know he knew so many fellow ham's I am going to attempt
to get a web page up for people to reflect, plus It will be a good thing for
me to do and keep busy. 









Ken Kopp-3 wrote:
> 
> Long-time friend Gary Gompf, W7FG became a Silent Key on 
> the evening of January 22nd.  He was the owner of W7FG Antennas 
> and W7FG Manuals.  
> 
> He and Karolina visited us just a few weeks ago.
> 
> Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3-QSO party

2009-01-25 Thread David Dunn
 K7CR said- "K3 -QSO Party sounds like fun !   The hard part will be to find
a weekend
> that is not inconflict with other events.  Exchange could be simply Name
and
> K3 Serial Number -.."

My first posting to this group,  (which I have been reading for some weeks)
May I add a comment or two?

The QSO party an excellent idea, but I have to comment on someone
suggestions of times, 0z  to 2400z   such figures are confusing
especially when  big time shifts like our 15 hours/ with USA etc.   Days are
irrelevant,  but Dates matter.  so start time should be 0001zon   X Date
  and finish should be 2359z on X date .
   Sorry folks just one of my little gripes. (Grumpy
old Man).

All I wish for is that my K3 which was first fired up after the kit build
about 3rd Nov,will eventually sprint into life.
It has worked, sort of, but constant problems have beset it and the mails
from me to Elecraft are flowing thick and fast.
Having said that, they are doing their best, with helping advice,  but
nearly 3 months  of frustration only goes to show the degree of patience I
have !!
   73 de David
VK3DBD/G3SCD
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Re: [Elecraft] 6mtrs! END OF THREAD

2009-01-25 Thread wayne burdick
We all know the facts, here: since the K3 was optimized for dynamic 
range, its sensitivity on 6 m is lower than some types of operation 
demand. Hence the PR6 preamp -- for those who want it.

We now continue with our regular civilized Elecraft reflector postings 
:)

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: W7FG a Silent Key

2009-01-25 Thread Phil and Christina
I never met Gary, but I love his open wire feedline and his manuals were
first rate.

73,

Phil, NS7P
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  At 11:49 AM 25/01/09, you wrote:

Long-time friend Gary Gompf, W7FG became a Silent Key on
the evening of January 22nd.  He was the owner of W7FG Antennas
and W7FG Manuals.

He and Karolina visited us just a few weeks ago.

Ken Kopp - K0PP

  Sorry to hear that. I met Gary in the early 70's while he was repairing
radios in Libby, MT. We had several eyeball Q's. A very nice guy. Will be
missed.

  John
  k7up

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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

2009-01-25 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:58:18 -
  "Ken Kopp"  wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> Using caps in a message is taken as shouting.
> 
> Your posts sound/read like bitching or anger.
> 
>FWIW
> 
> 73! Ken
> 
***

i guess that you feel very insecure when someone does not abide by your rules 
ken!!
so let's just say that i'll print whatever i want in either upper or lower case 
whenever and you
can go back to your "cubicle" and do whatever!!! if someone wants 
to use "upper-case" 
i
don't take offense!  why do you? is there any gentleman's agreement on that?  i 
don't think 
so!

OK???

Jim/nn6ee
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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

2009-01-25 Thread Jim
I really have not checked my K-3 out on 6 but just went to 6 meters on both
my Icoms and heard 2 different QSO's and then switched to my K-3 and it
appears to receive the stations just as well as a IC7000 & IC7700?



73 de KE4WY Jim

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:54:16 -
  "Ken Kopp"  wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> I don't think anyone's aimed anything at you ... at all.
> 
> Some (of us) are just saying that we have found no
> problem with our K3's on 6M ... nothing more.
> 
> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
> elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
> 
**
DEAR KEN,

I understand and I don't take offense, and I'm sure that the others out here
don't either!!
I'm not THE ONLY ONE WITH A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT OBVIOUSLY!!!  So let's not
single me out as the
"scape-goat" OK???  Others out here have expressed my own same complaints
about 6m as WELL!!!

Jim/nn6ee
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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

2009-01-25 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:54:16 -
  "Ken Kopp"  wrote:
> Jim,
> 
> I don't think anyone's aimed anything at you ... at all.
> 
> Some (of us) are just saying that we have found no
> problem with our K3's on 6M ... nothing more.
> 
> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
> elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
> 
**
DEAR KEN,

I understand and I don't take offense, and I'm sure that the others out here 
don't either!!
I'm not THE ONLY ONE WITH A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT OBVIOUSLY!!!  So let's not 
single me out as the
"scape-goat" OK???  Others out here have expressed my own same complaints about 
6m as WELL!!!

Jim/nn6ee
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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread W0FK

My K3 hears just fine. I compared it to the receiver in my IC-7800 today on
an XE2 from DL95 slipping into EM48. The K3 heard just as well, and actually
handled my line noise on 6M better. I listened using the PR6 with the rig
preamp in and out, just the internal preamp on, and no preamps at all 

Lou, W0FK 



Phil LaMarche-2 wrote:
> 
> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other bands
> with
> the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are screaming from the
> FT
> 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna switch.  Guess I better
> get
> a Preamp in line quickly.
>  
> Phil
>  
> 
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[Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

2009-01-25 Thread Ken Kopp
Jim,

I don't think anyone's aimed anything at you ... at all.

Some (of us) are just saying that we have found no
problem with our K3's on 6M ... nothing more.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) 6mtrs!

2009-01-25 Thread JIM DAVIS
Jay,

Maybe you're blessed or you don't think that "Elecraft" can do no wrong!  What 
I and others are
saying is that in OUR SITUATIONS the 6mtr. section sucks! That's why we're 
procuring the 6m.
PREAMP, in that we still have faith in the "K3" overall!!!

Jim/nn6ee
S/N 2406  (even this high # 6m. LACKS HUGELY!!!
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-receiver or 2 k3's

2009-01-25 Thread wayne burdick
"I have a dream"

:)

Wayne

Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> Perhaps it's time to revisit that concept with a K3 for each band, or 
> at
> least a K3 for each mode...


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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-receiver or 2 k3's

2009-01-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Back in the 1950's the "ultimate" Ham rig include a kilowatt amplifier for
each band, often stacked in a cabinet on the desktop or in a rack alongside
the desk (we still had to adjust our transmitters when we QSY'd in those
days). Separate amps allowed one to optimize the circuits and have them
pre-set for each band.

Perhaps it's time to revisit that concept with a K3 for each band, or at
least a K3 for each mode, so all the presets, tweaks and adjustments can be
made in advance and one only need select which rig to use! 

Picture a stack of at least four K3's optimized for SSB, CW, Data, and FM or
a stack of 11 of them to provide one per band.  

My fantasy doesn't quite reach to one per band and one per mode, but what a
sight that would be...

Ron AC7AC

--- On Sun, 1/25/09, N1IX  wrote:

> I was going to install the sub-receiver in my K3. 
> Then I thought it might me advantageous to have a second K3
> instead. 
> I need a back up radio also. Are there any opinions?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: W7FG a Silent Key

2009-01-25 Thread John

At 11:49 AM 25/01/09, you wrote:

Long-time friend Gary Gompf, W7FG became a Silent Key on
the evening of January 22nd.  He was the owner of W7FG Antennas
and W7FG Manuals.

He and Karolina visited us just a few weeks ago.

Ken Kopp - K0PP


Sorry to hear that. I met Gary in the early 70's while he was 
repairing radios in Libby, MT. We had several eyeball Q's. A very 
nice guy. Will be missed.


John
k7up

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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I can't speak for the engineering or product decisions that went into
offering 6 meters with the K3, but for an excellent low-noise 6 meter
capability Elecraft does offer the XV50 transverter which is well integrated
into the K3 and K2 rigs offering direct frequency readout, all of the
capabilities of the base K3 (or K2), and the 6 meter band becomes part of
the band selection just like the HF bands.

The XV144, 222 and 432 round out the same capability, letting you cycle
through bands using the K2 or K3 bandswitch from 160 through 70 cm with one
rig, and each of the VHF/UHF transverters has a low-noise high-performance
receive front end designed specifically for that band. 

As Wayne's often mentioned here, the advanced up-conversion design of the K3
is superior for HF but makes incorporating VHF a real challenge. Using an XV
transverter specifically designed for each VHF band keeps the K3 (or K2)
operating as a tunable I.F. in the HF (28 MHz) range. 

Ron AC7AC



-Original Message-

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:34:03 -0500
  "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:
> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other bands
with
> the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are screaming from the
FT
> 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna switch.  Guess I better
get
> a Preamp in line quickly.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> Philip LaMarche 
> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>  www.instantgourmetspices.com
> 
> www.w9dvm.com   
> 800-395-7795 pin 02 
> 727-944-3226 
>FAX 727-937-8834 
> NASFT 30210 
> W9DVM 

*

Phil,

You're right about the 6mtr. band being practically deaf in the K3!!!  I did
order the 6m. preamp 
because of
that short-coming! But you would have thought that the BOYZ @ Elecraft
would'nt have short-changed
6m sensitivity as ALL THE OTHER BANDS HEAR WELL!!!

Why build a quality rig if one-band is only added as a "after-thought"???

Jim/nn6ee
S/N 2406



  

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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread Jay Bromley
Hummm that is indeed weird.  When this was bought up last summer I thought 
my K3 must be special as I kept it on 6m the whole summer.  I would switch 
back and forth between rigs and never found the K3 lacking.

Could be my simple setup?  Not much feedline loss, the antenna is very low 
to the ground and near the shack.  Probably not over 25 feet of feedline.

73 de jay/w5jay..

>
> What's so amazing is that others tell me how good their K3 is on 6.  This 
> is
> a unit built by AB7R who is tops with Elecraft and it was checked out 
> before
> selling.  The other bands are wonderful.  Just a point, my Flex 1000 and
> Flex 5000 was the same way and part of the reason I switched.  Still happy 
> I
> did, especially with the Lp Pan which emulates Flex.  BUT to have an old 
> 400
> buck FT100 body slam it is quite puzzling.
>
> Phil
>
>
> Philip LaMarche
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>
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> 727-944-3226
> FAX 727-937-8834
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JIM DAVIS [mailto:nn...@astound.net]
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:12 PM
> To: Phil LaMarche; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters
>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:34:03 -0500
>  "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:
>> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other
>> bands with the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are
>> screaming from the FT 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna
>> switch.  Guess I better get a Preamp in line quickly.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> Philip LaMarche
>> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>>  www.instantgourmetspices.com
>>
>> www.w9dvm.com 
>> 800-395-7795 pin 02
>> 727-944-3226
>>FAX 727-937-8834
>> NASFT 30210
>> W9DVM
> 
> *
>
> Phil,
>
> You're right about the 6mtr. band being practically deaf in the K3!!!  I 
> did
> order the 6m. preamp because of that short-coming! But you would have
> thought that the BOYZ @ Elecraft would'nt have short-changed 6m 
> sensitivity
> as ALL THE OTHER BANDS HEAR WELL!!!
>
> Why build a quality rig if one-band is only added as a "after-thought"???
>
> Jim/nn6ee
> S/N 2406
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-receiver or 2 k3's

2009-01-25 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Two K3s would be better than one Dave, but would not give you the automatic 
muting you need for diversity receive and the benefits of two receivers.  With 
two K3s I think I would want one or both to have two receivers.  I am happy 
with one K3 and two receivers with a couple of Kenwoods for backup, but I would 
trade a well used TS 850 or a lightly used TS 440 for a second K3 without 
hesitation

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ


--- On Sun, 1/25/09, N1IX  wrote:

> From: N1IX 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Sub-receiver or 2 k3's
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 10:17 AM
> I was going to install the sub-receiver in my K3. 
> Then I thought it might me advantageous to have a second K3
> instead. 
> I need a back up radio also. Are there any opinions?
> 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (1/25/09)

2009-01-25 Thread Phil and Christina

We held the SSB net this morning (1800Z).  An ongoing QSO on 14316 caused us
to move up 3 kc to 14319 kHz.  Thank you to those who put the frequency
change on the reflector.  My apologies to those who missed the QSY.  The
signals from most of the country were fairly good to the net control in
Oregon (S6 to S9+).  There were a couple of PNW stations that got missed
however.  Next week we will look harder for relays.  One that we think we
pulled through at the end is W7BRS.  Jeff was that you?  Counting W7BRS,
there were 23 of us in total (7 more than last week) over about 25 minutes.

Here is a list of the participants:

Station NameQTH Rig S/N

W6GBG   Allan   AL  K3  2252
K8MBY   PhilOH  K3  609
N1LQDavid   MA  K3  371
KE4WY   Jim KY  K3
VE3QF   TonyONT K3  137
AE2JAlanNY  K3
W9DVM   PhilFL  K3
AB2TC   Ken NY  K3  82
KI6RRN  AlexCA  857
K8DJC   Nelson  OH  K3
K9NWA   Bob WI  FT767
WA3ZBJ  Don FL
WB6HPF  Al  CA  K3
K8EAG   Gil MI  K3
AE5JD   BartTX  K3  2106
AI4VZ   George  GA  K3
W0EWM   Merle   MO  K3  2466
AB9VMikeIN  K3  398
W4RYW   Gil AL  K3  705
KC5TY   George  NM  K3
W8YMO   Harry   OH  K3
W7BRS   JeffWA  K3  2105Was this you in there?
NS7PPhilOR  K3  1826

It seems like we are doing better each week.  Thanks to everybody who
checked in.  It is great hearing all of the K3s.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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Re: [Elecraft] CW Tone

2009-01-25 Thread Tom, N5GE
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:17:05 -0500, you wrote:

>Tom,
>
>What you are missing is the ability to even conceive of the problem we 
>tone-deaf folks have.
>Yes, we can hear the 'warble', and once detected it is easy to get the 
>warble rate down very close to zero. The real problem for some of us is 
>in getting the two tones close enough to produce that 'warble'..
>I can hear two tones, and know that they are different, but my brain 
>cannot determine if I should increase or decrease the frequency of the 
>signal to get the two tones closer in pitch.
>
>For those who share my difficulty, tools such a Spectrogram and in the 
>K3, the CWT indicator are valuable aids.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR

Don,

Thanks for the explanation.  Now I understand.

Tom, N5GE
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Re: [Elecraft] CW

2009-01-25 Thread Dale Putnam

I agree with what you say with one comment... IF a pair or more of higher speed 
ops want to round table,
without seemingly "showing off" to the slower ops... where would they go? As it 
is, there is room, without that room... the only real answer is more power... 
and bigger antennas.. and that.. that alone would discourage any newcomer... or 
slower op.. even without a single cross or discourageing word.  Contest 
weekends are a different animal.. not talking about that. --... ...-- Dale - 
WC7S in Wy>
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[Elecraft] K3 S-Meter Calibration and SMTR MD abs

2009-01-25 Thread Dan Atchison
Just a quick question concerning the calibration of the K3 S-Meter and 
the use of configuration SMTR MD.



I have calibrated the K3's S-Meter using the manual calibration 
procedure (K3 Preamp ON).  Everything calibrates fine, but if I try to 
use configuration mode, SMTR MD abs as opposed to SMTR MD nor, the 
S-Meter does not show the "calibrated" results.  It shows the S-Meter 
reading of the K3 when it is in a "no attenuation, no preamp" 
condition.  This doesn't sound right to me.  Shouldn't SMTR MD abs show 
the calibrated indication (even with the preamp off and the attenuator 
enabled)?



Dan - N3ND
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Re: [Elecraft] [QRP-L] I love when the band is open

2009-01-25 Thread Dale Putnam

I need to find a venue to publish my antenna stuff... I've had numerous 
questions.. and I really enjoy sharing..
but with a bit more interaction than simply posting hmmm
any suggestions? 
 
Next, I'm taking my K2, and going to go finish the 160 test.. anyone interested 
can find me...in the lower 50 kc..or for the new folks.. Khz. *G*
 
any cycle.. by any name... is still a cycle, motor, bi, mono, freq... all the 
same... 
*chuckle*.. think I'll check out my motorhertz after the test... get it ready 
to ride...this spring...
 
man.. the snow has affected me... help me test my antennas.. on 160... 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread Phil LaMarche

Very strange.  Went to 6 on the K3 and my speaker was full of signals.
Worked Texas and Mexico with +9 signals.  This morning the 100 heard
everything and when switched to K3, hardly anything.  Maybe the K3 gods
helped.  I have 5 elements at 80 ft.

Phil 


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-Original Message-
From: Jack Colson [mailto:jcols...@tampabay.rr.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:10 PM
To: Phil LaMarche
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

50.062 SW of Ocala.  Down South in EL86 is W9DR and if I recall he is on
about 071.  I am hearing a TI and XE beacons now on 6 with my beam pointed
NE.
Good luck.
- Original Message -
From: "Phil LaMarche" 
To: "'Jack Colson'" 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] 6 Meters


>
> Thank you.  Do you know the frequency?
>
> Phil
>
>
> Philip LaMarche
> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
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>
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> 727-944-3226
> FAX 727-937-8834
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jack Colson [mailto:jcols...@tampabay.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:52 PM
> To: Phil LaMarche
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters
>
> Phil have you found a CW beacon to listen to on 6 meters?  There are 
> several in range of Tampa.  I have a homebuilt pre-amp for 6 and it 
> does make a difference but I can still copy the weak signals w/o the 
> external amp in the shack.  I have a FT-100D and it is a very hot 
> receiver.  If you look at the Sherwood measurements that is quite 
> obvious.
>
> 73
> Jack
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phil LaMarche" 
> To: "'JIM DAVIS'" ; 
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters
>
>
>>
>> What's so amazing is that others tell me how good their K3 is on 6.
>> This is
>> a unit built by AB7R who is tops with Elecraft and it was checked out
>> before
>> selling.  The other bands are wonderful.  Just a point, my Flex 1000
>> and
>> Flex 5000 was the same way and part of the reason I switched.  Still
>> happy I
>> did, especially with the Lp Pan which emulates Flex.  BUT to have an
>> old 400
>> buck FT100 body slam it is quite puzzling.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> Philip LaMarche
>> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>> www.instantgourmetspices.com
>>
>> www.w9dvm.com
>> 800-395-7795 pin 02
>> 727-944-3226
>> FAX 727-937-8834
>> NASFT 30210
>> W9DVM
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JIM DAVIS [mailto:nn...@astound.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:12 PM
>> To: Phil LaMarche; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:34:03 -0500
>>  "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:
>>> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other
>>> bands with the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are
>>> screaming from the FT 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an 
>>> antenna
>>> switch.  Guess I better get a Preamp in line quickly.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>> Philip LaMarche
>>> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>>>  www.instantgourmetspices.com
>>>
>>> www.w9dvm.com 
>>> 800-395-7795 pin 02
>>> 727-944-3226
>>>FAX 727-937-8834
>>> NASFT 30210
>>> W9DVM
>>
>

>> *
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> You're right about the 6mtr. band being practically deaf in the K3!!!
>> I did
>> order the 6m. preamp because of that short-coming! But you would have
>> thought that the BOYZ @ Elecraft would'nt have short-changed 6m
>> sensitivity
>> as ALL THE OTHER BANDS HEAR WELL!!!
>>
>> Why build a quality rig if one-band is only added as a
>> "after-thought"???
>>
>> Jim/nn6ee
>> S/N 2406
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] K3 6 Meter performance.

2009-01-25 Thread Ken Kopp
Phil, Jim, others ...

I've been using my K3 on 6M with good results.  It hears
well, even without a preamp in my quiet location.  I did
add a DEM preamp which, of course "helped" a bit, but
-not- to the extent that I was able to hear anything I could
not already hear with the basic K3.  

When they became available added the PR6 just to "keep 
it in the family" and it works well.  I sold the DEM pre-amp 
to a local friend with a K3.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3 and 6m

2009-01-25 Thread k1tl
I don't know what the problem with others who think that the K3 is "hard
of hearing" on 6m. I have not had any problems working DX with a 5ele
yagi up only 24 feet this past summer. Some of the signals were weak
but I had no problem picking them out of the noise. I was using the K3
internal pre-amp. I also had the Elecraft PR-6 pre-amp (beta version) and
used that a few times. It did bring up the noise with the weaker signals
but think the new PR-6 has a better s/n ratio.

I have a few stns in RI who run KW's but do not seem to de-sensitize
the K3 at all. It is rather difficult for a manufacturer to include the VHF/UHF
bands on an all HF rig, unless they make a separate rx for these bands
and that would definitely "jack up" the price of the rig.

I think Elecraft  did a great job in designing the K3 and their product
support is just superb...something you would not get out of the other
competitors.

Just my $0.02 worth and hope I don't stir up a hornets nest on this 
posting.

Tom/k1tl...
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC Now ON Up to 14.318

2009-01-25 Thread Adam Koczarski


> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Sam Morgan
> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:26 AM
> To: Phil LaMarche
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; 'Allan Bacon'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC Now ON
> Up to 14.318
> 
I could hear some of the east coast stations checking in here in Seattle,
but couldn't hear net control. A relay station on the east coast might be
helpful next time if net control is on the west coast.

Adam - ka7ark


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Re: [Elecraft] CW

2009-01-25 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:43:13 -0800 (PST)
  Ralph Tyrrell  wrote:
> In the last two months I have had many CW QSOs with Extra Class Amateurs 
> where I have had to 
>slow down, somtimes to 5 WPM.  Listen from 7113 to 7120 kHz also 3550 to 3555 
>kHz.
> It has given me a thirll to work these new to CW hams. They remind me of how 
> my CW must have 
>sounded 60 years ago. 
> There is no more code test, but the interest in CW seems to be increasing. 
> 
> Last month I joined  SKCC and am using a straight key much of the time again. 
> Feels good.
> 
> Worked a few stations on 160 yesterday, that felt good also.
> 
> I am not strickly CW, I also get into several voice nets each week.
> 
> 73, Ty,  W1TF, 
> 
> 
>  
> ___

Ty,

Yah I've noticed that as well and really from a logical point of view the FCC 
should ELIMINATE
the exclusive CW segments as other than CONTESTS the Extras don't use them as 
much as they did
years ago! There's TYPICALLY more CW action up higher on a daily basis!!! And 
you don't hear very
many new Extras cluttering up their own segments with 5wpm, they all go higher 
for 
contacts/practice! It's a "no-brainer!"



Jim/nn6ee
S/N 2406

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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread Phil LaMarche

What's so amazing is that others tell me how good their K3 is on 6.  This is
a unit built by AB7R who is tops with Elecraft and it was checked out before
selling.  The other bands are wonderful.  Just a point, my Flex 1000 and
Flex 5000 was the same way and part of the reason I switched.  Still happy I
did, especially with the Lp Pan which emulates Flex.  BUT to have an old 400
buck FT100 body slam it is quite puzzling.

Phil 


Philip LaMarche 
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-Original Message-
From: JIM DAVIS [mailto:nn...@astound.net] 
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:12 PM
To: Phil LaMarche; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:34:03 -0500
  "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:
> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other 
> bands with the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are 
> screaming from the FT 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna 
> switch.  Guess I better get a Preamp in line quickly.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> Philip LaMarche
> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>  www.instantgourmetspices.com
> 
> www.w9dvm.com 
> 800-395-7795 pin 02
> 727-944-3226
>FAX 727-937-8834
> NASFT 30210
> W9DVM

*

Phil,

You're right about the 6mtr. band being practically deaf in the K3!!!  I did
order the 6m. preamp because of that short-coming! But you would have
thought that the BOYZ @ Elecraft would'nt have short-changed 6m sensitivity
as ALL THE OTHER BANDS HEAR WELL!!!

Why build a quality rig if one-band is only added as a "after-thought"???

Jim/nn6ee
S/N 2406



  

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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-receiver or 2 k3's

2009-01-25 Thread Jerry Flanders
A few weeks ago on this reflector I mentioned that I was using my two 
K3s for diversity. I have two full station setups (primarily for RTTY 
contesting), and one is connected to 80/20/10 antennas and the other 
to a 40/15. Also, each separate station feeds a different side 
earpiece in my headphones, so it was very easy for me to implement 
diversity just by linking the VFOs together through N8LP's LP-Bridge 
program. Even though the "other" K3 is on the "wrong band" antenna, 
it all works FB. I have not tried to link the master oscillators in 
the K3s, but I did carefully tweak the freq calibration so they are 
on the same freq (within tenths of a Hz, I think).

Since I already had the two radios here, it made sense for me to do 
diversity with them when the second radio was not busy, but maybe not 
so sensible to buy one solely for this.

Go back through the archives and search for my posts both here and 
also the LP-Pan reflector.

Jerry W4UK

At 18:17 1/25/2009, N1IX wrote:
>
>I was going to install the sub-receiver in my K3.
>Then I thought it might me advantageous to have a second K3 instead.
>I need a back up radio also. Are there any opinions?
>
>Dave N1IX

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Re: [Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread JIM DAVIS
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:34:03 -0500
  "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:
> I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other bands with
> the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are screaming from the FT
> 100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna switch.  Guess I better get
> a Preamp in line quickly.
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> Philip LaMarche 
> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>  www.instantgourmetspices.com
> 
> www.w9dvm.com   
> 800-395-7795 pin 02 
> 727-944-3226 
>FAX 727-937-8834 
> NASFT 30210 
> W9DVM 
*

Phil,

You're right about the 6mtr. band being practically deaf in the K3!!!  I did 
order the 6m. preamp 
because of
that short-coming! But you would have thought that the BOYZ @ Elecraft would'nt 
have short-changed
6m sensitivity as ALL THE OTHER BANDS HEAR WELL!!!

Why build a quality rig if one-band is only added as a "after-thought"???

Jim/nn6ee
S/N 2406



  

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[Elecraft] OT: W7FG a Silent Key

2009-01-25 Thread Ken Kopp
Long-time friend Gary Gompf, W7FG became a Silent Key on 
the evening of January 22nd.  He was the owner of W7FG Antennas 
and W7FG Manuals.  

He and Karolina visited us just a few weeks ago.

Ken Kopp - K0PP

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Re: [Elecraft] R-KXAT-1 problem

2009-01-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Karol,

You may be correct that U1 is damaged, but first check for voltage (6 
VDC) at U1 pins 4 and 14.
If you have access to an RF Probe or oscilloscope, you can check for the 
presence of 4 MHz at U1 pins 15 and 16.  Make certain there is 
continuity between the socket pins and the leads of U1.

There are not many other checks that can be made directly and easily 
with limited equipment.
If you continue to have difficulty, send an email to pa...@elecraft.com 
and ask for a replacement U1 and also the resonator Z1.

73,
Don W3FPR

Karol Goralski wrote:
> Hello Everyone!
>
> First of all SORRY for my language. I'm not a native of English.
>
> Before I send some request to Elecrafts Support, I want to ask You.
>
> I soldered R-KXAT1 option for my new Elecraft KX1. TRX working good 
> and I'm very happy. But yesterday I soldered ATU and after plugin it 
> to PCB of KX1 I have problem described in documentation  "---"  three 
> dashes.
>
> I rechecked four times every stem and I suspect that I damaged "U1" - 
> PIC16C716.
>
> Can You tell me how to check it? Have You some  suggestions how to 
> troubleshoot this problem? I have nice pictures of my KXAT1 too :-)
>
> I'm not an expert - thank's for Yout patiance.. :-)
>
> 73's - SQ5LNU , Karol
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC Now ON Up to 14.318

2009-01-25 Thread Sam Morgan
Phil LaMarche wrote:
> Now on 319 
> 
eek,
now even worse, under 'one' of my local S8 noise sources
noise blanker in K2 is totally useless
(as it is on 98% of my local noise)
noise blanker in TS-450 is slightly better on this noise, but not by much.
however 450's nb works very well on 90% of my local noises

I hear a 4 asking how many checkins .
-- 
GB & 73
KA5OAI
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC Now ON Up to 14.318

2009-01-25 Thread Sam Morgan
Allan Bacon wrote:
>  
> Every Sunday:  Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC
 >
almost zero copy here in central west texas,
I heard an Alabama station checking in early in the net,
but since then only my S5 noise floor and the heterodyne
from that dang am signal on 14.317.50
even with an out board notch filter and headphones thrown in the mix,
all I can get is an occasional word, or maybe that's my imagination?

antenna is a 13 foot tall Hi-Q 5/160 vertical on a 2nd floor roof
with 16 radials each 13 foot long (ring wire soldered to the outer ends)
rigs used were K2 #2481 and even tried the TS-450

so much for that...
-- 
GB & 73
KA5OAI
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[Elecraft] Sub-receiver or 2 k3's

2009-01-25 Thread N1IX

I was going to install the sub-receiver in my K3. 
Then I thought it might me advantageous to have a second K3 instead. 
I need a back up radio also. Are there any opinions?

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Re: [Elecraft] CW Tone

2009-01-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tom,

What you are missing is the ability to even conceive of the problem we 
tone-deaf folks have.
Yes, we can hear the 'warble', and once detected it is easy to get the 
warble rate down very close to zero. The real problem for some of us is 
in getting the two tones close enough to produce that 'warble'..
I can hear two tones, and know that they are different, but my brain 
cannot determine if I should increase or decrease the frequency of the 
signal to get the two tones closer in pitch.

For those who share my difficulty, tools such a Spectrogram and in the 
K3, the CWT indicator are valuable aids.

73,
Don W3FPR

Tom, N5GE wrote:
> What am I missing here?  
>
> Does tone-deafness cause an inability to detect the "warble" one hears
> when tuning with the spot button  pressed?
>
> I have begun using the CWT most of the time now.  Not because I can't
> tune accurately with the spot tone, but because it is faster.
>
> Tom, N5GE
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC Now ON Up to14.318

2009-01-25 Thread Phillip Buckholdt
Net on 14.319 today

Phil
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Subject: [Elecraft] Reminder: Sunday Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC

Every Sunday: Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC Now ON Up to 14.318

2009-01-25 Thread Phil LaMarche

Now on 319 


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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC Now ON Up to 14.318

2009-01-25 Thread Allan Bacon




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Subject: [Elecraft] Reminder: Sunday Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC

Every Sunday:  Elecraft SSB Net on 14.316 at 1800 UTC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR3 FW request

2009-01-25 Thread wayne burdick

On Jan 25, 2009, at 3:47 AM, ON4WIX wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've just finished participating in the UBA SSB contest as a 6h 
> low-power
> entry using my K3/100 and the KDVR3 I installed last week. This setup 
> was a
> joy to use and the KDVR3 certainly relieved the strain my vocal 
> chords, hi.
> The only thing that bothered me a bit was that the KDVR3's playback 
> loop
> cannot be overridden by PTT or VOX.

Just fixed this. We'll have a new firmware revision out in a couple of 
days.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] K3 in 160 contest

2009-01-25 Thread Bob Evans
Admittedly, current conditions on 160 are the best I've ever seen, but for
us poor cousins in the center of the country to be able to work zone 14, 15
and 16 like 20M was truly fun to hear.  The K3 really shines when you are
trying to pull a European out of the hoard of East coast callers.  MANY U.S.
signals were 60 db over 9 here and the K3 was solid as a rock in pulling
through DX.  I generally stayed below 350 hz BW for most of the weekend.  I
like my 500 hz filter, but I may actually have talked myself into getting
the 250 hz filter to fill my remaining slot.  I found 70 countries (a couple
may disappear since they were ESP), 56 states/provinces and 1130 QSOs.  My
sleep schedule was out of whack due to work travel prior to the contest, but
got about 20-22 hours in and had a ball.  Some day I'm actually going to be
able to stay awake for sunrise openings.  ;-)  I heard several K3 owners
that I recognize from this list and was glad to work you on the air again.
Thanks

 

Bob K5WA

Houston, TX

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[Elecraft] OT: 160M CQ CW Contest

2009-01-25 Thread Don Rasmussen
This years contest was very exciting with K3 and only the coax feeding
my GAP vertical as an antenna.

The antenna was an overwhelming success, imagine a whole page of log entries at 
599 - this must be the best 160m antenna in the WORLD! ;-)




Hello All,

I also have been working the 160M CW Contest with the K3 and it's a delight to 
use on CW.
Also testing my HomeBrew 160M vertical with
1000 ft of gnd radials.
73 all gd dxing
Ken K5DNL - Oklahoma
 


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Re: [Elecraft] CW Tone

2009-01-25 Thread Tom, N5GE
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:43:22 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Dave,
>
>
> And for those of us that are "tone deaf" or at least deficient   
> the ability to change the pitch helps a lot.  Two signals that are the same 
> to me at  800 HZ  just seem to move apart as the pitch is lowered.  To look 
> at it another way the absolute difference between the two  signals has not 
> changed  but between 800 and 400 hz tones  the percent change has doubled 
> and, at least to me, is very audible.
>
>
>73,
>Bob
>K2TK 
>
>
>David Robertson wrote:
>KEITH and fellow Elecrafters. It has been long known that certain individules 
>have an inablity of decerning a difference in a pitch of tones that are 
>somewhat close to the same frequincy. This is comminally refered to as tone 
>deafness.Thats why CWT is real handy. There are many good CW operators that 
>are tone deaf. They can hear the tones but if the tones are very close in 
>frequency they cant tell one from the other other then sending speed and 
>style.   An interesting fact. in a room with 150 people being tested for SONAR 
>which several pair of tones were played. Some tone pairs were the same 
>frequency, other tone pairs were offset from each other. You had to mark 
>weather the tones were same, second tone high, or second tone low. You had to 
>get %85 right or you failed. When the test was completed there was only 10 of 
>us that passed.   For us that are not aflicted with this minor disablity using 
>your brain as a filter for the pitch you want can make for good cw copy. For 
>peopl
 e that
>are tone deaf, get you contacts using the CWT and good filtering.So Keith 
>you are not alone but don't let that keep you from CW 73 DAVE KD1NA 
>
>

What am I missing here?  

Does tone-deafness cause an inability to detect the "warble" one hears
when tuning with the spot button  pressed?

I have begun using the CWT most of the time now.  Not because I can't
tune accurately with the spot tone, but because it is faster.

Tom, N5GE
http://www.n5ge.com
http://www.swotrc.net

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[Elecraft] 6 Meters

2009-01-25 Thread Phil LaMarche
I purchased a used FT 100 just to monitor 6 while using the other bands with
the K3.  Today there is a great opening.  Signals are screaming from the FT
100 and hardly heard on the K3 using an antenna switch.  Guess I better get
a Preamp in line quickly.
 
Phil
 

Philip LaMarche 
LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
  www.instantgourmetspices.com

www.w9dvm.com   
800-395-7795 pin 02 
727-944-3226 
FAX 727-937-8834 
NASFT 30210 
W9DVM 


 
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[Elecraft] Excess K-2 modules for sale KNB and KAT2

2009-01-25 Thread Allan Bacon
I have assembled, never installed, a KNB and KAT2, if interested please make an 
offer, off list.
73,
Al
W6GBG
baco...@yahoo.com
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Re: [Elecraft] IO Issues with K3

2009-01-25 Thread Nick-WA5BDU
I've been finding the same problems in the 160 test. 

A lower baud rate seems like it would be fine for most things, but I 
wonder if it would tend to shorten any Morse elements?  Now that I think 
of it, maybe not, since the speed would remain the same at the USB end 
of the interface.  And to send CW, the program just toggles a 
handshaking line, independent of baud.

I do think that CW seems a tiny bit "clipped" from N1MM compared with 
that using the built-in keyer.

I'm thinking RF problems too. I just re-intsalled my quarter wave 
Marconi since the landscapers cut down my main antenna tree the other 
day, so I probably changed the local field strength in some way.  N1MM 
is having other hesitation problems as well.  I should probably 
re-install it.

73--Nick, WA5BDU

Cady, Fred wrote:
> Check the baud rate. I find if I run faster than 4800 either N1MM or 
> the K3 (probably N1MM) doesn't like it.  4800 seems to be OK.
> KE7X
>  
>  
>
> Fred Cady
> fcady at ieee dot org
>
>  
>
> 
> *From:* elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf Of *Lee Buller
> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2009 8:48 PM
> *To:* Elecraft Reflector
> *Subject:* [Elecraft] IO Issues with K3
>
>
> Running the 160 meter contest.  Lost connection with the rig from
> N1MM logger.  Cannot re-establish connection now with anything
> included the k3 utility.  I wonder if RF got to something? 
> Running the Prolific drivers and the USB adapter.  Changed ports. 
> Turned off and on CPU and associated USB hubs, cycled the
> K3nada.  Any one have an idea?
>
> Lee
>
>

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[Elecraft] K3_EZ Software

2009-01-25 Thread Stewart Baker
Hi,
Recently I have been trialing K3_EZ software from Bill N2BC.

Its features include: Band stack Registers, Frequency Memories, an 
Equalizer Manager and a Configuration Helper.

Great software, well worth a look..

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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[Elecraft] 160M CQ CW Contest

2009-01-25 Thread Ken Roberson
Hello All,

I also have been working the 160M CW Contest with the K3 and it's a delight to 
use on CW.
Also testing my HomeBrew 160M vertical with
1000 ft of gnd radials.
73 all gd dxing
Ken K5DNL - Oklahoma
 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] Pumping with AGC

2009-01-25 Thread Dan Atchison
Gary:



Guy, K2AV, said,



"Make sure in Config Menu you have AGC PLS nor."



This is the probably the single best suggestion of all other than 
riding the RF gain.  Most prevalent and especially during contests are 
key clicks - hard keying - which extend at times several kHz fore and 
aft of the carrier freq.  If AGC PLS is set to "OFF" the key clicks 
will surely affect the AGC.  In my opinion, the K3 handles this 
situation better than any other rig I've used - which is many.  Again, 
make sure AGC PLS is "nor."  I have no troubles, even on the topband 
with preamp on, with AGC pumping and a 200 Hz filter.



73,

Dan -- N3ND





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[Elecraft] R-KXAT-1 problem

2009-01-25 Thread Karol Goralski
Hello Everyone!

First of all SORRY for my language. I'm not a native of English.

Before I send some request to Elecrafts Support, I want to ask You.

I soldered R-KXAT1 option for my new Elecraft KX1. TRX working good and I'm
very happy. But yesterday I soldered ATU and after plugin it to PCB of KX1 I
have problem described in documentation  "---"  three dashes.

I rechecked four times every stem and I suspect that I damaged "U1" -
PIC16C716.

Can You tell me how to check it? Have You some  suggestions how to
troubleshoot this problem? I have nice pictures of my KXAT1 too :-)

I'm not an expert - thank's for Yout patiance.. :-)

73's - SQ5LNU , Karol
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Dual Receive Surprise

2009-01-25 Thread Toby Deinhardt
> One curious phenomenon I've noticed is comparing digital versus analog 
> TV signals. My cable service uses the same channel on cable as the "over 
> the air" VHF channel for the local broadcast TV stations. 

All signal en-, trans- and decoding will require at least one to two 
frames. At work the "broadcast" signals of the same program which leave 
our company will often have a delta of a second or so depending on what 
kind of processing was necessary (i.e. satellite broadcast, terrestrial 
broadcast, internet stream, etc.).

Also any resynchronizing which may occur in the various system the 
signal is passed through also costs time.

This is most likely what you are noticing.

vy 73 de toby
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Re: [Elecraft] I love when the band is open

2009-01-25 Thread Dale Putnam

Congratulations.. I heard a lot of Eu.. but couldn't get their attention--... 
...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
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[Elecraft] I love when the band is open

2009-01-25 Thread ni0c
Dale Putnam, WC7S,  wrote:

"160 has been a joy this weekend. Thank you K2! and 
thank you to all the good ears too."


I got up last night to check out the EU sunrise and worked
5 new countries on 160 in a one hour span!   Using only a
top-loaded HF-2V with about 40 radials and 500 watts.  

I spent Friday morning adding and lengthening radials and
tuning the antenna to place its 15 KHz bandwidth exactly
where I wanted it. 

Thank you K3 and all the good stations on the other side
of the pond.

73,
Chuck Guenther  NI0C
K2/10 s/n 5853
K3/100 s/n 1061
   





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[Elecraft] UK Elecraft net report for Sunday 25th January

2009-01-25 Thread Dave G4AON
The frequency was clear this week except for a persistent plain carrier some 
2.5 KHz lower, fortunately the manual notch completely eradicated the problem.

Topics this week included:

Paul gave a further update on progress with his auto
balanced atu and queried the availability of roller inductors on the surplus 
market.

The recently released K3 filter plotting software and also the EQ software.

SDR "panadapters" and their use both with the K3 and stand alone.

Stations were:

G0VGS, Ian
G0MJW, Mike
M1PAF, Paul
G4LWA, Alan
G3UCK, Geoff
G4DQP, Vince
GM3SEK, Ian

73 until next week
Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80, Acom 1000, dipole

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[Elecraft] K3 - KDVR3 FW request

2009-01-25 Thread ON4WIX
Hi all,

I've just finished participating in the UBA SSB contest as a 6h low-power 
entry using my K3/100 and the KDVR3 I installed last week. This setup was a 
joy to use and the KDVR3 certainly relieved the strain my vocal chords, hi.
The only thing that bothered me a bit was that the KDVR3's playback loop 
cannot be overridden by PTT or VOX.
Each time a station called I had to take one hand off my PC's keyboard to 
stop the playback. Not really a showstopper but a bit awkward nonetheless.
I seem to remember a post stating that playback override by PTT/VOX is on 
the list of "to-do" items. I hope it makes it to the top of the list soon 
;-).
Anyway, I had a great time during the contest and my K3 amazes me more 
everyday. This is one heck of a radio!

Thanks all at Elecraft!

73
Glenn ON4WIX / OR4W 

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[Elecraft] I love when the band is open

2009-01-25 Thread Dale Putnam

160 has been a joy this weekend... I am missing only 6 states from a WAS in one 
weekend QRP.. 
and I couldn't have done it without my K2.. and the states I am missing.. it is 
funny I've worked all the missing ones... NH, RI, DE, LA, KH6, and go figure.. 
Wy...*G*
This and in only 8.6 hours. 
Thank you K2! and thank you to all the good ears too.. 
 
 The conditions are interesting.. with waves of noise, washing across, then 
fading away but the one that is notable.. there is no static.. none.. and 
very light stations can be worked..
thank you prop gods... *s*--... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy
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[Elecraft] K3: Alarm Clock

2009-01-25 Thread Arne Andersson
Hello Elecrafters!

Last night I turned on the alarm function in my K3
and turned off the rig. In the morning the rig was 
turned on, thats good. But lost the RS232 connection.
Turned off than on the rig and all back to normal.
Anybody noticed this?


DXLab Suite and
Elecraft K3 the best a HAM can get!
Arne Andersson (SM5CNQ)



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Re: [Elecraft] FS Elecraft K3

2009-01-25 Thread Igor Sokolov
Jim, could you explain how the TX IMD performance of K3 affects your SSB 
operation?

73, Igor UA9CDC

Don´t say that. I´m still very comfortable using my old FT-1000D.
Since the TX IMD performance of the K3 is much inferior to the
FT-1000D I´m glad I kept it. I feel very reluctant using my K3
on SSB.

73 Jim SM2EKM
-
Robert C.Abell wrote:
> Hunter,
>
> You will be very sorry if you dispose of your K3.
> I too am no computer expert but I perservered and finally am comfortable
> using the K3.
>
> Now my Drake "C" line and even the Drake TR-7 and Collins KWM-2A seem
> too dificult to use
> comfortably.
>
> Suggest you rethink your decision to sell.
>
> 73, Bob VE3XM
>


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